h2-discussion

[uneven gulch]

aspect of artemis makes me feel like i'm playing hollow knight

[rigid fulcrum]

But yeah, Pan is just 'What if Aspect of Chiron was less fun.'

[delicate acorn]

I wish Artemis Riposte felt more active than just channeling the omega and waiting to get hit

[crude dragon]

Definitely Morrigan, even if the gameplay loop isn't terribly conducive to speedrunning

[tropic monolith]

gotta play differently, aim to soak hits intentionally right after you start the channel

[rigid fulcrum]

Though Morrigan can be good as an attack spam sort of weapon too. At least for room clears.

[tropic monolith]

I enjoy falling into Morrigan attack patterns to keep refreshing the bonus damage

special -> omega special -> attack (triggers) -> omega special hits on return -> attack + special (triggers)

Not super efficient but feels fun

[delicate acorn]

Definitely a me thing but I'd rather just not be in a situation where I'm trying to get hit in the first place :v

That's just why I don't mesh with Artemis specifically 😞

[rigid fulcrum]

It's a good amount of bonus damage, so it feels worth it.

[crude dragon]

My best guess would be to go for Hitch attack on Morrigan to spread the Triad damage

[rigid fulcrum]

I just do Mel knives when it comes up. Trying to poke enemies in the back is fun enough, even if the base damage of them makes it kind of weird.

[delicate acorn]

Big fan of special -> dash attack + hold attack -> release for omega, and hopefully by that time the special came back to start another dash attack -> omega again

Or you can whiff it entirely and eat hits like me.

[tropic monolith]

been there, done that

[tropic monolith]

aha but that can go perfectly into the chain I outlined

Special -> dash attack + hold attack -> omega (trigger), special hits -> omega special -> attack (trigger) -> attack -> omega returns -> special (trigger)

[mental forge]

what’s the 4th keepsake on the 3rd row I can’t figure out who I’m missing for the life of me

Is it from Hercules? And I’ve just forgot to bring nectar?

[unreal temple]

Bruh Zeus played Heph so dirty, he said "This war has pushed some of my son to finally stand up and show themselves, except Heph, he only did the later"

[tropic monolith]

yep

[hasty ocean]

wasn't Zeus the one who crippled Hephaestus in Greek mythology?

[delicate acorn]

I think Hera threw Heph off Olympus but it might depend on which version you're reading

[hasty ocean]

according to the wikipedia overview, sometimes its Hera throwing Heph off because he was born impaired, or Zeus throwing Heph off to protect Hera

Greek mythology is messed up

[dull spindle]

We should get a prequel where we actually play as hades

Young hades

[pallid nacelle]

wich one is the good wiki?

[unreal temple]

Yeah they should name the game "Hades"

[dull spindle]

Hades 0

Like yakuza 0 ez

Instead of boons we get arcana

[rough horizon]

Oh bummer, you can only hang one charm at once. Considering they cost Nightmare, I expected you could have them all at once.

[keen summit]

So weird question. I have gotten epilogue and never once used casts.

Are casts kinda like useless for a lot of builds and you don't need them or did I play like 100 hours of this game incorrectly?

[rough horizon]

Casts are amazing

[teal zephyr]

Casts are pretty integral for everything

[frank ermine]

uh

you played 100 hours of the game wrong...

[rough horizon]

You've played 100 hours without passing the screamer tutorial at Erebus

[frank ermine]

casts are VERY useful

[keen summit]

I mean I just threw skulls around a bunch? Like, I will be real like...outside of hercules hammer i don't know how to use the axe but like. I guess I would always seem to use them and get interrupted on the omegas and just...never got the hang of them?

Like.

They're all AOE on the ground drop thingies right?

[slender wedge]

keepsakes spoiler (?) question

||anyone know how to get zag's keepsake|| i dont mind if the answer to this is a spoiler for myself

[teal zephyr]

It's your primary method of crowd control, 30% global damage boost with furies arcana, an altogether new source of damage, curses or even more crowd control via the core cast slot, etc.

[keen summit]

Gotcha. I guess I just...killed and dodged crowds?

Casts don't change based on your weapon right?

[warm dust]

||you very rarely get his fight in charon rooms. beat him twice.||

[teal zephyr]

Not that rare it's just chance based to appear in a midshop

[warm dust]

also speaking of that ||anyone else feel like the zag fight is kinda bad? if you get close to him he slaps you for 50 almost instantly. you get him so rarely i don't want to spend time dying to him to learn his patterns, every time i fight him i just kite forever||

[warm dust]

i get it like 1 in 5 runs tops

[slender wedge]

||ah thought it was a specific place where i could gift him, do you know if this event is only in the surface shops or can be found in any||

[shell widget]

Getting to the epilogue without using casts is insane

[unkempt zodiac]

hes not that rare. more of a gear test than much of a boss. if you do cracked damage its basically free money, if you dont, dont bother with it

[slender wedge]

ive only encountered it once

[teal zephyr]

Any as long as it's midshop (not every area has a midshop)

[paper gull]

||how many chaos trials do i have to do before i can give chaos ambrosia?||

[shell widget]

Casts can do some rather silly things

[unkempt zodiac]

anyways the actual boss itself is basically on par with the secret boss in h1 in terms of quality. its fine enough and puts a big smile on my face anyways

[teal zephyr]

It can be Erebus, Oceanus in underworld, and Olympus on surface, I think that's it

[unkempt zodiac]

i got it in rift iirc

[slender wedge]

same

[keen summit]

Are casts like useful on the end bosses? Like right now my only real problems are the rivals bosses and going for like the last statue. Like I was able to get up to Silver statue as far as like...testaments go.

[teal zephyr]

Yeah Thessaly has a midshop now that I think about it

[shell widget]

Incredibly so

[rough horizon]

With boons, yes

Did you just... never pick cast boons?

[shell widget]

Slightly less so on typhon due to some hitbox oddities

[lyric zenith]

Furies damage buff + cast boons, so uh

[shell widget]

But still quite useful

[lyric zenith]

Zeus and Hestia also have boons to place casts at range

[keen summit]

I stopped using them like after I was trying to figure out how to do them and move with it mapped to Q...and it's like "Okay so I have to watch ANOTHER thing land, and move, and watch that timer, or...I could just use my main and side attack.

[unkempt zodiac]

cast boons are incredibly powerful and casts take almost no time to activate meaning basically free damage. especially good if you have the furies card that gives you a 30% damage boost to foes in your cast

[warm dust]

just map it to shift ez

[copper vector]

mfs,i got an anatomy exam tomorrow the duck am i going to do

[teal zephyr]

I put it on mouse button

[shell widget]

Study

[warm dust]

and yeah you can slam it while dodging and charging most moves, you just cast and things can't come to you

[shell widget]

Time is on your side.

[keen summit]

But yeah I um. I guess I made a major accomplishment in utter idiocy by just beating the game without using one of the core mechanics...? I feel dumb.

...Wait it just freezes things?

[lyric zenith]

Name the heart valves rn mfer

[teal zephyr]

Q isn't bad but it sucks if you need to channel an omega cast

[warm dust]

did you not know cast freezes enemies in place?

[copper vector]

I AM A DENTISTRY STUDENT WHY THE DUCK DO I NEED TO KNOW HOW THE TAILBONE LOOKS!?!?!?

[keen summit]

I stopped using it within the first hour of gameplay, I think when trying to set up enemies for combos?

[teal zephyr]

More like roots them in place

[crude dragon]

It has a rooting/slowing effect, not a full stun

[paper gull]

||Does anyone know how many chaos trials are required before being able to give chaos ambrosia?||

[shell widget]

It can freeze them with Demeter which is hey she’s a go to for a lot builds

[keen summit]

I literally stopped using it before I unlocked any other nocturnal arms and then never used it again. XD

[unkempt zodiac]

nothing to feel dumb about, its a new mechanic in h2 so not immediately obvious to use but its definitely one of the strongest tools in mel's arsenal

[shell widget]

Try Charon axe and grab Apollo

[crude dragon]

Yeah, you really oughta use it more. Especially if you get boons on it

[lyric zenith]

Idk, I got Demeter cast super early on

[keen summit]

I just stopped choosing cast boons. XD

[lyric zenith]

and immediately it was useful because of fish swarmers

[shell widget]

Try to get sudden cleaver and the one that makes the special occur twice

[copper vector]

I think like 5 or something,idk i was abke to give him ambrosia early on

[frigid sapphire]

They should make Hypnos keepsake the current fig leaf then make dios keepsake give you one of his boons as long as the strength arcana card isn’t active

[crude dragon]

Spray bottle gif

[teal zephyr]

At bare minimum it lets you root enemies and give you 30% dmg boost with furies, that alone is powerful enough

[shell widget]

Dishes some of the largest damage numbers in the game

[unkempt zodiac]

hera cast (instant damage and curse) + the hermes boon that makes casts expire faster is great

[paper gull]

i've done 14 and it still hasnt gave me the option..

[keen summit]

What are furies again?

[unkempt zodiac]

its an arcana card, near the top left

[shell widget]

Characters and the arcana card

[crude dragon]

It's an arcana card. Deal more damage to enemies in your casts

[copper vector]

thats why i made a fresh save because my old one is bugged to hell

[paper gull]

omg that can happen..?

[keen summit]

1: Does it root Chronos? 2: Does it damage um...Father of Monsters?

[teal zephyr]

It works different on bosses

[copper vector]

its a save from 0.40-ish that i refused to delete/restart and sunk around 80/90 hours in until the release and it just wouldnt work anymore and alot of stuff is just softlocked

[crude dragon]

It'll slow bosses, and Typhon will be damaged by it if you have a damaging effect on it, same as all other enemies

[keen summit]

Ohhh so it doesn't damage without an effect on it?

[crude dragon]

No, only the Omega cast does damage at base

The base cast is just a CC effect if you have no boons for it

[unkempt zodiac]

basically the cast is kinda an empty attack that more or less does nothing until boosted. the same way your dash doesnt do damage, or your magick doesnt replenish. stuff only happens once a boon is applied

[paper gull]

this has instilled me with fear

[copper vector]

example of said bugs https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801078208162037825/1425535873906249848/IMG-20251008-WA0002.jpg?ex=68e942bd&is=68e7f13d&hm=2dea27a4c1f61811764e2c7f9e8e23eed3e11d7021676f385bc92c7bdf34fb6b&

[crude dragon]

How

[copper vector]

duck if i know

i closed the game before chronos to continue later and opened it to find myself at spawn like that

[teal zephyr]

Without a boon no, but with furies arcana it will give you a 30% boost on the damage you deal to enemies standing in it at the very least

[copper vector]

mind you again thats an ancient save from v0.40-ish that was brute forced through every patch/update until release where i just gave up

[paper gull]

oh god..

