h2-victory-boasting

[lethal flicker]

can be a total screen clear if you can spread hitch

[compact crater]

might be decent for very high fear

[graceful epoch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271084276741570653/1283783344026423306/20240912143526_1.jpg?ex=66e43fe8&is=66e2ee68&hm=1c9605bb74a9fc7361c23dc2215ba756d474787f1401b2700aa2a61a4f6bb0cb& did Mel axe again since my only 50f clear with it relied on busted engagement ring

[lethal flicker]

Anvil Ring meta, go

[lethal flicker]

The most overtuned DayBreaker experience

[lethal flicker]

Oddly you do get two daybreakers, but your specials are only copied by the youngest one

[gentle jacinth]

death to Infernal Beast! or something

[nimble nimbus]

44 fear cast only with Anvil Ring
https://youtu.be/pGCdXrpCJZQ

[random sleet]

@slate matrix
https://youtu.be/gNqM2IkS6C8

Eos 50 down, just Mel left for torches!

[thorny birch]

model scales perfectly zamn got them in high res

[austere lava]

Yeah the 3D models really stepped up in h2

I believe they hired a new 3D modeler so it makes sense

[slate matrix]

ur on the podium by 0.07 seconds lmfao

[swift knoll]

third chronos entry. p2.2 again it was a skill issue entirely. got greedy with all the time in the world

[gentle jacinth]

dude literally didnt touch me or my shield... its over for the old man

[grizzled slate]

☠️

[grizzled slate]

Mr red have you tried using the block button

[swift knoll]

i do im actually throwing

idek im getting nerves or sumn every time i get there

[south monolith]

Normal

You will get it

[grizzled slate]

Just don’t get nervous then 🤠👍

Hi @south monolith

[swift knoll]

so true actually

ill make sure to do that next time

[grizzled slate]

What hammers did you have? I still don’t know the pictures for axe

[swift knoll]

i think unyielding and exe, latter being useless bc i was already primed out

[grizzled slate]

Yeah that’s tough, why not do it with than? Feel like it might have a better 51

[swift knoll]

mostly due to erebus. im way better with than overall but the bonus health mel axe gives is really good cause im lowkey a 50f fraud

basically skill issue

[grizzled slate]

If you’re better with than just practice with it, you’ll beat 51 in no time

You’ll also improve your Erebus a lot by not relying on the extra hp

[south monolith]

I would also suggest using than over Mel axe

Mainly cuz I don't like Mel axe

[grizzled slate]

Good take from a bad player yes yes

[late flume]

wild 20f mel skull win

[cyan obsidian]

My fastest run so far (sorry for the french )

[lethal flicker]

Freezer Burn and Winter Harvest are so brutal together...

[quartz granite]

@night linden What I was talking about

[orchid carbon]

32 Fear!!! Finally

[orchid carbon]

Félicitations, fellow French speaker 😌

[steep bramble]

@slate matrix 5/15! Got Scalding Vapor at the end but wasn't exactly the best. First run of the day too after not being able to play. As always gl with your runs fellas 🫡

[steep bramble]

@slate matrix 2 in one night!! 6/15 🫡 Gonna try to do as many as I can before I can't play for the next two weeks. Also will figure out out to record eventually without laptop turning into molten plastic. Probably should do Eos next lol

[steep bramble]

@slate matrix 3 IN ONE NIGHT I CANNOT BELIEVE IT. 7/15. Friday the 13th blessing???

I had 0 DDs before Fields, Echo single handedly saved this run 🫡

[steep bramble]

@slate matrix 8/15!!!

[slate matrix]

das crazy

[steep bramble]

i have 0 idea what is happening

im just gonna keep going ig

[steep bramble]

Almost got a medea run, would've been 5. Runback tomorrow 🫡 will get the Medea 50F of the day for myself

[south monolith]

Medea 50F of the day

Zeus absolutely refused to show up a single time after the first and ruined my day
I just wanted the funny ransom boon

@slate matrix @grizzled slate

[swift knoll]

@slate matrix @south monolith @grizzled slate I DID IT LETS GO

[south monolith]

YOOO LESSGOO!!!!!

[swift knoll]

hitless cerb and tart until chronos i locked IN

[south monolith]

actual good E-Part too

Slow Cooker+Decent martial

[swift knoll]

yeah it went pretty hard, i thought i was on 52f until mid oceanus which blows but oh well a win is a win

so happy rn no chance i do this with another weapon, might start 52f for this bc ive already been working on it or 55f than

[swift knoll]

bruhhhhhhh i choked again w 1 shot but different weapon so thats cool

honestly no way i lost this my p2.2 was so bad i hate tempus

[south monolith]

have you been taking dad chamber for possible dissent

[swift knoll]

nope

[south monolith]

probs worth it considering your timer

[swift knoll]

is that the extra damage?

[south monolith]

less adds

[grizzled slate]

No less tempus

Also congrats 🤠on the 51

[swift knoll]

ohhhh yeah that wouldve saved me i got caught by a tempus and lost like all my health

[grizzled slate]

Tbh you should just do 55 than now

[swift knoll]

thank you so happy

[grizzled slate]

If you get good rng and actually use block button on chronos you’ll win

Don’t waste the rng on a 52

You’re good enough for a 55

[swift knoll]

im pretty bad at erebus though and it just removes a bit of the luck idk

[grizzled slate]

just practice

If you make it out and get like anything you’ll beat 55

If you hit a fat seed at 52 on than you will be sad it’s not 55

[swift knoll]

idk for me timer diff is so big for erebus that i wouldnt mind the 52 win, i know i really should but i like enjoying the game 😭 and i know i will less with good runs dying to timer from long rooms

that was honestly my issue with 50f was usually timer

you are totally right that i should be doing 55 though

[grizzled slate]

Oh you’re doing 52 with 7 min timer

[swift knoll]

yes

[rough briar]

first 40 fear, elementary particles sweep

[subtle ivy]

Those infusions are actually crazy 🤣

[tough gale]

Just a bit of safety

[rough lily]

it took weeks but I finally cleared 50 freaking fear

[slate matrix]

AYE CONGRATS

could you by any chance send me the post night clear for the purposes of stat tracking? the clear withthe boons and keepsake and all that whatnot

also would "Chetris" work for you as your name on the sheet?

[rough lily]

hell yes it would

[slate matrix]

alrighty

[slate matrix]

my goat

[rough lily]

did use different arcana than on the spread sheet, I can pull those for you too

Normal Moros arcana but Origination and Strength rather than Boatman and Champions

[tough gale]

let's goooo

[bleak spruce]

new record with 4 fear, omega special + apollo boon can go crazy

[carmine igloo]

I got my first win just to forget to take a picture sad

[twilit vault]

This one was awesome, used crystal figurine against hecate and got judgement level 3, ended up with all arcana active except 18

[lethal flicker]

tried my first actual attempt at a speedrun, game hands me the I Love Sunny D build

[lethal flicker]

And now back to more normal nonsense

Chaos casually handing me a +90% cast bonus right at the start

[heavy socket]

Run 2 Final Boss defeat. This time it is noteworthy, because it is not abusing Hestia-Apollo for regenerative immortality.
To be honest, I did not expect to manage this with Poseidon. I am feeling genuinely proud.

[bleak spruce]

first run complete with the sister blades, and god damn these things can SHRED with a good build (I also had 1600 gold by the end lol)

[cyan walrus]

came back to the game after a while for a god build and a new time PB

[slender storm]

my special was doing silly amounts of damage, it was beautiful

[south monolith]

@slate matrix @grizzled slate Did a quick all weps streak
VOD up later probs

[lethal flicker]

Island Getaway just makes Flutter Flourish a true monster of a Boon. Spiteful strength wishes it could be that good

[grizzled slate]

Zzz where’s the all aspect streak

[south monolith]

When you do an all weps

[grizzled slate]

Too long of an upload so there’s no point

[south monolith]

only 2hours 16 mins wdym 😭

omw to do all aspects one sitting casual 7 hour run

[south monolith]

https://youtu.be/XecghVyIaas

[swift knoll]

@slate matrix lil 50f with goated hammers

[brittle temple]

Hell splitter + Executioner Chop was not a Synergy I ever expected to be as good as it was, but with 1000 damage per attack I can't complain.

[lethal flicker]

KABONG

[eternal hound]

First 32 fear Underworld completion

[swift knoll]

@slate matrix really good bridal glow pre-chronos, good eparts etc

[velvet carbon]

that might be the single best particles i’ve ever seen

[swift knoll]

thats what im sayin, everything ended up being so good, pulling creation too was nuts and tall order to go w those

[random crow]

zeus sprint was very fun

[silver acorn]

Acabo de terminar mi primera run, las bendiciones de hefesto son muy divertidas.

[lucid nymph]

First time beating Chronos, I use a lot of boost from God but still suffering 😭

[vernal kraken]

Chronos was put down, had a crazy omega special

[late vigil]

pan omega special w/ Aphrodite boons is insane

[random sleet]

@slate matrix Thought I was gonna go crazy before I got any kind of luck on a run where I was also playing well, but I just barely squeaked out my second full 50 fear weapon. Mel Torches 50F

Chronos fight: https://youtu.be/_KeWNEu6T9U

[south monolith]

Why you pick the absolute worst aspect to do 2nd 😭

[glossy goblet]

Working my way toward 50 fear...

