#š¶beginner-help
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np
does any of these event have spoilers
I tried short ring and got this score
Still improvement can be made
Like I was standing for a few secs after the orb collection mechanic š
Some questions
For the phase change mechanic I have some questions
Like for the party I just switch to paws and spam her ba, wa and ult i think I'm doing it for more than required
How to know you have fulfilled the requirement for the mechanic
For the mechanic where you have to collect orbs, I just spam dash on paws
Is there a faster way
no to all
the ely ones do like to make hints based of the characters interactions in ely realm story but nothing to worry about
arcade doesnt even have a story
also it isnt possible to convert crystals into supply tickets right
i think thats cn only, at least its not in glb
I thought you couldn't at all 
Though probably wouldn't matter if they made the cards cost 280 xtals each
orb collecting stop timer so u dont have to rush, as long as u can collect all within the duration
So I returned to the game after the first patch of Part 2. I have 4/4 for HLE, Sena and the A ranks. I'm considering getting the BP for Thelema. Which Part 2 Valks are good? Also would the HorB DK rerun be good?
I would skip BP, MPS isn't that impactful even with weapon and she does nothing without weapon.
In general value is very flat with P2 valks so there are no big standout performers. Performance decreases with age so backpulling anything is pretty heavily discouraged as it is never worth losing the current on banner valk for it.
HoRb with dkey also only really sees use on her bosses so I would skip at this point
i'm curious how essential weapons are to the game and this is a hard question to ask since it's very heavily based on my own perspective that i've noticed is quite niche but to attempt it, I only care to max out rewards and doing so I don't care for being some god who has insane overkill, big numbers dont excite me in fact I kinda hate ever feeling op, for example if the "final endgame wave" (speculative idk this games endgame yet) says clear in 3 minutes and I clear in 1 that doesn't do anything for me i'm perfectly fine with clearing in 3 minutes on the dot and would even prefer it.
I would rather not pull weapons unless that literally makes my stated aim unobtainable
weapon is must have for dps and maybe-not-so important for support. part2 gacha changed so that it is easier to get weapon so it is considered as default requirement
also once you reach level 81+,abyss changes from q manifold to superstring dimension. clearing in 3 minutes won't be the goal anymore, the goal will be to beat the boss fast against other people in your leaderboard bracket
ah so theres a competitive element to this one?
something to note about abyss (main endgame mode where your own valks/gear matter) is that the difficulty of it is based on player performance
if your goals are competitive and looking to get to higher ranks (mainly redlotus which is easily achievable for f2p players for the highest crystal income outside top 100 server)
to score higher you will need to outperform other players in your bracket, and not having a valkyrie's gear will put you at a disadvantage
endgame is competitive yes
weapons are very important to the point where most people will tell you not to pull unless you can pull the weapon also
I would consider RL retain as pretty close to impossible without weapon on dps unless you have very good bracket luck and are willing to mald a lot.
A2 to A3 bounce is realistically where I see someone land without weapon but may be lower
actually even a3 is slightly unrealistic without weapon
disturbance is much higher now
Ok, understood well I guess I may have to then, I just dont yet understand the draw gains economy of the game yet and having to pull a new valk and their weapon seems quite costly to do every single version
assuming max pity no luck
keep in mind patches are 8-10 weeks, f2p rl players make around 2-3k per patch (depending on their situation and available crystals)
so you are looking at around 20k per patch, to garuntee a unit and her weapon at max pity, it will cost you 40.6k crystals (assuming its the debut valk who always has a discounted 10 pull on her first banner)
now are you always going to hit hard pity? no (dont look at my gacha history, even though i've hard pitied every banner this is not the average case)
so you are able to garuntee a valk + her weapon every 2 patches, otherwise you have decent-high chances of being able to garuntee back to back valks depending on how lucky you get
even a single 10 pull earlier is huge
rl?
redlotus
2nd highest rank (nirvana is higher but the difference between rl and nirv is literally 40 crystals per week)
well if i really love the game i'll definitely have a permanent uptime on the monthly card if that means anything the login bonus
Am I still in a long way on finishing the genealogical quest
then it just depends on your goals, if you are planning on being competitive then you are going to have higher crystal income to help you with such competitive goals
keep in mind skipping is not something to see as a negative, unless you are a whale, you will inevitably skip a banner
just have to be mindful of what you are skipping and pulling
you wouldnt wanna pull a niche unit with limited use over a strong unit with more use cases
what should i get here
all of these dkeys are available in the bp reserve shop ||soeae getting added to it next patch||
so you can either choose to hold onto it until you need the atk boost (or in the future might prefer using that reroll device)
or if you want to use the box now, soeae as its not currently farmable
might of an uwu has the advantage of 2x sync (with 2 other free dks)
its only +10 atk like the other dkeys*
sync1 is from pistol + cleaver
sync2 from utu + any
i saw another +8?
this is where my "I don't wanna pull weapons" thing comes in though I am a story player with everything I touch to me games are entirely experiences about making memories and enjoying new perspectives about life (artsy rant about the importance of literature to the human experience) anyways I would rather get every single character because the reason i even like to play in the first place is to "play as who I like from the story" to put it into more understandable terms in a fighting game which i play several competitively I don't pick based on archetypes or meta or mechanics I pick based on my emotional investment, and I enjoy playing as them regardless of their mechanics because to me thats irrelevant
understandable hence why I emphasized "IF you have any competitive goals"
its up to you how to move forward
weapons are a must if you plan on being competitive, but if that is not something you are attracted to, then pull as you feel necessary
i have this too, is raiden mei good? i only have hle as my built dps character
ok, i'll see how I feel when i get there i'll really have to feel it out i guess since it seems really unique here
however I will clarify from now that your own valks are only usable in endgame content
story/events and other similar activities provide you with trial valks where needed
and current p2 units are only usable in the p2 chapters
!faq egg
Hello, Captain! 
[Click here](#š¶beginner-help message) to see the in-depth explanation of what to choose!
Ai-chan recommends that you keep this egg until you have two from the following: Shadow Knight, Sixth Serenade and Goushinnso Memento. When you own two, unlock the one you are still missing.
now that been asked about the concern of dorm S+ errand i would recommend u to save the egg/box
oh so just save it... thank u
was that locked behind owning utu (for sync lvl2)?
dorm S+ errand give u xtal but they will require valk's qualities. if u lack some amount of quality u can open the egg/box for the valk that add to that quality
only image I could find, but it could be level locked instead of sync locked
I would've remembered if it was sync locked tbh but now I want to verify 
well it's an energy boost and those are level locked
though I will say majority of S+ errands also require ranks on the valks to boost their qualities
base S give 8 quality, base A 4
and u get +2 each rank up
no point trying right?
iirc someone else struggled a lot on this boss with this team comp, so yeah
Straight up not enough damage
If you wanna improve for the sake of improvement you still can record a run 
okay nah i spent 50s not getting thru the first hp bar lmao
I suggest you don't continue upgrading RC's weap btw
but yea i can record a rotation to check if im doing anmything wrong ig
And focus on having enough Shards for 8.6's and then VBm's
yea im just not upgrading my supports anymore, unless i need to for vbm?
