#h2-discussion
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People don't talk about how e33 kinda inaccessible if you have a bad pc tho that game is so heavy š
GOW was peak
I do honestly prefer playing H2 over silksong casually but I feel Silksong is just incredible across the board
god of war story was beautiful
this!! gow was amazing as a sequel. so many things changed, the art direction was amazing and the story was great.
Kratos secret boss in Hades but he kills Chronos for Melinoƫ
I feel like silksong won't win just because it has some problem with difficulty curve that turned a lot of people off
I feel like silksong will win because of its hype
Yeah, which is unfortunate
If Astro Bot can win then Hades II can win. I'm not criticizing Astro Bot (I think it is great) but its win shows that gameplay, ease of entry, and broad appeal play big factors. I think Hades II has much broader appeal than expedition 33. So I think it is a toss up
What if Chronos is secretly Kratos in cosplay?
Kratos you dIETING?!?!
Eh, I can't be mad if Silksong beats out Hades 2, both are deserving.
I've seen some people talking about that but I haven't been able to play Silksong yet. What is it regarding the difficulty? I remember HK being alright?
We will just have to seee
I think H2 will win over silksong but I donāt know if either will beat out e33 cuz I donāt know anything about it
Polygon review be sounding like the critic from Ratatouille
āIt makes me think of the martini. Countless variations exist, the cocktail having been shaken and stirred by literally every bartender who's clocked into a shift since its 19th-century invention, but we all know which recipe is the best; a certain British superspy famously swears by it. The original remains the gold standard, 150 years later. Will the strawberry basil negroni have that staying power? Riff on the classics all you want. At some point the menu needs a new drink.ā
itās like hollow knight but every enemy deals 2 masks of damage
Early game difficulty curve in Silksong is a bit scuffed.
me sending my prayers to the gods so that hades 2 wins goty just like hades 1 did in 2020
It smooths out and they're patching things but the early game can be quite, quite brutal.
There is a bit of a difficulty issue with some bosses and area that caused a lot of player frustration (bilewater, moorwing etc)
I just noticed people were complaining about the diagonal pogo š¤”
Sorry to disrupt the off-topic, but do you guys know if the +x% stat after using Hexes stacks on multiple Hex uses ? If so, simple addition, or multiplicative ?
I believe itās additive but Iām not sure
I don't think they stack after many uses... But I might be wrong.
Crazy that people kinda forget about donkey kong bananza too it was a pretty good game 
where hades 2
I forgot about it and I beat it like a month ago oops
tomorrow
seems like Nintendo is what the gamers have decided to hate on this year after the whole 80$ drama
id much rather an indie game win this year than a triple a game
i'll be uninstalling youtube so i wont get any "HADES 2 ENDING AND EPILOGUE" kind of video
has an indie game ever wone yet
did celeste win? i cant recall
But what about ferret? I unfortunately only bring gale along with me
Undertale? Undertale won iirc
Hades is considered an indie game
Yeah the pricing sucks so I hope hades 2, silksong anf e33 take all the discussion so they learn from them 
TLOU2 won goty in 2020 though iirc
Bold assumption that Nintendo, the company with a long standing practice of anti-consumerism, will ever learn anything
IIRC, they don't stack
Ferret are using their messenger job as a cover to do some monitoring of your house for their future heists, everybody knows that
I still haven't played e33 tho despite the constant praise cause it's so heavy on the graphics š
Suits will never learn anything that benefits the people they sell to
they'll learn how to make those games but in zelda
just give em like 6 years
Triple A has no actual reason to price games low because people buy them regardless
The audio makes it hilarious
SHORBADY DOO
Anyways, speaking of good game developers, man, supergiant sure has done a great job with this game that costs half as much as most others
and it's almost twice as long lmao
Imagine if they didn't release hades 2 in EA and it launched with all the broken stuff lol 
Quick everyone, say "Thank you supergiant" in unison (dont actually, theyll understand)
i've got 150hours of playtime and still manage to find good builds and have fun
Thank you supergiant

Thank u for giving me this two year long hyperfixation
Who remember staff poseidon special spam and zeus 1 button sprint build 
spirit surge on launch
I have 279 i no longer play this game for "fun" I play for SUFFERING
release momus ā„ release supay ā„
I have 719 hours at this point theyāre functionally paying Me money to play the game
post-rework revaal just melting everything
god i miss the old thunder sprint+spirit surge+double strike so much
Me pretending like I don't care about hades 2 so it would come faster
Quick question, do you uh, have time to breathe?
I take everything back. I play P3 and had the same problems... I have no idea what's happening. Never had this problem last year playing HK. I don't understand
230 hours here. Probably won't slow down until I finish the story, get all prestige unlocks, and beat 32 heat for all weapons both surface and underworld
what's hades 2?
Iāve been here since dayyy 1 baby
Some game idk
If you donāt look at the screen they will release it early!
ALL WEAPONS?
Okay but remember old hestia 
not each aspect, just each of the 6 weapons. That's what the game tracks
chat when's transistor 2 coming out
me waiting for hades 2...
Hope very heavy they dont nerf Ares more in this update
To this day I'm not sure why they made the Magick using sprints go away. I thought they were a very cool way to add a bigger place for Magick in the gameplay.
Right now the only reason to want Magick is exactly for omega moves which is okay but less variety
damn ign gave hades 2 a 10/10. rare ign w lol
Legendary Rush boon!š
too much water
I know ign takes major Ls, but really? Rougelite? Right of the bat?
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Sorry I gotta go with a 7/10, not enough water
(hades 2 is a roguelite)
rouge
Yes, a roguelite, not a rougelite
lmao do you guys remember when zeus' born boon used to prime 70% of our available magick and aphrodite's randomly chose one enemy to be weakened?
oh LMAO
Well, we unlock arcanas and weapons do we not?
You missed the point...
Cause it was kinda brainless ngl, you get absurb reward for very little input which would get boring pretty quick
their spellcheck failed them
I love rougeing
indie goty's bout to go crazy this year
Oh lol
Gotta love rougelites, my fav genre
Putting on some light rouge
roguelime šāš©
I get that but I'd rather it be nerfed instead of just removed. Plus, Zeus dash stayed the same and now it just doesn't take Magick, no?
Who here played the og Rouge
Light Rouge is what I call the whitewashed sonic character
I play rouge in dnd does that count
I think its damage has been reduced and the tick time increased?
A redlite for the french inclined
Remember when Poseidon's made you chase down little MP bubbles that only had a chance to sp-
Oh right it still exists, it's just on Ares now
Well most god boons are not supposed to have a downside i think, having sprint use up your magicks even if you don't want it to is a downside
Between skong and hades 2: Olympian boogaloo we got some banger indies this year, oh and deltarune tommorow happened
OLYMPIANO BOOGALOO
Even so wish some rushes had Magick use. Like Nyx's Omega Boost, it'd be cool to have something similar for rushes as tier 2
such a bad and pointless change honestly. i HATE running around to catch stuff. mortal gain was such a better idea and fit ares way better.
Isn't it some literary major book or something?
Mortal gain was goated
That said
Blood drops > Plasma
What about old hera cast that's basically an instant room clear 
It was unique and DANGEROUS! so cool
Hades 2 tomorrow⦠enjoy hestia while you still can
I will say that Ares legendary boon with mean streak is just a busted combo and I love it
One more sleep before release
How could I not but be a happy man
whats happening with hesia?!
that was my favorite interaction of her boon. being able to curse everyone no matter tha range? bro I miss that cast.
People think shell get nerfed
Were kidnapping her
bro what
So, uh, how many hours 'till the release? I assume it releases at the same time world wide, but no idea when.
do you guys think hestia will get nerfed? wait why.
Roughly 21 hours
12am tmrrw
Its midnight est iirc
Like how do they manage to spell it differently in both occasions
21hrs here... south america
blood drops is SO more fitting for a GOD OF WAR.
