👶beginner-help

[limpid sand]

she wont leave me alone in my pulls

[odd plume]

again, check the pin for budget build + rot

[mental python]

Oh right she's part of the HLE gacha But her weapon comes from story
The good thing about VB coralie is that she will activate any passive in any team so she's better than leaving the slot empty

[odd plume]

make up your mind in the meantime

you just started, still have time to try and think

[limpid sand]

i just wanted to ask everything i was wondering abt here when it comes to pulling so i dont brick my acc since i do care about meta

thank u guys for the advice and help🙏

[unique crystal]

how do i use elysia HOHE?

[odd plume]

need more info

like what do you have, for what content

[unique crystal]

i just got her and idk what she do

[odd plume]

your lv?

[unique crystal]

33

[odd plume]

she is p1 ice dps that can become p2 dps/support with new weapon

[unique crystal]

whats p1 and p2?

[odd plume]

part 1 and part 2
different system

p1 is old, we wont get more of that

[unique crystal]

oh okk

how do i unlock part 2?

[odd plume]

p2 is the astral ring system

[shadow gyro]

refers the the valks released in part 1 and part 2 story

[mental python]

Pretty much HoHe is a P1 valk so normally she would be useless nowadays

However there are exceptions: Some valk received a new weapon you grab from gacha that allow them to transition into part 2

[odd plume]

just get p2 valk, which is any new valk
for p1 valk, some can has p2 system with new weapon

[shadow gyro]

part 2 characters can be obtainable as soon as you get access to the menus of the game
but the part 2 story needs you to be level 30

[unique crystal]

is getting characters guaranteed? like no 50/50?

[sweet flax]

You get what you pull

[odd plume]

see that small purple icon? anyone has that can use p2 system

[unique crystal]

ohh

[mental python]

there is no easy way around this currency right? Just play weekly?

[storm lantern]

yeah rob is the only source

[odd plume]

@unique crystal ^ some HoH teams for beginner

she is the dps in those team

but if you are pulling for HLE, dont need to worry about HoH too much

[tawny salmon]

guys are the Elysia divine key gonna get rerun??? and should I gacha 90 times to guarantee?

[odd plume]

you just pull till you get it no? what with should I gacha 90 times to guarantee?

and no info on that rerun

also hard pity for weapon isnt 90

[tawny salmon]

i mean like getting the divine key is need to gacha or something just curious

[tawny salmon]

ohh how much then I forgot

[odd plume]

60

[remote ridge]

Hi guys what should I pick here

[odd plume]

#👶beginner-help message
can read this to understand some basic info

then ask again if you are still confusing

[prisma oyster]

how do u unlock apho2 again

eh i mean shichksal

[raven bane]

how can i change mei

[odd plume]

lv50 and clear samsara story first

[odd plume]

click on the text bubble

[raven bane]

isnt that just interact button

[odd plume]

just click on it, you will see swap button

[serene crystal]

When it is grey a menu pops up

[odd plume]

they put it there for some reason

[remote ridge]

Thanks a lot , it was very detailed I think I'll wait

[keen pilot]

is it worth doing 1 more 10 pull on hle even thought i have her if it means that i can get all of the elf boxes

[floral lake]

ss HOHE or ss HOTR

[keen pilot]

not 10 maybe like 3 more

[odd plume]

both have no use currently, maybe wait till you see which boss is coming and pick the one you need more

[floral lake]

i have hohes new dkey and set

[odd plume]

still the same

[odd plume]

how is your elf?

[keen pilot]

i have no elfs

[odd plume]

not a good idea, but not really bad tbh
if it's only 3 pull

2* elf wont do anything btw

[summer marsh]

Rank up or Truth??

[keen pilot]

i mean i cant get thelema anyways?

[limpid sand]

yall in the starry wishes shop theres z sincerest affection divine key should i buy it

[shadow gyro]

yeah its the first best pick
but do show what divine keys do you own first

[limpid sand]

i dont think i own any im a begginer

[mental python]

You can check in your dormitory on the far back

[shadow gyro]

that's fine, best pick is the cannon from the box since the others are farmable
but at the same time you don't need to use the box so you can keep it after buying

[limpid sand]

havent unlocked in yet

says i need rank 50

[limpid sand]

okayy thank u

[mental python]

Oh okay.. then buy the box eventually but don't open it yet... And when you can open ask again just for safety but this is the weapon you cannot farm in any other way

[limpid sand]

also in realms of battle i can claim one of 5 divine keys i think

they r all red

[shadow gyro]

yes
you can get once a week

[mental python]

you can claim all of them eventually

[limpid sand]

so it doesnt really matter what i choose

[mental python]

Actually there is an order- ^ check here
But it won't matter probably since you are not level 50 anyways

Divine keys of this type are not really to be used in combat... they buff your account permanently so they are nice to have.

they are nothing like Hohe's divine key that unlock a whole new system

[limpid sand]

is voyage anecdotes just lore btw

[thorny belfry]

which should i pick? im considering elysia stumps because im a big fan of hers 😭

[mental python]

It's old events that you can replay play whatever sounds interesting to you for some nice rewards
i say "old" but the oldest event Born from a dream is about 1 year old"

[vivid path]

which one to focus here?

[keen pilot]

u can go any but i usually go for the bottom and left ones

[odd plume]

#👶beginner-help message read this first

[odd plume]

wealth = feast > combat imo

you will be able to unlock all btw

[mental python]

Kinda struggling right now because i own 0 physical p2 valks and there is a box in the shop to get HoR ... but it is kinda pricy <.<

I don't think i can even build a proper team for HoR in a physical context either, right?

[odd plume]

you can build a proper team for her if you pull her new weapon

not that i recommend you to buy the box btw

[mental python]

for context: i do lose rank every time abyss throws at us that one stage with the enemy with breakable hands ... but I really don't plan on pulling Li Sushang ever

[shell basin]

Does blastmetal really count as a proper teammate?

[odd plume]

ely sparkle

[shell basin]

oh sparkle

right yeah

[odd plume]

not that great, but still a proper team

[vivid path]

thank youu @keen pilot @odd plume

[mental python]

the positive thing is that i'm 30 pulls away from getting free thelema so pulling HoR weapon wouldn't be too bad for me
But yeah box is pricy, ty for the insight though... i do like Sparkle and have 0 use for her at the moment

[odd plume]

we dont really get much phys content lately

[shadow gyro]

just for clarification, hor is used for hor (reason) when what you mean is horb (rebirth)

that box is still too expensive to recommend though

[mental python]

Thanks for clarifying still getting used to it

[shadow gyro]

i felt that way for fire, but it isn't a big deal until you do get a physical boss like sk or aponia

[sullen gyro]

how much does standard bp cost in dollars

[slim blaze]

oh

the invite event reset already?

[odd plume]

yes, they didn't do the countdown

[thorny belfry]

i honestly dont understand half of the words...

[keen pilot]

me??

[odd plume]

can check glossary link in the pin to know the name, we use abbreviations a lot here
but tldr, wait till near the end of it and see what we will get for next patch then decide

[wet root]

is it worth to pull fdd without her weapon later for hle? I'm thinking of getting at least free outfit, probably up to complete mad pleasure from spending (27k spent including dorm and carnival, 15k crystal left)

[serene crystal]

I would just save here so that you can afford next patch main valk + weapon as you are unlikely to be able to guarantee that, if going for MPS which realistically is doing nothing for your account. Doing a single 10 pull to get outfit should be fine

[hardy vigil]

What should I choose?

[serene crystal]

If you don't have both Flawless benediction + MPS with her weapon then HoHe is just ER crystals. If you don't have either full Trio with Waxing Moon or fully invested FoV team then HoTr is just ER crystals there can be some cope setups which uses HoHe as a prepull option for very early game.

There is an very remote option that we get an usecase for either without those things from CN news before next patch so if you don't have an use now just wait.

[still ether]

Hello! I just got HoHE, is key of Ego good for her?

[odd plume]

how new are you?

that weapon is bad now, if you are still very new, it does help a bit but you wont go anywhere with it

[tawny robin]

soo i got hotr from event and now i dont know if i should take her sig weap from bp and glue some stigma for her for trio or just cope and wait for potential astral ring weap

[rose holly]

What's the guide for box? I have hohe with dkey and no hotr

[serene crystal]

Do you also have MPS with gear?

