#off-topic-discussion

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proud flicker
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Every movie with a setting in space is classified as a sci-fi movie.
Technically the Earth is in space.
Technically every move ever made is a sci-fi.

Should I tweet this @tatzel.#1484 ?

dusty rover
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conversely you could argue that anything set on another planet is not a sci-fi movie unless the characters at some point enter the vacuum of space

proud flicker
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Everything is nothing

fast quail
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this is some 3-am-shower-thoughts level take

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I'm here for it

proud flicker
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One of my favorite fallacies:
Nothing is better than God.
A sandwich is better than nothing.
Therefore, a sandwich is better than God.

fast quail
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ah yes, equivocation

proud flicker
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It's also a good example of the difference between Null and Zero.

mild pelican
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or just strange english grammar with lacking negations

proud flicker
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Well it's both.
Colloquial English doesn't distinguish between null and zero, hence the equivocation.

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But this is like overanalyzing, and hence killing, the joke

mild pelican
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i just want a sandwich aight

proud flicker
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What kind

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Grilled cheese disgusts me
My hot take of the day

mild pelican
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now when i think of it, i kinda miss sausage

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like, salami

proud flicker
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Can't you like buy them?

dusty rover
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no

mild pelican
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there was one certain kind of salami back in late 90s-early 00s, super spicy and super good

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and super expensive

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and then it disappeared

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all the other kinds available are sorta meh

proud flicker
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Grilled cheese is fat + carb with minimal protein

dusty rover
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lol i'm not a vegetarian, but i'm not a meat fan either

mild pelican
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luckily most of the sausages contain no meat lol

dusty rover
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cheese tastes good and a grilled cheese sandwich is easy to make

fast quail
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okay, picture the following layers to a sandwich:
sourdough
provolone
sliced ham
roast beef
Sweet Baby Ray's bbq sauce
lettuce
garlic aioli
pepper jack cheese
sourdough

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I'm hungry just thinking about it

proud flicker
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Has anyone here tried Banh Mi?

mild pelican
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first time heard

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what's that

proud flicker
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Google it

mild pelican
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no, google, not banhammer

proud flicker
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It's just Vietnamese sandwich, essentially.
Long sandwich with grilled meat and various veggies

mild pelican
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oh my

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there are a whole lot of.. three places in this city where it can be gotten

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but it looks so good

proud flicker
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Could be a fun adventure once Covid is over

mild pelican
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indeed

wise whale
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is the ocean a soup?

dusty rover
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is soup required to be hot

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if so, only parts of the ocean could be considered a soup

quick cairn
limber walrus
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a soup is not required to be hot

quick cairn
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yea just a veggie/meat base broth with stuff in it

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or whatever the hell tomato soup is

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also cereal is a soup, salad, and pasta depending on when you put in the milk

dusty rover
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if the liquid component of soup is supposed to be dominant, i object to pasta and salad qualifying as soup

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cereal, however, is

broken fern
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Cereal is not a soup

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A soup is a hot liquid consisting of ingredients infusing into water or some other liquid base

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Coffee is a soup

dusty rover
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so soup must be hot after all? others appear to disagree

quick cairn
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ok like yea it has to be cooked via heat but like

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you can still eat it cold

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and thus its dubbed cold soup

broken fern
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Yes

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Like heat is necessary for the creation of soup but it doesn't necessarily need to be hot in all states

dusty rover
broken fern
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The ocean is not a soup

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Soup is transformative to all ingredients applied

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Seawater does not gain flavor just by havin stuff in it

dusty rover
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another fair point, though i must ask: have you tasted the ocean at different parts of the world?

broken fern
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Yes

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Still tastes bad

dusty rover
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but is it different kinds of bad

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or the same sort of bad throughout

mild pelican
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ocean has never been boiled, so it's not a soup

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but any kind of boiled water is technically a soup, bc of bacteria in it

broken fern
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It doesn't even need to boiled it can be simmered too

mild pelican
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it has been

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long long ago, and it was about same time first bacteria appeared

dusty rover
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the ocean is a soup
a primordial soup

proud flicker
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is the pope Catholic?

dusty rover
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yes?

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why

dawn gust
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as a catholic who doesn't even care enough to practice it, can confirm

dry stratus
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roman catholic, specifically

dawn gust
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yea that

twilit quiver
proud flicker
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it's a joke guys

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it's like is water wet

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of course the pope is catholic

oblique wedge
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😂

twilit quiver
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No that's a normal expression

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Gta got it from real life

proud flicker
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I can't believe real life just made a GTA SA reference

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Must be like that time when Microsoft made a Fortnite reference with Master Chief

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Smh nothing is original anymore

dawn gust
fair sun
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Smh the whole world ripped off fortnite in ww2

prime hare
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everybody was talking about soup?

mild pelican
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yep

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soop is nice

brittle lantern
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yessirski

oblique wedge
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Never heard it in real life until now...kind of. But I heard it from GTA SA and I laugh every time when Caesar was confused.

quick cairn
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like

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its all a facade for the sake of reaching higher in the european power system

dusty rover
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the catholic church is pretty powerful anyway, no? and they’re still catholic

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religion and power grabbing have gone hand in hand before

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*organized religious institutions, that is

quick cairn
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my day has been a mess ;w;

proud flicker
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let's say I want to make a tiiny tiny art commission, does anyone know a good artist?

faint panther
proud flicker
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Appreciate the info!

faint panther
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Np he does really good work! he even made my icon!

wise whale
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Is lava wet?

proud flicker
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Yes

quick cairn
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yea its literally a melted substance, its just really hot

upbeat scroll
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is lava a beverage

proud flicker
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if you are brave enough

wise whale
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You can drink it, but only once

quick cairn
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the forbidden drink

fair sun
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Is lava wet

dawn gust
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la sopa esta caliente

terse frost
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Me: okay let's sleep

My brain: if you or a loved one has been diagnosed with mesothelioma you may be entitled to ✨ f I n a cial comp ense a tion ✨

radiant musk
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Any announcements for xbox ?

proud flicker
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Like?

rose talon
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gotta admit

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this got me laughing

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hard

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i really just got defiance chaos in tartarus

proud flicker
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AoT leaks are out. It's fun to watch edgy kids in shambles.

