h2-discussion

[cerulean lake]

I had to stop balatro 3ds though because to fit on to a gba rom, they dont include any joker description text and i do not memorize that stuff

[radiant apex]

god just watching this was stressful why did he do that

[maiden salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-husky-soon-gif-7801078

[buoyant matrix]

the instantaneous slam at 22 seconds actually jumpscared me

[radiant apex]

RIGHT LIKE i went HUH?? i've never seen him do that so fast

[buoyant matrix]

it's a bug, sometimes bosses just freak out and turn on frenzy5, only other video i saw of it was with UR scylla

[idle cypress]

I refuse to subject myself to frenzy outside of chaos random trials

Still haven't done Great chaos above, don't think i'll manage that before release :/

[wise ledge]

I usually run just max frenzy

[buoyant matrix]

'tis inevitable for a high fear runner 😉

[granite mauve]

sentenced to 62 fear

[cerulean lake]

Please gods no

[buoyant matrix]

already done. twice

[idle cypress]

Damn.

[granite mauve]

only twice

[radiant apex]

OH NO the icarus bond forged chibi is so cute 😭

[granite mauve]

not even all weapons ?

[buoyant matrix]

46 more to go

[cerulean lake]

I think i do wanna see gun how fast i can kill charon, in terms of night
I dont think i can win the fear race

[buoyant matrix]

I'm working on it 😭

[granite mauve]

work faster cracks whip

we can do this the easy way or the painful way

[cerulean lake]

Lmao

[buoyant matrix]

I'm busy irl bro

and Thursday when I'm free I'll be grinding the new story stuff

will be turning every vow off except frenzy2

[granite mauve]

has 62 surface been beaten yet I haven’t seen anybody do it

[cerulean lake]

Maaan im so curious to see just how much new stuff there will be

Im trying to speedrun my work requirements so i can play more on friday

[granite mauve]

maybe im not looking hard enough

[buoyant matrix]

yeah like 20 times

[granite mauve]

we as a community need to get that number up

[merry whale]

nah it sucks

good luck when icarus forces hordes 5

[granite mauve]

[merry whale]

prob will be better in 1.0

when not every enemy is competing to be the most important

[long totem]

Guys, if Persehades have another child what do you think would happen for Persephone to not be able to raise that kid

[radiant apex]

does the larger community also think that a third PersHades child is on the way because of the arcana? I hope she actually gets to raise this one though 😭

(by on the way i mean in terms of story, not that she's pregnant right now or anything)

[cursive kayak]

macaria just straight up kills her

[dawn granite]

if i start a save game right now will it be compatible with 1.0 ??

[cursive kayak]

also nah I very doubt there’ll be another hades game

[long totem]

Not really, just a hypothetical😭

My girl was denied motherhood TWICE😭 😭

[cursive kayak]

yes it will! but honestly you may as well wait

[buoyant matrix]

yes

[cursive kayak]

it’s like 45 hours away

[radiant apex]

i also doubt we'll get a Hades 3, but i think there's a chance the epilogue involves a third kid

[pure peak]

Guys 2 days

I want to play

[buoyant matrix]

honestly start playing

[pure peak]

Actually true

[merry whale]

i feel like h2 has already achieved peak so it'd feel redundant to try to top it again with h3 lolol

[long totem]

I just can't imagine an h3

[merry whale]

and i wanna see what sgg does next

cuz i've only played the hades games n i still have to try the previous games

[bronze oak]

i mean they could add a lot of stuff from incantations to voicelines that would improve a fresh save run in 1.0. i'd say just wait 2 more days

[merry whale]

how do the prev games play w controller/deck btw

[pure peak]

What even Hades 3 would be about?

All big villain are gone

They could use giants but it would redundant

[granite mauve]

Controller works fine in both hades games

the others work fine as well I think

[merry whale]

hades 3 but it's just hades approving or disapproving requests like sort the court

good april fools bit

[merry whale]

rad

[sharp cosmos]

There's no keybind to actually approve requests

[granite mauve]

Well he does approve them in the first game very very rarely

honestly it’s fun to watch

[merry whale]

it's more frequent after persephone

[radiant apex]

little stuff like this is why SGG is goated

[granite mauve]

hades 1 has so many little details

[wise ledge]

Fates simulator - messing up rng of random hades 2 players

[azure marsh]

hades 3 but its a prequel we play hades himself

[radiant apex]

VOID LENS GET

ohhhh my god finally i can get the fate reroller

[robust basin]

Hades killing chronos and beefing with Olympus

[orchid acorn]

good thing you got it now cause those are gettingn uked at 1.0

[robust basin]

I'm against cheap additions to the franchise but it sounds cool

[azure marsh]

hades 3 but its a visual novel

[radiant apex]

the exact reason i've been trying to farm em LOL i really want to make good use of these piles and piles of sands

[robust basin]

Where's the novelty?

[granite mauve]

hades 3 but it’s modern day and live action and zagreus is a highschooler who struggles with finding love

[icy blade]

it's a prequel but we play as Skelly. The true main character

[azure marsh]

chat you should be in the writers room I feel the ideas just flowing

[radiant apex]

I finally got the Icarus romance scene so I should be able to determine with certainty whether this is a twink.

[raven perch]

You don’t get to see anything

[cerulean lake]

I hope we run a coffee shop

[radiant apex]

I know, but you see, I need all the evidence I can get

I feel as though Lilac is familiar with this brand of investigative journalism.

[oak ivy]

🗒️ 🖊️

[sleek oar]

You guys are looking into the deepest mysteries this game has to offer fr

[nimble sand]

Hello chat

[oak ivy]

you can determine from the sounds alone that those are NOT the sounds that a twink would make during that scene

[raven perch]

What kinds of sounds would a twink make…

[nimble sand]

Have you guys decided what weapon you're gonna use for your first 1.0 run, I'm thinking of doing the Argent skull with the aspect of persephone

[raven perch]

I got it: Leon Kennedy from DBD

[orchid acorn]

only if they buff it. I refuse to use it until they buff or remove the dogwater 50% chance to not work

[oak ivy]

something softer and squirmier?

[raven perch]

Whatever has grave thirst except not the skulls cuz I suck with them

[sleek oar]

Twinkvestigating

[nimble sand]

I think it's already pretty strong as it is lol

[sleek oar]

Im running circe staff, thats my no1

[nimble sand]

I beat unrivaled typhon with it on my very first try cause I got like a level 5 epic seastar early in act1 lmfao it was insane

And then I also got Hermes success rate

[oak ivy]

I'll probably do Momus or Morrigan...

[nimble sand]

So that really was ludicrous run

[raven perch]

I might do Momus?

[fathom lake]

Rivals Typhon so fuuuuuuuuunnnnnnn

[oak ivy]

wowww

[raven perch]

I straight up do not trust myself not to die

[radiant apex]

Mel Xinth 100%, I'm gonna run down there and womp Chronos so hard he'll feel it next week

[nimble sand]

He is I did 1 more derust run the other day and beat him up again lol

[sleek oar]

Are yall doing 0f

[oak ivy]

in real life or in hades?

[oak ivy]

yep

[fathom lake]

?

[nimble sand]

Xinth is cool although I just like the Selene and Nyx aspects for it

[cerulean lake]

Like in general or for v1 launch

[radiant apex]

Until I get the story done yeah, I'm getting all my Rivals and Fear pushing out of the way today lol

[oak ivy]

0 fear

[sleek oar]

For 1.0 runs

[radiant apex]

Never really got into Nyx and I always feel really slow on Selene cuz I'm so used to Mel lol

[cerulean lake]

Hmm i usually always run on low fear but i might run 0f

[nimble sand]

I had an insane selene Xinth run cause I got the ares Zeus duo boon lmfao

[fathom lake]

Probably only 5-10 fear runs

[nimble sand]

Was pretty crazy op

[cerulean lake]

I rly wanna collect the bosd drops

[sleek oar]

Im fr considering not going to uni on thursday 💀

Sgg BAD influence on the youth

[fathom lake]

I love how easy its to get Godsent with Selene coat

[nimble sand]

Yeah just take the ares keepsake in act1 lol

[oak ivy]

oh well.. no drama anymore in this chis chat... guess I actually have to go and do some studying then huh 😔

[sleek oar]

We can be controversial again

[oak ivy]

no no you're too nice to have beef with 💔

[nimble sand]

Just for the first couple underworld/surface runs and then I'll probably increase it a bit

[granite mauve]

even if Chronos was an awful person there’s no reason to make fun of his death!

[sleek oar]

😭 i was gonna say they should buff rivals sirens

Is that controversial enough

[granite mauve]

think of his grandchildren

[fathom lake]

HA

Funny useless orb go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[nimble sand]

TRUE

[oak ivy]

yeah but I am not planning on touching rivals anymore so I kinda don't care 🥱

[sleek oar]

Lowkey me neither

So fair enough

Do my uni work too while ur at it 💔

[oak ivy]

ahahaha no 💔

[idle cypress]

I'd do it for goth scylla lol

[sleek oar]

Worth the try

[orchid acorn]

thats crazy

[granite mauve]

I almost died last time I saw Scylla tour truly one of the most impressive young artists of our time

[fierce tinsel]

rivals always

[cerulean lake]

I love rivals

[oak ivy]

I'll just finish up the story and probably be done with the game for good 😔 💔

[granite mauve]

how does Scylla come back every night anyways

[orchid acorn]

the gates of the underworld are open

[orchid acorn]

🥀

[nimble sand]

Should I play bastion and pyre chat I did beat transistor

[fierce tinsel]

bastion is ok

feels old

[granite mauve]

im old!

[oak ivy]

Pyre is probably still my 2nd fav SGG game (next to Hades 2)

[fierce tinsel]

still decent

[oak ivy]

hi gerson!

