gameplay-help

[hushed sorrel]

your choice. all the items in the shops are worth it

[undone plover]

I would not really
the blue prints are nice but they are hardly crucial
u will need cog chips and especially arrays more

[boreal temple]

how are the new ships looking? or too soon to ask, back for rawr waifu

[mellow cape]

Lion? Op..

[hushed sorrel]

i put her in the dorm with all other event ships

[zinc flower]

Never really faces any problems with array/chips shortages. I think i have enough to last me a bit

[remote jay]

All my friends were saying azur lane got gift codes is that true?

[hushed sorrel]

atleast lion is good. i dont know about the other

[hushed sorrel]

in blue-rays not for free stuff

[undone plover]

that is usually the case until u start levelling ships for tech
or levelling waifus to level 125
but if u think u need DR prints more then fair enough

[remote jay]

K thanks

[mellow cape]

Prints I find come in abundance when you do weapon research focus and find that mindset that all PR/DR ships come in time lol

[misty leaf]

which AA gun should I put on Trafalgar law?

[zinc flower]

Am i supposed to be lvling ships for tech points for faction lvls? I only farmed tech points when i wanted to research a PR/DR ship

[quasi nymph]

is chesire still good as a tank ?

[hushed sorrel]

you can do the /techpoints in bot spam. you gain it also via gaining the ships (the command could be slightly differently)

[eternal moth]

Man, even after the massive number of cubes we just got I'm still down over 300 due to going to pity and wishing well.

[hushed sorrel]

adding the link to the spam channel made it a forbidden message

[undone plover]

u are not supposed to do anything
play the game how u want
but levelling certain units to level 120 gives perma stats to your other ships
for example +1 fp +1 rld
etc

It is not much but it adds up

[zinc flower]

What's the max lvl for each faction?

[mellow cape]

What even was admiral fire control table from

[eternal moth]

Vanguard event

[mellow cape]

Also, should I use control table on Mrs. Lion over a shell or?

[zinc flower]

Oh shit that looks like it's gonna take years

[eternal moth]

Possibly. Although it's a lot easier to level ships now than it used to be.

[slender linden]

What’s Vanguard’s optimal team?

[sweet delta]

Usually Lion and Biszwei

[eternal moth]

It depends on what you're using her for. If you're timing, and the other ships are using radar, yes.

[slender linden]

Well shit I’m skipping Lion to get her

[sweet delta]

Ok

[eternal moth]

Why?

[slender linden]

Don’t like her

[ebon topaz]

U should pull :)

[hushed sorrel]

this is clearly the wrong chat for showing that

[unique lantern]

since the first ship ive missed when i just started (kronshtadt) is available again i was wondering if you knew roughly when the last 4 URs im missing are going to be available again
guam
bismarck zwei
laffey II
sovetsky soyuz

shouldnt be too far off considering the first one i missed already circled around

[eternal moth]

I think bisco is the next UR event to rerun, Guam and Laffii are... right after her?

[hollow gust]

#trophy-room

[tender girder]

which one should i MLB first between Lion or Traf?

[hushed sorrel]

rerun is always 2 years after the event lunch. everything else is unknown

[eternal moth]

Lion

[sweet delta]

Bisz Unzen Guam soyuz

[unique lantern]

got kronshtadt around a year after i missed her (tho through UR guarantee)

[eternal moth]

You almost always want to prioritize main fleet ships

[unique lantern]

so ill have a ur full collection soon

[hushed sorrel]

[unique lantern]

speaking of urs... lemme get a ss real quick
can you tell me which to mlb next? got 8 bullins ready and a 9th after event

guessing implac first

[hollow gust]

That's all your URs?

[unique lantern]

thats all the urs i havent maxed

[hollow gust]

Well we also need to know what URs you maxed already

[boreal temple]

they need to know for complementary fleetbuilding

[ebon topaz]

😭 i feel broke

[hushed sorrel]

"they" i hope they help :D

[fast frigate]

whats this suppose to mean

[sweet delta]

Not enough dock slots

[unique lantern]

-# im f2p

[cobalt rapids]

dockspace but idk why it doesnt ask you to sort/expand/enhance

[unique lantern]

i know the feeling

[boreal temple]

is there a way to get the old ui that appears when we dismantle after retiring

my muscle memory is clicking the wrong place

[hushed sorrel]

if thats the case than in the options. i dont know

[unique lantern]

no one? then i guess ill just yolo the 2 new ones, i like their style 😂

[hushed sorrel]

no one with enough knowlegde online

isnt it better than worse tips?

[boreal temple]

the ones who replied earlier def have enough knowledge

[eternal moth]

Personally I'd go Implac and Lion

[boreal temple]

anyway implac for sure has prio then maybe fritz misinfo for sure

[hushed sorrel]

i am only sure that i am not good in team building and that just means i cannot help other with their ships.

[boreal temple]

is lion looking that good?

[hollow gust]

Lion is the strongest dps bb ingame

[hushed sorrel]

not as good as your profil pic

[boreal temple]

damn great time to come back it seems

[eternal moth]

She may be replacing Alsace in BB fleets.

[cobalt rapids]

campaign focus -> fritz>implac>lion
showdown focus -> lion>implac>fritz

[hollow gust]

[turbid marsh]

more like replacing vanguard

[forest palm]

BB fleets are going to be Alsace + Lion + BZ

[sweet delta]

more like there's no hard enough content to use it on

[eternal moth]

That's what Sushi was saying earlier anyway. Unless I misunderstood the context.

[boreal temple]

gph never changes it seems

[sweet delta]

Idk when I ever said lion for Alsace

[ebon topaz]

Is my second lion just pure limit break material

[sweet delta]

For most players that is the case

[ebon topaz]

D:

[eternal moth]

ok, so Vanguard won't be used, and gets replaced by Lion?

[boreal temple]

no reason to keep dupes in here

[turbid marsh]

yeah, probably replaces vanguard in anti light/med fights

cause aint using vanguard for heavy anyways

[unique lantern]

theres that one person who has like 20 mlb NJs

[next raft]

Hey, does anyone know why I can't use the lvl 9 bulin to upgrade lion?

[boreal wagon]

https://cdn.mrlar.dev/i/1mCEjhL2ZOQcMXYSGWagB.png

[boreal temple]

it's in commission too

[next raft]

Oh my bad alright thank you 🙏

[pseudo hearth]

I haven’t heard much talk of her since release, so I figured I’d ask since she’s one of the more unique research ships from the recent batch; how is Halford?

[undone plover]

She was average before
But then she got a bug and now she is very bad
Idk if the bug was fixed

[boreal temple]

free tech

[unique lantern]

lion and implac it is then, i swer one day ill catch up with my ur bullins

[pseudo hearth]

What’s the bug if I may ask?

[sweet delta]

Her planes almost never do damage

[paper walrus]

is pulling on the event banner till i get lion and then doing the 3 daily pulls in the light banner a bad idea?

[boreal wagon]

she spawns planes from her own position which often doesnt leave enough time for her planes to drop their cargo

[undone plover]

Her seaplanes spawn from her location so they dont have a chance to hit enemy before they are off screen

[sweet delta]

Don't pull light, at least pick light in wishing well

[cobalt rapids]

chikuma also spawns from her position right ? did her plane work properly ?

[boreal temple]

usually its 3 pulls daily till last day for best ways to do daily and pull for new ship, unless you have a ton of cubes to spend day 1

[undone plover]

I guess current meta is to use halford without planes?
But she becomes very average that way I believe

[eternal moth]

If you have all of the ships on the banner already, I'd just drop to 1 pull per day on the light banner. It's not worth the extra 2 cubes just for a few hundred points

[undone plover]

Light wishing well banner with aurora on rateup to be more specific
Or if u have the coobs check the pin for wishing well details

[soft raft]

max storage capacity of XP books is 3k for the T1 ones right
Also how many bullins do yall bother keeping around at any given moment?

[paper walrus]

i already have her whats so special about her

[cobalt rapids]

her debuff

[paper walrus]

thats still used in 2025?

[undone plover]

Her eva rate debuff is one of the best skills in game
Only when fighting DD and CL bosses
Otherwise doesnt work

[cobalt rapids]

ofc it is

helena is also used in 2025

[paper walrus]

i dont remember it being used a lot even back in 2020

[sweet delta]

Back in 2020 there was no difficult boss

[cobalt rapids]

[undone plover]

She is very niche
She is not universally amazing
But perma banner doesnt have many good ships anyway

[boreal temple]

probably not in a position to say anything but 8-12 elites since I have most of mine mlb already

still have a backlog of SRs to lb so brokie

[cerulean field]

Whats a rookie mission?