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Their tears are delicious.

proud flicker
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Fun fact: the G in LGBT stands for G*mers.
The most oppressed group on the Internet.

upbeat rain
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you cant be saying words like g***r

quick cairn
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you just said it 😳

upbeat rain
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OH NO

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PLEASE I DIDNT MEAN IT

proud flicker
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Please stop with g*mers erasure

quick cairn
upbeat rain
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NO

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PLEASE DONT DO IT

quick cairn
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it's too late

quick cairn
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omfg i love that

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mercedes is best girl of 3h

proud flicker
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Modsss

proud flicker
quick cairn
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bernadetta is up there too

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but dimitri is best boy

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and no one can make me think otherwise

proud flicker
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Oh I had to reset my FE Echoes run.
Having only one healer (with no Physics) is such a pain on Alm's Route mid-late game.

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Lesson learned.

warm ridge
limber walrus
warm ridge
limber walrus
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If you're on mobile, you can remove it by putting <> on either side of the link

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Ah, I see

warm ridge
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trying to find a link that doesn't have a questionable tagline lol

proud flicker
faint panther
faint panther
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Teeechnically?

hexed hollow
mild pelican
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okay, can we really talk about something as "wet", if it is not covered in actual H2O?

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about other liquids, that contain no water

queen blaze
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Define “wet” first, then you’ll be able to figure it out.

dusty rover
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water doesn’t have a monopoly on wet. substances that are in a liquid state are in most cases if not all, wet

mild pelican
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when it's said, "caution, wet floor", that means "floor is covered with water"

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thus, wet = covered with water

quick cairn
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and juice is more than water

dusty rover
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not always water, what if there is a cooking oil spillage at the grocery store

quick cairn
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^^that too

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milk is wet

mild pelican
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but tbh, there are not many liquids, that have no water in the composition

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milk contains water, juice too

quick cairn
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eggs are also kinda wet ngl

mild pelican
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oil mostly doesn't but if something covered in oil, it's considered oiled

dusty rover
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so we have to ask: what other liquids contain little or no water

mild pelican
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and then it's said about the floor that it's slippery

dusty rover
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there’s one element on the periodic table that exists naturally as a liquid, but i forgot what

dusty rover
mild pelican
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that's bc there are no different signs for water and other liquids, who would do that

dusty rover
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unless there are two separate signs at the store for wet and slippery floors

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but wet floors ARE slippery

mild pelican
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usually wet means just washed

dusty rover
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admittedly, slippery floors are not always wet

mild pelican
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and slippery can be everything, like, new mirrored floor tiles

queen blaze
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So maybe wet is “covered in a liquid”?

mild pelican
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that can be dry but still slippery

queen blaze
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Slippery would be related to the friction of the surface.

mild pelican
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ok, but what kind of liquids are there that contain no water

queen blaze
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Oils

mild pelican
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so we can define if they can relate to wet

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there is mercury, for example

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it's a metal, but liquid in normal conditions

dusty rover
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that’s the element!

proud flicker
dusty rover
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can it leave a surface wet, though

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it can leave you poisoned, that’s all i know

proud flicker
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To answer this question, we need to define the term "wet." If we define "wet" as the condition of a liquid sticking to a solid surface, such as water wetting our skin, then we cannot say that water is wet by itself, because it takes a liquid AND a solid to define the term "wet."

If we define "wet" as a sensation that we get when a liquid comes in contact with us, then yes, water is wet to us.

If we define "wet" as "made of liquid or moisture", then water is definitely wet because it is made of liquid, and in this sense, all liquids are wet because they are all made of liquids. I think that this is a case of a word being useful only in appropriate contexts.

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TLDR above

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The next debate should be:
Is a straw one hole or two holes?

dusty rover
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one

proud flicker
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But a vase also has one hole

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Then a straw should have 2 holes

dusty rover
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so does a bead

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it’s not two connected holes, it’s one that bores all the way through

proud flicker
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like a golf hole is one hole, not 2

mild pelican
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or a donut

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technically, vase doesn't have holes

proud flicker
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it certainly does

dusty rover
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IS a vase a hole

proud flicker
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or like a hole on the ground

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that's a hole

dusty rover
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rather than having one

proud flicker
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with one opening

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so a straw with 2 openings is two holes

dusty rover
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so hole with one opening vs. hole with two openings

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both are one hole

proud flicker
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that only begs the question of the relationship between a hole with one opening and another with two.

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are they both holes? is one twice as holey as the other?

dusty rover
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holes and openings are different things.

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would the eye of a needle be two holes or one

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the answer is one

proud flicker
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If a straw is two then a needle has two holes

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one in front, one in back

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you can go in either holes

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that's two

dusty rover
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but a straw has one. there’s nothing separating them

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you can go in either END of the same hole

proud flicker
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yeah, but either implies TWO

dusty rover
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unless there’s something blocking the middle of the straw

mild pelican
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in my language there is a separate word for a hole in the ground

dusty rover
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two OPENINGS, not two holes

mild pelican
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sometimes applied to the surface

proud flicker
dusty rover
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holes simply have different characteristics

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no, because there would still be two ends you could go in, they just wouldn’t be connected

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which would separate one hole into two

proud flicker
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if you have one herd of cow and you split them in to two, you have two herds.

