h2-discussion

[rare wedge]

okay thank you

[reef sail]

Antler just limits your current to be no more than 30, your original number stays and updates

And as soon as you beat that region and antler deactivates you’ll be back

[rare wedge]

i love bringing antler for the first region, so thats great

[reef sail]

Certainly a way to use it

[bitter stirrup]

Not worth it you nerf yourself by starting out with weaker boons and not being able to use Antler when you actually need it

[native nebula]

J-pom goated

[nova oar]

First region is a throw pick, you should be taking it last

[rare wedge]

but it makes first region so fast, it cant be that bad

that with aspect of thanatos plus raki, you just one tap most of those enemies

[bitter stirrup]

Consider the opportunity cost of losing Lv4 boons AND losing the ability to make final region faster and easier

[rare wedge]

i hadnt thought of it that way. just feels risky to cut your hp like that for the final boss

[bitter stirrup]

Even if you don't plan to use it later, you're still losing power and time over the whole run by not taking JPom R1

[nova oar]

That's where the skill comes in, but in general jpom or a god keepsake is always objectively the strongest way to start

[broken creek]

nah its for zag% trust

[wheat stream]

Aspect of medea feels like hades 1 dash builds and its the best and worst thing about the aspect

Its really fun for like 3 runs and becomes boring

[native nebula]

I haven't used it yet so idk

[worldly mantle]

if youre running ||champion of elysium|| its optimal

[marsh spear]

Well I've written a whole entire essay explaining a new route for the game as an expansion.
What began as a small "i wonder if" became a spiral.

ADHD babyyyyyy

[crude dragon]

Is it the H1 route?

[marsh spear]

Nope i made up a new region

I'll publish it on Reddit later, i need to check for typos

[marsh spear]

For lack of a better forum given the long text form

[brisk harness]

I still take damage on final boss especially rivals

antler is suicide in my case xd

idk even 40f is a stretch, I never actually got to clear 48f even with a good supay run

[marsh spear]

Same

[marsh spear]

Published, hope you like it

[short raft]

Artemis blades recharge time affect by Pos and Hephes duo?

[prisma monolith]

Thats not a boon

[acoustic gazelle]

Am I missing something about the Drowned Ambitions prophecy?
I beat Scylla with 10 fear but still only got a normal pearl which didn't prompt a unique dialogue option with Circe

[slim pike]

Did circe tell you to do that?

[acoustic gazelle]

Yeah she said something about needing a pearl from Scylla but not just any pearl. I then got a prophecy that says to collect a pearl with 10 fear then speak to Circe

[slim pike]

Did you do a normal run or dream dive?

[acoustic gazelle]

A normal run. I didn't think you still got pearls in dream dives. You get the stickers instead

[slim pike]

that's true, just checking other possibilities as to why it didn't trigger

was it 10 or 12 fear? hrm

hrm, no , it's 10

the only other requirement is having talked to Circe about the quest so uhhhh

[tranquil wren]

did melinoe start and stop an incantation while picking the pearl up or no?

[acoustic gazelle]

No just picked it up the same way as usual.

[tranquil wren]

try again with 10F

because melinoe is supposed to do that when picking up the pearl. the only thing I can think of is that you thought you were on 10F or above but you weren't, or it's genuinely bugged

[lean bronze]

just crank it up to 67 be sure
Just in case, you know

[eager gust]

i just choked 40f at typhon im gonna cry

[tranquil wren]

same thing happened to me at 40F typhon for some weird reason

made it out with like 2hp though

you'll get it next time though

[eager gust]

also whats the requirements to get apollos legendary? its the only one i dont have

[real scarab]

Which keepsake? Pin's great if you can save it till the last phase or babality

[tranquil wren]

when you open the book of shadows, go to apollo and then look at his boon list

you can scroll down to his legendary and see what you need. you can even forget-me-not it so that you can see what you need during the run

[glad cedar]

I like how the game wants you to progress. Ive had some duos/legendaries never appeared in 100+ runs, mainly because i didnt play a lot of Haephastus and Apollo, and game literally gave them away as soon as I met the criteria 😁

[eager gust]

what aspects go best with his legendary, might as well try and go for a giga build

[halcyon rain]

exceptional talent can work quite weirdly with some aspects

it works great with anubis ospecial

[eager gust]

i had fang on because i dont have pin leveled ip

[lean bronze]

ive choked 8 55fs now
To rivals typhon or chronos

[eager gust]

rivals typhon isnt that hard of a fight but i always choke it

[lean bronze]

after going for a few rounds against chronos
Ye typhon is a lot chiller

[eager gust]

what gets upgraded with engraved pin

[bitter stirrup]

HP you get after beating the countdown

[eager gust]

i keep getting to typhon at 40f and dying 😭

its coming soon

i had level 13 heroic poseidon attack 😭

with exhaust riser

[fathom lake]

damn

[eager gust]

and the hera boon that buffs your damage effects

also had blitz and chain lightning

i choked it on promacles and just used all my dds

[fathom lake]

Should have hoped for Athena

[eager gust]

i shouldve used her keepsake for summit

[fathom lake]

Yeah

Renewed Faith would have carried

Or use both Strength and Death if you are running Fates Whim

Can save your Run
You could have use AroPhial

[bitter stirrup]

"save your run" by giving you 40% damage reduction when you're already down to 40% max HP

It's not worth the grasp

[fathom lake]

Yeah laugh if you want but it extends your last DD

Its not a terrible idea
ITs decent

[cursive nacelle]

when on fates whim theres no other 4 options if you wanna preserve the queen(no more than 2 of same cost)

[bitter stirrup]

The Queen is not that important

[fathom lake]

Boooo boring

[halcyon rain]

it... is...

[bitter stirrup]

Queen can even be detrimental by offering you useless duos

I know for sure I've been offered Brave Face at least 3 times when I wanted Hereditary Bane/Trusty Shield

[cursive nacelle]

brave face is nuts tho.

since you likely have born gain or tough gain. Born gain being near infinite mana as long as you have a decent max. and tough gain gives you mana when you take dmg counteracting the downside of brave face completely.

but im a lowly 32f peasant so whatever i guess

[bitter stirrup]

Brave Face is not nuts when you have no magick thanks to Hubris or even just good boons like Static Shock, Trusty Shield, and Snow Queen

[jolly hound]

I got forced into brave face once from vow of denial and blew what would have been a sure thing 45 Typhon fight im scarred

[eager gust]

would taking the circe buff that removes a vow truly count as a fear run

because i always avoid it because did i really do 40f if i remove a vow

[bitter stirrup]

Do whatever you want

Personally I take it if it's better than the others

[jolly hound]

yea, it counts

if it removes frenzy you’re gonna have timer problems

[eager gust]

yeah that would be a reset

and does it remove only one level or the entire thing

[halcyon rain]

the entire vow

honestly even if it removes frenzy you can probably still clear without dying to timer on 40f

[eager gust]

imagine it hits rivals

[jolly hound]

It cannot hit rivals

[torn wind]

Frenzy really isn’t THAT big of a deal unless your timer is already pretty cooked

[jolly hound]

Maybe not at 40 but higher than that you’re gonna have a bad time

also I can’t function on no frenzy any more

[torn wind]

I mean my surface high fear runs have generally been faster than my UW runs already tbh

If you can get past Olympus then summit is super fast

[eager gust]

that sucks :(

[shy storm]

How dose one get the credits

[torn wind]

Yeah it’s not possible for it to hit rivals and it hitting void does nothing

[shy storm]

||I've beaten underworld 6 times and surface 4||

[torn wind]

Denial also doesn’t undo already finished denials it just makes future choices not deny anything

[eager gust]

just do them both a few more times

[torn wind]

Well so you do the thing

[shy storm]

What thing

[torn wind]

Have you done the incantations

[shy storm]

No

Still missing ||gigaros and entropy||

[torn wind]