[cobalt rapids]

handbook

[soft raft]

Think I'll keep 3 rows of each then

[undone plover]

What was average helena vs average aurora dmg %?

Aurora is sth like 25% right?

[cobalt rapids]

1 + 0.6 * 0.4 vs 25% for bacline

[ebon topaz]

How do i get dorm coins

[soft raft]

comissions

[sweet delta]

If your BB with AFCT and 80% hit rate goes to 100% then that is 25% increase

[ebon topaz]

Other then that D:

[soft raft]

that's really it

[ebon topaz]

😭

[sweet delta]

If your CV with 0 luck like nakhimov has 70% hit rate then it's 28.5%

[hushed sorrel]

the season pass has some at the end

[cobalt rapids]

sometimes u can tap ur ships in dorm for a minicule dorm income

[paper walrus]

ok thanks 🙏

[ebon topaz]

Aight thx :D

[small violet]

So... Yorktown II, Vanguard, Fritz, Ulrich or Raffaelo

Which of them should i max lb first?

Or do i go straight for Lion when i get her???

[undone plover]

Show all your URs
Even the mlb ones

[soft raft]

^

[undone plover]

Also how many bulins do you have or can get this month?

[small violet]

Aight aight. Gimme a bit

[shell willow]

how does the new BB gun compare to NJ gun?

[cobalt rapids]

better

[small violet]

6 UR BULLINS

[unique lantern]

what do i do with the 10k leftover coins in the holiday event thing, thats gotta be a mistake, making an event which lasts for a month be completable on day 1, right?

[hollow gust]

It's to give casual players enough leeway , vets don't give a f

[stark quiver]

You do nothing
I cleared out shop in like first few hours of event

[static dome]

Does Lion S2 (+10% dmg dealt to ememy w/ Lion's Inferno effect) affect only self dmg or all allies dmg?

Since the datamine doc said allied, but event-faq said self — I'm confused now

[low condor]

Is there's a list of stuff i should buy first with gems?

[unique lantern]

second floor of dorm and then dock space

i dont remember if you start with 2 or 3 slots in dorm, if its 2 then one of those too

[undone plover]

save for lion
then Fritz/trafalger when u have another 4 (3 if u get trafalger dupe) imo

[unique lantern]

the wording makes me think its meant like a debuff, tho translation and i cant read the original

[cobalt rapids]

its pretty clear on aldb or on wiki

[static dome]

[unique lantern]

ah ingame it definitely sounds like its a local thing only, ill just believe that

[eternal moth]

There's nothing in the wording that implies it's Lion only that gets the damage increase.

[cobalt rapids]

ingame descriptions have many times been inaccurate

[eternal moth]

I know, which is why I'd need to know what the code says instead of the description.

[static dome]

Did we have that

[cobalt rapids]

this implies that tho ?

[eternal moth]

No, it just says enemies affected by Lionflame take 10% more damage

[cobalt rapids]

idk what to tell u
many ppl were confused by this wording

[unique lantern]

ye ingame its worded like a thing for lion only "and increases the dmg dealt to enemies affected by lionflame" instead

[boreal wagon]

the way english is supposed to work very much does imply only she gets it

[undone plover]

it is open to interpretation especially with historical context

[unique lantern]

the skill text windows are so god damn hard on the eyes, you got the whole width of the screen and they press it into that tiny thing and sometimes its an entire damn essay

[eternal moth]

It's identical to the wording on Helena's buff: increasing the DMG they take by 20%

[boreal wagon]

the difference is whats before that

[unique lantern]

dealt implies for lion only, taken would imply a debuff, ye, the question is where did the mistranslation or mistake happen and can someone who can read chinese look at the original 😂

[eternal moth]

Screw the description, we need to know what the code actually says.

[boreal wagon]

the code says what i put on aldb

[eternal moth]

That's literally the only way to know how it works. \

[cobalt rapids]

both wiki and aldb are saying what the code does

[unique lantern]

this? if so its definitely a debuff, thats pog

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[eternal moth]

The 2 parts before it affect Lion only, yes, but the third clause in the sentence pretty clearly means it affects all ships.

[unique lantern]

so who is getting the boot now to put lion in? i dont think i would replace ply in a bb comp (if lion even goes into a bb comp)

[cobalt rapids]

this doesnt need to be a discussion here imo
if some1 was confused the confusion is now clear

[eternal moth]

Lion's a main fleet, not vanguard. She'd replace Vanguard

[sweet delta]

Many native English speakers were confused. End of discussion.

[unique lantern]

oh wait was trafalgar a vanguard

[eternal moth]

Bisco/Alsace/Lion is likely top comp

[unique lantern]

i dont have zwei yet

wait so lion replaces vanny? she that good :oo

[static dome]

Her FP stat kinda good, compared to VG

[sweet delta]

Vanguard was already sometimes/often replaced before Lion too

[soft raft]

Luckily for you, BZ is the next rerun in line

[sweet delta]

But I wonder if Lion's insane damage brings Vanguard back

[unique lantern]

can't wait, im working on dr7s rn and once the next few reruns happen ill have all URs (except drake, who needs her anyways) and i can finally build all the cool comps

[undone plover]

trafalgers specific synergy with lion was the 10% FP buff right?

[forest palm]

I question if that's even worth it over say 52's buff which is fleet wide and should be more rDPS overall

[quasi nymph]

give me some of your luck

how mnay pulls did it took ?

[forest palm]

#al-general

[undone plover]

probably relevant when both compete for the same spot
which is probably not all the time
since if vanguard pressure is low and helena is not preferred u would run z52 plymouth and trafalger right?

[worldly pewter]

ply and even cv can benefit too i think

[forest palm]

maybe

[undone plover]

yeah I know I was just asking cuz I heard some ppl shill lion and trafalger together and was wondering if I missed anything else

[static dome]

Oh, forget to ask abt Trafalgar gun choice

Which gun is the most suitable for her, 100mm Kai?

[worldly pewter]

mogador should be the best imo

[sweet delta]

Same as z52, single

[static dome]

[sweet delta]

Here

[worldly pewter]

why a fast gun instead of a damaging gun ?

[sweet delta]

Because her barrage says so

[worldly pewter]

are these the barrages ?

[undone plover]

her S1 doesnt do dmg right?
the shockwaves only apply the effects?

[worldly pewter]

[undone plover]

and is her AoA aimed?

[sweet delta]

Here

AoA is 40% of her damage if single 113

[silk helm]

Who do I mlb, can buy 6 in store

[slow fox]

suchirealinformation

[silk helm]

Me?

[soft raft]

he wasnt talking to you

[silk helm]

O okay

[cobalt rapids]

lion and traff(use her dupe for lb )

[undone plover]

only 2 bulins or do u have spec core and can get more?

[silk helm]

No love for moga?

I have25k spec core

[tame jungle]

no love for mog no

[cobalt rapids]

moggy will be a benchwarmer for awhile more because after u should save for bisko rerun

unless u rly like her then u do what u gotta do

[undone plover]

mogador's best usage these days is unzen aimer right?

[cobalt rapids]

[silk helm]

I rly like farming c1 that's basically all I do

[undone plover]

someone show him the fast c1 CN start (assuming u mean c1 opsi)

[silk helm]

Ya c1 opsi. What Chinese strat!?!