You'll be using VBm for a very good while, quite worth as long as your DPS's weaps are maxed
yeah it was pretty impossible, i dont think i could even get it half done in 240s with ba4 cancels lol
and 250 asterite is so not worth the time even if it was possible
btw how is bouncing benefit more xtal?
this looks like even if i f7 on redlotus it'd be worse than if i stayed at agony f10 hmm
or is it finalization rewards?
there's no way to get the xtals without promoting
that's still put you at minimum clearing f3 to benefit right?
it's better to skip the boss in agony if you wouldn't be able to clear past floor 3 but that's only really a problem if you're moving up from elites to masters
suspicious math actually
yeah i think you're safe to just go as far as you can
how to get p1 valks sig weapons for example base elysia i cant find her weapon in foundry its only on the bp shop how can i get it?
mpe's weapon is in exchange shop
260*2 = 520
360+100 = 460
or am i missing sth
yeah you're right
and what exactly do i need to get its currency
but i dont think you're gonna be in that situation
of being able to promote into rl but not clear floor 5
almost wasnt able to clear f5 last reset
craft bounty weapons and convert them
someone here couldnt clear f3 but can somewhat clear f10 agony
idk, is bouncing really that good if u cant consistently clear f5?
i think you are going to lose more xtals to fear than that situation actually happening
if you have to play on mobile or something for a week when you usually play pc maybe it's better to tank
Guys question, I am thinking about buying hercher of reason from the store as I don't have any good first part valkery of that type (mech), and with Elysia shop I can level her up. Also as I really need good part 1 valekeries and I'm working only with Hercher of void, and Hercher of truth and finality over here
TA,SI, RC should work fine for anything which requires p1 in my experience.
Ma? Well mainly do those challenges you can't use part 2 valekeries and stuff you know ^^
HoR is definitely not an upgrade
how much does it give for converting one of them
1k
well you do get soe:ae this patch
Yes, I am still pretty sceptical that it is better. What team would you run?
hor rc/jk/kira or something
Could give JK Nebs if they're a new player
actually idk hor's lead skill
also anything i should change in the rotation? (kinda cooked stunlocked at the start)
https://streamable.com/mk43r6
ok yeah hor lead way better than the others
The latter effect isn't that much useful
it doesn't apply to herself? seems like it would
is rein solaris good
She is not worth pulling
Sorry had to go eat, anycase was actually worth buying from war treasury?
yeah it's fine, have you gotten your discounted s-ranks from dorm
who should i save for
next patch valk ||miss espionage||
when is she oyr and what does she do
Meh? Yeah, even a accidental Kiana Hercher of finality at early pity
Me*
perfectly fine to buy her then, just don't get valks that aren't in er
attack š
Ok š
you can eventually get the others but after getting all the er valks + ranking enough of them to ss so you don't miss s+ dorm errands ever
Oh yeah the dorm, I need level up mine and get more valekeries as I have struggles to have enough
She is out in the start of january and is ||IMG lightning dps with WoD ring and will get at least 25% of weathers on her release patch.|| For more detailed info it is generally better to consult #š®cn-gameplay-discussion
Yo
https://youtu.be/8sxxe_NrGjQ?si=aFbDw6iakaGP9gan
Here's a vid of a run I did
Instead of switching to vbm them paws to qte hle i accidentally swapped to paws first leading to vbm being onfeild for a lil longer at 2:00
Also at 2:30 i somehow thought the orb phase would be starting that's why I blanked for a sec there
Other than that I tried my best
So what changes could I make
Other than the device and 30 fps
how much crystals does the entire story give (including part 2)
Honestly Mech has the weakest collection of valekeries for me term of gameplay, most of them I just don't like to use that much :/ no hating on them just personal opinion
That kinda why I want her as I do like using her
I'm confused b/w hothunder, da and sushang
All of em are cool design, character and kit wise
I'll just hold on until I unlock elysian realm the correct way, i.e. get to chapter 25
Here
The crystals from story
for vbm you gain 1 hammering feel for hitting with basic and lose 1 hammering feel for hitting with wa, you need to get 3 stacks from consuming hammering feel with one of them being the stomp wa with 3 explosions, alternatively you can hit the enemy with ult (actually has to land) but only ever do this in the opener since you can make up for how slow it is by starting it a little before the boss is targetable. as for paws she has two ways to apply buffs, ult and qte, with only ult consuming stellar drain. i saw you use her ult after qte when you already consumed stellar drain which does nothing. hle you should really avoid casting ult at less than max stacks and you generally want to do an ult before wa since it skips sp farming but it depends on when you would get the cooldown back (and ofc just use the wa if you have less than 150)
you might also need to double wa on vbm even if you ult but not sure
Oh the paws ult after qte
Thanks for this
It's what I always did before learning how the kit works so didn't even register I was doing that
Hmm
Lemme read the vbm part again
Btw avoid hle ult at less than max stacks meaning when you can't charge to max
I.e. don't have 150? Sp?
yeah
if you really really need to rush outburst you can do it but it loses a lot of damage
Hmmm i didn't pay much attention to that part
Ik it feels real flimsy without charging to max but didn't pay attention to sp
Hmm gotta not use vbm ult then
Really is slow
I think I can get 600s with this
by really need to rush outburst i mean you overkill with it so getting it faster is all that matters
Thanks for the help 
Second SO is also pretty questionable as you first buff with VBm and then immediately press SO which reapplies the buff
it was relevant on kalpas but i don't expect it to generally be
Oh i forgot to read the so effects
Are all buffs reapplied in so for my team?
SO reapplies buffs as a baseline assuming the valks fit the astral ring
I also think I could have held the second so until like after the orb collection thing
What do you think
I seee
Gotta keep this in mind too
I see
So generally give a bit more attention to sp
watching a bit more
after wa your next ult has timestop so outside of ring you always max charge it, you skipped the ult to outburst
the paws combo after parrying with her is useless
you also usually max charge ult after wa in ring but maybe there are situations where you wouldn't, haven't come across any
Energy (stellar outburst one) overflow scares me
I'm getting 2 so either way so i should just control myself to hold them when I get the most value then
Hmm so I can skip the paws combo tooo
I thought I was at 3 stacks might as well š girl did no dmg but understandable due to all the reason
Btw it's fine to just keep paws onfeild for the entire parry phase right?
Did I not max charge ult in ring?!
I didn't intend that
i didnt watch you probably did max charge, i was just mentioning it
Ah okay
Thanks for the advice
Gonna try again after understanding all these stuff better
i thought the new valk would be released today, instead its the rerun xD when is she coming?
After the current banner ends i think
The patch still has 4 weeks left iirc
New year then?!
oh damn then shes coming on the big spending event right? i was worried that i would have to pull before it for her,
No clue
More info should be in #š®cn-gameplay-discussion
which astral ring does hohe support? and would getting her new weapon and gears be worth for an acct with HLE, PS, Thelema when i plan to pull next patch
wod/loa/goi, not worth pulling
What's the difference between awakened Psy types and psy types ? Are the awakened better ?
(I was looking at sixth serenade and phoenix and spotted this thing)
Awakened valks are an old subtype of battlesuits which they stopped making long ago
Awakened/non-Awakened only matters in regards to the amount of frags needed to unlock/rank them up and the fact that Awakened and the respective non-Awakened valks share certain skill levels
The last Awakened valk is PE, and she's more than dead
And Hoyo explicitly mentioned that they won't be releasing more Awakened valks
Also another question, why is spina astera and silver wing nex costlier than palatinus equinox even tho Palatinus eq needs more fragment and was released after these (in war thresory)
The costs can be quite arbitrary at times
Pe is Palatinus ?
Yes
A
Is anything interesting to buy in war treasury ?
Because it seems to one of the costliest
Not to actually use, but for indirect benefits
Check "War Treasury" in the pins
None of the valks there are useful as actual valks
A
how do i get more of these?
PS or hohr for this week abyss?
