h2-discussion

[mellow inlet]

Yikes

[orchid acorn]

its not exactly.... hard to match that

but its a barrier a lot of outdated pcs run into

and a notable barrier between h1 and h2

[frosty nest]

I mean I used to play hades 1 on a 14yr old hardware

Never lagged once

[orchid acorn]

yeah difference is h2 has upgraded reqs

[normal mountain]

Is there a lore or cannon reason why dino refuses to acknowledge typhon or the fact everythings going to 💩 ?????

[wise ledge]

He is way too drunk for that

[orchid acorn]

i assume you mean dio

[frosty nest]

Hmm

[normal mountain]

yes

[orchid acorn]

and he acknowledges it, he just acknowledges that its not his palce

[normal mountain]

So he's choosing to ignore it?

[orchid acorn]

Melinoë : "So you do know things are dire! I thought you weren't paying any attention, burying your head in the sand and tuning out whatever you've no wish to hear."

Dionysus: "You got it half right. See, I don't like to worry about the things I can't control! Wine, I can control. The quality of this feast, I can control! But all the in-fighting? Heh. Plenty of other gods who specialize in that."

[wise ledge]

Yep

[frosty nest]

Why is an rtx 2050 the recommended gpu for hades 2?

Is it that heavy

[mossy tangle]

lol no

[normal mountain]

I read that in dio's voice lol

[orchid acorn]

i mean its literally his voice line so you should

[normal mountain]

i have rtx 3050 so it's fine

[mossy tangle]

you can easily achieve 144 fps with a RX 590

on max settings too.

[frosty nest]

Isn't that overkill?

[mossy tangle]

so yeah, any modern card will do.

[normal mountain]

not really, I can play pretty modern games on it. never had an issue.

[frosty nest]

Something tells me my 4gb ddr3 ram i5 3230m gt 710m laptop would've ran hades 2 at a solid 60fps low graphics

[normal mountain]

Hades 2 runs at whatever frame rate it's set at.

[wise ledge]

Tbf 2050 is an outdated GPU you won't even find on sale nowadays unless you really look for it. And 3050 is $200

[mossy tangle]

I'm looking to upgrade next year

[orchid acorn]

google is telling me, no it won't

hades 2, unless something has changed literally cannot run without dx12_1 or higher iirc

[normal mountain]

google isn't always accurate, it uses AI for it's answers and AI isn't always right.

[orchid acorn]

possibly i don't care enough to dig into it more

but if it doesn't get the dx the game will just error out

[mossy tangle]

so any dx12 card will do the trick.

[frosty nest]

It said the same about hades 1

[normal mountain]

hades 2 will run on a potato. it's not a heavy game, graphics wise at all.

[orchid acorn]

difference is the game CAN run but it doesn't support it if there sisuses

hades 1 doesn't have the hard requirement that hades 2 does

[normal mountain]

hades 1 will run on thoughts and prayers

[orchid acorn]

you'd error out with this in hades 2 https://preview.redd.it/505t72vcxhvc1.png?width=1024&auto=webp&s=b18ab8d516e667c46cb0b61adcd81027c4a858b6

[mossy tangle]

my old GTX 550 wouldn't run it, for example.

[normal mountain]

have you turned it off and on again ?

[frosty nest]

The geforce 710m supports dx12 tho

[wise ledge]

gt 710m does support direct x 12, so in theory it could work

[orchid acorn]

then google was wrong was just a quick search

i just know a bunch of people had that issue circa ea launch

[wise ledge]

No, wait

[orchid acorn]

and were complaining their 50 year old gpu wouldn't work

[normal mountain]

i always assume google is wrong in the first instance.

[orchid acorn]

when it did for h1

[wise ledge]

DirectX 12 (11_0)
What the hell is wrong with people who make these naming conventions

[normal mountain]

Hades 1 will run on glass held together with tape

[wise ledge]

So no, 710M has 11_0, but hades 2 wants 12_0

[frosty nest]

Bruh

[orchid acorn]

thats what i saw via google

[mossy tangle]

yeah at some point you'll need to upgrade

[orchid acorn]

but didnt want to dig into ti

[frosty nest]

My ego still thinks it can run hades 2 nfl

Ngl*

[mossy tangle]

I still run my good ol' RX 590

[frosty nest]

It ran most modern games at 50-60fps

Somehow with 4gb ddr3 ram

[mossy tangle]

if all else fails slap a bazzite in it and try running it with Proton

[spare tinsel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/386625846409953281/1419062059278139432/image.png?ex=68d06407&is=68cf1287&hm=b9afba972b4c3798e7abbf7d71a471c5ad56a11e334a3ff36ec1aacdcb7aefca&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/386625846409953281/1419062059739385866/image.png?ex=68d06407&is=68cf1287&hm=42f2b844715c55d1723e88aad14539bd056b37d88d94ec70b75e2c6d219553cb&
really wish i had the Hermes legendary right now, but alteast i can buy literally everything lmaa

[mossy tangle]

damn, you're mad liquid

[hollow lily]

Broke ass mfer get a new PC, cheap ass

[raven perch]

Hermes legendary is not great

[spare tinsel]

nah it is

[hearty fog]

If you've got literally thousands of Gold, maybe.

[spare tinsel]

look above 4head

i literally have 4000 coins

[mossy tangle]

get a McJob bozo, upgrade your s***

[normal mountain]

lol

LMAO

[hollow lily]

Bro???

Tf

[mossy tangle]

lol

lmao even

[normal mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/mhi’ya-miya-miyha-iman-le-gif-12343990411991729820

[hollow lily]

It's a gif??????

[mossy tangle]

must be something with the gif name

[hollow lily]

Anyway, sht ain't Leather

[normal mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-out-loud-laugh-ridiculous-hilarious-lolz-gif-17376550074772904877

carry on this internet argument is funny asf

https://tenor.com/view/bromancave-stickupboys-stickupmusic-handpags-at50paces-50-gif-23405614

😂

dudes writing an essay judging by how long their typing

[buoyant matrix]

what is happening

[normal mountain]

no idea, it's gone quiet

[hollow lily]

Who's offering me a side job?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1296906014486040588/1368703385993216110/ferrari_fans.gif

[normal mountain]

[wise ledge]

I even checked the integrated graphics, Intel HD Graphics 4000 only supports 11.1 (11_0)

So turns out DirectX has two modifiers - version (like 11, 11.1, 12, etc), which is software version, it has better APIs and stuff like that, and then you have underscore versions - like 11_0, 12_0, 12_1, etc. These are hardware feature levels. So DirectX 12 11_0 is more optimised software, but with old hardware that doesn't support new features - meaning old stuff from DirectX 11 would work better because DirectX 12 optimised the software, but new stuff introduced in 12 won't work because your hardware doesn't support it

So yeah. Hades 2 wants DirectX v12 with hardware level 12_0 (new software + hardware that supports newer features).
710M supports v12 software, but only has 11_0 features (so no new stuff, just optimisations), and Intel HD Graphics 4000 (integrated graphics card from i5 3230m) only supports DirectX v11 with hardware level (11_0)
Meaning the only way to play Hades 2 on that laptop would be adding an external GPU, that would be reeeeally problematic on such old hardware

[normal mountain]

danm, that dio side room music is gonna camped in my head for the rest of the night now. lol

[limpid folio]

cant wait for melinoe to reach the house, beat chronos, and go "im hades 2"

and then the credits roll

[normal mountain]

it'll be super anti-climatic

she'll find out frinos was the one behind it all

[wise ledge]

First we Hades, then we Two. Let's Hades 2!

[normal mountain]

I've had a feeling all along that we'll find out everything happened because of someone on the inside

[wise ledge]

All because of Dusa

[normal mountain]

and dora

[wise ledge]

She tried to dust off his remains

[normal mountain]

and dora is a spy sent by prometheus

[raven perch]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTZjMDliOTUyc2MzOHMxb3NiZWxydXYyaWJxMmhkZW92ejh3enIzZjR6Z2FrZmluOCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/7oumBJCE7HKzSoYFk7/giphy.gif

[wise ledge]

Tbf there are theories that Zag is partly to blame because he amassed a ton of Titan Blood in one place

[raven perch]

I will kill somebody

[orchid acorn]

i can't believe u don't support that theory meow

[cursive kayak]

i believe it.

granted it’s not that zag would have known. but like. first game has you trading titan blood, second game has a titan coming back. it’s not an unreasonable theory

[raven perch]

It’s annoying

I’m not interested in a story where everything is all Zag’s fault!

He should simply not be that important

[orchid acorn]

i mean everything isn't

[cursive kayak]

it would be a very small thing at most like it doesn’t matter that much

[orchid acorn]

but partially it is. it just maybe got sped up or at bestmade his spawn location the HoH

[cursive kayak]

zag being partly responsible would not change the story at all

[raven perch]

I do not want them to spend even a fraction of a second contending with “ohhh nooo Zag you’re partly the reason you could never see your sister grow up!!! Ohhh don’t you feel so baaadd about it??”

