#šŸ‘¶beginner-help

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wet reef
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ohh ok thank you

sweet flax
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also, rs doesnt need her weapon to support

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just for dps

wet reef
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okk

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ty for the help

sweet flax
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np

raven bane
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does any of these event have spoilers

maiden garden
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I tried short ring and got this score

Still improvement can be made
Like I was standing for a few secs after the orb collection mechanic šŸ˜‚

Some questions
For the phase change mechanic I have some questions

Like for the party I just switch to paws and spam her ba, wa and ult i think I'm doing it for more than required

How to know you have fulfilled the requirement for the mechanic

For the mechanic where you have to collect orbs, I just spam dash on paws

Is there a faster way

shadow gyro
raven bane
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also it isnt possible to convert crystals into supply tickets right

shadow gyro
lyric anvil
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I thought you couldn't at all SenadinaStare

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Though probably wouldn't matter if they made the cards cost 280 xtals each

glad ice
buoyant cliff
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So I returned to the game after the first patch of Part 2. I have 4/4 for HLE, Sena and the A ranks. I'm considering getting the BP for Thelema. Which Part 2 Valks are good? Also would the HorB DK rerun be good?

serene crystal
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I would skip BP, MPS isn't that impactful even with weapon and she does nothing without weapon.
In general value is very flat with P2 valks so there are no big standout performers. Performance decreases with age so backpulling anything is pretty heavily discouraged as it is never worth losing the current on banner valk for it.
HoRb with dkey also only really sees use on her bosses so I would skip at this point

heady lark
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i'm curious how essential weapons are to the game and this is a hard question to ask since it's very heavily based on my own perspective that i've noticed is quite niche but to attempt it, I only care to max out rewards and doing so I don't care for being some god who has insane overkill, big numbers dont excite me in fact I kinda hate ever feeling op, for example if the "final endgame wave" (speculative idk this games endgame yet) says clear in 3 minutes and I clear in 1 that doesn't do anything for me i'm perfectly fine with clearing in 3 minutes on the dot and would even prefer it.

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I would rather not pull weapons unless that literally makes my stated aim unobtainable

glad ice
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weapon is must have for dps and maybe-not-so important for support. part2 gacha changed so that it is easier to get weapon so it is considered as default requirement

outer spruce
heady lark
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ah so theres a competitive element to this one?

sweet flax
# heady lark I would rather not pull weapons unless that literally makes my stated aim unobta...

something to note about abyss (main endgame mode where your own valks/gear matter) is that the difficulty of it is based on player performance
if your goals are competitive and looking to get to higher ranks (mainly redlotus which is easily achievable for f2p players for the highest crystal income outside top 100 server)
to score higher you will need to outperform other players in your bracket, and not having a valkyrie's gear will put you at a disadvantage

outer spruce
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weapons are very important to the point where most people will tell you not to pull unless you can pull the weapon also

serene crystal
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I would consider RL retain as pretty close to impossible without weapon on dps unless you have very good bracket luck and are willing to mald a lot.
A2 to A3 bounce is realistically where I see someone land without weapon but may be lower

sweet flax
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actually even a3 is slightly unrealistic without weapon

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disturbance is much higher now

heady lark
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Ok, understood well I guess I may have to then, I just dont yet understand the draw gains economy of the game yet and having to pull a new valk and their weapon seems quite costly to do every single version

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assuming max pity no luck

sweet flax
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keep in mind patches are 8-10 weeks, f2p rl players make around 2-3k per patch (depending on their situation and available crystals)
so you are looking at around 20k per patch, to garuntee a unit and her weapon at max pity, it will cost you 40.6k crystals (assuming its the debut valk who always has a discounted 10 pull on her first banner)
now are you always going to hit hard pity? no (dont look at my gacha history, even though i've hard pitied every banner this is not the average case)
so you are able to garuntee a valk + her weapon every 2 patches, otherwise you have decent-high chances of being able to garuntee back to back valks depending on how lucky you get

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even a single 10 pull earlier is huge

heady lark
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rl?

sweet flax
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redlotus

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2nd highest rank (nirvana is higher but the difference between rl and nirv is literally 40 crystals per week)

heady lark
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well if i really love the game i'll definitely have a permanent uptime on the monthly card if that means anything the login bonus

cosmic loom
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Am I still in a long way on finishing the genealogical quest

sweet flax
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then it just depends on your goals, if you are planning on being competitive then you are going to have higher crystal income to help you with such competitive goals
keep in mind skipping is not something to see as a negative, unless you are a whale, you will inevitably skip a banner

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just have to be mindful of what you are skipping and pulling

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you wouldnt wanna pull a niche unit with limited use over a strong unit with more use cases

glossy laurel
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what should i get here

sweet flax
# glossy laurel what should i get here

all of these dkeys are available in the bp reserve shop ||soeae getting added to it next patch||
so you can either choose to hold onto it until you need the atk boost (or in the future might prefer using that reroll device)
or if you want to use the box now, soeae as its not currently farmable

glad ice
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might of an uwu has the advantage of 2x sync (with 2 other free dks)

sweet flax
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sync1 is from pistol + cleaver

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sync2 from utu + any

glad ice
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i saw another +8?

heady lark
# sweet flax you wouldnt wanna pull a niche unit with limited use over a strong unit with mor...

this is where my "I don't wanna pull weapons" thing comes in though I am a story player with everything I touch to me games are entirely experiences about making memories and enjoying new perspectives about life (artsy rant about the importance of literature to the human experience) anyways I would rather get every single character because the reason i even like to play in the first place is to "play as who I like from the story" to put it into more understandable terms in a fighting game which i play several competitively I don't pick based on archetypes or meta or mechanics I pick based on my emotional investment, and I enjoy playing as them regardless of their mechanics because to me thats irrelevant

sweet flax
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its up to you how to move forward

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weapons are a must if you plan on being competitive, but if that is not something you are attracted to, then pull as you feel necessary

glossy laurel
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i have this too, is raiden mei good? i only have hle as my built dps character

heady lark
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ok, i'll see how I feel when i get there i'll really have to feel it out i guess since it seems really unique here

sweet flax
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however I will clarify from now that your own valks are only usable in endgame content
story/events and other similar activities provide you with trial valks where needed

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and current p2 units are only usable in the p2 chapters

small willowBOT
glad ice
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now that been asked about the concern of dorm S+ errand i would recommend u to save the egg/box

glossy laurel
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oh so just save it... thank u

sweet flax
glad ice
sweet flax
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only image I could find, but it could be level locked instead of sync locked

quick birch
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pretty sure it is

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locked behind level

sweet flax
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I would've remembered if it was sync locked tbh but now I want to verify Pockek

quick birch
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well it's an energy boost and those are level locked

sweet flax
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its level locked

sweet flax
glad ice
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base S give 8 quality, base A 4
and u get +2 each rank up

eternal spindle
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no point trying right?

ancient needle
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Straight up not enough damage

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If you wanna improve for the sake of improvement you still can record a run TeriDerp

eternal spindle
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okay nah i spent 50s not getting thru the first hp bar lmao

ancient needle
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I suggest you don't continue upgrading RC's weap btw

eternal spindle
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but yea i can record a rotation to check if im doing anmything wrong ig

ancient needle
eternal spindle
ancient needle
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You'll be using VBm for a very good while, quite worth as long as your DPS's weaps are maxed

storm lantern
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and 250 asterite is so not worth the time even if it was possible

eternal spindle
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btw how is bouncing benefit more xtal?
this looks like even if i f7 on redlotus it'd be worse than if i stayed at agony f10 hmm

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or is it finalization rewards?

storm lantern
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there's no way to get the xtals without promoting

eternal spindle
storm lantern
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it's better to skip the boss in agony if you wouldn't be able to clear past floor 3 but that's only really a problem if you're moving up from elites to masters

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suspicious math actually

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yeah i think you're safe to just go as far as you can

raven bane
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how to get p1 valks sig weapons for example base elysia i cant find her weapon in foundry its only on the bp shop how can i get it?

storm lantern
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mpe's weapon is in exchange shop

eternal spindle
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260*2 = 520
360+100 = 460
or am i missing sth

storm lantern
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yeah you're right

raven bane
storm lantern
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but i dont think you're gonna be in that situation

