👶beginner-help

[kind cliff]

Only the favorited valks are 4/4

idk if the gears matter but there they are

[odd plume]

HLE RS SI
RS vita SI

[shadow gyro]

vita ult weapon basics until mecha beam ult
jds qte ult(opt but its free dmg) hold atk
ps qte weapon ult hold atk weapon
switch btwn jds qte hold atk and ps stuff until SO

[kind cliff]

oh those, okay tysm! will try them
do u have a rot for them?

[grim meadow]

alr tyy

[shadow gyro]

SO:
ps stellar shift (spam basics for that part) then ult if available then weapon 3 times
jds hold atk then ult
keep switching to ps and jds like you did before SO until vita buffs are almost done
vita mecha stuff ult
then back to where u were @grim meadow

[knotty island]

hii i’m a returnee and i just came back and was wondering if i should go ahead and reroll on a new acc for HLE or should i continue with this, if continue what should i prio with progression and stuff

[shadow gyro]

your account isnt bad i would keep it
but if you wanna get hle faster then ill reroll

you would need a lot of unfinished content on ur returnee account to better get hle

[odd plume]

i use HLE PAW SI
so not very sure about RS but i guess you can do like this
start with SI breaking all bleed shield with combo > attack, hold attack > attack, hold attack and repeat till no more shield, then ult+wp skill
RS QTE combo ult
HLE QTE and do her thing
p1 done
start p2 with SI ult wp skill then HLE outburst, end after the first ult hold, do some more attack if vill v isnt dead yet
use SI to apply bleed at the end with normal attack then hold like before

[knotty island]

ohh okay i might just go ahead and reroll for hle since i kind of came back just for her but about the carnival supply or whatever its called, did i miss the time FWS was on there or does it rotate

[shadow gyro]

it does rotate but this round is the final round for all
for example if u miss ps u cant get her from this supply again

fws will show up so no worries

[knotty island]

thanjs

[odd plume]

idk if my combo is good btw, but it's enough for me

[knotty island]

wait does salting emails with a . In between still work for rerolling or is there a more efficient way

[shadow gyro]

i wanna try si in rl but im having a bad headache tbh..

[shadow gyro]

yes it works

[kind cliff]

oh okay tyvm! have agreat day!

[rotund roost]

what team for this

[quick birch]

HLE/paws/FWS should do pretty good

[amber finch]

queen is queening so hard rn

[rotund roost]

Uhh... I still don't have HLE weapon?

Any other?

[quick birch]

Oh, then FWS/JDS/paws ig

Can also try ps instead of paws but both should get you full rewards

[shadow gyro]

hle paws horb on sa, i have a ref for this
ps fws jds on chicken since loa is good against it
wtv on ss hov

[amber finch]

ok nvm its too shit im not doing this

[shadow gyro]

ref in question https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1pxxXziEuM/

[quick birch]

Horb No dkey

[shadow gyro]

oh

[lone tide]

what does must pick breach mean

[shadow gyro]

hoh might work but wont be as effective since horb n paws are spamming tf

[quick birch]

after you picked a Nexus signets the next time you pick the same signet there'll be a chance that you get an enhanced signet, one of those enhanced signets provides breach

[lone tide]

ty

[amber finch]

his hle no weap tho

[shadow gyro]

hmm then what mango suggested since i cant think of anything else

[rotund roost]

I'll get the new weapons with my next 2 pulls trust

[shadow gyro]

[rotund roost]

How long will it take to sss them all?

also is it the 32k crystal mark with dorm where you can buy all the elf box?

[maiden garden]

What to choose

[odd plume]

tbh, can't tell

[wicked pebble]

is mei free i like her

[maiden garden]

There's a lot of mei
Some are free some are not

[wicked pebble]

i have kiana right now

[maiden garden]

Which Kiana 😭
There so many

[wicked pebble]

idk i started like 10 min ago

[odd plume]

yes

[wicked pebble]

this one

[maiden garden]

Ah so you'll get a mei
A few of em tbh eventually

You can also get some from war treasury eventually

[wicked pebble]

ooo i got a free mei

[maiden garden]

[odd plume]

save the box unless you really need 10 atk now

[kind cliff]

yippie i got 600

[odd plume]

you are missing too many dkey, 1 more wont really do anything
and we may get more free dkey later, wouldn't want to get dupe

[maiden garden]

Ah i see

[kind cliff]

oh wait i only needed +100 to get to a2
ah, well, still, thank you very much for the help!

[maiden garden]

Also just to be sure

All war treasury battlesuits are on almost the same level of irrelevancy right?

I only need 39 more for my hof

Idk how smart of a desicion it would be but I also plan to get her weapon from reserve works

[odd plume]

some of them are ER valk that give 620 crystal once time only, but if you play long enough, you will get all of them, so if you are in need of crystal now, can focus on them first

hofs is ER valk

[maiden garden]

Oh

[maiden garden]

I see

[odd plume]

typo

[eternal spindle]

how much am i missing out if i want to keep ER until i reach the point in the story where i understand what the hell is going on lol (as in is there any weekly xtals im missing out or not, or stuff of the sort)

[odd plume]

500 crystal weekly

not much for 1 or 2 week

[eternal spindle]

ah, which chapter is it? might be able to focus on story to reach it before losing too much

[odd plume]

check reading order in #📚honkai-lore pin

[eternal spindle]

oh boy there's... a lot i've missed

[raven bane]

i am trying to play the story with the right order but when i try to play the chronicles it keeps saying my level is too low is there any way to just experience the story and nothing else? if its not possible then how can i quickly level up

[shadow gyro]

you can focus on doing more main story and dailies
and don't level up too many characters so you can level up the few that you'll use for these stuff without an issue

[raven bane]

i am following the hoyostans story progression guide and it tells me to play this chronicle first

[shadow gyro]

hmm i have not heard of that, can you link it?

[raven bane]

https://hoyostans.be/explore/honkai-impact-3rd/story-guide-hi3/hi3-phase-1/#anchor8

[drifting zealot]

!faq divine key weapons

[shadow gyro]

oh this is mentioning the manga as well, well the ingame system doesn't factor that, so if you tried multiple times to do chronicles and it doesn't let you then you don't have a choice but to do the other stuff to level up
but just to be safe level up the few characters that you use for this stuff and try again

[shadow gyro]

unfortunately you can't use that
only profs n mods can use commands in here
instead use the search function and write the name in there

[raven bane]

my valks levels arent the issue its my accounts level issue (i think)

[shadow gyro]

or look if its in pins already

[drifting zealot]

sorry newbie question which dk weapons should i pick

[shadow gyro]

hmm that can't be helped, guess you have to do main story and dailies until you get the level for chronicles

[raven bane]

damn

[rare otter]

Hello, question regarding stigmatas how would we obtain elf girl (T) & (B)? I've heard we can grind for them or?

[shadow gyro]

the cannon since its not obtainable right now
but you don't need to rush getting anything from this right now so you can keep it instead

[eternal spindle]

the hle stigs? u get them when you pull for weapon, or craft them

[shadow gyro]

which elf girl? there's 3 versions of elysia

[drifting zealot]

oh thank you captain

[rare otter]

Newest one, but i did obtain the other one given away recently. Sorry new to this game barley started so unfamiliar with all the names atm

[eternal spindle]

yea u get them when you pull for weapon

[shadow gyro]

ah that's fine
so you do get them from foundry and the supply
i suggest doing the latter since you want her bow as well

[shadow gyro]

make sure you alr have the character already
as the stigmata without the character is useless

[rare otter]

Thats the only way? I assume there are farmable replacements if so? I already have her weapon and herself including her elf girl with her key bow

[shadow gyro]

there's foundry but you do that if you got her bow and you don't have the full set already

[eternal spindle]

oh then you can craft them in the foundry

[maiden garden]

Foundry my goat

I had to craft 2 of my stigs despite getting to hard pity for her weapon

I just get a lil unlucky at times hehe

Wait not craft two

I got one from the box

[rare otter]

Ohh I see sadly I only have enough for one, does it matter which one I choose or?

[wicked pebble]

which characters are good

[storm lantern]

well there's good as in you should pull for them which is just newly released characters and good as in topscores a weather which is a lot broader

[wicked pebble]

a weather?

[maiden garden]

The new ones

[wicked pebble]

i only have 2 characters atm

[green gale]

Is it okay if I'm not able to get SD Elysia Weapon?

[storm lantern]

the boss + effects that buff certain kinds of damage/valk types/team compositions

[storm lantern]

no

[maiden garden]

Well you just started

[green gale]

I was able to get the 3 Stigma set.

