gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

still needs testing

most likely lion bis 2 als/soy

tbh

the fleet people like to use for lion is soy nakh lion

[strong tartan]

fritz getting booted oof

[atomic abyss]

lion already competitve with fritz against med...
light will be 💀

[sturdy oak]

Hmm that is true ig

Oh well…

[hollow quartz]

Is there any way to know what hulls are going to be in the next month medal shop?

[atomic abyss]

nope, random

[boreal wagon]

the only way to know is to see next month

[atomic abyss]

i meaaaaan
weeeeeell
(not mine)

lion burns are cracked, what can i say

thats about 100k dmg from burns

[mellow cape]

Does it matter who fires first in this comp?

[atomic abyss]

@hollow gust hi

i think lion shd fire first, could be wrong tho

[crimson glacier]

truly the furry lane

[hardy creek]

Once you reach the monthly specialised core limit, you still can gain them from weekly mission right?

[atomic abyss]

no

[wind hazel]

only the ones from medal shop aren't accounted for, everything else capped at 5k

[hardy creek]

Oh damn 💀

[upbeat wagon]

Is sword or bowgun better for bb's?

[wind hazel]

bow vs heavy, everything else sword

[atomic abyss]

by default, sword

[bright tusk]

Is fw 190 g3/r1 best pick for all w15 support carriers? or the best fighter depends on the CV's rld stat?

[steel jacinth]

what's cleo's preferred equips again?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[steel jacinth]

ty! and if i dont have the ur, can i replace it with like the 135 mm twin or twins 128mm 45 skc?

[atomic abyss]

of course

[steel jacinth]

ty again

[warped acorn]

what abt twin 127

[atomic abyss]

shit

worse than the purple twin 120

no reason to ever use it

[warped acorn]

dang no wonder i have 7 purple 3 of them are 127

[atomic abyss]

to be clear

[warped acorn]

the others looks hard to get

[atomic abyss]

even the gold twin 127 is worse than the purple twin 120

[warped acorn]

dang, wonder if theres easy way to get 120 since i only have 1 of it

[atomic abyss]

open more tech boxes

[warped acorn]

welp, gambling

[leaden mountain]

is the live 2d skin for lion not working for anyone when shes set as secretary or is it just me?

[atomic abyss]

not just you, see #tech-support message

[zenith heron]

Do you guys know the estimated credits where you can get both copies of Trafalgar and the new UR BB Gun? Asking because I am not as available as I used to, and I just wish to get those UR stuff from shop

[atomic abyss]

i believe 21k?

you want to hit 30k anyways for the UR bulin

[tight drift]

If you get every special credit you'll get 1.75 Trafalgar

[atomic abyss]

its a 3 week event

just grind to 30k and you will have no issues

[tight drift]

still need tobuy some them to get 500

[leaden mountain]

thanks

[atomic abyss]

also rmb to clear SP daily for 800

[zenith heron]

yeah mb, me being busy haven't cleared the hard modes yet so no SP Clear yet, even if its a 3 week event...

[atomic abyss]

you can do a1-b2

and then just do d3

and then clear sp

that you shd try to do asap

[zenith heron]

thanks for the tip then

[orchid reef]

what good gear on ibuki

for boss fleet

just doing that portland retro is being replaced by her so yeah

[atomic abyss]

not sure why you're replacing your tank, but

[orchid reef]

i dont have the gun and torpedo so

also that ibuki should have been better but yeah

[orchid reef]

okay lemme see if i have all
hopefuly

[atomic abyss]

if not, this

[night crown]

What’s the general opinions on meta?

[orchid reef]

okay thanks <3

also why should be ibuki bad? i mean she could be useful

[hollow gust]

Hmmm I should've leveled skill 2 first , at lvl6 it's a already a big difference

[atomic abyss]

which meta

[night crown]

All of them

[atomic abyss]

because she's a DPS and not a tank?
you're replacing a tank for a DPS
ibuki is good, but there's a fundamental issue with the team comp

[late flame]

most SR (yellow) meta are decent
all elite (purples) meta are collection/fleet-tech

[orchid reef]

idk xd

[late flame]

where are you using this fleet?

[hollow gust]

Saint can barley tank either

[orchid reef]

nah shes actually strongest non back ship i have

[night crown]

Is Nevada purple? I can’t tell anymore cause I’ve upgraded them too much

Yep she is

[orchid reef]

soon for w13, now farming w12-1 for avp, so mob fleet is now only iron blood ships

[hollow gust]

And shes not a tank

[orchid reef]

i think she is xd, better than eugen

[atomic abyss]

well, not as a tank

[night crown]

Which ones should I prioritize building?

[orchid reef]

avp farm

i got agir today also but shes not dev 30

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

read this, use taihou as the 3rd backliner

avp doesnt take exp from german frontliners

[orchid reef]

it says german ships so

does that only mean for back or all or front?

[night crown]

Like this?

[atomic abyss]

means backline only

[atomic abyss]

yes, but change your frontline too

[orchid reef]

okay, i am still confused what are vanguards, backline and etc so thanks <3

[atomic abyss]

vanguard is front

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Research#tabber-tabpanel-August_von_Parseval-3

[night crown]

Like this?

[atomic abyss]

no, replace kent with helena

[late flame]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbguide/fleetbuilding

[sinful escarp]

and put portland in the left hand most slot

[blazing maple]

question.
What formation do you all use at 13+

[hollow gust]

All rainbows

[viral vortex]

for campaign where aa is necessary, which to prioritize crafting in gear lab first: cat aa gun or wyvern?

[wind hazel]

circular

[blazing maple]

No no, I mean fleet formation

like Circular, the line

[blazing maple]

the AA one, I see

[wind hazel]

wyvern, AA gun is very luxury endgame

[viral vortex]

got it! thx!

[prisma pendant]

Yo how do i unlock the minigame for exchanging trafalgar? It says “minigame locked” for some reason

[wind hazel]

you need to build the building around the resort

just follow the icons and what the game tells you on the top right

[prisma pendant]

Got it thank you

[green galleon]

Can anyone tell me what's the use of those left over blueprints?
I can't exchange it or do anything with it but I still could collect it. My Agir is level 125 anyways.

[late flame]

keep it around for her Fate Simulation coming soon i promise

[violet fjord]

I’m sorry for the maybe dumb question, but how do I play the Trafalgar minigame? I keep getting “minigame locked” and I can’t find anything about it anywhere

[warped acorn]

is it able to take over port of brest?

[atomic abyss]

#gameplay-help message

Scroll up abit

[atomic abyss]

What

[warped acorn]

this

[atomic abyss]

No

Red ports stay red

[violet fjord]

I see. Thank you

[warped acorn]

alr

[green galleon]

Oh, alright

[hidden bobcat]

Which is Trafalgar's BiS gun? The purple twin 100mm type 98, OR the golden single 113mm?

[rapid grail]

golden peashooter

[hidden bobcat]

Really?

[wind hazel]

yes why are you skeptical 😭

[hidden bobcat]

Because the in-game loadouts all have the purple gun.

But thanks! Just wanted to know which one to craft.

[wind hazel]

ingame loadout have saratoga using BTD1 dive bombers too, doesn't mean they are good

[rapid grail]

just assume 95% of the loadouts there are all dogshit
in theory, a good system. in practice... backwater is a nice way to describe it

[hidden bobcat]

And as far as her best Auxes, what should I focus on?

[wind hazel]

toolkit+another hp aux

[hidden bobcat]

Okay-dokey thx!

[sturdy oak]

I heard z52 and eldridge retrofit are gd but can someone explain to me why exactly?

Also i need help on making a proper comp :) ty

[wind hazel]

z52 strong damage, good aa, good buff debuff, good sustain, basically one of the most complete vanguard ship in the game
eldridge massively improve vanguard's effective HP, strongest ASW in the game

i assume you know that eldridge requires retrofit to be good

if you dont have her retrofit item you can forget about eldridge altogether

[turbid marsh]

z52 also improves vanguard ehp as well with her smoll heals and slashes, good asw too. basically everything you can think that a frontline has, z52 has it. not particular the best.

[humble tapir]

should i prioritize maxing z52 vanguard lion implacable or trafalgar?

[hollow gust]

Lion most likely

[sturdy oak]

Yep i got my retrofit~

But where would i even use her?