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of being able to promote into rl but not clear floor 5

eternal spindle
storm lantern
eternal spindle
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someone here couldnt clear f3 but can somewhat clear f10 agony

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idk, is bouncing really that good if u cant consistently clear f5?

storm lantern
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i think you are going to lose more xtals to fear than that situation actually happening

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if you have to play on mobile or something for a week when you usually play pc maybe it's better to tank

hardy lintel
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Guys question, I am thinking about buying hercher of reason from the store as I don't have any good first part valkery of that type (mech), and with Elysia shop I can level her up. Also as I really need good part 1 valekeries and I'm working only with Hercher of void, and Hercher of truth and finality over here

storm lantern
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why do you need p1 valkyries

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ma?

serene crystal
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TA,SI, RC should work fine for anything which requires p1 in my experience.

hardy lintel
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Ma? Well mainly do those challenges you can't use part 2 valekeries and stuff you know ^^

serene crystal
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HoR is definitely not an upgrade

raven bane
storm lantern
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1k

storm lantern
serene crystal
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Yes, I am still pretty sceptical that it is better. What team would you run?

storm lantern
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hor rc/jk/kira or something

lyric anvil
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Could give JK Nebs if they're a new player

storm lantern
eternal spindle
lyric anvil
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24% Elemental DMG team wide

storm lantern
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ok yeah hor lead way better than the others

lyric anvil
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The latter effect isn't that much useful

storm lantern
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it doesn't apply to herself? seems like it would

lyric anvil
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Probably does yeah-

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Unless you also feel like using Haxxor with her LanternHeavyThoughts

wicked pebble
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is rein solaris good

serene crystal
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She is not worth pulling

hardy lintel
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Sorry had to go eat, anycase was actually worth buying from war treasury?

storm lantern
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yeah it's fine, have you gotten your discounted s-ranks from dorm

wicked pebble
serene crystal
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next patch valk ||miss espionage||

wicked pebble
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when is she oyr and what does she do

hardy lintel
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Me*

storm lantern
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perfectly fine to buy her then, just don't get valks that aren't in er

raven bane
hardy lintel
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Ok šŸ‘Œ

storm lantern
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you can eventually get the others but after getting all the er valks + ranking enough of them to ss so you don't miss s+ dorm errands ever

hardy lintel
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Oh yeah the dorm, I need level up mine and get more valekeries as I have struggles to have enough

serene crystal
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She is out in the start of january and is ||IMG lightning dps with WoD ring and will get at least 25% of weathers on her release patch.|| For more detailed info it is generally better to consult #šŸ”®cn-gameplay-discussion

maiden garden
# storm lantern you can eventually get the others but after getting all the er valks + ranking e...

Yo

https://youtu.be/8sxxe_NrGjQ?si=aFbDw6iakaGP9gan

Here's a vid of a run I did
Instead of switching to vbm them paws to qte hle i accidentally swapped to paws first leading to vbm being onfeild for a lil longer at 2:00

Also at 2:30 i somehow thought the orb phase would be starting that's why I blanked for a sec there

Other than that I tried my best

So what changes could I make

Other than the device and 30 fps

raven bane
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how much crystals does the entire story give (including part 2)

hardy lintel
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Honestly Mech has the weakest collection of valekeries for me term of gameplay, most of them I just don't like to use that much :/ no hating on them just personal opinion

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That kinda why I want her as I do like using her

maiden garden
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I'm confused b/w hothunder, da and sushang
All of em are cool design, character and kit wise

I'll just hold on until I unlock elysian realm the correct way, i.e. get to chapter 25

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Here

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The crystals from story

raven bane
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ty

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wth is sensei

storm lantern
# maiden garden Yo https://youtu.be/8sxxe_NrGjQ?si=aFbDw6iakaGP9gan Here's a vid of a run I di...

for vbm you gain 1 hammering feel for hitting with basic and lose 1 hammering feel for hitting with wa, you need to get 3 stacks from consuming hammering feel with one of them being the stomp wa with 3 explosions, alternatively you can hit the enemy with ult (actually has to land) but only ever do this in the opener since you can make up for how slow it is by starting it a little before the boss is targetable. as for paws she has two ways to apply buffs, ult and qte, with only ult consuming stellar drain. i saw you use her ult after qte when you already consumed stellar drain which does nothing. hle you should really avoid casting ult at less than max stacks and you generally want to do an ult before wa since it skips sp farming but it depends on when you would get the cooldown back (and ofc just use the wa if you have less than 150)

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you might also need to double wa on vbm even if you ult but not sure

maiden garden
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Oh the paws ult after qte

Thanks for this
It's what I always did before learning how the kit works so didn't even register I was doing that
Hmm
Lemme read the vbm part again

maiden garden
storm lantern
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yeah

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if you really really need to rush outburst you can do it but it loses a lot of damage

maiden garden
# storm lantern yeah

Hmmm i didn't pay much attention to that part

Ik it feels real flimsy without charging to max but didn't pay attention to sp

maiden garden
storm lantern
maiden garden
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Thanks for the help SakuraLuv

serene crystal
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Second SO is also pretty questionable as you first buff with VBm and then immediately press SO which reapplies the buff

storm lantern
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it was relevant on kalpas but i don't expect it to generally be

maiden garden
serene crystal
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SO reapplies buffs as a baseline assuming the valks fit the astral ring

maiden garden
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I also think I could have held the second so until like after the orb collection thing

What do you think

maiden garden
maiden garden
storm lantern
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watching a bit more
after wa your next ult has timestop so outside of ring you always max charge it, you skipped the ult to outburst
the paws combo after parrying with her is useless

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you also usually max charge ult after wa in ring but maybe there are situations where you wouldn't, haven't come across any

maiden garden
maiden garden
storm lantern
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i didnt watch you probably did max charge, i was just mentioning it

maiden garden
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Ah okay

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Thanks for the adviceSakuraLuv

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Gonna try again after understanding all these stuff better

novel path
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i thought the new valk would be released today, instead its the rerun xD when is she coming?

maiden garden
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New year then?!

novel path
maiden garden
lusty island
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which astral ring does hohe support? and would getting her new weapon and gears be worth for an acct with HLE, PS, Thelema when i plan to pull next patch

storm lantern
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wod/loa/goi, not worth pulling

remote ridge
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What's the difference between awakened Psy types and psy types ? Are the awakened better ?

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(I was looking at sixth serenade and phoenix and spotted this thing)

serene crystal
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Awakened valks are an old subtype of battlesuits which they stopped making long ago

ancient needle
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The last Awakened valk is PE, and she's more than dead

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And Hoyo explicitly mentioned that they won't be releasing more Awakened valks

remote ridge
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Also another question, why is spina astera and silver wing nex costlier than palatinus equinox even tho Palatinus eq needs more fragment and was released after these (in war thresory)

ancient needle
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The costs can be quite arbitrary at times

ancient needle
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Yes

remote ridge
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A

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Is anything interesting to buy in war treasury ?

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Because it seems to one of the costliest

ancient needle
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Not to actually use, but for indirect benefits

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Check "War Treasury" in the pins

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None of the valks there are useful as actual valks

remote ridge
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A

warped trout
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how do i get more of these?

novel path
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PS or hohr for this week abyss?

warped trout
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where do i find those?

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im only level 31 and ive only done story and some events

serene crystal
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War treasury or reserve works

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You should unlock her by buying the character first before going for fragments as the cost for fragments is higher.

ancient needle
novel path
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arent both of them phys?

serene crystal
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War treasury

remote ridge
novel path
ancient needle
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Thought you meant HoHE

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Should be PS

warped trout
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while im level 31... how do i get more xp?

serene crystal
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Clear story use stamina and clear daily missions

remote ridge
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So about this sincerest affection DK box , should I pick star of eden or things have changed?

ancient needle
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Essentially you can pick any dkey, but ideally not AF or FHD

frigid osprey
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Who should I choose?

shell basin
# frigid osprey Who should I choose?

None of them are used for meta and all of them are farmable. You could look at the war treasury to see if any of them are more expensive than the other, or I think Fallen Rosemary has a stress test so she might be technically the most valuable?

shell basin
# remote ridge Stress test ?