[empty snow]

May or may not be the most insane run I've gotten (damage bonus was 310% btw)

[random sleet]

it was my 6th aspect, but second weapon. Had no idea mel torch was so awful lol. Felt like my erebus was entirely dependent on skips every time

[daring charm]

First run with the skull, might be a slight bit strong (maybe just rocket bombard though) (also my first ever win)

[tardy ginkgo]

Behold the 'setting everything especially on fire' build

[swift knoll]

@slate matrix 55 warmup for the day

[random sleet]

@slate matrix

https://youtu.be/o2thJz_AwOY

Long video, had to take lots of breaks to actually work a bit

[daring charm]

wolf howl kinda nasty though with the double attack hammer and hearth gain

[spring cradle]

What’s better than two legendary boons?? Having three legendary boons.

[daring charm]

Chronos talked $hit, got hit

[clear fiber]

I think I've peaked with this one

[late gull]

Not a fear run but first time doing a run on my less than optimal laptop and first time doing a judgement run if anyone is curious the selected cards were the ones I had prepared going into the run and the first keepsake I had was the silk sash

[lethal flicker]

Ideal for running rings around everyone

rings made of lightning

[clear fiber]

Even better with torches since you can have high damage blitz orbs while you run

[naive horizon]

First victory! Death to Chronos, babyyyyyy

[velvet carbon]

love to see it

[swift knoll]

@slate matrix warmup, basically 50f than of the day atp

[south monolith]

This guy wants to be me so bad smh my 4head
Nah it's good Mini need his daily 50F because I haven't been playing

He craves it trust

[swift knoll]

fr i saw you stopped and had to step in (this 55f aint gonna clear itself)

[zealous elk]

the 3rd statue get !!!

[zealous elk]

fake ??? why you buy that item to heal blood ? isn't it impossible to heal ???

[velvet carbon]

it bypasses scars for some reason

[zealous elk]

excuse me, can you tell me more about that ? it can be bypass if it is on ground since meet the witch, but seems like it is impossible under ground... 🤔

[velvet carbon]

its a bug, breath of eros and preserved hope work through scars unintentionally

[zealous elk]

wow, how interesting~

[placid wind]

best timed run so far (saw the time potential and played recklessly)

[empty snow]

The game refused to give me a special boon T-T (chaos flourish carried)

[dense cairn]

havent played in like 2 weeks, still got it

[last flower]

like wise bro, like wise XD

[last flower]

Another one!

[lofty oriole]

Oh wow I didn’t realise that 😮
So I can still buy them to get health back at 50 fear?

[velvet carbon]

yep!

[velvet carbon]

probably not for long though, seems like something that they are gonna patch out soon

[lofty oriole]

That's pretty awesome 💛

Also not much of a boast but managed to get 40 Fear blades thanks to Mint Condition lol

50 was too tough for me 🤪

[velvet carbon]

40 fear is still awesome

also tempus in number one damage taken is very relatable

[lofty oriole]

I hate them so so much

[velvet carbon]

they’re so bad

[lofty oriole]

My own fault for taking the Hades room and then subsequently having a giant room full of them 😂

[velvet carbon]

why do tempus and numbskulls just have no enemy weight

[lofty oriole]

Legit...

[velvet carbon]

also sop spindles and bawlders

[lofty oriole]

Most of my 50F runs usually end in Erebus so I kinda hate the spindles, hippos and those snail things more haha

[velvet carbon]

oh yeah erebus sucks so bad

[lofty oriole]

Hippo: Lemme just slither all the way to the entrance and waste about 15 seconds 🤪

[velvet carbon]

i remember getting a room of armored sop spindle spam, with a few hippos and caskets just kinda thrown in there for funsies

[lofty oriole]

Yeaaah I cba so I'd just reset if I saw them and I was at 1 minute left 😂

Man I also had a really nice 50F run and I needed Echo to give me Survive

[velvet carbon]

if i’m at one minute left in any erebus room except for hecate that’s a reset lmao

[lofty oriole]

Then Nemesis was like HAH LOSER

[velvet carbon]

echo is a fraud

[lofty oriole]

Kinda wish Survive was guaranteed ngl

Similar to Patroclus back in Hades 1

[velvet carbon]

she would have been boon fight reward trust

echo is near guaranteed is the thing

patty isnt

[lofty oriole]

Yeah that's true i guess

[velvet carbon]

i just wish boon boon boon told you what boon you would get

[lofty oriole]

Okay yeah that would be nice

[velvet carbon]

that way i could actually take it

[lofty oriole]

(Honestly though I'd prolly still pick Survive since I'm always dying lol)

[velvet carbon]

yeah lmao

or evade since tart well can sell a dd

[lofty oriole]

Evade is prolly the next best thing for my kinda playstyle 😂

[velvet carbon]

evade is insanely good if you have like greater evasion or some other dodge chance

[empty snow]

My fastest run so far

[lofty oriole]

Good stuff 👏

[empty snow]

ty

[empty plover]

first time trying 8 fear in the underworld, been struggling so much above ground with higher fear that i thought this would be so much harder than it actually was

[jaunty cove]

I found a really dumb combo where you can basically get infinite omega damage with blackened fleece + phoenix skin. I had the two spin hammers for Zorephet and treated Tartarus like I was just whacking weeds.

Wait, I'm so stupid, it just says after. Not "for every 250" like I read.

Still a really fun build LOL

[lofty oriole]

45 Fear Moros

Somehow need to get better at time management and revenants for 50F 😬

[lofty oriole]

Good stuff! Goldwraith must've been a pain lol

609

[jaunty cove]

no, I let it hit me on purpose thinking I was buffing the Blackened Fleece lmao I thought I was getting +20% damage per 250 points of damage taken, so I stayed in one room and took a bunch of damage until it would have been 5x were it the case.

[lofty oriole]

oh lmao

That would've been funny

If it worked that way, +100% damage would be insane

[jaunty cove]

Right??? Plus all of the other buffs to omega damage I had. Would be super fun, and a good option for new players, too.

[lofty oriole]

On a side note, I wonder if there's a leaderboard for most damage done to you by an enemy 😂

[jaunty cove]

could become a speedrun category. "Masochist%"

[lofty oriole]

I once had a run with the pre-nerfed Moon water where I could recover all the damage Chronos did to me and I ended up taking 863 damage in total 😂

[jaunty cove]

mel walking through the crossroads like

https://tenor.com/view/nefertari-vivi-one-piece-gif-14055532

"mission accomplished, gang"

[cosmic brook]

speedrunning server may do something like that in the future for challenge of the week(you could suggest it)

right now the challenge is most hex damage done

[steep bramble]

Seeing these runs makes me want to play so bad 🥲 ggs and death to chronos fellas

[eternal hound]

First sub 10min

[prime quarry]

Ten times!!!

What exactly does the most damage suffered and most damage inflicted indicate?

[neon nebula]

how much damage you got from an enemy and how much damage you dealt with an attack

[prime quarry]

damage inflicted by an attack in total right?

Like, sum of all the damage I've dealt with that attack?

[neon nebula]

yes

[random sleet]

@slate matrix Took a break from the skulls and tried mel daggers. Got it first try!

Just filmed from Cerb to Chronos https://youtu.be/UaYagPFFOD8

Also Artemis: https://youtu.be/LvoOsUSZGr0

[random sleet]

also pan @slate matrix

https://youtu.be/dbhtMAOy8as

[prime frigate]

my first 32 heat clear, baby steps

[empty snow]

My first run trying use the cast as my main damage source

[slender anchor]

FINALLLLLLLY

god DAMN that was a powerful run

the moment i tanked cerberus i knew how powerful this run was

[true grove]

managed to clear all 5 weapons 50f within few days 🧑‍🍳

[latent wing]

It's nice to see "swimming in gold" at the victory screen, I can't find place to spend my gold, and final shop had aight rolls

[ocean dagger]

holy that’s a lot of gold

[austere lava]

That’s some genius emoji usage right there

[willow oracle]

This combo is a bit too much.. I was stupid and picked up a Chaos boon that made me take 500 damage after 120 seconds, and it didn't pop before right before I killed him.

Fire is immensely powerful on the staff, it seems

[velvet carbon]

one of my favorite combos in this game is hot flash plus glamour gain plus that one duo that makes all enemies nearby

[willow oracle]

Another pretty good combo, this time with Aspect of Pan. Usually, if the fan shot isn't within a certain vicinity of the enemy, it does not seek them, but spiral knives makes it so no matter where you aim, all of them seek the enemy no matter what. No game breaking combo, just a lot of raw damage. Very proud to say that this was my first no death run though!

(Just.. don't look at my 4 spent "heal all damage you took in the last 2 seconds" moon spell, I'm good at the game I swear)

[velvet carbon]

REAL gamers beat 55 fear without using pin or toula or any defensive boons at all also under 15 minutes get better smh /j

cool build though

ggs!

[willow oracle]

Real gamers beat 55 fear without attacking and without taking damage. Also, the fear thing that makes boons you don't choose never reappear is literally a buff, not a debuff

[velvet carbon]

sometimes it forces you into swapping into volcanic strike but yeah it can help with build creating if you don’t mind keeping track of it

im personally too lazy lmao

[willow oracle]

Usually I sort of know what I want to try to go for, so if there's one out of three boons I know I will use later down the line and the other two are basically useless, it just assures I don't roll into them again and waste a spot if the god reappears.

