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Yeah I also had that and I couldn't get into top 1k
Can get top 100 with 15 missed..
really?? 
Pretty much. I’ve swear I’ve seen more mafia fleets in top 1k - 2k than top 500
i have a bulin defense fleet
Every other roll is 4 mafia fleets
I guess Seydlitz is PvP meta
Of course you do get pts
But Lutzow isn’t
In Amagi there are no defence fleets 
imagine putting up real defenses
Mafia is free 
Must be nice
free lose 
it's like 75% actual defense fleets and 25% free wins in amagi
I’ve heard Avrora is PvP competitive

I feel like it is
So many mafia fleets

I can beat some
But if their vanguards are too good
It’s doomed
i wish there was an option for pvp exclusive gear equip
Ehh. Isn’t rainbow pearl
no
i mean
Manjuu is pretty PvP exclusive
pvp ships have gear options for pve and pvp
I see
not necessarily
because switching their gear out for pve is tiring
there are only two equips whose effects are strictly pvp
but their stats still apply in pve
I give my Manjuu to St. Louis. It’s pretty funny seeing an off meta ship being last vanguard left and screwing up their CV fleets.

manju stloui new meta??
If only there was a universal yellow augment
She’s surprisingly okay?
She’s not super strong or anything
But if she gets some lucky
Lucky Lous
that dress is too loose
the power of wife always wins

She lasts an okay time
I put my manjuu on SF 
It’s okay. She’s wearing it for me. 

Wished I had a sexy bofor for her but I need it on Sandykai.
My main fleet is Lutzow and Seydlitz and they have no anti air
she doesnt need a bofor to be sexy
TRUE
Maybe I should level up Sandy to level 120
She’s the only ship in my PvP fleet not at least level 120 yet.
Who has the better anti air anyways. Cheshire or Sandy?

sandy
This you?
I had a hard time against that fleet 
sure you do 
Lol. So many of my ships really on luck I keep retrying until I win.
collusion
Ya it was so free even my lvl 67 apprentice can win 
The only thing that screws my fleet over is if they have really strong tanky vanguards
Or a ton of preloads that even Seydlitz can’t keep up
Hiryuu tilts me more than NJ at this point. It’s kinda sad.
Consider using a torpedo ship
Torpedo ship? How come?
I don’t have Yukikaze sadly. 
Started when Howe and Perseus rerun a while ago
So I don’t have her UR item
Either
yuki not yuudachi
Yukikaze is permanent light pool
Oh
she'll drop on you if you do light everyday
The one that reduces damage to 1
I heard yukikaze made a top ladder player lose a game
No Yukikaze. I have 4 Suzutsuki’s tho trying to get Kashino
I got Shinano 34 pulls in
I’m like 90 pulls now
No Kashino

The feeling of superiority when Yukikaze completely tanks a NJ barrage
Suzutki is a sleeper pick
Why I find her so annoying
I just thought she had a lot of luck
- evasion
Turns out she has ignore damage skill
that feeling of yukikaze is the last one alive instead of your anchorage 
Anchorage is easier to kill for me than Yukikaze
Lutzow and Seydlitz both run AP guns
Which suck against destroyers
How come?
Not to mention her high speed 
Smokescreen good
I used her against mafia fleets back when anchorage didn’t exist
She very strong
I fought a fleet with the three Le’ French destroyers and I think they had beaver badge too
I wished I recorded it
They’re so fast
Legit nothing hits
You can see a video of suzut performance in my channel
Tadmeister strats 
Was it Tadmeister?
Sniped 

I don’t remember but I found it more annoying than your typical mafia fleets vanguards
Forgot how to spell his name
Lutzow and Seydlitz would fire their barrage
And the destroyers would be 6 miles away
is Suzutsuki a nice option for PvP
If u don’t have anchorag
Sounds really good against quick loads
Can Shinano substitute Perseus in PvP?
soo... i got shinano
can i do the epic poggers IJN PvP meta team
Perseus is really nice because her preload reveals the enemy CVs
For my Lutzow and Seydlitz quick loads to hit
I see. Makes sense
Depends on the rest of your fleet
Shinano is ideally ran with Haku and Noshiro?
Haku is stinky in pvp
Wait not Noshiro
Shinano goes with hiryu and ni
Who’s that BB in IJN
Nuggetoes?
NJ
That buffs IJN CVs