It’s a set of stages where you can only bring a limited list of battlesuits. Clearing them gives you materials and (eventually) 1 summon ticket

nimble nova
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is it better to play steam or hoyo client?

lone crater
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iirc the server u end up playing in is the same, but topping up is slightly different or something
@quick birch

quick birch
small willowBOT
# nimble nova is it better to play steam or hoyo client?
Playing on Steam

Hello, Captain! AichanWave

Playing Honkai Impact 3rd on Steam has both benefits and drawbacks! No matter what other captains say, please decide if it's for you or not!

** DRAWBACKS **

  • Cannot link a Hoyoverse account to your game account. This means no HoyoLab features (like daily check in), no twitch drops, and discord linking to Hoyoverse accounts does not work either. Anything that needs a Hoyoverse account does not work.
  • No Crossplay, you can only play through Steam so you cannot play the same account on mobile or use any launchers.
  • No Hoyoplay launcher, which lets you play most of your Hoyoverse games from one single launcher.
  • Can only play on the Global (EU/NA) servers.

BENEFITS

  • Harder to forget your login, you have to lose your Steam account to lose your HI3 account. It is still very possible to lose your Steam account, but as long as you have access to your Steam account you have your HI3 account.
  • You can use your Steam wallet to top up.
  • Steam tracks your hours played (some custom launchers do this too for those with Hoyoverse accounts.)

For many captains the lack of Hoyoverse account features and lack of crossplay is a dealbreaker, but it's up to you how you plan on playing!

nimble nova
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i see, thanks ^^

lone crater
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speaking of which when next twitch reward, im broke

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is topping up with steam wallet cheaper tho

quick birch
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Nah

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You can theoretically just top up by selling other steam collectibles for example, the only real difference tbh

lone crater
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get to that csgo trading

junior mica
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What’s the fastest way to get more coins

shell basin
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selling unneeded weapons

foggy loom
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any suggestions what should i put in as 3rd(out of characters that would be available to someone who started to play very recently) in team of HLE(with weapon), FDD(no weapon tho), also got Chenxue in astral op if that changes anything

lone crater
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either vbm or something like ta or rc

shell basin
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Since VBM can let you do a full two cycles in SO

foggy loom
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whelp, VBM it is then

shell basin
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You know the rotation there?

foggy loom
shell basin
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Basically, go VBM, wa wa jump attack WA, QTE FDD, EWA, ult, qte HLE, Hold ult, WA, Hold ult, alternate basic attack sequence and hold ult until VBM buffs (orange circle with a 3 inside) almost wear off, then go back to VBM to jump attack WA and refresh them, and repeat

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You can refrain from applying the buffs if stellar outburst is ready, since that automatically applies them without needing to switch

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In stellar outburst, you go wa wa hold ult, QTE FDD, EWA, Ult, qte HLE, Wa wa hold ult finisher

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And remember to turn VBM QTE off, it wastes time.

There’s a couple of techs you can sometimes do depending on the run, like using VBM ult at the start of the battle or not ending stellar outburst instantly so you can do a few basic attacks

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But in general that’s what you’ll do

foggy loom
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thanks, is it worth upgrading VBM weapon or should i just keep it at something lower? and i assume there is no way in hell of clearing 70-80 q-manifold with this team right?

shell basin
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VBM weapon is worth doing if you have spare Honkai shards but it’s lower priority than HLE or Rita wep

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So prioritize having enough for those first

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Same deal with her stigmas, they’re nice to craft and have at level 35 but less important than HLE / FDD / Rita stigmas

maiden garden
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Is The hammer girl good?

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I just got her

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The black and white haired hammer girl

shell basin
maiden garden
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Yes

shell basin
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She’s the best free support

maiden garden
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Wait deadahh?

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That's nice

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Is she only good for that like ring team

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Ring of something

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Whatever she synergizes with forgot the name of it

shell basin
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In rite of Oblivion she is nearly BiS even counting gacha battlesuits

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In other ones she’s just better than everyone you don’t have to pay for

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(For Vita dps she’s either the third best or second best support, depending on the boss and run, for FDD she’s either 4th or 5th)

maiden garden
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Ok

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Thanks

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Also about how many story quests are there

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Let me rephrase

shell basin
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Newbies should expect to use her all the time for 2-3 patches until they have more options and still sometimes after that. so definitely worth building her.

maiden garden
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Would it take about 48 hours to get story quests done

foggy loom
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it's much longer

maiden garden
foggy loom
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we are talking hundreds of hours long

storm lantern
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please dont play 48 hours straight

maiden garden
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Are there any skip buttons

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Or options to skip certain events and still get rewards

shell basin
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Yes but it’s still long even if you skip

storm lantern
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yeah you can skip story

shell basin
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Because you still have to do the fights

maiden garden
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I minds as well try to enjoy the story

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Thing is I only play gacha games to gamble cuz I don't have much time to allocate to a story

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Thx for info tho

shell basin
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NP

storm lantern
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you can also find the story on youtube if you want

maiden garden
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Oh yeah btw I'm still not good at team building so what's the best team I can make with these chars

storm lantern
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lantern simp vbm or simp lantern vbm

shell basin
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Lantern simp Valkyrie Blastmetal or simp lantern vbm

storm lantern
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they both have weapon?

shell basin
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If either simp or lantern has weap use that one

maiden garden
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Who is lantern simp

shell basin
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Lantern is lone destruction shadow chaser

maiden garden
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Ah

shell basin
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Simp is Schicksals imperative

maiden garden
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Thanks also I never pulled for weapons

shell basin
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Then yeah they’re both a little cooked as dps but that’s still the best team probs

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You can get blastmetal weapon from part 2 story at least

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For free

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Very early on

maiden garden
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Wait I forgot is simp supposed to be played as a support for lantern

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Or are they the DPS and lantern the support

shell basin
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Leader is the dps, other two are supports, in part 2 (almost always, HoHE is a bit diff)

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So if simp is the leader they’re dps

storm lantern
shell basin
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If lantern is leader they’re are dps

shell basin
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There’s a lot of crystals in abyss

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Meta players can get 3-4 pulls a week from it at high levels

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But even lower power players shouldn’t ignore it

maiden garden
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That's nice income

storm lantern
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abyss and er are the vast majority of your income you can't really ignore them

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unless you whale a lot

crude rivet
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what do i do with my duplicate stigmatas help, who should i equip them to

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I'm getting overwhelmed with the game and i think im progressing too fast im level 55 rn and the only well built character i have is elysia

crude rivet
lone crater
shell basin
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Some stigmas can be a very cope option for other battlesuits but those battlesuits aren’t used either and definitely aren’t used with cope gear

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P2 stigmas have 90% of their effects for only one battlesuits

crude rivet
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ohh okayy thank youuu

hollow wing
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Hi I have a question. I’m not sure who to get in the asterite shop.

I'm considering a few factors but I don't know which is more important:

  • Whos meta
  • Whos good for characters I like
  • Whos a character I like
lone crater
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the ones in asterite shop r all pretty useless metawise

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but u mainly unlock them all/get them upgraded for passive bonuses

shell basin
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Unlocking and ranks on VBS, TA, Kira, and RC might not be useless as well, they have some MA usecases even without real gear and occasional cope teams for new players

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Everyone else is for dorm levels and Elysian realm unlocks

lone crater
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ma usecases r not rly real with no gear but yea mainly just vbm that has any use

shell basin
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It’s barely anything but not literally nothing

lone crater
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yea but im just saying the score is gonna be giga trash and atp anything they use that can deal dmg is about the same

shell basin
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Yh

midnight shard
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@low ridge I got her weapon before I uninstall honkai impact

raven bane
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can i only convert p2 stigs into source prism? or is there another use for them (duplicate ones of course)

serene crystal
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They have no other use then being converted

raven bane
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tf am i supposed to do

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my only proper valk is vita

shell basin
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Sorry what fight is this?