War treasury or reserve works
You should unlock her by buying the character first before going for fragments as the cost for fragments is higher.
The weather is Phys
alright... where do i buy her?
arent both of them phys?
War treasury
Yeah lighting empress being costlier than HoT doesn't make sense too
both of them are phy
Ah, you meant HoRb
Thought you meant HoHE
Should be PS
i looked it up but i can only get that at level 38
while im level 31... how do i get more xp?
Clear story use stamina and clear daily missions
So about this sincerest affection DK box , should I pick star of eden or things have changed?
||SoE:AE will be added to Reserve Works next patch and other dkeys in the box alr are there||
AF and FHD require craftable counterparts for you to get the +10 ATK
Essentially you can pick any dkey, but ideally not AF or FHD
Who should I choose?
None of them are used for meta and all of them are farmable. You could look at the war treasury to see if any of them are more expensive than the other, or I think Fallen Rosemary has a stress test so she might be technically the most valuable?
Stress test ?
Itās a set of stages where you can only bring a limited list of battlesuits. Clearing them gives you materials and (eventually) 1 summon ticket
is it better to play steam or hoyo client?
iirc the server u end up playing in is the same, but topping up is slightly different or something
@quick birch
!faq steam
Hello, Captain! 
Playing Honkai Impact 3rd on Steam has both benefits and drawbacks! No matter what other captains say, please decide if it's for you or not!
** DRAWBACKS **
- Cannot link a Hoyoverse account to your game account. This means no HoyoLab features (like daily check in), no twitch drops, and discord linking to Hoyoverse accounts does not work either. Anything that needs a Hoyoverse account does not work.
- No Crossplay, you can only play through Steam so you cannot play the same account on mobile or use any launchers.
- No Hoyoplay launcher, which lets you play most of your Hoyoverse games from one single launcher.
- Can only play on the Global (EU/NA) servers.
BENEFITS
- Harder to forget your login, you have to lose your Steam account to lose your HI3 account. It is still very possible to lose your Steam account, but as long as you have access to your Steam account you have your HI3 account.
- You can use your Steam wallet to top up.
- Steam tracks your hours played (some custom launchers do this too for those with Hoyoverse accounts.)
For many captains the lack of Hoyoverse account features and lack of crossplay is a dealbreaker, but it's up to you how you plan on playing!
i see, thanks ^^
oh no twitch rewards, if they did the thing where it asks u to stream for xtal thats a big L lul
speaking of which when next twitch reward, im broke
is topping up with steam wallet cheaper tho
Nah
You can theoretically just top up by selling other steam collectibles for example, the only real difference tbh
get to that csgo trading
Whatās the fastest way to get more coins
selling unneeded weapons
any suggestions what should i put in as 3rd(out of characters that would be available to someone who started to play very recently) in team of HLE(with weapon), FDD(no weapon tho), also got Chenxue in astral op if that changes anything
either vbm or something like ta or rc
Any symb character you have, like PS or Badum if you got them from carnival, otherwise VBM for sure
Since VBM can let you do a full two cycles in SO
whelp, VBM it is then
You know the rotation there?
no is it anywhere here or?
Basically, go VBM, wa wa jump attack WA, QTE FDD, EWA, ult, qte HLE, Hold ult, WA, Hold ult, alternate basic attack sequence and hold ult until VBM buffs (orange circle with a 3 inside) almost wear off, then go back to VBM to jump attack WA and refresh them, and repeat
You can refrain from applying the buffs if stellar outburst is ready, since that automatically applies them without needing to switch
In stellar outburst, you go wa wa hold ult, QTE FDD, EWA, Ult, qte HLE, Wa wa hold ult finisher
And remember to turn VBM QTE off, it wastes time.
Thereās a couple of techs you can sometimes do depending on the run, like using VBM ult at the start of the battle or not ending stellar outburst instantly so you can do a few basic attacks
But in general thatās what youāll do
thanks, is it worth upgrading VBM weapon or should i just keep it at something lower? and i assume there is no way in hell of clearing 70-80 q-manifold with this team right?
VBM weapon is worth doing if you have spare Honkai shards but itās lower priority than HLE or Rita wep
So prioritize having enough for those first
Same deal with her stigmas, theyāre nice to craft and have at level 35 but less important than HLE / FDD / Rita stigmas
Valkyrie Blastmetal?
Yes
Sheās the best free support
Wait deadahh?
That's nice
Is she only good for that like ring team
Ring of something
Whatever she synergizes with forgot the name of it
In rite of Oblivion she is nearly BiS even counting gacha battlesuits
In other ones sheās just better than everyone you donāt have to pay for
(For Vita dps sheās either the third best or second best support, depending on the boss and run, for FDD sheās either 4th or 5th)
Newbies should expect to use her all the time for 2-3 patches until they have more options and still sometimes after that. so definitely worth building her.
Would it take about 48 hours to get story quests done
no
it's much longer
Like full time playing for 48 hours
we are talking hundreds of hours long
please dont play 48 hours straight
Are there any skip buttons
Or options to skip certain events and still get rewards
Yes but itās still long even if you skip
yeah you can skip story
Because you still have to do the fights
I minds as well try to enjoy the story
Thing is I only play gacha games to gamble cuz I don't have much time to allocate to a story
Thx for info tho
NP
you can also find the story on youtube if you want
Oh yeah btw I'm still not good at team building so what's the best team I can make with these chars
lantern simp vbm or simp lantern vbm
Lantern simp Valkyrie Blastmetal or simp lantern vbm
they both have weapon?
If either simp or lantern has weap use that one
Who is lantern simp
Lantern is lone destruction shadow chaser
Ah
Simp is Schicksals imperative
Thanks also I never pulled for weapons
Then yeah theyāre both a little cooked as dps but thatās still the best team probs
You can get blastmetal weapon from part 2 story at least
For free
Very early on
Ok good to know
Wait I forgot is simp supposed to be played as a support for lantern
Or are they the DPS and lantern the support
Leader is the dps, other two are supports, in part 2 (almost always, HoHE is a bit diff)
So if simp is the leader theyāre dps
not having weapons is really bad if you care about abyss ranking, can you afford 8.6 at least
If lantern is leader theyāre are dps
Never tried abyss
Thereās a lot of crystals in abyss
Meta players can get 3-4 pulls a week from it at high levels
But even lower power players shouldnāt ignore it
That's nice income
abyss and er are the vast majority of your income you can't really ignore them
unless you whale a lot
what do i do with my duplicate stigmatas help, who should i equip them to
I'm getting overwhelmed with the game and i think im progressing too fast im level 55 rn and the only well built character i have is elysia
u salvage
fr? is it not good for other characters?
nope, p2 stigs and like 1.5 onwards more like, has been focusing more and more on 3pc stigmata effects, when it came to p2, it just basically become only for the intended char
Some stigmas can be a very cope option for other battlesuits but those battlesuits arenāt used either and definitely arenāt used with cope gear
P2 stigmas have 90% of their effects for only one battlesuits
ohh okayy thank youuu
Hi I have a question. Iām not sure who to get in the asterite shop.
