h2-for-new-players

[wanton plover]

curious, for example you finish a run (beat the final boss), do the prior encounters/bosses also change and comment that you beat him bla bla?

just like in Hades 1

like i know the story stops after beating the final boss, but just curious if NPCs and prior bosses change/comment/etc.

[lilac sundial]

Been a while since my early runs like those but ya I do think I recall the bosses talking about each other.

[polar laurel]

Yeah npcs comment on that stuff. There's even some beta exclusive meta jokes about the story not being done yet

[trail blade]

Yes, tons of dialogue here. Pretty all the bosses have a fun personality the game lets you revel in a good bit.

[wanton plover]

oh that's cool haha, so basically the only thing missing mostly is the story after beating a boss? the interaction/ dialogue is mostly there, like they comment regarding your progress, etc.

[trail blade]

Pretty much, some bells and whistles and balancing is probably still out from 1.0 but the big missing thing is the ending.

[polar laurel]

Yeah I mean Mel will talk about how she beat a boss but she won't discuss what she saw because as far as we're concerned she saw nothing

[wanton plover]

so like if you beat the final boss, does the game like somewhat assume you beat him or ldo they treat it like you're dead

[polar laurel]

You beat them

[trail blade]

Nah they treat it like you beat 'em.

This was also the case for H1 EA IIRC.

[wanton plover]

cause i'm really itching to play it (300 hours hades 1), but what i really loved about hades 1 is the dialogue, story etc.

[trail blade]

Most of that's there, but if you want the ending that's still out in 1.0 land.

But the charm of Hades 1 is there, there's even Furniture Snark™ like in H1.

[wanton plover]

i assume for the ending, you have to beat the final bosses multiple times right like in hades 1?

[trail blade]

Yeah seems like it.

[polar laurel]

Yea

[wanton plover]

so when i meet up with the final boss again, do they comment that they beat you once already, etc.

or nah?

[polar laurel]

The game currently says that you can complete the story by beating the final boss a whopping "???" times

[polar laurel]

Uh I think they do

[trail blade]

Definitely do.

[polar laurel]

Actually what am I saying they definitely do

[trail blade]

Because the final boss isn't your dad they're not around as much, but I think the game makes up for it with all the other character stuff.

[polar laurel]

One of the most memorable parts of the story for me is the second attempt of the final boss, without going into spoilers. Very nice narrative payoff

[wanton plover]

does the same goes for the "other boss" since i heard there might be 2 final boss

[trail blade]

Yes.

[polar laurel]

Especially for them

[trail blade]

There's a boss like Lernie with no dialogue but everyone else is as insane and fun as ever.

[wanton plover]

btw, without spoiling too much, like how do the 2nd final boss work, like do i have to beat the first final boss multiple times before i can proceed with the 2nd boss?

[polar laurel]

You'll see very clearly when you play

It will make sense but I think it's a really cool reveal

[trail blade]

Absolutely not spoiling this, it was my biggest hype moment when I got it during EA.

[polar laurel]

Same

[trail blade]

But like. You'll know.

[wanton plover]

so basically, in theory, there should be like 2 endings? or it's not really like a "choose an ending" scenario by depending on what boss to take

[trail blade]

No, one continuous metanarrative.

[polar laurel]

We don't fully know how it'll play out yet

[trail blade]

Well, there could be multiple endings, but I doubt it.

It'll make sense when you start playing. We promise.

[wanton plover]

AHHHHH, i wanna play it so bad rn XD, but maybe i'll wait for the release

or maybe after one more minor update like tweaks, bug fixes

[polar laurel]

It's up to you, there's a good case both ways

[wanton plover]

since this update just came out

[polar laurel]

The game is on sale right now so might as well buy it in advance

[wanton plover]

I actually already have it XD

[polar laurel]

Alr

[wanton plover]

didn't open it once lol

last question, so since like there are 2 ways, like is there any reason to come back to the 1st way if you can access the 2nd way since i heard the 2nd way is more harder, something like that haha

[scenic arrow]

you will probably need to beat both sides to get the ending when the game releases

[wanton plover]

and i have to beat them both multiple times probably?

[scenic arrow]

probably

[polar laurel]

There's a lot of ways to play hades 2 that are different to each other and depending on what you do you'll get different resources, fight different enemies, and see different challenges. You'll end up doing a bit of everything throughout

[wanton plover]

thank u so muchh, hoping this releases before silksong

[polar laurel]

That's so real 😭

[scenic arrow]

honestly no clue which one will release first, it's kind of a tossup

[vital summit]

Man I feel so bb'd rn

I thought this was a 1.0 release announcement

[scenic arrow]

???

[vital summit]

the unseen trailer announcement

[scenic arrow]

oh you just saw it?

[vital summit]

ye

[scenic arrow]

yeah it's just a major update. 1.0 is next though.

[full sonnet]

Bc the end of the story is still unseen

[lilac sundial]

know if 1.0 will be the last update?

[scenic arrow]

no clue, but probably given their track record

[warped osprey]

is that confirmed? 👀

oh my gawd yeah it's literally in the game huh i didn't look at that.. at all.. too busy getting into my save 😂

[sand void]

same XD

[eternal hound]

Does anyone surmise this game could release in a month or so?

I’m ever so excited for it😍

[primal trench]

no

[sullen nebula]

definitely not lmao

[charred flame]

I thought I was being impatient ahaha

[lilac sundial]

Man, all that feedback and tech support, sure is nice for the devs for us to do all their play testing for them. Kinda hoping early access players get a special skin, or name listed somewhere for all this.

[tame blade]

I think September or October are more likely

[deep zodiac]

early access people get a cheaper game and well, early acess

Also how would u list a name of like tens of thousands of people. Besides I'm sure a company like supergiant has actual QA staff they pay to test before they ship to us

which is usually listed on games credits

[primal trench]

isnt like you were forced to do it or anything, you willingly bought the game knowing the state it was in. Being part of the process is enough of a reward for me

you could always wait for 1.0 ya know, let others do the "testing"

[crimson pagoda]

thats like what an early access game is though. don't play in early access if you don't like playing in early access haha

they even recommend in the faq to wait until the 1.0 release if you don't want to be part of it

this is a problem entirely of your own devising

[sand void]

bike meme

[crimson pagoda]

> plays early access
> game changes in response to player feedback
> why would supergiant do this

[lilac sundial]

Forgive me for daring to criticize your deity supergiant a little. Changes aren't necessarily bad, but like the new fast Polyphemus grab, look how many people are complaining about it, how did that make it even past the brainstorming stage, who asked for that in feedback? I want the game to be better, we all do hence why I bring this up. Last time too they made changes no one asked for, or liked and didn't revert it.

[primal trench]

I liked

[crimson pagoda]

i mean theres plenty of critiques to be had, even about changes that i liked. but i dont think complaining about how you should be compensated for "free playtesting" is a fair critique when you could have just not got the early access game and waited to see whether you'd like it based on the reviews when it fully comes out

like there's a difference between hey i have an issue with this bossfight and martyring yourself for playtesting an EA game lol

[lilac sundial]

lots of other games do it, I was just asking

I do like it but we could all like it more. no?

[crimson pagoda]

sure, which is what the feedback channel is for. your post seemed salty about the devs making you do playtesting for them, which is like the entire point of EA and therefore easily avoided

[lilac sundial]

eh just call me Eris lol

[scenic arrow]

nah you're more of a nemesis

[lilac sundial]

lol fair

great work on the wiki whoever already that, everything is already up to date with the latest patch, real quick like.

[scenic arrow]

???

I mean maybe some pages are updated but I can still see burnt offerings on hestia's page

[trail blade]

This is just untrue lol, and half of what's there is wrong, I had to manually correct the ||Morrigan Blood Triad|| damage.

[runic condor]

💀 why no vc

i was gonna stream h2 for yall

[vast oasis]

Isn’t it like 30 dollars?

Would they increase it still

That would be fine but I doubt ssg would do that

[vast oasis]

Deliberately misinterpreting what others said

[vast oasis]

Idk what you are seeing but h2 wiki has been consistently bad

[scenic arrow]

I mean I like H2 wiki lol

I'm not memorizing stuff like what aspects work and don't work with arc flash

[cloud shale]

heya, stupid question. Will the price of the game increase once ver 1.0 comes out?

[stoic thorn]

It's possible

It's even reasonable to assume

[trail blade]

SGG says in the Steam EA page it's not out of the question. If they do, I wouldn't expect it to be much, maybe $5 or so, but it's probably more likely you'll get a cheaper game if you buy during EA.

[steep garden]

Yippie

[frosty hawk]

Damn it that's unfortunate, is a sort of release sale a realistic thing to occur or nah?

I'm planning on getting the game once it fully releases, though now I'm thinking of getting it while it's on sale and then just playing it once it releases

[polar laurel]

since there was a sale on the update its not impossible that theres a sale at launch

i bet itll still be more expensive than it is right now

[frosty hawk]

I'll wait a bit for the steam summer sale first and then go from there then, thanks for the insight

[scenic arrow]

I doubt it

[steep cosmos]

Y'all I finally did it I beat my first run in Hades 2 only took 8 months (I have medical issues with my arms)

[sacred imp]

does anyone else find ||rivals polyphemus|| INCREDIBLY annoying

[manic dust]

Absolutely - Feels like a rushed fight design to me

[primal trench]

disagree

[wanton plover]

ohh if it's okay to ask, may i know what issues do you have? I also had an injury on my arm in the past and it took a while before i could game fully againn

[thick ice]

where can I find the Development Roadmap? 😇

[steep cosmos]

Had developing issues on my brain and spinal cord which affected my limbs so after some use my arms go numb hence why I use stuff like auto attack in rogue likes I've found ways to enjoy my games such as fighting games I bought myself an arcade stick thanks to the bigger joystick and buttons

[velvet tide]

Main menu ingame (so the first menu you see when opening the game), bottom right corner

[thick ice]

I don't own the game! can someone link a picture 😛

[hollow quail]

Hey folks trying to decide whether or not i want to hop in now or wait for v1.0 - how long would you guys guesstimate we are from full release (like are we talking 2-2 months or 4-6 months)? also how exactly did "getting the ending" work on an already played save file when it was added in hades 1? ie if youd already beaten dad 10 times im guessing you still had to beat him another 10 times to get all the scenes on the surface?