Also like half of the boons are very situational and niche so if they don't fit the build it's not worth ever picking them up that run anyway

Meaning, getting rid of boons you don't want permanentally is more often a buff than not

[velvet carbon]

yeag

[willow oracle]

Devs should change it to work the same as Hades I's heat that limits the amount of boons you're even allowed to choose from

THAT'S an actual fear factor

[velvet carbon]

true but that one was really unfun so ig thats why they changed it

[willow oracle]

True enough. I usually put it on stage 1 when going for high heat because in the grand scheme of things in Hades 1 any boon was likely to help in some way or other

[velvet carbon]

ideally hades 2 gets to that point soon

patch 3 really helped imo

[willow oracle]

Patch 3 was huge, both literally and in the millenial brainrot term

But some boons like for example most of demeter's snow storm ones are just a waste of space currently. Freeze does next to nothing as far as I've seen and even with lvl 4 heroic the Cast still only does like 100 or so damage

[velvet carbon]

freeze is really good utility for normal encounters and at higher fear can be lifesaving

the damage from arctic ring is nominal but can break rebuke for slower weapons as well

[nimble nimbus]

Please, no. It was pretty easy but VEEERY unfun and boring heat...

[south monolith]

Yeah no we don't need approval process thanks

I sure do love difficulty in the form of really really awful RNG!!

[willow oracle]

Idk, the only thing I could come up with rn that isn't a buff

[velvet carbon]

i can think of worse things than approval process

probably closer to onion replacements then ap replacements tho

[willow oracle]

Oh yeah I forgot onions existed

[velvet carbon]

“all boons come with a chaos curse that lasts 3-5 encounters depending on level” before you actually get the positive effects of the boon

[willow oracle]

3 for common, 4 for rare and epic, 5 for heroic?

[velvet carbon]

not rarity vow level my bad

uhh

[willow oracle]

Ooh

But then they'd have to reduce the cost of another by 1

To keep it 55

[velvet carbon]

“all boons derarify each 15-10-5 encounters after pickup, if this happens to a common boon, it is deleted”

chat never let me cook

[willow oracle]

"After a guardian is defeated, all rare/epic/heroic boons transmogrify to a random boon from a random god and with random rarity"

[velvet carbon]

Vow of Rust:
After your attack/special/cast kills an enemy, its damage decreases by 5/10% for the rest of the encounter.

[velvet carbon]

i would play this

[willow oracle]

This one would incentivise you to use underpowered commons

[south monolith]

Why would we keep it at 55

[willow oracle]

idk it's what it is now and it fits. 50 for all the fears and then +5 for the joke "haha your arcana are gone now"

[south monolith]

I think it's pretty likely 1.0 ends up with max fear being ~70

[velvet carbon]

i want all the vows to have 5 levels where possible

let me play +100% enemy speed please and thank you

3 minute timer

[willow oracle]

I feel like all the percent increase to enemy stats should have 5 levels of each being +20%

[south monolith]

I think they want everything to be 3 lvls max (EM might be an exception when/if it's added

[velvet carbon]

oo fun fact in one of the chaos trials iirc vow of blood is (maybe patched) at 5 levels

its still +100% enemy damage

but orange

lemme actually fact check this

[willow oracle]

Anyway, moral of the story, the fear that makes you permanently delete boons needs to be reworked, or all the boons that are currently made with a semi-specific build in mind should be altered or made somewhat useful

[velvet carbon]

panic should also be reworked

[south monolith]

Tbf it doesn't help you that much since it doesn't make duos or legendaries easier to get anymore

[willow oracle]

Chances are, when you're looking for duos or legendaries you usually know which boons you wanna get, especially when you start getting into fear. It's at that point where game knowledge is starting to seep in

Unless you just pick whatever and go with the flow, then you might miss out on duos

[south monolith]

No I'm just talking about how in early patches it made it like super easy to get duos and stuff

[willow oracle]

oh! I mean fair

It's a.. 6%? chance to get duos with the arcana for it, right? Unupgraded, at least.

[south monolith]

Idk Queen is usually off for me

[willow oracle]

I try to keep it on for the chance increase. At 30 capacity you can have two of every price to have centaur active as well

[south monolith]

Anyways we should probs move to like #h2-builds-and-combat

[true grove]

Watch mint be paired with trusty and you have 0 rerolls 😂

[true grove]

Max will be around 72 in 1.0

[willow oracle]

gah, unclean number

[true grove]

64 isn't clean either

[willow oracle]

In base 8 it is

Also where do you get 64 from?

[true grove]

Hades 1 max...

[willow oracle]

Ah

Base 8 is pog though so that's just a nerdy little easteregg if you squint hard enough

Wait, 72 is also part of base 8..

It's cool now

[waxen gulch]

Aspect of Thanatos

[nimble portal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1217110523091357747/1288706981762306089/image.png?ex=66f62967&is=66f4d7e7&hm=57b36636be2ff9951fa0e3a68397d767dd71c3ccb6d45fd25d4465127584376d&

judgment 40

[waxen gulch]

If you have yet to do a Scalding Vapor (Hestia/Poseidon) run, you're missing out.

Aspect of Medea:

[white pebble]

Ooo, I gotta try that

[waxen gulch]

It's super strong with any weapon that can hit with both its attack and special. The cast can work, but don't take Poseidon's cast, it sucks.

Oh and keep in mind; Steam is not considered a curse for some reason, so you'll need something else to work with Origination.

[white pebble]

Dude... I'm gonna game during my lunch break fr fr

[elfin sand]

first 32 fear yippee !

[empty snow]

was going to go cast only but then I got queens ransom AND executioners chop sooo

[idle lodge]

how does this work? does hell splitter just hit twice now?

[empty snow]

Yep I did like 2.5k damage per left click

Plus queens ransom carried with the +16 levels per hera boon

[idle lodge]

that's wild

[lofty oriole]

Good stuff! 👏

[swift knoll]

this build w mel axe instead of charon would be insane

[steep bramble]

^facts. Imagine if Echo duped a hammer and Empowering Guard was there as well? That would be literal god mode

Or Dashing Heave (I am carried by Dashing Heave)

[slate matrix]

First run in about 2 weeks. I am so rusty I lost all 3 dds to Hecate LMFAO

[steep bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/the-return-of-the-king-lord-of-the-rings-ro-tk-title-card-gif-22191928

[noble ginkgo]

inb4 mods result in every Dash-Strike resulting in 100 Dashing Heaves.

[rigid wave]

yay first 32 fear run

[noble ginkgo]

Congratulations!

[rigid wave]

thanks got origination off of the piggy, which was a bit ridiculously lucky

[neon nebula]

Who needs mana?

[halcyon pawn]

This is probably the most well-thought out build I've ever come up with that was actually entirely improvised
I basically just started off with heroic Aphro and went from there... this was absurdly rewarding

[vale gale]

This was an extremely fun run. Possessed Array works with Exceptional Talent with no additional magic cost.

[zealous elk]

8 rainbow boon !!! Chaos -> double boon 😂 😂 😂

[zealous elk]

if 8 rainbow boon is world record ??? 🤔 🤔 🤔

[empty snow]

She did lmfao

I got a hammer right before echo

But it wasn't a attack hammer I think it was sudden cleave that I took

all 3 were special hammers

[zealous elk]

...so if use bring a hammer (3 star) with your side, then you will 4 hammer 👀 👀 👀

[empty snow]

I had 4 hammers I only pinned the attack ones

[waxen gulch]

Aspect of Thanatos in 16:00

[ocean dagger]

lv 17?????

[waxen gulch]

Queen's Ransom

I only just noticed that Toula is in my top 5 damage inflicted. I wasn't sure they were tracking that or not.

[ocean dagger]

damn

go toula go

[waxen gulch]

Aspect of Circe in 12:52

It was far to late into the run for me to realise that Circe was not the right aspect for this build lol

[zealous elk]

confuse ??? if omega attack is the major one, why do not use Medea bless ??? deal 40 % of omega to ALL enemy

[waxen gulch]

Medea bless? what are you talking about?

[waxen gulch]

oh the keepsake

I hadn't taken enough damge before then, so the over all +30% from Nemesis felt more reliable at the time.

[dull raven]

I mean, Evil Eye doesn't do anything until Chronos

[waxen gulch]

sure, but medea wouldn't have done anything till chronos damaged me anyway

[dull raven]

Fair enough

[waxen gulch]

not really sure what the meta is for Chronos keepsakes

i just know to not take a god boon keepsake that far into the run

[dull raven]

I personally stick to Fleece most of the time since I suck at avoiding damage

Lion Fang is pretty good when it comes to damage

[waxen gulch]

fleece is almost never active for me until halfway through chronos

[dull raven]

Same w/ Antler

[zealous elk]

nope, from the time you choose, it will keep adding damage you get (not only Boss) until you change another bless

[waxen gulch]

yes I know, but I am good at avoiding enemies, and I wouldn't have met the 250 damage threshold until Chronos got a few swings in at me anyway.

If it were active when I got to Tartarus, I would've taken it

[zealous elk]

will, i had about 400 (327x4/3, blood lower than 1/3, get half damage) of blood vs 160 your blood, you are good at avoiding !!!

[waxen gulch]

I had this run once I dont even think I took 250 damage total.