Hestia is lowkey the goat for damage, strongest god in the roster if you're not in a hurry imo
21? Daaamn... It's 9pm here, so I was kinda hopeful, but oh well. It's sleep and work before it's out.
Hestia is very strong if you get the scorch effects deal damage faster boon. There are certainly combos that can put out more damage, but a scorch build is very strong for having so few pieces and being so easy to use
THE MAN IS LITERALLY DRIPPING BLOOD
HE LOVES IT
WHY ARE WE ONLY GETTING THE PLASMA, GIMME THE IRON
Iām just playing but rivals scylla is 100% getting nerfed (please)
Hopeful? There's a map in one of the channels showing the exact release time in each region
hestia op
Hestia + Aphodite is absurdly strong
Btw, release will get us the ending right? you think they will do a major update along the release?
Itās blood plasma
prob not but who knows
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Oh? I'll see if I can find it
Like new bounds ect ?
even something like bloodsheed score would sound better than plasma 
I doubt it'll be anything major balance wise, but I expect we'll get a lot more content than we think at first
Golden Rule come back 
no!
Can't wait to see Zag again
the old geyser spout 
Yeah, I know. But the flavor of it all is still lesser imo, blood is blood, plasma is just a small part of it. Weird choice for ares to not stick with blood as a whole
Only reason I can think of is that plasma is much easier to see
Yeah pronto had been spamming complaining about Ur schylla... I really hope they keep it
yeah that one
I can't wait for zag to get 1 voiced line and nothing else
Don't even play with that man
I miss my boy
It was definitely not just pronto lol
Zag secret boss maybe? (Im huffing that copium hard)
If they fumble zagreusā presence in this game Iāll be so mad
bro I remember hera x heph duo... attacks and specials deal more damage while not empowered by boons. as a duo boon....
blood was too hard to see lmao
dw they confirmed playable zag (no they didnt)
my insane pipe dream is that we get to rescue zag and then can play as him XD
plasma is too hard to see!
I think at best Zag may be a summon/hex enhancement
It'd be cool to have Mel shout "ZAGREUS!/BROTHER!" And get him as a cut in
and do I recall correctly or aphro x hestia duo used to be something like hot flesh? we would get more shades around the map
No playable Zag, no Zag boss, it's Melis game, he can be a recurring NPC at most.
1.0 tomorrow, woohoo! š„³
my guess is that zag will be a crossroads npc
Well yeah naturally
Yeah id say NPC is most likely
I just hope he gets a cool keepsake
zag as a familiar?????????
as much as i love zag, i do not want zag to take away from melās spotlight
lmao
Zagreus found dead in Miami
Do we get to give him treats?
Playable Cerb confirmed
They better let me pet cerby
i kinda dont want zag to steal mel's time to shine honestly. girl has been training all her life... let her get her vengeance
Like screw zagreus chronos can keep him if I cant pet the puppy in 1.0 I dont know if my 279 hours have been worth it
... and then after Meli saved Zag, he became the protag of the story, defeating typhon and chronos in the same night, and saving the house of hades and olympus in one fell swoop!
Like we can't have Zag go try to beat up Chronos like Mel, as he's not a witch, he can't make himself immune to time freeze. So to see him in the field I imagine he'd need to be in a support role and that's about it
He also cant be on the surface
he can if he believes
Cerb will allow us to pet him once hades and zag are safe and not a second before
poor persephone this woman isn't allowed to have kids and enjoy her motherhood
Motherhood denied
hades 3 will have playable persephone going sicko mode
I hope if we get anything out of zag its a keepsake like the one hades gives to zag at the end of 1
I can see Mel being able to use the same incantation she used on herself to give Zag some extra time as well, but neither of them can say indefinitely so I don't think it'd be much of an issue storywise
Zagreus going to Olympus via Mel Incantation canon
imagine zag being grounded in his bedroom all this time
zag and chronos have actually been hanging out and having tea while waiting for mel to show up
As soon as Zag is able to go the Surface, he'll rise to Olympus and challenge Dyo to a drinking contest. And just stay there forever
And then canonically getting absolutely bodyslammed by Typhon every time, but damn if the boy won't keep trying.
It just occured me the idea that Zag tries to help by going the opposite route of Mel every night and every time he just gets mollywhopped and sulks a bit, that'd be funny af
I hope we'll get ingame models for the other gods too! So far we've got Zeus, athenas, hermes, dyo...
dont forget hera too
in one of the behind the scenes it showed them working on an ingame hera model
does she have an ingame model? i dont remember that
Personally I'm hoping every boon giver makes an in-game appearance by the end at some point. It was such a let down that we got a static image in the H1 epilogue
Oh, by the way, speaking of gods and routes.
Is there an incantation to have pools of purging on the surface? There's a conspicuous empty spot in the Olympus area transition that I never figured out how to fill
It would be cool if they show up in person from time to time. Like if a legendary boon is offered then have them show up instead of being the glowy symbol thing
I wish our most-damaging god would appear replacing ||Zeus|| from time to time at the ||Typhon|| fight
not yet, maybe 1.0?
I would be kind of cool if it wasn't the same every time. An interesting idea!
Yknow there's only one issue with this game and its the lack of gambling. Frankly we need an underworld casino run by charon
Hestia coming down with a Tommy gun and blasting Typhon full of red hot lead would be absolute cinema
||Heph would just come, bonk Typhon with his hammer, tell him to get lost, and then f off lmao||
you knowwwwwww
if zag is the god of blood. what if it requires something from him to make purging pools on the surface?
can you imagine our badass demeter raining down at ||typhon||? WITHER AND DIE
isn't zag the god of public safety in the underworld
Oh that's a cool little idea. Either him or Hades
Zag's the patron god of Osha ā ļø
||OI, typhon! see ya! BONK||
naw that's just like, his job š
yeah that's how gods work
Technically it's something like "security advisor" I think
That's his job description only, he's the god of blood otherwise. Which would make for great dialogue.
"Hello, wretches. Usual inspection, trying to escape my father's domain, you know how it is. I need to see your blood for safety reasons."
"But...We need our blood"
"So do I. For safety reasons. Shall we?"
Chief White Hat
Mel: ZAGREUS CREASE THEIR JORDANS
OK OK BUT WHAT ABOUT... Hypnos? If the datamining is right, ||for sure he's involved in what's about to happen, right?||
I wonder if it's canon that Zag got that post-game high rank in he House. He'd be an Unseen One then, right?
Chat, what are we feeling as the starting god with Twin Flames ? I dunno what to choose
which aspect?
Zeus torches is always fun, get static shock and go brrrrrrrr
we know what time the update is tommorow ?
is it mels aspect? if so, just go poseidon + hera + ripple effect
Prolly Meli, not a big fan of the rest
Given Mel's status in myth as ||The Goddess of Nightmares|| id say hes definitely playing a role
Nice laid back uncle it is ! Thank you :)
she has to live up to that title, right?
Late on the convo but tbh I don't think Supergiant would throw Meli under the bus by having Zagreus take over the narrative, as that would just be bad storytelling. Even if at most, we can somehow play him somewhere, or have him as a support, Melinoƫ is the protagonist. Zagreus had his time, it's hers now.
split the screen and suddenly make it multiplayer
so she's likely ||trapping chronos in his nightmares forever and torturing every now and then, right? imagine being sealed in your worst nightmares.|| what a vengeance
can't wait for Hades II to come and win everything
If only there was some game where I could play as zagreus... they should really make something like that 5 years ago
Is that a JOJO REFERENCE ?!?!??!!