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this implies that there is an intrinsic characteristics of a herd, or in this case, a hole

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that intrinsic characteristic should be the opening of a hole.

mild pelican
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hole is an absence of surface, so to split it, you have to add something, like, a wall

dusty rover
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you've separated the cows from each other, wheras the "two holes" in a straw remain connected

proud flicker
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so let's say

mild pelican
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also, if the vase has a hole, it's considered a ruined item, bc it can't contain liquid anymore

proud flicker
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I have a wall
person A digs a hole on the left side
person B digs a hole on the right side

dusty rover
proud flicker
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even if they are connected in the middle

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they still dig 2 holes

dusty rover
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which become one

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when they connect

proud flicker
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no that's still 2 holes "worth" of holes.

mild pelican
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like, you have a sphere of some kind of material, aight

dusty rover
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but they're connected, which makes all the difference

mild pelican
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it's very flexible and stuff

quick cairn
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wait whats the question now

dusty rover
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if you have two rips in your shirt, and they grow and combine, they become one big rip

mild pelican
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and you want to make a vase, without ripping the material

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and you can do it

proud flicker
dusty rover
quick cairn
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its 2 connected holes :/

proud flicker
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thank you

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that's 2 holes

faint panther
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It's a single elongated hole.

dusty rover
quick cairn
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and those are connected

proud flicker
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well then, let

faint panther
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A hollow sphere?

mild pelican
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if a straw has two holes, so does donut

proud flicker
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say we have a T shaped tunnel

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how many holes is that?

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one?

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three?

dusty rover
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if direction matters in a hole, then two

mild pelican
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three

dusty rover
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one for each leg of the t

mild pelican
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A-B, B-C and A-C

dusty rover
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if connection matters regardless of direction, one

mild pelican
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maybe actually less

faint panther
quick cairn
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i like to see it as points of entry = 1 hole

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since like

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you can stab something several times each in a diff spot

proud flicker
quick cairn
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and each is a separate point of entry, and is thus a different hole

proud flicker
mild pelican
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if a straw has 2, than T-shaped tunnel has six

dusty rover
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points of entry and holes are different. a doorway has two points of entry, that doesn't make it two doorways

proud flicker
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opening is an intrinsic characteristics of a hole, so each hole has one opening.

mild pelican
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okay, so we have to define opening

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and how does it differ from an aperture

quick cairn
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ok i dont have the energy for this ive been up since like 2am ;w;

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and its 3pm rn

proud flicker
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lmao

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it's an important question, alright

mild pelican
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the confusion is in definitions

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hole as an opening, aka some place through which a person can enter an object, is one thing

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also, we have to define inside and outside, it's not an easy question

dusty rover
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search dictionaries: they seem to agree that a hole can be an opening THROUGH something or a "hollowed out place" (in Merriam Webster's words)

limber walrus
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is this the straw debate

dusty rover
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yes

proud flicker
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ok dictionary is kinda cheating

mild pelican
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or a hole as an aperture, some kind of tear in the matter of an object

dusty rover
limber walrus
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has someone already said "infinite holes"? If no, I'll drop that one

mild pelican
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that means, dictionary had two different definitions in one

proud flicker
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because dictionary is appealing to an authority who might not be as reliable.

dusty rover
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fair, but you can check several

dusty rover
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and compare their definitions

faint panther
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@limber walrus Ooohh, your avi is a mouse thing looking up and to the right, not a Snivey.

limber walrus
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a Minish, specifically :3

proud flicker
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that's a furret in a link costume.

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the uncanny resemblance

faint panther
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Hm.

limber walrus
# proud flicker elaborate or ban

hahahaha

so a hole is effectively just the actual opening part, right? Between two other spaces? So, you can treat any "hole" with apparent thickness as an infinite number of holes stacked on top of each other, similar to doing an integral in calculus

faint panther
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Not quite as yellow and no really defined nose.

limber walrus
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because a hole is infinitely thin

mild pelican
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so that means, a straw has infinite amount of holes

proud flicker
limber walrus
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not quite 0

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infinitely small

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which is not 0

dusty rover
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an interesting thought. if you stack 5 donuts perfectly on top of each other, is it five holes or one

limber walrus
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0.0...1, effectively

proud flicker
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well, technically still have measure 0

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if we want to talk technical

mild pelican
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not only stack, but glue them together

limber walrus
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measure 0 by any measurements we're capable of measuring

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1/∞ ≠ 0

mild pelican
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yeah, this is big brain time

dusty rover
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m a t h

proud flicker
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lim n -> infty 1/n = 0

quick cairn
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i mean if yall wanna get really technical nothing is a complete solid object on the molecular level

limber walrus
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approaches 0, not equals 0

quick cairn
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so everything has lots of holes

proud flicker
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so measure of an infinitely small section is literally 0

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It is 0, we can't approach it

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that's the point

mild pelican
proud flicker
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(haha get it, point, which is infinitely small area).

limber walrus
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a point, which is infinitely small while still occupying a space >:3

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damnit

mild pelican
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maybe not infinite, but beyond measure still

dusty rover
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math and science oh no

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this humanities person is off to dinner

mild pelican
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if it's 0, then there is nothing there

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if it's not 0, that means there's something there

proud flicker
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measure 0 is not the same as nothing.

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nothing means null

limber walrus
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I've got class in a minute, sadly shadegrief I'll probably still pop in a little bit though

proud flicker
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zero means zero

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anyway

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how are we doing

mild pelican
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any measuring relies on measurements and measuring devices, and they're not perfect

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so ye

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my lil dum is 2 years old today

proud flicker
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aw

limber walrus
proud flicker
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I once read about why babies are so impatient. Likely not true, but still
Babies are impatient because they experience time slower relatively to adults.

