👶beginner-help

[humble dawn]

keqing is in the game???

[pale bolt]

If you dont mind, if you say their whole names it would be less of a headache for me.. sorry

[kind cliff]

For that one event, yes
Klee exists in a Teresa skin

[shell basin]

You can run Hi Love Elf as a leader with Xentinel Dawnbearing Crescent and Valkyrie Blastmetal as a support

and you can run Xentinel Dawnbearing Crescent with Hi Love Elf and Valkyrie Blastmetal as supports

[pale bolt]

Okay thank!

[kind cliff]

when farming er valks, can i just end on the boss stage or do i need to go to the next one to save progress

[oak estuary]

U can end on the boss stage

[glad ice]

lemme check real quick with LITE

nope. "progress saved" then i "give up" and next time i select "continue" benares is there again;
u need to go through a gate or u will fight boss again

[kind cliff]

ogeh, tysm peoples
have a great night!

[lilac reef]

Does anyone know the weekly AL income?

[glad ice]

there is an AL income faq

#👶beginner-help message

[lilac reef]

Oh thanks. Yea I didn't see it in the pins

[glad ice]

yeah i typed it in the search box but i was sure bcs i already knew there is one

[lilac reef]

Fair enough

Looks like I can't buy ||SW|| and HoH frags every week

[glad ice]

lol me 2

[lilac reef]

Hmmm who do I prioritise lol

[glad ice]

what are ur valks rank rn?

[lilac reef]

Yea

I think ||SW|| is S1 and HoH is SS2

[glad ice]

i think ||SW|| has powerspike at s2 and ss1

hoh on the other hand only has more leader SP on SS3

[lilac reef]

Ok so definitely focus on SS1 first then

Thanks

[kind cliff]

is there a way to turn down button sensitivity or something?
on valks like Lunar Vow where i can spam somethin, it accidentally records it as holding down i think

[glad ice]

blame urself for not having a controller then (me 2)

[lilac reef]

Would a controller really help? I have the same issue on controller too

Sometimes

[kind cliff]

damn...

[glad ice]

im jk. and the answer is no. ppl reported sudden end of LV SO already

i sometimes get it bcs i spam WA while the ult is casting. btw

[kind cliff]

i press weapon active twice and she goes slamming BOTH chainsaws at the same time instead of slicing... hopefully this gets resolved

[bright orchid]

SPOILER 8.8‼️
||So i am planning for silverwing dlc dps soon and im a half beginner half returnee. I need some advice on which banner/character should i get to work with sw cuz my roster is drier than sahara desert||
I can provide info on the contents that i can do to get crystal and also the pity on each banner if i need to
Pls help

My senadina team is only half decent with no sena sig no helia sig

[glad ice]

welp, have u ever considered rerolling, u can reroll for mei or the carnival valks rn

[bright orchid]

Imo frame/connection issue
Basically your tap is recorded for too long and it turns to hold

[bright orchid]

Imo i dont like to rerun since this account has the SW skin

And senadina skin too both of which i like rlly much

[kind cliff]

lemme change settings... dis makes sense

[bright orchid]

Besides though it IS “beginner” it is kinda long in for me and having to reroll would 100% make me quit this game

[terse rapids]

is she good should i upg her?

[bright orchid]

No she is rlly outdated and you should not do it

But she can help you with the early stages
Dont invest on her though

[terse rapids]

i see thanks

[bright orchid]

@glad ice are there any ways or just skip very long until i have a good enough reserve to fix stuffs?
sorry for pinging too

[glad ice]

the dk is cheap anw. 60 pull = 17k xtal

f2p income can be near 20k/patch

(not cheap but cheaper than valk kewk)

about ||SW|| she will be world star so the 2 free A ranks work

more recent valks are mei, hofi dk and fws kianas, seele dk, hle

[bright orchid]

i have Elysian Realm chap 2 and 3 left, the whole part 2, Apho 2 and multiple chapters of part 1 unfinished

[supple gazelle]

Hello! so I'm currently about to start the game in just a few minutes (still downloading the resources), may I ask which characters are good so that I may know who to look out for? I have never stepped into HI3 nor even watched anything about it. I'll blindly start the game as a total noob

[bright orchid]

im planning on getting HLE

too

but might give up that plan if something is more efficient

[low ridge]

I was bored and I did like 25 pulls and I got the weapon at 30 pity what should I do now?

[glad ice]

usually the newest battlesuits are better (1 character can have many battlesuits). u will need a professor's care as a "total noob" as there are quite many things to learn in this game.
about random questions just ask anywhere

[bright orchid]

if you dont have luna then its pratically useless

[low ridge]

I do

[bright orchid]

then build her

Shes a Grail of Infinitude dps

and also a LoA/GoI support

[steep cave]

Hello, i'm relatively new, came from ZZZ after i got a glimpse of miss Espionage and like the design(lol) what are some good general tips i can make use of ?

[glad ice]

did u have her yet

her banner will be 17 April

[steep cave]

i did create my profile on her release and pulled for her and her sig weapon

i was solely sold on just her but now after picking the game more it's getting me more interested in

[glad ice]

then do u have a team. her ring as dps is Wheel(chair) of Destiny. as support it is Law of Ascension

a tip with full team and full SO for ME dps is that u can add an ult right at SO starts, and it will cd for the 2nd ult when SO ends.

and i said full SO bcs u can cut it short by doing ult + weapon finisher

[steep cave]

i don't think i have the dedicated team for her, at least the one showed on the in-game guide page(love elf + lone planetfarer)

[low ridge]

So I’m like completely out of resources this is as high as I can get her. How long does it usually take to farm back up because I usually only get one character version maybe two but in this patch I have gotten three characters and their gears all fully mass and I really wanna be able to use her but how long till I get her level 80

And an astral op

I know how to calculate crystals, but I don’t really know for XP though😭

[glad ice]

lvl is easy. problem should be the torus for weapon up and the prism for stig up

[low ridge]

Yea

[glad ice]

there are more than those two btw. u can check who can support her by doing like my screenshot (it was for forming Grail of Infinitude team but u can follow it to form Wheel of Destiny team

Wheel of Destiny Ring = Harmonized Shadow Star tag

[shell basin]

||Specifically her BiS support, Senadina, will be free next patch||

||and her weapon will be in reserve works||

So that might help you

If you’re dedicated to miss espionage you could also consider the HLE rerun in a few days

[glad ice]

u can farm daily and armada request for EXP chip. torus can be bought in asterite shop and dorm shop, or from BP and gacha. prism is 1 per week from Memorial arena, some from event/BP, and by salvaging dupe part2 stigs

[steep cave]

wow didn't know i can use the filter system like that, thank you

[steep cave]

i have some more that im interested in but so far i think she's my No.1

[low ridge]

Yeah, I have the Taurus and I have like 4 stigmatas I can salvage and I have 10 boxes that I can get prisms from

[low ridge]

The priority for stigma’s is top bottom middle right?

[glad ice]

yeah top = highest atk, bottom = average, mid = usually give 0 atk and highest def but u dont need def in this game

[shell basin]

Then yeah you’ll probably want to ||make sure you grab free Senadina next patch||. Typically Miss Espionage’s best team is Senadina Hi Love Elf or Senadina Thelema, tho occasionally Thelema + Lantern takes the win (symphony weather)

[glad ice]

is it from event

[shell basin]

You could also consider Serapeum, Sonque, or ||Youyun|| as a vertical investment but those are mostly only useful if you have serious competitive goals like Nirvana

[shell basin]

||It’s like Luna||

[glad ice]

ok free is free anw. mine is still s0 since the day i got her

[shell basin]

Senadina ranks aren’t very useful anyway unless you can get to SSS

[steep cave]

noted. i'll look forward to get the free agent then

thelema i can get from the BP system shop no ?

[safe yew]

which silverwing ranks are the best?

