phasmo-chat

[lime holly]

i like the graphics of the new bleasdale better but besides that the fps drop and darkness of that ma just makes it so painful to play

[lunar sentinel]

using assets to fill in development gaps and not outright replace it is the right way. if they can make their own assets, do. if they can't... don't

[keen verge]

It’d be nice to see what theu come up with on there own

[lunar sentinel]

free assets exist for a reason, most people abuse them to skip development time

[rich burrow]

modelling a car to that standard would take days, we can just use one thats not overly important and spend the time on cool things, like a jukebox 🙂

[odd vale]

Hey, CJ

[keen verge]

Cjjjj

[magic tiger]

A Wild Cj Appears

[opaque echo]

Hey Corey <3 lookin forward to dying in Tanglewood

[fading jackal]

even then, the layout doesn't need to change. that's the biggest complaints. make your own assets. just don't destroy the layout. people wouldn't be this upset if the layout stayed the same.

[keen verge]

When’s the release cj 😑😑

[rich burrow]

1 week!

[lunar sentinel]

game development includes level design as well

[keen verge]

LETS GOOOO

[wild karma]

Game dev tip #1, prioritize jukeboxes

[lunar sentinel]

or broken eggs

[lime holly]

Based on the pictures i dont think the layout really changed though ig we’ll find out for sure in a week

[strange flint]

Bring a flashlight?

[keen verge]

Any new pets added in??

[modern ermine]

Thank you guys so much for this birthday present. I cannot wait to play the rework🤍🙂‍↕️

[lunar sentinel]

i have a slight feeling when people say layout changes they mean the looping spot change specifically

[fading jackal]

they already did the level design part. that's my point. CJ himself said he changed up high school so it wouldn't be identical to the stock asset. so the layout is different already.

[lime holly]

flashlights are off

[old birch]

i hope potato stays

[rich burrow]

of course ❤️

[old birch]

thank god

he saves me from mean ghostie

[keen verge]

We need a photo of u hanging on the wall 👌👌

[opaque echo]

Box of cereal that reads "Corey-Oh's"

[strange flint]

Well then of course it's gonna be dark, everythings off

[lunar sentinel]

okay but we're not talking about high school, we're talking about the level design in tanglewood. it's a part of game development and them lumping the changes in with the art style change is probably just to streamline the update development wise. it's fine, people are making a bigger deal out of it than they need to

[smoky thorn]

kitchen island loop spot........ my beloved

[woven breach]

Wow, so they completely disrespected our feedback on looping.

[odd vale]

An action figure of a knight on display with a plaque with the name Daniel.

[fading jackal]

kitchen island looping spot is gone.

[keen verge]

He would probably do that though

[old birch]

The devs literally said there's still looping spots no?

[wild karma]

Its crazy that this is just generating controversy now. We’ve known about this for like forever now

[odd vale]

Looping spot will be added somewhere else in the map

[keen verge]

Yeah there’s a few I think

[raw meadow]

Yea

[keen verge]

They said looping spots plural

[lime holly]

the brightness of other maps in comparison is night and day. Even nells diner is brighter

[strange flint]

Get better eyes?

[opaque echo]

I don't like my horror games bright n cheery -squints in the darkness- hrm.

[keen verge]

Waiting for insym to randomly join the chat

[raw meadow]

Possibly plural, I think?

[fading jackal]

tanglewood has already been changed. the door to the laundry room used to be in the kitchen. it was moved to where it is now years ago.

same goes for ridgeview. people call it fridgeview now, but what is now the kitchen used to be the livingroom, what is now the livingroom used to be the dining room, and what is now the dining room used to be the kitchen, complete with a looping island.

[old birch]

Wait for the content creators to make a 10 minute video off this one announcement

[odd vale]

We shall seeee

[lunar sentinel]

thank you for the history. doesn't change what i'm saying in the slightest

[strange flint]

Exactly. If I can see then somethings wrong

[wild karma]

It depends on the game honestly. If its a game where I’m playing to be scared I’ll have the recommended brightness. If I’m playing the game with a focus on trying to win brightness goes all the way up

[old birch]

When will we get a ghost that is faster the more people there are 🤔🤔

[opaque echo]

if i can't see ghost, ghost can't see me, right?

[odd vale]

Me staring at the wall in scary games.

[fading jackal]

except it does? the changes have already taken place. there's no need for further changes after years of them staying the same. update the assets, keep the layout that we've had, or just let us keep the old map WITH the new one.

[uncut violet]

My game randomly got bugged and I was frozen still...

[strange flint]

You're right just close your eyes during the hunt

[old birch]

That's what I thought till a fast ghost became slow and inched it's way closer to me....

[keen verge]

The ghost hanging over ur shoulder

[lime holly]

exactly

[opaque echo]

suddenly, Tom appears

[random veldt]

😿

[stuck ledge]

We did a team playtest the other day and its sooo much fun! Very excited for you folks to play it!

[vast crown]

damn tonglebongle rework a week away can't wait to sample the looping spots

[lunar sentinel]

game development doesn't just stop one day and everything's perfect. they wouldn't have changed the map initially if that were the case. games grow and evolve and these layout changes are the natural conclusion to years of what is essentially playtesting. if they've done it before they're allowed to do it again. you aren't making much sense

[keen verge]

U could like release it early to the people here hint hint 🙂‍↕️

[raw meadow]

Yepp we will

[wild karma]

Can you believe it? Tanglewood rework, just a week away! I am so excited about this information

[stuck ledge]

oh sorry got to go bye#

[modern ermine]

Lmfao

[keen verge]

Wait nooo 😓😓😓

[chilly fjord]

idk how i feel about the tanglewood rework, ig i'll have to see in a week

[opaque echo]

wow you scared off the CM, rude

[fading jackal]

of course they're allowed to. but there's also no reason to NOT let us also keep them as they currently are while also letting us have something new.

it's one of those things where sure, they CAN, but should they?

[keen verge]

Mb guys 🙏

[lunar sentinel]

yes. they should. it's their game.

[modern ermine]

You done did it

[rare lintel]

Please, for the love of everything, don't let Tanglewood have the same terrible clompy-feet footfall sounds. 😱

[keen verge]

Tried to get early access for us 😓

[wild karma]

How could you do this

[buoyant oak]

nearly had em

[upbeat coyote]

Ur efforts are appreciated

[raw meadow]

Yea I don't wanna form a strong opinion before I actually play it

[keen verge]

If we all seem down over not having it maybe he’ll give it to us!!

[fading jackal]

no, they shouldn't. people love tanglewood as it is. why get rid of something good? and don't say "so we can have something new" because i've already said they can let us have both.

[lunar sentinel]

the maps right now are the game development equivalent of scaffolding. they work, but they aren't made out of the final materials, might not hold up well in some regards and exist just to let you play on something. game development includes art, level design, audio design, narrative design ect.

[lunar sentinel]

because that's how you bloat your game up very, very quickly

[fading jackal]

so what? people put up with it for CoD.

[upbeat coyote]

Or the opposite

Act like we don't care and they give it to us early to make hype

"Ah shucks guys, I don't care about this new map at all."

(Is it working?)

[lunar sentinel]

i don't like new tanglewood because it's new, i like it because that's what kinetic games's vision for tanglewood actually is. i'm watching the culimation of the hard work of people and not a cheap asset flip that's there just to let the game work

[keen verge]

Then they’ll make us wait longerrr

[vast crown]

they cost money/licensing to use otherwise i bet they'd keep "legacy" variants of the maps in the game

[modern ermine]

CoD is complete different type of steaming dogshit

[lunar sentinel]

good thing this isn't call of duty

[stuck ledge]

(it isn't, unfortunately)

[keen verge]

Is it possible to get a super duper secret no body knows about title of my name 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[vast crown]

I would still love to have legacy prestige badges back i loved the dark mode theme

[fading jackal]

at least call of duty sometimes brings back beloved maps.

[lunar sentinel]

because they made those assets in house originally lol

[fading jackal]

and i say that as a call of duty hater.

[stuck ledge]

yeah actually so there's a

[lunar sentinel]

cod has every right to return legacy maps because they actually made the stuff in them

[modern ermine]

They have been doing that for the past 5 years and literally nobody likes that

[keen verge]

GOSH DANGIT

[opaque echo]

oh Tahm your 5:30 meeting starts soon

[fading jackal]

and i'm saying they can keep the old layout but with the new assets.

[lime holly]

REAL

[jaunty zodiac]

Will the new Tanglewood have chips?!

[stuck ledge]

Ah thanks for the reminder!

[vast crown]

chippies

[lunar sentinel]

game development includes level design too smh i don't think you're quite getting this

[fading jackal]

phas playes would love it. at least some of us would.

[wild karma]

Hey man, save your breath. Its clear they’re not here to debate but just make a point.

[keen verge]

Can I get a high five tahm

[buoyant oak]

For real, how many times now have they brought back nuketown

[fading jackal]

you're going in circles. the level design is already done.