[nimble sand]

Transistor was way too short lmao it was finally actually starting to get interesting and then it just ended already 💀

[fierce tinsel]

thats what looping is for

although to be fair its pretty easy to make really egregiously strong builds after looping

[lucid bronze]

finally getting the greater chaos trials out the way before 1.0

if you hit morrigan its free you can build anything on that weapon and it has guaranteed high damage

[bright fern]

pyre is so peam please do it

[radiant apex]

the morrigan is so good i'm doing a rivals underworld run with it rn

[bright fern]

also, not enough people talking about how hot oralech is, he’s kinda the proto-zagreus to me

[cursive kayak]

my great chaos below was with mel axe, my great chaos above was with mel torches

don’t let the haters fool you, torches are great

[raven perch]

I changed my mind I’m doing Moros torches as usual

I forgot they’re my favorite

[fierce tinsel]

any nergal enjoyers

[granite mauve]

bonk

[lucid bronze]

yeah i just hit posessed array medea on great chaos above i might get this done first try

[sharp nymph]

what is great chaos?

[sharp cosmos]

Prolly just some Meli flames. I like the simplicity of the weapon.
Or maybe some nyx coat with ospecial

[quaint pumice]

Ken carson album

[lucid bronze]

arcana weapon keepsake and familiar randomised + 20 random fear

[sharp nymph]

oh ic, is it an acive or something? or community thing?

[lucid bronze]

chaos trial

[sharp nymph]

oh im still working my way thro them 🙂

[cursive kayak]

🤝

moros torches my beloved

[ancient totem]

Quick question regarding achievements; I'm guessing same as Hades 1 players will retroactively get all the ones they've done prior to 1.0 once the patch launches? Either via booting up save or doing a run to get the run to recognize data

[broken glen]

Full explanation: ||Once you complete all other chaos trials, you’ll get chaos above/chaos below: a 0-fear run with random weapon, arcana, familiar, keepsake, etcetera in the underworld (below) or surface (above). Once you complete those two, you’ll unlock great chaos above/below, which is the same as the previous trial but with random vows equaling 20 fear.||

[ancient totem]

Ty people, I'm also surprised all 50 are public at the moment since they do 'spoil' areas, NPCs, and bosses, and narrative events. Not sure if SGG intended that or if its an error on Steam's end

[sharp nymph]

thats really really cool actually

[oak ivy]

Yeah I'm kinda surprised too

[cursive kayak]

great chaos is a fun challenge. it also helped me level up my keepsakes since it chose a bunch I didn’t use much

[bronze oak]

tbh if youre going through the list of achievments when you want to remain spoiler free youre doing it to yourself. but yeah i agree they couldve waited until launch

[orchid acorn]

if its repeatable you have to do it again.

if its not you retroactively get it in 2

[candid geode]

do you think theyll release one last trailer (like they did with the updates) on the day of release?

[broken glen]

It’s a great addition for replay value- it’s also a lot harder than you’d expect, as you don’t get to use an ideal arcana build and whatnot (and you’ll get screwed over by weird vows)

[cursive kayak]

I doubt it just bc of how high quality this last one was

[broken glen]

Great chaos above took me longer than 32f surface 💀

[candid geode]

i wasnt expecting an animated one but like the others where it shows snippits of what to expect along with new content

[cursive kayak]

ohhh

then yeah no idea

[candid geode]

we shall wait and see

so mote it be

[cerulean lake]

So mote it be

[orchid acorn]

for release prob not

[cerulean lake]

We'll probably get the patch notes reading vid

[orchid acorn]

for the eventual ratings "This game is 10/10" yeah priob

[oak bison]

I think there is going to be a launch trailer for hype reasons, but it could be just a re-edited version of the long animation trailer

[cinder quartz]

i wish they added outifits for Melinoe instead of the familiars

[robust basin]

I want to say things about SS but I am too scared to go to the down channel...

[robust basin]

well... they will have to change

[cerulean lake]

Ive been oit of the loop for ages, i cant not begin to remember the promotional norms for studios similar to SS

[robust basin]

because we have achievements

[candid geode]

i mean we dont know yet

[orchid acorn]

we likely have arachne dresses

[broken glen]

Arachne dresses technically count but those are temporary

[robust basin]

promotional norms?

[candid geode]

the least we will get is mel in official chthonic house of hades wear for the finished portrait in the epilogue

[broken glen]

Can’t wait for that

[candid geode]

ugh.... my heart wont be able to handle that....

half of me hopes they dont pull an ocarina of time thingy on mel

[broken glen]

Imagine if they gave Mel an alt-outfit with chthonic wear (like how Persephone has her 2 outfits)

That’d be adorable

[candid geode]

like those fanarts of her wearing zagreus' clothes

[ancient totem]

I only mention it because H1 used the hidden/secret achievement steam functionality so I was surprised they wouldn't for H2

[nimble sand]

Aight maybe I'll pick it up during the fall steam sale

[limpid folio]

hades 2 in 2 tomorrows

[nimble sand]

44 hours

[cursive kayak]

[candid geode]

https://tenor.com/view/dawn-gif-23933434

[bleak viper]

48 hours till peak

[sleek oar]

44 hours

Why are we at 1 minute chat timer PLWASE 😭 WHAT HAPPENED

[oak ivy]

Wait what??

Mods please explain 😭

This is soooooo bad....

[cursive kayak]

huh WAIT YEAH the cooldown

which one of u

see im sure they had a valid reason

so which of u made it so they had to do it. I just wanna talk

[radiant apex]

i've just been quietly farming Nightmares for my weapons don't look at ME

[hollow lily]

who tf put a 1 minute cooldown

[sleek oar]

I love talking to much for this 💔💔💔

[oak ivy]

Could we at least have an explanation for the 1 minute timer?? 💔

[cursive kayak]

the question is: who messed up so badly they had to turn the cooldown up to a minute

[raven perch]

Probably in preparation for 1.0 discussion spam. This is indeed awful though

[long totem]

What happened

[oak ivy]

It's impossible to have any conversations at all with a 1 minute timer.... The server will pretty much dead :/

[raven perch]

That might be the point, to discourage conversations the way we’ve been having them

[long totem]

one minute wait HOW ARE WE TO SOB ABOUT THE GAME???

[oak ivy]

It's still a 5 second timer in the other channels......

Wow this is so disappointing

[hollow lily]

im over here stroking my dih i got boons on my dih im booning hard

[sleek oar]

Maybe that ragebaiter’s dad works for supergiant games 💔

[wintry dagger]

time cannot be stopped

[radiant apex]

never should have divorced them

[cursive kayak]

oh hi amir

[rotund sage]

Privileges have to be earned and this discord has shown it hasn’t earned them lately 😂

[long totem]

We'll see bout that🫡

[oak ivy]

1 minute is soooo long though.. It feels soo bad........ 😭😔

[wintry dagger]

Amir going to tell us that it's Chronos who set the timer and the timer will only get bigger until release

[radiant apex]

Hades 2 ARG when

[stark vine]

We've updated our #readme-first rules. Please review them in advance of our launch. We have also increased the slow mode in this channel so that you may review these rules and stay on topic in these channels.

[granite mauve]

Buff Medea 🙏

[cursive kayak]

that’s fair. this channel does tend to get off topic

[polar abyss]

Vow of Time so dangerous, it applies to Real Life as well. You’ll soon feel a little pain that’ll grow in about the next 5 minutes.

[spiral isle]

yeahh that makes sense
also 1 on 1 chatting happening more with even more people than now would be really noisy

[rotund sage]

I’ll just be patiently rocking in the corner till Thursday!

[oak ivy]

It is fair, true... but this is a pretty extreme change too 😔

[sleek oar]

I will miss yapping with you guys

[rotund sage]

If you were here last release day it’s honestly nicer and wayyyy less chaotic 😂

[orchid acorn]

test

[long totem]

Last night we were talking of the yarn melody and light unsoul😔 they had enough😔

[polar abyss]

Personally I feel like I’ve seen more and more drama here since it was changed to 5 seconds, so I get it. And also again, people will probably fill up the server potentially with spam after 1.0 drops, so I assume the cooldown will stay like this for a few weeks.

[orchid acorn]

1 MINUTE TIMER FOR CHAT 😔 this is horrible ngl

[buoyant matrix]

mel axe

[polar abyss]

Worst case scenario, if you need to talk to each other, there’s I guess private servers, or the Speedrun discord for builds. Though that too may get a timer if people flood there too.

[sleek oar]

Chronos won 💔

[broken glen]

Time cannot be stopped…

[granite mauve]

Vow of Time is now active

[frank mulch]

An entire minute? Wow

Seems tough

I could not even imagine !

M

[sleek oar]

I can send a message, enter oceanus, beat scylla, and then send another message

[long totem]

Lmaooo

[orchid acorn]

i mean fair enough this has prevented me from yapping. see yall at release day i guess

[spiral isle]

oh, question about languages... does hades in general do other languages? thinking about some friends that could be interested in playing it...

[broken glen]

Privileged 🫵

[cursive kayak]

I do notice this channel goes off topic way too much so honestly I get it

[polar abyss]

You ain’t seeing me at Release Day. I’m out of here the day of, cause of whomever or whenever Spoilers McGee may show their face.

[granite mauve]

who wants to play Minecraft

[frank mulch]

It has a bunch of languages it’s translated to, but the voice is only in English. And if you mean in the server - no, it will be impossible to moderate and communicate with all of it

[spiral isle]

aye, that's what I wanted to know ty (as in regarding the game)

[oak ivy]

AD do you know how long it will stay like this? is it ever going to go back to 5 seconds??
1 minute is absolutely brutal..

[granite mauve]

why did supergiant lames do this 💔

[frank mulch]

I’m glad I got to see a bit of silent hill f (looks fantastic) because on the 25th you bet I am don’t kthjn

Oh I am falling asleep it seems I do not remember sending this message

[buoyant matrix]

maybe in 5 years? h1 channels don't have any slowdown

[polar abyss]

You just sent it and forgot you sent it?

[cursive kayak]

I probably won’t be posting here. I was thinking about just posting some of my reactions but. eh. would rather focus on playing the actual game

[wise ledge]

Wow. Every time I open this channel and see the "Slowmode is enabled" notice I go "Ugh, why" in my head. And now it's a minute? That's crazy. Someone think about zoomers who can't write a message with more than five words lol

[buoyant matrix]

i will return to this channel once i have seen EVERYTHING

[cursive kayak]

no slowmode just generally is very necessary.