[paper gull]

i started in EA during the warsong update so i HOPE im not locked out of the chaos thing

[copper vector]

hold on theres an even more cursed one

[harsh anchor]

does anyone know how much DODGE we can have in 1.0? pre 1.0 people got over 100% dodge

[frigid sapphire]

||Calling card|| is lowkey op, you can rarify 6 epic boons and you will get 6 free heroic boons

[copper vector]

i gave up on my save at this point and was ducking with the game files https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801078208162037825/1425915098009964594/WhatsApp_Image_2025-10-08_at_20.50.37_b7f0f19e.jpg?ex=68e9526b&is=68e800eb&hm=7bee55565bef19dd50019fe73901aa8cb8e1e90055fa3f65160c70f67c758885&

[unkempt zodiac]

||jeweled pom|| imo is way stronger due to how it activates even after being taken off. technically all the new keepsakes do but ||pom|| has infinite uses

they also synergize very well together

[copper vector]

well thats recent if i remember correctly and not brute forced from (basically)the alpha like mine

[paper gull]

well lets just hope im missing something then and im not slightly bugged

[copper vector]

what are you missing?

[bronze stream]

Did Wide Grin for the Skull change? Didnt it used to basically brick the Medea skull?

[crude dragon]

No, it's still bad on Medea

[paper gull]

i just cant give them ambrosia yet and im HOPING theres just a requirement beforehand i havent gotten, like maybe i havent unlocked ALL the trials

[crude dragon]

It still pulls all 4 pins with a single button press

[copper vector]

oh hold on i mixed up ambrosia with nectar lol

[paper gull]

pfft all good

[gusty grotto]

guys i returned after a few updates, i had a 80 hours save and played for 10 hours more, and i think i cant get godsent hexes?

can anybody explain to me how exactly do u get them so i can make sure im doing everything right?

[wispy storm]

i'm surprised you can get nimble limbs while playing supay lmao

[copper vector]

basically you gotta do around 8 convos aswell as 8 nectar*** +finish the trails(not just convo when obtaining the boon)https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801078208162037825/1425917466235900005/image.png?ex=68e954a0&is=68e80320&hm=b5ce98ee9d7e50f1f27eee34af2495fa5a07a9141d6c8aa026d9d64acfb7ee3d&

[crude dragon]

Pretty sure it's unlocked from Selene dialogue, so you just gotta keep running into Hexes

[modest quartz]

supergiant, upload the humming raw vocals to spotify and my life is YOURS </33

[gusty grotto]

im almost running out of wishes to do, and after the unseen update i came back and obtained 1 godsent hex then quit again

so i got it once, but after 1.0 im not getting it, can u explain how exactly do u get them?

[modest quartz]

having to rip them from the bank is a modern travesty

[copper vector]

oh god...i forgot about all the stuff unlocked through the dialogues ,i been raw dogging the game at sub 30 fps because the ga me wont acknowledge my dedicated gpu and thats othet than my absolutely masochistic and disgusting chronos fear runs (proof:https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/911937510677041183/1425567290358894783/IMG-20251008-WA0005.jpg?ex=68e8b73f&is=68e765bf&hm=e2566c24ab7b8a25ae4b5ba07acd171462174f384c8cf6a1c9c65d2a0f91278c&)

[hearty trout]

i have a heroic steady growth as my second boon

HO BOY THIS IS GONNA BE GOOD

[paper gull]

oh i see, i think i have completed enough should probably look out for a portal for em

[copper vector]

boons....i forgot what boons are....all i get are onions....onions are like ogres....or ogres are like onions...i dont know but theres something shrek related

hey guys. guys. guys.
who wants to see me do a 55 fear chronos run for *hits and giggles?

[muted ingot]

does furies arcana also make casts themselves stronger?

[crude dragon]

It would, yes

[muted ingot]

I am not turning it off either way but I am curious lol

[crude dragon]

Enemies being hit by your cast would be inside your cast by definition

[copper vector]

it doesnt work that way i think? depends on the cast type too,some casts like apollo where it just expands and damages at the end.

[high steeple]

Anyone know whom i need to talk to to unlock ||the third step of waking Hypnos||?

[spark vessel]

Blasted hades 2 is locked up in chains and it's not letting me play anything else

Damn you supergiant, why do you make a game so so replayable ? I can't stop playing it

I need my life back

[copper vector]

....i need to study for my anatomy and oral histology exams tomorrow....F IT WE BALL,WE GUNNA DO A 55 FEAR RUN BOYS

[devout cairn]

55 fear runs are more important than any exam

[spark vessel]

The True testament of your capabilities

[copper vector]

im geniunly going to dit,how hard can it be afterall? i already sunk 70-ish hours on the game and a constant and beutiful 21fps like im at the movies

[urban anvil]

i just ||woke up hypnos and i feel like im in a fever dream||

[muted ingot]

the first 3 random gods I've seen in my run are the exact ones I wanted this is going to be crazy

[crude dragon]

||Medea again||

[radiant berry]

Can anyone explain how Aspect of Nyx works? All I can tell is that it lets you charge up your dash and then deal 250 damage to the first thing you run into

[copper vector]

WAHHAHAHS. WHAT,WHY IS IT SAYING SAVE FILE CORRUPTED!? HAWLP,THIS WAS A FRESH SAVE I WAS DOING A CHALLENGE ON WHERE I NEVER LOSE A SINGLE RUN AND ON 50+ FEAR,HELP NOOOO

WHAT THE HELL https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801078208162037825/1425922992717959318/image.png?ex=68e959c5&is=68e80845&hm=8f326fd87bc76d1251dd89c6530667effccfb7d8e28c5934803cded79898da51& WRONNG SCREENSHOT BUT STILL\

[desert hound]

guys how do you get "born to win" prophecy

[minor dew]

433k cast damage this run

[ebon spire]

equip embrio at the start , then dont change the keepsake and finish the run with it

[copper vector]

LORD HAVE MERCY ON MY SOUL AND DONT LET MY SAVEFILE BE CORRUPTED

[icy blade]

Is raki still in the erebus fountain room? My friend is struggling to find him and I found him before 1.0

[desert hound]

can i do a surface run or does it have to be underground ?

[ebon spire]

i did on underground , idk the other, you can do it in fear 0 if you want

[desert hound]

yea i'll rush it and see

thanks

[ebon spire]

anyone know what need to do to "clear" a testament ? i did the 24 and 32 fear run with the umbral flames , but the fear 16 run changed to 20 next

[warm dust]

i could get 9k kudos from all my psyche. when am i allowed to click that button?

[copper vector]

what does kudos even do,i had 2k in my original save and didnt notice a differeance

[warm dust]

makes the crossroads prettier

[urban anvil]

idk what just happened, but ONE cyclops shockwave hit me dozens of times and insta killed me at 150 hp

all in a single second

[ember gate]

why cant i gift nectar to echo

[copper vector]

I DUCKING HATE THE FISH,I SWEAR THEY RESPAWN FASTER THAN THE OTHER ENEMIES

[copper vector]

u gotta talk to her for a bit and listen to dialogues until you get the option to gift

[ember gate]

ok ty

[high steeple]

Cast helps when you can slow them down

Also i wonder what made the devs get rid of the physically intimate aspects of the romance routes

[mental forge]

I miss deflect dash 🥀

[copper vector]

im talking about the green evil eyes that spawn after killing em im playing a fear 55 chronos run + i just got that choas trail that gives me +57 cast dmg so heck yeah

[novel spruce]

I have run into || Hecuba || 3 more times since... never an option to bond with her... not sure what is going on

[high steeple]

Oohh i thought u were talking about the pinheads in oceanus

[high steeple]

Did you have witches delight with you?

[copper vector]

i wish, plus yeah im talking about the pinheads in oceanus but i swear they respawn faster

[mental forge]

sigh…. The memories, that asphodel witch fight… just dashing around reflecting the projectiles back…. If only Mel could do that

[novel spruce]

yeah I brewed at least 2 batches of it, so should have 6 of the morsels on me

[high steeple]

Athena still offers it as a sub boon

[mental forge]

deflect dash…. Is still here…?

[high steeple]

U mean divine dash? Yeah, but it‘s not a main boon for dash anymore, it will be added to the dash boon you have

[copper vector]

wut

athena???? are you talking hades 1 or 2

[high steeple]

Oh then i don‘t know, sorry

[high steeple]

Oops spoilers

[mental forge]

didn’t have to government name it 😭

[copper vector]

oh wait,im dumb ||the overworld/upstairs||

[novel spruce]

yeah just checked have 4 of them on me... and I have run into || Gale and Hecuba || multiple times now... I feel like I bugged it somehow 🤷‍♂️

[copper vector]

honestly the only one i bumped into was ||HERA|| somehow underground and i was more surprised by the fact she was even in the game rather than that she became my Sudanese friend's slim mom

[unkempt herald]

i'm having the same issue, i was thinking it could be because i beat the game before getting the 3rd companion (never noticed it lol)

[novel spruce]

yeah same for me!

[nova oar]

There must be some hidden requirement cause so many people are struggling with this

[rare temple]

Did you talk to hecate about ||Gale and Hecuba|| first?

I kept finding them and petting them until melinoe said she was gonna ask hecate about them

[unkempt herald]

i haven't gotten a voiceline for gale, i'll try that

[copper vector]

on the note of ||hera|| being sudanese/south egyptian. to be clear im not that bothered by race swaps or designs or whatever except for one mf. why is hephaestus not absolutely disgusting and deformed? like thats a geniune annoyance i have alongside his happy trail. @rare temple nope,it was a fresh save on the 2nd run/win (doing a challenge where i never lose a single night on 50+ fear)

[rare temple]

Then i guess thats what you have to trigger to get them, keep petting them whenever you see them and it must happen eventually

[copper vector]

weird, anyways back to my 55 fear run

[rare temple]

good luck!

[copper vector]

i need more than good luck,part of my masochistic challenge is playing on barely 21 fps at 720p because i hate myself

[jolly hound]

so it’s basically 58 fear

[little mason]

May time stop you

[willow stream]

now that we have calling card, it's a shame that cherished heirloom doesn't give a 4th level for god keepsakes that gives you two rarity bumps

[smoky rover]

are there any non-obvious things I can spend Shaderot and Iron on?