[frozen crypt]

S2

[abstract sequoia]

@lament sparrow

here

[lament sparrow]

aight

[abstract sequoia]

idk what your situation is btw, are you a returning player

[shell basin]

If you pay yes. Tho Thelema without her weapon is pretty bricked

[frozen crypt]

Why do I recognise this feller

[shell basin]

So you’d need to buy both

[frozen crypt]

Keanu so back?

[lament sparrow]

well i quitted soon after part 2 release. got some valks as can tell

[lament sparrow]

yeah im deadass back lmao

ive been here since 4 years nonstop everday so im not surprised that you recognized me

[frozen crypt]

makes sense I wasn't sure if it really was you xD

[lament sparrow]

lmao its great to see you again old friend

[frozen crypt]

[lament sparrow]

[abstract sequoia]

alright, do you need to know what to pull

[lament sparrow]

im planning to get new mei right now along with her gears. pity is 40 and 0 xtals right now. doing 10x every 2800

after getting her, idk what to do honestly

[abstract sequoia]

just next patch i guess, you wont have enough for LV dk

[safe yew]

is multi better than singles?

[abstract sequoia]

chance for doubles

technically

[safe yew]

ty

[abstract sequoia]

it's mostly just faster

if you need to only do singles, don't waste more over 10 pulling

[lament sparrow]

i see so i get get then wait for next patch. oh also i got lucky on carnival and got badum kiana at first 10x but no gears atm. what should i do about it as well?

[abstract sequoia]

keep her without weapon

she is fine as a support that way

[shell basin]

Chance for doubles silly on F2P budget. Getting a dupe valk early is another Valk s0 you could have gotten early and saved you the pulls for a better vertical. Time is fair tho

[safe yew]

i wish i got her T-T

[safe yew]

so should i do only singles?

[shell basin]

If you are budgeting carefully it’s very slightly better

[safe yew]

tysm

[glad ice]

my luck with carnival is 0, x3.
still 0

[frozen crypt]

only downside to singles is the boring asf animation

[lament sparrow]

aight thx its a relief to hear that cuz you know part 1 valks always needed their weapons

[safe yew]

do we get free pulls every carnival ?

[shell basin]

They still do for DPS but for support it’s more optional

[safe yew]

they still do. just not supports

[frozen crypt]

generally you should only do 10x if you need to for a discount to apply

[abstract sequoia]

oh dont get me wrong, part 2 valks also need those. many buffs just got moved into stigmata instead

[shell basin]

DPS without weapon = brick, supp without weap = moderately worse

Usually

[glad ice]

ofc. should never spend on them.

[safe yew]

how often do we get carnival supply and every carnival supply we get free pulls?

[abstract sequoia]

and stigs are, well, free

[shell basin]

About twice a year

[lament sparrow]

oh i see. cant play her as a dps but can work in mei teams

[abstract sequoia]

mhm

[safe yew]

on chinese anni and global anni ?

[abstract sequoia]

she's one of the fastest supports actually

[lament sparrow]

i can then slap old pri arm of hofi

[safe yew]

i dont remember having free carnival pulls back in 2024 when i stopped playing

[frozen crypt]

consider that in contrast to part 1, part 2 is a lot cheaper so everyone and their grandma has a team of 3 fully geared S ranks now - even f2p (assuming they've been playing consistently for multiple patches)

[shell basin]

Yeah that’s her best cope option

[frozen crypt]

a rank coralie is the goat for filling gaps in ur teams tho

[glad ice]

new year event and anniversary, ig

[shell basin]

A rank Cora still carrying vita

[frozen crypt]

real

[safe yew]

im suffering as a returnee ahaha came back almost 2 years later

[abstract sequoia]

they were a thing

[safe yew]

but i will be okay by the end of this year

[abstract sequoia]

2 10 pulls on valk too

[frozen crypt]

yea returnees honestly have it way worse than beginners

[safe yew]

since when bc i dont remember

[abstract sequoia]

since carnival exists

[safe yew]

thats okay tho its just a thing of patience

i wish carnival pity didnt reset tho

[frozen crypt]

ah well 20 free pulls AND it counts towards spending event... I think the pity resetting is a fine tradeoff

[abstract sequoia]

7.8 was october 17 2024

carnival went on there until november 8th

iirc, both 10 pulls were distributed not at the same time back then

but now they are

[safe yew]

its been a thing since october 2024? yeah i waws not playing that time.

[abstract sequoia]

yeah i remember it well due to my own griefs i've done on there

i got thelema in the free 10 pulls and thought i could pull thelema's weapon without having all 60 pulls saved up

[lament sparrow]

i have 3 star kiana elf but do i need any astralOP girls btw?

[shell basin]

Depends on your goals. Astral Ops are needed to consistently retain Nirvana

But EU RL should be fine with Dreamseeker and Kiaelf

[abstract sequoia]

some people will have songque S now too

because she is in spending shop

[shell basin]

Better to get Kiaelf up to 4* if you can as well but probably not doing a lot of spending event this patch

[safe yew]

so the free carnival first started then with thelema ?

[abstract sequoia]

yeah definitely better, the only downside for kiaelf is the lower ARI

but she has stronger buffs than Songque on S only

while songque can be used on any elemental team, ending up better in Ice compared to Kiaelf

[safe yew]

im assuming we will have carnival again in october anni ? whos gonna be carnival supply there. ely rita ?

[abstract sequoia]

no clue who will be there

or when they even schedule the next

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion usually knows first

[outer spruce]

whoever they want, last carnival was surprising because sushang was in it despite just coming out

[safe yew]

oh wow

[lament sparrow]

gap is big between 3* kiana elf?

[abstract sequoia]

3* kiaelf does better in Stellar Outburst

outside it, Songque will do slightly better

i've used 3* for a long time and honestly I've usually beaten low ranked songques

that includes some nirvana cycles

your only advantage with songque is the Ice element being covered, where kiaelf will do less overall

[lament sparrow]

oh thats good

im behind in story a lot so im trying to cover this up rq

it will take so much time...

[abstract sequoia]

it's a peak story though

the first 3 part 2 chapters are longer than the rest

[safe yew]

so i beat ||evil songque and then dreamkeeper was tryna find senadinas existence|| or something. how much i have left? i know i have a lot left

[abstract sequoia]

i'd advice you not to say stuff about the story in here

[safe yew]

oh sorry

[abstract sequoia]

to keep things spoiler free

[safe yew]

i fixed it

[abstract sequoia]

still a lot more story arcs

[lament sparrow]

they were saying part 2 will kill the game but look at it now.

[abstract sequoia]

if you want to know in detail, #📚honkai-lore is where you can ask story stuff

[lament sparrow]

more enjoyable than hsr tbh

im glad im back at it

[abstract sequoia]

fearmongering at the time, also early chapters had mixed reception

[frank jungle]

i m newbie I got hoe elysia in dorm supply should I reroll bcz she is free thou I love her u guyz tell me ?

[glad ice]

hoe elysia

[safe yew]

who to get from here

im assuming the answer but still asking lol

[shell basin]

||Silverwing||

||she got dkey next patch||

[lament sparrow]

i think SW stamps if you have her

[safe yew]

can i also get sw from here

[lament sparrow]

hoe elysia

[safe yew]

i dont have her

[shell basin]

Yeah sure you want ranks

[lament sparrow]

get SW then get stamps

[shell basin]

Since most people will have her SS-SSS already

[lament sparrow]

if you want ER xtals get anyone else idk

[supple gazelle]

Hello! may I ask which banners are "limited" and "standard"?

[safe yew]

so from here im gonna get her default and from returnee thingie ima get stamps? is it the best way

[shell basin]

Dorm is standard, don’t spend crystals there

[supple gazelle]

other than dorm is good?

[shell basin]

Battlesuit and Equipment supply are your normal banners, some are better than others but they’re what you pull on

Carnival and Asc supply are usually older battlesuits and don’t keep pity

So they’re mostly not worth it

[supple gazelle]

Is the current battlesuit banner the best one as of rn?