I'm considering a few factors but I don't know which is more important:
- Whos meta
- Whos good for characters I like
- Whos a character I like
the ones in asterite shop r all pretty useless metawise
but u mainly unlock them all/get them upgraded for passive bonuses
Valkyrie Blastmetal is the priority to get to SSS, sheās the only one with any real meta use
Unlocking and ranks on VBS, TA, Kira, and RC might not be useless as well, they have some MA usecases even without real gear and occasional cope teams for new players
Everyone else is for dorm levels and Elysian realm unlocks
See also here: #š¶beginner-help message
ma usecases r not rly real with no gear but yea mainly just vbm that has any use
For newbies they might end up using say TA on Kallen
Itās barely anything but not literally nothing
yea but im just saying the score is gonna be giga trash and atp anything they use that can deal dmg is about the same
Yh
@low ridge I got her weapon before I uninstall honkai impact
can i only convert p2 stigs into source prism? or is there another use for them (duplicate ones of course)
They have no other use then being converted
Vita VBM VBS should be able to brute force mirage?
Kallen is non-phys immune. You can clear with Vita or SSb from health loss on enhanced basic for vita
enhanced basic takes too long
Why do you need to clear physical f6 right now? And can you use someone like terminal aide?
for the gray crystal thingy
i dont have her
What do you need gray crystals for?
base elysia stig
Hmm. Well, if youāre really in a rush to get it you could try building a phys team, and buy Terminal Aide from the asterite shop for it
what exactly does she do iirc doesnt she only break def
she does physical damge
Terminal aide has a bunch of strong buffs and shield break and more relevantly here does physical damage
and hence can kill the boss 
i dont think she can clear solo
u can give it a try
You could run like Vita VBM TA, use vita to clear the mooks and Vita + VBM to buff TA?
And then Ta vs Kallen
I think that ought to work, VBMās buffs at least apply and Vita leader means you can have dreamseeker
Who has a damage buff vs typeless at SSS
In addition to being generic damage buffs
I donāt have Vita but I can try it with paws, 1 moment
small issue
Wait no Iām stupid I already used up my invitations
i dont have vbm
Sheās free. Part 2 story, or asterite shop
Sheās also the best support for Vita by far you could get
well uhh i can only afford one of them
its going to take ages for me to get to p2 but whatever
P2 is unlocked by default
Itāll take like 10 minutes to clear the bit you need for VBM + wep
And it doesnāt have P1 spoilers until ch 3 which is way after you need
yeah i know it just that i wanna experience everything in right order
In that case uhh screenshot what Valkyries you have
And Iāll try and come up with a cope phys team for you
You could try Terminal Aide Reverist Calico and Starry Impression
Or maybe MPE over SI if you donāt have the XP
To level up both her and TA
TA + RC buff the psy character do deal with the mech enemies and then TA or the psy character deal with Kallen
Could work
aight thanks
Did a recheck LP is just possible with VBM, RC but pretty tight. May be a problem at lower level as you don't kill the earlier wave fast enough
They donāt have VBM
And donāt want to get her
So prolly cooked
Well yeah I reccomended that because I thought itād be more helpful to get yeh character that was free for free.
Do you think itāll work with no VBM ranks or weapon?
well i mean if only buying vbm works i can just get her rn
Iād guess no if it was tight with weapon but maybe
i didnt buy ta yet
i still have around 2 minutes (or even more) when i reach to kallen
holy i improved my last score by 200
Anyway you could buy VBM and try using her with Vita and RC / VBS, or you can try MPE / VBM / RC, or you can buy TA and do one of the things I suggested before
why does everyone and their mother have dudu, PS and jD??????
Dunno which of these will work
For this to work you need to be above 2:30. SI also gives about a 1 minute extra leeway for me over RC since she actually deals phys damage but that is higher atk + SS SI
What team do I use for this abyss I donāt have any physical
Sleep.
You could try FDD dps or HLE dps but probably neither retains
No type advantage or weather bonus
Maybe if youāre in A3 and lucky bracket?
But anyone with RS or Trio or PS or Horb or maybe even just fish is gonna outscore if they know how to play
Fish is JDS or what valk are you thinking about?
fish is jds yes
tbh for the other non rs physical to score well they'd need to be ranked (at least in rl)
so brute forcing might be a retain in lower ranks
well if it helps from testing
ss ps, tfm, fdd > ss ps, s2 lp, fdd > s2 horb+2, fws, hofi > s2 hofi, ss hoo, ss hotr > jds, lp, mps > jds, lds, mps
this is what I got from my testing
by ranked you mean s1 and this also applies to nirv right
depends on the unit, imo s0 ps/s2 horb are the best non rs options (either way no rs in nirv = cooked)
if ps has ranks she is better than s2 horb
yeah I scored pretty okay with just PS Badum FDD. Not good but could be worse
trio is another option if its very invested (older players)
s2 hofi might just be shit compared ot smth like ss/ss1
ig ss3/sss hoo would also be a considerable boost to trio score
ye I need to try that team as well
slightly worse than tfm, though ig that makes sense
i scored 300 with horb and 530 with hle
was horb ungeared?
no
what team?
horb hle sena
300?
do you have someone other than sena
fws no weapon
since I dont think she has physical breach
alos i just realsises she doesnt
should i do 4% phys or crit for gene
is that the phase 2 thing where you have to deflect his attacks?
yes
also ur name is so real stop the paws payola
deflect 3 times and get dmg buff
each time you deflect one of his 3 attacks, it takes off 1/3rd of his seed hp (the smaller hp bar on top) and deflecting all 3 gives a damage buff
I think so
im gonna do a run rn anyways so if didnt ill let you know
but im 99.9% sure it did
nvm maybe not
it does
i tried doing it with hle and got smacked around
i see, yeah i wouldnt know cuz all my units were melee
oh ye ingame it mentions melee
horb does better than trio and hle for me
for me too
ngl horb fws hle feels kind of.... eh
but why'd my score drop that much from switching hofi to hle
either horb hofi hle or horb hofi fws
wish i had hofi dlc
90 score diff is crazy
my run gets messed up everytime by something different
do you at least know how to play it?
like i got 520 because my horb didnt have enough sp to use ult in so, and my next so was late
ehhh
not enough sp for ult in so? huh
her ult takes 75 sp i think i used ult right before so

so i didnt have enough
ill record a run, its not gonna be "omg insane top 1%" kind of run, but should help get an idea what you can do
also my so rotation is hle start, do her thing, fws does hers, then horb
so just ds?
yes
nirb vid to apply. u prob match dmg without needing so or somethng like dat
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1bPk9BBEHo/?spm_id_from=333.788.top_right_bar_window_history.content.click&vd_source=0c55e9eeea7f01cd7949940b979fafe9
om insane top 1%
why is ur attack so high??
yeah outfit so high as whell
outfit + 999
ur doing so much more damage than me
im only missing 1 dkey, near perfect atk affixes
again, you are in agony 3 you might be able to do something similar to what im doing in rl
just because of the disturbance diff
everything got weap + stig?
this isnt meant to be 100% copied, but rather a ref
u should match or outdmg
such as noting when I use my so, how I apply buffs etc...
there is the bilix2 nirv run sent as well if you cant match
oh ive been using horbs weapon skill so wrong..
ik when im playing on diff accounts, guy maybe has 1300 atk, but copying ios rl ref, which is like 20d higher, the dmg basically matches, even tho ref is 120 atk higher
so u should be fine yea
even if no fws weapon and she has underleveld stigs?
well thats why i was saying a bit at the start, do u have a full team with everyone with weap and stuff
but u dont need to copy exactly not like u can
i have the team in the vid but fws is chopped
but u get the idea
ws supports dont do mcuh dmg, they just a tool
as long as horb is geared you should be fine
guys do i use jds or ps for this abyss weather?
ps
alrr
I found better results with her compared to jds at least
jds wod dps is....
