h2-discussion

[gloomy tulip]

sounds about right lol

also rq just wanna say good god man I love this game so much I played hades 1 close to launch and have been a massive fan since but I just now got to finally play the game

[eager pecan]

if you fill up the second page (I'm pretty sure it's impossible in the game as is) it just goes off the edge lol

[gloomy tulip]

I mean what if you have echo's keepsake

and js keep it on the whole run

[eager pecan]

echos keepsake only triggers once

[reef sail]

Only fires one time

[gloomy tulip]

oh lmfao oops my bad

only skimmed through its description

[fathom lake]

It should have a really low chance but make it able to hit multiple time

[gloomy tulip]

also unrelated but I just killed chronos in 1 minute and 1 second

for my 2nd win

[buoyant matrix]

fun fact: the game can't make a third page for boons so if you cheat in enough to fill a third, after you win the run the game can't load the victory screen and you'll crash

[gloomy tulip]

💀💀💀

[gritty meteor]

is getting a thalamus just luck based

i want to get black coat and cant get to mount olympus

[reef sail]

It’s luck based but if you’re not going to the place where you get them you’ll never get any

Which is Chaos portals

[gritty meteor]

does chaos keepsake force a spawn in hades 2

or increase chances atleast

[reef sail]

Nope

Pretty sure you’re scripted to get two seeds from Chaos themselves the next time you talk to them after you unlock the incantation

[cursive nacelle]

that convo should at the very least appear within very few runs

[crude dragon]

You only get one seed, but the plant itself gives 2 when harvested

[gritty meteor]

hades 3 where we need to kill chaos when

make it melinoe and (i think) icarus son the protagonist

[open nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/james-franco-the-interiew-movie-dumbstruck-how-dare-you-gif-18440932270275860613

Moros shippers in shambles

[gritty meteor]

the wiki just lists icarus as potential lover

oh it also does with moros that makes sense i guess

[lean bronze]

she has too many children with too many people just like the rest of her family
🗣️ PROTECT ICARUS FROM MELI

[gritty meteor]

wish i knew what any of that means

[brisk bison]

ran into a very silly bug

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849525788005236766/1508246435512979466/6D137F1.MP4?ex=6a14d774&is=6a1385f4&hm=2a009eef332673ba2c55ae32a9c836405897c680daf9eb1cbcd996e7c2847461&

[lean bronze]

if i ran fangs
Does night bloom / sun worship get the vow buffs

[brisk bison]

I... don't think so

Not sure about that tho

[cunning laurel]

woah

[lean bronze]

meli f’s too many people
Icarus is really trusting of her and wants a “human” relationship (no others)

[lean bronze]

awww

[brisk bison]

my guy... you're playing a game about greek mythology and your hot take is that the main character (a greek goddess) f's too many people? buddy........................................

[cunning laurel]

icarus deserves it too

[lean bronze]

i didnt say any of my takes did i
I just listed a fact to help him understand

wait
I cant do an ally only run if i have to beat up something in order to use night bloom

[gritty meteor]

aint that just every greek god

[lean bronze]

yes
“Just like the rest of her family”

[gritty meteor]

does melinoe even exist in actual mythology

[tranquil wren]

yes

[lean bronze]

yes
Not much text about her tho
Theres a video about it on yt

[tranquil wren]

both her and zag have multiple relationships

mel has also clearly stated to icarus that she won't limit herself to just one person and icarus is fine with that

[gritty meteor]

is it worth it

or are greek people just used to being cucks

[worldly mantle]

its just polyamory

[gritty meteor]

chai tea

[last cloak]

i just got 3 runs with possessed array in a row

lost all 3 but ya know

i also got a route 1 shiny pidgey yesterday, full gen 3 odds

my luck is going to everything that doesn’t matter

[somber nimbus]

concave stone took queen's ransom!!!!!!

right after my zeus special got upgraded with bridal glow too

[last cloak]

yup, i know some of those words!

[nova oar]

This is why concave stone is considered one of the worst keepsakes

[somber nimbus]

yeahhhh i can only blame myself really

[crude dragon]

LMAO
lmao
-# lmao

[worldly mantle]

Wdym it's the new c1 meta

[nova oar]

[lean bronze]

i want tk pan

just one run

please

[last cloak]

do i want flat damage or percent damage boons on black coat

[torn wind]

Generally flat damage

[nova oar]

Flat

[last cloak]

ty

[reef sail]

Percent can work on special but mostly flat on both is best

Rip too slow

[last cloak]

👍

[torn wind]

Yeah hera on special is quite strong

Especially with Shimmering Rockets

[last cloak]

this is mel aspect btw

i literally just unlocked it lol

[torn wind]

Generally your build is poseidon/hestia attack + zeus/hera/hestia/poseidon special

You can spam the crap out of rockets in between dash attacks

[reef sail]

Static shock will always go insanely hard on non-hidden coat

[torn wind]

Yeah static is a big one

[last cloak]

is there an objective best flat or percentage boon? or are they all similar in effectiveness

[torn wind]

Hestia attack is technically more damage than poseidon but only if you have a good roll on pyro technique

[last cloak]

which is pyro technique?

[torn wind]

So poseidon and then getting slippery slope is very strong

[torn wind]

increased scorch damage rate

[last cloak]

right

[torn wind]

It's capped to 100/s and Pyro increases it

[last cloak]

so outside of min/maxing builds, just playing casually, before beating the game, is that still the case?

[torn wind]

I mean you can play just about anything tbh

[nova oar]

Yes

[cunning laurel]

everything is good while you play casually

[torn wind]

I've had some goofy builds doing like 40-50 fear that were still plenty capable

[last cloak]

fair enough ty

[torn wind]

Build hunting is only necessary for as much as your skill needs to be compensated for

[reef sail]

scorch without pyro is totally viable for casual play

[torn wind]

It is, especially since without jpom it's very hard to hit scorch cap

[reef sail]

For me scorch is also sometimes more fun than alternatives, seeing the enemy hp bars fill up with scorch preview is dopamine

And it gives you some flexibility to move around the room and spread the love to lots of enemies

[torn wind]

Or I take poseidon and they die from the start and can't hurt me cause they're dead

[reef sail]

Scorch anubis is the king of things dying that you didn’t even know were there yet

[last cloak]

so im a little confused, how does scorch work? is it like hangover from h1?

[bitter stirrup]

Similar but a little different

No matter how much Scorch you apply, it ticks down at a fixed rate, 100 damage per second

With global damage boosts, the Scorch will tick down at the same rate but do more damage

With Pyro Technique the Scorch will tick down faster and do damage accordingly

[last cloak]

interesting

so you apply damage and scorch lasts until it applies all of it?

so say i deal 450 damage, it’ll deal that damage over 4.5 seconds

[nova oar]

Yes

[last cloak]

ok that makes sense ty

also, best of the first 3 cloak aspects?

[nova oar]

Nyx

[last cloak]

that’s what ive been using, ty

without telling me what it is, is the hidden one better?

[nova oar]

No

[cunning laurel]

nope not even close

[last cloak]

good to know

are any of the weapons’ hidden best? just say which weapon but not what the aspect is

[bitter stirrup]

Blades, Axe

[last cloak]

just so i know what to sink resources into and what not to when i eventually get it

[last cloak]

alr ty

this community is so quick and helpful lol

ty guys so much

[lean bronze]

hidden aspects are usually fun cuz of how different they are

[last cloak]

ive only really seen one other game community as quick as this lol, and its not always as helpful depending on who’s answering

unfortunately some of the more knowledgeable people have quite the attitude, and people like me have to be the ones to actually answer the questions

[nova oar]

Which one?