[dull raven]

Guessing LovesickHeart was Aphrodite?

[waxen gulch]

likely a trial of the gods

[zealous elk]

do you have xbox controller ? (seems like you use ps controller, smooth enough ?)

i use xbox

[waxen gulch]

PS5 Dualsense

and just to boast a little more, I always play with this active as well.

[dull raven]

I'm always playing with speed up as well. Feels wrong without it.

[waxen gulch]

I used to speedrun Hades 1, and you had to turn this on for good time.

now I am just so used to it, I can't play without it.

[dull raven]

I went back to the original recently, never made it high heat there so it ended up being one of the first ones I turned on. Had a pretty safe 8 heat with that + 1 level timer + EM1

[waxen gulch]

I also turn the timer on, just in case I am having a bad run I can intentionally die to the timer and keep Evil Eye on Chronos.

[zealous elk]

you can use the shield to void 100% first attack

[waxen gulch]

Yep, I used that strat for my 32 Fear run

[zealous elk]

my heat 32

[zealous elk]

befoe that, I just wonder if you die once just to fight boss

[waxen gulch]

yeah, you have to do it once. I think it's really dumb, and I wish the developers would change the keepsake a little. Chronos is the only boss where it's relevant.

[zealous elk]

it is really hard to me if enemy run and attack speed +40 %, do it one time, die at THE DOG for 3 life and can not win... it just keeping ejecting the fire and do not stop...

[slate matrix]

what the actual fck are some of these 32F setups

[dull raven]

I don't have the exact setup but I managed

[slate matrix]

yall are insane

[slate matrix]

this is harder than my 40F

is this 50F training

[dull raven]

I believe it was like this

[slate matrix]

yknow what sure as long as it works

[dull raven]

Idk why I'm so slow in 2 but I can't do anything below the 9 minute timer

In 1 I can reliably do 7 and aim for 5

[zealous elk]

meet echo with hammer !!!!

[zealous elk]

just 10 blue battery magic... 💀

[zealous elk]

get yellow special from Echo - last night bless

[random sleet]

@slate matrix

Link from Echo on: https://youtu.be/iqByiKGEXmM

[slate matrix]

bro is blazing through 50Fs good stuff dude

[random sleet]

Thanks!

I thought hades 1 hooked me, but hades 2 is on another level. Hoping I can get all 50F aspects done before the next major update

[steep bramble]

You got this, EZ MONEY

[slate matrix]

welp

first 50 in a hot minute

[clear fiber]

Tried to make a room temperature build but ended up with "Origination the build"

very fun worth trying

[slender anchor]

beat eris for the first time to settle an old grudge

also this build is STACKED

flutter flourish straight up carrying my run

[empty plover]

no damage from chronos fight lets GO

[ocean dagger]

holy i always take like 4723978 damage from him

aphrodite 😭

[empty plover]

it's hard to see her projectiles lmao

but yeah it's a lot of practice and a LOT of luck 133 hours and i'm still not always clearing

[zealous elk]

I use armor to defence (about 130 before Chronos), why I still got 172 damage from Chronos ??? 🤔 🤔 🤔

is breaking armor count as damage ? I have restore blood 1/3 if hurt since rainbow boon, but I donot get that much hurt from Chronos (I also has Moon boon unbreakable)

[steep bramble]

If I have to guess, the armor tanked a hit that was more than the damage value so it broke the armor. Probably just takes that into account while you still have full HP

130 armor+17 health lost would still leave around 25 damage that is missing, so the armor break would be whatever it had left + 25 damage

[zealous elk]

not really... about 130 armor, so I forget real number, I has restore blood 1/3 if hurt since rainbow boon (fire rainbow), 17x3/2

[steep bramble]

Ah gotcha, my bad 👍 im so used to having no healing on

[lofty oriole]

Congrats 👌

Now time for 50 Fear 😈

[slate matrix]

so true

[zealous elk]

Ah, no... I can pass 32, or maybe 36 (armor at first)

[slate matrix]

small jump from 0 fear to 50, not that bad :)

[zealous elk]

It is hard if check on time limit

[lofty oriole]

Honestly same lol

My only 50 Fear clear had me almost lose cuz of time 💀

Haven't been successful ever since

[ocean dagger]

it's better to discuss this at length in another channel, like #h2-builds-and-combat (but i think the timer is the easy one, everything else is hard)

[zealous elk]

not irony, but the player pass 50 heat mostly use bug...

[slate matrix]

Its incredibly hard to enforce people to not use bugs like this because most people dont record runs and what would count as bug abuse (see the pom bug). I still have hundreds of 50 fear clears logged that have been done with no use of preserved hope though

[fluid helm]

i win

no dadboon too

[dawn lantern]

Boreal Gust was doing some work

[empty stream]

The Axe is fine as always

[fluid helm]

is charon like a pseudo beo how do i make it broken

[slate matrix]

apollo’s lucid gain

[random sleet]

@slate matrix

https://youtu.be/JN2pb6GxDvM

Only got the second stage of Chronos this time. Went to check the recording to see how I got hit and saw it wasn't recording.

[steep bramble]

@random sleet what do you use to record? GGs the aspect blitz continues

[random sleet]

just the built in screen recording software with my amd card. I really like how discreet it is but i forget to record a lot lol

[steep bramble]

Gotcha, probably dont have that on my end but gonna record my runs when I find something. Hopefully my laptop doesnt melt 🫡 ggs once again

[slender anchor]

wah

[fading plover]

Is 5 mins good for a surface run??

[velvet carbon]

yes

[fading plover]

well i did that on like day 3 of EA

😎

[velvet carbon]

oh old momus yeah that makes sense

[fading plover]

yeah that was broken

[fading plover]

just came back after taking a 4 month break (only played for like 1-2 weeks)

[fading plover]

I thought i was special and original using that build, turns out everyone used it.

[random sleet]

doesn't get much closer than this. Thought it was over when I used my pin in P1

@slate matrix

Think I recorded the entire run this time too!

https://youtu.be/moUd2VjDMdw

[steep bramble]

Not even close 🫡

[jaunty cove]

You ever just win before you lose?

I was outpacing the vow of desperation with a SUPREMELY suboptimal scorch build. It was supposed to have Freezer Burn, too, but I got really unlucky and just had to make due.

[steep bramble]

Not even close 2: electric boogaloo

[fluid helm]

i think this guy is hacked

[bronze sage]

Technically pre-victory but this might be the grossest combo I've been able to get. Only thing that could have made it better is getting attack cd down to 1 sec, making each blast create a heartthrob, and making each of those heartthrobs into 3 heartthrobs lol

[slate matrix]

cant go lower than 2s on volcanic strike

[bronze sage]

aw darn

didnt know for sure but was hoping lol

I got it all the way down to 2 sec back in Erebus and thought I was just getting unlucky with poms

[random sleet]

@slate matrix

Just Medea left now.

Got the cerb finish onwards: https://youtu.be/mnVDZqAGDJw

[zealous elk]

get total damage not over 200 🥰 🥰 🥰 (get damage over 2000 by Chaos challenge...)

[lethal flicker]

Damage to armour is damage, but it's capped at the current armour value, so if you have 1 armour point and chronos slaps you for what is normally 42 damage, the game only shows and records 1 damage point

[empty snow]

I never imagined some of my highest dps would be from the casts 💀

About 6k damage per non omega cast

doing some calculation it is about 830 dps

[random sleet]

@slate matrix Finally done all aspects!

https://youtu.be/nxvB1Hb5F8s

[slate matrix]

hot damn that was fast

good stuff! hope you know what that means for the sheet :)

[random sleet]

I'm not sure what it means, but I'm cautiously optimistic 🫡

[slate matrix]

nah its nothing bad, you just get your own page

[random sleet]

JustBrad with his very own 50 fear clear page. Take that 11th grade teacher who said I'd never amount to anything!

[random sleet]

Also I never said thanks for tracking everything with the sheet. Definitely made 50 fear into something a lot more enjoyable!

[slate matrix]

no problem, glad it was of some assistance

[steep bramble]

Good [REDACTED] stuff, also your 11th grade teacher smells like onion. GGs 🫡

[random sleet]

You’re damn right they do! And thanks!

[bronze sage]

Wowowow my Omega attack just became an smg

[ionic swan]

Gaming

[empty snow]

Tried some higher fear and it was so close mint condition is the best boon in the game

[ebon oriole]

FINALLY my first Chronos vanquish lol

[gloomy glen]

nasty comeback is surprisingly good at higher levels/rarities. did like 20% of chronos HP alone

[vale gale]

was not the original intent of the build I was going for but damn that's a big Chant

[maiden nymph]

babys first win against the man himself! (i may have killed Her twice but still)
I LOVE BACKSTABS

... im realizing i never actually used that aphrodite rarify lel

[sharp prism]

shout out to whoever recommended the thanatos axe for the 800% enemies run. that helped me out so much. but still. an exhausting run ****

[ionic swan]

Where do you get that font

[daring charm]

I forgot to screenshot the end screens but I did 32 fear on both underworld and surface first try (first 32 clears, Aspect of Thanatos for both)

[steep bramble]

Statue tiem

[grim swan]

I finally beat Chronos for the first time yesterday

[steep bramble]

Here’s to more 🫡

[grim swan]

I used the axe with the hammer buff that lets the omega attack fire in front of you, plus the one that allows you to take other actions while the attack is being done

To be completely honest the most useful part of that second buff is literally just that I'm able to set off the attack and then dash out of harm's way

Still, only won with 3 hp left LOL.