I think that is a good rationale for why the game continues after you finish the story
Like 12:30 est
(I'm sorry)
Also, I was about to go for waves on attack, but Poseidon didn't offer it to me on pickup, and rerolling gave me Epic Unburied Treasure... Heroic amount of ressources here we go
ah so about 5 here then
GRANDDAUGHTERRRRR š«
Showing displeasure I believe there were also others, lilac for one, but spamming daily on the feedback channel that was mostly pronto
i havent played since the firstmonth of EA. is it worth rstarting a new file or jsut continue? i have beaten the last boss a whopping total of 0 times btw
Based on some footage it seems they removed the water spouts for UR Scylla
what do we think the chance is the reveal after we get the ending is we get to play as zag? ik people was talking about that last year maybe beiing a potentual thing
I'd rather die. why would you want to play as Zag this is Mel's game. go back to h1
i still think we are gonna fight zagreus
well that or a victory lap thing
God please no
Definitely restart if you made more than a couple runs. Crafting and everything changed significantly.
If you haven't done very much and you haven't played in a long time, maybe a new file makes sense. I have done too much stuff for me to want to start over... unless they add a difficulty you have to toggle when you start a new save like with hades
Honestly, it seems that you weren't far enough in terms of progression, so I'd say restart and enjoy the early with the new additions
Those were nasty... It is sad they removed them. Making them a little more dynamic would have been better.
they should do it super smash bros style, and let me play as red from transistor as well
maybe so but u cant tell me being able to play as both characters with both there map layouts wouldnt be fun
thx gang
there can be a mod for that. i don't want it in the base game. i'm so sick of people fawning over zag
The water spouts are just terribly annoying during UR Scylla.
CHAT TOMORROWWWW IT'S TOMORROWWš š š š
and sorry to say but zag is still the better character
Most realistic idea, but I don't think it will happen
I mean, it wouldn't be fun because all the systems are designed around Melinoe so unless they basically remake the game ground up for him then, no, it'd be awful.
Yeah how cool would it be if they pulled the same thing Monster Train 2 did (if you know you know)
I think Zag is gonna be the final boss, he did this to test the security of olympus
Maybe for a third game... but why the fk in this one?
me when zag double dashes
he atelast needs to make a apperance
As always. King
ah, sibling bonding
[cut to them fighting eachother]
it's like devil may cry
siblings be fighting
Well the alternative is worse
If we do fight him it might be like the fates manipulating him on command of chronos
Deserved
he did already, that's more than enough screentime
what a better way to get to know your long lost brother by beating him into a pulp
Devil may cry three! GOLD
Okay genuinely though why are so many people against the idea of him being there nearly at all
I mean, she already does that with the family pup though.
Annoying the creators whining loudly to make them change the game?
Hmmm... Not really.
only because Cerberus has the zoomies and needs to be put down for his nap
I don't mind him being a recurring NPC, I just don't want him playable or as a boss.
Not against him being in the game. But against him being a playable character.
you should nerf rivals scylla
Mate what do you think feedback is for
hades 3: zag's awakening
some people seam to think mell is better. where i dissagree and think zag is a lil better i like both characters so i wouldnt be against either of them being the main. i just dont see why having him as a optonal character even if he only has 1 weapon and super would still be a nice addition
...also why does it feel like this comes up whenever the protagonist is a fem char... side-eyes Witcher 4
I don't have issues with rival scylla, I always have much harder time with rival Cerberus
why can't I play as roach
As long as he's there I'm happy lol npc, playable, WHATEVER JSUT LET ME SEE MY SONNN
that case is specially funny considering said character was already playable in TW3 and a protagonist in the books
persephone would like to have a word with you
And let him bond with his sister
Are we equating leaving a message with whatever you think to reposting basically the same message everyday?
She's too powerful, the game would've been a point & click
At the end of the day people just hate anything with a female lead, straight up saw people in the live chat saying the game is woke because woman playable
I shall tell her I'm but a matchmaker for him Than and Meg
I think it comes up when there's an established beloved character that isn't the protagonist anymore. Don't see what it has to do with female characters
If you're thinking that hard, yeah. If the UR Scylla thing was so significant to be brought up so often then it should be brought up so often
its not that a femial cahrtacter is bad far from it i like mel i just think it would make for a nice unlock having playable zag even if its not 100% as playable as the first game like idk have him as a ultimate trinkitet where u can turn into him for a few seconds or something.
wait does ciri ride a roach too or does she call hers another name
i prob already pissed them off with my feedbacks lmao
Fun fact, stories progress! This typically means that characters, even the main one, will change. Hope this helps!
Do you think they made the feedback channel for giggles
honestly yes
It's because the people who say these things often don't care about the protagonist of the new game because it's a woman. It's not just "oh, I just prefer the original one better" it's often "I prefer the original one because I can relate to him more, as a man. Women are just so unrelatable"
Maybe Zag can show up in place of Nemesis sometimes
I don't understand this message
Opinions of people like this shouldn't be listened to, and it is my personal belief that any form of interaction with such characters is not worth it.
I never see it with male lead games that had a previously established female lead. Not once. But Witcher 4 and now in here... shrug
I can't even think of a single series that would satisfy that too.
Besides the point. Mel and ciri are worthy characters to continue the series. But that won't stop people from wanting to see more of their old favorites
are there games that go from female lead to male lead? can't rly think of any atm
Are you one of those people that spams on streams till the creator acknowledges you?
unfortunately people are a bit too attached to the past and don't wanna see a series progress
This is different because the feedback channel exists for people to spam the creators? They invited feedback, they want These reactions
Hmm people seam to be being a bit toxic in here rn so ill try again later. always seams to happen just before a update goes live
Fair fair, I suppose even god of war gets complaints from the same crowd when its literally the same character though so yknow, things happen
Cool question... The only thing I have in mind is doctor fourteen to doctor fifteen but that doesn't really count
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=0VLX6dyBdWU&feature=shared not blaring this song when I come home for Hades 2 tomorrow
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I mean, it works for those two because all of those characters are good. It doesn't work when it's just for the hell of it. Just have to look at all those Hollywood fem swapped flops
what?
Fair, I suppose Final Fantasy could kind of fall into that category.
wait does Nier A count? sorta?
yeah but final fantasy is more of an anthology which never stuck to a protag
"just for the hell of it" i hate to break it to you but people are also women irl just for the hell of it
Why are we having steam community slop debate in here
Like which?
Nuh-uh, women aren't real
I think FF6 was the first game to have female leads? and even then it was more of an ensemble cast
Both Mel and Zag are awesome can't we agree on that
kinda but it switches back to a woman in route C
i want this game to first and foremost be about melinoĆ«. but her family isnāt a point that can really be ignored, and zag is her brother. heās one of the people sheās getting vengeance for. not having him at all would be strange to me
FF XIII my beloved
i think zag having an appearance would be nice and tie up the story, i dont see a good reason for him to be playable
oh playable??? absolutely not lol
I want Zag too, I suspect we'll meet him after defeating Chronos in one way or another.
people who want playable zag should just play hades 1
end of the day, there are legitimate reasons one could prefer Zag to Mel, and there are also sexist reasons. You can't automatically label it sexist unless people aren't even willing to give Mel a chance or there is a pattern of similar behavior.
Ocean's 8, that Ghostbusters reboot. Abysmal movies, no thought was given apart from "girl powah!". Terrible uninteresting characters all around
The initial stake of this convo was having the finale of Hades II playing Zagreus
I don't think he'd work as playable in Hades II
But I don't see how Hades 2 even needs more playable chars. Hades 1 didn't have.
oh ew why??????
why bother having him playable if we already had a whole game all about him. it doesn't make any sense at all
I mean I said it as a joke lol
theres something to be said about tokenism in representation but its also fine for characters to just be anyone
Oh, fair. No interest in either series so I forgot they existed xD
I don't want playable Zag, but I do want Zag to be the final secret familiar and feed him scooby snacks to upgrade him
I think zag having a fun cameo would be sufficient
TLOU, dishonored (from corvo to corvo and emily then billie lurnk).. MB it was female to male.