Rip

I don't think I'll be able to

[storm lantern]

if you just mean for story crimson impulse is good

[maiden garden]

There's still 40? Days

[maiden garden]

Dont they give you story trial characters after like chapter 8-9 or smth

[storm lantern]

also when you get the prompt to pull on dorm you can cancel out of it to skip a lot of unnecessary tutorial, she's still your first pull later

[storm lantern]

i think ch7 is when you first get trial chars and ch8 is when you get locked to them

[wicked pebble]

whats that? sorry i just started

[storm lantern]

if you go to your valkyries screen everyone has a character name and a name for that specific version, crimson impulse is a mei battlesuit

the tutorial makes you unlock one of her skills

[maiden garden]

I see

[wicked pebble]

i did a free 10 drop

are they good

[storm lantern]

no, if you go to the events tab there should be 20 free pulls for carnival banner

use it on ps/the woman with the parasol

[amber finch]

ngl i was expecting 3 hles to be in the img bc it couldnt load

[wicked pebble]

carnival supply right

[storm lantern]

yeah

[storm lantern]

yep

[storm lantern]

ok nice

[wicked pebble]

are they good

[odd plume]

the S rank is nice for you now

[storm lantern]

now just focus on getting elysia and her weapon

[wicked pebble]

also what is carnival annulon

and what is stigmata

[odd plume]

currency from spending event, you get it when you use enough crystal on the gacha, use it to buy stuffs in spending shop

[storm lantern]

stigmata are equipment that increase damage or support effects, different from other hoyo games in that equipment has a much smaller rng element

[wicked pebble]

i se

[odd plume]

can think about stigmata as armor in normal RPG game

[wicked pebble]

what do i use my blue gems on btw

[storm lantern]

like wont be relevant for over a month small

[wicked pebble]

also which valkyries should i use

[storm lantern]

pink woman, battlesuit supply a

[storm lantern]

ps when you can, ci when the story eventually locks you out of p2 valks

[odd plume]

this and the equipment supply A right below

[storm lantern]

logged into his alt to flex smh

[wicked pebble]

idk what ps and allat means

can you rescribe them or smth

[storm lantern]

i mentioned who she was

[storm lantern]

.

[wicked pebble]

would you mind circling them in the photo

oh can i only use one character ever

[storm lantern]

no, you just don't have supports at this point in the game so no point switching to other chars

[odd plume]

you see the words below character name? it's called battlesuit name, we use that name when talking about gameplay

[wicked pebble]

ah ok

what is stigmata

[odd plume]

we just told you

[wicked pebble]

wait yeah i see now

[storm lantern]

the acronym is just the initials unless a battlesuit came out earlier with the same acronym in which case the later battlesuit gets extra letters

[wicked pebble]

sorry its a lot ot take in im gettinmg a bit lost

[storm lantern]

you might also see battlesuits referred to by their character name if there's only one/only one meta-relevant battlesuit for that character

[wicked pebble]

ok so there are only a few characters but htey have a lot of different battlesuits

do i need the base character and the battlesuit

[odd plume]

there's nothing called base character

[wicked pebble]

i have 2 different kianas

[storm lantern]

there are old battlesuits that get extra abilities from having other battlesuits but that mechanic is not important

[odd plume]

for gameplay, you only have battlesuit

[wicked pebble]

i see

[odd plume]

just forget about the character name in gameplay

[wicked pebble]

can i hide the bar at the bottom btw

[storm lantern]

kiana would be an example where you really need to use the acronym since she has multiple battlesuits relevant to meta

[wicked pebble]

idk i just got her for free

[odd plume]

you will get a lot more battlesuit for free

[storm lantern]

most in this game are farmable

[wicked pebble]

i just had to fight bronya but parasol girl is strong

[storm lantern]

try not to talk about specific story events in this channel btw even if they're very early

[odd plume]

KEXMVQQZLU
US4RN92X15
LOVEELF
ThanksCaptain
6PGPIN58IL
AichanXElysia
HIELYSIA
KR9R89K622
use these codes, get a trial card for early chapter, she could one shot everything basically

[storm lantern]

oh yeah use an invite code before you hit level 26 btw

[odd plume]

can use her up to chapter 4

[storm lantern]

in bonuses on the left of the main menu

[wicked pebble]

what code

[storm lantern]

what server are you in

[wicked pebble]

EU/America

[storm lantern]

theres one client for eu and na and one for sea

[odd plume]

invitation code in bonus tab on the mainpage

[wicked pebble]

i am on the tab but what code do i put

[storm lantern]

well try 108279958LG and if that doesn't work i'll find an eu code for you

[wicked pebble]

it says unavailable

[odd plume]

server diff

so you are playing on EU server

[wicked pebble]

am i?

[storm lantern]

207944306HC

oops sorry mango

[wicked pebble]

worked

[quick birch]

wtf could've pinged me

[sweet flax]

Could've given mine

[storm lantern]

lily was just the last person i saw type from eu

[quick birch]

smh

[sweet flax]

We'll remember this

[odd plume]

[storm lantern]

[lyric anvil]

[storm lantern]

how come u didnt post it when they said the na code didnt work

[wicked pebble]

how do i use the purple balls

[odd plume]

send a picture

[quick birch]

didnt have it at hand would've needed a sec to dig it up

[maiden garden]

Who should I build? here's my current roster

[odd plume]

check the pins for budget HLE team

and rot

[storm lantern]

it's just a shop currency, there's useful stuff in it but you don't get enough to buy much until later

it's asterite

[wicked pebble]

where do i get

[lyric anvil]

[odd plume]

click on it then click GET button

[storm lantern]

main source is a weekly refreshing material stage at i think level 40?

but it's everywhere in small amounts

[wicked pebble]

sorry i mean where do i get the shop to spend purple stuff

also i got bronya zaychik

[storm lantern]

if you click on supply from the main menu you click on shop on the left

there are quite a few but its under basic currency > asterite shop

[wicked pebble]

whats an armada

good?

[odd plume]

guild system basically

[lyric anvil]

Alright for the early parts of the game

[wicked pebble]

is yaer sakura good

flame sakitama

[slim blaze]

763 possible no PS?

Rl

[odd plume]

no, you already got PS, just focus on her

[slim blaze]

sleep time i presume?

[odd plume]

90% of the battlesuit in this game are useless

[wicked pebble]

ok whats my tram

team

[odd plume]

after chapter 4, just use cope HoV up to chapter 8, then you dont need anything for story

[storm lantern]

ci is good enough that you don't have to wait until you get hov tomorrow to do story if you want to do it now

[wicked pebble]

hov?

[storm lantern]

check starter manual 7 day login, you get a battlesuit on the 2nd day

[copper marsh]

hello hsr player here looking to start hi3? what kinda awards will i expect to see when i start someont told me i can get elysia hercher form for free

[odd plume]

yes, you can get her for free, there are many more free/farmable characters too, but they're usually not good

this is an old game, can say 90% of the unit are useless

[fluid grove]

how bad of an idea is it to build pity? im trying to get rcs weap from beginner event

[odd plume]

it's not that important anyway

[drifting zealot]

is that 200k????

[fluid grove]

i got hle and her weap in 20 pulls so i wouldnt really be overspending

[odd plume]

no, you just seeing things

[drifting zealot]

blesse me for i getting dk

[drifting zealot]

no i double check it it's 200k xtals and 55 supply cards

[maiden garden]

just got hi love elf and had a question, the team i use for hohe is reverist calico and shigure kira, is that still good for hi love elf

[odd plume]

check the pins for budget HLE team and rot

[lone crater]

no lv?

if you have lv prob doable

[slim blaze]

no LV gear

still using zhenyi TB

handel M

lmao

[lone crater]

kek idk u can try

[slim blaze]

idk

need 724 pretty high for a old team

no potential man also

[lone crater]

is that hotr

[copper marsh]

like should i get her or bronya.

[slim blaze]

wdym

[lone crater]

whats ur lv team

[slim blaze]

lv hotr edn

[lone crater]

yea thats sleep

no sci and not 4/4 lv

[slim blaze]

zhenyi handel

turg eden

kekeke

[odd plume]

for beginner, they are about the same, just usable early game, but HoH has a mission for 30 crystal in starter event

[copper marsh]

so i should just save my wishes, warps till a meta comes re runs and get elysia.

[storm lantern]

dont pull reruns

[copper marsh]

btw i have an account with hercher of whatever seele becomea hercher or smthing, if i use can i still get elysia? or

[odd plume]

we dont recommend pulling on rerun

[copper marsh]

i see so just new units?

[odd plume]

yes

[copper marsh]

so wait i can get elysia for free on my old account ?

[odd plume]

yes you can, tho do you care about meta at all?

