h2-discussion

[nova oar]

That too

Yep, more things could multihit zag

[proud swift]

You could only reach 64 heat (the maximum) with Hell mode enabled.

[formal kindle]

I see

Thanks for explaining that, you two!

[proud swift]

It's pretty easy to see why Hell mode never came to Hades 2 since its overall mostly useless.

[formal kindle]

I appriciate you two doing that

[nova oar]

If it was in h2 I would absolutely start another save but yeah not alot of players are ever going to touch it

[formal kindle]

For now im on another break from hades 2, until i get the ability to play on a bigger screen

Playing on a small one makes avoiding attacks difficult, at least for me

Either that or i just suck

[forest flare]

Would still be so cool

To have as an option!

[crude dragon]

<@&456908176877551658> Scrap this automaton

Thank you

[calm garden]

what are you playing on? ive heard some say they find it easier on controller instead of m+k as well

i personally perfer m+k but that is mostly because i never game on anything except pc

[jolly hound]

ngl handheld switch mode should count for 5 fear

[nova oar]

I did get a new monitor recently, maybe I could beat 62 again now

[nova oar]

Fr, I can't imagine it would be too difficult to put into the game as an option

[pine flume]

is Charon still the best aspect for the axe for high Fear?

[torn wind]

No

It's honestly probably the worst axe for high fear

[pine flume]

what would you recommend?

[torn wind]

Depending heavily though on what your definition of high fear is

[pine flume]

trying to get 20 fear unlock, thats all.

surface run

[torn wind]

At 20 fear that's barely considered mid fear. I did my first 32 surface with Charon Axe and it went fine

Just build-dependent

Really nothing is better or worse at 20 fear

Use what you want

I forget my definition of high fear is like 55+

[nova oar]

Any aspect works for 20f, that's not very high

[torn wind]

20 fear is Time 3 Frenzy 2 Scars 2 Debt 2 hubris 1

Or even if you want, Time 2 Frenzy 1 scars 1 debt 2 menace 2 hubris 2 shadow 1 scars 2 grit 1

If you're afraid of time 3 and frenzy

[strong rapids]

yesterday I said I never play with frenzy but I checked and I've actually had it on like. for all my runs pretty much

I genuinely forgot about it and thought I was playing at regular speed

kinda wanna do a run without it now to see what it's like

[torn wind]

It makes everything feel like syrup

Just slow and sluggish and waiting an oddly long time for anything to spawn

[crude dragon]

Mel

[proper seal]

console release almost here

[worldly bobcat]

It’s in two days right? Still haven’t gotten the final ending for hades 1 damn

[nova oar]

1

[worldly bobcat]

It’s frustrating cuz I’m such a completionist that part of me wants to put off getting hades 2 even when I’ve gotten the true ending soon cos I’ll still not have done other stuff

And I know that when I start playing hades 2 I won’t go back to one

[forest flare]

I have 1 day to finish ps4 version

!!!

[foggy sable]

I love getting nuke builds

randomly just hitting chronos with the cast build is awesome

[proper seal]

as midnight is close to hitting itll be 1 day left

[foggy sable]

"chronos be like, I've got my whole life ahead of me, lol no you dont, the charon build is coming"

[proper seal]

I have definitely felt that like I got the Epilogue for Hades 1 but not all the achievements

gets me questioning if I should go back to Hades 1 and finish the remaining achievements

[nova oar]

It's not important for h2

[worldly bobcat]

Just checked and hades 1 was only 4 bucks more expensive on ps5 than on pc, so hopefully that stays the same for hades 2 and it’s only like 48 Australian bucks

[nova oar]

It was 45 for me when I bought it in ea

[wide wigeon]

h2 out on ps5?

any new updates on PC too? like the heracles scene

[nova oar]

No, One more day

[nova oar]

The only thing we have confirmed is that scene

[wide wigeon]

the process to get there prolly new too right

I wonder if thats in the epilogue cause I reset my main file

[nova oar]

Yeah he'll appear in crossroads for the first time

[wide wigeon]

I gotta resolute time in like 1 day (I cant my laptop isnt with me)

[dusky mountain]

Apart from Circe and Persephone, are there any aspects that work inherently better if you wanna go for a cast build?

Charon would also only work with some specific casts

[nova oar]

Thanatos

Pan

[dusky mountain]

Why thanatos? does mortality work with cast?

[nova oar]

Yep

[dusky mountain]

didnt even think of that

[boreal rover]

What time will hades 2 be available on consoles? I am up all night waiting tonight 😁

[forest flare]

What timezone are u?

[boreal rover]

Pst

[forest flare]

Im not sureeee

U can check the store

Should say

(I didnt find pst as a timezone on the launch times from the twitter post so im unsure!)

[torn wind]

Asking for timezone is funny when you don’t know what time it is on any timezone

[dusky mountain]

you cant even buy it in the store yet, so that wont help

[forest flare]

It says the time on ps5

[forest flare]

Welp they released launch time based on the timezones

[torn wind]

I know it was just a funny interaction

[forest flare]

Lal

[dusky mountain]

no it doesnt

it only gives you a countdown once you bought it/preordered it

but since it isnt even available for purchase yet, you dont see anything as of now

[tropic ravine]

Is there a secret dlc coming with the update

[dusky mountain]

no, but we get "some bonus content and quality-of-life improvements"

[forest flare]

Ohhh mah bad

[formal kindle]

I was playing on a rog xbox ally

[formal kindle]

I wasnt playing on switch, but still the screen was pretty small

[haughty gate]

hello, does anyone know if there is a specific time in the UK that h2 is dropping on ps5 tomorrow?

it only lets me wishlist so i can’t pre-order for the count down people mentioned up there :’)

[dusty topaz]

According to their release map it should be dropping at 18.00. https://bsky.app/profile/supergiantgames.bsky.social/post/3mj5mvdubuc2m

[haughty gate]

Thank youuuu

Nooo 6pm is so late 😭😭

[hazy parrot]

zagreus playable character confirmed

its gonna happen trust

[tropic ravine]

Yes

[main copper]

OMG its Zagreus from the Hit game Hades

[formal kindle]

I hope they will add melinoë as a playable character

[hazy parrot]

cope. maybe in sea of sorrow

[formal kindle]

Let me have my dreams

[hazy parrot]

my dream nail says you want traitor lord in hades 3

[formal kindle]

I want hades 2 vr mode

(Thats a joke)

[hazy parrot]

hades 2 first person would go crazy

basically ultrakill atp

[pale pier]

The Heracles bath scene is making me think they might be thinking of adding him as a romanceable character

And he did have over 100 lovers so

[main copper]

I hope we get multiple gods fighting Typhon instead of Just Zeus

And maybe a NPC room on the summit(Never gonna hapoen)

[nova oar]

Neuron activation

[hazy parrot]

i want to see hyperion

[wispy forum]

that's one of my main gripes with the typhon fight, as well as the surface in general. it seems like melinoe is doing most of the work

[nova oar]

...

