👶beginner-help

[quick birch]

If Horb has her divine key that works yes

Just make sure to make HoRb the leader

[fallen shale]

also would thelema at least be useful in memorial arena or is she literally just xp

[daring oak]

Horb key is the one in the supply right now right running with hle? (sea-cleansing floret)

[fallen shale]

I'm between here

[shadow gyro]

since u don't have her weapon n u don't have any ws or wod, she'll just be a throwaway option until you get her weapon somehow (mainly bp) or if there's any new ws or wod valks

[storm lantern]

she would clear faster than the p1 valks you have but not having her weapon means her scores will not actually be good

[fallen shale]

14/23

[shadow gyro]

i wanted to see the page since i also wanna know if you capped the dorm mission but its alright

[fallen shale]

I have capped the dorm missions

it's these two, right?

[quick birch]

Yeah

[shadow gyro]

at least you'll get + 75 currency making you close to thel

[fallen shale]

is the carnival gacha rate the same as the regular gacha rate

[shadow gyro]

i don't remember, but don't expect much from the free pulls

u should be able to check the rates tho

[fallen shale]

where

[dawn rain]

me who uses Cleaver of Shamash with VKE Himeko:

[shadow gyro]

if you go to the carnival supply and click the valk herself

[fallen shale]

oh ok

[sweet flax]

Utu is free

[fallen shale]

yea it's the same

both 1.5%

[sweet flax]

Have some standards

[maiden garden]

Is that a divine key?

[shadow gyro]

yes

[maiden garden]

What ways to lvl up here

[shadow gyro]

make sure you do your adventure tasks

[maiden garden]

I see
I think it's available in the event right?
With the box

[shadow gyro]

yes but there's something else in there that isn't available rn so u would rather get it or keep the box just incase
utu is in reserve shop and worth getting from there

[maiden garden]

Nothing other than that?
I wanna get to 12 for cadet mission to get enough dorm tickets to get my first S rank

[rotund roost]

Do they give crystals per stage? all of them?

[maiden garden]

I see i see

[shadow gyro]

no crystals i think but there's the ticket if you do all of the bronya one and onwards

[dawn rain]

man I need to start playing Impact 3rd more... (I've mostly been grinding in Star Rail to pull for Elysia 2.0- I mean Cyrene)

[shadow gyro]

hmm i don't think so
but if you already have stuff to do in schicksal then its worth spending time in there and see
but i don't think they affect anything

[sweet flax]

Adventure level is only affected by adventure tasks

[maiden garden]

Ah ill check it out
Btw other than armada and dorm shop are there any other way of dorm tickets?

[sweet flax]

But it resets tasks 3 times a week (15 tasks a week)

[sweet flax]

Weekly box has a chance and armada contribution

[shadow gyro]

there's from the weekly box in the mall but it rotates btwn it and other mats

cadet tasks but u alr mentioned it

[rotund roost]

Will there be an event where it will give 10 battlesuit supply cards? Or is this just impossible without buying anything?

[maiden garden]

Ah i see, I'm tempted to just use my crystals haha
But ig I'll hold, I have waited so long so what's a few weeks

[quick birch]

There will be an event for that but I don't think it's worth going out of your way to spend them for that event

[maiden garden]

The box on Nov 2 i think you can get 15

[quick birch]

You can probably complete it without that quest

[amber finch]

also doesnt just doing the 10 pull with xtals count

damn i wish i had a returnee alt rn

[rotund roost]

Nope it doesn't 😔

[amber finch]

sadge

[rotund roost]

Idk, it's just a freebie since I'm still pulling on Elysia

Wait wat event?

[amber finch]

nov 2 login event, 15 pulls total, you can choose between equip or valk cards

[shadow gyro]

but you should easily cap ur returnee task without doing that mission
just do the other f2p stuff

[amber finch]

dont choose the 3rd option (crystals)

[shadow gyro]

it gives u less yeah

[amber finch]

mega skem smh unless you’re desperate for crystals for the skin banners

[sweet flax]

🤔 good shout

[rotund roost]

Oh, nice. I wonder with all this free stuff if I can still get the Sonque skin since I started 0 with this version

[desert cove]

is there even any benefit to getting hotr from this box

[shadow gyro]

dorm task + er crystals
if you alr own a geared hotr then u can rank her up that's if you use her already

hoh is equal if you don't have her dkey already

[desert cove]

already have hoh dkey, might just go for her rank up

[shadow gyro]

sure thing

[daring oak]

is hoh dkey the Key of Ego or is it her older one idk what it's called

[sweet flax]

Weapons that start with key of __ arent dkeys
P1 herrscher weapons were named that way

Hohe's dkey is called flawless benediction

[daring oak]

ohhhh does flawless benediction mean she can use the astral ring system, is that how that works, meaning she can also be used in p2 thingies

[sweet flax]

Yes because her dkey is a stellar key like hofi and horb

[daring oak]

Ohhh okay okay, im guessing that is much better for her than key of ego? but can key of ego still be usable if I don';t have benediction

[shadow gyro]

key of ego would be her second best option but its useless rn

[sweet flax]

Competitively no
For a beginner its fine, just don't unlock it from your weapon box

[daring oak]

wait, what weapon box was it 😭

[sweet flax]

The one with hohe jk and rc weapons

[daring oak]

ohhhh the supply giveaway thingie 👀

well... 😭 itll be okay... 😭

[shadow gyro]

i don't know about that but its in the beginner manual

[daring oak]

yeaaa the beginner manual has a supply giveaway tab with those three weapons 😭

[shadow gyro]

ah i see

[daring oak]

well.. its a good thing im just casual no mistakes can be made... 😭

[shadow gyro]

can't really say that, some stuff does really help you a lot if don't right
up to you in the end

[rotund roost]

Can she clear the current Elysian?

I still haven't maxed her

[lone crater]

no one has trouble doing er

so yes, she can clear

[rotund roost]

What should I pick for the buffs?

[digital kiln]

Who do i pull in carnival if i have all

[sweet flax]

Any existing ranks?

If not s2 vita is the best

S2 fws/tfm are pretty good for ma strats if thats something youre interested in

More info in the first pin

[lone crater]

u got many options here
can do

[wraith mist]

How can i get him? Hes soooooo cool, i want more dragonss

[shell basin]

Kosma isn’t playable unfortunately, Hoyo is too cowardly to give us guy characters

Otherwise my wallet would be open for a number of them

[sweet flax]

Well then the characters wouldnt be called valkyries would they
Anyways theres Adam!

[shell basin]

Put Kevin in a dress first if you gotta

IG they did that for Su if you think abt it

[wraith mist]

Oh i didnt realize there were no men playable... im sad. Thank you, i will enjoy this story as much as i can while i can see him

[sweet flax]

does he know?

[sweet flax]

Apho's mc is adam

[keen pilot]

apho suckss

[sweet flax]

Yet you still rely on it for adventure tasks crystals

[keen pilot]

lite!

[sweet flax]

It's still apho

[keen pilot]

when does the coralie gorilla suit come back

[shell basin]

You mean Kiana? Same deal as Su, it’s not the same

[shell basin]

3 weeks

[sweet flax]

No i meant kevin in a dress

[shell basin]

I know we’ve had it in events

[keen pilot]

how much is a safe amount to accumulate for a banner

[shell basin]

But that’s also not the same

[shell basin]

Typically you want 30k crystals to ensure valk + weapon. Tho backpulling isn’t advised for meta, if you like her by all means

[keen pilot]

uhh i shouldnt get her for my hle?

i dont have anyone else

just her

[sweet flax]

Gorilla suit...?

[shell basin]

Typically we advise you to save for new releases. Backpulling isn’t crystal efficient though it might make your first few months of abyss more fun admittedly

[sweet flax]

[keen pilot]

yeah the big claw thing

[shell basin]

If you wanted to backpull FDD is the best choice

She’s a dragon

[keen pilot]

i mean if its the optimal strat then im sold

[keen pilot]

close enough gorillas and dragons

[shell basin]

It’s just crystals are scarce enough we tell people to save and only get new releases for meta purposes

[keen pilot]

okay thanks

[keen pilot]

well meanwhile i wait for a new unit who are potential teammates for my hle and should i try to get rc and vbm up?

[daring oak]

who would be good to save for if we have HLE and her weapon, would Seele and her weapon be okay since she is in the carnaval thingie (if we don't mind spending a bit)

[keen pilot]

seele isnt in carnival?

[daring oak]

i meant horb

[sweet flax]

Horb isn't in carnival

[daring oak]

she is in the pack thingie for carnival shop but for those special coin thingies

not the actual pulls but in shop

[sweet flax]

B chips are paid and that bundle is a scam

[shell basin]

The box with her is expensive. It’s your money so it’s your call but I wouldn’t buy it (and indeed I didn’t)

If you do buy it her gear is worth rolling tho

[summer marsh]

So, Need Explanation on this:

All for of them are Blue but only 2 Work??