[still ether]

like new new

[still ether]

oh i see, i dont have like any weapon options for her right now so might as well, thank you!

[hardy vigil]

So you tell HoHe is the best choose for new player right?

[odd plume]

eh no

would rather keep the box, if you are pulling for the new character, you will more likely be using RC to support her, and RC weapon is in that box too

[remote ridge]

hi again I was wondering on which one I should focus rn? I don't have Elysia so idk if I should try to get the weapon

[odd plume]

astralop is mostly for whale and highly competitive player

[remote ridge]

So it's a very great battlesuit if ?

[odd plume]

and idk why would you think about the weapon if no valk

[odd plume]

no?

[remote ridge]

Because I could maybe pick Elysia from the box instead of bronya hotruth

[serene crystal]

That is a different Elysia

[remote ridge]

But I can still equip the weapon right ?

[odd plume]

you only pull weapon if you have the correct valk, dont think about pulling just to cope with other valk, it's bad

[sharp aurora]

What divine key should i get for the gene buffs?

[serene crystal]

Doesn't perform well on anything else then Hi Love Elf so no that isn't going to work

[remote ridge]

I see 😭

[tawny robin]

what are good substitute stigma for HoTr?

[odd plume]

astralop isnt a battlesuit, they are the last thing that player may consider to get for their team, but it's kinda over f2p player's budget after they build the team, so only whale can reliably afford astralop

[hardy vigil]

Hey which valkyria are worth using and which ones are not and who should I choose from this box with HoHe and HoTr

[serene crystal]

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Pure_Love's_Whisper:_Heart's_Wish look at the buffs here it is basically a pure stat stick on everyone not called HLE

You can use Hi Love Elf, Valkyrie Blastmetal Reverist calico as cope see rotation in pins

[odd plume]

HLE, the girl you are choosing, will be your main focus, check the pin for her budget team+rot

there are several sample teams for beginner if you need more

all free/farmable

and easy to get, you dont have to build everything, just enough for content

[hardy vigil]

Ok tysm for answer

[limpid sand]

guys which banners keep their pity and which ones dont

[odd plume]

battlesuit supply and equipment supply keep the pity
carnival banners only share pity among themselves and only in this patch

[limpid sand]

among themselvs as in each one for themselv right

and that resets on a new patch

?

[odd plume]

yes

[limpid sand]

okayy thank u

[hollow stream]

guys how do i get coins fast

[stone void]

there is a rewards where i can get either bronya or hohe but i already have her, is it worth picking the fragments or bronya is better ?

[odd plume]

can buy some from starter shop, salvage 2/3* weapon, sell unimportant mat, do daily material
just temporary, you mostly just dont waste it

[hollow stream]

starter shop as in begginer?

[odd plume]

better wait for next patch info, next patch may have something that could affect your choice

if nothing special, nothing wrong with unlocking hotr

[odd plume]

yees

[tawny robin]

im still thinking if i should get her weap from bp shop

[odd plume]

who?

[tawny robin]

hotr

[stone void]

ty

[hollow stream]

also another question waht do i do with immutable crystallum

[odd plume]

what else do you have? need a lot to make use of her

even with full everything, she is rarely used

[tawny robin]

i have both hofi(astral ring) and hoo

[odd plume]

i asume full gear?

[tawny robin]

hofi yea but hoo only sig weap

[odd plume]

well, do the math a bit to see how long to get full gear for them

can just save till you have enough for everything, i think you might change your plan midway

[tawny robin]

well im running benares set on hoo right now and 18 crystalum

and right now i put robert peary set on hotr

[odd plume]

getting one or 2 pieces of gear wont really do anything, you want full gear for them to do something, and they are rarely used

but if you dont really care about ranking, can do what you want

[odd plume]

the ball from BP? i dont remember item name
mostly just save for something good like divine key

[hollow stream]

ok

[ancient lava]

should I get SS3 HoHE or SS1 hotr? even with reserve works, I would neet 6 frags for SSS Hohe (i already bought one stamps xd)

[lone crater]

hohe

[trail shore]

Whats the next best stig set i can use on HoT
Im planning to get her weapon from the reserve wroks eventually

[odd plume]

what is her team?

[trail shore]

I dunno i just unlocked her

But i have HoF and HoO

Soo... i guess that

[wind trout]

What is the Pri Arm of a weapon

[odd plume]

that set does basically nothing in that team, even the most basic support gear is an upgrade

[trail shore]

I see

[serene crystal]

After certain weapons have been fully upgraded they can be traded for better higher rarity version in the foundry which is their pri arm

[odd plume]

idk what you have or how far you plan to invest into them
but entry lv support gear is gluttony T FHM MB

[serene crystal]

Basically every new s rank valk signature weapon has a pri arm

[vagrant token]

which shop should i try getting SSS Ego

one is slow the other cost BP balls

[abstract sequoia]

@maiden garden

alright, so firstly, have this

!faq lost

[small willow]

Feeling Lost?

I got this, Captain!

The following guides are a good starting point to help you feel like you know what you're supposed to be doing as Captain of the Hyperion!

See the channel pins of #👶beginner-help for more:

• Account Progression Pointers: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• What to pull right now: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• Valkyries you should buy for Asterite: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• Clearing up misconceptions about the meta: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!

[abstract sequoia]

a good place to start

also for the thing you mentioned, was it a book in the bottom middle of the main menu?

referring to this btw

[maiden garden]

idk :,0

[abstract sequoia]

you can just tell me the german terms too btw, it's my native language

I'm just typing English here so other people understand

[maiden garden]

i just set my game to english to understand you better

[abstract sequoia]

yeah i did that too, all of the resources here are with the english terms in mind

[maiden garden]

and idk where that is

[abstract sequoia]

including acronyms

[abstract sequoia]

that is the book I've mentioned

also a series of starter events

[maiden garden]

ive been playing for a long time. just had a lot of breaks

[abstract sequoia]

ah, it expired

[serene crystal]

Yes it expires after 60 days

[abstract sequoia]

wasn't it 90?

[serene crystal]

past first login

Yes my memory is off

[abstract sequoia]

and you don't remember how far you got into it?

[hushed prism]

Goddamn i should do the Elysium Everlasting story arc

[inner cosmos]

coming back to the game after a 4 year break. any advice on who i should pick from the hoh/hotr box :3? thanks !

[abstract sequoia]

we can check your equipment to find out too

[maiden garden]

what :,0

[abstract sequoia]

those mission sets at the very beginning of the game

with a reward for each mission and completing the set

[maiden garden]

idk ...

[abstract sequoia]

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Growth_Regimen

im referring to this

its okay if you don't remember

just trying to see where your account is at right now

[maiden garden]

i remember that

[slim blaze]

anyone got a non HLE rot?

[hollow hornet]

is there any F2P team for Hi love elf😓

[abstract sequoia]

honestly, every valkyrie that you have is completely farmable nowadays. anything you hold dear on this account?

the only few exceptions are old p1 gear that isn't really used anymore nowadays

[modern fog]

I'm REALLY confused about divine keys and realms of battle even though I read the info about it here. Ok then.. how do I get the thingies from realms of battle?????

[inner cosmos]

nothing in particular, ive got a lot of old stigs and sigs but i doubt any of them are super relevant anymore

[abstract sequoia]

!faq whatdkey

[small willow]

Which DKey should I claim first?

Hello, Captain!

Also check out the Divine Key explanation pin [here](#👶beginner-help message) if anything mentioned (such as "gene limit") is confusing/unknown to you.

In the long run it doesn't matter, but the ideal order is:
1 - Grips of Tai Xuan (gloves, cope glove weapon and ice gene limit).
2 - Cleaver/Judgement of Shamash (guns/greatsword, need both to sync for +10 attack and fire gene limit).
3 - Jizo Mitama (katana, phys gene limit attached to it).
4 - Star of Eden (cannon, has no attached gene limit it just exists).

[abstract sequoia]

here's a bit of an explanation for it

[modern fog]

But how do I get them?

[abstract sequoia]

you'd be right, at this point of you want to start playing more meta oriented it's better to restart

!faq returnee

[small willow]

Returnee Accounts

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Returnee Accounts pin!

Please send us an imgur album in #👶beginner-help of your significant S-Rank Valkyries and the first page of your Weapons and Stigmata. We will help you decide whether it is worth keeping.