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One month to a 2 y/o is 1/24 of life but 1/ a higher number for adults

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you get the idea

mild pelican
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that's a maybe.. growing up i have a feeling that time goes faster and faster and faster

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like, a year was a big deal back in the day

limber walrus
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that's exactly it, though

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that's the point

mild pelican
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now year is almost nothing

proud flicker
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I'm partial to the idea that the day is long but a year is short.

limber walrus
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it feels faster now, because you've already been though so many years, what's one more?

but when you're younger, you've only been through a few, so it's a larger relative portion

proud flicker
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yeah

mild pelican
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yeah

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also you are smaller, that means, you live sorta faster

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relatively

proud flicker
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but that's assuming that we do have that kind of reference and fully remember that time experience

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which we might not

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still a fun thought though

limber walrus
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like, say I hypothetically had my birthday recently, and I hypothetically still had some decorations up from last year--it wouldn't hypothetically feel like it's been an entire year, but it has

I think there's definitely an argument for it getting faster over time, though yeah, perception of time is super weird in retrospect

mild pelican
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also life becomes sorta more boring

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you have to study more, then to work, then eventually die

proud flicker
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I live to make sure I can play vidya ngl

mild pelican
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no big impressions

proud flicker
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it's fun enough for me, for now

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plus some other hedonistic things

mild pelican
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impressions are important, they make life in retrospect longer

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so videogames are a blessing

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mostly

proud flicker
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when game is good, game is good.
when game is bad, meme is good.
literally win-win.

mild pelican
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memes are DNA of a soul

limber walrus
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technically no, they're actually the DNA of culture

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:3

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we've had a couple lectures on memes in my classes

tranquil bay
proud flicker
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👋

mild pelican
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👋

tranquil bay
quick cairn
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damn flexing over here with the nitro gif emote ;w;

proud flicker
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lmao i just got a e^x = x moment doing hw

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it turns out the engineers were right all along.

limber walrus
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what, pi = 3?

proud flicker
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pi^2 = 10

limber walrus
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0.o

proud flicker
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pi^2 = g = 10

limber walrus
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no...

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please no...

proud flicker
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e^x - 1= sin(x) = x

limber walrus
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I can hear my physics teacher quietly crying (metaphorically speaking, of course)

proud flicker
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no like actually though lmao
i'm doing hw and had to double check my results because it's identical despite me exponentiating it.

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it's true. e^x = x

tranquil bay
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oh god numbers and letters [blacks out]

limber walrus
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uh
are we assuming the same range of x values as sin(x) = x? that is to say, very small numbers?

limber walrus
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oooh that's what you meant lmao

proud flicker
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you can't convince me these are two different lines

limber walrus
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I didn't think you were saying the function e^x is equal to the function x, I thought you mean the result of e^x was x

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so I was super confused

proud flicker
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e^x = x + 1

limber walrus
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same issue lmao

snow shale
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May I just say that Hades is just constantly a good time... my goodness.

proud flicker
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I showed you proof that they are the same line.

limber walrus
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at first, I thought you were saying they were a value equality, not a function equality

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so it makes sense now

proud flicker
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oh lmao

upbeat scroll
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I remember having to memorize small angle approximations

proud flicker
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sin(x) = x

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what do you have to memorize?

upbeat scroll
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cos(x) = 1

proud flicker
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sin(pi/4) = sin(45) = 45

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taps head

upbeat scroll
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tan(x) = x

limber walrus
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sin(gerine)/cos(gerine) = tan(gerine)

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cos(angent)/sin(angent) = cot(angent)

proud flicker
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fact

dawn gust
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truth

prime hare
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sum foods?

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actually does anyone remember poptarts?

faint panther
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smp

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its a minecraft smp

dawn gust
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good ol poptarts

proud flicker
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I shouldn't have drunk coffee today

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Help

limber walrus
proud flicker
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I'm so jiterry

limber walrus
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you're very kiterry, yes

dawn gust
ashen shadow
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HELLOO

bleak sierra
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Heyoo

median flame
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Hello there!

upbeat rain
solar bane
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Who here is knowledgeable about command lines?

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I need to convert all files of a certain type located in a folder and all its subfolders into .txt, then merge them all into one giant .txt

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I can’t stress how important it is I get this done.

limber walrus
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disclaimer: I have not tested these commands myself

limber walrus
#

@simple owl || ZagLook || || I have acquired unimaginable power ||

tranquil bay
#

gasps nitro power finchalarm

limber walrus
#

indeed Dabrax

tranquil bay
timber bronze
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Eurydice in the game: beautiful, so much personality

Eurydice when I draw her: orange broccoli

proud flicker
#

Everyone is nitro-ing

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@limber walrus also I see you Dead Cellsing

limber walrus
#

indeed

proud flicker
#

I can't beat 1st BC

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:(

proud flicker
#

tfw the exam question is so easy you think something must be wrong.

hearty quartz
#

Anyone well versed in keyboards here? Can you DM me, got a question about keycaps.

hexed hollow
#

@hearty quartz you can ask the question here (assuming it's not too personal) and someone might be able answer you ^_^

dry stratus
#

pc building is a fascinating subject so if the question isn't personal it'll be interesting to see what's discussed

hexed hollow
#

There's also a very many number of keyboard mechanical switches on the market now a days that aren't just cherry or imitation cherry switches :3

dry stratus
#

actually if anyone has any laptop fan recommendations i'm all ears

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my cat broke mine

limber walrus
#

Well, I'm a huge fan of mine, hyuck hyuck

hexed hollow
#

What are you looking to use it for and what's your budget Will?

dry stratus
#
  • no more than $70aud
  • just to cool down my laptop. if it has any other bells and whistles, it's just a bonus to me
hexed hollow
#

Bonus points they're both from an aussie retailer

dry stratus
#

thank u aggy

hexed hollow
#

No worries friendly

proud flicker
#

that's a pretty smart cat lmao

bronze lintel
#

"This man affords my food, shelter, gives me love and be sure I have all I need.... I'mma yeet to his laptop fan."
-that cat prob

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Now that I think about it

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I need laptop fan lol

dry stratus
#

my kittie can open doors, too!