[upper laurel]

blue just means they are a mech unit right? like its their rock/paper/scissors type.

[frozen crypt]

Teams are not built based on types ( )

Since 7.3 all new valkyries have the Astral Ring mechanic which you can identify via the darker blue square icon in the bottom left of their character preview. You should choose supports with appropriate attributes that support the leader where possible.

!faq ring

[small willow]

Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain!

Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!

Since 7.3, all new Valkyries will use the Astral Ring system. You must charge Astral Ring Intensity (ARI) to max to enter Stellar Outburst. The team leader determines the active Astral Ring Specialization.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

• World Star - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[frozen crypt]

More info on astral ring here

[keen pilot]

can i salvage honkai cubes

[wraith mist]

I saw we are getting a box to choose for hotruth and human ego. Which should i get and whats their best team? Are their best team worth building?

[shell basin]

You could if you need coins but these days I buy bricks with coins so

[shell basin]

HoHE’s best dps team with her dkey is HoHE Thelema and then HLE/Sena/Vita. Shes a little niche these days as a dps, but she can also support most modern battlesuits. HoHE without her dkey is terrible as anything other than a cope

HotR has a handful of teams, like trio, FoV Sparkle HotR, etc but they all require her full gear, ideally S2, and a bunch of battlesuits you probably don’t have

Don’t expect too much from either one

[mint bough]

who should i use for the summoned entities SD if i dont have seeles new gear?

[shell basin]

Reign Solaris. Fish, HLE, Peregrine Sword are all various levels of cope options

Assuming you mean current abyss

[mint bough]

yes

[wraith mist]

The only relevant ones i have are sena, helia base and coralie base. The others domt have weapons or sitgmata i can use

[mint bough]

who is fish and HLE for? sorry im not good at terms

[wraith mist]

Is the dkey the same as hofi? They both use dkeys and i need to wait for the supply to drop?

[shell basin]

Same idea as Hofi’s key but a different dkey

Hofi has waxing and HoHE has flawless benediction

Neither is reccomended pulling unless you like the character or have a lot of crystals tho

[wraith mist]

So i just get an s rank and it stays collecting dust?

[shell basin]

Fish is Sonque, HLE is hi love elf

[shell basin]

Pretty much. If you’re new you’ll use them in memorial arena sometimes?

Technically the meta advice is to save them until you have a use case (like needing the crystals rn) but if you like one of them it’s not a bad decision to get them for collection

[wraith mist]

In arena i use sena for 1 boss, helia for another and coralie for the last. All solo because the others are lvl20

[shell basin]

You could use HoHE as a cope dps and then use Helia to support Senadina, if you wanted to chase higher scores. Or HotR could be a cope support for any of those battlesuits

Since you have so few battlesuits either one will help you in memorial arena

[wraith mist]

If theyre unusable without the dkey i dont think i can build them. I have like 2 or 3 dkeys but idk how they got there. Seems a pretty rare of an item

[shell basin]

HoHE is unusable in abyss without her dkey but you can use her in memorial arena without it

In memorial arena you would want to use HoHE RC JK (or Kira over one of them, if you get her to SS)

Hotr can use either that same team as a dps or can support any lighting / fire battlesuit

[maiden garden]

Is 70-80 rl hard?
Can I manage with 4/4 new ely, helia without weapon and vbm

[keen pilot]

i wan coins

[maiden garden]

Abyss

[shell basin]

Masters RL is a little tough. Assuming you mean paws as Helia probably but you might fail occasionally. If you promote to 81+ abyss you should easily get agony 3 bounce with that

[shadow gyro]

q mani is easy as long as you have a good dps, no matter the type

[shell basin]

Then sure, you can. You might want them later but they’re easy to get more of

[shadow gyro]

you might have issues understanding rotations or the enemies so you can ask us whenever u need help

[keen pilot]

best team i can get for aponia?

[maiden garden]

Also for the rotation with these three is it fine if I don't switch into vbm at all, since I don't have her weapon and she's only S rank rn

I just go helia for 3 ults then switch into ely skill and ult and then switch back into helia and repeat
(Using paws dps since ely stigs aren't lvl'd up)

[shell basin]

Why don’t you have VBM weapon

If you have HLE weapon and don’t have Paws weapon use hLE dps even with low level stigs. If you have both weapons you can use either

[maiden garden]

I see i see
I'll try to lvl up my valks as much as I can then ig

[wraith mist]

Oh i dont really like sushang and calico :( are all the characters i want a dps and dont work well together? Kiana, mei, elysia, himeko, sena and songque

[maiden garden]

Uh idk where to get it

[shadow gyro]

hov, si and unlock ta from the asterite shop if you can
leave rc for hle

[maiden garden]

Also kinda short on mats rn

[shell basin]

They’re the best ice supports but you can use like Sugary starburst or whatever if you really want

[maiden garden]

So probably couldn't craft it if it's in the foundry

[shell basin]

TA is also a pretty good generic support

[shell basin]

Part 2 chapter 1

It’s free

[maiden garden]

Oh I'm still stuck in part 1

[wraith mist]

I will probably do this. Is there a guide to see whats the best gear for her that doesnt require heavy investment? Since she will only be used in arena

[keen pilot]

hle dosent need rc

hle one shots the boss

[cold niche]

Does ps work well in a hle fdd team? Just for free pulls sake or should I aim for badum? Seems like ps has more sue cases?

[shell basin]

Yes. PS and Badum both support HLE

[shadow gyro]

alr thats good to know
do get vbm for her tho, ull need it later

ta is also good in general

[keen pilot]

ya i am farming her didnt play p2 yet so no free also rc does more dmg than hov in that team is that normal

[shell basin]

Give HoHE or HotR dps Peary (should be free from starter manual)

If you don’t have that you can use Scott

[shadow gyro]

hmm no considerng that you have access to hov sig

[keen pilot]

i should clarify she was doing half my hovs dmg in 1/3rd of the time so not the same as i said

ill try later in the week then wiht ta

[shadow gyro]

alr

[keen pilot]

i think 69k is a good score either way all things considered im probably pushing it

[wraith mist]

This is the only bow i have... i dont think it will work. I do have robert peary though

[shadow gyro]

can just leave it as is or give her foundry bow but do not level it past level 35

[wraith mist]

What happens after level 35?

[shadow gyro]

youll waste mats for a minor increase

[storm lantern]

foundry weapons are effectively salvageable for the same price it was to craft them but if you upgrade it you lose mats

[wraith mist]

Ohh i see, thank you. So in arena i have sena+helia, coralie solo and hohe solo?

[shadow gyro]

does sena and hoh have their gear?

mainly wp

[wraith mist]

That sounds good

[wraith mist]

Sena is 4/4, i wasted all my crystals on all her gear and resources to upgrade them. Hohe will have crescent and robert peary (i have nothing better)

[shadow gyro]

ah i see
sena vbs vbm as one team
hoh, rc, jk as another

[upper laurel]

isnt there like a thing going on rn that rewards you for spending money? a topup event?

[keen pilot]

can you roll back waepons?

[shadow gyro]

wdym by roll back?

[shadow gyro]

theres the visa thing iirc

[shell basin]

It’s for spending crystals not money

[shadow gyro]

yeah theres that too

[shell basin]

And then there’s a top up discount for money but it’s not more rewards

Just less money spent

[storm lantern]

assuming you mean backpull if you already have the valk its considerable but otherwise just skip both

[keen pilot]

like gettting back the resources u used to level up a weapon but keeping the weapon

[shadow gyro]

hmm no

[upper laurel]

im not talking about that. I'm talking about a top up event. I thought there was one going on atm

[keen pilot]

sad

[wraith mist]

Yes, my abyss team is that senas team. Is there a way to improve it or should i focus on new teams, like hohe when i get her?

[shell basin]

There is not. There’s a 20% discount on topping up but no top up rewards

[shadow gyro]

u can get a weapon or stigmata for collection points even if u get rid of it tho

[storm lantern]

theres a 20% discount for visa top up but theres no top up event in game

[shadow gyro]

sena since you dont have hoh divine key to use her now

[upper laurel]

when will one be happening next then?

[shell basin]

Unclear

[shadow gyro]

btw are you pulling for hle? the new elysia

[wraith mist]

Idk if i should. I love elysia but i dont like the design, and i really need a physical dps because kallen in the stigmata farming is immune. But people told me shes really good so im not sure

[wraith mist]

I dont even have hohe yet, i need to wait for the box

[shadow gyro]

ah i see, then youll only temporary use hoh

[storm lantern]

mirage farming is doable with farmable valks only so definitely dont skip anyone because they won't help with it

[shadow gyro]

shes pretty good and can support ur sena even tho thats not very relevent but it will help you

[storm lantern]

you dont even need phys floor 6 for anything

[wraith mist]

I dont know what i need from it, i just want to clear it cause its the last one i have left. Everything was bruteforceable with sena but this... yeah immune is immune

[shadow gyro]

its alr u can always do it later

[deep dew]

hi is there a pin for recommended team comps?