[little mason]

Death to Mel

[smoky rover]

I am damn near certain I 100%ed this entire game, and yet...

[little mason]

U didn't clear game with spider dress huh

[smoky rover]

I have

[little mason]

😂

Get censored

[smoky rover]

B**tch?

[little mason]

For writing an essay.

[willow stream]

are those used for the rank system in the taverna? I'm not 100% sure and I can't check rn

[smoky rover]

I'm max rank.

[nova oar]

No they're not, unless it's for the last rank then idk, i'm at unseen 3 so will find out soon

[little mason]

Have you beat the game first run?

[devout cairn]

yes, on 67 fear

[smoky rover]

As far as I recall, it's basically every single boss resource and nightmare, and one other resource I don't remember. I think Unseen 2 and Unseen 1 were sand and lens

[nova oar]

It was that and stardust

[smoky rover]

Ah, right

then nothing changes, except the amounts of the resources

[nova oar]

Must just be a bug

[little mason]

Where, squish it

[tidal cliff]

No wonder fire away is my last legendary to obtain

I’ve gotten 8 hestia boons with no legendary😭

[little mason]

Use the arcana increase legendary chance by 50%

[crude dragon]

TBF, it has some really strict requirements

[smoky rover]

the only legendary that requires exactly one specific boon I think

[little mason]

Cast boons

[crude dragon]

Has to be Smolder Ring

Believe the reqs are Smolder Ring, a fireball (which means Controlled Burn, because Glowing Coal makes the Legendary's effect a lot harder to use), and a T2 Scorch boon?

[copper vector]

I got muted for 20 minutes because i said the slang word of female dog to you when you wished upon my downfall nergul..and i have to let you know,i curently killed cerberus

[fair void]

erm maybe i should beat the game and turn on vow of rivals

scylla is rough even with the brain off circe staff cast build

[keen chasm]

is anyone else getting a "save corruption" message when trying to fight the scylla. For my last three runs the game makes me restart from last save before the run

[fair void]

oof

[bronze stream]

Wondering if I should actually put off unlocking Ares for a bit, sounds like having him as an option that can come up might literally be an overall nerf

[dull sage]

how do i unlock the denizens of the depths prophecy

[keen chasm]

im just trying to grind resources but i get reset

[nova oar]

Do it

[nova oar]

You realise that this guy ragebaits for a living right

[copper vector]

restart the game,it will probably undo the the level/location and atmost undo the night. happened to me just now when i tried opening my 55 fear run,had to redo it

[devout cairn]

i got 20 minutes for saying the alternate word for butt

[fair void]

Mm

[copper vector]

is he the white boy that shivers from onions?

[fair void]

ill try for a bit before quitting

[keen chasm]

ok

[nova oar]

Have you played with other fear at all

[fair void]

yeah time 1, scars 1, menace 1, shadow 1, return 1, fangs 1 and frenzy 2

[nova oar]

Frenzy 2 is good, other stuff is also fine

[glad lake]

so I tried this with Supay #789169463488413698 message

ah damn I forgot how to send images

[fair void]

anything i should add instead of rivals?

[bronze marlin]

for me everything is sellable without a mark, so there is something you are missing!
||did you pause in the super chronos bossfight?||

[copper vector]

nah you alr,they turned off images and nice job m8

[glad lake]

ahhhhhhhhhh thanksies

[nova oar]

If you're not tryna hit fear goals then not really, it doesn't matter too much up until higher fear what you take

[glad lake]

vampire survivors mode is funny to use

[smoky rover]

did they restart the incantation for chronos pause again, for the third time?

[nova oar]

Personally would run timer 3 but that's just me

[glad lake]

timer 3 is insanity

[hearty fog]

He no longer unpauses your fight ||except when you have the Vow of Rivals active, and there's an incantation to guarantee your pause even then.||

[glad lake]

how do you even get rivals 4

[fair void]

ill add 1 pain and 1 grit so the boss fights lasts longer and i can enjoy the music

[hearty fog]

I forgot how you get the first level, but beating each tier both up and downstairs unlocks the next.

[nova oar]

Wdym?

[hearty fog]

Once you beat Hecate and Polyphemus, then you get Scylla and Eris, and so on.

[glad lake]

you know what niche thing is disappointing. Zagreus had Aspect of Hades, but Mel does not have Aspect of Chronos on the Axe

[nova oar]

They changed the vor4 requirements to be after credits or epilogue or smth

[hearty fog]

Oh, oops.

[high steeple]

Wdym?

[glad lake]

Zag has Hades aspect on the spear. Hades was the final boss. Mel does not have a Cronos aspect

[hearty fog]

I don't think there are any bosses in H2 that have an Aspect of the Nocturnal Arms.

[high steeple]

OOHHHH yeah now i know what u mean

[fair void]

ill turn on timer 2 and 3 once im tired of checking out the art and music of the game

[bronze marlin]

looking at the incantations online, the sell well is shaderot + iron

[hearty fog]

The closest you get is bring Thanatos downstairs, Chronos will comment on a scythe vs scythe fight.

[copper vector]

what about my current masochistic state? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801078208162037825/1425944140725883042/image.png?ex=68e96d77&is=68e81bf7&hm=05738d463dfbba9979aa713ed7b640cdfb82fa0e20a0e23f19b98022a8c6c577&

[glad lake]

BONK, that was perfectly timed

[high steeple]

Are ashes used for any house decor? Or psyche?

[glad lake]

yes

[smoky rover]

oh, so they really did reset my incantation for the third time? lol

[glad lake]

someone please confirm whether || Dionysus leaves the party room or not after the first ending ||

[copper vector]

this probably the luckiest i have ever been in fear 40+ because of the amount of hammers i found,i think i might have maxed my staff too

[glad lake]

wait you are running Hepth attack and special?

[bronze marlin]

like I said above, the sell well is shaderot + iron. maybe you miss that one.

[little frost]

||he's got no reason to leave!! bros gotta celebrate||

[glad lake]

wait are you running nearly full Hepth? wat

[unreal temple]

||He doesn't even realize war ended||

[copper vector]

exactly

[placid spruce]

Does malice in kind deal 15% based on current or max hp?

[glad lake]

this makes me happy for some reason

[glad lake]

sooooooooooo how does it fare? is it fun? I never tried full Hep

[copper vector]

besides the cooldown,quite good actually, most enemies die in three combos (including the blue hearts). its mostly useful in crowds,im prolly gunna get ducked in chronos

[glad lake]

iiiiiiiiiinteresting

[high steeple]

||He doesn‘t ever leave afaik||

[glad lake]

wait wait, isn't there a duo which lets your Heph explosion strike twice

shouldn't it be automatic with Supay

[copper vector]

is this the first time you interacted with me? im mentally challanged and bruteforce my way through the game at 16-21 fps @720p

[glad lake]

I'm scared of you if you are serious

[copper vector]

*i am *

[glad lake]

WHY, HOW CAN YOU EVEN PLAY AT THAT FPS

[maiden salmon]

What do I have to do to unlock the invocation that rerolls the rng at the monument of night?

[copper vector]

cuz i was forced to lol,the game doesnt recognise my dedicated gpu and only my integrated intel hd 650 card. you can even see 16fps in the screenshot

[glad lake]

there must be a way to have the game recognise it

I was playing at 45 fps for 100 hours without even realising it wasn't on my normal GPU like a dingus

[sour flower]

i wish we got (post game spoiler) ||persephone boons along with hades||

my greed is insatiable ik

[copper vector]

#h2-tech-support message

[glad lake]

oh no I fixed it

[copper vector]

PLEASE TELL ME HOW I WILL EVEN Blank TILL YOU Blank

[glad lake]

it was in the options from the main menu

[simple sierra]

Here to spread the resurrected polyp propaganda. Will crush ||typhon|| so fast

[glad lake]

there's an option to pick which GPU you wanna use

[copper vector]

oh....just see the message i linked to understand my pain

[copper vector]

this one

[glad lake]

thaaaaaaaaaats weird

alright Rivals Chronos, with Nergal, wish me luck

[short raft]

Is this Nexus Dash normal behavior? dealing 5k+ to typhon by holding sprint?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/616845281140408355/1425947585339719771/image.png?ex=68e970ad&is=68e81f2d&hm=c4f28a7d0a5c8af501e09242f3417b70fd362c0c15e8b345b00c04eef09c0ceb&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1426&height=763

[glad lake]

btw is there any better start to Nergal and Apollo attack? I' have been using it for WIDE damage

[copper vector]

theres a saying in egypt about the soldiers deplyoed in the sahara "what did the general tell you!? make do! so what are you going to do?! Make do!"

[south reef]

sup guys
I have 2 question

1. do I have to romance Moros for epilogue?
   I kinda ignored the guy and now he does not talk about|| how to find fates|| and not progress the prophecy

2. does his keepsake count as death defiance and block strength arcana?

[glad lake]

I imagine Hera attack on Nergal should work too

[placid spruce]

Concave stone needs to stop taking the absolute worst boons ever

[simple sierra]

2. iirc yes (from playing his chaos trial, that was the interaction I found)

[devout cairn]

you don't have to romance him

[south reef]

is there an info how much you have to progress his link till he can talk about it?

[copper vector]

||i want to romance zag||

[south reef]

I've already got to ambrosia gift

[lofty cobalt]

No, no absolutely noy

[south reef]

still doesn't talk

[lofty cobalt]

Not

[copper vector]

didnt say it had to be melinoe

[devout cairn]

I don't know if it's tied to his relationship at all besides the first gift to get his keepsake.

[lofty cobalt]

Just gift him as much as you can and yap at him till he talks about his fate and whatnot

[south reef]

he is a yapper alright

[outer cradle]

Best build for Anubis aspect?

[copper vector]

YEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS

[broken glen]

There’s a couple of directions you can go with it- Hestia attack is great, for starters. If you’re using regular attack, go cardio gain and a Hera boon for incandescent aura. If you’re using omegas, exceptional talent is fun (so get Apollo on special)

Everyone else, feel free to give (better) advice

[copper vector]

THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUUUTUTTUTUTUTU https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/801078208162037825/1425953263999778938/image.png?ex=68e975f7&is=68e82477&hm=6a983f8f0275656c54b94e9557cbccdf8041927c8b238a66526f65ba8be72caa&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=2489&height=984

[broken glen]

Congratulations! What build did you go for?

[copper vector]

NOTHING CAN STOP THE EGYPTIANS. THEY STILL WONDER HOW WE BUILT THE PYRAMIDS WHEN I JUST FINISHED 55F WITH 16-21 FPS AT 720P YEAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[broken glen]

Anubis?