(assuming you dont have rs ofc)
there were times when she shined, but those times are over
no bug for u
fish skip too op
why dont u have WS aop?
hoyo hates all the tech that makes f2ps score well 
||they're killing ba4 cancel too||
who for
hle
isnt next patch cny
better to remember it as patches are 8-10 weeks and cn is 4 weeks ahead of glb
since cn is entering 8.7 on feb 6, it only makes sense that for cny (which starts mid feb) to also be in 8.7
rightt i was thinking of glbl servers
it used to be similar for both since patches were just 6 weeks
but longer patches screw with things a bit
the next hsr patch is looking like hi3 length all of my games r gonna be so dry
its 40k crystal to garuentee full gear right
40.6k to garuntee on debut banner (1.4k crystal discount 50% off)
otherwise 42k to garuntee
r we getting spending event?
i like candy
im not pulling in hsr for 3.8 so my gacha funds are all for hi3
me 2
gib marshmallows
hope you have a lot of story
since they removed difficulty modes i forgot if they moved those crystals into story itself or those just disappeared
would be funny if it was latter
i think they did
theres 30 xtals if you clear all stages full star in a specific set of stages
that i think was always there, so i just need another fossil to confirm waht happened
they moved it (xtal of hard/nightmare mode) into starter manual
there are reward for x/x star earned as well
thats some qol there
now they deont get to expeireice getting tapped by the hard challenge mobs

was it nightmare or extreme, idr what it used to call
i dont really rmb exactly. but u got the idea, just hard mode and harder mode
saying they moved it is not really correct too. they remove this and add that, which make it easier to get those xtal (to some extend, bcs powercreep make hard/insane mode meaningless)
i also rmb the hard and insane stage cost a lot of stamina too
well, bcs it will be boring if u just smash it with ur overpowered newest valks
its more boring doing it without using them
its hard work and thrilling of challenge
its not evene hard its just tedious
it would be, if u dont treat it as ur source of xtal and wanna rush it
guys is it better to use this hohe for hle or just stick to vbm (sss)?
Yep, hohe is better since she has the goi ring tag
You'd only prefer using vbm as a filler where you dont have a support for that ring
yee it felt better, but i still dont know what i do when i switch to hohe like on ar or not
omg thank you totatly forgot the 2x anual reset
for affixes, it doesnt matter what type of ATK (like just straight up ATK, X wep typ ATK, char type ATK) as long as its ATK right?
like ill use HoH as an ex, as long as I either get ATK or psy type ATK or bow ATK, itll be fine? ofc taking whatever is the higher one whenever i reroll?
yes
u got it chief
hi! ive been a returnee for around 15 days, and i just joined the server to look for some help in game. i saw the pins, and i read that it would be better to restart than keep playing as a returnee, and i was wondering if its really better to do that than to keep playing, since ive already got some characters i like a lot + i dont think id want to restart.
should i do it anyways? (the screenshots are the only things i think are worth to show, other stuff like older battlesuits and basic weapons dont feel that important to show)
im really in doubt now because ive just got to Ch. 29 as well + finished all of the elysian realm story...
most of these battlesuits i got from the memorial shop + fragments from the shop
u switch to hohe to apply/reapply buffs, generally u can rebuff after fdd or before fdd, just be consistent, then in ring, you swap to her mainly to ult, so you can get a passive stack that buffs your hle dmg
restarting for most returnees is better options where majority of their old valks are outdated + they dont have much one time crystals left,
so restarting becomes not a bad choice, since you will be able to essentially catch up a lot sooner with the one time crystals you wouldnt have
but its not strictly necessary you do so, if you feel very much attached to the old one u have, its fine to just keep playing, and just know that you will prob need to save a bit more longer, and i do see u have hle and her new weap, so its not the end of the world or anything
i missed HoRB's supply gacha im pretty sure and i really wanted to use her, but thankfully i did get HLE stigma and her weapon as well.
problem is that i dont have dragonlie and newyearskiana so i cant do her best team
i think the worst mistake ive done is pulling on the costume gacha for HoRB's outfit and now ive done lots of pulls on HoHE's outfit as well...
her best team isnt limited to those 2, its dependant on weather
the important thing for hle is that her supports have the symbiosis tag
i was 1 pull away from HoRB's outfit too but i couldnt get the last crystals i needed.
who would be the ones with symbiosis?
you can check ingame, click on hle's tags and click the symbiosis one
oh smol durandal is on supply, should i get her then?
there's a reason why you arent recommended to pull unless you can garuntee the outfit, pity doesnt carry over and the outfit carry no value outside "it looks pretty"
no, and you dont even have crystals going off your messages stop pulling
alrighty
thank you!
Hii Guys! I'm an returnee for 16 Day and joined this Server to ask for help about if i should restart or not?
- Do you still have Starter Manual? The book in the bottom middle of the main menu
- Does HLE have her sig weapon?
- How many pulls did you spend on her?
- Nope i don't have the book anymore
- No she doesn't have her Sig Weapon
- I spend 87 Pulls i was very unlucky xd
Ideally restart then if you're willing to
Keep in mind in the future that when pulling valks you wanna be getting their sig weaps
And if you can't afford the weap you skip the valk
The pins here have a lot of useful info, this is a good starting point:
!faq lost
I got this, Captain! 
The following guides are a good starting point to help you feel like you know what you're supposed to be doing as Captain of the Hyperion!
See the channel pins of #š¶beginner-help for more:
- Account Progression Pointers: [Click here](#š¶beginner-help message)!
- What to pull right now: [Click here](#š¶beginner-help message)!
- Valkyries you should buy for Asterite: [Click here](#š¶beginner-help message)!
- Clearing up misconceptions about the meta: [Click here](#š¶beginner-help message)!
How do I exit this, I entered this by accident.
I'm trying to have elysia back as my character.
that's part2 hyperion bridge. the character display will always be the leader of the team u r using
go to world and switch to display team in stead of DS
Yeah, I'm new so I don't know how to do that either, sorry.
or u can choose another bridge by clicking name > change bridge at bottom
ur name is Player xyz
THANK YOU, was tired of seeing her.
alr
Is the Elysia lantern rite char you get for free good
if u meant her, she need her new weapon (currently in gacha) to be usable in meta
what do I do if my bp levels aren't rising even if I do the missions
u reach max lvl per week
Is the curent battle suit supply good?
use or save doesnt matter. the weapon is old and not worth lvling up, it will only give u +10atk passive in dorm's divine keys. we recommend to collect all keys for the accumulated +atk though
current gacha is a rerun and we dont recommend back pulling
oh okayy
not only that, all the banners we have currently are not worth it
the only one "worth" would be hohe dkey and its whale only terriroty
tl;dr dont pull
Is this good for lvl 37
It's agony btw
yes, use it and get the dkeys you are missing, if you are not missing any dkey then, yes, save
but even if you dont use them, divine keys give general atk buff
oh wait the changed the level names?
wouldnt you remember that it was before begginners by any chance?
wdym
btw regarding q-manifold, as long as you meet the 2 minute clear (for promoting/retain) the leaderboard score actually doesnt matter
sorry, level numbers
in my records begginers started at 38
not 25
maybe it was just wrong tho

idk ive been calling it lvl 35-55 abyss for a long time now
maybe it did change from 30 smth to 25
yeah, the thing is its not "abyss begginers"
its abyss for BEGGINERS captains
and when they reach 38 ma unlocks
and they get into their respective tier (begginers)
but its not "its own abyss"
welp the tier now starts with abyss unlock
dont know if im expalining myself in here
no point complaining
I swear everyime I make an alt to collect info on beginner changes
they make something new when the alt is exalted
yeah i also suffered the same when we made the es/mx begginers guide
its still pinned and unupdated tho
but its imposible for only two people to keep everything updated by themselves
(without reaching a burnout at least)
How much do you need to promot from agony to redlotus
beside floor 10 you will see a clear within 120s requirement
that's the only requirement to promote in q-manifold
its written in the rules in there, but yeah, what asu said
cough
I cleared in 1:52
then you should be promoting
Bruh I'm just lvl 37 the hell am i supose to do in redlotus
the same the rest of the lvl 37 do
the same thing you did in agony
you are not against lvl 81+ everyone in those levels have more or less the same stuff
btw until masters redlotus q-manifold is mostly a joke with a couple of road bumps
(pretty much nothing)

and ngl, even in exalted the thing only changes a bit
its not that much of a feat for an invested player to get to red lotus
Ahaā¦i use HoHE RC and VBm
better than nothing
as we said, most of the players in those tiers just struggle with what they have
its not like "you are handicapped"
everyone is
No what i want ask is how my rotations should be?