[shadow gyro]

are you a beginner or as you asking for p2 team lineups?

[wraith mist]

Is hle bis for sena or is sena bis for hle? I would like to have 3 teams well built (4/4) and stick with them for as long as i can

[deep dew]

lets say im at the level of a beginner cuz im not caught up with new stuffs 💔

just came back and decided to keep my returnee account

[shadow gyro]

the former but not the latter, although not striclty a bis but shes pretty good

[shadow gyro]

ah okay one minuts

[shadow gyro]

#👶beginner-help message for beginner teams
#👶beginner-help message to understand how part 2 work

[upper laurel]

Alright. I've got HLE and her weapon. Thast all the spending im doing. Which means its officially time to spend this stuff yeah?

[wraith mist]

If you were to start the game again from 0, who would you go for? What 3 teams would you build? I feel like i want to build old suits that are cool but not really usable and for the newer ones there are so many idk what to do

[shadow gyro]

you used your dorm pulls and carnival tickets right?

[upper laurel]

yup

[shadow gyro]

yeah then u have nothing else to pull
check the guide in pins to decide

[shadow gyro]

for casual play you can pick whatever you want and you can try to get their gear from foundry/bp/exchange shop
although i would suggest at least having a team with the most recent units rn for when things get hard ir u wanna be competitive
rn obv hle is the pulling goal for those who can afford her and beginners can no problem

[wraith mist]

What does being competitive give you? More rewards? I will probably need to stick to casual play, i dont think i can get everyone with so many supplies at the same time going on plus the gear supplies

[upper laurel]

as for the HLE bow, I just wanna enhance/level it up as far as I can, or to max, yeah?

[shadow gyro]

cconsistent high rewards so you can afford things better

[shadow gyro]

yup

[shadow gyro]

you ideally only try to pull the new valk in the suplly and nothing else, you only use free stuff when its given so it isnt a lot to spend, you just need to stay active if you want to be consistent

[upper laurel]

cant quite get it to 50 yet

[wraith mist]

Is there that high of a difference though? Any link where i can check it?

[shadow gyro]

#👶beginner-help message this is the best i can think of
obv if u dont care about the rewards or youll hardly pull then you can still follow the casual route

[deep dew]

will hohe gear banner come back when shes given out for free?

[wraith mist]

If the difference isnt much i wont, if its a lot... maybe i spend a little every month

[shadow gyro]

no shes too old atp

[shell basin]

I would estimate the difference between F2P player that pursues meta (RL) and someone who knows how to play the game but doesn’t pull modern battlesuits (A1) is about 16-17 pulls a patch? And in between meta performance will get in between scores. So in one sense playing meta won’t pay for itself, since a new battlesuit + weapon is up to 150 pulls a patch, and in the other sense that’s a lot of pulls

It’s your call obviously

Just be aware of what tradeoff you’re making

[sweet flax]

Worth noting unless youre a giga whale, spending is meant to help you reach your pull quota more consistently to try and avoid skipping as much as possible

[last lion]

which of the Carnival pulls are worth bringing to S1?

[shell basin]

Roughly speaking a monthly card (5 bucks a month) is the equivalent of being 2-3 abyss tiers higher

[shell basin]

If you have them all… it depends on your battlesuits but Vita benefits the most from ranks if you have teams that need her

[sweet flax]

Btw a dupe is s2 not s1

[shell basin]

If you have FDD and mostly LoA/GoI battlesuits otoh S2 Vita doesn’t do much

[sweet flax]

Since from s to ss it costs 25 shards per sub rank and you get 50 per dupe

[shell basin]

So it still depends on roster

[digital kiln]

What does s2 vita give

[shell basin]

Extra breach

[sweet flax]

Buffs to ws wod and loa

[last lion]

I have all Part 2 Valks except Lantern and Smol Dudu

[shell basin]

Then I think S2 Vita is probably the larger buff for you

[lyric anvil]

Is S2 Vita even better than FDD in LoA? (Different topic I know-)

[shell basin]

I think it depends on the run? And obviously sometimes you want both

[wraith mist]

Thank you, i will consider it

[hidden cave]

Will peregrine carnival supply come back after these 3 days? I have 16 pity on her weapon but no more crystals, I am scared the pity will go 😢

[quick birch]

The pity between carnival supplies will carry over during different carnival supplies in the same patch, the banners will rotate from vita/ps to sparkle/FWS and banner will rotate in exactly 2 times

For more precise dates check the new tab in game

[shell basin]

There will be a second PS banner in 11 days

[hidden cave]

Phew, alright so after the sparkle/FWS banner, peregrine will come back with the pity?

[shell basin]

Pity will carry over

[hidden cave]

Amen, thank you both!

[lone kindle]

Remember it only carries over between the ones of the same patch

When patch ends next carnival wont get putt carried

So you either want to go all in and get it pr better just use the free pulls

[grave fox]

Hello, who should i pull in the carnival supply? I already have sushang and sparkle but not the other two. Who would benefit more for me? (I also own others like Love Elf, PAWS, and Blastmetal Coralie.)

[shell basin]

Show full P2 battlesuit list? I would guess Badum but it’s possible you have enough WS/WoD to want Vita

[grave fox]

thats all the P2 battlesuits that i have that i mentioned theyre all also 4/4

[shell basin]

Ah then I would definitely get Badum. Badum can support every DPS you have, will be useful in MA, and can help in abyss on supporting HLE in SD weather (and symphony too I suppose but that’s less important)

[grave fox]

thank you very much

[shell basin]

No problem

[keen pilot]

do bridges come back?

[shadow gyro]

old ones might, but theres no way to know when will they be

[keen pilot]

do old bridges usually come back or are there limited ones?

[shadow gyro]

hmm they did come back in 8.1, they costed crystals tho, and one was with bchips

[keen pilot]

oh sorry to ask this but i just wanna know if elysia bridge ever came back?

[shadow gyro]

yeah in 8.1

[keen pilot]

ok thanks

[shadow gyro]

all bridges did

[undone zephyr]

who on the carnival supply do i pull for based on my roster? i checked the pins and the only recommended one was sushang since she was beginner friendly but could i get a conformation before i pull using the free cards?

[storm lantern]

if you want more details there's a pin about carnival pulls but the tldr of the pin is use the pulls on sushang

[shell basin]

Yeah, PS is the best option, Badum is not quite as good, Vita is a significant downgrade, Sparkle would be basically useless for you

[undone zephyr]

alr thanks!

[shadow gyro]

i wouldnt say that about badum, theyre the sameish level all things considered but having ps tp bruteforce hitcount and bleed is better than another sd valk

[shell basin]

Yeah I’d say that’s not quite as good. If you like Badum you won’t miss much by picking her but in expectation Ps will help a little more

[maiden garden]

Are the elfs used

Like how much difference is using the Kiana elf from the spending event box vs the base one or asterite shop one

Since I wanna get her and I think I can do some from here + some from the spending event to get her

Or is it better to save till I have 640 tokens and just buy her like that?

[shell basin]

Kiana elf is way better than Jingwei or Blood embrace but she needs at least 3* (and ideally 4*) to be better than Dreamseeker

As for Herrscher of Flamescion I would save to buy the character ticket

[maiden garden]

And how do you get dreamseekr

[shell basin]

It’s the same cost and this way if you happen to roll flamescion from dorm gacha

Then you can pick someone else

[maiden garden]

S1 Hof 🔥

But yea is she any good in memorial arena
If so what team?