[oblique wraith]

Definitely. Wish there was a way to ||clear the poison on the ground since it's literally everywhere.|| Or at least he could just not be invincible for half the fight so you could actually keep hitting him to end the fight faster ||and minimize interaction with the poison||, though that's been a thing with bosses since the first game imo

[ebon thicket]

I don’t think you would need to beat the final boss another ten times, and it seems like a good amount of people will make a new file when 1.0 is released so if you want the story to play out a bit more clearly(might not be the right word) then you might want to wait, but the gameplay is pretty much all there at this point

[primal trench]

h1, you needed to beat it 10 times again, for dialogue and story purposes it makes sense for them to have you do it again

they cant just skip 10 runs of VERY IMPORTANT dialogue

i mean i guess they can, but isnt really something they would do

[ebon thicket]

I’d assume that some or most of that dialogue had already been said when you beat Chronos the first few times

If not then yeah ten more runs

[hollow quail]

ok thats what i had figured. do we know if its pretty much just the ending dialogues that are typically added or do you think there will be additional early game story beats

[primal trench]

theres a lot more misisng, not just the ending

[ebon thicket]

they would go through the new dialogue if there is any and then we could do our thing

[primal trench]

youre missing bonding with most of the characters

[hollow quail]

gothcha, i put in about 20-30 runs when EA first started but tabled it waiting for full release. i was planning on just waiting until 1.0 and doing a new save then but this update looks sweet and its really tempting to play some on my current save

[primal trench]

30 runs is nothing lol, youre missing like everything

[hollow quail]

its maybe a bit more im just estimating though

definitely not more than like 50 tho

correct me if im wrong but from what ive gathered if its just story elements of the game that need to be added i cant imagine that would take as much development time as adding whole new areas and bosses? the last few updates have been about 4 months between each other so i would figure that 1.0 would get turned around quicker than the last few updates but im not sure... might also be development work when it comes to porting to switch 2 they have to do before release as well

[lusty turret]

i would imagine they will polish some animations here and there as well. Keep in mind tho what "a bit of story" ment even back in Hades 1.

[scenic arrow]

disagree

[wide heron]

Nah not really I just dislike the bluetooth grab

[visual portal]

I groaned to see ||the return of poison mechanics noooooo||

[visual portal]

There’s bugs and balancing, but also this game is just enormous and there’s a lot to polish and scrub up before the big debut. More art, more voice lines and convos, etc. It is way, way bigger than Hades I already, and it’s not even done. Plus the interactivity of the story elements can making coding without major bugs a bit tricky so I imagine there’s much testing to be done.

[scenic arrow]

polyphemus ain't even that bad yall

[visual portal]

He’s not, i just don’t like ||poison mechanics,|| they’re irritating and kinda unfun. The other upgraded boss fights are both more fun and harder imo

[scenic arrow]

I think the ground ||poison|| is fine. I don't like ||Poly||'s aoes when he gets buffed though.

Especially his rock throw and forward ground slam, those travel quite fast and cover a wide area. Making them ||poison|| as well is very nasty

also you like, might be able to hit ||medea|| to make her go away and cancel the attack, I need to test more

[visual portal]

I also have done that and noticed he wasn’t doing the AOE ||poison|| in the late fight. I need to test more

[scenic arrow]

I think it's just if he's standing in it

[thin dagger]

can someone drop the roadmap link? Bought the game but computer is on fritz and I am not finding it on supergiant website.

[torpid silo]

Whats the overall opinion on Umbral Flames rework?

[scenic arrow]

1.0 is next. No release date. could take a while. No new encounters or major gameplay additions planned, focusing on story, balance, and fixes.

[vagrant ember]

how do I avoid the hexes from thingy

[frozen ember]

keep dodging

[vagrant ember]

ok

[primal trench]

I like it

[gentle spire]

maybe due in the final months of 2025

[scenic arrow]

yeah late 2025 or early 2026

earliest would be october, just because of the halloween synergy

[gentle spire]

1.0 for Hades 1 was released in september

[tame blade]

I bet on that

I understand a 2026 release, but it would be kinda discouraging for me

[primal trench]

As of now, no set date

[lilac sundial]

I've seen from other people playing this there is a purging pool between all zones in the underworld, but I don't have one? I think I've got all the upgrades? For me there is only one before each final zone.

[scenic arrow]

there's an incantation for it

you need to beat one run, and cleanse 3 boons to unlock it

[lilac sundial]

hmm maaaaybe I haven't cleansed three boons before. I've beaten a lot more than one run. thanks

[lilac sundial]

did you perhaps mean 3 in one run?

[scenic arrow]

don't think so, just 3 in general

[vivid flare]

Thought it was 5, but yeah. It can be across multiple runs

[wanton plover]

how many months is this after the last major update of hades 1?

[scenic arrow]

like 4

[primal trench]

Granted the end game for h1 was a lot simpler compared to what it appears to be the ending of h2

They also worked on a hidden aspect as well as em4

[scenic arrow]

yeah, I suspect that wrapping up H2 will take longer then H1

I also kinda just don't believe there will be no new encounters for 1.0

[primal trench]

Yeah, lots of voice acting, and that stuff ain't easy

[scenic arrow]

so far, we have no secret boss, which is kinda ok, but I really think the ending of the story will kinda be dampened if you don't have a unique encounter

[primal trench]

We should also expect a minor patch in between with some balancing for the aspects and bosses

[scenic arrow]

we cannot just do "kill the final boss 10 times to end the story" anymore, I think

[primal trench]

Sure we can, why not

Also omega spoiler btw, wrong channel

[scenic arrow]

oh oopsy

even for H1 it was kinda underwhelming, to gear up for a final showdown and it just... didn't happen

It did make sense for story reasons, but still, there's that deflation and you're like, "oh, ok!"

and H2 isn't just a family drama, it's more of a war story

ending a war without doing anything more than the norm is just... weird

[wanton plover]

in the ppast, after the last major update in H1, did they announce the release date or did it take a while for the actual release date to be known?

[scenic arrow]

don't think so, there was no release date trailer at least

[lilac sundial]

got it now, thanks again.

[sage mason]

Hi, I'm new here

I started a new save with the recent update, and haven't found Arachne after 9 nights. Starting to wonder if it's bugged.

I would choose the path to her if I see it. Seems like a long time for her to randomly not show up.

[celest elbow]

Arachne took forever to show up for me - the first time I saw her was when she visits the Crossroads

She starting showing up in runs after that, but not nearly as frequently as she did in previous saves

[sage mason]

Oh weird. Maybe progressing fast delays her

Like other events take priority if you're making a lot of progress

So my save from the first early access last year i probably had a few more runs before getting out of erebus. Or there's just more random chance in it than I expected?

[languid sentinel]

strange, I always found her in the first (tutorial) run

[scenic arrow]

could be the fresh save route has changed with update?

[lilac sundial]

"Shiva has been discussed here more than in actual Hindu texts at this point." lmaoooo

[trail blade]

It's true tho.

[scenic arrow]

hey spoilers

[sage mason]

Just met arachne in town. Melinoe already knew her name.

[primal trench]

She always did iirc, even if you meet her in her chamber

They knew each other before the beginning of the game

[eager canyon]

what does "prioritize keepsake" do?

as opposed to equipping it

[fair raven]

whenever you go back to the training grounds the prioritized keepsake will auto-equip so you don't have to switch back after the run ends

[cobalt rivet]

If you're concerned about bugs, you should put it in the tech support chat. Not in the no spoiler chat.

Speaking of which, without mentioning what any of them are, can someone please tell me what I need to do to trigger the hidden aspects?

[covert coral]

to get the hidden aspects, you need to talk to npcs more (charon, medea, circe, etc.)

[cobalt rivet]

Thanks 🙏🏻

[sage mason]

Finally encountered arachne on night 15 or so

Had to skip a hammer to get her (wasn't sure how many runs it would take to get the option again)

I imagine finding her once will make her show up more often

[vivid flare]

You need at least one aspect of that weapon at max level, then talk to the Unseen member with an aspect for the weapon like the other person mentioned

[frozen ember]

you get later opportunities for hammers if you pass up early ones fwiw, it's like h1 in that sense

[woeful solstice]

Hades 2

[sacred imp]

wait that’s a thing?!

I mean there’s nothing that would make me skip over a hammer unless it’s healing and I’m on like 2 health

[primal trench]

youre pretty much almost always guaranteed 2 hammers via rewards

[frozen ember]

if you don't take a hammer in erebus you'll be offered one in oceanus most of the time

[primal trench]

then another in fields

[frozen ember]

if you only have one by the time you hit the last region I believe charon is guaranteed to offer one before the final boss

but I've never tested that because it's mostly useful for a three hammer gimmick with ||echo's || new boon AIUI

[green gorge]

hi @bronze loom regarding your most recent message in #h2-feedback.
#h2-feedback is not intended for bug reporting, in future please report any bugs encountered by pressing the key on your keyboard in game or by rebinding aforementioned to an unused button if using a steam deck or similar

[eager canyon]

can you not get duo boons in versus rooms where you need to pick between 2 gods?

suffering from success 😭

[vivid flare]

Yeah, Dispute rooms can't roll Duos. You can get Legendaries, though

[eager canyon]

makes sense, thanks!

thought i struck gold bc im missing hephaestus and demeter's duo boon...got 1 from each of them then bam the vs room was both of them lol

[bronze loom]

Sorry about that! I googled where to report bugs and the internet said it was here 😅 my bad!

[eager canyon]

no duo boons from echo either?? damn

[primal trench]

wdym?

[eager canyon]

i think i was just unlucky, peep my big message right after that lol

[primal trench]

oh, yeah im pretty sure that boon is normal, just unlucky

[halcyon rover]

WOOOOOO BEAT HECATE FOR THE FIRST TIME!!!!

annnnnd now I died to pointy fish

[odd remnant]

Hello everyone. I went up to the last boss available on the surface after patch 6 and started upping fear before deciding I preferred to stop for now and wait until the full game release to start a fresh save on it. I heard the latest patch was getting very near to the final version and wondered if it would be a good timing to come back to that game, considering I have free time for a week and hoping the full release comes before I reach back to the endgame content. Is that a reasonable plan or should I wait a couple months more before doing it ?

[frozen ember]

It's a good time to hop back in in general, discussion's very active and there's a lot of content that hasn't been figured out yet — you're probably not going to max everything and see all current story content in a week off. With that said 1.0 is probably not until like, November at the earliest and it's more likely Jan-Feb IMO.

