h2-for-new-players

[cloud hatch]

Does the god pool fill up at 3 this time?

[naive stump]

Iirc yeah

[cloud hatch]

Nicee

[iron torrent]

Further rotating among weapons and the axe has climbed the ranks to a potential favorite. I just haven't gotten the hang of the special. Almost never in the right direction and when I do manage it, I'm not really sure how much it does or what its limitations are

[primal trench]

Special is more on the charon one

[worldly pulsar]

||https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1164101586138710037/1242188723454611587/Hades_II_2024-05-19_18-03-58.mp4?ex=664cede6&is=664b9c66&hm=197a798df3d498ce96b302db29fe9557c3c88b310a6101c8053faa519c70d0a5&||
Press/hold attack during the omega animation and you can redirect it

Probably should post in #h2-feedback . I think you can get around the pause thing by pressing f10 to bring up the bug report screen or alt tabbing

Also should spoiler

[slow forge]

Oh woops my bad thought I was there haha

[iron torrent]

Attack? It seems like you can redirect just with directional or dash to move yourself.

[primal trench]

@midnight herald the single reward for miniboss is guaranteed to be upgraded

I value quality over quantity myself

[worldly pulsar]

If you just dash then itll fire in the direction of your dash

[iron torrent]

I see, interesting! Not sure how often I could manage that. Very awkward with how I use a controller I guess

[worldly pulsar]

Yeah i have stuff rebound

[iron torrent]

I've been thinking about swapping the special and whatever they call the circle

[primal trench]

Cast

[edgy flower]

lmao off topic but i just realized "i am gonna claw out your eyes..." is on spotify

[gloomy skiff]

when catching a fish and it says 'hooked' how do I move the target?

[past leaf]

lets gooo

[past leaf]

nah u wait for the fish to swim in then click

[gloomy skiff]

ahhh ty

[naive stump]

Start praying

I've lost like 5 fish cuz of that minigame

[worldly pulsar]

When it just decides to graze the circle instead of entering it

[primal trench]

The whole soundtrack is, no?

Darren added them, just as singles

[edgy flower]

yup

[distant dust]

we love Darren

mods, send this message to Darren (Im too scared to @)

[elder bough]

@surreal dune #h2-feedback message what is a cured run

[worldly pulsar]

Like after they got the incant to not die

[elder bough]

Oh

[surreal dune]

Correct

[primal trench]

Incant to not die?

[past leaf]

spoiler for the the other run start gate ||you take constant ramping damage per second on the surface until you get the story based unlock to go there properly||

[primal trench]

Oh that

[sterile juniper]

I have a question about current early access scope (which is already huge, obviously). I would appreciate if someone could give me a non-spoilery answer.

Is there any game / story progression (in the current early access) locked beyond ||Power to Pause and Reflect||, or is it a minor QOL thing for the specific fight? I only have that and ||Dissolution of Time|| left uncooked, and I want to understand how important is to grind ||3 more Z-sand|| for the former.

[covert minnow]

i don't have an answer beyond suspicion, but i would guess that you will need ||at least 10 Z-sand to permanently defeat chronos eventually since that's about the number of times it took to defeat Hades|| so if you want to do that in advance you could do that. But i doubt it would extend much beyond what is currently out for now. At least not until later in the year when the new maps get added

[sterile juniper]

Thanks! But I am not asking about ||Dissolution of Time|| - we cannot even get any ||Enthropy|| yet (or can we?), and that is normal given we are at the stage of early access.

I was asking about ||Power to Pause and Reflect|| specifically.

[covert minnow]

yeah I answered poorly, apologies. I meant: you could grind for that, and I doubt there will be much more. But if you wanted to continue to get the rest of what you can get now for ||dissolution of time|| then that's probably the best we'll get for now. But again, I don't know for sure. :x

[cyan citrus]

hey so can i safely ||sell the fish i get or are there recipes that require it?||

[faint pulsar]

||so far (about 40 ish hours) I have not found a single recipe or upgrade that requires any fish, maybe in the full game but nothing now||

[cyan citrus]

thank you so much <3

[primal trench]

so far, only for selling

[primal trench]

@pliant laurel #h2-feedback message I have done it

[naive stump]

Tell us ur secret

[hybrid notch]

is this game gonna be like a sequel but set a few (hundred) years after the first game

[ripe owl]

it is a sequel, it is unclear how long has passed since the first game

[primal trench]

idk, guess is just inconsistent

[sand void]

probably a collision bug, that would be my guess

[elder bough]

Pots do have collision issues, see here

#h2-feedback message

@sturdy anvil #h2-feedback message you can’t water the pool with dash and sprint because each god only carries one or the other

And Apollo and sprints are both great

Heph can be too when pommed, Zeus is generally just bad cause Poseidon is way more cost effective

Demeter sprint slows projectiles really well so it’s great vs ||eris||

Sprinting itself helps vs ||scylla||, vs ||chronos||, vs ||cerberus||, vs ||eris||…

[solar drum]

||Entropy is likely to be the reward for beating the final surface boss I would assume ||

||Power to pause and reflect is handy if you are likely to have distractions during his fight (my wife seems to pick the worst times to chat to me and my kids are even worse than that for timing haha, but outside of a few funny voice lines, there’s been nothing specific linked to it ||

[elder bough]

Oh and you totally can sprint through the ||drummer circles|| they aren’t constantly out

[sturdy anvil]

It's interesting that the each god offers one or the other, I supposed you can still get a dash boon, and a sprint boon? If not than it wouldn't water it down, if yes than it's still two separate boons for mobility powers. I've had some success with sprint boons. Sprinting isn't bad in theory. I'm giving my feedback that it feels bad to me as a returning player and it feels like a lot of scenarios weren't specifically designed with the sprint in mind. I don't think they should necessarily throw out the sprint entirely in favor of multiple dashes, just what my feel is a someone coming to the game from the original, which I'm assuming most people will be.

[elder bough]

No you can’t

It still doesn’t water anything down you aren’t being offered more boons than before for that main slot. Also the dash boons are usually pretty bad compared to sprint boons

Poseidon sprint literally got me mostly through ||chronos|| completely by itself

[tired pasture]

HOW DID I NOT REALISE THAT ||SISYPHUS'S BOULDER|| IS IN THE ROOM WITH HADES!?

[sly pumice]

I only realised when the dialogue pointed it out

[tired pasture]

ye thats what i mean

i was just thinking about him not being in the game lmao

thats such a cool detail, i love supergiant

[elder bough]

@mortal shuttle #h2-feedback message power is an addition to the base damage

First thing to change, before any other calculations are done.

If you have a % on top of that it counts after you take power into account

[mild sail]

i figured it was that room but i didnt see it!!!! omg

[vagrant finch]

I find it funny the amount of people confused about it when it literally tells you in game lol

It’s more clear in this game than the first one imo

[mortal shuttle]

Okay then the Hestia infusion that gives you +2 power per fire element feels way underpowered

I think having a different word for it that's not just "base damage" is what's making it confusing for folks

[raven parrot]

anyone stopped playing?

[hollow lantern]

I've taken a small break cause the game keeps corrupting on me

[elder bough]

Yeah lol

Read helper text guys!

[solar drum]

I’m getting close to taking a break, but not because I’m unhappy with the game, just trying not to burn myself out too hard.

[gloomy ocean]

I’m only on a break because I don’t play games on my computer that often

But theoretically I’m still in the thick of it

[solar drum]

I’ve only got two chaos challenges left to do and I’m currently pushing 16 fear for a chronos kill and then I’ll probably chill, but that’s still already 35+ hours to get to this point

I just don’t wanna have like nothing left to do before the next update

[gloomy ocean]

I haven’t beat chronos yet, but I did get to him on my first run where I met the second boss

Which is still wild to me that I made it all the way through the 3rd and 4th area’s on my first try

[solar drum]

Yeah that’s a great effort. Chronos isn’t too bad once you’ve got some practice and a decent build. Or you can just focus on Zeus + Apollo cast upgrades and he’s free as all heck

[gloomy ocean]

Is zeus actually good? I feel like his new effect is kind of bad

Or Is it like a hades 1 Persephone where the effect is weak but his damage is high?

[solar drum]

If you stack cast upgrades you get Apollo cast that does damage very quickly after your cast expires. Zeus can also drop lightning bolts during that cast and once you have both you can get the duo boon that lets you drop more mana into an omega cast and just activate the orbital space laser

[gloomy ocean]

I see

If Demeter has taught me anything duo boons involving lasers are strong

[solar drum]

Haha yeah, this is something else though, I had a build that was doing about 3.5k per omega cast

[magic musk]

guys how many weaponsa re there in the game? I just unlocked the original four and now the skull. Is there anything else?

[solar drum]

That’s it for now, but they have said they are adding one more

[magic musk]

ok

thanks

[solar drum]

||Plus there’s three aspects for each weapon (no hidden aspects….. yet)||

[magic musk]

ok

[naive stump]

Did you mean aphrodite or demeter with this

[gloomy ocean]

I meant Aphrodite, sorry I was distracted when I said that and said the wrong name

[golden fjord]

I'm also pretty underwhelmed with Zeus's boons (at least his attack/special). It really just feels like having to put in the extra effort for a delayed damage burst, in which case Heph's boons will always take preference (for me at least)

[gloomy ocean]

Hephaestus is the best

[naive stump]

Zeus's curse doesn't even work for origination if it's one of the 2 curses

[golden fjord]

All of my clears so far have been thanks to heph's blast + vent combo

[gloomy ocean]

So far he’s probably my favorite new character, though it’s not easily, and I haven’t progressed many stories much

[golden fjord]

If you haven't already, I'd report this in-game in their bug report. Zeus's thing should absolutely be considered a curse, and if it isnt I'd argue that's likely not-as-intended

[naive stump]

No I mean it is a curse for the status
But it doesn't buff the Blitz dmg cuz of the delay in activation, so you can't buff the dmg with it
(Should def feedback it tho lol)

[golden fjord]

Yeah! Heph is probably one of my favorite character designs. I'm obsessed with the black-figure pottery details added to him, and his wheelchair and his prosthetic

[gloomy ocean]

He’s great

[golden fjord]

And the fact that SG didn't go the 'ugliest god' route that a fair chunk of modern media depictions go with. I was so incredibly hyped when he showed up and I just spent a good 3 minutes looking at all the things they added to his design

(Ofc i grew up with the percy jackson series and always fancied myself a heph kid, so he's got a special place in my heart lol)

[gloomy ocean]

Anyway it feels to me like blitz was the worse of 2 attempts to recreate doom and honestly I would be happy if they changed what Zeus’s curse was all together

[golden fjord]

link to the heph sprite, spoiler for any who haven't met him yet and wanna wait to see him in game: || https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hades_gamepedia_en/images/2/28/Hephaestus_PH.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1200?cb=20240418154332 ||

[naive stump]

His aphro duo does feek like merciful end 2 (but sad) lmao

[gloomy ocean]

I need to finish the Disney plus show, never read the books and have been told not to watch the movies, but I should watch the show

[sterile condor]

the first movie isnt anything like the book but its a fun time

[golden fjord]

First movie is 'good' (it holds its own and was produced well) if you haven't read the books. Second movie is just sorta... mid? The acting is a little ick imo, but if you have no stake in the franchise then it's bearable.

Show is almost one-to-one with the books, but the show is taking different paths to reach the same goal and I personally enjoy the changes they're doing.

Def suggest reading the series. It's a lower reading level, very easy to follow, and it still holds up for me as I'm doing a second readthrough! (Last I read it was back in the early 2010s)

(Lower reading level as in... like, it hasn't got flowery speech or anything. It's written from the perspective of an... 11 year old? 13? very young kid, and it reads like it's a very young kid)

[sterile condor]

i read it recently and i still enjoy it. its an easy read but fun

[gloomy ocean]

I have one friend who won’t shut up about Percy Jackson and hated the movies, and the only other person in that friend group who has interacted much with the franchise grew up with the movies, it was fun when that first came up

[golden fjord]

l m a o
yeah. essentially, book fans despise the fact that the movie kinda just took the premise and discarded any/all of the charm and fun the books had

[gloomy ocean]

1: says something about Percy jackson
2: oh Percy jackson? I love those movies
1:

[golden fjord]

I 'hate' the movies from a book fan perspective, but I can appreciate that (at least movie one) is well done from a cinematographic point of view.