[last cloak]

Hydroneer, indie physics based mining/automation game

[nova oar]

Ah

[last cloak]

there’s some people with encyclopedic knowledge about that game but they’re often a bit snarky

it’s nothing super mean or terrible, just not always helpful

[lean bronze]

allspects 50f
Luthiem have you done it

[nova oar]

Nah lol I did 62f and then mostly quit fear runs, I really don't like playing high fear, i'm a speedrun girl

[gritty meteor]

which god even made black coat

the guns were weird enough for how advanced stuff looks in hades

[last cloak]

yeah i was wondering that myself

like it’s a literal jetpack lol

[lean bronze]

[gritty meteor]

whats the best boons for melinoe black coat attack and special

[last cloak]

ok one more question, is it possible to avoid the hecate morph spell?

[last cloak]

.

[gritty meteor]

yes by avoiding

[last cloak]

well but it homes

[bitter stirrup]

Dash through it 7~ times

[last cloak]

and it’s faster than me

[gritty meteor]

you dodge through until it disappears

[last cloak]

oh i see

[last cloak]

also suraumu i asked the same cloak question earlier

wait can the cloak block the morph?

[nova oar]

No

Coat block is buns, don't use it

[last cloak]

darn

did they just see the shield in h1 and nerf it to the ground or something?

[nova oar]

Yes

[bitter stirrup]

Only Frinos can block the morph now, I think a Phase Shift hex node can also destroy it but I'm not sure about that

Night Bloom/Sun Worshiper servants also used to be able to block it but it was patched out

[last cloak]

yeah i had froggo block it like once

but then i got the bird and then the cat

[ancient stream]

🥺 its so cool though

[reef sail]

It’s usually faster than you but it turns very slowly (the morph ball)

Sometimes it’s just not faster than you which can be fun

[nova oar]

😒

[ancient stream]

what? its a shiny hardlight laser blast thing

you gotta admit its a lil neat

[jolly hound]

You’re both right

[crude dragon]

It's cool visually, but pretty clunky in usage

[lean bronze]

why it isnt good:
Not instant: there is a charging animation, a lethally long one
Directional: you block attacks coming from a rather small cone
Not a shield: doesnt block everything

plus when you release it you are locked in place for roughly one second, again, quite lethal at high fear

you can ofc charge omegas after casting
But at high fear some enemies can straight up ignore it (invinciblity) or only be slowed
coat oatk sucks due to low dmg for the time it needs to be charged and because wards
Plus you wont be using it for blocking this way

no idea why i decided to yap
But here it is

[worldly mantle]

If you want to use oattack on coat there's an aspect for that, otherwise it's not worth touching

It is cool though

[lean bronze]

as a hypocrite i am currently using selene coat focusing on oatk and sky fall while trying to block with oatk

[worldly mantle]

Enjoy that

I would never

[lean bronze]

im only doing 14f so its dirt easy rn
But really, really annoying

[worldly mantle]

im assuming 14f casual not speed

[lean bronze]

yup
Got some chill vows
Maybe i shouldve cranked it up a bit more tbh, i was worried
A bit boring rn

dang i cant type

[worldly mantle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lean bronze]

i got orig and flutter strike going

[worldly mantle]

nice you can deal damage sometimes

[lean bronze]

yo how do i hit jetty

dem give weed killer

[light mango]

Okay guys, I just rewinded the story and had barely seen the credits. I didn't see the epilogue, and now I see I have to play the whole thing again, which is really frustrating. I understand why they added a warning message, but it was quite confusing, especially in other languages ​​(like Spanish) for new players. Do you think they could add the option to play only after the epilogue? It was a game I loved, Hades, it's a shame I won't be able to finish it properly.

[worldly mantle]

If you're on PC you can download a completed save, but i don't think they're going to add any re-do progress options

[light mango]

Im on Xbox, bad luck

[wide wigeon]

its gonna take like 20 more nights you can do it

[nova oar]

'I saw the warning, and still clicked the shiny button anyway'

[light mango]

Hell no lol

[light mango]

Why not add that congratulatory message after the epilogue? I understand it was added in an update, but the message was quite confusing—it said nothing would happen to my story progress after the credits, that I would keep everything, and well, it ruined my story progress xD

[nova oar]

Obv misreaadd it

[wide wigeon]

come on i believe in you

[light mango]

Maybe on god mode and speed ruining, but like 5 hours for that …

[nova oar]

5 hours for less than 20 runs?

[worldly mantle]

Sounds about right for casual paces, assuming all 20 are full completions

That would be 20 15 minute runs

[red fox]

15 rl min run is some speed running time

[worldly mantle]

Depends if you're running rta or igt

If you're running rta, you don't spend time in menus and you avoid taking pause rooms

[wide wigeon]

igt 10mins avg

[worldly mantle]

If you're running it you can take your time in menus or searching fields rooms with Athena and runs can be way longer rt

A 5 minute igt time can be like a 15+ minute rta lol

But an rta run is usually lower

[prime iron]

thats new

[wide wigeon]

joined today wow who would've guessed

[nova oar]

<@&456908176877551658>

[wide wigeon]

I imagine that was amir rao genuinely tryna give away a ps5

[limpid oar]

Amir is giving out a free ps5?!

[real scarab]

He definitely did yea, we blew our chance

[buoyant matrix]

make a collector's edition hades 2 ps5

and make it do the death sound whenever you turn it off

[whole remnant]

i wouldn't mind a ps5

Switch 2 is my fav, Nintendo guy

but we miss some games

[lean bronze]

im not alone

[whole remnant]

Switch 2 is the highest selling console

per time frame

by a long shot

[lean bronze]

i just did a selene oatk sky fall run
And used oatk as a shield instead of just moving away from attacks
Im such a hypocrite

[whole remnant]

plenty of us

[lean bronze]

tho not many playing hades 2 and are also active in the discord

[whole remnant]

yeah because EA was steam so mostly steamdeck players

[lean bronze]

hopefully more switch people play h2
Would be nice to see that side of the community grow
Would you say the games popularity is growing or stagnating?

[wide osprey]

uhh
if any Hades 2/1 devs are reading this I have a question
was mocap used in any part of production or were all animations hand made?

[whole remnant]

when i got it for switch 2 it was already 1.149234873853496589489 whatever and new/fixed ending

had to climb to high fear fast but luckily i was at least doing like 40ish heat in hades

so by the time i hit credits i was on like 16 fear and jumped to 32 quick

did 24/24 32 fear

then moved up to 50 in quick 40/45/50 jump

24/24 at 50

then moved towards 62 and eventually some 65s

way more 62 clears

[lean bronze]

i just did my 24/24 40f
No prior hades or roguelike experience

[whole remnant]

but focused more on aspects i was good at, but i suck mostly axes

so i have 20 62 UW and 18 62 surface

prob gonna do shiva surface soonish

Momus is such a pain put that off

rather do 65s

got 5 65 UW 2 Surface

all staffs/skulls besides Mel Blade TK 65 UW

Staffs and Skulls are my best

when i say staff i mean mel staff and circe

the best two heh

esp at high fear

[woven needle]

Circe staff is the best

[whole remnant]

i mean at high fear i'd say mel staff is best

it has by far most max fear clears

[broken creek]

yeah mel staff is better and its not really close

[whole remnant]

but skulls esp mel skull with parray is crazy

and blades especially Mel/Pan with Trick Knives

but Circe is up there for sure

[nova oar]

Nah, mel is

[whole remnant]

Mel Staff is the universal best and most flexible

[woven needle]

Highest fear I have beaten so far is fear on 3 apscts, might try to hit a higher on, might

[whole remnant]

my 65 mel staff surface clear has sworn strike and heaven flourish

but thermal dynamics

[woven needle]

Oh okay, how do y'all use mell staff then?