Okay well then you better do that

Gotta keep doing UW

[eager gust]

is it ever worth fighting ||zagreus|| after getting the keepsake

[torn wind]

Potential time save on surface but definitely not worth it on UW since you’re far weaker

You get him on region 2 and 3 on surface and later in region 2. Meanwhile UW it’s mid region 1 or early region 2

And UW rooms are generally faster already

Except for fish rooms in Oceanus I’ve had some on high fear that took an entire minute

[eager gust]

i love fish rooms because its so satisfying

[torn wind]

#h2-victory-boasting message

I don’t cause timer

[eager gust]

ignoring timer, having flash fry in a fish room is so nice

[torn wind]

Valid

[eager gust]

i like when fish show up in r1 with menace

also is fig leaf more likely to pop early in a region, it always happens in thr first couple rooms

[bitter stirrup]

I don't know the exact numbers but even if you assume it's a 50% chance to proc then you would still notice it proccing early more often than not

Ah it's 37% apparently

[torn wind]

Room 1 or late fig is always optimal

[thorn gate]

Am I the only one who cant grasp what to do with ||aspect of supay||,like i get it, rush. but what do i put on it? i cant imagine any build that hasnt fumbled its the only aspect that i dont get

[torn wind]

Generally you want a strong rush boon and some sort of flat damage or Hera on your attack and special

Blitz or Hera special is very strong. Then something like breaker, thunder, heat or nexus rush

[thorn gate]

i was thinking heph spec and pos attack for the duo, even got heroic heph spec on first room

[torn wind]

Flip those

[thorn gate]

oooh

[torn wind]

Special hits far more often so having Heph on it isn’t preferable

Unless you’re using omega attack it doesn’t hit much

[thorn gate]

also hel, i was thinking ares attack and aphro spec

with gris gain

[torn wind]

Poseidon attack Hera special

[thorn gate]

OOOH

[torn wind]

Grisly is gain is fine

[thorn gate]

YEAH CUZ HITCH

[torn wind]

But Hel you want a good flat damage attack

[thorn gate]

I LIKE THAT

[torn wind]

Ares is ass on Hel attack overall

[thorn gate]

hold on ima stream

or not

[torn wind]

There’s no VC’s on this server

[thorn gate]

dang

[bitter stirrup]

Hel and Supay both similarly want the typical boon soup of Zeus Hera Hestia Poseidon (and maybe Hephaestus)

[torn wind]

But like generally on any weapon the philosophy is gonna be that higher attack rate and lower damage means something like Poseidon or Hestia is best

[bitter stirrup]

Since their base damage is so low you just want the most useful on-hit effects

[thorn gate]

i have the urge to just slap apollo on like every build :/

[torn wind]

Apollo has multiple abilities that he’s ass on since he doesn’t have a natural curse and is a % buff

Like torch special Apollo is mediocre at best

[thorn gate]

apollo charon my beloved

with the omega cast boon

[bitter stirrup]

Apollo's best fits are The Morrigan, Charon, Nergal, Eos, Mel/Persephone Skull, and Shiva

[torn wind]

Still good on Medea attack cause size

[thorn gate]

i also think hestia is too situational to put on attack and specials unless its anubis or eos

[torn wind]

But not preferable usually

[bitter stirrup]

Oh yeah I forget Medea exists sometimes because I never play the stupid thing

[torn wind]

Hestia is goated on several aspects

[thorn gate]

scorch just doesnt do what i want it too

unless you get the aphro duo

which means you need an aphro core

[torn wind]

It’s an easy origination and very solid flat damage if you get pyro technique

[bitter stirrup]

Aphro duo is only useful if you don't apply a lot of Scorch

[thorn gate]

also

[jolly hound]

I get overconfident with ephyra side rooms

[thorn gate]

zeus legendary is a worse dem legendary

[torn wind]

No it isn’t

[bitter stirrup]

Hestia fits well on Circe, Anubis, all Blades, all Flames, Hel, and the non-hidden Coats

[torn wind]

Being able to instantly delete 1/4 enemies is so much stronger than killing stuff at 10% health

[thorn gate]

every enemy EVEN BOSSES

EVEN TYPHON

[torn wind]

Okay but that’s like 7k health at most

An entire legendary for that is pretty whatever. Saves like 4 seconds if even

[thorn gate]

LISTEN TO YOURSELF

ok but hades 1 poseidon legendary is a joke tho

[torn wind]

I’m listening to myself and saying from experience that it’s a pretty whatever boon

[thorn gate]

yay fish!

[torn wind]

The enemy also HAS to be frozen. So if they aren’t frozen when they hit 10% health it doesn’t do anything until freeze cooldown ends

[thorn gate]

well consider in most cases FOR EXAMPLE if you're using dem attack on something like torches with gris gain?

when are they not frozen

[torn wind]

Im just saying even for speedrunning idgaf about dem legendary unless I just happen to come across it

It’s not something I ever go for intentionally

[thorn gate]

ok sidetracking a bit can you help me think of any other medea build that doesnt involve pos and/ or aphro?

[torn wind]

It’s not horrible if you do get it but it’s just not impactful enough especially for how much magick it purges on vow of hubris

[bitter stirrup]

Also because usually if you have Demeter attack or special it kinda means you're probably settling

[torn wind]

Poseidon is ass on Medea other than ocean swell if you get possessed array

[thorn gate]

DUDE

WIDE GRIN POS ATTACK

[bitter stirrup]

Wide Grin Medea is bad

[torn wind]

Wide grin medea is reset worthy

[thorn gate]

fair

[bitter stirrup]

And I don't think Wide Grin even gives you four splashes? Not sure about this I just remember there being some sort of limit to Waves, on Hidden Helix Flames for example you apparently only get 2 Poseidon Waves

[torn wind]

Legitimate garbage

[thorn gate]

i saw a kid put hes spec on medea

why

[torn wind]

Hestia special for origination

It’s a curse

Better than putting something that doesn’t apply a curse on it

[thorn gate]

oh

[torn wind]

The reason why Hera attack Zeus special is preferable on Medea is because of blitz damage and easy origination application

[thorn gate]

idk im a hestia hater i havent found the enlightenment yet

[torn wind]

Hestia isn’t preferable on Medea special but it’s far better than something like Apollo

Ares is a solid special just because of the ability to get grievous blow

And it’s still a curse

[thorn gate]

ok, is apollo spec the best for aspect of shiva? i feel like it is

[torn wind]

Apollo or Hera is usually the play if you’re using omega special

Hera cause easy hitch application and Apollo cause it’s freaking massive

[bitter stirrup]

Apollo is also one of the best attacks on Shiva from what I've seen

[thorn gate]

whats the best attack then? if you're prioritizing the power shot

[torn wind]

Apollo or Aphrodite

[thorn gate]

:)

and then power to the omega attack right?

[bitter stirrup]

Ah well if you're actually using the aspect bonus it's probably Ares

[torn wind]

Even if you’re not using omega attack Apollo is still very good

[jolly hound]

Aphro special on Medea does better than you think it will

[bitter stirrup]

Only beats Zeus for damage with Colossus Driver I think

[torn wind]

It’s not terrible but it’s not a curse and not blitz

I’d prefer ares for grievous route

Or obviously Zeus cause Zeus being Zeus

[jolly hound]

sometimes fates whim says you’re doing aphro special ares attack Medea and you’re gonna like it

is it optimal, no, but I beat 45 with it sans p array so yeehaw

[bitter stirrup]

I think that was my attack/special for my second 40 fear ever too lol

[torn wind]

At least because of Medea’s natural 90% attack/special buff the wounds hits hard when it does activate

[jolly hound]

Grisly can keep up with p array provided you’re using jpom (though visceral impact def doesn’t hurt), legendary ares goes hard on Medea

I wish I liked Medea more, like I get how to use it but it doesn’t feel quite right to me

[candid nimbus]

I was able to keep up with P Array between Visceral Impact and Success Rate

I like Flood Gain on P Array a lot, but nothing compares with Born Gain and a biblical level of greed with your magick

[jolly hound]

me taking a p array in late Olympus with crap mana and taking silver wheel going into rivals Typhon lol

[cursive nacelle]

Once you are in the 150+ mana with born gain you should be fine for everything but rivals typhon/chronos

[bitter stirrup]

150 magick with Common Lv4 Born Gain gets you about 30 uses of PArray, 200 magick gets you about 52, 250 magick gets you about 81

[jolly hound]

It needs to be fine for rivals Typhon and chronos or it’s not enough

[thorn gate]

dumb question but demeter's moving cast duo would be good on supay no?