[gloomy ocean]

Anyway to get this back on subject

If you could change blitz to another effect what would you have Zeus do?

[tribal scaffold]

I would've gone with Chain Lightning, like the first game, but the fact that there's other Boons from him that essentially turn Blitz into Doom from Ares, it's not too bad.

Now, if it stacked like some of Ares Boons like Dire Misfortune, then I think it would be awesome.

[worldly pulsar]

Its even slower than impending doom with toasting fork i think

[gloomy ocean]

I think one idea i like would be to rip off ares other ability, basically attack or special sends with it a lightning cloud that strikes below it and functions similarly to a blade rift cast

[tribal scaffold]

Ooh, that sound cool. And like, 15 damage per bolt that strikes an enemy or something?

[solar drum]

Also there is chain lightning effects on Zeus boons too, but they have a shocking (heh) activation rate, it’s like 5% on a common level 1, unless you get the one that primes mana

[gloomy ocean]

Yeah, and then it also stacks with other lightning upgrades

[tribal scaffold]

What if they foregone the Vengeance idea from other Gods, and made it exclusively a Zeus thing? Enemies hit you, and you deal damage back to them, but it's only for the enemy that you most recently hit with your Attack or something?

[solar drum]

Nah can’t take vengeance off ||Hera|| at the minimum. ||Being spiteful is classically her thing||

[gloomy ocean]

Ehhhh, personally I don’t use vengeance much so that would just make Zeus even worse to me

[tribal scaffold]

Right

[gloomy ocean]

You should probably spoiler that name, that are a surprise

[solar drum]

Also vengeance always seemed so weird to me as a mechanic - in a game with such limited healing it feels very weird to opt into taking damage

[solar drum]

My bad

[gloomy ocean]

No problem, I don’t think anyone in this conversation didn’t know already, plus I’m not a mod

[tribal scaffold]

I think the point would be to make a niche build from healing effects like Descura's Omega Attack killing an enemy healing 2 health to you?

[solar drum]

Dedicating a chunk of abilities to a small niche is always gonna feel bad if they show up when you ain’t kitted out for that niche though

[tribal scaffold]

The issue is that Vengeance deals so little damage, and it requires you to take a hit.

That's also true, but if you get that niche, it's not too bad... unless you're in a boss, and there's no enemies to kill to heal yourself

[gloomy ocean]

Vengeance could probably do with a buff

[solar drum]

The one saving grace for vengeance is getting Healthy Rebound on Aphrodite. If you get that at high rarity and levels you can push it down to something ludicrous like 35% hp activation

[tribal scaffold]

Can Vengeance deal Critical damage?

[solar drum]

I got that on a run and it was the freest thing ever, I got up to like 300 hp and no matter how iffy I played I could just heal for like 180+ hp after a room

[gloomy ocean]

I imagine it can when all damage you do can

[tribal scaffold]

If so, you could make a build from the Artemis Keepsake for it

[gloomy ocean]

Man the more I think about it the more I want this to be real

[lavish zenith]

Hey Guys, I'm new to Hades 2, loving it so far

[gloomy ocean]

It’s great

[tribal scaffold]

One thing I like in video games, is when something other than Attack is used as a Damage calculation. Like a Speed stat or something.
I was wondering if there was a Haphestus Boon that dealt damage based on your armor.

[tribal scaffold]

Nice. How far have you gotten?

[lavish zenith]

Just beat the first mini boss

[gloomy ocean]

If there’s not they should definitely add one

[lavish zenith]

The characters and voice acting are great

[tribal scaffold]

ikr?

[gloomy ocean]

Oh boy you haven’t seen nothing yet, some of my favorite characters are later, wait till you get to area 2 friend

Who sadly doesn’t have a character design yet

[tribal scaffold]

The Area Comrades are amazing

I personally like the one in Erebus.

[lavish zenith]

Wow really excited to see how it goes 💗

[gloomy ocean]

They’re great too

Can we all agree that one of the funniest moments in the game is when you first encounter one of the area 2 mini bosses?

[tribal scaffold]

Yes, definitely

I died within 3 seconds because I couldn't stop laughing

[gloomy ocean]

That is… completely fair

I had the foresight to pause

[tribal scaffold]

To be fair, I was using the Keepsake that increases the damage taken and recieved

[gloomy ocean]

Oooof

[tribal scaffold]

You don't need Defense if you don't get hit.

[gloomy ocean]

But the fact that you died so quickly probably made it funnier

[tribal scaffold]

Yes, I had to leave the game because I knew I wasn't going to be making any more progress for a little while after that.

[gloomy ocean]

Anyway I gotta get going, but nice talking to yall

[solar drum]

||Try pausing on the final boss next time you get there ||

[gloomy ocean]

Oh boy

[mint rune]

hiii! not sure if this question's allowed here, but i'm scared to go in the other channels & ask there incase i get proper spoiled. could anyone perhaps tell me if there's a way to see how many gifts you've given someone? i ||aqquired the book|| but i can't seem to find that specific detail as of yet.

[naive stump]

is an incantation (for whatever reason)

[mint rune]

OH sweet. totally didn't think to check that, thanks!

[naive stump]

idk what unlocks it tho, so it may take a while

[mint rune]

no that's fine! means i'm not overlooking something 'cause i kept double-checking

[zenith torrent]

@static axle well, she’s mot necessary blocked with those boons, but it does take longer to use but does it reset per room? Also you can still use the hex with zeus’ regen boon, it just needs to refill a bit first (not to mention the arcana that has the hex fill up naturally)

The things is the devs clearly want us using as much magic as possible

[naive stump]

@lucid geyser #h2-feedback message bugs should be reported with f10 btw (or in tech-support if you can't use it)

[static axle]

Yeah it resets every room, and yeah I don't hate magic but a lot of playstyles don't use it as much, and that's what causes problems with Selene.

[lucid geyser]

Whoops my bad

[sharp girder]

I tried this and I initially thought it was a one time thing but I kept doing it lol, i was dying laughing

[wide abyss]

when is hades 2 releasing on ps5?

[arctic monolith]

maybe when early access is over?

[sand void]

no earlier than next year, most likely

[wide abyss]

ahhhh okay

also do you guys know which ost plays when ||artemis helps you out on some encounters|| i really like that ost

[sand void]

that would be ||The Silver Sisters|| 🙂

[wide abyss]

thaks man! :D

[tiny olive]

Will there be new/ more songs/ changes in music or is this already the final soundtrack? (Don't get me wrong, I LOVE it, but I just wanted to know whether there'll be more 🤔.)

[sand void]

if it's anything like Hades 1, there will be more songs added when the final album comes around

[tiny olive]

Ahh, thank you!
I really hope so 🙏
The soundtrack of Hades 1 is so so beautiful and what I heard from Hades 2 is wonderful as well.

I just wish they would also consider making an artbook, the artwork is so pretty, too.

[willow oar]

Im just hoping for more ||scylla|| songs

[sand void]

https://tenor.com/view/gg-gif-27092095

[swift harness]

Maybe ||extreme measures Scylla||.

[ripe owl]

||I'm hoping for a heavy metal version for extreme measures||

[swift harness]

||Aren´t the songs already metal? ||

[agile rivet]

I would throw my money at a Hades art book SO FAST

[tiny olive]

YES. ME TOO.
But maaaaaybe they make one after the release?

I mean... one can only hope. I know they want to focus on their games... but still. I'd support a Kickstarter or whatever.

[ripe owl]

needs more heavy

[sand lichen]

||I am gonna drown you to death and drown you to death and drown you to death and drown you to death and drown you to death and drown you to death (and claw your eyes out)||

[solar fractal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNYaw4EJpZo

trust me

[naive stump]

Alma what is this lmao

[solar fractal]

fresh new meme from 2013

[drowsy jackal]

This is like that moms spaghetti meme but Starbucks-flavored

[gloomy ocean]

I think it would be cool if ||there’s a different song for each featured artist||

[swift harness]

[elder bough]

@stark summit #h2-feedback message the time slow hex is not that bad, get the path and you'll end up with around 10% reduced damage while it's not ready

[gentle gale]

Now look. Back in Hades, ||Chaos had tact and didn't comment when I was a dummy and stepped on the rake of their curse (painted neon colours so i see it). I was not prepared for them to go "You did agree to this." in my head in H2 after I completely forgot about the curse and slapped myself in the face repeatedly. They sounded like a dissappointed parent, too 😭||

[frosty timber]

Hi I was wondering if there is a way to check who you have given nectar to mid run?

[molten spoke]

||Yes, but not immediately||

[frosty timber]

Thanks!

[white spruce]

oh good, I was wondering about that too lol

[woven sparrow]

Will need an incantation

[gloomy ocean]

You need to get the equivalent to the index that you had in hades 1 and then a bit after an incantation will unlock that let’s you see hearts

[scarlet surge]

oh ok no swearing

i mean the hearts ||also say when you can use twin lures and bath salts so it is more than it was in hades 1||

[tired rampart]

hi, I just joined and I wanted to ask, how worth it is to buy the game rn, I saw it is an early access

and is it a sequel or smt?

[lapis blade]

It is a sequel. If you haven't played the first one you might want to start there. I think it costs the same (less?) and is a full game, and chances are the things that drew you to Hades 2 mean the first game should also be appealing. I highly recommend Hades 1 to friends and colleagues.

[gloomy ocean]

And hades 1 has a lot of content so by the time your done with it I imagine 2 will be finished

[tired rampart]

yeah I still have some stuff to buy before 100%ing the first one

[elder bough]

I got 200 hours out of hades, the average enthusiast I imagine will reach around 50-100 easily

[lunar vector]

Yeah I've got 140~ hours and still have one achievement left (mind you I only just realised you can still leave exceeding your heat gauge so yeahhhh 💀 )

[swift harness]

I am not sure but I think Chaos commented on that in Hades 1, too. :p

Including giggles sometimes.

(you gotta stab yourself a lot to do that though)

[spare stump]

I have not completely finished the first hades but I did get the epilogue because I really wanted to

[gentle gale]

i remember the giggles but not a full line 😂😭

[somber frigate]

im genuinely curious
how did yall feel abt the ||infernal beast|| fight. like what was yalls reaction to that the first time around? bc it had me feeling like i was listening to meet the grahams for the first time again and idk how the devs managed to harness that feeling of dread in a fight

[gentle gale]

an oh OH GOD followed by the realization, then more dread, then sadness

Also question, does it matter for the story if I go ||up or down? I can go up now and the curse is cleared, but Im also getting closer and closer to kicking Chronos' head in, so i kind of want to take care of that first|| Looking for a yes/no

[empty roost]

As far as I can tell, no

[lunar vector]

"OH GOD NO" and then immense sadness, but afterwards I was happy : )

[sacred roost]

I was indeed invaded with dread and sadness when I first encountered them.|| I immediately realized who that was and I could not resist the urge to help them somehow. In fact, the need to rescue that poor beast motivated me better than any rage I could feel against Chronos. So much so, that IN THE FIRST TIME EVER that I encountered them, I ended up winning a boss fight first try, which is something that has never happened to me in Hades game. During that time, my mind was clear and free of any distractions, and only one feeling drove me: Save the dog. And, during that time, I felt like the music accompanied my emotions very fittingly, specially aiding to enhance my sense of pure sadness and loss.||

[solar drum]

Well|| up isn’t finished yet, so in that respect it doesn’t MUCH help the story because it’s only half a story, that being said there’s a bunch of reagents that you can only find on the surface that you need for incantations and it’s more content which is never bad ||

[primal trench]

even after finished, i doubt it will matter

[tiny elk]

to be fair ||the Best Boy boss fight is not all too difficult||

[solar drum]

It’s biggest challenge is that it’s a bit of a damage sponge if you don’t have a great build

[primal trench]

And that's not really a challenge outside of tight deadline

[gloomy ocean]

I never beat a boss first try in the first game but somehow got all the way to ||chronos on my first time encountering the sirens|| still not sure how that happened

[eager wraith]

Boss 3 is just very readable All the attacks are very clear and telegraphed

[ionic birch]

That's incredible. Here I was happy that I finally beat ||infernal beast|| after I don't know how many tries

[eager wraith]

Took me a good couple tries too

[gloomy ocean]

To be clear I’ve died to them several times since then

[ionic birch]

Yeah

[gloomy ocean]

I think I just had a really good kit on that first one

[ionic birch]

I almost made it to the 4th, but chose a miniboss encounter and died there.