No i don't have it
I got her for free so i don't have her weapon
I use the forged bow on her
Well for the meantime your rot will be vbm 2 weapon attacks > jump > attack > weapon attack to do the blast attack on the floor (make sure this hits an enemy)
You will see 3 stacks above your hp bar indicating that you have your vbm buffs up, and if you hit an enemy with the jump attack into weapon it applies a vulnerability, if stacks are about to run out switch back to her and use her jump attack into weapon again
For rc make sure her bar is purple (can switch it with weapon skill) then hold atk when its full, you can also just use your ultimate instead if its available for the same buffs
On hohe its mostly hold atk until 3 seeds above enemy then weapon skill to detonate
And you repeat this process until hohe has enough sp to ult
You can also check the ingame guide for each of the characters
That's perfectly fine, just dont upgrade it past 35/35 otherwise you lose resources
Also do not get key of ego from your box in beginner manual its not worth it despite being hohe's old weapon
Preferably unlock rc's chakram (purana phantasma i think it was called)
What box?
Check your manual, one of the tabs will give you a weapon choice box after a certain amount of pulls
No need to rush it, but just keep in mind that hohe weapon isnt recommended to pick up from it
Should i forge stigmas for elysia
Ah, sorry if this is not the right place to ask but I have my starter supply ticket, should I pull Deepspace Anchor First Light or Jovial Deception Shadowdimmer?
Neither starter banner is not worth it
What Elysia? @cedar gale Please give battlesuit names or something else that can identify them.
Thanks I figured out that the guide video is old and I guess they couldn't pull on a current banner, therefore since I need to pull on starter banner once for the stater manual, growth regimen, I should use the ticket on the current banner and then use crystals on the starter banner JUST ONCE to fulfill the requirement on growth regimen
Is that about right?
I just started yesterday
Yes just do one pull and nothing more. DAFL is probably slightly more value.
Got it thanks
HoHE
Only get Solon if you have Flawless benediction else just run Peary or another P1 ice set
Which is better value HoHE or HoT?
check the first pin
tl;dr neither
makes no difference who you choose assuming both s0
Ok nice, thanks a lot
from these valks, which one should i pick, if any? one of the options is also available in the gold egg thingy
The only value any of these have longterm is as ER crystals and stress test look at the War treasury pin for which are available in ER
ah, hmm
alright then, thanks
Azure Empyrea is not in ER and you want to pick something else for this reason.
good to know ty
What guide video?
3 hours 
Nvm it's 2 I'm blind lol

The guys who made this will update it one day
Still making a new script I heard
Looks like a fate watch order guide video from the thumbnail 
Doesnāt help that this game has like ten different things crammed into one
Oh awesome
I haven't gotten far but I've been doing my best to separate what's evergreen from what isn't, which isn't hard
True
I also needed a lot of help starting
But mostly consulted armada members or here
Everyone's been so helpful, I appreciate it
What team archetype is the strongest
The one that has the newest character on banner and their designated weather in endgame
There is no strict best team as bosses have pretty strong restrictions on what works well enough to at least retain redlotus so you want as much coverage as possible at a high enough level of investment that you can win your bracket. This is generally S0 with weapon.
The generally recommended pull this patch is HLE but on the current boss she is losing pretty badly to RS for example. So you want a roster which can win more then it loses, the main way you get there is by getting the new valk each patch and let old options die as their bosses get more and more scarce.
The restrictions come from two broad factors: the weather which is a large independent buff/debuff which advantages certain setups and specific boss mechanics including type but also extending to hit count requirements or anything else fight specific.
@maiden garden
do we get enough prims on a patch to fully upgrade a valk?
without counting with salvaging stigs
You mean her stigmata?
Yes, absolutely
I don't think so. It takes 21 to fully upgrade a full set assuming you get them all (otherwise +2 for each you further craft)
due to the high odds of rolling stigs from the gacha, you're expected to salvage some. But of course, luck can say otherwise one way or another
!faq prism
Hi, Captain! 
[Click here](#š¶beginner-help message) for more information about Prisms such as their sources!
Source Prisms are a very limited resource, so please be very careful not to waste them. They are used to upgrade and craft Part 2 Stigmata (all Part 2 Stigmata are forgeable).
thanks, yeah i didnt think so also cause im always out of them xD
got 2 new valks this patch
and couldnt fully upgrade them
the prism incoming its worst then i thgouht
if you need to use them both for significant use cases, consider leveling the stigs to x/45 (semifinal upgrade) (this only costs 3 instead of 7 prism per upgrade. Considerably cheaper)
after looking to this xD
keep in mind for double release patches (new gacha s rank and a stellar key nowadays) we do get a prism ticket to max out a stig from nothing
was asking cause i was considering pulling dudo
but wont be able to build her anyway
so just gonna wait and save prisms for the new valk
yeah sounds good. Backpulls aren't recommended anyway if you're on a limited budget of some kind including resources
saw so many vids of this abyss with dudo + ps and her dmg
looked so insane that almost made me do it
until i saw my prims xD
yeah this current abyss is physical with an imaginary enemy. The only dps that suits both of these with astral ring is durandal
don't be tempted by a single abyss cycle though
at this point durandal is several patches old and that sort of situation is not as common now
you can see the upcoming abyss schedule in #šgameplay-help pins
this boss is very niche and hasn't been seen since dudu's debut patch
keep in mind your crystal budget is limited too unless you're a whale spender. It's normal otherwise to not cover every situation and it's better to give up the less occurring situations to handle the more common ones (newest releases)
dudu isn't really used anywhere else and her as a support is rarely used
if you pick up durandal now, you're giving up on a different valk in the future, and every valk has their own scenarios specific to them. So what you're doing is giving up those scenarios instead. It's a trade off.