[sharp prism]

It’s a mod 😭

[gloomy glen]

Hera going for that final charon shop troll

[earnest kite]

I actually managed a 16 fear, highest I've gotten in either 1 or 2

You know, choosing to face an extra encounter in Tartarus was probably not the best idea because I almost ran out of time lol

[slate matrix]

holy moly your vows are so hard for 16F

[earnest kite]

Yeah, I wanted to make it more difficult for myself because it's fun? Maybe?

[earnest kite]

Actually I did get Winter Harvest from it so worth actually

[slate matrix]

im just surprised that you decided to go with many of the harder vows to reach the 16 fear threshold instead of some easier ones since its the highest you've gotten

[earnest kite]

I did chose a lot of the easier ones in the lower fear levels, but it kinda just felt like "Oh this is just like any normal run but I just have to run around and grab revenants"
Which isn't that interesting or fun imo
Making the game harder with damage makes it so I'm forced to learn and get better and just not get hit as often

[slate matrix]

thats fair

given enough practice with this loadout, honestly i think you could just jump straight to 32

[earnest kite]

Just avoiding significantly punishing additional effects makes it just feel like I'm cheating the system slightly, at least for myself
No shame in choosing those of course

[slate matrix]

i wouldnt considering it cheating the system but if you have more fun with harder vows i wont stop you

[gloomy glen]

This one ended up weird. bridal hit in the almost final room but gave me flourish when i already had the duo. also my first win at 32 without mint/trusty

[brave vortex]

cutting it just a little close, first 24 f clear for me too

[velvet carbon]

the only hp that matters is the last one

[earnest kite]

Sunny Disposition is the best Duo Boon in the game

[still wave]

not a victory but... I WAS SO CLOSE!!!!!

https://streamable.com/layb42

list of punishments:

1. 20%+ damage by enemies
2. Enemies have 30% more health
3. Every enemy has 2 invincibility hits (must hit them twice before doing damage)
4. All foes move 40% faster
5. Most encounters have 60% more foes
6. Most foes have a 25% chance to be from the next region
7. Any heal effects are reduced by 50%
8. Any items that cost money cost 80% more
9. When choosing a boon, the two other boons in that selection will never show up again that round
10. Each region's first boon becomes an onion (1 HP heal)
11. 9 minutes to get past each region
12. Prime 10 magick for every rarity above common

[velvet carbon]

if you get there once you can do it again!
i’d maybe recommend redoing your oath though, this is like 40f difficulty lmao

[steep bramble]

You got this 🫡 tbh I agree with plimbo you could maybe adjust some of the fear levels to make it easier. 9 minutes is a lot of time, even upping the fear to 7 could allow you to allocate some of the harder oaths or remove them. Either way, we look forward to the dub

[still wave]

So far other oaths have been even harder for me. I had 24f before and I didn't even make it through Hecate.

[still wave]

Thank you for the encouragement!! I honestly just got lucky with my time. It usually takes me longer to complete the regions because of the insane amount of enemies.

[visual grotto]

im back from my break with some than axe 50F

[slate matrix]

toula is back

[visual grotto]

yup toula supremacy over here

[slate matrix]

btw you are responsible for over half of toula non 51+ clears

[visual grotto]

yeah i have seen all the stat on the sheet its really cool

[slate matrix]

:D

[steep bramble]

I want to be a toula enjoyer but I am bad at hecate, good stuff chad toula enjoyer 🫡

@slate matrix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDLUzwFaXio 9/15! Got it all recorded too 🫡 Got Sunny Disposition in Erebus and overall good boon RNG. Artemis next probably. My recording is likely very quiet so apologies for that

[steep bramble]

@slate matrix 10/15! Artemis next now fr this time 👍 youtube video currently processing, will link when it is ready

Just realized HP bar can't be seen. 70/175 HP, lost 2 DDs during phase 2 Chronos, used Pin and Trusty Shield during 1st. Also used toula 🫡 TOULA SUPREMACY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_62TkmHlt4 Here is the video 👍

[steep bramble]

@slate matrix Nevermind about Artemis. I am bad at blades. 50F Medea of the Night*. 11/15, Youtube VOD uploading at the moment 🫡

[slate matrix]

bro is cranking them out jesus

and to think this all started with a charon on reddit xD

[steep bramble]

that reddit post was the rabbit hole

unfortunately at this point i now have mel torches, pan, artemis and persephone. 2 of them I think will be alright, the other two are pan and mel torches (my worst aspects)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfXFBYUHv18

[south monolith]

The* worst aspects

I have a really cooked Mel torches arcana/strategy if you want it though.
It works pretty decently

[steep bramble]

yeah that sounds great 🫡 you can send it whenever because my brain is fried from playing all evening so not doing it at the moment. thank you medea master

[shy pond]

Got the funny combo of "I attack 2 times and use 5 magic to do so, but each of THOSE attacks heal 4 magic so actually I'm restoring 3 when I attack" and honestly after an eternity of not playing the game it feels good to go back again.

[empty snow]

I tried a cast only run (I had the red dress all the way through but lost it right before chronos T-T)

[ornate creek]

An old Engagement Ring run (so I can share in #h2-discussion ):

[neon nebula]

X3 affluence Golden Rule

[glossy goblet]

Time to try for 50...

[ionic swan]

welcome

[steep bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-jordan-belfort-leonardo-di-caprio-one-of-us-jonah-hill-gif-5441859

[slate matrix]

good luck my friend, i will be waiting

[mild kindle]

Is there a reason you did 47 beforw 50? Personally i would have just spent that time doing 50s

[steep bramble]

just lost phase 2 chronos with mel torches

pain

[visual grotto]

mel axe 50F without hera this time

[steep bramble]

@slate matrix 12/15 🫡 @south monolith thank you for the offer but I decided to bang my head through the brick wall. YT video soon

also lol 69 hehe

[slate matrix]

thats 12, 15 soon?

get that page for yourself before patch 5?

[steep bramble]

I am thinking that since this game is witch themed the major update must be near Halloween, so that is the plan

[south monolith]

Oh oops I forgor anyway lol.
I'll still post it when I'm on anyway ig for people who want to play this garbage for some reason

[steep bramble]

yeah i need to check my attempts on this one because this one was a doozy. ngl though once i got the build going i had two phase twos today before getting this now

and no worries, thank you again 👍

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEfSJXFfIX8

[opal crown]

my fastest chronos kill so far!

[glossy goblet]

I did spend time trying to do 50 and wasn't getting out of erebus, so I took off the onion vow to get 47 completed

[slate matrix]

i might unironically add this to the sheet whatever it is. Mel torches are just miserable

[visual grotto]

charon axe 50F with a lot of different gods

[lofty oriole]

Nice one 👏

Just did a Charon 46F. Getting there...slowly 😅

[velvet carbon]

i’m gonna be real i have no idea how to not die a painful death with charon so you are better with it than me

[lament helm]

Joining the Charon train. decided to play h2 again after a long absence. Idk how I managed to play fear 32 and get boreal gust each time but yeah

[zealous elk]

the game surely do not want someone to pass game... get +20% from enemy, after each encounter, it will grow more...

[ebon night]

That will stop happening after a certain number of attempts, or if you are under 50% hp after killing bosses

[empty snow]

First 32 F clear (Not even closeeeeee)

[last goblet]

Ive finished my first 20 fear run. I was running than axe with an apollo attack, I maxed out enemy dmg and gave a timer. forgot to get my victory screen. I was doing insane dmg with my attacks.

[slate matrix]

werent you just asking for advice on how to beat it? Congrats!

[last goblet]

I am, and im proud of my success, going through surface with same stuff now to get the next statue lol

[last goblet]

it was just a 1 fear run for a nightmare, but by god this torch build is WILD

[still wave]

not a victory boast but this is the only channel I could think of where I can send a screenshot... can someone please tell me what that icon means???

[lofty oriole]

I find it really hard to leave Erebus if I have revenants and blue hearts on tbh. Without them, I can just spam cast omega special over and over in one spot 😂

[lofty oriole]

Are you using Aspect of Artemis or Persephone?

[still wave]

artemis

[lofty oriole]

Ah that means your Riposte effect is ready.
When that icon flashes you can charge your Omega Attack and whilst that’s charging, if an enemy hits you, you don’t take damage. Then for the next second you’re invincible and the next 9 hits have a 50% crit chance

[last goblet]

that icon is also reused for a few other aspect effects, like it tells you your current crit bonus chance on thanatos

[still wave]

ohhhhh

okayyy

[wintry marsh]

We got him!

[steep bramble]

Good stuff 🫡 first of many

[velvet carbon]

massive W

i find it really funny that chronos’s time slow also slows him with temporal fluctuation

[wintry marsh]

Yeah it is kinda funny lol

[wintry marsh]

Back to back!

[steep bramble]

@slate matrix 13/15 🫡 I am a dirty Preserved Hope abuser. Bought two in Erebus. YT video soon. HOMESTRETCH

[steep bramble]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu9AafpHrcs

[empty snow]

Didn't know where to post this but SAY IT WITH ME NOT EVEN CLOSEEEEEE

Died in the 2nd oceanus encounter T-T

[steep bramble]

fellas, i have one minute with pan about to face chronos. dont got king tide, got static shock, white antler and poseidon...winnable?

nvm

[steep bramble]

@slate matrix 14/15!! ONE MORE TO GO 🫡 Traditional Pan too, ngl this was easier than Artemis for me. Persephone left!