If your account:

• Is below level 80
• Lacks established teams
• Isn't dear to you/doesn't have limited collectables that you care about.

Then:

[quick birch]

is it possible that you already claimed all the dkeys available in RoB ?

[inner cosmos]

that was pretty much what i was expecting, thank you :3

[modern fog]

I still have a lot missing

[hushed prism]

They're non RoB divine keys

[abstract sequoia]

check the account progression guide in the pins so you know what unlocks when. things changed a lot including the beginner experience over the years

leveling is basically a tutorial experience nowadays and you can get to lvl 88 very fast

[inner cosmos]

okay!

[spiral badge]

Both are permanent so it's a matter of what else you need from either shops. hohe doesn't have a use right now so wait for now for her too until a need shows up ideally.

[modern fog]

Ohh

[serene crystal]

@hollow hornet HLE, VBm, RC is a very cope setup which you can use, there is an rotation in the pins

[modern fog]

I heard something about getting these from the divine key thing so I'm confused

[abstract sequoia]

alright sorry i got a bit off track helping others but didn't forget you, at which point do you think you were?

[hollow hornet]

what's that 😭 I'm not familiar with their name yet, I'm sorry

[abstract sequoia]

you should notice by having or not having the phase rewards

[serene crystal]

Hi Love Elf, Valkyrie Blastmetal, Reverist Calico there is a link to a FAQ with the acronyms

[abstract sequoia]

!faq glossary

[small willow]

Glossary of Terms

There are so many abbreviations, Captain! What do they mean?

Use CTRL + F or 'Find in Page' to quick search abbreviations in the Glossary of Terms: e.g., ' RC ' (the spaces help!)

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Glossary_of_Terms

Still not sure? [Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Visual Guide for using the Glossary (applies to both PC and Mobile).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[serene crystal]

VBm is obtainable from early part 2 story and RC from starter manual/Asterite shop

[hollow hornet]

THANK YOUU

[maiden garden]

im sorry i was watching cutscene

how do they look?

[bleak stump]

Is there a thingy for who yall recommend to get from the box?

[maiden garden]

actually?

[serene crystal]

Can you show your weapons under equip and valks

[hollow hornet]

btw, what's the rotation???

[odd plume]

in the pin

[hollow hornet]

wdym? I'm very sorry 😭

[serene crystal]

#👶beginner-help message

[odd plume]

pinned message
📌 icon on top right

[abstract sequoia]

it's not meant for you, backread a bit

i was helping some others here while you were busy

[hollow hornet]

THANKS

[abstract sequoia]

i mean if you want the full rewards from the starter manual, restarting is also always an option

but considering you have HoH, you probably paid for her

[maiden garden]

ik but im also a returnee

[abstract sequoia]

so i wouldn't give that advice half-heartly

yeah but you didn't stop playing for 4 years

[hollow hornet]

damn the rotation is... a lot😭

[maiden garden]

right...

[abstract sequoia]

every case is a bit different

[abstract sequoia]

at least now I know you've got the weapon box from the starter manual

[maiden garden]

like idk. 5€ or smth

[abstract sequoia]

and redeemed HoH wep

[abstract sequoia]

yeah seems about right

[odd plume]

very basic actually, you just arent used to it

[abstract sequoia]

when did you actually start playing?

[hollow hornet]

Alright, maybe

[abstract sequoia]

you should be able to see that by pressing on the phone menu and under "Login"

it will show a days played counter

[maiden garden]

i also played back then in idk. 2018 but i was a child with a samsung 4 so it didnt last long :,0

[abstract sequoia]

then that was a different account

[maiden garden]

ik.

i have another acc with this. (lvl 38)

[abstract sequoia]

okay i take it back, you pretty much are meeting returnee status

[abstract sequoia]

yeah don't bother

that's also a restart

i can tell why though

[maiden garden]

where do i see the day i made this acc. i think this one is older

[abstract sequoia]

you can get back to where you were in just a few days

[abstract sequoia]

you can only see that at a certain captain level

[maiden garden]

oh 💔

[maiden garden]

so i restartß :,0 💔

[abstract sequoia]

but really, if you aren't max level and already have many current meta stuff or rare old stuff then it's usually always a restart

!faq returnee

[small willow]

Returnee Accounts

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Returnee Accounts pin!

Please send us an imgur album in #👶beginner-help of your significant S-Rank Valkyries and the first page of your Weapons and Stigmata. We will help you decide whether it is worth keeping.

If your account:

• Is below level 80
• Lacks established teams
• Isn't dear to you/doesn't have limited collectables that you care about.

Then:

[abstract sequoia]

read through the "Click here"

and really, try to get familiar with all of the guides here, starting with what's in bold letters

you don't have to use another e-mail btw

and you don't have to go through this alone, we can help you through every step

[maiden garden]

wait but doesnt that mean the other acc gets deleted :0

[abstract sequoia]

no

you're just making a new account

[e-mail] is another hoyoverse account than [e-mail], but both accounts end up emailing to [e-mail]

this way you won't have to make another mail account

just another hoyoverse account

[maiden garden]

so i do that?

[shadow gyro]

basically you're making new hoyoverse account without making a Google account from scratch

so just take ur email and add a dot somewhere and that's salting for ya
then you can have the password whatever you want for the hoyoverse account

[maiden garden]

Ahh ikkk now

omg it worked?

[odd plume]

that trick work for basically anything that require an email, like other game, forum, fb etc.

[maiden garden]

never knew lmao. thats so smart

[lapis lichen]

Should I pick HoHE or HoT from the selector box?

[prisma oyster]

hohe

or just save it lol

btw for anyone here who still has beginner mission (??) i forgot what its called but can anyone share what the event page looks like rn

i feel like it changed

[odd plume]

better wait till near the end, we will get more info about next patch, could have something that may affect your decision
if nothing special and if you are very new, most likely that you will pick HoH, unless you already got her somewhere

[lapis lichen]

ok ill save it for now and see what I should do when the next patch is out

btw when is the next patch speculated to be releasing?

[prisma oyster]

jan 1/2

[odd plume]

just next patch info, not the release, they will tell us what in it few weeks before the release

[lapis lichen]

ah ok, hopefully someone will be released that is good with HLE

[odd plume]

the box will end on Dec 31, just wait till anywhere before that

[maiden garden]

i just wanted to ask IF I SHOULD PULL SENADINA OR SONQUE. but then i was like. i only have to do 1 pull for the mission and youd porbably say HLE anyways so i did only 1 pull AND GOT HER

[serene crystal]

Neither

starter banner is a scam they have no meaningful use

[storm lantern]

atp probably sena honestly i think a new wod is more likely than a new loa since hle has the tag

and ofc dont pull weapon or craft her stigs

[maiden garden]

to many new words for me

[strong void]

should i spend the honkai shards and weapon mats to level up the useless divine keys (oath of judah, jizo mitama etc.) just to get better gene limit?

[storm lantern]

eventually yes but valks you use take priority

[ionic magnet]

is it js me or is the top student exam event so annoying to play

[maiden garden]

so is she good or did i do a mistake again

[storm lantern]

if you actually got her off the 1 refunded pull its fine

[slim blaze]

cool

[maiden garden]

would ve songque been better?

[muted shoal]

She likely won't do much for you for a while but we take those

[storm lantern]

maybe? depends on info we dont have and i wouldnt have stalled to see 8.6 valk's ring type before pulling

[shadow gyro]

hmm to be honest the other character is slightly more worth it but honestly i don't think it matters at all
you only needed to do 1 pull and you got lucky, i would keep that because its rare

[slim blaze]

theoretially speaking SQ should be minimally better just because i think the instant crystallize countss for something

but meh,

enjoy

[muted shoal]

There's an argument to be made for either side tbh

Both decent, both wouldn't provide you much value until a while later depending on what gets released in the future that we don't know about

So you can just appreciate the insane luck you got on that

[hollow parrot]

hey i was wondering for the HLE cope team should i choose the purana phastasm for Rc?