That's the point

The gods are so busy fighting elsewhere that they leave it to her to clear that route, and then zues, the most powerful olympian, hops in to help herr out

[wispy forum]

yeah, i'm aware, but it doesn't feel that way

[nova oar]

There's tons of dialogue about it

[wispy forum]

for example, even though ares is literally bloody and fresh from killing, we never actually see him fighting in mount olympus

i think more could have been done to make the fighting appear more desperate and make the gods seem more involved, especially with regard to typhon, since typhon is a threat of such magnitude that the entirety of the surface could be dedicated to fighting him

maybe instead of just zeus fighting alongside mel, we can see other gods who also give a helping hand, for example

[nova oar]

We already get athena, zeus, and (technically dio but he doesnt count), any more would just be clutter, and they would serve no purpose

The gods alr give mel the boons

That's the help you get from them

[wispy forum]

whether or not they'd be clutter definitely depends on how they're done

[nova oar]

Tyhpon isn't the only threat on the surface, as the gods state in their dialogue

Mel is extremley powerful and capable of killing him anyway

[wispy forum]

yes, again, i'm aware. i'm suggesting the story/interactions be shifted to account for these issues (or at least what i feel are issues)

[wispy forum]

also 0% shot no freaking way she is

[nova oar]

I don't think it would make sense

[nova oar]

with the help she already has*

And you can fully defeat typhon with no keepsakes or boons or anything

[wispy forum]

typhon is supposedly powerful enough to challenge ALL the gods combined. mel should stand only the slightest chance even when she's stacked with boons. fighting against typhon is supposed to be, quite literally, apocalyptic

[nova oar]

You'r eunderestimating how strong mel actually is

[spring thistle]

Is there a way to find more ressources? I never have any luck

[nova oar]

She's still a godess lol

[wispy forum]

i don't think you quite understand who typhon is either

[nova oar]

I am aware of who he is

And mel can still cast spells on him that work

[wispy forum]

typhon is in greek mythology, singlehandedly responsible for nearly annihilating all of the olympians, and he's the only one who ever actually came close

[wispy forum]

yes, via gameplay contrivance

[nova oar]

Each familiar correseponds to a resource

[spring thistle]

it affect the luck to find too?

[nova oar]

Yep

[spring thistle]

alright then thank you

[wispy forum]

we can band all the olympians together and they'd still have a very high chance of losing against typhon. that's just how insane the monster is

as it stands though, the fight doesn't feel quite as insane. that's all i'm pointing out

[tranquil wren]

in some stories zeus just solos him very easily

[wispy forum]

so help from more gods, more involvement from more gods, etc, would be welcome in that regard imo

[wispy forum]

sure, but there's a lot of variation in terms of greek mythology anyway

[tranquil wren]

yeah, so why is it a shocker when hades 2 is different

[nova oar]

That's how giving the boons to mel works, it's effectivley several olmpians, plus mel, who is very strong in her own right, and then also what hell said

[spring thistle]

that's why unrivaled Typhon exist

[nova oar]

67f typhon is true typhon

[wispy forum]

because they're clearly going for the version of typhon that's the one that CAN solo all the olympians on his own

[nova oar]

Otherwise the game just wouldn't work lol

You can't have lore accurate myth and a working game

[spring thistle]

If Hades was lore accurate, Zagreus would have never defeated his father.

[pale pier]

Doubt, it is myth accurate, Zeus always fought Typhon personally

[nova oar]

And the whole hecate thing would make nos sense

[wispy forum]

• hades admits that chronos was so difficult to take down that he needed the help of all his brothers
• even chronos knows that bringing up typhon is tantamount to mutually assured destruction

this isn't the version of typhon that can get easily solo'd; it's the version that can solo everyone

[pale pier]

Bro, if Hades was lore accurate, Hades wouldn't even be his daddy

[tranquil wren]

tbh I still don't get the issue

mel gets a bunch of boons from not only gods but immortal/undead beings like medea and circe, not to mention her weapons + magic

zag and mel both have incredible advantages

[nova oar]

despite the fact he doesn't, whicch disproves your point

[wispy forum]

i'm just saying more direct involvement would be nice

[tranquil wren]

isn't zeus hurling a billion volts at typhon not enough? lol

[wispy forum]

typhon is synonymous with the apocalypse, so his fight should feel like, well, the apocalypse, and you'd think we'd see more people for a fight that massive

[wispy forum]

absolutely not lmao

[tranquil wren]

like if that hits mel she's finished

or like, anyone else

[wispy forum]

not typhon lmao

[tranquil wren]

...yeah, which is why mel still needs to finish the job

[wispy forum]

cool, so you admit that zeus needs help and can't do it alone. would be cool if we saw that by actually having more gods in the fight helping zeus out

it is, after all, the monster that represents the apocalypse

[tranquil wren]

what? I just said mel does it with zeus' help

also, she doesn't even permanently kill him, she just sends him packing

[pale pier]

You guys are going way too deep for a literal video game. Myth wise, Zeus could obliviate Typhon alone, and he has

[tranquil wren]

I've already mentioned that

I just like talking

[wispy forum]

• zeus's thunder bolt is powerful enough to blitz anyone except typhon
• zeus still needs help to kill typhon
• melinoe is therefore there to help out
• since zeus needs help anyway, as he should, other gods could also logically be there to help out

[tranquil wren]

you're forgetting that they're all fighting the other enemies invading olympus

[spring thistle]

except my man dyonisus

[nova oar]

I said this too

[tranquil wren]

drunk king

[hollow copper]

They could make it more realistic by giving Typhon 10x health

[tranquil wren]

I came late to the convo tbf 😔

[wispy forum]

it's just stemming from mild disappointment, is all. the buildup to typhon was insane to me and did a wonderful job at instilling an incredible sense of paranoia and dread. i remember reading about someone doubting if a freaking alien invasion or whatever was outright happening lol. that's what the buildup felt like, and then the fight itself just felt way too... easy

i don't mean easy in the literal gameplay sense, but easy as in, "did mel even struggle there?"

[tranquil wren]

vow of grit 3

[spring thistle]

and making it one shots you too just by entering the fight

[tranquil wren]

lol

[spring thistle]

since I died twice to him yeah

[hollow copper]

I've seen people on YT saying Hades 2 is way harder than Hades 1. Talking about Chronos specifically

Typhon too, but Chronos first

Tbh, I found him very easy

It took me around 40 runs in Hades 1 to win

And only 10 in Hades 2

[spring thistle]

Really? I barely lost to him personally. Though just like Hades 1 I spent 30 nights to kill him once then killed him 7 times in a row

[hollow copper]

Yeahhh

After I beat Chronos for the first time, I lost to him only once

[spring thistle]

Me too and it was unrivaled Cronos

[hollow copper]

What is unrivaled Chronos?

[nova oar]

Harder version of the fight

[hollow copper]

Wtf

That's cracked

[tranquil wren]

all bosses have harder versions that you need to unlock

so to unlock vow of rivals 2 you need to beat vow of rivals 1 on both underworld and surface

[hollow copper]

Wait, why are they called unrivaled? Isn't the modified called "rivals"?

[tranquil wren]

they're unrivaled because no one can rival them

[hollow copper]

Done 👍
Going for #2 now

[spring thistle]

Unrivaled Eris is easy. Unrivaled Scylla on the other hand

[hollow copper]

@tranquil wren holy heck, you have 202

[tranquil wren]

lol yeah, it was very exhilarating

[hollow copper]

Do you play modded?

[tranquil wren]

a little bit. I played the strawberry jam collection and loved many of the levels

[hollow copper]

GM heartside?

[tranquil wren]

unironically though, the difficulty is ramping up each time a collection releases. I can barely do expert levels now haha

best thing about farewell golden is that it's intermediate level difficulty, it's just long

[hollow copper]

Difficulty inflation 🪦

[tranquil wren]

true!

[hollow copper]

At some point, farewell is going to become beginner

[nova oar]

Which game is this?

[hollow copper]

Celeste

[tranquil wren]

celeste!

[hollow copper]

I should make a Melinoe skinmod...

[tranquil wren]

omg true

[nova oar]

oooo ok

[hollow copper]

Wait, let me share something with you

[nova oar]

Did the main story a while back was never too interested

[tranquil wren]

you might be interested to know that the main character is trans

also farewell is one of the best platforming levels I've played in any game

[nova oar]

That's why I got the game LMFAO

[hollow copper]

Celeste is the best platforming game ever (maybe not, but good contender)

[nova oar]

I really enjoyed it

[dire sand]

Celeste good game

Also hi hellish fun to see you're still hanging out here

[tranquil wren]

lol hey tran!