[vast crown]

literally EVERY time

[lunar sentinel]

level design is never "done"

[lunar sentinel]

fair enough

[wild karma]

No way he actually did it

[keen verge]

Everybody high-five!!!

[modern ermine]

In different Versions aswell

[fading jackal]

then don't get rid of the old, give us the new too. and most won't care about bloat.

[acoustic rapids]

so, it seems there is likely a new room in the tanglewood area. calling it now, like with Bleasedale, we can access the garden, and it has a small model railway in an outside converted shed/mini house. like those people who have a small house outside for their DnD games or whatnot.

[buoyant oak]

At least nuketown zombies was a fun little gimmick, now it's just gotten old for every release to have it

[lunar sentinel]

hope the ghost can interact with the train set

[keen verge]

Tahm be lurking watching over everyone right now

[lunar sentinel]

new interactions are what im excited for the most

[wild karma]

There’s a train set??

[opaque echo]

-Thomas the Tank Engine song intensifies-

[acoustic rapids]

if it can't start the train going round the track, I will riot.

[strange flint]

They should add a goose to a random map and say nothing.

[lunar sentinel]

yeah isn't that what the thumbnail is on the development thing?

[wild karma]

Lowk I didn’t look lmao

[vast crown]

based on the preview vid, that living room table looks HELLA loopable now, not too close to couch

[keen verge]

Tahm is Dk awake

[acoustic rapids]

check the preview image of the update, and note the wording."We’ve implemented a whole host of new audio features both to existing parts of Tanglewood and new one."

[worldly ivy]

i was really hoping the character customisation would come with the tanglewood release date 🙁

[lunar sentinel]

Soon™

[wild karma]

Players will figure out how to loop everything in the house within a day, I’m calling it

[lunar sentinel]

were the screenies taken pre or post unity 6 upgrade?

[opaque echo]

Dryer Jingle

[strange flint]

Most important feature

[modern mauve]

You're a Dryer Jingle

[gritty dove]

I mean my washing machine has a jingle

[keen verge]

Zoomies

[opaque echo]

your face is a dryer jingle.

[modern mauve]

Uncalled for mod abuse

[keen verge]

OHHHHHH

Nuh he make the rules there

[wild karma]

Unrecoverable damage after that one

[modern mauve]

[opaque echo]

one of the rules is that i should be demoted.

[keen verge]

I’ll take ur spot 🖐️

[opaque echo]

also for horror games, sound is one of the most important aspects. Them doing the audio work is VERY appreciated [=

[lunar sentinel]

player character overhaul is now in internal testing. so is unity 6 upgrade

[acoustic rapids]

I do not understand the concept of a dryer jingle. my dryer has just beeped 3 times, and done nothing else, when done.

AND IT LIES. the time on the front is always some UNGODLY time that does not translate to earthly hours and minutes. you see it says 2 hours, come back in 2 hours, it has 1 hour 10 left. it's done within 20 minutes from that time.

[odd vale]

Please no

[vast crown]

make myling slightly quieter

[worldly ivy]

what does internal testing mean? 🙂

[lunar sentinel]

give the deogen mortal kombat style finishers on humans

[upbeat coyote]

Agree

[fading jackal]

at least tell me the "rework" of tanglewood won't turn it into a dark world from deltarune.

[modern mauve]

We don't stop a man when he's cooking

[vast crown]

the team is playtesting thoroughly

[wild karma]

Absolutely, Outlast 2 is one of the scariest games I’ve played and 90% of that was the soundwork

[lunar sentinel]

check the phasmo trello board. documents what's being developed rn and to what capacity

[odd vale]

I’ll take the spot lmao

[opaque echo]

dev team playtest

[worldly ivy]

great thanks everyone!

[modern mauve]

I'll vote for that :3

[lunar sentinel]

internal testing most likely means internal dev qna sessions or playtests. the "once over" before prepped for release

[keen verge]

Nuh me I’ve been on his side all along 👌👌

[raw meadow]

Yeah hopefully, Tanglewood doesn't become incredibly dark

[vast crown]

validate that all acceptance criteria are met on a per-feature basis and identify defects before pushing to production

[odd vale]

[acoustic rapids]

I honestly do think the decision on the kitchen island is still wrong. If they changed the dinner table, or living room, I'd not care. but that kitchen island was iconic in its layout. and useful

[odd vale]

I would never

[vast crown]

that's probably exactly what's going to happen tbh

[keen verge]

Ur a trial I got nothing let me have this win 🙏🙏😭

[vast crown]

overrated imo it's just a counter

[gritty dove]

Mezz is a full blown mod actually

[odd vale]

I’m a trial?!

[gritty dove]

We haven´t been trial mods in a WHILE

[keen verge]

Is she full mod now?

[fading jackal]

can i ask someone who's played the rework if it's as dark (visibility) as grafton?

[lunar sentinel]

chiaroscuro is great for horror games

[gritty dove]

Kris is our current trial mod

[odd vale]

I’ve been full mod for a year

[vast crown]

at least a year

[modern mauve]

#Shork4trial

[gritty dove]

Shork for white name

[keen verge]

OHHH WAIT IT WAS KRIS

[acoustic rapids]

one that was perfect for teaching looping and to be in a somewhat central, somewhat concealed location.

[keen verge]

Even then mezzo ur mod let me win this 🙏😭

[vast crown]

i just like puzzle game

[vast crown]

dining table next to it is perfect too

[opaque echo]

Clair Obscur?

[fading jackal]

can't wait for the point nope rework so it's actually not ass.

[south violet]

So dryer jingle now eh? Hmmm ..

[modern mauve]

A great game too

[acoustic rapids]

not nearly as much. a lot of places to catch on the chairs.

[vast crown]

but yeah being in a location surrounded by walls is nice

[opaque echo]

clair obscur is chiaroscuro, different language :D

[vast crown]

the chairs don't have collision, they might now though lol

[keen verge]

Jace ur banana looking fine 🙂‍↕️ maybe u should uhh share ur spot 🤔

😓😓😓

[opaque echo]

so anyway tanglewood

[keen verge]

Changing the subject I see

[vast crown]

TONGLEBONGLE

[gritty dove]

Grandma´s house!

[fading jackal]

please tell me it's not dark like the farmhouse reworks.

[acoustic rapids]

last I checked they did. perhaps I recall it wrong, I've not tried to loop often, and I tend to use the garage/kitchen for loops/hiding

[raw meadow]

Yeah for example, Grafton looks great, but it's so much more difficult to actually play on cause it's super dark

[opaque echo]

if i tanglycould i tangly would

[modern mauve]

Looking forward to Tanglewood (and I called it releasing soon!)

[opaque echo]

NDA. can't tell you more than you saw in the blog post <3

[keen verge]

Aka he’s hiding something 🤔

[lunar sentinel]

NDA clearly starts for Not Dark (at) All

[lime holly]

dw we find out in like 6 days in the cc livestreams

[modern mauve]

I use these clever little things if it's dark

[vast crown]

it's my primary looping spot on tanglewood and ridgeview, it's #1 structure to loop in the game for sure. sunny meadows has a nice one, a gurney just out in the open in left wing, very good looping spot, point hope coffee table is similar too

[fading jackal]

that's concerning then. at first i thought i might not hate the rework. now i'm beginning to wonder.

[modern mauve]

Firelights! Torches! Glowsticks! Dots

[opaque echo]

I'd say give it to actually trying it to hate or like it.

[acoustic rapids]

I will say I get a visceral feeling of dusty nostalgia looking at that 3D old lady carpet. something about seeing it triggers a cloying, musky feeling in my throat. like a carpet not being hoovered for a whole year. if that makes sense.

[fading jackal]

i don't really watch CC streams much anymore.

[opaque echo]

once you make up your mind about something it's really hard to change. best to get your hands on the real thing to make it up

[lunar sentinel]

i get you. it's almost like the carpet would swallow you whole if you let it. generations of dead skin cells and dog hair

[lime holly]

dw youll definitely hear about it in this chat when that time comes lol

[fading jackal]

but if people try it and still hate it, will kinetic do anything to make people like it? i have 0 faith they will.

[keen verge]

Guys I streamed phas for 7 hours a month ago and got 4 viewers let’s go content creator progress 💪

[fading jackal]

chances are you already streamed it more than some CCs

[lunar sentinel]

4 doesn't sound like a lot but 4 beating hearts is a rythm

[keen verge]

It’s progress Thwts all that matters guys

[lunar sentinel]

precisely

[keen verge]

4 is a big number

[acoustic rapids]

glad to know I'm not alone in the feeling. yeah. the aesthetic is certainly on point. just looking at the picture triggers some sense that you know that room smells like its been untouched since the 1980's. same smells, same everything

[raw meadow]

Exactly

[lunar sentinel]

smellovision phasmophobia is going to hit me like a truck

[keen verge]

Hey tahm does it matter how much viewers u get to become a content creator partner?

[modern mauve]

#partner-applications

Has all of the stuff you need in that whole section

[cobalt matrix]

damn mezzo whens your trial up?