[odd remnant]

It will be hard but I'll wait until then in that case. Thanks 🙂

[stoic thorn]

Heracles is really growing on me. I mean, I liked him to begin with, but I dunno. I really resonate with his frustration and cynicism towards his never-ending busy work for the gods. Like, how much more does he have to prove himself? How much more does he have to atone? I just ran into him in Ephyra and his opening shout was "For you, father!" and it kinda broke my heart. He's fighting so hard for recognition it seems like he's never going to get :(

[lilac sundial]

Obviously the devs are looking here for feedback, fixes and some talking, but do they look at other pages like the reddit one at all?

[tame blade]

Maybe

I like to think that they laughed a little after seeing the pre -update madness

[crimson pagoda]

if i was a dev i would

but i also am not one, so i don't know if that becomes a thing you need to inoculate from lest you be driven mad at a certain point of success

[weary tartan]

im sure some check out other places to gauge sentiment but as far as I know the feedback channels are the place they check/value the most

[lilac sundial]

Just wondering if people are yelling into the void there when trying to get the devs attention

[fair raven]

in the noclip doc i remember sg looking at people streaming h1 on twitch during EA, which gives me the impression that they like to monitor how people react to their games online in general

[trail blade]

You could also see in the Noclip doc they checked reddit and stuff a few times at least.

[whole folio]

Just I know I'm not spinning my wheels:

Have ALL of the hidden aspects been implemented?

[frozen ember]

yes

[full sonnet]

Skipping hammers is useful for when you see a hammer but youre getting bad vibes from it

[fair raven]

hey my familiar and i saw you from across the chamber and we really hated your vibe

[obsidian yoke]

any tips for rivals hecate? i keep losing track of her and then take a bunch of damage trying to find the right hecate again

[fair raven]

the real one is the only one who runs around the arena while the clones are p stationary

[polar laurel]

status effects with visual indicators always show on the right one. things like daze and scorch. most weapons have ranged attacks that can be used to test which one is real, too.

[vivid flare]

The flames that the clones shoot are also a different color. Hecate's fire is more turquoise, the clones are more green

[scenic arrow]

yeah debuffs are handy. Scorch, Froth, Hitch are easy ways to identify which one was the one you were attacking before

[nimble gulch]

Hi,
I've defeated "you know who" have ~30 nights at maybe 20hours. I want to start using other weapons than the base ones, but cannot unlock the last one before I get Bronze which is obtained "somewhere" I cannot access yet. How do I progress?

[elfin swift]

you need to go to the surface, its accessible via incantation

[nimble gulch]

Oh, incantation, didnt think of looking there. Thanks

[frozen ember]

always check your incantations, but you might not have this one unlocked, it unlocks after a particular dialogue from hermes

(and then I think you have to talk to hecate?)

[nimble gulch]

I must have missed step because I've been going Hermes and pouiring juice on him since I knew it had something todo with him, but incantation, here I go!

[little hatch]

Anyone knows how the achievements will come? I didn't want my progress now affects it

[tame blade]

Don't remember exactly, but I think that will unlock immediately if you did the respective tasks

SGG said something about on Twitter, I recommend check it out

[little hatch]

Alr, ty!!

[shy zephyr]

what the heck did you have to do to get the gods' boon info in your book

I've given 2 nectar to every god except ||ares||

the incantation just doesn't appear 😂

[cobalt rivet]

#h2-builds-and-combat might be a better place if your looking for advice

[obsidian yoke]

Ill try that thanks

[covert coral]

iirc, you need to get every keepsake of each god

then the respective incantation for the god boons should available

[shy zephyr]

done that for a good while already, who gives me the incantation?

[scenic arrow]

you might need to give some extra nectar if you haven't

[shy zephyr]

more than 2? 🗿

i got it pretty early in my last save, not sure what's happening

[scenic arrow]

you need to open the book

and gift 1 nectar to every god including chaos

the incantation is called "insight into offerings"

[shy zephyr]

does that include ||dionysus||? he's the only one i haven't gifted yet

also how do i unlock the next set of ||rivals||? does hecate give me permission or something? i want to see them all so i can hop back into spoiler chat asap

[signal bolt]

incantation should be unlocked once u beat what's available

[shy zephyr]

ok yeah my game's tripping then

I'll just do some more runs tomorrow and see if the incantation pops

[covert coral]

each next set of rivals become available once you beat the first one thats given

[strange flame]

To be clear that’s with rivals ||beaten on both routes once||

[primal willow]

i am not getting the ||consecration of ashes|| incantation? could someone tell me the requirements

[covert coral]

iirc, you have to click your portrait in the arcana (full upgrade i think?) then after, kill hecate once and you get the incantation :>

[primal willow]

sorry, what do you mean click my portrait... i don't see my face 😭

[covert coral]

wrong context 😭 i meant the portrait of meli :,>>

[primal willow]

ah, i still don't see it, which one is it? is it ||the sorceres card? ||

[covert coral]

yesh(?)

i cant remember exactly what the card looks like :>

[primal willow]

ive done that and ive reached ||cerberus at least 5 times|| yet it still doesn't pop up 😭

[covert coral]

heh...weird

[primal willow]

i also don't get the seed from ||chaos|| 😭

idk

[covert coral]

you mean origin seeds?

[primal willow]

yea

[covert coral]

rn its rarity for popping up increased

[primal willow]

ah

[covert coral]

how many points do you have in your arcana?

[primal willow]

what do you mean by points

[fair raven]

i think they mean grasp? which would be 30 max

[primal willow]

oh i have 18

[fair raven]

girl it's game changing

[primal willow]

wdym

[fair raven]

having max grasp and maxed arcana cards just makes you a lot more powerful

[primal willow]

oh, i can't even upgrade acana cards😭

i think its bugged or something, maybe im missing something

[fair raven]

you need stardust i think. maybe an incant to unlock it? i upgraded everything a while ago so idr

[covert coral]

you need at least 22 to 26/28 to get consecration

[covert coral]

*moondust

[fair raven]

yeah you're right i always mix up the names of those two 🤦‍♀️

[vivid flare]

I mean, you can turn stardust into moon dust

[primal willow]

wait u mean 22 grasp? wdym by 26/28

[fair raven]

it means that you need to upgrade your grasp from 18 to one of those numbers to get the incant (consecration) to update your cards

[primal willow]

icic

[covert coral]

sry i keep contextualizing it the wrong way, yes 22 to 26/28 grasp

[shy zephyr]

update, in night 31 i gave a nectar to ||dionysus|| which was the last olympian without one and also got ||my first surface win|| of the savefile, and then insight into offerings finally appeared. not sure which one made it work but I'll take it

i remember in warsong patch you just had to give a single nectar to the 7 boon givers available from start, did they change it?

[covert coral]

afaik you'll have to earn each keepsake to get insights into offerings

[shy zephyr]

so I've already||beaten rival 1 bosses|| multiple times, how does the next set unlock exactly? does it just appear in the ||oath||? is it a dialogue with hecate? does it have an incantation?

[weary tartan]

||beat both routes rivals boss with each rivals level, in this case do poly and hecate to unlock rivals 2||

[vale sand]

incantation

[frozen ember]

talk to selene

[weary tartan]

it gave me the incantation right after i beat the second boss afaik

but I think that's cause it was tied to a fated list thing? can't remember at this point

[scenic arrow]

Hades 2 on sale right now

[shy zephyr]

she's already commented on it, i expected it to appear next run but it just doesn't 😭

[covert coral]

selene technically doesnt trigger the next set of rivals, she more/less comments that "she's with you"

you unlock the next set of rivals via incantation after defeating whatever is current

so lets say you wanna get 2nd set of rivals; beat both hecate and poly on rivals then the incantation will appear for the next set

[tacit hill]

how do I unlock ||Heracles ambrosia gift||?

[covert coral]

keep talking and keep giving nectar

[fresh imp]

can anyone advise me on how to dodge unrivalled eris' ||triple beam||?

it seems like i just dont have time to get to the correct distance to dodge comfortably

[shy zephyr]

which is exactly what isn't happening right now

I've beaten both multiple times and selene commented on it, still nothing

[hardy aurora]

I get in close and dodge directly behind her

[fresh imp]

i fiind that quite difficult because she can drop in anywhere

and if the ||firebombs|| are behind her then im cooked

[hardy aurora]

Yeah fair that does get me sometimes. I try to burst those as soon as they drop to avoid running into that problem later on. Lots of dodging and praying tbh, but most of the time, it works for me.

[fresh imp]

i think the dps increase in the last phase is a little excessive though

😭

[hardy aurora]

Oh absolutely. That’s the part that cooks me every time.

[fresh imp]

21 dps is a Bit Much

[hardy aurora]

My best advice is keep as close to Eris’ back as possible. The urge to get away from her is strong, but generally leads to getting absolutely blown away

[shy zephyr]

at least you guys GET TO FIGHT HER

WHERE IS MY SECOND SET JOHN SUPERGIANT?

[fresh imp]

is there a way to tell where she'll drop?

i find myself taking damage because she just flies away and does the attack before i can physically get close

[hardy aurora]

Not that I’ve noticed, but if you stick closer to the center of the arena, you should be able to practice dodging quickly enough

[fresh imp]

ahh good idea

[hardy aurora]

You’ve got this!

[scenic arrow]

have you seen all minibosses in ||Thessaly||?

[shy zephyr]

yup

OH WAIT YOU'RE RIGHT

i haven't seen ||charybdis|| yet

[scenic arrow]

You need to:
||Beat Rivals 1 Hecate and Polyphemus
Beat Charybdis, probably||

[shy zephyr]

is he ||with scylla|| oh my god 😂

[scenic arrow]

*she, probably, or maybe it

[shy zephyr]

thank you sauce man for the help 🙏 I'll be grinding ||thessaly|| for a while lol

[strange flame]

The one positive is I don’t think you need to beat mini bosses with the rivals active so you could just drop fear and speed to them until you find them

[primal trench]

I track her laugh

[vernal salmon]

||i want to romance Hercules**.**||

[shy zephyr]

i need to have frenzy2 on permanently to get used to it and i need the practice for ||rival poly|| as he keeps kicking my ass so can't go below 8 😂

[exotic leaf]

has h2 become harder over the past couple updates? or am i just out of practice?