[whole remnant]

made it easy to cheese special getting scorch/blitz while dropping smolder ring elsewhere

[whole remnant]

its special is a freaking nuke

activate huntress

[woven needle]

A win is a win

[whole remnant]

dash strike special

[broken creek]

dash attack special combo and just get hera special and zeus attack and everything dies

[whole remnant]

hera is great but apollo/aphro/ares are fine on special too

hera best

Heaven Strike plus one of them is the dream

but like i said versatile

sworn strike/heaven flourish on my 65 surface

with dual and melting

dash strike flurry hitch then dash back and cheese special spam racking up scorch/special/blitz at once

and h-bane

proper uprising but blitz was epic to start

its just so dang versatile

that proper was big too for rare nitro/hasty i had each

only cleared 65f surface twice

then and Parray Mel Skulls

i have a handful of UW 65 clears

working on mel coat UW and persephone surface both 65

so i can change scenary

and not get bored grinding one thing one route

mel skulls my best aspect, but closely followed by persephone/mel staff

then prob circe.... mel coat and morrigan, nyx too i guess just prefer mel coat

and TK slop is easy

but I dont like fishing for it but do have a TK 65 Mel Blade

and 4/4 all blades both ways at 62

morrigan way more fun to play

Morrigan and Supay were my fav to play... but Supay falls off so much just between high mid fear and high fear

[fathom lake]

I think- i accidentally killed Supay
-SG after the patches

[whole remnant]

its still great mid fear even with patches but yeah nerfed too hard

but back doing 32-40 fear Supay/Morrigan/Mel Staff/Circe were my best aspects

Breaker Rush (or like JPom Epic Heat back up or the Nexus approach) plus Zeus on attack or special, hidden helix with poseidon or hestia on the other, poseidon better on special than attack

or 4 second or lower blasts

on attack, take epic but try to pom

those builds were crazy on supay post nerfs, gotta remember to use omega special for all three helixes

but it falls off big time by high fear

damage output too boon dependent

forfeit and debt hurt it bad

[fathom lake]

Supay feels horrible without boons
Like literally not usable

[whole remnant]

plus wards and such

at 62 fear for surface i needed gig dash to clear

[nova oar]

Yeah pretty much

[whole remnant]

yeah not trying it for 65 anytime soon even though its one of my favs

since i got to high fear i prefer skulls mainly Mel Skulls/Persephone

or Mel Staff

but besides axes ill play whatever

20 aspects 62 UW

18 surface

at 62f

missing shiva and momus up top

also have 62 dream dives - mel staff x3(two fromtrying to do the back to back thing dive - uw - surface), circe, mel skulls, persephone, mel coat, morrigan

loved dives for a while, then ran cold

65f only 5 aspects UW 2 surface, 65 is frustrating just flopped a 65 mel coat run

[fathom lake]

SG balancaing be a little hilarious sometimes cuz
Shiva can solo bosses but god forbid Supay does decen damage to enemies boonless

[whole remnant]

so gonna skip up to 65 surface persephone (already have UW 65 Persephone)

[whole remnant]

last time they kinda buff ares but miss key factors, dont buff selene coat but buff artemis which is just a tk slop blade that can parry too

buff hel which i thought was good, better than like mel flames or thanatos

for example

new Hel hasn't picked up steam but it will

isn't married to Poseidon attack anymore with Garmr Gaze+Helheim

but i guess game is balanced for low/mid fear more

[real scarab]

Shiva hits are slow, Supay hits are pretty quick, that's how they're balanced

[fathom lake]

Wow

Mastermind

[whole remnant]

Shiva also takes more skill to use whether you play as it was meant or use dash cancel combat loop

[fathom lake]

I now know everything about balancing games

[whole remnant]

supay just tuckers out

but Supay isn't hard to use even high fear it just... needs an uber build or damage sucks

so its kinda weird spot

easy movement etc, but needs the right boons fast

[fathom lake]

Yeah thats true

[whole remnant]

Shiva 62f UW was a hard clear for me

[fathom lake]

Im so glad they changed Shivas Special

[whole remnant]

partially carried by Epic Smolder Ring and Breaker Rush lol

Scorch was 2nd and rushing 4th

Attack first ofc Flutter Strike

[real scarab]

Not all weapons have to work boonless, they just present different ways to play the game. Supay better than Shiva on high fear anyway, start is rougher but gets way stronger after that

Good luck charging your omegas with Shiva and clearing wards

Or you just have to play dash special attack

[whole remnant]

well easier vs better

supay easier to play, but shiva has cleared max fear

65 probably similar

62 probably more supay

Shiva high fear is just dash cancel attack combat loop with specials thrown in

like maybe get a +3 omega attack in here and there

but does hit hard

but Supay's issue is its dead in the water without specific boons

less flexible than most aspects

at high fear

and i love supay, its my favorite aspect if im not playing high fear

not that Shiva is a high fear meta weapon either

i haven't even got a 62f surface shiva one of two non axe weapons

(hate axes)

[fathom lake]

love axes 🤤

[real scarab]

Yea a lot of aspects have some issues (yet different from each other ) , and they don't have the same power level definitely, bit I think this is mostly fine and it's pretty similar in most other games as well

[whole remnant]

momus is other, its basically playing level one mel staff unless you get a lot of magick good gain and hammers ad such like mirrored thrasher momus is actually a good use of mirrored thrasher

[woven needle]

Beat Cerberus with mel staff and the thing that doubles ur specials, it's good

[woven needle]

Nergal and Than are the only 2 I can use sadly'

[whole remnant]

well its balanced fine for low to mid fear, anything can work, high fear there are more meta weapons ofc but its way more balanced than OG Hades

Zeus Shield for like 60+ Heat

maybe Rama, one Rama max clear

rest Zeus shield

I was an Eris Rail fan

but only played up to like 40f on first one

[last cloak]

#h2-victory-boasting message
just got my first win, thanks in no small part to possessed array

[whole remnant]

Parray is ridiculous

got me my first 65 fear win on mel skulls

[last cloak]

yeah it’s insane

[whole remnant]

and my first 65 surface as well

also mel skulls

my persephone 65 UW was wide grin/looming ignition

skulls have a lot of good hammers, staffs too

options, even if they have the best ones, there are really good back ups

I play mostly Skulls/Mel Staff/Circe

with some Mel Coat and Morrigan, but ill play whatever

[last cloak]

i just realized, i had 4 death defiances left between the cat, tooth keepsake, and echo’s defiance refill, it wasn’t even close lmao

[whole remnant]

those are probably my most used 62+ fear tho

do you have Gale?