[opaque echo]

"Ideally, an average 150 concurrent viewers on your stream twice per week (minimum 100), or 1 video upload per week averaging 5k views (minimum 2.5k) or more of Phasmophobia related content over the last 6 months."

[keen verge]

Holy I got a long way

I’m pretty sure 2 viewers were bots 😭

[opaque echo]

you can get there. a lot of viewer growth is exponential the more you do it [=

[keen verge]

I used to stream a lot and got a max 10 viewers because I’m in Australia there’s less people on watching and mainly at work

[magic tiger]

pretty sure theres a prerequisite. Cant just give it out to anyone. if there wasnt one then anyone can just claim theyre a CC and get the partnership

[cobalt matrix]

damn what time you stream bro

[modern mauve]

Hey Vand, yo boi called TW rework coming soon

[keen verge]

I normally start around midday and finish around 3am

[lime holly]

Are u allowed to say if CC’s get early access for this release

[wise oyster]

yep

[modern mauve]

(also hi)

[cobalt matrix]

no they'll throw fruit at him

[mellow coyote]

anyone know how to play phas on macbook

[glacial moth]

oh hell naw my favorite map is being changed just why its perfect as it is

[modern mauve]

I'm beyond excited to play new TW, the room I'm looking forward to the most, is the basement

[lime holly]

Not fruit 😭

[opaque echo]

That sounds more like a thing that the CC's would announce to you as it draws closer if it happens <3

[jovial seal]

our toughts were right, they are comming separately

[cobalt matrix]

mainly tomatoes

[keen verge]

Steam

[mellow coyote]

does it run good

[keen verge]

You’d have to try depends on ur Mac

If there’s a trial u can try that

Knowing mac it won’t be as good I don’t think

[mellow coyote]

someone said its not available on macos so he said use geforce

[keen verge]

All u need is steam I’m pretty sure

[mellow coyote]

okays

[keen verge]

It would probably run really slow

[mellow coyote]

ps5 starting pmo

[opaque echo]

it's not on mac os, so streaming geforce is your best bet, or get it on a console

[mellow coyote]

i have it on ps5 but its low k ass

[keen verge]

Wouldn’t u be able to get it on steam tho?

Because I have steam downloaded

[mellow coyote]

geforce "uses games from steam to play on geforce"

dunno

[keen verge]

Anyway I got some phas to grind I’ll be in later!

[worn minnow]

how bro

[odd vale]

[gritty dove]

We Preesh Mezzo here

[odd vale]

I’m just a trial

[cobalt matrix]

Sorry Mezzo

[odd vale]

[uncut violet]

I am in a investigation with a random, if he crosses off evidence I also recieve it in my journal?

[wise oyster]

no

[simple wyvern]

You gotta talk with mics

[uncut violet]

Any chat?

[simple wyvern]

no chats are in the game

Game is very talk based

[brave minnow]

Gotta use in game voice unfortunately

[uncut violet]

Well me and the other dude haven't said a word

[modern mauve]

I looked at the screenshot for outside of TW, it looks so similar to what we have now, I mistook it for the current version

[livid leaf]

wtf is going on with smudging but still dying. Like I’ve smudged & & I should be safe bc it’s not super close to me, but I still die. SMH

[brave minnow]

I mean it’s not that big of a deal to not talk just more helpful if you do

[uncut violet]

I have 0 evidecne striped off

[brave minnow]

When you get to higher lobbies they might kick you if you don’t talk it kinda sucks

[uncut violet]

Oh my god this ghost is going 20mph

[brave minnow]

It happens 😭

[uncut violet]

No literaly, running around that speed

[brave minnow]

How long have you been playing?

[uncut violet]

15 min in this session

[brave minnow]

Overall have you played very much?

If not I can get on and try and help if you need

[uncut violet]

I've known the game for many years, but only bought it 2 days ago, it's always been up my list and I love the paranormal

[brave minnow]

Yea fair enough

Well if you want some help I can get in and play a few try and explain basic stuff

[uncut violet]

If you'd like, after this roud though and I don't talk if that's okay.

[brave minnow]

Yea complete fine you can just text

I have another friend I play with who never talks

Let me know when your round is over I can do a couple

[calm rivet]

Im 4$ short of being able to afford phasmophobia I hate being broke 💔

[hazy current]

Ouch

[brave minnow]

Oh that sucks 💔

[calm rivet]

Gonna cry

[brave minnow]

I don’t blame you

[hazy current]

Dont cry at least a revenant won't try to kill you

[calm rivet]

True

[brave minnow]

😭

[fading jackal]

so wait do we get the map on march 3rd or is that when CCs get it?

[calm rivet]

But im also getting bored of ready or not (I bought it yesterday and already,clocked 12 hours)

[brave minnow]

All I’m assuming get it

[fading jackal]

so CCs probably get it a day before.

[brave minnow]

Since I don’t think they would announce that day and not give it to everyone

[odd vale]

March 3rd is when we get it.

[brave minnow]

Yea probably

[fading jackal]

got it. march 3rd is when tanglewood dies.

[onyx meteor]

Does it include the player charater update?

[brave minnow]

Yes 😔

[uncut violet]

Oh wow I got so much there goes my whole beginner levels lol

[odd vale]

Don’t think so @onyx meteor but it won’t be long before that’s out.

[brave minnow]

Lol

[uncut violet]

4 levels in 1 round

[brave minnow]

It happens early on

[last drift]

So you're just not interested in horror 2.0?

[odd vale]

Technically renamed to Phasmo 1.0 now. Just mentioning it so when it’s said as that in future posts from devs

[fading jackal]

i was. years ago when they first announced it. now, the game isn't scary anymore. it's barely even creepy.

[uncut violet]

So I got allot of new items, do I get firelights?

[onyx meteor]

They said it would come out with tangy wood 🥺

[lime token]

Ooo 3rd March, I'm excited

[last drift]

Thats a no?

[fading jackal]

that's kinetic. broken promises.

[brave minnow]

Just depends on what you want

[jovial seal]

not with player character to :((

[odd vale]

Not exactly. They said they’d come out but not specifically together.

[fading jackal]

that'd be a no.

[jovial seal]

they did in the christmas preview

[prime elk]

vampiredruid.

"Both the reworked 6 Tanglewood Drive and our Player Character Update will be launching early next year, so stay tuned for more details on both as we get closer to their release."

So my guess is they might have meant in the same quarter, not necessarily at the same time

Triggered by mezzojd • Click username to jump to message · Feb 24, 2026, 3:19 PM

[uncut violet]

I can play now, want to go to dms?

[last drift]

Horror 2.0, now Phasmo 1.0, is an advancement to make the game spookier with more events, hallucinations, using the house assets.

[brave minnow]

Sure sure

[jovial seal]

so it can still release in march?

[last drift]

You literally jsut said it wasn't spoky anymore, but map updates are needed for the horror 2.0

[odd vale]

Yeah

[onyx meteor]

"Launching alongside the Player Character Update will be our reworked version of 6 Tanglewood Drive." - Dev preview 21

[jovial seal]

see mezzo

[fading jackal]

"Launching alongside the Player Character Update will be our reworked version of 6 Tanglewood Drive."
they did, actually.

[jovial seal]

glad i wasnt crazy haha

[onyx meteor]

I mean its not out of charater for a failed promise, hopefully the player charatrr comes out soon

[jovial seal]

they said early this year

[lime token]

I like the little train set on the preview

[jovial seal]

so we are guessing its till in march since its on internal testing

[odd vale]

That’s annoying then. I’m gonna see what I can find out.

[onyx meteor]

They said last year

[jovial seal]

they said on the roadmap stream it didnt got delayed yet

like on 27th january

[onyx meteor]

Roaf map 2025

[jovial seal]

2026

[fading jackal]

thing is, i'm willing to roll with broken promises.

kinetic hasn't earned that from me.

if anything, kinetic has showed me time and again that when it comes to player feedback, they give neither a rat's ass, nor a fuck.

so they don't get my forgiveness with broken promises.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[somber bane]

if new tanglewood will have looping spots in both sides of the house that would be cool

[last drift]

Looping is a mechanic not lost onto the devs

[somber bane]

it sucks that there's only like the garage and kitchen and you're SOL if you have to go the other way

[smoky thorn]

loop the entire house

[charred solstice]

I’m scared…tanglewood my beloved

[fading jackal]

so far it looks like just the car if it isn't too close to the garage door, and MAYBE the kitchen table, but i think the ghost will be able to see us when crouched there.

[lime token]

Only issue I see with the rework is the darkness they seem to add to these newer maps

Overall I like the decor

[fading jackal]

yeah the darkness of the map makes it look like someone stabbed the ground with a knife there.

[south seal]

im so excited

[modern mauve]

Granny's house!

[smoky thorn]

I'm sure the newer maps use some form of dynamic lighting as you can see in Nell's but we all suffer due to it.

[jovial seal]

do you guys think we will be able to acess the outside?