[covert coral]

kinda? unless you havent been playing since, then yes

[shy zephyr]

being out of practice is definitely a major factor. i remember breezing through ||32 fear surface|| on my first attempt. came back after 2 months of not playing and frenzy2 ||eris|| is killing half my runs

[exotic leaf]

alright, thanks hehe

[ebon meteor]

They have nerfed Strength a bit, and made a few more adjustments (I think even baseline Chronos is a bit buffed though I may be mistaken about that) so that might also be a factor

[shy zephyr]

yeah chronos ||now delays his swings which means you have to wait and dodge at the right time||. before you just dashed behind him as soon as he started any animation and it would evade everything

[echo wing]

sorry if i'm the 8 gazilionth person to ask this but do we have a rough idea of when the game will release fully?
i just got it and want to play it but if the full release is just around the corner it would be better to wait a lil longer y'know
and since i heard the latest patch was basically the last before the full release i'm really curious

it might be better to ask in the discussion but i really don't want to catch a stray spoiler ;-;

[frozen ember]

everyone's best guess is sometimes from Nov to Feb, probably on the later end

[echo wing]

My lack of patience screams in pain from hearing that
May super giant be blessed with super human (or giant ) abilities and be able to do it faster somehow

[shy zephyr]

i expect them to try to release it before christmas because holiday sales are massive

[echo wing]

that's true! and also the holiday cards are always adorable as all heck

[tame blade]

September-October or a little later than that (my guess)

[echo wing]

OMG! if it releases on October 20th then it's a birthday present for me from Supergiant Games

[grand nest]

||Charib-deeznuts||

[shy zephyr]

☹️

[grand nest]

[sand void]

no October please, October is Ghost of Yotei month

[shy zephyr]

also ninja gaiden 4 ‼️

[tiny otter]

I hope this game gets an expansion pack.
They probably won’t make a Hades 3...

[scenic arrow]

I disagree

[tacit sphinx]

Lucky

[polar laurel]

The "expansion pack" is each major update

[full sonnet]

Er, no... we're playing an unfinished game, each update finishes more of the game

Though I wouldnt expect an expansion pack, its just not that kind of game

[prisma knot]

I wouldn't mind a full priced dlc that gives a major spinoff story for mel and potentially zag

A whole title requires a lot of creative effort to remain as quality as the prequels have been

So a decent middle ground would be them working with what we have and giving us more of the characters we like while they cook up new ideas for either this series or other

And if it's high quality and big enough to warrant a full priced game i think everyone would be as satisfied as they were with elder ring and witcher dlcs, the idea itself isn't bad but most companies use it for quick bucks but we trust sgg not to (so far)

[shy zephyr]

nope, once hades 2 is done ssg will switch full speed to making pyre 2 🔥💯

[vast oasis]

🍅

[vast oasis]

We aren’t getting more hades content

Besides 1.0 and minor patches

[primal trench]

How'd you know

[vast oasis]

I’m hoping if I say it confidently it becomes fact since I don’t want new hades content

[primal trench]

Ok I made it up type vibe

[vast oasis]

I mean it’s probably right

[primal trench]

How so

[scenic arrow]

Has supergiant ever done major post-launch content for their past 4 games?

[primal trench]

Had supergiant ever done a sequel? Here we are

[scenic arrow]

yeah honestly big question marks for me there too

[quaint fox]

for bastion they later added am extra enemy rush level, and for pyre they later added a harder difficulty. but nothing like, super major

[primal trench]

Point being, just because they haven't in the past, doesn't mean is impossible

[scenic arrow]

I'm really hoping not

[tame blade]

And I dreamed with Hades 2 again

C'mon SGG that's a sign

[scenic arrow]

1.0 tomorrow

[shy zephyr]

been avoiding the spoiler channel since the update to see all the new content by myself and it was soooo worth it

and I've still 2 more hidden aspects and ||rival4|| left to see

[bold hill]

oh my god yes please

[agile rivet]

I've only unlocked the secret aspect of the axe, can I get a not-too-spoilery hint on how to unlock another one?

[agile rivet]

Oooooh

[scenic arrow]

||You need level 5 in an aspect, and all 3 aspects unlocked as well||

[agile rivet]

Oh the ||level 5 detail|| might be what's holding me back. I think I only have 1 or 2 other weapons ready in that regard

[glacial dove]

Playing Hades 2 and getting back into DnD with my friends makes me wanna make a character based on Greek Myth but idk which option to go with 😭

[sly pumice]

There is || something in common all of the npcs responsible for unlocks have ||

[tame blade]

Happened again

This time you could see something like the locations of the previous bearers of the nocturnal arms

[candid sphinx]

hey is there a way to upgrade my pets right 🥺 ?

[obsidian yoke]

yes you can feed them beast loved morsels which you make in the right side tab of the cauldron

[candid sphinx]

how can i 😭, i have like 5 of this cookies but i dont find the place to gave it to them

[vivid flare]

Have you done the incantation to upgrade them?

[candid sphinx]

ohh, that might be the problem

:p

[sacred pike]

how many updates yet for full game

[scenic arrow]

next update is 1.0

[candid sphinx]

hey i got a question with a picture where can i send it?

[scenic mango]

here, u just have to link the picture instead of directly posting it

[scenic arrow]

whoa spoilers

[lavish apex]

damn wrong chat hahah

[scenic arrow]

||(The real answer is that you summoned a healing hourglass, which is extremely buggy right now, and sometimes just shoots you for 500 damage)||

[lavish apex]

one of the worst things i could post too lmao

[midnight abyss]

Really liked Hades 1 & 2, are those other games by Supergiant Games of similar quality and fun?

[shy zephyr]

idk i haven't played them 🗿

I've heard plenty of compliments about them, but don't go expecting a life changing experience

[vivid flare]

I've heard good things about Transistor and Bastion

[proven tide]

right now is the perfect time to buy full Supergiant Collection on Steam and experience those titles for yourself!

[tepid olive]

Having searched before I had hoped I would unlock the random Chaos trials after unlocking all the weapons. However, this does not seem to be the case. What else do I need to do?

[cold dust]

Wiki has all the requirements listed for the trials
Some of them you need to give nectar to certain gods, have certain arcana cards, and have succeeded in getting past a certain area

[lunar tree]

Guys the game is already 1.0V?

[worldly topaz]

no and wont be for several months

[lunar tree]

Rough. But you guys think is worth to play right now, or just wait?

[tame blade]

If you want to see the full story, better wait, but in therms of gameplay is pretty complete, so depends

[lunar tree]

Valeu, quadrado.

[cold dust]

honestly I think it's worth
the bosses are a lil tough, but theres still SO much gameplay and things to do. I have like 33 hours on the game and I've barely scratched the surface I'm pretty sure LOL

[lunar tree]

I heard there is more bosses than Hades 1

[obsidian yoke]

yes that is true

[tepid olive]

I'm sorry, is this the Fandom wiki? Or is there another one I should use?

[cold dust]

Yea, fandom

[tepid olive]

The list on that one does not include any of the new trials nor does it include info about Chaos Above/Chaos Below, which is why I asked in here

[cold dust]

ahh

i see, mb

[tepid olive]

No problem pal, I hope I can get an answer 🙂

[tame blade]

De nada mano

[vivid flare]

Do you also have all the keepsakes?

[vast oasis]

||get all the keepsakes all the aspects beat both routes, should help||

[tawny bison]

definitely imo… also super interesting to see how SGG have iterated on gameplay + story concepts throughout their games, there’s definitely themes they love coming back to

they’ve consistently stated how hades 1 wouldn’t exist if they hadn’t made pyre, and after playing it last year it was def easy to see why! hades 1 is SGG taking what they learned gameplay-wise from bastion/transistor + storytelling-wise from pyre

[tepid olive]

Hello, I have all keepsakes maxed out, and all aspects. Do I need to max out all the aspects?

[vast oasis]

Not that I’m aware of, how many trials have you unlocked yet

[tepid olive]

30

Only thing I can think of is I haven't done VoR for the last boss on the Surface yet

[teal spear]

had my first victory since the update against chronos yesterday w medea wands

i struggle a lot w choosing more than two weapons but this game's done a pretty good job at making me switch, i use p much everything but the skull

in the first game i p much only used the bow cuz i'm a big bow fan

[gentle spire]

My first 32 fear run. Oof

24 Fear on the surface was harder tbh

[sand void]

If you want to check any of the other ones I would personally recommend Transistor. It's a lot shorter than Hades 1 & 2 but I loved the story

[midnight abyss]

Will keep in mind as soon as i have some time for new games

[primal trench]

they are all good, just gotta keep in mind the others arent roguelikes like h1 and 2

[manic dust]

I recommend Bastion, the most similar to Hades in many of its core mechanics (even if it is not a roguelike) thus the less "disruptive" game for a Hades player. (I started Transistor while griding H1, and for me it was not the best moment to embrace its very specific gameplay - purely personal opinion)
Whatever the game you'll get the same quality and the signature features of SGG games: a fantastic narrator, and a haunting soundtrack.

[burnt parrot]

I love ur entrapta icon

[obsidian yoke]

Thank you!

[tiny bolt]

Is there a canon layout for house of hades decoration layout in hades 1?

If hades 2 takes place in the future

Cuz that would be kinda funny

[primal trench]

What

[wary night]

...kind of? spoilers for a story scene in H2: ||we see the house of hades in a flashback, and there are specific paintings and rugs etc on display. But still, all that really means is that those decorations were on display when the events of Hades 2 started—the House wouldn't necessarily need to look like that during the plot of Hades 1 "in canon," since they could have changed the decorations between the end of 1 and the inciting incident of 2.||

[tiny bolt]

I see

Ok thanks

[tiny bolt]

Sorry if that was a weird sentence, I had to google if canon was spelt canon or cannon midway through typing it

So I kinda forgot what I typed

[grand lynx]

nooo the sentence makes sense

its just confusing with no context lmao

[sand void]

I understood what you meant

[primal trench]

Now that I read an answer it does make sense

But reading at first kinda confused me

[tiny bolt]

Oh lol

[sand void]

anyone knows to what degree Giving Up randomizes the seed? I'm tired of not getting ||Medea|| in ||Surface|| runs. I still need to ||unlock her phrase|| for the || hidden aspect||

[woeful vapor]

Giving up doesn't change the seed at all, it stays exactly the same

[scenic arrow]

you need to die to shuffle the seed, or unlock saluting the oath

[woeful vapor]

You need to unlock ||a certain incantation|| that allows you to reroll the seed

[sand void]

Ok, thanks!