[ionic birch]

Which weapon?

[gloomy ocean]

It was actually my first run with weapon 3

[ionic sage]

Same on my first run where I made it to the 4th area, the fated list icon was too tempting

[ionic birch]

Oh nice. I am an ||avid battle axe enjoyer|| myself

[gloomy ocean]

No the other one

[ionic birch]

Oh

[gloomy ocean]

That’s 4

[ionic birch]

My bad.

[gloomy ocean]

My first run with the ||battle axe|| I died to ||cyclops||

[ionic birch]

Ah, I hate that boss

Banger theme though

[gloomy ocean]

True

[gloomy ocean]

This was referring to the ||double wands, I just couldn’t remember their name||

[ionic birch]

I unlocked them the last, tried it, and died before even reaching the first boss lmao. Never tried again.

[gloomy ocean]

Give another try, I recommend them

[ionic birch]

Will do! Probably once I clear the 4th boss. Gonna take a loooong time though.

[dawn siren]

After playing some 20 hours I can see why the game is in early access

I love it but its definitely not finished

[gloomy ocean]

I hope we can get a certain few character designs soon

[mortal shuttle]

Yes and also I kind of love the sketch art

[naive stump]

@scarlet seal #h2-feedback message that was a change done on purpose ( #hades2-patch-notes )

[scarlet seal]

i thought it was some kind of glitch that is why i reported it

thank you

[naive stump]

Fwiw bugs should be reported with f10 in game

[agile rivet]

does anyone know what the f10 equivalent is on Steamdeck? That is how I'm playing

[gloomy ocean]

It was unbound on my controller, but you can bind it in the controls menu

So basically just find a button you aren’t using and put it there

[agile rivet]

ah so I can just pick what it can be?

sweet 👍

[naive stump]

You can also just report in #h2-tech-support (just specify if you are on steam deck and what not)

[agile rivet]

oh good to know!

(I'm sure they'd also like to know what works and doesn't work specifically for steamdeck as well)

[glacial finch]

i've bound the f10 key on steamdeck to do it that way

its a bit finicky on deck though

[mortal shuttle]

Definitely just accidentally opened my boon list during combat and lost a chunk of health to some ||harpies||, ugh

And I don't want to put it in feedback to not let me do that, because sometimes I do want to look at my boons during combat

But ugh

[static spindle]

I've done the same. But the keyboard process on steam deck always sucks. Not to mention selecting the fields.

[glacial finch]

i have a keyboard and mouse to use with deck but in my experience when i f10 on deck and use the keyboard to type my report, the game wont recognize my controller when i return so then i have to relaunch ): but i have not played since last update so maybe it works better now, dunno yet

only annoying when ive swapped from native deck controls to controller bc my hand is cramping up from extended deck holding lol

[subtle sonnet]

I can’t even open my god boon glossary when I’m actively opening a boon, so it’s kinda a tragedy you can open it during combat like that just to suffer

[frosty timber]

Something about the combat feels off so far. Can’t place my finger on it or maybe just so used to h1 but I feel like there are so many times I’m sure I’ve dodged correctly and I still get hit

[kindred blade]

if you are a spam clicker and try to dodge out of attack chains you are likely performing an attack dash (dashing mid attack animation. different than dash strike) not sure if there are i frames when you do that.

it is kinda hard to do a pure dash while in the middle of combat so if you are getting damaged in the middle of a dash that might be the culprit.

[dawn siren]

Hello

Has anyone finished most of the game? Im curious about some things

In hades 1 the game continues far far after beating the final boss and finishing the run. Is this similar with hades 2?

[deep hinge]

it probably will be with final release but the game is still incomplete and there is no true ending. at this point you can beat the final boss but not see the ending (hades 1 spoiler->) ||like if you could just beat hades in the first game but died before you could go into greece to find persephone||. you can continue doing runs and beating the final boss indefinitely like you can in the first game

[dawn siren]

I see. But considering I reached the epilogue with the lore in the first game, I've been wondering if the same amount of content is planned for the sequel

Or maybe even more content, but the first game sets the bar extremely high specially with dialogues

[deep hinge]

I can't say for sure but given that the game has more locations + characters than the first game as of right now I think they're planning for a similar post-game experience with an epilogue. it's just that the game is in early access. in hades 1 the epilogue and ending weren't added until full release

[dawn siren]

Ohh okay that's very interesting

I also played hades 1 in early access

[deep hinge]

oh, you did! I didn't but from what I've heard of hades 1 early access it's currently similar to where hades 1 was when it released on steam

[open ether]

guys whats the best way to beat ||cerberus||

i might just be bad but i always end up with like <50 hp when i enter the boss room

[edgy flower]

two things happening, are you showing up to ||cerb|| with no health, or are you getting hit a lot? If you're showing up weak, something else is killing your run (some other wise discord person gave me that one). how are you against ||scylla||?

[open ether]

with ||scylla|| most of the time im left with little to no health (cuz my dodging sucks) and i think im just getting hit a lot with ||cerberus||

[edgy flower]

i feel this. have you unlocked ||chaos trials||? if you have then ||you can basically practice the scylla fight with the trial of salt. learn their movesets, kill the drummer||

[open ether]

i dont think so

ive unlocked ||chaos entry/boon||

[edgy flower]

it's the ||pitch black stone that is for some reason hot pink||

[open ether]

wait is it that one place in the crossroads on the right

[edgy flower]

ah yeah not the same thing and also i don't know what i did to unlock it. but i would focus on getting through the area 2 boss with more health first

[edgy flower]

yes! it's near schelemeus

[open ether]

alr ill see

[open ether]

ok so basically more max health

I deal ok dps i think

usually use ||twin daggers|| or sometimes ||the axe||

[edgy flower]

i mean also getting hit less helps, lol, but i am kind of a melee player so i get it if that's not always feasible for your playstyle

[open ether]

Yea i usually use melee as well

sometimes i spam the staffs special

[edgy flower]

for any new to me boss, i consider the first couple runs that i reach them as "scouting" runs -- what are their movesets, where are their AOEs, etc -- and basically try not to focus on attacks so much as watching the boss while not getting hit

[open ether]

Yea i do that too i think im just not used to the dashes n i-frames from hades i

also the cooldowns for the bosses attacks sometimes mess me up

[edgy flower]

yeah the timing on that boss is weird; sprinting around the edge of the arena is usually pretty reliable except for the ||fire breathing||

also ||cerberus|| just has a LOT of health. it's not a boss that i personally can beat quickly even if i'm having a great run

[open ether]

True true

farthest ive been is the second phase of him i think

[edgy flower]

tbh one of my favorite things about hades (i and ii) is that you go from "dude this boss is impossible i have no idea how i'll beat them" to like 2 runs later you're through with 2 DDs and 60% health

so i believe in you @open ether

[loud grotto]

Since the game is in EA it's in a very unbalanced state, is kinda funny to compare some builds on him take ages to kill while others you can 2 shot him

[edgy flower]

totally

[ionic birch]

I struggled a lot with that boss. Almost wanted to turn the God Mode on, but I finally beat him yesterday. So, you got this!!

[gentle gale]

Something I really like about this game is how noticeably the mooks prepare you for boss attacks. It gives me a little feeling of improvement/continuity, i suppose? Like, Hey! You learned how to deal with this attack pattern against the ||miniboss of first area, now you know how to dodge around Cerberus' flames!|| Gives me a little anime flashback montage every time. lol

[dense kraken]

Yeah the game does a great jpb at teaching the player mechanics and combat

Managed to get through boss 3 on my fourth attempt thanks to that

[desert anchor]

I thought Apollos little symbol was Athena but either way a pleasant surprise 😂

[drowsy jackal]

I like Hephaestus’ symbol cause it looks like BBQ tongs https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/638031423340806185/1243587218086301736/IMG_1796.png?ex=66520459&is=6650b2d9&hm=ab2619947ed8e5e3e555ef33b5a74af4fe04e49d8e5465d6ca8ff8861c79302d&

Click them three times for better RNG

[desert anchor]

Oh god now I can’t unsee that now 😂

I will say that ||chaos|| picked the WORST time to show up like oh my god I picked the lesser of three evils with their boons and immediately was upon the Erebus boss room.

Also the ||shadow hat man in the exit area of Erebus|| needs to GIT. He’s like a little roach showing up and talking to me.

[drowsy jackal]

um
who?

[royal pumice]

what is his symbol?

[drowsy jackal]

BBQ tongs, duh

probably some smithing tool
like the kind of thing you use to hold the red hot metal before bonking it with a hammer like

hang on i just thought of something

[royal pumice]

that's what I thought but I wasn't sure

[drowsy jackal]

im just guessing
but im too lazy and too full of beer to actually go and look it up so

[royal pumice]

hasn't she suffered enough

[kindred blade]

is his symbol tongs?

[weak bane]

how do i see the ||kity||

[royal pumice]

||They spawn in Erebus and then move||

[drowsy jackal]

tuna and pspspspspsps

[weak bane]

move where? ive seen them there already a few times, but not at all as of late

[royal pumice]

Upstairs ||at the entrance of the docks before entering Thessaly||

[drowsy jackal]

small sidenote
this is what i really like about hades 2 (and 1)

during my first playthrough in 1 i quite often thought "oh how do i make X appear"
and in 9 out of 10 cases the answer was to just... play the game a bit more

because despite it's RNG nature most of those things appear naturally
it's quite briliant, really

[brave cove]

I feel like I'm never going to beat ||Chronos||. I'm 35 hours in, what is wrong with me??

[drowsy jackal]

hey
don't give up

take your time
you'll get it eventually

but seriously though ||gramps is twice as hard as dad is in hades 1||

[brave cove]

I feel like I should disregard this for the time pun alone
but that's good to know regarding ||dad|| because I'm losing my mind a little

[drowsy jackal]

you want some tips?

[brave cove]

I'll take em

[drowsy jackal]

aight - here's what helped me beating him the first time:
||1 - scythe attacks - he can either do a semi-circle attack, a straight dash or throw that spinny golden bayblade of bullcrap - which is the most deadly||
||those attacks have slightly different tells, but screw it - treat them all like he's gearing up to throw that bayblade - just keep your distance just to be safe||
||which leads to number 2 - he's quite slow, so ranged attacks and omega casts should help you a lot||
||3 - start with extras just to clear out the arena||
||4 - the succ attack is a great opportunity to get in some free damage - just get behind him and whack him with all you've got||
||5 - at 50% health he starts doing combos - he can chain up to three scythe attacks in a row - keep that in mind||
||6 - try to not freak out during stage 2 - most of that fight is about avoiding arena hazards||
||7 - skills that slow down time (like channeling or the slo-mo hex) do not affect him||
||8 - do NOT get caught in the time bubble - there's always a gold ring on the ground that shows where it's gonna pop up||

jeez - this post looks like some sort of declasified CIA doc or something

[peak peak]

the only times i've been able to beat them have been by prioritizing ||Selene's|| boons and going for the ||Moon Water boon, and using the path of stars to add more uses and more HP||. the first time i beat them i think i had ||10 healing uses, and used every single one of them to beat him lol. the second time i beat him i only had 5 but they were so instrumental to succeeding||

[drowsy jackal]

sidenote

calling this upgrade tree a "Path of stars" is a bit... unfortunate

because it shortens to POS
and it's not a POS - it's actually great!
i love this thing

also - total eclipse is the best hex, prove me wrong

you can literally nuke anything straight from orbit
making ellen ripley proud

[naive stump]

Wolf howl gets you guaranteed crits on use with one of the upgrades

[drowsy jackal]

yeyeye
don't care

im busy nuking tiny little spindles with 1,2k of damage

[naive stump]

Meteor is fun for the impervious while is about to hit tho

[drowsy jackal]

i like the double nuke upgrade too

also if you use two in a single fight you can make a butt-shaped crater in the ground

you can't top this
you can't win
total eclipse is the best hex

[brave cove]

solid advice, thanks!! the ||scythe|| gives me the most trouble for sure.. I've only ever gotten them down to 25% ||on the first stage|| but I knew a second stage exists so this is good to keep in mind

I should have put this in spoilers I suppose but I haven't even gotten past here so I feel like I'd be spoiling myself

[brave cove]

the ||moon water|| boon is the one I use the most - and prefer of all of the ones available. honestly, I'm not a fan of the others so much and it's SO helpful. the closest I've gotten to beating them in my runs is with this equipped and like, 5 uses

[drowsy jackal]

That’s over 100 hp on tap
Nice

[peak peak]

honestly, idk what other opinions on this are but i feel like the second stage is easier for me than the first one is??