[cursive kayak]

i sincerely doubt they’d go the melodramatic route with it like that

[raven perch]

What a waste of time and energy

[cursive kayak]

or at least I hope they don’t

[raven perch]

That would be the only reason to have him be partly responsible

[marsh spear]

Nah Zag is dumb, not stupid

[raven perch]

Because the satyrs have also been collecting blood

[lyric matrix]

I thought they already addressed this with dialogue about how Chronos still had followers slowly gathering his scattered remains

[marsh spear]

And Zag fed the blood to the weapons anyway

[wise ledge]

I have a new theory
The rank up guy is at fault

[cursive kayak]

TRUE

[wise ledge]

We gave him titan blood to rank up

And he sold it to satires

[cursive kayak]

can’t believe the betrayal…….

😔

[marsh spear]

Who?

[mortal wyvern]

Notice how melodramatic and melinoe starts the same way .....

[lyric matrix]

That wretched broker!

[full crest]

hades 2 in 5 days!!

[marsh spear]

My head went Melicopter and now I'm imagining her piloting an Apache

My head goes places

[marsh spear]

AAAAAA

[cursive kayak]

melikopter melikopter…..

[marsh spear]

I love how my brain can generate sounds in my mind to the point of almost hallucination

[oak ivy]

I just wanted to add that the second route was genuinely a huge surprise to me when I first played the early access...
it's like yes, you're right, there is a whole other exit, but it does NOT necessarily fully confirm that it's a whole other route though! In my mind I kept the possibility that the crossroads could just expand in that direction or something... maybe a proper training grounds area where you can test out a lot more things? or maybe it'd be some extra gameplay content like some sort of endless arena challenge, I don't think there is a way to know for sure..

so when Hermes told me that I should actually go to the surface it was very surprising to me lol

and it was really freaking cool!!

okay Pronto is offline, it means everyone can agree with me and enjoy my correct opinion 😌

[wise ledge]

Idk who, but I got spoiled

[cursive kayak]

it’s been more than a year but I also remember thinking it was cool. and im excited to see friend reactions

[wise ledge]

Or maybe it was just theorised on reddit, idk

[orchid acorn]

my lilac sense was tingling

[oak ivy]

wow I'm so special !!!

hehe~

[orchid acorn]

https://preview.redd.it/mgumz2q04bz41.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=4f8175c6a7b2ebba9de5a80cd1e2afbd4ebad90c me

[oak ivy]

lmaooo

those puppies are so cute though 🥺

[orchid acorn]

anyway back to sleep

[wise ledge]

Speaking of reddit
I made a poll on r/Hades2 a few days ago, whether people will start a new save for release or not
104 voted yes for a new save, 181 voted no

[cursive kayak]

it really just depends how much time you’ve sunken already and how much more you’re willing to

[wise ledge]

I don't know what I'm going to do tbh. Maybe I will get the ending on the main save and then start a new one
Otherwise both reddit and discord will be filled with spoilers

[oak ivy]

I'm continuing my current save file to binge the ending and spoil it for everyone in here 😈

[wise ledge]

Guess I will be with you lol

I will probably take some time off work, order some food and play for hours

[twin apex]

i'm so glad i don't have classes that day, i will be playing hades the entire time

unfortunately i have a paper to write that's due the day before

[mossy tangle]

I'll be at work, unfortunately

[wise ledge]

Eh, at least you have something to do other than wait :D

[twin apex]

for better or worse

[mossy tangle]

Man how long it's been since I had homework lmao

[wise ledge]

I'm so glad I didn't go to college/uni lol. Instead I have good paying remote work where I can take time off when I want

[twin apex]

i mean, i really like my major, but i have GEs to do rn which are annoying. i do think that a job in the field would be more enjoyable than other things

[hollow lily]

2 big guys

And they bust on my.... Oh wait wrong Server

[oak ivy]

How'd you find a job like that without any degree though?

[dusty tapir]

I missed the conversation but I really like Hexes

Especially Wolf Howl

My #1 build is Artemis daggers, as many increased omega attack + cost boons and hammers as I can find, and full juiced up wolf howl

you are basically never on screen

and when you are you are charging omega attack and just block if you get hit

[elfin heron]

u can get alot of jobs without a degree

[oak ivy]

Yeah but usually people go to school to have better opportunities, otherwise no one would go to colleges or unis lol

To have both a good paying and a remote job

[dusty tapir]

I also, like, enjoyed Uni...? But I had the family and some income to support it so

[elfin heron]

ye ik but apprenticeships are there aswell they offer good stuff aswell

[dusty tapir]

Plus im in Canada and its much less extortionate to do post secondary

[oak ivy]

Once again.. If it was that simple, surely more people would ditch colleges, right?

[wise ledge]

Well, while others were preoccupied studying hard for their future, I just did what I wanted with computers, got a ton of real experience with cool stuff, and by the time I finished school I was capable enough to work as a programmer on mid level, not even an entry level. So after a year on freelance one of my clients just suggested I come work for them full time. Since then I worked for ~3 years with them as the tech guy at first and lead developer later when they hired a few more guys to help me. Then I moved to another country and found another, better paying job there.

[elfin heron]

alot do for that reason

[oak ivy]

Wow crazy

[elfin heron]

half of ppl dont even use their degree with the jobs they currently have

[dusty tapir]

But for real tho, the only hexes I realllly dont like are the orbital laser one, because it takes way too long to drop and the one that summons an enemy because, well, half the time they dont do anything

[wise ledge]

So yeah, as long as you know your stuff, you don't really need college or courses. I just did a ton of different stuff I wanted to do just for myself - websites in different tech stacks, linux server administration, bots, desktop programs, some DIY electronics like a nyxie clock or custom VR controllers, robotics, attempts at gamedev, all that interesting stuff. By the time I was 18 I had more hands on experience than 99% of graduates

[oak ivy]

Oh hell yeah

[dusty tapir]

oh, and I dont like Morph, not for any particular reason though I should probably select it more often

Do I have it right that you are more likely to roll hexes you use more often?

[wise ledge]

I actually quite like morph. It's probably one of my top 3, together with the water and meteor

[dusty tapir]

What are the buffs it rolls? Never seen the godsent version

[wise ledge]

Never heard about that

[wise ledge]

I think I see godsents like 2/3 times

[oak ivy]

No, it's completely random

[dusty tapir]

I think it was something Selene said, might be misremembering

Well, I almost never click morph, should jsut check the wiki

[oak ivy]

If anything, it would be the other way around because SGG love to force you to experiment with new stuff

They hate when you use the same thing all the time lol

[wise ledge]

Btw, the wiki sucks

[normal mountain]

nah, this is just the internet in general

[wise ledge]

Why does it have so little info on everything

You would think such a big community would fill and update it quickly

[dusty tapir]

Its a fandom wiki, they usually kinda suck

I use a plugin that automatically redirects me to non-Fandom wikis

[normal mountain]

Which is why they nurfed heph to oblivion, i can't think of any good boons he has apart from his volcanic strike boons.

[robust basin]

Connections

[oak ivy]

Omg foolish hiii

[fading knoll]

Game is still in early access noone wants to update something so subject to change

[dusty tapir]

true

Does have godsent info though

[oak ivy]

I saw you're trying to break into silksong speedrubning too? 👀

[fading knoll]

Maybe if I ever find a spare hour in the day

[oak ivy]

Neat!

[wise ledge]

Eh, the patches are not that frequent imho. Maybe at some point I should start contributing myself.

[meager garden]

the game is also kind of large

[wise ledge]

It is, but even details on core concepts and stuff like that are not well documented. I can't remember what exactly was that, but I looked for info like that at least two times recently and haven't found anything useful

[broken glen]

I find more luck asking questions in here than trying to find info on the wiki

[wise ledge]

Exactly

[broken glen]

I’m sure contributions will pick up when 1.0 drops (as people won’t be afraid of their contributions being in vain)

[oak ivy]

tip #1: don't use Excellence and Unseen

[broken glen]

They’re the ultimate beginner traps

Excellence might not be unusable if it didn’t discourage infusion boons from spawning

[dusty tapir]

Would be real nice if Unseen generated mana more consistently, like with the actually mana hungry weapons like the torches where you want to hold left click all the time (which turns off unseen)

But alas I already went over this in Feedback months ago

[ivory flare]

shout out to all the OGs who beat both runs on at least some heat

[broken glen]

At the very least a change to “you use -x% magick” would be nice

Only other thing that does that is a chaos boon

And specific hammers

[dusty tapir]

I was using the torches, I got both the Poseidon-Hera Duo and got my omega speed so low I think it was firing with every attack

and even with* a strong mana boon (I dont remember which) I really* wished Unseen worked in that situation

[raven perch]

That would not be good because of hexes

[broken glen]

True

[hearty fog]

Kinda wish there were a contingency for that exact situation, actually.

I really like Chaos Talent, but I basically only ever see it when I've already got an invested Hex.