[modern mauve]

I'm very very interested to see what they do with the basement

[fading jackal]

kinda hope not. i don't like outside ghost rooms.

[somber bane]

im definitely gonna spend the 10k for tier 2 headcam if every map is going to be so dark

[lime token]

Will have to play a lot of tanglewood now to say goodbye though 😔

[fading jackal]

just remember to be careful, when turned on they're an electronic that the ghost can detect.

[modern mauve]

Yeah, I think so - kinda like a "tutorial" or sorts on how to deal with outside rooms

Thanks Kinetic, pumping out good stuff ❤️

[fading jackal]

well, pumping out stuff. non necessarily good stuff, but stuff.

[last drift]

No, im still gonna play tanglewood

[fading jackal]

i may not be hype for most reworks, but i do love nell's.

[lime token]

I don't really see why people are complaining about the rework. Is it mainly just the kitchen people are sad about? 😭

[fading jackal]

honestly if a rework must happen, point hope is right fucking there

[somber bane]

nell's diner is one of my fav maps if i play nightmare or smth

[modern mauve]

People are closed minded and love to bitch, but it is their perogative

[smoky thorn]

It was one of the least necessary reworks. A fan favorite. You could argue plenty of other maps could use TLC before Tanglewood ever need be touched, namely, say, Brownstone

[somber bane]

the hunts feel less black and white, there's very few dead ends and you always have somewhere to run

[fading jackal]

now i kinda want to do 0 evidence on nells.

[lime token]

Yeah I get that, they could've reworked tangle last

[fading jackal]

we want the new map. but we want to keep the old map too. nothing wrong with that. you're the closed minded ones.

[modern mauve]

Idk, I think pulling off the plaster earlier rather than later is a wise idea

[last drift]

It's not closed minded to understand the reason why they can't allow legacy maps with the new updates

[lime token]

Thing is though there are other maps that also need reworking, like a lesser fan favorite such as ridgeview

[somber bane]

tanglewood is very much meant to be an easy map so it better be

[fading jackal]

it is. they could bring the maps up to the new standards while not changing them where they don't need to.

[last drift]

The developers cannot modify the existing maps in any meaningful way that will allow them to do the things they want to do in Horror 2.0 (phasmo 1.0)

They literally can't do that. It's the entire reason they're changing to the new updated maps. If they could just do that , then they would just do that

This isn't being closed minded.

This is "we can't do the things we want to do with these maps.And if we allow you to play them after we do the things we want to do , it'll completely break the game"

[jovial seal]

i wonder how big horror 2.0 is

[modern mauve]

I agree, I woulda done Highschool before TW personally, but hey it's Kinetic's game and they prefer to put a heavier focus on smaller maps

[fading jackal]

then let the old maps just exist as they are. maybe make them a special legacy system.

[last drift]

Being closed-minded is hearing all of this, shutting it down, and saying I wanted anyway

[last drift]

My point right there , you didn't actually read anything , I said

Have a good day

[fading jackal]

i did though?

i said "special legacy system".

[mild summit]

Are we ever getting big map reworks or new ones

[somber bane]

if the game was designed by the average player we would have a 20 page long settings menu

[mild summit]

Or do to few people like them

[last drift]

All of them maps are going to get a rework

[modern mauve]

Eventually, yeah

[lunar heart]

Awww I’m hoping for horror 1.0 rework and lore….

[last drift]

It's coming

[mild summit]

Ok that’s great to hear

[fading jackal]

i mean, sunny meadows replaced the old asylum, so probably.

[lime token]

I'm excited for the larger map reworks the most, it's a shame the devs prioritise smaller maps

[last drift]

Especially with the movie update

[subtle condor]

Am i the only one Who hates the upcomming revamp of tangelwood

[fading jackal]

even point hope? please tell me point hope is getting a rework. that map makes me motion sick to play.

[lime token]

Oh my I completely forgot about the movie lol

[somber bane]

stupid question, ofc not

[plain solstice]

So, new audio features in Tanglewood... I just hope it is not like Nell's Diner, where when you walk on the lino floor it sounds like you are wearing flippers!

[last drift]

Point hope is already custom assets 100 hundred percent

[modern mauve]

Same, for better or for worse the larger playerbase prefer smaller maps, so they're the priority

[mild summit]

It’s a new map so no

[last drift]

Point.Hope is not a store bought asset

[subtle condor]

Who even wants the new tanglewood map

[last drift]

Anyone who wants horror 2.0/phas 1.0

[mild summit]

Im down for any update atp

[fading jackal]

but what about "LeVeL dEsIgN iS nEvEr DoNe?"

[subtle condor]

Just not tanglewood bro

Its my fav map

[somber bane]

i think reworking these old as hell barebones design maps is a good thing

[worldly spruce]

does anyone here actually wants the tanglewood rework?

[mild summit]

Maybe you will like it more

[lunar heart]

I know. But I just wish it was first update instead of Tanglewood. Or I don’t mind if we give them more time to get all planned into one update even if it take 1 year more. That fine either way

[last drift]

Me

[lime token]

It'll still be your favourite map, but just a lot prettier! (and darker)

[lunar heart]

It just nice look. Probably mostly layout just same according to announcement.

[last drift]

I really wanna play the video game that the developers originally had in their head when they tried releasing it to the public four years ago

[fading jackal]

i don't.

[mild summit]

If there going to ruin juggling with the next update people wil cry aswell

[last drift]

I've enjoyed the game so far.And i've enjoyed playing alongside the development team , but i'm really , really excited to see the full breadth of what this team can do

[odd vale]

I like the art style of the new maps.

[worldly spruce]

it's a completely different place bro...

[last drift]

Absolutely

[last drift]

You know that from two screenshots?

[lime token]

Lol I can imagine trying to juggle with the silly animations for picking up and dropping items 😭

[modern shale]

Nothing is more intimidating than not playing for over 6 months then trying to come back and join a public group lmao

[lunar heart]

They just rework because they want to make everything with their own assets. You know that old assets isn’t their as they are free assets off from somewhere

[dense ice]

im gonna miss tanglewood

such a peak map

[worldly spruce]

u didn't see the last announcement? everything looks different even if the layout is the same, which is not 100% the same

[last drift]

That and horror 2.0 mechanics. Walls bleeding, insects crawling, painting moving, ceiling breathing

[fading jackal]

you never answered my question about level design. the layout of point hope is bad.

[lunar heart]

You misunderstood. I said map layout almost stay same

But it will always same

[mild summit]

Just play willow if you like the old small maps more

[cobalt onyx]

Willow will be updated eventually too

[lunar heart]

Yes that why I said everything

[lime token]

We will ALL miss the old tanglewood ❤️, but the newer tanglewood will be a lot better looking and it'll feel fresh to play

[last drift]

It's an almost exact replica of existing lightning houses. The level design isn't bad.You just don't like stairs

[odd vale]

I’m not a PH fan for the design of the level but the art style is lovely.

[worldly spruce]

ik and iam not liking it tbh

[somber bane]

kinetic could make the best update ever and yall would whine about it i swear, people hate change so much

[dense ice]

gonna miss the looping spot

[cobalt onyx]

Humans love to complain

[fading jackal]

i don't like stairs because they make me motion sick when they make me walk in circles, that's an accessibility issue just like the darkness is.

[lime token]

I'm in the same boat, I adore the looks of point hope

[last drift]

Interesting enough.There's reasons why lighthouses don't have elevators

[mild summit]

The only thing worth crying about is that Tanglewood will get the new ‘shit’ lighting

[odd vale]

I’ll play with player speed at 150% lol

[last drift]

People have been asking for abandoned mineshafts it's gonna be literally the same exact thing

[lunar heart]

If you don’t like it, then don’t play rework Tanglewood and play other maps. Simple that

[worldly spruce]

yes we hate changes cuz it's already good, why change a thing when nobody complaints about it

[last drift]

Only Inverted and going down not up

It's not that the level design sucks.It's just that you don't enjoy taking stairs.That's fine. I\nAlso, don't enjoy point.Hope for the same reason, but it's not because the level design sucks.It's because I don't like trekking up six flight of stairs to 1 room

[somber bane]

why update anything if it all works

[lunar heart]

Because devs want change all old assets with their new own assets.

[fading jackal]

i mean, i will really miss the kitchen island looping spot. also they've been breaking lockers lately so the ghost can walk into them, so i'm hoping the lockers remain safe in the rework.

[last drift]

Horror 2.0

[worldly spruce]

i want to play the tanglewood we have now cuz it's just good

[cobalt onyx]

The devs have a vision and are going to see that vision out no matter what people say. It’s their game

[last drift]

But it wont work with horror 2.0

[pliant oar]

Anyone else going to stop playing tanglewood after this 💔💔

[last drift]

Nope

[cobalt onyx]

“We want it to be scarier” “we don’t want the maps to change” it can’t be both

[odd vale]

No

[glacial moth]

me

[pliant oar]

Valid lol

[worldly spruce]

ik and it's a good thing but not hen you implement it like this

[last drift]

You may as well uninstall , because they're gonna do that to every single map

[analog widget]

No

[fading jackal]

i can agree with this. visually, point hope looks amazing. just hard to appreciate the looks when you're motion sick from having to go up and down spiraling stairs moving equipment and running from the hunting ghost because your sanity has drained in the process.