[buoyant matrix]

ocasts generally aren't strong

[torn wind]

It requires you to channel which breaks sprint but otherwise it's not horrible

[crude dragon]

It'd be alright

[torn wind]

Just ares and demeter are both very mid on supay to begin with

Aside from if you're good at using blade rush I guess

[cunning laurel]

grisly is good

[halcyon rain]

plasma is good for soup

[torn wind]

Yeah just mean like overall for damage and such he's not great

[eager gust]

tell me why i only realised after 100 hours that the shed looking enemies are spawners

[cunning laurel]

i didnt even realize what they were until you said that

[merry whale]

seems helpful depending on ur build ye

like dem freeze + super nova would be funny

[torn wind]

They're called tombstones and they look like a mausoleum

[reef sail]

They love to spawn enemies right as you kill them, I hate it

[stone hollow]

what build is best for aspect of artemis?

[reef sail]

Check pins

[stone hollow]

the link in #h2-builds-and-combat?

[reef sail]

Yeah that’s where it is, I forgor

[plain remnant]

Any news on what's next for SGG?

[jolly hound]

trick knives

[limpid stream]

Does Renewed Faith also make unused DDs more potent

[buoyant matrix]

pvpve competitive battle royal first person extraction shooter with seasonal battle passes

[buoyant matrix]

no

[lean bronze]

at 67 fear restrictions

[jolly wing]

On night 67.

Been playing since middle of April. Unlocked nearly everything, relationships nearly maxed out.

It’s time for a break.

[merry whale]

i thought it did

[plain remnant]

But is it a rogue like smh

[worldly mantle]

Don't forget the $30 crossover skins

[reef sail]

He he he

Waited until fields for Poseidon to show up, all cores filled except attack

And he offers me a gain replacement

[hearty aspen]

Hey all, I'm playing the surface route and got the upgrade that increases the level of 2 random arcana. It landed on Artificer, (transform minor rewards into major rewards) but there was no difference at all in the lvl3 and lvl4 versions, both giving 3 rerolls. Just wanted to make sure this wasn't intentional, cuz a lot of the other upgrades feel way strong and this one is,, nothing lol

[reef sail]

Did it refill your uses?

[nova oar]

Had you already used a reroll?

[cunning laurel]

yea it will refund 1

[hearty aspen]

Ah, I didn't really see if it refunded or not since I didn't get any minor finds afterwards oops

[reef sail]

Olympus moment

[hearty aspen]

I used em all in first stage I think

[reef sail]

That Circe offering has never worked well for me

[nova oar]

Same, it only ever hits the useless ones like frenzy and time for me

[obsidian relic]

the hammer that gives +1 speial with torches doesnt come up with EOS, feels like a scam

my 6 orbitings specials 😔

how do i unlock pets

[reef sail]

Confide in frinos 6 times to complete the prophecy, is the first step

Telling on yourself for being a non Frinos confider

[prisma monolith]

Imagine not confiding in your frog

How do you make it thru the game

[glacial light]

[nova oar]

Who'd you steal nitro from

[glacial light]

@drowsy hound

[nova oar]

Ah

[glacial light]

yeah

[north quail]

Does anyone happen to know if Scorn ||(the curse from the Hades boon that gives your dash the punishing sweep)|| affects moves? Couldn’t find an answer online, and I’m kinda wondering how well it works with the Thanatos axe

[real scarab]

It doesn't affect omega moves no

It only buffs your regular attack & special

[nova oar]

No

[cerulean palm]

07 67 66 39 32

[drowsy hound]

Your welcome

[glacial light]

The numbers mason

[drowsy hound]

insert bo1 flashback

[cerulean palm]

Hdys ?

[lean bronze]

reminder that selene coat hex only strikes one target at a time unlike light smite

and does little damage starting out
You might think its for wards
But youd be wrong
You have to use coat omegas to activate hex
“Then just use ospec”
It takes four ospecs to get hex
By then wards are already done
Plus it also locks you out of a hex like twilight curse

@nova oar may i apply for membership

[cunning laurel]

it's usable

[lean bronze]

ye
But still

[nova oar]

You can become #3 yes

[lean bronze]

[prisma monolith]

Binding of 1saac

[limpid oar]

the only thing saving Selene coat is having the coat moveset

you can play it aspectless and do fine

[gritty meteor]

do yall consider hades 2 better than 1

[nova oar]

Yes

[lean bronze]

is the switch 2 better than switch 1 question

[lean bronze]

i apparently dont like myself because im gonna try use a sky fall build for my 40f selene coat as part of my 24/24 40f

[nova oar]

40f is easy enough to do anything on

[lean bronze]

precisely

[lean bronze]

whats the most death defiances you can have
six right?

dd card
cat
tooth
athena

[nova oar]

7 or 8 iirc

pin

[lean bronze]

wait does the effect stay after switching keepsake?

[nova oar]

No

[limpid oar]

you can gift gift gift

[nova oar]

^

[glacial light]

Dd card cat tooth athena circe upgrade to cat or card

[real scarab]

It's gonna get fixed in the next patch trust

[lean bronze]

that makes keepsake last more than one region right?
there are 2 dd keepsakes
so if you hit olympus, and fields then you can in theory have 8 dds at once

[lean bronze]

cat upgrade only increases hp heal
but card upgrade is a good reminder
so 9 total

[glacial light]

If you get athena in olympus yeah

[glacial light]

Unless they changed it no it increases dd

From circe specificaly

[lean bronze]

if you are right its 10 and if you arent its 9

[glacial light]

Would still be 9 cuz only 1 circe upgrade

[lean bronze]

ah right

anyone gonna put the 9 dd run together?

[limpid oar]

I think the Metal 60f is more plausible

[lean bronze]

thats why it aint gonna be me

[lean bronze]

also how close are you to that 60f win

[glacial light]

Uhhh a single run made it to promecles and everything else dies in ephyra or thessaly

In 350 runs

[lean bronze]

brother

i was gonna say something like "hey lets believe in metal"

[glacial light]

Hey i never claimed to be good

But for your knowlage people belive in me somehow XD

[tranquil wren]

350??? holy moly

[glacial light]

Yeah

[lean bronze]

what are you running

arcana vows weap build familiar

[tranquil wren]

what are you doing brother

[glacial light]

Usualy everything but scars 3 and void

[lean bronze]

hes in his anime character training arc

[glacial light]

What ever weapon i feel with gale and meta arcana

[lean bronze]

id take pain 1 instead

[tranquil wren]

surely anime training arcs would be going through 1 fear at a time

[lean bronze]

wait no thats only 58f

[glacial light]

The funny thing is i like running 60f

[lean bronze]

i recommend you use raki circe and this arcana https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/ArcanaDeck/?deck=WyJjMSIsImMyIiwiYzMiLCJjNiIsImM3IiwiYzgiLCJjMTEiLCJjMTIiLCJjMTMiLCJjMTQiLCJjMTUiLCJjMTciLCJjMTgiLCJjMjQiXQ==
ye no scars 3 is a good pick ill leave it at that
if you cant get pain 1 dont remove pain

[glacial light]

On night 500 something

[glacial light]

Mhm that do be my arcana

[lean bronze]

im able to get to r4 final boss at 55f without breaking a sweat but i always mess it up at the end

[lean bronze]

[glacial light]

Like im already on meta of meta XD

[lean bronze]

my best tip for you right now is: use raki circe and make full use of psychic leash

[glacial light]

Ill say it i hate the bird

[lean bronze]

yes aetos snipes are annoying when you are dealing with promecles

[bitter stirrup]

Gale truthers rise up

NO NICHES SHALL BE HAD ONLY THE POLECAT IS RELEVANT BE A META SLAVE

[glacial light]

YEAHHH

[bitter stirrup]

*except for Frinos Nergal

[lean bronze]

no raki for circe?
my mind is blown

[bitter stirrup]

Yeah Raki is probably actually better for Circe overall tbh

[glacial light]

Im bout to blow your mind

[bitter stirrup]

But I can't give up my Gale blocks

[glacial light]

I hate circe more than i hated medea

[prime iron]

how would old grudge and knucklebones work on typhon?