[shy zephyr]

||ephyra layout|| is 2 rooms into the run so technically it can change a little

but idk how hades 2 seed manipulation works 🤔

[frozen ember]

||ephyra|| is impossible to route, as I understand it

[idle night]

“Inside, I’m screaming” - Dora, 2025

[bronze zephyr]

Are there any non-spoiler hints that folks can drop about how to unlock the new weapon Aspects? After a couple dozen runs on the new patch, I've only found the waking phrase for the Skull. Acceptable hints would be things like "clear with higher levels of fear" or "give nectar to everyone" or "do more chaos trials" or something like that. I'm just a little frustrated; I'd love to discover the new content, but have no idea how to get there.

[zinc lodge]

||all the people you get the phrases from have something in common||

Thats the best hint i can think of

[bronze zephyr]

@zinc lodge ......... I think I know what you mean, and I was suspicious that might be the case, but I've not had any luck so far. Alright, then, I'll keep trying.

[zinc lodge]

Any “reqs” to get them will usually come naturally too

[crimson pagoda]

||you need to rank up the current aspects you own || is the best hint i can think of if u already know the other one

[vivid flare]

(The full answer) ||Do you have at least one aspect at rank 5, and all 3 aspects unlocked for the weapon?||

[crystal summit]

hi

[bronze zephyr]

I just unlocked the ||last non-Legendary Aspect. I have one Aspect at Level 5... on the Skull, I think, which is the weapon I found the Legendary Aspect for. So, need to rank up an Aspect for each weapon then? || Okay. Not sure I would have thought to do that.

[shy zephyr]

ok I'm just gonna say the prerequisite, ||have all the 3 base aspects unlocked and also one of them at max level||
regarding who you have to talk to for the awakening phrase, you'll figure it out on your own

[gleaming wasp]

Does "successively clear" in the prophecy mean I have to do two chaos trials in a row, or can I do regular runs in between?

[vivid flare]

Need to do two of the same Eden runs in a row, IIRC (so two route 1 or two route 2)

[gleaming wasp]

Really? It says "successively clear any two completely random chaos trials", which I understood to mean any two of the (Greater) Chaos Above/Below

[vivid flare]

I've heard it doesn't work if you do Chaos Above -> Chaos Below or vice versa

[gleaming wasp]

Ugh then the description needs to be reworded.

... Unless it actually says "two of any random chaos trial", but it's still confusing

[vivid flare]

No, it's meant to be two of the Chaos Above/Chaos Below, but I've heard it can be weird about counting if you do two different ones

So I'm pretty sure two Chaos Above or two Chaos Below work, one of each doesn't

[gleaming wasp]

And they have to be in a row, without other runs in between 😩 that feels kind of unfun to me, but ok

[unique sundial]

No you can do runs in between

[native trout]

Spoiler alert hades 2 is the sequel of the popular 2020 video game hades where you play as Zagreus trying to find answers about your family

[sand void]

whoa ||spoilers||

[modern olive]

can i view my attack damage somewhere during a run?

unsure how to judge flat attack power bonuses otherwise

[primal trench]

slap something, see the number

[modern olive]

i mean while in the boon selection screen

[modern olive]

^

also it'd be useful if I could view my base damage instead of the net damage including any modifiers

[primal trench]

both games follow a simple logic, if your weapon has fast hitting pattern grab something that deals flat dmg, if its more slow hard hitting grab a % increase boon

the rest just comes with game experience

[modern olive]

how come

[modern olive]

idk, I dont like bothering with build stuff too much, I prefer just taking whatever looks good in the moment
got me through hades 1 fine

[primal trench]

well, your question seems otherwise, when this game is the same

[modern olive]

well how can I know what looks better if I have to choose between +% and +flat

[modern olive]

this sounds like a useful rule of thumb but what is it based on

[vivid flare]

They just told you how

[modern olive]

but they didnt explain why thats the case :v

[primal trench]

for example, the most common one, pan daggers, the especial throws a lot knives, that deal relatively low damage, so something liek poseidon is good. on the other hand, the axes, slow but hard, is better to take something like aphrodite

[vivid flare]

If a weapon hits for 10 per hit, but hits 5 times a second, what's a bigger increase?

80% damage, or 20 per hit?

[modern olive]

makes sense

i just had no idea how much the weapon hit for, so I didnt have that reference :v
that was what my original question was about asw

[primal trench]

+20 per hit is a flat %200 of 10

[primal trench]

smack the skeleton, see the number

thats his purpose

[modern olive]

TIL
thanks for the tips!

[scenic arrow]

yeah if you wanna know power, unequip all arcana that might be boosting damage, and smack skelly, or just look at the wiki

[kind sparrow]

I’m listening to the music and Mountain of the Gods has the leitmotif from On the Coast!!! Are there any other obvious leitmotif you guys recognize??

Music so peak I think I’m gonna cry lmao

[scenic arrow]

*leitmotif

[primal trench]

bro is speaking the language of darren, i dont speak that tongue

[kind sparrow]

The spelling always gets me 💔

[scenic arrow]

le motif sounds like a meme

[shy zephyr]

le motif 🤌 🥖 🇫🇷

[mortal shuttle]

Compare Into Tartarus from H2 with Out of Tartarus from H1

[vast oasis]

🐸

[vivid flare]

Please check which channel you just posted this in

[sweet mica]

oh sorry

[weary tartan]

I mean the main hades motif is everywhere, chronos has a motif that shows up in the return to shadow now music and such but yes the surface motif on ||olympus|| had me hyped asf

[blissful forge]

Maybe a too obvious one, but ||Dionysus|| room on the surface (3rd area) is jazz remix of Moonlight Guide Us. I didn’t notice it at first which is why I think it’s nifty! But then again I’m not good at picking out leitmotifs

[vivid flare]

Lap of Luxury is a remix of On the Coast

[thorn plaza]

i heard someone mentiom a quest with ||hypnos.|| is that real, and if so, how do I start it?

[shy zephyr]

give nectar twice

[lunar tree]

Guys how long Hades 2 is, gameplay-wise?

[tall plover]

No real upper limit on playtime. Seeing the (yet-to-be-completed) story to its end will probably take 40+ hours? 100%ing a file will probably take over 100 hours unless you're ultra efficient.

These are incredibly rough estimates based on H1.

[primal trench]

As the other person said, that kinda depends on your enjoyment of the game, I have close to 300 hrs so far, some have more, some less

[candid pelican]

Need advice. ||Should I romance Eris? Because lowkey I don’t know if I want to.||

[vivid flare]

Flip a coin

[candid pelican]

Smart

Honestly best option😭

[primal trench]

Yes

[sterile snow]

Toxic yuri, yes absolutely

[primal trench]

Yuri? Is that like a hidden middle name reference or what

[sterile snow]

Wot

I'm dumb if this is a reference I dont get it

[primal trench]

Wdym toxic yuri

I'm the one that doesn't get the reference lmao

Whos yuri

[sterile snow]

Yuri = lesbian (just the Japanese term I think)

[primal trench]

Oh

[signal bolt]

that reminds me how ||i was actively preventing melinoe from getting any romance at all when unseen dropped, but then i genuinely did not expect eris to actually have a romance option i was like "hmmm yea why not" ||

[tiny otter]

Friends with lots of hearts usually lead to romance. ||In the end, they ask you to go out with them, but you can choose.||

[weary tartan]

theres a special heart section for romancable routes no?

[vagrant finch]

There is, an arrow through a heart just like h1 iirc

[lone wagon]

I'm only romancing ||Moros and Icarus||. It's not because I want her to be straight, I just think ||Nemesis and Eris|| are insufferable b-words.

[vivid flare]

Inject the toxic yuri into your veins

[weary tartan]

nem is just locked in 24/7 tbf

[pine night]

my goat nem just not geeking

[steel folio]

I don't like the ||nemesis|| competition event too much. I almost always end up losing.

[robust crown]

I didnt Research bc i dint want to spoil me to much but do yall think hades 2 is better than hades im hyped to play hades 2 but im waiting for it to officialy Release

[shy zephyr]

the gameplays are a little different so it depends on your taste
some say 1 was better, some are liking 2 more

[robust crown]

So its on a similar Level thats all i had to know im hyped i only know about the mc otherwise nearly nothing thx

[scenic arrow]

Hades II

[nimble gulch]

I am apparantly too stupid for this game, the eagle dudes bombardment sequence is impossible for me to figure out that quickly. I get recked every time. 100 dmg is tough. Did we ever have such a gameplay "puzzle" like that in Hades before?

[shy zephyr]

you just have to ||memorize 4 spots||

[nimble gulch]

Hence my statement that I may be too stupid for this game, since that is not going very well for me 😦

[shy zephyr]

technically you can just dodge the fires but that requires learning the timing

the way i do it is ||i go stand in the first zone and forget about it, then i just loudly say the safe zones 2-5 like "middle right middle left" as they show up||

[vivid flare]

You could pause and write down the safe spots

And technically, the volley that Theseus does when he starts his second phase is similar to this

[nimble gulch]

Might be the fact that it didn't do 100hp dmg in that fight, this sequence is just that much more punishing.

[umbral crypt]

I don’t know I think the best place to do it is in the first area with the ||axe|| I got up to like 50+ ahead that way
(Idk if i had to spoiler so I did)

[vivid flare]

It only does 60 if you run Strength :3

[tepid plank]

the thing is with that event is that if it's not going well, it usually means that either it's so early that it doesn't matter because || your arcana ideally gives +300 gold or you didn't have gold to begin with || or your build isn't doing enough dps, which in turn means your run will probably end at the next boss or two. it's really less of a skill check and more of a build check.

[primal trench]

I use numbers, 1-3!

[primal trench]

"Only 60" lmao

[sand void]

having the Hermes boon that makes enemies projectiles -X% slower helps, in the whole fight

||Hard Target|| is the boon called

[sand void]

I've also found that ||Dark Side||, the Selene Hex, helps as it || makes you invulnerable. Phase Shift || will also help as it makes || everything go slower||

[steel folio]

Am I the only that finds ||Prometheus|| really tanky? He has seemingly more health than other bosses. Maybe my builds are just bad in ||Surface|| runs.

[vivid flare]

He has about 30K health, IIRC. The boss after him has 65K

[steel folio]

He just seems way more tanky than ||Cerberus|| and the other ||underworld|| bosses.

[vivid flare]

He's definitely the hardest boss of that route, if it's any consolation to you

[steel folio]

I didn't beat him once so far. Its good to know that the endboss on the ||surface|| path is not that hard though.

[manic moat]

Question about bonds: could anyone help provide guidance on forging a bond with ||Selene||? I know there is a bit of a hint in the codex, but would be grateful for, well, the answer… if I’m not being too greedy.