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he has also worn the pyre doggie hoodie that was sold on the supergiant store some years back. I need to post pics again

narrow saddle
#

I had a recomendation a while ago. Would you like to see it, whoever wants to build

dry stratus
#

yeah sure, door!

blissful charm
dry stratus
#

in newegg we trust

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thank you for the links!

narrow saddle
#

👍

runic kiln
dry stratus
#

cats using keys sounds like a moment for sure!

obtuse barn
#

bouldy
i love this emoji

bronze lintel
#

my fav

bronze lintel
#

I made a taro latte for myself. Used less powder than the recommended cause I am not a fan of sugar. I haven't had sugar in a while

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I can feel the sugar rush

dawn gust
#

Dusa best maid

proper robin
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Dusa best girl

faint panther
#

Medusa in the pantheon is actually a horrible person. She was a priestess in a temple of Athena iirc and she vacated it to do the dirty with Apollo on the lawn and so was cursed

proud flicker
#

I heard the opposite lol

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She was indeed a priestess, but then was raped by Poseidon, Athena decided to blame the victim and curse her instead of having a talk with Poseidon

faint panther
#

No she left the temple

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They did not make love in the temple

limber walrus
#

There are many, many versions of the myth

proud flicker
#

In a late version of the Medusa myth, by the Roman poet Ovid (Metamorphoses 4.794–803), Medusa was originally a beautiful maiden, but when Poseidon had sex with her in "Minerva's (i.e. Athena's) temple,[6] Athena punished Medusa by transforming her beautiful hair into horrible snakes.

This is per Wikipedia. I totally understand that Greek myths, being oral traditions, have many many variations.

faint panther
#

There is only 1 true version

proud flicker
#

But still, the Poseidon one seems to be the more popular one

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So I will go with that

faint panther
#

And that is hesiod

limber walrus
faint panther
#

No it's not

proud flicker
#

it literally is

dry stratus
#

oh tbh I always headcanons medusa as beautiful with her snakes

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love headcanoning mythology. respect for the ancient where

faint panther
#

Ovid who lived in a Roman world is not. Ancient Greek cannon

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It is hesiod

proud flicker
#

Alright, how do you think we have information about Greek mythology?

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It's an oral tradition

faint panther
#

Hesiod

limber walrus
#

That doesn't change the fact that there're many accurate versions
That's the beautiful thing about oral tradition, there are many versions that are all true
Hesiod is far from the only greek scholar

faint panther
#

There is only hesiod

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All others are fan fiction

proud flicker
#

alright im done after seeing that statement lmao

faint panther
#

Prove it wrong

dry stratus
#

💖 all others are fanfic hence my headcanons of medusa being beautiful

faint panther
#

That legit

limber walrus
proud flicker
#

Hesiod doesn't exist because I have never seen him nor have I seen him. Prove me wrong.

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For all I know that could be your imagination.

proper hamlet
#

Well hello

dry stratus
#

hiiiii

faint panther
#

You think a virgin goddess like Athena would let a transgression like rape happen to her priestess and not publish it?

proud flicker
#

are you serious?

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lmao

limber walrus
#

You're changing the topic

dry stratus
#

tbh foxhope I don't think outis has been serious the whole time, based on their messages

faint panther
#

A goddess of strategy

proud flicker
#

I mean there is good trolling and bad trolling

dry stratus
#

but I am serious when I say that I think artemis should date persephone 💖

proud flicker
#

that bad ones are the ones that you can't tell the difference

faint panther
#

It's literally written down and is the basis of the Greeks

proper hamlet
#

Now what's happening here exactly?

limber walrus
#

What's literally written down? We've said a lot of things

limber walrus
proper hamlet
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Oh boi

proud flicker
#

fun fact: zeus asked for consent before having sex with the maidens. that's why athena is ok with not confronting him.

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fact.

proper hamlet
#

This is not how it was

dusty rover
#

the key is not to project 21st century societal norms and values onto ancient greek times

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which had very different values

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not sure if this statement’s related to the convo lol

limber walrus
#

No that's absolutely valid

proud flicker
#

yeah because it's a counter argument to this

You think a virgin goddess like Athena would let a transgression like rape happen to her priestess and not publish it?

limber walrus
#

And an important consideration that most people forget

proper hamlet
#

Publish it?

faint panther
#

Punish

limber walrus
#

Also how would Athena even punish Poseidon?

#

Hi Tatz!

tranquil bay
proud flicker
#

she would write a sternly worded letter to poseidon

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she is the goddess of strategy aftger all

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that means she is omniscience

faint panther
#

When Athena was born from the body of Zeus the world was in awe

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I study the greeks

dry stratus
#

LOL that thinking emoji reaction always gets me

dusty rover
proud flicker
#

i can't believe that aphrodite cheated on her husband

faint panther
#

I can

proud flicker
#

such an immoral person should not be god

proper hamlet
#

Gods rape people and cheating is what worries you?

proud flicker
#

yeah dude

tranquil bay
# faint panther I study the greeks

then your instructors aren't doing a good job. many mythos were told orally for thousands of years before they began being recorded. there is no feasible way to know just where and when some myths originated

proud flicker
#

they are trolling

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not a good troll

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but eh

tranquil bay
#

there is a difference between being a troll and just being.... well, words that arent allowed here but you get the idea.

proud flicker
#

see, this is what I am talking about.
if you can't tell if someone is trolling, it's a bad troll

tranquil bay
#

condescending is a good way to put it

dry stratus
#

at the very least there was some interesting discussion on primary sources, oral tradition, and the violence of literature

dusty rover
#

love me some history/mythology discourse

limber walrus
#

I can also donate picture of cat if people are interested 👀

dry stratus
#

yeeeees omg swan

faint panther
#

No hesiod is the basis for a panhelinic understanding of post mycenean gteece

proper hamlet
#

Sure

limber walrus
#

Ooh, her tail almost looks blue

proper hamlet
#

Wait how do you send pictures

limber walrus
#

:3

You upload elsewhere and send the link

proper hamlet
#

Oh

proud flicker
#

I make a personal server

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post my image there and copy the link

proper hamlet
#

?