Youtube video soon as well, gotta take a break

[visual grotto]

50F than axe

[random sleet]

Hell yeah! Persephone felt like it took forever compared to the other two skulls, but you got this 🫡

[steep bramble]

Thank you 🫡 I tried Persephone before going for the two blades just now. Not going great so far but think I got it figured out hopefully. Gonna go for it now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laAKb31C7m0

[slate matrix]

gl my friend

[steep bramble]

thank you loremaster

[slate matrix]

when did i become loremaster

what is a loremaster

[steep bramble]

idk because you keep track of everything

i thank you once again for that spreadsheet among everything

[slate matrix]

glad to hear that my efforts payed off

[zealous elk]

even though no heat, but got only 3 monster hit ??? and each for only maybe 1 hit ?

[wintry marsh]

Just putting this here because I can't post pictures anywhere else

[last goblet]

I got a GREAT thanatos axe run with great boons ((no fear, just felt like rushing chronos shop in hopes of nightmare))

[velvet carbon]

holy hammers

[gloomy glen]

shinys

(was really funny, went to a aphro/apollo room hoping for the duo since its on my fated list still, only thing aphro gave me was a replacement for lucid sprint, then appolo gave me lucid sprint back

[velvet carbon]

no sunny dispo is rough

[lofty oriole]

Not a boast but Nemesis really needs to step up smh 😂

[velvet carbon]

seems like a boast to me

[tired pike]

Finally beat 50 fear with aspect of Charon but forgot to get the victory screenshot. Does this count?

[velvet carbon]

huge ggs (i could never play charon for some reason) but also rest in peace

i think you do need the screenshot

[slate matrix]

do you have the steam recording beta active by any chance or some recording or anything

because i do need a victory screen to upload onto the sheet

[tired pike]

Ah ok I'll just do it again and get back to you in a couple of days

[velvet carbon]

if you do it once you can definitely do it again i think :)

[slate matrix]

oh 100%

the hardest part of 50F is getting that first clear

[tired pike]

Yeah i had another run earlier where i got Chronos to 1 hit but choked

[velvet carbon]

funny the hardest part for me was clearing with an aspect that doesn’t just play the game for you (than axe and moros)

(i have not cleared with an aspect that doesn’t just play the game for me)

[slate matrix]

i mean don't get me wrong, huge congrats on the clear! Its just for the purposes of tracking with the sheet I do need some kind of victory screen as proof since its a lot easier for a variety of reasons

[velvet carbon]

sorry didn’t mean to sound rude or anything

[slate matrix]

i have no idea what you’re referring to but all good (?)

[velvet carbon]

ok cool it was just me

[ionic swan]

@slate matrix Judgment Charon

That's enough for me for now

[slate matrix]

THE RETURN OF THE KING (and hes gone)

[ionic swan]

AHAH

[ionic swan]

@slate matrix Judgment Mel Axe

[slate matrix]

ah dashing heave

[ionic swan]

For some reason Dying Wish is called Engagement Ring on the damageinflicted

idk if that's a visual bug? Considering I've had Dying Wish since Erebus

[south monolith]

been a bug since last patch

[ionic swan]

til

I'll just do Than now then go back to being dormant

[slate matrix]

lmao

the king returns and hes gone

[steep bramble]

@slate matrix 15/15 🫡 I am OK at Hades II I think. YT video soon. Holy [REDACTED] I hate this aspect but I DID IT

[slate matrix]

YO LFG NICE

[south monolith]

the people who hate persephone the most didnt actually use the aspect
maybe if you actually used the aspect it would of been a bit easier

[steep bramble]

yeah you're probably right. unfortunately head meet wall

I can now at least figure out good builds for it now since I don't need to worry about next update. The last aspects I did today were my worst aspects (Pan I got lucky)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp9NrvTkFHo time to rest 🛌

[slate matrix]

you made it, congrats

[steep bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/revive-hes-alive-bring-back-to-life-bring-back-from-the-dead-alive-gif-16308874

i am part of the big kids table now. GGs 🫡 and thank you again for that reddit post + spreadsheet. this is not the end ofc

[slate matrix]

welcome to the high table XD

[ionic swan]

@slate matrix ight gg, Than Judgment

[ionic swan]

@steep bramble grats on 15 btw

[gloomy glen]

what arcana are you using for that?

am trying to think of what 8 grasp worth of arcana would be

[south monolith]

Eternity + Huntress + titan is my best guess but seems kinda odd to not run rolls at all but ig Mynt just hits those RNG checks

[ionic swan]

I usually grab Eternity and then match something else, though I did forego it when I played Charon. I find the early dds are just comforting to have

Charon took me 4 tries though, so you're still a bit of a slave to RNG

[steep bramble]

Thank you! Off topic that pokedex tracker that you have is sick 🫡 would have no patience for that

[ionic swan]

fair, thanks

[frozen gorge]

Not too shabby! Slowly getting through these testaments, hehe. My Hex did 99% of the work during Chronos.

Ik people post high fear clears here but I'm pretty proud of this!

[velvet carbon]

lunar ray my beloved also this is still a victory boast

[visual grotto]

charon 50F

[wintry marsh]

First clear with the Sister Blades

[cedar pagoda]

Up or Down?

[wintry marsh]

Down, and at Fear 1

[south monolith]

up doesn't currently have a victory screen

[cedar pagoda]

Fair lol, still need the Mount Olympus

But then again Who will be the Surface Final Boss? Corrupted Zeus?

[daring charm]

No fear, but first Chronos kill at full health

[tired pike]

It's almost definitely gonna be Typhon

Got my second 50 fear clear and actually remembered the victory screenshot this time!

[daring charm]

Trying for my first 50F clear right now, any tips?

[slate matrix]

AYE congrats! Would "Najart" work as the name on the sheet?

[frozen gorge]

Need the 4th zone for that, and like Najart said, will almost certainly be Typhon, since he's a massive Titan guy

[ionic swan]

What're you trying to do it on ?

[daring charm]

Than axe

[ionic swan]

Than Axe is really flexible, so you might need to focus on making sure it does enough damage as you go along, since it has scaling issues

Hera Strike and ensure the hammers you find are for attack speed or big chop, whirlwind builds take too much time in 50F

they only really work if you find the hammers for them, and you'd usually only take Psychic Whirlwind if none of the better ones are on the same hammer offering

[daring charm]

Oh ok, I have been trying to make whirlwind work all day, and only made it past Hecate once bc timer (on a run with Hera attack and psychic whirlwind, and still ran out of time during Hestia fight and had to tank, died in Oceanus) Thanks for advice!

[south monolith]

Using Whirlwind is workable but generally attack spam is just better 👍
Whirlwind is a lot better than some of the other aspects just in general anyway

[ionic swan]

You can make it work, for sure, just that it requires more effort to do so

if it's your first time, probs try to stick to the tried-and-tested stuff, then experiment when you're more comfortable with stuff in high fear

[daring charm]

What if I don’t roll Hera but get offered an attack boon from like Apollo or Demeter or someone like that? Is it still worth taking?

[ionic swan]

Best go Arctic Ring if you find Dem, the damage boost on it isn't enough for chunkier enemies

for Apollo, he does more damage to single targets than Hera and has amazing range, but the main issue in high fear for newer players is how fast you clear rooms, having Hera asap alleviates that issue, especially with Axe swing arcs being wide at base

so imo just start with her Fan

[south monolith]

Are you not running god keepsake to start?

[daring charm]

I am running god keepsakes at start, but sometimes artifice gives me a boom from a different god before I run into my chosen one, or my chosen one doesn’t give me an attack boon

[south monolith]

This is why you run 10 rerolls so you don't get boomed by RNG

as for getting a boon from arti, just take a good option its probs not worth taking a different attack

[daring charm]

Fair enough

[ionic swan]

Want us to VC while you do the runs? We can probs give you some tips as you go

[daring charm]

Not at the moment, but I’ll consider it, thank you for the offer

[ionic swan]

Sure

What was the highest fear you've done before your 50 attempts btw ?

[south monolith]

But yeah arti boon room 2 you just take something okay. Dem has arctic ring (genuinely top 3 boon in the game), apollo you can just click sprint for easy daze application (sprint speed is decent)
Early Heph is kinda unfortunate, I usually roll once just on the off chance RNG blesses me and hands me Mint/Trusty but otherwise just click special. Zeus also just click special usually if that early but Cast is ok and Gain is clickable incase you get like Exe chop. Poseidon is ass it is what it is. Aphro is fine dash/cast are both good. Hestia is usually just cast. I'm forgetting a god or two I think idk but you get the point

[ionic swan]

Aphro's more preferable on Mel Axe for the most part, but she's helpful

[south monolith]

idk I disagree, Mel axe suffers more from Rebuke than Than you just want Hera attack.
You can get single target in so many other ways

[ionic swan]

Passion Rush is better on Mel Axe since you prefer to Dashing Heave spam, I don't really care for Flutter Strike

[south monolith]

oh ok
yeah

[ionic swan]

yeah, Flutter Strike is only really good on Axe if Rebuke is off imo

[daring charm]

32, which felt incredibly easy (did it first try, played quite a bit of H1), 50 fear feels about similar in difficulty to the first time I played 32 heat in H1

[ionic swan]

Might need to do 40 first imo

jump from 32 to 50 is kinda massive, we kinda did them incrementally at first

back in patch 2 we were struggling on 45s, and that had CG Earth spam

[south monolith]

eh jump to 50 isn't that bad imo 50 is not super hard atm
Vows have gotten nerfed and other stuff has gotten buffed

[daring charm]

Fair

[ionic swan]

I think it is if it's from 32, personally. If it's from 40 to 50 then you kinda know what to expect

slowly removing the advantages or giving enemies advantages takes a bit to get used to

[daring charm]

I’ll try 40, but I just don’t really know what I should turn on for it, like do I make it as hard as possible (5 mins, max damage, max speed, etc), or do I try to make it easier, which could sacrifice practice for 50

[ionic swan]

are you practicing for 50F ?