[shell basin]

Unless you love the character

Yes current reccomendation is to get Mei and weapon

[frank jungle]

@shell basin

[frank jungle]

Bhai hi

[shell basin]

She’s farmable. If you have meta goals I wouldn’t consider it important but if you don’t you don’t have to reroll in the first place

Worst case scenario even if you don’t get lucky on a new account you can get her from a free box, or from war treasury with a few weeks farming

[frank jungle]

Ohk I m gonna save for my elf girl now

[safe yew]

and from here these ?

[frank jungle]

So no reroll then right

[shell basin]

!faq spendguide

[small willow]

Spending Event Guide

Not sure what to get, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see Professor Mango's guide on what to choose in the current spending event!
-# Also see [!faq spending](#👶beginner-help message) if you are not familiar with spending events.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[shell basin]

If you have meta goals for the near future you probably still want to reroll if you don’t then no need to bother

[safe yew]

what to get from here? dorm first or the crystallum first?

[safe yew]

can someone tell me the best way

which box to get her default form

[supple gazelle]

That's raiden right? just wanna make sure cause there's als the starter character "Mei" 😭. Also, may I ask, which is better: Valkyrie A or B?

[shell basin]

Yeah Xentinel Dawnbearing Crescent

As for A vs B you mean for your free pulls?

Badum is much better to put the 20 free pulls on than vita

[supple gazelle]

the one under the starter banner

[shell basin]

Oh, starter banner, Badum and FDD are very similar

[supple gazelle]

srry, I literally just started minutes ago and have not a single clue abt the game 😭

[low ridge]

How do I farm coins or do they just come naturally

[shell basin]

Prioritize Mei and her weapon but once you do that either choice in starter banner is okay. Just make sure you can get enough kills to guarentee before banner ends because starter also doesn’t share pity

FDD gives ignite utility, grail and roo and LoA support. Badum gives SD utility, grail and WS and LoA support

Both very good

[low ridge]

Fdd = behold fate defying dragon badum = Da-dum! Fiery wishing star

[shell basin]

I would say Badum is very slightly better for newbies rn but if you like FDD better also very justifiable

Yeah

But yeah recommendation is Mei -> Mei wep -> starter banner (only if you can afford to)

Ie if you’re playing actively and farming crystals

Because you don’t want to be 70 pulls in when banner ends

And have nothing to show for it

[shell basin]

Just comes naturally mostly but material expeditions gives a solid chunk

[shell basin]

You should also consider getting a sensei and an invite code for some free pulls and materials

[supple gazelle]

But the pity carries on to the next on battlesuit banner right?

[shell basin]

Not starter banner

Xentinel banner does. Starter and carnival do not

Starter is pretty long so it’s mostly safe but if you don’t finish inside 90 days it’s gone

[supple gazelle]

thanks so much!!

[sullen wigeon]

Why can't I equip her even though I have her on my roster for chap 6

[shell basin]

Part 2 Valkyries can only be used in chapter 1-5

[low ridge]

What should be my team for lunar vow and also when do you think that I will be able to use her for abyss?

[shell basin]

And then in chapter 7 or 8 you stop being able to use any Valkyries

[shell basin]

Luna FDD Mei

[sullen wigeon]

Dang, also is it recc that I go for Mei's banner?

I like the play style but dk meta or no

[low ridge]

Yes

[shell basin]

And should be 10 days until next Luna abyss

[sullen wigeon]

Beginners if grind enough of the story can get enough for her pity no?

[shell basin]

Luna dkey is more niche than Mei but fine if you already own Luna. Gives 10 account wide attack and has a few useful abysses. Mei otoh is more expensive but get way more uses

[shell basin]

Should be

!faq crystals

[small willow]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[sullen wigeon]

Is it guarantee her pity or 50/50

[shell basin]

Guarentee

If you hit pity you get them

If you didn’t get them sooner

[sullen wigeon]

Aight sweet thanks man

[low ridge]

Yeah, she’s the newest character so she’ll have the most used cases || and from the CN speculation it’s looking like she’s gonna have a lot of used cases next patch too because they didn’t drip market a new valk coming next version ||

[lament sparrow]

should i wait for mei weapon to upgrade or just upgrade this then work on mei

[low ridge]

What pity are you at for the weapon?

[lament sparrow]

60 still lol and im still trying to get mei. pity is 40

[low ridge]

Are you a beginner or returning?

[lament sparrow]

returning

[low ridge]

How far along are you into the game? Like how far along are you into the story?

Because I’d say it’s going to be a while until you’re able to get her and definitely a while till you get the weapon

[lament sparrow]

well story is part 2 beginning. got badum kiana and elf elysia 4/4 plus hofi dlc trio + senadina

as part 2 these are all pretty much

ive got some metal resources here

i can make it 65 rn

[low ridge]

#👶beginner-help message

[bright orchid]

zuri will i be able to get HLE + Sig and ||SW DLC||?
im having 1k crystal, my story progression is chapter 17 and before that + chapter 23-25 + ER chapter 1 (completed)
Also Apho 2 not completed, part 2 barely touched

[low ridge]

The link will take you to the messages and you can look at how much permanent crystals you have left because the part two story gives a little over a ten pull so you’re running low on permanent crystals, but maybe you might be able to get me and her weapon because you do have a while left, but you’ll probably have to play the game a lot to be able to do that

[shell basin]

If you can get HLE + wep you can also get ||SW dkey||

There’s enough time even if you’re starting from zero

But you might not manage to get her in time

[bright orchid]

who?

[shell basin]

Depends on how your grinding goes

[bright orchid]

HLE ?

[shell basin]

Yeah

You might fail to get her + wep

But if you do get her you will get ||sw Dkey||

[bright orchid]

i only plan to use her as support

[shell basin]

The hard part is you only have like 3.5 weeks for hle

[bright orchid]

wdym theres no guarantee for that

[low ridge]

Are you a beginner or returning

[shell basin]

||You will have at least 6 weeks and probably 8 weeks to save which is enough to guarentee dkey from zero crystals||

[bright orchid]

returning

[low ridge]

Have you already gotten all of your returning rewards yet?

[shell basin]

||A dkey is 17k crystals and you can get 2.5k or so a week||

[bright orchid]

300 x 4 = 1200 left

[shell basin]

||so 6 weeks between HlE banner and end of silverwing banner is plenty of time||

[bright orchid]

also i might buy the fund

which is 2360 more

[bright orchid]

2.5k per week? that much?

[low ridge]

Yeah, that’s pretty good and you can get you a character selector that you can use for Elysian realm for another 500 crystals

[bright orchid]

i alr owned all of them sooo

[low ridge]

Oh

[bright orchid]

oh but i can squeeze a bit more since most of my valks are at upgrade lvl 9

smh im already struggling at the blue level of the abyss

things might be better once i get HLE but thats like 2 weeks more

[supple gazelle]

Hello! may I ask which team could I do rn? thanks!

[keen trench]

can you choose hi love elf with the log in reward?

[bright orchid]

no..?

[grim tangle]

Is there a way for me to stay in my current abyss and not get promoted willingly

[bright orchid]

thats HoHe elysia

[grim tangle]

Because I cant complete it anymore if I get promoted

[bright orchid]

not HLE

[grim tangle]

Js use durandal

[shell basin]

Yes. Don't clear inside the timer

[shell basin]

!faq fhm

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[grim tangle]

That doesnt give me the extra 100 crystals 🥀

[shell basin]

Yeah there's no way to do that and not promote

[low ridge]

I don’t know it’s kinda hard to say because You do have most of the story left and returning rewards, so I’d say that you could probably get Elysia maybe her weapon but that’s a pretty big maybe but if you don’t get her weapon that pity will save over to the divine key and I heard you say that you’re mainly gonna be using her as a support so if you’re just using her for that the weapons not too much of a difference

But if you do play consistently and finish all of the story, you could probably get the weapon

[bright orchid]

just simply finish 3 stages and leave the fourth stage behind

[shell basin]

wait are we talking superstring or qmanifold

[grim tangle]

QManifold

[shell basin]

yeah. 3 stages is superstring

so ignore that

[bright orchid]

do I really need the weapon though? since i heard people said weapons arent necessary if support

[shell basin]

qmani is just take a longer time on dps

[low ridge]

If she support and then it’s not that necessary

[shell basin]

eh

HLE is one of the supports that really wants her weapon

[low ridge]

It really depends

[shell basin]

she's not useless without it

but she's way worse at supporting

since she can't do stellar drain as easily

[bright orchid]

right. i will try my best

[low ridge]

Omg your right j forgot

[grim tangle]

Me finding out how horrible hle is in multiple cases after pulling her skin

[lament sparrow]

hle released before mei?

