gameplay-help

[whole crypt]

you don't just randomly gain gun mounts, it's fixed for each ship on LBs

[viscid swift]

mgm+1 means every reload cycle your main gun fires twice

[whole crypt]

the thing is you don't compare it to having one mount less on the ship, you simply LB and get the mount anyway, and usually alongside some gun eff

[sweet delta]

No Helena, no BB sync, short enough battle.
Or very short two salvo battle with Helena and no Musashi.

[vagrant spoke]

Wot about effectiveness. What’s that

[whole crypt]

if you mean slot efficiency it's simply a damage multiplier

[viscid swift]

main gun efficiency is just a damage multiplier

same with torps and AA guns

[keen sable]

2nd volley? tends to be the least accurate in my experience

[vagrant spoke]

What’s a ghost aa gun

[sweet delta]

No because the second and third mounts are more likely to miss , and most BBs have skill barrages

[viscid swift]

what it sounds like, an AA gun whose stats you can't see in game

[keen sable]

need ghost aa meme like aber mount

[inland shoal]

Ghost gun in general is an extra gun a ship just has but you cannot interact with (remove or replace)

[sweet delta]

an AA gun that the ship has no matter how you gear her

[sweet delta]

I can't see default AA gun stats in game

[vagrant spoke]

Is it worth using something like avp for battleship barrages?

[whole crypt]

ghost != default

the question is what boss are you fighting with that, and what the BBs are

[wispy pendant]

So i'm at UR pity, but I'm caught up on all old UR's... not sure there is any reason to use it other than to retire and get medals. Any reason I'm not thinking of?

[whole crypt]

display wardrobe

you could cope and wait for Shimakaze, if you need her

[stark quiver]

fleet power

[whole crypt]

but the notification is annoying and you'll probably get enough again anyway

[meager gyro]

@whole crypti think im doing something right?

[eternal basalt]

(not to mention if you got all the next the add will be useless too)

[vagrant spoke]

What’s the best way to get more purple repair toolkits

[viscid swift]

opening tech boxes

[keen sable]

12+ and (events obviously)

[whole crypt]

opening more boxes

[vagrant spoke]

Ig I’m just super unlucky

[eternal basalt]

Farm foxes if you still need to, 1:1

[whole crypt]

they won't give the best gear, but should give you a nice set of poverty gear at least if you keep opening

[keen sable]

toolkits are overrated anyway

[whole crypt]

which stages drop toolkit anyway

[meager gyro]

also opened like 20ish gold boxes just now and got some nice stuff

[vagrant spoke]

Idk what to put for aux gear so I just default to toolkits

Can’t go wrong with extra health rite

[whole crypt]

there are other HP auxes that may end up being more useful than toolkits but bottom line you might want to learn which ships will want auxes that are not toolkits first

[sweet delta]

It's only wrong if the suboptimality ends up killing your ship

[eternal basalt]

All limited though

[whole crypt]

you can go wrong with the extra HP on your BBs and CVs for example, when they should get damage stat auxes instead

@steady beacon 1/5 again today, 🎲 is going to 🎲

[steady beacon]

Is 2 SG a guaranteed kill for you?

[keen sable]

or you time out, or another ship dies, or you refuse to leave 3-4 because don't have 30 toolboxes yet

[whole crypt]

I'm not sure if some of those 1.34Ms are the 2nd proc being lame on third scan

but I've seen kills with 2nd scan on 3rd

[steady beacon]

OK, that's the info I'm most interested in
We can't control Helena's moods or how much she wants to screw us on any given day
But at least knowing the thresholds for kill is valuable

[whole crypt]

so I'm at 10/18 now

[sharp token]

what should i mlb for PR grind?

[whole crypt]

but bottom line Helena always survives until third proc timing, so that's not an issue

[whole crypt]

whichever of those you decide to use

[steady beacon]

Excellent

[meager gyro]

bro what, the hazemeyer i crafted 2 days ago or so disappeared

[plain saffron]

It won't disappear randomly

[whole crypt]

if you didn't scrap it by accident you probably just have it equipped somewhere

[calm rose]

what fleet is this?

[meager gyro]

nah, i had one on nj already and thats showing up

[plain saffron]

There's more than NJ in your dock

[undone plover]

As much as I like graf zeppelin her lv 120 tech is pretty useless so use the other 3 if u can
Bisko and tirpitz being better tech than lutzow at 2fp

[whole crypt]

if you're sure you have a second one that you didn't scrap or craft into a STAAG try relogging

[meager gyro]

oh, im stupid, i never crafted it

i just thought i crafted it

[plain saffron]

This is...

[meager gyro]

now its showing

[eager mulch]

Sparta

[meager gyro]

so uh who gets it?

[whole crypt]

words, I have not

[viscid swift]

you guys are surprised at this

[eager mulch]

I’m not

[meager gyro]

should i craft it into a bofors staag?

[whole crypt]

I'm not

[steady beacon]

If you try out that fleet, even as a variation, please let me know how you go with it

[eager mulch]

I’m turtle

[viscid swift]

anyway, how well does this work?

[whole crypt]

not now

[whole crypt]

10/18 so far

[steady beacon]

Definitely better than that nutjob CN BB fleet comp

[calm rose]

yea, sure

[whole crypt]

own fights should have a fair chance of hitting over 90% after barrage

[meager gyro]

should i change the aa?

[calm rose]

when does META support barrage starts?

[whole crypt]

after 30 days from start of season

[steady beacon]

Honestly, before worrying about the AA, I'd worry about all equipment being completely unenhanced

[calm rose]

is there any specific tech reload for this btw.

[meager gyro]

just wann ask before i upgrade

[sweet delta]

My vanguard is low hp, how do I stop the crossfleets from killing everything before unicorn's second strike?

[whole crypt]

assume max main fleet RLD and oath

what are you trying to pull

[meager gyro]

after over 4 years its done, fdg is now dev30

[calm rose]

never thought this day will happen

[meager gyro]

wtf is fate simulation

[faint jacinth]

hello guys, i started new acc on jp, which ship to look around early?

[whole crypt]

yes the hazemeyer is better than trash can, but there might be a ship that wants it more than Anchorage, if you're using any other BBs

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

fate sim is basically just more dev levels that increase the luck and can improve the skills of a research ship

[meager gyro]

nj has hazemeyer, fdg has gold bofors, alsace has staag, vv has blue pom pom

tho im not really using vv atm

[whole crypt]

give FdG STAAG and Hazemeyer to Alsace

and don't bother using VV

[meager gyro]

vv not useful now anymore?

[whole crypt]

you're comparing her with a roster of 3 rainbow BBs

[faint jacinth]

ty

[cobalt rapids]

use percy

[whole crypt]

I'm molre curious what stigma is actually trying to do

[sweet delta]

Farm 13-1

[whole crypt]

how shit are the ships you're trying to bring

[silk helm]

can i scrap any of these

[full pumice]

im confused, why is the purple one better than the gold oon here? the fire rate is abouot the same (gold one on the top I mean)

[eager mulch]

gold one has a shit ammo type that

[eternal basalt]

The gold one is THRASH, newbie bait

[steady beacon]

Simply put, the pattern of the gold one is beyond awful

[full pumice]

ah

i still feel like im missing out by not choosing the shinier gun...

[eager mulch]

do it then and watch as your ship becomes literally useless

[steady beacon]

All that glitters is not gold and the like

If nothing else, use it for some fireworks

[frigid linden]

Is she any good?

[rain vine]

the gold one is called the confetti gun because thats exactly what youre shooting at the enemy

[eternal basalt]

You can get the 410 and put it on Musashi

[full pumice]

why the devs made it shiny tho?

[plain saffron]

[full pumice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1256286314383544461/image.png?ex=6680374e&is=667ee5ce&hm=f520987079267fada7aa888ee55dc38b37c30af9b16978dc4b1136f2c853b0f8&
and why make this one extra shiny??