[strong void]

RC doesn't even work with astral ring tho

[ancient needle]

Yes, but there isn't anything else for beginners

VBs ain't good for HLE

[ancient needle]

Yeah, sure, the other weaps won't do much for you

[ancient needle]

Also RC still provides buffs (cuz there's no "if Astral Ring is inactive" condition anywhere)

[hollow parrot]

alr 👍

[ancient needle]

I don't think it's worth leveling beyond lvl 35 tho

[maiden garden]

who do i chose (i love elysia)

[storm lantern]

u can wait for a while but probably hohe

unless ur planning on buying level rush

[ancient needle]

Both are equally useless for a new player pulling HLE, but HoHE has 30 extra crystals from the Starter Manual

[pale wigeon]

Is Herrscher of truth good for HoHe?

[ancient needle]

No

HoTr provides buffs for Fire and Lightning

[pale wigeon]

Should I just get stamps for hohe then?

[ancient needle]

It depends on what you have in general and your HoHE's rank

[pale wigeon]

It's the lowest I think

[ancient needle]

Okay, and what geared valks do you have?

And does HoHE have Flawless Benediction

[pale wigeon]

She's using key of ego rn

[pale wigeon]

here's all I have

[ancient needle]

Yeah, getting HoHE's ranks is not worth at all then (unless you're planning to backpull it, which is not recommended)
You can get HoTr for free ER crystals and Dorm EXP then

ER is Elysian Realm, a gamemode that unlocks at lvl 50

[pale wigeon]

I'm around 45 rn

Also

In the other banner we got 2 10 pulls for, should I get Sparkle or that one Kiana

[ancient needle]

Wait a bit until the valks there change and try to get Peregrine Sword

Only with free pulls

Badum is acceptable if you really want her, Vita and Sparkle aren't worth at all though

[pale wigeon]

Alright, thx!

[granite brook]

Omg

@ancient needle youve ascended to a professor

I remember when you were just a little one

[ivory jolt]

Should I go for hohe rank up stamps or the ancient willpower? I want more ranks cuz elysia is oomf but also if I get the will power, I can unlock bke from war treasury for more pulls from er

[ancient needle]

Well, do you have HoHE's new weap?

Flawless Benediction

And do you have the proper team for her?

[ivory jolt]

I tried and they gave me 30 of her stigmata instead ❤️

I had like 3 copies of solomon tmb but no key

And I was thinking yea hohe stamps are nice but her divine key would make up for the slight raise in battlesuit ranks so maybe the crystals would be better as I'm going for horb divine key

[ancient needle]

Are you planning to backpull it (even though it's not recommended)?

[ivory jolt]

yes because elysia is oomf and I love her

[ancient needle]

And you didn't answer about the proper team

[ivory jolt]

Ah yeah idk her proper team

what would it be

[ancient needle]

Show what P2 valks you have

[ancient needle]

You have Sena and HLE, that's very solid

You can go for ranks if you really want to, just keep in mind that they won't be as impactful as you might think

And HoHE without her new weap is pretty much not functional

[ivory jolt]

also really quick, for a new beginner, is hohe or hotr better?

[lime narwhal]

I know it isn't clever to compare games but, deep sequence on elysian real is basically same as SU? But in this case I can only get gem rewards if I get all signets of a certain type, once?

[ivory jolt]

yeah that's what I'm thinking, cuz if I get the ancient willpower, I'll get like bke from war treasury for the er pulls

[ancient needle]

If you pull HLE both are equally useless xdd

[ancient needle]

Just get HoTr

She's in ER too

[ivory jolt]

oh I already have her lol I got her on her first banner

[ancient needle]

Rather than AW

Ah

[ancient needle]

But HoHE has 30 extra crystals from Starter Manual

[ancient needle]

AW is not valuable enough to go that route

[glad coral]

what stignet do i start with in er when using hle

[ancient needle]

Check the ER guide in the pins

[glad coral]

ty

[abstract sequoia]

Yes you get collection rewards from Flamechaser signets like obtaining every Aeon's blessing once

[lime narwhal]

Okay, thanks, kinda wanna play a bit there with HLE but at the same time I feel bad if it gives nothing in return besides the weekly lmao

[abstract sequoia]

both are roguelikes with crazily enhancing existing abilities, but in Elysian Realm you also have Elysia signets that can change valkyrie playstyles entirely

[tame mirage]

I'm currently 10 pulls away from getting the spending event skin, I doubt I'll get anything with it but should I spend it on the dkey banner or the battlesuit supply/wait until bfd rerun? I have everything that's going to run until the end of spending event except for dkey (don't have horb) or SOs and everything is at max pity right now

[abstract sequoia]

you also have a shop, similar to herta's shop but more focused on valkyrie stamps (10 fragments toward rank-ups) and other materials every week/version

for the valk stamps to unlock, you need to complete a run with that valk in a specific or harder difficulty

doing one run with the hardest requirement is enough to unlock them all

[lime narwhal]

Thanks. Tbh I don't have most of the balls shown in the shop, but with time I might get there 🙂

[tacit mist]

Please help who do I choose?

[fluid grove]

how do i make xp fast? just do the story?

[wintry wharf]

and the bp missions + starter book missions they give a lot of exp

[ancient needle]

HoTr's SS2 is pretty useless, while HoHE's SS is very nice

Do you have the proper team for HoHE though?

[tacit mist]

I think so

[ancient needle]

Yeah, you do

[tacit mist]

Ok thx

[burnt moth]

Hi im new in discord

[pearl pike]

wheres the homu traveller shop

[prisma oyster]

i see u

[keen pilot]

...

[prisma oyster]

[flat garden]

Guys, i need help

[serene crystal]

What is your problem then?

[flat garden]

1 sec

[flat garden]

HoHE or HoT

or 600 ancient willpower

rn i have 550

[serene crystal]

Not the willpower read #👶beginner-help message for further considerations about which valk to pick

[upper oracle]

How big is s2 hotr to ss? Deciding on whether 5 hotr stamps or new hohe

[safe laurel]

good that samone told me to save gems, and not waste it for spending event. also getting bow for ego is good idea?
do we get some free skins this patch or other free stuff. didnt expect free ego, i didnt claim one since i didnt bother to finish its quests before xd

[serene crystal]

This bow only works for Hi Love Elf and does nothing for Ego for what you get this patch see the schedule in #💁gameplay-help

[safe laurel]

also funny that it shares pity with other returner banners

[safe laurel]

wait xd i would almost pull same copy xd

[upper oracle]

Mainly considering hohe for the er xtals unless there's smth else she's good for

[safe laurel]

i am stupid sometimes xdd

i happy for no early

[serene crystal]

Have you read the message I linked just above @upper oracle

[upper oracle]

Ah

[safe laurel]

then other question would it be worth to pull for ego bow if it gets rerun?

at least i got a enough of stigma material

[pearl pike]

wheres the time traveller shop

[serene crystal]

No, she has very niche usage at this point in general don't pull on reruns from a meta perspective

• to compete in her niche use cases you would also need ranks

It should be under event shop

[spiral badge]

Homu traveller? Time traveller? Can you elaborate what you're looking for?

If it's time capsule then supply>shop>bottom category on left

[pearl pike]

homu traveller

[spiral badge]

repeating the same words as before isn't going to give me a greater idea of what you're asking for

what's in this shop? Where are you seeing this name from?

[ancient needle]

Time Capsule?

If yes, it's in the Events tab on the left

Or you can go to Supply -> Shop -> Event Shop

[viral sapphire]

heyho im new i wanted to ask is there a chat or smth with available codes

[spiral badge]

what kind of codes are you looking for? We have a pin with currently recent redeemable codes

[viral sapphire]

where

[spiral badge]

if you're looking for an invite code, maybe someone in the same server can give it to you here

or #invite-links-here

[viral sapphire]

no like codes for rewards

[spiral badge]

yes that's in the pins

what kind of system are you on? PC? Mobile?

[viral sapphire]

ahhh

pc

i found it thx

[austere umbra]

what to pick...

[spiral badge]

#👶beginner-help message

[austere umbra]

i own neither thelema nor hofi/hoo...does my choice therefore not matter lol

[spiral badge]

there's technically ways you can get them now (but getting their gears is another story that is more of an arm/leg). Overall meta wise i prob don't expect a use for now.

either way the main advice is to wait for now in case next patch changes anything

[serene crystal]

Most likely we are looking at ER crystals here I would not get your hope up about either ending up being useful

[austere umbra]

i have hohe already and her dkey, i odnt have hotr though

[spiral badge]

do you have any plans to get thele from spending event and her weapon from paid battle pass? (not recommended overall)

[austere umbra]

i mean how many pulls are needed to even get her?