Nagato yes
I ran weeb fleet this season
That was pretty much the meta back before the italian hoes and nj were added
Nugget hiryu shinano with ijn frontline
Hiryu makes me insurmountably angry
There was one PvP fight I lost
Because I thought I was winning
3 of my backline vs one Hiryu
I lost
15 seconds is too long 
That’s not what she said
I kept using UvH, didn't seem like she's that useful despite her barrage
Correct
but then again there are people using it even together with WNT and doing well 
Doesn't take much to do well in pvp, just have a decent comp with good gear
same could be said about whole game
i caught 2 people rushing for aotn
i got +2 in 20 mins

so this is what you mean by aotn luck
+2 is kinda low for aotn rush time 

Harbin can be new pvp meta ?
Could be an interesting option to run alongside Shima
Big potential
Ancho + Shima + Harbin, the balanced approach. Or, full torp meme: Noshi/Shima/Harbin
Hard to measure PvP performance using the Simulation feature
Imagine the stall fleets
1min+ battles are back 
Harbin and Plymouth are sorta broken. By far the best overall CL's in the game. The other 3 are sorta sidegrades to existing options, but still good ofc.
I was gonna wander here and ask the experienced people here how much potential Harbin might have with Anchorage but it seems that's been answered already 
After the supposed buff, quite a bit. For extra coverage, could run JdA or Belfap.
can cover 20 whole seconds with smoke 
whoa dr aoste where did you get all these ideas 
is there any point in playing the vanguard+warspite comps if I already have NJ? or they only listed as copium options?
Vanguard + Warspite comp is for like an edgy person, like you said, copium
Vanguard/Warspite/NJ let's you alt tab when IJN on screen
Vanguard+Warspite+NJ is pretty good. And it’s fun to kill enemy NJ before she fires every time.
Will you finally top 10 
maybe

6 attacks left
and i already got +4
possible +5/6
You were 2482 right

maybe 2587
i got so many rushers on my list
my pace is 2587 rn
if i get another +1
last 10 mins
be careful not to overcap
yes
i have 3 pvp resets left
just in case i might get -1
i got 2586
final score
did i get top 10

Yes
8th
Top 10 Amagi 
I still somehow hit t10 getting a -1 final set 
yo already top 50 what an ez game
yo wtf should've stacked the exerccises next reset actually new highest I've gotten 
Doesn't carry over

Good job, tho i couldn't do it
I'll have to do a lot better with even better ships


I have no options other than poi
its 5 
How would i be in the top 10? My fleet wasn't even good enough to do so
ah so jinji is in sc 
james
he left his own guild?
Long ago
surely
100% true
yep, we got james
Yes
that's right

congrats to this seasons winners
unsportsmanlike conduct
😭
agree
Why stop there?
Add it to everyone
Only Unultra deserves to not get unsportsmanlike
you guys are so toxic
where's my safe space???
no ill still ban you for that