[eager mulch]

[plain saffron]

well it's technically it's ultra rare since you only get one so far so i would say dev is right

[steady beacon]

I mean... unlike the Sanshikidan, you actually CAN make that work in some peculiar situations...
I have yet to see anyone make the Sanshikidan work for non-meme purposes, by contrast...

[grizzled sun]

New player here, I have Hood-Howe-Littorio-Joffre-Unicorn-Yorktown for my two fleets back line (lvl 80-90) and just pulled Alvitr, any advice who to replace from that line up with her?

[hollow gust]

That's some fucked up backline , best if you put it in a thread

[grizzled sun]

Using what I have, only third day

[plain saffron]

too much Super Rares

also focus on 1 fleet in early game

unicorn hood someone, portland, starter, helena

[viscid swift]

because how the devs intent things to be done and how player actually play the game are different from each other

[viscid swift]

you might wanna give that a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[grizzled sun]

Thanks!

[pulsar drum]

Is the EX mission in the event bugged? It won't let me sortie

[flint wyvern]

Were the agir skins limited time only?😭😭

[lament bay]

did you put 5 fleets in

[pulsar drum]

and the subs

[lament bay]

what is the error its saying then

[eternal basalt]

Black Friday, october

[pulsar drum]

Nothing. It literally just goes no where. Like the sortie button doesn't work.

The blue one works on the fleet creation. The one after doesn't

[flint wyvern]

Nooooooooo my thirst must continue then😭😭

[eager mulch]

Black Friday is in November

[eternal basalt]

The blue one is EX

Are you sure you did SP aalready, thats why?

[pulsar drum]

as in you can only do either SP or EX a day?

[flint wyvern]

Just got Agir and have been simping ever since😭

[eternal basalt]

No, only SP once a day

[eternal basalt]

Not an American

[pulsar drum]

EX isn't SP thuogh. So can you only do either or?

[rain vine]

SP is once a day
EX is infinite attempts

[twin coral]

Hmm gamers, does event construction drop UR ships? Or is it limited to the special and heavy construction

[eternal basalt]

But EX is the blue stage, there is no one after

[pulsar drum]

I can click the blue sortie button in the fleet creation. I can't get past this sortie button

[eternal basalt]

And all 5 fleets are set?

[pulsar drum]

yes

[plain saffron]

go to home and back here

or they fucked it

[soft raft]

Just don't use subs, ez

[sweet delta]

Turn the game off and on again

[viscid swift]

No events will ever have a chance at getting off banner URs

[twin coral]

Ty ty

[sweet delta]

until the devs decide to change it 🔮

[viscid swift]

Well as things stand currently it won't, they said as much when URs got added permanently

[eager mulch]

how good/bad is Alvitr shelling damage

[left cedar]

isnt she a copy of Brun ?

iirc, her barrage is similar, her skills have around the same % ... and stats are pretty much a copy with small diff

she is basically around the same as Brun, Odin and Rupp

[sweet delta]

Brun has slow and BB hit buff, while Alvitr has rng and better personal damage in expectation

[left cedar]

so, about the same as Brun ...

[sweet delta]

Average gold BB fr

[rocky fjord]

what's solo vs coalition

[snow lintel]

Is there a guide for good fleet comps for EX Academy Forest?

[rocky fjord]

i cant find the i buttons to read

[cobalt rapids]

coalition is more pts but u need multi fleet
solo is less pts but only 1 fleet

[rocky fjord]

what's the meta for pts

[cobalt rapids]

coalition

[keen sable]

press advice probably best advice ever

[whole crypt]

this EX isn't that hard if you have enough lv120-ish ships, the hard part is making 5 fleets before realizing the remaining 4 fleets can be absolute trash and you can drop after the first fight

[keen sable]

hence back to just press advice

[stark quiver]

advice put kaza as tank

[whole crypt]

for points you can cope with low costing normal if you want to save oil, but you can also just spam hard on coalition and gtfo from this rubbish format

[keen sable]

and?

[stark quiver]

guam as middle ship

[whole crypt]

I mean you could probably beat the first boss with Kazagumo and 2 common DDs as long as your main fleet can do damage

[keen sable]

i mean run it

if it works then advice was awesome

[stark quiver]

oh yea first boss is ez

[whole crypt]

you literally only need to kill the first boss and even if you get an A or a B

if you want to do point flex then have fun figuring out what to use, but just for getting the chips that's enough

[stark quiver]

i wanted to do point flex but not enough ships

[whole crypt]

that's a you problem
I just killed first boss and GTFO'd, not much worth flexing about this EX

[keen sable]

4th fleet advice picked anchorage mid and uni flag unicorn outhealed meofficer lol

[whole crypt]

time saved is better spent lowcosting normal

[forest palm]

people do EX

[whole crypt]

500 chips

[forest palm]

too little

[whole crypt]

every chip counts

event is doing great helping me save oil anyway going back to the grind soon

[forest palm]

500 chips ain't enough to motivate

[whole crypt]

frostfall format EX is laughable it's not like you actually need to do anything besides just letting the game pick ships for you

forget manual you probably don't even need to (re)gear the ships

[keen sable]

can confirm advice is good advice

[whole crypt]

for the record I killed the first boss with a PvP rig Musashi and a Guam that has no secondary gun

[zinc turret]

did the event hard stage even give decent exp ? i see the battle result of my repeat sorty at hard stage and its literally too few coin i think

[whole crypt]

the only good thing about this format is it's pretty quick to farm the points then you can forget it exists

unless you're masochistic like me and refuse to spend oil

[zinc turret]

i just realise its just give too few coin and no ship , only plate

[whole crypt]

hard with oilcap is only 5.6pt/oil

[agile sky]

Is there any note that i should be aware of when farming drop ships? Like should i be using the high efficiency drop thingy?

[keen sable]

if you want to play less, use HELP

[stark quiver]

get help

[whole crypt]

HELPs double the cost for basically doing 2 runs in 1, your ship morale and oil also drops twice as fast

generally you can just let auto do its thing because you only want to hit up boss ASAP
if you're doing a ship from before ch9 consider only sending as much as you actually need to clear to save costs

if you're doing a ch9+ drop then just send a full leveling fleet, unless of course it's 13+ and a leveling fleet doesn't survive

[agile sky]

So its a balancing game between time and material then?

[whole crypt]

last but not least if you're not at ch9 yet then forget about farming that drop and just push progression

not so much balancing just how much time you want to spend doing a farm session

[agile sky]

Nah, im at 12-1 and i finish farming the 1st part of a research ship but 2nd part isnt unlocked yet so farming the chpt 6 boss while waiting.

[keen sable]

XP is inline with other content. It's not particularly low but you don't actually fight much in Coalition.

like 15 fights gets you 2000 pts. In rondo 15 fights gets you 360 points.

[zinc turret]

what ? dont farm chapt 6 boss just keep farm 12-1

[keen sable]

720 if you use HELP i guess

[whole crypt]

cdc2 not unlocked

this concept may seem alien to you but you can finish the 1mil XP grind long before the 2mil opens up

[keen sable]

imagine wanting poi

[zinc turret]

yeah and must empty the sub

[forest palm]

you could do 1 mil, or 2 mil in a day, shits wild

[south orbit]

Why does emden have so much AA but she doesn’t have an AA gun slot?

[sweet delta]

Same reason as for carriers

[keen sable]

so she doesn't spring a leak when a paper plane hits her unlike sao or golden hind

[south orbit]

But she won’t shoot down planes?

[sweet delta]

Higher AA stat means less damage taken from enemy planes

[wispy pendant]

planes didn't exist when she was sailing the seas

[sweet delta]

[forest palm]

weaponized planes were around, just in its infancy

[sonic flame]

New torps are better than quad mag or a sidegrade?

[forest palm]

it's better

[south orbit]

I’m just trying to find good AA IB ships for chapter 13-4 auto

[keen sable]

that aren't named gz or avp or ps?