[shell basin]

Yes. HLE is 2 patches old

[bright orchid]

yea

[shell basin]

mei is this patch

[low ridge]

Yeah, you’re probably gonna pull for the weapon because the way that hle works is that you need 150 to fully charge up your bow so that you can do your weapon skill and if you have the bow, you automatically get the 150 sp so you can do the weapon skill and ult

[bright orchid]

how long can kira stay in ult

[grim tangle]

When i first joined this game and saw a beginner tuto, it said that banners in this game changes every week, but is that rlly true?

[grim tangle]

Ur gonna use her while shes in ult anyway

[ancient needle]

Not really, you can check the schedule in #💁gameplay-help pins

[bright orchid]

what if i dont

[low ridge]

If you’re referring to the carnival banner, but you probably shouldn’t even pull on that banner because that banner goes away in two weeks

[grim tangle]

Then ult wasted

Thats how it goes for most chars, idk abt her

[ancient needle]

Ye, you just leave the ult after a while

Similar thing with HoO, she casts the finisher if you just sit there

[bright orchid]

should i finish 4/4 superstring if im struggling with this rank already?

[grim tangle]

Where do yall find superstring

[bright orchid]

level up

[grim tangle]

What

Thres a lvl requirement you mean?

[ancient needle]

Superstring Dimension replaces Q-Mani at lvl 81

[grim tangle]

Got a long long way to go

[ancient needle]

Eh

[grim tangle]

Only at 68

[ancient needle]

It takes like a month to get there in total from zero

[bright orchid]

hi
also lvl 1 to 80 is fairly easy

[grim tangle]

I prob take less

[ancient needle]

Well, no reason not to

[grim tangle]

Dpeends, how much crystals do you get for that?

Why miss out on free crystals

[bright orchid]

cuz you cant even clear
also 3/4 is enough for crystal clear reward

[grim tangle]

You asked if you should 4/4 if youre struggling, you didnt say that you cant clear

[lament sparrow]

shes so fun...

[low ridge]

What are your valks

[grim tangle]

Holy flashbang

[bright orchid]

everything is fun in ER

[bright orchid]

Luna + Kira + Eden

p1 playstyle
alt is sena base trio without sig 30% less dmg most of the time

[low ridge]

Those are all your valks?

[grim tangle]

Theres 2 limited time S ranks

[low ridge]

I meant like all your part 2 valks

[grim tangle]

I only ahve one 🙏

[bright orchid]

I have HoHe weapon no Sig
PE no 0/4
DA 0/4

[bright orchid]

yeah

[low ridge]

What rank are you

[bright orchid]

83

[low ridge]

No like abyss rank

[bright orchid]

i kinda went all out on luna and then dipped for a long time (33k crystal at the time)

[bright orchid]

blue 3

almost yellow 1

[grim tangle]

Is that agony

[bright orchid]

idk i play in vietnamese and i cant switch to english

[glad ice]

lmao if we can call them like that, and ig agony is indeed yellow

[grim tangle]

Does the thing give like 320 crystals

[bright orchid]

no
its only like 180 200 iirc

[grim tangle]

Buh

[bright orchid]

oh i switched to english

[grim tangle]

Guys, is it a bad idea to invest in HLE in future patches

[bright orchid]

Its sinful 3

[low ridge]

So I say you definitely should try

[grim tangle]

Yea

[low ridge]

Because it’s pretty easy to climb out of those ranks

[grim tangle]

Red lotus is where it starts to get hard

[bright orchid]

BUT im already struggling
it often takes me 2-3 mins rn

[low ridge]

And can you send a screenshot of your valks

[glad ice]

with p1 valks

[grim tangle]

The hell

[bright orchid]

the team im using?

[low ridge]

No like all your Valks like this

[bright orchid]

I know im brokie brokie dont judge me pls

[grim tangle]

Shouldn't luna alone be enough to complete sinful 3

XDC carried me to red lotus alone

[low ridge]

Are you planning on getting her divine key?

[grim tangle]

Lowk, why is lunas weapon in banner but not her

[shell basin]

luna was free last patch

[bright orchid]

absolutely not. I dont have supports beside i have plans for HLE as stated above

[shell basin]

so no point giving her a banner

[low ridge]

Because of how old she is, she’s not a part two Valk so I don’t think we’re probably ever again going to see a part one fell on a main banner again

[grim tangle]

Shit 🥀

[low ridge]

But who is hle going to support

[bright orchid]

btw this was release luna, not the free luna you talked about cuz that was still my break period from this game

[bright orchid]

||SW DLC||

[low ridge]

Oh

[bright orchid]

you were in this conversation the whole time and you dont remember

[low ridge]

I was AFK for a little bit so I missed that my bad

[bright orchid]

lowkey im kinda cooked but who cares
im here for CEO bronie

[low ridge]

I’d say just try abyss you probably won’t rank up if I’m going to be honest but I feel like if you just do it twice a week you’ll be able to sustain your rank and keep the crystals that you’re getting. I know the crystals don’t seem like a lot. They really do add up.

[keen trench]

what version did hi love elf come out

[spring thicket]

FWS decided to come home in my first carnival 10 pull. her weapon is not on the menu. however, this leaves me with an ether fuel problem for crafting her stigma set. (source prisms I am fine on, I have plenty) so… is there a reasonable way to farm up ether fuel?

[ancient needle]

Well, Mirage is the only reliable source of Fuel

!faq mirage

[small willow]

Universal Mirage

Hi Captain!

See [here](#👶beginner-help message) For the Universal Mirage farming priority list!

Regarding Efficient Ether Fuel Farming (assumes you convert all stones into fuel):

F1: 10 per entry ticket + 0.6000 per 1 TSP
F2: 12 per entry ticket + 0.6333 per 1 TSP
F3: 12 per entry ticket + 0.6428 per 1 TSP
F4: 13 per entry ticket + 0.6500 per 1 TSP
F5: 15 per entry ticket + 0.6666 per 1 TSP
F6: 15 per entry ticket + 0.6700 per 1 TSP - (best efficiency!)
F7: 15 per entry ticket + 0.6600 per 1 TSP

If not using Time Swirl Passes (TSP), F5/6/7 are equal in efficiency.

[ancient needle]

8.5

The official wiki mentions release patches btw

[spring thicket]

that’s what I was afraid of, thanks 🙂

[keen trench]

aah, sorry mb I just started a few weeks ago and haven't played much

[bright orchid]

why do people struggle to get 18k point with XDC and HoFi...?
and they are 4/4 too

[low ridge]

I would kind of recommend if you don’t have attachment to your account probably just making a new account and you can get bronya from logging in for seven days from the new login event. I believe bronya is in it somebody correct me from wrong. And then you will have a ton of crystals from the starter manual and then if you do spend a little, you can get the Level rush, which will give you hohe and I believe 6-7k crystals and if you do that, you could definitely get hle and her gear and || bronyas dkey ||

[ancient needle]

||Silverwing to be exact||

[bright orchid]

CEO bronya is a skin

[low ridge]

Because HoFI doesn’t support xdc

[ancient needle]

They probably just stopped playing midstage

[low ridge]

😭

Ik

[bright orchid]

but i believe XDC 4/4 can carry hard espc its only been sinful 3

[bright orchid]

currently unobtainable too

[grim tangle]

Yes, new acc can give u upto 33k crystals in one week, i can vouch

[low ridge]

Most people don’t know how to do rotations, especially if they’re in that rank or just don’t care

[bright orchid]

anyways i would probably drop the game if i had to hard reset

[grim tangle]

Ppl with XDC and her sign weapon probably wont struggle until red lotus

[bright orchid]

and yet i saw sb did
the irony

[grim tangle]

Sb?