So what's the strategy for the first day?
does dis drops back to seaman at the start of the season?
yes
Does 2k rank difference means the guy already spent some attempts?
( Early in this season )
Yes
any recommendations? or just doomed to forever be stuck at 1.1k if I dont start lvling pvp specific ships
Hm. Warspite+Shinano+(Hiryuu or Enterprise?) :S
warkai nano hiryuu would be ok except vanguards lacking
and nano hiryuu really needs wyverns
oh wait, you didnt mean the screenshot
but yeah, warspite nano hiryuu is okayish
indep+birmi 
login and open exercise tab as soon as the day resets
@north sentinel Hi, heard you were the best 3BB player in EN - have you considered Nelson Flag on FDG for her to proc barrage early or not? 
i prefer nelson flag on nj cause of her damage reduction plus it makes anchorage (lead vanguard) more tanky using nelson flag on fdg or vanguard is more or less a white shell variant,
as far as an early barrage proc id stick with using fire control table and twin 457
Can you get AoTN through pure rushing?
Nice, never sandbagging ever again. 
sandbagging just makes it easier
roon or sanrui for main tanking ? (not fs5)
im asking for like what thank right now not like for in the future btw
but if you wanna look thorugh my actual entire dock and tell me if I have any very good pvp ships I should level up I could send a vid
from looking over at the ectl pvp tier list I came up with this but I dunno what to put as main tank (ofc im gonna mlb shinano retro war and hiryu lvl them up etc but ill finish theory first)
you can use something like vanguard uni indep for now
what about the theory one? worth investing in it?
the frontline kinda sucks

youre better off using vanguard warspite uni instead of that backline
and start raising anchorag
gonna take like 3 months with my luck to d30 anchorage
just need her at dev10 minimum for her to do her job
huh really shes that OP?
her main selling point is her smoke and she gets torp preload at dev10
but if u want more tank then ofc dev30 is needed
ancho juneau both worth raising asap
with your current dock i'd say investing in helena and birmi
how much better is 457 nj compared to champy gun nj? Cause im debating on whether i can be lazy in gear swapping or not 
much better
if you dont want to use 457 champy gun isnt the best alternative
betetr to use USS BB MK4 gun from Gear Lab
i need 20 sec gun for syncing outside pvp 
oh well guess its easier swapping guns between ship and depot vs ship and other ship
Neither of those are 20s guns
Oh you use NJ
I thought issue was you used 457
Just save your loadouts 
just use gear swap feature doesnt take that long 
the true endgame is raising dupe ships instead of dupe equips
Thank you! Im assuming richy is washington treaty with white shell/beaver tag and FDG is rainbow table with a shell or tank equip?
I tried some 3BB and my backline is very weak to torps, not sure if that’s intended or not
That's just what Shimakaze does, every now and then she'll land some torps on the backline and the ship that gets hit dies. It's the same for every fleet
Vittorio’s torp damage reduction is just too good
True endgame is dupe equips for dupe ships
thats called fp leaderboards
True endgame is quitting the game
here's a few examples of what i run, i have a lot of success with these comps against top meta fleets so hopefully they'll work out for you
Just not sure if Nelson's pennant is effective even if it's not a flagship
Thank you!
that hurt lol, I started the game at the end of Vanguard's event, didn't get her xD
meant frontline in this specific case
Is harbin will be good at pvp like anchorage?
probably
for climbing ranks: is it better to win against a higher rank, a higher fleet power or to stomp the enemy?
higher rank means higher points difference which makes you get bonus points
fleet power doesnt matter
Is Vanguard a good replacement for Richelieu here?
So this may be a dumb question, but what do BBs wait for to fire their main guns? I swear I just watched them wait past 3 of the other teams air strikes before shooting
And is this backline better or worse than a Nagato/Shinano/Hiryuu
If the enemy is a CV most likely you haven't detected them yet and so your bbs couldn't launch a single salvo
Can I improve finding them?
Yes by beating the opposing vanguard so your vanguard could expose them
Well that's a given xD, but if both Vanguard are down there isn't a way?
Yup
Preloaded carriers also help in detecting them earlier
You could do /detection on bot spam so you can see the mechanics of it
Thanks for that, it's been bugging me for a while, I get it now, just because I can see the CV doesn't mean the BBs can, it's just a visual for me to know what's still up
Fuck I'm dumb sometimes
There is this way too, if you somehow tanked all the airstrikes and they all got detected because of it. Though its kinda hard to get it that way anyways
Yeah tell me about it
Also this makes me hate Enterprise even more
But I can see why she's a good defence CV
There's three ways to reveal a carrier:
- Beat the vanguard and have your vanguard get in range of them
- Use a carrier yourself
- Burn them (e.g. Richelieu's barrage)
Oh yeah forgot about burn 
- let them reveal themselves
the quyet strat
who