[sleek oar]

Its me vs my impulse to press send every couple of words

[granite mauve]

#h2-for-new-players just got renamed

[wintry dagger]

I think the testaments were jiggled around a bit when more bosses got introduced and weapon testaments that weren't fully complete got reset or extended. It has been a few months so I don't remember exactly the behavior but I had more to do after that patch to complete them.

[orchid acorn]

oh hey they took my feedback into account then

[indigo cypress]

What's the difference between no spoilers and this 😭

Are they saying we have to spoil tag everything here too now or . . . ?

[merry whale]

it's prob just to more clearly redirect new players (i'd put it above h2-discussion but yknow)

[frank mulch]

That nonsense typo is me falling asleep lmao a week or so ago I accidntalt locked my phone bc I was trying to open it while barely conscious. Message is - go rest girl

[buoyant matrix]

it's the same as h1 channels, everyone active here is far from a new player

[frank mulch]

Ok I’m horizontal goodsleep channel goers

[orchid acorn]

😔 https://imgur.com/03ciiPG

[velvet hearth]

Hypnos reference

[indigo cypress]

I mean fair when it first comes out but for how long is my thing

Like I'm trying to avoid 1.0 spoilers too but I'm just gonna not log on until I beat the game 💀

And like is it the same as non-spoilers with anything past Erebus? Or does 1.0 only refer to story and not any gameplay additions

This is too much of a hassle I'm just gonna stay in the speedrun cord 💀

[robust basin]

HEY! I AM A VERY NEW PLAYER!
I cannot go past 32 fear

[merry whale]

i imagine it'll prob last for like a week or so, def will be an influx of new people in these channels so it makes sense not to instantly be bombarded with endgame spoilers

[rare marten]

can someone tell Chronos to stop slowing down time IRL? I swear every hour is going slower and slower the closer it gets to the 25th

[robust basin]

I believe it is necessary. Too much unruliness

[ebon crane]

Frr

[orchid acorn]

like its crazy cause i want to discuss the game and help new players but this is just... eugh

[merry whale]

just spoiler tag it's not hard :)

[indigo cypress]

I'm on mobile and ||this|| never works 😔

Omg nvm it worked

[orchid acorn]

its not the tag thats the issue. its the 1 minute per response. as evidented by me finishing this 25 seconds into the 1 min cd

[robust basin]

Why not? I can ||spoiler|| anything in moments via mobile.

[buoyant matrix]

yo guys i just entered zag's room and i found ||zag's corpse! he's dead! gone for good||!!

[bronze oak]

1 min slowmode is sick and twisted actually its not even release day

[granite mauve]

Awesome data mined spoiler I just found: || sans deltarune is in the mirror of night ||

[merry whale]

yea fair, it does feel a little too early to have 1 minute, tho when it does come influx of new players will be a nightmare to moderate,,

[robust basin]

Finally some good news!

[merry whale]

i'm prob not gonna be active here anyway just to avoid spoilers entirely lol

[graceful sundial]

guys so achievements are supposed to pop up retroactively right?

[orchid acorn]

at 1.0 yes

and only ones that aren't repeatable iirc

[graceful sundial]

oh alright. Thank you!

[uncut galleon]

||probably making jokes with your mom (nyx)||

[cursive kayak]

tagging 1.0 spoilers makes sense

[tiny relic]

the achievements are back

[orchid acorn]

they've been there for like 2 days

[tiny relic]

oh havent noticed

[granite mauve]

I wonder if steam cards and badges will be released with 1.0

[long totem]

what is wrong with you😟 /j

[spiral canopy]

Depends. generally steam has to approve you first, but given the game's been in early access for a while I'd imagine h2 is well within the metrics steams likes to see for enabling profile customization, but I dont see anything in the steamworks docs about whether early access makes a difference or not, so then it would be up to supergiant about if they want to do them and when they release them.

I forget when h1's dropped, it may have been launch day or it may have been within a day or two or launch. I like to think supergiant will do them again but we'll just have to wait and see haha

[granite mauve]

if they do badges for hades 2 I hope it's a bit more unique than that ugly skull

[spiral canopy]

skull... 2!

https://tenor.com/view/e3-peggle-jump-two-gif-13350703

[glossy shadow]

The same skull but with the back half of a beautiful mullet

[little mason]

1.0 today? why is it 1 minutes to post lool

[cursive kayak]

in preparation, so the channel doesn’t get spammed (and an undertone of so this channel stops getting off track)

[polar abyss]

No, and because the Gods said so

[limpid oar]

Dropping the release a day early would be so peak actually

[sharp nymph]

1min slowmode is kinda brutal

[granite mauve]

too much bisexuality we overloaded the servers

[bright fern]

it’s brutal now but it’ll be fine when the server gets flooded with new players on launch day… still agree it feels bad a few days before, i wanna get excited in here for a bit longer 😟

[cursive kayak]

it is bi day

[limpid oar]

Yeah the channel will get spammed far too much once the game releases, they should make it 3 mins at least

[odd nacelle]

quick question does anyone know the exact requirements for heracles final heart

[orchid acorn]

if i could i can't talk about it due to it being codefied in the rules now :^)

[indigo cypress]

At least builds and combat doesn't have the slow timer

But I just know all the new players are gonna put their new ?s there and not here

Also in response to above ab Heracles beating (gameplay spoiler next beware)
||rivals 3 surface||

Is this how I have to talk now

[lost tapir]

about to try to get the 3rd statue before the update

[orchid acorn]

spoilers are only required for "1.0" spoilers heracles bond unless it changes is pre 1.0

[tender river]

So what are you all doing on Tuesday and Wednesday while waiting for 1.0?

[granite mauve]

job

[bright fern]

literally rushed to get greatest gift of gaia before 1.0 (I didnt prioritize making pet treats + levels up beyond stuff like raki crit at all)

[cursive kayak]

u have to get dialogue in relation to the rivals fight, and then he will talk to u when he next comes to help

||look for him saying “flame thief” when talking to prometheus||

I don’t technically have to spoil that but some people like finding it on their own

[thorn shadow]

Are we able to get achievements now? Or does that start when it's fully out

[cursive kayak]

when it’s fully out

[thorn shadow]

Thanks!

[sour vector]

yall im definitely fixing to buy this but it "comes out" in two days. any special stuff for buying during early access?

[wintry dagger]

I still theorize that Zag could be a secret familiar so I’ve incanted a few scooby snacks for him just in case he’s hungry for upgrades too

[glossy shadow]

+41 heal per room transmission
On aspect of nergal
I'm handling 24 heat surface run 😌

[dusty tapir]

Nothing known to my knowledge but a music track ir a piece of decor would be cool

[glossy shadow]

I got moon water with "stack extra heals on top" too, I'm coming up on Prometheus w 15 pops

[sharp nymph]

gl!

[glossy shadow]

I DEMAND Mel statue 3 before 1.0!!

[sharp nymph]

i did 24 surf today but I cant get past sirens on 32, if i even get past hecete 🙁 i dont think ill do it b4 thurday

[glossy shadow]

Chaos blessed me with transcendent healing and my 2 rooms before the city multiplex were Selene and chaos, who gave me more healing per room clear, the only way I could be more resilient would have been double heal frenzy

As of defeating prommy, I've taken over 1000 damage 🗿

[cosmic basin]

I got through 32 sirens by playing super safe on supay tbh. I dont remember what i used my first attempt but i got it second try thanks to supay lol

[little mason]

Do we get 1 day early access to 1.0 if we buy the game now?

[cosmic basin]

I wish

[pure peak]

Less than 48hrs

[glossy shadow]

I've started to get used to vow of frenzy speed 🗿🗿🗿 defeated Typhon with 8 casts of heal left

[gritty ingot]

can't believe we're only 2 days off

[crude dragon]

The rapture was delayed until after Hades 2 released

[merry whale]

hold on rapture i have my hades 2 playthru

[granite mauve]

what if heaven has hades 3?

[stoic flint]

40 hours!

[orchid acorn]

should be 38hours

[raven perch]

Not quite I don’t think

[little mason]

sorry guys we are delaying hades 2 the 26th

[plain shale]

I’m mentally imagining the majoras mask “dawn of the last 48 hours”

[grizzled trench]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-gif-26849459

[frank mulch]

This gif goes so hard

Hello chat indeed…

[grizzled trench]

hjölle mölle one minute slowmode....

[frank mulch]

Wow it went by so fast !

[grizzled trench]

time flies when you're watching a countdown timer I suppose

must be preparing for launch in a couple of days

[wise ledge]

Usually it's the opposite, time crawls when you're watching a countdown

[little mason]

https://tenor.com/view/tick-tock-clock-fast-gif-2014148180424451143

[frank mulch]

hi

how goes it

[granite mauve]

The

[rough falcon]

HADES 2 TOMORROW!

[indigo cypress]

Chat do you think its worth to read patch notes before opening 1.0 or just going straight into 1.0 and reading patch notes after

I expect your responses in 5 business days

[honest plank]

Vow of time just killed me in a cutscene </3

[blissful pecan]

somebody see hades 2 achievements?

[wise ledge]

Everyone, for more than a day now

[ornate dragon]

Will hades 2 have cross save between the pc version?

[orchid acorn]

I hate to break it to you, but there is a lot more than 24 hours to go

[glossy shadow]

Let's throw things at pronto until the wait is over

[cursive kayak]

eh, time zones. technically speaking in 2.5 hours it will be “hades 2 tomorrow” day for me

[covert badge]

Is mpreg mention still allowed in this server

[orchid acorn]

time zones are irrelevant, cause its a global release. it can't be tomorrow for you cause there are >27 hours remaining

[bright fern]

1 minute slow down makes me feel crazy I feel like i’m trying to do a try not to speak or make noise challenge in a room with 200 people

[cursive kayak]

time zones are relevant for the concept of “tomorrow”

if something releases at like 11pm on thursday, midnight on that wednesday is still a tomorrow away. (granted, it’s most of that day. but still tomorrow)

[orchid acorn]

absolutely correct, but thats not the case here.