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Low level abyss?

raven bane
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mirage

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blade grave f6

shell basin
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Vita VBM VBS should be able to brute force mirage?

serene crystal
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Kallen is non-phys immune. You can clear with Vita or SSb from health loss on enhanced basic for vita

shell basin
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But not that one

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Because kallen is immune

shell basin
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Why do you need to clear physical f6 right now? And can you use someone like terminal aide?

raven bane
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for the gray crystal thingy

shell basin
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What do you need gray crystals for?

raven bane
shell basin
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Hmm. Well, if you’re really in a rush to get it you could try building a phys team, and buy Terminal Aide from the asterite shop for it

raven bane
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what exactly does she do iirc doesnt she only break def

lone crater
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she does physical damge

shell basin
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Terminal aide has a bunch of strong buffs and shield break and more relevantly here does physical damage

lone crater
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and hence can kill the boss DoroV

raven bane
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i dont think she can clear solo

lone crater
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u can give it a try

shell basin
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You could run like Vita VBM TA, use vita to clear the mooks and Vita + VBM to buff TA?

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And then Ta vs Kallen

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I think that ought to work, VBM’s buffs at least apply and Vita leader means you can have dreamseeker

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Who has a damage buff vs typeless at SSS

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In addition to being generic damage buffs

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I don’t have Vita but I can try it with paws, 1 moment

raven bane
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small issue

shell basin
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Wait no I’m stupid I already used up my invitations

raven bane
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i dont have vbm

shell basin
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She’s free. Part 2 story, or asterite shop

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She’s also the best support for Vita by far you could get

raven bane
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well uhh i can only afford one of them

shell basin
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So you should

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Then get VBM from the story and TA from shop

raven bane
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its going to take ages for me to get to p2 but whatever

shell basin
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P2 is unlocked by default

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It’ll take like 10 minutes to clear the bit you need for VBM + wep

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And it doesn’t have P1 spoilers until ch 3 which is way after you need

raven bane
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yeah i know it just that i wanna experience everything in right order

shell basin
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In that case uhh screenshot what Valkyries you have

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And I’ll try and come up with a cope phys team for you

raven bane
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i am too broke

shell basin
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You could try Terminal Aide Reverist Calico and Starry Impression

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Or maybe MPE over SI if you don’t have the XP

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To level up both her and TA

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TA + RC buff the psy character do deal with the mech enemies and then TA or the psy character deal with Kallen

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Could work

raven bane
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aight thanks

serene crystal
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Did a recheck LP is just possible with VBM, RC but pretty tight. May be a problem at lower level as you don't kill the earlier wave fast enough

shell basin
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And don’t want to get her

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So prolly cooked

raven bane
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nono i can get her

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but you said get ta first

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and then get the vbm from the story

shell basin
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Well yeah I reccomended that because I thought it’d be more helpful to get yeh character that was free for free.

shell basin
raven bane
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well i mean if only buying vbm works i can just get her rn

shell basin
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I’d guess no if it was tight with weapon but maybe

raven bane
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i didnt buy ta yet

raven bane
proper quiver
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holy i improved my last score by 200

shell basin
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Anyway you could buy VBM and try using her with Vita and RC / VBS, or you can try MPE / VBM / RC, or you can buy TA and do one of the things I suggested before

proper quiver
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why does everyone and their mother have dudu, PS and jD??????

shell basin
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Dunno which of these will work

serene crystal
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For this to work you need to be above 2:30. SI also gives about a 1 minute extra leeway for me over RC since she actually deals phys damage but that is higher atk + SS SI

low ridge
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What team do I use for this abyss I don’t have any physical

shell basin
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Sleep.

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You could try FDD dps or HLE dps but probably neither retains

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No type advantage or weather bonus

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Maybe if you’re in A3 and lucky bracket?

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But anyone with RS or Trio or PS or Horb or maybe even just fish is gonna outscore if they know how to play

serene crystal
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Fish is JDS or what valk are you thinking about?

shell basin
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fish is jds yes

sweet flax
shell basin
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yeah maybe in A3 or A2

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wouldn't expect it to work in RL

sweet flax
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well if it helps from testing
ss ps, tfm, fdd > ss ps, s2 lp, fdd > s2 horb+2, fws, hofi > s2 hofi, ss hoo, ss hotr > jds, lp, mps > jds, lds, mps

this is what I got from my testing

storm lantern
sweet flax
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horb and ps were close in scores

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the rest were less than 700

sweet flax
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if ps has ranks she is better than s2 horb

shell basin
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yeah I scored pretty okay with just PS Badum FDD. Not good but could be worse

sweet flax
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trio is another option if its very invested (older players)

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s2 hofi might just be shit compared ot smth like ss/ss1

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ig ss3/sss hoo would also be a considerable boost to trio score

sweet flax
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slightly worse than tfm, though ig that makes sense

proper quiver
sweet flax
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was horb ungeared?

proper quiver
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no

sweet flax
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what team?

proper quiver
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horb hle sena

sweet flax
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300?

proper quiver
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ill try again but

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my horb weapon is lile level 50 r something

sweet flax
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do you have someone other than sena

proper quiver
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fws no weapon

sweet flax
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since I dont think she has physical breach

proper quiver
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fdd

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thats about it

proper quiver
sweet flax
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no comment

proper quiver
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actually its 60

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i think i used her for sampo

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would fdd/fws be better than sena

sweet flax
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fdd no

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fws maybe

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hard to say

proper quiver
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should i do 4% phys or crit for gene

sweet flax
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physical, crit rate bonus is kinda useless

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what rank are you in

proper quiver
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a3

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what does locking blades do, does it deal dmg or apply a debuff

sweet flax
#

is that the phase 2 thing where you have to deflect his attacks?

proper quiver
#

yes

proper quiver
lone crater
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deflect 3 times and get dmg buff

sweet flax
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each time you deflect one of his 3 attacks, it takes off 1/3rd of his seed hp (the smaller hp bar on top) and deflecting all 3 gives a damage buff

lone crater
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did it specify melee or not

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i alr forgotten

sweet flax
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I think so

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im gonna do a run rn anyways so if didnt ill let you know

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but im 99.9% sure it did

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nvm maybe not

proper quiver
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i tried doing it with hle and got smacked around

lone crater
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i see, yeah i wouldnt know cuz all my units were melee

sweet flax
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oh ye ingame it mentions melee

lone crater
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horb does better than trio and hle for me

sweet flax
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for me too

proper quiver
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i just realised my horb stigmasd have no affixes

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her attack is low but whatever

sweet flax
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ngl horb fws hle feels kind of.... eh

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but why'd my score drop that much from switching hofi to hle

lone crater
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either horb hofi hle or horb hofi fws

proper quiver
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wish i had hofi dlc

sweet flax
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90 score diff is crazy

proper quiver
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my run gets messed up everytime by something different

sweet flax
proper quiver
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like i got 520 because my horb didnt have enough sp to use ult in so, and my next so was late

proper quiver
sweet flax
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not enough sp for ult in so? huh

proper quiver
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her ult takes 75 sp i think i used ult right before so

sweet flax
proper quiver
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so i didnt have enough

sweet flax
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ill record a run, its not gonna be "omg insane top 1%" kind of run, but should help get an idea what you can do

proper quiver
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also my so rotation is hle start, do her thing, fws does hers, then horb

sweet flax
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since you are in a3 you should be able to apply it

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what elfs/aops do you have

proper quiver
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uhhh

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the free ones

sweet flax
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so just ds?

proper quiver
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yes

glad ice
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om insane top 1%

sweet flax
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you can probs do better since I fk'd up near the end of p2

proper quiver
#

why is ur attack so high??

glad ice
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yeah outfit so high as whell

lone crater
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outfit + 999

proper quiver
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ur doing so much more damage than me

sweet flax
sweet flax
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just because of the disturbance diff

lone crater
#

everything got weap + stig?

sweet flax
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this isnt meant to be 100% copied, but rather a ref

lone crater
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u should match or outdmg

sweet flax
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such as noting when I use my so, how I apply buffs etc...