Zag should be a keepsake
I should be able to equip zag
we should be able to feed zag a satyr sack
I never viewed spamming of any kind in any positive light and to me the sentence "invite spamming" makes little to no sense. I understand that they invite feedback, but having a bot repeating the same message over and over just clutters the chat and nothing else.
Maybe it is one of those things I just cannot get.
yeah, DYNO
Yknow what i know about women? Theyre pretty, i enjoy kissing them. Now anyways Zag and Mel are both fire characters and disagreeing means youre wrong and probably silly, I will not be agreeing to disagree.
I want to be able to throw a bunch of nectar at him AND GO FISHING TOGETHER
i think being too enthusiastic and annoying isnt grounds enough for a ban if thats the claim thats levied
I'm afraid humor was lost through the text, especially since the topic grew around it.
But it reassures me that it wasn't a serious take
but also its a public discord server at the end of the day so they can do whatever moderation they want
also playable zag has been a meme since EA launch
Being annoying, repetitively, brings bad vibes to the server, and to foster a good mood, I'd totally see it as reasons for removal
I think one reason it could be neat is so that we can combine hades 2 boons with hades 1 weapons for instance. It would allow more variety. but they can't just take the old weapons as-is and port them over because they would need omega effects among other things. But, most of the work is there already.
shrug i suppose
I mean, you may have meant it as a joke, but some folks probably were serious about it. xD
I want zag and than to come back so they can kiss
No because Nier replicant comes first, then we have nier automata. Also maybe the time skip makes it impossible to want the other character?š¤
Yes, yes I agree I hope they are together as npcs
Most of the work's here ? All of Zag's weapon don't have any design for omoves
I hope we get a 3rd game. Where maybe we can pick who to play.
Than, Meg and Zag together and they kiss in the crossroads
I hope they do another, more unique genre next time
Cant wait for Had3s
You take that BACK!
Yeah he can't omega but he got DOUBLE DASH BABY
I kinda feel roguelike fatigue after like, 8 years of their golden age
strand like š„ kojima comes on board
I hope they just move on from Hades now. I think the story will be over after Hades 2, if it so happens as the dataming showed us.
...Honestly I just already know I'll dislike being through Hades 2. xD
Hades 1: multiple queer and pan characters š . Hades 2: A WOMAN? Now they've gone too far! š </s>
the whole polycule just splashing in the hot spring every so often giggling
Perfect Hellenic representation!
Can't wait for whatever project comes next though.
I hope that whatever comes next, they'll be proud of their project and happy to work on it. Seriously, dev's happiness and wellbeing goes a hella long way for the final product
its problematic to have women in video games because it reinforces gender stereotypes; the only true representation is gender abolition
I hope they get hella paid so they can afford to live in san francisco
all characters are enby now
Damn, Face wishing hell on people
their office is in SF though
Its problematic to have games in games because they reinforce game stereotypes, the ony solution is unlimited games but no games
All characters should be featureless blobs with no identifying characteristics
hades 3 will have a genderless shade as a playable character just wandering through tartarus
like silksong from hornet knight
nono, hell is in michigan
they asked us not to discuss datamining on here btw (just saying since this is the second message you wrote mentioning it)
Hades 2 is launching soon
No no, i live in ohio and can confirm, hell is here
But then...how will I, a woman, respectfully admire the way other women look...
what if the shade was a witch in elysium looking for her lost cat
oh thanks, wasnt aware of that. I'll keep in mind :)
The only real way to enjoy games is to see them only in your mind's eye, through the platonic ideals of both perfect representation and exciting gameplay, everything else is just lazy tbqh
Can't wait to see endings
also as an ohioanā¦ā¦ yeah thatās true
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Soooooooooon
I'm not an American, but I've heard people describe New Jersey as hell a lot
nono hades 3 will be a tower defense game of hadesā perspective from game 1, trying to stop zag from reaching the surface
...damn I told myself not to get too hyped up. Now I can't wait the 22 hours xD
The only place im good at mortal kombat
dungeon keeper spiritual successor? please?
finally, sgg will make the true "spiritual successor" of disco elysium
Oh gods... been a while since I thought of that.
Since donkey kong now has a rougelike mode, full 3d collectathon platformer for hades 3
a roguelike tower defense game like... the tower?
š š
Something something Hades 3 is just an endless loop of Hades doing menial paperwork, the entire game is 2 screens and about 10 voice lines, with he entire gameplay being "Hold to sign"
It'll be cinema
sgg could make a fire rpg
the defeat screen would be there should be NO escape
@meager garden so the only example I found is a spin off of horizon zero dawn called "call of the mountain"
Apparently there are other games that tried it but most of them changed their plans in production or just straight up cancelled the game
Finally, playable hades
give us a game in which we play as hypnos and should trick hades into thinking we're actually doing our work...
Actually there is one. Do you want me to find the name?
sgg should make a 4x game next
Yknow so many game titles are just
Video game: [Verb] of the [Noun]
Hades 3: return of the greatshields
In this light i petition to rename hades to Hades: Divination of the Dash
i heard they nerfed torch special
I think itās silly to frame putting feedback in the feedback channel as āwhining to make them change the gameā
aren't most video game titles just: [Noun]
ig torch scorch spec meta reigns supreme now i can ignore the aspect even more
im gonna kms
I didn't say that.
I said spamming the same message everyday till you see the change you want is bad.
I played 15 hours already and only killed chronos once, with alot of stuff still locked but having done a fair bit, when v1.0 releases should I keep going or do I restart?
in hades 3 we should play as a suspiciously spartan-shaped demigod with red mark and pale skin, and instead of getting boons from the olympians we will be fighting them
Boy have I got a series for you
well indie games tend to be named in 2 ways: "the x (of) y" or "x"
so "the binding of isaac" is an example of the former and "delatrune" is an example of the latter
keep going prolly
Nah, keep going.
fr lmao, got target nerfed like momus
I didnāt even see it that much lol most of the repeat messages I saw from him were about unseen
The update?
now if they fix poseidon icd on torch spec i'll be fine actually
No the arcana card
nerf unseen
Pronto really doesnāt like the unseen arcana card
Begging supergiant to please make other options actually stronger instead of just nerfing all the fun stuff
too bad, 3 more strength nerfs
Is the poseidon icd even that slow that it affects torch special
Truly... Too powerful
yes, esp with hidden helix
actually no, they should nerf DDs to equal strength's level of power now
I reaaaalllly donāt think the poseidon icd is an issue on anything but pan i think people really overexaggerate it
BRB changing my handle to "The post-nerf Unseen Arcana"
Being 50% 50% strength back!
yeah they should buff the poseidon ICD by making it bigger
I donāt know the numbers though
Strength is fine but I wish there were boons for it
strength needs more npc gifts fr
There are like 10 death defiance related boons it wouldnāt kill them to have 2 or 3 that buff strength
Wait what is the perks of || vow of rivals || (put spoiler tag since new players are here for 1.0)
Hey guys, do you know if the game will have new content with the v1.0 version ? Or it's gonna be the same as the current content ?
They're alternate boss fights
remix fights
They should at the very least disable path of stars nodes that are DD related if youāre not using it
free fear level
idk they said it's just story stuff
Ok thanks
"Free" fear once you've learned the new fights, at least
An easier eris fight as well
I hope they change rivals Eris to not spend half the fight being invulnerable
i feedbacked that at some point, hopefully it does get checked
Same but Hecate
Ehhh hecate is only in between phases
eris is a dps burst check i think eris is fine, it's hecate that's ass
rivals eris kinda underwhelming
Eris is so hard to speed kill because sheās just off screen most of the time
Guys you dont understand, if the boss isnt invulnerable for most of the battle they cant hit you with random frame precise moves
No, she isn't. Wolf Howl makes her invuln, and she teleports a lot more in the Rivals fight
o yea rival eris needs a powerup
I respected so much people who run extreme measures as a standard heat as I could had never. Now I cannot go without vow of rivals. So cool and fun
Teleportation isnāt invulnerability
i only ran em3 cuz it made theseus easier
EM is like required reading past a certain point in H1 imo
I only ever really ran em2 in hades 1
Did it actually?š®
Em Champions scared me a lot
I ran EM4 because music
Ok ty, will pass till next content update then š
He doesn't have a shield until 25% HP, when he transitions to his Call phase
yea, super easy to cheese p2 phase and em theseus can't block in p1 like he can in normal
Yeah but I am not a pro player. I am casualš I cheesed 16 fear
there probably will not be a content update after 1.0
this is it
em theseus is definitely nice but asterius is scary, still nearly always worth using
Oh!!!!!! That is why it felt so much nicer!