[bright orchid]

somebody

[grim tangle]

He probably doesnt know how to use her at all

My XDC solo carried me upto red lotus

She cleared that too, js not in 120s

[bright orchid]

imo any recent p2 valk does

[grim tangle]

I only have XDC

Got demoted this abyss

[bright orchid]

oh its qmanifold
that mode easy as hell

[grim tangle]

What, your endgame difficulty isnt the same?

[safe yew]

may not be for beginners

[bright orchid]

i dont remember struggling with qmanifold

maybe cuz 4/4 luna lol

[safe yew]

no we have a different modes and ranks. its totally different

[grim tangle]

What does 4/4 mean

[safe yew]

yeah same

[bright orchid]

weapon + full stig

[safe yew]

i also had her back when i was doing that

[grim tangle]

My mei is the same, so ig thats my reason

[safe yew]

3/4 means weaponless but w stigmas and 4/4 means wiith weapon

[bright orchid]

mostly for part 1 valks cuz part 2 stigs can be farmed

1/4 weapon with no stig lol

idk if its just me but 1/4 sounds more tragic for p1 valks

1/4 for p2 is dream

[low ridge]

Well, there’s talking about string fold Q manifold is very easy to clear while on the other hand string fold is a lot more competitive and if you’re using part one valks there it’s probably gonna feel like you’re being jumped by a pack of hyenas

But it does depend

[bright orchid]

*rabid hyenas

I doubt most of the p1 valks can sustain redlotus

Except those with dlcs and idk the trio

[low ridge]

I have like 6 part 2 teams and I was struggling whenever I was returning just to get back to red Lotus

[bright orchid]

Or hyperinvested team
Full 3S, 4/4 with godly stat rolls on stigs + divine key buffs

[low ridge]

@frozen crypt is a hov main in Nirvana but it is a LOT of time and effort

[frozen crypt]

Hi

You can't retain nirvana bosses with p1 teams, I just use HoV to clear mobbing

[bright orchid]

Again thats probably hyperinvested team

[frozen crypt]

Yes it is

[bright orchid]

This?

[frozen crypt]

Yes I have max dkeys and 23x6 affixed HoV

[bright orchid]

lol no doubt

[frozen crypt]

It's not realistic for returnees/new players to have, definitely a fossil thing

I skipped fws to pull more dkeys

For HoV

[bright orchid]

lol thats new

[frozen crypt]

Which for anyone else would be stupid

[low ridge]

She’s dedicated there’s levels to this stuff

[bright orchid]

Anyways the powercreep tho

But make sense cuz to sustain this senior game need characters that sell

[low ridge]

Well, I think the power creep is crazy if you’re returning because you’re stuck with a lot of old characters and you’re not a new player so you don’t have Q manifold you have string fold dimension and all of the new content is centered around astral rings and new characters but the power creep isn’t too bad if you’re an active player because it’s realistic in this game that you can get almost every new valk whenever they release if you do your abyss Elysian realm daily’s

[lament sparrow]

is she still good?

shes in bp so getting her worth?

[low ridge]

If you can’t get her weapon, then using her as a DPS is worthless

[lament sparrow]

lets say i got it

[low ridge]

Oh!

[low ridge]

Can you send a screenshot of your valks

[low ridge]

I mean, maybe it could be an all right DPS but she doesn’t really have any content that is centered around her most of the sd type enemies that you see almost every time elysia is going to be better and if it’s not elysia, it’s going to be Kiana

[low ridge]

But I definitely wouldn’t recommend it saying that you already have 2 sd type valks

Because I literally cannot remember the last time she got a weather

[lament sparrow]

idk what to i get in the shop

thats frustrading

ure right i think theres no need to get her

maybe i just save the balls

[low ridge]

Wait

She might have one use for you

[low ridge]

If you really want to get her, you could use her as the third slot for your Kiana team

Cause then you’d have a whole entire team with heavenly shift

[lament sparrow]

i dont really want to tbh i was just curious if shes still viable or not. ofc shes not useless but shes old enough to be added to bp

[low ridge]

Oh

[lament sparrow]

do we know what we get next bp?

[low ridge]

I don’t know let me try and find out

[quick birch]

|| sleepy teri ||

[lament sparrow]

||ah.. quite boring gameplay idk if shes strong tho or usable with my roster||

[quick birch]

|| you could utilize her DPS shill with your roster but tbh she's kinda niche and not really worth the crystallum imo, imo the same goes for jds||

[lament sparrow]

ah man... lets save those balls then....

[minor dawn]

Is rerolling for the beguinner banner just doing the reduced ten pull or doing the whole finishing chapter one of the guide process and using all the gems on it

[ancient needle]

The former

Also it's better to reroll on Carnival rn

You get 20 free pulls on it

[minor dawn]

Wdym spend crystals on kiana?

[ancient needle]

No

20 free pulls

[glad ice]

when u reach lvl15 which is just easy as finishing the tutorial

u get 20 free pulls. u pulls, no valk, repeat

[minor dawn]

So i do beguinner guide till i reach level 15

[keen trench]

Which Elysia should I choose? Herrscher of human ego or love elf?

I want Elysia that's why

[glad ice]

no love elf in there

[keen trench]

Miss pink elf I mean

[woeful kernel]

Hey guys, i started a new account, i got FWS from the 20 free pulls, should i get her stigmata or focus only on XWC?

[glad ice]

p2 stig are craftable

[keen trench]

I could buy her from the level rush thingie

[keen trench]

Herrscher of human ego

[glad ice]

u will miss weapon but its not worth those xtal at this point

[lament sparrow]

lantern and thelema is also outdated right? do they have niche uses?

[glad ice]

they do

[keen trench]

so who

[low ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[low ridge]

Hohe

[glad ice]

lantern fire tank and thel freeze houdou/0s ss MA

[low ridge]

But Herscher human ego is not usable at all without her divine key, which is not even recommended that you pull on

[keen trench]

what's a divine key if you don't mind me asking..

[low ridge]

It basically makes a part one character part two character

[lament sparrow]

||next patch we get senadina as well but i dont have her weapon maybe i should get her yoyo @low ridge ||

[low ridge]

But it doesn’t make them able to jump or be used in part two story

[low ridge]

|| I personally do not have sena so I do not know how necessary her weapon is but for most characters using them as a support they don’t need their weapon so I’d say maybe save your orbs for something else but if she does need it somebody please correct me ||

[lament sparrow]

||i meant battlepass btw so i can get it with balls||

[low ridge]

I edited it lol

[low ridge]

But yeah, like I said weapons are mostly only needed to use the character as a DPS and there is already a lot of better lightning part two DPS than her

Such as vita,paws and most of all the newest Rita

[lament sparrow]

||there is sleepy teri as lightning dps but i need to watch some showcases about her||

[lament sparrow]

yeah ure right

[low ridge]

|| yea I didn’t even know she was lightning her game play was so boring to me I never paid attention to her ||

[lament sparrow]

same lmao i just found out so wanted to point at it but i think im fine with vita as lightning dps

[minor dawn]

Kiana or vita?

[low ridge]

Kiana

[lament sparrow]

4* kiana elf can compete with new generation astralOP's?

[low ridge]

I think she actually is you will have to get somebody else to confirm, but I’m pretty sure that she’s better than dream seeker in some content

[lament sparrow]

whos dreamseeker?