[lean bronze]

ima just keep doing mah raki then

[glacial light]

You can only max 20% a final boss

He had a health bar its just invisable

[bitter stirrup]

Yeah you can't bypass his first health gate

[prime iron]

sadge

[glacial light]

Bro ignored this XD

[lean bronze]

a circe aspect denier

[glacial light]

Medea and cidce whdre my f teirs

Below shiva

[lean bronze]

its ok you can stop ragebaiting now

[glacial light]

Its not ragebait

Genuienly

Medea has movsd up to c teir

[lean bronze]

ive reached the acceptance stage
yes i agree metal and circe dont go together because circe is nature and metal is civilisation

[lean bronze]

wha happen

[glacial light]

Higher fps/bigger and more hrz monitor

[lean bronze]

[glacial light]

[lean bronze]

maybe you can record a run so we can give tips

[glacial light]

Haha @split shuttle triex that i still failed XD

In fact i did worse

[lean bronze]

[glacial light]

For there is a method to the madness i play with

[split shuttle]

huh what did i get pinged for

[glacial light]

That you tried helping me

[wet heath]

what fear goal shout i set for myself after i did 32f?

[buoyant matrix]

40

[wet heath]

oki :3

[vague zephyr]

Any hades 2 fans in the chat today

[hushed cloak]

load into oeanus with hidden torches equipped
"At least my feet are clean"

and hello fellow h2 fan

[vague zephyr]

No way

This is awesome it’s like a whole place for hades content

[nova oar]

'Woah, the game server has the game in it' :P

[nova oar]

Most of us are yes

[vague zephyr]

Exactly

This is amazing news

[nova oar]

Have you just started playing? Or

[vague zephyr]

I played when it was in early access and then fell off

Been meaning to get back into it

[lyric igloo]

Ok, so I've returned to hades 2 for the first time since its complete release after spending some 100 hours in the early access, and I'm currently trying to deal with rivals cerberus. And... how exactly do you deal with it? I mean, I don't want to switch to dds if I remember correctly that's how I dealt with it earlier, but I would like to keep strength

[quasi acorn]

Is there a place for the French please ?

[nova oar]

No

[quasi acorn]

Ah 😂😂😂

[nova oar]

I have a video of me doing it damageless if that might help, but in general you want to stay behind him, and pay close attention to his parry move so you don't accidentally trigger the fireballs, other than that it's just learning the fight and not standing in the exploding circles

[lyric igloo]

I think that video would help a lot, where can I find that?

Also thanks for the tips

[vague zephyr]

Similarly related, I found that the siren fight was cookin me a lil bit because of my colorblindness. Is there a setting for that? Just asking cause I also haven’t booted the game up in a while

The indicator circles were hard for me to see

[bitter stirrup]

Most important skill to learn is dashing through the paw slam pulses

[lyric igloo]

Good to know

[nova oar]

https://imgur.com/a/vMd79UT

[lyric igloo]

Thanks!

[nova oar]

From memory there is

[bitter stirrup]

Lightning Lance spotted respect doubled

[vague zephyr]

Sweet thank you

[nova oar]

Lightning lance circe gale makes leash usable lmao

[reef sail]

Oh is that why he takes longer to fireball sometimes and I see Block pop up, huh

Imagine if I paid attention

[hazy parrot]

not the place. maybe check the celeste discord

[vague zephyr]

Thank you tai lung

Verily I shall begin this journey

[wet heath]

how do i get higher tiers of the rivals vow?

[reef sail]

You should have a prophecy that explains it

You have to beat both VoR1 bosses and then the incantation to unlock VoR2 shows up

And so on

[buoyant matrix]

beat both bosses of each level to unlock the next

level 2 also needs you to have met a miniboss in thessaly

[gritty meteor]

why would you ever unequip the huntress card

just sounds like 30% extra damage all the time

[eager gust]

if you’re building around flat damage or omega attacks that 30% on your attack and special is less important

[buoyant matrix]

it's only to your base attack and special

also if you're using the reroll corner setup, you usually have to drop it for more important stuff

[eager gust]

i have it unequiped a lot because i forget to get it going sometimes

unless i am purely going around base attack and special

[gritty meteor]

i have absolutely no idea what any of that means 🔥

on like my 4th run now

[buoyant matrix]

just throw out a random omega move at the start of each location to get more free damage 🤠

also you should probably move to #h2-for-new-players to avoid spoilers

[gritty meteor]

nah i dont mind

[buoyant matrix]

the two damage cards you should actually always have on are furies and origination

you probably don't have origination yet so just keep it in mind

[gritty meteor]

i am extremely mad]

missed a daedalus hammer cause i didnt see the door

[eager gust]

how hard would 40f be without dd

i got such a good seed but forgot to fix my arcana

[gritty meteor]

which weapon do yall like the most

i really hated using the staff

the torches are pretty cool

[halcyon rain]

not really hard

playing with no dds only becomes an issue on 50+ imo

[crude dragon]

Should be fine to run Strength if you haven't turned off Scars yet

[worldly mantle]

Blades, but I have like 350 more runs on black coat than anything else

[gritty meteor]

is that one of the aspects

i havent unlocked them yet

the base aspect looks boring atleast

[blissful fog]

i thought the exact opposite 😭

which u can probably see

cuz my name

[gritty meteor]

im talking about the base aspect

i cant try other aspects yet and melione is really boring

[blissful fog]

base staff isn't that bad

[blissful fog]

oh yeah, you'll love the other aspects

[gritty meteor]

im guessing zeus boons are some of the best for sister blades base aspect

[shut needle]

It's kinda funny but also creepy, I got this coworker who laughs just like Aracne

[gritty meteor]

the m2 is really good

[blissful fog]

zeus boons are good for any weapon tbh

[gritty meteor]

i wonder if theres a version of zeus shield builds in this game

[blissful fog]

i haven't played hades 1 so idk

[gritty meteor]

its a spinning shield

[shut needle]

Do you want a little spoiler?

[blissful fog]

hm

[gritty meteor]

normally go for zeus boons cause every spin triggers a lightning strike

extremely fun to use

[blissful fog]

is it like a heavy close up weapon?

[gritty meteor]

its more like a single target damage weapon

[blissful fog]

hmmm

[gritty meteor]

range is small

[blissful fog]

hmmm

maybe u could try a run with the skull

[gritty meteor]

if i had it

when do i even unlock aspects

[blissful fog]

uhh

[gritty meteor]

after beating infernal beast probably

[blissful fog]

the skull isn't an aspect

its js another base weapon

[gritty meteor]

is skull the torches

[blissful fog]

no

alright

[gritty meteor]

isnt there only 4 weapons

[blissful fog]

there are 6

[gritty meteor]

oh really i thought it was only 4

[blissful fog]

staff, daggers, torches, axe, skull and coat

[gritty meteor]

coat sounds cool

[blissful fog]

yeah

i think its comparable to the gauntlet thingys in hades 1

[crude dragon]

As in a weapon that causes a bunch of hits over time? Technically, there's the lawn mower with the hidden knives, but it's also a really bad way to play the hidden knives

[crude dragon]

Hecate will tell you about it after you've fought her with each of the first 4 weapons

[gritty meteor]

if only i got silver for the axe

[crude dragon]

Have you unlocked the ability to set forget-me-nots for marking resource nodes?