[spiral badge]

we have a pin for that

but if you're already done with your HLE pulls or are skipping, then i don't really recommend pursuing this

if it's like maybe 10 pulls away then sure we can consider it more (still risky)

[austere umbra]

i am at this, but im not done pulling HLE

do i need to do all 23/23 to get thele

[spiral badge]

no. please look at the chart in the pins

but anyway finish your hle pulls first then assess the situation again later

are you having trouble understanding the chart?

[austere umbra]

nah i just saw it, i get it now

[spiral badge]

sorry for constantly pointing to other writeups. I think from our past history you know I am seeking to help, these guides are written enough that i would only be parroting them lol

[fluid grove]

which story is this exactly? i browsed through all chapters and i didnt find any named like that

[wispy aurora]

HoT for reward?

[serene crystal]

#👶beginner-help message see pins

[fluid grove]

ooo thankyouu

[atomic jetty]

hello everyone, quick question. should I pick the herrscher of truth or human ego? recently started playing after many years and I'm kinda lost

[dry python]

!faq cayguides

[small willow]

Current Patch Guides

At your service, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see Professor Cay's collection of Current Patch Guides!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[prisma fiber]

Do I pick Ely or HoTr?Alr have S2 ely

[terse tiger]

is htere a way to make Valkyrie teams?

[dry python]

#👶beginner-help message

[dry python]

Yeah there should be a button before the stage that says quick lineup

[terse tiger]

ah okay thanks

[terse tiger]

what do you guys recommend for stigmatas for herrcher of truth? I have kiana rn so im trying to get her some weapon and stigs

cause I dont have origin rn

[lyric anvil]

Who do I even choose?

[spiral badge]

#👶beginner-help message

[lyric anvil]

Alright

[maiden garden]

Is anything better than other option

[cosmic iris]

is abyss flower or hler's serenity better on bke?

[spiral badge]

generally abyss flower. However BKE even at her maximum potential is highly outdated.

At this point, Abyss Flower is only obtained to be tuned and integrated into the divine key menu for passive +10 atk

also keep in mind Abyss Flower is available from Reserve Works bp shop permanently

if you're considering this from the event dkey box, you may want to reconsider. The only weapon there not obtainable from anywhere else is Star of Eden Anti Entropy (and even then you may opt to leave the box alone for now for collection/possible affix in the future in case they force SoEAE on us in another way)

[cosmic iris]

tysm 🙏

[serene crystal]

Source prisms see more use and are more annoying to get then ether fuel unless you are trying to do something with p1 Stigmas which makes ether fuel more useful but still pretty easy to get from weekly Universal Mirage. You only use ether fuel for crafting a copy of prism stigmas while source prisms are also used for upgrading them and generally the main stumbling block for upgrading them. @maiden garden

[viral granite]

Hi i have a question is HoOrigin and HoTruth will have new equipments in the futur?

[spiral badge]

Nobody knows right now. I can only tell you to look at #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins for confirmed future official info

I entertained some brainstorming about it here.

but i might be wrong. I also don't know and I can't say anything for sure.

[muted shoal]

99.9% that they won't

since HFI dkey was already designed to include them both

[fluid grove]

which do i claim

[spiral badge]

!faq what dkey

[small willow]

Which DKey should I claim first?

Hello, Captain!

Also check out the Divine Key explanation pin [here](#👶beginner-help message) if anything mentioned (such as "gene limit") is confusing/unknown to you.

In the long run it doesn't matter, but the ideal order is:
1 - Grips of Tai Xuan (gloves, cope glove weapon and ice gene limit).
2 - Cleaver/Judgement of Shamash (guns/greatsword, need both to sync for +10 attack and fire gene limit).
3 - Jizo Mitama (katana, phys gene limit attached to it).
4 - Star of Eden (cannon, has no attached gene limit it just exists).

[fluid grove]

cool thanks sai

[maiden garden]

@abstract sequoia i got HLE

[serene crystal]

Good then try to get her weapon before the banner leaves.

[maiden garden]

if i get the weapon should i also get stigmata? or do i pull kiana

[serene crystal]

Stigs can be crafted in foundry so you don't pull for them specifically.

Optimally you just wait after that, I would not use crystals for the carnival banners but spending the free pulls on Fiery Wishing Star or Peregrine sword is generally a good idea as both can support HLE. I would lean towards PS since bleed and hitcount is somewhat more important then better SD performance but the difference isn't massive.

Note that if you spend crystals on Carnival that the pity doesn't carry over after this patch so you need to have enough to guarantee what you are going for.

If you want to spend on something FDD which comes later is generally the best choice see #💁gameplay-help pins for schedule

[maiden garden]

Ah i see
Thx

[spiral badge]

was that actually a choice? I thought it was to get both tbh

but yeah prisms instead of fuel

[warped geyser]

u get both

[proper sleet]

I need help

Am I too poor

How do I farm gold?

I know expeditions, open world comissions, etc might help

But outside of that

[topaz bay]

Will bfd be rerun? And if so, when will it be?

[ancient needle]

Yes, she'll rerun

You can check the patch schedule in #💁gameplay-help pins

[ancient needle]

If you're broke there's not much you can do other than slowly get the coins back up

You can salvage your 3* weaps to improve the situation a lil bit

[ancient needle]

Should get you a couple mils if you pulled in gacha

[spiral badge]

!faq coins

[small willow]

Saving Coins

I'm here to help, Captain!

To save coins, upgrade your (M) Stigma to 5-star, and leave it unlevelled at Lv. 1/50!
Why? Because there is no damage loss doing so!
(See image below)

You'll save a chunk of coins and twin soul crystals, which can be used for upgrading other equipment!

NOTE: This does not apply to all (M) Stigmata, [click here](#👶beginner-help message) for a more detailed explanation!

[spiral badge]

also this when upgrading M stigmatas for elemental dps

[upper laurel]

Any idea what I should pick with this?

[fierce dome]

i had the same question except i have neither of them

[serene crystal]

see pins

[proper sleet]

I am so poor that I cant upgrade my valks abilities

😭

[rugged compass]

Love ur DAFL usage

[spiral badge]

that is very normal and why we encourage people to be conservative early on. It's also how people appreciate the resources from buying the battle pass

[keen pilot]

i should get this right?

[void mural]

Wanted to ask about Hi love ER guide please

[serene crystal]

should be in the ER pin

Yes that is the one you should get for lightning gene limit

[keen pilot]

i should be doing this?

[ancient needle]

Yes

[keen pilot]

thanks!

[serene crystal]

yes it just means that you can't use it to craft a different pri arm

[odd pecan]

damn i just read pin about event box with hohe or hotr...i have hohe with astral ring thing...so i just choose hotr ;-;

[keen pilot]

what about this? should i get it to lvl 8 for 10 atk?

[warped geyser]

sync will get you 10 atk, getting it to level 8 gives you 8 atk i'm pretty sure

[serene crystal]

You should level it to upgrade the gene limit level 9 should max the important damage %

[glad coral]

whats the best horb team atm

[serene crystal]

For last boss you did LP + FWS

[upper laurel]

im fully done spending. what is y'alls reccomendations

[serene crystal]

Have you read the pin on spending event?

[upper laurel]

yes, I'm still not sure what I should get though

[serene crystal]

You are new so you have none of the characters and can't get MPS so I would recommend ELF box as baseline unless you have some specific considerations

[upper laurel]

I dont know what an Elf Box is

[serene crystal]

furthest option to the right in the screenshot

[upper laurel]

Really? What do I want that for? I thought old valks were all outdated

[trail shore]

Elf not Valk

[upper laurel]

I dont understand

[serene crystal]

ELFs are an older alternative to astral ops and 4 star elf kiana is damage wise an upgrade to SS dreamseeker in most teams so getting ELF fragments in each spending event allows you an option to get an upgrade to dreamseeker if you don't buy Astral Ops.

[upper laurel]

but I dont even know what astral ops are

;-; ughh

idek what dreamseeker is

[sour valve]

is HOT worth getting or should I get more Ely copies for fun?

[upper laurel]

christ entropy is literally shorter than dreamseeker

[sour valve]

oh its in the pins

[upper laurel]

So, this?