[last cloak]

which is that

[whole remnant]

fully upgraded Gale provides way more sustain than the cats DD

Gale is the Polecat

[last cloak]

no

[whole remnant]

fifth spot

[last cloak]

i have up to the dog

[whole remnant]

get Gale and fully upgrade him

[last cloak]

what region?

i don’t want any more info than that

[whole remnant]

uh olympus or summit how about that

[last cloak]

ok ty

i was gonna do some surface runs anyway

also what’s the easiest fear thing, just so i can get used to it

[whole remnant]

but yeah with fully upgrades 6% dodge and movement speed, 3 blocks per region where it comes back and does 400 damage, and ofc the resource based one

[last cloak]

wow

[whole remnant]

idk time 1 or 2 pretty easy

frenzy isn't easy but good to get used to early

[last cloak]

ok gotchya ty

[brave urchin]

So guys, how do I get the "new stuff" from the last patch? Like Heracles in the bath?

[whole remnant]

Hordes isn't too bad to move up too

[brave urchin]

I have played 50 runs and didn´t see anything exapt Dionysis trying to invite Prometheus.

[whole remnant]

well dives from hypnos questline

[brave urchin]

oooh I haven´t started dream dives yet. good to know

[whole remnant]

max relationship with heracles?

[real scarab]

Just keep doing more surface runs and you'll get there

[whole remnant]

thats needed

[last cloak]

gotta love when you still have the tooth equipped but still get the boon you would’ve equipped so you get confused on why it’s not upgrading (ik about the favorite keepsake i just haven’t unlocked it yet)

so does nightmare only appear at the end of a run with fear applied? or is it available during the run

bc while i beat it once, im not sure how replicatable it is

[last cloak]

nvm figured it out

[last cloak]

does someone have a list of which of the 6 weapons are better flat vs percent damage that i could screenshot?

[ebon sigil]

https://www.leereamsnyder.com/hades-2-build-guide

this is better than what you’re asking for because what you’re asking is too simplistic and doesn’t only work that way.

Also with different aspects of each of the six weapons things can change a bit.

[last cloak]

gotchya

well ty ill take a look

i just remembered that someone said there was a way to reset the seed without dying, was that after beating chronos once or however many to beat the game

[reef sail]

It’s not unlocked until after the epilogue

[last cloak]

rip

at least i can boost the enemy damage and speed to quicken the process

[jolly hound]

Knives and coat flat, staff and torches can go either way, skull and axe big %. Blitz is always good no matter what

[limpid stream]

What do people consider the 100% requirements for the switch version

[torn wind]

Except for trick knives

Blitz still good but % damage usually wins for trick knives

Poseidon sucks on TK, scorch cap exists, and blitz is animation limited

So usually Hera, aprho or Apollo are preferable on special with blitz or something else on attack

[bitter stirrup]

Note that with global damage boosts from Arcana Zeus special still theoretically outperforms Hera special on pure damage (if I did the math correctly)

But Hitch on the special is very strong for room clear and I prefer it

[torn wind]

I guess that’s fair yeah

And blitz scaling goes crazy

[uncut basalt]

what gift does demeter give melinoe after beating Chronos? she said "Oh, and here... to keep you warm" but either i skiped it too fast or it didn't show. it looked like learning an incantation, but i didn't get one

ah, it was an incantaion, but for crafting

ambrosia

[last cloak]

tysm

[torn wind]

That was after Typhon but yeah she gives that to you on like your second or third surface clear

[pine jewel]

dumb question im 70h into the game and i realised i dont know what the blue thing that shine at the right of the mana bar stand for someone could tell me ?

[torn wind]

It’s dependent on your weapon aspect

That’s the dial for whatever your weapon aspect’s special effect is

Timer for your parry cooldown on Artemis, timer for nightspawn duration on Nyx, meter for sprouted charge on Persephone, etc

So not every aspect has it

Most don’t

[last cloak]

is there any point in gathering ash once you unlock all the arcana cards?

[torn wind]

You won’t need much for the remaining incantations and such after unlocking arcana cards

You’ll need it for one of the weapon aspects and some other small little odds and ends

But not in any major quantity so you can just go for bones and then buy ashes as needed

[last cloak]

gotchya

so 563 is enough?

lmao why do i have so many

[torn wind]

Because you played the game 🤷‍♂️

[uncut basalt]

probably, you can recycle it into kudos too. (its called kudos right?) the recycle screen will show you an icon if you still need the stuff for something else

[torn wind]

Yeah well they only just got their first clear so that’s not gonna be for a while

It took until like almost true 100% before that indicator finally went away and it was when I finished a relationship with the character that everybody usually gets at the very end

Like 150 hours in

[halcyon rain]

it gives you +5 max hp

bones give +5 max mana, so there's that too, very minor tho

[last cloak]

i haven’t done that incantation so no, they don’t lol

[halcyon rain]

ah

well, it can help

[last cloak]

yeah

[uncut basalt]

im on my second playthought, i didn't finsih the first though. i was over 100 nights but i think i only beat typhon 2 or three times. i restarted thought cause i didn't prioritize nectar, and i realized i wanted to do so. I'm at 61 nights now with 33 clears (including chaos runs) and ive been getting nectar ever night

[hexed steeple]

I personally consider 100% content completion:

• all weapons & aspects maxed
• all arcana unlocked, grasp maxed, card lvl maxed
• all familiars unlocked & maxed
• all keepsakes unlocked
• all cosmetics purchased
• all chaos challenges complete
• all ||hypnos|| challenges complete
• all fear milestone statues unlocked
• all music unlocked in taverna
• full story completion + endgame content
• all fated list entries complete
• red shade conscripted

[tranquil wren]

not all keepsakes upgraded also?

[hexed steeple]

ehh, if you want

[uncut basalt]

lol

[hexed steeple]

I find that most people tend to gravitate towards a few key keepsakes, I have all of them maxed, but I don’t think everyone necessarily needs to do that

[limpid stream]

I think this is a reasonable list. A part of me wants to add “successfully complete each one run with each boon” since the game technically tracks that but that sounds like grinding for the sake of it

I would 100% add the keepsake one though

[hexed steeple]

and you’re free to

[granite wigeon]

hi kids

[hexed steeple]

but the “max all keepsakes” feels like grinding for the sake of it, and I say that as someone who did it lol

[tranquil wren]

easier in h2 than in h1

[granite wigeon]

i agree as someone who hasnt done that

[tranquil wren]

and in h1 it was an achievement

[hexed steeple]

I’m glad they didn’t make it one here tbh

[granite wigeon]

i think there is no point to achievement hunting

[hexed steeple]

because I felt that was just artificial padding with a merit badge attached

[granite wigeon]

especially if achievements are just grinding tasks

[tranquil wren]

all of the achievements in H2 were fun imo. the only grindy one in H1 was max all keepsakes

but I'm biased because I love achievement hunting

[limpid stream]

My counter point is that there is a mechanical difference, and thus an unleveled keepsake is no different then an unupgraded aspect

[granite wigeon]

counter point, most keepsakes are bad

[tranquil wren]

no? most keepsakes are good

[limpid stream]

Being bad doesn’t stop people from leveling up Xinth /lh

[torn wind]

Most keepsakes aren't outright bad just most of them lose a lot of viability past a certain level because there's simply better options

[worldly mantle]

^

[tranquil wren]

the only terrible one is discordant bell

[torn wind]

Why ever use black fleece when lion fang or droplet exists

[tranquil wren]

yeah fleece is a trap

[uncut basalt]

lion fang runs out

[torn wind]

That's why you take it R4

[tranquil wren]

yea but on final region it's fine

because there's not many encounters

[torn wind]

Lion fang = 20% on typhon and 25% on chronos assuming you don't take side rooms in tartarus

And it's global damage

[limpid stream]

I can’t imagine how anyone uses the Artemis one but I’m sure thats a skill issue on me

[torn wind]

Unlike fleece which applies to literally ONLY omega abilities

[tranquil wren]

white antler is like the strongest keepsake

[granite wigeon]

speaking of skill issue

[torn wind]

White antler is quite literally a skill gap keepsake yeah

[granite wigeon]

i figure yall would like to know that i just beat 51 heat guanyu

[worldly mantle]

Yeah pretty much, but for casual play it helps a lot to have armor or blocks like snow queen, lovers or nitro boost

I mean even outside of casual it's nice to have the extra insurance

[torn wind]

Ah yes, Proto Nergal

[halcyon rain]

in this game or in h1?