[broken glen]

Yeah magick reduction shouldn’t count against hexes

[bright fern]

finally unlocked greatest gift of gaia LFG

[mint quarry]

So, I just got here and wanted to post some feedback only to find that the feedback channel is closed :/

Honestly, my only gripe so far is a minor UI one

No way to track relationship with the various characters

Like, in Hades I they had a heart metre in the codex

Would be nice to have that back

[wise ledge]

But we do have that?

In the codex. Or, well, the book of the dead or how is it called now

[mint quarry]

Wher? Because it's not on the character entries

I'm literally looking at it right now

[wise ledge]

It is ._.
Maybe it's unlockable, idk

[mint quarry]

Oh I hope not ._.

Okay, was going blind to avoid spoilers, but this bugged me enough to google it

It's an unlock

[dusty tapir]

one of my worries about the game when I try and get friends to play it is that they will get annoyed with certain features not being present not knowing they are crafts

[mint quarry]

Yup. As I just proved, that will happen lol

To be fair to myself, I've just beaten Boss #2 and it still isn't available to me. And it's kind of a basic bit of functionality.

[dusty tapir]

Yeah but you are clearly a tryhard like the rest of us to want to know that info this early 😛

How many runs to beat Scylla?

[storm glen]

1

[storm glen]

im pretty sure i got the codex after beating the final boss

its kind of ridiculous

[dusty tapir]

I did some night 1 practice and it took an embarrasing number of runs for me to beat Scylla on a clean save

[storm glen]

i suppose i will find out how hard that is when 1.0 drops

base staff is a lot better now though so it doesnt seem that bad

[mint quarry]

Just a returning fan of the first game 😛 Not gonna deny the tryhard bit tho

3. 2 with staff, 3rd with twin blades, mostly Hestia boons but also the Zeus one that gives chain lightning

[dusty tapir]

I guess the players im worried about are competitive gamers that havent played Hades before and dont know about the ease of use incantations

[storm glen]

if they havent played hades before they arent expecting anything

[dusty tapir]

I wouldnt be surprised if a experienced gamer reached the fields and went wtf I need a map how do I find everything

[storm glen]

hollow knight makes you buy those things and that games communtity insists it has no flaws im sure its fine

mel also. literally tells you to go to the golden bough

[dusty tapir]

well, once you have the incantation

[storm glen]

no she tells you it in a voice line when you enter the fields for the first time

unless they changed that so you need an enchant to use the golden boughs

[dusty tapir]

Anyway I might be over concerned because im planning to buy it for a friend that claims to not like Roguelikes

Yeah, Reviving a Mournful Husk, but wiki says you get to see it right after you first reach the fields so its only absent for the first run you go there

[storm glen]

what the hell

?????? this is the weirdest thing

[raven perch]

You’ve always needed an incantation to use the boughs

[dusty tapir]

Yeah there are a couple of incantations that give you things you normally take for granted in most games, that's my concern.

But it seems like you immediately gain access to the incantation when you run first run into the scenario when you want it and they are always cheap

The Ephyra bat cage maps is another but you know it exists before you even reach ephyra

[storm glen]

idk why the incantations there in the first place atp

maybe the feeling of making something happen does something for someone

[grizzled trench]

it has always required an incantation

just btw lol

[dusty tapir]

oh yeah no I think they got that

[lyric matrix]

A lot of things in the original required the contractor that I'm sure people take for granted now as well

[dusty tapir]

easy thing to forget after a while yeah

Like, when you guys do your first run next week your gonna feel like your tripping

[lyric matrix]

Pfft, I'm finishing my first save.
That fresh file stuff is for the youths

[dusty tapir]

Fair enough, I want the story in intended order

but I have more time than most

[lyric matrix]

hashtag handsoffmyvoidlense

[chrome plaza]

question - is the surface world finished?

is it just the underworld that is getting finished in the full release?

[bright fern]

we still have to get to the palace at the top of the summit, so both routes are getting updated in 1.0

currently it’s just the narrator giving us some kind of story before the “can time not be stopped?” scene plays

[chrome plaza]

Ah, okay

[wise ledge]

Essentially the same as the underworld

[long totem]

ngl my anxiety keeps spiking like crazy and thinking of this makes it worse😭 it feels too good to be true omg

[atomic river]

y cant i tame the dog i got the other 3 animals and the 2 encantations for it i also have treats too

[wise ledge]

IIRC there are dialogue pieces with Hecate you need to get before you can tame her

[atomic river]

bru

[wise ledge]

Hecate is the owner of the dog, so you can't just suddenly come and take her :D

[raven perch]

Well your mom’s dog is also technically your dog

[meager garden]

sometimes, sometimes not

(mom buys dog for the kid, now it's the dads dog now)

[atomic river]

do i need to like do anything with the bird or som cz i feel like ive done enough runs for her to tell me abt it

[wise ledge]

That's exactly what happened with my sister :D
She really wanted a god for a long time, so at some point mom surprise-adopted an abandoned dog from a shelter. Very soon it became apparent that the only one who will be taking care of the dog is dad

[wise ledge]

Should be just natural progression

Just read the dialogue if you see the ! marker on Hecate, don't just walk by. Some people do that.

[meager garden]

god

[long totem]

u need to interact with her in the mourning fields

[fathom lake]

Wheres the hades 2 release countdown bot?

[digital shoal]

what are some boons I should use for Artemis daggers, I mainly run hestia or Zeus stuff for them but idk what better options there are besides Aphro

[agile heart]

Just died due to the spinny tail things as Typhon was saying "HHOOOOOWWWWW" which makes me think I died as he was dying -_- man

[plain shale]

I BEAT KRONOS ATTEMPT ONE

[polar abyss]

I’d say that Thermal Dynamics or Hestia + Apollo Heph Blasts work very well. But I feel like the real stars of Artemis are the hammers. More specifically, Trick Knives (because Trick Knives is super strong on any blade), Reaper Knives, and Wicked Onslaught (reasoning for the latter two; the base power bonus is huge for crits).

[plain shale]

NOOOOO

WHAT HAPPENED TO HADES AND ZAGEREUS

I HAVE TO WAIT FOR NEXT WEEK

[meager garden]

you beat cronos! you won the game!

(there is nothing else to do, you can safely leave until the 25th)

(unless)

[polar abyss]

Don’t worry. You’re not actually waiting a week anymore

It’s less than 5 days away! Think of it as today being a Monday night, and Friday night / the weekend is just around the corner

[plain shale]

Ita so bittersweet

[meager garden]

(there is a lot more story you probably haven't seen)

(like hades, he's chilling)

[plain shale]

True

I didn’t went to the surface yet I only just beat polypheumus

[atomic river]

i have multip[le times

[plain shale]

Quick question is the oath like the pact of punishment in hades one

[merry whale]

ye

[plain shale]

Ok

Thanks

[vale basin]

Ey guys, is there something important i have to do before release?

[wise ledge]

Not really, the most important resources will be reset

All you can do is make sure you have enough of everything else for new incantations

[raven perch]

Collect every other resource if you can

[wise ledge]

And upgrade your weapons

So just normal gameplay

[vale basin]

Ok thanks! I think i got pretty much everything, will check wich resources i can still change for cosmetics or w/e

[plain shale]

Question so does your early save file will transfer in 1.0

[wise ledge]

Yes

But they reset the drops from final bosses

Everything else will be kept

[plain shale]

Can you explain in easy terms since I don’t get it

Sorry

[wise ledge]

They will remove drops you got from Chronos and Typhon from your inventory, but keep all other items

Sands of Time and whatever the Typhon drops, I don't remember

[plain shale]

So I keep the other resources like tears and pearls

[wise ledge]

Yup

And all upgrades and incantations

[bronze oak]

The final boss drops being removed is just so story beats can play out semi naturally

[wise ledge]

I wonder where the entropy will come from

[bronze oak]

Probably not even a real resource. It got removed from Dora incantation

[unkempt zodiac]

Entropy could literally just be a funny way of saying "wait for time to pass"

[hearty fog]

...Oh my god.

[unkempt zodiac]

It could also be a resource given back and forth between underworld and surface to make sure you progress the story in the right order

[hearty fog]

Greg. Not again, Greg.

[unkempt zodiac]

But I like this reason more

[wise ledge]

It would be cool if it was somehow connected to Chaos

As a more fundamental force

[unkempt zodiac]

Chaos trials unlocking story progression!! I actually wouldn't be so against that

[wise ledge]

Generating entropy by participating in fake possibilities. It even makes sense

[unkempt zodiac]

My #1 hope for launch remains being community made Chaos trials

[granite mauve]

I feel like this may be the case but I also feel like they wouldnt give it an icon if it wasnt a real resource

[unkempt zodiac]

There's been other art thats been removed I think(?) It may just be an early asset they didn't have a different purpose for

[wise ledge]

Incantations would then need some new resources. I doubt you will be able to brew Dissolution of Time with just the stuff you have on hand and sands from Chronos, it would be kinda... Underwhelming.