[worldly pewter]

i hate to deliver this to u but c1 is a waste of time

[cobalt rapids]

algm + barrages that proc on health dmg

[undone plover]

#gameplay-help message

[silk helm]

Thank u so much

[undone plover]

godspeed

[crisp geode]

Is it worth doing A3-B3 x3 medals daily? (with a 1:1 fleet ofc)

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[crisp geode]

Good, at least i know im not wasting oil

[cobalt rapids]

protocore/gearlab

[worldly pewter]

protocore is the most reasonable choice

[cobalt rapids]

gearlab then

[undone plover]

yes because u shouldnt focus pr2

[cobalt rapids]

shouldnt ever focus s1-3

[undone plover]

add 4

[cobalt rapids]

me too

[undone plover]

farm La9 in research
farm georgie gun in gearlab (if u really want it)

[worldly pewter]

convert the yellow ordnances

[cobalt rapids]

4 is fine for like 1 month of gear focus when ure a newbie

[undone plover]

I would keep ~9 T3 ordnance in case of future gear lab updates

the same way u were trying to farm georgia in pr2 research
it is better to go focus pr7 and the rainbow plane in that season

[worldly pewter]

it is almost impossible to convince faer about pr4 focus in this current stage of the game

[undone plover]

with protocore spending + catchup and coining pr4 is really almost never worth

but lets not open up this discussion again

[worldly pewter]

the chat is dead i want more discussions

[undone plover]

u want 2 (or maybe even 4)

[worldly pewter]

2 is the bare minimum

poverty level

u only need 2 of hindy gun for hindy
3 tenrai that is in the gear lab now
1 georgia gun
and ply gun will be in the gear lab next year in jan

[crisp geode]

Damn, i got only one UR gear (from this event)

[undone plover]

u have a decent amount from the other seasons
just get 1 more La9

[worldly pewter]

yeah just get more la9s

now that i have noticed no wyverns

[undone plover]

your +11 enhances are a bit questionable tho
better consult a list or ask here in the future for upgrading stuff beyond +13

[worldly pewter]

wyvern is a gear lab piece

[stone sluice]

+11 +12

[worldly pewter]

not a single +13 too

gear lab royal navy

[undone plover]

anyway yeah
wyvern does not compete for research so just get it when u can (keep it at +10) get 2
and for reasearch stay on pr7 and hope u get 1 more La9 before pr8 release (prioritize Q and G research)

[pseudo hearth]

Sorry for the late reply to this, but I guess I can ask, how will she do if she gets her planes fixed?

[undone plover]

like I said she was pretty average
she has survivability issues and her buff has an awkward timing
maybe there are ppl that can make her work (pre-bug) but she wasnt really used in any hard content afaik

[worldly pewter]

the halford tragedy

[pseudo hearth]

I guess I could also ask then, what do you think she would get in her fate sim so she’s not as lacking as the other PR ships?

[undone plover]

that is really not sth we discuss in this channel
but aside from fixing her bug maybe extending her de-buff duration
anyway lets not get bonked by a mod

[pseudo hearth]

Alright, alright. It’s just sort of unfortunate a lot of these unique ships end up not being good.

[undone plover]

we have had ships that had glowups in the past with fate simulation
it should be in 2-3 months anyway so we will see

[pseudo hearth]

I think the only BBVs that are fairly good are what, Kearsarge and The 2nd?

Kearsarge obviously being a bit more of the standout for being a UR

[tame jungle]

well, do keep in mind that the BBVs before them predate them by quite a significant amount of time

[soft raft]

Between Janus, Hardy, and Manchester, who would be the most worthwhile overall to select for WW

[cobalt rapids]

i would pick hardy for +1trp

[slow fox]

FS5 guarantees somewhere like 3-5% eHP improvement just from luck

[pseudo hearth]

True

[teal cedar]

Yo question I just got Lion, should I use my UR bulins on her or finish off limit breaking kronstadt who's one limit break away from being fully limit broken

[foggy minnow]

is this ok atm ? dont have much gear yet and which augment should i give her Crossbow or Officer Sword?

[undone plover]

change one of the white shells for this

or better yet if u have core data grab a black shell from the shop then a white shell after that

[undone plover]

I would use bulins on lion and leave kron for perma pity or just leave her with partial LB for now

[foggy minnow]

this one?

and as augment ?

[undone plover]

what do u have show me

[foggy minnow]

have just this dk how to get more/other

[undone plover]

avoid it for now then

[foggy minnow]

ok.

[undone plover]

if u get the sword by chance (u usually get augments from the daily raid) then use it
either blue sword > uncap it to purple
or if u get purple then enhance it to +10

dont craft purple from scratch not worth

also if u have any other ship that should get their unique augments like then prioritize them first

[foggy minnow]

and should i use lion with some specific ships ?

[humble solar]

We can farm Glorious Meta on D3

[undone plover]

not really
she has no specific restrictions
just build fleets like usual

[foggy minnow]

yea to that i need really learn how to build proper fleets

[hollow gust]

She's anti everything

Although that rossiya and Eugen is useless as fuck

[undone plover]

show your dock maybe u have better options

in campaign we generally use only 1 BB in flag and use 2 CV on the sides

[foggy minnow]

have to do it with 2 post i guess discord said no

[undone plover]

saratoga replaces rossiya and replace kursk with helena imo

[humble solar]

I need more coobs...

[foggy minnow]

some are doubled because of the builds

[humble solar]

Coobs ain't appearing in comissions...

[undone plover]

actually maybe time for you to start working on 2 fleets
are u clearing D3 fine?

[foggy minnow]

yes tried todo SP but i fail on boss with x20 or somth

[wheat ore]

which ones do i use? I have no idea how these work

[ivory pawn]

Type /cats into #bot-spam.

[wheat ore]

ah okay

[undone plover]

lion might help with that when she is MLB and high enough level and after u level her skills

anyway eventually your 2 fleets should probably be
lion unicorn saratoga portland laffey kursk
nelson lexington illustrious eugen helena voroshilov
replace eugen with da seven provincien when u have enough gold bulins

raise these ships in d3 when d3 is on safe level (green threat)
1 fleet should clear it fine
dont raise the low level ships all togher
use unicorn and some high level ships to carry them

[foggy minnow]

bulins i have enough but no gold atm spamming D3 for it ^^

[undone plover]

all good like I said eventually your fleets should look like this so just slowly work towards it
like your current fleet is all level 110
u probably dont want to level them higher than that for now
so keep 2-3 (keep unicorn and lion) and rotate some lower level ships
and overnight put them in dorm first floor so they get xp

[foggy minnow]

if i can buy trafalgar should i put then her into the fleet too ? got 150 tokens already

[undone plover]

u wont have enough bulins for her

maybe next month

[foggy minnow]

ah ok

[undone plover]

for retrofit priority work on nelson then saratoga

[foggy minnow]

thank you very much for your help

[fallen plume]

is there a way to make auto-search defeat all enemies before the boss

[atomic abyss]

no, just manually

[lime thicket]

is glorious meta good? also wat armor type is d3 boss?

[glass quest]

Where is the miniplay for the ultra rare exchange? It always says it's locked for me.

[soft raft]

It's the topmost mini game in the resort thingy

[sweet delta]

Probably among the top gold carriers .
This has a search by event name it says heavy for D3 https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/bosses

[glass quest]

Which one? I've got "Shipgirl Game", "Manjuu Salvaging Crew", and "Vacay Thermae" on the bottom left of this resort thingy.

[dawn hamlet]

I forgot everything about research project, I remember there was an image/excel to sum up the most interesting one, does anyone got the link?

[soft raft]

The one at the top of that list

[soft raft]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[dawn hamlet]

thank you a lot

[boreal lynx]

Help for my Fleets

[terse roost]

Is eva calculated for the whole team or individual ships

[undone plover]

individually

[tender girder]

is this an okay wolf SS team or should i replace anyone?
if yes, they are worth starring up to max?

[atomic abyss]

it's about as good as it gets
just rmb u-101 needs her unique augment

[terse roost]

What does the hit stat do

[crimson glacier]

counters evasion stat

[terse roost]

Oh then how do you make the aoe bigger for shells

[crimson glacier]

cant

[terse roost]

Ah alr

[dawn hamlet]

where is the shop for this currency?

[sterile grove]

you get an avatar frame after 2800

[dawn hamlet]

oh, it's auto then? thank you

[crimson glacier]

yeah its just this no shop

[hollow gust]

well you gotta claim it eventually

[ivory pawn]

It's not, you need to claim it from the event menu.

[dawn hamlet]

oh alright I see now, thank you a bunch guys

[limpid dock]

how good is the new UR gun ?

[atomic abyss]

slightly better than the NJ gun/mk7

[limpid dock]

oh thats nice

[atomic abyss]

so current best for light armour

[fiery swan]

Z52 can tank, right?

[hollow gust]

For most content yes

[atomic abyss]

She tankier than Eugen and Azuma

So yeah, pretty much
Outside of hard hitting bosses she will tank

[crimson marsh]

why is the monarch skin not in the store? is it going to be avalible later or?

[dusty terrace]

should be next week

[crimson marsh]

oke thank you

[wind spindle]

Do we know if the B stage or D stage is better for farming the ship drop?

[stark quiver]

d3

unless you can low cost b3
with like lvl70 , 0lb ranger + cassin/downes also at l70 and 0lb

[atomic abyss]

D3 unless you're a sweaty min maxer trying to save every lick of oil

[tame jungle]

#tech-support message

give this a read, it might be able to help you fix this

unlikely

[atomic abyss]

The skins don't show at all and causes the game to freeze for some people

It's the same problem

So the same solution works

[crisp geode]

Uncap Lion or Trafalgar first? Only have 5 UR Bulins atm

[atomic abyss]

Probably lion, but we'd need to see all your other URs to be sure

[crisp geode]

Only Lion and soon Trafalgar

The only other UR i have is Implacable but she's already 6*

I started during Rafaellos event

[brisk dragon]

based on how previous years went. how much time is between CN anniv and next brand new event?