[tranquil wren]

lol

[worldly mantle]

Or you just have so much damage with white antler that things die before they hit you

[torn wind]

There's an argument to be made for viability of almost any of the keepsakes, even pig.

[worldly mantle]

John Pork is meta wdym

[torn wind]

But some are just outright worse options objectively

[tranquil wren]

yea discordant bell and fleece are the only truly bad picks I can think of

[limpid stream]

I only ever run god keepsakes, jpom, zag card, knuckle bones or tooth am I cooked lol

[tranquil wren]

no jpom is very strong, but timepiece is more preferred to zag card

[worldly mantle]

You're not cooked or you're enjoying the game

[tranquil wren]

but zag card is also very good. I just don't like it because of hubris

[torn wind]

No time piece 🥀

Time piece literal meta

[limpid stream]

If I didn’t want to keep a chamber reward I wouldn’t go into that chamber lol

[worldly mantle]

It's really good but I never use it either

[tranquil wren]

you purge minor rewards

[torn wind]

Minor rewards are a free 200 gold when you don't have artificer left

800 free gold kinda good

Believe it or not

[tranquil wren]

you can also purge gods you don't want in your pool

or onion, if you have forfeit
it's very versatile

[torn wind]

Purge gods you don't want so you can buy more boons in the shop

[limpid stream]

I didn’t think of that

[real scarab]

Purge chaos

[torn wind]

Or purge tonics and poms because jpom makes poms kinda pointless except on like 5 boons

Yeah unless you're on scars 3 chaos is basically free gold

[limpid stream]

They should let me purge coins /j

[torn wind]

I love buying a spark of ixion and then purging chaos to get a net 460 gold literally for free

[tranquil wren]

Gold? Gold!

[hexed steeple]

Still don’t understand why people hate on that thing when Selene’s aspect absolutely dunks on everything when the hex gets properly fed + good hammers + boons

[jolly hound]

Because the hex takes a lot of investment to get up and running like you need ares, two paths of stars, probably something to raise the cost of your omegas

[limpid stream]

Honestly I just needed a weapon to dunk on for the joke to work. I like aspect of shiva

I will say, the aesthetic of the weapon doesn’t quite fit, something the game minimally textually acknowledges

[hexed steeple]

if you take Selene’s keepsake in the first section of the run, you’ll get like +8 to the hex as your first order of business

[jolly hound]

It’s doable for sure but it’s a level 0 Mel coat til you get enough pieces of exodia

[jolly hound]

Yes then you’re giving up your jpom or god keepsake

[hexed steeple]

fair, only saying it’s doable

also, extra doable if you’re getting access to sea star, since Selene boons are 2x eligible

[jolly hound]

Oh for sure it’s doable but for that many pieces to make it sing just gimme the henious affront dream

like I beat 45 fear w all aspects, for Selene I just played it as bad Mel coat and it was fine going with splash punches and blitz special

[hexed steeple]

tbh I think Mel staff is lowkey my favorite weapon, it does what you need it to do

[jolly hound]

Mel staff is goated

Mirrored thrasher go brr

[hexed steeple]

Axe has its moments, pan knives slams, Medea skull is broken and I love it

[hexed steeple]

Mirrored thrasher + Hera attack + Hestia gain

had a run with that two nights ago, it was stanky

got aph’s prime boon on the attack, also had static shock going by the second boss

it was foul

[worldly mantle]

Incandescent aura?

[hexed steeple]

That too

[worldly mantle]

W

[hexed steeple]

it was stupid

[worldly mantle]

Yeah it's a pretty good build

[hexed steeple]

killed scylla so fast someone in the crowd yelled something like “wait, was that it?”

subtitled line and everything

[worldly mantle]

Hera rips sirens apart

[hexed steeple]

I think it was the run right after I had Poseidon mention how often I took sea star only to turn around and give me a heroic sea star

[hexed steeple]

It’s like the only boss where she’s genuinely helpful, her boon isn’t all that good for bosses by and large because you’re dealing with a single target, even the 1v2 Prometheus fight isn’t made all that easier with it

but encounter rooms? Jeebus.

ngl you put hera attack on coat, yowza

that dash attack becomes a straight up pathogen cloud

[cunning laurel]

i like hera for rivals chronos if i dont have deep dissent

[last cloak]

lesgo aspect of medea rank 5

[torn wind]

Yeah it's so good on the tempi and satyrs

[jolly hound]

With jpom Hera dash clears most of Erebus by itself

run around popping balloons simulator

It’s not quite as effective in Oceanus except for the swarms of fish

[last cloak]

in terms of upgrades, is it better to focus my nightmare towards nyx cloak or thanatos axe, i like them equally so im just wondering which is generally more bang for my buck

[torn wind]

Either one honestly 🤷‍♂️ one is an attack speed increase and the other is a damage buff to the tiny rockets and attacks

[last cloak]

yeah

[torn wind]

I just play thanatos as a lawn mower anyways

[last cloak]

meaning fast?

[torn wind]

As getting psychic whirlwind and turning enemies into grass

[last cloak]

gotchya

[last cloak]

also does this game take into account this kind of thing? like i feel like i see more hera/apollo on skull / axe and more hestia/poseidon on knives and cloak

but maybe that’s confirmation bias

[torn wind]

That's what they said

They said that's usually the preferred build

It's not confirmation bias to see something objectively more popular or better

[last cloak]

no like i just get those boons more often

like in the first surface area, more hestia/poseidon with knives / cloak and more apollo/hera on axe / skull

[torn wind]

As far as I or anybody else is aware the game does not have a background process to say "somebody is playing this weapon give them more of these gods"

[last cloak]

just in terms of the reward distribution

[cunning laurel]

nothing like that no

[last cloak]

ok so it’s just confirmation bias

[torn wind]

Cause I've gotten hestia poseidon hephaestus zeus before on a nergal axe run

All of which are antithetical to the point being made

[last cloak]

it probably helps that one of each of those is the first boon i get, and i think ive heard that the game only gives 4 different main boon gods

[cunning laurel]

you see any god until you have 4, then you see only those 4

[last cloak]

what about the first surface area where there’s usually 3 or 4 different gods at the same time

cuz that’s what im mainly talking about

idk

[cunning laurel]

i'm pretty sure you won't see 5 different gods in ephyra

but you can have more than 4, it's just the game tries to prevent it

[last cloak]

idk why im arguing, you guys are almost certainly much more knowledgeable than me

anyway imma get back to my run now

[gritty meteor]

prometheus eagle got harder moves to dodge than prometheus himself

[last cloak]

so real

[whole remnant]

hate the eagle

[gritty meteor]

i always lose the run fighting prometheus

i wonder how hard the father of monsters guy is compared to him

[whole remnant]

easier imo

the rivals fight versions though... depends

I play high fear so I fight the rival versions

[last cloak]

yeah i lasted longer to him than my other prometheus runs (obv i beat him on the run that i got to the father of monsters)

[whole remnant]

62 fear mostly

few 65 fear clears

5 UW 2 Surface for 65 fear

[gritty meteor]

is rival what makes scylla black

[last cloak]

is there a point in the game where you’re neither progressing in in-game ability or skill?