[wind hazel]

w14, opsi, some event EX

[late flame]

and pvp

[wind hazel]

about to be killed by 🦁

[fair phoenix]

Who should I prioritize?

[wind hazel]

lion

[sturdy oak]

Team wise? Any faction i should pair her with?

[wind hazel]

not in particular

if you need your vanguard to be tanky or you have asw issue, you use her

[sturdy oak]

I have q a few shipgirls but i have 0 experience with teambuilding.
Ive been playing since implacable release but i havent really done much besides collection

So i think i may need some help with teambuilding or sumth 😭💀

[late flame]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbguide/fleetbuilding

[night crown]

Is there a way to reach SP currently? I can’t find the stage it wants me to complete

[late flame]

did you do stage d3?

[viscid swift]

/hardmode

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[night crown]

Is that in main campaign or is that the event hard mode

[sturdy badger]

Question: How do I rotate skins for a character? In other words, a single unit with multiple skin rotation.

[tight drift]

the event hard mode, need to finish it first to get into the SP

[night crown]

дерьмо

[tight drift]

[wind hazel]

TL: (shit)

[sturdy oak]

Ty~

Also is there a way to tell what armour type enemies are?

[wind hazel]

there's this https://azurlane.nagami.moe/nodes

uh... click around

[sturdy oak]

Tyy

[night crown]

Lion hasn’t been added to the tier list has she?

[sturdy oak]

Nope not seeing it

[faint cloud]

lion's too stronk even makes 3 royals comp come back

[ivory pawn]

ECTL updates at a glacial pace. Don't expect to see her there for a while.
Sam's Suchi's updates lightning fast, she's on there albeit Tentative as we wait for smart people to max skills.

[forest palm]

Centaur...that would takes some explaining...

[versed pebble]

Where is Sam's?

[boreal wagon]

i think he means suchis

both of them are in /tierlist

[versed pebble]

Also, is it worth using prints on PR5 ships like Plymouth?
Oh, can I get the link? I only know ectl

[ivory pawn]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[versed pebble]

oh, like that

[sturdy oak]

Is hindenburg worth using without having a 2nd main gun?

[ivory pawn]

Both their names are purple and start with an s.

[weary gust]

She barely has a niche as it is even when at dev30 and one of the top dps vanguard units in the game, simply because raw damage isn't that valuable overall.

[rigid onyx]

no DPS ship is worth it pre MLB/dev 30

[vale flicker]

if a repeat sortie is interrupted (eg app closed) and 2x oil consumption item and oil is used, do they disappear?

[rigid onyx]

except for super edge cases

[turbid marsh]

ayyyy icehood

[limber pulsar]

I got Lion at 150 pulls, is it worth using another 100 cubes for the pity?

noice

[versed pebble]

Is it worth using rainbow prints for Plymouth?

[sturdy oak]

Farm time ig

[ivory pawn]

If they're season V prints, yes. If season VI or VII prints, no.

[versed pebble]

ty

So only use prints for their highest available season?

[primal silo]

Yeah
And don't use them on coinable seasons

[sweet schooner]

which one should i limit break?

[sterile jolt]

there are no functions for this or you need copies of the ship to put skins on copies

[weary gust]

So I keep skipping the end summary screen from daily hard mode runs by habit. Can anyone tell me how many meta mats drop/if they're guaranteed/consistent or random like the retro bps?

[faint cloud]

reasonable since centaur has 4 fighters/4 tbs with damn high rld, and her skills quite fit for heavy armor and the royal comp with lion and traffy come in

[tight drift]

wait

[versed pebble]

UR Priority + Op Sci Fleet Building Help

[forest palm]

it feels sketchy, like you have to see it to believe it type thing

[rigid onyx]

Always thought paper calcs overestimated bb damage a bit compared to CVS with stop

[forest palm]

that's the thing with most paper testing though

[weary gust]

Eh, BBs get burn damage that doesn't get accounted for and also CVs overestimate dive bomber damage by a lot ...

[sturdy oak]

Which worlds do i need a proper fleet to complete? I havent done story mode in a few years and left it at world 11

[weary gust]

13+. Even 13 can be pretty brute forced now as long as you don't use absolute crap AA units.

[rigid onyx]

I mean you can talk about a priori reasoning about paper calcs but BBs had higher paper damage than fritz/nakh/soy vs med/light but the hybrid comp was preferred

[sturdy oak]

Thanks

I’m a lil confused about how i should build my team. Ive been playing for quite a while and have a lot of stuff that i could and want to use

But there are only 6 team slots total 💀

[faint cloud]

can use it with no meta and helena to beat the qe meta so it seems atleast usable

[rigid onyx]

game isn't simple enough to be reduced to a 1d number of theoretical damage

[whole crypt]

that's just burn pog

[sweet merlin]

Who to mlb first

[forest palm]

Lion definitely

[ivory pawn]

I got 2-3 each run from 13-4 today. I remember seeing them always drop in previous days as well, so just the amount that varies.

[hollow gust]

When Lion does 1000+ damage burn per tick, truly a wows design

[whole crypt]

yeh but it works for QEM because of her mechanic, it's not nearly as pog for other METAs

[sturdy oak]

How do you build lion? Slap on the rainbow gun.. but what else?

[forest palm]

sorta like..."it's cool, but it's not all too impressive"

[whole crypt]

not MLB is kind of ehhhh
also you don't really gear her differently from other BBs

[sturdy oak]

Honestly idk how to build anything…

[whole crypt]

that's what I thought

[sturdy oak]

At best i can rely on the tierlist recc stuff

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[sturdy oak]

Ty..

I think my acc is in a p big mess rn 😂

[fierce lantern]

Can i use lion for opsi

[sturdy oak]

I dont have enough gear for anyone

Opsi is barely touched and i cant gear lab anything yet

And i still have to find myself a team comp

[whole crypt]

you can use Lion for basically everything

[whole crypt]

what chapter are you at, we can fix things here but it's going to take a while and we'll need more details

[sturdy oak]

Ch11. No issue with clearing anything but i have no clear direction on what i wanna do

[viral vortex]

Where do we get the 5th copy of Trinidad? It's not there in milestones

[whole crypt]

milestone ships are always 4 copies you'll need to use a bulin

[viral vortex]

Ok, thanks

[sturdy oak]

If youre talking factions wise, my units r mostly uss kms and ijn

Units i have p much built are
-NJ
-anchorage
-laffey
-shimakze
-unzen
-z52
-bismaek zwei? (Only have purple gun for her)
-Eldridge retro
-enterprise

I still have to finish building
-eldridge
-musashi
-lion
-kearsarge
-hindenburg
-alsace
-mogador

I dont think im gnna bother listing everyone

Been playing for a while but never really did anything besides the dailies and pulls for the past few years

[weary gust]

Screenshots are better than you listing your subjective opinions on what's done or not

[sturdy oak]

Hmm i can just send the roster list wait a sec

Nothing special ig

[whole crypt]

faction is generally unimportant

but not using non-MLB ships and learning gearing is a start

[sturdy oak]

Yeps. I pretty much only have non- gear lab weapons n some event stuff

Honestly i dont think i have any good planes for cvs or cvls

For BBs i have NJ and Lion’s rainbow gun

[flint fiber]

Ok I need some advice cause I don’t have either of theses ships and I’m thinking about using my event ticket to get one of these but I have no clue who would be more helpful for me Chapayev or baltimore or graf zeppelin or formidable

[sturdy oak]

Is using kearsarge here is fine for z52’s 5% debuff uptime?

[ocean trout]

am i done with the story now i unlocked this reset thing on the left side of the screen but i still see an exclamation mark

[river junco]

You didn’t unlock monthly arbiter yet (+ the red exclamation as you said)

[ocean trout]

new shop what should i buy?

[rough vale]

Anyone know where I can find the new event artwork?

[flint fiber]

Ok question who’s more useful outta theses ships Chapayev or baltimore or graf zeppelin or formidable I don’t have none of them so I’m hoping I can get some insight

[weary gust]

The HELPs and UR Books each month. Next month buy the Hidden Zone Logger and the 5k oil logger to make clearing it again easier. Buy the classified loggers as you have extra each month.

[wind hazel]

which art

[ivory pawn]

#gameplay-help message

[rough vale]

Login screen and loading screen artwork

[ocean trout]

these? i got enough same for ur books

[weary gust]

They're timegated income, and you'll go through the UR books during accelerated training events

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Loading_Screens

[ocean trout]

i wont, i never had isssues with books

[wind hazel]

holy shit

[weary gust]

Okay well if you barely play then yeah.