[drowsy jackal]

Yeah zone 2 is a bit divisive
Some people say it’s harder than 3

Some people say it’s easy

[brave cove]

I use it so much that I feel like I'm cheating.. except then I die and feel justified lol

[drowsy jackal]

Which usually means they got it just right

[brave cove]

....w...wait... there's a third stage...??

I'm never going to beat it

[peak peak]

oh wait. when you say 3 do you mean ||the part after you get [them] down to 0hp and start over in a new field?|| or just after you reach ||half hp||

i meant second stage as in ||after you get chronos down to 0hp and you move to the "clock" arena thing||

[drowsy jackal]

Wait
No

I mean zone 3

We still taking ||gramps?||

[peak peak]

yeah!!

[drowsy jackal]

Sorry lol

[peak peak]

to be clear, i find the part where you ||move to the "clock" arena|| to be easier, but i have no idea if anything else comes after that 😂

[drowsy jackal]

Well they still haven’t added EM4 so

God EM4 in hades 2 is gonna be nuts

[peak peak]

ok I think I get what you're saying now lol. I have not played much with EM this time around because i'm just trying to have a silly goofy time while i figure out how all the various boons work

[drowsy jackal]

I can’t wait to hear what tunes Darren will cook up for us for EM4 here

When unseen ones kicked in hades 1 it was like

I wonder who is he gonna collab with this time…

…it’s gonna be Mick Gordon, isn’t it?

[desert anchor]

he needs to leave me alone and let me sip on the healing rain water without judging me LMAO

[distant flame]

Can I pm someone with a spoiler question? Or can I ask it here? where do I do that?

[hollow star]

In discussion, story-discussion, builds-and-combat, depending on what it's about

[distant flame]

ok ty

[past leaf]

would be hilarious

[storm heart]

Smithing tongs, yeah

[prisma talon]

I just started up last night, and I’ve been having trouble with the shriekers and the ||swordfish things|| does anyone have some tips against them?

[royal pumice]

cast

[worldly pulsar]

Yeah use the cast

[past leaf]

cast is very crucial, get used to using it

[delicate onyx]

Axe the ever living s&*t out of them

[prisma talon]

Right ok. that and the omega abilities are definitely something I have to adjust to

[lapis blade]

also being able to run faster after a dash by holding down the button is a new mechanic compared to H1, but very welcome. can really help you make distance vs some enemies. omega cast also dope for a large party of soft targets

[dapper tree]

yo the axe love it yo haha

[hazy umbra]

👀

[dapper tree]

https://tenor.com/view/high-af-weed-high-gif-9295939

[marsh glade]

this dude is baked haha

[deft quail]

Okay so for context, I have barely played Hades 2. I played it for 50 minutes on release day and I died to the area's first boss. I barely know anything about this game but I had a crazy dream about it so I'm pasting this message from my friend group's Discord server XD

I just had the craziest dream

So I've been playing Paper Mario the past 2 days.
So obviously I had a dream about playing Hades 2, the game I've only played for 50 minutes because I wanted to go back and 100% the first one.

Did you know that in Hades 2, apparently if you make it through your first run you unlock 2 player mode? Zagreus is just there now and he plays exactly like he did in the first game and all his weapons and boons from the first game are back.
So obviously Noah started playing 2 player mode with me.

And did you know that Hermes is a mini-boss in the first area for some reason? I have zero clue why he fights you, maybe he's testing you? But he sure is annoying to fight. He just constantly ran away and taunted us while me and Noah were yelling at him to come back so we could get a hit on him 🤣

Also did you know that Hermes has a boon in this game that lets you order a pizza? If you order a pizza and successfully make it to the end of the run, you can give the pizza to Chronos and skip the boss fight!

Also did you know that the second area is apparently a beautiful bright green woodland area with purple poisonous swamp tiles? Honestly props to my brain for keeping the randomly generated rooms coming, my conscious brain would've given up.

The way 2 player mode works is pretty cool too, to make up for having more firepower there's double the enemies in each room and double the health for each boss. Also each player gets their own list of boons to choose from from each God. The game is split-screen locally and each player has their own screen if you're playing online

I remember near the end of the dream I got a cool duo boon from Ares and Poseidon that let the attack from my witch's staff slowly spread out into a very large circle that continuously inflicted doom and pushed foes away. It was really cool and spamming it was the thing I missed most when I woke up.

Apparently the final boss of the second area is a tournament that gives you a selection of 3 random tough monsters to fight in a row. Each with their own gimmicks and silly characterization. We never got that far though, I just knew about it in the back of my mind from when I'd allegedly beat the game before.

The last thing I remember before waking up is finding a boon from a stone themed god I'd never seen before, and I was going to get a boon that gave me a lot of rare rocks I could use for witch crafting stuff when Noah stopped me and told me that I should actually grab the rare stinky cheese boon from the God because it's really broken because, and then I woke up before I could find out why the cheese is so good

So that's the gameplay of Hades 2 apparently from someone who has not played it

There was also some really cute back and forth between Zagreus and Melinoe

Like there were times after we got a boon where Zagreus would be like "you know, I've actually met Poseidon," and then they'd talk about it

Also there were times when after getting a boon I'd be like, "Man, I want another boon, I feel like I could've gotten a better boon than that." And then my dream would take pity on me and Aphrodite's orb thing would come back and Noah and I could just keep asking for another boon, it was silly 😆

[orchid axle]

hermes miniboss that just taunts you and runs away the whole time is a brilliant idea

[dim patrol]

hey folks, i've never played early access before so not sure how to approach this - do I just keep playing and eventually I'll get a message saying "hey you've reached the end of the story so far"?

[sleek forge]

This game has special messages when you reach farther than they've written for a run

In terms of an end of a character arc and such, the only signifier is when their dialogue just starts repeating a lot

[dim patrol]

brilliant, thank you!

[versed grotto]

I’m about 70 hours into the game with 85 completed runs and most NPCs are still giving fresh dialogue. Even at this stage of early access, this game is already HUGE.

[wind plinth]

i have 50 hours and im pretty much out...

[lapis blade]

||also, many of the characters and the narration will comment on the fact that you've reached the end of some of the content for now which is a fun meta element||

(minor spoilers for current end of run content)

[sudden tulip]

[keepsake spoilers ig]
||i am going to fight chronos and i can either take the tooth for 101 health or the evil eye for 20% damage against chronos , is the damage really worth it i cannot decide||

[abstract terrace]

take tooth

[sudden tulip]

alright thanks i just need reassurance

ok time to do it 🙏

hoping this is gonna be the run

[past leaf]

if its one of the first few wins tooth, but later on i started taking eye to level it up

[sudden tulip]

havent gotten a win yet

[past leaf]

then yea tooth

[sudden tulip]

does ||old grudge|| work on second phase too?

[ripe osprey]

it only triggers once

[sudden tulip]

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864470083732242442/1244038452702347284/image.png?ex=6653a898&is=66525718&hm=dcbe2718410ea5d9463684e9f477c2af31db41cb262b626fc46b4ae5c7496b98&||
im just gonna post a screenshot because idk what to pick

[ripe osprey]

for a first time clear ||old grudge|| is probably the most useful out of those

[sudden tulip]

first phase is kinda easy though but sure ig

i struggle with the second one much more lol

ill take it

[ripe osprey]

||howling soul|| is nice but somewhat situational and no use at all if you're not used to abusing cast

[sudden tulip]

i have apollo magick regen so i need to stay in my casts which dont deal much damage either way

[ripe osprey]

and ||unseen ire||... barely remember it tbh, i think i just took it for the fated list once

[ripe osprey]

ah yeah it would be actively detrimental to apollo cast

[sudden tulip]

i finally bought a second dd before this run so maybe this will the one

[past leaf]

gl

[ripe osprey]

gl!

[sudden tulip]

thanks 😌

[sudden tulip]

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1211092531878695074/1244044256599998644/image.png?ex=6653adff&is=66525c7f&hm=6e35803f517fdd41ee5289d68377c71def0e5255e3c96c44390b378ff86105ac&||

Not even close chat 🎉

[ripe osprey]

hell yeah ya got it

[sudden tulip]

||i forgot to grab something
that chronos dropped and then i went to zags room and i didnt grab it||

help

[ripe osprey]

as long as you picked up the ||sand|| you're good, the ||orb|| is just for some dialogue and you can check it each successful run

[sudden tulip]

oh thanks thank god

panicked a little sorry

[ripe osprey]

i did the same thing my first run too lol

[sudden tulip]

welp that was fun
took like 24 nights (or atleast thats what it says on the savefile

[ripe osprey]

now you get to enjoy resource grinding /j

[sudden tulip]

yayyyyy

i kinda wanna play hades 1 now i still havent gotten all achievements and relationships there lol
while i wait for updates to hades 2 🥰

[ripe osprey]

there might still be some h2 content if you haven't ||awakened the stone|| in the training grounds or ||interacted with the top path||

[sudden tulip]

done both but havent finished the second thing you mentioned

maybe ill wait for it to get finished

[ripe osprey]

yeah, it's incomplete right now

[junior wren]

for the ||stone getting more keepsakes and weapon aspects adds more missions || first part

[sudden tulip]

oh i guess that makes sense thanks

i thought you would get more of them in some different way idk

[elder bough]

@unkempt bluff uh mate, the buffer system in this game lasts almost a full second idk what you’d be doing wrong to not get something buffered #h2-feedback message

[raven parrot]

do you miss playing after not playing awhile

[elder bough]

I have the opposite complaint actually, I’ll tap a button almost a full second before an animation finishes and it still does a move afterward

The hold buffer I think is just literally infinite at least for dashing but the tap buffer is ridiculously long too

[unkempt bluff]

idk what to tell you, i press dash into omega attack and it doesnt charge

although I could not reproduce it outside of a run, so idk maybe its a stress issue

I can just tell you that I am holding the button and nothing happens

[lapis blade]

After getting the "hold x to attack continuously" Daedalus hammer on the Moonstone axe, I find it nearly impossible to dash-strike without it then kicking off the first strike of the normal attack cycle, feels very unintentional when that happens.

[stable solstice]

Maybe it's weapon by weapon basis
dash strike into omega attack on staff is perfectly functional, but something like flames attack into omega attack feels like it fails half the time despite the repeated use not being broken by dash otherwise

[warm seal]

Guys I have a question - do pets and gathering tools stack for higher chance or is it an overkill to get pet + rod/tablet?

[timber basalt]

Bruh took me 26 hours to ||beat chronos||

[velvet tide]

Any tips on for the second area boss?