[royal pumice]

||Do a run with Selene's aspect and let her comment on it||

[manic moat]

Thanks very much!

[cold dust]

Personally it took me ||beating the underworld, and reequipping it on the surface but it may just need to be reequipping it period lol||

[shy zephyr]

||https://youtu.be/iDfSTMw9qsI?si=jsh_9bkcu_YbkPKx||

[cobalt rivet]

oh they updated!

[shy zephyr]

watch this youtube video, once you understand his moveset and ai it will become much easier

[eternal relic]

hey guys, i have some questions on the game:
||1 - is there a way to get entropy rn?
2 - do u guys have a build that works best for defeating typhon? ive already beaten cronos a hundred times but i just can't beat him... i've gotten to the 4th phase several times but always die
3 - is there a way to awake hypnos yet? i've made the potion twice already (just say yes or no pls)
4 - do i need to do something in particular to find the moiras? i'm already on 32 hours of gameplay and still found nothing||

[rocky charm]

2: when defeating thou who shant be named just memorize the attack patterns

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-player-rain-bullet-hell-avoid-gif-25730203

[green acorn]

|| 2. Yes, personally I found if you build around a strong cast and a long range weapon, it helps a lot. Like if you have the Hephaestus cast where it does the hammer thing 3 times, then you dash away to avoid attacks, then dash toward them and re-cast, etc. you can build a good damage pattern. And like the above... memorize the attack patterns. It's a difficult climb (pun intended) but victory is sweet. ||

[scenic arrow]

no
yes
no
no

for the yes: ||My personal favorite is using Medea Skull with Zeus Special and Ares Attack. For Typhon, you generally want to stick to him like glue, only moving away for attacks like Tornadoes or Chin Slam.||

[pine night]

So for ||finding the fates|| will that be available on full release or can it be done in early access

[shy zephyr]

full release

[eternal relic]

thank you guys

[steel folio]

I am now managing to get ||summit|| often but now I die a lot to the ||minibosses|| there. It fells kind of like a little ||bossrush||.

[primal trench]

There's only so many chambers

[steel folio]

Am I the only one that never gets the ||axe|| for graves thirst? I only get all the other weapons even though i never use the ||axe||. I use the weapon with graves thirst every time.

[shy zephyr]

it's completely random, 1/6 chance for every weapon

[steel folio]

I guess I just get really unlucky then. Also am I the only that thinks the ||surface area|| is way harder than anything in the ||underworld ||after ||epypheria||? Especially ||mount olympus|| is just really hard with|| automatons and monsters|| only focussing you. Then there is ||Prometheus|| as a boss aswell. I find him harder than cronos.

[shy zephyr]

yes ||surface|| was designed to be much harder

[random meteor]

wow. that helps. a lot

[tall plover]

||Prometheus|| is the hardest boss in the game ||until you start pushing Fear.|| Don't sweat him beating you too much, he's pretty overtuned.

[frozen ember]

Might wanna spoiler that boss name.

[steel folio]

Can you have a relationship with more than one love interest? I have the choice to go into a relationship with ||Moros|| right now but if there is not the possibility for multiple relationships I would rather take ||Icarus|| who is obviously a choice for a relationship.

[woeful vapor]

You can romance all 4 options at the same time with no consequences, don't worry

[steel folio]

Ok. Thanks

[lone wagon]

yeah, a lot of the dialogue exposes a lack of concern for monogamy among deities, which is honestly quite accurate for greek mythology. I specially enjoy how Odysseus and Icarus try to convey the idea of jealousy to Mel.

[wanton plover]

Hi quick question, haven't played the game yet since i'm contemplating in waiting for full release or not, but are the controls basically the same ?

[pallid moss]

For the most part I believe

[wanton plover]

how many hours do you think can i finish hades 2 in its current state?

[pallid moss]

Depends what you consider finished

[scenic arrow]

like 15-20 maybe? not really sure

[pallid moss]

There is still a ton of replayability

If you’ve played the original then you’ll get a ton out of hades 2

[wanton plover]

on its current state, does the game have a different dialogue/events/etc. if you beat the main boss?

[pallid moss]

Likely enough content to hold you over till the full release

I have about 200 hours and I’m still missing a good chunk of things

[wanton plover]

do you guys have any idea how the post game will work? like in hades 1, you had to beat the final boss many times before you can see the "true ending". You can just answer this "Yes or No" haha

[scenic arrow]

no

[pallid moss]

Nope

[pallid moss]

Will be in the next update I believe

[wanton plover]

cause i find it kinda hard to understand ( I know haha since i still didn't play the game) like i heard there's so i'm confused like do we have to beat them multiples times something like that haha

[pallid moss]

Spoilers

[wanton plover]

oh mb

[scenic arrow]

it's kinda hard for me to understand too lol. ||You will probably beat the main villain, maybe multiple times, before beating his big monster guy||

[wanton plover]

by missing a good chunk of things, what do you mean? like the story/dialogue?

is the story somewhat complete? just missing the ending?. like do we get a gist of what is happening

[pallid moss]

Yup

The ending is essentially the only thing missing

[wanton plover]

and even NPCs mention something if you beat the final boss right? like they are aware that you did that

[pallid moss]

Yup

[wanton plover]

or even previous bosses

that's good since what i loved about Hades 1 is the rich dialogue and story haha

[pallid moss]

A lot of dialogue about bosses (without getting into spoilers)

All of the dialogue will be infinitely better if you know the stories surrounding them

[wanton plover]

owki thankss, i still have a backlog of steam games (currently playing witcher 3 Blood & Wine). hopefully it releases before i finish them all haha

cause i cant stop thinking about this game cause hades is my fav game of all time

[pallid moss]

I’d probably suggest in the nicest way possible to try to avoid this server till you get to the game as it seems you’re already quite interested and the story is great. Try to avoid spoilers.

[steel folio]

I am just trying out ||aspect of artemis|| for the first time. 15 seconds seems a bit long for the ||parry|| to recharge.

[scenic arrow]

you're not wrong

[steel folio]

I would take a lower cooldown for a n||ot so high crit chance on the 9 strikes after the parry||.

[scenic arrow]

||artemis aspect is fun and satisfying but not that good, I think. I might even say that Mel Blades are better.||

[steel folio]

||Its fun. But the cooldown is too long for it to be usefull. A lot of fights can be over after 15 seconds if your build is good enough. And in bosses relying on the parry is not good either. Bosses can do a lot of damage in 15 Seconds.||

[scenic arrow]

I think a cooldown is reasonable, you're not meant to rely on it too much. It gives you this option you can think up on the fly instead, like "oh wait, I bet I can parry this next move"

[steel folio]

A cooldown is reasonable. It could just be a bit lower. Without cooldoown This would be way too strong.

[scenic arrow]

The cooldown is also reset every time you enter a room which is nice

[steel folio]

Yeah thats nice,

[plucky dagger]

guys can someonen tell me if we meet zagreus in this game yes or no - thats all i wanna know

[scenic arrow]

||no||

[worldly topaz]

||no but yes|| not really spoilers but ill do it anyway ||we dont meet him but we see him in a flashback getting rolled by chronos||

[umbral sand]

Question about ||Chaos||'s new design.
What happened LMAO will I know as I keep playing??

[scenic arrow]

yea

[plucky dagger]

WHATTTT

[vivid flare]

You see it in the equivalent of the "Zagreus finds a letter from Persephone" flashback in this game

[vivid flare]

They will bring it up at some point, yes

[supple heath]

whatever the first safe stripe is, think of that (top, middle, bottom). then when the sequence is showing you can think/say to yourself the direction you need to move or stay

[quartz sail]

They i just adjusting to genz

[quartz sail]

Fail and then fail better and keep on failing and then with a little bit of luck and coordination you’ll get it

[umbral crypt]

Wdym what happened?

[tough frigate]

they got drip 😎

[vivid flare]

Please look forward to it

[umbral crypt]

Is true
I love the new chaos look

[umbral sand]

I love the design yes, but the old design is now like, ||a cranium in the new design's hand||

[umbral crypt]

Maybe
I think they are looking at it
Contemplating it
Idk it much more encapsulates the whole they/them nature the old one was more masculine

[green gorge]

@grand swift regarding your most recent (now deleted) message in #h2-feedback
#h2-feedback is not meant for discussion of feedback posted there, if you wish to discuss feedback please do so either do so here (spoiler tagging any post erebus content) or #h2-discussion

[celest forge]

how do you upgrade aspects on weapons?

[worldly topaz]

when you find unlock aspects in general i'm fairly sure you just have the ability to innately do that

Mel aspects take specific resources, while all other aspects take nightmare(except for the initial unlock)

[celest forge]

right :o

[grand swift]

Please be more fair with the application with this rule there are multiple discussions sparked from people’s feedback, and its annoying my comment gets deleted when I thought I put out a well argued position…..

[primal trench]

discussion abotu feedback is allowed, just not in that channel

take it here or #h2-discussion

[grand swift]

I mean discussion taken place still in the feedback but whatever I ain’t trying to beef

[green gorge]

discussion shouldn't be taking place in #h2-feedback as sgg take a more structured approach to reading the feedback that is posted there

[grand swift]

Sure

[scenic arrow]

Somewhat unrelated, but I wonder how much feedback technically goes against the rules, just because of "Focus on your experience. It's not necessary need to propose solutions."