[gritty meteor]

probably not

as i have no idea what a forget me not is

[eager gust]

what aspect should i give 32f a go

[blissful fog]

want a challenge or do u prefer smth easy?

[eager gust]

smth somewhat easy, ive done circe and mel coat so far

[blissful fog]

hm

artemis daggers

[eager gust]

what would be a challenging aspect?

[blissful fog]

supay torches

[unkempt zodiac]

Circe is kinda like Zeus shield in a way lol

They both drop big damage auras

[blissful fog]

yay just beat ||zag|| for the 2nd time

thank you unseen ire

[eager gust]

i play mel coat too much

every other aspect feels so slow

[blissful fog]

tbh, i like shiva coat more than mel coat

[jolly hound]

Check the record keeper, whichever one you’ve used the least

[limpid stream]

I killed VOR Redacted lets goooooo

[eager gust]

vor redacted?

[limpid stream]

Final boss on the upper route

[blissful fog]

you can always js spoiler the message ||like this||

[eager gust]

|| on each side

[limpid stream]

I figured Redacted was commonly enough used that it was sufficient

[mint bobcat]

so question for yall im thinking on adding denial to my normal fear set up is that a good idea? my normal fear set up is 18 fear composed of Hoards 3, Grit 3, Menace 2, Wards 2, Fangs 2, Shadow 1

[cunning laurel]

should be fine, denial is annoying at worst but usually fine

[mint bobcat]

my fear set is is built to be annoying tbh but thats how i play

[cunning laurel]

hordes 3 grit 3 is a pretty crazy setup that early

[mint bobcat]

I started off just using wards and hoards tbh

[jolly hound]

Hell yes hordes gang

If your goal is push fear high, you want frenzy and rivals next

[mint bobcat]

gonna run rivals over frenzy first

[gritty meteor]

i miss when everyone had picture perms

[mint bobcat]

get used to it then worry about the speed

[gritty meteor]

dashing heave or seeting marauder

[mint bobcat]

seething murader

[nova oar]

Dashing on mel axe, seething otherwise

[jolly hound]

I would recommend frenzy first, you’re gonna just lose like 10 times per tick you add, it would be less effort to get used to frenzy first then learn the rivals fights under frenzy conditions rather than have to relearn them. Hecate in particular has hands when you add frenzy and rivals

also chronos but worry about that later

[nova oar]

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/FearCalculator/?vows=WzAsMCwwLDYsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDYsMCwwLDAsOF0=

[mint bobcat]

I primarily go surface

[nova oar]

This is a much easier setup for starting to increase fear

[nova oar]

Same applies to surface, you should just learn the rivals fights with frenzy 2 on

[mint bobcat]

so i usually dont run time due to hating time limits but I started keeping the in game timer on when I do runs

[jolly hound]

Frenzy makes timer irrelevant until much later when you’re running grit, wards and return

Stuff spawns faster and therefore dies faster

[mint bobcat]

I think tho ill start adding timer to my normal set up then add frenzy after I get used to it

[jolly hound]

I get it can feel stressful but check your win times and if they’re under 28 minutes then time 2 is free and under 20 min, time 3 is free

[mint bobcat]

I keep thinking the more fear I put the harder it is even if its psychological thought

[jolly hound]

You may need to skip a trial of the gods for an Arachne room or something and maybe a chaos gate or two but like, it isn’t that bad I promise

It’s 5 damage per second in stoppage time, not instant death

so if you have 100 health you have 20 more seconds

[mint bobcat]

thats not too bad then

[jolly hound]

nope

[mint bobcat]

a lot of the games i play when theirs a time limit it insta kill after

what made me hate time limits

[nova oar]

Alot of the vows, especially up to 40f, are just free and add minimal difficulty that can be negated with the optimal arcana and keepsakes

[mint bobcat]

when i get on again ill send a pic of my arcana set up

[nova oar]

Start with both, frenzy makes runs faster

[nova oar]

You can use crossroads
https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/ArcanaDeck

[mint bobcat]

never used it so uh gimme a bit

im pretty sure it was this https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/ArcanaDeck

again i have to get on to double check but im like 90% sure its that set up

[reef sail]

You have to hit generate url and then copy url

[mint bobcat]

dang ill do it again

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/ArcanaDeck/?deck=WyJjMSIsImMyIiwiYzQiLCJjNSIsImM3IiwiYzgiLCJjOSIsImMxMSIsImMxMiIsImMxMyIsImMxNCIsImMxNiIsImMyMCIsImMyMiIsImMyNCJd

their

[reef sail]

Oh no

Unseen is way more expensive than the value it gives

So it’s not recommended

[mint bobcat]

I like having it for when I don't have a magic gain

theirs been builds where I forgo the magic gain altogether

[reef sail]

If you switched it to boatman you could afford an extra boon or two in the first region and have more rerolls to make sure you do get a compatible gain early on

[mint bobcat]

most of the builds I do use aspect of charon so having that little bit of magic gain is helpful to me

[cunning laurel]

sure but thats because you dont want to omega, so why take unseen

[blissful fog]

hmmm

i should try another torch run

i personally don't like torches

but i wanna give em another chance

[mint bobcat]

on those runs i turn it off but for my normal runs which are aspect of charon I keep it on if that makes sense

[cunning laurel]

have you tried not using unseen and see how that feels?

[mint bobcat]

not when I use charon tbh

but I have when I use daggers and coat

I use every aspect but skull tbh

[cunning laurel]

yea just try not taking it, i dont expect its actually helping you much

[blissful fog]

lol i use every aspect but torches

[mint bobcat]

alright ill remove it from my arcana set up

[nova oar]

Don't take it for charon, it's hurting your runs massivley

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev/ArcanaDeck/?deck=WyJjMiIsImM1IiwiYzYiLCJjNyIsImMxMSIsImMxMiIsImMxMyIsImMxNCIsImMxNSIsImMxNiIsImMxNyIsImMyMSIsImMyMiIsImMyNCJd

[mint bobcat]

how so?

[nova oar]

The mana regen stops while channeling, meaning that it's eassentially worse than any gain boon because of how expensive it is

[mint bobcat]

I didnt notice that when playing

guess i will remove it then from my arcana

[crude dragon]

Also, you wanna go out of your way for Lucid Gain anyways on Charon

[hexed steeple]

okay, two things I’ve had happen over the last day

[unkempt zodiac]

unseen is like really solid for 3 arcana, but unfortunately it costs 5

[hexed steeple]

1.) beating Scylla so fast that someone in the crowd says “what, that’s it!?”

2.) taking sea star so often that Poseidon shows up, makes mention of how much I love taking Sea Star, and then gives me a Heroic tier sea star off rip

I love you, supergiant

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/543091263507922955/1507565268501532772/IMG_3994.jpg?ex=6a125d11&is=6a110b91&hm=4046df262c2cb07fe77f8d87ba89b8e0a59d86388a07d5e177ec52d593310704&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/543091263507922955/1507565269059506196/IMG_3995.jpg?ex=6a125d11&is=6a110b91&hm=89100bc29ccfa6922bba028788a42f82e1ae61d33e11a4af864d4dc6a9d4b66d&

this went so unbelievably hard

what a way to start your run

[crude dragon]

Even as a 4-cost, it'd be decent because that'd let you turn on Queen during a Fate's Whim run without overlapping Strength and Death

[unkempt zodiac]

oh true

yeah id love that

[crude dragon]

Plus it'd make the Moon corner be 2-3-4, mirroring the reroll corner's 3-4-5

[nova oar]

It's a scripted boon

[hexed steeple]

yeah, that’s obvious

the fact that SG lampshaded your predispositions to a specific boon and said “let’s make the player aware of the fact we’re tracking their decisions all over again, but this time, let’s give them the best version of the one thing they really like to see”

that’s neat

they didn’t have to do that

also, curious as to why you hate the Selene coat

[nova oar]

Shame it doesn't happen for anything else

[nova oar]

Cause it's the worst aspect

[hexed steeple]

lol why do you say that

I do some stupid work with it

that hex, with the right hammers and attack boon? yikes.