[sweet delta]

Best you can do is Nurnburg and Magde

[forest palm]

Emden shouldn't affect your AA at all

[south orbit]

Haha I just found that out rn

[wispy pendant]

there were naval weaponized planes before 1914?

[forest palm]

starting like...1911?

[wispy pendant]

aren't these the earliest air craft carriers?

[sweet delta]

#history

Can BBVs, IXs, ARs, and AEs do coalition hard without subs?

[eternal basalt]

If backed proper

[undone plover]

How efficient is the low-cost on normal?
How many Pt/oil?

[keen sable]

i see. three fleets to collect them all and in the process bind them something something lewd

[wind hazel]

it's 165 pts, so whatever low oil you can come up with

[undone plover]

Can mahan + ranger do it?

[wind hazel]

that's what i use fleet 1

i let unicorn+shitter dd take care of fleet 2

[undone plover]

Oh I see
Can another mahan ranger do the 2nd battle?

[wind hazel]

never tried cause only 1 ranger

[keen sable]

IX in SS is ok? it doesn't really matter I consider it ok and it isn't cheating on homework but less oil is good I guess.

[red stirrup]

Please help pick a new tank for SIOPS

[hushed aurora]

How good is z47? Are light armored enemys prevalent in harder stages?

[wispy pendant]

I also want to know, does she make it onto the "Z fleet", and who is in the z fleet these days?

[crimson glacier]

She doesn't seem like anything amazing imo

[eternal plinth]

Iirc there are a lot in w14-15 but still a good amount of heavy armor

[keen sable]

prevalent doesn't mean dangerous

[soft raft]

(but at the same time Z47 will highly be unlikely to make it to the W14 list anyways)

[crimson glacier]

Is there any reason to ever use her when you could just bring ddg

[eternal plinth]

I was going to try to max and put in W15 fleet so I can get rid of the annoying light armor characters

[crimson glacier]

W15? Lol

[soft raft]

She's most definitely not making it to W15 lmaoooo

[eternal plinth]

My fleets are janky 💀

[crimson glacier]

Even More janky with her

[eternal plinth]

Her vs Allen m sumner kekw

[hushed aurora]

I am just asking around because I realy look into changing vampire meta here because everyone says that she is shit even though she is lvl 10 on all her skills. And Sydlitz would profit from at least another mate from IB

[soft raft]

Allen at least has higher than usual AA for a DD

[polar venture]

Is the event worth spending cubes? I've got 119

[eternal plinth]

I think z46/47 are similar but I haven’t directly compared their stats

[soft raft]

Yeah cuz she is shit
Elite METAs are basically universally shit outside of fleet tech and Fortune META if you #pvp

[wispy pendant]

don't take it as gospel, but ectl has a list of DDs, and vampire and vampire meta ranks very very low.

[eternal basalt]

You decide, maybe Vanguard rerun 18th july?

[keen sable]

significantly better but worth gold bulins?

[hushed aurora]

Fair enough

[soft raft]

Not really
Pull if you need Iron Blood tech or want to pull for Waifu (or both), otherwise do 1 daily light pull and save for the imminent Vanguard Rerun

[polar venture]

Is she ur? I'm still kinda new

[eternal plinth]

Yes

[crimson glacier]

this event mostly just seems to be collection% filler

[soft raft]

Yes
Vanguard has very strong utility as support for full BB fleets

[wispy pendant]

yes, hms vanguard is a UR BB... not to be confused with vanguard ships, which are frontline ships

[hushed aurora]

Is it even worth it to go for a UR unit if you dont have the bullies for it? Only have 1 currently and could buy another 1. Already wasted them on alsace (to be fair it was worth it)

[wispy pendant]

you are not a fleet tech enjoyer i see

[crimson glacier]

im not going to recommend ppl to pull for tech

[wispy pendant]

UR's are worth, you'll eventually get the bulins

[eternal basalt]

She is META, and elite

[soft raft]

Well when we're talking from a newbie perspective, lvl 120 tech is the least of their concerns

[wispy pendant]

true, 400 cubes is recommended prior to any mention of fleet tech pulling

[eternal basalt]

@keen sable Seems you quoted the wrong post then

[wispy pendant]

also, if you're a fleet tech enjoyer, you are also spending money for dock space

[eternal plinth]

Small price to pay for stat buff

[crimson glacier]

you can just retire ships that are 120

[keen sable]

I don't think so? Asking around refers to "How good is z47?"

[urban spruce]

What do these do? I thought they were like the free ship vouchers from Rondo rerun but when I go to construction they don't do that, do they increase the chance of getting a event ships? I can't find them in my depot after getting one either

[eternal basalt]

Upgrade the +morale "kindergarten" of the event

[crimson glacier]

those are just for event milestone rewards

[urban spruce]

Kay, thank!

[soft raft]

This is where you use them

[echo adder]

i accidentaly used 20 cubes in the new german banner, wish i had used on the NJ one, does that 20 still count on the UR selection thingy?

[crimson glacier]

yes

[soft raft]

Yeah that still counts
All non UR banners count towards pity

Also as a side note, don't hard pull special or heavy for them

[keen sable]

good play. far better than NJ

[eternal basalt]

Don't worry, event is better than "NJ banner"

[urban spruce]

Thanks

[eager mulch]

Pulling on NJ banner is a terrible idea

[echo adder]

i just need NJ tbh

[grizzled sun]

Is the cost for cog chips between elite and sr a lot for post lvl 100?

[crimson glacier]

NJ is tied for the weakest UR BB

[eternal plinth]

What’s the other

[echo adder]

bruh i have Musashi and warspite, they better?

[soft raft]

Then you can do that slowly with event pulls and your daily light instead of splurging all your cubes on heavy/special and missing new URs

NJ and Shinano ain't going anywhere

[crimson glacier]

musashi is way better, warspite doesnt even count as UR tbh

[eternal plinth]

Musashi one of the best

[soft raft]

Way better than Warspite, worse than Musashi

[echo adder]

also i have a maxxed Musashi and a extra copy of her, do i retire it?

[crimson glacier]

probably

[eternal plinth]

Sure why not

[soft raft]

Warspite shouldn't even be considered in the first place when you're talking about UR BBs

[crimson glacier]

i dont really see any use for 2nd musashi

[soft raft]

Yes
No point in raising dupes, much less UR ones

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Dockyard#Awakening+

[echo adder]

when is a new UR expected to drop tho?

[eternal basalt]

September

[crimson glacier]

in like 3 months

[soft raft]

Next new one is highly likely to be September
We might have a UR rerun sometime between now and then or after, we don't know

[echo adder]

nice i guess, thanks yall

[heavy gyro]

when should i use my cubes?

[wind hazel]

technically everyday

[keen sable]

when there's an event banner? how many cubes

[heavy gyro]

well im still new like yesterday new so idrk what to do with them

[eternal basalt]

Save them for a grander event, 1 pull a day

[wind hazel]

use one on Light everyday

save enough for UR banner in the future

[worldly pewter]

do u really genuinly think that alsace is a trash boat ?

[heavy gyro]

thanks

[tranquil saffron]

Who's she tied with?

[graceful meteor]

I thought warpoot is perma worst rainbow BB

[hushed aurora]

What? No the opposite lol. I even married her. She carries my fleets lol most of the time more than 90%

[eternal basalt]

We don't talk about Warspite

[eager mulch]

best asw of all the UR BBs though

[worldly pewter]

why u said wasted then ?

[polar venture]

I've gotten to world 9. Where should I grind for gold?

[crimson glacier]

uvh is the other weak one

[eternal basalt]

9, try to get higher

[wind hazel]

highest stage 9 you can do

[hushed aurora]

Well because it still was expensive technically. But I dont regret it. Litraly started playing again because of her lol. I real like her looks.... so I would have spend the bullies anyway

[tranquil saffron]

My 2 favourite BBs 😭

UvH still carried me through w14

[crimson glacier]

well its still UR bb

[tranquil saffron]

So who's the current best?

[true kraken]

Where do I get the UR exchange?