[shell basin]

Either you start with her or very early part 1 story. You can only use her on astral ring teams

[shell basin]

Flamescion is used in a few memorial arena teams because she gives a lot of starting SP

[maiden garden]

I see it does seem the safer option
Since by both methods I'm getting her in about the same time

[shell basin]

So like if you want to instantly ult with someone for a zero second run on an SS boss

You would put flame scion on leader and swap to them

[maiden garden]

Oh the orange girl, yea I have her already

I thought it was someone else 😭

[maiden garden]

Wow

[shell basin]

Dreamseeker is really really good at SS and even better at SSS

[maiden garden]

But as a dps? Is she any good
Since it will be a while before I can get 3 newish teams

[shell basin]

This is why Kiana elf is pretty much the only elf that sees use; Kiana, Project Bunny, and Elysia elf are the only three elves that really have any niche over dreamseeker at all (and it’s still situational for them)

[shell basin]

You won’t use her as a DPS for very long but if you’re just starting out she might be better than your other options

Will depend on the boss

[maiden garden]

My other options are himeko and hov 😭

[shell basin]

She’s probably going to be worse than Valkyrie Blastmetal as a DPS for most content but you can slap her on a boss that needs fire damage. Or use her as a leader for some other elemental battlesuit before you get good supports

[maiden garden]

I see

Makes sense she seems pretty old

[shell basin]

Anyway I would also look into getting Valkyrie Blastmetal from the part 2 story because she’s the best free support unit and one of the best DPS you have available, especially since her signature weapon is free

[maiden garden]

Hope I get hofi from dorm supply would be cool

[maiden garden]

I have her already
Using her in my ely paws team

[shell basin]

And then if you have a lot of asterite you can either work on ranking her up or unlocking other supports like Terminal Aide and Reversist Calico

Ah. Makes sense for abyss, but for memorial arena I would usually split them up because HLE can usually solo a memorial arena boss no problem

[maiden garden]

Ah i already put them together

[shell basin]

And in memorial arena it’s better to have two okay teams than one really good team

Ah no biggie then, you can just try a different method next week

[maiden garden]

Okie
Gonna go ely and paws different halves and see what I can do for the third one

[shell basin]

For early game memorial arena the name of the game is finding two cope teams that can clear the SSS bosses is more important than top scoring either individual one

But ofc that’s only in exalted

If you’re still in masters there’s no SSS boss

[potent hamlet]

what do i do this weather if im too broke to afford horb dkey

[rugged compass]

Sleep

[shell basin]

Reign Solaris

[potent hamlet]

gotta find a way to magically conjure up 60 pulls

[potent hamlet]

also don't have 😔

[shell basin]

Then sleep. Uhh you can try to cope with HLE/PS/Fish

But it’s unlikely to retain

[potent hamlet]

darn

[potent hamlet]

who even is PS wait

[shell basin]

Peregrine Sword

[potent hamlet]

oh wait sus

im going to cope with HLE and see what happens ig

[shell basin]

HLE was surprisingly non painful when I tried it but you’re scoring way worse than Horb and you’d better hope any reign Solaris players skill issue (admittedly entirely possible)

[lyric anvil]

I'm 16 pulls away from her DKey and will likely be able to get it before Tribunal

[potent hamlet]

guess who is 60 away from dkey pity 💀

i've been drained the last few patches

having to get PAWS into BFD into HLE sucks

[shell basin]

I am zero away from dkey but rn it’s being held by my Swallowtail Phantasm

[shell basin]

HLE FDD PS then and cry when ten horbs show up in ur bracket

[lyric anvil]

Oh I did Badum

Guess I can see if PS is better

[potent hamlet]

why'd you evne get it then 😭

just for 10atk?

by that point just pull for HoRb 💀

[shell basin]

Well I was sitting on 45k crystals and wanted to spend them

[shell basin]

I would but she doesnt have a banner rn

So I gotta wait for her to enter reserve works

Cuz I ain’t paying 25 bucks for a horb box lol

[amber sentinel]

Is there any good divine key to chose?
I already have Seven Thunders of Retribution, Fenguang Down and Abyss flower

[shut frigate]

are HoHE HoFi and HoRB's part 2 stigs craftable? I don't plan to get any of em but I'm curious

[shell basin]

Star of Eden Anti Entropy is the best one in the box

[lyric anvil]

Nor will HoRb probably get a banner anymore

[shell basin]

Yes but they’re all dogshit without the dkey

[shut frigate]

ah, even with the stigs the final deciding factor is still the dkey weapon?

[shell basin]

Yeah

[amber sentinel]

Hm I see

[shell basin]

I think Hofi’s are the least bad without dkey

Solon is just worse than Peary or even Scott

[amber sentinel]

I missed her divine key TwT

[shell basin]

I’m missing Flawless Benediction myself

Okay looking at horbs hers is still bad without dkey but not as bad as Solon

[zenith quest]

IF I get paladin BP, do i also get knight bp?? or I have to buy both seperate

[shut frigate]

What kind of teams could I even run here? I got basically nothing to answer 3 bosses

I just need the prism cube

[zenith quest]

and adding on is BP worth it.. ngl it kinda expensive i kinda just want it for the banner and thelma’s gear

[lyric anvil]

Not even gonna care to nab Flawless Benediction and Waxing Moon

[shell basin]

If you get Paladin BP knight is included

[zenith quest]

ahh i see okok thanks

[shell basin]

I think knight is pretty good value but I don’t buy Paladin

[zenith quest]

hmmm okok i just want the cute little heart ribbon thing hahaha

[shell basin]

Ah yeah if you want that then sure

[lyric anvil]

That does require Paladin

[shell basin]

And the extra krystallum is nice

But it doesn’t have crystals so I pass on it 😓

[zenith quest]

ahh so expensive $30.. do I get any extra things for getting bp now or i might aswell get at the end

ohh… i get the weekly reward stuff aaaa so hard decision

[lyric anvil]

Monthly+Knight is more worth it

[zenith quest]

omg i forgot abt monthly completely..

i used to lowkey whale on this game and i’m getting back in for ely hahaha how does the monthly work??

[shut frigate]

should I just give in and throw in fdd and hle and farm the 1st boss until i get all the clear rewards?

[shell basin]

HLE on meteoroid, and then probably FDD VBM VBS on Aponia in training mode. It’s a little scuffed but probably can work? And then HoV/SI on Kallen because they’re your only usable physical battlesuits

[shut frigate]

Ohh

[shell basin]

HLE team should be HLE RC JK

[lyric anvil]

They're gonna have to throw a random with HLE

Or that

[shell basin]

Make sure that the FDD team can clear, it ought to do it just fine but I haven’t tested it since I have Shushang

HLE should have no problem with her one

[lyric anvil]

Kallen and Apo in the same MA cycle

[shell basin]

Probs worth trying in practice mode. If not I try some stuff to see if I can make smth work but I would bet it works with buff mode at least enough for crystals and probably works without

[zenith quest]

which supports should i use for sushangbin elysian realm?

[shell basin]

I’m terrible at the rotation but I’ve been using TA RC Senti for it and getting like 29k

[lyric anvil]

Kallen?

[shell basin]

Snowy Sniper is one of them iirc

[shell basin]

Ye

And then you want whichever Himeko drops your Hp for big buffs

[zenith quest]

🙏🙏

[shut frigate]

should I do it? helia got no sources to obtain her sig

[shell basin]

Just answered this

[shell basin]

I would prioritize other uses of AE imaginions but if you don’t need Honkai shards for anything sure

Don’t upgrade it tho

[shut frigate]

alr

[zenith quest]

ahh sorry i thought u were answering other person ok tysm woohoo

[shut frigate]

I'll hold off crafting the bow for the moment

[lyric anvil]

Tbh if I got HoRb DKey (probably not this week)
I was gonna do:
HLE, FDD, Badum
PS, PAWS, VBm
HoRb, VBs

[shell basin]

Does your P1 horb have gear

[lyric anvil]

Missing her B Stig

And that be it

[shell basin]

I don’t know how that stacks up to Aristophanes but you could use her + TA + Senti with nebs prolly

Should outscore me lol

[shut frigate]

am I losing out on much if I dont have JK's sig? I used the starter weapon selector for RC

[lyric anvil]

Oh- um speaking of Nebulous- I may have salvaged it to level up my HoRb's weapon when I was starting out-

[shell basin]

If you have Nebs for her it’s fine

If you don’t have Nebs it’s rough

[shell basin]

💀

[lyric anvil]

Yeah me was dumb

[shell basin]

Dunno if senti is still the answer then

Maybe you use Rc idk

[abstract sequoia]

screenshot snippet from the "Cost-effective Whaling" guide in the pins

[shell basin]

But P1 Horb + TA shield break

[shut frigate]

What's nebs again....

[shell basin]

Should work fine-ish

[abstract sequoia]

nebulous duality

[shell basin]

Nebulous Duality, AE’s sig

It works on Jade knight

Since she needs SP

[lyric anvil]

RC doesn't have her signature, nor was that an option for me since HoV signature was in the box

[shell basin]

RC is still a TDM support even without her sig

[lyric anvil]

True

[shut frigate]

Where do you get nebs from?

[shell basin]

I don’t actually remember, I thought it was either starter manual or some starter event?