dry stratus
#

yeah tbh I was wondering why she had a blue tail

limber walrus
#

It's the lighting, I think

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  • contrast
faint panther
#

We look for continuity from bronze age mycenea to classical Greece and we don't see it

limber walrus
#

If there isn't continuity, then doesn't that mean there's more than one version?

faint panther
#

Hesiod layed down the theogony at the start of new age restructuring

limber walrus
#

Volus! Birb update?

mild pelican
#

Medusa is the tier 4 creature from the Dungeon town, idk what are you peopel talking about

proud flicker
#

I asked my classic friend about what you said and they told me that you are full of bs

mild pelican
#

she has ranged attack, no melee penalty and a chance to petrify targets

faint panther
#

Have him talk here

limber walrus
#

That's pretty good

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How high is the chance?

dry stratus
#

outis be like "I demand a debate"

mild pelican
#

20%

limber walrus
#

Yeesh, that's pretty high

faint panther
#

I don't like debate

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I do dialectics

mild pelican
#

same as basilisks actually

limber walrus
#

the art of investigating or discussing the truth of opinions.

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opinions

faint panther
#

I want to talk things through

proud flicker
#

you bigoted person

limber walrus
proud flicker
#

👀

dusty rover
#

hmmmmmm

faint panther
#

Seething

#

Opinion is in the sense of Plato's devided line

proud flicker
#

you should really stop being so controversial lol

faint panther
#

I'm not

#

You are radical

limber walrus
#

You uh

It's literally impossible for you to know if you're being controversial by your own perception

#

And that's true for anyone

#

Controversy is a matter of the perceptions of other people

faint panther
#

I can know I don't know

proud flicker
#

I mean they have the gall to say this lmao.

limber walrus
#

Yeah

mild pelican
#

at this point im pretty sure it's trolling

faint panther
#

Imagine reading paracles funeral oration

limber walrus
#

I have no idea what you're trying to say

faint panther
#

In not trolling

dusty rover
#

i’m always down for discussions about ancient greek myth and society. this .... isn’t

limber walrus
#

I'd much rather you were trolling

proud flicker
#

^

faint panther
#

I understand

mild pelican
#

ofc, no troll will ever say they're trolling

faint panther
#

I realize some of you are sensitive

mild pelican
#

kinda miss the trolls from HoMM 2 though

limber walrus
#

Have you read #readme-first , out of curiosity?

And I mean, yeah, sensitive is good

mild pelican
#

and the overall design of sprites

faint panther
#

And hardlining talk can be abrasive

proud flicker
limber walrus
#

It means I don't let a bigoted butt-face talk smack about people

proud flicker
#

Someone hand me a bandage

#

thank you folks

limber walrus
#

Gotchu goodshade

proud flicker
#

custom hades emote

#

maybe I should get nitro

#

xD

limber walrus
#

Hahaha

#

Yeah, I made that one myself by recoloring shadesmile

mild pelican
#

maybe it's a good time to do so, while discord is independent

#

and to keep it that way

limber walrus
#

I got it as a birthday gift squirtdevious

proud flicker
#

I know people are talking about MS and Discord stuff, but I have some faith

#

look, nitro + xbox game pass ultimate is one heck of a deal

#

as long as MS doesn't change discord too radically

mild pelican
#

idk, i don't use gamepass or xbox

proud flicker
#

although if Discord goes public I will buy their stock

#

no cap

limber walrus
#

If they know what's good for them, they won't do anything except purchase it, and let the devs keep working on it

mild pelican
proud flicker
#

and MSN before that

#

but Discord is a gaming based communication service.

#

MS already have Team for their corporate service

limber walrus
#

Yeah but Teams sucks

#

It's Skype but bloated

proud flicker
#

Yeah, but it exists

limber walrus
#

My school uses it

proud flicker
#

my point is Discord would probably will not be used for corporate communication

limber walrus
#

It's...good for what it's supposed to be

proud flicker
#

they already have that product

limber walrus
#

But that doesn't mean there aren't a ton of issues

mild pelican
#

discord was sorta created as an alternative to skype for using specifically for game purposes

#

so yeah

limber walrus
#

Skype and TeamSpeak

proud flicker
#

then if MS does buy Discord, it makes sense to be bundled with Xbox

mild pelican
#

or

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they can make skype compatible with games

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or come up with a new way to communicate people, like sony did

#

with the party feature

#

i mean, they have billions, they can do a decent software from the scratch.. right?

proud flicker
#

oh yeah absolutely squirtdevious

limber walrus
#

But why make something from scratch when they don't need to?

mild pelican
#

well, that's the problem

proud flicker
#

anyhow, Discord is losing money, they will have to make money eventually.

#

and the owners need an exit strategy, that's just inevitable.

mild pelican
#

i'll be okay with some ads somewhere in the corner

#

they also talked about their own store some time ago

limber walrus
#

I feel like that would scare a ton of people off though :/ I would understand, but a lot of people wouldn't

mild pelican
#

maybe

#

well, that's more of an emergency way

#

people would be scared off anyway after other radical changes from ms inevitably..

#

but others will come with gamepass and stuff

#

so discord will make profit, but at what cost

proud flicker
#

leave discord as it, add on game pass integration

#

call it a day

mild pelican
#

discord is fine as it is, that's what we can agree on

#

this market is harsh, egs and telegram are also losing money for now

limber walrus
mild pelican
#

mew

proud flicker
#

yeah but how would discord monetize their usebase?