Hopefully thereās still a handful of balance patches, at least in cases of something being really bad or way too strong
However, in exchange, you got Super Saiyan Asterius
Makes so much sense. Good design
Nothing rn is too strong I donāt think to the point of needing a nerf
his charge attack is horrifying on forced overtime 2
Besides the Medea lightning ring bug but thatās cause itās a bug
The one where he becomes a buzzsaw?
They could probably still do some work on Heph but that's about it.
Which is exactly why 14 boons will be reworked or removed entirely (no one asked for this but they did it anyways) /j
the one where he runs at you and you have to make him hit the wall
Nah, Ares desperately needs love
If asterius was in hades 2 he would just be normal zone 3 enemy
asterius is in hades 2
the buzzsaw attack is also scary
Oh, right. He can turn on a dime in EM3
When
speaking of bugs, has anyone else had a problem with the dora incantation disappearing from the cauldron? I hope it's fixed in 1.0 but yeah
he's basically UR prom
Champions Arcana :3
True
i wish the timer didn't ran in-between fights, i skipped so many seeds and fish ponds it hurts my things-always-collecting soul so much
They can work on hephaestus, Ares gets plenty of love from hephs wife as it is
I heard of this bug as well, hopefully fixed
Oh man only one more day until we find out what the contest of champions is ššš I am sooo curious
it pauses while fishing though
running to fishing costs me 1 second though that's a time loss :((((
While true, Ares's base kit has gotten nothing but nerfs to the point where he feels like the only thing he has going for him is Grievous Blow
contest of champions was fake the whole time!
yeah, i just feel so rushed and sometimes the fish is too far away from the exit, even if its just 2 seconds worth
wonder if they fixed timer ticking between chronos p2 and p3
Probably inside Hypnos
Totally agree, the gap between his introduction power and his power now is truly sad
After reviewing some reconstruction, I too, can attest that Asterion is inside Hypnos
That sounds wrong
I hate my own phrasing
you guys starting a new save for tomorrow or keep to the early acc save?
Hypnos wakes up and says "You know Mel, I know I'm free from the curse but my mind feels weird, like there's a Friend Inside Me!"/j
i read it as Astarion at first and was like 'wow weird ship'
Im gonna [LOSE MY MIND]
New save to experience 1.0 as intended.
Iv been sat here thinking about that but i dont think they gonna change the early game alot mainly its the endgame thats beeing added so idk might just carry on my current save rather than have to unlock everything again
Keep early access... I'm not a bad player anymore, but I am nowhere that good of a player to grind everything again
I'll prolly get a new save, do the story as intended, and then go back to my old, I'm at ~110 nights (with all trials)
"oh... Weird... I don't judge though... Very cool."
Starting a new save, my current one's kinda up a creek without a paddle
If we replace both horns of Asterius, is it still Theseus' ship ?
in this household we don't judge crackships
Yknow who i ship asterion with? Myself. I want that vampire more than I can legally express
Well, there was certainly a more clever way to tell the joke, but I failed
i'm too committed to the save file i have i think, it'd just be a lot of resource gathering mostly
Although that means I have to re-grind Psyche 
That vocabulary makes one think otherwise
Oh
Didn't think of this brutal reality
same idea here, kind of want to get all the dialog in the right places and stuff
Thing i dont like about having to start again is unlocking the heaven path. it was fine doing it once but was really annoying waiting for a single seed to drop
Yeah, I'd only expect numerical changes from this point onwards
the resourse gonna suck a bit on a new save, true
supergiant doesn't do foreverdev games like terraria or stardew does
Especially Grasp
should i provide my proud jack frost/elza frozen badge?
Heaven Path, Eris Curse, Fate Curse... Some roadblocks feel artificial and forced tbh
hee ho
Wouldn't that be the most canon ship possible?š
Stardew's dev is a powerhouse tho, an anomaly that shouldn't count when it comes to statistics.
The guy does everything, including the damn wiki
Nahobiho
other issue is i think i could probs beat a run in less than 5 runs now cus of how much iv played. kinda the issue with even replaying hades 1 once u got good at it cus the hole story of trying and failing to reach the end is alot shorter
I did this, but on my actual save file. Night 5 was Chronos' defeat
Hades 3 but its two seperate games focused on collecting underworld monsters that you have to connect to trade
I still don't like eris's curse
i have beaten hades in 1 run on hades 1 before. feels dirty though to do
This is Nintendo, surrender your knees, now
yeah.. easy to forget that damn grind when im 250h in now haha
Ah dang I knew buying that copy of pokemon water red would come back to haunt me
i like the hole losing and slowly making progress over many runs. like i remember when i finaly did beat him was also the same run where orpheus started singing. kinda dont get that happening if u can beat the game in less than 30 runs
hades 3 but u r planting seeds, rizzing local nyx-born bachelors and bachelorettes and mining in the caves while fighting mobs in there- wait a minute...
Hades 3 but you have to invade other people's dreams to infiltrate their Palace to steal a treasure, and you can summon underworld monsters to fight for you and there's a cat mascot character
HK ripoff
Also, winning too early on Hades I makes it weird from a story standpoint because you met Persephone before the flashback/dream of the reveal that Nyx ain't Zag's mother
legit hades 3 should be a coop game where u play as both zag and mel. and before anyone says "it wont work" theres legit a game out rn that is litraly hades but coop so i could se it working. just dont know how the story would go
Hades 3 but mel is accompanied by a talking dog and duck and has to defeat a heartless army while learning the value of friendship
hades 3 but itās just hades 2 with horse armor that costs 3.99$ 
hades 3 should be a game that doesn't exist imo
I mean like if the devs wanna make another im not gonna complain
But overall I hope they find inspiration with new projects, id hate to see a team that cares so much about their games get pidgeonholed as just "the hades studio"
They need a tv series at the very least
This is probably asked to death but do we have to restart a save for achievements or will they Auto sync when 1.0 comes out?
no they don't
you get most of them insta if you have a save
i reemmber even back with hades 1 people was asking for a animea. like the characters are soo good its a shame that we might not see them again after this
At what point? I just booted back up and didnāt unlock any even though Iāve done most of them it seems
To be fair, we dont know how long the end of the story of hades 2 is, at the end of hades 1 there was still the mission to get all the Olympians to get along, we still have at least 3 plot points to wrap up
It's because the game's not out yet š you won't get achievements until 1.0 drops
The game comes out in 21 hours and 10 minutes
1.0 isn't out yet
you never know, they could always take a break and make another game before going back to this world
Got it that makes sense, saw the achievements listed and got excited
Id be fine with that i just dont want to compelatly see the end of this world.