[outer spruce]

the astral op you have by default

[lament sparrow]

oh

[eternal pond]

How much does the last pull on the gacha pyramid cost? I’m ok the second to last one, still need 1k to do the pull but if I don’t get the costume early I’ll likely need to swipe

[outer spruce]

i think it's 2400 for the last one

9600 total

[eternal pond]

Yea, so either get the skin on the 2k cost, or spend 20$ I don’t have

[outer spruce]

the chances of getting the skin early is extremely low

you should always have 9600 before you start

[minor dawn]

Everything on mei now?

[lament sparrow]

making her SS worth? ||dlc coming so||

[lament sparrow]

also ||if i get silverwing dlc which teammates are her BiS||

[minor dawn]

Also do i get kiana gear

[ancient needle]

In RL and above sure

[ancient needle]

||Looks like to be Vita + flex||

But it's still beta

[ancient needle]

Focus on Mei for now

And tbh I wouldn't get Badum's weap atp, she's pretty old

[faint charm]

Who do i invest in

[dense zephyr]

I just hate having things in my inventory with the notific ation to use it LOL

[low ridge]

Is this a good score rl

[ancient needle]

Doesn't matter this early

[ancient needle]

In general you can refer to this:

!faq fhm

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[ancient needle]

What's the team

Cuz that's a Nirv score

[ancient needle]

Most of these valks are farmable, refer to this:

!faq asterite

[small willow]

Asterite Priority

Hello, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view the Asterite Priority list!
-# Aimed at beginner accounts.

Also see Professor Sairaan's Asterite Sources breakdown [here](#👶beginner-help message).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[low ridge]

What does that mean

[frigid osprey]

#👶beginner-help message also for another beginner advice/guide

[ancient needle]

That's a score one should be getting in Nirv, not RL

(assuming BiS comp that is)

[dense zephyr]

for the q manifold who should I be using ( and preferably units that are worth investing into)
Cuz its an ice dmg bonus and my xdc aint eating it up anymore

[low ridge]

Is that a good thing or a bad thing the team is xdc hle Fdd

[ancient needle]

Badum would be better than HLE

[low ridge]

Don’t have

[ancient needle]

If your XDC is geared you have to keep using her

Alternatives are significantly worse

[ancient needle]

You should be using VBm TA as supps

TA can be bought from the Asterite Shop

[ancient needle]

Then the score should be about right

gj

You can record a run if you wanna be sure

Did you turn off HLE's QTE btw

[lament sparrow]

i have vita so should i get it?

[ancient needle]

Yes

[lament sparrow]

yosh

[dense zephyr]

WHICH SHOULD i erquip ta with

[lament sparrow]

flex spot can be hle or badump kiana?

or maybe new mei

[ancient needle]

Ye

It depends on the boss

[lament sparrow]

if i have geared elf elysia still worth bcs of type right?

bio and SD ice

[ancient needle]

Are the ones on the right CAS-II Namiko

If yes, them, otherwise it doesn't really matter

[dense zephyr]

its cas x

[ancient needle]

Ye, just use the highest ATK ones

[ancient needle]

Yes

[low ridge]

No why

[ancient needle]

It's useless in this case

Just a time loss

[dense zephyr]

which stigmata set can i use? 3 pc marco polo?

[ancient needle]

Does your VBm have her sig set (Tsiolkovsky)

I assume not

[dense zephyr]

oh i thought she was gopnna use fuhua musician*

[ancient needle]

Nah, use that on TA (she's the last in the rot before Mei)

Also it's Glut T FHM MB to be exact

[dense zephyr]

so what should I give her then

[ancient needle]

Glut is in Foundry

On VBm you can use whatever TM Ogier B for now

[dense zephyr]

genuinely what does glu look likt

[ancient needle]

#wiki-consult message

It's in the Basic Stigmata section

[low ridge]

Ok I did some retry’s I think this is good

[dense zephyr]

?

did i do this right?

[ancient needle]

You wanna craft Tsiolkovsky for her eventually

[minor dawn]

I am officially locked now in beginner guide cuz day gated missions what should i focus on grinding the most

[ancient needle]

Prioritize Mei's stigs for now ofc

[ancient needle]

For crystals? Part 1 story

[dense zephyr]

uh, my xdc:

right? is xdc correcty

[ancient needle]

How many Prisms do you have rn

[dense zephyr]

4

[ancient needle]

Any dupe stigs?

P2 ones I mean

[dense zephyr]

uhhhhh

[ancient needle]

Just Mei's in your case ig

[minor dawn]

Also will lunar vow be obtainable any time soon that would make the weapon viable

[dense zephyr]

now i have 5

Yeah I used most of them on lvl ing the ice dps set to 50 and meis to 50

[ancient needle]

In like 9.0 iirc

There also is a box that you can buy for B-chips to get her

Expensive AF tho

[ancient needle]

Though it might be gone atp, not sure

[minor dawn]

So i do get her wep?

[dense zephyr]

was that a bad decision 😭

[ancient needle]

Are you buying BPs? Cuz she'll cost 24 balls in Reserve Works

[minor dawn]

Nope going f2p

[ancient needle]

Yeah, I wouldn't then

[ancient needle]

What Ice DPS set

[dense zephyr]

the free onbe

[ancient needle]

Ah, phew, thought you mean a Part 2 one

[dense zephyr]

did i fuck up

[ancient needle]

Cuz P1 sets don't use Prisms

[ancient needle]

It's fine

[dense zephyr]

WAIT THEY DONT USE PRISMS???

wait does fu hua not use prisms aka I can lvl 50 them all?

[ancient needle]

You can, but it's not worth

[dense zephyr]

having a stroke over this

[ancient needle]

You can max Glut tho

Ah

If you have no mats bottlenecks rn you can go for it

[dense zephyr]

context for what I have atm

[dense zephyr]

what does mats battlenecks mean

[ancient needle]

Bottleneck

ig I didn't use it 100% correctly

I meant that you can do it if you aren't low on materials

Also I'd rather you upgrade Marco Polo, slightly less mat requirements

Cuz alr at lvl 40

[ancient needle]

You can make Tsiolkovsky if you have enough Fuel for that somehow btw

And use that on VBm

Keep it at lvl 35 tho, its upgrades are ass

[dense zephyr]

whats fuel?

[ancient needle]

Ether Fuel

It's one of the currencies used to craft gear in Foundry

Mainly obtained from Universal Mirage, but iirc Starter Manual has it too (idr for sure)

!faq mirage

[small willow]

Universal Mirage

Hi Captain!

See [here](#👶beginner-help message) For the Universal Mirage farming priority list!

Regarding Efficient Ether Fuel Farming (assumes you convert all stones into fuel):

F1: 10 per entry ticket + 0.6000 per 1 TSP
F2: 12 per entry ticket + 0.6333 per 1 TSP
F3: 12 per entry ticket + 0.6428 per 1 TSP
F4: 13 per entry ticket + 0.6500 per 1 TSP
F5: 15 per entry ticket + 0.6666 per 1 TSP
F6: 15 per entry ticket + 0.6700 per 1 TSP - (best efficiency!)
F7: 15 per entry ticket + 0.6600 per 1 TSP

If not using Time Swirl Passes (TSP), F5/6/7 are equal in efficiency.

[dense zephyr]

???

[ancient needle]

Yup, that's it

[dense zephyr]

should i try and clear 7 before i use time swirls

correction i have no idea what time swirls do

[ancient needle]

They increase the rewards you get from clearing (both auto and manually)

[ancient needle]

Not much point rn

If you do don't use TSP there

Use them on F6

[ancient needle]

This chart assumes that you salvage the stones afterwards btw

[dense zephyr]

is tsp more worth on f6 than f7

oh thats funny

[ancient needle]

Fuel-wise yes

[feral pelican]

is calm baby good for FDD

[quick birch]

As a cope weapon just use vbm's signature blazing red, if you're playing a team with both vbm and fdd give vbm her signature and just give fdd a basic weapon

Calm baby just isn't really a big improvement and not with the resource s

[feral pelican]

i use fdd in xcm mei

[quick birch]

I assume your also playing vbm in that team ? Just keep blazing red on vbm then and just use a basic weapon for fdd

[feral pelican]

tbh i didnt have a 3rd slot..

i used free void kiana as a place holder😭😭

u think i should use the vbm

[quick birch]

Yes 100%

[feral pelican]

do u think as a new player i can get HLE and new rita

i got really lucky with my pulls and got mei on 9 pity, got her sig late, FDD with 2 free 10 pulls

and wasted 15 pulls on the beginner banner

bc i wanted badum kiana

and people said to not go further, and now i wanted to get rita but i saw that hle is good teammate for her

i mean i also like her not that i pull only for it, but idk if it’s better to go try go for hle and rita or just full focus on rita

[quick birch]

Both is a bit ambitious but I'd say that one of them should be possible, not 100% sure about hle since her banner is closer but beginner income should be able to cover that.