[ripe osprey]

focusing down on ||one of them at a time|| helps a lot, ||I usually prioritise drummer -> guitar -> scylla||

[coral obsidian]

Question in card activation and total amount.
I’m trying to activate the centaur card but having no luck.
I have already activated the unseen and wayward son which are worth 5 and 1 respectively. Why can’t I activate the centaur card?

How can I increase the amount allowed to activate?

[brittle nymph]

you need to activate cards that cost 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 respectively

[coral obsidian]

Sorry I’ve clearly misread it. Thanks

[past leaf]

I think they stack

[runic iris]

when is next update coming??

[naive stump]

Soon™

[elfin cedar]

When It's Done™️

[tribal scaffold]

For the second part, you can highlight over Melionë when selecting cards. If you have Psyche, you can increase the amount of cards you can equip.

[agile cedar]

is ||d-wood|| only obtained from ||going to the surface||?

[sleek cloak]

Yes

[agile cedar]

thanks

||is it before or after the cyclops||

[sleek cloak]

After, in the 2nd area

[agile cedar]

ok

[ripe osprey]

it also has a terrible drop rate lol

[sleek cloak]

It's better after the patch, I feel I get at least 1 guaranteed now

[ripe osprey]

1 across the zone still feels pretty bad, compare that to the ||lotus flowers in oceanus|| where you seem to get 3+ by the end

[wheat quest]

haphaestus' boons are so insultingly bad

[tepid fable]

yeah they usually need to be higher rarity or pom’d to hell to do good

because for me at least, they only do really well when i can whittle down the time it takes to reset the big bonks

[ripe osprey]

his attack and special suck, but the rest are really good imo

[tepid fable]

yeah he has quite a few good secondary boons

his atk and spec need to be epic or heroic to work well unfortunately

(like right now i have a heroic heph atk that with 4 lvl ups i got the cooldown to 2 seconds. its bonk city)

[brittle nymph]

really? i LOVE Hephaestus's attack and special. they do so much damage so even with a high cooldown i can just cycle through my other moves and by the time i'm done with that the cooldown is over. one of my very best surface runs only happened because i had both hephaestus's attack and special.

[rare rune]

Yea it could be quite good for cast 👀

[next fractal]

do we know if there's any heart system for tracking character relationships similar to the one in hades 1?

[brittle nymph]

there is, its an incantation

[next fractal]

oh cool! good to know, thank u :)

[sly pumice]

Heph support boons are some of the best, I don't think I could even touch ||fears above 32 ||without them

[runic iris]

any youtube channel that does H2 "longplay" taking things slow and going thru all the dialog??

[ivory crystal]

How do companions level up?

[ionic lantern]

You need to feed em more treats

[coral obsidian]

I’m now on 20 instead of 10 😂

[ivory crystal]

ahh, I was kinda expecting it was after X encounters or something. Thanks!

[surreal stirrup]

how do we unlock ||more trials||?

[lapis blade]

||by unlocking additional weapon aspects, or at least that's been my experience||

[edgy flower]

probably, or on twitch, search for "cozy Hades"

[ripe osprey]

||weapon aspects, unlocking keepsakes, and visiting each zone in the game||

[ripe vapor]

Also unlocking ||both pets||

[sharp saddle]

I have a friend that is wondering if he should buy and play the first hades before going to the second one. I have no idear because i am still doing stuff on the first game. What are your opinions on this?

[shadow lichen]

There are definitely story references to the first game that are fun to see if you have played it, but I don't think it assumes you've played the first one by any means

gameplaywise it introduces everything from the ground up, and the story is also pretty self-contained. The references back to the first one are more on a level of... well not "easter eggs" quite, but certainly not integral

[valid path]

This has some good info on it from the devs #hades2-faq message

[lofty lily]

I feel that while you can certainly play it without playing the first one, I kinda wonder if people who haven't will be as invested in Mel's task as those that have.

[shadow lichen]

fair point, playing the first game does create a sense that you want to rescue these people, though Mel herself arguably doesn't have that

except in a fairly abstract sense that they're her family

[edgy flower]

i agree. also the first game was a little more straightforward (fewer items to grind for) and i feel like if i had played the second one first, i might have gotten overwhelmed by the collectibles. also, this is underrated, but the first one is done, and if you played the first one now you'd be ready for II by the time it comes out, or is at least a couple patches ahead

[shadow lichen]

also a good point!

multiple good points, actually

[sleek forge]

I'd also like to state the obvious that the first game is complete and the second is still being developed
It's a lot of content and very fun, but that should still be taken into consideration

[lapis blade]

I'd say to buy the first one and play it since the gameplay is pretty solidly overlapping, and it's a complete game right now.

[shadow lichen]

yeah, there's absolutely a lot of skill transfer between them

[lapis blade]

Also Hades 1 is $5 cheaper on US Steam, so I'd rather pay less for a complete game now if I were a new player

[shadow lichen]

though I do think that Hades being complete vs Hades II being still in development is a little bit misleading, as I think the amount of stuff you can do in Hades II now is indeed comparable to what you can do in the full game of Hades. The devs have said that and I think it's accurate. Though narratively of course there's less satisfying resolution available in 2 right now

plus I think there are some habits I had in Hades I that I had to unlearn for this one (mostly having to do with combat playstyle)

[lapis blade]

Maybe, but the end game content is definitely there for H1 atm. H2 is still definitely unfinished in that regard. I do still enjoy taking on the final boss but the story elements run out a lot sooner right now (which is obviously fine, I knew it was EA when I bought it). If they like the idea of playing a game under development, then H2 may be for them. i personally enjoy H2 for that reason.

I do agree, they definitely play different, specifically movement and crowd control imo. I actually went back to H1 and feel a lot more restrained as a player (in a good way) especially wrt the double dash and movement in general. Feels like I got better at H1 by playing H2.

[shadow lichen]

yep, 2 has comparable amount or more content from a gameplay perspective, but from a narrative one it's definitely going to feel unfinished

[shadow lichen]

mmhm, this one incentivizes a much more careful playstyle, and I could imagine there being some people who would like this one and not so much the more frenzied style of the first game. I certainly find that I make less noise on my keyboard and have a less elevated heartrate playing this one

but you're probably right that if I went back to the first one having gotten used to this one, a lot of the more deliberative technique would actually help there too

[lapis blade]

I had a really bad habit of mashing the dash button in the first game that I found really hard to break. I definitely miss the indication that the dash is ready to fire again in H1, but I picked up on the timing eventually.

You make a good point about people enjoying the play style of H2 more, I can see that.

[naive stump]

#h2-feedback message @signal drum the color changes are done through arachne's dresses (erebus friendly npc door)

[signal drum]

really? cuz i’ve gotten them even after my dresses broke

maybe that’s just a bug on my end

[naive stump]

Prob bugged yeah

[tribal scaffold]

Does anyone know how the Keepsakes counter works for ||Mourning Fields|| and ||Rift of Thessaly?||
Like, do they count by location, or encounter? If it's by location, then you only get a few counts on your Keepsakes, but if it's by encounters, then you could potentially level up your Keepsakes faster.

[ripe osprey]

they work by encounter

[tribal scaffold]

Ah, okay, cool.

[void basin]

frinos plush when

[frosty timber]

Could use some combat advice I’ve been able to beat the first game on 25 heat no problem but I’m really struggling in hades 2. I find myself just constantly getting dinged for damage

[potent badge]

momus

[ripe flame]

I think Hades 2 encourages more deliberate play. I also think that right now using the ||fear|| mechanism for extra difficulty is a bit imbalanced. Are you having trouble at higher difficulty, or just completing a run at all?

[frosty timber]

Completing at all, it seems like enemies are harder to interrupt? If that makes sense. In hades 1 if I saw an enemy about to attack I’d dash in and stun them

[naive stump]

https://fxtwitter.com/WolfyTheWitch/status/1793322908779270537 source stuff next time

[sly pumice]

There is more emphasis on ranged combat in Hades 2, can take a moment getting used to if you liked playing melee and dashing in

[green gorge]

@flat pumice things like that where spoken dialogue and the text box don't match should be reported with or rebinding the button to an unused controller button

@maiden light bugs should be reported in game by pressing or rebinding the button to an unused controller button

[maiden light]

Gotcha thanks

Pressed F10 and the game frozen

How do I report bug like this

[green gorge]

Alt tab the bug reprter a couple times might be hiding underneath the game window

[maiden light]

Yeah no completely forzen, thank you very much tho 👍

[flat pumice]

my bad, heard

[icy umbra]

I did not have the source

[naive stump]

You can use sites that allow reverse img search for trying to find sources

(and also, just don't share them if you don't have the source ideally)

[surreal stirrup]

i definitely found myself automatically going in for the cancel and running face first into ouchies

[ripe flame]

Yeah it took me longer for my first win too. I think the Arcana make such a big difference that it took me until I had enough grasp for a decent set of them. As I said, it seems to require more deliberate build choices, and you're less likely to stumble into a great run.

[ionic birch]

I finally made it to ||chronos for the first time, and that too with all 3 DDs. Cleared the first phase with 2 DDs spent. But in the second phase, I got obliterated lmao.||

Met ||Hades too||

[deep lance]

I dunno, I think Hades 2 is probably about as hard as Hades was, for me - 30-something runs in, stuck on the 2nd boss for an extended time is actually better than I was doing in Hades at the same point (I think I cleared Meg at about run 30)

[velvet tide]

Hades 1 definitely harder… or maybe I have just become better. I have gotten to the final boss and have not even unlocked ||death defiances past the first one||

[deep lance]

Oh, I unlocked ||2 death defiances|| plus ||Skully's||, and it's not enough to get past the 2nd boss (or ||the first boss in the surface||) for me yet.

That said, I am doing better than I was against Hades 1, so you know, it might be Hades 2 is easier, or it might be that I still remember something from the 100 hours I spent on the first game...

(by contrast to the first game, the main problem I have with H2 is that there's too much stuff to remember all at once - we even have twice as many abilities to use, most of which I'm just ignoring because I'm not going to remember 6 different options in the middle of combat)

[tawdry bane]

Hades 2 Combat seems much slower paced
So Runs also feel longer and just overall bigger

[signal flax]

Yes agreed, I really enjoy this game emphasis on slower tactics, I've had to think more about my positioning, it's a great change from the first game where I felt with most weapons you could brute force your way through it

[digital elk]

What are the names of the ferret and jackal statues in the crossroads? Cant find a single mention of them across the internet 🤔

[lofty lily]

I don't know their names but have they not shown up in ages for other people as well?

[hybrid nebula]

yeah you have to evade a lot since enemy projectiles aren't extinguishable without ||Hestia's boon|| but using ||Cast and omega Cast|| helps a lot with planning your moves

[rotund frost]

Thats pretty cool

[lapis blade]

||Phase 2 Chronos: "ah yes, lair actions."||

[eager osprey]

Could Hades 2 run on a chromebook

Cayse I gotta play this hame somehow

[mighty hollow]

I’m playing it on a thinkpad so I think so? 🧍

I just got it and it’s been running super smooth,I figured out how to work steam solely for this game 💀

[dark wasp]

those are Hecuba and Gale, who are actually Headmistress Hecate's familiars in-game (like how Frinos is Melinoë's)!

I'm pretty sure it's mentioned that they go out on a mission for Hecate and aren't set to return for a while?

[digital elk]

Whered they go? 🤔

[velvet tide]

||Death to Chronos||

[eager osprey]

Whats a thinkpad😭

I googled it nvm

[white spruce]

Lenovo Thinkpad™ laptop
Super modular design, easy to work on by oneself, replaceable parts, and otherwise highly regarded among techie types

[white spruce]

yeah, from what I understand it's when you open up the H||ot|| S||pring|| in the Crossroads, the path to it goes through where they were hanging out, so Mel asks Hecate where they went after a few runs

[mighty hollow]

I got it for free and all I know is that thing is HEAVY

it’s like a whole workout lifting that thing on my bed in order to play the game,then I have to untangle all the cords from my controller and headphones 😭

[edgy flower]

i'm playing it on an old microsoft surface laptop (bought in 2019/2020?) and it runs fine. (edit: it's the laptop with the touchscreen, not the tablet)

[ancient tusk]

My first impressions of Hades II: Why is Melinoe so pretty

[rare rune]

Have you seen the happy Melinoe art?