[dire sand]

Hiya

Still havent played 1.0 of this game oopsies

[tranquil wren]

might as well wait for tomorrow

[dire sand]

I am slightly entirely lost in league of legends

[tranquil wren]

we're getting a new patch

[dire sand]

Wahoo!

I think I'll consider playing it and then forget to every day

Between job, league, and occasional playtesting for strange scaffold, and maintaining a social life, I don't have as much time as I used to

It is what it is

[tranquil wren]

ever since graduating uni, I've lost much of my social life and I'm still jobless

[spring thistle]

Anubis aspect is awful

[tranquil wren]

so (un)fortunately I've got quite a lot of time on my hands

[tranquil wren]

no it's peak, trust

[dire sand]

Hope that resolves itself soon

Graduated tho, pog

Been there the like nothing after is weird

[tranquil wren]

apollo/hera on special and poseidon/hestia on attack, okay? :)

[dire sand]

My uni time is further and further behind me

Strange to think it's basically been 3 years

[tranquil wren]

it's been almost a year for me 😔
still miss it

might apply for a phd though, so that might be inchresting

[dire sand]

I miss the ability of considering phds lol

[tranquil wren]

lmao

[dire sand]

But none fit

[pale pier]

No it is not, it's genuinely one of the easiest runs aspects

You just don't know how to use it

[dire sand]

(Historical) game studies is too niche and would largely mean I move to Finland

[proper seal]

Anubis is good if you play it well

[pale pier]

Real, Anubis is my main

[dire sand]

And finland is sorta far from uh

checks notes

Every single person I know

[spring thistle]

It's awful for my type of gameplay

[dire sand]

Then play your type no

What is stopping you

[tranquil wren]

gotta play it good
attack and then spam special and omega special
if you're slick you can position yourself to get the omega attack to hit an enemy (dash in then dash out)

[pale pier]

Anubis is great if you're like me and prefer range style play which isn't very possible with most weapons in hades 2

At least Hades 1 had the gun (f you eris, give me my gun back)

[dire sand]

I was saying in ea the final weapon shoulda just been a deagle

No lore no nothing just here's a deagle

[tranquil wren]

lol
people already complain about the coat being too anachronistic

[spring thistle]

achievements

[dire sand]

There is no way

[pale pier]

I'm still annoyed at the fact that we are never able to use gigaros, why does Zag gets it

[spring thistle]

fun police

[dire sand]

Ah yes the famously historically accurate game hades 2

As we all know these events truly took place

[pale pier]

Getting all achievements and being forced to play with each weapon is what made me realize that all of them are super fun to play with, people just have preferences

[dire sand]

Also games should be fun if an achievement isn't fun

Just dont get it idk

Like don't makes yourself do stuff that isn't fun to do to you

[spring thistle]

I was fine with the achievement to play with everything, I found the coat pretty fun.

[dire sand]

That's what jobs are for

[spring thistle]

This is how I spent 300 dollars a month on games that I only played till I finished it. Doing the platinum forces me to buy less games

[dire sand]

I have 100 plats I know this

Just I only plat games that are fun to me to plat

[spring thistle]

Also I just don't like anubis aspect what's wrong with me not liking it. I don't blame you for liking it

[pale pier]

I hated the supay torches but ended up liking them after having to play with them for a bit

[tranquil wren]

I initially didn't like it either but now it's my favourite staff aspect

[pale pier]

Real

[dire sand]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1148605654869737613/1493258787661021184/Screenshot_20260413_163703_PS_App.jpg?ex=69de511e&is=69dcff9e&hm=c117ce2ba181d9d5088bca10131814a54281e1a5a69e99b0488dd21cbb1474f7& not even a lie lmao

Anyway

[dire sand]

Im not saying it's good or bad im mostly like I used to chase achievements and it made games less fun

And changing to just play game for fun dont when not fun

Was a very positive life change

[pale pier]

After I got all the achievements and finished the story, I didn’t touch the game for like 2 months

I went back to Hades 1 to finish that

[spring thistle]

I do not go for every achievement ever. For example I recently platined every resident evil games but some dlcs were just straight up unfair or boring so i did not do them. I don't think Hades 2 is unfair just some weapons I will clearly just play them for the achievement lol

[dire sand]

Ye fair

[buoyant matrix]

has a very unique play style

and if you don't know how to properly play it, it'll come off as very weak

[fathom lake]

I used to hate Anubis but i got the hang of it an now i love it

The attack its like an extra cast but weird its hard to get used to not spam the attack like all the other weapons

The sspecial its pretty strong though

[spring thistle]

I'm doing an underground run right now and it's fun on normal rooms like the fishes in oceanos dies instantly but on boss it's more of a waiting game

[split shuttle]

go to the self promo channel

[open trellis]

[hazy parrot]

@tranquil wren i am also likewise impressed dude that is CRACKED

[hazy parrot]

lmaoooo

[fathom lake]

Really excited for tomorrow patch :D

[hazy parrot]

oh yes pls id use it

[tranquil wren]

same! hercules bathing scene!

[hazy parrot]

no it 100% is

celeste and hades 2 are my top 2 games oat man i just cant get enough of them

[fathom lake]

Prometheus keepsake real trust me

[hazy parrot]

i love modded its sooo fun. im playing some advanced maps rn. also checking out the crossover collab

[hollow copper]

Sameeeeeeee
Hades 2 became my #2 in a week

[hazy parrot]

i used to speedrun celeste a couple years back

got my PB down to like a 45:1X and then quit

i wanted to get a sub 45 but this PB was so close to my sum of best i just decided to stop

[hazy parrot]

factsss. hades 2 is so impressive cause i didnt think theyd be able to improve on a game as good as hades and they somehow did. wiild

[hazy parrot]

prometheus romancable pls and thanks

[fathom lake]

yes

[hollow copper]

Improve is a MASSIVE understatement

It's transcendent

[granite wigeon]

Skull

[hollow copper]

Good evening, Miku cat

[granite wigeon]

I still stand by H1 being better

[hazy parrot]

only story wise

[granite wigeon]

Good afternoon

[granite wigeon]

No, gameplay is better

[spring thistle]

If they do Hades 3, i don't know how they could top it

[hazy parrot]

gameplay wise h2 solos im afraid

[granite wigeon]

H1 gameplay more fun

[spring thistle]

[hazy parrot]

to each their own

personally, i cant go back to hades after playing hades 2

[granite wigeon]

H2 feels too clunky to me, don't like that you arbitrarily cannot animation cancel some moves but you can for others

[hazy parrot]

thats a valid critique

going back to hades now, the combat felt much more mashy to me

which is crazy cause i never felt that in the 300 hours i had in hades before hades 2 dropped

[granite wigeon]

Double dash is too strong in h1

It's just the answer to everything

I'd suggest for ppl to try Hades 1 fresh file

Mono dash for the Hades fight is very fun

With double dash you just spam dash as soon as you see any telegraph, not as fun

[spring thistle]

I have a lore question. Is Polypheme Poseidon's son in the game? In the mythology it's Poseidon who cursed Odysseus for tricking his son.

[granite wigeon]

In theory H2 solves the double dash issue but I really dislike being stuck in animations

[hazy parrot]

i feel like as a result of taking away double dash, the combat in hades 2 feels more intentional

[granite wigeon]

I've been doing some H2 FF attempts

[hazy parrot]

hows that going?