[plain shale]

What did supergiant do to hades one early access once 1.0 launch did they do the same thing there doing in 2

[wise ledge]

We also need to tie Hypnos into all this somehow

[unkempt zodiac]

H2 is different since you're effectively buying the ending in the house renovations tab

[granite mauve]

1.0 in hades 1 added the ending to the story and also extreme measures 4 and the charon fight

similarly to hades 2 the game ended immediately after the final boss before 1.0

[plain shale]

Oh

That’s so interesting

[granite mauve]

obviously we already have EM4 in hades 2 but we will probably get a secret boss with a lot of the community suspecting circe

[wise ledge]

Btw, I still expect "Haaaaa!" after the menu loades, like it was in the War update. Feels so weird without it.

[unkempt zodiac]

I really hope some attention is given to summit since it's easily the most empty and rushed area but I feel that time has passed 😔

[wise ledge]

I hope they add more rewards there

[gritty ingot]

On Thursday do you guys think we start with Chronos or Typhon runs?

[wise ledge]

Chronos

[raven perch]

Chronos

[granite mauve]

I think a new mini boss is likely but I will keep my expectations low

[gritty ingot]

Bet

[wise ledge]

I don't like the surface, so I'm definitely going Chronos

[raven perch]

The surface is like. Such a better designed route though

[unkempt zodiac]

i disagree

[granite mauve]

idk rift and summit don't feel better designed to me

[wise ledge]

Maybe. I just don't really like it. Idk why.

[unkempt zodiac]

surface has ephyra which is great but olympus is just alright and rift and summit stink

[gritty ingot]

I do like the surface more because of the city and getting your base build all at once

[granite mauve]

ephyra and olympus though 😍

[hearty fog]

Ephyra is awesome and Olympus is basically Elysium 2.0.

[granite mauve]

ephyra best zone in the game

[gritty ingot]

Yeah ephyra carries

[granite mauve]

and olympus has yaoi boss battle

[hearty fog]

Lots of boons and other major rewards, it's got the best song in the game, and Prometheus.

[gritty ingot]

Getting your duo/legendary before you leave first zone is sick

[unkempt zodiac]

ephyra is kinda crazy in how it by itself defines the surface

[wise ledge]

and Prometheus
Yeah, that's like the worst part of the game in general :D :D :D

[granite mauve]

sounds like somebody has bad memory

[idle crater]

i wonder how gamechanging it would be if ephyra was like, the third region for some reason

[hearty fog]

I've got a few gripes about his boss fight, but it is a cool fight and I think he's one of the most interesting characters in the game.

[unkempt zodiac]

prometheus is awesome except the memory minigame sucks it kills the pacing so hard

[wise ledge]

I do, yeah

[long totem]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280383240280215614/1419159473838358549/image.png?ex=68d0bec1&is=68cf6d41&hm=3c8d88c5da3753ad81a7de7236c3dcabf88a7e7720a05d48e2ccdbef57d6192d&

i fcking hate Prom's fight. I always need so much hp

[wise ledge]

But I don't like his moveset too

And yes, I tried all the stuff people come up with for the memory game and watched videos on how to dodge him

[long totem]

Typhon is like. so easy. Chronos should've hired p´rom as the final boss lmfao

[granite mauve]

I feel like the arena should be covered in fire on the edges for the memory game so you dont have to run across the whole field, and the memory game should be rapid fire instead of slow

[wise ledge]

Exactly

[long totem]

the memory game is easy tho for me is his goshdarned movesets

[granite mauve]

typhon gets tired from having to climb a mountain every 48 hours

[wise ledge]

I just learned to dodge the memory game, so it's not much of a problem for me too now

[long totem]

sure kick 20 hp out of me and then send a flame to my face okay😭

[unkempt zodiac]

i think the memory game should be made easier but happen while the boss is still attacking

[long totem]

OH HELL NO

[idle crater]

thats just unrivaled prom

[wise ledge]

So the rivals fight :D

[unkempt zodiac]

the rivals fight literally does it so much better because it doesnt kill the pacing

only problem with the rivals fight is my memory isnt that good but thats a different issue

[merry whale]

normal fight should bring in aetos

[unkempt zodiac]

honestly i think the memory phase could be cut from the fight entirely and i wouldnt feel like the game got any worse

[granite mauve]

the memory game wouldnt kill the pacing if the flames struck while you were still being shown the pattern

[wise ledge]

Yes please

[idle crater]

but what if i want to beat the crap out of heracles 🙁

[long totem]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280383240280215614/1419160577288306823/2Q.png?ex=68d0bfc8&is=68cf6e48&hm=627e5e688e6699b758be9d0486a8f9111a05e271d57e3f99d1e5ae618349bc9c&

Having to avoid herc and the memory game has me like this

[unkempt zodiac]

i feel that

[wise ledge]

Just cut the Prom completely and make me fight the Typhon twice

[granite mauve]

heracles should use his weapon as a baseball bat and fling aetos at you 🦅

[empty abyss]

hey uh guys. Genuinely why the hades is rival Cerberus just roided up Radahn & Miquellester

the dawg just does every thing

[rapid osprey]

that's a bit far 😭 Cerbie is just playing aggressively

[hearty fog]

Unrivaled Cerberus is the dog in "He got that dog in him."

[empty abyss]

you dont play with a backhanded slap to the rear. Thats genuine lethality

[rapid osprey]

the backhand was so evil when I was first getting used to the fight lol. It got me every time

[empty abyss]

and the fact is why the hell is the dog comboing? That should be illegal by the three fates

[sharp geyser]

is it know if hades 2 comes to game pass as hades 1

[rapid osprey]

He's just built different ig

[merry whale]

backhand is evil but iirc he only does that in phase 1 so it's a non issue

[rapid osprey]

he does it in p2 as well

[merry whale]

ah

[rapid osprey]

a bit less often but still

[merry whale]

ye i rarely see it happen anyway, easy to react to

[empty abyss]

nuh uh

[merry whale]

i say, used to frenzy 2

[rapid osprey]

yeah its just hard at first but it's one of his easier openings

[merry whale]

mhm

it's basically like anticipating "ah he'll probably do backhand very soon"

similar to how on release poly's grab was super dodgeable, only for p11 to gut it

[rapid osprey]

poly's grab was a bit sketch on frenzy 2 tho

but now its just a little too free

they definitely overnerfed it

[merry whale]

ye old grab was insane but it was also mega anticipation move where u kinda feel like 0.5s before he makes a move that u run away

it's same thing w typhon where if ur right in front of typhon's face after one of his attacks, chin attack will probably be queued and used very shortly

i get why they nerfed it tho, but still it was kinda fun to keep watch for

[crude dragon]

Backhand is always the opposite corner from the paw he slams, so it's at least consistent

[merry whale]

ah wait is this backhand like a standalone move or backhand after combobreak cuz the slam backhand combo is super free

[solemn fractal]

and mohg was zagreus all along (lord of blood)?

peak fiction michael zaki i kneel

[hearty fog]

Zag t-posing with early sword Special: "Nihil!"

[worldly bobcat]

I’m angry 😤. They aren’t releasing it on PS5 immediately but they are on switch of all things? 😔

[granite mauve]

its probably easier for indies to get on switch

[meager garden]

this happened last time too

[empty abyss]

it could be with Sony not approving Hades 2 to join the ps, yet

wha, you think sony and microsot just accept strays into the console?

[hearty fog]

Bastion launched during the Xbox 360 Summer of Arcade.

[stray quiver]

do we know what the switch price is going to be?

[crude dragon]

Should be the same as it is on Steam

[wise ledge]

Same as the first one

[raven perch]

Same as it ever was

[vital hollow]

Out of all of the Hidden Aspects, I think the Morrigan aspect is the best. You get the diversity of Blades moveset which allows for nearly any build, and then you get the Blood Triad for amazing Burst damage. It's also just really satisfying to hear to Blood Triad sound effect

[wise ledge]

Morrigan is my favorite aspect in general

It's just so fun

[crude dragon]

Isn't Morrigan's moveset just flat-out better than the other knives?

[broken glen]

Yep

I always find the other knives underwhelming after I play morrigan

[crude dragon]

You mean underwhelming?

[wintry dagger]

Sub seven minute Chronos let's gooooooo (with Mel Xinth of all things)

Unseeded too, I think that puts me in Top 30

[empty abyss]

80 dollars in the switch 2 (this is a lie if you arent aware. Given the fact that Nintendo are greedy tarnisheds)

[cursive kayak]

im assuming it’s gonna be similar to the steam price lol

[raven perch]

It’s 2 dabloons

[uncut galleon]

you can see how much it is on the nintendo eshop right now

[stray quiver]

I'm curious, ik in hades 1 you can date both meg and than at the same time but can you do the same thing in this game?