[copper marsh]

ya i do.

is it better to start a newer account or ??

[odd plume]

unless you have a good account, it's usually just better to restart

[copper marsh]

idk my accoutn jsut has seele's hercher form.

senti and like 0 pulls.

its in like 1/4 storline wise.

[odd plume]

too bad, horb is something but not enough

[copper marsh]

so i should restart ?

i can lowkey show u my acc via hoyoverse

[storm lantern]

u wouldn't even have an advantage of needing to put less effort into the account so yeah just restart

rerolling also good this patch bc of carnival and extra discount on hle banner

[odd plume]

would say yes, but be aware that it's not easy and wont feel very great in near future

not like your old account is any better

[copper marsh]

honestly the game is pretty good so idm resestarting

plus a skip buttom exsists

the storyline is rlly nice.

[odd plume]

so make a new account, pull the new ely and her wp then save

use cope team in the meantime

[serene crystal]

You can start from basically any chapter in story mode so you aren't losing progress from restarting either

[copper marsh]

i see alr

[copper marsh]

thats usefull

so i should usually pull newer units. with their weapons

and stigamata alr tyyysm

[odd plume]

stigamata are all farmable

just need the wp

[spare roost]

i want to ask this but i cant send the photo

[copper marsh]

question, what is the best pass to buy

is there stuff like welkin moons here equivalents.

[odd plume]

i think you need captain role

[copper marsh]

is there???

[odd plume]

?

you already have captain role

[copper marsh]

like paid passes.

for hi3 does smthing like welkin moon exsist.

[odd plume]

oh, you are asking about BP

[serene crystal]

#👶beginner-help message for spending

[copper marsh]

ig idk.

lin every hoyo game there is like a paid pass with high end value

[odd plume]

actually you are talking about monthly

[copper marsh]

ya

smthing like that it helps u get pulls for charchters and weapons

[odd plume]

check here if you want to spend money

do you have any idea how to get a CN account?

better play SEA then

it require real photo of your document to be able to make a CN account

not here now but she will comeback in few day

not recommended btw

no, we get official info from CN server, they are 1 month ahead

actually they announced that in GLB too

check the pins for carnival supply guide

she will be in that banner

[storm lantern]

ws is bad qua is bad her support is bad

no at ss her support is pretty good and she beats the other qua char on qua weathers (a lot of qua bosses are fire weathers so sparkle does better)

but her support wont be relevant for u cause u dont have the team infrastructure

[odd plume]

in this game, that system is called rank up
and no, her rank doesnt really matter when she doesnt get much content

[storm lantern]

pulling past s0+1 is an even worse decision than getting sparkle

[odd plume]

new valk = more use
old valk = less use
usually

old valk can still be the best for what they do but less content

[wicked pebble]

what do i pick

[storm lantern]

there are 3 types that just do more damage against one of the other types and then 3 types that do more damage against their own type and also have unique mechanics

[storm lantern]

if you plan on spending money hotr otherwise hohe

[wicked pebble]

spending?

also do i pick character card or rank up stamp

[storm lantern]

if you're undecided just wait to claim

[wicked pebble]

also what is ancient willpower

[storm lantern]

rank up stamps are useless unless you own the valk

[odd plume]

get characte card

[odd plume]

currency for war treasury shop

usually not worth picking when it come in a valk box

yes, everyone can get it, should be unlocked at lv 30 or so i think?

well, about as much as you can get, if you play seriously

just start from 1 team first

[storm lantern]

1 for abyss but different teams are good against different weathers

reruns are more frequent the newer a character is

vita will probably have her next rerun as an ascension supply whenever she's eligible for it

[odd plume]

only the dev really know

[coarse delta]

elysia ofc💀

[odd plume]

i think we can expect vita rerun on 8.7, current patch is 8.5

take it with a grain of salt btw

[lyric anvil]

Would just keep the box there for now

[rose steppe]

guys i havent played in like 4 years and idk what to do or who to pull for 😭
i just wanna play casually but still have decently synergistic teams, not chasing leaderboard stuff

the characters i like most are mobius, rita, vita, yae sakura, and elysia if it matters?? i like raiden and durandal too. rita is number one but i assume there are no relevant rita forms these days

and is there anything i should rush asap apart from just catching up on story?

maybe the other channel would have been more appropriate but i feel like a beginner and have basically know knowledge retained so idk, and idt i ever got super far anyway

[storm lantern]

pull hle and ||rita next patch|| if you like those chars

[rose steppe]

wait there's a ||new rita|| holy shit?? thank you

[storm lantern]

also want to point out all of your characters would be free on a new account

and a new account would probably have more crystals available

[rose steppe]

ohh maybe it would be worth restarting. i have no idea what was happening in the story anyway so maybe it's a good idea. does the story cost stamina to play?

[storm lantern]

yes but you get a ton of stamina items

and some story doesn't cost stamina

[rose steppe]

hmmm that might be the move. thank you!!

[abstract sequoia]

!faq info

[small willow]

Providing Account Information/Context

We need more information to answer that, Captain!

Please show (screenshot where needed):

• Your Battlesuits (Valkyrie > Grid Layout) and Equipment (Equip > Weapon/Stigmata).
• Crystal count, supply tickets, current pity, and expected income.
• To what extent do you care about [meta](#👶beginner-help message)? (Consider that your competitive Abyss performance affects your Crystal income. [More info here!](#👶beginner-help message))

If you are struggling on specific content:

• Show us your team, equipment and gameplay.
• Screenshot the exact problem if you think something is going wrong.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[abstract sequoia]

@woeful gull

[potent breach]

guys is there anyone i should pull from summons right now ?

havent playing in years and this is my valkyries right now

[abstract sequoia]

HLE, but seeing your valk levels it's probably best you restart on a new account, so you can profit from the starter events

!faq returnee

[woeful gull]

i haven't actively played in a super long time
i'm only level 63 rn and i know very little about gameplay 🥹😭

[small willow]

Returnee Accounts

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Returnee Accounts pin!

Please send us an imgur album in #👶beginner-help of your significant S-Rank Valkyries and the first page of your Weapons and Stigmata. We will help you decide whether it is worth keeping.

If your account:

• Is below level 80
• Lacks established teams
• Isn't dear to you/doesn't have limited collectables that you care about.

Then:

[woeful gull]

i do have another account that i started too

[potent breach]

nah i dont wanna restart -.-

what is hle ?

[woeful gull]

wait speaking of i need to log into it hold up

[abstract sequoia]

Hi Love Elf

the new elysia

[potent breach]

i see i see

[abstract sequoia]

!faq lost

[small willow]

Feeling Lost?

I got this, Captain!

The following guides are a good starting point to help you feel like you know what you're supposed to be doing as Captain of the Hyperion!

See the channel pins of #👶beginner-help for more:

• Account Progression Pointers: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• What to pull right now: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• Valkyries you should buy for Asterite: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• Clearing up misconceptions about the meta: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!

[abstract sequoia]

some guides to start with

[potent breach]

also i have this box, the last thing is 600 ancient willpower

which one should i get ?

[abstract sequoia]

check the pins

[storm lantern]

doesn't matter

whichever u vibe with more

[abstract sequoia]

i wouldnt say that

both options have their ups and downs

in my personal opinion (against my own non-meta preferences), it's better to choose HoHe

[potent breach]

what am i looking for ?

[abstract sequoia]

although you can also get her from level rush in starter events

[potent breach]

ooh i found it nvm

[storm lantern]

well pico cant

[abstract sequoia]

yeah

i'm just mentioning it

the advice to restart on a low level account

is not without reasons

that is one of them

[potent breach]

yeah sorry i wanna keep this account

[abstract sequoia]

not going to force anyone to do it of course, i'm just saying that you probably should look into the starter events and be aware of what you're missing

[storm lantern]

i honestly cant think of any reason not to restart but if u just like the login or something ig

no captain exp no xtals no mats

[potent breach]

mostly because of my friends list

[woeful gull]

im still slightly confused 🥹

[sweet flax]

you'd just have to salt the email same email that way

[sweet flax]

with what exactly

[woeful gull]

i dont really know help

[sweet flax]

how can we help if you dont know what you need help with, is it abyss? gearing units? gacha?

[woeful gull]

uhmm.. i just dont know what i'm doing tbh

[abstract sequoia]

lets start with asking one question at a time

[storm lantern]

is it people who dont log in anymore u want to keep?

[potent breach]

kinda yeah

but mosty dont wanna replay the whole game again lol

[storm lantern]

then don't, new account would still be better

[abstract sequoia]

the starter events are your official roadmap i guess

especially growth regimen

they direct you into all parts of the game at least once

[potent breach]

@storm lantern what are the rewards for the new account ?