[serene crystal]

yes

[sour valve]

welp ima get ely copies

[upper laurel]

So what do I even do with this little troglodyte

[warped geyser]

☠️☠️

[serene crystal]

When you start a fight at the top over your characters there is a symbol you can click this and you go to a menu where you can choose Astral Ops and Elfs

If you want to use Elf Kiana you go over to the ELF tab. She is only worth using once she is at least 3 star where she is a sidegrade to DS with slightly higher stellar outburst damage but somewhat lower starting Astral ring intensity so you use her if the fight like most don't require an early SO

[outer spruce]

entropy is just the default name for dreamseeker if you don't change the name in the story, we normally shorten it to DS

the game calls it dreamseeker everywhere else in the game

[amber swift]

is hohe or hotr ss more valuable

[twilit junco]

which

[twilit junco]

oh nvm

[outer spruce]

there's a guide in the pins

[twilit junco]

yea just saw

only S characters r sonq and cora
so ima just wait

[spiral badge]

?

well seems the situation was resolved now

[lapis lichen]

Hiya, just wondering what I should pick from these boxes

[warped geyser]

hold onto it

i will say tho that torus, stabilizer, and ether fuel are harder to get but still save it until you really need it

[lapis lichen]

ok ill save it then, thanks 🙂

when should i start refining my HLE stigmatas and what do you guys recommend i go for when i do refine them?

[limpid sand]

Is Hos any good

[amber finch]

no

[limpid sand]

Omg it's y again

[amber finch]

all war treasury valks are basically unusable nowadays

[limpid sand]

Mr chesferatu

[amber finch]

recommended to read the faq i sent, if you're affixing then get only sd/archer atk

[limpid sand]

It's because in some of those tutorials thingys in game I see her being used as a support a lot

[amber finch]

because the tutorials are 500 years old

[limpid sand]

And I've heard people say she was relevant for a while

So I was wondering if that ended

[amber finch]

and now she's 500ft underground

[lapis lichen]

thanks ill have a look at it

[amber finch]

oh like 2+ years ago

[limpid sand]

Also what is that part 1 part 2 thing I only know it changed a lot of stuff 💔

I played 4 yrs ago quit played 2 yrs ago played 1 yr ago quit n now I'm actually playing the game

[amber finch]

part 1 = old main story (iconic casts)
part 2 = new main story (new casts: sena, helia, coralie, sera etc)

[limpid sand]

Ohh is that why those girlies don't have 59483 forms like the trio

When did part 2 release

[amber finch]

because the story hasnt been around for almost a decade

[amber finch]

in 7.3 and no i dont know the exact date of 7.3

[limpid sand]

Huh wym

[amber finch]

p2 story

[limpid sand]

Like they aren't making new chapters

[amber finch]

like it isnt as old as p1

p1 alone is literally older than genshin

[outer spruce]

p2 started feb 2024

[amber finch]

thx jahjab luv u

[limpid sand]

Oh I know that but its just a bit confusing

I meant so the new girlies don't have so many new forms because the story itself isn't that old and I guessed correctly

I'm trying to find vids I'm yt explaining things but they r all 2 yrs old 💔

[amber finch]

if you want someone to explain the lore to you then #📚honkai-lore

they should either have vids abt it or they'll just explain it to you

[limpid sand]

Not lore just stuff about the game such as what was the difference between p1 and p2

[outer spruce]

game isn't that popular so there's not many videos

[limpid sand]

All guides I find r so olddd

[amber finch]

then just ask here, diff is gacha and the astral ring system

[limpid sand]

Yes yes but I feel bad if I ask too much 💔

[amber finch]

just dont feel bad

its this what the help channels were made for

[limpid sand]

I know y'all wouldn't respond unless u wanted to help but I feel like I ask a lot 🙏

[amber finch]

you are encouraged to ask questions

[amber finch]

just ask then

[limpid sand]

Also divine keys have me tweaking omg what r u

[limpid sand]

Also I experienced the great depression that is chapter 9😭

[amber finch]

i can guarantee you, the amount of questions that you've asked is like 1/20th of the amount i had to answer back when i was super active

[limpid sand]

How do u find these so fast

[amber finch]

the search bar

[limpid sand]

O

[amber finch]

you just remember the faq's name and search it up

[limpid sand]

Also is there a list somewhere with how people reffer to herrechers because some of them confuse me so bad

[amber finch]

glossary in pins

[amber finch]

also try not to mention any part of story in here

[limpid sand]

Okii

[amber finch]

there are some other ways not mentioned there but usually its literally just "oh what about the new ely that just released"

[humble parrot]

Heyy, uhm, i saw some people being able to redeem Elysia HoH from a Daily claim but I haven't got it, anyone know how?

[amber finch]

check the EVENTS tab

[humble parrot]

Still did but I can't find it anywhere

[amber finch]

what level are you

[humble parrot]

21

Captain Lvl

[limpid sand]

I think u need 25 I'm not sure

💔me trynna give advice

[humble parrot]

Ohh that makes sense acc

[amber finch]

please dont try to give advices if you're not actually sure abt the info

[amber finch]

just barely passed it huh, are you sure you've checked everything

[amber finch]

it's wrong, you only need 20+

[humble parrot]

I'll log in my account and check if i can see it

[limpid sand]

Also from the other options isn't 1.2k crystals less than 5 pulls

💔

[amber finch]

yes

its just a straight up scam unless you're super desperate for crystals for the outfit banner

[limpid sand]

Or the carnival thingy

[amber finch]

you can turn the normal cards into carnival cards

[limpid sand]

Oo

Also how do yall take ss in the game it doesn't let me 💔

[amber finch]

i just take a full ss of my screeen

[limpid sand]

Also for my rank being 41 that thing that's like abyss where lvl 10 I fight Wendy does it continue because I don't see more chapters

It's like in 10 stages

[outer spruce]

you have to wait till reset to play again

[amber finch]

you're talking about qmanifold right

[limpid sand]

Yes yes

[amber finch]

10 stages should just be the max for it

[bleak hatch]

I mean I didnt played for month honkai and now i am kinda confused

[limpid sand]

I thought there's more since it was easy to do and I thought it was like for higher ranks

[bleak hatch]

I just started play again

[amber finch]

horb dkey is not worth it and it's very underwhelming

if you want to fix your account then focus on hle instead

[bleak hatch]

And I see banner of elysia but I remember Herscher of rebirth going out too

[amber finch]

glossary in pins for abbreviations

[outer spruce]

q manifold has higher ranks but you have to wait till reset

[bleak hatch]

Hle?

[amber finch]

currently there are no ways to obtain herrscher of rebirth unless you pay 30 usd for it

[bleak hatch]

So she will be pay to win?

[amber finch]

@bleak hatch here's a freebie: hi love elf

[bleak hatch]

Not for gems?

[limpid sand]

Also from the event u guys said to pick that divine key that's like a canon since u can't craft it right

[amber finch]

she's way too old for any banner reruns, we are expecting hoyo to dump her into the banner reserve works shop soon

[bleak hatch]

So hle is better option?

[humble parrot]

Ohh i got it, but im confused, should i get HoT or HoH?

[outer spruce]

yeah it's the only one in the box you can't get normally in reserve shop

[bleak hatch]

Because some says herscher of rebirth is op

[amber finch]

check pins for an explaination on what to pull this patch

[amber finch]

those some are lying out of their ass then

[limpid sand]

Can u tell me the name of the divine key so I don't confuse it 💔

[amber finch]

check pins

[bleak hatch]

So elysia is better than seele?

Dang

[limpid sand]

I heard in a yt vid that people thought HoR was gonna be good for a while like HoS but she fell off real fast

[amber finch]

already told you like 4 times so i'll not answer you again

[outer spruce]

star of eden: anti entropy

[bleak hatch]

Sorry mb

[amber finch]

.

for everyone in this channel who's asking these kind of question, do make sure you've check the pinned messages here and ask again if you're confused

[limpid sand]

Also whys there a second weapon supply below Elysia even though only she's on banner as the limited

[amber finch]

for horb dkey

also everyone in the gacha section is considered as limited

the only banner that isnt "limited" is literally dorm supply

[limpid sand]

Wait u can get dkeys from pulling?

[humble parrot]

Yeah im confused, so it's up to me that they're equally good and that i should pull for what i think it's best for me?