We will have to kill all the gods one by one after the surface boss
Lowkey if they do i hope they do something similar to the percy jackson stories post book 5 where we see the roman incarnations of the gods and how their powers/roles change
Wow... That does make those books sound exiting!:o
Like theres soo much in the heades world that could be expanded upon to be its own story. really hope they do more with it after they compelatly done with this.
hot take: is the hades world even that interesting though?
greek myth really is everywhere
I mean, yes and no
Damned netflix even cancelled Kaos...š
put it this way i didnt care this much when god of war was coming out back in the day. still like that world but not as interested as this one
Itās not lol. H1 was carried by Zagās excellent characterization but everything else was not super groundbreaking
some characters are pretty cool and not seen that often
and some characters show up literally every time greek myth is brought up
It doesn't even need to be groundbreaking, but it wasn't even that deep. The cool part was that we got narrative an roguelite! Remove one element and it becomes boring...
yea and hermes was a joke in god of war
I'd say that the underworld was a good canvas enough for them to already have pre-characterized npcs, but still having some leeway due to the mythology writings being inconsistent and unreliable at times
Reason for which they picked Zag and Mel as protagonists
it's funny because I like Hades 1 for its narrative and Hades 2 for its roguelite, and I don't really care for the other part in both games
well at least for hades 2 the story isnāt completely out yet
And I guess that if people wants Hades 3 now, it's not really about the mythology itself, but because they've grown attached to the characters and sgg's depiction of them, and can't let go
I like hades 2 because it let's me be a successful lesbian instead of a single one
weāve just gotten like side quests so far for the story lol
Im not sure cus i think the end gole in 2 is something im more wanting to see out than in hades 1 that was more just hey lets spend the day with mum
yeah but I have lowkey low to mid hopes for 1.0 story
it is one of my favorite versions of the mythology, despite not being that deep, i really liked their characters and dynamics
No spoilers sadber Ry
How do you even quantify that
Your choices for greek myth things are this god of war and disneys herculies. now each has its own pros and cons but only hades has characters id want to see more of "well apart from hades in herculies"
Does it count if I am sharing the judgement of a review?š®
i had a thought that we could play as a human in h3 thats trying to save someone from the underworld or something like that, kinda switching sides against olympians. either that or hades 3 could be a prequel for one of the characters
Epic? Homer's epics? Percy Jackson?
Ok sorry
i might be glazing here, but i liked this game more than alot of the books i read š , like percy jackson, song of achilles, circe, piranese, blood of troy and so on
Well there's your problem you read song of achilles
all of witch are noowhere near as known as the ones i mentioned
Madeline Millerās books I do not like them. Percy Jackson I found hard to revisit because itās a childrenās book
lol are you serious
that's a you problem at this point lol
i wasnt a fan of it but i heard alot of people talking about it
And that's perfectly fine
At the end, matters of tastes are personal, and you shouldn't enjoy or not some stuff based on other's arguments
Percy Jackson and Homerās epics are far more consumed than GoW
Dawg what, HOMERS EPICS ARE LIKE SOME OF THE MSOT READ STORIES ON EARTH???? THEYRE UP THERE WITH LIKE, THE BIBLE
Dude wtf...
Homer's epics are nowhere as known as God Of War ? Please say sike
I had to read the odyssey in high school
there was no god of war class in high school
Oh I am still reading Circe! It feels very nice!
Thatās cool!
my 11th grade English class covered Kratos journey extensively!
The city of Odessa in russia was named as such because Catherine the great was in love with Greek mythology, but please tell me how the game where an ashy white man kills the gods is more culturally impactful than the odyssey
Homer has been read for 3000 years... Sounds like a winner.
from god of war?
that's actually really cool
That feels like bad oversight by the ministry of education
can't argue with that
Odyssey even got to be a word in the english language, but I do not see "to kratos" in the list of irregular verbs I had to learn when I was 12
We can try š¤
yeah but you know the words "God", "of", and "War" right?
where do you think those words came from?
My first college essay was an in depth breakdown of batman and how morality is subjective. The education system is a really, really funny joke
batman is a really good character tho
From my pocket.
The left one.
They fell out, give them back please.
God of War should be required āreadingā for every student
Amongst the Hellenistic donations to the English language, and a lot of other languages, we also have tantalising, Sisyphean, Herculean... Hmmmmm
legit it should be. probs lost of peoples introduction to greek myth tbh
even assasisns creed as in the original ones is a good way to get into parts of history
I wish to choose to ignore what the reality is, and that shawbag's trolling.
Well, there is a point to be made about the fact that culture didn't only happen in the past and it is still happening today in a lot of new types of media, but yeah, US education is interesting.
we get it u a nerd and perfer books to games its fine š
That's totally what I said, yes, absolutely.
I learned about war from cod 3 so I guess I can't argue too much
A point I made! Lots of bats stories are products of their time, and just like society he has changed
hades 2 should be a book instead of a boring game š„±
regardless of your opinon kratos is still a more memeraable charactrer than anything in your nerd books so there
I only played the third and it was a funny hack and slash. I have the new one installed but I am scared cause everyone told me that the boy just ruins every puzzle
Opinion*
correction the right opinion š
They actually added a setting to make him shut up with the puzzle hints
ragebait used to be believable
Imma retire to my man cave and play some more, I don't have enough energy to deal with that. Please don't get a job in education.
You make it hard to make us fantasise on the idea that you are trolling
and this server use to not be filled with toxic argumentative people but there u go
They should add a setting that reminds you to touch some grass sometimes apparently
I going to teach a course for pre-k about cod mw2
Did you also mention how the reason we have the batman we have today is because of Tim Burton?
even without atreus, the game's puzzles are atrocious, unless you specifically like annoying puzzles that take like 50% of the entire game
OH MY GODS THAT IS PURE GENIUS
chat is god of war more or less well known than the odyssey/the illiad
I actually don't know
Somewhat, because the batman we have today is also just as much a result of the dark knight movies
š š š
You mean the spoilering brat was a necessity?š
the puzzles are fine honestly the Greek games had way worse puzzles
how many hours to the release
idk
Yes, but those movies have been possible only because of Tim Burton. Before that we had the "nananananananaBATMAN!" stuff
eh i wouldnt say hes a necessity but it def helps if you get annoyed with the puzzles
Well let's put it this way, my mother knows who odysseus is, all she knows about Kratos is that I occasionally scream "ZEUSSSSSS" for no apparent reason
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No, because the puzzles are generally easy enough that the boy, or Mimir, or the other party members don't need to butt in after 5 seconds
yes but does she know what the odyssey is
Well, amongst people with no education probably... š
Yes
thanks mate
ok good
Oh... Boring... Sad... Sigh
i think it purely depends on the generation, and among young people, i do think kratos is more well-known maybe? but for older people no
around the world homers works are more popular but in america i think its gow
how many hours till the update ?
9 appearently
In fact I cant imagine many americans who grew up around the same time I did dont know of the odyssey, many schools require ot as a part of English 1 or 2 in HS
did people in the 90s or so learn about greek myth in class or pop culture
we had some stuff like clash of the titans
21
21 ? thats tomorrow at 6 ?
Actually it might be noon EST tomorrow. I thought it was midnight. Announcement page has times.
Truth be told I also sometimes scream "ZEEEEUUUUUSSSSSS" sometimes when I hurt my pinkie toe... And so does Typhon.
oh ok
yeah in my freshman year humanities class we were required to read the odyssey
I didnt even learn who homer was until i played hades 2 and i did greek myth in school. its just not as talked about
when was that though?
I'm curious to know if it was part of the curriculum a few decades ago
Dawg are you sure you didnt just like, not pay attention?
What horrible school have you went to?
why so late bro
im only 24š
so I guess a decade ago?
Thats like saying its bad if it didnt talk about norse myth witch is even less talked about than greek
despite norse mythology being better ye
bruh we're the same age I'm tryna find some proper millenials
Same here, had to write a paper about why odysseus killing astnyax was or wasnt a good decision (wild topic ngl)
oh mb i didnāt see that context
the amount of people that iv spoken to that have either had thor or the new god of wars as there first time knowing about the 9 relms or viking myth is insane
But we have so much less literature because of Christianity, but we have two books because of funny politicians writing fanfic of the gods with themselves in them
yeah its sad man
i really like the characters in norse mythology way more than greek, especially loki lmfao
chat how many people do you guys think learned about Thor for the first time through the MCU
According to my mother and uncle (in their mid 30s) they both learned myths in school, usually prometheus, orpheus and the odyssey if not the whole Trojan war, which is about the same amount I learned in school
i do agree norse myth is more interesting than greek. i mean imagen if hades had the 9 relms to play with that would make for a interesting rouge like
that's pretty cool
doesnāt odysseus only kill astyanax in like one version? usually itās neoptolemus bc of achilles
Dude, having greek myth as a class in school is so not common, but if you have such a class and you have never heard of the Iliad or the odyssey there, that is like saying you have Bible class but don't who noah or jesus are.