[copper vector]

anubis? hold did they add anubis? i said pyramids and egyptian stuff because im genuinely egyptian

is it a grasp thing? because i never use grasp

[south reef]

is there somewhere any coherent info on how Power works exactly and what weapon it good and whats not?

[broken glen]

Oh nice! I just asked what build you went for and you mentioned Egyptians so I thought you were using aspect of Anubis

[south reef]

I wish game would tell you normally its number calculations

[copper vector]

chuckle oh sweet innocent thing,when you are doing a 55f underground run the only thing you have by your side is spite to fuel you forward and scummy tactics like ranged stuff

[broken glen]

Power refers to the base power of an attack, which can then be multiplied by a variety of boons. For example, an Aphrodite boon might add +200% damage to a 20 power attack, but secret crush will add 5 power to the attack.

[south reef]

how many power base each base weapon has?

[outer cradle]

So basically Hestia + Apollo type of thing?

[copper vector]

not even god is by your side because you betrayed him by doing a 55f run on sub 21 fps at 720p on a university laptop

[broken glen]

You can check just by hitting things

[south reef]

great...

[broken glen]

There isn’t a list of it that I know of (maybe hades 2 wiki but that isn’t very well kept)

[copper vector]

hephestus+one swing axe =dps god and you cant convince me otherwise

[keen chasm]

my game save is still getting corrupted when trying to fight Scylla

[copper vector]

see the local files for backups

[keen chasm]

i got 60 some hours of straight play time i dont like it

[broken glen]

Have you checked in with #h2-tech-support ?

[keen chasm]

i was checking if it was a community problem first

[copper vector]

i feel you, a save i had from v0.40ish got buggy and after losing hope i began to mess with it's files and replaying the game on a fresh save,throwning away my 100ish hours

[broken glen]

I don’t think it is

They’ll know what to do

[copper vector]

which allowed me to create funny cursed screenshots,like chaos boons at spawn(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801078208162037825/1425535873906249848/IMG-20251008-WA0002.jpg?ex=68e942bd&is=68e7f13d&hm=2dea27a4c1f61811764e2c7f9e8e23eed3e11d7021676f385bc92c7bdf34fb6b&) or a miniature sun(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801078208162037825/1425915098009964594/WhatsApp_Image_2025-10-08_at_20.50.37_b7f0f19e.jpg?ex=68e9526b&is=68e800eb&hm=7bee55565bef19dd50019fe73901aa8cb8e1e90055fa3f65160c70f67c758885&)

[pallid cradle]

Must be a Mac

[copper vector]

nah a hp probook 650 g3,2022 production

[pallid cradle]

No way you're getting only 20. Even the HP Stream can get it to 30. You messed something up.

The Switch 1 has hardware comparable to most smart fridges and even that gets 60.

[copper vector]

yeh,the game only reads my integrated intel hd card and not my dedicated amd for some ducking reason. i play at 16-21 fps at 720p lowest graphics

[copper vector]

its an old issue too

[ocean bough]

what are the requirements for the acceptance of another fate incantation?

[tranquil wren]

have 7 of each final boss drops

you may need these requirements as well, but I'm not sure
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/584505260068962304/1425960260614750228/image.png?ex=68e97c7b&is=68e82afb&hm=c9f4631b4b92ccbde1c9dcc2e2cc1062b109485cba35457a4649672489f252a8&

I think we should petition for embed perms. I can live with the slowmode but sharing images is so so bad

[nova oar]

Isn't it 7 and 5

[tranquil wren]

I only unlocked the incantation with 7 zodiac sand

or do you mean 5 lens? I'm not sure tbf, but I'd imagine it is also 7

[devout cairn]

it's 5

[nova oar]

Yeah it's 5 lens

[still dagger]

tonight, people. tonight is the night I beat typhon

[fathom lake]

Surely!

[copper vector]

hey btw..how many||dream vapors|| do i need to ||wake up hypnos?||

[nova oar]

||3||

[still dagger]

is the hidden of aspect of lim and oros good? what should i go for in terms of boon?

[grave maple]

Is there any route more likely to get a ||contract thing to fight zagreus? I got the keepsake from him but accidentally reset the night so I need it again.||

[nova oar]

Very good, and literally anything works, but zeus/heph is real good

[nova oar]

You can get it in midshops on both routes

[rough horizon]

You have two chances in both routes, but underworld should be faster since it's biomes 1 and 2 vs biomes 2 and 3

[still dagger]

k. omega attack feels weird, though. and the special feels like a worse version of the normal special for some reason

[tranquil wren]

tbf fighting ||zag|| in surface is probably easier because your build is a lot more fleshed out

[rough horizon]

Apparently it being slow helps a lot to use the boomerang properties and proc several blood triads at once

[nova oar]

It's very different to normal blades, just learn the normal or advanced combo and you'll be fine

[still dagger]

normal and advanced combo? the way I understood it is the blood triad works if any 3 attacks land (omega versions are also their own attack)

[nova oar]

Yeah the best way is special, attack, omega special, which activates triad and hits the omega again, attack, special, and repeat, or smth like that

There will be a video that explains it better

[nova oar]

Normal is special, attack, then omega attack, the advanced one is using omega special to proc triad and then hitting again to reactivate omega

[grave maple]

Thanks!

[still dagger]

do casts with a boon on them not trigger the triad? like hestia cast or demeter?

[tropic monolith]

has to be omega cast and then it works

But the omega part is what has to hit, so that's when it expires

[nova oar]

Damage from the omega cast would but it's absolutely not worth it

[tropic monolith]

sometimes I like to drop an omega cast right as I'm having to leave so it will just prep the omega hit for me later 😄

[still dagger]

so it;s either special, attack, omega attack or special, attack omega special (so I can chain into special, attack again)

[nova oar]

Yep

[tropic monolith]

or omega cast, it's just clunky

some of the ranged casts go farther than the omega special though so it's not always a "never use"

...though you'll often just use the omega attack to gap close in that situation >.>

[still dagger]

I'm guessing I won't be relying on attacks like with the normal lim and oros, just constant blood triads

[nova oar]

Yes

[still dagger]

uh, I can't remember if there was an arcana that let me channel faster or not

[tropic monolith]

there is

[nova oar]

The sorceress yeah

[still dagger]

is that medea on the sorceress card?

[hearty fog]

Yup.

[tidal cliff]

I found a bug with possessed array, it doesn’t count as using magic.

[hearty fog]

Not a bug.

[nova oar]

Not a bug

[hearty fog]

Got done in patch notes during EA and never received in-game notation to let people know.

[tidal cliff]

Mist veil is useless with it😔

[fathom lake]

Yeah they were a lil evil there

[hearty fog]

Oh, that's actually different.

Wow, they really broke it instead of balancing it. The patch notes said it didn't count for Hex expenditure, but you're burning through Magick and Mist Veil isn't replenishing?

[tidal cliff]

Yup, same with the Zeus boon

I have righteous pike, power surge and mist veil

[hearty fog]

Cheezus.

[fathom lake]

Power Surge Ick bleh we hate that boon here

[tidal cliff]

None proc when I pick up a skull

[buoyant flower]

how many runs might it take for me to get the actual ending? i just beat chronos for the first time

[tranquil wren]

11 more if you don't fail

[lyric quartz]

Alright what do you have to do to get ||Born to Win|| aside from talk to Big C constantly? Already have maxed out bond.

[steady gale]

Do the fates whim keepsakes styll have effect after switching?

[buoyant flower]

the hephaestus 200 dmg and 400 dmg boons carried my run did not expect that

[hearty fog]

Take the Embryo into Chaos, you should eventually get a prophecy.

[lyric quartz]

So just keep doing that, then.

[lyric quartz]

||12 Total; 7* for Chronos and 5 for Typhon. You need to complete the incantations that let you mog them||

[buoyant matrix]

7 for chronos

[buoyant flower]

thanks! this game slaps i wouldnt mind putting in more runs either im guessing much more secrets and stuff will be still hidden after 12 runs

[lyric quartz]

SO BASICALLY.

[still dagger]

does blood triad gain any boons/perks from my attack or special boons?

[tidal cliff]

BUT this comes with the upside that weedkiller seems to be proccing yet not actually increasing the magic cost

[nova oar]

No

[hasty ocean]

No, its damage doesn't scale with anything except the aspect's upgrade level. There is a hammer to boost it though, and Heph's legendary Premium Service will do it too

[dry goblet]

My brother bought Hades 2 for me as my birthday present 😭 Ws in da chat

[hasty ocean]

happy birthday!

[dry goblet]

ty

[woeful ingot]

Does the tools ||you use to gather resources gain a 2nd upgrade after you do it the first time?||

[lyric quartz]

You get the ending; Then for ||The Epilogue you need to complete at least one run topside and underworld again until Moros says 'Death to Chronos'; Then max bonds with Moros, Chronos, Heracles ( Probably missing at least one ), get dialogue from Prometheus mentioning the Three Fates, and then a funny little challenge in Oceanus where you activate the Engraved Pin in 3 consecutive rooms and then intentionally die.||

[nova oar]

Basically yeah

[inland sorrel]

does anyone know the pre-reqs for unlocking stardust in the broker's shop? I've reached the ending, done 6 chaos trials, casted all broker incantations - even nightmare is available but not stardust.

[tranquil wren]

I thought it was from doing chaos trials

as in, you unlock it at the broker by doing chaos trials

[tidal cliff]

I got it to appear relatively recently, maybe I hit the threshold of how many chaos trials you need to beat

[buoyant flower]

it seems u have poured an insane amount of time in the game innit

[inland sorrel]

@tranquil wren @tidal cliff gotcha... thanks! I unlocked them by just doing 1 or 2 chaos trials in early access like a year ago but when I started a 1.0 on switch, I'm having difficulty getting it to appear in the shop. Maybe the pre req changed ... dunno. Guess I'll just keep doing chaos trials

[nova oar]

Getting the epilogue doesn't take a massive amount of time

[buoyant flower]

also whats the point of goin up what do i get. i havent gone up much ngl

[tranquil wren]

yeah, it's taking me longer to do some of the NPC questlines (arachne and narcissus/echo)

[nova oar]

Get closer to the ending and more resources you need

[tidal cliff]

Entirely new areas with new enemies, pretty fun when you’ve only played hell the entire time

[fathom lake]

New resources
New story
new npcs
1 God?