[viscid swift]

do you not use them or....

[ocean trout]

i do my dailies evey day, since game released so yeah i do play

[weary gust]

So you have all the ships skills maxed?

[ocean trout]

i do

[ocean trout]

all my lvl 120 +125 yes, of course not every ship that exists

[weary gust]

You shouldn't have UR books leftover aside from the blues and a few yellows if you've been using them during the accelerated training events.

[ocean trout]

i did use them every time, i never use ur books just the gold ones. as u can see i cant get rid of them , even if i wanted to lol

[weary gust]

Obviously you can't get rid of them if you don't use them ...

[ocean trout]

yes bu why should i use them when i had close to 700 blue and yellow gold books and 530 red ones.

[weary gust]

Because 12 hr 50% more exp insta skip x 10 is better than 8hr skip for less?

[viscid swift]

well the UR Books are just straight better for XP

[ocean trout]

i dont know why this turned into a discussion i just wanna see what to buy in opsi bcs thats truly the mode i didnt touch until now

[viscid swift]

both per book and time wise

[weary gust]

I mean this is like being offered $20 and $10 and picking the 10 because you have more $10 bills. There's just ... no reason to do that.

[ocean trout]

yeah but im in no rush. all my meta defining units are maxed, i just lvl for level sake

[viscid swift]

so you should generally be burning the UR Books during rapid training events

[weary gust]

Anyways, back to the shop, then don't buy the books if you don't want them. There's not that much useful from the voucher shop.

[ocean trout]

sure i wont, but u guys are right for efficiency sake i should do it but my ocd or w/e wants blue yellow and red to be balanced and i always use that to get rid of yellow and blue books so they are even. it doesnt even matter. this was not the point. why is it a discussion can we get back to opsi pls

[weary gust]

You can buy out the entire shop every month and still profit vouchers if you spend all AP.

So it's not really a limiting choice to begin with.

[wind hazel]

buy the hidden logger

[ocean trout]

what does AP stand for and what are profit vouchers

[weary gust]

AP is the energy currency to run maps in opsi. Vouchers are the tickets that items get turned into on month reset.

[ocean trout]

oh this?

[viscid swift]

Action Points, the "stamina" of OpSi if you will

[weary gust]

Use your AP ffs

[wind hazel]

you might want to start spending them

[viscid swift]

yeah

[weary gust]

That's like having 100k oil just sitting there equivalently.

that'll get lost on month reset in 6 days

[ocean trout]

like this?

[wind hazel]

ok chill bill gates

[weary gust]

Except that oil in your mail storage isn't being lost in a few days.

[ocean trout]

i have no issues with recources, i only do this super grind right now to build gear for eldrige in pvp. i hate the new gear system

[weary gust]

You haven't done Opsi at all so you're still poor in that regard and should spend all your AP.

How many gear lab mats do you have?

[wind hazel]

just pop a few AP boxes, strategic research, hidden, complete your hidden zones

then do your abyssals, then repeat c3/c5

[ocean trout]

yeah someone told me like 10 hours ago do the story first to unlock sth. i did that now and a bunch of pop ups for stoy came, guess im still not done

[ocean trout]

how do i check that? i think barely any?

[wind hazel]

oh lol you're still on story

[ocean trout]

its like u spoke another language mate,

[weary gust]

They're in your depot along with every other type of mat

[ocean trout]

are u talkin about these?

[weary gust]

Worse, he's been playing for many years and just now finished ch4

[ocean trout]

or these?

[weary gust]

The last two in that SS are some. So yeah you barely have any gear lab mats.

Which means your gear is very limited on most of your ships.

[wind hazel]

just complete your story first, we'll get back to the "another language" part later

[ocean trout]

they fine for pvp, at least in google doc checkings back then, dunno if sth changed

[wind hazel]

follow the red [!]

[weary gust]

pvp isn't a real gamemode What chapter have you cleared up to in campaign?

[ocean trout]

whenever it stopped during release ch 12 or 13

[weary gust]

Also don't +12 stuff, go to +13 one at a time.

[weary gust]

So yeah you've done no hard content at all.

[ocean trout]

i cant +13

[weary gust]

That 457 isn't a priority to +13 anyways

[ocean trout]

nah im just playing this game fo 6 years to goon, thats it

[weary gust]

I mean clearly, when you've ignored one of the most important game areas for fleet building for 4+ years.

[wind hazel]

let's move on from the scrutinizing, he came here for guidance

just guide him, stop pestering him on how he played

[ocean trout]

yup, pvp i just do it out of habit tbh and i hae the loosing screen. i couldf survive till now but eldrige in enemy setups can cause issues.
but i checked pvp and all her gear is gear lab

[ocean trout]

does this mean, everything is on auto?

bcs i dont rly have time to farm everyday like this. i play 6 other gachas

[wind hazel]

mostly, there will be some manual if you set to stop for akashi etc

[weary gust]

Yes, you can full auto opsi for hours at a time with no inputs at all (if you turn off stop on merchant which isn't ideal).

[ocean trout]

i see and the things i need for gear lab i can get from merchants or just from docks?

[weary gust]

The things you need to manually do are select the strongholds (red whirlpools) and abyssal loggers (boss encounters) along with the arbiter fights.

You buy most of it from the shops at the port in opsi. You get some from random drops while clearing maps.

[ocean trout]

these are the things i need for gold and ur rarity i have everything else

[wind hazel]

merchants will sell you the currency and AP boxes to get more materials that you want to get

[ocean trout]

so these to build can take weeks or months?

[wind hazel]

yes unfortunately, can't rush these things

[ocean trout]

big oof

[wind hazel]

if you want gear lab stuff then you need to start dedicating time for opsi

there's no going around it

[quick grotto]

Might be a silly question but while we're on Opsi, should I use the coordinate loggers I've been collecting or save them for vouchers on reset?

[ocean trout]

if its fully auto i can do it. if not i will have to suck it up :/

[weary gust]

Use them

[wind hazel]

it wont be 100% auto, sometimes game is dumb and you'll be stuck on siren structure along the path etc

[weary gust]

Ah yes I love coming back to seeing 50 enemies surrounding the spawner in a blockade

That only happens like once every few months though

[wind hazel]

you can afk for most but it needs some attention every now and then

[ocean trout]

well assuming i wanna do it proper, every day ,very dilligently. how much time does it take to do every single day? like 20minutes?

[wind hazel]

uh, maybe slightly more, depends on a lot of stuff really

sometimes daily give real easy missions, sometimes it put you on higher zone so enemies are higher level

[ocean trout]

thats fine, i can do my hsr/wuwa nikke etc dailies and run it on background and check on it from time to time.

alright, thanks for the input guys, appreciate it

[quick grotto]

Is there like a compiled list of fleets good for clearing certain content? Like a certain META for example?

[weary gust]

There are estalbished fleets for each META and Challenge Mode bosses yes, since those have very specific mechanics. There are recommended fleets for w14+ as well. I don't know where everything is kept but some are here

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Beginner's Guide to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking these out!
🔹 General FAQ from the Azur Lane wiki
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides by various authors about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips (By riceist)
• Common Resource Guide (By Sam)
• Research Guide (By Sam)
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[wind hazel]

w14 and 15 under /campaign

for META https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uz0UvQHsVUrlNz08Pc1IN04oABfMeiXTngfM8XJzRXo/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.fs96e9i6mxn2

[cobalt rapids]

cm is under https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/challenge-mode

[wind hazel]

event EX #media-content

[quick grotto]

Man... I need some LA-9s. xD

[cobalt rapids]

farm pr7

[quick grotto]

So... stupid question but what do you mean by farm PR7? As in put it as my research focus?

[ivory pawn]

Yep.

[wind hazel]

yes, and take Q riggings

[quick grotto]

Admittedly I've been doing PR4 to try for Agir blueprints. I'm guessing that's not optimal.

[wind hazel]

yes it's a total waste since you can coin agir nowadays

[sweet delta]

Extremely suboptimal

[weary gust]

There is no reason whatsoever to focus PR4 at all now.

Tenrai in gear lab and all ships in that series coinable.

[quick grotto]

Not like I'm anywhere near building Agir anyway. Tech points are a bitch to grind. xD

Any of the PR7 ships I should specifically be going for?