There are 39 hours 23 minutes until release.

In no way shape or form is that "tomorrow" in 2.5 hours

[cursive kayak]

no im saying in 2.5 hours it will be midnight on wednesday for me, which means it will be “hades 2 tomorrow” day. since it comes out thursday at noon

[orchid acorn]

ah that makes more sense then i misunderstood 😭 hades 2 tomorrow not hades 2 is tomorrow

[cursive kayak]

yeah mb for the bad explanation LOL

[granite mauve]

time to start asking for hades 2 dlc, we will never be satisfied

[long totem]

Lol are we by any chance named Angelica Schuyler?

[wise ledge]

DLC with more familiar skins. And a spinoff game where Mel discovers her mom's cottage and restores it stardew valley style.

[long totem]

And their third secret sibling which her mom gets to actually raise

AFTER SAVING EVERYONE POST GAME POST GAME😭 😭 😭

[wise ledge]

Oh, I thought a secret sibling that was actually living in the cottage all this time and had to hide when Zag came by :D

[twin apex]

well guys, i finished the one paper i had to do so now i have no other hw before the drop for h2

(ignoring the exam i have tomorrow, but that's in-class so technically not hw)

[shy charm]

38 hours left

Wait a minute why am I in super slow mode 1 msg a minute? did I do something?

[sharp nymph]

everyone is 😄

[shy charm]

HMMmmmm
we've been too hyped and talking too much

[sharp nymph]

gonna get crazy in here in th next day or 2

[shy charm]

that's true

[twin apex]

ye they specifically said they're anticipating a lot of new members when the game drops. they updated the rules channel too

[shy charm]

every time I type something simple like "that's true" I am regretting it because I wasted my 1min timer on a simple response rather than say something insightful or complain about X thing

ohh we need to use spoiler tags now, ok thats cool good to know

||hades 2 is a really good game||

[cursive kayak]

i mean you can always edit ur message

[sharp nymph]

the release cant come at a better time, ive just got to the point where ive exhausted most dialogues or bonds and now fully addicted 🙂 so excited

[weary moon]

absolute peak

[frank mulch]

Nah in the mythology zagreus and melinoë have a sibling called macaria
If she lives there, she must have time traveled (or had to be game-canon in the first place)

[sharp nymph]

im so hyped to see whats through the doors !

[frank mulch]

Why add dlc when you can also not add dlc?

[cursive kayak]

im of the opinion that if you have dlc completed before the game is out, then in most instances its just them purposefully withholding something from you so they can get more money

cough nintendo cough

[frank mulch]

And like every AAA ever. It’s becoming common practice to release “season pass” for future dlc like are you having me on

Actually it has been for a while. As far as I’m aware sg did free dlc with bastion, and pyre did get another difficulty mode a bit after launch. I’m not sure abt transistor I wasn’t there but it did get a new song for the apple TV version of the game and it is a beautiful song

Soooo actual DLC would be strange also considering this was an early access game but hey, sure
(Also I want to see another game with an original setting again)

[cursive kayak]

yeah

[indigo cypress]

Since it likely will be og game in an at least somewhat different genre/gameplay loop, would you still want it to be Early Access? Or do you think EA is something that worked particularly well for Hades and wouldn't work for their other projects?

[frank mulch]

Well sg said hades was designed with EA in mind from the beginning

[bright fern]

i’m actually really excited to see what new game SGG will make after this, they’ve been creating within this universe for several years now and it seems like prime time to create something from scratch

[frank mulch]

So personally no, I want to see something else, and smaller

[sharp nymph]

turn based tactical combat game

[frank mulch]

Ah, I should replay transistor while I have time before 1.0…

[bright fern]

they’ve been working on fast paced action games for their past 2 titles so i meannn 👀

[raven perch]

I can’t wait to see their new rpgmaker project

[frank mulch]

ren’py is calling

Everyone recommend me One rpgmaker game

Use your minute wisely 🕵️

[raven perch]

In Stars and Time

[frank mulch]

That one’s funny bc I only found out about it by the dev following one of my fandom side blogs on tumblr and I was like wow I vaguely recognize that name! Otherwise I probably would have only seen it with this wave of popularity

It is on my wishlist when I lock in and play games again I will have a look at it :)

[merry whale]

peak

[frank mulch]

I heard you need friends to play that one unfortunately for me :/

[raven perch]

AD go play silksong neow 🥺

[cursive kayak]

i have ISAT and i played like the first 30 minutes. i gotta actually play it at some point

(my friend bought me it, it was super nice of them)

[frank mulch]

Jk I have so many friends everyone loves me so much and I’m the best :)

[merry whale]

gotta, it's really good

[frank mulch]

It’s so sad that I don’t think it’s for me, I never got far into hk

[raven perch]

Awgh this is the end of the world

[frank mulch]

It really is sad. I like the little bugs
It’s really funny that the only game of this genre that I remember REALLY gripped me is sundered and it’s kinda mid

[merry whale]

yea if u haven't played thru hk (or me who hasn't played hk in a long time) silksong is a pain in the ass

[indigo cypress]

I bought HK during the sale but didn't start it in time and now 1.0 is here so aw shucks oh well 🤷

[frank mulch]

Actually it’s not mid it’s peak I’m sorry sundered if people don’t like the gameplay that’s their fault

[hearty fog]

What if they bounced off Sundered because of the art and animation?

[frank mulch]

their fault doubly so!!!!

Jk it’s all about taste. But I think it’s so beautiful

[hearty fog]

For what it's worth, the color palette was not at all a problem.

[frank mulch]

I think I should start playing these huge cinematic well regarded AAA games like god of war and horizon zero dawn

[cursive kayak]

my current list of to-plays:

• hollow knight (my partner bought it for me)
• expedition 33 (my good friend/someone im sort of in a relationship with bought it for me)
• in stars and time (friend bought it for me)
• oneshot (my friend bought it for me years ago)
• going under (i bought it for me and my friend bc another friend recommended it)
• celeste (i got it on sale for like 2 bucks and a lot of my friends adore the game)

[hearty fog]

HZD > Dad of Boy.

[frank mulch]

I hope your relationship blossoms. I love expedition 33 a lot and will not stop talking about it. My backlog is over 400 games long

[merry whale]

celeste and oneshot r really good

[frank mulch]

The only thing I truly remember from hzd is that when you loot a container it makes a little drumming noise that was so pleasant to me

[raven perch]

I don’t know what video games are. my to-play list only contains: undertale

[frank mulch]

like tapping your fingers on a table if it was good

[indigo cypress]

The first time I heard e33 I didn't know it was a game and just thought who mulitiplied E3 by 11

[cursive kayak]

hi i am totally normal about undertale you should play it

[frank mulch]

LOL yeah I get that. I think it’s more catchy than Clair obscur and a more notable abbreviating than CO And not as cumbersome as COE33

[merry whale]

who is under and why are they on my tale

[frank mulch]

I’ll play deltarune when it’s fully out
Replaying Undertale after a decade made me feel kind of… disillusioned

[cursive kayak]

(I definitely haven’t been in the community since early 2016 and i certainly wasn’t on a development team for a popular undertale fangame and I definitely am not an admin for an undertale/deltarune streamer who happens to be a good friend of mine)

[frank mulch]

Maybe I’m just a different person now

[indigo cypress]

I wonder if SG considered calling Hades 2 "Chronos" instead of using a 2 in order to mirror main antagonist being the name of the game

[hearty fog]

My older brother mentioned that E33 was on his radar tonight when I hung out.

[merry whale]

wait which undertale fangame (this 1 minute slowmode doing numbers lmaooo)

[cursive kayak]

undertale yellow! i helped with a bit of the writing

[raven perch]

Wowza! You’re yellow now. That’s my special attack.

[frank mulch]

I say convince him :D

[merry whale]

no way peak 👀, i had a really good time w that game, had to use wine smth i forgot the name of to run it on my mac lolol

[frank mulch]

guys there’s the guy that voices Prometheus in expedition 33 everybody let’s go to expedition 33land for Prometheus. That One Guy

[little mason]

e33 you need a good computer to pla that

[merry whale]

i stopped at the uty geno endboss tho, felt way too technical for lil me 🐀 (so just watched shayy beat it)

[frank mulch]

You do but there are some performance mods that help a lot, my brother played it on a 1060

[hearty fog]

While I knew Ben Starr played the lead of FF16, I didn't care about him until Prometheus.

[raven perch]

He also voices 17 doors

[little mason]

is that from like the 1990's

[frank mulch]

I never played ff16 and I didn’t see enough of Prometheus but holy moly his voice acting in e33 is phenomenal

[boreal rover]

Excuse me, hi im new but I am also new to the Hades games and Bullet Hail genre in general.
Can someone tell me how H2 compares to Hades? I am not liking what I have heard of the plot of the game so far.

[cursive kayak]

nah i feel that im not particularly good at it either LOL

glad u liked the game though :D

[raven perch]

The plot isn’t finished yet; gameplay is miles better

[little mason]

hades 1 is better then hades 2 for sure

[frank mulch]

His character in e33 has this one moment… I think I have never heard such raw and moving voice acting in any game I played ever. And if I did, that moment overtook it by miles

[crude dragon]

Hades isn't a bullet hell, it's a roguelite

[boreal rover]

It isn't about being finished yet, I dislike the whole Chronos coming back from death to cause issues

[cursive kayak]

hades 2 gameplay makes hades 1 look like a tech demo. it’s genuinely so good

it’s hard to judge the story bc a lot of the main story isn’t available rn lol

[raven perch]

Then there’s nothing I can say to change that because that’s the foundational premise of the game 😅 if that’s enough to be a dealbreaker for you then that’s that

[indigo cypress]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KqFNbEnB1BKTyBOjM7U-vJCkmpVm4elYxkWY-Z6caJc/edit?usp=drivesdk

Here was my review mostly focuses on gameplay details and how they compare to H1

If you want to play only for story I'd wait a couple days just to see reaction to full story. But the general direction game seems to be going in is a greater focus on being plot-driven than character-driven compared to Hades 1

[little mason]

gustav is my favorite character i like the skills better then the other guy

[frank mulch]

Big comparison but yeah the gameplay in h2 is so much smoother it’s hard to come back

[crude dragon]

It's actually something alluded to in the first game, believe it or not. IIRC, either some dialogue from Hades or the Satyr entries in the Codex mention them performing blood rituals up in the Temple of Styx for some unknown purpose

[frank mulch]

Yaaa he’s great. my brother finished the game a few days ago I think gustave is his favorite based on many texts I received

[cursive kayak]

i tried going back the other day to play h1, and I was like “man i miss <x>, man i miss <y>, man i miss <z>”

granted i love hades 1. so much. but h2’s gameplay is just so much better

[frank mulch]

And who is your favorite giiiiirl in the story

[little mason]

the devs almost made me quit the game because of something they did in the game

[crude dragon]

Pretty sure the closest this game gets to a bullet hell is the starting volley of Grandpa phase 3.