[granite wigeon]

Sofar furthest only to second area

[hazy parrot]

keep at it man youll get it

[granite wigeon]

Having to sit out animations gives such a large window to get hit

But an option is to not use the special since the dashattack and first two standing attacks are able to be canceled

Oh that reminds me, H2 also encourages almost camping out enemies, feels to me that there are so many ranged options compared to H1 + animations making attacking less safe you are incentivised to stay back and take pot shots

Maybe I should do some staff mid ish fear to get used to it before doing more fresh file

[fathom lake]

Hades 1 gameplay its fun but not nearly as fun as Hades 2

[main copper]

No theres a conversation where Poseidon says its just a rumor

[fathom lake]

I feel like its really hard to control the gameplay in hades 1

[granite wigeon]

I think H1 is much more fun lol

[fathom lake]

Agree to disagree

[granite wigeon]

Perhaps skillissue2

[fathom lake]

Yes that too

[granite wigeon]

I will see if H2 wins me over after I do some high fear

I've only done as much as the final statue

[fathom lake]

I got used to Hades 2 weapons a lot more
Theres so many powerful fun thigns to do at higher fear instead of just
Shield-ing,,,

[granite wigeon]

I agree that shield in H1 is too strong

But high heat gun or bow is pretty viable

[fathom lake]

Truth its i cant leave Jeweled Pom, Calling Card, Aspect or Persephone AND pom pom pom

Also Bridal Glow

Bridal Glow my beloved

[hazy parrot]

Jpom is sooo funny because the moment i got used to hades 2, i was like "wow I get 10 full rolls which is sm more than in hades, and i can roll both boons and doors there is sm more control you have over your build in hades 2 I love it"

then 1.0 dropped and ive never rolled anything again since. 0 rolls gigachad babyyy

[fathom lake]

Yeah i love how it encourages randomizing everything
The opposite of hades 1

[ebon sigil]

i'm addicted to jpom

[spring thistle]

I hate how you can't reset a run. Like come on don't tell me to finish the underworld with nergal

[crude dragon]

Just do it

SMH

[ebon sigil]

you eventually get a incantation that can reset the seed

[jolly hound]

just win

bonk bonk

Also low level nergal is ass

[spring thistle]

really?

[spring thistle]

It was the chaos trial

[crude dragon]

Nergal needs to be rank 5 more than even Momus

[ebon sigil]

which chaos trial... if they are prebaked, you can't change much.

Also, the incantation I was talking about was from the normal testaments, not chaos trials

[spring thistle]

major infernal

[ebon sigil]

i'm guessing you mean great chaos below... I'm not sure if those reset, I'm guessing they would, since they are "random"

[spring thistle]

yeah but i can't forfeit the run it just put me back before

[ebon sigil]

if you undo the night, just do something else, that'll reset the seed for the next chaos greater you choose I think.

if you do a simple undo without something else to reset the seed, you're stuck

[granite wigeon]

All my homies hate the staff special

[hollow copper]

Why did you not roll after 1.0?

[crude dragon]

Because there's Keepsakes that you get after the credits roll that require you to not use the reroll cards

And those keepsakes are all incredible

(They also require you to not use god-summoning keepsakes)

[granite wigeon]

What are reroll cards?

Oh the arcana that give dice?

[crude dragon]

Yeah

[halcyon rain]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-silly-car-car-stare-10-thousand-yard-stare-10-thousand-yard-gif-14200271775968563996

ah, forgot gifs don't work here

special is probably the best part of staff tho lol

[granite wigeon]

I hate that you are locked into the animation

[static flax]

Guys in about 12 hours I'll be playing the game for the first time
So I've been wondering if anyone has any general tips for it?
Even though I've played the first game

[ebon sigil]

It's very different. You don't have two dashes. Cast is more like a snare now, and many enemies are balanced around you having them snared. So keep on casting. Good luck, you'll probably die a lot even early on because it's so different from hades 1.

But once you unlock more arcana and keep sakes and weapon levels, it gets easier, just like how hades 1 got easier the more mirror you unlocked.

[buoyant matrix]

cast is now as important as your dash. if you ever think you're using it enough, you're wrong

[ebon sigil]

If you're playing with a controller, I recommend aim assist and auto run.

[buoyant matrix]

the few hours i played on controller i set my dash to R1 and cast to L1 for easier access while moving and attacking

[outer ferry]

Gah damn, 17 second Cerberus
Im pretty sure that’s a new pb
And this is my first run since December, haven’t played the game at all since mid December

[buoyant matrix]

also auto sprint is very helpful yeah

[ebon sigil]

i'm still playing vanilla controls... might have to try if something else is worth doing

[buoyant matrix]

oh it's definitely worth doing

give it a try and once you're used to it you can't go back

[toxic hedge]

Hades 2 update today

[fathom lake]

tomorrow*

I could say its a

HADES 2 TOMORROW moment

[craggy portal]

Silksong tomorrow

[spring thistle]

Chapter 5 tomorrow

[formal kindle]

What if the update to hades 2 adds chapter 5 of deltarune to the game

[spring thistle]

What if the roaring Knight was Zagreus all along?

[formal kindle]

Frinos*

[fathom lake]

Roaring knight was Chaos all along

[spring thistle]

oh-ho

[granite wigeon]

friends we made along the way

[merry whale]

maybe the real time was the grandpa along the way

[loud stirrup]

Hades 3 is gonna peak

[proper seal]

Hades II DLC content is about to be FIRE

[faint shoal]

Heyy guys ❤️

Hope you all good

[forest flare]

Hai

[faint shoal]

Hi

Everyone if anyone would like to collab on art with me feel free to DM me if you’re interested. 😊

[forest flare]

Hi

[forest flare]

Cant wait

[faint shoal]

How's you?

[forest flare]

Im okay wbu

[faint shoal]

Good to hear that

[faint shoal]

I'm doing well

Sora you a artist?

[forest flare]

Im learning to draw

[faint shoal]

Ohh i see

[crude dragon]

Can you say "potato"

[forest flare]

Fish

[crude dragon]

Thinking emoji

[torn wind]

[formal kindle]

Do you always start conversations like that

[crude dragon]

When I see something that triggers my "is this person a bot" alarms, yes

[formal kindle]

Oh i see

Yea i am not sure if eloise is a bot, either

I didnt mean to be rude, i was just making a joke. Sorry if i made you upset

[torn wind]

The AI PFP, empty Spotify and the insistence on a single subject that has nothing to do with the server as their first messages is definitely typical of a bot

Instantly jumping to “DM me if _”

[crude dragon]

Also the username being a first name and bunch of numbers

[torn wind]

“Follow me on my bluesky” with no link to bluesky

[crude dragon]

@pastel hull Can you do a field Turing Test real quick?

[broken glen]

Doesn’t seem like a bot, moreso just a bad catfisher

Since the grammar is bad

<@&456908176877551658>

Ban this NSFW bot please

Thank you :)

[frank mulch]

[proper seal]

Behold my thunderbolts

[marsh current]

Quick question, does anyone know if there is a still being updated spreadsheet or doc where the highest heat runs for each aspect are listed for Hades 1 and/or 2?

[nova oar]

https://h2crossroads.pages.dev

[marsh current]

Thx

[fathom lake]

almost there

[ebon shadow]

Gonna get this game asap bro

[wispy forum]

where patch

[dark sand]

is the heracles bath in the new trailer in 1.0 or is it an update teaser?

[nova oar]

Not ingame yet

[ebon shadow]

I thought it was coming with release for other consoles

[nova oar]

If you are an aussie like me then it will be sometime around 3am on the 15th

[nova oar]

It is

[ebon shadow]

hour and 30ish minutes for me

[compact raptor]

Is the Heracles thing the only new thing we know

[nova oar]

Yes

[ebon shadow]

love the fact they didn't name him hercules unlike some... super... giant corporation... looks at disney

[nova oar]

Hercules is roman, is he not

Heracles is greek

[ebon shadow]

yeah, just glad they stuck to the source

[rotund nimbus]

hey quick question. does anyone else have a problem with discord game overlay being enabled while playing hades 2? its making it run at 7 fps on my ryzen 9 7900x and 4080 super.

this problem just started for me and has not been a problem up until now

[proper seal]

Happy Hades II Console release day!!