[river junco]

im pretty sure AL usually doesn't have new events back to back, usually separated by at least a 1 week rerun

or just a week of no event

[undone plover]

I would say probably atelier ryze collab rerun after CN anni then new event for end of june (unless the collab counts as both new event and rerun since it is not just a rerun)
but this isnt confirmed
black rock shooter should be during last week of CN anni if I am not wrong

[brisk dragon]

ryze collab reruning? with new characters ?
and what's black rock shooter

[undone plover]

yes it was announced during CN anni stream but no dates were given
black rock shooter is an older IP (i think it is a game) and there should be a mini collab in the next few weeks
2 free units

[brisk dragon]

i see
so i have 2 remaining weeks from cn anniv

• at least 1 week rerun ?

[undone plover]

CN anni ends 11 june
I think black rock collab will be during that last week
and then ryza rerun after that (but maybe not directly after it)
but like I said none of this is confirmed

[brisk dragon]

i see. and about how many cubes i can collect in this time?

ik it depends on comms. just taking the average. with tiny bit of extra effort

[forest palm]

23 days could easily get over 100 cubes

probably could reach 200 even

[undone plover]

there is like another 150 in the new rookie missions if u havent claimed those yet

[brisk dragon]

nah i'm really old player. but i'm like super chill in the game i don't keep track of anything. it been so long since i actually hit 0 cubes and actually need to "farm" and "try"

"aka i have all these 1 time collect cubes. so i just meant the cubes everyone could get"

[brisk dragon]

200 in 3 weeks? 👀
need prolly a lot of cube comms

[forest palm]

end of the month, new handbook missions, new cruise, dailies, weeklies...wtf else free source of cubes

[brisk dragon]

yeh actually it sounds correct

[sly solar]

Weird questions but is there any updated fleet building guide? I pretty much just "unga bunga rainbow units stronk" my way through content but I've got a ton of resources and want to make a proper fleet.

[forest palm]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding

[sly solar]

you're a gem, ty!

[wicked obsidian]

Are any of the ships in Medal shop Good ?? San Diego,Belfast,Sirius,Dido,Dido u

[soft raft]

Out of those that you listed, San Diego and Sirius
the rest are mainly tech fodder and Dido u is purely collection since Muse ships provide no tech

[meager tiger]

any benefit to keeping 2nd or 3rd copies of UR ships for gameplay? or is it just free medal selector every 400 pulls

[soft raft]

There is no pratical justification for raising dupes of any kind, especially URs

[wicked obsidian]

I am using only my Beginner team (U know the Unicorn team)right now..got no SSR ..Shouldnt i try to get them then ??

[fair lance]

No you can't really use more than 1 copy.

[meager tiger]

sacrificing them rn

[fair lance]

mlb first if you haven't

[soft raft]

you can get Sandy and Sirius right now if you want, but prob wait until later to properly raise them

[meager tiger]

i have all of them mlb except lion and trafalgar but ill just buy bulins for that

[wicked obsidian]

So i should stick with my biginer unicorn team ??

[worldly pewter]

if u have enough dock space there is no need to retire them imo it is whatever in the end
people who have mutiple skins for the same ship can use more than 1 copy

[hollow gust]

you csn but they are usually not the best option

[soft raft]

for now yeah
It's good enough until W9 which would be the point where you start working on a 2nd fleet

[meager tiger]

i have 800 dock space but i try to keep things optimized, id rather have the medals since i spent like 5k medals in the last month

[worldly pewter]

what

[wicked obsidian]

hmmm..but i am stuck on event maps part 2 B1 ...cant progress with my team..everyone lvl 60 now

i thought i would be able to get the Trafalgar...

but cant reach the SP Maps

[worldly pewter]

sp map needs a lot of optimizations and game knowledge

it will be an achievement if u can do d1

[tawdry halo]

so, uhm, is port defending just about using your boss fleet to block the port entrance and use the mob fleet to sweep everything

and only when the boss is there you bonk bonk it

[wicked obsidian]

so, impossible with biginar team ??

[meager tiger]

just stay within a couple tiles of the port tile and prioritize the closest fleets

[worldly pewter]

u need 2 full teams at 111 avg level

[wicked obsidian]

Yesterday i heard someone said i can tho...with the Biginar Team (well they need to be lvlrd properly for that tho)

[tawdry halo]

I mean that's what I've been doing, I use my boss fleet to block the port entrance off and then utilize the mob fleet to sweep things around

kinda surprised to see the Sirens supporting though

[meager tiger]

ig its part of the story but im a chronic skip button presser so idk

[tawdry halo]

no, they are in battle too

[meager tiger]

yeah thats what i meant, part of them being in battle is in the story canon or sm but idk since i skip all the cutscenes and dialogue

[worldly pewter]

trust me for now if u can do D1 it will be an achievement
u need 2 full teams for sp

rumey

[wicked obsidian]

Damm... looks like I won't be getting Trafalgar

[hollow gust]

Eh

Is that all you have?

[worldly pewter]

u can get the ur shop ship just from doing B stages

[hollow gust]

Well what you have maxed is just as important

[viscid swift]

you get 105 vouchers from the mini game and 5 daily from daily missions
you'll get her easily if you just play the game

[hollow gust]

Finish kearsarge , then max your Yorktown , Rumey is lower prio

[viscid swift]

Kearsarge is a DR not a UR

[hollow gust]

Well obviously

[wicked obsidian]

Oww...I hope I make it then..

[fiery swan]

What does Lion do because it looks like I won't be getting her, am I missing out on a lot if I already have literally every other UR BB

[viscid swift]

you'd have to be actively trying not to get her

[worldly pewter]

come back when u really didn't get her after the event
there is a lot more time than u think

[viscid swift]

pretty much the the single strongest BB for damage with good support

[hollow gust]

Extremely powerful high damage UR BB, should beat every other BB we have

[viscid swift]

missing her would be uhh, not advisable

[hollow gust]

Especially since we have 3 weeks still

[dim summit]

is the ASW Fairey Gannet worth crafting?

[hollow gust]

The what

[viscid swift]

eventually

[worldly pewter]

it doesn't look necessary for anything yet i think

[dim summit]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fairey_Gannet#tabber-tabpanel-Type_0-0

[bright tusk]

what CVs that has skill "reduce first airstrike CD by X%"?

[viscid swift]

a number, why?

[wicked obsidian]

Who should I get from here??

[worldly pewter]

the independence skill

[tame jungle]

check the pinned messages

[viscid swift]

check the pins

[wicked obsidian]

I did but can't tell who's good who's bad...new

[worldly pewter]

the only relevant ship with the reduced launch timer is independence afaik but there is at least one more

[worldly pewter]

when in doubt u can wait

[viscid swift]

none of them are really besieds U-81 for a wolfpack
they're all mainly tech but you can also just wait to make your decision

personally I like to hold onto them until I'm only missing one from that invitation and then choose

[wicked obsidian]

I wanna see if I can reach SP map or not...

[worldly pewter]

yeah u might not get a certain ship for years

[worldly pewter]

i will say this for the 3rd time
it will be an achievement if u can do d1

[wicked obsidian]

Owww...so, they won't really help me power up ha....

[viscid swift]

I mean they might

[worldly pewter]

my first event was also a double UR event
i remember that i reached the D1 stage in the last hour and failed to do and still got the ur shop ship easily

[wicked obsidian]

Let's say I will.... before the event ends

[wicked obsidian]

Ok...I will just keep it then... and
get the "San Diego" from 🏅 medal shop
Abdou said she was useful...

[fiery pelican]

Should I open purple boxes for steam catapult? or its impossible?

[hollow gust]

i mean it only gives you purple catapults

[wicked obsidian]

Hay, is there no website about who's good or bad or tier list ....??
Where do you guys get the infos

[tame jungle]

knowledge

[worldly pewter]

game knowledge yep

[fiery pelican]

Oh thanks

[wicked obsidian]

You mean EXP

[tight drift]

u-81 is the best choice due to in-game strength

[tame jungle]

no

[worldly pewter]

u can have the knowledge without the exp

[hollow gust]

thats just parotting

[worldly pewter]

yeah from trustworthy sources

[wicked obsidian]

Is she a Tank or what ?