This isn't Hush, Mother, or Delirium from Isaac

[frank mulch]

||yeah that secret boss hits pretty hard huh||

[raven perch]

It’s Dogma 🔥

[little mason]

nah the end of act 1

[crude dragon]

Oh, getting filtered by Dyno's gotta sting with the 1-minute slow mode

[frank mulch]

I know, it was a joak :>

[boreal rover]

Thank you, and since the bot deleted my last message I will just say I am trying not to be negative about the game or discouraging simply for my own strict views

[little mason]

how dare you not like something liek what we do

[wise ledge]

Eeeeh, I would argue. I would say that some technical details do make hades 1 look much worse in comparison, like UI, animations, transitions, sound design, stuff like that. Gameplay wise though... I decided to switch back to hades 1 while waiting for the launch a few days ago, and just running the Achilles spear trying to go fast just for the sake of it I have more fun than I've had from hades 2 in a long time

[neat frigate]

Damn haelian got an interview with amir?? This’ll be interesting

[frank mulch]

Oh yeah I didn’t think about the dyno thing… anyway I saw the message I think marvel is like. Unbelievably bad in this regard
Hades is just leagues better bc it’s well researched and even if it deviates from original myth (quite a bit, to serve the story and gameplay) it’s still what it is and not like. A modern day superhero ensemble cast movie series

Or comics or whatever I don’t know I was just born

[cursive kayak]

to each their own then!

[frank mulch]

Also characters are awesome I like melinoë she’s epic

[little mason]

mod doesnt have a 1 min timer , get him for spamming

[raven perch]

Mmm what I say to that is that even if it might be better researched it still heavily employs the same writing tropes as big blockbuster marvel movies imo.. such as the “defenders of the status quo” element of it etc.

[indigo cypress]

Imo the only deviation I don't understand rn is Polyphemus not being Poseidon's son besides trying to not make sea uncle look bad

[covert badge]

yessss get them ahh

[cursive kayak]

legit that’s such a confusing thing to me LOL. like i get it’s supposed to be modern sensibilities with some things or whatever but we are literally trying to murder our grandpa. our cousin trying to eat us is comparatively not that weird.

[frank mulch]

You mean hades? huh…. Well honestly I trust u I really don’t watch most marvel stuff and if I do it’s for funsies bc I’m not mega into it and could not even imagine being

[raven perch]

I think it’s more about them not wanting Poseidon to have kids so he can remain the weird childless uncle

[crude dragon]

Doesn't Poseidon still consider him and the other cyclopes adopted children?

[indigo cypress]

Wait I didn't think ab it like that . . . Polyphemus romance confirmed???

[wise ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goon-dodgeball-movie-vince-vaughn-adopted-gif-14923336

[little mason]

he loves his sheep right?

[crude dragon]

Especially when the launch trailer has grandpa with a maw all his own (seriously, why are his teeth so sharp, it looks like a shark's mouth)

[lost wing]

https://tenor.com/view/bender-shut-up-i-know-it-futurama-shut-up-baby-i-know-it-gif-17498571

[covert badge]

oh wait #h2-for-new-players was a thing all along?

[frank mulch]

That’s really funny actually. I hope in my biopic this is how I’m depicted

[crude dragon]

Nah, channel name changed to that from "no spoilers"

[merry whale]

they made him keep the icd in the divorce

[covert badge]

whats with that check mark ticking table thing on wiki is that necessary

[frank mulch]

The huh?

I think I’ve seen that on stuff like ign so you could track completion
Is it on the actual wikis??

[cursive kayak]

boooost

[crude dragon]

- Aspect of Nyx

[merry whale]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-attack-rat-attack-have-at-thee-gif-11648161592664583090

[indigo cypress]

Should I do meme builds for my first 10 1.0 wins or stay on the 62 grind

Like yes I want to stay used to high fear but Nyx omega boost Ripple Effect sounds so funny

[toxic beacon]

Play the soup build

[merry whale]

im prob just gonna be doing blind speedrun without looking at the patch notes

[cursive kayak]

yeah. im just gonna go through what i have left without looking at patch notes. when i finish my file ill look at patch notes then start a new file

[merry whale]

gotta get those ||familiar costumes||

[cursive kayak]

im so hyped for them honestly

[hearty fog]

Gonna drop all Fear except Rivals, and even then maybe just drop it entirely, until I've seen credits.

[indigo cypress]

I wonder if having Rivals on or off has any impact on story runs

Like what are the ramifications of having ||Chronos|| in ||Typhon||'s fight

[cursive kayak]

no idea

im probably gonna be running ||0 fear moros torches|| just to do the runs quickly

idk what to spoiler tag and what not to eeeeeeep

[twin apex]

tbh i'm expecting a slight shift in the fear mechanic, mostly for the reason that a maximum of 67 is super odd, and also it's a unanimous opinion that 5 fear for 4 levels of void is stupidly low

[wintry dagger]

Void should be a multiplier

[indigo cypress]

I mean even if they adjust it where void is more fear I'm still not turning that thing on bc lame and inconvenient 😭 (like 62f would just shift to whatever the new value for voidless oath is)

[twin apex]

in all honesty, i just hope they completely replace vow of void. it just isn't fun and the difficulty is completely artificial

[mortal dragon]

alright I'm not going to finish Silksong by Thursday so I fear I'm gonna have to leave until I do to avoid spoilers 🫡

See ya'll on the other side

[little frost]

1 minute slowmode for the incoming waves of ppl makes sense tbh, but how are pronto and lilac supposed to bicker back and forth

[raven perch]

In our glorious sherma fanclub server

[merry whale]

john supergiant

[raven perch]

Delete this mate 😭

[neon isle]

guys do we think hades will come out soon

[empty abyss]

? Did I leak some?

[buoyant matrix]

???

[neon isle]

am i not included.... i know you all hate me. i know you all hate me

[merry whale]

yea actually ur guts suck

[indigo cypress]

Them adding in #readme-first to not post multiple times a day and take a break is still crazy 😭

[raven perch]

Don worry about it just trust me

[neon isle]

its really funny to me that the mechanic for invoking rivals is "fear". chronos only shows up if hes scared, he just gets anxiety randomly some nights

chronos actually doesn't care about winning the war when he's nonplussed about the whole melinoe situation

[granite mauve]

chronos magically being resurrected when you fight rivals typhon after killing chronos but before killing typhon

[merry whale]

i had this random concept of a what if scenario, where chronos, about to be sealed away forever by melinoe, suddenly becomes so fearful of possibly being truly stopped, he allows this "fear" to internalize within him, causing his gold veins etc. to become purple and basically becoming extremely powerful, but counteracted by the irony that his "fear" also causes you to both take less damage as well as deal more, so essentially just a spectacle fight

[granite mauve]

chronos will send a spy to the crossroads and set the oath of the unseen to 67 fear right after melinoe leaves for the night

[merry whale]

foolish npc in-game

[buoyant matrix]

foolish npc would actually go kill athena
btw @merry whale cool trick i learnt from other slowmode channels, literally just edit past messages 🗿
don't have to wait a whole hour

[merry whale]

tru ye

[buoyant matrix]

i will be mel axing 62 fear today
wards0 void2 judgement run 😨
wish me luck

[granite mauve]

you can do it 🙏

[merry whale]

peak 😎👍

[candid nimbus]

I think it's more to create fear on Melinoe, rather than Chronos feeling fearful himself

[dreamy phoenix]

Death to him regardless

[candid nimbus]

Death to Chronos indeed

[robust basin]

The grandfather of chaos

[robust basin]

You can do this!
🗻

[sleek oar]

Hey guys whens 1.0 coming out

[robust basin]

Never. Hades 2 is a hoax created by epic games

[little mason]

hades 2 is just dlc from hades 1

[molten lynx]

idk were to ask this but how do i give hades nectar? i have all the keepsakes ecsept for one

[covert badge]

he has no mood for partying rn wait until 1.0

[broken glen]

It’s been a while since I’ve played hades 1, so you’ll most likely get better answers in #h1-discussion , but from what I remember you may need to get the credits roll first (10 cleared runs)

[molten lynx]

i mean in h2 were he is chained up in tarturus

[broken glen]

Oh, sorry…

He doesn’t currently have a keepsake. Which keepsake slot are you missing?

[molten lynx]

last one in the second row and i have given nectar to everyone else

[raven perch]

Have you gifted Heracles?

[crude dragon]

There's one last Olympian you haven't met yet, make it all the way to the final surface boss

[broken glen]

That’s ||the fig leaf, unlocked by gifting to Dionysus in Olympus.||

[molten lynx]

ahhh that makes sence thank you!

[crude dragon]

Thought it was the hilt all the way on the right, not the scam leaf

[broken glen]

Oh wait you’re right

I LIED @molten lynx IT’S HERACLES’ KEEPSAKE YOU’RE MISSING

WAIT NO I LIED AGAIN

THAT’S AN OLD IMAGE

[hearty idol]

can't wait to beat granpa again

[broken glen]

Welp. Accidentally spread misinformation on the internet again. I’m so tired…

[hearty idol]

Nem will get you

[modest quartz]

mandatory time to plead for a scylla album again

[robust basin]

Nah... Mid...
We need Scylla and the sirens to go on tour!