Look to see if you have it under your fist weapons

[abstract sequoia]

it's a growth regimen bonus

[shell basin]

Ah there you go

[shut frigate]

OKAY IM STUPID I didn't read the names properly I do have it thankfully

[shell basin]

There you go. Then yeah HLE JK RC

You could also use Sugary Starburst in that team but it takes SS for her to be good so it’s super expensive in Asterite

I’m 3 patches in and I only just got her to SS

[lyric anvil]

Does take time to rank up the a ranks

[shell basin]

You can get 50 a week only and I also needed asterite for a lot of things

Like pri arm mats and VBM syncs

[lyric anvil]

I have plenty of torus, mostly the metals I run out of

[shell basin]

Same

[coral dew]

i bought the entire bringer of life set but i still dont have the emblem for some reason

[odd plume]

go to stigmata tab

in collection

[slim blaze]

15 cards waiting for you!!!!

I need to clutch

[lyric anvil]

15 what

[slim blaze]

Anniversary login duh

[lyric anvil]

When's this-?

[coral dew]

thanks

[lyric anvil]

Oh

The temptation to just use the boxes for HoRb DKey

[odd plume]

what is the issue? no horb?

[shell basin]

no riley has horb

[lyric anvil]

I have HoRb

I have no weapon

Or well I have her P1 weapon

[shell basin]

then it sounds like early november you'll be getting her dkey

[odd plume]

then get the card for that

[coral dew]

by the way i saw a few people here say that 8.6 is a save patch what do you guys think?

[lyric anvil]

Yatta

[shell basin]

We have no idea what battlesuit is dropping in 8.6

[keen pilot]

whats a save patch

[slim blaze]

I say you wait for 8.6 news in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

Its too early

[odd plume]

we know nothing about 8.6
but 8.7 is CNY so you may want to save regardless

[slim blaze]

Not even v2

[coral dew]

got it

[slim blaze]

A patch where you skip

No rolls

[keen pilot]

why

[slim blaze]

Because the next patch has great expected rewards

[keen pilot]

mok

[slim blaze]

Or the current patch valk sucks

Like lamp patch!!! Or qua valks in p1!!!

[odd plume]

usually mean the new valk isn't worth it or next patch is much better

[slim blaze]

Ehem.VV

Also the Potential man memes

[terse blaze]

For me, any patch that doesnt have a spending event

[slim blaze]

Spending events are a bonus. Not a goal

Like this patch for example

A bit meh on the rewards

[terse blaze]

Very rewarding bonus though
Free S2 Thelema

[lyric anvil]

Also

[odd plume]

underwhelming really, rarely used

unless she get dkey soon

[coral dew]

how many freebies did we get on the previous CNY? i remember that it was quite a lot

[lyric anvil]

Part 2 getting DKey

[odd plume]

very similar to this patch iirc

[lyric anvil]

Considering that's glblul Anniversary also, quite a lot also

[coral dew]

nice!

[lyric anvil]

Some people thought I started in 8.1

[slim blaze]

Not worth the amount of rolls

[slim blaze]

Its called hohe dkey

[slim blaze]

Iirc you started in 2017

[lyric anvil]

I'm not that old wtf

[sweet flax]

Damn what a fossil

[lyric anvil]

[coral dew]

what is Horbs(dkey) best team? badum and Vita?

[sweet flax]

For this abyss vita + badum/hle yes

[lyric anvil]

Only two cycles HoRb is used for DPS

[sweet flax]

Wdym new resonance weather cope option unlocked

[lyric anvil]

[sweet flax]

Surely resonance weather will rerun more now

:clueless:

[lyric anvil]

We'll have to see

But if reso guaymas does rerun again that's who I'm definitely using

[red ember]

who do i focus on first im too overwhelmed

[odd plume]

HLE > PS > LP

asume you have or is getting HLE gear

[shut frigate]

what kind of god did you pray to to achieve this

[keen pilot]

my exact question

[red ember]

I JUST RETTURNED AND I KEPT GETTING THEM IN THE FIRST 10 PULLS IDK

[shut frigate]

ah, classic returner's luck

[keen pilot]

….

[red ember]

huh what does any of this mean im sosoryy

[odd plume]

oh returnee, will have a hard time upgrading them

[shut frigate]

Hi Love Elf > Peregrine Sword > Lone Planetfarer

[trail shore]

I returned last patch and didnt get this luck

[odd plume]

can check glossary link in the pin, we usually use abbreviations here

[keen pilot]

he stole it all

[trail shore]

Funny enough i had 10 pulls till guaranteed (wasnt in this game for close to to years) on Coralie but didnt get her untill the last pull with tickets

[lapis lichen]

Hiya, so I just got all of the new elysia's stigmatas and I was wondering if I should use a stigmata LV up coupon on one of them and if so which one

[odd plume]

doesn't matter, just use it on unupgraded one

[lapis lichen]

ah ok thanks

[zenith quest]

is soft pity hard pity a thing?? bc i remember before it was just you get the s rank on 100 pulls and anything else was early but idk how part 2 works

[odd plume]

but if you are min-maxing, i guess you better use it on T or B

just save some lvup material

[odd plume]

hard pity is still there, you can see the number on the banner

[zenith quest]

but that’s it? there’s no like soft pity’s or anything it’s just hard pity

[sweet flax]

There never was a soft pity, only a speculated one from data collection

Same applies to p2

[odd plume]

no official statement for soft pity, but player study suggest that there is soft pity for character banner at around 7x pull

[zenith quest]

oh.. bleh ok welp

unrelated are we getting the pink ely bridge in th anniversary shop thing like we did last year? I missed out on it grrr

[odd plume]

but even if soft pity is real, it's very soft, hitting hard pity isnt very rare

[dry python]

There's also no official statement for genshin or star rail soft pity btw so like idk why we have to clarify that there's no official statement

Seems kinda redundant

[zenith quest]

for genshin there is?

and starrail it’s all in the percentage stuff

[odd plume]

tbf, idk much about other game official statement

[dry python]

All hsr says is that it's cumulative 1.6% including guarantee btw as in, yk, the actual 90 pull hard pity drop

[sweet flax]

Honestly if it means people stop pulling because "Oh ill hit soft pity" id rather hoyo just say it doesn't exist atp, at least for hi3

[frozen crypt]

yeah using 'soft pity' to justify any pulling in this game is really dumb

[dry python]

Genshin doesn't have any official statement either btw I just checked

[sweet flax]

None of the hoyo games do

[dry python]

Yeah not sure why that guy thought so

[sweet flax]

Actually the only game I've seen have it mentioned clearly was some piss random mobile game

[keen pilot]

popularized by the community

[sweet flax]

Unfortunately when a group of people accidentally confirm something inaccurate due to rng mismatch and spread the news like wildfire

Shit like this becomes popular belief, that literally no gacha game can release without people asking about a soft pity before it even came out lol

[keen pilot]

hmmm i agree

[sweet flax]

Anyways my rant is getting off topic

I just find the situation annoying

[keen pilot]

this is beginner help pls stick to helping beginners such as me!!😭

[sweet flax]

Ofc

[keen pilot]

when do i hit soft pity on hle?

[sweet flax]

Wheres ai chan

[keen pilot]

would u rather get badum or coralie dragon or save for 8.6

[ancient needle]

76+

[sweet flax]

Depends on your account + current crystal savings

If you mean badum from carnival no reason not to try with the free pulls

[dry python]

community is the furthest thing from official what

[keen pilot]

i have 2.8k gems enough to pull her ten times in a row should i go for it

[sweet flax]

No dont pull on carnival if you csnt garuntee it becomes sunk cost

[keen pilot]

what i meant is the concept of soft pity is popularized by the players and thats why he likely thought it existed

[keen pilot]

so coralie?

[sweet flax]

What units do you even have

[keen pilot]

hle

[sweet flax]

That's it?

[keen pilot]

i started 4 days ago

[sweet flax]

Ah ok

Sorry phone doesn't show new player tags

[dry python]

fair enough

[sweet flax]

Did you already use your free carnival pulls

[keen pilot]

can u see my profile and the captain level and stuff on mobile?

[keen pilot]

ya

[latent hatch]

Hi! I’m struggling a bit to navigate the pins on mobile, was there a “is she good” post about HoRb dk? Is she really meta relevant and worth spending for the carnival box?

[sweet flax]

id preferably save until 8.6
You can try to pull for fdd since its a beginner account theres less of a downside to it especially considering fdd is a breach

[sweet flax]

Ye but im almost home so I didnt bother lol

[ancient needle]

She's niche, but still has uses

Whether she's worth getting from the box depends on how valuable your money is to you

You can compare how many crystals you can get for this money too

!faq whaling

[keen pilot]

nicee

[small willow]

Cost-effective Spending

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the cost-effective whaling guide!

Short answer:

1. Level Rush and very high value B-Chip Bundles.
2. Monthly Card.
3. Level bundles (will expire if left too long).
4. Knight BP.
5. Crystal top-up with 2x bonus.
6. B-Chip packs (find highest Crystal:B-Chip ratio)
7. Paladin BP.
8. Crystal top-up without 2x bonus.