[nova oar]

Yes

[fathom lake]

JUst go to the surface
Its fun

I love mel stickers heh

[dusty goblet]

What can I block and not block with the coat omega attack?

[fathom lake]

Most guardian attacks and Enviromental attcks are unblockable
No OP shield here nuh uh

[dusty goblet]

Okay thanks! Does it do more damage if I block with it or is it purely defense?

[nova oar]

Most projectiles and normall enemy attacks sre

[lyric quartz]

Not... Really? Less than 130 hours given that I've sporadically played it through EA and now 1.0.

[tidal cliff]

There’s a hammer for making it do more I think

[fathom lake]

Some hammers help but not normally

[nova oar]

Purely defensive, you can get hammers to make it do damage but it's never worth it

[dusty goblet]

Okay cool. Seems like I won't really be using it then thanks!

[lyric quartz]

||The last part I figured out because I was being stupid and went "Haha what if this is like Trial of Doom.||

[fathom lake]

The charged omega does a ton of damage
DOnt rely on the block like in hades 1 though
Especially with apollo or Aphrodite

[tidal cliff]

Isn’t aspect of Artemis just kind of a better version of that black coat hammer?

[dusty goblet]

Oh really? I was just kind of mashing square on it ngl lol

[fathom lake]

Hold the button and it will start charging

[nova oar]

Yeah but Mel blades is still better than Artemis, blocking mechanics don't really work in this game, at least not for my playstyle

[dusty goblet]

Yeah I know that I just meant I wasn't using it and was just using basic attacks!

[fathom lake]

Thats ok but dont fall to theO attck of the Black coat hate
Its really fun but its not the shield from hades 1 lmfao

[tidal cliff]

I just like doing big omega attack damage with aspect of Artemis sweeping ambush

[dusty goblet]

I'll try to implement it a little. This is my first time ever using the weapon

[fathom lake]

The special its a whole other deal they are very clunky lmao

[lyric quartz]

I just don't like Xinth in most forms

||Shiva Aspect is GOATed now though||

[dusty goblet]

am I better just tapping the special or trying to hold it?

[fathom lake]

yes

[fathom lake]

Just tap it put heph or blitz there idk

[tidal cliff]

omega special without eternity arcana just feels horrible to use

[dusty goblet]

I'll try to remember that thanks!

[nova oar]

It is fr

[fathom lake]

Np

[crude minnow]

wow I got 4 hammers in one run

[fathom lake]

So cooool

[storm glen]

i wonder how selene aspect is doing these days

[nova oar]

Not amazing

[fathom lake]

Ares Godsent 🤤

[storm glen]

oh yea i thought that was good bc it was bugged or something

i remember playing the standard version with moon beam start being pretty great

[mental forge]

hm

rolling credits feels
weird

[sour flower]

best weapon in the game

[copper vector]

wrong ||Black coat||

[sour flower]

selene keepsake doesnt disable ||fates whim|| right?

[sour flower]

credits were honestly the only part of the ending i genuinely loved. ||really beautiful moment||

[still dagger]

is aspect of selene good? I usually go for mel but I heard skyfall is p.good

[fast bloom]

This game could only be better if they added Zag a playable character and be able to play with Mel in Zag's runs and Zag in Mel's runs. Then, the game would be PERFECT

I am in absolute love with this game, i think i would explode if this happened. I would easily buy it as a dlc tbh

[unkempt zodiac]

I want custom chaos trials !!

[still dagger]

ngl feels like asking too much. but I wouldnt object to that happening

[fast bloom]

I know, but i would easily pay for a DLC if needed

[sour flower]

its not very interesting to play, but it isn’t a bad weapon. if you like spamming omega special that is essentially all its good for

[still dagger]

if I recall the range on the hex is pretty weak, wh ich is disappointing

[sour flower]

the chaos trial of the moon has a pretty interesting build with aspect of selene but it seems like it’d be hard to recreate in a run lol

[calm sorrel]

Doing ||rivals chronos ||
Beats phase 2: man, that was kinda disappoint tbh, not all that much harder
||PHASE 3 STARTS||

[pallid cradle]

Welcome to the laser show

[calm sorrel]

please stop praying for my grandpa, he’s getting too strong

[pallid cradle]

I went to a Linkin Park concert a few weeks ago. They had less laser effects on hand than Chronos.

[calm sorrel]

I lost a death defy cus I thought you had to stand on the clocks lol

[pallid cradle]

Makes sense. Phase 2 trains you to do that with a mechanic

[calm sorrel]

Also, it’s kinda funny that 3 of the 4 surface rivals are just “||the same fight, but now someone else is there too”||

[tropic monolith]

and 1 of the 4 underworld ones...

So in total, half.

[remote locust]

Now that we've reached version 1.0 and all, I'm curious what everyone else thinks about the "Blessing" of Strife mechanic when getting farther than "expected" in the early game?
I have my thoughts since early access, but before I voice them I wanna hear what others think

[devout cairn]

Ngl when Eris started || to show interest in meeting Ares, and given his motivations I thought homeboy was gonna be her duo for the rivals fight ||

[tropic monolith]

would have been more interesting...

[calm sorrel]

I played the first patch of EH then decided stop do a new save file for full release, it was kinda annoying to get slowed down so much lol

[tropic monolith]

I've never run into it but I don't see why people need slowing down if they want to start a fresh game and tear through it

[remote locust]

Oh don't worry! I still got spooked silly the first time I saw ||her wielding Aspect of Lucifer||

[calm sorrel]

Yeah it would have been better, her and ||cerb|| are the weakest rivals imo, barely more of a challenge from base

[devout cairn]

i think cerb is fine, prometheus was more of a disappointment

[tropic monolith]

meanwhile Poly and the Sirens right before each of them are massive jumps in difficulty

[calm sorrel]

Maybe I’ll agree more when I fight them more but for now they are way harder to me

[tropic monolith]

Rival prom felt a lot like the equivalent for the heroes of elysium in 1; the fight wasn't really harder

[calm sorrel]

Hek too, and poly sucked my first few runs cus I didn’t see the ||curing pools|| lol

[devout cairn]

i think if you got the regular prometheus fight on lock just || adding a slow enemy to it doesn't really up the challenge. ||

except for his second memory game, but the solution for that is || killing heracles first ||

[calm sorrel]

I can do Prometheus just fine, but having ||two people to focus on at once|| is hard for me

[glass condor]

I probably wouldnt have noticed if I didnt play Hades 1 and had to use em there

[remote locust]

I still remember when in Early Access, the "blessing" didn't even help give more meta progression resources. It just felt like an unfair finger on the scale, punishing you for being a Gamer™

[tropic monolith]

poly is just brutally hard to get in close with melee and then the added mechanic makes it even worse, which was the wrong thing to boost up

[calm sorrel]

Yeah, the resources are a nice touch

[dusty goblet]

How am I meant to be using aspect of Medea? Just spam attack then dash into the enemy with the special?

[tropic monolith]

the key is to play like normal and just never stop moving while you hit and run Prometheus. ||Heracles|| is really ineffective at sticking to you.

[remote locust]

I still don't really like the "Blessing" of Strife mechanic, personally, like at all. My suggestion was to instead add extra rooms or additional waves of enemies in encounters. A player with good fundamentals getting ahead of the curve should be rewarded with more time face-to-face with new enemies to learn their attack patterns, not less.

[devout cairn]

I agree, the Strife mechanic felt like Story getting in the way of gameplay in the worst way possible. "No you are not allowed to win this just yet it will mess with the story progression"

[remote locust]

Yeh
Been reminded of the mechanic watching Shenpai's new upload where it came up

[lyric quartz]

Big thing with the Sirens is ||Roxy is a bait and switch, it's easier to focus on Charybdis first because her tentacles are what makes it silly.||

[tropic monolith]

yeah but even doing that I eat a ton of random hits and it's a bigger increase in challenge than the bosses before or after

[still dagger]

I just realized the outer ring of hecate's attack does damage. I thought it was the entire circle and I always ran away

[tropic monolith]

dangerous to go in, but rewarding

[glass condor]

Press x once or twice then special into enemies. Do this really fast tho when specialing between enemies. Use all ur attacks for a big hit if they armored

[still dagger]

it's kind of like prometheus' attacks too

[dusty goblet]

Ah okay I think I get it. Thank you

[glass condor]

Careful ur special doesnt have i-frames so its best to not special head on while they attacking

[pallid cradle]

Scylla has enough meaningful change that I'd say it's more than just a +1

[dusty goblet]

Good to know. Is that the same with the axe omega attack? If I charge then dash out of it I feel like I don't get iframes

[pallid cradle]

I'm more willing to say "we just changed Cerb's color pallet and gave him a backswipe you can see from 27 miles away"

[tropic monolith]

||Charybdis|| is just one!

and if "changing the battle" counts then both Poly and Typhon change as well as gaining one

[remote locust]

Also worth mentioning, it's more than "just" a +1 in all those cases. Polyphemus ||gets more aggressive version and combos of his attacks|| , Scylla ||has a really freakin annoying dash attack before opening out of her shell|| , etc

[tropic monolith]

tbh I feel like those two are overtuned and I'd love to see a small nerf to them, even though I'm well past having issues with them at this point

[glass condor]

U can dash while charging ur axe omega and itll start spinning where u dodge

[tropic monolith]

and wow do I wish this behavior were consistent across weapons

[glass condor]

Me as well haha

[devout cairn]

their added aggression certainly added to challenge, also poly starts comboing attacks. It's why I didn't like Rivals Prom that much, if something changed in him I couldn't tell at all

[dusty goblet]

It felt like if I dodged while charging to cancel out of it early I wouldn't get frames and would still get hit. Is that true or just skill issue lol?