[stark quiver]

there is no best

[hushed aurora]

My only regret for alsace is that I dont have better equipment for her 😦

[tranquil saffron]

Do opsi

[hushed aurora]

on it

Might ask this right now. After I finished chapter 2 in Opsi I only got now green markers and already done some. How do I get to chapter 4 how someone told me to reach?

[cobalt rapids]

check ur information tab and see if ure required to clear x amount of zones

[keen sable]

explore some zones

[cobalt rapids]

then red exclamation marks come back

[trim sparrow]

Sup guys is the coalition battle better or should i just be doing solo?

[eternal basalt]

Follow your information log

[trim sparrow]

Got it coalition it is

[light trail]

worth?

[eternal basalt]

Can you afford it though 12-4 access?

[hushed aurora]

Should I just put my strongest ship into 1 fleet for Opsi? Or should I still do my normal fleet 1 and 2 even if there are 1-2 ship only lvl 75

[graceful meteor]

strongest and heal if necessary

[light trail]

oh yeah what's the opinion of the event torps

[cobalt rapids]

best auto torps

[light trail]

pog

[sweet delta]

IXs?

IXSs?

[keen sable]

i didn't use SS

[sweet delta]

[keen sable]

i don't get the question then

i could have used mestal instead of fusou. any warm shipgirl to rng out the crash damage is probably enough.

[boreal lichen]

y/n?

[eager mulch]

N

[keen sable]

should slaughter first boss in event

[viscid swift]

Insert faction fleets are suboptimal disclaimer here

[true kraken]

I still dont know how the boss event work

[keen sable]

kill the bosses? one fleet, multiple fleet doesn't matter. just kill them all and let the results screen sort it out.

[boreal lichen]

i wanted to use nagatos buff, and then got kaga and akagi because of their skill, and suzutskis skill, and I took takao and atago because they were the highest levelled Sakura empire ships I had

[crimson glacier]

doesnt multi fleet get more rewards or something

or did i get gaslit

[keen sable]

perhaps I shouldn't assume reasonable gear (a lower standard than good)

[viscid swift]

It does but not to a significant degree

[crimson glacier]

i see

[keen sable]

keeping it simple for yami

[eager mulch]

it’s almost like trying to use poor ships because they get a faction buff is one of the most common reasons for why faction fleets suck

[viscid swift]

I reiterate, people really overestimate faction buffs

[boreal lichen]

I realised takao and atago weren’t the best recently so I moved them out of my main fleet into this one

I’m on chapter 7 right now

[viscid swift]

I would be seriously concerned by that point

[keen sable]

with some tiny tweaking you can be on 12

[viscid swift]

That's very far behind as far as progression goes and some serious loss of income and opportunity

[boreal lichen]

being honest I’ve been way too lazy with progressing

so now I’m planning to actually start doing them

this is my main fleet right now, I’m getting rid of cleveland soon but not exactly sure what to replace her with

or really I’m not sure about fleet composition in general

[eager mulch]

🧵

[keen sable]

portland, helena, laffey, unicorn lots of choices

[boreal lichen]

I can show you which ships in dock now if you want

[keen sable]

make a thread

[boreal lichen]

👍

fleet help

[keen sable]

wait why didn't i use the 2nd instead of hyuuga 🤦

[boreal lichen]

?

[true kraken]

But how many fleet I need? Does it need to be a complete fleet? Or just 1:1 the boss? And how many SS fleet I need

[keen sable]

you need at least 1 valid fleet

[true kraken]

What does that even mean

[viscid swift]

This event has 2 nodes for all but the first stage

[loud rover]

Is it more efficient to 1 fleet hard art or coalition with 1:1 and 2:2 fleets?

[viscid swift]

For the normal and hard maps you can either use 1 one fleet for all the fights or one for each

Of you choose the former all of your ships are healed to 100% HP free of charge before the start of each fight

[hushed cliff]

Having trouble with EX

I just don’t have enough high level ships to spread around

[viscid swift]

You just need to beat the first fight for the cogs

[hushed cliff]

Is there even worthwhile reward for it

[keen sable]

using advice worked for me

[hushed cliff]

I’ll give that a shot

[silk helm]

are the new ships any good? i kinda need iron blood BB or CV for fdg

[cobalt rapids]

scharn and gnei are free

[eager mulch]

scharn and gnei aren’t BBs or CVs

[viscid swift]

Spreadsheet says they are BBs

[cobalt rapids]

BB + CV = BC

[spice phoenix]

are these superior to the regular mag torps?

k thanks

[silk helm]

can i use the mini fredrick

[tame jungle]

Sure

[vivid aspen]

guys, how do i unlock lvl 95 advance mission?

[cobalt rapids]

reach cmder lvl 95

[vivid aspen]

oh ok thx

[hard topaz]

Hey can anyone give me some suggestions on fleet formats to use for chapter 10

[silk helm]

ya create a thread and post ur ships in it

[stark quiver]

is the only way to get bidders is from dailies

[hard topaz]

I forgot to

Well here you go this is what i usually run

[stark quiver]

also about dorm coins, how much can i get per week

[soft raft]

Alot of stuff works pre-W12 but that could be better to put it lightly
Roon Muse is a rather sus purchase due to the cost and how easily she gets benched but oh well

at that point you should have a 2nd fleet

(This thing is how you make a thread btw)

[hard topaz]

Thanks ill keep that in mind

Well a second fleets hard to use since i dont have as much ships that help and also have mostly them at level 1

[sweet delta]

The time to start using Unicorn is on your first day, but you can and should still start it now

[hard topaz]

I should i have a unicorn but never really used her

[sweet delta]

Also you really want a real BB or BC who can kill suicide boats in chapters 1 through 11. Same for chapters 14 and 15

[hard topaz]

Well im working on leveling up New Jersey but i dont think it helps she an UR so its way longer

[stark quiver]

unless you have enough bulins to mlb Nj, then u dont need her

[hard topaz]

I dont what so ever

[stark quiver]

you can stop with nj then

[hard topaz]

Its funny for.me to say when i have a level 99 Shianao

So its worst

[keen sable]

is shinano also not mlb?

[stark quiver]

well, never too late to stop

[hard topaz]

Ture

I do have New Jersey crack out so i may put her on a fleet and level them up

[eager mulch]

poor idea

[stark quiver]

non mlb ships are bad, especially URs, you rather go with a cheaper option, like fdg if u dont have her yet

[hard topaz]

Yeah i have the worst brain processing ever

[hard topaz]

Im doing her right now

I have to get the 2.4k exp

[stark quiver]

k or m , cuz its quite a big difference

[hard topaz]

M i think it say 240k but i really think its Million

[stark quiver]

right not work on getting unicorn to 120 and then retrofitting her

[hard topaz]

Im only 13%Percent in using a full backline and one fromt

[viscid swift]

Focus on progressing through the main campaign first and foremost to W12

Then turn your attention to farming XP

[keen sable]

bad

[hard topaz]

Well since im doing the main story i died down on it

[viscid swift]

What

[covert vector]

what would be a good fleet for german PR ships?

[hard topaz]

I died down on farming Exp

[light trail]

is there any good reason to farm event past first z43 reward

[viscid swift]

3 IB main fleets that need leveling and 3 vanguards that also need leveling

[covert vector]

alr

[soft raft]

3 applicable ships of the same faction and 3 other ships that wont die instantly and go grind W12

[viscid swift]

Yes, gold plates and Cog chips among others

[light trail]

am i stupid or bad if i decide to stop here

[viscid swift]

I would personally reccomend 45k as the stopping point

[covert vector]

any good stages?

[soft raft]

if you're gonna go for gold plates, at least 45k

[viscid swift]

W12

[light trail]

ok

[soft raft]

12-1 or 12-4 are the main spots

12-1 if you care about better XP per oil more
12-4 if you care about better Gold per oil more

[covert vector]

i’m not even at that point yet, so i’ll have to get there

[viscid swift]

get there first then

[signal pollen]

This is just the Helena meta showdown but is it normal my damage looks like this

I was kinda expecting New Jersey to do more damage

[soft raft]

Dunno what we can tell you when we don't even know what gear they're running

[echo adder]

Yo should i make a thread for u guys to help me pick my fleets?