[tame jungle]

u-81 is good but honestly i'd hold off from redeeming her from a selector until she's the last piece you're missing for a sub fleet
ESPECIALLY for a new player, u-81 is going to be fucking useless

[fiery pelican]

Is this okay or there is room for imporevement?

[weary gust]

CV gear is very situational. What are you trying to do? For campaign W13 and below that would be okay.

[tight drift]

Just one of the top tier submarines. You need 3 U's to make a fleet though. You can just get her now if you don't have any submarines.

[fiery pelican]

What about w14 above because im at 14-1 right now

[sharp socket]

replace db for tb for fritz

[weary gust]

Also should note, Rumey is not ready to be used. Don't use non mlb ships.

[wicked obsidian]

Ow.. come on...I wanna start working on my 2nd fleaf... just leveling them through commission... but no one says any ship is good

[tame jungle]

you should not spend your resources now if you're missing the rest

[still thorn]

The Bismarck Zwei rerun is next month right?

[tame jungle]

u-81 is a submarine, she does not go in your 2nd fleet

[sharp socket]

oh i didn't realise shes 0lb yeah dont use her yet

[worldly pewter]

rumey's usual loadout is 2 fighters or fighter tb
fighter db is almost not used i think
for implacable u want to use 2 fighters or 2 tb
having a db will increase her speed that is already higher than the average cvs

[tame jungle]

don't even think about a 2nd fleet regardless until you're at like ch9 or 10 anyway

[wicked obsidian]

Why... something new will unlock?

[sharp socket]

not needed

[weary gust]

Oil cap worlds.

[tight drift]

There's a problem that none of the characters in here is gonna last long until your later gameplay, none of them are popular nor OP despite U81 who still can fight in current meta

[tame jungle]

it's just not needed until then
after ch9 you're going to be fighting stuff while out of ammo, so it gets a lot harder

[fiery pelican]

Like any fighters or any tb?

[sharp socket]

one good fleet is better than 2 mediocre fleets for w1-9

[wicked obsidian]

Narohodo

[sharp socket]

and you won't have particularly much in decent ships during that stage anyway

[wicked obsidian]

Okk...

[sharp socket]

when you get to w10 you probably have better stuff so a 2nd fleet is doable

[worldly pewter]

it depends on the content
for example in this meta showdown u want to use bf or la9
for w15 u want to use pancakes
for w14 pancake and wyvern

[meager tiger]

dd guns > cl guns for bb secondaries right?

[tame jungle]

nope

[wicked obsidian]

Only consern is...I am maxing my Biginer fleat just to throw them away later ... ...
Waste

[fiery pelican]

Vought XF5U Flying Flapjack (Prototype) this one is pancake?

[worldly pewter]

its jp ingame nickname is pancake

[tame jungle]

it's not a waste if their purpose is to carry you through early game and they do that fine
plus it's MUCH more cost efficient

[worldly pewter]

flying pancake

[tame jungle]

you lose a lot less resources from following the newbie fleet as opposed to just MLBing and using some random mediocre gold ships or using half limit-broken URs

[rapid grail]

alternatives for golden hind? wanna keep up that +1 ammo during farming

[atomic abyss]

The thing iw, you kinda don't

[tame jungle]

AL is a game where you're very much always out of everything until you're just not so relieving some of that resource pressure helps a lot early on

[atomic abyss]

...that's why Cheeky uses Akashi for w12/13 farming

[undone plover]

when we recommend beginner "bad" ships we do that for a reason
we are not trying to sabotage your progression
the reason we dont recommend 6 UR ships for you as beginner fleet is because they will be useless since u dont have the resources for them

[rapid grail]

then again he has all backline tech done iirc. still catching up

[worldly pewter]

imagine being patient

[atomic abyss]

You'll run out of backline tech very quickly

Just swap one

[meager tiger]

mediocre gold ship slander smh

blucher was halfway decent when she released in 2022, surely she continues to remain relevant 3 years later

[sweet delta]

She's got some relevant skins

[tame jungle]

S tier for secretary duty

[meager tiger]

skins meta

skins in AL > skins in cs2

[rapid grail]

Unplayable

[meager tiger]

lechon why does half your phone have no screen

[rapid grail]

that's al en client, currently goes dark once i use splitscreen

[worldly pewter]

poor beth

[sweet delta]

And this is gameplay what?

[weary gust]

Gamplay whining

[rapid grail]

how many names do i have

anyways, i was looking at dock for the aux that gave +1 ammo on tempesta botes, gave that bug I believ

Favorite way to enjoy game and its borked for now

[weary gust]

#tech-support

[wicked obsidian]

Yeah...I get it .. I was just upset cause this exact thing kept happening to me in Event map...🤣

[tame jungle]

no offtopic pics pls

[meager tiger]

[worldly pewter]

all these poor phone users

[tame jungle]

don't come crying to me when you get bonked for it

[meager tiger]

3000 dollar pc to emulate AL on bluestacks

i can finally turn up settings in the weird 3d interactive mode

[solid maple]

@vale spindle as you are one of wiki contributer, do you know any user with content of all buff id in game?

[meager tiger]

cl guns > dd guns for bb secondaries right? if you have the option

[worldly pewter]

depends

[meager tiger]

perfect, time to use my plymouth gun

[worldly pewter]

there are times where u don't need cl guns and just want some more fp so u can use ur dd guns

if u don't have enoug ply guns

[rapid grail]

don't know a dd gun with +45 fp, champ

[sweet delta]

I know one with +55 fp champ

[strong tartan]

that isnt the reason as to why you use cl guns over dd guns either

[vale spindle]

every single one? probably @patent pivot

[noble fjord]

i’m new

[undone plover]

sushi rated 137 dd gun over any non plymouth CL gun in ch15 I think
not sure it extends to other chapters
14 is 155kai territory tho

[vale spindle]

but you can just datamine files yourself

https://github.com/AzurLaneTools/AzurLaneData have fun

[undone plover]

did u have a question?
welcome

[noble fjord]

yes lol, a few actually

[meager tiger]

hurry and uninstall before you sign away your firstborn child on l2d skins

[strong tartan]

ask away

[undone plover]

shoot

[sweet delta]

Shoot the duck too

[meager tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-minions-popcorn-day-laugh-gif-5026739

[noble fjord]

• may i send images of my current ships to get feedback
• how does the gacha system work?
• is ||being 18 an okay age to play?||
• what are beginner priorities?

[solid maple]

[worldly pewter]

mogador is 138 is there a reason to why it was rated highter ?

[viscid swift]

yes but in a thread
uhh, not sure what you don't know
who cares
Read that which is a bit dated but....https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[vale spindle]

Thats for bb aux gun

you cant use 137 on vanguard fleet ships xd

[viscid swift]

we might need a new guide for the handbook at this rate
or at least a note of which missions not to get baited by

[undone plover]

yes u can send images but if it is a lot of screenshots better make a thread
gacha uses cubes and coin
coin not a big issue but cubes are limited (but with decent income)
there is perma banner and limited banner
skip perma banner and only build during events
The rest was answered by cheeky

[soft raft]

oh yeah they removed the Enterprise/Hood/Sandy/Illustrious selector reward in exchange for the Shinano/NJ one

Rip

[undone plover]

yeah I was answering duck who asked about secondaries but I did not reply

[noble fjord]

the 3rd question is optional, but yeah

[molten zinc]

gotta love how they add an exchange UR mission in there fr

[vale spindle]

Already working on it

[viscid swift]

yeah just read the newbie tips for now

[noble fjord]

my ships + inventory

[meager tiger]

1. yes but use a thread
2. every banner, certain ships have an increased chance to drop. UR events have a pity at 200 pulls to get the UR ship guaranteed, but the rest are up to chance or getting them through event shop/stage clear rewards. pulling on permanent banners gives u a random ship but you should save cubes (gacha currency) for events only
3. only age limit relevant here is being old enough to have a discord account without violating discord tos, other than that its irrelevant
4. look at newbie tips guide ryza linked

[tight drift]

Warspite and U-101 are the two who you can use until late game

[pseudo hearth]

Wanna double check, for the voucher missions, the named ship needs to survive the battle correct?

[vale spindle]

riceist guide is on ectl now so i was gonna rewrite it anyways

[viscid swift]

no

[noble fjord]

can i get coins fast lol

[rapid grail]

i stand corrected

[meager tiger]

your coin income is mediocre in the early game until you get to common coin farm stages like 9-4 and 12-4, and from there your most valuable resource becomes oil

[noble fjord]

i’m not sure what gameplay stuff to start with first

[strong tartan]

warspites not worth your time or resources and u101 is only noteworthy after augment

[worldly pewter]

make a beginner fleet
push to 3-4 then start the event

[pseudo hearth]

I see, so I can just slot them in at lvl 1 and still get vouchers?