Now the thing is from a meta perspective I wouldn't really recommend both of them, generally reruns hold less value than new releases since f2ps already can't afford to get every new Valkyrie so they want to focus on things that are brand new and are currently at their peak value.

Also does your Mei have her weapon yet ?

!Faq backpull

[small willow]

What is 'Backpulling'?

Captain! Ai-chan can help!

'Backpulling' refers to pulling a Valkyrie or her equipment (or both!) on a rerun instead of on her release.

For more information on why this is considered damaging to an account for Captains who want to pursue meta in the game, click [here](#👶beginner-help message)!

[quick birch]

Maybe give this a read

Also note that this is competitive advice if you're not really a competitive player just mention that and we'll adjust our advice

[feral pelican]

yup she does has her weapon

[feral pelican]

i would say im competitive, but also i really like the new rita 😭😭😭

i would be able to skip hle, the question is if i would be able to make a good team without her

and if she’s a need

[bitter forum]

is lvl 70 abyss suppose to be hard af for out element teams?

[glad ice]

not really. its just because the whole general difficulty just ranked up from elite rank to master rank (69 > 70)

[quick birch]

She's not really a need in lower abyss ranks per se but she definitely is a good Rita support.

To answer the question if you could build a good team for Rita maybe lets start with the p2 team building basics

!Faq ring

[small willow]

Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain!

Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!

Characters under the Astral Ring System will have one ring type (Specialization), and one or multiple tags (Attributes) that will determine how they can form teams. This system is only activated if a Character with Astral Ring is set as the leader. When activated:

• the leader's ring type will decide the team's playstyle.
• the team will benefit from effects (e.g., Stigmata buffs) that require Astral Ring.
• the team will gain access to Stellar Outburst, a high damage output state you can enter after charging enough energy (Astral Ring Intensity).

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

• World Star - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[quick birch]

Give the guide at the bottom a read

[feral pelican]

also i would be down to buy

the lvl thingy that gives elysia, even tho i know they aren’t relevant now but i think it gives a lot of crystals

like 2 ten pulls

[ancient needle]

Level Rush is a good bundle for crystals, ye

[feral pelican]

well if i can hit max lvl they want

[ancient needle]

Prioritize monthly though

[feral pelican]

i’m 50 rn

[ancient needle]

Easily

[feral pelican]

i tbh rn would buy just that bc idk how much i’ll get into the game and let me tell u once u buy one monthly u cant come back

😭😭😭😭

[ancient needle]

Both can wait

[feral pelican]

i have 4/5 monthlies on 5 different games rn

[ancient needle]

No need to buy either of them rn

[feral pelican]

true

does anyone new val release in the next patch

[ancient needle]

||No new valk next patch||

||Only Silverwing dkey and Youyun AstralOp||

You can check #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins for more info

[feral pelican]

and does the 8.x ends after this or

when we go to 9.x

[ancient needle]

No, we'll have 8.9 afterwards

[feral pelican]

i see

thank u

[ancient needle]

x.0 patches aren't notable

[quick birch]

Tbh even with that both are a bit ambitious, you could wait until like the last week of the hle banner and then ask again with your current crystal count but 2 valks in the spam of 5 weeks is quite a lot. Assuming the worst case scenario you'd need 84k crystals for both Valkyries + their weapon which is a lot even with a beginner income

!Faq rates

[small willow]

The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

• Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k ) vs 78 pulls (22k )
• Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k )
• Worst Case:
• Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k ) vs 150 pulls (42k )

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[quick birch]

Even if we'd assume you get the valk at soft pity + average wep pulls it would still be 60k crystals for both of them

[feral pelican]

every valk in 10
pulls trust

[bitter forum]

there's soft pity? so i'm just unlucky when getting valks with 2 left to guarante?

[feral pelican]

it’s written it isn’t confirmed

[quick birch]

There is a statistical one for the battlesuit banner but it's not a strong soft pity, hitting pity in this game is fairly common hence why we assume the worst

[feral pelican]

idk i like hle (mostly her skin lmao) but her gameplay it’s kinda plain

[keen trench]

Who do I choose from the first top up bonus for hohe?

well I already chose

[ancient needle]

Doesn't really matter (all of them are pretty useless), but the best pick is technically the middle one

All of them are farmable

[keen trench]

I chose the middle one!

[steep lance]

Helloo i was wondering if the astral op songque is worth getting from the spending event ? The only astral op i have is dreamseeker but im kinda broke on materials since im trying to catch up on part 2

[glad ice]

if u plan to spend 40600 songque aop is the most valuable thing in that shop

spending event guide in pin

[steep lance]

Alright thxx

[ancient needle]

This doesn't mean that you should go out of your way to spend that many crystals

Doing more than ~15 extra pulls for that is too risky and not worth imo

[steep lance]

The thing is since im trying to catch up I pull a lot ( there are lot of stuff i hadnt done on my account so i can farm) rn im trying to get badum

I get 2 to three new valks per version if lucky which is why i really dont have ressources

Especially prism and ressources for weapon upgrades

I already have enough to get songque but i dont know if i should get materials instead

Like is songque S better than dreamseeker SSS?

[bitter forum]

dupe stigmatas are for salvaging into cubes right?

[shell basin]

Yes

[tacit moat]

Hi, I'm a returning player. I have this team; can anyone advise me on what team I should build?

I also can't find any information about any tier list

[shell basin]

You can try Sena VBM VBS/FDD or I guess maybe FDD VBm Sena? Neither sound great

[shell basin]

Tier lists are not really viable in this game, Hi3 overwhelmingly favors going wide over going tall

And the lifecycle is such that even if someone is a great pickup on their debut patch

3 patches later only a whale should pull

Most of the time

If you’re asking what to pull instead of what to do with the Valkyries you have that’s a different question

But it depends on what your crystal count and pity look like, and how many 1 time sources you have left

[shell basin]

!faq crystals

[small willow]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[tacit moat]

I had enough for 2 multis and I used them on Mei and luckily i pull her. Now I intended to get her gear.

[shell basin]

Ah yeah. Then you can run Mei FDD VBM and Sena Mei VBm

As two teams

Congrats on getting lucky

[tacit moat]

ty

[shell basin]

Anyway neither of these teams are amazing because Sena is old and Mei would ideally prefer a second symbiosis Valkyrie over VBM but they should both function and they have a fairly decent coverage

Since Senadina is a Lightning Valkyrie she gets stronger on lightning weather, which is also when Mei gets strength down as a physical Valkyrie

So you should have that to cope in lower abyss tiers while you build up your account over time

[tacit moat]

why VBM is so good

is her right?

[shell basin]

VBM is the best free support

And yeah that’s her

Because she is a rite of oblivion character with good buffs

So she’s at least a cope option for every ring and can do things other than fill out leader skill

She’s already reasonably fast (unlike VBS) and can trigger resonance marks for World Star like Sena / RoO leader exclusives for FdD

Which is 2 of the 4 ring exclusive gimmick mechanics

Less good in LoA and Grail but leader skills and buffs and stellar drain still solid

Plus her weapon is free

[amber swift]

what do i do with this if i own them all?