[nova oar]

Hexes in general are mid, and selene coat just happens to have one of the worst ones. The hex reequires omega moves, and buffs omega moves, problem is, coat omegas are really bad and also quite cheap

To get value out of the aspect you have to put so much into the hex it becomes not worth it

Along with path of stars not being consistent

You have better results playing it like mel coat

[hexed steeple]

no it doesn’t, the sky fall lights do enough damage on their own, and if you set yourself up with the Selene keepsake at the start, you get like eleven upgrade points or something dumb like that

add in the stuff you pick up, and it becomes a woodchipper

[nova oar]

Selene keepsake is a horrible start lmao, and if you think skyfall does alot of damage then i'm not going to keep arguing this because it's obv you're not at my level of the game yet

[hexed steeple]

uh huh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/543091263507922955/1507573025330167828/IMG_4003.jpg?ex=6a12644a&is=6a1112ca&hm=d5aada337275bf1acbf313bdaa57a746122b6e8e343b4124471fb494b3991900&

Nearly 450h. 100% content complete. All achievements.

been here since day one of EA.

You might want to stop stroking your own ego like that in public, it’s unbecoming

[nova oar]

What's your highest fear clear?

[hexed steeple]

idk, 40 something

[nova oar]

Figured lol

[hexed steeple]

figured what, that you got an ego the size of California on you

you sound like a toolbox

[nova oar]

Nah, you just haven't gotten good enough to know how the game works

[hexed steeple]

okay, I have obviously enjoyed the game for nearly five hundred hours, my experience is just as valid as yours

I’m sorry if you disagree

and I’m sorry you need to use this to feel some form of superiority in your life

[merry whale]

skyfall actually does do crazy dmg when u juice it up

[hexed steeple]

truly, heartbreaking stuff

[bitter stirrup]

Reiterating

[hexed steeple]

I mean, context is everything

[bitter stirrup]

Using the aspect on Selene just requires a lot of effort and investment which is why a lot of people like me don't like it

But many of the highest fear clears with Selene actually put in the effort to use it and it's pretty strong, it's just 1. They're the best players in the world so they can do it just for fun and 2. A lot of the time there's really no point

[merry whale]

ye, it also sucks when u play selene but then the game throws a small tree at u like "oh u wanted to actually invest in your hex? lolno"

[hexed steeple]

if you’re playing on a level of fear in which every single decision is life or death and you need very specific upgrade paths to remain viable as the run continues, then yeah, you’re going to funnel yourself into hard “this is the best setup” builds because you’re playing the game on a level of punishment that’s meant for people who like to smoke rocks lol

[merry whale]

high fear meta is also giga f-ed and shouldn't be considered the standard for balancing

like omega atks on staff is actually super insane, just not as reliable in high fear where charging omegas is a lot more risky and not much reward compared to simpler options

[bitter stirrup]

Well yes but the original discussion was based on "Selene is the worst aspect" and at ANY level of play even at 0 fear there will be a worst aspect just because something will be not as good as the rest

[merry whale]

i think east had the right idea when he put every aspect in s tier

[bitter stirrup]

And me personally I really like Selene just cause it's a coat and I love coats but the aspect itself I never use

[hexed steeple]

at that level of difficulty, in any game that offers anything like it, the chase to surmount it is almost always not being done for the pure fun of it, it’s instead being driven by one’s individual need to prove oneself better than the hardest thing a specific game can throw at them, which is fine, but it should never, ever be considered the basis for a standard

[merry whale]

ye, aspects in h2 are generally a lot more balanced and geared towards particular archetypes that actually hold up really well compared to h1

[hexed steeple]

it’s like considering LASO runs in Halo games “standard”

some people want to live that way, and I support that

but christ almighty, I question that level of need for misery

and if someone’s the kind of person to start pulling people’s card on how heavy their standard deadlifts are, all that does is create a gym less people want to go to

[merry whale]

yupp

[hexed steeple]

anyway, gonna go back to doing other stuff, y’all enjoy your weekend

[crude dragon]

Plus said investment also comes with a bunch of opportunity costs

Including, but not limited to: Burning 1 or 2 Keepsake slots on Ares and Selene keepsakes over other options, needing to take multiple Path of Stars rooms over Boons, and having to prioritize using the Coat's clunky Omegas over its better-feeling base Attack and Special

You could even extrapolate it further and say you're passing up the massive opportunity cost of not just using Nyx instead

[nova oar]

Or mel coat

(or shiva)

[jolly hound]

but I’m all like when she calls me little star

[reef sail]

She has my favorite voice in the game

[reef sail]

Why can’t they just combine nyx and Selene so spending magick is worth doing

[weary hawk]

Quick question, does concave stone work with vow of denial?

[crude dragon]

It will proc before Denial, yes

This doesn't save it from being the third-worst Keepsake in the game, though

[reef sail]

Third seems generous

[nova oar]

Third is generous, what do you consider worse?

[crude dragon]

Evil Eye and Bell

I can at least see an occasional argument for Stone if you're doing a "stack as much on Slow Cooker or Martial Art as physically possible" run

Gun to your head, name a single reason to take Evil Eye other than the Chaos Trial that forces it on you

[reef sail]

At least eye can’t brick your build

[median mauve]

I finally beat hades 2 24 fear. Now just need the 32 chronos …

[weary hawk]

Good luck!!!

Use aspect of Charon is so epic I love it

[jolly hound]

Rivals chronos but I wanna do side rooms in tart and lack the cojones for antler

[crude dragon]

The humble Lion Fang:

Just roll into Cheirloom in the final shop SMH

[nova oar]

Valid

[brazen laurel]

Is Athena a spoiler in this channel? Anyway, I screamed so loud at the reveal on my first trip to Olympus

[crude dragon]

No, since you can find her before the credits roll

[brazen laurel]

veery well

But yeah hers has probably been my favorite character reveal so far (I've made it to Chronos and Prometheus without defeating either)

[sacred socket]

Hey, I've noticed for a while now the Charon thingy in Crossroads is not accurately counting down whenever I do my 1st run after ordering nightmare, is this a known bug?

[blissful fog]

how do i get calling card?

do i have to beat yk who twice in a row?

[reef sail]

Yes

[blissful fog]

fuh

what's the best way to do it?

[reef sail]

Successfully

[blissful fog]

and now a serious answer please 😭

[reef sail]

Surface r3 will be your strongest moment to do the fight

But kind of rare to get midshop there

[blissful fog]

u can get fights on surface?

i thought it was only underworld

[reef sail]

Any midshop has a chance of the pact spawning

Which means, Erebus, Oceanus, thessaly, olympus

[blissful fog]

hmmm ok

[sacred socket]

Anyone?

[nova oar]

40%, to be precise

[nova oar]

It ticks down one every encounter, in what way is it inaccurate

[sacred socket]

The past 3 times I've done deep runs but it's only ticked down 3 minutes. Only happens when I first order but not afterwards

Just completed a surface run after ordering but only 3 mins passed

[nova oar]

So 3 minutes as in 3 units of the countdown? (40-37 for example)

[sacred socket]

Yes

[nova oar]

Yeah ok, did you die/win the runs?

[sacred socket]

2 of them I won, 1 I died to Prometheus

[nova oar]

Hmm

Have you altered your save in any way?

[reef sail]

Do your plants also have this issue?