[noble fjord]

one of the new event characters looks so pretty

[viscid swift]

again, read the newbie tips and start pushing the campaign a bit until you can farm the event

[noble fjord]

ok!

[undone plover]

when u make the fleet according to that guide show us just to be sure

[noble fjord]

“DO NOT FARM 3-4” 💀💀

[noble fjord]

i will try my best

[meager tiger]

push to 15-4 with long island/langley/nevada and beagle/bogue/fumizuki

[sweet delta]

For the handbook, is it 6 missions to unlock the next phase but 8 missions to get the final phase reward like 20 cubes?

[viscid swift]

yes

[noble fjord]

this is mine rn

[visual bane]

Oh my god it’s duck

[noble fjord]

what

[viscid swift]

case and point

[undone plover]

ok
Now go read the guide and change it cuz this will struggle

[tight drift]

Not bad for now, but need an upgrade after. You can follow the handbook for gameplay.

[noble fjord]

i am confused

[undone plover]

which part

[viscid swift]

about what

[worldly pewter]

no unicorn means it is kinda bad though

[sweet delta]

Bad advice is worse than lack of advice

[tight drift]

Yeah it makes sence, my bad

[noble fjord]

same but i switched some stuff around

[meager tiger]

best cl gun secondaries for bbs is a tossup between belfast gun and 155kai right? just making sure

[viscid swift]

read the newbie tips first

then fix the fleet

[undone plover]

post the link again cheeky I think they missed it

[glossy granite]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[worldly pewter]

do u take ise instead of warspite ?

[viscid swift]

I would

[atomic abyss]

I would

[worldly pewter]

[atomic abyss]

Ise has flat 20% FP buff iirc

[vale spindle]

Hyuuga better

[atomic abyss]

Not as good as hyuuga admittedly
Who has that and a 15% backline FP buff I think

[glossy granite]

The goat himself samheart

[atomic abyss]

Wait no

[tight drift]

Ise replace Zippy also correct?

[worldly pewter]

sadly no hyuuga in the dock

[vale spindle]

Either way both have good tech so doesn't matter

[atomic abyss]

Hyuuga only had the backline buff

[vale spindle]

ise has a carrier buff instead

[undone plover]

ch14 155 kai
everywhere else plymouth gun > triple 155

[vale spindle]

Both have self fp buffs but ise has some avi fleetwide buff and hyuuga has an fp one instead iirc

[worldly pewter]

no she replaces warspite
u get unicorn from the guild shop then the last spot we can discuss it

[vale spindle]

smh my head ender arent you a day 1 player

[noble fjord]

i don’t have enterprise

[atomic abyss]

Hyuuga and Ise are not day 1

[vale spindle]

im wrong anyways ise doesnt have a fleetwide buff

[tight drift]

yeah he need to read the newbie tips and get Unicorn ASAP for further gameplays

[atomic abyss]

Use something else to fill in the slot
Worst case ranger

Also read the newbie guide

[worldly pewter]

is leveling hwa jah not a good option ?

[undone plover]

i think she is reading it now

[viscid swift]

sigh

[undone plover]

she uses sea planes pre retrofit which is

[atomic abyss]

Horrible

[worldly pewter]

yeah retro is kinda mandatory

[meager tiger]

hows the new UR gun btw

[worldly pewter]

but i think she is very strong after that

[atomic abyss]

Better than NJ gun

[tight drift]

Very good

[atomic abyss]

...for w15 support fleet yes

Admittedly you can use her as discount discount Rumey but

[meager tiger]

oh ew HE ammo type? real men run sap only bb guns

[atomic abyss]

Real men that actually survive actually use the correct guns for the correct situation

[hollow gust]

tf? the ammo type that does no damage against heavy

[atomic abyss]

And not unga bunga try to brute force everything

[sharp socket]

what do i wishing well

[molten zinc]

real men use CV for everything

[meager tiger]

real men only use +13 triple 381 from pr1

[atomic abyss]

Real idiots more like

Is there even a triple 381 in PR1

[worldly pewter]

cv

[atomic abyss]

Wasn't it a twin 381

[meager tiger]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_381mm_(BL_15"_Mk_III_Prototype)

[molten zinc]

Monarch gun

[undone plover]

centaur and albion imo

[atomic abyss]

Oh right they redesigned that

[sweet delta]

real men get kicked from gph for trolling

[atomic abyss]

It's just a worse mk6 no?

[viscid swift]

when not +13 yes

[meager tiger]

its technically slightly better at +13 than mk6 but resource investment doesnt justify it

[tight drift]

Better than MK6 only after +12

[meager tiger]

considering mk6 costs less to upgrade cuz purple rarity and you dont have to +13 it

[forest palm]

pick up Katsuragi for +1 Hit and Percy for +2 AVI

[undone plover]

why not albion and centaur for +4 hit and +2 avi

[viscid swift]

Percy is CVL only AVI

[undone plover]

percy is also only cvl tech

[sharp socket]

those 2 have good collection tech too?

[forest palm]

[noble fjord]

wait is this good

i did 2 pulls

[weary gust]

Cleo is meh.

[undone plover]

she is average but u shouldnt use her as a new player

[noble fjord]

oh why

[undone plover]

stick with the beginner fleet
gold bulins should go into more useful ships

[weary gust]

Not useful skills, only 1 mg mount.

[forest palm]

resource heavy

[noble fjord]

whag is the beginner fleet then? the newbie guide doesn’t rly tell me specifically

[undone plover]

pennsylvania unicorn flex portland helena laffey/z23

[atomic abyss]

The newbie guide actually shows that I'm fairly sure

[viscid swift]

bruh

[tight drift]

Should get Independence, Helena, Unicorn from the shops

[viscid swift]

not Independence

[weary gust]

Independence is good for 2nd fleet. She needs retro to be good.

Not ideal for a new player when Unicorn already takes priority for retro mats.

[viscid swift]

I'm gonna premptively say fuck Independence

[noble fjord]

idk if i have them

[weary gust]

What is this Independence slander

[worldly pewter]

port unicorn from the shop then refresh for helena
u can replace pennsy with ise and the last spot is discussable

[viscid swift]

then get them from the guild shop

[undone plover]

the guide explains to buy them in the guild shop

[atomic abyss]

You get them from the guild shop
Check the beginner guide, it tells you where and how to get them

[viscid swift]

literally explains how to

[sweet delta]

I'm gonna premptively say you're not putting in the effort to read

[noble fjord]

i got pennsylvania

[sweet delta]

Unless the beginner guide has changed drastically and sucks since I last read it years ago

[undone plover]

good
now get unicorn from the elite option and then hit refresh at top right corner

[viscid swift]

two words
Gaming Table

i.e. when the gaming table inevitably gets added Independence and the Black Shell are gonna fall lower on the core data shop priority

[undone plover]

tbh I would take indep over a black shell

[weary gust]

... gaming table?

[viscid swift]

Admiralty Fire Control Table

[noble fjord]

i have 420 guild coins

[weary gust]

I don't see how that hurts Independence. She buffs CVs. You'd still use her for CV cross fleet.

[viscid swift]

what tf did you spend them on

[undone plover]

did u get unicorn at least

[noble fjord]

i’m reading it, but there’s a lot on there

[weary gust]

And she's strong by herself for campaign/mobbing.

[atomic abyss]

[viscid swift]

I'm saying that as a priority for new players to get she'll fall quite a bit lower

[noble fjord]

one of the ships

[atomic abyss]

You may have unironically bricked your account

[meager tiger]

wild

[undone plover]

u start with 3000 I think
u must have used it on a lot of other things

[atomic abyss]

Or at least slowed down your progress massively

[noble fjord]

why

[weary gust]

Not bricked but just closed off an early shortcut.

[tight drift]

I just realized that he can't make warspite UR as the lack of retrofit material. Then Ise is definately better.

[viscid swift]

I don't particularly value Independence right now as is because of her cost and good alternatives but the addition of the AFCT will be the final nail in the coffin as far as I'm concerned

[atomic abyss]

Warspite is shit even with her retro so lol

[noble fjord]

i can start over ig

[weary gust]

Likely not worth doing unless you started literally today.

[tight drift]

lol true

[atomic abyss]

I would consider starting over if you started today

[noble fjord]

i started a few weeks ago but took a break and just came back

[atomic abyss]

He can't exchange for uni...