[idle cypress]

But how am i supposed to get to the bottom of the Atlantic? I heard there were the best seats

[buoyant matrix]

sink or swim

[modest quartz]

EXACTLYYYYY

lowkey so scared that they wont add any more songs if 1.0 doesn't bring any </3

[sleek oar]

Scylla singing end credits I BELIEVE

Omg its 15seconds 🙏🙏🙏 which god do i thank for this

Maybe dio put in a good word 🤧

[raven perch]

Wait what?

Awesome!!!!

[tropic axle]

33 more hours til hades 2 releases

[raven perch]

All hail AD the people’s moderator

[toxic beacon]

DIO???

[raven perch]

That didn’t happen to me so I don’t quite know what went wrong

[prisma mountain]

Release date when

[raven perch]

Tomorrow !

[prisma mountain]

It's 2 more days for me I'm in australia 😭

[frigid idol]

hey you guys know where to get HD wallpaper?

I love the boss Prometheus

[uncut galleon]

it's exactly the same amount of time though

[frigid idol]

for me is like tomorrow, aha

[rough horizon]

There's a link in there:
https://www.supergiantgames.com/games/hades-ii
It's this one, but I'm leaving the one above too because this one might looks sus
https://downloads.ctfassets.net/5owu3y35gz1g/vRwEWq1xoN4gc0UGR7RmL/e9f5e4777450ffe0e3a475e927d46c03/Hades_II_Asset_Pack.rar

[raven perch]

It’s about 32 hours

[frigid idol]

oh thank you so much!!! 🥹

[shy charm]

the final feedback i left is so close to hitting 100 upvotes... 97

I'm starting to feel weirdly superstitious about it reaching 100 before 1.0....

Oh hell yah they changed it from 1m cooldown to 15s - way better ty

[limpid oar]

I was about to say that bottom link looks suspect as hell haha

[hollow lily]

Wow, can you believe it guys. Hades, just a day away

[tribal delta]

1 day 8 hrs

[shadow tulip]

Hades 2 tomorrow YIPPEE

[raven perch]

That’s a no, keep it clean

[hollow lily]

https://tenor.com/view/can-you-believe-guys-christmas-one-week-until-christmas-im-so-thriled-about-this-information-christmas-christmas-meme-gif-24202287

[shy charm]

its well over 24h away
31.5H away

[brave urchin]

ONE MORE DAY AND 8 HOURS, GUYS!

[glad lake]

I NEED AN ETA

1 DAY 8 HOURS GOT IT

[long totem]

I AM A 100% NOT HYPERVENTILATING OMFG IT'S SO CLOSEEE

[meager veldt]

can you believe it guys? hades 2 is just a day a way. A DAY

[robust basin]

Did you put a timer?

Nooooo!!! They removed the minute timer slowmode! Only 15 seconds now

[craggy widget]

oh huh wasn't it 5s a few days ago

[grizzled trench]

it was one minute yesterday

[robust basin]

It was glorious

[frigid monolith]

Anyone have the launch times image?

[rough horizon]

Penultimate post in #announcements

[little mason]

amazing

[empty fractal]

it be 24!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAA

[serene stone]

Does anyone know if achievements will hit retroactively, even if I were to delete the save in question and restart tomorrow?

[robust basin]

That's a difficult question. Probably not

As an example I just logged in a different game that left EA and I got the achievements only after I opened the save

[rapid iron]

does anyone have a website that has a timer ticking down til 1.0 drops? would love to be there as soon as it releases but i have no idea when (nvm it's all good )

[uncut galleon]

yeah, same for when you import a hades 1 save from switch

also, some achievements you will probably have to do again if you did them already if there's no flag or something saved for it (eg ||resurrecting the sirens||, i assume)

[serene stone]

I honestly just want to start from the getgo, and achievements are always nice to hit when you do them. So if they only hit when I'd do them, would be the best for my motivation xD

||Not that the Nemesis romance hopefully going further isn't enough motivation anyway.||

[merry whale]

achievements are retroactive ye, i think it's when u open the save file it'll insta pop them

[serene stone]

Let's hope erasing said save to start a new run in that file won't trigger it then xD

[merry whale]

i imagine it should be fine ye

[empty fractal]

dont be fooled by time! chronos must be playing tricks with us!

he wants to delay it as much as possible to prevent his inevitable doom!

[hollow lily]

https://tenor.com/view/risa-laughing-zuma-zuma-deluxe-golden-skull-gif-3978484136377413437

[opaque fjord]

For all my OCE friends, does anyone know if Hades 2 will be at PAX Aus this year?

[orchid acorn]

Unless Nintendo is and h2 is just a switch 2 demo game prob not

[sterile rapids]

Soo, what to expect from the v 1 launch? The story progession to end? so new bosses or what?

[orchid acorn]

Gameplay is like 99% finished. There are no announced gameplay mechanics coming at 1.0, but via achievements there something not currently in the game or if it is not named as such so we are expecting a secret boss equivalent from h1. Past that its a few keepsakes(2-3) but thats it

The vast majority of new content in the 1.0 release is just story

[sterile rapids]

ohhh i see. well the early access has done pretty well so iam expecting something new to play and continue to end the story.

may the moonlight guide us!

Thanks for the info pal

[hallow vault]

So yeah imma start fresh Tommorow and then i will be Obsessed with that Game

Again

Rn im busy with the First Game

Idk what goes harder in Prometheus's Fight tho

[buoyant matrix]

i am not starting fresh tomorrow i will be smacking the life out of chronos with max leveled aspects and pets and arcana and skillz 🤑

ooo slowmode is 15 seconds now, much better

[hallow vault]

Olympus aflame or wrath of the heavens

[buoyant matrix]

aflame

[hallow vault]

I wanna know what Prometheus's and Heracles's plan is

[buoyant matrix]

tomorrow ‼️

[hallow vault]

Warth of the heavens goes hard too

[tribal delta]

will there be anything extra for those who bought EA?

[orchid acorn]

no, or at least not announced.

The benefit of EA was watching how the game evolved nothing more. nothing exclusive, though in a way you could technically count the bonus kudos(prestige renamed) we will get for our final boss resources at 1.0 but thats infinitely farmable anyway.

[restive vault]

hello guys, since tomorrow or the next day after tomorrow hades 2 is finally coming out full. Is it wise to just start fresh in the day or start now? And will they be adding new content as well?

[buoyant matrix]

i have a TON of every resource saved up

[tulip plume]

Hades 2 Tommorow

[buoyant matrix]

may as well wait

[restive vault]

alright then

[buoyant matrix]

remember to stick to #h2-for-new-players when it comes, most of us here will be speedrunning all the big spoilers

[restive vault]

oh dont worry, I already beaten the game. well before the latest update so

[buoyant matrix]

oh cool you're one of us then

[orchid acorn]

See above for new content expectations, not much just mainly story

I recommend starting new personally if your save is old plus it gives you the 'intended' experience with dialogue in order(or at least mostly in order anyway) but it ultimately does not matter

[restive vault]

just kinda wanna start fresh

[tribal delta]

same

[orchid acorn]

It mostly comes down to "are you ok with regrinding" and "do you actually care about the smaller story bits you have likely forgotten"

[restive vault]

Alright then, Ill be doing that

[buoyant matrix]

ugh i do care about the little story bits but i care more about grinding so I'll have to stick with my complete file

[orchid acorn]

clearly you just cheat in the resources as you need them, as long as you could reasonable obtain them by that point :^)

why yes i DID beat the game once and have 150 nightmare, crazy idk

[buoyant matrix]

btw pronto, exactly which files do you copy and replace when making/using savestates

it works but i feel like I'm doing it wrong

[orchid acorn]

idk apparently i was always doing it wrong i always just override the whole file and then constantly did that with a backup of my actual save file

[buoyant matrix]

bruh

[orchid acorn]

yeah i like doing stuff the hard way

[limpid oar]

You copy ProfileX_Temp.sav to make a savestate, rename it to ProfileX when you want to use it

[frigid echo]

one must imagine today is tomorrow

[buoyant matrix]

which files do i delete before renaming it

[limpid oar]

The way I do it (and idk if you can do it faster) is copy the temp file somewhere else, then rename it, and then paste it back into the saves folder

It'll ask you to replace the OG ProfileX, you do that and should be good to go

[buoyant matrix]

uh so just replaces the active file, i see

ok thanks 👍

[limpid oar]

Yw!!

[wind solar]

not sure if anyone has seen this or if I'm allowed to mention it but I just saw achievements on the steam page and I took a scroll through, some of these are super exciting and I cannot wait to sink my teeth into these new challenges tomorrow!!!!!

[buoyant matrix]

you're allowed to talk since they're now publicly viewable

[scenic jungle]

Yeah, they did accidentally go up a month or so ago too thou

[wind solar]

yeah I saw them then and I was worried this was similar

[scenic jungle]

Some are a bit different now, and theres now 50 total vs 49

[buoyant matrix]

it's because they apparently added pet skins

[orchid acorn]

debatable, cause they can be "1.0 spoilers" which need tags now

[limpid oar]

I was about to ask if any of them changed, you beat me to it lmao

[orchid acorn]

2 new achievements, 1 got removed

[buoyant matrix]

wait which one was removed and what's new other than pet skin

[orchid acorn]

Lost the cleanse a shade in each region

Gained ||Customize all familiars||

Gained some prophecy i can't remember off the top of my head dark something

[limpid oar]

I feel like spoiler tagging talk about specific achievements would make sense. It's just common courtesy

[scenic jungle]

The only 2 I think are kinda spoilers is the ||Elysian glory one and the familiar one||

[orchid acorn]

Theoretically ||Golden Age||

[scenic jungle]

Yea theres some implications to this one

[buoyant matrix]

I'd rather not discuss it until I see all the "implications" myself

[orchid acorn]

Also there are multiple other new stuff that references 1.0 content which needs tags too such as

|| Silk and Spitefullness, Unfinished business||

oh and ||Hypnos waking up||

[scenic jungle]

Basically any quest thats currently unfinished

[orchid acorn]

though technically we have that in the current game we just.... can't do it? grey area

[olive citrus]

Any ideas when the patch notes will drop? Only at launch?