[sweet flax]

The carnival box is pure garbage in terms of value for your bchips
While horb dkey gave horb a bit of resurgence its not gonna mean much if you dont have the units to support her or other units needed in general to progress through abyss

[ancient needle]

How useful she'll be to you also depends on which valks you alr have

For example, if you're very new having a proper Symbiosis support will be very nice

[latent hatch]

She is worth 3 patches of paladin access, which is my upper spending limit. And bp seems to give kinda good rewards haha

[sweet flax]

3 patches of paladin? More like 1 and a half where'd you get 3 lol

[ancient needle]

Confusing with Knight maybe?

[sweet flax]

Probs

[latent hatch]

Oh yeah mistyped definitely thinking of knight

I have most new valks, missing sonque sparkle and lantern only if I’m not too unlucky when rolling badum

[sweet flax]

To be honest if thats your spending limit id rather get monthly card + Knight bp

Getting horb on her own doesn't garuntee you the crystals needed to garuntee her dkey which would make her purchase worse

[sweet flax]

Oh you have fdd and paws?

[ancient needle]

I hope you mean free pulls when you're talking about Badum

Cuz getting her normally isn't worth atp

[ancient needle]

Even if you do commit to Badum you need to be able to hard pity cuz of how the banner works

[latent hatch]

I was thinking of using badum pity or badum luck + HoRb dk to get thelema from carnival

[sweet flax]

How many crystals do you have rn

[ancient needle]

Did you alr get HLE + weap?

[latent hatch]

30k

Yeah i was super lucky on elisia gor her for free

[sweet flax]

And her weapon? Nice

Otherwise go pull her weapon

[latent hatch]

Yeah i got the wep also pretty fast

[sweet flax]

Anyways the horb bundle depends on you, as teammate mentioned you know your spending budget better than anyone else

Be mindful that its overpriced and terrible value
And if you have any plans to progress through nirv horb would need ranks to compete properly

The dkey is always a nice account stat boost though if you do get horb

[ancient needle]

Well, I don't think going for Thele is a good idea in your case, you've gotta have funds for 8.6 and 8.7 as well

Keep in mind that 8.7 should be CNY, which means it'll be expensive as well

[sweet flax]

Huh

Can I get a fucking break from pulling

[ancient needle]

A break in 2025-2026?

[latent hatch]

Mhh i see thanks

[sweet flax]

Remember the great skip of 7.9 and 8.0

[latent hatch]

I kinda wanted to catch up on the old valks i missed , but i guess that’s not how this game works even with a bit of spending 😅

[quick birch]

A break in the 9 week patch economy ainoway

[ancient needle]

Sparkle turned out to be not that skippable

[sweet flax]

Brack

[quick birch]

Shudup

[sweet flax]

Well when she released she was

Even though I pulled

[sweet flax]

Lyt

[deep dew]

is it worth getting jade knight from the shop to go with HLE if I dont have her other p2 synergies?

[odd plume]

it's worth to get her, only cost 1 coupon anyway
whether you should use her in HLE team is a different story, RC seem to be more preferable, check budget build and rot in the pin

[quick birch]

JK is a solid option if you want some other support for MA, if your team is Hle + Vbm you'd want RC over JK especially when RC is S rank, reason being that JK's buff uptimes are a bit too short for HLE and she has some pretty huge SP issues the longer the fight gets

[analog root]

should i immediately break through even though i only currently have HLF?

[ancient needle]

!faq breakthrough

[small willow]

Breakthrough

Hello, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for more information regarding Breaking through to Exalted (Captain Level 81+).

Short Answer:

• It is highly recommended to break through for better rewards, but be aware that it is irreversible!

Also see !faq superstring regarding Exalted Abyss

[upper oracle]

So I got ps with my first 10 pull ticket, do I use my 2nd on her weapon or on Kiana or smth?

[lone crater]

only usable on valk

[upper oracle]

Oh

Kiana it is

What's a copium weapon/stig option for her as hle support?

[quick birch]

Stigmata is just her signature Stigmata since they're craftable for weapon your highest atk gloves or just the normal weapon

[ancient needle]

Stigs are necessary for supporting

[quick birch]

Don't go out of your way to upgrade the Stigmata too much if you're lacking prisms though

[ancient needle]

They have supporting buffs on them (on 3pc to be exact)

[upper oracle]

Ah ok

[upper oracle]

Does upgrading them not do much

[quick birch]

It upgrades the Stigmata effects and stats yes, the stats don't effect her support role that much though let me check what the Stigmata effects are rq

[upper oracle]

Ah okok

[quick birch]

There are some supportive buffs on all of her stigs though I doubt they'll have a crazy impact on her supportive capabilities

You can upgrade the stigs just make sure you'll have enough for the 8.6 valk by the end of the patch ( 25 prisms in the worst case scenario )

[quick birch]

It'll still be noticeable ofc

[lilac reef]

Shouldnt the 0 cost buff be good for HLE?

[bleak garnet]

should I pull for lone planetfarer or Li sushang in the carnival supply?

oh nvm I found some old messages

li sushang right?

[silver patio]

I mean send ur roster

[lone crater]

should be, prob overlooked it, not that it matters

[lilac reef]

ok yeah thought so

[ancient canopy]

hie! i just got the event divine key selector and i dont have any of them, can anyone help me to decide which one i should pick?

[ancient needle]

SoE:AE is the only one not available in Reserve Works, get that one

None of them are useful as actual weapons

[bleak garnet]

I have Hi love elf and lunar vow, and the rest of my valks are really old

[low ridge]

I really want to get this astral op for my hle and I didn’t see it had 3 days left and here’s my story progress do y’all think I can get it if I farm I have done all my weekly and daily stuff

[bleak garnet]

I just came back recently

[silver patio]

Ah then yes ps

[bleak garnet]

alright thank you!!!

[silver patio]

Not recommended get that ONLY if you’re a whale or wanna stay in nirvana

[low ridge]

Wdym

[ancient needle]

Probably not
Also keep in mind that getting AstralOps is not recommended for new players at all

[low ridge]

Oh

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-gif-22596911

[ancient needle]

Also also, Chenxue really wants SS if you do consider her

S Chenxue ain't good

[silver patio]

Oh and he already did pulls

[ancient needle]

18 is not too many + it'll carry over

[low ridge]

I am doing it for the spending event too

[ancient needle]

Well, the spending event isn't good either unfortunately xdd

[silver patio]

Naur..

[silver patio]

Better try to get the points in dorm supply USING TICKETS.

[ancient needle]

Thelema won't do anything without her weapon

[ancient needle]

With Dorm tickets! Not crystals

[low ridge]

Can’t i get that from battle pass

[ancient needle]

You can

[silver patio]

Oop forgot to put that will add it now mb

[ancient needle]

Also that's only 50 of the currency in total

[ancient needle]

It doesn't actually affect how many crystals you need to spend to get Thele

[low ridge]

Here’s my valks

[silver patio]

Yes but its paid

[low ridge]

They all have there weapons

Who should I pull for

[silver patio]

I mean its required

[ancient needle]

No HoRb I assume?

[low ridge]

Ik just saying

[silver patio]

new character next patch

[low ridge]

Who’s that

[silver patio]

We dont know

[ancient needle]

We don't know yet

[low ridge]

Oh

[ancient needle]

If you do have her, you can get her new weapon

Otherwise full save, yes

Thelema won't benefit you much

[silver patio]

Forgot to ask are you a whale? F2p? Dolphin?

[languid beacon]

Is there any ranking on which hero to pull for the carnival? In my account's case, I don't have badum/peregrinne. They're missing on my account. So, which among the two would preferably i should have?

[ancient needle]

Did you get HLE + weap?

[low ridge]

What’s a dolphin

[languid beacon]

of course of course, I have her already. ~

[silver patio]

Have you pulled using the free pulls in carnival

[silver patio]

Minimal spender

[ancient needle]

Someone who spends, but not too much

[ancient needle]

That's what chris is asking about

[languid beacon]

Yep yep, I am using the free pulls ofcourse.

[silver patio]

Oh i didnt read it LAMO I SAW HERO ONLY

[ancient needle]

iirc you have LV? cmiiw

[silver patio]

Send roster?