[woeful gull]

okay, i'll start there. ty, sorry for bothering

[sweet flax]

ok since you are level 63 im gonna make a checklist for you

have you pulled hle + her weapon? (gacha side of things)
is your hle fully geared, as in her weapon is leveled to 50 (preferably pri-armed) and using her full stigmata set

how is your dkey collection going, regarding realms of battle for example, have you gotten all 5 free dkeys there, crafted sakura and are working towards making judah

do you own any other p2 s ranks such as fws/ps from carnival pulls for example

on the abyss side of things, since you havent broken through and are still in q-manifold, are you clearing within 2 minutes for the promotion/retain rewards

elysian realm, are you keeping up with it on a weekly basis? shallow sequence as well for one time crystal sources

[potent breach]

im guessing its like a starter event right ?

[abstract sequoia]

no dont worry, the channels are exactly for this purpose

to help people out no matter at what point they are

[woeful gull]

i have HLE weapon, i just pulled it today. but i have no crystals for HLE herself

[sweet flax]

[storm lantern]

resetting story xtals (doesn't matter for u ig), about 13k xtals from starter manual, lots more captain xp, lots more mats

[sweet flax]

try to pull the weapon with the valk, can always hold onto the crystals needed to pull weapon (so if you have weapon in 60 pulls, keep 16.8k crystals ready and only pull over this for the valk)

[woeful gull]

also i got hle weapon with free pulls

[sweet flax]

btw tickets arent necessarily "free pulls" you arent forced to spend them upon getting them

[potent breach]

what are xtals ?

[storm lantern]

crystals

[sweet flax]

crystals

[woeful gull]

ikkk 🥹

[potent breach]

ooh

im pretty sure i have a lot of mats too i havent used many

also i have a lot of boxes

[woeful gull]

i'm gonna start with this.. i'll come back after i pull hle i think

[hollow stream]

why is the game not releasing A chars

[sweet flax]

we got vbm and vbs as the most recent ones, other than that it just seems like they have different plans going forward with valk releases

[copper marsh]

BRO...

[potent breach]

whats up ?

do i have something good ?

[sweet flax]

mainly the level up coupon and resource boxes with hc metals

anything else like befall weapon box and coins/stamina items are more easily obtained

[potent breach]

i havent used any because i dont know what i will need down the line

[sweet flax]

id make sure to always use this egg when available and try to max the valks in it

it contributes to your dorm level and helps with dorm errands since higher rank valks are worth more in their specialty (lets you complete some otherwise hard to complete S+ errands)

[potent breach]

which one should i go for

[sweet flax]

makes no difference, but stick to one until you max them out

[potent breach]

ooh thats neat

should i try to do expenditions to rank up the characters or is it not worth it ?

[sweet flax]

you could, similar idea, stick to one valk at a time until you max them out just so you dont run out of stamian

personally I prefer only sticking to doing 1 valk permanently, because once you max her out and do an expidition to get shards for her, you will end up with fragments that can be converted to witch orbs

[potent breach]

and what do witch orbs do ?

[sweet flax]

it unlocks a shop where you can use them to get some items like affix materials daily without needing to spend coins/asterite

[potent breach]

ooh thats pretty cool

[sweet flax]

this is for A ranks ofc

if you farm S ranks through war treasury, you get pure witch orbs instead which are used for valkyrie stamps

[marble depot]

Hi , Which one should I pick?

[sweet flax]

purana phantasma

key of ego is no longer used on hohe, you get nebs as a very good alternative to jk gloves if you are running a p1 beginner ice team

[marble depot]

which weapon would work for hohe then?

[molten shoal]

her pt 2 weapon

[sweet flax]

just use the default option, it makes no difference unless you own her new dkey but its not a recommendable pull

[potent breach]

ooh god, this seems like such a grind lol

[sweet flax]

depends tbh, you get 750 of them in a week if you are farming them
and unless you are doing really well in exalted ma, you run out of ancient legacy/willpower really quickly
also it should be worth noting that the valks in here are very outdated and their ranks are meaningless... a case can be argued for older players with hoo and players who have hofi dkey + trio/hohe dkey + thel

the priority for war treasury remains the same, unlock the valks available for dorm level progress and elysian realm crystals (for the valks applicable)

[potent breach]

i thought it would be less than 750 tbh

i didnt think the game would be that kind to us <3

[sweet flax]

again if you are farming them

you need to have a SSS S rank valk and get her shards over the cap to convert

which will take a really, really long time to get

[potent breach]

yeah i bet

[latent cargo]

who are the metas rn? :p

[sweet flax]

abyss dependant

newer units have more relevancy though

[latent cargo]

so, ones with astral ring?

[sweet flax]

yes, but its not recommended to pull the older ones

as long as you pull the newest unit you will catch up to the meta

[latent cargo]

i see, oke

[potent breach]

so now that im not going to restart my account which one should i choose from the event HoH or HoT ?and should i still go for hi love elf or wait for another character

[sweet flax]

hotr* hot is herrscher of thunder

have you already checked the pin regarding that box?

[potent breach]

i see my mad

[sweet flax]

and regarding hle, if you can secure her + weapon, then ye sure pulling her is good
otherwise just skip

[potent breach]

nah, didnt have time to

[sweet flax]

valk without weapon is useless, weapon is limited to its valk

so no point pulling one without the other

[potent breach]

yeah im thinking the same, i dont have that many summons rn

even if i pull her im not sure if i can pull her weapon

[sweet flax]

you can always choose to pull over weapon pity (so if you have 60 pulls left till weapon, only pull over 16.8k crystals which is 60 pulls worth of crystals)

but if you end up getting hle it might be late into the patch and her shill will be less noticable

[potent breach]

yeah im gonna wait a bit

also i think im gonna pick elysia from the event

mainly because i dont think i have any bow valks

[sweet flax]

if you dont own either then ye its the better choice, especially if you lack trio

[sweet flax]

that's the most irrelevant reason I can think of LOL

[potent breach]

lol

[maiden garden]

Hey there's sometimes tank bosses for which only now characters can hit the weak points or smth no?

[thick bolt]

the tank boss doesn't run often, and brute force is a viable solution, especially below nirvana rank

[maiden garden]

Where is this from? When do you unlock it?

[thick bolt]

Pure witch orbs shop, you unlock it by having a base S rank char at SSS

[maiden garden]

I see

[maiden garden]

That sounds hard

[thick bolt]

just takes a bit of time through war treasury

[maiden garden]

Oh war treasury reminds me

I need like 39 ancient legacy for a valk
I don't think any quick way to get it?

So it will be probably a few weeks when I can get 100 from retunee guide or smth

[thick bolt]

memorial arena?

it's the main source of legacy, and it's finalization rewards tomorrow

this is weekly income of legacy

!faq 102

[small willow]

Ancient Willpower/Legacy Income

Hi, Captain!

Average weekly Ancient Willpower income
49 = 210*7/30 Purchases using Asterite
55 Memorial Arena Exalted 10 attempts
65 Memorial Arena Exalted 2% bonus
56 = 28*2 Memorial Arena SSS Bosses
11.11 = 100/9 Vanguard BP
16.66 = 150/9 Knight BP bonus
11.11 = 100/9 Paladin BP bonus
20 Weekly Quiz
283.88 Total

Average weekly Ancient Legacy income
10 Memorial Arena Exalted 10 attempts
24 = 12*2 Memorial Arena SSS bosses
38 = 19*2 Abyss Exalted Red Lotus finalization
0 Vanguard BP
5.55 = 50/9 Knight BP bonus
5.55 = 50/9 Paladin BP bonus
~5.55 = 50/9 Events and other
~88.65 Total

Note that both weekly incomes can fluctuate based on event rewards and patch length

[maiden garden]

Ah i see thanks

[lunar dew]

I DID IT IN AT LIKE 13 PITY LEFT. i can get a 10 pull for the weapon which is at 50 pity.

is this worth?

[lunar dew]

i only got 2 out of 3 on her stigmatas and no weapon but

[lunar dew]

nvm got them from just using the box and crafting the other one

all need is the weapon getting this character was useless

[wicked pebble]

is this real? like did i acc get her or is it fake

[thick bolt]

If thats from the selection box then yes you actually got her

[wicked pebble]

yes it is
shes the one on banner yeah?

[thick bolt]

not the same battlesuit

This is HoHe, the one on the banner is HLE
Hohe is her older version

[lunar dew]

if you claim from event shes there for good. i got HoT for the crystals

[wicked pebble]

why cant i use some of my vcharacters

[zenith vale]

I leveled the damage to boss passive and ice dmg passive as well as HLE's until like lv10 then I found a guide. turns out i was picking all the wrong gear and blessings 🥹

but i did it! thank you for your reply, it gave me confidence enough to jsut retry before the week reset. I just barely got to lv50 today on sunday my timezone

follow up question tho if you dont mind! is the difficulty gap between 18k and 20k big? should I just stick to doing 18k every week from now on?