[glass condor]

U cant cancel it by dodging

U gotta commit to the omega attack

[tropic monolith]

skill issue; I found myself dodging really close to incoming attacks while charging and the start animation of the dodge does not have iframes

[dusty goblet]

I think I had the hammer that's let's you do things while the special is going off if that changes anything

[remote locust]

So far I've preferred keeping Vow of Rivals 3 off, but in my experience he's ||also generally more aggressive. It seems like he also uses his flurry of fireballs attack way more often, making it hard to focus down Heracles first||

[devout cairn]

I guess that's true, he uses that attack more often

[glass condor]

Anyways reason i brought up medea special is its a fast attack that looks like a dodge of sorts u can use it as a dodge range extender if u special right after dodging, but no i-frames u gotta be a bit careful when spamming specials thru enemies

[dusty goblet]

Yeah I'll keep that in mind thanks

[tropic monolith]

I like to use it as a "I just dodged an attack and gotta move before I eat the followup" escape

[glass condor]

Yeah same here haha , it does come in clutch at times

[tropic monolith]

I've tried to focus both first, the fight is just way easier if I take out Prometheus entirely

[remote locust]

I've only done the fight a few times but preferred to focus down ||Heracles|| first. I really didn't enjoy having to deal with him during the "Simon Says" fire special, lol

[tropic monolith]

He's just so ignorable though, just keep moving a bit and he'll never close with you

[vapid igloo]

ita funny i think my first fights with Rivals Eris and The Band were really easy but ever since they have been so much harder

[tropic monolith]

I really dislike the simon says as a mechanic, but I deal with it by ||actually saying out loud where the safe part is then it's really easy for me to keep track of the 5 steps||

[remote locust]

It probably has a lot to do with what kind of build you're using. For example, VoR Eris' ||bombs|| can be hard to clean up with certain weapons -- especially the Sister Blades, whose special so AGGRESSIVELY locks on to any valid targets, of which those are not considered. And their standard attack being, well, short ranged melee hits

[pulsar pier]

I have ||frinos ||and have had for a while. I have beaten ||grandpa|| trice and ||typhon||twice. I have 8 of the treats and can't seem to find another animal, nor can I upgrade ||frinos||.

[glass condor]

I literally do the same thing haha

It helps so much m. I never get hit

[tropic monolith]

it was way harder when I just tried to memorize it silently!

[glass condor]

Yesss wayyy easier

[remote locust]

Now here's the question: Do you say "left, middle, right" or "top, middle, bottom"?

[humble urchin]

for upgrading him you’d need to unlock a few more atleast if i’m not mistaken

||You can find Raki (the bird) in the fountain room in erebus, and Toula(The cat) on the leftmost dock in the first room of the Rift of Thessally||

[glass condor]

Top middle bottom

[remote locust]

I say left, middle, and right

[tropic monolith]

top middle bottom!

[broken glen]

Raki is in the fountain chamber in Erebus.
Toula is at the entrance at the docks of Thessaly.
Once you tame those two, you can unlock the rest

[merry whale]

top middle bottom

[humble urchin]

i say 1, 2, 3

[glass condor]

Damn thats wild

[pulsar pier]

Just sitting there?

[tropic monolith]

I found ||Raki|| dead last, as did my friend. After about 30 hours of play.

We had to hunt them down.

[broken glen]

Yep

[tropic monolith]

||Toula is off to the left when you're about to leave the first area in the Rift; actually Raki is also off to the left in fountain chambers in Erebus.||

[humble urchin]

if i’m not mistaken after the first time he shows up, if you can’t recruit him yet, he always shows up in that room

[tropic monolith]

yeah somehow neither of us were finding that room ever.

[pulsar pier]

Alright, hopefully the fountain shows up on this run then

[remote locust]

Vow of Rivals 3 buff: Prometheus vocally says random positions during the special to mess you up
Have you ever tried to do math while a friend tries to be funny by blurting out random numbers?

[tropic monolith]

I've heard the fountain keepsake may increase the odds, but also things like ||go opposite charon's mid-area shop and avoid arachne seems like higher chances of a fountain||

[humble urchin]

yeah it’s just luck/rng really

[tropic monolith]

you say that, but two runs in a row when I went in specifically looking for it there it was

[tropic monolith]

Yes, ship it

[pulsar pier]

Whats the best start for aspect of circe?

[humble urchin]

i don’t wanna say for certain but i’m pretty sure that doesn’t change up the chances, but that might be the case

[tropic monolith]

nah it doesn't change the chances, I was just going for the rooms that could spawn it, and it was there

[remote locust]

That reminds me, I fought the skeleton captain miniboss for the very first ever time many runs after I rolled credits

[humble urchin]

i really like Zeus keepsake because storm ring is great on it, and so is his special

[glass condor]

Zeus cast

[pulsar pier]

IS getting apollo/posiden omega cast worth it?

[humble urchin]

yeah that happens quite commonly! it has happened to quite a few people, or instead it happens with the other Thessaly miniboss

[glass condor]

Yes

[tropic monolith]

he was super late for me too!

[glass condor]

And demeter too

[pulsar pier]

So cast buff + whatever gives origination?

[humble urchin]

yes, Geyser Spout from Poseidon and Prominence Flare from Apollo are great boons for Circe, you can then pivot to an omega cast build alongside Demeter’s Local Climate

[tropic monolith]

yeah we were contemplating how funny it would be if someone first fought ||Charybdis|| with the rivals scylla

[humble urchin]

the game actually locks you out of it, to be able to unlock rivals 2, you have to have naturally faced ||Charybdis|| first

[tropic monolith]

oh no that's awful given how rare it can be to show up

[humble urchin]

I personally rarely omega cast if i have not gotten Geyser spout atleast, but it’s not necessarily bad at all

[remote locust]

Really? That's strange, I feel like I see Charybdis on half of my Surface runs

[tropic monolith]

I've done ~20 runs and fought him 3 times

something like that

I wonder if I can get exact numbers

[remote locust]

His attack where he fires a volley of homing splitting projectiles still gives me trouble tbh. Like I'm not sure how best to cleanly avoid the whole attack, with how the bullets swarm

[tropic monolith]

yeah me neither

[glass condor]

On a circe build? Id be omegacasting tough enemies all the time

[tropic monolith]

wait the stats don't split between clear count underworld/surface?

Lame

[still dagger]

crazy thought; moonbeam is the worst hex.

you have to be precise with aiming, you're stationary and you still take damage

[remote locust]

Hades 3 suggestion: Co-op. Playing as Zagreus and Melinoe

[humble urchin]

there are 2 ways to deal with it

When she transitions into that phase where she sends out those bullets, you go to the bottom of the arena (near where the exit door is) and after she shoots out all of the bullets, you walk towards the upper most part of the arena, a lot of them would expire while you get there

the second, cooler way is that if you position yourself currently behind the exit door, the projectiles just hit the door and dissappear without splitting lol

[glass condor]

Thatd be dope

[tropic monolith]

I thought this too, but you can upgrade it so you have armor (Which lets you fire it off for big upgraded damage and soak one big hit for free each time) or so it fires while you run off and do your own thing

It's generally weak without upgrades though

[remote locust]

Sounds like someone doesn't use Aim Assist? It's super aggressively assisted in my experience

[glass condor]

Its probably my favourite ive nearly one shot bosses with it

[humble urchin]

That hex goes from one of the worst to absolutely broken with the Godsent and a few upgrades lol

[tropic monolith]

?? Moonbeam never aim assists for me, do I just need to not hold a direction?

[still dagger]

what does aim assist affect? I only had problems with moonbeam and the special for morrigan's aspect

[glass condor]

The triple beam plus godsent is ridiculous

[remote locust]

You do hold a direction toward enemies, it's just extremely lenient. Do you use controller?

[tropic monolith]

tbh I'm disappointed in it doing that, I don't like it when something goes from total junk to "How did I live without this" just due to upgrades

[iron sonnet]

I say "up" "middle" "down"

[humble urchin]

indeed, not even maxed out it was doing 13k damage a use on ||Typhon||

[tropic monolith]

yes I use a controller and have aim assist on, and moonbeam goes exactly where I'm pushing on the controller and no assist

[still dagger]

how is it possible to one shot bosses?

[humble urchin]

ehh i see where you’re coming from but tbh most hexes are like this, without upgrades and in some cases without the godsent they’re really not that great

[glass condor]

Triple beam + godsent + power

[tropic monolith]

I do aim at enemies near the edge of its range, maybe the aim assist needs them closer

[still dagger]

I've never seen triple beam. is it one of the special cornerstones? nvm I remember. I just haven't used moonbeam in a long time

[glass condor]

Ye

[remote locust]

I actually quite like Lunar Ray, and often pick it! Even in base form, while it might not be a nuke, its recharge amount is so low that each individual charge is quite disposable. If I start firing it in a bad spot and need to end it early to move, no biggie, I'll get it back in 1 or 2 moves.

[tropic monolith]

most aren't actively bad to activate without upgrades though

[glass condor]

Its generally good too if ur weapon doesnt have range

[tropic monolith]

the heal is also disappointing how weak it starts and how insanely good it can get

[still dagger]

I'm also iffy on darkside. it looks cool, but it feels pretty weak, I think the invulnerability is the selling point maybe

[tropic monolith]

yeah this is the one time I've really leaned on even un-upgraded lunar ray

[humble urchin]

dark side becomes bonkers with the godsent too

[tropic monolith]

I hate darkside.

But it's use is for a cast build, that's about it

[remote locust]

I usually pass up Dark Side too, but that's the impression I get too. I saw some spicy looking path upgrades involving applying Boon effects to its moveset, though

[still dagger]

tbh I've never once regretted picking up Morph.

[tropic monolith]

there's basically no situation I'd rather have dark side if I could have phase shift

...dark side would be better if I could end it on demand

[remote locust]

I found the one (1) situation the other day: ||out of time in Vow of Time at Prometheus, with Ares' heal-on-hit boon, to use the invuln to survive the Simon Says spec when there's no valid target||

[tropic monolith]

but arguably ||you wouldn't have run out of time with phase shift to help you tear through things instead||

[remote locust]

Oh I died and didn't have Dark Side, but I just meant that that was the one and only time I wished I had Dark Side lol

[still dagger]

what's the best way to use persephone's omega special? go straight into foes or circle them so for the projectile waves?

[tropic monolith]

I do think with some cast builds that have a couple good on-hits for attack/special you could upgrade dark side into something real nice, but that's a lot of investment for a pretty rare setup

[pine olive]

is there a reason we cant trade boss drops for kudos

[tropic monolith]

I assume because the costs for them scale up for the endless sink at the end, but it's annoying to me too

[remote locust]

How dare you! Our idol Scylla gave you that pearl personally!

[still dagger]

what's the best way to use persephone's omega special? go straight into foes or circle them so for the projectile waves?

[tropic monolith]

Speaking of Scylla, some other game did the same thing where when a clam enemy dies it goops itself by snapping shut, but she can freely snap shut without problem so how is she gooping herself when she's defeated!!!!

[paper kelp]

Is hecat romanceable, this will entirely decide if I buy the game lol.

[tropic monolith]

maybe #h2-builds-and-combat will have more opinion on that for you?