I'm guessing so but want verify

[raven perch]

You can date everyone with no consequences

[stray quiver]

good to hear, thanks

[raven perch]

The siblings may beef but that’s none of your concern lol

Mel stays nonplussed

[atomic river]

whats the easiest fear setup for surface 24 i only got first 2 rivals unlocked also

[unkempt zodiac]

Rivals 4 + random stuff 🔥 🔥 🔥

Unironically tho not actually too hard

[atomic river]

hm alr ill try to unlock it

[wide river]

if you dont feel great about UR typhon then do three i guess, hubris 2 and time 2 are pretty much free

[atomic river]

whats ur typhon

[wide river]

ive beat all bosses on UR at least once

never cleared 20 fear yet though

[atomic river]

whats ur bro

[wide river]

thats rivals

[atomic river]

oh

[wide river]

unrivaled is the game term pretty sure

[atomic river]

yeah i only have the first 2 bosses i dont have enough prometheus feathers to make the 3rd

or wtv i need idk

[buoyant matrix]

those are aetos's feathers 😂

you need two feathers and two of cerb's tears

[atomic river]

acting like it doesnt come from prometheus bru

[balmy shuttle]

come on guys 4 more days

[limpid oar]

Ngl if it's surface I wouldn't go beyond rivals 2, Prom and Typhon are tough

[bright fern]

“you can date any/all of the romanceables with no consequences” should lowkey be plastered in big bold letters on the hades 2 steam page with how i see it asked on here like omg

[sleek oar]

I havent really seen it asked much

[bright fern]

maybe i’m just on the story discussion channel all the time then lol

[orchid acorn]

i have awoken from my sleep

[long totem]

GUYS IDK WHAT TO DO THERE'S FOUR DAYS LEFT

I CAN'T DEAL WITH THE WAIT

This is killing me oh lords

[buoyant matrix]

you can do some chill 32 fear runs to relax

[little mason]

Just play the better game hades 1

[verbal rampart]

If you grow impatient now, I wonder how you will feel the 25th when you'll have to wait for the exact hour of the release

[buoyant matrix]

for us unprivileged people with slow internet it will take a few hours to download it too

[verbal rampart]

Oh dear I didn't even think about that. This will be hell for them

[buoyant matrix]

it took me 3 hours to buy silksong and then another 2.5 hours to download it

[orchid acorn]

time to purchase a hotspot from your mobile provider

[buoyant matrix]

it's not an isp thing it's a country thing

[orchid acorn]

copium surely it works

[buoyant matrix]

hopefully the update is light

[orchid acorn]

it wont be

[buoyant matrix]

same size as unseen should be fine

[orchid acorn]

its adding in new models voicelines and a lot of actual content

[buoyant matrix]

how big was unseen?

couldn't have been more than 6-7 gb?

[orchid acorn]

unseen added almost nothng comparatively, look back to the sizes of like olympic or warsong for comparison

[buoyant matrix]

i started in warsong idk

[orchid acorn]

and even then i think its lowballing cause its prob gonna be like hades 1 which added a content nuke of voice lines at 1.0

still will prob only be a few gigs

2 orso

[buoyant matrix]

oh that's good

by light i meant below 6-7

[hollow lily]

chat decides. do i renew my kaspersky subscription or do i cancel it

[orchid acorn]

isn't like the entire game only 9 gigs or something

[buoyant matrix]

update will be around 8pm-ish in my timezone so as long as i can download it in 2-3 hours it's good

[buoyant matrix]

no idea what that even is

[hollow lily]

antivirus

[orchid acorn]

cancel it

[buoyant matrix]

how expensive is a yearly sub

[orchid acorn]

you need quite literally zero anti viruses as a normal user

[hollow lily]

35bucks

[buoyant matrix]

what if i commit a lot of "sailing"

[orchid acorn]

still near useless

[buoyant matrix]

b-b-but muh precautions 🥺

[orchid acorn]

• if its that unknown the AV generally won't catch it
• if its that known windows defender catches it, as windows defender is actually good these days

[hollow lily]

i uhhh. traverse the river of thessaly alot. im gonna cancel it tho but the only reason i got it in the first place was because of dodi becoming such an infested place

[orchid acorn]

AVs are good for reactive once your systems compromised to help fix it

but by that point you may as well just reimage anyway

[hollow lily]

nah i just reinstall windows everytime

[orchid acorn]

the vast majority of things AV do are either false positives you then click to bypass anyway, or WD gets it too

[hollow lily]

afaik kaspesrky is one of the decent ones. and runs only on memory

[orchid acorn]

the first step of not getting infected is not downloading sus stuff, even if you sail the seas there is a common sense barrier

if your downloading the new taylor swift album.exe thats on you

[hollow lily]

preach

but even an experianced mfer like me got fooled by dodi once

[orchid acorn]

i've been compromised a few times by stuff i felt was clean, or at least i suspect was the culprit cause the moment something happened i powered off and nuked my drive with a reimage

[hollow lily]

XD

[orchid acorn]

was some cookies exploit that let them sell my steam trading cards cause apparently stuff sold for a low price doesn't need steam guard verification

?????????

[hollow lily]

ohhhhhhh i heard about those

[orchid acorn]

let me tell you being at work and seeing like 50 emails of "YOUR STEAM MARKETPLACE SOLD FOR .01 CENT" had me hella questioning before i went into oshi mode

[hollow lily]

google extensions that took ur cookies and verification cookies and used it for trading inventory

[orchid acorn]

https://imgur.com/k9NRr1e panic

[hollow lily]

happend to my csgo skins once. thank fck i didnt have anything expensive at the time

[orchid acorn]

yeah i haven't played those thingsin a long ass time. if this still happened when i had a howl i would've been pissed

[hollow lily]

you had a howl?

damn ok

[orchid acorn]

yeah i was big into gambling on like csgolounge and stuff

loved sniping csgoroulette pots too by just putting in a like 200 dollar knife for a 70% chance to win

sometimes lost but thats the game you play

[hollow lily]

nah i just buy whatever i want to play with. if they go up in price good if they dont idc

[orchid acorn]

thats my logic now

but back then i was like a late teen/young adult who didnt have money to just buy stuff lmfao

[hollow lily]

i love my atheris

[hollow lily]

i should probably rename her to artemis should i https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1252944071459209280/1419273166416642200/image.png?ex=68d128a3&is=68cfd723&hm=f4da30edfe3b5f58f363ce16efabc513f473606918b00220c6d3054a6967a19d&

[orchid acorn]

yes

[hollow lily]

ngl an artemis bow inspired awp skin would be sick af

buuuut thats too much ip-theft for valve. and with cases like the new ones. fck no

[buoyant matrix]

holy moly that looks clean

but knowing cs prices it's probably like 600 dollars

[hollow lily]

nope

bought it for 18. its now worth. 30 ish

csgo pricing isnt about how clean it is anymore. its just about if its rare or not

[buoyant matrix]

yeah it's basically stock prices at this point

[limpid oar]

Does that mean you could actually get nice looking skins for cheap? Or does it not work the other way round

[hollow lily]

an even more autistic (hard r) version of the stock market

[hollow lily]

yes

[limpid oar]

O that's good to know if I ever get into cs2

[orchid acorn]

prices in general have risen for anything not literally fodder so kinda but not really

[hollow lily]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1252944071459209280/1419274902216642646/Screenshot_458.png?ex=68d12a41&is=68cfd8c1&hm=112e86595a184cc0fbfc6c2320711b90a31cbc0e2d7b15ab75e6ebf1507fdaba&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=918&height=516

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1252944071459209280/1419274902741192774/Screenshot_459.png?ex=68d12a41&is=68cfd8c1&hm=d2a5b7d0458dd5c4502ab139af79c31aff804795ba88f44c475ce275fc00d6c1&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=918&height=516

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1252944071459209280/1419274903240048741/Screenshot_460.png?ex=68d12a41&is=68cfd8c1&hm=a7839d5de4aa9014b8197d160c15281e90a349deba11ad1e60ca87747abeed25&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=918&height=516

these 3 combined cost less than 6 dollars i think

[hollow lily]

the stickers on my ak are my own that i unboxed. a reminder to how much of a dumb fck i am that i put a now 20 dollars worth sticker (the pro) on a skin thats worth 2 euros at best @orchid acorn

[limpid oar]

Damn that is cool, I remember liking that AK back in cs go

[hollow lily]

correction

its only 5 dollars.

nvm

anyone here got 70 dollars to spare i dont wanna gamble with my own money

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1252944071459209280/1419276312404824104/image.png?ex=68d12b91&is=68cfda11&hm=9f61520d5e688f657caedc915b4a330c832170456cc5401d152e16f7f7774663&

[buoyant matrix]

if i had the internet to play multiplayer games I'd grind boxes on cs and sell them for steam wallet credit 🤑

[uncut galleon]

cs is supposed to be free. what has this world come to

[orchid acorn]

bros gonna make less than chinese peasants in a sweatshop

even if you highroll crates its like a weekly drop 😭

[buoyant matrix]

yeah

i checked crate prices idk it's not bad

[sharp cosmos]

Let's not pretend that cs skins are not central to the game's economy since their introduction

[buoyant matrix]

imagine if hades had loot boons and you could trade them on the steam market 😳

[timid coyote]

I'm scared and ready at the same time

[buoyant matrix]

be not afraid

[orchid acorn]

pet skins 🤤

give me tuxedo toula

[torpid grove]

watch them drop a battlepass on 1.0

[orchid acorn]

i'd be fine with it tbh

mostly because it probably promises, at minimum 1 "season" of balance

[candid geode]

Halloween skins for the characters

I wonder what they're gonna draw Mel this year for the Halloween image

[orchid acorn]

child mel as hecate

[candid geode]

https://tenor.com/view/long-tears-gif-11087877242190144149

STOOPPP I WAS JUST THINKING OF THAT EARLIER

Mel with the oversized hat....

https://tenor.com/view/komi-san-komi-shouko-komi-shouko-comi-san-gif-23012165

TOO CUTE!!!!