[wicked pebble]

also is there a tier list

[mossy void]

Chat Is this a decent elysia build?

[maiden garden]

The newest unit on the top

The older they get the lower their pull value gets

[wicked pebble]

idk who is new

[maiden garden]

Rn
Elysia on banner

[wicked pebble]

ok but like

what about about everyone else

[maiden garden]

Most of the part 2 units are good
Just some are better depending on matchup and stage buffs

Badum Kiana, ps, fdd, paws all are good

Well sparkle is kinda okay or so i have heard but don't know much myself

[wicked pebble]

im trying to get one character of every tupe (biologic psychic etc) and i need an sd type and img type

[spiral badge]

if your goal is meta f2p for higher crystal income from abyss, then i don't recommend doing that

keep in mind type counter is only roughly a 30% independent multiplier difference

if you're going out of your way to use very old and outdated units with a type advantage, you're losing more than you gain

kawa's list isn't anything to particularly focus on tbh. It's just a bunch of more recent valks, some that are possible to get if you're lucky with free carnival pulls but generally not worth spending actual crystals/cards on. You generally want to keep your crystals for newest releases of the patch (FDD rerun is a bit debatable later but i don't agree with it personally)

[wicked pebble]

oh ok

i wont pull yet then..?

[spiral badge]

you can consider elysia right now or FDD later. Maybe save until near the end of their banner to assess your current roll count

do the free ten roll on elysia's though

!faq crystals

[small willow]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

!faq rates

[small willow]

The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

• Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k ) vs 78 pulls (22k )
• Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k )
• Worst Case:
• Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k ) vs 150 pulls (42k )

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[wicked pebble]

what is FDD
also how do i get my freee 10 role

[spiral badge]

forgive me for being blunt but you don't seem like you understand what you're doing. Give these stigmata effects a read. Newer stigmata sets are hyperspecific to their user.

Beware HoHE's newer signature set requires her gacha only weapon Flawless Benediction which is rerunning later this patch for 60 rolls at worst. I do NOT recommend pulling it f2p meta wise though. HoHE's uses are quite lackluster or niche now.

[spiral badge]

!faq glossary

[small willow]

Glossary of Terms

There are so many abbreviations, Captain! What do they mean?

Use CTRL + F or 'Find in Page' to quick search abbreviations in the Glossary of Terms: e.g., ' RC ' (the spaces help!)

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Glossary_of_Terms

Still not sure? [Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Visual Guide for using the Glossary (applies to both PC and Mobile).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

the ten roll button on the hi love elf elysia banner should say free. If not then you already did it

anyway there's alot more i would love to cover but i actually need to leave now

sorry to be abrupt. others can help

or i can get back to it later today

[mossy void]

Sorry i just went back to the game I forgot how building works in this game

[spiral badge]

if you're a returnee before 7.3 then the game has changed alot since how you've last seen it regardless

!faq ring

[small willow]

Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain!

Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!

Since 7.3, all new Valkyries will use the Astral Ring system. You must charge Astral Ring Intensity (ARI) to max to enter Stellar Outburst. The team leader determines the active Astral Ring Specialization.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

• World Star - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

give the last link here a read to see how new team building is like now

!faq supplies

[small willow]

Supplies Explained

Hi, Captain!

Please see Professor Lyo's explanation of every single supply [here](#👶beginner-help message) and find the banner you want to know about!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

and especially read the equipment banner changes here

main takeaway is stigs are now craftable but weapon is all you need from that gacha now

and to both of you, check out the pins for all sorts of general info

[topaz bay]

What things reset in the open world? I've already completed 5 adventure tasks.

[mossy void]

I returned on sparkles banner then took a break then went back i didn't know i missed that much

[spiral badge]

do you understand how teambuilding with sparkle works then?

also the advice i'm stressing is more if you're a meta focused player (the default because that's how you get much more crystals in this game)

but if you anticipate yourself taking breaks and not staying for long then you may more do what you wish, or specify to us what your personal goals are and we can adjust

[spiral badge]

should be the adventure tasks. Check and make sure you have no other maps also opened and able to accept tasks too at captain level 40 or 50. I covered open world extensively in my asterite guide too if you want to know more

[mossy void]

I don't have sparkles sadly

[spiral badge]

ok well forget about that bit and address other things i've told you or asked

[raven bane]

is this worth buying i already have hoh

[serene crystal]

HoHe is not a good investment for a new account anyways and deciding to buy level rush has nothing to do with that for the value of level rush see the spending pin. It is probably the best return for money in regards ti crystals in the game

[topaz bay]

I read the guide already. One section says this: “Some maps may require enough initial progression before their Adventure Tasks are unlocked.”
So there are maps where you don't need to see the story to do the Adventure Tasks? Which ones are they? I'm reading the story in the recommended order, and I think that's why I'm progressing slowly in the game.

[spiral badge]

uh i feel you may have misunderstood a bit.

It's not that you don't need to do adventure tasks. It's that the regular adventure tasks are unavailable until you make enough progress.

I think most of them feature some kind of prologue you need to get through first (at least sakura samsara)

but also apho2 doesn't give you regular adventure tasks until you reach moon ring lv 20 (p sure i specified that somewhere)

in the meantime for apho2, you still can do two tasks each cycle even if you don't pick that apho2 map for the week (normally you can only pick one map per week), but these tasks are only to advance your moon ring to 20 until you unlock the regular ones

a player that isn't so concerned with story may opt to go into apho2 asap to start progressing from these different tasks so they reach to lv 20 sooner while they clear other maps normally

but overall if you're story focused, you can just take your time and disregard all this for now. Focus more on enjoying the story in your preferred order (at the slight cost of some time and resource but it's not a big deal really)

[zenith vale]

is everything in the time capsule shop going to go away once its over are there permanent stuff in there? cause i see some stuff thats not tagged with dates on them so im a lil confused

[spiral badge]

the red eden costume might stick around. i don't think so for everything else

[topaz bay]

Ok, and I guess the same thing happens with Elysian Realm. First you have to watch the story, and then the missions are unlocked.
In that case, I think it's better for me to skip the story, since I see that the rewards are very generous and reset every week.

[spiral badge]

if you ever get far enough you'll overflow and they become non bottleneck which is why i said it's fine if you want to be story focused

but yeah you can decide

can always catch up on the story again with some ingame and others maybe from youtube at worst

[spiral badge]

give me another bit. I want to review a past time capsule shop to get a better idea

[zenith vale]

i was about to reply but thank you!

[spiral badge]

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Time_Capsule_(v8.5) maybe you can go by this

CE's outfit might stick around? The discount for it is already gone though.

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Time_Capsule_(v8.1) here's possibly the previous one if you want to cross check with what's already in the LTO shop

hm i can't really identify a consistent trend from this. I thought the "while the event last" text may have been an indicator but it's not

there's no 25% off outfit this time either

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZF8nuETMbg seems the permanent additions were known beforehand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64ZFda98XZk but here's the one for this patch. They didn't make a dedicated video for it this patch

no additional notes either

at the very least you can already see the red eden outfit in the shop https://i.imgur.com/qfIsJf0.png

i guess that's all i can dig up for now. sorry

[zenith vale]

its okay dont apologize, i appreciate the help

i cant send images but the few outfits im eyeing on on the wiki shows that theyre in the costume shop like "Costume Shop - purchasable at the cost of Special Outfit Coupon ×198."

but is that tab shared with the time capsule shop? im not ingame rn so i cant check but thats whats making me confused tbh. like im not really into any of the time limited discounts the current time capsule shop is having rn but iirc it was in the same shop page?

also side question if you dont mindd, is the difficulty gap for 20k and 18k huge for elysian realm?

[spiral badge]

i think you should check ingame later to see if they're in the mall/LTO menu. If they are without a date, then it's prob perm but again the only one i see like this is Eden for this time capsule

198 is the non discount price but it doesn't really mean if it's time capsule only/perm

for ER, the main difficulty jump i know of is from shroud > inferno. Ofc depending on your setup maybe the finer jumps can be the difference. Nowadays though most valks should be capable if the right signets are picked and they are played properly to the build

keep in mind weekly ER crystals only need a deep sequence of any valk

so just pick your best one for that cycle

if you need to get levels for more questionable valks in your roster, then use lite at a managable difficulty > clear the first boss > quit at progress saved text > repeat to level them quickly

[spiral badge]

hello just want to follow up with you. Originally I thought you were going back to read but maybe something happened. If you have any further questions feel free to ask.