[frank mulch]

not that long to go !

[proud swift]

🎉

[forest flare]

Yeah heracles is the greek name

[ebon shadow]

it's outt (supposedly, still telling me to just wishlist it)

[proper seal]

maybe as a pre-order?

because I know for console release when a pre order is bought theres like a countdown until release

[foggy sable]

absolute aspect of nergal

I got a rare aph attack boon right at the start and kind of just spun around the whole time

[ebon shadow]

before clicking on it, it says just announced, when clicking on it, it only says wishlist

[foggy sable]

didnt even see a second hammer lol

[proper seal]

ohhhh

[ebon shadow]

ps5 never even gave an option to pre-order, unlike xbox

[static flax]

Omg why isn't the game available for purchase now on ps5?
Isn't there like a timer on the ps store for the access?
Otherwise why have a global launch time... 😔

[torn wind]

I don’t think it’s something supergiant has any control of sadly

The global launch time is still the time the update will drop for all the other platforms that already have access to the game

[ebon shadow]

might be 12 pm considering the release time map

cause NY is 13:00, or 1:00 PM

[torn wind]

That is how time zones work

It’s a simultaneous launch time

[ebon shadow]

yeah, I was thinking it was a midnight launch though initially

[torn wind]

Nah lol that would be mean

[ebon shadow]

only reason I stayed up too 😭

[celest hearth]

Stop is it tomorrow not tonight

I’m so confused

[ebon shadow]

it's coming out on the 14th, at noon your time

I think

[celest hearth]

Bruh I stayed up for dis :(

[ebon shadow]

lmao me too

[celest hearth]

It’s fine I’ll continue to grind hades 1 while I wait

[ebon shadow]

real

except I'm gonna go to bed and get it at school tmrw

[static flax]

Omg is so sorry guys I mislead you
It's launching in 12 hours 😅
Everyone go to bed😆

[placid locust]

does the pet Gale Give a 50% boost to ALL resources or just flora?

[wooden horizon]

it would be really cool (and funny) to have you able to "beat" Scylla by evading her crew attack long enough for her song to be fully played through

[crude dragon]

Only outcroppings, and it's increasing the spawn chance specifically

[placid locust]

pretty sure it's flora but thanks, I get that it says "recources" for all the pets now. jw why it was written like that in game

[crude dragon]

Reason why is that some of the stuff Gale boosts the spawn chance of can't really be called flora

Like, you wouldn't really call driftwood, shed fangs, or Darkness "flora"

[placid locust]

I did NOT know it counted for darkness. Geebus I should have been taking her more often

[torn wind]

All familiars have a related resource they increase the chance of

Frinos - shades
Raki - Mining
Toula - Fishing
Hecuba - Digging
Gale - Flora

And yeah as they said darkness counts as flora and can also give the related element which i think is air

[lean bronze]

lets all chant together
Update be out
Update be out
Update be out

[torn wind]

You got 9 hours left

[quick crescent]

just killed typhon in under 1 minue

IM THE GOAT

SECOND EVER TYPHON KILL AND I CLEANED HIM OUT LIKE THE TOILET PAPER DURING COVID

[lean bronze]

what

[torn wind]

That’s honestly a decently fast Typhon. Did you post the build in #h2-victory-boasting

[nova oar]

Fastest possible time is like 40 seconds so well done

[quick crescent]

crap i can see i after the run right?

[torn wind]

RIP you don’t have the record keeper yet

[torn wind]

I got a 38

[quick crescent]

really? daanm i was using my hex to dodge is pound attack just to hex again they pound on him XD

[torn wind]

On wide grin p-array

[quick crescent]

yes i o

ok gimme a min

[torn wind]

Okay so then yeah go to the record keeper on the left

[torn wind]

#h2-victory-boasting message

Twilight curse came in clutch at the final shop to instakill the eggs

Oh wait actually a 36.5 second Typhon I gotta ask if that’s a record

[quick crescent]

ok whats the best way to screenshot my build?

the whole screen?

[torn wind]

If you’re on a windows PC you can just press prnt scrn and take a cropped screenshot of the relevant part

[quick crescent]

i just posted the whole screen

[quick crescent]

^

should i focus on disintergrate typhon or dissolution chronos?

assumedly i just have to kill typhon more for either of them

[nova oar]

I don't remember, it might be 29-30

Ok yeah double checked, I got a 32s kill, not a 42

[torn wind]

How's that physically even possible

[nova oar]

I'll find the clip

[torn wind]

Like you had to have gotten the absolute perfect egg placement

[nova oar]

https://imgur.com/a/c4VoQPJ

Huh it was 40 seconds wtf

[torn wind]

Yeah that's well over 32

[fathom lake]

Anyyyy minute now

[nova oar]

Do you have a clip killing him faster then?

[torn wind]

The one I linked

the one I said was 36 seconds

36.56 to be exact

[nova oar]

yeah ok

I'm just losing my memory then

[torn wind]

RIP

It's all good

I've done that before like "yeah I did this... oh wait no that's a total lie"

[dire sand]

Just forget things

[torn wind]

Yeah you're genuinely not gonna beat wide grin mel skull

Like there's nothing else in the game capable of doing that damage

[nova oar]

A medea parray would do it tho I reckon

Mel skull doesn't 'work' with wide grin

[torn wind]

It doesn't give the power

So yes technically with wide grin it's just a worse persephone skull

I'm aware

[nova oar]

Medea would beat it out then, with a perfect build

[torn wind]

Medea wide grin 🤢

Truly one of the things of all time

[heavy citrus]

Hello guys, do you know at what time h2 launches today on PlayStation ?

[torn wind]

1PM EST, New York time

Global release at same time

[sullen thorn]

Hello everyone

I'm a returning player from Hades 1 and I've 50 hours on the 2

I still don't get some weapons, please help

[buoyant matrix]

for all the new players, yall should probably stick to #h2-for-new-players

we discuss late story spoilers here

[buoyant matrix]

which ones are you missing

[sullen thorn]

I was just not sure if was qualifying to "new" player

[torn wind]

If you're asking about hidden aspects you need to level one of the non-melinoe aspects to level 5

[sullen thorn]

Oh f

[torn wind]

And then you can find the hidden aspect for that weapon

[sullen thorn]

Didn't even see that but it look obvious. But I was truly like: how to I play that mech-suit

[buoyant matrix]

hidden aspects need you to have the three base aspects unlocked then spend 5 nightmare upgrading the weapon

[torn wind]

ohhh you mean like "how do I play them" lol

The coat just spam dash attack and normal rockets

Only use omegas to activate huntress arcana

Or to snipe an enemy with omega special if necessary

[sullen thorn]

It's obviously time and experience but my god H1 was more intuitive

[torn wind]

H1 just had less options

[sullen thorn]

Twin-fist, slap Aphroditis on it and that it

[torn wind]

There's more build diversity in H2 so like yeah if you keep things super slimmed down like H1 you can call that "intuitive"

[buoyant matrix]

you put aphro attack on fists instead of zeus?