That's uh, not good lol

[weary gust]

Uni can be obtained in other places. Game isn't impossible without her by any means.

[viscid swift]

I'm still not sure where all of the guild tokens went, did you buy out the shop or something

[meager tiger]

cant he just join a guild and get coins

[slow fox]

-# Can't they just regularly build a fleet? Uni not required, and they'll surely have her when they need her.

[worldly pewter]

yeah better to start over
and pray for early lion

[meager tiger]

also this

[atomic abyss]

Not really
Healer is what carries the fleet hard thru early game lol

[viscid swift]

mebot, not using Uni is a literal net loss in eHP

[noble fjord]

essentially what’s the america server

[viscid swift]

what

[atomic abyss]

There isn't one

[noble fjord]

then what server should i pick

[atomic abyss]

They're all the same

[slow fox]

-# I remember my early game I just used levelled ships and Shouhou

[tight drift]

same ones

[atomic abyss]

Ah yes
The Shouhou that also costs guild coins

[worldly pewter]

the only difference is the medal shop

[atomic abyss]

Unless you went out of your way to farm one or lucked out

[noble fjord]

the one i picked first was enterprise

[worldly pewter]

is there a way to check the medal shops for each server ?

[atomic abyss]

/wiki medal_shop

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Medal_Shop

[slow fox]

-# I think I lucked out. Was just clearing. She shouldn't be too rare anyways.

[undone plover]

alpha updates wiki

[pulsar drum]

Are the new skins bugged in some way? Seems any time they pop up, even going into the free trial skin thing, the game just freezes.

[slow fox]

-# I think this discussion is far too endgame-pilled. Unicorn is NOT the only healer

[undone plover]

avrora is best medal shop

[meager tiger]

try checking assets and doing a repair in settings

[sweet delta]

She is rare

[undone plover]

CV + DD

[noble fjord]

i do avrora then

[sweet delta]

Only becomes elite After retrofit

[undone plover]

but unlikely to get 120 medal in 7 days

[weary gust]

If he wasted his guild coins then he's already wasted them. Starting a new account just for the guild coins is a last resort if he has no other time investment into the account. Not having Uni RIGHT NOW won't kill his account, she'll drop eventually from somewhere and in the meantime he'll just have to deal without her.

[atomic abyss]

Check #tech-support pins

[worldly pewter]

wait

[noble fjord]

yep new acc

[atomic abyss]

And pray tell, where does uni drop?

[undone plover]

sure but I dont think anyone is forcing them to restart and if they dont mind then it is better in the long run

[atomic abyss]

Earliest is 4-4 iirc
And you're not farming that realistically

[noble fjord]

i didnt buy anything tho

[worldly pewter]

that is DD CA i think
all of the other have BB CV

[noble fjord]

and i was only level 15 iirc

[weary gust]

From a lot of places?

[tight drift]

Uni is not hard to get

[undone plover]

which column did u check?

[noble fjord]

why

[viscid swift]

allow me to be blunt, you're either blind or have demensia then
you start off with 4.2 thousand guild tokens

thats more than enough tp get all the ships reccomended in the newbie tips and then some

[atomic abyss]

Farming for uni from a map
Is the same as farming Saratoga or even the foxes

[weary gust]

Honestly you guys are making this a WAY bigger deal than it is. Unicorn isn't MANDATORY. Ideally he'd get her from guild shop but he's already burned that bridge. It's not the end of the world.

[worldly pewter]

@undone plover i was reading 2024

[viscid swift]

thats not even the main issue right now

[worldly pewter]

yeah it was avrora i was a little bit blind

[viscid swift]

the bigger question is what tf happened to all those guild tokens

[noble fjord]

well i spent some of them obviously

[slow fox]

-# For guild upgrades?

[weary gust]

"I didn't buy anything tho"

[viscid swift]

on what exactly, Pennsylvania is only 300 guild tokens

[weary gust]

They went somewhere.

[noble fjord]

ya’ll don’t gotta be pissed 😭🙏🏻

[atomic abyss]

Anyways

[undone plover]

anyway relax guys it is just a game
we are trying to help someone not start a war

[atomic abyss]

They're starting anew

[noble fjord]

oh yeah i got edinburgh

[atomic abyss]

Let's just fix it from the beginning

[viscid swift]

thats not guild tokens

[tight drift]

Do you have enough left for the ones in newbie tips?

[noble fjord]

my fault for being confused ig

[tight drift]

edinburgh well...

[viscid swift]

this is the guild shop

[undone plover]

it is ok
it has been a long day in gph
everyone means well

[weary gust]

Honestly GPH needs to chill sometimes. People here get way too wrapped up in doing things one specific way.

[undone plover]

just to make sure u dont mess up
buy portland and buy unicorn THEN hit refresh and buy helena and penny

[worldly pewter]

it was biloxi

[undone plover]

I agree but restarting at level 15 is not the worst thing

[atomic abyss]

Edinburgh and Biloxi both use guild coins

[noble fjord]

started

[noble fjord]

i know

[weary gust]

And like I said before, unless he started today (or equivalent lack of progress) then restarting wouldn't be worth it. If he hasn't progressed much then yeah, restart account is totally valid.

[noble fjord]

OH WAIT I DONTATED SMTH TO THE GUILD

[undone plover]

read this pls

[viscid swift]

he literally did

[noble fjord]

she* lol

[worldly pewter]

in a fast chat like this u should ping the player by adding @ or replying to their comment

[tight drift]

Guild coins are nowhere to spend in the late stage gameplay XD

[noble fjord]

i’ll ss this

[undone plover]

take your time
dont rush
and read that guide we sent
it has more information

[viscid swift]

and read it thoroughly this time

[tight drift]

Should she try the event GOTCHA first or the trevi fountain？

[little tree]

Always event gathca

[viscid swift]

always the event, never wishing well

[noble fjord]

this game genuinely seems fun, i like the historic battle ship themes, but it’ll take time for me to actually get things right lol

[viscid swift]

if you just read and listen to advice you'll be fine

the game isn't difficult, it just has a learning curve

[noble fjord]

i’ll look at it instead of skim over it once i get those ships i need

[weary gust]

A correction here, the term "gacha" comes from the Japaense ontomotopeia for the noise machines that dispensed collectible toys randomly made. It's not a "got ya". Second I have no idea where you came up with "Trevi fountain" for Wishing Well.

[pseudo hearth]

It's alright, stuff is a lot more complicated than when most of us started, and we've had time to slowly adjust. You'll be fine though. Don't forget though the most important thing is to have fun with it, it is a game afterall.

[patent pivot]

I don't have all of them on a page no. But just can help if you need it getting them

[little tree]

@slow fox what world do you do the ehp testing in

[tight drift]

Sorry fot that, since I'm not playing in English-based server often then many things I may mistranslate during the conversation

[weary gust]

He tests?

[little tree]

~~ sushi gives misformation according to the bot~~

[little tree]

~~ supposedly~~

[solid maple]

I wanna know if Lion's S2 can stack with Vanguard's S2

[weary gust]

I thought the eHP stuff was all just math calcs.

[pseudo hearth]

Technically everything is math calcs

[little tree]

I was under the assumption this was tested

[worldly pewter]

they seem like unique sides so they stack

[patent pivot]

Gimme a min, I'll get out of bed and check

[solid maple]

Thx

[noble fjord]

yes! thanks :}

[slow fox]

He's right. I'm a theorist. All the eHP I do is math.

[little tree]

[slow fox]

Testing is given as an exercise to the reader. And Suchimisinformation.

[noble fjord]

i got a free skin ooo

[slow fox]

Do you desire to see testing?

[little tree]

I would only for the fact of aa worlds vs non aa worlds

[weary gust]

I mean for the most part the ehp cals are pretty reliable. Where it breaks down are the ships who have invulnerability skills (like Anchorage) where their ehp will drastically change depending on when it procs and what they're against.

[little tree]

~~ if I had more 120 ships I would test my self ~~

[weary gust]

Law of large number averages makes things like AA damage, evasion, and %damage resist skills be reliable in the end after you take 200 bullets to the face.

[noble fjord]

i wonder if the USS Midway is in this game

[slow fox]

The theory (lol) behind this revolves around mixed probabilities, which is more-or-less a solved game in calculationspace.

[strong tartan]

not yet stay tuned

[soft raft]

she is not
and she probably wont be for a good while

[sweet delta]

/wiki midway

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Midway_Showdown

[noble fjord]

oh dang 😔 i’ve been on the ship actually

[little tree]

~~Misinformation ~~

[little tree]

So that's sort of taken into account

[noble fjord]

Lol anyway i’m about to clear 1-3. can i get the guild stuff after?