[nova oar]

^

[sacred socket]

Nah I mainly play on Switch and don't swap midruns

[sacred socket]

They don't, the plants are fully sprouted

[nova oar]

Maybe try with the plants and do a chaos trial, see if the problem persists

[reef sail]

Weird issue

[sacred socket]

Yeah, but ima test with the plants more and collect screenshot

I only see it when I initially order and never afterwards which is annoying

Thanks both anyway

[reef sail]

I only ever ordered moon dust and now only psyche

[nova oar]

So it only breaks for one run and then works normally?

[sacred socket]

I usually order nightmare, so that 1 hour ends up taking forever lol

[sacred socket]

Yeah, it always counts correctly afterwards

[nova oar]

It's not an hour lol, it's the number of encounters you do

But yeah you do more than 3 encounters in a run

[sacred socket]

Ahhh right

Yh I'd understand if I was dying in 1st region lmao

[reef sail]

Have you tried ordering, passing time with a bath salts gift or etc, and then doing a run?

Could be a workaround if nothing else

[sacred socket]

I usually do but I'm working through post-game so there's not always an option to pass time

I don't think that affects it though, I would have definitely noticed if I passed time and it wasn't reflected

[nova oar]

So the game just hates you for a run for no reason

[brave urchin]

Aaaaaaah I am so annooooooyed.
150 runs into my new save and I cannot for frigg getting Ares-Selene god send!!!

[nova oar]

Have you tried using her aspect

[buoyant matrix]

have you done the incantation for godsent hexes

you have to use every hex at least once

[brave urchin]

of course rofl. 150 runs in. Everything in crossroad maxed out

its just bad luck that I start with Ares boon ,never touch another and get selene and she just "nope"-.

[buoyant matrix]

if you have a boon from ares the godsent is guaranteed to appear

are you playing with the aspect of selene?

[torpid sky]

Yeah, you do have to be using Selene Coat to get that Ares godsend, because it's for the Selene Coat-exclusive hex

[brave urchin]

Nope. Its so weird.

I prolly just have to undo nights eventually.

[buoyant matrix]

bruh what

[brave urchin]

I literally set up ares keepsake start, picking no other gods, then getting selene

[buoyant matrix]

can you send a screenshot in victory boasting

[brave urchin]

i have still yet to see the godsent lol

maybe its bugged.

[buoyant matrix]

of you having an ares boon and not having lance of ares

you can probably f10 that

[brave urchin]

Acording to wiki, Skyfall is the ares upgrade. But so far if I had ares, skyfall was not godsent.

[buoyant matrix]

you've gotten godsent nodes from other gods right?

[brave urchin]

So annoying, prolly i just have very bad rng.

[brave urchin]

of course. Lots of time. 150 runs in xd

Ares is the last on my minor prophecy.

[buoyant matrix]

no, it's not rng. you are 100% guaranteed to have the godsent node if you have ares

f10 that

[brave urchin]

I will try my next run

[lean bronze]

hi chat

[shy storm]

Dude credits are absolute cinima

Ended my last run with my quickest time as well

Slow cooker pog

[tranquil wren]

pog champ

[shy storm]

@tranquil wren as soon as I got past erebus bro their was no stopping me

[lean bronze]

[brave urchin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/891326486466953280/1507749533453385878/image.png?ex=6a1308ad&is=6a11b72d&hm=da14b16ffa9a6bbe92642f819ccf587d78c0a8991c91fa57c27f37a623e6f41f&

Yepp, I am coursed. THIS MAKES NO SENSE

SHE JUST DOESNT GIVE IT TO ME

REDO NIGHT....

[bitter stirrup]

You have to use her aspect of the coat

[brave urchin]

OMMMMMG:....

THATS WHY??

GOT IT NOW

THANKS

[nova oar]

I literally told you to do that

[buoyant matrix]

i told you twice you have to use the aspect of selene bruuuh

[torn wind]

Selene is so picky it’s dumb

Another reason she’s F tier for gameplay even if she’s S tier in our hearts

(Not really some of the hexes are really freaking good and I love them)

[brave urchin]

[jolly hound]

ngl more of my 45 wins than I’m proud of are because I took moon water and invested heavily into it

[jolly hound]

I have all the parts of the henious dream except for henious

[glass cloud]

can we get Hades Kart

[jolly hound]

Got it done

[eager bane]

i like point blank tripple moon lazor

[brisk island]

I just realized hades 2 is about half the original price in my currency is that intentional???

Actually apparently it did not change at all from early access so im assuming it’s not intentional lol

[limpid stream]

If I go from no fear on a weapon to say 10 do I lose out on the lower fear n-mare

[shut needle]

No

[eager gust]

how would i calculate damage with buffs

does it matter because its all additive?

and where do crits come in

[fathom lake]

Crits are like the last one

[eager gust]

i managed to hit a 2k damage blitz so im assuming thats a crit

400 base, crit, origination, furies, extended family, and uncommon grace

[cunning laurel]

you can see its a crit if it has !

mutual destruction too

[reef sail]

You have to achieve each testament in order

If it wants 2 and you do 10, you earn the one for 2 and the next one wants 4

Here we go, 40 Charon surface

Historically Charon surface and I don’t get along so well

[reef sail]

Eris slapped me

[lean bronze]

@spring breach four more aspects
We are into the hardest part of the challenge
The aspects i cant even leave erebus with

[cunning laurel]

what would those be

[spring breach]

I'm gonna guess Shiva Hel and Charon 👀

You had about 9 left to do earlier today so it must've been one heck of a grind 👀

[lean bronze]

mel axe
momus
hel
charon

shiva run was very close to losing but i locked in

now its only the aspects i wont touch with a ten foot stick left
Shiva is one of them but a coat is a coat

40f uw feels like an absolute joke now that ive done like fifty times

Cmon game
Urinary circle for an aspect im terrible at?

after seeing athena call’s run
Ive been inspired
If i cant beat erebus timer, then dont go to erebus

[reef sail]

Really unpleasant going all run with no special boon on Moros 😭

[reef sail]

I did what 👀

[lean bronze]

have you ever tried beating 40f with no atk or spec boon on morrigan

[reef sail]

Nooo

[lean bronze]

charon run

[reef sail]

I just lost a moros run to typhon because I had no damage and was playing too aggro

😔

Hestia showed up once and said bye forever

[lean bronze]

as a moros main with over 120 runs of experience
I grant you the power of moros

[reef sail]

Yeyyy

[lean bronze]

now show us a moros victory

[primal vault]

how do i earn the hidden aspects? i heve rank V in some aspects but havent gotten any dialogue

[nova oar]

You need rank 5 non mel aspect and all 3 aspects unlocked, then talk to the relevant npc

[lean bronze]

momus is an anubis lite

[cunning laurel]

push it higher then 👀

[worldly mantle]

Or run it faster

[cold mantle]

do two runs of chaos below count for the prophesy or do they have to be new ones for the 2 consecutive wins"?

i doubt my ability to do a chaos above run LOL

oh wait is it not consecutive and i just fully read the wording wrong

[worldly mantle]

should be either consecutive

so you can do two chaos below

[cold mantle]

gotcha gotcha

cause the exact words are "prevail in any of the chaos above or chaos below trials at least twice without fail"

[worldly mantle]

key-word "any"

second key-word "or"

gives you a lot of freedom

[cold mantle]

oh successively not successfully okay i wasn't wrong the first time

i can read chat trust

[worldly mantle]

trusting

[cold mantle]

😅

[reef sail]

The funny thing is the random arcana was more stressful than the random fear aspect

For me anyway

[cold mantle]

real

i mean the base chaos above/below don't have fear and i am NOT trying the great's for the consecutive runs at least

but yeah

[torn wind]

Can at least do it for the first one

If you clear it then you already got one of your two

Also there's nothing stopping you from undoing night mid-run

[cold mantle]

except honor /j

oop

im just a little scaredy boi

[lean bronze]

50f is rough

[vapid igloo]

So i had an idea for if they do Hades 3 have it involve going into the Underworld of other Mythologies

[nova oar]

If I had a nickel...