[orchid acorn]

Launch

[buoyant matrix]

they usually do yes

[scenic jungle]

Same time as the update

[orchid acorn]

Likely a few minutes AFTER launch tbh. Really just depends if the patch notes are already done ,which they have said the updates been done and not touched for a few days

[limpid oar]

Greg is afk, he's 100% in Word typing them up as we speak

[scenic jungle]

I am going in with overall lower expectations because we basically have everything gameplay wise in the game outside a few keepsakes that we know of, but I am curious how they are gonna go about every plot point that is left to cover in the main story

[orchid acorn]

ignore them

i think a lot of people are overestimating whats left to cover. Like people think heracles and prom are going to have some big arc and in reality i think its done lmoa

the arc was mel learning to not be a snitch

[buoyant matrix]

i want to bath with skelly

[scenic jungle]

I honestly thought prom was gonna be a bigger deal until this update where it already leaves me with questions as to why Mel doesnt even rat him out lol, so you probably are right

[limpid oar]

Me too now that you mentioned it

[buoyant matrix]

yeah i was flabbergasted by the ||heracles betrayal|| reveal i wish they build deeper into it

[scenic jungle]

Skelly hot springs art is the true epilogue

[buoyant matrix]

it's in the bingo board!!

[olive citrus]

I love reading the patch notes before playing, I wish they came out first

[orchid acorn]

same but in a way its for the best

if i had patch notes i could be complaining about all the stuff that didnt get changed despite feedback when if it drops at the same time as the update im distractded by the new shiny

[limpid oar]

I'll get to read them during the download probably, my internet is slow af

[orchid acorn]

no medea nerf
all is right in the world

[buoyant matrix]

please don't change the axe i was NOT familiar with mel axe's game after the buff, i was blinded by the vow of wards

[orchid acorn]

why would you be opposed to any buff to almost anything

[limpid oar]

Tbh the buff made me even more likely to pick Than over Mel than I was already

[orchid acorn]

even if you find the weapon good, now its better

[buoyant matrix]

it'd become too easy 🙄

[buoyant matrix]

you're missing out then ‼️

[limpid oar]

I won't deny it's probably got some heavy hits rn, slow melee weapons just don't match my personal preference in general

They could buff it to be the new Medea and I'd be meh about Mel axe (unless I went with the attack speed stack build to make it more like than but that relies too much on hammer rng so it's cringe)

[bleak viper]

Will 1.0 be a midnight launch or drop latter in the day?

[polar abyss]

#announcements have the launch time in each time zone

[limpid oar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/456894163292520448/1418325174171730140/GlobalLaunchTimes_01.png?ex=68d4f600&is=68d3a480&hm=f8b4de0aa42b6e7a387f6793faf9c78d0bc4de8e441fb81c7dffd16e396664e2&

[bleak viper]

Thank yall I’m hella blind

[limpid oar]

Ayo y'all should click Creamson's profile and see their discord name 👀

[buoyant matrix]

woah I'm sure he'd enjoy playing hades 2 the videogame

[limpid oar]

Do you think he's gonna get world second 67 fear because he likes Medea so much?

[buoyant matrix]

maybe he's gonna get the world's second 67 fear because he likes circe so much 😳

[polar abyss]

Pizza, I know you said the grind will stop but how far have you gotten with Mel Axe?

**at 62 Fear

[buoyant matrix]

pb was chronos p3 at 60 fear, haven't tried 62 yet

[polar abyss]

Ah. I see

[buoyant matrix]

erebus is free, most of the challenge will be in oceanus

UR scylla was already hard at 60, it'll be even harder with void2

[limpid oar]

Erebus free? Yeah you definitely took wards off didn't you

[fervent crane]

So Hades releases tmrw at 6pm in Germany? 😭

[buoyant matrix]

yes

62 will be wards0 void2

[polar abyss]

Why not 63 for Judgement?

[buoyant matrix]

62 is already judgement

[polar abyss]

Oh wait, yeah… cause Void 3 is 6 Grasp. And that’s worse.

[buoyant matrix]

planning to take death, huntress and persistence for 8 grasp

may replace persistence with something else

[limpid oar]

If i do ever make myself play Mel axe 62 I think I'll just try the "droplet start and pray" strat

Surely I'll get room1 rapid slash right??

[bleak viper]

Look circe is definitely a hottie but not hit enough to go through the pain of 67 fear ZD

I saw circe for the first time and my jaw dropped

[buoyant matrix]

have you seen medea

[orchid acorn]

wasn't circe like in the running for 67. it was like medea/circe/mel staff i think

[buoyant matrix]

yeah but regardless of aspect, 67 is still ridiculously hard and needs grinding

[limpid oar]

Next clear is gonna be Supay trust

[fervent crane]

I was so looking forward to the Switch release tmrw. Now that I know it's only at 6pm I'm kinda bummed... 🙁

[orchid acorn]

maybe with a buff at 1.0 lmao

[buoyant matrix]

circe is 100% capable of clearing 67, you just need someone grinding it for hours a day everyday

[limpid oar]

I've actually not seen a soul mention Supay for the past few weeks, is the aspect still in the game?

[orchid acorn]

would unseen release supay have a chance at 67?

[dense venture]

Does anyone makes a new save for 1.0 ?

I fear the storyline would be out of whack if I am continuing from EA save

[buoyant matrix]

supay is definitely one of the aspects in the game

[limpid oar]

Uhhh there's no way it meets the timer is there? Supay start has always been incredibly slow

[orchid acorn]

The game is designed to continue from basically any point. You may have dialogue out of order, or way past when you "should" have unlocked it if its new dialogue for earlygame stuff but you will get it.

[buoyant matrix]

it will only be slightly out of whack, don't worry

[orchid acorn]

The best experience would be to start fresh for sure, but even that will be a bit inconsistent with dialogue due to your skill level progressing faster than average

[dense venture]

Honestly fairs

[limpid oar]

I'll just play my save, but that may be because I'm attached to it

I've had it since the first day of EA, I don't want to play on another save 😠

[uncut galleon]

i'm in the same timezone and it's also not exactly a convenient time for me

look forward to friday instead!

[buoyant matrix]

i wanna keep my stats of high fear clears

[buoyant matrix]

only at 6pm? wdym? it's like 8pm around me and it's perfect

[limpid oar]

5pm is perfect for me, straight after work

[sleek turtle]

When’s update

[uncut galleon]

i have to pick up my kiddo from their after school stuff at 6.30

[orchid acorn]

28 hours from now

[uncut galleon]

then i will be a bad parent and let them play h2 on switch for an hour so i can play, too

would have liked to take more time at release though

[orchid acorn]

make them walk

[buoyant matrix]

@sleek turtle here

[uncut galleon]

no

[orchid acorn]

yes

[wooden spire]

looked at the achievements now that they released

[empty fractal]

im gonna pull an all nighter once the update arrives

[wooden spire]

some of them are wild

[prisma mountain]

If zag and mel can ran through the underworld in a night then your kids can make it home by themselves

[upper rover]

Hades has this weird effect of making my time pass by wayyy faster

[empty fractal]

the chronos effect ahaha

[upper rover]

I wanted to play a bit before uni and I think I'm late now LMAO

[prisma mountain]

If you play hades 2 and silksong at the same time in you'd skip to end of humanity

[stoic echo]

sooooooooooooooo ibought the game just now but waiting for full release now T_T

[outer delta]

Do we know if achievments auto unlock or do I have to start a new file?

[robust basin]

Yes they do

[orchid acorn]

repeatable = not retroactive was the word a long time ago, and how h1 worked

[robust basin]

The panic is real. You probably made a smart decision

[orchid acorn]

skelly statues are one time per file so retroactive.
beat erebus is repeatable

[outer delta]

Okay gotcha

[stoic echo]

does anyone know what time it will release ?

[orchid acorn]

but who knows could work differently

[robust basin]

18 CEST

[orchid acorn]

27 hours 37 minutes from now

[outer delta]

There's also a map in annoucements

[mystic storm]

27 hours and 45 minutes left

[digital nacelle]

is there a countdown?

[orchid acorn]

<t:1758816000:F>

[mystic storm]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-spinning-waiting-bored-chair-gif-12572632970262008618

[robust basin]

So few games do that...😔

[digital nacelle]

it says 4am on a friday... fml

[robust basin]

Ehy! Where did you take a video of me despairing over Hades 2?

[orchid acorn]

the magic of timezones

[digital nacelle]

gonna have to wait till friday afternoon

[mystic storm]

Shake my smh, the last 24 hours of waiting suck

[robust basin]

The early bird gets the worm

[digital nacelle]

Thanks for the time anyways, happy waiting all 🙂

[stoic echo]

dang thought it was today T_T

[orchid acorn]

theroetically this also works but its just gonna say a day until hours can happen <t:1758816000:R>

[orchid acorn]

not even close

[sharp nymph]

man even when tomorrow comes its like a whole day stilll 🙁

[robust basin]

Sorry... I assumed tomorrow was implied

[robust basin]

You are an eastern dweller aren't you?

[meager veldt]

should i wait till nov for physical

[robust basin]

For which machine?

[meager veldt]

switch

[sharp nymph]

oh , erm that will be a no

[meager veldt]

dont wanna buy twice but i wanna finish the game 😭

[robust basin]

Then I don't understand. Today is Wednesday, tomorrow is Thursday, and the game comes out on Thursday. So are you saying it is Tuesday for you today?

[sharp nymph]

no , so like ill wake up 2omorrow and then still have to wait the whole day - ( the whole day being till 5 pm

[buoyant matrix]

8pm-ish for me!!

[wooden spire]

6pm here, right when I get off work

[sharp nymph]

stupiud passage of time

[robust basin]

Ah lol!😅
I was thinking it was something like 2AM like for An Hero then it would have made sense probably

[jaunty marsh]

17:00 for me.

[robust basin]

SOOOOON

[buoyant matrix]

28 hours

[robust basin]

27 h 27 m

[sharp nymph]

so i have that long to crack 32 UW - 🙁 gotta be real, I cant see it

[robust basin]

Have you cracked 20 fear?