[worldly spruce]

that's the thing

[lunar heart]

If they want make Phasmo little scarier, then they have to rework everything

[pliant oar]

Theyre not, they've already done it for several? Theyre not going to rework the reworks?

[modern shale]

I'm gonna miss it because that was the OG a lot of us played for hundreds of hours when the game was first out. Dance parties on the countertop during hunts, Going into the backyard, and dying over and over again in the main hallway when the ghost spawned ontop of you lmao. It's a sad time for some people that have an emotional attachment to the map

[somber bane]

its not a big deal that the kitchen spot is gone, they themselves said in the post that there's gonna be different spots in other places

[glacial moth]

???? what a stupid message

[odd vale]

[lunar heart]

They will rework on old maps because they have old assets, so devs want replace old with their own new assets

[somber bane]

like all you have rn is the garage and the kitchen, so you're basically stuck in one side of the map and if you go to the other you don't have anywhere to loop

[last drift]

Not really. They're literally redoing every single map. If one map update's gonna get you to not play that one map , let me tell you what's happening to the other ones

[pliant oar]

Yeah thats my feeling, going to avoid playing it and just play willow while its un-reworked lol

[fading jackal]

it is a big deal if the ghost will see you even while crouched in those places. the island didn't let them see you.

[odd vale]

Remember, we can have differing opinions as long as everyone is respectful.

[brave minnow]

No but I’m not gonna like it

[worldly spruce]

idk fr, no one knows, u add new maps and it's new experience but when u rework a map ur taking some of the experience away

[cobalt onyx]

People are judging a map they haven’t even played yet. Give it a chance.

[pliant oar]

Its a win-loss, win new stuff, loss all the nostalgia

[modern shale]

So much Willow lol I love it

[glacial moth]

i dont like specific map rework not reworks in general bruh

[mild summit]

It’s better if they remove all los breaking looping spots shit is easier than a shimmy

[last drift]

Willow fridgeview and edgeville are next

[fading jackal]

translation: we can have differing opinions as long as they agree with kinetic's "vision for the game". other wise, feel free to shout into the void because they won't listen and they don't care.

[smoky thorn]

and if you don't like new stuff....

[odd vale]

No - I mean don’t be rude to each other.

[last drift]

You've seen two screenshots , and you've already determined its shit. Let's wait till march.

[glacial moth]

nope i have seen like 6

[worldly spruce]

ik, i don't dislike the idea of reworking, just that tanglewood was already perfect and didn't need any rework

[odd vale]

I’ve disagreed with KG plenty of times.

[fading jackal]

maybe that's what you mean, but you can't say my message is innacurate when compared to how things pan out.

[last drift]

Translation: don't be a dick to others because they disagree with you.

Ive also openly questioned some choices

[odd vale]

You’re “translating” it wrong. Do not put words in my mouth. Thanks.

[somber bane]

if the devs actually didn't listen the game would be dead long ago lets be fr here

[glacial moth]

true

[fading jackal]

i'll be honest, i try not to be. sometimes i fail at that and i do appologize for those failures. it's frustrating to see something i love changed so drastically and be told "deal with it or stop playing".

[pliant oar]

We've seen several and they wrote descriptions for what we can't see. Thats where most peoples frustration and/or judgments are coming from, such as the kitchen island being removed has a lot of people sad

[glacial moth]

do they even play this game? what happened to the game i love???

[brave minnow]

There’s been many screenshots 😭

[last drift]

2 screen shots.

[mild summit]

Give us old asylum sunny is to small

[last drift]

Theres been 2. Oh and a third of the hall leading to front door

[brave minnow]

Nono new sunny is perfectly fine

[cobalt onyx]

It’s ok to be upset that things are changing, we’re mostly just saying to give it a chance

[fading jackal]

fair, and i didn't really mean to. you seem like a decent enough person. but the end result of player feedback to kinetic lines up with what i said.

[pliant oar]

So.. they posted more that were technically "unofficial" back when they announced the rework?

[red forge]

translation=i hate myself and need to work on that

[glacial moth]

however map reworks were insanely good bro that was great they replaced it older ones were shit let's be honest here however tanglewood rework looks not promising to me

[fading jackal]

projecting?

[brave minnow]

Kitchen living room garage hall

[red forge]

nope!

[fading jackal]

sure buddy.

[icy yoke]

More work being done on this game than "finished" games that are still pre-release.

[last drift]

Since they announced that they were reworking , they've only posted two screenshots of tanglewood , one of them is missing a counter and shows a reworked kitchen. The second shows a shot from the living room, leading to the kitchen.But there's a black space where the front door should have been.

A recent twitter post shows a shot from the living room down the hallway to the front door.

There has\nBeen no other tanglewood screenshot posted by the developer

[modern shale]

You 2 stop

[odd vale]

It’s perfectly valid to be disappointed with a map being reworked that you didn’t want reworked. And anything else that gets changed in a game.

[red forge]

will do

[sour grove]

Very healthy way of accepting criticism

[odd vale]

I will have to up the slowmode again, I guess.

[glacial moth]

thank you for understanding

[fading jackal]

i will if a mod tells me to.

[glacial moth]

they wont fire you dont worry

[red forge]

@fading jackal im sorry for what i said, that was stupid

[brave minnow]

Yes!

[odd vale]

It is not valid, however, to insult each other.

[drifting dust]

I have been very open about my distain for the fact they are changing TW, but like… it is what it is. If I don’t like the rework I won’t play it 🤷‍♂️

Unfortunately I can’t change them doing what they’re doing lmao

[last drift]

Not with that attitude

[brave minnow]

I may not like the rework but I’m still gonna play it cause I enjoy the game

[pliant oar]

Apologies. There were two MORE. Two short videos showing before and after. Including "screenshots" of the garage and living room?
Did you not look at the announcement on their website? The game announcements tab here on discord?

[mild summit]

I like the rework game is boring without updates

[prime pine]

I feel like these shouting matches in these main channels would be avoided if there was actually a dedicated feedback channel...

[last drift]

@modern mauve and I are going to visit that barn of an office

[smoky thorn]

I rather prefer the updates where new stuff comes out.

[last drift]

And give them a piece of mind

[modern shale]

I'm pretty sure Mezzo has already said something to you once. Just please it can be chill

[analog widget]

Also wdym tw doesn't look promising the layout is basically the same they've just added new assets

[brave minnow]

Fair enough I would prefer like new maps evidence cursed objs stuff like that

[modern mauve]

LOL come on now

[brave minnow]

Instead of reworking stuff players already love

[fading jackal]

i enjoy the game too. but if there ends up being no maps that i enjoy, what's the point of playing in the future? or if there's only one map? if i'm not having fun, i won't play. then will i be judged for disliking every map? "just get over it, find a new map to enjoy."

[somber bane]

the new tanglewood is going to be much better because it will at least not be so goddamn boring

[sour grove]

That's the unfortunate part though, from what I gather tanglewod is the most popular map, and if a lot of people aren't fond of it it'll affect the game a lot more than if they experiment with, for example, ridgeview

[mild summit]

I would rather get a new big map but whatever

[somber bane]

hopefully you won't be sitting behind the same spot for every single game

[cobalt onyx]

There will be more things to interact with, more chances for scares. Everyone is shitting on the rework before they’ve seen it

[modern shale]

I'm sad about the change, but I'm excited to play it. They haven't missed yet IMO with changes

[pliant oar]

Same, a new cursed object would be so cool

[last drift]

I still crack up everytinr

[brave minnow]

It would be

[worldly spruce]

translation: took the map and changed everything beside the walls

[vagrant palm]

Why are you reworking something that the community loves? Just why? Create new maps and don't change something that is already great! Just create two versions of every map or add a legacy option so that players can decide which version they will play. This way, everyone has a choice! Giving players a choice and an option is always better than removing something!

[last drift]

No, the walls are getting changed too.We need them so that they can breathe and bleed

[red forge]

it could bring new things to enjoy in tanglewood

[fading jackal]

backseat modding.

[cobalt onyx]

We’re getting another small map this year. Overwhelmingly the community prefers small maps over large so we probably won’t see a new large map for a while

[odd vale]

They wanna have their own assets.

[modern mauve]

The overall layout seems to be mostly the same yeah, just the stuff inside of each room

[brave minnow]

Like what about an old theater map or something that would be fun

[last drift]

#rules members are allowed to remind other members of what the rules are

[odd vale]

They aren’t wrong. 👍

[smoky thorn]

man if the chat is this lively now I'm gonna have to get some popcorn for release day

[mild summit]

😭

[worldly spruce]

😭

[pliant oar]

@last drift just so you can see the new "screenshots" check the game announcements

[lunar heart]

I understand that y’all upset with Tanglewood rework. Please give it try chance to see if you like it. But you know that map layout will stay same.