Any good fleet that doesnt have
in it
no
check pins and try out those fleets
Which CL guns are best for secondary slots on a BB ships in PvP?
I personally use dd guns but I think that's just me
either nepgun or belfastkai gun
Which one is belfast kai?
triple 155 kai
ye
Is that DD gun I have on her the best for PvP?
should be fine if you don't have tashkent gun
good
ye that but gold
russian events
Hmmm. Are the Russians rerunning anytime soon?
the rerun happened before krons event
Fuck
gonna have to wait for its archive
even then idk if the gun will be available since it was a shop exclusive
youll still be fine without it
Nah. I'm planning on swapping out Lutzow's White Shell with the Rainbow Radar Table
But it'll drop Lutzow's base FP below 700 and it bothers me
But if I had tashkent gun
It'll stay above 700
It's just OCD things
Nothing really anything major
its not gonna completely destroy your build if u dont have 700 fp 
you should see fdg luck
ply gun
plymouth gun? Forgot PR5 came out
It's still feels so strange
I'm still working on Pr3 and now Pr5 is out
should i take torp bomber in fighter slot for shinano?
depends but generally yea
For pvp carrier is better two golden catapult or one catapult and one 100/150 aviation gasoline?
use beaver if you dont have the high heels?
im following the tier 0 fleet on the spreadsheet
if i put the beaver on vv
what do i put on duca
instead of the high heels
mafia fleet
Oxytorp
I don't use EVA gear on duca
oh shit
you use sword
not crossbow
on the bb

also why use the magnetic triple torp instead of the non-magnetic triple 550mm
wouldn't you want faster torps on ancho?
you want then to be timed, not to be fastest
ok


go back to is2

Jesus 17k reset him?
? just beat him lol
barely beat just the Juneau 
Wtf is that fleet 
based 
Hey guys what's best meta team of French lolis to beat UR teams
That is new Meta

The "best" would be L'Indomptable / Le Triomphant / Le Malin (μ) or Le Terrible
But for real, that isn't getting past any meta defense fleet
I mean, if u want u can go Ancho/Indom/JdA. As french as it gets while still being viable
What would be the best fleet if you could only use slaimuda "tier n" ships?
Is juneau that good?
I see bunch of random people using Juneau and Cuz of Rare rarity i Underestimate her
she's keeps everybody else alive
Her heal has no equal
have u see perseus tho
Jerbus tho.
Juneau is our saviour
Is this new equipment good for anyone in pvp? I'm wondering if Shima might want it
no
Was it found out if it's based off of base stats or + equip?
nope
As in we still don't know, or no it does not scale off of equips? 
No to that it was found out if it works or not yet, or no that it doesn't. Which is it 
No
no one feels the need to confirm it cus its usually scale for both, if youre not sure you can ask miners urself
Is the second example what you currently have in your defence fleet?
Yup
i hope have luck on low pvp fights
just beat them instead of depending on luck
is elizabeth good in a hms pvp team?
Mine is Queen, Warkai, Vanguard - Neptune, London and Belfast
never break up a fight
shes not good
so you blame lack of luck for your own incompetence, fair
i can this use
has lvl 125 ships
uses lvl 90
never lucky
lv 125 on 380mm ap gun
questionmark
have 0 good gears
and who is to be blamed for that
RNg

drake fate5
I have won against some 17k main fleets with this comp
@floral wave He's not worth it. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink it
Mad
"Some"
Swap that rikka and fix those equips and it'll be alll
18k backline 
That Frontline gets wiped so fast
I'm trying preload team to fight it
rainbow flex squad free win
Just having URs dont make any sense why you want to win

Aurora is better if really wanna take down those 2 DDs, but you can just beat them with your regular stuff 
mafia wins
ah you dont have good gears
you can leave the battle
my NJ is lvl 119 and skill 3 is lvl4
needs work yea