#

realistically

mild pelican
#

more profits from nitro.. or indeed a new store.. or some ingame goods from partners

#

discord has a lot of integration, it can be utilised eventually

proud flicker
#

but what would they sell in their store, like I am legitimately curious.

mild pelican
#

in a better world maybe even gamepass with nitro, but just from a partnership agreement with ms

mild pelican
#

games

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for people who don't like steam, or egs, or gog

proud flicker
#

if EGS can't do it, I don't believe Discord can

limber walrus
#

EGS gives free games and hundred of dollars of Unreal packages every month

mild pelican
#

many people find egs policy to be repulsive with this carrot and stick strategy

proud flicker
#

So Epic is getting money from Fortnite and UE

#

And losing money in EGS

limber walrus
#

Yup

mild pelican
#

maybe, they should stop giving this much games for free, idk

proud flicker
#

and yeah I have an EGS account only for the free game

mild pelican
#

or else how is that better than piracy

limber walrus
#

I also have it for free Unreal stuff

proud flicker
#

the marginal cost for an extra copy of a game is near non existent

mild pelican
#

i agree on that, i used to be a pirate myself

#

and a fan of emulation

proud flicker
#

so getting a game for free and pirating are both fine.

mild pelican
#

but still, people are usually come with a common opinion that "getting for free from unofficial sourses = bad" and at the same time "getting for free from official sources = good"

#

(shrug)

#

so, what was the point

#

um

#

ah.. if the discord's policy would be more attractive than egs's, while being as much developer-friendly, maybe people would consider using it

proud flicker
#

I wish Discord finds a solid way to monetize their user base

limber walrus
#

Birb!!

dawn gust
#

Bidy

fair sun
tranquil bay
#

gerry's back, how goes it

forest basalt
#

hello, i was doing not good. depression hits you harder sometimes.

#

good to be back

tranquil bay
#

yeah i saw your status

forest basalt
#

i should be goldfish now

tranquil bay
twilit quiver
#

read that as "should be goldfish now" also welcome back

forest basalt
#

you read right

#

i am goldfish

dawn gust
#

Goldfish Swolefish

proud flicker
#

what happened?

unique adder
#

Can someone help me settle a dispute? Preferably someone that works for SuperGiant.. Hades was a retail release, and not a limited release, correct? Once it sells out it'll just get a reprint I assume?

forest basalt
#

i'm gonna redirect you to #supergiant-games and hope you can find someone smarter to answer your question

limber walrus
#

That's the best place for inquiries like that

proud flicker
#

Hades PC physical release when

unique adder
#

Why does it matter where I ask the question? Do the admins not read this channel?

forest basalt
#

keeps things organized

unique adder
#

it's a general question

forest basalt
#

but it's also supergiant related

unique adder
#

Isn't this entire server supergiant related? lol

twilit quiver
#

no

limber walrus
#

Either way, this isn't the place for the question

#

the contact page I linked is

proud flicker
faint panther
#

Stuck behind the CVS receipt drive-thru order every friggin' time.

uncut siren
#

Amogus

forest basalt
#

haha yes very funny

uncut siren
#

Amogoose

mild pelican
#

amnogsus

mild pelican
faint panther
#

Amoonguss?

mild pelican
#

hows the treatment

#

any positive changes?

#

idk what it feels to be a goldfish, but i can guess

forest basalt
#

being a goldfish is great. you can't remember that you're depressed. it's full-proof.

#

best treatment i've ever had

tranquil bay
#

i kept reading goldfish as like.... the crackers..............................

#

sees myself out

forest basalt
#

then you can't think at all

#

even better

mild pelican
#

i've heard somewhere that they're supposed to be onion-shaped actually

#

and i was like, wat

forest basalt
#

get that from buzzfeed?

mild pelican
#

maybe, it was a repost of repost

forest basalt
#

ah

#

cnn

mild pelican
#

sorta

forest basalt
#

cnnn?

mild pelican
#

don't remember where, but it was a local resource

proud flicker
#

trivia time
one of these is not like the others.
which one?

strawberry
apple
banana

forest basalt
#

banana

proud flicker
#

wrong

forest basalt
#

the others are all red

faint panther
#

Strawberry is the only one with external seeds.

tranquil bay
#

strawberry bc it doesnt grow on trees?

#

or that

proud flicker
#

ding ding ding

#

strawberry is not considered a berry

#

but banana and apple are berries

faint panther
#

Gotta grow on a tree to count as a berry?

#

Or is it something else?

proud flicker
#

the seed has to be inside

#

so exactly what you said

forest basalt
#

as a local berry I can confirm

faint panther
#

Cool.

tranquil bay
quick cairn
#

i just like fruit :3

mild pelican
#

tomato is a berry

#

that means ketchup is compote

quick cairn
#

its a smoothie :3

faint panther
#

I do like a good compote.

#

Depends on if you cook it or not, Plum?

quick cairn
#

guess ill just use ketchup

faint panther
#

Marinara is a compote, ketchup is a smoothie?

tranquil bay
#

i heard the states are going thru a ketchup shortage lol i say as if i dont live here but the sheer concept is so baffling to me, a ketchup shortage

quick cairn
#

probably yea

#

i personally dont like ketchup

proud flicker
#

smoothie needs ice though

faint panther
#

I made crepes a few years ago with honey whipped cream and blueberry compote, oh man.

proud flicker
#

no?

quick cairn
#

its too acidic

proud flicker
#

so ketchup isn't smoothie

faint panther
#

Yeah, tomatoes are quite acidic.

faint panther
#

It was amazing.

quick cairn
#

i need to bake and make more sweet breakfast foods

faint panther
#

My current non-sticks are a little bum, I need to get a spot of cash and invest.

quick cairn
#

since like, i have a taiyaki iron(idk if i spelled that right) but i never use it

#

and we got a crepe pan

#

i just havent used it for crepes yet

#

god i want creme puffs now ;w;

#

or like ice cream mochi

proud flicker
#

I love strawberry

faint panther
#

Ugh.

proud flicker
#

they are so expensive though

faint panther
#

Few months ago I bought a little knock-off Mochi at the nearby grocery store and then realized when I got home it was open.