[gritty meteor]

saw it on youtube shorts once

[last cloak]

like end game

[whole remnant]

that depends

you push fear up

as far as you can

[last cloak]

yeah

[whole remnant]

I think im capped out

[last cloak]

but what happens when you can consistently beat max fear?

[whole remnant]

that doesnt exist

[last cloak]

oh

makes sense ig

[whole remnant]

the best players lose max fear rus

[gritty meteor]

fear is just heat v2

[whole remnant]

runs

well big difference

[proud swift]

High fear runs can always be screwed over by luck.

[gritty meteor]

they do both make the game harder

[whole remnant]

max heat only zeus shield and rama could clear

[last cloak]

or any run for that matter

[whole remnant]

all but three aspects have cleared max fear UW

[last cloak]

you mean in h1?

[whole remnant]

yeah

so max fear is more balanced

[gritty meteor]

i miss zeus shield ngl

[last cloak]

got excited thinking zeus shield was in h2

[last cloak]

i loved it, my main by a mile

[whole remnant]

the best high fear aspect is mel staff

[proud swift]

I don't miss zeus at all, you just end up hiding behind it and winning.

[whole remnant]

its cleared the most

[last cloak]

whenever i switched off it i just didn’t have as much fun

[last cloak]

i barely used the block function actually

[proud swift]

Bow was my favorite from H1.

[last cloak]

which is probably why i never beat hades

[whole remnant]

but Surface only has 20 some max fear runs

[gritty meteor]

every shield was fun to use besides chaos tbh

[whole remnant]

so less aspects

have cleared

[last cloak]

the only time i blocked was during the rooms where you just had to wait out a timer, so i stood in the corner holding Y

i will admit those rooms were quite boring

[whole remnant]

Mel Staff, all daggers with Trick Knives, Mel Coat, Nyx Coat, Morrigan, Nergal, Mel Skulls, Madea, Anubis have all cleared max fear Surface

Anubis is an anomoly

since it had just recently cleared UW max first time recently

[proud swift]

Thankfully you could disable those rooms with the pact by running tight deadline.

[last cloak]

as i said i never beat hades in h1

[whole remnant]

i cant remember other aspects clearing max fear surface

[last cloak]

so no, i couldn’t

[proud swift]

😔

[last cloak]

i got to him numerous times, just never beat him

[torn wind]

It’d been done beforehand, apparently, just some of the top players rarely upload to crossroads

Only reason the latest anubis max UW is on there was peer pressure

[misty star]

The lock on bow was great

[wispy storm]

Anyone know why the shop duplicate echo boon says "in most cases"? What cases does it not spawn a copy?

[crude dragon]

Presumably so you can't get BOGO Nightmare or Moon Dust from the final shop

[wispy storm]

Never considered that, if someone's going through all that effort I wonder why the game doesn't just let it happen

[whole remnant]

Well still Surface was a surprise for it. Also. I wonder about Japan. They may have cleared way more on Surface and all Aspects UW

Depends on their interest in Hades 2. When they're into a game they're top competition.

I make friends with them in MKW because my VR is 9200 so hard to find rooms where I lose points if I'm not like top 3 lol

But their rooms are loaded. Often maybe two players even with better VRs than me

[whole remnant]

so weird lol

i dont upload mine

i was part of the max fear community but left because everyone worships raj and frei and they're kinda jerks and its a weird circle whoopsies around them where you cant question them

and Frei was always rude, someone told me to upload my victory shots, switch 2 no capture card

that videos only needed for 67

but frei rejected multiple 62 dream dives of mine

then Vang joined on, and said he would, but i was done with them by then and left their server

[torn wind]

Okay 🤷‍♂️ no reason to talk about people behind their back as if they can't see all of this chat and this is a public server for a game company

[whole remnant]

im not, said all this to them already

in another public discord

[torn wind]

Okay but like I just said they don't always upload cause a 67 clear is just tuesday for them. Wasn't trying to get into personal beef about run validation or anything

[whole remnant]

yeah i was just saying why i dont upload mine

or why i was never able to

but dont really care

but that the "peer pressure" part was weird. like secret max fear runs being hidden.

and its not personal, they're internet strangers basically. just stating facts.

[torn wind]

I said "hey Raijy you gonna upload that Anubis 67 you posted the screenshot of" and they said "I guess I gotta now" and then everybody moved on

[whole remnant]

well thats not pure pressure, but weird not to upload an aspect never done supposedly. and funny a surface one happens where BNB hits Frenzy

peer*

[torn wind]

Peer pressure was a joke

I didn't mean it genuinely

I doubt I genuinely changed their mind in any ways

[whole remnant]

just weird to sit on an aspect saying while saying its never been cleared but whatever

and then a surface clear of same aspect

makes Anubis an anomoly

other 67 surface clears have been weapons long ago cleared UW

[whole remnant]

just weird to sit on it

67 mel staff or like skulls may be tuesday

but Anubis was supposedly never cleared

then we got UW Surface back to back

so thats why I said an anomoly

unlike the others

especially since it was BNB hitting Frenzy which usually times you out

[safe radish]

What is the purpose for continuing to gift npcs after their keepsake?

[whole remnant]

maxing relationships helps progress parts of game

[safe radish]

how do i know which ones to make a priority since there are so many

[crude dragon]

The epilogue requires several NPCs getting high on their relationship meter, plus everyone who has offerings has a prophecy to get all of their offerings at least once that's gated behind giving them a second Nectar

[whole remnant]

Hecate stuff is hidden behind her relatioship too

Hecate and Moros are most important

but they all are

[safe radish]

ok thanks

[icy zealot]

Does Chronos remind anyone else of Yzma from the emperors new groove or is it just me

[fathom lake]

PLease remove that thought from my head

[last cloak]

best way to farm bones?

just doing runs and choosing bones whenever i can and fishing at every spot? or is there better

also, engraved pin or tooth?

[tranquil wren]

pin

[last cloak]

ty

[tranquil wren]

taking the weapon with the thirst on it

[last cloak]

ok

[last cloak]

any reason?

[tranquil wren]

it's 10 seconds of free damage, and if you beat the timer during phase transition, you won't lose a DD

[last cloak]

alr ty

[crude dragon]

Pin refreshes every room, Tooth doesn't

[last cloak]

opinions on ares on medea special?