[sharp nymph]

ive done 24 surface yestersay!

32 is really a step up tho tbh

[wooden spire]

what setup are you runnning ?

[robust basin]

Ah, then you can do it. Just search for a build you find comfortable

[robust basin]

Well, step by step. One frenzy at a time.
One void at a time.

[sharp nymph]

i like to use whatever wep is thirst, apart from Hammer cos i SUCK at it lol

[robust basin]

Well... Time to play smartly and plan your builds! If you can do 24 fear with no plans you are clearly skilled

[sharp nymph]

i am a big fan of coat/daggers tho

[fervent crane]

Well I have so days off so I was looking forward to playing tmrw morning

[spark steppe]

6pm for my time zone

[robust basin]

I don't know the current meta, but you can check a couple of recent videos by haelian and try to replicate his builds!

[cursive kayak]

noon for my time zone, im excited

[karmic depot]

Idk if this question is being asked a lot or not, but do we have any confirmation on whether save data will be carried over in 1.0 or if all of itll be erased?

[wooden spire]

it will be carried over

[robust basin]

yes it will. you will only lose the last bosses drop that will become cosmetics money

[orchid acorn]

the onyl thing erased at 1.0 is the final boss drops, those are auto converted to cosmetic currency.

[wooden spire]

I wonder what will happen for those of you who keep playing on their old savefile, will you get dialogues referring events that happens nights ago, or just miss out on those dialogues entirely ?

[robust basin]

the first one

[orchid acorn]

the same thing that has happened in literally every update that has added story dialogue(every update), out of context dialogue like you say

[robust basin]

it has already happened.
Like ||Nem complaining about Cerbie|| and other stuff

[wooden spire]

yeah I figured

[karmic depot]

Im probably gonna start a new one tbh, experiencing the entire game completely sounds best to me. I just wanna keep my old one so its easier to 100%

[robust basin]

if I had the skill to kill Time on my first run I would start a fresh file too

[wooden spire]

I asked because I wasn't sure if it would be possible to "bypass" some triggers (like a new dialogue for moros when he arrrives at the crossroad or whatever)

[orchid acorn]

there is very few dialogue you can literally bypass and never have. such as the fresh file night 1 clear

[robust basin]

it is highly unlikely. If it were to happen it is probably a bug, but one that is very hard to catch

[scenic jungle]

Im gonna start fresh so things that I havent seen in a long time are more fresh in my mind, plus to experience how they've changed progression in past updates

[polar abyss]

I think I can answer this. Here’s what I think the best weapons are for doing 32 Fear UW;
Staff: Circe (Smolder Ring + Toula, go for Pyro Technique and possibly Glamour Gain + Burning Desire later on)
Blades: Morrigan (Flame / Nova Strike. Former also wants Pyro Technique and possibly Burning Desire, but also can use Final Slice)
Torch: Moros (Hera Attack + Zeus Special. Grab Flood or Born Gain to get Magick)
Axe: Charon. I actually have a guide to Charon from 0-50 Fear on Mobalytics, so go see that for an extremely in depth view. Alternative is Nergal, which is probably better, but Nergal’s healing bit may cause someone to be too risky with attacks
Skull: Medea. You all know the build. Otherwise, take Hel and spam Scorch Attack
Coat: Nyx. Yet another scorch weapon. This time on Special

[orchid acorn]

there are variants of dialogue depending on what you do

an example in hades 1 was talking to charon before buying anything or after buying something

[wooden spire]

i'm gonna 100% all over again because I maxed my savefile before the ressource rebalance

[robust basin]

@sharp nymph ^ Read here and take notes!

[haughty hill]

can people please point to #h2-builds-and-combat rather than reccing haelian

youtube builds are about 100x less useful

[robust basin]

going through that channel is a nightmare. Searching YT videos is a lot more lean

[verbal rampart]

(Not related but your profile pic is...well, it's dare)

[polar abyss]

Oh… right. I mean to be fair, clearing 32 Fear UW IS a Hades 2 discussion. More related than most of the talks about Silksong anyway.

[haughty hill]

you can just like, ask a question in it...?

[robust basin]

dude this isn't about me

[haughty hill]

I mean if you choose to take offence at me saying that pointing people directly to specifically Haelian's youtube channel for builds is just kind of bad advice that is, I think, about you

[scenic jungle]

What's wrong with Haelian

[robust basin]

why are you telling me to ask a question in the channel? I really don't understand

[robust basin]

I think his point is that a conversation in the builds' channel is more productive than a single YT video

[haughty hill]

I'm not, I'm asking you to point people to discussion channels rather than saying 'yeah just check out a haelian video' because the latter is bad advice

[polar abyss]

I guess I get it. There’s a lot of videos, so pointing to the channel instead of a very specific example video isn’t great.

[lucid bronze]

haelian is a for fun guy

[scenic jungle]

I mean he runs 32 fear

[lucid bronze]

he says this himself

[scenic jungle]

Its not like his builds are terrible lol

[haughty hill]

to list an incomplete set of reasons as to why

• haelian's videos are content farms maybe like 1 in 8 of those vids is designed for the purpose you are recommending them for rather than entertainment

• a singular build is not going to help you much unless you roll those exact boons and Haelian isn't big on unpacking the mechanics of making builds Every Single Video

• there's like half a dozen other H2 content creators that do the same, many of which are better players than he is, you don't need to default to him

• again, single-build-vids don't really teach you how to build at all

[unreal comet]

hey guys a quick question for tomorrow, I finished going down but not quite going up, should I open up a new save from tomorrow on or do I not miss any additional stuff even if I keep playing my half-finished save?

[robust basin]

I think he beat 52, Yet he is no foolish, but it is not about that I think

[lucid bronze]

he just plays fun/silly builds most of the time

he’s a good player but the majority of his content isn’t supposed to be educational

[polar abyss]

No, he cleared a 55 fear run on both sides. I know this cause one video was a Surface PB higher than Boated’s Surface PB at release.

[orchid acorn]

99% of his videos are literally something where he set out a goal and did it that run or not.

[orchid acorn]

wasn't he running a 50f a few weeks ago and wasn't able to do it or something

[robust basin]

You won't miss anything. At worst there would be some dialogue that should have happened before that will happen after, but aside for that nothing will be different

[polar abyss]

You have to be more specific

[robust basin]

I think he beated Boated's PB on the surface

[haughty hill]

tbh everyone fails 50f sometimes

[robust basin]

that almost makes me believe i can do it lol

[haughty hill]

Haelian is decent at the game but it's not incorrect to say that his fans think he's a t0 player a la mynt and foolish and he isn't he's like t1-t2

[scenic jungle]

Im pretty sure he did a few clears for some videos

[orchid acorn]

don't got anything more specific, just know a few weeks ago i tuned in and saw him attempting 50f i think and he died like 3 runs, i wanna say he was doing it for a few days but i don't remember

[polar abyss]

Ok…

[lucid bronze]

i also think this discord warps people’s perception of how difficult this game is

[robust basin]

you mean high fear?

[haughty hill]

it does, and to be clear haelian is still better than tbh most everyone in this channel including the sweats

[orchid acorn]

😭

[haughty hill]

but he gets cast as the best player by his fans (never by him, mind, I have zero beef with haelian) because he's the most well-known youtuber a lot and it's just not true

[lucid bronze]

the game is not designed to be played at 50 fear and you’re never encouraged to do that

anything above 32 fear is completely optional for the small % of players who are really good and like the hard challenge

[robust basin]

there is a guy or two here that are unbeatable... 🤣

[mossy tangle]

TOMORROW, PARTY PEOPLE.

[buoyant matrix]

the game is designed to be played at 62 fear and you have all the necessary tools to do it

[mossy tangle]

We'll finally find out whether Zag has a beard or not

[scenic jungle]

Zag would grow a goatee

[polar abyss]

I feel like I slightly disagree. There’s been some changes to so many Surface enemies, probably because people hated fighting them with super high vows.

[haughty hill]

this makes sense it's like how elden ring is designed to be beaten without summoning

[robust basin]

that was Hades 1. It is unclear if no such plans have been made for H2. Everyone say it is a lot better on that front.

[polar abyss]

The expectation for players is to at-least clear 32 for in-game rewards (the Statue), and any higher have tools but is really challenging.

[robust basin]

is 62f the pre void max fear level?

[haughty hill]

ye

[polar abyss]

Yes. 62 is all but Void

[lucid bronze]

like even 40 is a massive step up from 32

[haughty hill]

well you can do 62s with void it's just why would you

[mossy tangle]

wait, void?

[scenic jungle]

The one that takes your arcana points

[robust basin]

void. the hated fear.
Tbf it makes sense...

[polar abyss]

Pizza was doing Mel Axe 62, with Void 2 instead of Wards 2.

[lucid bronze]

past 32 you’re forced to start turning on really annoying vows or have to turn up the existing ones that aren’t too bad much higher

[mossy tangle]

Ah, that one.

[polar abyss]

He said he can’t do it by 1.0, but I think he’ll continue the grind after 1.0.

[mossy tangle]

yeah I think 32f is the limit for me, I'm not willing to go higher than that

[robust basin]

yeah... I had to have someone tell me "frenzy is H A R D" to get that I should turn it off

[scenic jungle]

I probably could but I dont find it very fun

[mossy tangle]

tbf I already unlocked max aspects, I don't really need to do fear runs unless I want to

[orchid acorn]

checking his stream history looks like he died vs prom at 55f and stopped. the title is moving up to 55 so i assume he won the 50f run

[buoyant matrix]

planning to do wards0 void2 with mel axe

[robust basin]

with what build?

[wintry dagger]

maybe you really want gold

[verbal rampart]

Haelian is really that bad?

[buoyant matrix]

apollo attack and either psychic whirlwind or dashing heave

one of those hammers is necessary for good boss damage

[robust basin]

I think there is just some hate because he is the poster boy and a lot of other creators that use less humour are overshadowed and that is it

[robust basin]

that sounds so fun

[mossy tangle]

I have no issue with Haelian.