[shell basin]

||We reccomend Silverwing fragments since she’s getting a dkey next patch but HotR is also valid if you have Hofi dkey and no Rita||

[tacit moat]

thanks

[wicked cargo]

||What buffs does Hofi's dkey give||

[shell basin]

pretty enormous ones, it’s the only reason trio and HoO dps are remotely viable and is how Hofi supports WA and ROO

Gives her part 2 mechanics, a bunch of personal damage, and then team damage buffs / bigger buffs for Herrscher of origin leader

[wicked cargo]

oh wait, HoFi is already known. I don't have to hide it Xd

So how is she as a support for Vita dps

[shell basin]

Vita absolutely needs 2 of FDD Hofi VBM

[wicked cargo]

ok but like hofi specifically for vita

[shell basin]

If you have chenxue VBM is sometimes better third otherwise you want hofi p much

Hofi is extremely fast

And can buff while boss is off field

[wicked cargo]

which one is chenxue?

oh the astral op

[shell basin]

VBM has better buffs in stellar outburst and faster stellar drain so she’s sometimes better in 2 ring fights b

[wicked cargo]

I wish dkeys were farmable, she was really fun in uhh realm of battle? I forgot

[shell basin]

But even then she’s usually only barely better

And ofc if you don’t have FDD

[wicked cargo]

Has there ever been history of an astral ring dkey rerunning?

[shell basin]

Yes both HoHE and Hofi dkey have rerun multiple times

[wicked cargo]

Multiple times 🥺

[shell basin]

Yes. Hofi reran in Badum patch, then again in FDD patch, and again in HLE patch iirc

[wicked cargo]

Because my vbm coralie is very close to SSS, I just need another roo. Ideally Hofi because I like kiana

[shell basin]

HoHE reran in Shushang patch and HLE patch

[wicked cargo]

besides speed what else does HoFi's dkey do

[shell basin]

Well it’s generically a buffer for World Star and Trio and RoO but her main niche over other options in WS and RoO is speed

Most Valkyries in part 2 are fairly comparable in actual buffs they give but Hofi is roughly same level of buffs but absurdly fast

[wicked cargo]

I assume blazing instinct is the team buff part?

[amber swift]

i have rita, and i likely wont have the funds to get the next valk. i pulled lv dkey + mei

[shell basin]

Moonrising

You’ll want to look at Iskandar for exact details

Iirc she can use her old stigs, they have mechanics? But Iskandar is free and better

For dkey

[wicked cargo]

I'm really sad these astral ring dkeys don't come with stigmatas with their face on it :((

wow these buffs look crazy

what exactly is joint bursting? Is it a triple herscher thing only?

[shell basin]

||There is no Valk next patch, only Silverwing Dkey and Aop||

[shell basin]

Yeah it’s a HoO and HotR synergy thing

Doesn’t come up for vita or fdd

[wicked cargo]

what tags does the dkey give, its something I never really see on wiki

[shell basin]

Omniescent shadow Star (RoO) and Domain Resonance (WS)

[wicked cargo]

Nice

[alpine mauve]

so uh whats my best quick source of crystals since ive moved up to redlotus and cant beat q-manifold anymore

[shell basin]

!faq crystals

[small willow]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[shell basin]

Part 1 story mostly

But see full list

[alpine mauve]

no storage lowk

[shell basin]

Well u can download 1 chapter at a time and delete old ones but yeah every crystal source takes at least a little storage p much

Elysian realm story also got a bunch?

[alpine mauve]

wait you can delete old ones?

[shell basin]

And you might already have that downloaded

Yeah

Go to resources

[alpine mauve]

where

[alpine mauve]

ooooh

bet

[shell basin]

Happy I can help

[west dust]

Guys, how much impact does the sig. wep for a p2 valk have?

[primal heron]

no % but pretty much what makes the char can be use is their stigma and wep

[grim tangle]

How do u change the valkyrie standing there?

[primal heron]

click the cloud until u can do it

[grim tangle]

Cloud?

[grim tangle]

Oh alr, thanks dude

[primal heron]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-blue-archive-shupogaki-shupogaki-nozomi-hikari-gif-11184516076283000372

[kind cliff]

Is it possible to clear fervent tempo stress test without her 4th core, struggling rn
No sleepers dream too, got an uwu at pri unlocked

[cyan mortar]

whats the hard pity in this game man

whos the best dps in this?

[shell basin]

90

!faq rates

[small willow]

The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

• Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k ) vs 78 pulls (22k )
• Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k )
• Worst Case:
• Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k ) vs 150 pulls (42k )

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[shell basin]

||Right now it’s HoHE if you have her Dkey but next patch Silverwing is getting new gear||

||and then it’s her by a lot||

[cyan mortar]

|| I picked herrscher of flameiscon by accident...||

[lone crater]

|| if alr own both then hohe ranks are better than sw.
hohe more use than sw.||

[cyan mortar]

i am a new player

[lone crater]

i see well u alr used the box?

then whatever no

[lyric anvil]

HoFs is a decent choice?

[lone crater]

its not the worst

[shell basin]

Yeah at least some Ma cope

And she’s an ancient legacy valk

Could be worse

[lyric anvil]

[cyan mortar]

yeah mb...

[lone crater]

i mean its not end of the world

the ones recommended to you are farmable

[cyan mortar]

yeah after all part 1 valk arent good anymore,i should just focus on getting mei

[ashen vine]

Should i keep pulling for luna Dkey or save for SW Dkey?

[shell basin]

Spoiler the ||SW dkey||

Anyway it depends on account details

Who do you have, what is you crystal count and pity, what are your goals?

[pale bolt]

Okay so uh, what should I upgrade first for big pp damage?

I noticed there's barely any good characters guides om hi3..so kinda desperate..

Oh wait... crap sorry I thought I have 1.3 million. Not 13 mil..

[shell basin]

Well eventually you upgrade everything but you can skip evasion and QTE for now if low on coins

[pale bolt]

I was planning to upgrade some and leave a few

[shell basin]

Plus like the time frac on ult

[pale bolt]

Nah I'll do all of it, I wont pull anyone for a long time so. Who cares about mats.

Whats this thing? Should I turn it on or off?

Also why does it show the event time there?

[shell basin]

It’s good for MA. For abyss it depends on the boss

Sometimes you want it off there

[pale bolt]

Ah-..

Well thats nice, no idea when I should keep it on or off.

[shell basin]

You can by default leave it off for abyss mostly, it doesn’t really help there unless the boss has specific annoying animations

But it also often doesn’t hurt

Unless you’re delayed on a boss action for a transition or something

[grim tangle]

If ur not too attached to ur current account, then you can start anew

[shell basin]

I wouldn’t make a new account

[grim tangle]

Not a bad idea because youll be careful about your resources

[shell basin]

Just for a free box

[grim tangle]

I would, but I also dont wanna lose the ely skin

[shell basin]

Especially since you’d be giving up whatever abyss and Elysian realm crystals you earned

Over the last few days

!faq ches

[small willow]

Not Giving Advice is better than Wrong Advice!

Hi Captain! Sorry to cut you off...

Ai-chan recommends that you leave the advising to more experienced captains, but we appreciate your enthusiasm.

If you aren't sure if the advice you want to give is correct, please wait for others in the channel to answer instead. You wouldn't want to be responsible for someone making a huge mistake!

[grim tangle]

Js noticed the pfp of Ai-chan

[drifting heath]

should i use these? my stamina keeps running out just from playing through the story, kind of annoying

[shell basin]

Yeah that’s what they’re for

No need to save them

You don’t unlock better farming stages later or anything

[grim tangle]

It doesnt go beyond 240 tho

Unless it does

[slim blaze]

Stamina can overflow u know

[shell basin]

You can go above 240 but it lowers your gain

[drifting heath]

i was wondering if its gonna be like a "fragile resin" situation

thats why i asked

[shell basin]

Nah Hi3 stamina way different

[outer spruce]

we don't really use stamina like that here

[slim blaze]

You have an excess stamina reservoir