(itās interesting that u read that specific version is what im saying lol)
im excited for the new odyssey movie man
ill tell u one thing i didnt have bible class i still know who jesus is
hoping it's peak
less than 24 hours gang, how we feeling
he's best known from a book that's younger than the odyssey, I'm pretty sure
i had greek class never once was homor or the iliad mentioned even once
excited!
Its a toss up, as with most things in myth we're relying on shaky sourcing, but yes we read a version where specifically ody kills the kid
oh nice we successfully campaigned for a slow mode partial reversion, good work team
dyno strikes again
i had greek classes about a ton of stories and books, and my friend still dont know anything about greek mythology, i think the knowledge of class content purely depends on the student not the school
Forgot I cant say bad words here sorry dyno
we killed the moderators and amir offered us a reduced slowmode boon
Then you had a subpar teacher.
its simple that people learn more from media like games and films than school.
Murdered
I'm ready for the internet to collide into my body with Hades stuff
you... might be right at this point tbh
erm no. asking in a gaming server is gonna get you skewed results but I am pretty sure the general normie population does not know this video game
among my friends yeah, since we all play video games
"Been reading this here bible but whos this jesus fella they keep talkin about"
how many people know about pirates ? the reason for that is we have one of the most popular film series being all about them. now how many people know about vikings ill tell u its not as many we have thour yes but im genualy conviced some people dont even realise thats a viking thing
Usually yes, but you do hear so many horror stories about teachers that I am not sure anymore... Then if it is in the US where you don't even need a degree to teach it kinda starts to make sense
Judas seems like such a nice guy so far im going to read more tonight
Oh get ready for a suprise pal
but the general normie population probably doesn't know the greek stories either which makes me wonder
Yeah, but there's a reason education in a school is broad, so that you learn things you yourself wouldn't find easily without knowing they are there
I need some ambrosia
The education system sucks we alreayd know this. kids dont even get tought have to get a job or pay tax so yea of corse they not gonna learn about partrs of hystory
its highly dependent on region and schools. i am millennial age and we went through the odyssey in an eng lit class and even had a project over it, but not all schools cover it.
only the really known about ones
Have they said when unlock time is tomorrow? Was hoping to get a run or two in before work š
Mods do guys know if there is a media kit / press kit for Hades 2 ?
Oh yes conditional probability!
uhm I don't know but I can ask 
Thereās a map in announcements!
The one dude who gets to respawn.
dang how many hours are left for the release
please do :3
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My roommate and I are now talking about "hades, but it's about the bible" now, and I'm cackling
Hades monotheism challenge
Dude, you are just telling us you had a bad school or were a bad student... You will never carry your point across...
damn thats alot left
Itās about 20 hours and 37 minutes I believe?
u say us but from where im sitting its only u that think that
OMG, this is hilarious
Thats enough to listen to EPIC about 10 times over
i thought it would be 12am on thursday š
"Like what denomination we talkin here, like is this protestant, with the trinity, or like do we get Mary, is this catholic?"
u try asking people if they knew about homor or the iliad before hades came out and tell me how many there are the number will be less than the number that know about god of war
Not as common as u making out it is
https://www.supergiantgames.com/games/hades-ii right here, scroll down a bit!
Supergiant Games is a small independent game development studio in San Francisco, known for its award-winning titles Hades, Pyre, Transistor, and Bastion.
This is like 4d trolling it has to be
THANK YOU! ā¤ļø
yeah this is absolutely trolling lmao
you see, the real question is: how many young kids first knew the term āodysseyā because of super mario odyssey? im sure a substantial amount
Crist the dumb people in this server are giving me brain rot. think ill step away and just play the game trying to have a conversation around here with u dumb morons is impossable
I cannot bring myself to believe anything but a block of pure osmium could be this dense
People are just polite.
I got my kid nephew into Nintendo games because he did the 2 player mode with me one christmas, so I literally am related to one of these
*homer
*.
ok yall be nice or begone. it doesnt matter if you disagree with someone or think theyre trolling dont insult ppl
*Christ
#readme-first please and thank you.
(the iliad is actually only one l)
totally unnecessary...
wait wtf
goddamnit I've been wrong for the last... 8 years
"Disagreement" and its literally someone misspelling words while calling the rest of us stupid for pointing out a logical fact
Dont worry im done with this chat for now. people in here are just being toxic. cant even have a converstation without people think u trolling for daring to suggest that more people know about one of the most popular video games of all time more than a bit of greek myth that isnt as common
Everyone around me knows who homer is. We all studied him in school.
Even I as a bad student can say
"Narrami o Musa del pelide Achille che infiniti lutti addusse agli Achei, anzitempo all'orco..." Ach i cannot remember correctly the words of the first sentence.
People studied these things. Believe or not not everyone plays videogames
letās move on
lets move on indeed
If you say "kids" as in elementary or kindergarten, then I am not so sure..
I don't think it's outlandish to assume that an adult's curriculum could have dodged something like this, depending on where someone grew up. It's surpising, for sure, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility
kids as in people who owned nintendo consoles š
I mean majority of kids basis for Greek myth is like Rick Riordan and that's it 
Rich kidsš
Now I'm thinking about where I learned concepts for stuff lol
do you think zag owns nintendo consoles and shows them to mel
*raises hand* hi yes thatās me
ah h2 got a 10/10 from ign
(when i was a kid i started with percy jackson and then branched out)
yeah i did read percy jackson it was probably my start but also. greek myth is just very popular, on a surface level at least
Hades 3 but its just like, a concept yknow, like an idea? Avaliable exclusively on the back of your eyelids right now
Good, they should
naw he's more a playstation kinda guy
Zag plays NBA 2k and GTA and Need for Speed only
mel got the xbox gamepass
i love percy jackson so much. such a great series
they're not animal crossin... š
He one day will Google odyssey and learn of the story of Ulysses.
TBF, Chiron goes and taps the "read the Iliad" sign more than a few times, plus there's several references to both the Iliad and the Odyssey in Riordan's books
which god is a console elitist
actually my greek myth intro was probably... I have no idea I think I read percy jackson in middle school, but knew about the myth stuff before that?
than plays rocket league
Zag is the kind of brother to do the controller off trick but he gives the off controller to himself so baby Mel doesn't realize it's single player and she can still play
instead of the traditional roguelike it's like bloons tower defense played by persephone to keep her 3rd kid safe
Heph uses Linux
Than does the daily crossword and throws up if he takes too long
The worst book i read in school by far
LMAO
he was like... 5, my sister probably doesn't just let him go on the internet at that age...
Zag is a call of duty gamer, isn't he...
Dionysus only plays sports games, until he gets blackout drunk
Then he swaps over to the Sims
Yeah going deeper is hard... Learning ancient greek is not at all comparable to learning Latin...š¬ It's like learning Aussie and then reading shakespeare
or maybe Zag plays league
ares def only play CoD, athena has like 9000 hours into CK3 and is really into Macs, and since I hate Demeter she's a Nintendo apologist
Ares plays arma
But he only plays Black Ops 1-3 so he's okay
not like she likes Nintendo games, but she's a fan of Nintendo's legal team
Perks of being an immortal, I speak linear A /j
Zeus is a Minecraft streamer
Ares probably plays Battlefield, not CoD
ares plays war thunder. iykyk
no wait that's poseidon
this is how than starts, but then zag introduces him to rocket league and he gets hooked
(meg likes overcooked. not to play, but to watch zag and than act like idiots)
Linear algebra?š¤
He plays with the shapeshift mod 
Jokes on you that's like 100 years old at best.