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there is the bilix2 nirv run sent as well if you cant match

proper quiver
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oh ive been using horbs weapon skill so wrong..

lone crater
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ik when im playing on diff accounts, guy maybe has 1300 atk, but copying ios rl ref, which is like 20d higher, the dmg basically matches, even tho ref is 120 atk higher

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so u should be fine yea

proper quiver
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even if no fws weapon and she has underleveld stigs?

lone crater
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well thats why i was saying a bit at the start, do u have a full team with everyone with weap and stuff

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but u dont need to copy exactly not like u can

proper quiver
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i have the team in the vid but fws is chopped

lone crater
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but u get the idea

sweet flax
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should be fine

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fws doesnt really do much other than ari gen and trigger resonance

lone crater
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ws supports dont do mcuh dmg, they just a tool

sweet flax
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as long as horb is geared you should be fine

grim meadow
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guys do i use jds or ps for this abyss weather?

sweet flax
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ps

grim meadow
#

alrr

sweet flax
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I found better results with her compared to jds at least

glad ice
#

jds wod dps is....

sweet flax
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(assuming you dont have rs ofc)

sweet flax
glad ice
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no bug for u

sweet flax
#

fish skip too op

proper quiver
sweet flax
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songque? she sucks for horb anyways

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you prefer using pb or serapeum

storm lantern
#

hoyo hates all the tech that makes f2ps score well TeriCry

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||they're killing ba4 cancel too||

proper quiver
sweet flax
#

hle

proper quiver
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i got 565

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how likely are we gonna get a crystal top up reset next patch

sweet flax
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we only get top up resets during glb anni

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(cny)

proper quiver
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isnt next patch cny

sweet flax
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nope

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cn will enter 8.7 around the time cny starts

proper quiver
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oh right patches are 2.5 months not 3

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i felt so stupid

sweet flax
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better to remember it as patches are 8-10 weeks and cn is 4 weeks ahead of glb

proper quiver
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so i can top up the biggest pack for 8.6 and get the top up reset for 8.7

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cool

sweet flax
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since cn is entering 8.7 on feb 6, it only makes sense that for cny (which starts mid feb) to also be in 8.7

proper quiver
sweet flax
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it used to be similar for both since patches were just 6 weeks

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but longer patches screw with things a bit

proper quiver
#

the next hsr patch is looking like hi3 length all of my games r gonna be so dry

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its 40k crystal to garuentee full gear right

sweet flax
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40.6k to garuntee on debut banner (1.4k crystal discount 50% off)
otherwise 42k to garuntee

proper quiver
#

r we getting spending event?

sweet flax
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not next patch

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there will probs be one in 8.7 tho

proper quiver
#

okok

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hope i can get 8.6 valk..

sweet flax
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if you have existing pity it can be possible

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otherwise want the harsh truth?

lone crater
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i like candy

proper quiver
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im not pulling in hsr for 3.8 so my gacha funds are all for hi3

proper quiver
lone crater
storm lantern
proper quiver
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  • i havent touched p2
lone crater
#

since they removed difficulty modes i forgot if they moved those crystals into story itself or those just disappeared

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would be funny if it was latter

proper quiver
proper quiver
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theres 30 xtals if you clear all stages full star in a specific set of stages

lone crater
glad ice
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they moved it (xtal of hard/nightmare mode) into starter manual

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there are reward for x/x star earned as well

lone crater
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thats some qol there

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now they deont get to expeireice getting tapped by the hard challenge mobs

lone crater
glad ice
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i dont really rmb exactly. but u got the idea, just hard mode and harder mode

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saying they moved it is not really correct too. they remove this and add that, which make it easier to get those xtal (to some extend, bcs powercreep make hard/insane mode meaningless)

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i also rmb the hard and insane stage cost a lot of stamina too

proper quiver
#

i hate doing the story without using my own valks

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why ive only done half

glad ice
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well, bcs it will be boring if u just smash it with ur overpowered newest valks

proper quiver
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its more boring doing it without using them

glad ice
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its hard work and thrilling of challenge

proper quiver
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its not evene hard its just tedious

glad ice
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it would be, if u dont treat it as ur source of xtal and wanna rush it

frosty kernel
#

guys is it better to use this hohe for hle or just stick to vbm (sss)?

sweet flax
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Yep, hohe is better since she has the goi ring tag

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You'd only prefer using vbm as a filler where you dont have a support for that ring

frosty kernel
#

yee it felt better, but i still dont know what i do when i switch to hohe like on ar or not

novel path
zenith vale
#

for affixes, it doesnt matter what type of ATK (like just straight up ATK, X wep typ ATK, char type ATK) as long as its ATK right?

like ill use HoH as an ex, as long as I either get ATK or psy type ATK or bow ATK, itll be fine? ofc taking whatever is the higher one whenever i reroll?

rain cobalt
#

hi! ive been a returnee for around 15 days, and i just joined the server to look for some help in game. i saw the pins, and i read that it would be better to restart than keep playing as a returnee, and i was wondering if its really better to do that than to keep playing, since ive already got some characters i like a lot + i dont think id want to restart.

should i do it anyways? (the screenshots are the only things i think are worth to show, other stuff like older battlesuits and basic weapons dont feel that important to show)
im really in doubt now because ive just got to Ch. 29 as well + finished all of the elysian realm story...

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most of these battlesuits i got from the memorial shop + fragments from the shop

lone crater
lone crater
# rain cobalt hi! ive been a returnee for around 15 days, and i just joined the server to look...

restarting for most returnees is better options where majority of their old valks are outdated + they dont have much one time crystals left,
so restarting becomes not a bad choice, since you will be able to essentially catch up a lot sooner with the one time crystals you wouldnt have
but its not strictly necessary you do so, if you feel very much attached to the old one u have, its fine to just keep playing, and just know that you will prob need to save a bit more longer, and i do see u have hle and her new weap, so its not the end of the world or anything

rain cobalt
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i missed HoRB's supply gacha im pretty sure and i really wanted to use her, but thankfully i did get HLE stigma and her weapon as well.
problem is that i dont have dragonlie and newyearskiana so i cant do her best team

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i think the worst mistake ive done is pulling on the costume gacha for HoRB's outfit and now ive done lots of pulls on HoHE's outfit as well...

sweet flax
#

her best team isnt limited to those 2, its dependant on weather

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the important thing for hle is that her supports have the symbiosis tag

rain cobalt
#

i was 1 pull away from HoRB's outfit too but i couldnt get the last crystals i needed.

rain cobalt
sweet flax
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you can check ingame, click on hle's tags and click the symbiosis one

rain cobalt
#

oh smol durandal is on supply, should i get her then?

sweet flax
sweet flax
rain cobalt
#

alrighty

zenith vale
odd merlin
#

Hii Guys! I'm an returnee for 16 Day and joined this Server to ask for help about if i should restart or not?SenadinaStare

ancient needle
odd merlin
ancient needle
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Ideally restart then if you're willing to

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Keep in mind in the future that when pulling valks you wanna be getting their sig weaps

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And if you can't afford the weap you skip the valk

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The pins here have a lot of useful info, this is a good starting point:

#

!faq lost

small willowBOT
# ancient needle !faq lost
Feeling Lost?

I got this, Captain! AichanLol

The following guides are a good starting point to help you feel like you know what you're supposed to be doing as Captain of the Hyperion!

See the channel pins of #šŸ‘¶beginner-help for more:

light vortex
#

How do I exit this, I entered this by accident.

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I'm trying to have elysia back as my character.

glad ice
#

go to world and switch to display team in stead of DS

light vortex
glad ice
#

or u can choose another bridge by clicking name > change bridge at bottom

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ur name is Player xyz

light vortex
#

THANK YOU, was tired of seeing her.

glad ice
#

u can switch to other char

light vortex
#

alr

maiden garden
#

Is the Elysia lantern rite char you get for free good

glad ice
#

if u meant her, she need her new weapon (currently in gacha) to be usable in meta

ionic magnet
#

what do I do if my bp levels aren't rising even if I do the missions

glad ice
#

u reach max lvl per week

ionic magnet
#

oh

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should I use this box?

cedar gale
#

Is the curent battle suit supply good?

glad ice
# ionic magnet should I use this box?

use or save doesnt matter. the weapon is old and not worth lvling up, it will only give u +10atk passive in dorm's divine keys. we recommend to collect all keys for the accumulated +atk though

glad ice
lone kindle
#

the only one "worth" would be hohe dkey and its whale only terriroty

sweet flax
#

tl;dr dont pull

lone kindle
#

exactly

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just save all your xtals

cedar gale
#

Is this good for lvl 37
It's agony btw

lone kindle
#

but even if you dont use them, divine keys give general atk buff

lone kindle
#

wouldnt you remember that it was before begginners by any chance?

sweet flax
sweet flax
lone kindle
#

sorry, level numbers

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in my records begginers started at 38