[pine olive]

no shes melinoes mother figure

[paper kelp]

Rip

[tropic monolith]

hey that never stopped Oedipus

[paper kelp]

Silence miscreant

[tropic monolith]

...didn't you want that

[paper kelp]

Only if they weren’t related

[tropic monolith]

I don't think they are

[paper kelp]

Eh still iffy, I’m good lol

It would be hilarious if the spider was though

[glass condor]

Whos all romancing ||hecate|| ?

[tropic monolith]

if this were BG3 we'd have romance options for everyone.

[paper kelp]

So who’s romanceable?

Ik Apollo isn’t ): but that’s about it

[tropic monolith]

gasp can't believe you want spoilers on key story elements like that

[paper kelp]

It’s the main selling point

[tropic monolith]

...I've been playing for all the wrong reasons

[paper kelp]

I had a good joke but I forgor

I shall look it up

[glass condor]

U can

Pretty sure every single person in crossroads

[abstract tendon]

most not all

[still dagger]

So, forging a bond upgrades the keepsake, right? I forged my first bond and it's Charon, I think it gives more money now

[unkempt zodiac]

Don't think so(?)

[tropic monolith]

Oh does it?

[glass condor]

I wasn’t expecting || hecate|| tbh lol

[paper kelp]

Four options, I don’t vibe with them so I’ll hold off until I have some more money

[tropic monolith]

You might have a bonus gold boon, that can increase the Charon amount

[muted ingot]

idek if that does help to upgrade them, because just using the keepsakes in encounters levels them automatically

oh yeah if you have quick buck it does effect coin purse

[still dagger]

true, but I'm not sure if the purse used to give me 195 coins before

you're right, I have quick buck

[muted ingot]

also chaos boon

[paper kelp]

I know nothing about the game so

[short raft]

for a second, Chronos Keepsake allowed me to turn Zeus mana recharge boon spere into gold.

[still dagger]

man, I wish I could turn down the volume for heph's hammer attack. feels like the hammer is in my ear

[tropic monolith]

That doesn't sound right, you could throw a bug report at it

[glass condor]

Ok nvm my friend was lying

He thinks taking a bath counts as romance lol

[abstract tendon]

yeah you can go to the bath with most crossroads characters he prob hasn't hit romance point with any of the characters yet its fairly obvious

[abstract tendon]

for this day and age sure but for greek times no

[glass condor]

Nah u can still take a platonic bath with the homies 😂

[abstract tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[nova oar]

Nothin wrong with a little naked time between besties

[vapid igloo]

Sure but the game retcones in incest in greek mythology

[still dagger]

does zeus' chain lightning do extra damage on single foes?

[bronze stream]

Did Oedipus go to Tartarus?

[nova oar]

No

[still dagger]

does it home in on enemies or does it only hit enemies if they're right next to the initial mob?

[bold hull]

hey i have 4k psyche, is there gonna be a use for it like leveling anything or is it safe to recycle?

[nova oar]

It targets other enemies

[nova oar]

Have you completed everything?

[bold hull]

i dont know what everything means yet. ive hit the main credits and am doing the after stuff now

[hasty ocean]

If there's a little icon on the psyche icon in the recycle menu, that means there's still more stuff you need it for

[bold hull]

thanks i will check that

[nova oar]

You will probably still need it then

[still dagger]

I beat prometheus before he could even summon any mobs

[wicked storm]

Anyone know the specific unlock requirements for chaos above/ below in pitch black stone? I feel like the only thing I haven’t done is roll credits officially yet but I feel that’s a pretty lengthy requirement for those chaos trials to unlock

[still dagger]

man, this stuff is almost buggy. how the hell are we supposed to deal with those spinning projectiles from the eye of typhon?

[nova oar]

There's nearly always somewhere on the stage you can stand and not get hit

[high basin]

what does "your omega moves are faster" mean? is it that they charge faster?

[nova oar]

Yes

[high basin]

thanks

[still dagger]

so what does forging a bond do?

[nova oar]

Nothing gameplay wise, it adds a line of text and the chibi art to the keepsake

U also need 10 of them for an achievement

[dusty ferry]

You also ||can get little chibi statues of those who visit or live in the crossroads|| for each bond forged among them

[warped hare]

So question about the vow of rivals ||how do I reach the 4th layer of bosses, I have got the true ending and killed both Chronos and Tyhton quite a few times and the other harder mode bosses countless times||

[daring sorrel]

man, I just defeated the last boss on the surface, soon after killing it my game crashed

and I had to start all over again, and no progression was saved, wtf!.............

[plain shale]

I’m almost there of getting the || dissolution of time all I have to do is beat one more time to get four typhon eye ||

[rigid fulcrum]

I think I'm getting the perfect Charon run.

[tranquil wren]

are you sure you've beat both unrivalled prometheus and unrivalled infernal beast?

[rigid fulcrum]

Or nearly. Epic Apollo Cast in the first room, Ares Special, Lightning Lance from Zeus, Poseidon Omega cast buff. It's beautiful.

[elfin heron]

Why is it when I have Static Shock, I see an extra yellow 20-30 on single enemies? I'm confused.

[nova oar]

They changed the requirements so u have to do other stuff too

[tranquil wren]

oh fair

[nova oar]

That's the static shock hitting them, but it can't bounce to anyone else and then back

[warped hare]

||Yes, how else would I beat the rivalled versions countless times||

[reef yoke]

im pretty sure my save game is bugged ive beaten the game multiple times and still havent located the 3 fates is there dialogue im missing?

[rigid fulcrum]

Check your fated list.

[reef yoke]

yeah it hasnt changed

[nova oar]

Have you rolled credits?

[reef yoke]

of course

[rigid fulcrum]

Are you absolutely sure? Screenshot now, just to check.

[nova oar]

Maxxed relationship with moros

[reef yoke]

dont have that

[rigid fulcrum]

Maxing his relationship isn't required for anything.

You have to get to a certain point for a later step, but that's much later.

But yeah, check the propechy on your fated list, to be double extra certain.

[wooden light]

after beating the game have you killed chronos and typhon?

[pale pier]

You gotta complete that one prophecy. I'm still not done with it, ||Prometheus refuses to say the thingy 💔Only one I'm missing ||

[warped hare]

I guessed so but I can't find info on what to do

[elfin heron]

It's a lot of rng with the dialogue. You gotta get specific lines from ||Heracles, Moros, Hecate, Prometheus|| and after it'll tell you what to do.

For some reason I kept getting generic dialogue from ||Prometheus|| until I did Vow of Rivals so that might be something to do with it (if it hasn't been done at all before).

[little frost]

has the fated list updated the fates quest?

[tranquil wren]

probably haven't seen all minibosses

[glass condor]

Yeap thats happened to me in both H1 and H2. I think there is a way to recover the saves between, but it defaults back to a safe save when crashing

[little frost]

thats like the big way to tell

[reef yoke]

no update list still says "Melinoe, help us".

and to locate the 3 fates

[ripe ice]

Trying to get all the keepsakes
||WHERE IS CHRONOS||
||WHERE IS HE||

[elfin heron]

||Erebus||

[rigid fulcrum]

Erebus.

[little frost]

hes around

[ripe ice]

where in erebus

[wooden light]

after beating the game have you killed chronos and typhon?

[pale pier]

I'm doing vow of rivals rn with him for the first time, I will update you when I get to his fight and let you know if it specifically has to do with that xddd

[tranquil wren]

where you ||usually met him during the story, near your keepsakes ||

[ripe ice]

||Does he not always show up then cause I have not seen him||

[tranquil wren]

no it's not guaranteed

[little frost]

yeah its not always

[reef yoke]

yes ive killed both

[warped hare]

Is there special requirements for some? Cause I have done so many runs, I feel like I would have seen them all otherwise

[tranquil wren]

no. check your prophecies shadow of doom and shadow of death to see if you've done them all

[reef yoke]

in beta and full release

[ripe ice]

Curses

[elfin heron]

I didn't get the line from VoR prom, but when I got that dialogue his solo dialogue advanced instead of looping generic stuff. Just to clarify what I was saying.

[tranquil wren]

for example, check this prophecy and see if you've completed it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/584505260068962304/1426014695424397464/2059DD1.JPG?ex=68e9af2d&is=68e85dad&hm=c684e55b06677a7ddfb333965173b8a6b2a0e3ec1cef489dafeb9e92c0109bf5&

[wooden light]

Where is the boar?

[tranquil wren]

ephyra

[wooden light]

I can’t find the infernal contract. Are there requirements to get it to show up?

[tranquil wren]

just need to be post ending and find it in a mid shop. 40% chance to find it

[elfin heron]

Ephyra, a skull indicator will be on the door. To the upper left is a mini boss Satyr, to the upper right is the Boar.

Depending on which door it is

[warped hare]

Yep done both shadow of doom and shadow of death

[tranquil wren]

it's joever, I've got no clue then

[rigid fulcrum]

Midshop, random chance.

I do hate that it's a midshop.

[nova oar]

40%

[dire turtle]

What is the strat for the skull?

[tranquil wren]

the only other thing I can possibly think of is getting at least the second skelly statue. if it's not that it has to be the most obscure thing you're missing

[nova oar]

Which aspect

[dire turtle]

Whichever is the strongest

[pale pier]

Medea, Zeus special

[tranquil wren]

attack -> special, rinse repeat

[dire turtle]

Ok ill give it a whirl

[rigid fulcrum]

Besides Zeus, what are the fun rush boons for Supay?

[nova oar]

Pos is best

[woeful blaze]

Great chaos below, achievement is locked, which i had cleared way before 1.0 update, and now there is no such trial in the chaos stone. Is this some bug, or am i missing something?

[tranquil wren]

poseidon with froth

[nova oar]

Nearly beat 55 fear with it (I suck at rival chronos

[tranquil wren]

need all keepsakes

[woeful blaze]

Oh, thanks

[tranquil wren]

nws!

[warped hare]

Skelly statue?

[woeful blaze]

So I got jeweled pomegranate, what are the other 2 keepsakes, and who gives them

[tranquil wren]

||chronos and zagreus||

[tranquil wren]

the schelemeus statues you get for beating certain Fear levels on underworld and surface. they're covered by veils to the right of schelemeus

[orchid bison]

Is the ||Chronos|| keepsake passive?

[tranquil wren]

wait I've just realised that I've never actually checked if slippery slope applies to breaker rush

[daring sorrel]

interesting
Do we know how to do so?

[nova oar]

No

[daring sorrel]

btw, the ||chaos ||keepsake, once you get one boon, do you keep it even after changing to a different keepsake? Or does it disappear?

[muted ingot]

you keep it

[daring sorrel]

great, ty!