And what ships to lvl up

[viscid swift]

yes

[sweet delta]

[viscid swift]

well your gears is highly questionable, gear isn't +10, and not even all of your ships are 120 with maxed skills

I'm honestley suprised they're doing as well as they are

[sweet delta]

Level 1 skills, stranger affinity, not enhanced, -50% damage dealt from level disadvantage, and more

[signal pollen]

The gear was what was recommended on the tier list site

[signal pollen]

There’s a damage mitigation for level difference?

[viscid swift]

yes

[signal pollen]

Like in general?

Or just meta exclusive

[keen sable]

y'all forgot not enhanced

[sweet delta]

Im not yall

[keen sable]

me snail and EN

[spice phoenix]

is alvitr’s kit any good or is she just another collector’s item?

[echo adder]

Help me pick my fleets

[viscid swift]

just blindly copying tier list reccs is not gonna be the best way to gear your ships

among other things, you'd want an Mk6 on NJ for this rather than an FDG gun

[signal pollen]

What the best advice on how to equip gear

[viscid swift]

read Sam's guide in #bot-spam /equip for a start

[signal pollen]

okay, thank you

[sharp socket]

if light armor use HE gun, except its either twin 410 or mk6

[sweet delta]

But they already own a twin 406skc and that's better than twin 410

[sharp socket]

from what i gathered from being here its that those 2 are the best

[sweet delta]

The easiest advice is just
if light armor boss use HE gun, basically just mk6

[quasi isle]

She is decent gold BC against light armour. But collection only if you already have UR BBs.

[spice phoenix]

is she better than other BCs?

[silk helm]

How's this for poverty? Will I survive w12

[viscid swift]

terrible because it's nearly all unenhanced

gear still very much matters even if you're leveling garbage in W12

[spice phoenix]

who’s the best BC as of right now?

[keen sable]

if you have unicorn yes

[silk helm]

No gold but if they're all +8 is it fine?

[quasi isle]

Hood level

[spice phoenix]

what exactly does “hood level” mean?

[viscid swift]

better, if you can't afford to upgrade gear steal it from another ship that's not being used

[stark quiver]

shes not hood level for sure

[spice phoenix]

ohhhhh wait i get it now

[stark quiver]

doesnt the new bc have a 80% barrage

[spice phoenix]

seriously i need for type-locked hard content

[sweet delta]

Tamaki or ruprecht

[keen sable]

80 + 70 = 150%

[viscid swift]

the best BCs are either locked behind research or event limited

[worldly pewter]

i'd say she isn't the pivot of survival in w12
u need aa mostly there to survive

[undone plover]

More importantly you probably should swap her since little ships dont give tech and are a waste of xp
But if she is your best bb to push 12 then ig that is fine

[silk helm]

I just need her to live and get xp for fdg. It's alr safe level

If they don't give tech that's a diff story

[undone plover]

She is okay for fdg grind
Tech is a different thing

[silk helm]

Oh so she counts toward the xp for fdg?

[undone plover]

Yes

[silk helm]

Ty

[stark quiver]

is the pr6 gun one of those must have things, or like a big improvement gun

[wispy pendant]

it's better than drake gun for medium and maybe for heavy also since it pierces where drake gun doesn't, but like, think of it as similar to drakes gun

[stark quiver]

cuz depending on how pr7 looks i might just get one pr6 gun

[wispy pendant]

no one is going to fault you for that

[worldly pewter]

isn't drake cb only ?

[wispy pendant]

drake is a CA dude

[worldly pewter]

[undone plover]

in january hinden gun will probably get added to protoshop
u can get your second copy then

[signal pollen]

is there a gear lab guide somewhere?

[viscid swift]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[signal pollen]

Oh. is ther a guide that tells me how to get the blueprints? I have no idea how to get the gear lab materials

[viscid swift]

doing Operation Siren

[signal pollen]

high corrosion better loot?

[viscid swift]

you could say that, but you want to clear everything each month

[signal pollen]

Ok, thank you

I'll try to finish the map

[candid meteor]

i have to finish the entire map in 2 days :(

[cloud fractal]

Is doing the Coalition or Solo fights for the event more efficient for grinding?

I don’t have a strong enough team to auto with the 3rd fleet…

[wispy pendant]

are you sure? you don't have levels?

it's pretty easy to carry lower level ships if you have good ships

[frigid linden]

What war archive mission is best to do first?

[wispy pendant]

do the event first, most war archives aren't even worth the time spent, but for new players, chessboard drops a lot of ironblood ships, which people limit break to get ironblood fleet tech to unlock FdG and Agir in research

[cloud fractal]

It’s the vanguard line. I don’t have enough to stall long enough for my main fleet to deal with the nonsense. I’ll try moving stuff around.

[hushed aurora]

I finished 4-6 in opsi. What is the next best move just autofarm everything?

[keen sable]

eliminate all funny symbols

[autumn heart]

what stages are good to grind

[keen sable]

grind what?

[autumn heart]

for ships

[soft raft]

that's not something you grind campaign for

[sharp socket]

12-1 for exp

[hushed aurora]

You mean the enemy symbole or
which?

[autumn heart]

my luck is bad so im relying on scavenging ships from campaign

[soft raft]

bro did you not get Unicorn, Helena, Portland, and Pennsylvania from Guild shop

[autumn heart]

i got unicorn and portland already, im just tryna find a stage to grind for when im stuck since im developing a second fleet for backup

[soft raft]

are you at at least W9 yet or not

[autumn heart]

what

[late flame]

campaign chapter 9+

[autumn heart]

wait er lemme check

just checked and i aint

i should clear more stages grah

[soft raft]

then you arent in a position to worry about a 2nd fleet right now

[autumn heart]

oh alright, im gonna develop it a little just for precaution

[keen sable]

you should do event...

[autumn heart]

a 3rd fleet will drain my sanity

so im halting my progress on itr

[candid meteor]

wdym

[autumn heart]

im on hard-arts

[candid meteor]

you can just use 1 fleet for hard

[autumn heart]

wait u can!??

[candid meteor]

yes just switch it to solo battle

[autumn heart]

although, i cant seem to switch it to solo....

ima try again later

[soft raft]

have you tried tapping on the word itself?

[keen sable]

change it to solo. slip in a few leveling ships if you want or even can

[autumn heart]

i didnt see a solo option when i last checked, ill check on it again later

[sharp socket]

is solo cheaper in oil than coalition

[candid meteor]

theyr ethe same cost

[sharp socket]

so its just less straining on your roster than coalition

[candid meteor]

yes

[keen sable]

less ships usable maybe but with bathtubplayground morale isn't an issue

[sharp socket]

this event was a letdown for my saved oil, guess ill dump it into 12-1

[keen sable]

raids have never used much oil

[autumn heart]

oh i found the solo option

mb i was blind then

[blissful hamlet]

does the playground bugged, is it actually working? cuz I'm sure the onsen give more morale than the current playground

[keen sable]

depends on if it's onsen 1.0 or 2.0 i guess

[blissful hamlet]

yeah it doesn't work, my ship was at 124 morale and now 128, only 4 morale gain instead of 5

[sharp socket]

the playground gives 10 morale/hr right

[blissful hamlet]

oh wait it worked now, it was 128 and now 133

very weird

[sharp socket]

if helena procs after my bb fires, but the shell has not yet hit, does the debuff from helena work

also does the debuff have a time to activate, or is it instant

[eager mulch]

works, instant

[sharp socket]

i also cant tell if an enemy has a buff/debuff, can i enable this somewhere or has it been like this since forever

[whole crypt]

there's a generic debuff visual effect which is a black/purple ball above the enemy, but if you have more than one debuff that uses this visual you won't know which it is

[eager mulch]

Purple balls over the enemy

[stark quiver]

purple ball?