[mossy void]

Thanks I appreciate it

[spiral badge]

Let us know if you have any specific goals you want to more focus on, or maybe you're just lost and don't know what to focus on with all the changes. If the team building guide is confusing then we can also walk through an example as well.

But any further might be too meddlesome on my part so I'll leave it at that.

[copper marsh]

how do i get elysia here.

[daring halo]

ive had herscher of truth for a while, and i recently got lucky and pulled herscherr of finality from the dorm supply. is it worth buying the carnival box and getting herrscher of origin for the trio? Ive heard the trio is really strong

[thick bolt]

spam click the speech bubble till it turns white and you'll see a swap icon pop up, switch from there

[copper marsh]

whsts the speech bubble ?

[thick bolt]

trio needs both their gear and ranks to be a good team by todays standard, and HoFi would specifically need her dkey.
It's not a worthwhile investment since I assume you don't have the gear

[thick bolt]

Just to be clear, you want elysia on the bridge?

[copper marsh]

i dont have elysia.. how do i get her. they said there is a free hohe that new players can obtain

[thick bolt]

level up a bit more till you unlock the events tab, one of them has a selection of rewards available amon which is the box that has ely

[copper marsh]

till which level? 30?

[cinder peak]

how likely can I get 4k in 11 days?

[thick bolt]

well thats the standard level to unlock events, could vary but shouldn't take more than a couple days to reach

[sweet flax]

depends on how many one time crystal sources you have left

[copper marsh]

A COUPLE OF DAYS NANI ??? WHAT IF I JUST SPEED RUN

[sweet flax]

you reach level 50 in 3 days calm down

[daring halo]

i see. also i have hohe’s original weapon, the domain of ego. I heard that she has a new signature weapon called flawless benediction? does having her old bow give me any way to get this new bow or is it entirely differnt snd i need to pull on its banner 🫩

[thick bolt]

banner only

[daring halo]

awww 🙁 thanks!

is herrscher of rebirth worth investing in? i heard that shes a good supp/dps

[haughty elbow]

lvl 14? did u use a code yet

[copper marsh]

i ddint

[haughty elbow]

[copper marsh]

where do i use it.

[sweet flax]

nope, if you own her or she's ranked picking up her dkey is beneficial for competitive goals otherwise not really

[haughty elbow]

press bonuses

[copper marsh]

whats a code.....?

[haughty elbow]

u can enter a player code to get ~100 crystals
expires after lvl 26

[copper marsh]

then.

[copper marsh]

what is it.

[haughty elbow]

in my name

107781042QC

[copper marsh]

whre do i enter it

[haughty elbow]

bonuses

[copper marsh]

where there.

[haughty elbow]

what does it say for u

there should be a text box to enter it

[copper marsh]

then

@haughty elbow

[haughty elbow]

oops is that the wrong one

[storm lantern]

it's the right one they're just too low level

didnt even know there was a minimum

[haughty elbow]

did they not finish tutorial

if i remember it took u to lvl 20 after

[copper marsh]

it made me level 15

i just played story

[haughty elbow]

u didnt finish it

it should have unlocked bp missions

[copper marsh]

huh

is it this @haughty elbow

[haughty elbow]

no

just keep going through story for now
check back on lvl 20 make sure u dont get overleveled or else it might disappear

[copper marsh]

ok

[copper marsh]

i finished this starter and im at 19

how do i get to 20 to unlock the other one.

[raven bane]

beginner manual and dailies

[sweet flax]

you dont have your beginner manual?

[copper marsh]

idk where that is

[sweet flax]

on the main screen on the bottom

[raven bane]

menu

[sweet flax]

if its not there this isnt a beginner account

beginner manual has exp missions that get you up to 20

[copper marsh]

where is it.

[sweet flax]

if you dont have it this is not a beginner account

you most likely logged into it at some point without paying attention

[raven bane]

oh if you dont see it on the bottom of your screen at the main menu you prob didnt install every asset

[sweet flax]

installing assets doesnt affect it

this is a common issue with some newer players who already have existing hoyoverse accounts

[copper marsh]

so what do i do...

[sweet flax]

even logging into hi3 (not entering the game) can trigger the beginner manual event flag

[raven bane]

it does it also happened to me when i first happened to me

it only fixed when i downloaded the full pack

[sweet flax]

I think you might misremember something, beginner manual is visible even without full assets, full assets is for higher image/audio quality and CGs mainly

[copper marsh]

SO WHAT DO I DO..

[sweet flax]

a lot of newer players downloaded limited assets and can still see it

[sweet flax]

well you can either restart on a fresher account with a beginner manual, or find a way to get exp and continue but you will be losing a lot of rewards which honestly can hinder your progress (spending stamina provides exp)

[raven bane]

okay you may be correct it did appear but it just redirect you to the asset downloading screen

[copper marsh]

wait... what.

ig-

[sweet flax]

there are some beginner manual assets in the full package, but you can download those independently ingame from the resource management menu to save storage space

[copper marsh]

do i just switch accounts ? and make a new one or what.

[sweet flax]

the point still stands though, if you do not see the beginner manual, your account triggered the beginner manual event flag through a log in (not even entering game) and then got flagged for inactivity which got rid of the manual, since you havent completed the tutorial and are a lower level, you are not eligible for returnee event either

[sweet flax]

either make a new hoyoverse account or change your region

you can salt your email if you want to make a hoyoverse account on the same email

[raven bane]

can you send your main menu

[haughty elbow]

dont change ur region i need someone to use my code

[copper marsh]

here u go ig.

[raven bane]

theres nothing down there correct?

[copper marsh]

@raven bane if i just switch accounts and go for a new email. does that work. or do i have delete and renstall ?

[raven bane]

that would work but maybe theres another way

[sweet flax]

just need to switch your account/region

[copper marsh]

like ?

[sweet flax]

.

[copper marsh]

salt as in delete ?

[sweet flax]

no

[haughty elbow]

salt as in make another acc on the same email

[sweet flax]

lets say you made an account on [e-mail], when registering you put the email as [e-mail]
that way the hoyo account is registered on [e-mail], but the email is sent to [e-mail]

as long as you put the period (.) anywhere before the @ it works

[copper marsh]

...

[sweet flax]

its how we save time when rerolling

instead of making 50 emails

[copper marsh]

is this real. so just enter a dot before the @ and i get a new acc

[sweet flax]

yep

[copper marsh]

ig ok

[haughty elbow]

i forgot where i put my dots tbh

its fine since im slacc and dont alt for 5 invites now

[copper marsh]

do i register

or just login?

[sweet flax]

register

you are making a new hoyoverse account

[copper marsh]

it says invalid.

IT WORKED

I DID IT. LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

I HAVR THE MANUAL

[maiden garden]

i’m kind of confused… i can’t find a quest i need to complete that growth regimen thing it’s called genealogical seat

[haughty elbow]

p2 story chapter 1

[haughty elbow]

check if u can enter a code

[maiden garden]

but what is that😭 like where is that

[maiden garden]

ohh okay.. mine looks different

[haughty elbow]

yeah because mine is from chapter 3

urs is from chapter 1

[maiden garden]

so what now

[haughty elbow]

do story

[maiden garden]

oh wait i figured it out

god i’m dense😭 ty

[mossy void]

If i may ask what's the best elysia Herrscher of human synergy or team?

[haughty elbow]

depends on the boss

[copper marsh]

YESi can

[haughty elbow]

omg

[spiral badge]

synergy is an actual term for weapon upgrades/dupes so avoid using that

HI3 is the kind of game where there's many different situations later and if your roster is large enough you counterpick for each one. There's not really a singular best team.

Alot of HoHE's matchups wants utility from Thelema. Check out the last part from my hohe vs hotr guide in the pins for details on this. Senadina also sees common use due to her team breach that can be applied off field passively. However other specific optimal options can exist such as SS Vita or maybe HLE. For more casual purposes, any single shadow star tag support can do as long as you understand how how teambuilding works.

Beware HoHE needs her new gacha only weapon (flawless benediction) to gain modern astral ring functions, which reruns later this patch (calendar in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins). Otherwise without it her teams are entirely different. Her older team without it are entirely out of date now. I don't recommend picking up this weapon meta f2p wise since it's more niche now.

if you just want to play astral ring hohe, then you can try her out right now even if you don't own her. Go to attack > events tab > tactics class for the hohe tutorial. One of them will cover her pri arm divine key

[copper marsh]

should i save these for the future or not ?