[crude dragon]

Better on Attack

[last cloak]

true

[last cloak]

what should go on special

[crude dragon]

Ideally, Blitz

[last cloak]

noted

[crude dragon]

Aphrodite is also a good pick if you get the +Power hammer for the Special

As is Hera if it's not on the Attack for Hitch application

[last cloak]

ok good to know

[crude dragon]

But yeah, Blitz is the best Special because you can instantly proc it with an Attack by playing the Aspect

[last cloak]

coolio

i think one of the best parts of the fear alter is that you spawn right next to it after giving up

[last cloak]

does pin work with strength?

i assume not but i thought id ask

[tranquil wren]

nope, it cancels out strength

[last cloak]

rip

[merry whale]

ye it's weird, it counts as a dd that disables strength but doesn't count as dd for last gasp

[last cloak]

i mean im nowhere near the skill level where i can give up 3 death defiances, but still

[merry whale]

honestly the 40% dmg reduction at max level is pretty solid

[jolly hound]

I had never thought of that before but now I’m mad that doesn’t work

[last cloak]

i think im about to die to the timer lmao

[jolly hound]

It’s 5 damage per second not instant death you can make it don’t panic

[last cloak]

like the 5 min / region

[last cloak]

oh i thought it was insta

ok i can do it then

maybe

[jolly hound]

nope if you have 100 hp you have 20 seconds of stoppage time

[last cloak]

actually there’s no way i can do the entirety of the rift of thessely in just under 6 minutes

[jolly hound]

make em count

incorrect I do it all the time

[last cloak]

it’s not as urgent as i made it sound lol

[last cloak]

you fail to account for skill issue

[jolly hound]

you won’t get better if you don’t add more metaphorical weight

[last cloak]

true

[jolly hound]

trust yourself

if you feel comfortable w the zag fight and get it, it’s a time saver compared to a regular boat

May not apply to you yet but down the road

[last cloak]

i mean i accomplished my goal for this specific run, i just wanted to get the nightmare from the cyclops

[jolly hound]

your new goal is waste Typhon

[last cloak]

woah spoiler

[jolly hound]

oh oops my bad

[last cloak]

you mean h1 zag?

[jolly hound]

don’t worry about it

[last cloak]

ok lmao

[jolly hound]

Figured if you were pushing fear you were at endgame already

[last cloak]

nope

[jolly hound]

anyway just keep going and if you die you die but don’t quit on yourself

[last cloak]

im at 10 fear

just made the mistake to max out the timer

[jolly hound]

not a mistake

building for the future

[last cloak]

fair

but i probably could’ve replaced the fear with other lower tier

made it a bit easier on myself

7 mins is comfortable, 5 is pushing it a bit

[jolly hound]

Tbf timer gets way less spicy when you add frenzy

don’t get me wrong frenzy is a very spicy meatball

but 40% faster spawn rate means they die 40% faster and timer is a formality

[last cloak]

i have rank 1 frenzy and im still struggling

20%

[last cloak]

how does that math?

[jolly hound]

just play it out

[last cloak]

i could see 40% faster with 40% less health

[jolly hound]

frenzy spawns bad guys in faster in addition to makin them move and attack faster

so the time in between waves goes down

[last cloak]

i see

[jolly hound]

You aren’t gonna go from 20 min to 12 min just by adding frenzy, but you will save maybe 5-10 seconds per room

[last cloak]

ok imma focus on playing now

[jolly hound]

go get em

[last cloak]

i’ve been pausing or using the boons to type lol

on eris with 3.5 mins

that went faster than it felt

slower*

wait

it didn’t take as long as it felt

died to eris 😭

oh well

at least i can upgrade my last nightmare weapon i use to V

alr aspects of nyx, medea, and thanatos are all rank V

[last cloak]

now im doing a run with a comfortable 9 min timer and no other fear lmai

[jolly hound]

told ya

timer sounds way scarier than it is

now there's def been times where its expired and its like, caution to the wind and joust chronos in a winner take all reckless attack that usually works out better for chronos

but it's pretty rare that happens

[last cloak]

yea

[jolly hound]

try hordes 3 then if you lose whatever turn it off and it’ll feel so easy

like Goku working out at 20x earth gravity

[torn wind]

The thing most people don’t get about hordes is that it’s not just that you get 60% more enemies, it’s that the game has 60% more credits to spawn enemies, so you either get mountains of tiny little annoying enemies for 3 waves or get absolutely dumpstered by a room of giant, fast auto-forcers, Olympus harpies, stalkers, shamblers, and polyps

[jolly hound]

I’m in too deep game is boring without hordes

for that homie in particular see Goku metaphor for my rationale

[heavy nexus]

would y’all consider it cheating to use god mode for 30% damage reduction?

[torn wind]

Who cares 🤷‍♂️

You’re playing the game. If playing god mode is more enjoyable then play with god mode

[jolly hound]

Who cares what we think we’re internet strangers do what makes the game more fun for you

[heavy nexus]

lmao I find it a little bit difficult without god mode

I’ve just beaten the true ending

[jolly hound]

You will get better and stronger the more you play either way but there’s no shame in using the tools the game gives you

It’ll be an asterisk if you go for like a 62 fear speedrun but that’s not the case

[heavy nexus]

haha yea I’ve only played up to 8 fear

[jolly hound]

If you’ve gotten that far without it you may not need god mode

[heavy nexus]

wait wdym

I’ve had god mode since the start lol

[jolly hound]

Oh ok my bad keep doin what you’re doing

[heavy nexus]

but I don’t get hit that often and I don’t use any death defiances

so maybe I should turn it off

[jolly hound]

Turn it off for a run and see how it feels if you want you might just be better at the game than you think you are

[heavy nexus]

yea ik thx I’ll try this later today

[jolly hound]

30% damage reduction isn’t nothing but it’s not a free win either

[torn wind]

I’m still plenty capable of losing with glamour gain

[heavy nexus]

yeah but 30% plus strength is like 60% 🥀

[torn wind]

But like just play what you enjoy

Nobody really cares unless it’s a superiority complex

[jolly hound]

Middle ground could be leave it and add vow of pain 1

[heavy nexus]

ok I’ll try that too

[torn wind]

If I’m correct god mode is applied at the end

[jolly hound]

Math is hard

[heavy nexus]

wait what?

[torn wind]

Meaning if you were to apply pain 1 that would be 120% then a 30% reduction from god mode would mean 84% not 90%

[heavy nexus]

ahh ok

[torn wind]

I think was how the math worked on it

[jolly hound]

Sounds right

[torn wind]

So then pain 3 would be 140% damage not 170%

[heavy nexus]

so it makes pain less effective

[torn wind]

Also god mode scales

As you lose it gets larger until up to an 80% reduction

[nova oar]

Maths is overrated

If you die it's a skill issue, if you live you got lucky

[torn wind]

#h2-victory-boasting message

Just hit this build and you’ll never die

[heavy nexus]

wow

hella tanky

I have nergal so I might try that

I usually use melinoë skulls or Medea skulls tho

I love getting a high rarity heph attack and making a machine gun

I got seismic servo too lmao

[torn wind]

Heph attack and machine gun are kinda antithetical but it’s still fun

[heavy nexus]

lmao it’s true ig

[red fox]

Burst fire mode with hestia heph duo trust

[heavy nexus]

yea I actually got seismic servo and hestias duo once

[jolly hound]

Nergal really wants to be high level before it starts to sing just a heads up

[torn wind]

Yeah Nergal at lvl 1 vs lvl 5 is vastly different

[heavy nexus]

aight i better get me some nightmare then

[torn wind]

21 vs 9 hits to activate berserk

[heavy nexus]

yea that’s a huge difference

[torn wind]

It’s a big difference

[jolly hound]

Heph legendary nergal needs just 4 lol

[red fox]

21 is basically never

[jolly hound]

unless you have hordes 3

and even then prolly not that often

[torn wind]

Eh you would get it but not until the room is starting to end

[heavy nexus]

what does heph legendary do on than axe?

[crude dragon]

I believe it's 20% more attack speed?