[hollow gust]

purple swirling ball over the enemy

[sharp socket]

better than nothing i suppose, but lack of precision mechanics is a common theme ive seen so far anyway

[stark quiver]

i kinda just wait 20 or 16 seconds to see of helena procs

[sharp socket]

does she need to be in a certain range of the enemy to proc

[viscid swift]

no

[sharp socket]

its just bad rng then

[sage nebula]

I think Alvitr's Skill 2 works on whiffs as well. She says she needs 3 hits to get the Crit Buffs - but I think misses count as hits

[rocky fjord]

nice confirm, but expected

[rocky fjord]

well, misses from evasion and geometric misses are different

do you mean evasion stat misses

[sage nebula]

It shows her skill 2 proc after only 2 hits

[low juniper]

Ships in the dorm still get exp if they hit the awk cap right

So if a ship is lvl 100 she won't get exp in the dorm?

[rocky fjord]

if a ship is lvl capped in the dorm, she wont get exp from the dorm

[silk helm]

Is there an easy way to do this or do I have to move square by square

[sweet delta]

the enemy has to be not diving and not out of bounds to the right.So technically enemies that are far off screen like recently-spawned suicide boats don't get scanned.

[soft raft]

Move square by square until you get out of the clouds

[hushed aurora]

Can someone share good settings for this?

[silk helm]

Ty is there a way to auto clear opsi?

[whole crypt]

yes, after you clear ch4 you should get the full set of auto options, and after a reset you can buy the relevant loggers that help auto the whole mode

[silk helm]

okay i will push for ch4

[stark quiver]

if ur going to farm c5, just "repeat this zone"
and turn on redude tb guidence in settings

[whole crypt]

change fleets to use the control tower

[silk helm]

what's control tower

is that the sg radar?

[whole crypt]

if you use recon look around, there should be something that looks like a dark purple/black pointy tower

[silk helm]

okay ty

[hushed aurora]

I dont get it why cant I use auto search there are visable enemys no?

[rain vine]

autosearch cant go through enemies to get boxes

[whole crypt]

auto only paths to enemies that drop rewards and it skips anything it can't path to directly

you'll need to manually move to one of the nodes blocking to kill it

also this you'll need to move onto the teleporter, not leave then move up to get the box

[sweet delta]

reinforcement enemies with the blue lines don't drop anything and should be skipped by 99.999% of players. which is what auto search does for you

[whole crypt]

yeh but in this case it's blocking the reward crates

which happens rather often in hidden zones

[hushed aurora]

I though you want to kill all. So now I just try to get the items from the zones but how do I secure a zone then ? That was so easy before

[whole crypt]

this is a hidden zone, it's a special zone and there's nothing to do with securing

[rain vine]

its a hidden zone, you just get all of the boxes and bail

[sweet delta]

then 99.999 -> 99% of players just take the L because strategic search

[soft raft]

there are multiple enemies in hidden zones the auto system doesnt treat as actual targets as well

[whole crypt]

yeh I did that with my rally account, even skipped the cats

[hushed aurora]

And should I do these Teleports?

[whole crypt]

unless blocked for hidden zones it only actively paths to the rally nodes (the red ones you need to kill) and the humanoid one inside trap zones because it drops stuff, otherwise it ignores everything else because there's no loot

[soft raft]

That's how you leave the hidden zone so yuh when you're done with it

[whole crypt]

for hidden zones that's just an exit, you can just use the exit button if there's nothing else to get
for this specific one you screenshotted you want to get onto the teleporter, not leave, then get the box above it

[rain vine]

can also just press the exit button in the bottom right

[hushed aurora]

omg so during the auto search it went into a tp and because of that I was lost. opsi is so confusing right now for me

[candid meteor]

its ok you cant be doing worse than me

i somehow spent 9 months in the tutorial 💀

[silk helm]

same opsi is the same level of confusion as that cat mechanic

[hushed aurora]

I have so many goldcats and just throw them randomly. I just know that I take bb cat because of alsace and I took another one because it was cute

[silk helm]

yeah i can't figure out how to delete cats and i'm at max capacity so i haven't touched it in a few weeks 😂

[hushed aurora]

but currently I just hunt these chest right?

[viscid swift]

that and the strongholds and arbiters

and also finish Chapter 5 of OpSi

[candid meteor]

how do i unlock the exchange shop?

[viscid swift]

it'll unlock after your first reset of OpSi

[candid meteor]

mk

[candid meteor]

just feed the cats yoou dont want to the other cats

[frigid pine]

hey guys i have just got back into azure lane after getting my account back after years of not playing it because i didnt know i could last time i played was when only PR1 with monarch was out i have been levelling up my ships but im getting destroyed in Area 10 of the story and most enemies past 100 in Operation Siren My Vanguard seems squishy as heck can anyone tell me who i should be using as a main Fleet?

[silk helm]

Why don't I get exp

[graceful meteor]

Opsi blue fleet doesn't give exp
if it's not the case, #bug-reports

[frigid pine]

My current Team is Monarch Lvl101 Warspite lvl 115 Unicorn Retrofit lvl112 Takao Lvl111 Javelin Retrofit lvl 114 and Belfast lvl 118

[viscid swift]

you should really be using 2 fleets at this point, start a thread and post your dock

I also rather suspect gear needs a lot of work as well

[frigid pine]

mostly purple gear with a few yellow

[viscid swift]

it doesn't matter the rarity but how good it is and if it's enhanced

[frigid pine]

i have a second fleet around 95-105 but again vanguard is squishy

[viscid swift]

like I said, start a thread and post your dock

[silk helm]

hiw do i know if it's a blue fleet? i keep getting 0 xp lmao

[clever sun]

Hey in the new event, auto farm at normal mode or 1 fleet win in hard mode better for points?

[frigid pine]

where do i post a thread in sorry im new here

[viscid swift]

the latter

[frigid pine]

Thanks just post my entire Dock?

[viscid swift]

just SRs and elites

[frigid pine]

ok ty

[smoky quest]

Is illustrious in the medal shop when it's a cv available?

[viscid swift]

yes

[hushed aurora]

Does someone know? The higher in order the better? Or are they so many options

[late flame]

read and use as required for the fight

[viscid swift]

higher means generally better but as always the best gear is situationally dependent

[hushed aurora]

Wait so depending on situation I need to switch gear. So its more about the enemys then the ship itself the gear?

[slender heart]

early to mid campaign you can just follow that

but yeah opsi meta and more niche exist

[viscid swift]

yes

[hushed aurora]

But is there still like a prio list of gear I should aim for early into the game? so far I havent struggled even with purple gear but I feel like that could change fast

[slender heart]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[fresh tangle]

For divergent chessboard do you have to do a-c to unlock D?

[rain vine]

just do c

[late flame]

do C map then click next to go D map

[keen sable]

you can't really pick what comes out of boxes although you can somewhat pick which boxes to buy

[clever sun]

You mean later? 1 fleet win still get full reward righr?

[viscid swift]

no I mean the latter

[clever sun]

Thanks

[viscid swift]

you will get less in solo compared to coalition but it's still a far cry better than normal

[clever sun]

Thanks

[tiny gulch]

what's the diff between solo challenge and coalition battle?

nvm i see this was just answered

[robust jackal]

Do the little academy event stages give affinity for battles?

Thanks

[cloud fractal]

I did not realize gold units could have such low build timers. Only 40m for z47?

According to the data mine anyway

[south sequoia]

Build timers vary from hull types to hull types

[cloud fractal]

Oh. It’s a hull thing and less a rarity thing?

[south sequoia]

Yep

[cloud fractal]

Does rarity play a factor at all?

[south sequoia]

Shimakaze, a UR DD has a 30 minute build timer

We don't really know the factors the devs use for a ships build timer other than their hull type

[little tree]

I'm assuming the last part of thos tech is huge for sandy?