[south monolith]

idk I just turn off commotion revs and onion cuz those are cringe

[ionic swan]

if so, turn on max enemy spawns, max enemy HP, timer, Rebuke, because you'll need to deal with chunkier enemies already, get used to being hyper aggro to clear rooms asap

[daring charm]

I want to do 50F, and so if I do a 40F run it would hopefully be a way to practice for 50F

[ionic swan]

then ye, max commotion, max enemy HP, 5 min timer

[daring charm]

Ok, I’ll try that

[ionic swan]

your main thing to practice is clearing rooms asap while having a good build up

[daring charm]

So how do you consistently get a good build when the game can just decide to only give you commons (I am sorry if I am asking too many questions, just trying to learn as much as possible)

[ionic swan]

You can use rerolls on boss doors to try to get a god that helps you out

[south monolith]

This is why Boatman is the one true path to happiness

[ionic swan]

Nothing is guaranteed, but try to influence it a little, that way you either have some of the gods you need by the time you beat Hecate so you can run Heph keepsake in Oceanus

or you have everything you need in terms of core and can just run pin or something else

[ocean dagger]

Extended discussion like this is best for #h2-builds-and-combat by the way

[ionic swan]

oops

[daring charm]

Sorry

[ocean dagger]

No worries, you can always just move channels

[empty snow]

I hereby deem aspect of pan to not be absolute doo doo

5k per omega special lmfao

[brisk lion]

my first and only clear

its first clear man this stuff is just being lucky

[daring charm]

Yoooo

[empty snow]

yea ikr spiral knives went insane

I just wish I tried it in high heat instead build was busted

[daring charm]

It should still be buffed though imo, it can be basically unplayable early game without a good gain boon

I just miss Chiron bow, it was so fun

[empty snow]

Idk just get flutter flourish I was doing like 100 damage per normal special

in high heat early game is very aids tho I agree

[empty snow]

IKR Bro I mained that in h1

Just haha machine gun go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrr

[daring charm]

Yeah, high heat early game is always aids though, not just pan (although it’s definitely one of the worst)

[empty snow]

Fr the only exception I can think of is than axe with apollo

and even that becomes aids when you're at 45+ heat

[daring charm]

Trying to do 50 fear rn with than axe, can confirm early game is aids

[slate matrix]

pan in general struggle due to this reason in high fear and also why a lot of us thought pan wasnt really viable to play as the aspect until we were proven wrong

[empty snow]

damn o7 I've gotten to chronos phase 2 like 4 times with than axe in 40 heat and I just keep choking

[slate matrix]

save state practice the fight if chronos is the main chokepoint

[empty snow]

I just keep forgetting

anyways time to try pan in 40 heat

[daring charm]

How save state?

[empty snow]

died in room 6

[daring charm]

Real

[tall axle]

haven't been able to play in a while and DYING for the new update but this was fun

[visual grotto]

than 50F

[steep bramble]

That chaos attack must have went so hard

[gloomy glen]

my first success at 40F as i work my way up to 50F runs, this is use the hardest vows still just as practice without full punishment

i got silly lucky with boons this run

i had storm strike, lance and double strike going into hecate

oh forgot to show the 80% cast damage for free from room 1 chaos gate that gave me a no-punishment epic "don't special for 5 rooms then get 80% cast damage"

[gloomy glen]

(because this is the only place i can actually post it and we were talking in discussion about my probably subpar build)

[steep bramble]

No Lovers is crazy, respect

[white pebble]

Well done shakes hand

[fading plover]

LMAO, W GLITCH.

[static shuttle]

Me and some friends did some races

[last goblet]

my beloved aphro/apollo thanatos axe build

[fading plover]

Thanks mommy!!

[rigid wave]

managed 50f!

[rigid wave]

was running this arcana too, strength really just pulling its weight, even if lovers is sad to give up on

felt like a dead run, too. especially as it was my first 50f run that even made it into the fields, and i did that with 0 death defiances left

[gloomy glen]

Were you running that one or with the change from VI to III i made

[rigid wave]

I was still running furies. which in retrospect might be a mistake?

[visual grotto]

50F eos

[fading plover]

Accidentally won again just trying to get resources.

No hammer.

[slate matrix]

HOLYYYYYYYYYYYYY CONGRATS!

how would you like your name on the sheet? (assuming you're fine with it)

[rigid wave]

It'd be more than fine, and thank you
Just 'The Softies' works fine. well, without the marks

[fading plover]

1 fear is basically 50

[gloomy glen]

Another Strength crew on the sheet

[fading plover]

what about me 😢

[rigid wave]

not being tracked at the moment i don't think

[rigid wave]

gratz on getting the clear!

those early clears when i had only beaten him once or twice felt really good

[gloomy glen]

Dont care, soon i will be too. Was so close this morning

[fading plover]

I was just gathering flowers tbh.

It doesn't feel as good when it isn't your first save.

[rigid wave]

fair i guess

i'll probably be starting my save over when they add a hell mode-equivalent? or just next patch if there's new story content

[fading plover]

That soon?

I will once 1.0 drops.

But that'll be a few decades.

[rigid wave]

we'll see, not sure yet

[fading plover]

Probably July 18th next year

at 3:25 pm

Can people start speedrunning 100% a save file already?

That came out really weird.

But i don't care to fix it because i am mr.chilledoutguy.

[rigid wave]

my first 32 fear chronos kill from a long while back. it's fun to see the boons i prioritized back then, having not yet started looking into what's good and just feelscrafting it

[fading plover]

Not even 55???

[south monolith]

So true

I'm tired of these SCRUBS posting these LAME victory screens. Not even 89F, blindfolded playing with one hand on a wii remote how can these people even CALL themselves GAMERS

[fading plover]

Bet they have pets on too.

[ionic swan]

Reminds me that I have a Wii nunchuk and a censor for my PC for Dolphin gameplay, I'll be doing Nunchuk + Mouse gameplay

[fading plover]

Ok babe, chill.

[brave vortex]

imma count this as a victory, I finally compelted the get all duo boons prophecy, even got the last two on the same surface night, only about 120 runs in

[zinc crown]

FR

I LOVE PLAYING 269 FEAR

[visual grotto]

moros 50F(im still really slow with this weapon)

[gloomy glen]

Im coming for that first 50f, best hecate clear so far

[ionic swan]

How'd it go ?

[gloomy glen]

…died to cerb

Felt like i misplayed a bunch. Have an appointment then gonna try again. Am getting closer

Im still not nearly good enough at using the block

[ionic swan]

Block is crucial and all, but I try not to against Cerb

Best just get out of the way, because groundslams mostly bypass shield blocks

[gloomy glen]

Ye i just went into cerb with only like 80 health, took a lot of damage off especially the bomb throwers

[ionic swan]

good effort tho, you'll get it next time

[steep bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/you-got-this-gif-8555631

[slate matrix]

good luck my friend

[tired pike]

Yes, sorry for the delay

[visual grotto]

mel axe 50F

[slate matrix]

yeah this weapon kinda broken

[fading plover]

If only i would actually use it.

[empty snow]

FIRST 40F LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

after 4 failed chronos p2 attempts T-T

[zinc crown]

This is my kind of bulid

[fading plover]

Yo chronos where you at on the most damage? lil bro.

+2 lotus

[slate matrix]

NICE

[fading plover]

Thank you

[empty snow]

Thank you

[random sleet]

How many skips as a rule of thumb on 50 fear makes for an erebus that most aspects can clear? The spawns are of course going to play a factor, but I feel like any less than 3 skips, and it's just not gonna happen.

[gloomy glen]

3-4 minimum ive found, depends on the rooms that get skipped

also depends on minibosses since thats are faster then any normal room

so if your skips take your two chances at miniboss sucks a little

i try again. ive died to chronos twice now, decided to switch to mel staff for a break, this run got funny

okay chronos

i think the game has decided i had enough

[slate matrix]

if you count midshop and arachne as skips, then 3-4 on average, though with enough skill i think charon and moros can always make it out without any additional skips

[south monolith]

If we are counting Arachne and Midship all you need is Arachne and Midship for most aspects. Focus on playing faster and taking less damage, 3 DDs can let you tank timer for 9 years in Hecate if worst comes to worst.

Blaming losses in Erebus on not getting a million skip rooms isn't going to help you.