#

Didn't risk it.

proud flicker
#

oof

quick cairn
#

f

#

im not a fan of traditional mochi flavors

#

like

#

taro, red bean, etc etc

#

they just dont feel right yk

#

i generally go for ice cream ones tho since like, ice cream

#

:o the spine just started playing on my playlist :3

#

speaking of which i showed my friend the bastion and transistor soundtrack and they seem to like it :3

mild pelican
#

i literally know some people for whom transistor soundtrack was an entry point in SGG fandom

quick cairn
#

it does slap tho

#

just has a perfect vibe

#

i still need to play pyre ;w;

forest basalt
#

can't remember where i saw this but i think darren described it as like "cyberpunk lofi trip hop"

#

honestly it sounds like the perfect genre

mild pelican
#

not only 80s techno should be a default cyberpunk genre, right?

#

we're slowly coming to a real cyberpunk era, need more fitting music

forest basalt
#

ok so he described bastion as "acoustic frontier trip-hop" and transistor as "Old-world electronic post-rock"

proud flicker
#

I know some of these words

fair sun
#

We are not rly cyberpunk ish

#

We got the massive corpos, but not an underground rebellion and resurgence and prominence of heavy metal

upbeat scroll
#

You think if there was an underground rebellion you would've heard of it?

#

It's underground

simple owl
#

One thing for sure, Jen and Darren is the best duo in making you appreciate an aspect of a game

#

I've never actually waited in a place to appreciate something until I've played an SGGame

fair sun
dawn gust
fair sun
#

I kinda want to buy bloodstained kn mobile but eh

dawn gust
#

Idk how good that version is

#

I thought Bloodstained is on everything

fair sun
#

Only got lappy and moile😔

dawn gust
#

Yea it's on Steam too

#

Or do you not got Steam either

fair sun
#

Nah i got it, but i felt like mobile is easier to play

plucky elbow
#

hello

dawn gust
#

hi

stuck wave
#

There is hades mobile ?

#

Oh wait nvm

proud flicker
#

Hades mobile. You have a limited amount of boons per day.
Pay money for more boons.
If you are FTP, you can complete certain missions to get more boons e.g. surviving 45s survival rooms, fighting the barge of death, etc. to get more. Just make sure they are the most tedious stages.
Meg/Than/Dusa only talk to you after you spent a certain amount.
Director Badges are now paywall locked.
Open loot boxes for more weapon aspects, duplicates improve the aspect level.

#

SGG hire me, I will make it happen.

jovial kiln
#

Hi, I joined for the custom emojis shadesmile

proud flicker
forest basalt
dry kelp
heavy niche
#

goodbye

proud flicker
#

Why is Kansas can ass but Arkansas ass can saw?

forest basalt
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fair sun
forest basalt
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lick a spoon

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then blow on it

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it's cool

tawdry willow
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Are there any monologues in Hades?

limber walrus
tawdry willow
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Alright tysm

forest basalt
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nice pfp

hearty roost
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do you guys remember when nintendo did that weird advertiment campaign for "year of luigi?"

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that was 8 years ago ):

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i feel so old

faint panther
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Blood and darkness.

blissful charm
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was that really 8 yrs ago? it seems so much longer...

dawn gust
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it's the Year of Luigi every year

fair sun
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Mario is dead, is luigi franchise nao

dawn gust
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Shigeru Miyamoto killed his son

quiet lake
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Hey, I need non-Japanese-speakers' input on this

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How does DRESS HAIR GARDEN sound to you? Weird? Normal? What does it sound like they do there?

fair sun
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Barber

forest basalt
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they make dresses out of hair in a relaxing garden enviroment

fair sun
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How random and quirky

dawn gust
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lol

dry stratus
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dress hair garden sounds normal to me. it sounds pretty

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if they were a hairdresser, i'd like to imagine that they can braid really well

sudden torrent
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yeah sounds alright to me somewhat

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or they could be a general store for dressing up, hair stuff and garden stuff

mild pelican
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Dress hair garden sounds normal untill you start to think about it

tulip hare
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‘Hair dress gardens’ would sound slightly more normal I think

dawn gust
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just a bit

proud flicker
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Shirt Leg Balcony

dawn gust
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Pant Bottom Cupboard

bronze lintel
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Apple bottom jeans

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fruits with a fur(?)

dawn gust
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boots with the fur

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the whole club is looking at her

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she hit the floor

limber walrus
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she hit the floor

dawn gust
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next thing you know

bronze lintel
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shawty got demonetized

halcyon star
forest basalt
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i was so confused on who you were talking to then i realized it was an image.

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it's early

upbeat rain
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lmao

proud flicker
forest basalt
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well

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stop then

limber walrus
upbeat rain
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lmao

limber walrus
forest basalt
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@ 42yow on twitter

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#fan-works message

proud flicker
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I have decided to white mode part of my life

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I have ascended

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the shackles of the darkness no longer binds me

forest basalt
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🔫 tizomg

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Ti'zo orders you to change it back, NOW!

proud flicker
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mortals

dusty rover
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replacing the shackles of darkness w/ the shackles of light

forest basalt
proud flicker
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silence

forest basalt
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You can't handle the truth.

proud flicker
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no

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the false gods lied to you

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binded you to the darkness

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chained you down under the name of visibility

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but the irony, my child, how can you see in the thick blackness before you

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come to the light side

dusty rover
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i’m getting real plato’s allegory of the cave vibes

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but i’m also a darkmode fan

proud flicker
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there is the one true form of mode

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it's the light mode, the original, the alpha and the omega, progenitor of themes