[tranquil wren]

yeah I don't think it does. that's so tragic

[pale pier]

Is it just me or is the Eris vow of rivals fight easier than her regular one

[spice forge]

Hey so what are the chances of getting 2 duo boons offered when claiming one

[little mason]

Lol everyone says that

[daring sorrel]

not sure but getting much more often after the arcana

[little mason]

Wish they made her harder

[spice forge]

That's the thing I didn't have that arcana active at all

[glass condor]

Happens often enough tbh even without the arcana

I dont run the duo arcana and its hppened quite a few times

[brave drift]

Is anyone else having trouble triggering Narcissus's story? I'm on night 175; the initial dialogue triggered for it ages ago and I've had nothing since. I just finished the Denier of Suitors prophecy and did ~5 more runs after that and still nothing. I have every other optional storyline in the game done too, not sure if I'm just having crazy bad RNG.

[tranquil wren]

I'm guessing you've given as much nectar as possible to both narcissus and echo?

[brave drift]

I can't even gift Echo.

[nova oar]

Theres the problem

[tranquil wren]

you need to talk to her and then gift her

[brave drift]

I talk to her every time I see her, I don't have an option to gift her. Never have

[tranquil wren]

it only appears after you've talked to her in the room

[woeful ingot]

Is || Fated glory the song apollo sings at the top of palace of zeus?||

[brave drift]

I'm way past that now so I'm not sure, I finished the main story and everything else in the game. This is the only thing I need

[little mason]

[meager garden]

You can only gift after talking to her

Because of echo's gimmick, if you gifted first, you'd mess up the last words that mel said

[brave drift]

I'm on night 175, I've talked to her many times lol. I'm thinking this save is bugged for her. I never have the option to gift her

[tranquil wren]

bro I promise you just need to talk to her and then gift her right after

[brave drift]

If the other achievements I needed weren't locked behind this I would just do it on another save

OH. jfc I was misreading lmao sorry yall. talk and then gift after, i'll try that

[next cargo]

it's part of her bit lol

[tranquil wren]

lmao nws

[brave drift]

that's what i get for taking the boon and running off as soon as possible i guess xD thank you guys!!

[next cargo]

stay awhile and listen

should I use judgement and circes keepsake

[stuck lagoon]

is there a level up system for pets?

[next cargo]

yes

[brave drift]

i've had so much fun with that build lol

[next cargo]

life is like a box of chocolates run

[stuck lagoon]

when can I unlock it

[next cargo]

you're pretty close

[stuck lagoon]

I just unlocked the biscuits recipe

[next cargo]

well you did unlock it then

[novel turtle]

I was talking to my partner on the phone while playing and had to say something important so I paused and Chronos chewed me out

[crude minnow]

end game decoration spoilers || for the chibi stautes, is someone beside dorus and eris? looks like one is missing ||

[atomic river]

how much "power" does slow cooker the infusion of hestia like increase your damage by

[little mason]

2 each fire element

[next cargo]

Ares is goated

boatman or excellence?

[crude minnow]

boatman is so good

[next cargo]

I can never justify using any other cards than what I have

although I can get a little of the best of both worlds by using circes keepsake

there's a 2/11 chance I get what I want

at the same time, there's a 2/11 chance of pulling death which I definitely do not want

[covert badge]

boatman cuz it activates the fates if you use both of rerolls cards
also money at the starting point is handy
also activates divinity if use sorceress, the furies, the swift runner, and the enchantress/the champions

[next cargo]

such a shame the other cards weren't better

yeah I have divinity

[unkempt zodiac]

After learning both the 1.0 keepsakes and hecate's keepsake keep their effects even after you remove them, I'm not sure which keepsakes DONT keep their effects permanently. Like, does Odysseus' keepsake's damage reduction last after you take it off? Does eris keepsake keep scaling and keep the buff after you take it off?

[next cargo]

I can't think of a better deal than this unless I couldn't use it

Hecate is just a buff tho

it's like getting a centaur heart

[unkempt zodiac]

Yeah and it doesn't debuff when you remove it

The 1.0 keepsakes are especially weird in this regard tho

[next cargo]

I also really like the embryo

sometimes I'll take the extra if there's one in the town too

the sprint speed one is really good I think

[covert badge]

am i the only one who not much thrive of ||apollo's singing? he's a bit shout-y but thats a certain vibe ig||

[merry whale]

ye ||he's def more of a forceful singer lol||

it's fun but also ow my ears

[covert badge]

||like im listening to zeus/hera/dem dialogue meanwhile apollo just vibing in the background uninterrupted|| lol

[crude dragon]

Boatman for turning on Fates

[crude dragon]

Eris keepsake does keep scaling now, please look forward to it

Bones don't persist

[warped hare]

Oh I just unlocked them, I just hadn't talked with him in ages lmao

[ebon wing]

Just did the ||Typhon with Cronus fight|| I lost

Haven't lost in awhile either they messed me up

[elfin heron]

How far did you get?

[lyric quartz]

Least it’s more fun than ||Unrivaled Peepaw and his spamming of the insta kill||

[elfin heron]

I hate the ||circle thing in Chronos' third wave the most||

[wind heron]

EVERY TIME I SEE THAT CHRONOS SPRITE I FLINCH

[crude dragon]

||Moisturized Chronos||

[devout cairn]

why he lookin at me like that

[wind heron]

can i skip the credits

[nova oar]

Not really

[wind heron]

if i quit out rn where does it send me because the game doesn't continue if i tab out

[devout cairn]

idk try it out

[tardy swift]

Anyone have a screenshot of what “Proclaim” does at the Mixer after performing the “Long Arm of the Unseen” incantation?

[nova oar]

It's the same as the hidden aspect unlock

[tardy swift]

What’s that mean? If it’s a reference to Hades 1 I never unlocked it

[nova oar]

As in the animation that plays

[wind heron]

it is crazy how little of a fight hades' genes put up when it came to zag holy hell

[covert badge]

||it'll revert back to the beginning of the ending cutscene in the house of hades again||

[wind heron]

hair colour and ONE eye

[tardy swift]

Was hoping for a screenshot or a gif so I could see how it looks

[plush zenith]

so has anyone succeeded in icarus romance? is there some requirement to be able to progress past the 8th heart?

[stoic urchin]

daaamned if you do and if you don'ttttt

now we got you in our tentaclessss

tentaclesssssss

[covert badge]

gotta read his requirement in the codex ig

[nova oar]

Why not do it and make one yourself

[tardy swift]

It’s a decent number of resources upfront. Just figured someone else would have gotten it by now

[nova oar]

I mean for the first 40 tiers it takes very few resources and kudos

[tardy swift]

I’m stingy, what can I say

[novel turtle]

gang where on earth is raki in the fountain room

[tardy swift]

Also, 40 tiers??

[nova oar]

Theres 50 total

First 10 require 1 of each resource

Then 2 for the next 10, up to 5 on the last 10, and increasing amounts of kudos

[tardy swift]

Hard pass then. Especially if it doesn’t affect gameplay. Definitley not investing in all of that if I don’t even know what each tier looks like or does

[nova oar]

I mean i've done it cause I had the leftover resources but no point actively grinding

[tardy swift]

What does it change?

[nova oar]

The icon at the bottom of damage taken on the victory screen

[wind heron]

how do you get the new keepsakes?

[nova oar]

U want spoilers or hints

[wind heron]

spoilers

[tardy swift]

What? That’s it?😆

[nova oar]

Basically yeah

[nova oar]

||hades, chronos, zagreus||

[bold hull]

is there any point to adding vows when just trying to get a clear with a weapon? do they add anything if not going for the testament kill?

[nova oar]

Nope

[cold wasp]

what am i supposed to do after i complete the main story? how do i do the post game stuff

[plush zenith]

it says ||he is reluctant to accept ambrosia until we've had more time to reconnect|| whatever this means

[little mason]

play on hardcore mode

beat the game 1st run clear

[rigid fulcrum]

Is there a way to get the music shade in the Crossroads to play songs with lyrics? Like the Scylla and the Sirens songs.

[spare tinsel]

unfortunately no

it was the same way in Hades 1 aswell sadly

[rigid fulcrum]

Well, Orpheus could sing his own songs at least.

Which were the bulk of songs with lyrics.

[spare tinsel]

yeah but even if you played one of his songs he wouldnt sing it... he would only sing if he started doing it naturally

[rigid fulcrum]

Really? Dang, it's been ages since I played. That's a shame.

Let me listen to Scylla and the Sirens without the murder times going on... I guess there is youtube.

[spare tinsel]

huge shame for specifically Its In the Blood, since that only ever gets sung during the credits, Orpheus never starts singing it himself at the house

[dusty ferry]

It would be awesome if they were summoned to play with the music guy if you played one of their songs in the crossroads.

Even if only once in a while

[brisk portal]

I'm sorry how does Athena know that Zagreus favorite boon was the Divine Dash. The one boon I always picked in Hades 1 no matter

That caught me so off guard

[dusty ferry]

The devs looked at the stats and put that in as dialogue, across like, all players, not your specific stats

[rigid fulcrum]

Because it's a very common beloved pick in the community. Lots of people liked it, not just you.

It would be cute if they tracked your favorite boon from Hades 1 on her, but it's just foresight, not mind reading 😄

[dusty ferry]

Yeah its not Metal Gear Solid 1 where Psycho Mantis literally has dialogue based on your game data on the console

[spare tinsel]

post game spoilers but ||theres also a line from Zag where he says he was frequently using the Aspects of Nemesis for the sword and Aspect of Eris for the gun, which are two of the most popular aspects in the game, and says that maybe theyre where they belong now||

[glad lodge]

Can someone explain how the boon/hammer RNG works? I have a run that has a great starting boon, but the hammer after it is always random, am i doing something in the first combat changing the options of the hammer?

[spare tinsel]

hammers are just rng, they dont read your inputs to see what you might like

[glad lodge]

i know that haha, im just wondering if there is any consistent RNG manip

[wind heron]

wow all i have to do is use my omega cast for a whopping 50 damage??? thanks artemis

[unkempt zodiac]

I can't tell if that's sarcastic (easy shot isn't bad in the right build)

[wind heron]

50 damage seems a bit lacking idk but omega casts in general just seem like such a waste

[unkempt zodiac]

It's only good if you buff it specifically

In general cast boons don't affect the omega at all but if you pump up the omega cast specifically it can be quite strong

Ares, apollo, hermes, and demeter all have ocast buffs, probably more I'm not thinking of. Stack em up and it goes crazy

Especially on circe and Charon ofc