I think everyone proposes solutions lol (me included sometimes, oops)

[grand swift]

Oh I think it's good manners suggesting a fix when complaining about something or at least a substantial argument. If SG wants me to stop then i’m more then happy too 🤣

[scenic arrow]

wait that's a typo in the feedback rules, mods plz fix

[grand swift]

Yea I realized what I said made no sense

[worldly topaz]

honestly i hate not providing solutions and feedback basically just saying "||circe|| feels upderpowered :((( " just feels.... not constructive if i was to write something like that. Even if they don't like the solutions presented they could use it as abaseline to see how much i think it needs to change

[grand swift]

If they want me to scream “ sacrifice boons are bad and let us reroll hammers!!” more tho then I can do that fr 🤣

[scenic arrow]

I'd be surprised if they do hammer rerolls, it'd be probably too powerful

[primal trench]

i can see the argument of rerolling hammers, but wasnt a thing in h1, is a not a thing here. probably shows they dont want it

sacrifice boons tho they def have their place

[worldly topaz]

they changed their mind about seed rerolling all these years after h2 with the oath reroll, but i doubt they do implement it yeah

[green gorge]

phrasing it a "npc/boons from/hex x feels underpowered in y way" feels pretty constructive to me ^-^

[primal trench]

not rerolling hammers is the only thing keeping this game varied. the amount of freedom in this game is insane

[primal trench]

i def dropped a "dyonysus is bad" there at on point

[worldly topaz]

yeah i think its just a my brain thing where i feel like i need to bring a solution when complaining 😭

[grand swift]

I legit do not believe they will ever allow that. They would have to nerf it. And I am a “ give the player as much freedom as possible” kinda guy

[green gorge]

yeah, i get that wholeheartedly

[grand swift]

Sacrifice boons have a place, but having them offered over and over in biome 1 || especially for surface runs||kills effective build crafting to me. I hardly take them so I wouldn’t miss it, but I can see an argument keeping it in biome 3

[worldly topaz]

The only problem i have with sacrifice boons is that you should never be forced into them, give me my spare wealth pls thx

[primal trench]

i hardly ever have sac boons offered tho, you might just be getting the short end of the rng stick

[scenic arrow]

I feel like sacrifices are too rare lol, I hardly ever see them I think to make them relevant to me

[primal trench]

you almost never are tho

[edgy locust]

i only see sacrifice boons when i take the pool item that makes one appear

[worldly topaz]

Last run i was offered only hestia boons after i ran out of all of them on a non denial run, thankfully there was still a 3rd boon for me to take

[primal trench]

i have over 200 hrs, ive never been forced into a sac boon

[grand swift]

I am pretty unlucky. But sometimes I get offered multiple times per run 😭

[worldly topaz]

so i was offered attack + special + whatever the third one was since i lacked any scorch related boons to make those t2 appear

forced into 2 sacs, if that 3rd one didnt exist prob would've been offered cast upgrade

[grand swift]

It can happen in vow of denial quite a bit if you not careful

[primal trench]

Well you sign up for it once you grab that vow

[grand swift]

Oh I meant to reply to it bricking your build.

[primal trench]

You shouldn't grab denial if that's something you fear

That's like saying the timer killing you feels bad if you run tight deadline

[grand swift]

Well you can make that argument for everything bad in the game. “ you signed up for low damage numbers a lot of the time if you take reckless abandon”

[primal trench]

Yes

I took the increased hp vow and now enemies are tankier well yeah

[frozen ember]

yeah I have to agree vow of denial is like, something you actively turn on

[grand swift]

Ok what I mean is that if the argument is “ just don’t use the bad thing if you think it is bad” you have no basis for critism whatsoever

[scenic arrow]

(people said ||rivals|| were too fast at ||frenzy|| 2 and they got ||nerfed|| which is kinda ||funny||)

whoa spoilers

[grand swift]

Yee

[frozen ember]

||chronos and eris were both kind of unreasonable for different reasons tho||

[scenic arrow]

but yeah I agree

[primal trench]

One thing is tweaking numbers, another is just yes or no scenarios

Denial is in the second half

[green gorge]

smol friendly reminder anything post erebus is considered spoilers here

[grand swift]

You know what you got it gang

[frozen ember]

why are we talking about fear here

[primal trench]

Came up

[worldly topaz]

there are regions post erebus? spoilers 😠 im still playing the technical test from april 2024/ s

[frozen ember]

s'why I didn't realise it was the no-spoiler channel at first

[grand swift]

Mb 🤣

[green gorge]

oops, sorry mb erebus is definitely totally the only region /lhj

[primal trench]

obvs, the crossroads, right after you die in erebus

[grand swift]

Crazy that the final boss is spawn camping at the end of erebus

[primal trench]

short ah game, def not worth full price smh my head

[grand swift]

0/10 game I want my money back John Supergiant 😭

[scenic arrow]

wait this means if anyone asks "what's in the game" we should just say "Erebus and one boss"

[shy zephyr]

lure them into the discussion channel then drop mega spoilers

[worldly topaz]

and only 4 weapons since they all are unlocked by moonstone

[vital summit]

Playing this while waiting for full game to come out :v
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gxssZLtaoWJ7CSkQHiF5fysE_tC435DI/view?usp=drive_link

[scenic arrow]

I would be careful when clicking random links on the internet

[primal trench]

Nice ip grabber, random person on the internet

[scenic arrow]

is that what it is lol

[cold dust]

Well that's lovely

[vital summit]

what?

Oh, you think I actually care about stealing your data mb

Yeah I just dont have nitro so I link vids with drive

Its just a video of Dead as Disco lmao

Oh I also dont even have image perms XD

[crimson pagoda]

sure bestie that makes way more sense than saying "playing dead as disco while waiting for full game to come out"

[vital summit]

Look man, if you're really that paranoid, you dont gotta click on the video

[crimson pagoda]

im not gonna cause i know internet safety but there are kids on here and stuff, cmon pls lets not post random google drive links

[vital summit]

Even if I did say that though, not like you would believe me

also, you cant take someones ip from a drive link

are you googling it?

[crimson pagoda]

its not a good habit to encourage people to do even if you're completely chill

no, i dont care that much bestie

[vital summit]

Im not encouraging anyone to do anything lol

Im just saying thats not what that is, calm down fella

If I was allowed embed, but alas

must send another 100000 messages lol

[crimson pagoda]

just post a youtube link

[vital summit]

eh... it has copyrighted music, but I'll try

Here https://youtu.be/uRD80s-QSM0

Would it have been funny if I just linked a rickroll then

[primal trench]

Ok based, i saw an insta reel of a dude going full batman arkham with barbie girl playing in the background and that was peak gaming

[vital summit]

That punch finisher for Flicker (The first song) hit so hard for me that I actually popped off xD

I dropped my controller

[primal trench]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKL5tdSRGcQ/?igsh=d3g3OWkyeDlwdXU=

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[vital summit]

LMAO even he did it!!

at 0:23

That finisher just flows SO GOOD I love it

[celest forge]

how do I unlock the hidden aspects for my weapons?

[scenic arrow]

||Have at least one aspect at level 5. Have all 3 aspects unlocked. Talk to the npc(the name of the second aspect of the weapon)||

[celest forge]

ohhh I need to have all 3 aspects... damn ^^"7

[celest forge]

is there a way to switch the appearance of the weapons? They are stuck on the last one I upgraded

[scenic arrow]

interact with it again to choose

[celest forge]

it doesnt seem to let me ^^"7

interact with the silver pool or the weapon?

[scenic arrow]

weapon

[celest forge]

ohhh right thanks

[echo acorn]

peeps I'm sorry to break it to y'all so harshly but...
that's entirely not how Google Drive works

[crimson pagoda]

not for actual google drive links lol and i do believe that guy is fine but people absolutely do redirects with them

and it's like absolutely the most suspicious way to share a video on a public discord server

[weary tartan]

my question is why not youtube link

[grand swift]

Your EH discussion is exactly the one that i have a couple days ago, I'm going insane 😭

[echo acorn]

If I had to guess, probably cus it takes 3x as long to upload there

[scenic arrow]

oh well

[desert sigil]

vincible

[scenic arrow]

your son is?

[umbral sand]

Are we getting steam achievements on v1.0?

[shy zephyr]

most likely, in the first game if you had already done the requirements for any of them in early access they'd unlock instantly too

[umbral sand]

Oh that's nice

Hoping to 100% it soon

[worldly topaz]

specifically ones that aren't repeatable

they have said you'll need to do some stuff again long as it isn't 1 time only, eg statues

[tranquil stump]

Nobody tel Melinoe what Medea did to her children

[green needle]

I forgot she did that

[scenic arrow]

hey spoilers

[steel folio]

Is there a speedrunning discord? I would be interested in trying speedruns out.

[worldly topaz]

^

[desert sigil]

HUH

[tender tree]

so I just beat that guy in the surface, not knowing what was right passed him. wtf was that? lmao

[vivid flare]

If you need to use spoiler tags (because there's two very distinct "WTF" moments on that path), ||you do this||

[plucky dagger]

||test||

[plucky dagger]

||how many times do i have to beat typhopn to see those moments||

this is a question btw

[worldly topaz]

To see what moments? If you are talking about post final boss stuff, there is nothing.

Thats 1.0 content and there will be nothing there until later this year(presumably)

[plucky dagger]

You said there are wtf moments

[worldly topaz]

The person who wrote the original content did not specify what guy he was talking about. WTF moments can refer to anything such as ||Typhon reviving, Chronos helping out typhon during rivals instead of zeus, Mel transforming into a child again, Heracles betraying us and working with prometheus etc||

But there is nothing specifically post ||Typhon|| and never will be until 1.0

[plucky dagger]

Lmfao i did not know any of these😭😭😭

[worldly topaz]

Then just keep playing and turn on ||rivals||

[vast oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-war-helmet-shark-meme-gif-8983249853261281087

[worldly topaz]

i guess technically that word is a spoiler upon rereading, mb

[vast oasis]

Gif was about the game it’s from

[fading dune]

https://tenor.com/view/dissolve-gif-18144671279500427383

My sand

[vivid flare]

It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere. Supergiant's just vacuuming up :3

[scenic arrow]

spoilers

[umbral crypt]

But what about my stash of 20000 ||eyeballs||

[primal trench]

Eat them

[vivid flare]

Also getting yoinked in the spring cleaning

[umbral crypt]

):<

[severe marsh]

Better be worth a (hades) of a lot of prestige

[ancient bluff]

Question about the Charon delivery chest and the purchase gold: just like gold within a run, do you only have the gold purchases from the previous run?

[worldly topaz]

Elaborate on what you mean?

If you are talking about the ||Charon coupons|| or whatever they are called in the crossroads, then no those are a permanent resource you can spend at any time at the crossroads

EG you can spend 3 on fated fabric now or save up for 5 for a bigger item later

[ancient bluff]

Yeah thank you, that is exactly what I'm talking about. Also, I realize I'm posting this in a no spoilers channel. Apologies
Won't happen again. Where is the best channel for mechanics, #h2-discussion ?

[worldly topaz]

generally speaking yeah

Or builds if its more along that line

[still knot]

Hello! Sorry if this has been answered before -

Is there any reason to buy the early access if I have no intention of playing before 1.0 launches? Any goodies or bonuses, or is the price going to be lower?

[worldly topaz]

There are no EA pre order bonuses/incentives that have been announced, and are unlikely to be added anyway.

Its possible the price increases according to the FAQ, but it hasn't yet or been announced. It might even go on sale for like the last few major updates have done.