[vapid igloo]

i feel like i subjected this before as well

[prime iron]

hades 3 should just be the colloseum with all the gods and goddesses fighting each other

super smash bros hades edition

[proud swift]

Hades 3 will be a farming simulator where Persephone finally gets to be a proper mother for her kids and Chronos bonds with her over their shared love of agriculture.

[hushed cloak]

hades 3 will be a card game skelly made up to play with mel and zag

[gritty meteor]

where do i get bronze

[nova oar]

Ephrya

[lean bronze]

im losing hope on ever getting all aspects 40f done
im doing the easier route (uw) and its geniunely impossible with some aspects for me

charon and mel axe feel like 50f on 40f

[gritty meteor]

where is that 💔

[nova oar]

Surface

[nova oar]

Have you optimised all your vows, arcana, and keepsakes?

[heady socket]

try abusing dashing heave hammer

[limpid stream]

Not counting unlocks how much nmare is needed to max out the arsenal? For some reason I forgot to do testament of the night and have just been farming it from the box thingy

[crude dragon]

60 for the base aspects, and I forget how much each Hidden takes

If it's 1/2/2/3/3, it'd be another 66. Plus 1 extra for Shiva's unlock

[limpid stream]

So 126 total?

[crude dragon]

127, assuming I'm remembering the hidden aspect upgrade costs correctly

I think it might be 1/1/2/2/3? So 54 total?

[lean bronze]

im not sure if i have

[lean bronze]

night bloom is too fun

that has to be the biggest flaw fr
its too fun to pass up on, but its not that good

[lean bronze]

can i dm you for sending images of the stuff im using

[worldly mantle]

have you considered sun worshipper

[brave urchin]

I swear, the Dracon miniboss becomes 300% harder with a shadow servant.....

[bitter stirrup]

It's so funny how lopsided the difficulty range is for Shadow Servants

Queen Lamia, Twins, Eye, totally free

[lean bronze]

yes
but i didnt get it

[worldly mantle]

Unfortunate

[nova oar]

Yes

[empty jackal]

Anyone got any idea what the fair fight throphie fullh means? It says to win 1000 gold from nemesis now is that omly in the get more kills or does ot also count the selling a boon to her,damaging her ect?

[weak fossil]

@empty jackal it's more of a grind then anything, I kinda just got it after playing for a long time , you get 100 gold for winning the killing competition so you just have to do it 10 times and win

[empty jackal]

So its only the killing one that counts toward it?

[raven pecan]

does anyone know the average amount of gameplay of hadesII is?

[nova oar]

Easily 100hrs

[raven pecan]

oh ok

[nova oar]

Yes

[raven pecan]

thx

[empty jackal]

I see thanks

[raven pecan]

not to sound like a pred, but do you live in New Zealand by any chance?

[empty jackal]

I dont

[raven pecan]

oh

ok

i had a friend there once who goes by the name zac attack

[cursive nacelle]

Highly invested night bloom makes both region 4 bosses significantly easier.

Which is pretty damn good

[ionic sedge]

Huh Fate's Whim is pretty fun

I thought it would be hellish but the Keepsakes for it really makes the lack of Rolls or Olympian Keepsakes worth it

[nova oar]

Jpom is the strongest keepsake

[lean bronze]

im gonna try a night bloom run by chucking shiva omegas off-screen in the underworld

[ionic sedge]

yeah Lv4 on the entire night during Fate's Whim is insane

Also damn the game didn't make it clear that these Fate's Whim Keepsakes stay on even if you switch to other keepsakes as long as you don't break the requirements

[nova oar]

yes it does

[ionic sedge]

I'm saying like I thought Jeweled Pom and Time Piece (didn't have Calling Card yet at the time) was like only during it's equipped

which contributed to my idea that "man this looks like poo"

Which is a bit odd because this game loves clarifying stuffs with its tooltips but oh well

[nova oar]

Calling card isn't amazing meta wise anyway

[ionic sedge]

Not that major of an issue

[nova oar]

Have you figured out the difference between attack and attacks yet?

[ionic sedge]

Yes

"Attack" is just normal attack, "Attacks" is both normal attack and Omega attacks

Another thing that the game weirdly didn't hammer down with its tooltips

[tranquil wren]

it does tell you in the tooltips

[heady quest]

hey i completed my path of the star (i even had one left last time i got offered it, but that got discarded anyway because i had nothing to upgrade). Now one of the choices for the next room is a moon gift!

what would that give me? would you consider it a bug?

i did it just for science, and nothing "magic" happened, just the interface to choose, but no choice to be done. at least there's the button to exit

[nova oar]

Same thing again

Not a bug, just a bit of an oversight I think

[hushed cloak]

paid 450 for a boon from heph to get a 36 hp fortitude

and a double heart was right there for 250

ouuuuuuuuugh hhhh

[lean bronze]

relatable moment

[safe radish]

are fish useful outside of selling for bone currency?

[cursive nacelle]

nope thats it

[gritty meteor]

whats the best attack boon for melione aspect skull

[bitter stirrup]

Hera and Apollo

[gritty meteor]

dont have hera so apollo it is

[buoyant matrix]

hera and apollo but if you have your arcana fully upgraded you can take whatever

[safe radish]

Surface feel way harder than underworld, beat underworld a handful of times now but surface I cant beat the boss yet

[buoyant matrix]

yeah it's designed that way. you should level up your arcana and learn how to put together a better build for your aspect

you get so many boons in ephyra, you can get some disgusting damage up before you even reach the first boss

[safe radish]

Ive been trying to use the daggers with trick knives, but I just unlocked the hidden daggers so maybe that will help a lot since they do more damage on their own

[buoyant matrix]

hidden knives are great but harder to play

[safe radish]

i mean the daggers of moriggan or whatever they are called

[buoyant matrix]

yeah i know

[last cloak]

so i need help, how do you play the aspect of medea?

[crude dragon]

We know, Morrigan requires you to learn how to efficiently proc Triads

[last cloak]

im used to mel skull and just unlocked medea and idk how to use it well

[crude dragon]

Alternate Attack and Special

[last cloak]

just one attack? or more than one?

[crude dragon]

Or as I tend to say, pull a pin, Special in

[crude dragon]

Just one, spamming the Attack roots you and counteracts the mobility and aggression that the aspect is built around

[last cloak]

gotchya

so should it look like im just constantly dashing?

or specialing

forgot dashing is a different thing

[crude dragon]

Pretty much, you want to be looping your explosions

[young dust]

if melinoë picks up too much of eris's rubbish

would she become

smellinoë

[crude dragon]

Only if she doesn't go by the Hot Springs afterwards

[marsh spear]

Ok, hilarious discovery:
Slothful from Chaos apparently gives negative move speed, so the recoil from revaal is actually making Mel slide backwards a long distance

[bitter stirrup]

Same for special on staff

Can also happen when you're afflicted with miasma

[gloomy tulip]

ughhh I got bridal glow as a 2nd boon of the run but my 1st was tranquil gain 😔

[fathom lake]

Dont take it

IT will come back later with more boons and mroe gamble

(and it could still hit tranquil gain and it would be hilarious)

[gloomy tulip]

yeahh I didn't, ended up getting hera's legendary in oceanus and this run has been absolutely jaw dropping

anyway on that same note is there a max amount of boons the boon tab can display

ooooh a 2nd page comes up

[eager pecan]

I only discovered the second page a couple days ago bc I had an absolutely insane surface run

[gloomy tulip]

this is my 2nd win lmfao

underground

I could spend like 20 mins breaking down just how insanely lucky I got at multiple points

[reef sail]

There is a max I don’t know what it is though. I guess probably two pages

[gloomy tulip]

... yet it took me til the mourning fields to get an attack boon since I really wanted aphrodite (WHO'S BEEN IN MY POOL SINCE EREBUS AND WHO'S KEEPSAKE I EQUIPED IN OCEANUS)