[forest palm]

Nakhimov mostly

[ivory pawn]

Napoli's good too, as is Bayard and Daisen.

[forest palm]

PR7 is more for the gear than the ships

Bayard and Daisen are kind of meh on the whole

[ivory pawn]

You'll get all the ships anyways on the way to multiple LA9s.

[quick grotto]

And what do we mean by Q-Riggings?

[grizzled stream]

q-type research

[ivory pawn]

It's the type of research project that costs gear plates.

[novel solstice]

"rigging analysis" research. The id will be Q-number.

[sweet delta]

Something like Q-302-MI

If you play on JP then there's no letter code

[serene moth]

do i want to switch to pr 7? im trying to get brest and mouth to 30?

[ivory pawn]

Probably just stick to PR5, especially if you're close to finishing Brest, Ply, and/or Plygun.

[cobalt rapids]

how close

[serene moth]

both a bit over 20

i could use the pr 6/7 prints to fasten the progress too i guess

[cobalt rapids]

personally i would switch

cannot farm ur gear and catchup with older season at the same time so pick ur poison
just keep in mind that ply and brest will go faster if u coin ur golds to fs5 first
pr8 also will drop in july
ply and brest will also most likely become coinable in january

[fierce lantern]

Which zones give you UR stuff in opsi

[cobalt rapids]

start clearing everything with a shiny icon above first

[fierce lantern]

Im not following

[celest shoal]

so uh
I'm about to get my 4th UR Bulin, but I wanted to know in advance who to MLB:
Lion, Trafalgar (which I'm hoping to get in a few days) or none and save for someone else (like New Jersey/Shinano from the Rookie Missions or someone that's coming in a rerun)

Lion is my only UR so far and she hasn't been limit broken yet, but is about to reach the level cap

• I can't really account for getting Trafalgar's 2nd copy because my fleet can barely get through D1

[cobalt rapids]

do u see these shiny icons ( yellow chests, swirly reds, red chests, green questions marks )
make them squeeky clean
they all drop stuff that is usefull including UR prints ( directly or indirectly )

[fierce lantern]

Alright thannk you

I got it

[proper cypress]

I'm a rookie player should I be spending any cubes on the wishing well or keep waiting and saving?

[ivory pawn]

Lion, easily.

[cobalt rapids]

lion

[sweet delta]

Lion, easily. If you don't have her yet

[celest shoal]

[wicked obsidian]

Hay i already pulled glorious META ...do i still need to get her from shop...............I mean i can just get her META crstal from shop for Limit break.......Corrrect me if i am wrong Plz...

[cobalt rapids]

event shop currency is much easier to get than meta shop currency

you only need crystals yes, cant even buy her if u alr have dropped

[misty dust]

how do i unlock the sp mode

[wicked obsidian]

not meta shop currency...with the event shop currency

[sweet delta]

Easier to get yes, but what else do you spend meta crystals on

[wicked obsidian]

oww..really

[foggy minnow]

which augment should i craft for Lion ?

[cobalt rapids]

meta skill books

[lofty zodiac]

15-4 help

[cobalt rapids]

only craft purple augments when ure rich btw

[sweet delta]

[wicked obsidian]

Buy it and show us

[foggy minnow]

thought i could to this mission and give her something usefull^^

[sweet delta]

/hardmode
Clear D3

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[cobalt rapids]

well thats stupid, nvm

[sweet delta]

Get a good gold augment

[foggy minnow]

and what is an good one ? as example for lion ?

[sweet delta]

Looks like that freshly cooked Google doc could be useful already

[wicked obsidian]

Should i buy the 4 META crystals 1st..or Prioritize something elese 1st ???( new)

[fierce lantern]

I dont have aquila can i use volga as a substitute

[sweet delta]

The rainbow gun, and consult #event-faq

[sweet delta]

Check by the New SKK rating, it'll depend on who you're using. San Diego is a good choice for example
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/augment-modules/

[wicked obsidian]

hay, my Vittorio Veneto's 3rd skill says i need a AP main gun.....But i dont see AP written on any Gun..so, what is this AP gun??

[sweet delta]

The ammo or shell type of the gun

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[sweet delta]

For example the two guns in the first row. Under pr3 and pr6

[celest shoal]

btw, is there anything like an "in-depth guide" for stats, guns or things like that?
I don't really understand most stuff, but I want to, rather than just seeing "gun good, slap gun"

[wicked obsidian]

cant see its details ..Dont have them

[sweet delta]

Then buy them ASAP. And in the meantime just use the same mk6 HE gun for Vittorio, because gum choice depends on the content she's playing not by a small bonus in her skills

[wicked obsidian]

But ...is it this type of gun...look

[hardy kite]

yeah under ammo type, says HE.

[wicked obsidian]

Oww..ok

[viscid swift]

Not really

[sweet delta]

It's complicated because there are many factors, so the only accurate way is to test in game or run a simulation. But if you have some experience, you can calculate the damage and then adjust for obviously bad gun characteristics like spread, reload time, or shell velocity

/wiki damage calculations

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations

[cobalt rapids]

unfortunately not
so you would have to check the damage calculations page on wiki and see how each thing comes into play and then draw the references
but theres alot of hidden stuff like pattern and real combat accuaracy

[sweet delta]

For the hard characteristics

[wicked obsidian]

After understanding the full game I think I could join the NAVY..

[sweet delta]

You can join the Navy without understanding

[viscid swift]

Modern warfare has changed a lot since ww2

[sweet delta]

If you understand the game fully, you can get a PhD

[wary bobcat]

I need assistance what’s the best equipment for trafalgar

[sweet delta]

Same as z52,the fast gun

[hardy kite]

the gold gear lab one?

[wary bobcat]

Any anyone here bought her skin? I want it but I’ve heard it’s lacking for a l2d

[sweet delta]

Single 113 yes, but if you're new to opsi then it's not worth crafting yet

[sweet delta]

That's a question for. #al-general

[wary bobcat]

Understood

[hardy kite]

ahh ok thx. i have a couple

[wary bobcat]

Anyways who’s better z52 or trafalgar

[hollow gust]

Z52

[celest shoal]

it's pretty much the opposite, I have started playing less than a month ago lol

[hollow gust]

Z52 does everything trafalgar is more niche

[sweet delta]

It would be fairer to compare Trafalgar to Z52 and Plymouth as a general purpose debuff+dps vanguard, for which the current verdict is

Personal dps: ply is plus or minus z52 depending on enemy armor, Trafalgar is 70% of z52

Fleet buff: Trafalgar best

Total boss fleet damage contribution: Trafalgar slight edge over ply and z52, large edge if with other royal Navy ships

Tankiness: z52 > ply > trafalgar

Campaign: z52 > traf >=? Ply

[celest shoal]

I see...

[sinful socket]

i can do Admiral Nakhimov research, should I do it now ?

[celest shoal]

thank you very much for the info

[sweet delta]

And z52 is better than Trafalgar for chapter 14+

[sinful socket]

thanks for the info, I don't need to bother investing into Trafalgar rn then

[celest shoal]

I knew the day all my Calculus lessons would actually be worth something would come...

[bleak dock]

Who is better: Ulrich or Lion?

[honest sequoia]

can gph here cook my calculus homework tho

[forest palm]

Lion and it's not even a competition lol

[bleak dock]

ah, so for more general use, Lion better?

[upbeat wagon]

Ulrich is powercrept

[eternal moth]

For EVERY use Lion is better

[upbeat wagon]

Most UR BB should be better compared to her

[bleak dock]

Oh no, i pulled Ulrich from wishlist banner xd

At least got her with just 3 pulls xd

[forest palm]

Ulrich, if you don't count Warspite, is the worst UR

[viscid swift]

I mean I took AP Calc BC in less than a semester so...

[bleak dock]

What about Trafalgar and Glorius META? Worth building?

[hollow gust]

I took all 3 calc and diff eq

And linear

[upbeat wagon]

trafalgar is worth buying yes

[bleak dock]

And how good is Glorius META?

[hollow gust]

Solid sr CV

[sweet delta]

Nani

[tame jungle]

bait

[bleak dock]

Enterprise still worth building?

[forest palm]

wrong gacha la

[forest palm]

yes

[sweet delta]

What even is the status of your account, nobody can answer you properly without knowing whether you have every UR CV already

[bleak dock]

Thats my box. What should i focus? Collab units, Glorius Meta, Trafalgar, Enter, Unicorns retro and Lion?