[frosty python]

^^ this is all totally accurate!! i have 600 hours in the game so the early access has provided just a bit of content you could say

[shy wadi]

Yeah, this is insane. I never imagined I would clock in 300 hours for a game that hasn't even been released yet. Best buy ever.

[tall kernel]

H2 can’t come to consoles quick enough.

[tall kernel]

I’m trying to figure out why I still like hades 1 after 580 hours. Glad to hear hades 2 is similar.

[scenic arrow]

Hi

[shy wadi]

If you have yet to play H2 the best I can say is that it is surprising how they managed to make a game so different from the first while literally making the same game.

[wary night]

it feels VERY similar to me, in that way. I have more hours on hades 2 than hades 1 at this point, which really surprises me tbh since I replayed the first game so often.
ik for some people it can be weird to get used to at first since some aspects of the gameplay feel different (sprinting vs double dashes, magick usage, lower base health), but once you get used to them they feel great imo. I find it hard to go back to hades 1 movement now...

[tall kernel]

I watched a run by Halean and I’m happy to say I have no idea what was going on. There will be so many new weapons and boons and interactions to learn. I think I understand a little what my wife says when she watches me play hades 1, that she can’t track what’s going on.

[shy wadi]

Hahahahahahahaha! Ofc there's a lot going on!:) from outside I guess it feels like a lot of visual noise!😅

[distant cobalt]

Oh it's unique for sure but a surprising amount that carries over

Id say like 40% of the mechanics are familiar if you played Hades 1

The chaos portals/charons shop & well/keepsakes are all almost identical between the two games

[cunning wren]

I can't be the only one who thinks the apollo/zeus duo boon is like incredibly bad

[tacit sphinx]

It is incredibly bad

[sly pumice]

What is their duo

[cunning wren]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/425494130626396167/1400028525821562880/image.png?ex=688b25ab&is=6889d42b&hm=cb0beb2696f83191f4cd3194741187f8f643783eb1a8e0af8394caa43538aead&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1378&height=363

[vivid flare]

The overcharged Prominence Flare

[sly pumice]

I thought that had Demeter in it for some reason lol

[vivid flare]

Which I've wanted to see changed to dodge/daze proccing revenge boons for a while now

[vivid flare]

Nah, you're crossing wires with Hostile Environment

[sly pumice]

What did that do again

[vivid flare]

OCast follows you and does more damage

[sly pumice]

Since when is that a duo 😭 that's what local climate used to do

[vivid flare]

That's the Dem/||Ares|| duo

Local Climate doesn't have the cast stay attached to you, just bonus damage that's doubled while you're in the ring

[sly pumice]

But it used to before ||Ares|| was a thing

[viscid nimbus]

I have this game and i don't remember paying for it

[shy zephyr]

maybe someone is family sharing with you

and even if not, you'll be glad you paid for it 🤑

[vivid flare]

Were you gifted it?

[viscid nimbus]

is there a way to check?

[vast oasis]

Get to the screen in library where it says “play” and has the game banner and all

Then scroll down and see where it says you added it to your library

[glass moon]

Haven’t played in around a year, but I was curious. Has the ||swamp door|| place to the bottom left of spawn been unlocked and is it usable yet?

[fierce bobcat]

yes it is unlocked (you might need an incantation to unlock it, i dont fully remember) and yes it is usable

[vivid flare]

You do need an incantation for it

[glass moon]

The one above the unlockable common room ||lounge||?

[worldly topaz]

Yes

Its a ||fishing pier|| and requires a bunch of ||driftwood||

Its been in the game since launch

[glass moon]

Alrighty, thx y’all for the info, can’t wait for full release to finally get back into it!

[tall kernel]

so, no hades news in nintendo direct?

[vivid flare]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-no-silksong-news-nintendo-direct-kasuga-ichiban-gif-5656720085740977492

(This but Hades 2)

[weary tartan]

i mean the odds were not high in the first place lol

[tall kernel]

i'm dying to play on console 😭

[desert totem]

i haven't looked at any of the early access and release seems right around the corner - just crushing Hades I to distract myself 😅

[scenic arrow]

normal console or switch?

normal console is probably mid or late 2026 if I had to guess

For reference, here was the Hades 1 timeline:
June 23, 2020 - Patch 44, Blood Price, last named major update of early access
July 2, 2020 - Patch 47, last patch of early access
August 18, 2020 - Hades 1.0 trailer drops
September 17, 2020 - 1.0 release for Switch and PC
August 13, 2021 - Hades releases on PS/Xbox

[tall kernel]

Switch

Are we at “last patch of early access?”

[worldly topaz]

Last major patch yes

[tall kernel]

“Heavy excited breathing and hand rubbing”

[vast oasis]

Damn h1 got a lot more patches

[scenic arrow]

Hades 2 is a lot bigger so I won't be too mad if it's like, late 2025 release or even early 2026

[vast oasis]

or were they just spread out

[scenic arrow]

yeah Hades 1 went through a lot more trial and error

They had 11 named updates, while Hades 2 only received 3 (Olympic, Warsong, Unseen)

[worldly topaz]

hades 1 development was a lot more like hades 2 initial EA release

with several balance/gameplay updates between the majors

[scenic arrow]

yeah

[worldly topaz]

but they seemed to step away from that for some reason after patch 3 of hades 2

which.... IMO was for the worse of the development but can't really say one way or another objectively cause.... thats a different timeline

[scenic arrow]

idk

Hades 2 is probably better balanced than 1 was? As for why that is, not sure

[worldly topaz]

most likely because they shipped hades 2 in EA when its development was like a year post when hades 1 would've already released timeline wise

[scenic arrow]

You could say it's because they're more experienced, or because they have more feedback to process, or because their process is giving them more time to cook

Hades 1 had 2/4 zones at EA launch, right?

and 4/6 weapons

[worldly topaz]

2/4 and i believe 3/6 weapons

might've been 4 now that i think about it cause it went rail > fists

despite that being the opposite its unlocked ingame

[scenic arrow]

nah it already had Sword, Shield, Bow, Spear

Hades boss was added at patch 25/48, a whole year before release

[split silo]

hey guys! not sure if this should go in here or #h1-discussion

at what point would you guys say i’m good to switch to hades 2? Every friend of mine says 2 is a much better more fun game and i can’t wait to start. I’ve got the 10 escapes ending in 1 and have had my fun with almost all aspects already

[weary tartan]

honestly whenever you feel like you want to play the second game :) h1 100% completion knowledge is not needed at all for the enjoyment of h2, you don't even have to know h1 at all!

[crimson pagoda]

whenever you want to! Just obvs know it's still in EA so doesn't have an ending yet

[desert totem]

i'm waiting for full release, and having fun with hades just to tide me over 😇

[split silo]

thank you all for your responses!

And yes i’ve been told it has no ending yet, but the praise im hearing about the flow of gameplay on it is making me itch to play it!

I’ve really enjoyed h1 so i imagine i would love h2 even more

[crimson pagoda]

Then yeah I say get it! It's unlikely to go down in price at launch, the most you can realistically hope for is that it stays the same as EA for a while, and definitely I think it's well worth playing now

[split silo]

h1 was my first SG and i loved it, i would gladly pay the price as is for 2, they wholeheartedly deserve it

[crimson pagoda]

they definitely do! i just mean if you're not fussed about buying/playing it in EA, I'd do it

[split silo]

sounds good, thank you!

[versed spruce]

The only thing I’d like to say about Hades 1 to Hades 2 or 1 vs 2, is that Hades 2 is very much not a hack & slash game. Cast is super important now, and the magic system / the enemy design I’d argue requires more methodical and planning to avoid damage than just face tanking with shield / sword, etc.

Though there are some weapons where you can still play it like that.

[split silo]

ah, that’s a point i was not aware of

i was very much a fan of the hack and slash nature of H1, but it never hurts to try something new, i have trust in SGG besides all the good things i’ve heard about it

[frigid elk]

It's just a galaxy brain hack & slash, in that you need to keep your strategy mind to pay attention. There are several builds that give you permission to get mostly head empty tho

[split silo]

i like it when build goes brrrr, most of the aspects allow you to do that in h1

[vast oasis]

Depends if you want the true ending or not(takes a while and it’s not a huge amount of reward but it’s cool to see)

[split silo]

i actually was told of the existence of the true ending, searched the requirments for it and decided to just watch it on youtube

becuase i knew if i tried working towards it, it would suck out some of the fun of the game for me due to me having to || heavily focus on getting and buying nectar||

[vast oasis]

I mean if that’s the point of the game you’re at it’s totally good to move on to hades 2

Unless you want to keep holding out for 1.0 but that could be several months

[split silo]

i've been watching a lot of h1 content since i got into the game, and realized that it would be kinda fun to be a part of EA and see how the game changes. So i think i'll be pulling the trigger

[vast oasis]

Go for it dude

Enjoy

[wary night]

my main advice if you're transitioning from hades 1 brain is:
get used to sprint (as opposed to just dash)
get used to the new cast (as a defensive and offensive tool!)
once I got used to both I was pretty addicted and found it hard to go back to h1 movement tbh, but they were a learning curve, especially since cast in h1 only starts feeling particularly useful (imo) if you actively invest in it or get some mirror upgrades, whereas in h2 it's very useful at baseline when you're starting out, imo
have fun!!

[split silo]

thank you for all the tips!

[halcyon smelt]

hades. the second

[swift harness]

I see Hades 1 and 2 as one entity. One big epic video game.

[frozen ember]

I mean it's still a hack and slash game it's just not a dash spam game.

[tall plover]

I'm no Diablo afficianado, but I know some dudes who were running some stuff in D2R that absolutely was more slow-paced and methodical.

[split silo]

having now 3(?) hours of playtime in H2, i can definitely see that

also, does the dash have i-frames anymore? maybe they’re reduced?

regardless, i’m definitely getting my ass beat

[frozen ember]

It does, but dash-strike no longer destroys projectiles (but still removes your iframes), which is the most common cause of people saying that-

[split silo]

that might be the reason, there are much less projectiles compared to h1, but damn is it hard to adjust muscle memory to the fact that you can’t delete projectiles with your attacks

[steel fern]

Do one of my favorite part of hades 1 was getting weapon aspects from other mythos across time
Can’t wait to see what kind of aspects are avalibke here on that front

[shy zephyr]

oh you'll be eating good 🔥 💯

[vivid flare]

Please look forward to it

[vast oasis]

Got it at the perfect time then

[hollow mirage]

One question guys
If i play hades 2 today will i need to create a new save once 1.0 drops ?

[vivid flare]

Save data will carry over to 1.0