[buoyant matrix]

now I'm wondering what adult mel would look like in Hecate's clothes

[orchid acorn]

mel doesn't have the abs to pull it off frfr

[buoyant matrix]

mel most definitely has abs

in fact I'm willing to bet artemis has too ‼️

not selene though, she just sits on the horses and they do all the hard work 🙄

[orchid acorn]

mf is calling selene a pillow princess

[candid geode]

I imagine that Mel is more lean than muscular but wouldn't have those washboard abs like hecate

[buoyant matrix]

washboard? bro that's a kitchen board i could cut chicken on those abs ong 💯

[candid geode]

You know for the goddess of witchcraft she is extremely muscular not that I mind

What does she even do??? Benchpress the cauldron???

[leaden light]

I really want the cyclops' sheep to act like the zelda chickens, hurt them enough and they start attacking you XD

[candid geode]

https://tenor.com/view/sheep-lamb-shepherd-smashed-attack-gif-13434674094542423913

[buoyant matrix]

some of them in the bossfight do attack you

There are four sheep types. neutral, poison, bomb and ramming
all four can spawn in his bossfight, the neutrals are harmless, those are the ones you find in his hone

[candid geode]

I swear the sheep secretly work for Hecate

Sleeper agents type shift

[buoyant matrix]

another "hecate is betraying us" conspiracy theory?

[candid geode]

I WILL DIE ON THAT HILL

YOU TELLING ME SHE DOESNT HAVE SOMETHING UP HER SLEEVE?!?!

[leaden light]

I haven't heard of that theory, it never crossed my mind. Now I'm scared

[buoyant matrix]

she's definitely sus yes 🈷️, but I don't think she's outright betraying us

[candid geode]

You know how we thought that hades was the bad guy in the first game and then we just find out that he's not

And how Mel kinda idolized Hecate and believes her to be good

[buoyant matrix]

the first game didn't really have a bad guy it was just a giga broken and flawed family

[leaden light]

I think gale is more sus than the sheep

[candid geode]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1141506586414698559/1419303526013862058/RDT_20250921_0845234006925574519593245.jpg?ex=68d144e9&is=68cff369&hm=84bdcb1f590de0e7a71e21c35b58da55377fdb06575d6622ccc4ee92c8b7a64b&

I know she hiding something i just can't prove it

[buoyant matrix]

when i know the damn polecat is actually a body building weasel but I can't prove it

[candid geode]

HUH?!?

THE POLECAT IS IN CAHOOTS WITH CHRONOS!

[dim kernel]

hades 1 4.0 tomorrow

[rich salmon]

4 days till hades 2 launch how we feeling???

[buoyant matrix]

malnourished

[rich salmon]

Well based on your pfp im sure your used to waiting for games (after 7 years Yall finally got silksong) so just hold out a little longer!

[chrome plaza]

are there weapon aspects in teh game and if so how do i unlock them

is it a ritual thing in the pot

[craggy widget]

yep there are aspects and even hidden ones

pretty sure you need an incantation but idk the requirements

[normal mountain]

Has nergal been buffed? - that is such an OP aspec lol

practically one shots everything

almost

[normal mountain]

The requirements are just unlock the all your normal arms and you'll just be given a phrase by the gods.

Artemis, charon, circe give a phrase, can't remember who gives the phrases for the coat and the umbral flames.

i think selene gives the coat phrase

and moros the torches

[orchid acorn]

nergal has been buffed and nerfed very slighlty in ways you probably don't even notice

it lost dash attack damage gained reg attack damage by like 5-10

[orchid acorn]

aspects require you to have the 5 first base weapons and then beat hecate with them all

hidden aspects require

• all 6 weapons
• all 3 base aspects for the weapon your looking for the HA on
• at least one of those 3 must be level 5

then talk to the NPC listed as the 2nd aspect in the list. For example for staff its

• Mel
• Circe
• Momus

Of those 3 only 1 is a npc in the game

[normal mountain]

of which none of this is told you in the game. - which I think is either deliberate or just an oversight

[orchid acorn]

its deliberate. they are hidden aspects for a reason

and that being said it is quite literally impossible to miss them unless you are actively not unlocking other content. You are guaranteed to unlock all 6 of them eventually

[normal mountain]

I can see why this will annoy people, especially now we are so close to V1... I can just see all the handbags over it already by new players lol

[orchid acorn]

its a much simpler system than hades 1 which had some arbitrary rules

this is literally "unlock and upgrade weapons" Which you already are doing

[normal mountain]

yeh, but gamers love to complain. such a sensitive bunch. lol

[leaden light]

I didn't know there was the extra hidden aspects until like two hours ago, I was happily surprised

[normal mountain]

lol

[chrome plaza]

i know about aspects and stuff because i played the first game

[orchid acorn]

and that is the intended function

a player will stumble upon them and go "wait theres more!!!"

[normal mountain]

I didn't swear! silly bot lol

[chrome plaza]

so yknow, just wanted to check if it was like a ritual thing in the pot or not

thanks for the help guys

[normal mountain]

All I said was, i cant wait for thursday! i can shut chronos up for good 😛

checkmate bot lol

[orchid acorn]

like the one questionable think in the chain is requiring beating hecate with all 5 weapons.

• why not all 6 weapons? Likely because coat is locked behind the 3rd surface region but its still extremely weird
• What if a player really hates one specific weapon, like me with torches in EA original release? I still forced myself to use them but i still hated it. i can eeasily see a player going "nah" and never getting aspects

granted the counterpoint is "its just the 1st boss lmao" which fair enough

[leaden light]

Except for the fated list things I never really touch the coat or the skull

[orchid acorn]

have you unlocked the hidden skull yet

changes up the gameplay a bit removing the ammo

[normal mountain]

Ive used the coat recently, and it feels good, it's no longer as clunky as it was.

[leaden light]

I got it today, haven't had the chance to try it yet

I do like the sound of removed ammo though

[orchid acorn]

unlimited ammo
short range
low damage
HIGH fire rate

posiedon/hestia is the best

zeus static shock is also good but not particularly blitz outside of the special

[leaden light]

[chrome plaza]

another question (sorry)

for element boon purposes, what does a duo boon count as?

cause i have a zeus and hestia one that has a little purple orb with stars in it

does it count as any element?

or no element

[orchid acorn]

aether

aka the element that is completely useless except for one specific chaos boon that requires you to have aether in the first place :^)

[chrome plaza]

i see

i chose that one anyway cause the other options kinda sucked tbh

[orchid acorn]

its been feedbacked that aether should be more useful, but its more or less a forgotten part of the game

its either an intended balancing lever so that you aren't getting like +15hp on top of the posiedon duo boon you just got, or just actually forgotten

[leaden light]

I personally like to collect duo boons, just cause I can.

Plus they have a pretty green border lol

[candid geode]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003884237373575168/1419332224238620753/Tumblr_l_1564649113917601.jpg?ex=68d15fa4&is=68d00e24&hm=90e924afe8a051afa126696af65608984c809acdadcfc7c0b97053f77071dc3b&

"I curse the day of Hades 1 that snowballed into the sequel"

[long totem]

Literally, cuz I got school. I will download from there but I will die trying to wait

[candid geode]

I'm fine with that cause I usually wake up around that time and get comfortable

[orchid acorn]

flashback to zag security run #52526

[long totem]

Omg forever grateful I have no money but good wifi😭

[candid geode]

https://tenor.com/view/foxy-run-fnaf-1-five-nights-at-freddy's-gif-2388118267267753805

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/the-sims-sims-woohoo-bed-sleeping-gif-5439126

the persy and hades side plot

[candid geode]

NOT THE SIMS

[long totem]

"I curse the day your brother met your mother."

[candid geode]

https://tenor.com/view/this-one-takes-the-cake-daniel-keem-keemstar-this-is-the-winner-most-remarkable-gif-18644289

[orchid acorn]

finally some real greek myth

and the plot twist we've been waiting for at 1.0

zag is the real father

[soft falcon]

So I had some dialogue from Apollo and one other about something, but I have no idea what triggered it or what it refers to.

Apollo mentioned a ||crack forming at the "base of the mountain", and something coming out of it was breathing, noting "perhaps it's friendly?"||. Is this something that will be expanded on later, or was it referring to something I did?

[long totem]

LMFAOOO NOOO

[candid geode]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-celebrate-you-are-the-father-show-win-gif-5245965

He helped technically

Matchmade in hell disguised as daddy issues

[long totem]

Zag famous last words to Hades and Persephone: "wait... You're not thinking of having another child right?"