[slow fox]

It's not sort of taken into account. The theory behind the "average number" I give you is complete. It IS taken into account.

[noble fjord]

she should be!!

[plain saffron]

I don't understand anything but i trust mebot

[noble fjord]

wait lowkey they should add the queen mary bc during ww2 it was actually a military ship

[slow fox]

Specifically, a mixture of Bernoulli trials with probability equivalent to the density of different types of damage. Individually, each of the bullets gives a negative binomial. When combined, we get a negative binomial (nonanalytic). Large Numbers allows me to estimate it as a Gaussian.

[weary gust]

I'm an engineer and I understood about 90% of that. Didn't take too much statistics courses but I get the gist of it.

[noble fjord]

i’m starting to nerd out about this game bc my brother, who is very much into battle ships and ships in general, told me to play this game

[weary gust]

tldr weighted average of probabilities for each damage type. yes? With a range.

[slow fox]

Things I haven't found out yet:

1 - How does mixture of bullets affect the STD?
2 - How does %activation skills affect the STD?
3 - How does movement affect mean and STD?

[slow fox]

-# engineer 🤝 physicist

[slow fox]

Yes. NOT the weighted average of eHP. This gives you infinities and zeros, which is bad.

[little tree]

My brother is a physicist and he hates the engineers

[slow fox]

-# He doesn't know

[little tree]

sushi knows best

[patent pivot]

i went through and found that vanguards debuff ID is some number. that only time that ever gets used is on vanguard skill. i tried to find lions skill but that shit is fuckin buried deep. so yes they stack (in general most things stack)

[slow fox]

-# Finally. Yahoomisinformation

[weary gust]

I think that's the biggest variable. You'd have to account for the movement patterns of ships and the bullet densities in each area of the map.

[patent pivot]

we both know ALO gph doesnt want testing, they want solutions

[weary gust]

The others are probably trivial deviations

[sweet delta]

I know mebot likes low eHP kv

[little tree]

~~ testing would nice if it was possible ~~

[slow fox]

I do some testing - but the only testing available is in specific environments where I control the variables in order to verify relative differences.

[weary gust]

Is there any way to see exact HP numbers of ships during battles/in the fleet overview screens? Because without that you'd be measuring pixels on HP bars and guesstimating damages taken.

[undone plover]

I think u will find #al-general or #history better for these dicsussions
this channel is mostly for the gameplay

[slow fox]

-# This is my method lmao

[thorn tartan]

Cat question: I finally popped a Steel with Flame (and level 1 helm and level 1 officer). My first talent upgrade lets me upgrade one of those or add Loading as a 4th talent. What should I do? Get the loading talent, or wait to see if I get something better, like the wolf or another UR talent?

[little tree]

The environment and fleet comps would drastically change testing ill read this

[light trail]

if i use the rookie mission invitation, does it disappear from my inventory or does it turn into a commemorative item in the depot

[slow fox]

That's fine. There are statistical methods to normalize the differences between two different environments.

[patent pivot]

one of these days ill get the autotester to work for campaign

[worldly pewter]

basically u get stuck
we fix u

[sweet delta]

I wouldn't reroll that steel. So take 6 upgrades and that's it. Helm is useless , reload is good

[thorn tartan]

I can't change helm right. It came with helm flame and officer.

[weary gust]

The base talents can never be changed

[undone plover]

sushi means dont reroll the cat
Just upgrade it and make the best of it as is

[noble fjord]

oh yeah what banners should i pull on

[thorn tartan]

So level reload, officer and loading and call it a day?

[undone plover]

basically yeah
get as much rld and trp as u can

[undone plover]

event banner until u get lion
then start saving

[thorn tartan]

officer and loading will take 4 points. I'll have 2 extra for my 5th talent then.

[undone plover]

there is a TRP talent I think
pray u get that one
or alpha wolf (the special SS talent)
excess points will be wasted but who cares

[thorn tartan]

I read that you can reroll all the non-starting talents.

[worldly pewter]

prepare ur coins

[thorn tartan]

So I could grab loading and see what comes in 5th talent

[silk sphinx]

Takes a lot of coins, can get bunch of useless talents, and time consuming

[weary gust]

It's not always the same selection

[undone plover]

yes but usually rerolling is to min/max cats
and u should min/max stuff that has a chance to be perfect or at least close
like at least aim for 9 pter cats

[silk sphinx]

Literally count thousands a day, and perfect starter will still take in the six plus digits of coins to roll possibly

[light trail]

anyone used their UR invitation yet?

[noble fjord]

um.

[thorn tartan]

The starting talents are fixed but the 6 leveling talents are rerollable?

[worldly pewter]

min maxing cats for what content is the question

[noble fjord]

it was 2 pulls…

[silk sphinx]

I don’t recall any invitations ever disappearing

[spring basin]

yeah i got nj bc my shin is maxed

[thorn tartan]

for lack of something better to do with my coins

[stark quiver]

very nice

[undone plover]

congrats
use her in your 6th slot in the beginner fleet

[noble fjord]

😭😭😭

[spring basin]

in the handbook rookie missions

[stark quiver]

kent dayo

[noble fjord]

is this normal?????????? lmao

[weary gust]

Grats you won the lottery. Made a new account and got the only thing from the event worth spending cubes on. Now just do 1 light build per day to save cubes for next events.

[turbid marsh]

rookie buff

[light trail]

did u get a UR invitation item/commemorative item in ur depot after using it?

[weary gust]

It's not super uncommon but you did get lucky.

[worldly pewter]

new player stuff dw

[stark quiver]

rng does wonders

[spring basin]

yes it should be w the rainbow items as an envelope.

[turbid marsh]

its okay, you ll get events where you have to spend 400 coobs XD

[light trail]

sick okok

[silk sphinx]

Never mind I misunderstood the question

[noble fjord]

she’s rly pretty

[worldly pewter]

now time to speedrun to make her strong too

[weary gust]

She won't be useful to you right now but in the future she will be. You need UR Bulins to limit break her before you can use her.

[sweet delta]

*You won $10 in the lottery

[noble fjord]

yall told me to get her 😭

[light trail]

oh it's not a rainbow commemorative item rip. oh well. just liked the rainbow background lol maybe i shoulda saved it

[weary gust]

Yes, it's good that you got her. But she's a future investment.

[noble fjord]

luck is on my side all the time i swear

[sweet delta]

She is better at 0LB than whatever other shit that's available to new players

[worldly pewter]

she should be useful right now

[weary gust]

Still use the newbie fleet because you won't have the resources to make use of Lion yet.

[atomic abyss]

Not in this case

[sweet delta]

Follow this

[atomic abyss]

Lion will be the flex slot

[noble fjord]

the little animation is awesome

[pseudo hearth]

There are plenty of ships in this game that are museum ships (some that are actually very good), such as New Jersey (parked in its namesake state), and Yorktown 2 and Laffey 2 (both parked at Patriots Point in South Carolina) to name a few.

[weary gust]

Will she be useful once they're at w8 and she's still 1 limit break?

[atomic abyss]

Lion barrage is also quite cracked tbh

[noble fjord]

i saw the alabama too

[atomic abyss]

It's a Musashi situation

[undone plover]

UR bulin income is not that bad
in 2 weeks they can have her MLB if they are active

[weary gust]

Eh.

[atomic abyss]

Lion barrage is stonks

[noble fjord]

i love her aesthetic sm

[undone plover]

focus on gameplay and questions for this channel pls

[noble fjord]

i will lol

[worldly pewter]

less chatting more working

[atomic abyss]

In any case

[light trail]

oh yeah, there was a 96MB (or so) update this morning, did that change anything important?

[noble fjord]

yes i’ll go grind now

[atomic abyss]

The recommendation for Lion in the third backline slot is a very sane one

[atomic abyss]

^

[weary gust]

Prob just patches.

[worldly pewter]

in jp they fixed some minor display issues with skins i think

[noble fjord]

💀

[pseudo hearth]

Just so you’re aware, every few months there’ll be UR events like this one. Usually it’s one during the year that will have two URs available at the same time (which is what we have now with Lion and Trafalgar), but you’ll see a couple more throughout the year, with one specifically being on the JP server’s anniversary as well. So make sure to save up for those events when you can, because the URs that come out are always going to be some of the best ships in the game.

[noble fjord]

ok!

[pseudo hearth]

All in all, the game is very F2P friendly, so you shouldn’t have a problem saving up between big events as long as you don’t spend cubes carelessly.