[spiral badge]

you can prob click on the ticket icons at the top or in your inventory. They should not carry over when this rerun event ends

however they do cycle across a few reruns

check the news button in game for the schedule

and check pins for my carnival guide if you want details on which to consider. Tldr consider FWS or PS. Do not spend any actual crystals or blue/pink cards here

[glad ice]

the free 10x ticket is stated to expire and return 50 stardust

the shop 1x card can be saved

[worn basin]

im using domain of ego while i wait for divine key rerun... what stigma set can i use for hohe that works with it?

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robert peary 3pc from beginner event shop

!faq fhm

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

!faq tshop

[small willow]

Training Shop

I'm here to help, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view the Training Shop Purchase recommendation!

Please be aware that Jade Knight's Character Card costs only 1 ticket, the requirement to purchase is cumulative for every ticket you earn regardless of if you spent them already.

[spiral badge]

@worn basin

[worn basin]

tysm

[maiden garden]

What stigs does hof run

I'm just gonna build her coz I like her and another memorial arena dps since I am lacking in part 2 units

[spiral badge]

what is hof? We use an extra letter for that one to better specify

because otherwise it can refer to herrscher of fire, flamescion, finality, or even hawk of the fog lol

[maiden garden]

Flamension

I thought finality was hofi

Hofs i assume is what is more common?

[spiral badge]

flame scion is fs

yeah

the other abbrev is fk for fire kiana

because the counterpart to that was god kiana for hov back in the day

but nobody really uses that anymore

[maiden garden]

I just realised it's flame 'scion' and it makes so much sense lol

[maiden garden]

Yea i remember seeing these two in the glossary thing that pinned iirc

[spiral badge]

https://youtu.be/nqL6TndaQho?t=345

[maiden garden]

Thanks

[spiral badge]

note the timestamp

yw

[copper marsh]

shic h one should i give to my elysia im a starter.

[maiden garden]

Is that hotr in her team?

[spiral badge]

!faq stigbox

[small willow]

Free Stigmata Boxes

Hey, Captain!

In Honkai Impact 3rd Part 2, most new Valkyries will have a Stigma Option box given for free! But when should you use them?

If you are pulling for the corresponding weapon, you should open the box AFTER you have 2 different pieces of that stigmata set already. These stigma boxes are optimally used to finish a stigmata set. This also applies to Part 1 stigmata boxes, if you have any.

If you...

• Obtained the weapon before you got at least 2 stigmata set pieces, stop pulling! Open the box to get the best piece and then craft any missing stigmata (you can find these in Foundry).
• Already got the full stigmata set before the weapon (there are high chances that you did), keep the box as a collectible or open it, select a random stigma and salvage it for Source Prism.
• Are skipping or have skipped the corresponding weapon but want to get the Stigmata set, open the box first for the best piece then craft the other two via Foundry.
• Skipped the weapon and do not intend to craft the Stigmata set, you have no urgent reason to open the box, so keep it.

Regarding Bronya: N-EX, you can open the box once you own T or B and use it to finish TB. M is not BiS on SW.

[spiral badge]

tldr leave it alone

[copper marsh]

what ?

[spiral badge]

tldr = too long didn't read

i'm saying to not open it yet. the faq explains why

[maiden garden]

What is hofs best team rn

Well considering these and ones i can get from shop

[sweet flax]

BiS p1 fire support after all

[spiral badge]

also just because the art is elysia doesn't mean it goes on all elysias. You need to refer to elysias by their battlesuits. Not by the character name

[maiden garden]

I see

Well I wonder where I'll get her stamps

Are they in elysian realm shop?

[spiral badge]

you can search faq battlesuit for more but it's another big faq so i rather not if you already understand

[copper marsh]

ITS HOHE. should i get one of these stigmatas for her.

[spiral badge]

ok then that box doesn't belong to hohe. It's for HLE

no

please read the faq

[copper marsh]

whats is hle.

[spiral badge]

you can click the i in that menu too at the top right of each for descriptions

[copper marsh]

dude it has elysia on it.

[spiral badge]

and i already said that doesn't mean you should give it to hohe

[maiden garden]

The new elysia on banner

[copper marsh]

oh ok

[spiral badge]

the picture is just art. It doesn't mean damage or code to the game

[copper marsh]

OH ARE HER POWERS DIFFRENT ?

[spiral badge]

and if you read them you'll see that it specifies HLE which is elysia's newest battlesuit

[spiral badge]

it's just a different playable unit altogether

[maiden garden]

Yea different units with different everything basically

Only thing they share is being elysia and an archer afaik

[copper marsh]

YA I GET IT. ty

[spiral badge]

!faq battlesuit

[small willow]

Characters vs Battlesuits

Ai-chan is confused, Captain...

Please be specific about which battlesuit you are referring to by using their battlesuit name - better yet, its abbreviated form! See the glossary here.

In Honkai Impact 3rd, several of the playable Valkyries have alternate forms, these are called "battlesuits".

• For example, Herrscher of Reason is a battlesuit of Bronya's, and so are Wolf's Dawn, Yamabuki Armor, and Silverwing: N-EX!

Many battlesuits that share the same Character (e.g. Fenghuang of Vicissitude and Herrscher of Sentience; Fu Hua) have very different roles and thus different applications in your teams as they have COMPLETELY different skills and gameplay.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

i rather you focus on what's economical and use vbm and pardofelis. Resources can run sparse early on

maybe chrono navi (aichan) is another consideration and the free hotr box technically exist, but the cost for going out of your way for those are arguably not worth overall

[wicked pebble]

is there an easy mode i can turn on

[haughty elbow]

for boss fights u can turn on no death

[wicked pebble]

for 7-4 i keep gettinmg hit

[copper marsh]

what does hle stand for.

[spiral badge]

the battlesuit faq earlier told you to use the glossary in the pins

!faq glossary

[small willow]

Glossary of Terms

There are so many abbreviations, Captain! What do they mean?

Use CTRL + F or 'Find in Page' to quick search abbreviations in the Glossary of Terms: e.g., ' RC ' (the spaces help!)

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Glossary_of_Terms

Still not sure? [Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Visual Guide for using the Glossary (applies to both PC and Mobile).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

please learn to search abbreviations from this

HLE is hi love elf which i already said was elysia's latest battlesuit

[spiral badge]

.

[maiden garden]

Oh i got hotr from dorm and hohe from box

Ik how tight resources are so I'll not be putting much in that team at once just keeping it in the back of my mind

So aichan and hotr it is
Thx

[spiral badge]

if you haven't yet

i would hesitate on hotr since we're starting to get new patch news now

and you can read my pin for details between hohe vs hotr

oh you already have hohe

[maiden garden]

Yea got both same day lol

[spiral badge]

yeah hotr is fine i guess. There's another guide i linked there on how to play her without her sig weapon

so give that a look too

[maiden garden]

I see

Thx for this

[spiral badge]

if you're already using hotr then i'm not so sure about ai chan. Maybe try out VBm or RC a bit first

the reason why i veered towards ai chan to begin with is because VBm and RC does alot of total damage buff and debuffs

but ai chan buffs fire damage which is a separate multiplier

i think hotr covers that too https://i.imgur.com/oijLtuF.png https://i.imgur.com/d0os9vN.png . Ai chan might be very underwhelming at lower ranks too

---

@copper marsh if you're having any trouble reading or using any of the faq resources that was brought up, feel free to ask more specifically
(above and below are not related for you)

[maiden garden]

I see

Well I have some time before I get all of my builds upto to a respectable level where I can test em out

I think vbm is good for my hle paws team and I'm buying her fragments so I could use her in the future

[spiral badge]

extremum form - non transform
continuation - transform

[odd plume]

just dodge better or try to pass the stage, dont need to worry about no hit mission

[maiden garden]

It all comes down to git gud 😭

[spiral badge]

then in that case use RC for the HFS team since she's cheaper and more useful. Maybe you can use RC on HLE's team too if RC is S rank

if you still really want to try out CN then sure but try to keep it cheap

if this is for MA purposes there's prob other more effective teams to use rather than HFS, but it sounds like a partial for fun project overall

[maiden garden]

Ye love her design

Imo one of the best hi3 designs that I have looked at

[spiral badge]

building these to a high end level is not recommended overall. The cost are high and even at the highest potential it's subpar to modern teams

but if you make it a long term project and work on it without compromising primary focuses then it's fine

[spiral badge]

and rather than CN, you would be interested in getting sparkle

[maiden garden]

Ohhh

I'll see if Ill have enough pulls if she ever gets another rerun

Since I'm too broke for carnival

But I'll prioritise completing my goi team rn

[spiral badge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lHuaxS-wYE

that's prob the most recent meta focused video i can dig up for HoFS at this point and this is already when hofs has left the meta (lantern was the replacement)

note this video is a year old too

but anyway since you're focused on hofs, maybe that can give you a better idea of what you're eventually aiming for

[maiden garden]

Haha this looks so fun even tho the dmg is smth

[maiden garden]

Yea thanks for this

[mossy void]

Sorry but I can't seem to find the pin guide that ya posted

[spiral badge]

it's in the first pin

do you have trouble opening up pins in general?