And they really didn't waste any time lol

[candid geode]

I know that is uncomfortable

Isn't it stone or something

[orchid acorn]

i'd have to actually check when i get home but i don't reclal that dialogue so its either some generic reference to typhon hint that you either got too late cause you progressed to fast or maybe a chaos gate reference

[long totem]

Literally daddy issues being translated to fixing the underworld's love lives hell

[candid geode]

Also you help his mom reunite with her situationships

[soft falcon]

Could you spoiler tag that? Because that literally just spoiled that character directly

[candid geode]

Everyone want a piece of persephone

[long totem]

Whoops

[candid geode]

Yeah watch your language

[long totem]

I wonder if Mel with reunite Penelope and Ody (if she doesn't I will frigging die but okay)

[orchid acorn]

this is the spoiler channel homie

don't want spoilers should've gone to #h2-for-new-players

[candid geode]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[orchid acorn]

this just mademe double check that i wasn't an idiot 😭

[candid geode]

I've seen some discourse on people not liking Ody's writing in the game

[candid geode]

I feel you

[long totem]

I mean, they made it sound as if the situation with Circe was consensual and not abuse

[candid geode]

I think its also with the Epic Musicial that people have a warped view on Ody

I literally have a copy of the Odyssey in the back on my car rn, I'll check

I think they'll expand more on his story

[soft falcon]

The title of the channel is just "discussion", and I figured people would still have the decency to spoiler tag. You know, because people can end up seeing spoilers just from the search function

[orchid acorn]

https://imgur.com/3LzpKLc

[candid geode]

I WAS JUST ABOUT TO POiNT THAT OUT

[flat glacier]

The channel description does say (BEWARE: Spoilers allowed!!) and Hades I and II spoilers are welcome.

[buoyant matrix]

there's another channel called "no spoilers"

[orchid acorn]

does it suck you just got spoiled, sure i feel for you and it sucks i did it. but its only on you homie

[soft falcon]

Yes, and in previous "spoilers allowed" channels I've been in, the accepted meaning of that is that spoilers - even properly hidden ones - are not allowed in other channels.

[long totem]

Wow show off, u have a copy of the Odyssey AND a car? /j

[orchid acorn]

this channel is for people discussing the game and i took it as you asking why you got that dialogue, not you talking into the wind for not spoiler details

[candid geode]

I went on a Barnes and noble spree and forgot to take it out lolol

[soft falcon]

So there's no middle ground between getting every spoiler and having zero questions answered?

[candid geode]

Now Odysseus burns in the back of me car

[orchid acorn]

The middle ground is no spoilers, where you use the spoiler tags ||like this|| for your questions

[long totem]

He wishes to return home on a land metal ship

[orchid acorn]

no spoilers is for anything post erebus

[candid geode]

Too bad he's getting home on my Toyota corolla

Beep beep

[long totem]

Lmfao

[flat glacier]

#h2-discussion and #h2-story-discussion do not require spoiler tags.
#h2-for-new-players requires spoilers for anything outside of Erebus.

[soft falcon]

I interpreted "no spoilers" to be literal, as in even tagged spoilers wouldn't be allowed.

[oak ivy]

Big spoiler: Zagreus will die in 1.0 😈

[orchid acorn]

lowkey i think you guys should adjust that rule in spoilers a bit for more clarity

[flat glacier]

The channel descriptions go into more detail

[orchid acorn]

idk if its been brought up in mod chat or not but "post erebus" as a LOT of flexibility

[brave urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/kpop-demon-hunters-zoey-fire-gif-17909437261299735846

[orchid acorn]

like icarus is post erebus, yet not since its in the crossroads which is pre erebus

[brave urchin]

4 MORE DAYS!

[orchid acorn]

you can see hera in erebus, but it requires stuff unlocked after erebus to see her

[flat glacier]

I can bring it up with the others, though, if it's a problem - especially as 1.0 gets closer, as I know a lot of folks have been waiting for 1.0 to actually play

[candid geode]

I wonder what kind of car ody would drive

[orchid acorn]

the main reason i bring it up is specifically because of 1.0 soon

[candid geode]

Probably a Honda Odyssey

[orchid acorn]

personally don't care and wil lbe helping regardless

[soft falcon]

This is what I get for taking channel titles literally. I'm going to block this channel so I don't get spoiled by using the Search function

Until I get far enough

[orchid acorn]

you can block channels entirely? i didn't even realize

[candid geode]

Ya I do it

[soft falcon]

I think? I hope so because I just got spoiled again

[orchid acorn]

i knew you can unfollow and mute but block is crazy

[candid geode]

Oh wait I read that as mute

My bad

[soft falcon]

Oh... I can't block it. I can just mute it

[orchid acorn]

🥀

[candid geode]

Mute works just as well

[flat glacier]

You can mute channels and also remove them from the channel list, but that doesn't remove it from search

[candid geode]

And just mark as read

[flat glacier]

If it helps, you can specify which channel you'd like to search in by typing in: and then a given channel

[orchid acorn]

won't help much considering no spoilers isn't THAT active

and i think search bypasses spoiler tags too?

nah spoiler tags still show up i just tested it

[soft falcon]

Unfortunately, if I want clarification on something or I accidentally skipped dialogue, I'll likely just not find the info I'm looking for.

It's a selfish wish, but I wish everyone used channel titles the way I used them. Or as a less selfish wish, I wish I could automatically know the intent behind a title by looking at it

[orchid acorn]

its valid to have like (spoilers) possibly in the name

i think i brought that up before

cause the little headliner IS easily missed

[soft falcon]

That's absolutely what I'd want, it makes it very clear what's what

[orchid acorn]

i guess its implied by the nospoilers channel beneath it

[flat glacier]

I've raised the issue with the rest of the moderating team, but unfortunately changing channel names isn't something I can do on my own 😔

[soft falcon]

And since you have to click on the channel to read the headline, you can get spoiled before you even know spoilers are untagged

[orchid acorn]

ask for forgiveness not permission 😈

[flat glacier]

Well, you see, I literally do not have the permissions for it...

[oak ivy]

In that case I won't ask you to change #video-games to #silksong 😔

[candid geode]

hahaha

[orchid acorn]

o is there like a head mod role or something dman

i thought it was just one encompessing role 😭

[flat glacier]

Nope, there's just moderators!

[soft falcon]

Alright, time for me to leave the channel before I see more stuff 🤣 I'll have to be careful with my use of the search function

[orchid acorn]

amir himself needs to log in to change the header clearly

[flat glacier]

And then the Supergiant folks who actually have all the fancy permissions.

[candid geode]

Hades 2 spoiler: there's gonna be a Hades 3

[soft falcon]

Also, sorry for my misunderstanding, @orchid acorn . I recognize you did nothing wrong

[oak ivy]

Noooo I want pyre 2

[candid geode]

I hate to tell u man but pyre didn't do well

I doubt they'll make a second one

[limpid oar]

But what about p-- lilac beat me to it

[oak ivy]

No don't say this, pronto does a lot of things wrong...

[candid geode]

We dogpiling pronto now?

[oak ivy]

Hehe

[orchid acorn]

👿

im saving this message to absolve all of my sins

[limpid oar]

Maybe usually but not this time, don't give him credit when he hasn't done a thing

[oak ivy]

Fiiiine

[flat glacier]

what's this about pronto doing things wrong 👀

[orchid acorn]

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/avydXKd_460s.jpg

[oak ivy]

👀

[limpid oar]

You know how it is, for the bullying to be effective it has to be accurate

[orchid acorn]

i am a war criminal sparrow don't look into it

[flat glacier]

oh okay ^^

[orchid acorn]

lilac is the only known survivor (so far)

[oak ivy]

Nothing ban worthy..... Probably.....

So far...

[oak ivy]

I must survive to testify against you in court 😔

[orchid acorn]

thats funny you think its making it to court

[oak ivy]

You can't be doing this in front of a mod, you're actually going to get timed out.......

[orchid acorn]

its fine they deem you an acceptable loss to keep me sated

[oak ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-challenge-cat-fall-off-table-taking-a-tumble-cheese-on-head-gif-14154057

Shoo shoo

[flat glacier]

oi oi, play nice you two,

Anyway! How's about that Hades 2, huh?

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10311420692458175149

[flat glacier]

I hear it's pretty good 👀

[orchid acorn]

heard it was mid actually im refunding rn

cash grab sequels smh

[oak ivy]

I'm too busy playing silksong these days 😔

[oak ivy]

Are you speedrunning getting timed out lmao... 💀

[orchid acorn]

its a joke 😔

[sharp cosmos]

Pronto casually self-doxxing by testifying they're from the Balkans

To return on point, I need like 22 more silver, despite having 20-ish underworld runs. Is there a way to improve the odds, past going, taking raki, and gambling +ressource% on the embryo ?