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not 25

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maybe it was just wrong tho

sweet flax
#

it was 25

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for a while at least

lone kindle
#

i mean, ive been exalted since like 2020

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things sure have changed a lot

sweet flax
#

oh sencho

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you are confusing beginners abyss for beginners ma

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ma unlocks at lvl 38

lone kindle
#

oh, that could be true

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but its kinda different

sweet flax
#

idk ive been calling it lvl 35-55 abyss for a long time now

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maybe it did change from 30 smth to 25

lone kindle
#

yeah, the thing is its not "abyss begginers"

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its abyss for BEGGINERS captains

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and when they reach 38 ma unlocks

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and they get into their respective tier (begginers)

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but its not "its own abyss"

sweet flax
#

welp the tier now starts with abyss unlock

lone kindle
#

dont know if im expalining myself in here

sweet flax
#

no point complaining

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I swear everyime I make an alt to collect info on beginner changes

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they make something new when the alt is exalted

lone kindle
#

yeah i also suffered the same when we made the es/mx begginers guide

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its still pinned and unupdated tho

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but its imposible for only two people to keep everything updated by themselves

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(without reaching a burnout at least)

cedar gale
#

How much do you need to promot from agony to redlotus

sweet flax
#

beside floor 10 you will see a clear within 120s requirement

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that's the only requirement to promote in q-manifold

lone kindle
#

its written in the rules in there, but yeah, what asu said

cedar gale
#

I cleared in 1:52

lone kindle
#

then you should be promoting

sweet flax
#

should also say finalization: promotion

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or smth like that

cedar gale
#

Bruh I'm just lvl 37 the hell am i supose to do in redlotus

lone kindle
#

the same the rest of the lvl 37 do

sweet flax
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the same thing you did in agony

lone kindle
#

you are not against lvl 81+ everyone in those levels have more or less the same stuff

sweet flax
#

btw until masters redlotus q-manifold is mostly a joke with a couple of road bumps

lone kindle
#

(pretty much nothing)

lone kindle
#

and ngl, even in exalted the thing only changes a bit

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its not that much of a feat for an invested player to get to red lotus

cedar gale
#

Aha…i use HoHE RC and VBm

lone kindle
#

better than nothing

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as we said, most of the players in those tiers just struggle with what they have

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its not like "you are handicapped"

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everyone is

cedar gale
#

No what i want ask is how my rotations should be?

sweet flax
#

does hohe have her dkey

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flawless benediction

cedar gale
#

No i don't have it

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I got her for free so i don't have her weapon

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I use the forged bow on her

sweet flax
#

Well for the meantime your rot will be vbm 2 weapon attacks > jump > attack > weapon attack to do the blast attack on the floor (make sure this hits an enemy)
You will see 3 stacks above your hp bar indicating that you have your vbm buffs up, and if you hit an enemy with the jump attack into weapon it applies a vulnerability, if stacks are about to run out switch back to her and use her jump attack into weapon again

For rc make sure her bar is purple (can switch it with weapon skill) then hold atk when its full, you can also just use your ultimate instead if its available for the same buffs

On hohe its mostly hold atk until 3 seeds above enemy then weapon skill to detonate

And you repeat this process until hohe has enough sp to ult

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You can also check the ingame guide for each of the characters

sweet flax
# cedar gale I use the forged bow on her

That's perfectly fine, just dont upgrade it past 35/35 otherwise you lose resources
Also do not get key of ego from your box in beginner manual its not worth it despite being hohe's old weapon
Preferably unlock rc's chakram (purana phantasma i think it was called)

cedar gale
#

What box?

sweet flax
#

Check your manual, one of the tabs will give you a weapon choice box after a certain amount of pulls

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No need to rush it, but just keep in mind that hohe weapon isnt recommended to pick up from it

cedar gale
#

Should i forge stigmas for elysia

tidal thorn
#

Ah, sorry if this is not the right place to ask but I have my starter supply ticket, should I pull Deepspace Anchor First Light or Jovial Deception Shadowdimmer?

serene crystal
#

Neither starter banner is not worth it

#

What Elysia? @cedar gale Please give battlesuit names or something else that can identify them.

tidal thorn
#

Thanks I figured out that the guide video is old and I guess they couldn't pull on a current banner, therefore since I need to pull on starter banner once for the stater manual, growth regimen, I should use the ticket on the current banner and then use crystals on the starter banner JUST ONCE to fulfill the requirement on growth regimen

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Is that about right?

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I just started yesterday

serene crystal
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Yes just do one pull and nothing more. DAFL is probably slightly more value.

tidal thorn
#

Got it thanks

serene crystal
#

Only get Solon if you have Flawless benediction else just run Peary or another P1 ice set

tidal thorn
#

Which is better value HoHE or HoT?

sweet flax
#

check the first pin

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tl;dr neither

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makes no difference who you choose assuming both s0

tidal thorn
#

Ok nice, thanks a lot

lone tide
#

how much crystals is the outfit banner? i want hohes outfit...

#

oh 7680 okay

lone tide
#

from these valks, which one should i pick, if any? one of the options is also available in the gold egg thingy

serene crystal
#

The only value any of these have longterm is as ER crystals and stress test look at the War treasury pin for which are available in ER

serene crystal
#

Azure Empyrea is not in ER and you want to pick something else for this reason.

lone tide
#

good to know ty

tidal thorn
maiden garden
#

3 hours SakuraWTF

Nvm it's 2 I'm blind lol

jolly pulsar
jolly pulsar
# tidal thorn

The guys who made this will update it one day

Still making a new script I heard

maiden garden
#

Looks like a fate watch order guide video from the thumbnail Dorysia

jolly pulsar
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Ha

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jolly pulsar
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I haven't gotten far but I've been doing my best to separate what's evergreen from what isn't, which isn't hard

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Everyone's been so helpful, I appreciate it

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What team archetype is the strongest

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The one that has the newest character on banner and their designated weather in endgame

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There is no strict best team as bosses have pretty strong restrictions on what works well enough to at least retain redlotus so you want as much coverage as possible at a high enough level of investment that you can win your bracket. This is generally S0 with weapon.
The generally recommended pull this patch is HLE but on the current boss she is losing pretty badly to RS for example. So you want a roster which can win more then it loses, the main way you get there is by getting the new valk each patch and let old options die as their bosses get more and more scarce.

The restrictions come from two broad factors: the weather which is a large independent buff/debuff which advantages certain setups and specific boss mechanics including type but also extending to hit count requirements or anything else fight specific.
@maiden garden

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do we get enough prims on a patch to fully upgrade a valk?

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without counting with salvaging stigs

jolly pulsar
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I don't think so. It takes 21 to fully upgrade a full set assuming you get them all (otherwise +2 for each you further craft)

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due to the high odds of rolling stigs from the gacha, you're expected to salvage some. But of course, luck can say otherwise one way or another

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!faq prism

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Source Prism

Hi, Captain! AichanCrystals

[Click here](#šŸ‘¶beginner-help message) for more information about Prisms such as their sources!

Source Prisms are a very limited resource, so please be very careful not to waste them. They are used to upgrade and craft Part 2 Stigmata (all Part 2 Stigmata are forgeable).

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thanks, yeah i didnt think so also cause im always out of them xD

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novel path
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if you need to use them both for significant use cases, consider leveling the stigs to x/45 (semifinal upgrade) (this only costs 3 instead of 7 prism per upgrade. Considerably cheaper)

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after looking to this xD

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keep in mind for double release patches (new gacha s rank and a stellar key nowadays) we do get a prism ticket to max out a stig from nothing

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was asking cause i was considering pulling dudo

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so just gonna wait and save prisms for the new valk

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yeah sounds good. Backpulls aren't recommended anyway if you're on a limited budget of some kind including resources

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saw so many vids of this abyss with dudo + ps and her dmg

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until i saw my prims xD

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yeah this current abyss is physical with an imaginary enemy. The only dps that suits both of these with astral ring is durandal

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at this point durandal is several patches old and that sort of situation is not as common now

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this boss is very niche and hasn't been seen since dudu's debut patch

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keep in mind your crystal budget is limited too unless you're a whale spender. It's normal otherwise to not cover every situation and it's better to give up the less occurring situations to handle the more common ones (newest releases)

outer spruce
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dudu isn't really used anywhere else and her as a support is rarely used

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if you pick up durandal now, you're giving up on a different valk in the future, and every valk has their own scenarios specific to them. So what you're doing is giving up those scenarios instead. It's a trade off.