[torn wind]

But intuitive just means "understandable without active reasoning"

[sullen thorn]

Of course. I mean, some are obviously dumb

Zeus + Zeus Shield is braindead

[torn wind]

The beyblade

[buoyant matrix]

i do think coat is the most complicated weapon to play

i remember when i had just started doing 62s, i gave mel coat surface a try and got so frustrated i gave up on it

[fathom lake]

Yeah not a good place to start

[sullen thorn]

Yeah. Weak mean damage buff. You're follow-up big hit say thank you for that

[buoyant matrix]

came back 2 months later and did it first try 😂

[sullen thorn]

Did half a life bar once on Hades

[torn wind]

Weak just makes enemies do less damage unless you mean for exposed

Or whatever it was called in H1

[sullen thorn]

Tbf, Chaos was also involved

[torn wind]

The two curses thing

We have that in H2 it's called Origination arcana

Though H1 you also had Jolted

[sullen thorn]

But yeah, there is more option, I feel less damage and I barely get the role of the god now

[real scarab]

My 62f mel coat surface is basically howling soul + storm ring haha

[torn wind]

So could still get a curse off Zeus

[torn wind]

As it should be

[sullen thorn]

Except Hephaestus and Aphroditis

[buoyant matrix]

i think you're relying on plain %boosts too much

[torn wind]

Hephaestus is a solid support god and Aphro is pretty bad now

[sullen thorn]

YEAH

[buoyant matrix]

try out on-hit effects on coat

[torn wind]

Zeus’ blitz is insanely strong in this game

[buoyant matrix]

Poseidon's attack boon with dash attack spam is the true and tried coat build

[sullen thorn]

For me it's a nerf

But go on

[torn wind]

Zeus is THE god of H2 next to Hera

[buoyant matrix]

you're just objectively wrong there unfortunately

zeus is RIDICULOUS in hades 2

let me get the stupid blitz copy pasta wait

[sullen thorn]

120 damage after 4 seconds look slow...

[buoyant matrix]

I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Zeus. I try to play Scorch. My Blitz deals more damage. I try to play Poseidon. My Blitz deals more damage. I try to play Blast. My Blitz deals more damage. I want to play Demeter. Her best team has Zeus. I want to play Ares, Hera. They both want Zeus.

He grabs me by the throat. I Pom for him. I reroll for him. I give him the Cloud Bangle. He isn't satisfied. I pick Extended Family. "I don't need this much Damage %" He tells me. "Give me more Poms." He grabs Echo and forces her to Pom Pom Pom. "You just need to pop Blitz more. I can deal more damage with King's Ransom."

I can't pick King's Ransom, I have no Hera core Boon. He grabs my Fate Dice. It declines. "Guess this is the end." He grabs his lightning. He says "It's over, young lady." There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but high flat damage curse application. What a cruel world.

[torn wind]

“Oh hey let me put blitz on that special I use less”
Damage board:
blitz - 100,000
Attack - 60,000
Special - 20,000

[buoyant matrix]

it also activates if you deal 120 damage to the enemy

[torn wind]

Literally just having blitz on your attack or special makes your entire build stronger

That’s just how good blitz is

The idea of a FLAT 80 DAMAGE HIT AT COMMON even on a move you literally only use 20% of the time is absurd

Now scale that to infinity with double damage at Epic rarity

And absurd pom scaling

[bitter stirrup]

Or a casual Storm Ring outdamaging your entire build

[sullen thorn]

Pom are stronger in this game, right?

[torn wind]

There is no casual storm ring. Zeus plays to win

[sullen thorn]

Like way less scaling

[buoyant matrix]

depends on the boon you're pomming

since there are many other ways to scale your damage, I'd say they actually have less value

[torn wind]

Poms are decently strong if you get enough of them which is why the keepsake that literally gives every boon that accepts Poms 3 Pom levels is insanely broken

They took Pom blossom and said “screw it, not good enough”

“Let’s make it instant, stronger, and give an extra boon and put it alongside one of the other best keepsakes in the game that requires the same activation condition”

I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if in 7 hours we saw a Jeweled Pom nerf

[heavy citrus]

Thanks a lot ✌️

[torn wind]

Do I particularly WANT it to be nerfed? No. I kinda wish a lot of stuff in the game didn’t rely on its existence to be viable but it is what it is.

When I talk viability though I do mean for like the top levels of the game, not what’s actually needed for achievements and such. That stuff doesn’t need jeweled Pom. But the top fear stuff DEMANDS it

[final token]

Updtade when ?

[torn wind]

7 hours

[sullen thorn]

Wait what

[fathom lake]

Respectfully all i am hearing its that you cant plan your build and win only by luck

[sullen thorn]

It's confirmed?

[fathom lake]

Yeah

[torn wind]

It has been for days now

[torn wind]

I mean yeah like literally you can get luck carried by heals, Hephaestus, Aphrodite weak, Demeter freeze, and hitch through like 32-40 fear

Unless you suck at the boss fights you can just play safe and get free safety nets constantly

A good enough god pool and RNG wins the game until upper-mid fear levels

Above 40 you have to actually be good at the game

[fathom lake]

Heph blasts my belpved

[torn wind]

And yes I say that facetiously, obviously just getting that far is already an achievement of only a fraction of players

And whether you feel it or not you’ve gotten better and haven’t truly been carried by luck

But the game gives you a lot of things to help you along your way to crutch your skill a little bit

You can eat hits and just happily heal back up with the right build

[fathom lake]

I mean we have top fear stuff from BEFORE jeweled pom that i remember. its just that it is sooooo much "fun" with jeweled pom

[torn wind]

I mean a 32 fear surface is an achievement of like <6% of all players

[torn wind]

Well cause jpom lets you just make nearly anything viable

It’s a viability issue is really the problem

The game is too imbalanced without Jpom at a high fear level

[nova oar]

Can confirm

[fathom lake]

Looks at hades 1
Nah its coool

[torn wind]

Why would you ever pick rapture ring when smolder ring does 4x the damage and also still applies a curse

Why would you not want to just hunt for hitch

Or blitz

Why take aphro special when you don’t have the absurd Pom scaling that blows it to infinity

[fathom lake]

cuz im playing circe and everything works in the cast lmfao djkdlck

[nova oar]

[torn wind]

The build variety is too narrow when some boons are outright unuseable for most aspects

[nova oar]

Ares and pos don't lol

[torn wind]

“I’m playing Moros I have… two options”

[fathom lake]

Huh?

You keep moros out of this

[torn wind]

Sword ring gaming?

[split shuttle]

whats wrong with pos circe

[nova oar]

Circe doesn't double the cast damage from either of them

[torn wind]

Yeah you don’t get a second sword

[split shuttle]

its still good tho (talking about tidal)

[fathom lake]

Sword only work with duos and thats sad

[nova oar]

🤷‍♀️

Its alr

[torn wind]

Except it’s just less damage and a worse curse than solar ring

[split shuttle]

not as good as like storm ring smolder or anvil but a cast boon is better than nothing

[fathom lake]

Meat Grinddr its a so bad
I really hope it gets buffed
heh
...

[torn wind]

I mean it should and profuse bleeding should actually work properly

Profuse bleeding doesn’t actually work on anything other than attack or special

[fathom lake]

Solar ring its so cool with charon

[torn wind]

Which means the description is a total lie

If profuse bleeding actually worked on all damage then meat grinder would at least have a purpose for getting plasma

[fathom lake]

Ares its in a really weird spot in h2 ngl

[torn wind]

I like ares in 2 situations

Torches

And Big Numby Grievous

[nova oar]

Ares is my favourite olympian, to the point i'd rank him above aphro, but yeah he's weird

[split shuttle]

i like ares when i get anus affront or grievous

[fathom lake]

Grievous blow
Sword Gaming
Ares in a nutshell

[torn wind]

Aphro has a universal damage buff that works with a gain or cast that’s worth taking on most weapons

And ANOTHER universal damage buff

And some utility boons

[fathom lake]

(plasma gaming found dead in an alley)

[torn wind]

Ares has one “oh crap I’m bout to actually die” boon

And… move speed

Mutual sucks cause can’t be used with wantler but is funny in the right situations

And grievous requires you take one of the worst attacks or specials in the game

COWARDS MAKE SWORDS APPLY WOUNDS

[fathom lake]

blood spree its quite good on strength
i just think the treshhold its too low to ever be useful

[split shuttle]

antler exists

[torn wind]

Let the sword hitting the enemy or meat grinder apply wounds so I can get grievous off of cut above, sword ring, or meat grinder

Even if it’s at a delay

[split shuttle]

which is when its absolutely goated

[fathom lake]

Thats what the legendary should do

[torn wind]

If it was larger then it would just be impossible to ever die so long as you just don’t take two hits

I mean that does apply to pain 0

[fathom lake]

that would actually be fun

[torn wind]

Yeah but sadly Ares could never be S tier

It’s impossible. He is always the funny edgy red god

[fathom lake]

My actual biggest problem its that they killed plasma gaming
it would have been so much easier to just make move speed cap at 100% and let it keep going for attack speed

you literally only have to collect 50 plasma with legendary and you are done
thats it.