[amber finch]

that's why most of the dkeys are called "gacha dkeys"

[amber finch]

no if you want to be meta

[limpid sand]

Also how can I get HoHe p2 weapon since someone asked me why im with her p1 weapon

[amber finch]

if you pull what you think is best, you'll just be biased and get whoever you like

[outer spruce]

gacha

[limpid sand]

Can it be crafted or anything else

[outer spruce]

it's not available right now

[humble parrot]

Yeah i don't want to be meta so I'll get Elysia-

[amber finch]

no, they wont give you a new dkey for free that easily

[outer spruce]

no gacha only, it's too new

[limpid sand]

If it's only in gacha on which banner 💔 im slow

[amber finch]

they're literally gate keeping a dkey thats like 4 years old

[amber finch]

not on banner rn

[outer spruce]

it's not available right now, you have to wait for the rerun

[amber finch]

.

[limpid sand]

Wait I feel stupid does dkey refer to a characters weapon as well or am I getting my brain fried

[outer spruce]

dkeys are weapons

[limpid sand]

OHH

[humble parrot]

Another question, hope it's not too dumb, how do i get those purple thingies to forge weapon?(currently trying to forge Jingwiu's Wings for HoV Kiana)

[amber finch]

dkeys are just weapons that provides permanent buffs to your account

[humble parrot]

There's an option in blue but I don't where it is

[limpid sand]

So u can equip them on someone as a weapon

[amber finch]

i sent this before btw

[limpid sand]

I know I forgot to read it 💔

I feel so stupid how did this not click

[amber finch]

yes

this is also a dkey

[limpid sand]

Also what is realms of battle

I'm still confusing all those game modes

[amber finch]

yeah if you just say "oh how do i get the purple/blue thing" when there are like 500 different things that fits the criteria, i cant really help ya, providing an img would be best

[gloomy oriole]

should i pick elysia rank up stamps or herrscher of truth

[amber finch]

check pins, tldr if you want collection n xtals then hotr

[amber finch]

weekly gamemode that gives you 5 free dkeys (they're the base dkeys that provides your account with buffs such as 8% more ice dmg)

[outer spruce]

so basically this game used to have co op and co op gave dkeys, since coop is gone, realm of battle is where you get them now

[limpid sand]

OH THAT THING I FOUND j Remember asking which to choose

[outer spruce]

there's 5 you get from realm of battle

[limpid sand]

Also for a begginer cope team who's good with HoHe

[amber finch]

is she the only valk you have

what about hle

[keen pilot]

rc and jk!!

[limpid sand]

Currently pulling her

My friend got hle and her full gear in 20 pulls..

[amber finch]

rc kira/ta, she'll be pretty shit but you're still new so shouldnt be that shit

[amber finch]

same

[limpid sand]

The kitty Kat girl?

[outer spruce]

yes

[amber finch]

glossary in pins and yes

[limpid sand]

Yes yes I'm using her and this blue haired girl I think she's a physical support

[amber finch]

blue haired girl with dual pistol = ice support with elemental supporting capabilities

[limpid sand]

Starry impression

I'm using her with HoHe and cat girl

[amber finch]

replace her with ta or kira

hohe is not a phys dps and she has 0 phys dmg in her kit

si is a bleed phys support

[limpid sand]

I have helia Coralie Blueberry blitz and flame sakitama

[amber finch]

if thats all that you have then coralie i suppose

[limpid sand]

And the others Im not mentioning since they r free units

Would HoS be good with her I'm 3 puzzles away from getting her

[amber finch]

hos is an impair physical support

and hos is old + heavily relies on you getting enough sp for her ult in a semi short time

[limpid sand]

Oo

I just got unbral rose would she work

[amber finch]

useless + doesnt support hohe

[limpid sand]

Oki

[terse blaze]

What do I choose from the HoHE and HoTr box?

[cobalt finch]

Can anyone give me tips on what to do? I started like half an week ago and im fully lost

[shut seal]

What am I supposed to select

[limpid sand]

guys shold i tune my divine key idk what it does

[humble parrot]

it took me 30 minutes of upgrading Elysia that she's probably meta

[maiden garden]

is it worth it to pull for astral ops

[shell basin]

Not unless you’re in Nirvana and have a bunch of spare crystals

If you really like them you can do it anyway but not for meta

[maiden garden]

okay thx

[shell basin]

Yes, it’s necessary to use the account wide bonuses. Only time not to is if you have multiple copies of the same dkey, if that happens somehow come talk

[maiden garden]

and this is also not worth it right?

[shell basin]

HotR almost certainly, unless you have HoHE dkey. You won’t get much use out of either but you have trio and they can cope MA, plus HotR can also cope support paws in MA

[shell basin]

No, free pulls only unless you have a ton of crystals and want to rank up asap

[maiden garden]

and 1 more question (sorry) is there still any ways to get the dkey for HoHe

[shell basin]

Try to pull Hi Love elf and her weapon. You can get crystals from the part 1 story and from abyss and Elysian realm (needs you to reach level 50 first so requires doing more story)

[shell basin]

It will rerun at some point, we’re do for it in the next few patches, but nobody knows exactly when

[cobalt finch]

Okii and what team should I use? Also how do I get better weapons..

[shell basin]

There’s a whole pins thing on it. If you’re still confused after reading it you can ask more questions but it should explain things

[terse blaze]

oh ty

[maiden garden]

and if it reruns it probably wouldnt be worth it anymore right?

[shell basin]

Yeah. If you have a lot of crystals it's not the worst backpull but broadly speaking no backpull is reccomended

so "not the worst" is relative

[shell basin]

for teams, you can check out here:
#👶beginner-help message

Broadly you'll probably want to use VBM / Hohe / HoV dps until you get better options, and make use of VBM / RC / TA as general supports (plus SI and JK as more specific ones) but these are just tiding you over until you have more options from the gacha

once you pull Hi Love Elf, you'll want to pull her bow from the gacha

tho doing it the other way is silly because you can use her without her weapon and cope but her weapon without her is useless

[cobalt finch]

vbm..hohe..hov.. time to go learn the names.

[shell basin]

glossary of terms is here

#👶beginner-help message

[regal fossil]

who’s worth it in here rn

[shell basin]

Check the war treasury pin but broadly you won't use any of them for meta so it's just unlocking people who are in the elysian realm, which gives you dorm levels and crystals

ideally some stress tests too

[humble parrot]

Is Elysia HoH meta? i got her and she gives more dmg than my HoV Kiana

[shell basin]

With her dkey she's niche but way better than any free battlesuits. Without her dkey she's pretty cope but again still better than most free ones

You'll make use of her in memorial arena for a while but as soon as you get any gacha battlesuits you won't use her in abyss anymore, same goes for HoV tho

VBM will continue to be used because she's also a good support

[hardy reef]

what should i get from the secret garden’s event box? these are my two accs

also, if i get the ancient willpower in the first account i will have enough for character so there’s that

[shell basin]

You won't really use either but Hotr is probably more useful for you than hohe because she can cope support vita in some situations. Both are better than ancient willpower

not only are they better than the ancient willpower valkyries it's also just less mats

theyre a whole s rank and the ancient willpower is like a third of one or smth

[wraith brook]

If i have HoTr S can i get SS if take box?

[amber finch]

if you only have her at s0 then no

[blazing thistle]

Does pity on carnival supply save?

[amber finch]

yes, however the pity expires after this patch

[serene crystal]

You get s2 then

[wraith brook]

then its no matter waht i choose?

Just as i know to better Energy regen we need ss HoTr
for Trio or Even just HoO

For HoO*

[shadow gyro]

for best pick show what recent p1 valks + p2 valks (with gear for both) that you have
also if you have any elfs/aops
and your abyss goals i guess

[wraith brook]

(with gear for both) i need show all my valk with Gear?

wait

I i need supplement it

also if you have any elfs/aops-not sure if i have any good elf but DS SS
About Abyss goal u mean RL or Nirv?

Or i miss it with MA?

[shadow gyro]

yeah

[shadow gyro]

yeah
you can type it too if you need to
but a screenshot would be better so i can see the ranks

[green gale]

Should I get Herrscher of human ego or Herrscher of Truth?

Or the 600 ancient will power?

[shadow gyro]

by any means don't get the AW

there's a guide in pins that can help

otherwise you wanna talk about what valks n gear do you have + your goals for abyss

[upper laurel]

I wanna do this right?