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I have FWS, PS, PAWS, FDD and HLE, what team should I use for this abyss

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+50% PHYS

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ik PS should be the leader but what teammates should she use

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-50% LIGHTNING

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HLE doesnt work for PS

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that leaves u FWS and FDD

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ic

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the -50% lightning makes FWS better than PAWS as a support?

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FWS is better than a lot of other LoA supp bcs her shift can stop timer (1.5 + 1.5 weapon)

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weapon only grants timestop if FWS is leader

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FWS generally has really fast animations is how i see it. Not sure how her buff compares

PAWS being lightning certainly discourages her, and supports on an LoA with their stellar shifts do contribute more damage than other teams. You can still give her a quick try though. Support damage is still a small part of the whole picture and sometimes some other reason can justify them

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I see

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Is Senti's Sig Weapon more worth then Ranking her up to S1?AponiaDerpNggt

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i recommend u not buying HoS stamp with balls

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she's farmable in War Treasury

novel path
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can someone take a look at my run pls

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i showed another run today and was given some pointers but i feel like im doing bad still

glad ice
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and the divine keys in reserve shop should be the highest priority of ur ball as well
unless u really simp for senti and dont care about other things

fallen shale
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ok wow this is a very laggy boss

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not a good time to be stuck on mobile still >.<

novel path
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this is a very laggy dc

fallen shale
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PS is also the laggiest valk I have

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lord help me lol

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Turn off your damage numbers, turn down your quality settings except for fps

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PS does alot of hits so maybe that's what makes her so laggy for you

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I was already on the lowest settings but I didn't know the damage numbers were contributing to the problem

glad ice
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u dont stay in dps with LoA. qte, weapon, combo etc then qte the next

novel path
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check the tutorial of PS

fallen shale
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is the setting to remove damage numbers called "close"?

glad ice
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never do basic with a LoA

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i think so chaos

novel path
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LoA is PS's ring

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please use the glossary in the future

fallen shale
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also should I turn off physics

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LoA is law of ascension. the ring type of PS sushang. This ring type playstyle wants you to QTE alot

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Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain! AichanCool

Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!

Since 7.3, all new Valkyries will use the Astral Ring system. You must charge Astral Ring Intensity (ARI) to max to enter Stellar Outburst. The team leader determines the active Astral Ring Specialization.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

[Click here](#šŸ‘¶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!

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ok thanks

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read the LoA link here for more details

fallen shale
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holy fuck I turned off physics and now my main menu is running at 60fps

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but badum and sparkly dmg is so bad here, that its worth rotating their qte still? outside of using badum

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i thought staying in ps would be worth it cause of the 50% phy

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read the faq

novel path
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ok thanks

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their qte then combo atk/weapon will RESET dps qte

odd merlin
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also heavenly link

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yeah that, in LoA dps will add 1 big signature atk to supp qte. 2 supps = 2 heavenly links

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so i would be jumping to their qte like PS-badum-ps-sparkle-ps-badum?

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or do like ps-badum-sparkle

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ight the performance is definitely a lot better

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still very laggy but a lot less laggy

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thanks for the suggestions guys

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ps badum sparkle, make use of their stellar drain and then use SO

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What is "Trauma"

Trauma is inflicted on a target and accumulates. When there is enough trauma, it will trigger a matching status ailment. For certain stages and enemies, it can also trigger specific interactions.

Trauma can be inflicted by various methods including effects from Valkyrie skills, weapons, stigmata, and stages.

ā€œTrauma,ā€ ā€œstatus,ā€ and ā€œdamageā€ are distinct terms even when they share the same name (e.g., Ignite trauma ≠ Ignite status ≠ Ignite damage).

Understanding the Trauma Icon

  • When inflicting trauma, an icon centered below the enemy's HP will display.
  • The picture in the center shows what kind of trauma is inflicted.
  • The circular bar surrounding the icon is accumulated trauma, filling in a clockwise direction. Once filled, the status is triggered.
  • When the status is triggered, the center area will be filled and decrease from top to bottom for the remaining duration of the active status.
  • Against some enemies, after a status expires a cooldown period will start where the trauma icon will turn gray. That trauma cannot be inflicted until this period is over.

Kinds of Trauma

  • Control Conditions: Paralyze, Rime (causes Freeze), Stun
    • These may pause or even stop an enemy's action.
    • Typical duration: ~5 seconds.
    • In a few cases, these status may cause other effects to be extended.
  • Damage Conditions: Ignite and Bleed
    • These deal damage over time (DoT) that are not Melee nor Ranged, scaling from the Valkyrie that inflicted the status.
    • Typical duration: ~10 seconds.
    • Bleed damage is physical but cannot crit.
    • Some Fixed DMG-only (hitcount) shields can be reduced by bleed.
  • Heavy Atk.
    • Interacts with very specific states from old bosses (SS Heimdall/SS Tonatiuh).

Other General Trauma Mechanics

  • Stages and enemies may have interactions with specific kinds of trauma. These are very separate from status ailments. Fulfilling these interactions can result important effects such as removal of damage reduction or high vulnerability on an enemy.
    • Some effects can also be very minor where skipping it can be considered.
    • Possible trauma interactions may display a trauma icon above the on-field target as opposed to the usual location below the enemy hp bar.
  • Trauma can interact with enemies differently.
  • Some enemies may be less susceptible or even immune to specific kinds of trauma.
  • When trying to repeat the same status on a boss, they may also gain a higher trauma requirement than the first time. This resets upon a phase change.
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also never knew we had a trauma mega faq

maiden garden
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Why is HI3 so hard to understand

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Like I'm playing 6 different stories at once and they don't even start from the beginning

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Like am I supposed to know and care about these chars?

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Is this the problem with not being a D1 HI3 player

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# maiden garden Like I'm playing 6 different stories at once and they don't even start from the ...

#šŸ“šhonkai-lore pins should have a recommended order for how to take in its story. Be careful of reading posts there and getting spoiled though.

If you're jumping into events+voyager log (past events), you're going to run into all sorts of stories that may be going off of some pre-existing context already.

Otherwise for main story, beware that it's possible to jump straight to the "Part 2" of the main story, or even to the latest chapter (new story additions are treated as events so there are limited rewards. A player who doesn't care about story may opt to jump to not miss out)

Part 1's main story does start in the middle of something though so even being a d1 player doesn't really avoid that. There are some official mangas that take place before it chronologically speaking. Again Lore channel can handle that.

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The following concerns side modes

Open world does have stories too. Mainly consider putting off A Post Honkai Odyssey 1 and 2 for now.

Elysian Realm also relates to the main story. It occurs after Chapter 25 of part 1.

We do have a firm no story policy here btw (bottom of pins). What you said so far is fine but just saying this preemptively before any actual story details come up.

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What team for this?

quick birch
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Probably the one you've already selected

rotund roost
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What team for this?

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err

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i already switched to NA but im still getting pinged for EU pings how to remove my role LanternHeavyThoughts

stuck vapor
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What is worth taking here?

haughty elbow
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cards

stuck vapor
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either

stuck vapor
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Is the mid girl in the banner gonna be there for a long time?

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Will any reruns be soon?

rotund roost
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Thank you

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So nobody knows what will be after her banner

sweet flax
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Though keep in mind anything not announced globally will be regarded as spoilers concerning next patch

cedar gale
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Which one should i pick(goal:future HoHE main)

sweet flax
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Purana phantasma (rc weapon), if you want to make hohe relevant you'd pull her dkey on banner rn, keep in mind competitively this isnt recommended

cedar gale
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Who is ourna phatadma for?

shell basin
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Reverist Calico

cedar gale
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She's a suport for HoHE rigth?

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# cedar gale Which one should i pick(goal:future HoHE main)

can i ask what kind of HoHE main you're looking to become?

The idea of maining doesn't really exist honestly. This is because the main competitive mode of HI3 (Abyss) constantly changes across many scenarios so one single team or dps cannot handle all of it (let alone much of it).