At least that was funny and broken
i remember the 400-700% plasma and im like yeah that was fun

[torn wind]

I mean I’m still happy with being able to throw on 3 normal attacks in between every sudden burst Moros

#h2-victory-boasting message @fathom lake

Scroll up for build and the 8 second grit 3 rivals typhon final phase

Just absurd

[buoyant matrix]

they nerfed it enough after 1.0 launch

[brave urchin]

UPDATE HYPE!

[foggy sable]

a 2 second cooldown attack boon from heph or a zeus attack boon

[brave urchin]

[foggy sable]

im using supay and mostly ignoring the omega attack

[fathom lake]

Heph

[foggy sable]

absolute bonk?

[fathom lake]

Its potentially more fun

[foggy sable]

did one room

can confirm, very bonk

[buoyant matrix]

heracles and prometheus attending dio's party!!

[foggy sable]

wow that trade off was worth it

now I just need to get glow lol

[viral topaz]

in how many hours does it drop on ps5?

[brave urchin]

I also wonder the gameplay fixes.

[foggy sable]

when I first got the calling card I was convinced that it could upgrade boons you already had

in hindsight that would be insane but still

[buoyant matrix]

around 6.5 more i think

[foggy sable]

for a moment I saw blood spree as blood frenzy and immidiently thought of mewgenics

im going insane lol

[spare wind]

Do i need max friendship with heracles for the prophecy?

[buoyant matrix]

which prophecy

[spare wind]

The fates prophecy i forgot the name

[buoyant matrix]

ah, no you don't

[spare wind]

I think you do need it for moros like am at max friendship and waiting for him to take last ambrosia but man it's been 4 nights and he just don't wanna

[spare wind]

Like i just talk to him over and over again till i get the to the dialogue?

Emissary and the one who labours the gots
That's the last of them I have left

[buoyant matrix]

yeah

[spare wind]

Alright thx

[trim jewel]

Wait so the hades 2 release for consoles will also bring additional updates?

[molten obsidian]

2.0 is real ? 🗿

[shell widget]

I’m struggling to believe Sony announced a bloodborne movie

I’m going to explode

Oh and A24 announced an Elden ring movie too

[nova oar]

We have only had the heracles thing revealed

[tranquil wren]

sekiro anime also

[shell widget]

That got announced a while ago

But yeah it’s crazy rn

[winged sierra]

We'll have patch notes when the release happens but I think it's pretty much confirmed to be additional content

[shell widget]

And jacksepticeye is supposed to be producer

[nova oar]

Anything but bloodborn 2

[shell widget]

THAT is the part I didn’t believe but now I’ve read like 8 articles about it

FOR REAL

Or a remaster

Or a port

[twin scaffold]

when will my update come back from the war,,,,

[lean bronze]

i rolled the legendary no strength no dd gca run

im determined to win

[dire sand]

Co-producer

I'm more interested in new things than in the same thing again so I absolutely do not mind that this game has no remaster or port

I'm glad fromsoft makes other IPs more than sequels now

[lean bronze]

so close

[tranquil wren]

I'm just hoping for PS4 emulation to get better

[merry whale]

heracles will strip today

[tranquil wren]

can't wait!!

[dire sand]

I just hope I get to play video games today work has been work

[brazen ibex]

Im learning that the 60% omega speed on Artemis also applies to the special

And I did an awesome night bloom run with that

It feels really good to have that fast special charge

[regal mist]

Lowkey (def not gonna happen but cope) I hope they revert some of the visual effects to what they were in early access, or a toggle to switch. Poseidons splash effects for example looked way better when early access was new compared to now after comparing early footage to now

[full rock]

What time pst is the game available on PlayStation today? Sorry if this has been answered already, missed it.

[tranquil wren]

https://bsky.app/profile/supergiantgames.bsky.social/post/3mj5mvdubuc2m

[bleak kestrel]

2 hours and 45 minutes until this game comes out for console players can't wait

[toxic hedge]

Patch nkte drop when?

[nova oar]

If we do get patch notes it'll be when it releases

[forest flare]

Very soon !

[nova oar]

Only a few hours

[forest flare]

Yea

[visual elbow]

I got the Artemis Aspect to level 5 for the hidden aspect is there something im doing wrong or is this just comically unlucky

[buoyant matrix]

you need to have pan unlocked too

then just keep talking to artemis

[visual elbow]

all the way unlocked or just one

[buoyant matrix]

just unlocked, you don't have to upgrade it

[visual elbow]

Okay im just getting unlucky then

womp womp

[buoyant matrix]

artemis is a rare encounter and she can have other dialogue in the queue so yeah

[final token]

update when guys ?

[nova oar]

[forest flare]

In some hours

[spare wind]

Got the ||dog bird and frog|| which familiar am I missing guys?
Also please mention where to find it xd

[dusky mountain]

catto

[nova oar]

Toula and gale, both on the surface

[spare wind]

Oh there are 5?

[buoyant matrix]

cat and the stupid weasel that i hate, both on surface

[dusky mountain]

isnt gale a polecat

[spare wind]

Thats great then cuz I have to chat to heracles anyway

[spare wind]

Need em for achievements although it'll take time I want 100% achievements

[nova oar]

Uhm actually, polecat

[buoyant matrix]

sloth, monkey, skunk, sausage, what the difference 😤

[spare wind]

Is there a location exactly where I can find both or randomly on surface?

[dusky mountain]

Ribbit

[buoyant matrix]

cat is on the docks before you start riding ships in thessaly, stupid weasel is in the shop right before prometheus

[spare wind]

Also if anybody has the game opened am missing one keepsakes it is 4th of the 2nd line

[buoyant matrix]

it's one of the gods

[nova oar]

ares?

From memory

[buoyant matrix]

check the olympians in your codex and see who is missing the first heart

[dusky mountain]

whats the great ares boon again, is it mutual destruction or grieveous blow

[spare wind]

Nope that's 3rd last in second row

[dusky mountain]

its GB isnt it

[nova oar]

Ok i'm not a complete chud

[nova oar]

Both

[buoyant matrix]

erm arckshoually mutual destruction is useless because i never get hit

[spare wind]

Alright thanks

[nova oar]

Erm actually I ate your cpu

[dusky mountain]

[mystic skiff]

might be Demeter

[spare wind]

Looks like i have everything from the Olympians tho

[nova oar]

demeter or hestia then

Really tryna remember what the cabinet looks like

[spare wind]

Looks like it's demeter i think because I can't see her in the menu adwell

[dusky mountain]

fun to see who of the guys here i know is still active in here

[nova oar]

I'm so smart

[dusky mountain]

i do remember pizzapeppi and Luthien

[nova oar]

Heyo

[spare wind]

Yup it's demeter you guys are smart

[dusky mountain]

do you remember me? lol

[nova oar]

No clue

[dusky mountain]

we had a small argument once about supay

[nova oar]

I see about 10 new people every day

[dusky mountain]

but thats the point, im not new

[boreal saffron]

hey is it true there's gonna be a new update or are people lying

[dusky mountain]

true

[nova oar]

The only update to the game we know about is that heracles will be appearing in the crossroads

[boreal saffron]

hmmm I guess nothing big

[spare wind]

Got all the keepsakes chat

[dusky mountain]

we get "some bonus content and quality-of-life improvements"

[spare wind]

Now just the painful road of maxing them all

[dusky mountain]

nothing is painful

[nova oar]

You made it to the epilogue without gifting dem

[dusky mountain]

just enjoy the game homes

[spare wind]

xd

[regal mist]

Think there's gonna be more, devs on X have been responding to people teasing "full patch notes"

[buoyant matrix]

??? the bath scene was in dio's party fyi

[regal mist]

Feel like full patch notes implies its not just 1 extra interactions they're adding

[crimson badger]

Update coming out in 2 hours, right?