I have FWS, PS, PAWS, FDD and HLE, what team should I use for this abyss
+50% PHYS
ik PS should be the leader but what teammates should she use
FWS is better than a lot of other LoA supp bcs her shift can stop timer (1.5 + 1.5 weapon)
weapon only grants timestop if FWS is leader
FWS generally has really fast animations is how i see it. Not sure how her buff compares
PAWS being lightning certainly discourages her, and supports on an LoA with their stellar shifts do contribute more damage than other teams. You can still give her a quick try though. Support damage is still a small part of the whole picture and sometimes some other reason can justify them
I see
Is Senti's Sig Weapon more worth then Ranking her up to S1?
can someone take a look at my run pls
i showed another run today and was given some pointers but i feel like im doing bad still
and the divine keys in reserve shop should be the highest priority of ur ball as well
unless u really simp for senti and dont care about other things
its laggy?
this is a very laggy dc
Turn off your damage numbers, turn down your quality settings except for fps
PS does alot of hits so maybe that's what makes her so laggy for you
I was already on the lowest settings but I didn't know the damage numbers were contributing to the problem
u dont stay in dps with LoA. qte, weapon, combo etc then qte the next
got a better quality video if that one was laggy maybe this one is better
check the tutorial of PS
is the setting to remove damage numbers called "close"?
never do basic with a LoA
i think so chaos
whats loa xD
LoA is PS's ring
please use the glossary in the future
also should I turn off physics
LoA is law of ascension. the ring type of PS sushang. This ring type playstyle wants you to QTE alot
!faq ring
Allow me to explain, Captain! 
Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!
Since 7.3, all new Valkyries will use the Astral Ring system. You must charge Astral Ring Intensity (ARI) to max to enter Stellar Outburst. The team leader determines the active Astral Ring Specialization.
For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:
- World Star - [Click here!](#š¶beginner-help message)
- Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#š¶beginner-help message)
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[Click here](#š¶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!
ok thanks
read the LoA link here for more details
holy fuck I turned off physics and now my main menu is running at 60fps
but badum and sparkly dmg is so bad here, that its worth rotating their qte still? outside of using badum
to apply buffs
i thought staying in ps would be worth it cause of the 50% phy
read the faq
ok thanks
their qte then combo atk/weapon will RESET dps qte
Okayy ty for ur help!
also heavenly link
yeah that, in LoA dps will add 1 big signature atk to supp qte. 2 supps = 2 heavenly links
so i would be jumping to their qte like PS-badum-ps-sparkle-ps-badum?
or do like ps-badum-sparkle
ight the performance is definitely a lot better
still very laggy but a lot less laggy
thanks for the suggestions guys
ps badum sparkle, make use of their stellar drain and then use SO
What is "Trauma"
Trauma is inflicted on a target and accumulates. When there is enough trauma, it will trigger a matching status ailment. For certain stages and enemies, it can also trigger specific interactions.
Trauma can be inflicted by various methods including effects from Valkyrie skills, weapons, stigmata, and stages.
āTrauma,ā āstatus,ā and ādamageā are distinct terms even when they share the same name (e.g., Ignite trauma ā Ignite status ā Ignite damage).
Understanding the Trauma Icon
- When inflicting trauma, an icon centered below the enemy's HP will display.
- The picture in the center shows what kind of trauma is inflicted.
- The circular bar surrounding the icon is accumulated trauma, filling in a clockwise direction. Once filled, the status is triggered.
- When the status is triggered, the center area will be filled and decrease from top to bottom for the remaining duration of the active status.
- Against some enemies, after a status expires a cooldown period will start where the trauma icon will turn gray. That trauma cannot be inflicted until this period is over.
Kinds of Trauma
- Control Conditions: Paralyze, Rime (causes Freeze), Stun
- These may pause or even stop an enemy's action.
- Typical duration: ~5 seconds.
- In a few cases, these status may cause other effects to be extended.
- Damage Conditions: Ignite and Bleed
- These deal damage over time (DoT) that are not Melee nor Ranged, scaling from the Valkyrie that inflicted the status.
- Typical duration: ~10 seconds.
- Bleed damage is physical but cannot crit.
- Some Fixed DMG-only (hitcount) shields can be reduced by bleed.
- Heavy Atk.
- Interacts with very specific states from old bosses (SS Heimdall/SS Tonatiuh).
Other General Trauma Mechanics
- Stages and enemies may have interactions with specific kinds of trauma. These are very separate from status ailments. Fulfilling these interactions can result important effects such as removal of damage reduction or high vulnerability on an enemy.
- Some effects can also be very minor where skipping it can be considered.
- Possible trauma interactions may display a trauma icon above the on-field target as opposed to the usual location below the enemy hp bar.
- Trauma can interact with enemies differently.
- Some enemies may be less susceptible or even immune to specific kinds of trauma.
- When trying to repeat the same status on a boss, they may also gain a higher trauma requirement than the first time. This resets upon a phase change.
Why is HI3 so hard to understand
Like I'm playing 6 different stories at once and they don't even start from the beginning
Like am I supposed to know and care about these chars?
Is this the problem with not being a D1 HI3 player
It's new. That's why it's posted out of the blue like that
#šhonkai-lore pins should have a recommended order for how to take in its story. Be careful of reading posts there and getting spoiled though.
If you're jumping into events+voyager log (past events), you're going to run into all sorts of stories that may be going off of some pre-existing context already.
Otherwise for main story, beware that it's possible to jump straight to the "Part 2" of the main story, or even to the latest chapter (new story additions are treated as events so there are limited rewards. A player who doesn't care about story may opt to jump to not miss out)
Part 1's main story does start in the middle of something though so even being a d1 player doesn't really avoid that. There are some official mangas that take place before it chronologically speaking. Again Lore channel can handle that.
=====
The following concerns side modes
Open world does have stories too. Mainly consider putting off A Post Honkai Odyssey 1 and 2 for now.
Elysian Realm also relates to the main story. It occurs after Chapter 25 of part 1.
We do have a firm no story policy here btw (bottom of pins). What you said so far is fine but just saying this preemptively before any actual story details come up.
What team for this?
Probably the one you've already selected
What team for this?
err
i already switched to NA but im still getting pinged for EU pings how to remove my role 
What is worth taking here?
Channels and roles
cards
Which one's?
either
Is the mid girl in the banner gonna be there for a long time?
Will any reruns be soon?
#šgameplay-help In the pins is the schedule for banners
Can't find it
We do know and #š®cn-gameplay-discussion has the next patch banner info (cn is 4 weeks ahead)
Though keep in mind anything not announced globally will be regarded as spoilers concerning next patch
Which one should i pick(goal:future HoHE main)
Purana phantasma (rc weapon), if you want to make hohe relevant you'd pull her dkey on banner rn, keep in mind competitively this isnt recommended
Who is ourna phatadma for?
Reverist Calico
She's a suport for HoHE rigth?
can i ask what kind of HoHE main you're looking to become?
The idea of maining doesn't really exist honestly. This is because the main competitive mode of HI3 (Abyss) constantly changes across many scenarios so one single team or dps cannot handle all of it (let alone much of it).
If you just want to get everything related to HoHE, consider Key of Ego which is her first signature weapon. It is the worst weapon to get here since HoHE has a complete replacement now (albeit gacha only) that outclasses it several folds with new functions for modern teams.
With part 1 gear, yes. With part 2 gear sheās pretty cope but you wonāt have a lot of options for a while even if you pull dkey
And RC can technically support HoHE dkey just not like. Well, compared to her BiS team
RC can support anyone simply because her buffs and debuffs are "Total Damage" which affects all damage types.
you can check it out from her skills > top right special attack section > plan b (debuff)
and also skills > left passive section > idr the skill name but one of them unlocks at S rank to buff the team against frozen enemies
So if i got HoHE dkey grom the box it's a bad investment but if i go the one for RC it will ne a good investment for any team
Did i get that rigth
no
the hohe weapon in the box is not a divine key
it's just her old signature weapon and completely obsoleted now
Ok
her recent new weapon which is a divine key is in the gacha atm
basically it's dlc added for her to refresh her into the meta
gives her very new functions to make her work with the new team building (astral ring)
we don't recommend it because if you're pulling for meta, you'll get better mileage from a new release
but meta and casual isn't really binary either. There can be a balance you can personally decide upon
!faq weap
Hi, Captain! 