If you just want to get everything related to HoHE, consider Key of Ego which is her first signature weapon. It is the worst weapon to get here since HoHE has a complete replacement now (albeit gacha only) that outclasses it several folds with new functions for modern teams.

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With part 1 gear, yes. With part 2 gear she’s pretty cope but you won’t have a lot of options for a while even if you pull dkey

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And RC can technically support HoHE dkey just not like. Well, compared to her BiS team

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RC can support anyone simply because her buffs and debuffs are "Total Damage" which affects all damage types.

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you can check it out from her skills > top right special attack section > plan b (debuff)

and also skills > left passive section > idr the skill name but one of them unlocks at S rank to buff the team against frozen enemies

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So if i got HoHE dkey grom the box it's a bad investment but if i go the one for RC it will ne a good investment for any team
Did i get that rigth

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no

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the hohe weapon in the box is not a divine key

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it's just her old signature weapon and completely obsoleted now

cedar gale
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Ok

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her recent new weapon which is a divine key is in the gacha atm

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basically it's dlc added for her to refresh her into the meta

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gives her very new functions to make her work with the new team building (astral ring)

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we don't recommend it because if you're pulling for meta, you'll get better mileage from a new release

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but meta and casual isn't really binary either. There can be a balance you can personally decide upon

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!faq weap

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Beginner Weapon Option

Hi, Captain! AichanCrystals

Ai-chan recommends that you keep the box until you have a use case for one of the weapons. Both Purana Phantasma and Nocturnal Stealth have their uses. Key of Ego is generally not recommended.

If you insist on opening the box immediately, Purana is likely to have more usage long-term due to the team tdm buff and RC being able to quickly debuff enemies which may be useful for SS MA.
-# Please note that you definitely should not rush to PRI-ARM these weapons, they are not a good investment of PRI materials.

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Purana mainly gives 15% total damage to the team iirc? So it's something on a useful unit early game.

But RC falls off eventually. She ultimately doesn't have astral ring stuff.

cedar gale
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Pk so tue curent weapon supply bow is her new signature which is a dkey and a medium investment

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do hohe's outfit's effects apply with ar activated?

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ok so the current weapon? is that what you mean to say?

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Ar activated is just her ult

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note the timestamp

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but you can see it with the outfit here

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i can go into more details if needed

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Sairaan

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what's up

sweet flax
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Faq finished?

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i don't see the short version yet but you can scroll up for the long version

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If you could only tell me how my rotations should be with the team you gave me(HoHE VBm and RC)

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HI3 isn't a game about blindly repeating a rotation btw. While rotations do still exist, to optimize further you need to know your valks so you can fine tune and adjust them to best fit the boss' hp

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You told nd to saep every 10 to 15 secs but not how to teigger the wanted boosts

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!faq pyramid

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Gacha Outfits

Be careful, Captain! AichanWhale

Please see Professor Lyo's summary [here](#šŸ‘¶beginner-help message) Regarding Gacha (Pyramid) outfits.

Gacha (Pyramid) Outfits

  • DO NOT PULL UNLESS YOU CAN HARD PITY. NON-NEGOTIABLE.
    • You need 9600 Crystal or 7680 Crystal if there is a discount.
  • No competitive benefit.
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i was 60 off. I was close

sweet flax
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I did not even mention seconds in that message

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I told you how vbm and rc buffs are applied and told you to check the ingame guide for hohe dps rot

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i remember telling someone about RC's debuff lasting 15s

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anyway if you're going after hohe's newer weapon maybe we should talk about astral ring

cedar gale
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Idr anymore I've been craming high school test studies and hi3rd grinding…i passed out in class one time

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ok we don't need to get into personal details

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Ok

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and keep in mind this is only a game. Please prioritize real life responsibilities

acoustic tundra
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hi3 is a complicated game so don't expect to understand it all in one go either. it'll take time

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and yeah as long as you understand it's all fine

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Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain! AichanCool

Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!

Since 7.3, all new Valkyries will use the Astral Ring system. You must charge Astral Ring Intensity (ARI) to max to enter Stellar Outburst. The team leader determines the active Astral Ring Specialization.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

[Click here](#šŸ‘¶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!

cedar gale
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Ok so what is the astral ring

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start from the last faq here

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you can think of astral ring as a mode that's turned on if a newer valk is set as the leader. From having it on, alot of effects and features become active.

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the main mechanic is stellar outburst which is the big blude burst-like button that charges up

cedar gale
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So i should put VBm as leader of my ream for that?

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prob not in this case.

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you're trading away hohe's leader skill in the process, and without her new weapon hohe isn't really benefiting from having astral ring on

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Ok

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anything beyond that you can consult the faq

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it's not intuitive but once you get the idea it's actually quite simple

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this is very foundational to modern teams so it's highly recommended you digest it sooner than later

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every newer team revolves around astral ring

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non astral ring teams are basically heavily out of date now

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oh also, before you roll

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if you want to try out hohe with her new astral ring stuff, it's in her tutorial section in the game

cedar gale
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Also whats tje ELF system

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it's just the part 1 system

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instead of an astral op as the fourth member of your party, you use an ELF. The functions differ (there's no stellar outburst. instead you get an ELF ult)

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HoHE Stellar Key Considerations

  • note you can try this out for free in her tutorial menu via Attack > Events (Tab) > Tactics Class > HoHE

benefits of hohe stellar divine key

  • it only costs 60 pulls at worst (17k crystals) if you already own hohe (which you get for free) edit: this was from a past event
  • since it's a [divine key](#šŸ‘¶beginner-help message), integrating (tune) it into your dorm menu will give you a global +10 atk buff (it's not much on its own but it adds up to matter in high meta)

it gives hohe [astral ring functions](#šŸ‘¶beginner-help message)

  • Wheel of Destiny ring type (for leader dps)
  • her tags (mainly for supporting) are
    • shadow star (matches with wheel of destiny)
    • heavenly shift (matches with law of ascension)
    • symbiosis (matches with grail of infinitude)
      so for only 60 pulls you're getting one dps role, and three support roles

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the cons are:

  • those 60 rolls can get more mileage on something more new
  • since you're new, your hohe is behind the competition. it's common at a competitive level for hohe to have ss rank or higher now (not recommended to pursue) (mine is ss3 already and i only rolled one valk card for her back when she was first released)
  • HoHE's dps role is niche, esp moreso with HLE's release who took away some scenarios from her
  • HoHE as a support is mostly lackluster except for symbiosis which she isn't the best at either.
  • HoHE as a dps is quite dependent on thelema/HLE for alot of her matchups. Thelema is highly not recommended to go out of your way for now.
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there's prob more i can say really

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Early on i think i told you to use hohe as a cheap budget team. A temporary one until you get new gacha stuff that far outclasses her. But her dkey isn't really what i meant.

cedar gale
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I just pulled this…is this a good stigma for her

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if you get her weapon then yes it's her signature stigmata

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but read that stigmata effects (including 2pc and 3pc set bonuses). It requires astral ring

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this is also why we recommended not crafting them

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because you'll get them primarily here first from the gacha supplies

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if you get the weapon and still don't have them then that's when you craft the rest

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btw, rather than taking a photo of your screen, consider learning the snipping tool or the print screen button if you're on windows

cedar gale
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I use a laptop and I'm new tonusong one so i got no clue what you just sayd

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google it then

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Windows + Shift + S or print screen takes a screenshot of your screen

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Then you can press ctrl + v to paste it

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it might depend on what kind of windows you're on

sweet flax
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Windows + Shift + S is also a built in Windows app called snipping tool if you want to open that instead

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and there can be other tools to achieve this too

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but overall be careful on the internet. You never know if you'll take a photo with something sensitive in it

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^

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print screen might get shorten to prnt scrn or prt scrn on some keyboards

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you may have to use a function/fn key to access it

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if you don't care then that's fine too but just be wary what kind of info you don't intend to reveal about yourself from these.

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if you want to find other photos you have taken then you can use discord's search feature.

type

  • "from: <your own discord name (not server name if it's different)>"
  • "has: image"
  • "in: <channel name>" if you have any particular place to search in
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but anyway enough of all this. I know I'm being extreme and sensitive but internet safety isn't anything to take lightly esp when AI is rampant

sweet flax
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that might be mobile only?

sweet flax
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Ah fk I forgot