Why developers rework on old maps because they want to replace all old assets which not their own assets. That why they replace old assets with new assets.

That reason for they replace old assets because they want to make phasmophobia little scarier.

I do like old Tanglewood. But I’m sure I will enjoy new rework Tanglewood as you will do too. Remember please give it try chance to see if you enjoy it.

[brave minnow]

I don’t like big maps cause it takes so long to play

[last drift]

This

[cobalt onyx]

If they left the old house maps as is and just made new maps, there would be a huge disconnect in horror aspects between them because the old maps just cannot be manipulated in the same way as new ones with new assets. We could even reach a point where new ghosts don’t work on old maps because they lack the unique interactions needed to identify them

[last drift]

Developers have been stating for years that they need to redo all the maps for the upcoming horror update

[red forge]

oh damn, blackheart blocked me

[queen lintel]

[odd vale]

People are welcome block whoever they want. It’s fine.

[last drift]

you dodged a bullet I guess

[odd vale]

Stop

[drifting dust]

Good if people can’t agree, it’s safer for them to just block each other. We don’t really need to call it out in chat either.

[last drift]

This

[fading jackal]

real nice.

[modern shale]

THIS!

[pliant oar]

The new car looks cool but ill miss that dumb van

[cobalt onyx]

This chat is way more interesting than working on spreadsheets

[silver spindle]

true

[red forge]

well, i did say something mean to them soo its my fault

[somber bane]

i will not miss not seeing the ghost behind the huge van

[last drift]

Ill do your spreadsheets

[fading jackal]

ok. what did you want to say?

[modern mauve]

I live by the principles of Hakuna Matata

[woeful solar]

I love the new map but damn that car front 😭

[pliant oar]

EXACTLYYYY

[vagrant palm]

damn, good that I can play older versions in Singleplayer with old game versions from steamdb. So I can still play me beloved old farmhouses to this day!

[cobalt onyx]

I’ll do - not finish that thought

[last drift]

CEO: Braxy, why is my spreadsheet a paintby color of... who is "Pirate Hammock"?

[red forge]

i just wanted to apologize for what i said earlier, it was stupid

[woeful solar]

OH I didn't know you can do that
How?

[odd vale]

We don’t encourage playing old versions

[pliant oar]

Wait you can??

[woeful solar]

Oops

[pliant oar]

Oh rip

[last drift]

Actually , this is against end user license agreement and can get account permanently banned

[woeful solar]

Sorry

[fading jackal]

fair enough. i've been heated too. i'm sorry.

[last drift]

So have fun with that , but it is against the rules to even discuss this

#rules

[red forge]

nahh its fine, you were kinda justified in blocking me lol

[sour grove]

That is crazy if that's true

[last drift]

#rules its true

[woeful solar]

Tanglewood is giving very grandma vibes
It was probably build a long time ago and there was a grandma living there

[mild summit]

I think they will prioritize hackers first

[last drift]

Cheaters. Not hackers.

[somber bane]

the old ghetto type house certainly does fit with the tier 1 equipment you'd have in that stage

[modern shale]

It's usually the same with other games too. I had friends get banned bc they were doing this with Dead by Daylight multiplayer

[fading jackal]

no it's not? please point to the line of them where it is. it's against the rules to discuss it, but it's not against the EULA to do it.

[last drift]

Stop calling themhackers they aren't hacking. They have no knowledge no skill. They didn't learn anything , they aren't typing anything , they aren't modifying anything. There are bunch of script kiddies who downloaded a program so they can cheat.

Do not call them hackers , call them cheaters. Everyone wants to be a hacker.No one likes being called a cheater.Ask billy mitchell

[pliant oar]

Oh god its like a new couple moved in and reworked all the historical (nostalgic) pieces of the place 💔

[last drift]

Yes it is

[mild summit]

It’s still profitable to sell levels so they don’t ban people fast I think

[sour grove]

I can understand that somewhat for multiplayer, but for singleplayer that is absurd imo

[last drift]

If you has questions direct it to @modmail

Promise you one hundred percent , this has been come up time and again. This isn't the first time this message has been posted. I promise you its against the rules

[odd vale]

Goodness gracious.

[fading jackal]

i don't think they can ban you for doing that. someone actually did that and got banned for a reason kinetic never specified, then they claimed it was a glitch and unbanned them.

[odd vale]

Either way, for the purpose of the rules in this Discord, it’s fine to discuss it nostalgically but not to play it now or share how to.

[cobalt onyx]

I believe it’s in the EULA?

[pliant oar]

Thank u mods 🙏

[last drift]

Also section 3 rule 4 last paragraph "discussing distribution of older version "

[fading jackal]

i don't think it can be since steam allows you to do it.

[pliant oar]

Clarification is always swag

[last drift]

It's part of your end user license agreement that you agree to yes

[fading jackal]

those are server rules, not the EULA.

[odd vale]

I would have to double check

[last drift]

Just because I can run red lights doesn't mean i'm allowed to I agreed that I wouldn't when I got my license

[woeful solar]

Okiee
I am interested in older game versions etc
I think itd interesting to see how far they've come and I think the devs are doing great especially with the map reworks

[cobalt onyx]

Steam is just a platform. The rules for the game are in the Eula that everyone agrees to

[last drift]

I'm referring to the original question that the rule wasn't in the #rules

I promise you 100%.It's also in the EULA.Why would I make up lies on the internet

[fading jackal]

they use steams VAC system. they have to abide by steam's VAC rules to ban you. steam isn't going to let them ban you for doing something steam allows you to do.

[mild summit]

But content creators play older versions as well so they get banned too

[sour grove]

People make stuff up on the internet??😮

[last drift]

I'm just giving you the best information possible.And if you want to ignore that and then go do your own thing.Good luck

[drifting dust]

Content creators have special permission and a specific way of doing so

[cobalt onyx]

Idk man. The EULA says the devs don’t want you to play old versions of the game. Take it up with the devs maybe

[modern shale]

Content creators do things usually with the permission of the creators

[pliant oar]

I didnt play then but there used to be like shelves(?) For the items? And a different lobby. Saw it in yt videos and by the time i got the game it was reworked LMAO

[last drift]

Yes way back in the day

[woeful solar]

Yessss

[mild summit]

Ok ty

[last drift]

"Kinetic Partners"

I dont think any old streamer gets away with it

[mossy mason]

If you’re interested, check out the official Partner channels
They have videos of old Phas

[sour grove]

We the lowerclass fr

[woeful solar]

I saw em!

[keen saddle]

They don't use VAC. They have their own system.

[wise oyster]

They just stealth edited the blog post saying customization was coming with Tanglewood

[lunar heart]

Also it is on channel rule. I’m sure it there.

Anyone may discuss any old version and build version. But not allowed to explain how to download or give them instructions. It big no

[last drift]

Thank you

[cobalt onyx]

Did they actually lmao

[mild summit]

Lol

[cobalt onyx]

Yesssss

[sour grove]

Ain't no way bro imagine u can customize the kitchen island back pog

[last drift]

In time for easter , I better get my fucking bunny ears

[wise oyster]

no in the other direction

[last drift]

I swear to god , I will visit that barn of an office....

[pliant oar]

I wish 🥀

[last drift]

And I'll have some strong words...

Like, oh my God, I love your game.Keep up the good work.And then I go back to my hotel , and i'm like , wait a minute....

[cobalt onyx]

Wait so no customization?

[mild summit]

Who thinks costumization gets delayed again

[mossy mason]

Not with Tangle rework

[woeful solar]

Omg I'm so excited

[wise oyster]

coming separately. orginally they said they were coming together

[wise oyster]

it basically just did

[cobalt onyx]

[lunar heart]

LMAO because they saw this channel. Did they lol

[mild summit]

Maybe we get it with horror 2.0 in 5 years

[mild ivy]

So little tidbits. Playing the older versions of Phas simply isnn't viable. Here's why.

1: Old versions still contain old bugs which have been squashed in newer updates, that means if a player comes to us for support because they SOMEHOW managed to play the old version [This is usually done through illegal means.] then we cannot support it because these bugs have been dealt with already.

2: Imperative that people play the new versions of the game as it's up-to-date, and it allows other players to play with eachother on the same version checksum.

3: Security Risks.

4: Don't consider yourself lowerclass because a small minority may still play the old version [Somehow.] be happy that you can play the game at all. Updates are needed, and sometimes some reworks are required so that other things work well.

[fading jackal]

ok, good to know. but i still want to see if it really is in the EULA. because if it is, that's super fucked up and downright cruel.

[last drift]

Do you?\nWant me to find the exact paragraph in section

[drifting dust]

I think this is an exaggeration, it’s not cruel but it does suck a little yknow

[last drift]

I'll bet it somewhere around the whole modification part of the e u l a

[cobalt onyx]

How is it fucked up and cruel that you can’t play old versions of a game

[keen saddle]

You can check yourself! The EULA is in #rules.