Ai-chan recommends that you keep the box until you have a use case for one of the weapons. Both Purana Phantasma and Nocturnal Stealth have their uses. Key of Ego is generally not recommended.
If you insist on opening the box immediately, Purana is likely to have more usage long-term due to the team tdm buff and RC being able to quickly debuff enemies which may be useful for SS MA.
-# Please note that you definitely should not rush to PRI-ARM these weapons, they are not a good investment of PRI materials.
Purana mainly gives 15% total damage to the team iirc? So it's something on a useful unit early game.
But RC falls off eventually. She ultimately doesn't have astral ring stuff.
you can also check in #wiki-consult
Pk so tue curent weapon supply bow is her new signature which is a dkey and a medium investment
do hohe's outfit's effects apply with ar activated?
ok so the current weapon? is that what you mean to say?
Yes
Ar activated is just her ult
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note the timestamp
but you can see it with the outfit here
but yeah if i read that right
i can go into more details if needed
what's up
Faq finished?
i don't see the short version yet but you can scroll up for the long version
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-# time to waste crystals
If you could only tell me how my rotations should be with the team you gave me(HoHE VBm and RC)
Did I not tell you yesterday?

HI3 isn't a game about blindly repeating a rotation btw. While rotations do still exist, to optimize further you need to know your valks so you can fine tune and adjust them to best fit the boss' hp
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i'm pretty sure i've seen your name around so i prob don't need to warn you but just in case, make sure you have 7620 crystals or whatever the total discounted cost is

You told nd to saep every 10 to 15 secs but not how to teigger the wanted boosts
!faq pyramid
Be careful, Captain! 
Please see Professor Lyo's summary [here](#š¶beginner-help message) Regarding Gacha (Pyramid) outfits.
Gacha (Pyramid) Outfits
- DO NOT PULL UNLESS YOU CAN HARD PITY. NON-NEGOTIABLE.
- You need 9600
or 7680
if there is a discount.
- You need 9600
- No competitive benefit.
i was 60 off. I was close
I did not even mention seconds in that message
maybe you were thinking of me?
I told you how vbm and rc buffs are applied and told you to check the ingame guide for hohe dps rot
i remember telling someone about RC's debuff lasting 15s
anyway if you're going after hohe's newer weapon maybe we should talk about astral ring
Idr anymore I've been craming high school test studies and hi3rd grindingā¦i passed out in class one time
ok we don't need to get into personal details
Ok
and keep in mind this is only a game. Please prioritize real life responsibilities
yep and i know this is a terrible use of them for me, but i'm doing it anyway XD. where have you seen my name around 
hi3 is a complicated game so don't expect to understand it all in one go either. it'll take time
i think the minigame leaderboards lol
and yeah as long as you understand it's all fine
!faq ring
Allow me to explain, Captain! 
Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!
Since 7.3, all new Valkyries will use the Astral Ring system. You must charge Astral Ring Intensity (ARI) to max to enter Stellar Outburst. The team leader determines the active Astral Ring Specialization.
For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:
- World Star - [Click here!](#š¶beginner-help message)
- Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#š¶beginner-help message)
- Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#š¶beginner-help message)
- Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#š¶beginner-help message)
- Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#š¶beginner-help message)
[Click here](#š¶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!
Ok so what is the astral ring
start from the last faq here
you can think of astral ring as a mode that's turned on if a newer valk is set as the leader. From having it on, alot of effects and features become active.
the main mechanic is stellar outburst which is the big blude burst-like button that charges up
So i should put VBm as leader of my ream for that?
prob not in this case.
you're trading away hohe's leader skill in the process, and without her new weapon hohe isn't really benefiting from having astral ring on
Another major mechanic is the valkyrie's ring type. Every ring type correspond to a particular playstyle.
Basically team building and gameplay completely changes with astral ring.
Ok
anything beyond that you can consult the faq
it's not intuitive but once you get the idea it's actually quite simple
this is very foundational to modern teams so it's highly recommended you digest it sooner than later
every newer team revolves around astral ring
non astral ring teams are basically heavily out of date now
oh also, before you roll
if you want to try out hohe with her new astral ring stuff, it's in her tutorial section in the game
Also whats tje ELF system
it's just the part 1 system
instead of an astral op as the fourth member of your party, you use an ELF. The functions differ (there's no stellar outburst. instead you get an ELF ult)
HoHE Stellar Key Considerations
- note you can try this out for free in her tutorial menu via Attack > Events (Tab) > Tactics Class > HoHE
benefits of hohe stellar divine key
- it only costs 60 pulls at worst (17k crystals) if you already own hohe
(which you get for free)edit: this was from a past event - since it's a [divine key](#š¶beginner-help message), integrating (tune) it into your dorm menu will give you a global +10 atk buff (it's not much on its own but it adds up to matter in high meta)
it gives hohe [astral ring functions](#š¶beginner-help message)
- Wheel of Destiny ring type (for leader dps)
- her tags (mainly for supporting) are
- shadow star (matches with wheel of destiny)
- heavenly shift (matches with law of ascension)
- symbiosis (matches with grail of infinitude)
so for only 60 pulls you're getting one dps role, and three support roles
--
the cons are:
- those 60 rolls can get more mileage on something more new
- since you're new, your hohe is behind the competition. it's common at a competitive level for hohe to have ss rank or higher now (not recommended to pursue) (mine is ss3 already and i only rolled one valk card for her back when she was first released)
- HoHE's dps role is niche, esp moreso with HLE's release who took away some scenarios from her
- HoHE as a support is mostly lackluster except for symbiosis which she isn't the best at either.
- HoHE as a dps is quite dependent on thelema/HLE for alot of her matchups. Thelema is highly not recommended to go out of your way for now.
there's prob more i can say really
Early on i think i told you to use hohe as a cheap budget team. A temporary one until you get new gacha stuff that far outclasses her. But her dkey isn't really what i meant.
I just pulled thisā¦is this a good stigma for her
if you get her weapon then yes it's her signature stigmata
but read that stigmata effects (including 2pc and 3pc set bonuses). It requires astral ring
this is also why we recommended not crafting them
because you'll get them primarily here first from the gacha supplies
if you get the weapon and still don't have them then that's when you craft the rest
btw, rather than taking a photo of your screen, consider learning the snipping tool or the print screen button if you're on windows
I use a laptop and I'm new tonusong one so i got no clue what you just sayd
google it then
Windows + Shift + S or print screen takes a screenshot of your screen
Then you can press ctrl + v to paste it
it might depend on what kind of windows you're on
Windows + Shift + S is also a built in Windows app called snipping tool if you want to open that instead
and there can be other tools to achieve this too
but overall be careful on the internet. You never know if you'll take a photo with something sensitive in it
^
print screen might get shorten to prnt scrn or prt scrn on some keyboards
you may have to use a function/fn key to access it
you might want to delete this one
and also this one #š¶beginner-help message (this is a link to an earlier message. click on it)
if you don't care then that's fine too but just be wary what kind of info you don't intend to reveal about yourself from these.
if you want to find other photos you have taken then you can use discord's search feature.
type
- "from: <your own discord name (not server name if it's different)>"
- "has: image"
- "in: <channel name>" if you have any particular place to search in
but anyway enough of all this. I know I'm being extreme and sensitive but internet safety isn't anything to take lightly esp when AI is rampant
Or just from: name then click the media tab
that might be mobile only?
Ah fk I forgot