[ancient tusk]

not yet I just got the game last night 😂

[ancient tusk]

I have also tried to go as blind as possible

[bold wigeon]

did you guys like final boss song?

[scarlet mesa]

Hey this is like the h2 discussion just without spoilers right?

anyone got any tips and tricks? i just did my literal first run

[edgy flower]

@scarlet mesa awesome! and for tips and tricks, i mean ... keep doing runs

[scarlet mesa]

using the run feature is wild now, im still tryna zag constant dash lmao

[edgy flower]

i fully thought my dash was broken until i saw a sprint boon. it's a very different playstyle but that's kind of nice imo

[scarlet mesa]

discord can your commands work for a second?

||so the cauldron is like the house constructor with the buying things the further runs or get later game items like fishing?||

[edgy flower]

basically yes

[edgy flower]

you get ||new incantations for the cauldron|| as you go along, so unlike the contractor in H1, it's more of a slow reveal.

[scarlet mesa]

gotcha, seems this games alot slower pace early

[edgy flower]

yeah. that said i liked that the story seemed to advance (i had new dialogue, etc) a little bit every run for the first 30 runs or so, no matter how far i got

[scarlet mesa]

OKAY i really like that bc i had a file where i didnt get to deme until idk 60 runs in bc i just wasnt getting lucky/ skill issue so i like that ill be making progress

[edgy flower]

right like in H1 i think it took me 30-40 runs to beat the first biome (💀), and in this game i am getting to the final boss in the underworld and i haven't even done 50 runs. i like that they basically plan dialogue assuming you will die repeatedly

[scarlet mesa]

which also means that since they expect you to die so much they probably jacked up the dificulty a little

cause it feels harder ngl

[edgy flower]

how far did you get

[scarlet mesa]

how do i check?

cause i dont think ive hit double digit rooms yet

[edgy flower]

okay so you were still in the first area then?

[scarlet mesa]

i assume far far into early game

[edgy flower]

there are ||several|| biomes just like H1

[scarlet mesa]

WHY DID I LOSE HALF MY HEALTH IN THE FIRST ROOM 😭

[zenith arch]

Hello.

[scarlet mesa]

is...is there an avacado room?

[edgy flower]

Lmao yeah. The first couple runs i died like ... 2 or 3 encounters in? the ||arcana cards|| are really important and taking ||artemis's keepsake|| is good for surviving early game when you have no health anyway

[edgy flower]

psyche / grasp. it's for ||leveling up your ability to take more of the arcana cards||. also very important early game

[scarlet mesa]

thank you

it just....looks like an avacado to me, the shape the like circle in the middle

[zenith arch]

That's kinda a funny comparison.

[scarlet mesa]

hestia

it was hestia i was talking about

[winged lark]

hestia's boon do look like avocado now that you mention it

[zenith arch]

Oh, kinda I guess, lol.

[edgy flower]

LOL i can't unsee it now

[scarlet mesa]

BUT YOU SEE IT????? ITS A AVACADO

[edgy flower]

also take hestia she rules

[winged lark]

hephaestus is my little baby

[zenith arch]

I'm not a huge fan personally, her scorch effect feels a little slow to me. However, some of her boons are big W's (like the sacrifice one).

[scarlet mesa]

CHARONNNNN my guy, my buddie my lil buddy guy

[winged lark]

I wonder what charon's new sprite will look like!

[zenith arch]

I'm excited, I loved his H1 sprite.

[scarlet mesa]

its pretty clean

like h1 his was a 7/10 id say this is like a 7 or 8 out of 10

[winged lark]

I'm also really excited for ||narcissus's || design honestly

[edgy flower]

admittedly i love her vibe. her line ||"she hates everybody, i hate everybody"|| is a whole mood

[edgy flower]

i'm on team secretly hoping he still appears cloaked 1 out of every 10 runs for the bit

[winged lark]

she's a british grandma

[zenith arch]

Agreed, she is quite feisty. I just wish her boons offered a little more on average. I like only a few of her boons.

[scarlet mesa]

||do i go for bones or psyche?||

[winged lark]

the ||dash || boon is quite nice

[zenith arch]

Psyche almost always.

[edgy flower]

actually now that you mention it she's basically that british (scottish?) grandma in the viral video who was happy margaret thatcher died

[scarlet mesa]

why?

[winged lark]

oh really? didn't know that, funneh!

[scarlet mesa]

its just needed so much more

[edgy flower]

oh no i just meant like now that you mention it, she really reminds me of that lady

[winged lark]

Oh lol my bad

[edgy flower]

bones rn don't seem as valuable as a metacurrency as darkness (was in H1). like if you can get the thing you trade bones for, why not do that

[winged lark]

uh

[edgy flower]

all good i enjoyed making that connection

[zenith arch]

Cards/grasp.

[winged lark]

you can send me that message in dms or change your words, I'm interrested in what you had to say

why did it have to be deleted:(

[zenith arch]

||agreed, especially against the hourglasses, who are extremely strong imo||.

[scarlet mesa]

oof armor enemies still are a pain

[winged lark]

||I hate em, but the guardian money bag is sooo op||

[zenith arch]

||hot take, I disagree, I find them to be 2nd or 3rd priority with the verminacers and glasses being above them||.

[scarlet mesa]

so that fates incantation- is that???

[winged lark]

||Really? Dang, I think the laser is WAY too fast, but glasses sure are annoying||

[scarlet mesa]

like is that what i think it is

[winged lark]

||advances the story||

[zenith arch]

||run in a curve towards them when targeting them, screws their tracking. Also, hit n' run is key in stage 4.||

[winged lark]

||Yeahh I guess, but there are collumns that you can just run behind, I just do that most of the times (or I use sister's blade omega attack)||

[zenith arch]

Fair enough, whatever is best for your style. I'm just an aggressive player.

[winged lark]

I'm more of a ||sister's blade|| player, so I just level up my special BUT I did use the ||axe || the first time I killed ||chronos||

[scarlet mesa]

is "the huntress" actually as good of a card as it sounds? it sound kinda...really really good?

[winged lark]

what does it do already?

[scarlet mesa]

when youre below 100% mana atk and spl deal 30% + damage

[zenith arch]

Special? ||It's Special is similar to the bow in 1. I think it is quite underpowered without some hammers to back it up.||

[winged lark]

oh yeah it's good, really good

[scarlet mesa]

it sounds like if you just walk in, do a cheap mana cast and get a +30 for that room

[zenith arch]

Depends on your play preference

[winged lark]

||I did 3000 with the special, it was pretty easy too, used aphrodite's boons for the special then just had some luck with 2 hammers, not that hard (I also used artemis's aspect I don't know if it helped)||

[zenith arch]

It has more consistency, but limits the power of some spammy omega builds

[zenith arch]

I mean, fair enough. Whatever works, works.

[winged lark]

||Chronos || is way too easy imo, especially the ||second phase||

[zenith arch]

||I highly disagree, his attacks are a little BS in some cases. Mainly looking at the dash and ring orbital attacks.||

[winged lark]

||he does get pretty spammy, but it's easy to avoid with the sorceress thingy, you can look a bit and then dash like you're in the matrix avoiding some bullets||

[zenith arch]

||don't even get me started on the stupid throw. That thing is just stupid||

[winged lark]

||ring orbital attacks are ass, I hate it||

[winged lark]

||throw is fun tho! never said anyone||

[zenith arch]

||it comes out too fast. It also goes way too far and depending on how close you are too him can be borderline undodgeable.||

[winged lark]

||Also I never figured out what chronos banners do||

[winged lark]

||Yep, what I can say except yes, it truly is pain||

[zenith arch]

||when they pulse, they give one stack of the damage control buff.||

[winged lark]

oh, that's.. lame?

[zenith arch]

Yea

[winged lark]

I just destroy them 💀

[zenith arch]

Same, they are annoying.

[winged lark]

||also hades's thing reducing by 50% the summons in the chronos fight is such a buff||

[zenith arch]

||yeah, kinda an auto take for me depending on the current situation.||

[winged lark]

||I mean the other things he offers are really bad, who ever picked dark ? 40 seconds is a LOT||

[zenith arch]

||dark is likely the worst boon in the game, similar to how hades call was the worst call in H1. Invisibility is not valuable without real benefit.||

[winged lark]

||Also the enemies keep attacking even if you're in dark state, no? and if you get hit it cancels the dark I think||

[zenith arch]

||In H1 I know that they kept attacking, so not much really changed except for the fact that they are attacking ghosts, but I've yet to try the boon yet because the description makes it look so horrid.||

[winged lark]

just search ||hades II dark boon||, lol

nvm it doesn't give any results, dumb ah me

anyways, ||dark|| seems really bad

||the damage buff it gives isn't that good, and you're just invisible, so why? It's just not worth it, also the reload time is wayyyy too long||

[lost turtle]

||Dark and the 100 hp healing ability seem worst, 100hp goes by so fast it was consumed after two chambers, but I guess healing?||

[winged lark]

||two chambers ? chronos alone only gives me 120 damage average, two chambers seems quick||

[lost turtle]

||Are we talking about the same thing? I'm talking about the boon that heals you for 1% of your damage up to 100 health||

[scarlet mesa]

it looks like a certain type of comic with all these black bars holy moly

[winged lark]

oh nevermind, I'm dumb, sorry man..

yeah it's one of the worst boons

[scarlet mesa]

double moonshot or rapid moonfire

oh, or melting swipe

[winged lark]

I think double moonshot is best ? I don't remember what melting swipe/moonfire does

[scarlet mesa]

melting makes dash strike larger and destroy 60% of armor
moonfire is specials are 20% faster and +5 power

[winged lark]

i'd pick double moonshot

[scarlet mesa]

i didnt know you could spam your cast

sorry, specials not cast

OMG OMG OMG WHAT?????

||WHY IS ARTY INFRONT OF ME RN????||

[scarlet mesa]

||HOLY crackers i just got past the first boss im gonna cry that was so rough||

[chrome wave]

||the sorceress does literally nothing against chronos||

[lapis blade]

I choose this literally whenever it is offered

[prisma current]

I have 13/49 achievements and a few wins in hades 1, when would you reccomend starting 2?

[ripe flame]

When you like really. It's a pretty solid game already. A few bugs, but nothing super game breaking. Lots of character dialogue etc.

Personally I think it's a little tougher than Hades 1 at first, but because similar once you unlock extras.

If you've never done Heat runs (say 16 heat) in Hades 1, you might find it a bit tough at first.

[eternal mica]

How finished is the story in EA

[ripe flame]

Nobody outside SG knows how "finished" it is, but what's there is coherent and there's way more character development than I expected to see.

[tepid fable]

all we really know rn is that EA has more content in it than the entirety of hades 1, and even then that doenst really give us much of an idea of just how much they intend to add before the game is considered complete

no post run cutscenes as of now tho, i think they are holding that stuff for full release

[stone jolt]

I got a feeling deep in my bones there's gonna be at least one other area to crawl (i.e. you go above or below, I have a feeling there will be another path straight ahead). Idk what it would be and I have no evidence but I can only hope lol

[tepid fable]

like a hard mode thats just the areas of og hades juiced to hell and back?