[sweet delta]

Do you have UR bulins?

[bleak dock]

1

Next to Lion

[sweet delta]

Is there a leveled Portland

[bleak dock]

No

[bleak dock]

I dont have her

[sweet delta]

This is very hard because you don't have SR bulins either

[bleak dock]

Yeah i have

Ah SR no xd

Confused with SSR

[sweet delta]

Do you have a leveled Helena?

You're getting baited by shiny rarity when non max limit broken rainbows and golds are iften worse than mlb purple ships

Darkness Unicorn Enterprise Momo Nana someone

[clear crane]

How do you raise EVA?

[sweet delta]

That's the one fleet, you can't afford a second fleet

[bleak dock]

Nop

[sweet delta]

Bring more DD or CL or evasion gear like hydraulic rudder

[bleak dock]

Sure ty

Im gonna farm for Trafalgar and Glorous META

[sweet delta]

Farm for the rainbow gun first

[clear crane]

Sadly don't have any. Is there any other way to get winged lion other than the sp stage then?

[sweet delta]

SP only gives 5 per day, there are many other sources. Read the pin

[nova crane]

is the UR gun from event shop good?

[paper walrus]

is there any cruiser aux aside from rudder that i should invest in

[sweet delta]

It's a bit better than NJ gun, the mk7. Making the event gun almost always the best HE BB gun

[paper walrus]

and the beaver

[cobalt rapids]

wdym invest
theres a bunch of 2nd eva auxes
sometimes its toolkit
somtimes its torp bulge
sometimes its offensive aux like fumo or oxy
but raising to +10 should be a non issue for a mid to lategame player

[paper walrus]

i meant similar aux that might be preferred in some cases so that i dont craft too many rudders

[cobalt rapids]

if survability is desired from an aux on a cruiser theres a 99% chance rudder will be equipped

[sweet delta]

"you can never have enough rudders" - Mebot, 2027

[stark quiver]

Rudders are good

[forest palm]

Gallant is the only one with shit tech, right?

[ivory pawn]

Cleo too, +2 AA.

[sleek spade]

Should I get bidder for the Italian Maggiore sub girl

[forest palm]

alright

[sleek spade]

Alright ty

[normal cedar]

worth crafting bf-109g so that I can use these type of fleets in opsi?

[sweet delta]

Worth +10, idk +13

[cobalt rapids]

if u skipped pr4 then at most craft 1-2 bfs

[normal cedar]

ahh I see, thanks
ive been doing series 5 from the start so ill craft them in that case

[cobalt rapids]

not the highest prio either
if u had good protocore management u could theortically protocore em

[spring basin]

is it worth to do the daily triples or just go hard on d3 ?

[cobalt rapids]

if u can lowcost 1:1 they are worth

[steep vortex]

[normal cedar]

what does this mean? isnt it the same thing.. her dmg = dmg of airstrike?

[cobalt rapids]

well if u hold ur airstrikes in manual the buff would affect both airstrikes if it proc on the first

and well xfleets are also affected

[sweet delta]

It also doubles her damage dealt from other sources

Like her barrage airstrike

Also technically it's +100% damage, not double damage

[normal cedar]

Oh I see, so it includes barrage as well
isnt +100% the same as 2x

[cobalt rapids]

if she was buffed from other sources say ara for example it goes from 1.15 ->2.15 and not 2.30

[undone plover]

I think double should stack with other buffs

[sweet delta]

It's additive with some certain other buffs. For example, when out of ammo, you have -50% damage. They add up to +50% damage. So you went from 50% damage to 150% damage, which is triple

[normal cedar]

hmm got it!
in that case is enty true double? her skill desc also reads similar to ark royal

[sweet delta]

She is also +100%

[normal cedar]

i see, thanks

[steep vortex]

I got character!

[cobalt rapids]

this place is for asking questions

[steep vortex]

Hence why im here

[cobalt rapids]

what is ur question

[forest palm]

riveting

[steep vortex]

Worth anything or in the closet she goes?

I got her from the event banner randomly lol

[split moon]

what ships do I prioritize on leveling

[cobalt rapids]

most likely in the closet
her use would be

1. ure a new player who just started so u would use her over penny
2. ure a late player farming for tech

[steep vortex]

I'm a day 3 player lol

My current team rn

[cobalt rapids]

then u can slot in bello

[steep vortex]

In replacement to whom?

[viscid swift]

Pennsylvania as we said earlier

[steep vortex]

When?^^

Oh

[viscid swift]

.

[steep vortex]

Is there anything I need to know about her in terms of new player knowledge i should know?^^

[normal cedar]

a cv's cooldown time is the average of her plane's?
so it isnt possible for any cv to launch 2 strikes - one of torps and one of divers separately?

also regarding the img, what's the point of having an airstrike closer to 20sec, its just wasted slow since her third skill gives 20sec barrage strike with slow anyways... it's better to get her as away from 20 sec as possible?

[upbeat wagon]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/

[viscid swift]

yes, it's a weighted average

[sweet delta]

No, her 20s barrage doesn't slow

[normal cedar]

I see, didnt know that...

[viscid swift]

and you'd want an airstrike cooldown closer to 20 secconds among other to stay in sync with Helena longer for instance

[steep vortex]

Umm....where do i navigate lol

[upbeat wagon]

Read the newbie tips part

[sweet delta]

Even if it did slow, slows stack. A 60% slow alone still lets TBs miss often

[undone plover]

For calc cooldown better use lars calc
Renhex tool doesnt take into account skills

[normal cedar]

oh I see, can you share the lars tool? its not there on samheart's site
ark royal is still fine to use with bb's or is duke better for bb's?

[upbeat wagon]

How is FdG compared to other UR BB's right now?

[hoary relic]

Is bf109g good to use?

[sweet delta]

Second worst after warspite for bossing.
Top 3 for mobbing up to chapter 14

[paper walrus]

i got lion, do i switch to wishing well now?

[upbeat wagon]

Would raff or her be better for mobbing?

[steep vortex]

Guess i should have clarified...Oops I ment with her in particular is there any information I should know about her that's relevant to a new player lol

[light trail]

when do pr seasons become coinable usually

[upbeat wagon]

oh sorry, id say read the early ship reccomendations part than, it should explain a bit

[viscid swift]

late January Early February is when the next batch usually gets coining

[undone plover]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/

[viscid swift]

not really

[light trail]

i see tyty. by that time i dont think I'd need it tho

[undone plover]

How many cubes do you have?

[normal cedar]

thanks!!

[boreal wagon]

@vale spindle can u put me onto the live version of ecgc

[paper walrus]

925

[sweet delta]

Same

[viscid swift]

have you got Bismarck Zwei

[upbeat wagon]

Why is FdG good at mobbing compared to bossing?

[undone plover]

Then yes
Do you have aquila or aurora?

[light trail]

this probably shouldnt take more than 7 months to finish right

[paper walrus]

no

[paper walrus]

only aurora

[viscid swift]

proxy barrages, it's wide, and ignores shields

[mellow cape]

Honestly at that point I'd move onto pr7 and let them become coinable

[viscid swift]

among others

[light trail]

i just finished pr7

[undone plover]

U can do special ww for aquila + (albion/centaur/volga) or a submarine u need

But I recommend u do a few pulls daily and dont spend a lot

[mellow cape]

How many la9s?

[light trail]

1

[viscid swift]

sure then but don't go too crazy

[light trail]

i at least wanna finish kear tho

[vale spindle]

wait i thought u were there already one sec

[boreal wagon]

add suchi too

[paper walrus]

Im guessing i can mlb lion right away without worrying about saving bulins right?