[shadow gyro]

yeah

[green gale]

Well I only have Felis & Jade knight for ice.

I was wondering if ho truth/Ho He Would help.

Can probably Brute Force with Fdd Coralie though.

[shadow gyro]

no no i need to know more beyond ice
like what valk do you have geared that can pair up with them
because otherwise it doesn't matter much what valk you pick
oh also u cant/don't want to get hoh from beginner rush? assume you have that

[green gale]

Okay

[wraith brook]

im just
Not sure even we have access to send 10 pic
i cant spam with all my valk p1 and p2

[green gale]

just hit 80 recently

[slim blaze]

What are the invite link missions again?

New accounts = lvl 50
10k bp?

[wraith brook]

Well since i dont have any AstralOP im not sure if i can go nirv , and what i can do it cuz need to sweet,
and just based on what i take breaak for more then 1 moth too afect on this and better forgot about nirv

[shadow gyro]

can you merge the images with an editing app?
or use imgur?
otherwise if you can write them with ranks n how much gear is there that works too

[shadow gyro]

hmm i see yeah neither choice matters to you
i say wait first if we get any news that can affect the choice
just claim the box because the duration is over which is somewhere in dec

neither will matter to ur acc if ure looking for more characters for MA n stuff

just don't pick the AW bc u got other ways to get em

[slim blaze]

I just go to hoyolab and take a screenshot ngl.

Then put a check mark on those who are 4/4

[shadow gyro]

that can work
the only downside is that you can't filter if you need it tho... but i can work with this

[slim blaze]

Its at most 4 screenshots haha

[shadow gyro]

alr

[slim blaze]

Oh like the in game filter?

[shadow gyro]

yeah

[slim blaze]

Then take a screenshot in game?

[shadow gyro]

ill let em decide
the important thing for me is to know their geared valk so i can decide who from the bix fits the best

[shadow gyro]

i admit i need to go now so if someone else doesn't help then ill try later

otherwise don't sweat it, the box will stay till somewhere in dec, you don't have to pick anything right now

[wraith brook]

with an editing app? not sure if i know any, mb paint but loose too much quality
not know about imgur.
I have idea like, i can send all valk and u can Mark, if need any info about them (they usefull or smth like that) ( or (if im will be not too lazy) i can write mostly valks i have with gear- but not today?( i can ping u later when i have time and opportunity, but i guess it better do now?) .
Sry if it hard to read

[wraith brook]

Oh ok sry

and thanks

[shadow gyro]

its okay, you can list in text later
but yeah no rush

[wild wedge]

hi friends, i keep seeing this sc going around on twitter but when i open up the game it doesnt show up D: does it have any requirements?

[odd plume]

should be around lv30 or something

[gaunt oak]

what cope stigs can i use for PE in ER

[odd plume]

just read the effect and pick the one with highest buff

marco TM Attila B is the baseline

[gaunt oak]

tyty

do we know if getting all the valks here to SSS makes the chance for xtal appearance in adventure tasks higher

[shell basin]

it is very unclear

Hoyo hasn't told us and we dont have any real data on crystal rates anyway

[somber fable]

if i have hohe should i take the bronya from the box?

[small hare]

is pardofelis good with hoh ?

[odd plume]

i dont feel any change really

should be separated pool

just get more of material task instead

[odd plume]

if you are new, they do work together

[small hare]

ya i am

[odd plume]

some basic build for HoH team

[gaunt oak]

is AE the most cost effective there

[odd plume]

yes for me

[grim sinew]

Hello! I just discovered this game and want to get Mobius, how long will it take for me to get her since I heard she was farmable? And is it also true that she won't have a banner anymore so I can only get her thru farming? Thanks!

[storm lantern]

it's true she won't get a banner, idk how long it would take to get her since there are 1 time sources of the currency too

[odd plume]

can't really tell, within 2 months maybe

[shell basin]

And also your income increases as you level. Inside two months for sure even if you barely try but I don’t know how much less than 2 months

[grim sinew]

1 time currency? What's that? Like I can only farm once a month?

[shell basin]

As in some sources refresh every week and give you a weekly income, and some you do once and get a reward but cannot redo

[grim sinew]

Ohh

[shell basin]

The second are called one time rewards because they only happen one time

[grim sinew]

So the estimation is 2 months I see...

[shell basin]

Probably less than 2 months but I don’t know how much less

A lot depends on how quickly you level up and what content you clear and so forth

[odd plume]

current patch give you lot of the currency from event, could be less than 1.5 months

[grim sinew]

Ohh ok

Thanks for the help guys!!

[dusty tartan]

I started this week and I'm currently level 46. Can I do abyss and if so, how do I access it?

[amber finch]

abyss is a generalized term for qmanifold (captains below level 80) and superstring (only for captain level 81+)

so when you do qmanifold, you’re doing abyss

[storm lantern]

if you havent done it go quick bc it resets soon

[dusty tartan]

Oh ok, ty! This is all I can do right?

[odd plume]

yes, you cleared current abyss, will get promoted to harder abyss next cycle

same format just harder

[drowsy flume]

Helloo i was wondering how to progress past stage 1-6? I did all of elysia's stages but maybe im missing something obvious

[amber finch]

its just the game being bad, click at the very left edge of the 1-6 book

for some reason if you click on the middle of the book it registers as you trying to go to another stage

[drowsy flume]

Ohh ok thank you!

[storm lantern]

small indie company pls understand

[amber finch]

if only they made some of the most popular gacha games in the world

[crystal heart]

Whose stronger? Herrscher if the void? Or Raiden Mei?

I’m trying to think who to choose

[lone crater]

which mei

both useless tho

[storm lantern]

i guess u mean ci? hov should be stronger

[toxic sundial]

If I rank up my hohe is that better than the truth one without rank and normal

[crystal heart]

I like Reis aesthetic

[storm lantern]

if u would prefer using ci for story go ahead, you eventually stop being able to use your own valks

[reef relic]

What is this?

[frosty kernel]

who should i pick here? picking hotr? but idk if she is any use besides for er

[amber swift]

if both of these can reach SS which one should i choose? i read the pins and im still not sure

i have full trio with 4 star kiana elf, and i have 4/4 thelema

[shell basin]

Hotr is just for ER and for MA cope unless you have hofi, especially gearless. If you have her dkey I would pick Hohe, otherwise hotr

[lone crater]

u have dkey?

[odd plume]

you give your invite code to new players or returnees, they use it to get some crystal and a set of mission, after they complete those mission, you get the crystal

[amber swift]

oh and i have them both 4/4, including hohe new gear

[odd plume]

how about trio?

oh you have them

[amber swift]

yes, all 4/4 and 4 star kiana elf

[odd plume]

better wait for next patch news, it could have something that may affect your decision

like if new valk is better than trio, you may not want to get HOTR rank

[lone crater]

also depends on if new valk is same damage type

[amber swift]

i see, is there any news rn on cn or am i just gonna wait

[lone crater]

im more leaning towards ss hotr

cuz hohe shares same type as hle

[odd plume]

just wait

if nothing special, i think hotr is the better pick
in theory, she can support hofi and hoo dps, a bit more chance to get used than hoh

[amber swift]

true but im not pulling her, i have no plans on getting her when she comes back either
im saving for next patch

i was worried about how well im gonna do in ice weather

[old parrot]

guys what is a divine key?? and how do I get it for my hohe

[lone crater]

in that case, maybe if they run typeless stuff like hellmaru then ur forced to use hohe but if ur bracket sweaty ur not gonna retain

[odd plume]

her dkey is gacha only, have to wait for its banner

[lone crater]

cuz hle basically took all of hoh weathers

[amber swift]

yeah ); idk if i should try to make hohe bettwe with ss to make my chances better in ice weather or to give up on trying to make her work and make bronya better instead. it doesnt help that it feels like everyone and their mom has hle

[lone crater]

there's like flying thing, rpc something something, which drops the cans and freezes, but that boss has not ran in forever

ans there's kasumi but yea haven't seen her either

[lone crater]

well idk man, ss is better than s2 but won't change the result if theres 10 hle who knows how to press buttons

since hle isnt exactly hard to play

[amber swift]

yeaah i figured, it kinda feels hopeless to try to retain in ice weathers

i also like bronya way more so id prefer her. i just dont know if its the right choice