[stone jolt]

you just gave me a great idea but idk how to tag spoilers and I don't want to get in trouble 😂

[tepid fable]

uh put || on both sides of the thing getting spoiled

i had to think abt it for a second cause i usually just highlight and have an option to spoil pop up

[stone jolt]

||crawling back up after beating chronos would be sick. Could be a good opportunity to meet free/talk to other members of the house not just dad||

thank you I'm old lol

[tepid fable]

that would be super cool ngl

[white spruce]

I have Marble as an ingredient in something I've Forget-Me-Not'd, but I haven't come across any of it yet, so the Reagent list won't tell me where I can get it.
Is it ||3rd biome on the upper path||? I haven't gotten past C||harybdis|| yet 🙃

[green gorge]

Its ||4th biome lower path||

[drowsy jackal]

Guess what day it is today

AAAAAAAAAAAA

[green gorge]

@drowsy jackal please post the source of the artwork. Thanks

https://x.com/b0lyachka/status/1602106374179414016?t=sJRwSnRXp4cTTOooxEtiGQ

bolyachka • commissions open (@b0lyachka) on X

froggy
#hades2 #HadesGame2

Twitter · Dec 12, 2022, 1:01 AM

[drowsy jackal]

Oh you got it already

I was about to post it

Wait a minute
The text is different

So mine was an edit

[winged lark]

What you mean? Yeah it's useful!

||Let's say he does that dash that explode later, activate an omega and just dash out of the way||

||what I mean is that sometimes you can get hit by the dash, but you can still rely on reflexes/pattern to just dash out of the way and sorceress just facilitates dodging, kinda like in katana zero when you "slow down" time to escape bullets or dash out of the way, sorceress is always good to have anyways||

[chrome wave]

||I mean it literally, Chronos still goes at his regular speed when you slow down time. You can dash out of the way of Chronos' dash normally too, it takes a little bit before it pops||

[winged lark]

Ah, well, I always saw him as slowing down, you're probably right 👍

[white spruce]

noooooooo I haven't gotten past C||erberus|| yet either 😭😭😭

[ionic birch]

Man, why the ||sheeps gotta attack while fighting the cyclops??||

It sucks

[rare rune]

||Green sheep|| are a free loss of death defiance 😂

[primal trench]

Yeha ||green sheeps|| are the real boss fight

[ionic birch]

I cried

[noble needle]

Any advice for someone struggling with the first win? Im having especially big troubles with ||cerberus, i feel like i just dont deal enough dmg to get thru his meat shield?|| Very much a skill issue on my part, but im looking for some help :) (moved this here)

also is there a thing for seeing what gods offer what boons, if so how do i unlock it, i miss it 😔

[glass sage]

yeah it's an unlock! i think you have to get all the keepsakes, but i'm not certain about that so someone can correct me if i'm wrong

[noble needle]

ah that might take a while 😅

i wasnt so dilegent about giving out nectar in at the start of my playing

[glass sage]

it definitely takes a minute, but you'll get there. maybe you only need all of the gods' keepsakes? my last keepsake was demeter's, so maybe try that first. might not take AS long

[ionic birch]

||it took me a long time to beat Cerberus. I mostly use the axe, and with that, I focus on the special and cast. Use attacks on him sparsely.

For the special, I find Hephaestus' boon to be quite helpful, the one which deals 400 damage occasionally. Couple that with a boon that makes you channel Omega attacks faster, and something that makes the hex recharge faster, and you can use the Omega special frequently.

Find some boons which makes the casts deal more damage and use them wisely, and you should be good.||

Also, there are much more talented players here, so you will get better tips as well lol.

[grizzled wren]

I definitely got it before I got all the keepsakes. Good old keepsake G is one of the very last things I unlocked in the whole game.

[noble needle]

||The only time ive beaten him was with the axe, i dont normally like those kinds of weapons (slow and sluggish) but it acc felt really nice.||

||Altho i find the heph core boons to be kinda meh tbh the dmg vs time to recharge always felt kinda eh, even when i full pomed it to reduce the cooldown, but ill give it another go||

[orchid walrus]

Heph is mostly good for the button you AREN'T building around
If focusing on atk, feel free to put it on special for some free extra damage from time to time

[ionic birch]

I see. Well, ||to be fair, I have only fiddled with the other weapons, but mostly stuck with the axe , about 95% of the time.||

[ionic birch]

Yep, pretty useful for special. Made it till the ||second phase of chronos, twice, but got wiped out both of the times ||

[orchid walrus]

||I think Axe is not the best to learn Chronos with 😅 you'll end up in lots of loosing trades if you don't already know the patterns||

[ionic birch]

Ah

[hoary pebble]

||That's interesting because even though I completed my first run with the Aphrodite build, I completed Cerberus with the first weapon on my first encounter, maybe I'm just lucky||

[ionic birch]

I haven't really tried with the others though. I don't think I cleared the first boss even.

[orchid walrus]

I'd definitely try to get a better feel for them

If anything, some allow you to play from a much safer range
Extremely helpful earlier on imo

[ionic birch]

Is it really that hard with the ||axe||?

[orchid walrus]

For my particular playstyle, I struggle more with the axe than the faster weapons, but can't say if it'll be the same for you

[ionic birch]

I have made it till the ||2nd phase of chronos and on the topside, till Eris||

[ionic birch]

Ah, I see

[orchid walrus]

(And with my play style I mean stupid overagression that holds up somewhat well due to reflexes and training)

[ionic birch]

Just being humble haha

[orchid walrus]

Partly, but I also do trade a LOT when using the axe
So I tend to end the fight in a very poor state 😅

[noble needle]

||Just got a cerb clear with the skull :D, i had hammer that gave +45 power to special, aphro on special and attack and it was okay||

||Ive gotten the advice to stand behind him, which mostly worked, but there are some attacks he would do in which he would spin incredibly fast while attacking, seems like the only counter for that is not standing so close but with aphro boons idk when to not do that? is there a cue that im missing for that attack?||

[orchid walrus]

This doesn't happen with Descura, for example, since I can be safer

[ionic birch]

Understandable

[ionic birch]

Which one's that again?

[orchid walrus]

The first one, Staff

[ionic birch]

Ah right

[orchid walrus]

Very safe special and Omega Atk

[hoary pebble]

||The funny thing is, even though I have 20 hours and completed 5 runs with the Poseidon machine gun build, I've never even touched axe, nor did I touch other weapons, people who find builds and strategies with them are the GOATS||

[ionic birch]

Will give it a go. I did like it.

[ionic birch]

I'll take a tiny bit of that compliment

[orchid walrus]

If you can grab things to boost the Omega Atk, I recommend it
You can spam it a lot with a decent magick boon

[ionic birch]

Alright, thank you

[hoary pebble]

Hell yeah, thank you for your intellect

[ionic birch]

Unrelated, but the shadesmile is the cutest thing. Felt so since the first game

[hoary sequoia]

What does it mean when a relationship heart with a character has a clock symbol? WIll be added later?

[chrome adder]

not in ea yet yeag

[edgy flower]

once i had a couple chances to learn the attacks for the third area boss ||cerberus|| i felt like that fight got a lot easier. Crits and hexes with a lot of damage work nicely. You're sprinting around a lot anyway so a sprint that damages or weakens (||Pos or Apollo||) is useful to have. I'm also still trying to beat ||Chronos||. That second phase is rough stuff

[lapis blade]

I also really enjoy the addition of the ✌️ emoji used by Shades

[lapis blade]

I was using skull|| with Persephone aspect|| and Aphro on Special, I found that the Omega Special did hellacious damage on that boss but otherwise kept moving and bopped it with regular attacks when at a distance. I also had the hammer that makes Omega skulls return to origin for double hit.

[tawdry dagger]

excuse me, How do I unlock the Codex entries for each Olympian gods Boons in Hades?

[primal trench]

Gift to every God once, then a second time to any of them

[tawdry dagger]

ooooh, I didnt give nectar to Hestia tyyyy

[velvet tide]

But how do i see who I have gifted too? Going through all of them in the keepsake menu…

[spark nacelle]

what keepsake should i start erebus with? the coins one just like hades 1 or no

[rancid mesa]

I’ve been finding success with ||Dora’s.|| The healing helps cover those times you do end up getting hit, then I switch to something else for the second region.

[spark nacelle]

ok cool

[rancid mesa]

omg. I just noticed in the second region, ||because Mel’s in water her footsteps leave behind little bits of steam instead of flame.|| What an attentive little touch.

[somber frigate]

just beat the daylights outta ||eris|| and now there are ||little shades following me around 😭❤️||

[sand void]

I second this, helped me a lot in my earlier runs

[spark nacelle]

best way to get mdust?

[sand void]

is that the purple swirly thing?

[lapis blade]

I usually save up ||Charon frequent shopper cards|| and do his deliveries, but you can also ||use an incantation at the cauldron|| to create it.

Also, at 80 bones from ||the Broker|| they're not terribly expensive especially if you use Grave Thirst or prioritize fishing to increase your bone income.

[ionic birch]

Almost beat ||Eris|| this time

[dreamy stratus]

I like the ||Chaos|| one since || it lets you keep the boon after you switch, so I just get a good chaos boon then switch to a different keepsake. ||

[lapis blade]

Oh dang, I had no idea.

[frigid adder]

Hello all! Quick courtesy notice for the server: now that we've made some improvements to our feedback bot, the "hades2-feedback" channel is being renamed to "h2-feedback"

All other server elements will remain the same. 🫡

[stone knot]

i'm still early into it, so I wanna avoid story spoilers, so don't tell me when it unlocks or anything just a simple yes or no, but: is there anything currently in the game that is ||similar to decorating the house of hades in the first? like, work orders that just change cosmetics and appearance of the little home base area. wasnt sure if that would come up with the cauldron|| and if not, do we know if that will be added?

[glass sage]

not in the game rn but they said in the 'upcoming content' notes (idr exactly what it's called, lower right corner in the main menu) that they plan on adding it!

[stone knot]

cool! 🙂

[timid ivy]

for early game, i really recommend to max out the moon one, Selene's Keepsake, so if in the first region you find the moon boon, you have to take that for second region, for the first at the beginning i would always take or money, or some specific god i wanted to get the boon early on.

[covert valve]

Get extra coins from your arcana. first keepsake should get your primary boon. then your first few poms can get on it. just like hades 1

[covert valve]

plz tell me extreme measures is coming back

[glass sage]

lol i don't think it's in the notes currently, but it was such a popular feature of h1 and has been mentioned in the feedback channel so much that i can't imagine a world where they don't add it

[thick niche]

Sorry if this has been asked a million times, but if you’re playing with the track pad is there any way to ||compel ghosts or unlock familiars||? I heard ||dashing/sprinting through them|| could do something, but that didn’t work for me

[remote pasture]

In Hades 1's EA, Extreme Measures wasn't added until the 7th major update! While I don't think it will take that long this time around, I think patience will for the best

[sleek forge]

I'm not sure about ||compelling ghosts|| unfortunately, but ||you unlock familiars with an item. You should get dialogue about it by doing enough runs.||
And dashing ||into shades is actually different from compelling them. Dashing into thin guys hanging around the map during a fight triggers something fun, the mini game with the big guys after a fight is the resource gathering. And dashing into familiars is the mechanic for a specific one||

This might be more spoilers, so i'll split a potential solution and its trigger just in case
||you can get around the minigame for compelling shades|| by ||unlocking frinos as your first familiar||

[open ether]

are there any other ||familiars|| besides ||frinos|| and ||toula||?

[chrome adder]

unfortunately you need to use the t||ablet|| twice to unlock familiars so :/
@thick niche

[sleek forge]

Ah, that's unfortunate

[chrome adder]

there may be a way to rebind it but idk

[chrome adder]

||not yet but there will be 2 more i think judging by the empty spaces in the crossroads||

[junior wren]

i use the|| trader or charrons ticket shop|| they give pretty high yields for it

[open ether]

ohhh yeah that makes sense

[thick niche]

Alas, well thank you!

[ancient tusk]

Third region boss: ||SUPERGIANT HOW DARE YOU. AND THE REWARD?? TEARS?? (i'm being dramatic)||

but also I got this game on monday, I feel proud of myself for getting so far in the same week. It took me MONTHS with Hades 😂

[plucky quarry]

I got the game about a week and a half ago and I finally got to the final boss (do not unspoil please pretty please) ||Chronos|| I feel proud of myself but then I died so at the same time I think I still suck at this game 👍

[green gorge]

@short compass for translation errors please report them in game with (or rebind it to a unused controller button)

[short compass]

@green gorge ok will do thx !

[deep lance]

I dunno, that feels like you're pretty good at the game... (I've been playing since early access opened, and have not made it to that boss yet at all, so...)