[orchid acorn]

not anymore.

underworld has more sources of silver i guess with narcissus offering it

you used to be able to choose a tool to prioritize the resource to a massive degree near force spawning it but not anymore

[candid geode]

I miss my wife zagreus

I miss him a lot

[raven perch]

That’s not how the quote goes

[sleek oar]

I just booted the game and skellys not in the training ground, bros tired

[cursive kayak]

i miss my zag, tails. i miss him a lot

[wintry dagger]

It’ll be so funny if Zag has been continuing doing hades 1 runs in hypnos’s dreams all this time we’re playing as Mel

[sharp cosmos]

Wdym, Skelly got lost during the whole invasion of the House of Hades, Commander Schelemeus will not tolerate this slander

[solemn fractal]

bro's so devoted to killing his dad he does it even while sleeping lol

[sharp cosmos]

Do you reckon he's slashing and burning cardboard figures like we see in dreams ?

[solemn fractal]

if u love ur job, u never work a day in your life lol

[orchid acorn]

change weapon

skelly is forced to spawn if you change weps

[raven perch]

He’ll show back up if you change your weapon

Ope

[sleek oar]

How is that the first time thats happened to me 😭

[solemn fractal]

i really fo need more lines and dialogue brah no one speaks to me anymore in crossroads

[sharp cosmos]

I often find him missing after a chaos trial

[orchid acorn]

thats why u wait for 1.0

[solemn fractal]

i know.... 4 more days...

[sleek oar]

Crazy we’ve never really beaten chronos once technically

[bold crescent]

Man idk if I should keep my fear high when its out or just remove it and see the all the content first and then rise it again

[orchid acorn]

rush it(but not speedrun) at 0 fear then start a new save after the ending

[meager garden]

I hope they add a 64 fear statue

[cursive kayak]

yeah that’s my plan

[orchid acorn]

i hope they add in random testaments after you do all of the preset ones

just randomly get a 24 fear X boss testament for each wep

[sleek oar]

Running 8 fear to speedrun to chronos every single time (frenzy2 + shadown)

[wintry dagger]

All I do are speed runs so I always have Frenzy and Time maxed out, taking off Frenzy makes everything feel almost weird now

[cursive kayak]

vow of rival specific testaments might be cool

[sharp cosmos]

Having some 0f runs under your belt would help so people will actually congratulate you for the kill, and then congratulate you for doing so spreading nightmare

[wintry dagger]

64 fear statue should be Greg Kasavin smiling and giving a thumbs up with only skelly knowing who it is

[sharp cosmos]

Who's greg kasavin ?

[orchid acorn]

our lord and savior

[fringe sparrow]

The man behind it all

[shy charm]

anyone feel like the waiting is worse - somehow now that we know the date?

[fringe sparrow]

Our lord and savior

[fringe sparrow]

Honestly no cause I was expecting next year lol

[orchid acorn]

next year is crazy

[orchid acorn]

its honestly kinda true

[fringe sparrow]

I’m glad I was wrong 🙂

[orchid acorn]

the anticipation makes me a bit anxious when i think about it

[cursive kayak]

the anticipationnnn

[meager garden]

hades 2 shoulda been 2027

[orchid acorn]

twin

prob for different reasons though. like i think about what exactly changed and what won't change and then i go its never gonna change

https://tenor.com/view/sinistcha-panik-panic-a-aa-gif-2014384336723750969

[fringe sparrow]

Idk if anyone keeps up with sworn but it’s wonderful how they had the same release date as hades 2 so they pushed it up 3 days

[orchid acorn]

top 3 changes i want at 1.0

Persephone odd changes
Artemis spawnrate changes(either what she can spawn on or a general increase)
Mel axe buff

maybe swap mel axe buff with like unseen rework depending on the result but i don't really want magick anyway but i love axe

[raven perch]

Top 1 Change I want at 1.0:

hypnos come home

[shy charm]

you want that mel axe buff so bad - you are it's biggest advocate.

like i agree with you ftr

[cursive kayak]

for me a lot of anticipation is story-related. while I absolutely have faith in them, there’s just so many pitfalls they could fall into and im equal parts excited and nervous for the full thing

[orchid acorn]

like in a vacuum its not that egregious and its a symptom of bad axe design overall that 3 aspects all do similar things

which can't really be fixed with like "hehe mel axe gives 50hp and power now"

but something > nothing

especially if the something is more transformative like giving special power too

[empty abyss]

only once

But. Yes. We're nowhere near of vanquishing him for good.

[orchid acorn]

its also a reason why i advocate for restarting. cause unless they reset all the "you did it!" dialouge people will prob be a bit underwhelmed by the reactions

tho i guess we would have other reactive dialogue about whatever we find too

[sleek oar]

Restarting difficult because I suck at this game

That’s just gonna be like 20 runs of me trying to upgrade my arcana before a single win

[dusty tapir]

Im mostly concerned that if I dont* restart im going to complete like, 1 run, and get all the missing story dialogue, cutscenes, etc, literally all at once

[sleek oar]

Nah that’s not possible since they’re removing the sands and lenses

[sharp cosmos]

That probably won't happen, becuase we won't have sand, and also because beating Chronos, even once, will have more than 1 reaction per npc I'm sure

[dusty tapir]

I guess thats true

[orchid acorn]

i mean you also can't get all the dialogue instantly

since its 1 dialogue per night period

you could unlock all 10 dialogues or w.e but you'd still have to go 1 by 1 over the next 10 nights

[verbal rampart]

When you think about it removing the sand and lenses is, in a certain way, admitting out loud "Ok guys you just smashed our final bosses, we gotta force you to start from 0 for the plot"

[orchid acorn]

"0" more like 90%

[little frost]

yeah real tbh

it's not gonna require more than like 10 at most boss resources each tbh

[verbal rampart]

Yeah I exagerate

[orchid acorn]

each

more like combined i bet

3/3 or something and then just like 4 for chronos

[little frost]

that feels so little but then again like im too speedpilled and that's like less than an hour of playing

[sleek oar]

The salute thing needed 7 from each SURELY you need more to delete chronos

And the father of all titans

[little frost]

that's what my thought was

[orchid acorn]

the salute is meant to be a turbo endgame incantation

aka way past the point of any casual

same with gaia

iirc it needed you to outright beat them 7 times too let alone the resources to do the oath salute

[zealous wing]

would anyone have advice for beating chronos for the first time, idk if im rusty from hades 1 or this game is actually much harder but ive only been able to get like 80% health phase 2 in like around 20 hours

I can get to tartarus and him without using any Death Defiance quite consistently now but the actual fight is very tough for me

[verbal rampart]

I used to get beaten by Chronos really hard until I understood that he is much less dangerous if you manage to stay behind him at all times

[zealous wing]

that does seem to be a smart move, ill start prioritising that thank you

[verbal rampart]

Good luck. Remain unseen. Death to Chronos. Potatoes and hamburger.

[orchid acorn]

general tips for chronos is always stand to his right side, as he swings left to right from his POV

If your on the bottom of the screen it will go < for example

[candid geode]

Hit grandpa with the chair

[orchid acorn]

on the top with him at the bottom its >

[candid geode]

https://tenor.com/view/azonh-chase-szymon-hed-liebert-chair-gif-16918706

[zealous wing]

the one attack that really messes with me is the scythe throw ill be honest, it seems so simple but it just doesnt register in my brain

[orchid acorn]

the spinning scythe has the same thing as above

it will always spawn from his left

[zealous wing]

thank you very much, I shall report back in after this next run

[orchid acorn]

https://imgur.com/HOLRhAQ
example from a video i pulled up

[zealous wing]

so once im at his right I should have enough time to dodge, I do also get kinda unlucky with boons but blah blah blah a bad mechanic blames their tools

[orchid acorn]

if your always on his right side you can just dash behind him or get safe numerous options yes

[smoky rover]

Do the extra spinning scythes from rivals 4 also always go clockwise?

I haven't played underworld much

[orchid acorn]

i think they alternate

off the top of my head anyway

its like

<

or something

https://imgur.com/DB9QshW

one comes left to right in the middle first

next two are right>left close and far

[buoyant matrix]

nope, the initial scythe goes clockwise, the delayed two go counterclockwise

you have to dodge it by dashing through the first scythe then walking back a little

[wintry dagger]

Don’t think of it as waiting for release, think of it as 4 more days of Medea being the strongest it’s ever going to be

[orchid acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-homer-simpson-simpsons-worst-day-of-your-life-so-far-bart-gif-11689059539835963602

[meager garden]

medea better 100% the game when I left click right click

[orchid acorn]

1.0 comes with cast damage as an innate feature cause they couldn't bring themselves to nerf medea, and they fixed the "bug" where it wasn't applying to omega special

(they accidentally added an S to the medea description like a patch ago)

[worldly drum]

Hi, I wonder, is Wrath of the heavens' genre considered symphonic metal or is it something else? I really need more of it.

[vital hollow]

Okay, I’ve seen people use the Medea aspect for going insanely fast, and tried it myself without looking up how that’s done. And I didn’t feel like I was going too fast. What makes it so broken?

[orchid acorn]

its big damage, big modifier, melee range, functionally gives mel a 2nd dash what isn't so broken about it

the only thing risky about it is that its melee range, you ARE the projectile

attack>special>repeat

there's also a bug to apply the boosted damage to storm ring and smolder ring

but thats a bug with the coding of those two speciifc things that happens to apply to medea