[spare wind]

Am not at the epilogue yet though gotta chat to heracles more and emissary maxing

[nova oar]

You can get an incantation to half the encounters needed

[main copper]

New Skins for pets

[nova oar]

Read up

[main copper]

Iirc

[nova oar]

And that

[nova oar]

TIL

[spare wind]

Yeah I have that

[buoyant matrix]

it said bonus content so there's definitely more than just heracles getting naked

[nova oar]

Just whack out some speedruns

[spare wind]

Also how do you even upgrade familiars?

[nova oar]

With pet treats

[dusky mountain]

long awaited glorious disaster buff, calling it now

[regal mist]

Personally hoping for gameplay tweaked and balance changes but thats cope

[spare wind]

I'll probably try to get 100% achievements before that though or do it with that because I don't think there's an achievement for max keepsakes

There is one for all keepsakes tho

[nova oar]

Nop

[ebon sigil]

When you eventually get the recipe for pet treats, use your stardust from chaos trials on pet treats and not on nectar @spare wind

[spare wind]

And I am like returning after a month or so soo am rusty as heck rn

[spare wind]

Alright thanks
Considering I'd have startdust tho

[dusky mountain]

ive had everything 100% on PC, gonna start all over today and get the plat for ps5

[ebon sigil]

Well that’s how you get pet treats.

[dusky mountain]

am excited

[ebon sigil]

Here we go again.

[dusky mountain]

never played the story proper anyway, i played it every update since EA launch

[spare wind]

Also is medea really one of the best weapons in game? I am having a hard time using it (it can just be me too)

[dusky mountain]

should definitely feel more complete and all. and im sure i cant remember lots of the early game dialogues

[buoyant matrix]

best for speedrunning

[nova oar]

I'd explain it but pizza will beat me to it probably

[spare wind]

Enjoy your pizza it's fine xd
Am not gonna use medea for a while anyway currently I hate it

[strong rapids]

it's really good if you know the enemy attack patterns well and know when it's safe to go in, the damage is crazy but it's risky

[spare wind]

As my favs are sister blades and aspect of circe

[ebon sigil]

It’s very strong but have to be smart about not specialibg into a whole bunch of face tank damage

[nova oar]

Also 1am so i'm just surviving till the update

[dusky mountain]

medea is best when used best buts definitely not the most easy weapon to use. i could get faster time with other aspects than with medea

[buoyant matrix]

well medea hates you too. huh? how about that?

[spare wind]

I think you also have to practice timing on the blasts

[ebon sigil]

Sister blades suck

[nova oar]

Real

[strong rapids]

nah, you pop the blasts manually by specialing in

[spare wind]

I find them fast and fun but most of my runs are with circe actually all my best runs are with circe

[strong rapids]

if you're sitting there waiting for the attack to pop, I think I know your problem :P

[ebon sigil]

Branch out

[dusky mountain]

Torches best weapon, all aspects smash

[nova oar]

[spare wind]

Currently doing a no fear surface run with melinoe skull because I have to do it for the prophecy

[ebon sigil]

Sister blades all suck.

[crimson badger]

just making sure

[nova oar]

Morrigan?

[boreal saffron]

medea is quite hard to master compared to eris in hades 1, speed running in my opinion is much harder just because of the higher mechanical skill ceiling

[dusky mountain]

pan worst aspect in the game, fight me

[regal mist]

Mel aspect for blades can be decent tbh

[ebon sigil]

Yeah it sucks too. Just sucks a little less because gimmick is fun.

[nova oar]

Selene:

[spare wind]

Suggest me an aspect considering my best runs are with circe

[nova oar]

I want whatever you're smokin

[regal mist]

Charon

[ebon sigil]

Selene is super meh. I prefer mel cloak

[spare wind]

I love double casting with circe lol

[nova oar]

Charon

[regal mist]

If you like casts

[spare wind]

Lol

[dusky mountain]

Selene is meh yeah, but at least starfall is more fun

[spare wind]

I'll try charon after this

[nova oar]

Nyx is better but yes selene sucks, way worse than pan because pan can have trick knives

[ebon sigil]

Charon is super hard to use on heph feuds. Heph doesn’t like you charging your special.

[dusky mountain]

i love Nyx, but i can literally only play it with hestia or poseidon attack

never had a good special run with the coat

[nova oar]

Just dash charge the omega

[real scarab]

Selene can have shimmering, it's pretty equal to pan

[ebon sigil]

Pan makes me miss Chiron bow

[ebon sigil]

My fingers need training.

[dusky mountain]

tell me about it

ok i got a real question, is there any aspect you purposely pick demeter core boons on

attack and special i mean, her cast is act good

[nova oar]

No lmfao

[regal mist]

Mel blades not bad

[ebon sigil]

No

[nova oar]

Well

[broken creek]

that question is a bit misleading since not a single weapon cares for anything that isnt zeus/hera/pos/hestia(the last 2 being very weapon dependant)

[nova oar]

I like it on staff attack or circe special

[dusky mountain]

i mean i take it for origination if i have to

[jolly hound]

Apollo Charon tho

[dusky mountain]

but still same as ares, the core boons are just so meh

[regal mist]

Apollo any axe tbh

[dusky mountain]

apollo works great on anubis and morrigan too btw

[broken creek]

but thats if we talk like meta chud optimizing nonsense, otherwise every god works wherever but nothing directly wants demeter as a attack/special and same can be said for every weapon with like ares, aphro, apollo since there will be stronger options unless the pool is already filled

[ebon sigil]

They need to buff the damage and curse of dem, ares and add weakening to aphro. They fall behind the other gods on attack and special for most situations.

[broken creek]

ares you only take in hopes of getting grievous, apollo has some niche implications for certain weapons but 99% of the time hera is just better, demeter is a super safe god and having a curse is nice but again zeus and hera exist, and aphro doesnt even have a curse so that already stinks when again zeus and hera exist

[ebon sigil]

Heph also feels lame until epic and Pom 6.

[real scarab]

Apollo attack and Aphro special could be the best options for some aspects tho

[dusky mountain]

i think you could argue Dem is good for new players who want safety, but its a bit of a noobtrap

[strong rapids]

demeter is considerably better when you're newer, I think. I still like her. I don't think she needs a buff

[regal mist]

Yea its whay was mentioned, hera might need objectively stronger, but sometimes other gods might be more fun for a given situation

[real scarab]

Apollo attack for morrigan or shiva

[regal mist]

If its not high fear just take what you feel like

[real scarab]

Or Mel axe

[nova oar]

Shiva my beloved

[nova oar]

If it's not 65 or 67 just take whatever

[broken creek]

eh its hard to beat blitz and hitch at a fundamental level

[ebon sigil]

I haven’t learned to shiva good

[dusky mountain]

i only pick ares or heinous affront lol

[nova oar]

Shiva my beloved

[dusky mountain]

and on selene for the godsent