[heavy nexus]

jeez

that would be fun since I’ve already got rank v oh than axe

*on

[torn wind]

Heph legendary is anywhere from amazing to very mediocre to borderline useless

[crude dragon]

Yeah, I was operating under the assumption it was already rank 5

Because otherwise it literally is just +1 rank

Rank 6 weapons are where it'll actually shine

[fathom lake]

I love how chaotic Heph Legendary i always take it just to see what it will give me

[limpid stream]

I know I can have my save go from steam to switch but can it go from switch to steam? Id like to play with mods

[jolly hound]

At max level it’s 55% attack speed boost

For nergal it means 4 bonks for frenzy mode

[crude dragon]

55% total or 55% increase?

[void needle]

is there now way to post pictures here?

[broken creek]

not in here no, but you can link images to #h2-builds-and-combat or #h2-victory-boasting but ik the latter is a smidgen harder to justify for the chat

[void needle]

sad!

survived hecate on time 3 with 0 seconds on the clock and 4 hp

[broken creek]

ive linked images for 67 attempts to #h2-builds-and-combat lol so i can complain about dubious erebus boon luck

[broken creek]

sounds about right lol

high fear erebus is scary

[void needle]

got an insane circe build going

epic lvl 6 poseidon cast, his omega cast boon too, and the big family hera boon

[broken creek]

im so glad pos cast is real on circe now

its so funny to just drop a water nuke every couple seconds

[void needle]

yeaa

[halcyon rain]

i'm waiting for patch 3 where ares will work with circe

[broken creek]

then patch4 where hera deals a billion damage even to bosses and now circe has become the best aspect in the game period

[void needle]

got the perfect hermes boon which makes your cast faster but died to scylla yay

[cunning laurel]

then youll get your max fear win 🔥

[broken creek]

i havent touched the game in so long 🥀

i had the drive for like a week but then got walled by cerb and was so sad

[red fox]

You just need a 40f run for confidence boost

[broken creek]

40f 😭 i genuinely cant imagine dropping below 62

[merry whale]

tru!

[gritty meteor]

im sure most people die to scylla on their first encounter cause the song is too good

[merry whale]

surely

i died to scylla for 30 consecutive nights when i first played cuz i was ass

[brazen laurel]

yeah i definitely died over and over to scylla because i was jamming out to the music and not because i was bad at the game

[gritty meteor]

yall actually took more than one try

[cunning adder]

Is medea damage based on special, attack, or both? Like will attack and special boons affect a charged special?

[nova oar]

special affects the special, attack affects the explosion

[cunning adder]

Ok so the explosion damage is separate. Good to know. Means Apollo makes bigger boom and demeter would be good to hold them

[nova oar]

Neither is recommended for medea but yes

[broken creek]

medea is a weapon that can use literally anything and shred everything

[crude dragon]

While this is true, there's still a best option and it's Aphrodite or Ares Attack

[broken creek]

bro forgot who hera was

[crude dragon]

Hera is also good, yes

[static snow]

thanatos aspect + aphro attack so strong

[nova oar]

Eh

There are better options

[torn wind]

I’d definitely say Thanatos is either Apollo or Hera just since with Psychic you can just take nexus rush if you really want hitch and Thanatos benefits a lot from the size of Apollo, but Hera attack is stupid strong. Aphro is obviously also very strong though with the natural crit chance

Ares attack only really is worthwhile if you hit grievous and I’d honestly take Zeus over Ares or Demeter

Zeus attack works very well on Thanatos oattack especially if you get arc flash

[slim pike]

Thanatos is extremely flexible with what can work for most fear levels

If you want an aspect that won't push you towards rerolling the night from getting the wrong hammers/gods then this is that aspect

[woven needle]

So...not only did it turn off, but when I turned back on I reset from the alter

Ggs, potential seed is now gone

[bitter stirrup]

Wrong server

[lean bronze]

pretty sure itll be the same seed
You should try

[woven needle]

God am so lost, were do y'all discuss runs then?

[woven needle]

sure, give me a minute

[bitter stirrup]

Nah I just assumed you meant to send that message to the Boatcord lol

[lean bronze]

out of curiosity what aspect you using

[woven needle]

I promised art that am procrastinating there, so am laying low here till then

[woven needle]

Nergal

[lean bronze]

you sound strong

[woven needle]

Did a fear 50 run full vow of scars with it on surface, want to see if I will have the same luck

[lean bronze]

i lost my 50 nergal surface to baby phase rivals typhon

[woven needle]

Why thank you

[woven needle]

Ah, bayballity, lost a DD and pin to him too

[lean bronze]

You should try to crank it up a bit more
55 maybe

[lean bronze]

omg
Why did i keep typing more as here
Third time today

[woven needle]

Maybye, I do not like full vow of time and frenzy

That leaves judgement which I could give a try

So the seed is gone and I started with deep discent and a hex, lets see where this goes

[lean bronze]

50f with no full time or frenzy? Mah man running semi-60f

[woven needle]

Is it really that impressive, I really hate timing out

I will send my fear 50 set up

[nova oar]

I'm scared of the atrocity you've been playing on for 50f

[woven needle]

I was told high fear starts at 50 so I just powered through it

[lean bronze]

the power that comes with ignorance
It terrifies me

[woven needle]

I can't post here for some reason

[lean bronze]

img banned channel

[lean bronze]

builds n combat

[woven needle]

oh okay am posting it there

Attachments are disabledfrom those channels

[lean bronze]

vic boasting
Geniunely a boast to fifty f without time

[woven needle]

I sent to victorry boast

[woven needle]

7 minutes time

[full citrus]

I’ve been thinking about this lately, should I use the “returning to a real possibility” incantation and reset the lore? I have about 300 hours on hades 2 and I’m done with everything. I mainly play the game for the lore and dialogue so I’ve been thinking about it but resetting all that story progress is scary lol

[red fox]

It is for old player who finished the story before ending change to see the new ending

[full citrus]

Yeah. I got the new ending so no problems there. It’s just for the chance of seeing new dialogues, even if little
But not sure if it’s worth it

[cunning laurel]

realistically what will you lose

if you enjoy the story stuff go for it

[velvet birch]

hello is anyone framiliar with this game and [parsec] multiplayer?

[nova oar]

?

[velvet birch]

@nova oar have there been discussions as to why this game isnt multiplayer

[nova oar]

Yes, and there will never be multiplayer, nor would this game be suitable for it

Outside of possible mods

[lean bronze]

how would it even work
I really want multiplay for this game too
But it aint happening

Then we can have the most goated goats on a team and clear the craziest stuff

[misty star]

hot take axes are bad

in high fear

[broken creek]

not really a hot take

axe is a pretty mana intensive weapon unless its mel axe so yeah theyre all gonna suck

theres a reason 2/3 of the last remaining 67s are axes

[woven needle]

Is there a max nergal fear run?

[bitter stirrup]

Multiple

One player probably has like tens of them

[broken creek]

yeah a good few, both routes too

almost like when you get free healing through scars and are resetting for the best hammer anyway its gonna be kinda smooth

charon, than, and supay are the remaining 67s iirc

[woven needle]

huh, should have thought about that

[woven needle]

Makes sense, I don't think I have beat a run abouve 30 with either of those

[broken creek]

not gonna say its easy cuz its not, using an omega weapon in 67 is crazy hard since theres no persistence or sorceress but having healing makes it a bit softer

[woven needle]

oh am not touching any fear above 50-55

[bitter stirrup]

90% of players with 62+ clears probably said that at one point tbf

[woven needle]

Seek not to place any curses upon thin self

[buoyant matrix]

i was in the 10% 😳

[broken creek]

my goal was 62 but i got stupid close to clearing a 67

[buoyant matrix]

"do not avert your gaze"