[gloomy glen]

I dont really thinking “blaming” is a good word for it. Yes you can if good enough even at 50f to do so but im not yet, i cant reliably win at 40f if im two+ dd down after hecate. Is a skill issue yes but like, needing support of “hoping for at least one chaos/nem/artemis” isnt that big?

[slate matrix]

What Foolish is moreso referring to is actual clear potential. Every aspect can clear Erebus when played well without needed any other skip outside of midshop and arachne, but thats not possible for the majority of players. If it makes you feel better, statistically Lethal Snare is just one Artemis boon with a presence of 25% across 465 clears, so the actual # of just Artemis encounters alone is closer to ~40-50%. This isn't even including any Nem or Cocoon rooms, so most runs do utilize some sort of skip outside of the 2

[gloomy glen]

Ye, but like idk “million skips” felt like a weird callout when the answer people gave was 3-4

[south monolith]

When you phrase it in ways like "3-4 minimum" it implies that an aspect is impossible to clear without skips, which is just not true. I just don't like the assumption a lot of people make that 50F is super RNG heavy, when it really isn't

[gloomy glen]

I guess? Minimum probably wasnt a word needed becayse i really just meant arachne/shop + 1 + like a midboss

[slate matrix]

its really a perception thing, when you first get into 50F it feels super RNG heavy because Erebus is such a time crunch for people new and still struggling with the difficulty

As you play more and more, theres a lot of small improvements you can make that makes the timing window a lot more forgiving

[south monolith]

I just don't like the mindset people develop about it

I've seen it a few times where people aren't thinking "How can I improve to save some time/health for timer damage" and instead go "Man if I just got more skips"
I just think it's an unhealthy mindset to have.

[slate matrix]

thats fair

[gloomy glen]

Thats fair, just not how your initial message came accross which felt much more… elitist. For lack of a better word. That is where im trying to improve, not taking silly damage (i do a lot, its why im on strength, i take way too much damage in room, its a crutch but also it feels good) and trying to get faster at especially worms and hippos. But right now if i dont get either good luck on boons or two skips (and i include mini bosses as a skip) past the base 2 both for their bonus power, easy clear and time i cant do it yey

[slate matrix]

nah all good, strength ftw btw strength + weak + origination :) the antithesis of everything foolish stands for

[gloomy glen]

Im getting more consistent tho. Ive now had three runs in a row that made it out of erebus with at least 1dd make it to chronos…

[slate matrix]

[gloomy glen]

Erebus is just also the easiest way to reset to get the power i feel i need to progress the later areas

Which… is probably why i am struggling so much in fields

I dont do it enough cause i reset before then so need practice on non-power runs

[slate matrix]

try taking droplet

[gloomy glen]

I do usually

For axe/staff ive been going, hera,heph,droplet, pin most attempts

Issue is just skill, i take too much damage/not good at pathing to fast kill when enemies spawn at peripherals

[zinc crown]

Wtf man

[prime quarry]

First attempt at speed running with 8 fear. I was trying to make the attack stronger, and I did with aphrodite's attack, a couple of attack percent boosters, daedalus hammer for final sequence to hit twice, and another boon that increases damage by 10 percent for every 100 in health. Through the run though, I somehow also increased my health by a lot, along with reduced damage by Hephaestus and wispy wiles dodge chance

[gloomy glen]

idk if i have enough infusions, also its weird that chaos boon doesnt get rarified by proper upbringing

all it took was the most overpowered run ive ever had

[slate matrix]

and thats another, congrats!

[ionic swan]

Gaming

[gloomy glen]

this run was silly. Getting double elementaly particles is uh… really good

[slate matrix]

welp, as always does "Elliemental" on the sheet work for you?

[ionic swan]

Grats on the W

[gloomy glen]

[ionic swan]

Answer dm pls

[gloomy glen]

It does feel like 2x is a fitting first win for my name tho

[ionic swan]

2x?

Just realized you have 500 HP jfc

[gloomy glen]

I got elementary particles twice this run cause hestia hit it

[south monolith]

with frosty veneer

[ionic swan]

When do I get that luck

[south monolith]

idk bro
keep looking

[gloomy glen]

Also because nem was a jerk. My echo room that might have given me a third hammer was nem with 50hp

[ionic swan]

Also you did it on what is considered a pretty bad weapon, so it's still good

[south monolith]

Staff is weird

[ionic swan]

Staff was better in patch 3 when Mirrored didn't cost anything, so was low effort to build around

[south monolith]

idk if it's actually bad for 50F anymore
It's just RNG reliant I think
It is one of the easiest 50F's actual gameplay wise if you actually get one of the good hammers

[gloomy glen]

Ive been struggling to find a favorite weapon. I like staff but it does just feel weak without specific stuff. Getting early slow cooker helped

[south monolith]

it's a pretty safe weapon with good range and its pretty fast
It's just weak hitting which is what makes it hardish ig
If you get wicked or Mirrored it tends to be a fairly chill run I think

[gloomy glen]

Yeah, it does have busted hammers

[ionic swan]

Haven't done patch 4 non-Axe runs yet, do you just go Hearth Gain with Mirrored now ?

[south monolith]

you just click a gain

Hearth gain is best but like born/ionic/lucid is fine
Glamour isn't strong enough but tranquil isnt even that bad with it

[ionic swan]

Worth a try for me later ig

[gloomy glen]

Probably go back to mel axes now… then medea skull or mel blades

[empty snow]

getting some INSANE rng on pan rn

unfortunately no hook knives on 3rd hammer

nvm I got echo right after hammer room we might get hook too

BOYS WE GOT HOOK KNIVES

Tested damage on cerb and I'm doing 7k per o special (without using death since I forgot to o cast before o special)

got an axiom gate in the rest room before tart time to gamble for another flourish boon

I got another flourish

[ionic swan]

Update your game

[frozen gorge]

?

[ionic swan]

Cureent patch is like .95200 or something, no?

[empty snow]

is it?

[ionic swan]

I think that's still patch 3 or something lol

[frozen gorge]

oh i have no idea

[empty snow]

ah alr I'll have to update then

anyways I beat chronos

[ionic swan]

Nice

[empty snow]

took me a total of 5 clicks

[ionic swan]

I have the game set to autoupdate so I never really have to remember

[empty snow]

anyways time to flex the insane rng I got

[ionic swan]

Nice

[empty snow]

chaos was too kind lol

also I checked I am on the latest patch

[ionic swan]

You sure? I'm on .95285 on both Steam and Epic on check

[empty snow]

ah alr I just checked by looking at the patch notes channel

[ionic swan]

Are you offline on Steam or smth ?

[frozen gorge]

Excuse me but are you pirating the game?

The patch notes channel doesn't have patch numbers

[ionic swan]

Oh lol

[frozen gorge]

Steam will 100% tell you if the game has updates, Epic too I think? There's no way you didn't know

[ionic depot]

First win and first run with charons axe this thing feels amazing

[velvet carbon]

wait wromg one

blast from the past

(the run took 19 minutes because i took 5 tart side rooms for fun)

also had dual moonshot

[austere lava]

I love momus special spam when my special knocks foes out of range!

[velvet carbon]

IKRRR

[austere lava]

at least its not too bad on bosses ig lol

[velvet carbon]

i had a decent backup plan of spam island getaway oattack when not fighting bosses

[ruby oasis]

Let’s go I got 24 fear Lim and Oros testament

[fading plover]

W

[ruby oasis]

Thanks

[fading plover]

SHINYYY !!!

[rigid wave]

gratz, that looks like a nice run!

[ruby oasis]

Thanks!

[rigid wave]

flame strike + arctic ring + freezer burn is always delightful

[ruby oasis]

Frr

I was trying flutterstrike+volcanic flourish before as the entire build and it was not working out lol

[rigid wave]

fair.attack is just such a massive part of damage on all the knives unless you manage to build heavy into special on pan

[ionic swan]

And it's still level 1, too. You'll enjoy it a lot more as you level it up

[fading plover]

pb fear baby 🗣️ no dd losses too. Not my greatest time but tis to be expected.

[fading plover]

Yeah it felt amazing for me too.

[tough gale]

totally balanced weapon

[fading plover]

Real

[austere lava]

does weed killer effect the explosions? or was that just for heartthrobs

because I thought the explosions counted as normal attacks

[tough gale]

If huntress/heart gain work with omega explosions I figured it would

Moros does so much dmg is hard to notice lmao, and as you said, still helps for hearttrobs

[austere lava]

yeah

[last goblet]

2 rooms in, its gonna be a good one

[last goblet]

man the dmg went crazy, I also finally got my close call hermes boon for the prophecy lol. another of my funni no fear runs, even got to buy a nightmare

[empty snow]

Golden rule go BRRRRRRRRRr

it was a total of 180% more damage with the amount of gold I had

[ionic swan]

Still haven't updated huh?

[zinc crown]

Which gods make that?

[ionic swan]

[zinc crown]

Got ir

[daring charm]

First 40F clear, on the road to 50F (I love psychic whirlwind)

[fast chasm]

Just cleared the underworld with the twin flames. I had like seven Zeus boons when I took Queens Ransom.

[south monolith]

I'm so washed fellas 😭

@slate matrix

also shoutouts most worthless E-Part to ever exist 🔥 🔥 🔥

[fading plover]

💀

[fast chasm]

Did a double take after that. "Does it really say level 31 ?!"

[gloomy glen]

Deleted 7 zues boons

[fading plover]

Level 31!!!!