[woeful solar]

Calling some choice a dev for their game made cruel and fucked up when there's other real issues is crazy

[fading jackal]

"be happy you can play the game at all"
that... bruh, i can't even.

[fleet sleet]

Since when u can record obake shapeshift 😭

[chrome mica]

Yo guys,can u find that cursed hand on Tanglewood?

[sour grove]

None of those really address single player imo

[woeful solar]

It's in the dining area

[mild ivy]

Because Singleplayer still ties in to MP due to Account.

[chrome mica]

Thanks

[woeful solar]

Yw

[last drift]

Yes curio in dining

The wardrobe China cabinet

[fair cedar]

If the Tanglewood rework comes early next month, then I wonder if the Willow rework comes the month after and the new map comes in May

[wise oyster]

add like 3 months between those

[cobalt onyx]

I’d expect the new map closer to the end of the year

[drifting dust]

A month apart for maps is insanely optimistic

[chrome mica]

Yep I found it

[cobalt onyx]

Halloween is the biggest event for phas so that’s probably around when they’ll make a big update

[fair cedar]

I hope we get a teaser in the coming months

[sour grove]

Sure but that's like the developers (not KG just any in general) not allowing offline play because of some mostly irrelevant online features, which no one likes to my knowledge

[woeful solar]

It would be cool if the new map was some kind of amusement park

[peak blade]

it's likely Tanglewood now, Player update next, then Willowstreet, then new map imo

[mild summit]

Im curious how big is the team now they made a shit ton of money

It was run by one person right at the start

[wise oyster]

All I want is the unity upgrade atp

[last drift]

50+

[peak blade]

around 40 now?

[fair cedar]

Or a large cemetery the size of Brownstone or Prison

[mild ivy]

You are more than welcome to suggest offline play on a continuing basis. But if the Devs wish to make it inn this particular way, then it is what it is.

[woeful solar]

Are the benefits gonna be brightness and graphic related cuz I'd love that

[last drift]

HR, Administration,Testing, Development

[modern mauve]

Unity6 update, hopefully sooner rather than later

[woeful solar]

Prison again would be lamee imo

[last drift]

#fan-suggestions go here

[modern mauve]

(I'd honestly be fine with this coming before Character rework)

[fair cedar]

Oh wow, I did not know this server had that

[last drift]

Be aware, devs aren't looking at it

[fair cedar]

That’s alright

[wise oyster]

that's what's been advertised

[fading jackal]

i would love to see it, yes. because i just looked and couldn't find it.

[last drift]

Start at 2.1.8 where you srent given permission to modify or access code

[drifting dust]

It’s been a while since I’ve actually read the EULA, it’s probably about time for a refresh

[wise oyster]

(it's not there)

[cobalt onyx]

Swifdt

[last drift]

2.1.8 can be interpreted as such

[fading jackal]

i suspected as much.

[last drift]

Trust, I dealt with this shit for a living

[sour grove]

Fair, I mean obviously I don't expect them to provide online servers for older versions, it's just off that it's apparently completely frowned upon to even play single player

[fading jackal]

we're not modifying or accessing the code though?

[woeful solar]

So it's not bad?

[last drift]

By downloading an older version , you're literally accessing the code

[opaque echo]

it's largely because trying to play the old version can absolutely bork your save files and cloud save files

[woeful solar]

Yes

[last drift]

Please tell me that you're not playing on an older version when you're downloading the older version.How does that work.

[wise oyster]

incorrectly, perhaps. Old versions are downloaded from Steam

[opaque echo]

to the point of them being completely unrecoverable

[fading jackal]

...by that logic, by downloading the CURRENT version we are literally accessing the code.

[mild summit]

Just do it in silence omg😂

[last drift]

By using an older version, you can absolutely destroy our public.Oh , look... Jace is here

And hes basically repeating what I've been saying

[chrome tinsel]

what ghost is stupid fast while hunting

[last drift]

Hi jace!

[wise oyster]

no, you've been saying it's against the EULA, not that it's just a bad idea b/c of risks

[last drift]

Hantu rev moroi thaye

[fading jackal]

i know. that's why backups exist.

[modern shale]

Hi Jace!

[last drift]

It is tho

[woeful solar]

Uhh raiju I think
Did u hear a very bass boosted heartbeat?

[sour grove]

Mic drop

[opaque echo]

every time someone tries it, we know cuz we get them in modmail asking for help fixing their files haha

[last drift]

Lolol

[woeful solar]

😭

[fading jackal]

trust me, not every time someone tries it. believe me, i know.

[opaque echo]

cuz they changed the file save system like...... 2 years ago?

[last drift]

And you have permission.

[woeful solar]

Yeah it can break your save files

[mild summit]

Oh so that’s how people files get deleted

[modern mauve]

So Vand, think we get a looping spot in the basement?

[wise oyster]

Against the EULA: ❌
A bad idea: ✅

[mild ivy]

It's not really frowned upon, but I can see where you are coming from. Thing is the game was designed with MP in mind, while yes they could in theory do a SP experience, but would mean that they need to make a seperate addition. Trust me, I am all for Singleplayer myself too, but I know that sometimes some games are just made in whatever way Devs decided.

Like WoW, I wish there was a pure SP experience without the need of Battle.net. Or Helldivers 2 without the always online requirement. Buuuut yeah. XD

[opaque echo]

yeah it might not be EVERY time, but you're very much rolling the dice haha

[last drift]

I think you really need to read the whole thing before making a really bad hot.Take like that l o l

[fading jackal]

this. very much this.

[lime token]

Oh my i would love that

[last drift]

It would be weird not to have permission to download the current updated version

[woeful solar]

Yes

[fading jackal]

and i think you need to stop gaslighting people.

[modern mauve]

I'm half expecting to see the trainset be the looping spot, that'd be fire

[drifting dust]

I think we can start to move on from this tbh, we have a good answer from the Lead Admin, and no one else is gonna budge on their thinking lmao

[last drift]

I'm just giving you the best available information.And you can take it from there

[mild ivy]

What if I budged you?

[oblique oak]

if you stretch hard enough sure. i wouldn't say downloading via completely legitimate channels or simply not updating the game doesn't match a reasonable interpretation of that in any way

[modern mauve]

Can I budge you?

[mild summit]

Maybe they make the hole map a looping spot like Nell’s diner

[mild ivy]

https://klipy.com/gifs/back-away-4

[fading jackal]

god, shit like this makes me wanna fucking leave this fucking server.

[sour grove]

Been playing on Warmane for like 9 years now for wow haha

[modern mauve]

Can I budge the person who changed my name...twice?

[modern shale]

That would be peak

[mild ivy]

I'll change it to "Zesty old Melon."

[night spoke]

yall the loop is the door in the kitchen to the front room via the garden duh

[mild ivy]

Anyway. Probably want to slowly go back into on-topic for the channel.

[woeful solar]

Do you think the pool area will be open

[opaque echo]

please dont' drown the ghost

[modern mauve]

Trainset looping spot or I riot (and for Hammond, I'll go to their barn of an office)

@last drift

[modern shale]

The ghost already drown

[opaque echo]

think of how many neurospicy people are gonna be enjoying that train set

[last drift]

YEEEE

[modern mauve]

Old man yells at cloud moment

[modern shale]

Can't double drown.... right?

[cobalt onyx]

I think an outside room for the “starter” map is a bad idea, players are getting used to how things work and outside rooms work a little different

[night spoke]

can the ghost spawn in bleasdale garden?

[woeful solar]

Neurospicy

[mild summit]

I wonder if the ghost can still walk through the beds

[last drift]

I better be able to get ghost interactions with that damn train too

Rule out a shade because it didn't make the horn go toot toot

I will straight up fucking riot

[mossy mason]

I hope the door by the kitchen leads to a small outside room on new Tangle
Since it’s the starter map, it’d be useful to teach new players how to deal with outside rooms

[last drift]

How the fuck are you gonna update the map for horror two point oh , and then miss it

[cobalt onyx]

Lmao the complete opposite of what I said

[last drift]

Braxy wants a second exit

Cant leave the house fast enough

[woeful solar]

I wonder if the nursery will still have that cabinet thing

Unofficial hiding spot

[wise oyster]

we'll get a side door it looks like

[sour grove]

Btw anyone know if there's any time restricted badges that happened any time recently or will happen soon? Been playing on and off lately and kinda sad i missed the one that was available for like 2 days during twitchcon or whatever

[cobalt onyx]

I just don’t think an outside room is a good idea for the first map that new players see, but a second exit is a good idea, what if there’s a fire at one exit?

[mild summit]

Probably a twitch badge with Tanglewood

[last drift]

Theyll announce those on Twitter and, #game-announcements

Stay tuned!