[south sequoia]

[stark quiver]

its a big part of why shes good

[cloud fractal]

Honestly, that and the augment were some of the biggest buffs to her

[little tree]

Well I got the augment it will be a bit till I get the golden cruisers

I already burned thru most if my oil to get retro

[cloud fractal]

That reload that’s not done either is giving me palpitations 😂

[little tree]

I farmed 6 golden cruisers today but lost 8k oil doing so hahah it will have to wait and 60k coin

[whole crypt]

I'm not sure what you were doing but you can't farm retrofit prints

[little tree]

3 stars on hard

[whole crypt]

that's just collecting the stuff that's due

[little tree]

I have like none of them 3 star but had to farm the base maps for 3 starts first

[viscid swift]

just as an example not really no

[whole crypt]

8k oil sounds like a lot did you run those maps on full fleets

[little tree]

Yea

[whole crypt]

you don't need to use full fleets as long as you can make the stat req and kill the enemies

[little tree]

I forgor about that ngl

[whole crypt]

rip oil

[south sequoia]

I dont know if my math is correct, but to get the maximum amount of dorm food capacity it costs 7k gems?

max is 120k capacity

[whole crypt]

base is 40k?

[south sequoia]

yeah base is 40k

its 100 gems for up to 60k but onwards its 200 gems

each upgrade is 2k cap added

[whole crypt]

I actually stopped at 60k on my main

[south sequoia]

I'm not exactly sure if its 200 gems all the way until 120k because the wiki says 200 up to 90k

so im really confused

[whole crypt]

unless they expanded cap again CN says max is 102 not 120k

[south sequoia]

ohh

[rocky ice]

i know kazagumo but is there any other vanguards i should put in my carrier boss fleet?

[forest palm]

so 5.2k to max...

[fresh tangle]

I only just realised my Helena retrofit didn’t have her last skill 😂

[soft raft]

A tank and Sirirus

[whole crypt]

Sirius, and a tank

max comfort as of Aug last year was 511 according to CN, did it get higher since?

[atomic rock]

is buying specialized core using medals worth?

[rocky ice]

guam, agir, azuma or anchorage? i have only these four leveled

[whole crypt]

if you're still catching up with UR bulins definitely

[whole crypt]

if all MLB'd and maxed then probably Guam

Agir would work too

[soft raft]

Yes
relatively cheap to get and the 1k you get doesnt count for the monthly 5k cap

[atomic rock]

thank guys

[candid meteor]

should i spent my general prints on harbin or another pr

[jaunty vault]

harbin is a good choice

[whole stump]

should i pull on any of these as a brand new player?

[hollow gust]

no

[blissful hamlet]

What is this

[soft raft]

Depends on what the highest season those BPs can go up to is

If it's PR5, sure
If it ain't, no

[jaunty vault]

dorm food space

cost for increasing the cap

[blissful hamlet]

You guys spent gems for that

[soft raft]

Those ships are pretty whatever outside of tech

Would rather stick to 1 light pull per day since we have a new UR in Sept and a high chance of a UR rerun sometime before that

[jaunty vault]

im f2p

[late flame]

yeah dorm is capped at 102k

[candid meteor]

its pr 6

[frank pulsar]

wdym? pr6 is already out

[soft raft]

Then not recommend
General rule of thumb is to use those blanks only on the ships that belong to the highest season it goes up to

[candid meteor]

i meant to reply to another message

[frank pulsar]

oh mb

[candid meteor]

i finished pr ships of pr 6 already, is there any other ships worth getting prints as soon as poosible for below it

[whole crypt]

well unless you have a lot of excess for each ship as well their FS is probably going to be coming soon-ish too

[candid meteor]

hm, guess ill just farm harbin when doing pr5

[vagrant panther]

Is there a clear choice between MLBing Hindenburg or Kersarge? Or it depends as usual.

[jaunty vault]

latter

[soft raft]

Technically you're gonna D30 them both anyways since that's the bare minimum for them to be usable

Haku > Both of them in terms of Prio since Haku Sees alot more use than both of them overall

[vagrant panther]

Or none of the above and MLB one of the other URs

[viscid swift]

have you forgotten DRs don't use bullins

[vagrant panther]

Ah true. Let me check if I have enough to convert

[vagrant panther]

Nah just realized I have BP for most seasons except season 5

I think I have enough Bullins for Laffey2 or Mog too

[viscid swift]

how many Tenrais do you have right now?

[vagrant panther]

Zero lol

Haven't started looking at them yet

[viscid swift]

so you haven't even bought the BPs from the prototyoe shop yet

[vagrant panther]

Nope

[viscid swift]

how many Tenrai BPs do you have right now?

[vagrant panther]

Zero I think.

[viscid swift]

why...

[vagrant panther]

Am I looking at the right spot? Don't see any partials under torp bombers

[viscid swift]

it's a dive bomber

not a torpedo bomber

[vagrant panther]

Oops. 26/50

So buy out BP to get first tenrai

[viscid swift]

how close are Agir, Haku, Kearsarge, and Hindenburg to Dev 30

[whole crypt]

if you haven't bought any of them at all that's 1 whole copy and you'll want to research for another 24 prints

ideally you're looking at finishing 2 copies of Tenrai before PR4 gets "retired"

[vagrant panther]

Season 6 I have 224 to use.
Hinden needs 116 prints
Kersarge 157.

Season 4: <10
Haku: 109
Agir: 243

[viscid swift]

use BPs to dev 30 either Kearsarge or Hindenburg and go back to PR4 research focus asap

[vagrant panther]

Got it. Still focus on face research?

[viscid swift]

PR4 should have been finished a long time ago but now's better than never

[vagrant panther]

Yeah so that's why I was asking which I should pump into. Didn't know season 4 was that dire

[viscid swift]

it is the season we reccomend to start off with and finish in it's entirety before even moving on

[eager mulch]

best ships and gear of pr

[viscid swift]

for the reason of it's overall strong line up and important gear

[eager mulch]

arguably

[viscid swift]

either way this is gonna set back any start on PR7 for you

[vagrant panther]

Haha I think someone recommended me to start with 5 for ply so I went along with that

[whole crypt]

starting a PR7 a little is fine anyway as long as you keep pace

[vagrant panther]

So my season 5 is a bit overcooked

[viscid swift]

even if you started with 5, 4 should have been finished before starting on 6

[whole crypt]

I suspect you might come back to PR5 for more q152s anyway, depending on what the rainbow gear from PR7 will be

[vagrant panther]

So research focus back on season 4 till I have haku up, and more tenrais?

[viscid swift]

until you have 2 Tenrais which will probably come after Agir and Haku are Dev 30

[whole crypt]

whenever you finish 2 tenrais including bought prints, hop from 4

even if you don't finish them coining shouldn't be that far by then

[vagrant panther]

Ok. I still shouldn't touch rigging analysis etc and focus on face research right

[viscid swift]

it would depend on 7's line up but I'd be tempted to say stick with Haku until she's FS5

[viscid swift]

opposite if anything

[silent marsh]

Are nation fleets actually worse than international fleets?

[eager mulch]

Yes

[silent marsh]

Damn

[viscid swift]

rigging for Tenrais should have priority

[eager mulch]

A “strong” faction buff on a weak ship never outweighs just using a better ship from a different faction

[viscid swift]

I reiterate, people really overestimate faction buffs

[eager mulch]

I don’t

[whole crypt]

if you do rigging first you'd have an excuse to leave PR4 after the tenrais are done, but if you do face first and end up finishing ships before tenrai you're kind of going to be miserable chasing a few tenrai prints while generating wastage on PR4 ship prints

[vagrant panther]

True that. Alright thanks

[silent marsh]

What would be some good international fleet combos of these girls?