[light trail]

she's really the only one that matters from here rn i think. i have agir and napoli (and others) so I'm not hurting for tanks or damage vangaurds

[undone plover]

Yeah mlb lion

[cobalt gate]

back to needing 300k cog

[mellow cape]

Low-key id probably got for 3 la9s but if you want kear and have a plan, I guess you can :0

[light trail]

maybe i go
finish kear -> back to pr7 for more la9 -> finish pr6 by coins

[turbid marsh]

hmmm dont really need 4 +13 la9s anymore with the addition of lion i guess l

[stark quiver]

so
waste time > spend little time in pr7 > decent choice

[viscid swift]

I'd just finish Kearsarge with BPs you get from shops tbh

[light trail]

is she not used in things

[stark quiver]

there are alternatives

[light trail]

I thought she was great for light with yk2

[mellow cape]

Very niche.. do you have York town 2

[stark quiver]

she is, but there are alternatives

[mellow cape]

If not, id say she's a skip lol

[light trail]

i have yk2

[stark quiver]

use catchup, shop bps, and event bps to finish kear, no need to spend extra time in pr6

[stark quiver]

do you need kear

[light trail]

probably not, but i do want her

[stark quiver]

refer here

[mellow cape]

Low-key your collection benefits way more from 2 more la9s than a kearsarge

Amagi, nakhimov, fritz to name a few

[light trail]

alright

[stark quiver]

you....... dont even need to do pr6 to max kear

[quick grotto]

If grinding tech points, is it worth leveling low rarity ships to 120 or just MLB them and save the chips for higher rarity ships?

[mellow cape]

120 is needed for max tech points

[stark quiver]

just mlbing is fine
when youre grinding tech points, its also nice to know what 120 bonus the ship gives

[vale spindle]

hes on ecgc 2 (and so are you)

[boreal wagon]

ecgc 2 isnt live ecgc tho

i was asking u to add me to the version everyone visits not the spin off no one looks at
so did suchi
but i saw u just did in a commit

[light trail]

what type of plane does nakhimov like to take in slot 2?

[stark quiver]

depends

[cobalt rapids]

depends on content
refer to cheekys plane list

[stark quiver]

what are you trying to fight

[light trail]

where's that list

[light trail]

light opsi boss

[stark quiver]

hvar

[cobalt rapids]

im not responsible for the flash bomb

[stark quiver]

my eyes hurt

[light trail]

interesting thanks

[stark quiver]

[paper walrus]

ive asked this before but i still dont get it. How do i pick ammo type for mobbing? If i wanna make a boss fleet for lets say 13-4 i go to wiki, see that taihou has heavy armor and i just choose an AP gun. How do i choose for the mob fleet?

[sweet delta]

Choose Twin 457mm, usually

[cobalt rapids]

mk6 and mk7 for when below w13 and twin 457 for when above and incl w13
or twin 410 purple if ur name is musasi

[frigid needle]

I wish to change the language from English to German, is that achievable

[cobalt rapids]

not achievable

[paper walrus]

if i dont have twin 457?

[sweet delta]

nein

[cobalt rapids]

then u use a 20s ap gun like champy

[twin isle]

this s so confusing, why elite gear_?

[paper walrus]

ok thanks 🙏

[cobalt rapids]

because good

[viscid swift]

because Musashi needs an IJN main gun for her improved barrage

[sweet delta]

because it's fast which makes it good for campaign waves

and where tf is daisen gun

[twin isle]

So actually we need UR IJN main gun in the future

[cobalt rapids]

same realm with plygun

[paper walrus]

ok in that case when would i use lion gun?

[cobalt rapids]

thats a better mk7

[viscid swift]

anyway for refferemce
last 3 columns are light, medium, and heavy armor damage respectively

[sweet delta]

what an updated gear recommendation, with To Love Ru aux but not Daisen gun. And baiting new players to craft nep gun in 2025

[paper walrus]

i mean w12 is so easy that it doesnt even matter what you use. Does that mean that lion gun is useless lol

[cobalt rapids]

its also best vs light bosses

[sweet delta]

You should remember that there are light armor bosses outside of campaign

[paper walrus]

ok so basically always twin457/champy unless against light armor boss

[stark quiver]

and champy sidegrades

[viscid swift]

well Raffaello gun mixed things up a bit

and Musashi has her own gear requirements

[twin isle]

Hmm so skill activation put its weight with the right gear no matter what tier

[viscid swift]

and yeah the Champagne gun sidegrades

[viscid swift]

in Musashi's case, for the most part yes

[paper walrus]

ok finally got it thanks!

[next plover]

any know how i change shimanto new skin to 2nd skin pls?

[twin isle]

Thanks

[viscid swift]

there should be a toggle somewhere, might be a bit hidden

[next plover]

huh? srry bad english --> german

[viscid swift]

uhh, sorry I don't speak german like at all

[next plover]

np then simple english for stupid pls

[viscid swift]

there is a switch somewhere

on the screen

I think it was to the right

[light trail]

idk if threads show up again by themselves when a message is sent so imma just link this here https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1251088141381533808

[next plover]

ah found

[boreal wagon]

i was about to explain it in german

[stark quiver]

[next plover]

@viscid swift under the events "button"

[paper walrus]

ok as a continuation to this, what about ca guns?

[jaunty vault]

CA guns are uhh complicated

if you're new-ish
twin203mm skc (iron blood gold gun from tech box should work almost everywhere)

[paper walrus]

honestly my account is starving for ca guns so i need to craft something, aside from the protocore rainbow ones asap

[viscid swift]

the Eugen gun is fine

[light trail]

what would be a good fleet for current challenge mode

[paper walrus]

which one should i strive to get later?

[viscid swift]

Hindenburg gun

[stark quiver]

https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/may the fleet here

[viscid swift]

much much later though

[sweet delta]

Fritz Implac and...Raffaello? Where's Nakhimov?
Aegir Helena Ply

[paper walrus]

im gonna buy one soon, but what about crafting/gearlab

[stark quiver]

dreke gun is good if you have nothing better to use ords on

[viscid swift]

none of them are high priority

focus on other stuff first

[stark quiver]

@sweet delta

i pinged two people in one message 💀

[paper walrus]

🙏

[light trail]

damn im really fucked by not having soyuz

rerun cant come soon enough at least next year I'll have every ur and wont be hurting anymore

[hollow gust]

You don't need Soyuz

[proven mist]

Why are my ports red in opsi? I can't access the port resupply too...

[stark quiver]

those are axis ports, go to blue ports

[atomic abyss]

some are blue, access those ones for resupply instead

[proven mist]

Trueee... I can only access them? I thought I can change red to blue somehow..

Thanks though!

[vale spindle]

no i added u specifically to ecgc live as well

[compact gulch]

Will I be able to get friedrich Carl anywhere else besides the event it appeared in?

[viscid swift]

no

[meager tiger]

not unless shes added somewhere else

[cobalt rapids]

when she will finally be archived in the permanent banners

[meager tiger]

if you go to memento > collection > sort by unowned ships you can click each individual ship and see where to acquire them

[compact gulch]

Damn I wanted her new skin😭

[upbeat wagon]

Is yat sen tank? Does she need special aux?

[cobalt rapids]

u can get the skins in advance

[hollow pier]

Is there a good place to ask about fleet building help? I feel like Im settling into the mid-game comfortably but I want to work harder on setting up 4 good op-sci fleets and gearing those ships specifically.

[cobalt rapids]

she needs special teammates

[compact gulch]

Guess that’s true

Thanks!

[cobalt rapids]

here in a thread if u have big dock

[hollow pier]

Oh gosh Im not used to making threads. I guess I can take a shot at it. I have 9 images to share

That have my UR/ SSR ship collection

[cobalt rapids]

separated by main and vanguards

[hollow pier]

Ah, that would be wisdom. Is there a convenient way to sort bulins out?

[cobalt rapids]

sort by level puts them at the end of their rarity

[hollow pier]

Really? All of my bulins appear ahead of my level 1 SSRs

[cobalt rapids]

i mean its fine just post it, ihave seen bigger docks

[hollow pier]

aight Ill get taking sorted screenshots then.

[stark quiver]

same

[meager tiger]

i too have seen lots of large things that start with d and end with cks

docks of course

[atomic abyss]

and im looking at one right now 🦆

[meager tiger]

[upbeat wagon]

[slow fox]

-# I need to eHP4 smh

-# Keep eHP version number 2x ECGC mumber

[boreal wagon]

does that mean the current ecgc is actually ecgc 1.5

[slow barn]

Guys, which is better. z52 or agir for my tank fleet in opsiren?

The fleet consist in this:
Lion, Vanguard, Musashi
z52/Agir, Trefelgar, Plymounth

[atomic abyss]

z52, but i would rather use z52 for a CV comp

[slow barn]

In my CV fleet im using anchorage.