Turn on notifications

[deft loom]

[woeful solar]

Like and subscribe

[modern mauve]

I think an outside area is a great idea for a starter map, give newer players a small taste of it

[mossy mason]

Easter is the next one we know of
There might be a drop for Tangle rework though
Or character update

[mild summit]

I think we will get a house badge aswell when they re done but just speculating

[sour grove]

K will try to pay attention

[woeful solar]

Also where do I post potential glitches in maps cuz I'm not sure

[last drift]

#bug-reports

[woeful solar]

Thank you

[mild ivy]

I think we should get a Badge with glitter on it. And when you shine the light on it, it'll sparkle.

[prime pine]

"grandma's gauntlet - 50 ghosts correct on tangle"

[modern mauve]

SO, who's ready to uncover the secret (presumably an easter egg) of the map?

[crisp tinsel]

tanglewood finna be lit

[last drift]

Memememememememememememe

[fading jackal]

literally just realized the door in the kitchen. i guess we're either getting an outdoors area (PLEASE NO), a 2nd entrance (PLEASE YES) or both.

[last drift]

I would prefer a 2nd entrance

I hate "outdoor" sections

[fading jackal]

huh. we DO agree on something.

[drifting dust]

I typically just avoid them lmao

[last drift]

I remember when smudges were global 😭

[fallow walrus]

it’s prob like the door on edgfield that doesn’t open

[odd vale]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[robust oasis]

hoping that the car lets you see the ghost when looping it

[sour grove]

Talk about edging the player

[cobalt onyx]

I could see the second or third map having an outside room. Idk I guess we’ll find out in a week

[mild summit]

Imagine they pushed the car against the garage door removing another looping spot 😂

[fading jackal]

nah, you can see through this one. and it's part of the rework, so, i doubt they'd do that without needing to. for that matter, i fully expect the door on edgefield to either vanish or become usable in the rework.

[last drift]

Please be a zen room

[robust oasis]

💔 i would crash

[fading jackal]

it looks like they might have, i'm concerned bout that.

[last drift]

Little ashtrays and hookahs

[modern mauve]

The screenshot of the outside made it look like the garage door could open

[last drift]

Gramma old school listening to zepplin

[modern mauve]

I wonder if it can open a little

[robust oasis]

it looks good? i think it could be the new best looping spot if the dining table isnt the best

[mild summit]

The old one looks pushed against the garage door as well don’t worry about it

[robust oasis]

the shadow makes it look fine

[bright star]

man im REALLY gonna miss old tanglewood drive

[modern mauve]

I'm banking on a loopable trainset in the basement

[sour grove]

That dining table better be better than the one we have now, otherwise the bar is set real damn low

[robust oasis]

and you would probably be able to see the ghost when looping it with the car so it seems like it could be a good looping spot

[mild summit]

But if the car doesn’t break los😂

[robust oasis]

frr

[drifting dust]

Cherish it! You have a week left! Use all your time you can with it!

I guarantee you I am putting more hours in this week than I have in the past two years

[mild summit]

Nobody talking about the old farmhouses anymore 😞

[fading jackal]

oh hey, they DID update the blog post saying the character reworks would be coming with the tanglewood update.

[mild summit]

Tanglewood Will be the same

[fading jackal]

i mean, clearly it won't be the same.

[bright star]

i will. Ill play it in vr to take it all in again

[sour grove]

I don't think this comparison is very fair, considering basically nobody played the old farmhouses anyway, which is the complete opposite with tanglewood

[sour grove]

Bait or fr?

[mild summit]

It’s getting delayed to q2

[bright star]

i hope that one day they will let us play the old maps too

[tame bluff]

Give me a party vode

Code

[fading jackal]

no, fr.

[robust oasis]

Could be a challenge in the future

[prime elk]

Please keep 'looking for group' requests in our designated channels. Check them out, Investigator: #lfg-eu | #lfg-na | #lfg-as | #lfg-sa!

[cobalt onyx]

The only thing I want is that ridgeview always keeps the fridge spot. I don’t care what else they do to any of the maps. Fridgeview is the best spot

[modern mauve]

I didn't play much of OG Bleasdale, but I played a LOT of OG Grafton - it was my most played map for a little bit

[bright star]

nah but i want them to stay

[sour grove]

I might be illiterate but from what my eyes tell me it says the exact opposite, that they won't be launching at the same time

[modern mauve]

New Bleasdale is now my favourite map of all time

[mild summit]

Rip nursery spot in Tanglewood

[robust oasis]

understandable

[bright star]

like the growth of the platform is unavoidable and reworks are too but tanglewood is my fav map

[deft loom]

My goat hiding spot....

[fading jackal]

right. it used to say they would be.

[cobalt onyx]

I’ve had some pretty bad luck with that spot, but never had an issue with the fridge

[sour grove]

I see

[robust oasis]

yeah true and tangle is also my fav map so sad to see the og go but who knows the new one might be insanely good

[odd vale]

I’m glad they said something about it, at least.

[keen vault]

I hope its going to good other wise idk if i would be playing

[last drift]

"Keen-eyed Ghost Hunters will have seen that our last Developer Preview said the Player Character Update would launch alongside the Tanglewood Rework. Due to the scope of the update, these have now been separated with Tanglewood launching first. But rest assured the Player Character Update will not be far behind"

[bright star]

i hope os

[mild summit]

Good news was expecting a delay to q2

[deft loom]

[fading jackal]

"keen eyed"
the got caught lol

[drifting dust]

Idk if it’s “got caught” more than “they forgot” which honestly is a little worse imo. They know their audience, they wouldn’t purposefully leave it out bc they know it would be seen

Idk, that’s nothing “official” just my opinion

[deft loom]

Just hope its worth the wait

[last drift]

I'll just say it's not the first time they've pushed off an update

[deft loom]

I rly want to personalize my character not just choose a base and change clothes

[last drift]

I want bunny ears

And a leather jacket

[deft loom]

Unlocks like this from easter could be a really cool incentive too
Limited time character customization unlocks

Just nuthin too crazy like auras and trails probably

[sour grove]

Nahh im going around with aura mark my words 💯

[drifting dust]

“Where we droppin? I got my Batman glider so let’s go Prison”

[mild summit]

I hope they have costumization for millions in game cash for us xx

[drifting dust]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-money-suit-gold-gold-suit-rich-gif-2789732109070621766

Me when customization comes

[deft loom]

Xmas hat for Christmas

[chrome tinsel]

can a mare break lights

ik they are like weird with electronics

[mild summit]

They like to do that

[chrome tinsel]

do they break not turn off

i tried throwing the tv remote in the room with it and it did nothing

[blissful ocean]

They do it more often than any other ghost. But technically any ghost can break the same amount of lights as a mare if you're unlucky.

[blissful ocean]

It's if it turns a light on it's not a mare.

[chrome tinsel]

yeah

[blissful ocean]

Also- don't know why- but if you get an EMF 2 on flickering lights, it's not a mare

[atomic lotus]

The way I look at it is if the rework is done may as well push that out

No sense in holding that back until all the customization stuff is done

[blissful ocean]

Exactly. Couldn't have said it better myself.

[wise oyster]

We'll see. They've been working on the Unity upgrade so long, I was hoping it would come with tanglewood and bring some much-needed lighting improvements so everyone's favorite map wouldn't join the "This map is too dark" club.

[atomic lotus]

I assure you it isn’t an easy task updating to 6 lol

Hopefully it’ll be done soon tho

[chrome tinsel]

the ghost crashed out and started hunting as soon as i went into its room at the start of the round and i have uv what does that mean

[blissful ocean]

They are incredibly good at pushing updates out. I'm sure it won't be long

[wise oyster]

been in internal testing since last April

[blissful ocean]

Demon probably? Did you have 100% sanity?

[chrome tinsel]

69 sanity

[mossy mason]

Nice

[atomic lotus]

I about it’s too awfully far away then but we’ll see

[gray burrow]

Next week we lose the best map oat 😞

[blissful ocean]

Probably a demon. Was it highly active?

[chrome tinsel]

kinda

[mossy mason]

It’s a rework, not a removal

[chrome tinsel]

a few things

[gray burrow]

Yeah but the kitchen 😭

[mossy mason]

You’ll be fine.

[blissful ocean]

I'd say it's probably a demon. Demons hunt at any sanity if it uses it's ability.

[worthy nebula]

Can't wait for the Tanglewood rework! :D

[blissful ocean]

Especially because you had UV

[chrome tinsel]

it was a bansheee

🙁

[blissful ocean]

Banshee-? Banshee's can't hunt at 69% sanity unless there's another player and they're at 50? It has to be the banshee's target tho

[gray burrow]

The kitchen island table lowk makes tanglewood a lil sad cuz that is the map that tons of ppl learned how to loop ghosts

[chrome tinsel]

i turned on the breaker and it started hunting

[gray burrow]

I learned in willow, and willow is prolly going to be my favorite map after tanglewood rework (and ofc they are reworking willow too 🤧)

[ocean geyser]

Does anyone know what time they are launching the update on the 3rd?

[modern mauve]

They've not given a time, but 12pm GMT is the typical time

[solemn stream]

Nope. We don’t know a time yet