[serene crystal]

#👶beginner-help message

[spiral badge]

well i wanted to help them navigate to it first since it'll help for other stuff down the line

but yeah that's the guide

it goes a bit too deep into technical details so let us know if there's anything further i need to explain there

[mossy void]

So i just need the flawless benediction bow?

[spiral badge]

that's the weapon necessary for basic astral ring functions on that valk and will rerun later in the patch. It is not meta recommended to get now just so you know

your earlier request was for the best team though

so you're going to need alot more than just that weapon. You need matching teammates and their own weapons

none of that is recommended either

The upcoming valk next patch as per #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins will also ||be able to support main dps hohe btw. We don't know how good she'll be but if you want to get hohe and then start focusing on meta after that, then it might be good enough for general intents and purposes.||

[serene crystal]

In practice to be competitive in her dps weathers you generally also want ranks at this point even in RL outside of needing MPS + weapon

[spiral badge]

yeah hohe is quite old now

and they've given her rank ups over time affordably

so older players will be higher ranked than you if you want to be competitive with her

by the time you catch up with her, her use cases might become rare or maybe she'll be on her way out of the meta too

[copper marsh]

is monthly better or bp?

[spiral badge]

monthly. We have a pin about paying with real money too btw

[copper marsh]

wdym paying with real money im confused.

[spiral badge]

https://i.imgur.com/YPXbi05.png

[mossy void]

I don't really pull for meta i just pull for who I like also is Lone Planetfarer and Mad Pleasure: Shadowbringer good for elysia?

[copper marsh]

oh wow ok ty

[spiral badge]

you're asking about monthly vs bp, which are things you need to pay real money for

[spiral badge]

ok we can stop with the meta recommendations then. Just want to make sure you know

They work but do you understand why?

i linked you the astral ring faq earlier right? did you read the last link?

[copper marsh]

so as a new player i should get hle and her wep ? but like can i even farm 50k cyrstals for free.

[spiral badge]

!faq crystals

[small willow]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[copper marsh]

since u know her wep needs 25k and and she needs 25k.

[spiral badge]

you can but it will take alot of focused time and effort. We're kind of halfway through HLE's banner time already

[spiral badge]

what

maybe look back at the gacha banner pages again and redo your math

[serene crystal]

How are you getting 280*60 to be 25k

[copper marsh]

it says u need 90 pulls for gaurntee

[mossy void]

I don't think I saw it

[spiral badge]

yes

[spiral badge]

!faq ring

[small willow]

Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain!

Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!

Since 7.3, all new Valkyries will use the Astral Ring system. You must charge Astral Ring Intensity (ARI) to max to enter Stellar Outburst. The team leader determines the active Astral Ring Specialization.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

• World Star - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[serene crystal]

90 for character 60 for weapon

[spiral badge]

but it's not 90 for weapon too

[ancient needle]

Valk yes, but weap?

[copper marsh]

how much is it or wep?

[ancient needle]

60

[spiral badge]

shessair just told you above too

now how much crystals is it per roll?

it's important you learn these numbers or else your sense of cost in this game becomes very distorted

[copper marsh]

so its 150 times 2800

[spiral badge]

no

you're 10x too much

[ancient needle]

280, not 2800

[spiral badge]

2800 is for a 10 pull

[copper marsh]

280 sorry

[sweet flax]

150 x 2800

[spiral badge]

you're on your way. it's ok

[ancient needle]

Also, keep in mind that the first 10x on HLE's banner is free

[copper marsh]

so i need 42k for a unit and its weapon and unit without its weapon is trash

[spiral badge]

and for all new releases otherwise, the first ten pull is half discounted

[spiral badge]

p much

[copper marsh]

imma try and farm that spreadsheet. and the story quest.

[spiral badge]

if it's a rerun that you got for free i wouldn't bother with weapon

you won't be able to use that valk as well but the use cases for older valks are less anyway

[copper marsh]

does the story quest give the most. ggems

[spiral badge]

story is permanent though

i linked you the crystal faq earlier

please please please stop skipping over what i sent you and go through them

[copper marsh]

oiki oki oki

[spiral badge]

there's alot of different sources to crystals. It's best you know them all and get most if not all of them

[copper marsh]

do S units support s units btw ?

[spiral badge]

and we can spend all day covering every tiny amount to get but that's alot of work when the faq answers it

[mossy void]

Sooooo the characters I mentioned are good for elysia?

[copper marsh]

for example if i wanna build a hle team do i need to get other units and their weps?

[spiral badge]

ok let's do some review here

[copper marsh]

like S RANKED ONES

[spiral badge]

which elysia are we talking about?

[copper marsh]

hle for example

[spiral badge]

because again not all elysias are the same

uh sorry pots i'm talking to orios right now

[glad ice]

part2 roles are depend on position. if u put them at 1st slot they are dps, 2nd and 3rd slots are supports

[mossy void]

The Herrscher Of human: Ego

[copper marsh]

like is there something, that shows me which teams i should pull for since hi3 units arent unvirsal

[spiral badge]

they're not universal but now they're more flexible

so as anhai said, new valks can be a dps or different kind of supports for multiple different teams now

[spiral badge]

!faq ring

[small willow]

Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain!

Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!

Since 7.3, all new Valkyries will use the Astral Ring system. You must charge Astral Ring Intensity (ARI) to max to enter Stellar Outburst. The team leader determines the active Astral Ring Specialization.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

• World Star - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

so just as i told orios earlier, i want you to go through the last link here

[spiral badge]

ok so assuming hohe gets her astral ring weapon, what ring type does she have?

i don't think you can look this one up so if you don't know it i'll tell you ||wheel of destiny||

but as the guide said, every ring type needs to match with a specific kind of tag on the other valks of the team

so if we're looking at ||wheel|| then what is the tag that matches that?

(you can look up mad pleasure shadowbringer in the game and click her big blue icon for this answer)

[copper marsh]

can i lwokey use alt accpounts to redeem codes.

so i can crystals

[spiral badge]

invite/referral codes? Yes

but it's alot of work

[copper marsh]

how is it alot of work.

[spiral badge]

the fresh account gets the crystals right away but the referring account that gave the code cannot get it immediately

[copper marsh]

why ?

[spiral badge]

the fresh account needs to do roughly a week worth of activity before the main account gets crystals

[copper marsh]

do i still end up getting it eventually.

[copper marsh]

activity y as in logging everyday ?

[spiral badge]

no

[haughty elbow]

activity as in playing every day
not just logging in

[spiral badge]

i mean actual playing

it wants you to get 10k bp points

and other goals but that's the main one

[copper marsh]

ok ya nvm

[spiral badge]

you can also post your referral code into #invite-links-here or in world chat ingame

not here though. We don't allow that since then the help channel will be swamped with codes and not actual helping lol

[glad ice]

the inviter get 300xtal after the newbie/returnee gain 10k/15k BP exp

[spiral badge]

oh wtf is it 15k

i only remember 7k and 10k lol

[glad ice]

10k will be done in 1 week i dont think its that juicy

[spiral badge]

it does only take one week though unless they changed it
the 7k must be done in the same week but the 10k is total across any time iirc. It's just you can get that 10k in a week.

[copper marsh]

jade sucks now rifht i should just get the crystals right ?

[spiral badge]

!faq tshop

[small willow]

Training Shop

I'm here to help, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view the Training Shop Purchase recommendation!

Please be aware that Jade Knight's Character Card costs only 1 ticket, the requirement to purchase is cumulative for every ticket you earn regardless of if you spent them already.

[serene crystal]

She is 620 crystals in Elysian realm at least

[spiral badge]

it literally only cost 1 ticket too

[mossy void]

The mech type?

[spiral badge]

MPS is mech type but that's not the focus of this discussion

https://i.imgur.com/NkN5D4k.png

second row here

with the big very bright blue icon

[copper marsh]

when does she become available ?

[spiral badge]

https://i.imgur.com/S01yM3d.png

[copper marsh]

ohhhh

how do does one get jades lowkey.

manual starter

missions i see

[spiral badge]

this entire time i thought you were saying jades as in jade knight (sushang valk that you see first in that menu)

but i'm starting to get confused

is the ticket currency for that shop also called jades?

or are you thinking of stellar jades from HSR which are equivalent to crystals in this game?