[atomic abyss]

and z52 would be better there as a tank and a buffer

since agir still has use for a BB comp with her armour breaks

so your call

[slow barn]

Hmmm, ok. Ty

[last zenith]

going all damage main fleet I see

[atomic abyss]

thats... normal for opsi boss comps though?

[viscid swift]

if anything it's a bit on the weak side for damage

[last zenith]

:0 true. but u sacrifice stuff for big fat damage.

[atomic abyss]

what stuff

[viscid swift]

like what

[slow barn]

Its a fleet with BB damage focus.

[stark quiver]

thats... all of azur lane, idt any fleet is built not for damage

[split gazelle]

cant die if the enemy dies before they can shoot

[last zenith]

I suppose

[atomic abyss]

healers have no place in bossing content

because... they dont deal as much dmg

the whole point of a boss comp is to kill the boss in that singular battle

you wont be going thru sustained pressure like in a mob fleet

[last zenith]

I like to bomb. But my choice

[atomic abyss]

then that's a carrier comp though

[last zenith]

ya

[atomic abyss]

and he's making a BB comp here
mixed fleets dont usually turn out well unless it's specfically kearsage with yk2 or soyuz with nakhi

[slow barn]

Yeah, i have a CV and now a BB comp for that.

[last zenith]

true...

[last zenith]

looks wrong. use all your xp books

[viscid swift]

that would a pretty massive waste of XP books

[stark quiver]

1. itll take literally thousands
2. its a waste when you can farm xp
3. the books can go to getting tech ships from 0-70/100 for easaier tech grind

[last zenith]

hmmph.

then stick them in the dorm and farm until you send your soul to the staff

[viscid swift]

what

[last zenith]

am I wrong?

[viscid swift]

I think you're vastly overestimating the XP grind

it's isn't that long or difficult

[thorn tartan]

I''m trying to farm UR prints. What's the best research? I'm not really getting much from 1 and 2 hour rigging research......

[opaque galleon]

Does sov soyuz need to be slowed down in a 4 la9 fleet?

[hollow gust]

there are alot of timing you can use

[last zenith]

It does take a while

[stark quiver]

rigmaxxing

[stark quiver]

you can run 80 cv rld and not have that problem i think

[pseudo hearth]

Is it worth me having more than 3 white shells? Also, is it worth grabbing more black shells if I already have a lot of HSFCRs?

[opaque galleon]

You can’t have that in meta fights

[viscid swift]

farm in 12-1 and you'll be done soon enough

[last zenith]

13-4 for me. my issue is my morale:9

[stark quiver]

hold up

[viscid swift]

I don't know why you'd farm in 13-4 unless farming for Bunkerhill

can't level 12 shitters at the same time in 13-4 like you can with W12

[last zenith]

I only got one of her:(

[stark quiver]

0BB 42CV

[meager tiger]

where gamer table

[atomic abyss]

would desync

[meager tiger]

oh wait 15% boost

i knew that

[river remnant]

how many copies do i need to fully limit break a UR ship? i did 100 pulls and got 4 copies xD

[stark quiver]

5 Copies
1 as the actual ship and then 4 other dupes, stop pulling

[opaque galleon]

Why are you using lion gun lmao

[stark quiver]

why would i not?

[sweet delta]

Why would you

Why la9 with HE gun

[opaque galleon]

Raffaello gun or sov soyuz gun

[stark quiver]

brain fart

here you go

[wary skiff]

should i pick up extra nakhimov prints if i have all the prints for her? i need 9 but theres a gold / purple / blue queued up rn for her and idk if its good to overcap or not

[viscid swift]

I mean, the extra prints are either additional prototype cores or you save them for her FS about 5 years down the line

[wary skiff]

i definitely dont have the saving mindset

i imagine if fs comes around she would be coinable by then ayways

[honest stirrup]

I've heard that an optimal launch order for that comp is Amagi, Implac then Shinano but uh... I don't think I can do better than this
Is it fine as it is or do I need to somehow space up to ensure a correct order?

[atomic abyss]

the optimal is impla in the middle of the 2

[honest stirrup]

yes that's what I said

[atomic abyss]

it doesnt have to be amagi first

it can be nano first too

[stark quiver]

dont put amagi in flag

[honest stirrup]

I didn't quite understand why sushi specifically wants for Amagi to launch first

[atomic abyss]

"because the reload times are so close together"

[viral shadow]

Best type of gun for trafalgar? Notmal dd dmg gun or the one with low reload times?

[atomic abyss]

im guessing it's the specific loadout suchi is using

[honest stirrup]

... yes?
And my reload times are even closer than what was shown in the sample

[atomic abyss]

single 113

[wary skiff]

how different is implac / shinano / haku? i dont have amagi and im currently raising implac and haku

[stark quiver]

its good

[atomic abyss]

good but noticeably weaker

[viral shadow]

Spam demon it is

[honest stirrup]

I think I found a way to fix the issue I had anyways, I've put a Junkers on my Amagi instead of Aichi B7A, which reduced the reload. And since she now reloads 0.07s faster than Implac I don't think I need Amagi to be flag anymore

[cobalt rapids]

translation : since the times are so close together that a diff of 0.02s is basically treated almost the same as 0 the game will default to the order of flag > top > bottom so this ensures a good order is respected

[honest stirrup]

oh thanks

But how close is too close? Is 0.07s enough of a difference for the game to override the flaship priority?

I mean, I can anways test myself

[atomic abyss]

the issue is "it can vary"

[cobalt rapids]

0.03 ish

[stark quiver]

then again if you have good gear and tech, you can just make a looser comp and still win because you win fast

[honest stirrup]

challenge mode tho

[blissful marlin]

How good is Trafalgar

[atomic abyss]

very good, AA carry and a debuffer
expected to be a more niche side grade to z52 for bossing

[blissful marlin]

Ty

[pseudo hearth]

Asked earlier, but I didn't get a response, but is it worth me having more than 3 white shells? Also, is it worth grabbing multiple black shells if I already have a lot of HSFCRs?

[stark quiver]

3 white shellls is enough if you dont care abt gear swapping, have like 3 black shells i guess, idk if youll even use more than 1-2 black shells that oftne tho

[pseudo hearth]

My question though is is it even worth having more than 1 or 2 black shells at this point since I have so many radars?

[undone plover]

probably not
u can default to radar for levelling fleets

unless u are running 2-3 BB fleets in opsi and u want them all on black shell (for some reason) then 1-2 (max 3) is enough

[paper walrus]

i usually default to using a pair of white and black shell on BBs. Is that not the recommendation anymore?

[undone plover]

white + radar better in most situations

in opsi u avoid the 20 second debuffs
in meta fight it gives an extra rotation (or at least partially)
it gives acc which is almost always useful
and in campaign/mob it helps desync from CVs
also faster salvo might even end battle faster which is good

[stark quiver]

squeezing in that extra full even half salvo is good,

[pseudo hearth]

I see, I've got more radars than I even need anyway

[light trail]

i have 3 white shells +13 and 531 aux plates, would it hurt me or be bad to +13 one or two more?

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[slow barn]

This team is enough to beat w15 with 3 stars?

[cobalt rapids]

/campaign give the guide a read and make it safe before 3* to save sanity

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Chapter 14 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief/
Chapter 15 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[viscid swift]

as is no

[undone plover]

eventually UR radar will be added to some shop and u want 3 of that at +13 if u can unless they limit it
u should not waste aux plates

[grim siren]

+13 the UR SAP gun won't hurt right?

[undone plover]

it wont hurt
but u might want to +13 other guns first

what guns do u have at +13?

[grim siren]

I have 2 +13 Champagne gun, 1 +13 NJ gun, 1 +13 Twin 457, 1 +13 100mm kai, 1 +13 Lion gun

[meager tiger]

now get 20 +11 purple mk6

[undone plover]

maybe do 1 flandre gun first but tbh next month meta is kawakaze anyway so that wont matter

also ply gun should probably be in your priority list now

[dusky narwhal]

Just want to make sure, I finish yk II then after I start lion or do I start on the event shop UR

[undone plover]

i would actually probably do plymouth gun before the SAP UR gun considering the next meta fight

but u might want to hold off and see what fleet ppl cook before committing your plates

[meager tiger]

for a pvp soyuz/alsace/musashi - eldridge retro/laffey2/jintsuu meta fleet is there a viable replacement for soyuz?

[undone plover]

u only have 2 bulins?
what is your total bulins u can get?