[sand void]

Yesterday was the first time I defeated ||Cronos|| without ||Coarse Grit|| (my third time in total)

[ancient tusk]

Same tho

Could someone tell me the name of the track ||For the Siren's boss room?||

[sand void]

||if you haven't defeated the boss yet it's Coral Crown||

||if you have it's I Am Gonna Claw (Out Your Eyes then Drown You to Death)||

||and then they alternate||

[ancient tusk]

Bless you ||I didn't want to hear a song I hadn't heard yet in game 😂||

I love the soundtrack of both games

[sand void]

Darren Korb has been my #1 artist in my Spotify wrapped for years now

[ancient tusk]

Supergiant didn't need to go so hard and I really appreciate it. Same with the art. I love cel shading style and Hades is the perfect example it doesn't mean the result will look simple or flat

[ancient tusk]

I'm gonna be singing this all weeeek

[sand void]

welcome to the club

my wife doesn't even play the game, she's still singing the song

[ancient tusk]

it's a really good song

[elder galleon]

Been jamming out to the singles today before a big exam, thank you Darren!

[dapper rose]

I have had the song ||I Am Gonna Claw|| stuck in my head since I woke up yesterday morning and I'm totally okay with this

[marble pine]

I was on a boss no need to say which one i got defeated.... The problem here is that i had selene power that makes you a nightmare.... during the activation animation i was vulnerable and i was getting damage is that legit or possible bug ?

anyone else exprience the same ?

[naive stump]

Animation just takes ages sadly

[daring steeple]

Should I buy this or wait until it's out of early access?

[glass sage]

depends. it's a very good game right now, if you'd be playing it mostly for combat it's a safe bet (though balancing changes/extra features/mechanics will still be added later), but if you're in it more for story you might want to wait until full release as the story isn't complete yet. did you play hades 1?

[daring steeple]

Yes I played Hades 1 fully along with the epilogue

[glass sage]

great! hades 2 in it's current build is bigger in gameplay content than hades 1 i believe, so if you want to get back to fighting thigns with new weapons and boons, it's totally worth picking up now. you might hit a wall as the hades 1 late game grinding stuff isn't quite present yet, but there is ||an equivalent to the heat/pacts of punishment system,|| and tons of builds being workshopped by the community, so you'll have plenty of room for experimentation. if combat is your focus, i think it's a good purchase as it is. can also give your opinions in the feedback channel to help shape the game!

but again, if you were mostly in it for the story or greatly valued the story, you might want to wait. there IS a lot of story, it's just not finished, so it depends on your priorities.

[daring steeple]

Thanks for the info I'll think about it because I think for me both the story and combat were important

[deep lance]

The half-way house would be to do roughly what I'm doing: I played enough to be able to give useful feedback, but now I'm holding back and playing other things whilst I wait for new patches (and then I give it an hour or two to see what the new patch has done). At my skill level, I'm in no danger of "revealing all the plot" or "getting a full clear" before the full game releases 😄

[ancient tusk]

About a Mini boss chance in Second region ||UH OH LMAO||

[rancid mesa]

I KNOW I LOST MY MIND WHEN I FIRST ENCOUNTERED IT

[spark nacelle]

would you guys say axe is the best weapon?

otherwise dual blades

[sly pumice]

The best right now is staff with ||the aspect of Momus ||

[ripe osprey]

the second best is dual blades though, with ||aspect of pan|| for speed or ||aspect of artemis|| for high fear

[dire stirrup]

It honestly depends on what kind of build you are going for imo. The axe (both Charon and Thanatos aspects can be so strong with the right build, and some good hammers, but same goes for almost all weapon.

[willow oar]

I think torches are pretty good

Mel aspect can be very strong

[dire stirrup]

Eos is my favourite aspect

It’s actually one of my favourite aspects in general probs

Pan, Charon, Eos, Thanatos, Artemis are my top 5 for fun. Order changes depending on how I feel

[pallid bridge]

torches are definitely not in competition for the strongest weapon, which hurts me to say because i like them but still

the fun thing about these games is that personal preference is a very big part of how strong a weapon can feel to you at least

[wide verge]

Hi guys, any of you know how is the song that plays when you fight ||sea serpent mini boss in ocean|| called?

[agile cedar]

upgrading the ||tablet of peace|| also affects ||frinos|| right?

and same for the other tools?

[sly pumice]

Strongest weapon isn't a competition but Eos is in top5

[worthy ocean]

you forgot to add that its totally not biased

[sly pumice]

That's obvious

[stable solstice]

The totally not biased take is moros in top 6

[sly pumice]

right up there with Circe?

[stable solstice]

nah, that would be too much bait

Have yet to see a singular circe fan. #1 open for the takes!

[sly pumice]

My first clear was Circe but I'm too devoted to Eos

[surreal otter]

Am a circe fan
This thing + timestop hex = endless timestop

Also frees you the mana regen boon

[grizzled wren]

how much mana does it actually give?

[surreal otter]

Enough for a build where all you do is spam omega attack, then activate the hex, hit the enemies with a proper attack a bit and continue spamming the omega

Pretty much feels like unlimited regen

This build does get slightly dunked on by the final boss tho

[chrome adder]

spoilers for the other area 2 miniboss ||king vermin||

[ocean gate]

Lowkey considering taking it instead of the Mel staff next time I try the quadruple omega attack

[sullen current]

Just started playing, I'm curious, is there romance in this one like the original? I don't want to know who, just if it exists

[potent badge]

not yet

maybe later

[tawny island]

Uhh is there currently any way to unlock the secrets of the veil? Or is it a later update thing?

[restive drum]

Do you mean The Gifts of the Veil? Yes, you can unlock them

[restive drum]

I'd say there is some "romance" but not to the extent that Hades 1 had, so I believe more will be added later

[tawny island]

Oh, cool! You have any hints for getting there? I think there’s been one line of dialogue on em

[restive drum]

|| Look at The Oath of The Unseen where you choose vows and it will say under the Testaments "Become Night's Champion" or something and it will tell you what fear level to beat||

[tawny island]

Ohhhhhhhhh that’s what that does. Thanks!

[agile cedar]

is there any way to stop ||eris from doubling her damage over and over||?

[rare rune]

No

[worldly pulsar]

Nope. Cant do any damage if shes ded tho

[rare rune]

shes invulnerable while shes boosting up

[sullen current]

can I get another familiar snack? I gave it to the frog bc I thought it would be funny but it won't let me make another one

[grizzled wren]

Yes. For some reason the spell/recipe to make more snacks is different from the one that gives you your first snack and can take a while to get unlocked, but it will happen

Also the frog is very helpful, so there's no reason to regret feeding it

[wide verge]

Thanks

[sharp saddle]

How do you guys makes your builds? The boons given are so different from the ones we could see in the first games.

Some things still look really obvious compared to other ||Héphaïstos explosion effect really seems to be good as a supportive tool, less as a primary source of damage for example||.

There is also the ||infusion of elements|| that I didn't need to take into account in the previous game. That and ||mana management, it kind of sounds easy at first sight, if you lack mana, build more mana stuff, but then you have dilemna like some boons sacrifice max mana to give resistance, or just taking a boon resistance even if it i less effective||.

I don't want to go in advanced build yet, but I still think I could use some help figuring how I should make my builds.

[pastel glen]

I don't, I get guided by the RNG go where gods want me to go

[brittle nymph]

i basically do my builds around my mana regeneration and daedulus hammers

based on how much of that i can get and what my weapon actually does influences which boons i take from each god

[naive stump]

The basic of it is that faster attacks with low base dmg prefer flat dmg like pos or zeus static shock

Meanwhile a higher dmg/slower prefers something like aphro/apollo for the high % boost (or added AoE)

Cast builds are easoer to figure as they are pretty much, take cast > get duo that buffs it if possible > take any cast/omega dmg you can find

[sly pumice]

Make sure that every good you're introducing does something to your build. The god pool is || 3 instead of 4 || so that matters too

Whether that's your main damage or support. If you literally could use 1-2 boons from a god and they're not game changers, skip them

[sharp saddle]

Yeah, those mechanics where pretty similar to Hades I. I was more asking about all the new stuff (||mana, infusion, moon thingy||).

But after gaming this afternoon I think I started to get the hang of it. || I managed to face Chronos on my 11th attempt but he really messed me up. At least I know I am on the right track||.

[naive stump]

Ah
Mana is dependent on what your build is, some just don't care about more mana (some really care about the mp regen boon you have too for example, mainly torches)
Infusion most of them can be just a bonus you get, some can be built around (coarse grit/air quality)
Hexes are uh

Most useful is usually moon water (hp) as the dmg ones are frankly underwhelming so they really get used for "while hex isn't ready, gain x% buff" stuff

They can do some work if you focus on path of stars but that usually means passing on other, more generally better upgrades (boon from a god you want/poms you get it)

[abstract terrace]

the time slow hex is very good against everything but the final boss

[fathom raven]

I casually took the axe out for a run then got the "hell splitter" upgrade. The rest was history; with the help of a few boons (mainly Aphrodite and Demeter), it took me literally 10-15 hits to defeat the final boss (Don't get you're hopes up, the FB ain't that easy).

[dense plank]

nothing special just passing by to say that i love aphrodite in hades 2

in my simp era

[velvet tide]

I take it that the images with just a letter in it are just missing still, because of early access?

[warped helm]

Yeah, that's placeholder art

[proper wedge]

I posted in tech support but also gonna post here. Anyone know how to remove the cursor off of the screen? I run hades 1 keyboard only

and theres no option in the options menu on Hades 2 to not aim at cursor

and Id like to run Hades 2 keyboard only

[mystic vigil]

@signal jackal you dont need to leave frinos behind to tame another familiar. In not gonna spoil where you find the cat again, but its not where you're looking and when you do, you can't miss her!

[indigo needle]

@mystic vigil Taken care of a long time ago but thanks!

[mystic vigil]

Oops. Wrong @signal jackal

[signal jackal]

Right Claire here!

Thank you, that's SUPER helpful!! (Very glad I don't have to leave Frinos behind 🙂 )

[mystic vigil]

I was in the same position as you, only my dumb ass didn't even notice Frinos in the spawn area for the longest time and when I did I was still dead set on finding Toula first and just didn't anymore

[stray quail]

is it just me or is beating nemesis considerably harder than beating thanatos in 1?

[velvet tide]

She is way faster, with Than you see what he will be attacking and can focus kill it before he does, with her thats not really the case. Only failed once tho, and that was the first time…

[ripe flame]

For Nemesis it's good when you know the likely enemies in a room. Let her go for the far away ones or the shielded ones. If you just aim for the enemy nearest you, you'll probably lose half the time.

I lose to her only when I haven't got my build up and running properly

So perhaps in first 3 or 4 chambers.

[stuck spire]

I find if you're unlucky and Nem gets you in a later area (esp if you're using wands) it can kinda just be "lol you lose 100 gold"

[lone elk]

She's not bad later in the run, but unless you luck out and get the tons of small enemies rooms she just will win because she does so much more damage than you're usually capable of doing outside of specific builds.

One of the many reasons I hate her.

[stuck spire]

Yea

[sudden scroll]

Had daggers with pan aspect plus quick special, bouncy special, and circle special… and then had to pause during final boss cuz someone was at my door. RIP my 1st 16 heat run.

[stray quail]

is ||star dust|| used for anything besides pet treats atm? it seems to have a pretty low supply so i just want to play it safe

[naive stump]

There's a moon dust recipe that uses it iirc and for 3rd rank of defiances

[covert valve]

You unlock an incantation to pause after 4 clears i think?

[sudden scroll]

Definitely cleared more than 4, so that’s weird.

But good to know.

[covert valve]

i was gonna say, its wild you are running 16 fear without that. i also got it offered after the first time i tried to pause, is this the first time you've tried too?

that would make sense in game, no reason for mel to do that incantation if she doesn't realize it's an issue, but that almost guarantees people are gonna get creamed by a walkaway.