[whole crypt]

the thing is gear prints are more 🎲 because there's no way to "focus" like face researches

[viscid swift]

depends on the content

[silent marsh]

Trying to get the best fleets to grind stuff from op siren

[whole crypt]

you don't need the best fleets for OS

[silent marsh]

I'm also about to get into world 14

[viscid swift]

you're gonna need more than that then

start a thread and post all of your URs and SRs

[silent marsh]

Thunder's UR's and SR's

[vagrant panther]

You do have unicorn(ret) right?

[silent marsh]

Yeah

[whole crypt]

thread is up let cheeky sort it out with him in thread

[elfin hollow]

any good ship for Agir pr grind for main?

[wind hazel]

weser has RLD tech

[whole crypt]

only CVL

[wind hazel]

the rest probably pick your poison

[whole crypt]

KMS CVL RLD is 🚮

[wind hazel]

oh didnt realize it's cvl

[silk sphinx]

bismarck, tirptiz have +2 BB FP, and thuringen 1 BB FP. if that was the question

and yeah, elbe, jade and weser only have cvl rld...

[wind hazel]

i guess in the end it's pick your poison

[silk sphinx]

you only need 1.2 mil backline exp for agir though

considering how far each of these ships is from 120, and that this person is likely not that far into the game, talking about fleet tech is rather suspect

[wind hazel]

it's just something to do in the meantime

like, rather raise useful ships in the end, than using shitty ships that has no value

2 birds 1 stone situation

[silk sphinx]

but yeah, ultimately doesn't matter all that much, though there's stuff like gold ships being more expensive to raise, as well as some giving more tech points than others

[elfin hollow]

but nvm, even if I got her I still dont have her guns

[silk sphinx]

? agir gun?

[elfin hollow]

my Brest is kinda crying right now bcuz I don't have any good guns for her

[viscid swift]

I would rather suspect Brest isn't even in a usable state then

[elfin hollow]

I farm her bcuz waifu

[silk sphinx]

ah i see. well that's kind of what protocore is for, and regardless researching series 4 for the DR ships at least is a good approach too

pr4 has a lot of very good gear. in general you can try to obtain protocore to kind of just "buy" the gear, and/or just research series 4 stuff

[viscid swift]

that's fine, but even if you had a better gun for her her performance right now would still be shit

a polished turd is still a turd

[silk sphinx]

it's possible they skipped earlier series to complete series 5 first

although i grant that it's unlikely

[elfin hollow]

I'm lvl 88 now and I don't know if I'm playing this game right

pr 5 is the jump

[silk sphinx]

honestly there's so many systems in the game that confusion is totally understandable

[viscid swift]

are you even in W12 yet?

[elfin hollow]

no

unfinished 11-1

[viscid swift]

well get there first and then worry about farming XP for PR ships

[silk sphinx]

what cheeky is trying to say though, is that getting ships is like maybe a fifth of actually being able to use her; a ship needs gear and limit breaks and enhancements and other stuff to actually be able to do anything

ships from the shipyard like brest are basically ones that take very long to bring to a useable state

so it's really inefficient to just zoom towards high series shipyard ships

basically, honestly most people wouldn't really be able to use brest even if you gave her to them straight at the beginning

[elfin hollow]

yeah, my bad of me

[silk sphinx]

i mean, it's something that takes time to slowly learn, it's a lot of info

[viscid swift]

try to learn to walk before you run is the gist of it

[elfin hollow]

I dev 22 brest bcuz of that catch up

[viscid swift]

right now you're really not in a position where PR should be an active focus

[urban spruce]

Which three of these are the best, & are any of the three blue ones retrofits worth it?

[viscid swift]

and give that a read to brush up on how to do PR efficiently https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[viscid swift]

they're all just tech really

[silk sphinx]

all of the blue ones have bb rld so yeah, high priority tech

[urban spruce]

Kay, thanks

[silk sphinx]

but uhm tech probably isn't your priority at this stage of the game. are they easy to acquire? fusou and yamashiro can be farmed in early worlds

[viscid swift]

they drop from a few event stages as well

[silk sphinx]

i think fusou and yama were also pretty classic examples of retrofits that ultimately kind of made the ship worse

[urban spruce]

Oh

[silk sphinx]

people just don't care because you're not using them because of their performance in the first place though

[urban spruce]

Any of these good?

[forest palm]

for what content?

[viscid swift]

not particularly, again just tech

[jaunty vault]

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[weak canopy]

/ban 679246837210939413

[odd root]

fubuki0261#0 got banned.

[eager mulch]

finally some real content

[forest palm]

#off-topic as well

[jaunty vault]

[tame jungle]

E-boobs

[urban spruce]

Late stage grinding or event hard stages

[viscid swift]

you can use just about anything farming events and W12

[urban spruce]

Kay

[uneven cave]

Event hard is still pretty easy, all of them can work

[urban spruce]

Also SP I guess

[uneven cave]

SP is also not that hard

[urban spruce]

Kay

[jaunty vault]

its hard for those ships with those levels

[forest palm]

[crisp estuary]

[eager mulch]

[grizzled sundial]

Roon U ( or gamma or whatever ) which you can get from shop will have the same enhance / limit break mechanic like normal ship or similar to the PR version ?

[inner delta]

normal ship

[grizzled sundial]

Ngl , reading the tutorial i feel PR ship seems....expensive to upgrade :/

[inner delta]

not expensive, just takes time

[restive escarp]

Need help related updating fleet

[viscid swift]

Start a thread and post your dock

[cobalt kettle]

is this event worth farming?

[viscid swift]

Yes, an event is never not worth farming to some degree

[cobalt kettle]

just didnt know wat u can get in this event, dont see a shop

[viscid swift]

There's milestone rewards still

[cobalt kettle]

[keen sable]

an onsen playground

[wary timber]

Do enforcers just suddenly change their buffs out of nowhere ? One of the enforcers I fought changed one of their buffs late into a fight and started healing at an insane rate

[cobalt kettle]

idk wat do u even get, like any certain gear

[viscid swift]

No

[cobalt kettle]

i usually just clear to get the ship

[viscid swift]

You just didn't read all of their skills

[viscid swift]

Check the milestone rewards for yourself and see

[cobalt kettle]

i just see a torpedo at 8k, nothing else seems noticable?

[eager mulch]

gold plates are always in high demand

[cobalt kettle]

theres only 20 the entire event

[viscid swift]

20 gold plates is still 20 gold plates

[cobalt kettle]

is there any farmable gear

[steady beacon]

"Only" 20

[viscid swift]

None worth farming for

[cobalt kettle]

but isnt 45k points a lot compared to just using oil on 12-4 or something

[steady beacon]

You can farm G7e in Hard
But the drop rate is atrocious
To say nothing of why you are even farming that in the first place

[viscid swift]

Not really, it's only like 8k or something

[eager mulch]

12-4 doesn’t drop gold plates

[cobalt kettle]

dont u guys have enough gold plates

[viscid swift]

I never have enough gold plates

[steady beacon]

By the time the game goes EoS I still won't have enough gold plates

[wary timber]

My main fleet destroyed that enforcer but ... does it even happen? It's the first time I saw an Enforcer just suddenly change their buffs to heal

[eager mulch]

You didn’t read their skills properly

[shell willow]

the heal skill only kicks in at 30% hp iirc

[cobalt kettle]

idk but isnt 45k points a sht ton of oil

[viscid swift]

I reiterate l, you didn't read the skills fully

[eager mulch]

l

[viscid swift]

As I said it's only like 8k

[wary timber]

It was a firepower buff initially

[zinc turret]

its cost roughly arround 8-9k oil to get 45k point if u farm hard

[cobalt kettle]

oh i thought u meant 8k for torp

[uneven cave]

They have 3 buffs

[keen sable]

you can't even get 500 chips for 75 oil on 12-4. you'd probably need something like 75000 oil.

[cobalt kettle]

isnt coins n xp good

[eager mulch]

good but you can get it permanently

gold plates are far more limited

[steady beacon]

Honestly, with the playground
Just alternate if you also need coins

That's what I'm doing
One 5x run of event, then 3x run of 12-4
Rinse and repeat