[undone plover]

ask in #pvp better tbh

[meager tiger]

[dusky narwhal]

Just two I haven't really played since farming york town two

[undone plover]

and spec core?
and current event milestone? and cruise pass? all claimed?

i would in all cases do Lion > trafalger/yorktown
probably trafalger over yorktown

[stark quiver]

Lion

[meager tiger]

[dusky narwhal]

Just checked I haven't gotten the UR bulin from either cruise pass or event mile stone

[undone plover]

make sure u get the cruise pass one by the end of the month
also they updated medal shop with even more spec core so grab that as well

In any case yorktown kind of wants kearsarge and yours is not dev30
even tho u have top BB I would still go for lion

[dusky narwhal]

I got the more spec already and I'll try to snag the cruise pass one and also how good are the URs from this event? Compared to my URs at least

[night crown]

Which of the meta characters should I get?

[forest palm]

none of them have any practical use for the average player

[night crown]

Ill save up the crystals then

[glad light]

so leveling up BB and carriers is easy since they dont take much damage in the back, but how do u level up vanguards who are always taking damage up front?

[viscid swift]

just gear them well

[forest palm]

whether they take damage or not is of little importance, so long as they just live to soak the XP earn, outside of that Main Fleet does have Flag Ship bonus and an easier time to get MVP which both of these factors can give way more XP than what the Vanguard will earn

[meager tiger]

does anyone have the link to the timing calculator tool?

trying to line up my soyuz/rumey/nakhimov bossing fleet

[forest palm]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/

[meager tiger]

thx

[undone plover]

Lion is top of the line BB
and trafalger is around plymouth/z52 level for offensive utility (so also top of the line)

[fickle meteor]

hhhhii i jusr started playing n i just wanna ask if theres anything i should know incase i make a obvious mistake like waste materials or anything

just like the dos n donts

[terse roost]

When formidable rerun

[final socket]

Do your weapons keep their enchant levels when they are upgraded via the gear lab?

[viscid swift]

she's already in the perma pool

[viscid swift]

no but you get refunded 100% of the plates used and 25% of the coins

[undone plover]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips follow this guide
Push a bit in story then start on event

[dusky narwhal]

So basically have priority over shima and Yorktown by a lot as my account is very heavily in favor of BBs as it's all I really have

[undone plover]

biggest mistake is pulling on perma banner
only pull on event banners

[meager tiger]

https://mrlar.dev/s/def57d487ecc368642d3ecdb4d2c864243e0fcc3

trying to sync my nakhimov/rumey/soyuz backline for gneisenau meta fight but i cant push soyuz forward, any tips?

[undone plover]

basically yes
yorktown's usage is a bit niche/restricted
mainly wants kearsarge
that is why just better MLB lion imo

[grave ivy]

Does lion require 6CRH AP shell?

[undone plover]

did u input your tech?

[undone plover]

possible
I have not seen the calcs of yellow vs white shell
maybe wait a few days for the smart ppl to do the calcs

[meager tiger]

negative, how do i do that?

[undone plover]

top left

[meager tiger]

im blind ty

[dusky narwhal]

Alright then kewl! Also I didn't read about her much anywhere so what is she good at? Like does she do better against anything specifically? Like how musashi is good but is better at heavy and same with bisko at light

[undone plover]

play with your tech
u probably need 0 BB rld and max CV to make them sync with each other

[undone plover]

Light armor might be her best but she pretty much excells in everything (maybe even pvp )

[dusky narwhal]

Oh so that's why she's so high priority lol and for triple BB does it choose Soyuz or Alsace for the last slot assuming the other two are bisko II and Lion

[night crown]

I can’t find the level, aws, and FP requirements for Hardmode C1 Rose tower, anyone got the info?

[undone plover]

one of the two
probably alsace I think
there was some calcs/testing by yahoo if u want to search them or wait till ppl max lion and test her

if anything it will be close so probably doesnt matter much

soyuz also likes to be with fritz + nyakhimov anyway so there is also that

[meager tiger]

yeah nvm with tech theyre all synced within a 10th of a second, thanks again

[dusky narwhal]

Ahh well I do remember that so might as well plus both are max level and have solid enough gear so it's fine and one last question but is the lion gun BiS?

[night crown]

Oh, it’s in the select fleet screen Thank you

[undone plover]

Lion gun is BiS vs light armor
u should not marry your ships to your guns
change the guns depending on content

[fickle meteor]

what does oil do ૮ ◞ ﻌ ◟ ა

[dusky narwhal]

Yeah I know I don't I switch around based on armor types and stuff but I was too lazy to go check the guns modifiers so I just asked if it was better over anything in specific

[meager tiger]

mfw no helena buff proc

[undone plover]

u need oil to sortie with your ships
it is basically like a stamina system

[fickle meteor]

oothatmakes so much more sense thank you smuch

[undone plover]

very slightly better than NJ gun
in practice it is a sidegrade to that gun

[meager tiger]

https://mrlar.dev/s/def57d487ecc368642d3ecdb4d2c864243e0fcc3

sorry another question

all 3 are perfectly synced on first shot/launch, but after that soyuz starts firing early and i cant figure out why

vanguard is plymouth/helena/z52

[sweet delta]

did you test it in game?

[dusky narwhal]

Makes sense and I think I only have like one NJ gun anyways so kewl and thanks for answering all my questions!

[undone plover]

no problem

[meager tiger]

yes

[undone plover]

what tech did u input
I forgot if the tech is local or can be shared with the url

[stark quiver]

Did you adjust tech
Did you account for oaths

[meager tiger]

tech yes

oaths no, soyuz is oathed with 200 aff but nakhimov and rumey are not, both at 100 aff

[undone plover]

i meant give me the numbers so I double check on my end

[meager tiger]

for tech i went to fleet tech > details and put in all the numbers

[meager tiger]

is there a way to consolidate the numbers or should i just screenshot

[undone plover]

the link u shared shows soyuz not oathed maybe that is why
u need to click her and change to oath here
probably that is why

[sweet delta]

then why didn't you put it on the calculator?

[stark quiver]

Do you have the necessary reload tech
And cats

[meager tiger]

its my first time using it

[undone plover]

I just wanted BB and CV RLD tech the rest doesnt rly matter for this purpose

[forest palm]

bloated menues

[stark quiver]

Oaths give more reload, and can throw off timings by a lot

[meager tiger]

going in order from left to right on the tool, its 8/8/8/7/38/36

[forest palm]

it's 1.12x more to all but Spd and Lck

[meager tiger]

i just put in the oath as well

[stark quiver]

Now you can adjust timing as is

[meager tiger]

its a meta fight so i dont think cats are used?

https://mrlar.dev/s/dde0185e58ffb5c1e1e9aa496cdebb67d1e8ec24 new link with tech and oath inputted

[stark quiver]

Oh it’s meta?

[meager tiger]

gneisenau meta

[undone plover]

I would do this
make your BB tech 0
and put your double La9 on fritz
her slots are stronger than nakhimov

[meager tiger]

u can change bb tech?

[undone plover]

yes go to fleet tech in game

and set BB as 0

[meager tiger]

bb only, not the subclasses like monitor/bbv?

[undone plover]

no that doesnt matter
u are not running them in this fight

[meager tiger]

ic it only affects ships of the exact same class?

so just set bb rld tech to zero?

[undone plover]

yes and change the gear like how I did it

[meager tiger]

ok

is cat ears aa necessary on rumey for the extra hit stat?

[undone plover]

pretty much yeah
i dont remember if ppl run CL gun on her instead tbh

[meager tiger]

[stark quiver]

More hit good

[undone plover]

but between her and soyuz just give her the best things
do 1 fight and u will see why u should focus your good stuff on fritz instead of soyuz

[meager tiger]

i alr one cycled her with the scuffed loadout that didnt have tech and oath optimizations

lets see how this one does

[frozen solstice]

Which war archive is best to make?

[undone plover]

tbh I thought this was for hornet but anyway it shouldnt matter

[undone plover]

if u are low on KMS tech divergent chessboard
otherwise the rest dont rly matter that much
can do universe in unison/PP for the cosmic kicks (forgot which one has them)

[meager tiger]

ah nvm i messed up

i put down 3 la9s and i only have 2, the 3rd plane is a skyraider

[undone plover]

oh

[meager tiger]

its fine actually i made the adjustments and they still sync

nakhimov at 21.02 and rumey at 20.88