Ares goes out of his way to get backblast kills with a rocket launcher, bonus points if he blows up a vehicle in the process
lmao he also does Mr.Beast stuff "I stuffed a hundred mortals into this sack of hellfire. Last one to survive gets to raise my kid"
Aphro plays boomer shooters like Quake and Doom and Unreal because she's based
Linear A iirc is the earliest written Greek language we have record of, dates back to before their dark age, likely to mycennae
Oh god... My childhood
i fully believe that he starts of only playing CoD, but then really gets into narrative games
I feel like mel would enjoy wolfenstein
Oh gods... Let me Google, I am learning stuff on the Hades server
orpheus gets really into guitar hero after da divorce
Isn't Linear A from Crete, and Linear B from Mycennae?
orpheus is a midwestern dad š
Also, he's not... gonna go down the rabbit hole of something other than Mario in that example...
good thing I'm just a poser that knows greek myth from homer's stuff and pop culture
"She took the songs Zag"
That might be, my memory is fuzzy and i may have consumed some holy moly
what video game would hades play
Yeah I mean... I know about Gilgamesh from Final Fantasy, not the Epic of Gilgamesh
Papers, please.
Hypnos plays hello kitty island adventure
I mentioned it earlier, but dungeon keeper
power wash simulator
same, but tbf it has to be somewhat authentic since it was passed down orally so it is the combined mythos changed and reflected over and over again
Candy crush
Hades plays umamusume
funny enough, the first time i heard of gilgamesh, it was in the anime fate
oh god no
Hades is already stressful enough i actually feel like he might like something like Nintendogs or Balatro
Spot on! Maybe calling it greek may be an exaggeration, but it is what they say and it is so cool
Persephone is a candy crush mom
I think there's a lot of examples out there of media that gets telephoned into a pretty messed up version of the source material
Omg what if he had a Nintendog names Cerberus
I think she would like stardew valley
Zag seems like he'd avidly play fortnite
Zag would be a fortnite gamer
I don't want to get noscoped by zagreus
he rotates between cod, fortnite, rust, and valorant
š yeah I know
that's hera lmao, ares was crying as a kid while she was getting a 20x combo in Candy Crush
(i am one of the few people who knows it from the epic, we also read that in my freshman year humanities class lol)
Honestly id buy a zagreus fortnite skin
Persephone is a Farmville mom
hypnos tries to get zag into league
valorant š¤¢
I will buy the arcana cards for no reason whatsoever...
Hera plays stellaris and total war
hypnos certainly doesnt play league
she already does farming as her job, why not something like Doom
Lies
Ah see I understand, hypnos likes leauge because he's a lazy piece of sh-
im down with everything but there is not a bead of sweat on hypnos's body\
Persephone would play animal crossing and DOOM
You see the vision
Mel would play fantasy life. Some farm sim game with really fleshed out combat
persephone is the embodiment of the isabelle+doom guy meme from 2020
I def think Hera is the boomer mom that hates video games because "they isolate the familial structure and express violent thoughts"
Either that, or just candy crush
OMG MATCHING COSTUMES FOR HADES AND PERSEPHONE WHERE THEY ARE DOOM GUY AND ISABELLE
Mel plays stardew but she thought she would like the dating and farming and stuff but she actually grew addicted to the combat and mines
holy s*** hades abs plays animal crossing
Meme? No no, theyre married this is canon
hades: i like this. cat. he has glasses.
his family: HOW DID YOU GET RAYMOND??
mel doesn't pick up a game in a long while (mainly becuz she's hyperfocused) but if she ever crashes out she'll put 1k hours into Baldur's Gate 3 or Persona trust
Mel minmaxes stardew valley
oh 100%
"Look children, he has eyes like yours"
she will absolutely divorce her partner character in order to get that special item or whatever
That exists? I would never dream of leaving emily...
Hades and Persephone are married in FF14
Hades does raiding while Persephone like to do chill crafting
ādad, i think they call that heterochromia.ā
āwhat do you mean, im fine with gay peopleā
Fun fact! I have central heterochromia (the color of certain areas of my eyes is different from the rest) and my friend once called it "centrist heterophobia"
"Dora, look at my farm where I've created a neverending generator of ancient fruit wine to sell on the 17th of the month, which lines in perfectly with my excel sheet for the fairy rose honey generator that i created on ginger island. Now onto the next phase"
this feels like something out of disco elysium
incredible
beautiful zag with homophobia ā¤ļø š
"Than, I'm not trying to become pushing buddies with you bro"
Bouldy keeping hades company is my favorite part of this game so far
bouldy is between a dog and a hard place
Bouldy is a hard place, hes a boulder
rock with a hard face
Its not just a boulder! It's iraq!
Frankly I must be honest, this game isnt pushing the gay agenda nearly enough, it needs at least 500% more lesbians
kinda surprised the wards vow icon isn't light blue
o wack
One more day
what would happen if zag took all of chronos's blood?
needs more gays
It's at 7 pm for me, i'll go crazyyy
Hades II (2025)
cuz titan blood makes his weapons stronger, so what if chronos got stabbed with his sword?
scylla & the sirens poly
He'd be a Crazin (cronos rasin)
there is no one that loves scylla like cylla can
odysseus,,
jetty and roxy sure
but scylla? ain't no way
scylla romance when
I'll probably wait for physical release
ur all ready romancing her, cuz she loves all her fans
just be careful when you lean in for a kiss
I remember seeing someone in the server one time saying they found Artemis hot and I wanted to reference Actaeon but everyone else beat me to it
idk what that is but sure!
hero that fell in love with artemis, proposed, artemis killed him
oh!
great!
āThe worst she can say is noā
oh not proposed accidentally peeked on artemis and died
his body was ripped apart by his own hounds
Thats one telling, the inciting incident has changed over time but generally its agreed he saw Artemis bathing and was turned into a deer (to keep him quiet) and devoured by his hunting dogs
being a greek hero really did suck ass
good thing greece isn't real
ahhh that one makes sense mb
I have bad news for you
I love how some Greek myths have morals like "sometimes even good people must break rules to help others" and others are like "you probably shouldnt look at artemis' booba"
I believe all greek myths have the moral: don't mess with gods
the greek gods lowkey are eldritch beings
no lowkey about it, highkey eldritch beings
Or, theyāre just people who were given an absurd amount of power and are now power tripping
āyou shouldnāt be rude to your hosts and pig out, lest circe turn you into a pigā
āyeah zeus turned into a swan to seduce someone, what of it?ā
dinosyus's presence can literally drive people insane, zeus literally controls the heavens
weren't they born with it though
Yeah
I will remind people, some people still worship these gods, myself included, so please keep in mind these arent exactly like, characters in the way we might think of batman or superman yknow
well when you do it it's bad, when zeus does it it's also bad but he has like the divine mandate of heaven so uhhh
hey wanted to ask if there is a release hour or like a countdown somewhere to know when 1.0 is releasing since im in europe
You and everyone else is so real for that
ooh really? interesting
thank youuu
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wait do london and paris have different time zones
The gods were not divinely ordained to commit acts like that, theyre depicted as such because their stories were told by people like you and me who had their own problems, Greek gods reflected what was true, not what we might consider "moral"
Same for Norse gods
the ones who were turned into bees by Hera had it pretty rough
I don't think there are people worshipping Slavic gods though
i mean thatās sort of a broad statement
Iām glad SGG uses the best timezone (PDT) as standard instead of so-called āglobalā time zones like GMT
well it's because they work there
Zorya, chernobog, belobog... Others I am not familiar with... What gods would you have in mind?
i mean my thought was like. idk donāt assume people donāt worship certain gods and such anymore