[low ridge]

A dolphin but I did spend like 60 dollars so I did go all out for hle but I probably will not be spending that much again in a long time

[ancient needle]

And do you have her team comp and Vita + FDD/HoFi

Or yeah, you can just send your valks

[languid beacon]

Yep, wait a sec-

[silver patio]

I mean if you can spend right now to get chenxue sure, but if you cant spend just dont pull anyone else in this patch

[languid beacon]

Who's LV btw? I only know Lunar Vow- Welp- XD ~

[ancient needle]

I'd rather they spend the money on HoRb + dkey than on CX

Although

Well, the dkey should be better long-term

[low ridge]

That guy said that she’s bad if not ss

[silver patio]

Ah yes but they really whanted cx for hle

[silver patio]

Still better than ds 22+4 edmg 4 total dmg though still bad and you shouldnt get it

[languid beacon]

Here here- ~

[silver patio]

Thought u said u didnt have peregrine

[low ridge]

So should I just wait for a different astral op

Or do all of them need ss

[ancient needle]

Yes (though with your investment level it'll probably be not worth getting them either)

[ancient needle]

Not all, but like half

!faq astralop

[small willow]

Should I Pull AstralOps?

NOO CAPTAIN!

If you are a f2p meta player, you should not pull gacha AstralOps - only players who are retaining or trying to retain Nirvana should consider it if they have the funds (unlikely for f2p players).

Reasons:

• Dreamseeker is good enough despite being free.
• Too expensive, especially if they need SS (~20-30k).
  • AstralOps have the same cost as a gacha weapon, therefore pulling one may result in being unable to afford a Valkyrie's weapon down the line (for meta players, this means skipping said Valkyrie entirely).
• The damage and score increase they provide in Redlotus and below is often minimal and not needed to retain.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[silver patio]

Yes but only pull if your willing to spend or have enough

[languid beacon]

Oh woops, caught-

For clarification then, I pulled my first free 10 on her, no gears though- Though yeah, the question remain, if I made the right decision to pull on peregrinne, and if i should pull their weaps, given my roster, instead of badum's stuff. ~

[ancient needle]

Well, you can't use the free pulls on gear

[silver patio]

Try to get badum from the free ten pull dont get their weapon, ONLY if you have funds, can guarantee, has emergency funds for next patch

[languid beacon]

So then, it means, badum > peregrinne, in my account?

[ancient needle]

If you're a competitive player, S2 Vita will probably be more beneficial, but otherwise try to get Badum

Weapless Badum won't do much in Nirv xdd

[silver patio]

Having more characters is usually better than ranks

[languid beacon]

ahh- then, i wasted my free 10 pulls then on peregrinne. I should used my luck on Badum instead- HAHAH-

[silver patio]

Ok wait

Ah nvm

Getting ps is okay

[languid beacon]

One of my logic why i chose to pull on Peregrinne is i don't have sufficient LoA character- Oh, Badum is also LoA, i forgor- smh my head-

but i just think i have many SD characters that can perform well on SD weathers, so that's that-

[silver patio]

Thats true lol

[languid beacon]

Also, I have HLE , which is also pog champ on SD weathers, for sure-

[silver patio]

Hey atleast ps can support hle-

[languid beacon]

my HLE team is HLE-Drag Coralie-New Helia, as of the moment.

[silver patio]

Does new helia have weap

[languid beacon]

yep yep, she's geared. she's my first Grail Character-

[silver patio]

You’re good then

[languid beacon]

I kinda run copium New Helia before- like, New Helia-HoHe Dkey-Small Dudu.

In anyways, so, i guess, the final consensus on my question is, try pulling Peregrinne complete gears, based on this discussion, seems fine to do? Right right?

[sweet flax]

did you already mention your crystal count?

[languid beacon]

9626. But i think i can have sufficient crystals on 2nd rerun on PS Carnival Banner? You think?

[sweet flax]

tough to say, you'd have enough to garuntee thanks to anni rewards and assuming you are rl in abyss but you would be denying yourself the chance at next patch

[languid beacon]

Next Patch is next year, right? Like New Year? Or i am tripping?

[sweet flax]

next patch is a regular patch, the patch after it 8.7 is cny (or at least should be cny)

cny valks have a history of being very strong

[silver patio]

?!

[silver patio]

I wonder if i can get 8.6 and 8.7 valk lol

[sweet flax]

depends on a lot of factors, one time crystals left, abyss ranking, are you keeping up with events and weekly objectives
also your current crystal count and luck plays a huge factor

[silver patio]

Whyd we come to this

[sweet flax]

well I guess we are getting sidetracked, my 2 cents on it is, ps is pretty strong with her weapon, and will be great for covering niches with no other viable solution available such as bleed and hitcount

if you have no plans on pulling next patch, as in you are going to be saving, I would consider ps weapon if you have the funds to garuntee it on the next cycle (dont pull before you can garuntee it)

its not a necessary investment, but not necessarily a terrible one considering the state of your account

[silver patio]

Ah i can do this ill just ask yall what to do lol

[languid beacon]

ayt ayt, thanks on the insights guys- Would think it a little bit then, and see what would my crystal count would be- ~

[sweet flax]

honestly see how you do in the upcomming vill-v bleed weather

it should give you a very accurate comparison to how impactful the weapon would be on your account

[silver patio]

skipping out on new potential support for hle next patch if you do pull

[sweet flax]

keep in mind as we move further from ps release, weathers like these become less frequent

so while the weapon might feel overwhelming, it can also end up being a once a patch necessity

[silver patio]

Im not ready for hle powercreep

Ok 12am time to sleep good night yall have a great day/night we getting all the new valks+weapom in one ten pull trust

[slim blaze]

er actually it's the start of a new day better wake up

[limpid tendon]

why cant i progress in elysia realm...

[limpid tendon]

where is it cuz i know literally nothing about this game mode

[haughty elbow]

probably one of these 2

[odd plume]

either the tubes or the screen near the globe

[steep lance]

Hey guys how much can someone earn contribution for the armada per day ? I thought it was a 160 with the daily tasks and stuff

[steep lance]

Was talking about that 😔 i thought it was 160 per day so for tuesday the max was 320 but someone has 360

[prisma oyster]

what should i get here?

[inner hawk]

should i pick ae from the free starter egg or the memorial arena shard things? also what weapon should i get from the free starter weapon box

[lunar patrol]

go for the character you like the most

[prisma oyster]

even if its p1 valks?

[glad ice]

the ! say complete BP missions

[lunar patrol]

ig because the characters in shop aren't meta but if you don't want go get the important materials then

[glad ice]

we used to go for elf box in spending shop

but this need some update/change for p2

[prisma oyster]

yeah i remember that

i was considering mats but just making sure

[glad ice]

about the egg u should go for the valks who is both in ER and has Stress test

to maximize "reward"

[odd plume]

check the pin

[slim blaze]

kiaelf supremacy

[prisma oyster]

i currently want to max out fdd and paws weapon both 60 do u think its more worth it if i get torus

[slim blaze]

sidegrade is sidegrade

[odd plume]

no

[slim blaze]

torus is farmable

and you get tons of it by rolling now

[prisma oyster]

kia elf then

[odd plume]

we are getting a lot of box for material

[prisma oyster]

is kia elf better than ds then?

[spiral badge]

it depends entirely on the fight and what you need

dreamseeker has higher starting astral ring energy, and also higher non outburst damage, but less outburst damage for fire and lightning compared to kiana

do you need to outburst right away? consider DS
can you wait and is a majority of the fight's damage from the outburst with a fire/lightning dps? consider kiana

[prisma oyster]

ahh alright tq tq

[spiral badge]

i forgot to say this assumes kiana elf at 3*

so if you can't reach that immediately, leave any elf boxes you buy alone in case anything changes in the future

[odd plume]

i have kiana elf 3* but very rare that i use her, usually need the dmg outside of SO more to kill the first phase

[spiral badge]

yeah that's very valid. i also have kiana at 3* and i feel i use her a good deal over DS until very recently

it just really depends on very fine factors on your account and how proportional it is to the scenario

[odd plume]

true

[thorn ember]

what do invite codes do?

[odd plume]

a new or returnee player get some crystal from it and a set of mission for some material
after they complete those mission, the person that you get the code from get some crystal too

[thorn ember]

ooh, want to give me your code? I just returned, so dont see why i would miss out one some xtals >:)

[odd plume]

server diff

can check #invite-links-here for code from your server

[thorn ember]

aaah thanks!

[dull schooner]

y'all quick question, in the ER, how are the signet from Vill-V, Griseo and Mobius called? I mean, like signet of (insert name), i was following a guide from the ds server's ER section but idk how the signet are called, there's only the character's name

[lone crater]

Vill-V is helix, Griseo is Stars, Mobius is Infinity

[dull schooner]

thank you!

[lone crater]

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Elysian_Realm/Signets
ctrl f the name of the char

[dull schooner]

good to know, ty!

[cold niche]

does carnival pity carry over when it switches, i just wanna do a 10 pull on ps and then one on fws

[odd plume]

yes, but only within carnival banner of this patch, will be gone after the patch end

[cold niche]

ok, im not plannign on doing more than the free pulls lmao so it shouldn't matter much but just checking

[simple bobcat]

does horb only support WS and GoI or does she have one of those “locked” astral ring skills

[proper sleet]

Is sugary starbust and Cosmic expression still good?

[odd plume]

no one has locked tag for now

[odd plume]

nope, are you picking one from first top up bonus?

[proper sleet]

I exchanged asterites for them last week lol

I read it somewhere they were good 🤷‍♂️

They must be out of meta ig

[odd plume]

ah, they have no used but nothing wrong with unlocking them for ER
tho you may want to focus on other important valk first

check asterite guide in the pin

[eternal pond]

My cousin hasn't played sense 2023, their account isn't like, in the shadow realm right

[serene crystal]

For abyss it probably is since that is before P2 and basically everything at this point requires P2 valks and they don't play well with P1 valks so their valks probably has no use case above Agony 1-2.

[eternal pond]

I mean like, if they tried playing again they'd still have their account

Also hope they add chainsaw lady to free shop soon

I've had her outfit from a few updates ago for so long from when you had to spend 30k

[ancient needle]

That's not gonna be soon at all

[eternal pond]

Just sucks having her skin and not her

[ancient needle]

If you meant Reserve BP, the latest stuff there is from 6.4, while LV came out in 7.0

[eternal pond]

Also hope my cousin still has their acc

[ancient needle]

If you meant War Treasury, it's even worse xdd

LV could become free through other means though

[eternal pond]

They havnt played sense 2023 so they never did that age verification thing yet

[ancient needle]

Like a spending event

[eternal pond]

Spending events..

[tall flax]

not bad

[tall flax]

LF> team setup

[slim blaze]

smh not less than 1:30

[frozen crypt]

what is hoyo gonna do when they run out of bosses to recolour in pink

[amber finch]

purple and white

should last them atleast another year or two

[frozen crypt]

new type 'cosmic'

[amber finch]

after that they can just reshade the pink

[frozen crypt]

oh this is beginner help, that's not a real thing btw any lurkers

[glad ice]

then they use black color

[slim blaze]

void type

[frozen crypt]

[hearty folio]

[fading estuary]

How to get source prism, fast as hell😭🙏

[shell basin]

Part 2 story, voyage logs both have some. You can get them from salvaging spare parts 2 stigmas. There’s some more in event shops, and also a level 50 ticket that’s the equivalent of 7

Mostly they’re a limited resource tho

[fading estuary]

Ohhhhh, i forgot i have the lvl 50 ticket, thank you so much sir!

[shell basin]

No problem

[mossy lotus]

What dk should i get from current box as a new player? Or can I just take any?

[storm lantern]

soe:ae is the only one unobtainable from other means

[lapis lichen]

hi, i was wondering how i can get a sensei? i want to get the rewards but im not sure how to do it

[quick birch]

either get a random one from the game or get one from the DC here

[storm lantern]

add someone in #eu-cadet-recruit or ask someone you like if they have slots and request to be their cadet

[quick birch]

i have a spot available atm if that's fine for you

[lapis lichen]

yeah that would be fine with me

[quick birch]

nice what's your UID ?

[lapis lichen]

209209297

[quick birch]

you should have received a cadet recruitment request from me

ah nice it worked

[lapis lichen]

thanks so much ❤️

[storm lantern]

where are the na people asking for sensei

[quick birch]

could've stopped the sentence at where are the na people

[storm lantern]

real

[lapis lichen]

also the starter manual is telling me to level up my astral op to 30, should i do it or should i wait a little?

[storm lantern]

ds is good you should level her to 30

[quick birch]

you'll use dreamseeker a lot so go ahead and level her

[storm lantern]

that's the level she needs to max her buff skills and more than that is probably a bit expensive for new players

[lapis lichen]

ah ok thats good ill try getting her to 30 then

[rough bramble]

So I rolled on sushang because she's the only one i don't have, and i got lucky with an S2.
I have 29k crystals, is there any point in rolling for her stigmatas? I have the old box so I would need 2

[analog root]

are there any guides for divine keys?

[desert beacon]

who should i prioritize? does helia need her weapon or is there an alternative? i got all of helia's stigmatas and whatnot but not her weapon. for vita and sparkle i have their weapon and stigmatas.

[storm lantern]

definitely dont roll for stigmata the banner pity doesn't carry over, if you want to get weapon i wouldn't but it gives a decent amount of buffs as support and her niche will probably continue to be occupied by her for a long time

[rough bramble]

should i just use random stigs and weapons then?

[storm lantern]

no you craft her sig

[shell basin]

Helia needs her weapon to DPS but can support okay without it. Prioritize her since she’ll be supporting new releases tho it’s awkward because your older battlesuits are the ones that have a full team

[rough bramble]

oh yeah that's a thing, thank you. But random weapon though?

[storm lantern]

i guess use gtx, i dont think any of them really do anything

or any high atk gloves you have

[rough bramble]

thank you

[storm lantern]

she's not viable as a dps at all without her weapon though you'd be better off using her as a support on bleed weathers

[desert beacon]

sigh unfortunately i made the mistake of pulling for who i like.. do the stigmata affixes matter a lot?

[shell basin]

Grips of Tai Xuan give a bit of self damage and you’ll want to get them to level 50 so if you don’t have any other gloves that would be the cope I give PA

[storm lantern]

they matter a little bit in rl and a lot in nirv, not really below that

[shell basin]

But if you have a good P1 fists like Pandora’s already leveled that might be better

[peak adder]

Is there anyway to not use the trial battle suit in the story?

[shell basin]

In the mean time I think you will probably want to use Sparkle dps in abyss, she’s not a very good brute forcer but she at least has a complete team

Can do simp or Sena or VBM third, whoever is best prolly depends on abyss

(vita second ofc)

In terms of cope options if you really need Sena DPS for something you can also give her Vita’s weapon temporarily

It’s not as good as a sig but it’s better than the foundry one

[desert beacon]

this one?

[shell basin]

Ye

[desert beacon]

vbm is coarlie right?

[shell basin]

Yes

She’s worse but has her weapon and I don’t know how that shakes out

Haven’t tried using wepless Simp as a support before

[lapis lichen]

hi, sorry if this is a silly question but my elysia isnt showing up when i make a team to play through chapter 5. Is there a reason for this happening?

[shell basin]

You can’t use part 2 characters in part 1

And also after the first few story chapters you get locked into trial battlesuits anyway

[lapis lichen]

omg thats so annoying

[storm lantern]

its ok ci shreds everything

[lapis lichen]

i guess ill have to level up my seele or HoV to make the story easier

[storm lantern]

sp you have to level anyway for starter manual so you can use her, hov you'll prob use for MA so you can also level her

[lapis lichen]

so i should level up griseo and hov?

[storm lantern]

lower priority than p2 valks obviously but yeah

ur prob gonna use all of si hov rc ta

[lapis lichen]

which one should i level up first?

[storm lantern]

rc since you can use her for p1 content she's the best farmable p1 support for hle and she can also support hov if you need her to

[lapis lichen]

okie dokie thanks ill level her up then

then ill try level hov and then maybe si

[odd plume]

nope, sometimes they allow you to add your own p1 valk, on later chapter, you have more freedom to pick

[coral void]

I’m trying to reforge an Ana Schariac stig into a Willows stig and have both the crystalyte and the Ana stig at required level 35 but when I go to confirm the forging the confirm button is greyed out. I thought maybe it was because the stig was locked but I unlocked it and it still appears as locked for some reason?

[shell basin]

Screenshot?

[storm lantern]

try unequipping it

[coral void]

That worked thank you 🙏

[tall flax]

You have to max out the level

[storm lantern]

you don't

[tall flax]

Actually idk it’s been a while since I last used Transmission

[coral void]

No I thought that’s what I needed but it said level was too high and it refunded me materials thankfully

[rugged compass]

Kinda sad..atleast when i had wepless and did lv support
Maybe WoD bronya zay?

[coral void]

How do I get Star of Eden World from Star of Eden Anti Entropy? Do I have to tune the weapon or is it a PRI-Arm?

[tall flax]

The weapon has to be tuned to become a DKey first

[coral void]

Is Eden World a divine key? I’m kinda confused I just know it’s BiS for HoR Bronya

[spiral badge]

star of eden AE is the base form
star of eden World is the higher pri arm form

both forms are considered one divine key. In fact you cannot craft the pri arm form without tuning the lower form first. Crafting world requires the tuned form of AE

[coral void]

Cool, thanks for the clarification

[proper quiver]

im at 42 pity on carnival (gambeling addiction kicked in) who should i aim for? i like Ps but i heard badum is better

hle, horb, sena are 4/4. thelema is like a couple days from 4/4. VBM has her weapon (i think) but the rest have non of their stigmas or weapons

also whatever unit i get would be without their weapon

[shut frigate]

I shouldn't do this right?