👶beginner-help

[spiral badge]

sometimes we get people who aren't en proficient to pick up on sarcasm either

[upbeat egret]

Hofi ranks doesn't matter only the synergy

[quick birch]

yeah ik that but let's say we'd get a non RoO valk with OS they still wouldnt be able to support vita or fdd

that's just what i wanted to say

[spiral badge]

anyway i do need to go soon. do you have any other questions you wish to explore @fallen shale ?

[lone kindle]

Yeah i know, just wanted to punctuate it

[fallen shale]

not atm I think I'm set for now

gonna grab that FDD

[lone kindle]

Don't worry we here

[fallen shale]

though a little disappointed she won't kill VBM yet

[spiral badge]

yea true. i'll take my leave then. it's nice to have more prof around to count on

[fallen shale]

I was kinda hoping VBM would be dead

[lone kindle]

[lone kindle]

She's not dead

Just

-# dead

[spiral badge]

eventually you'll snuff out VBm but in the meantime just appreciate you can use her instead of some p1 valk

[lone kindle]

Yeah

[upbeat egret]

Vbm is small coralie?

[fallen shale]

yea

[quick birch]

yuh

[spiral badge]

yeah

valk blastmetal

[lone kindle]

Yeps

[upbeat egret]

Okay thanks

[fallen shale]

mfw we can't say cora anymore because there's now two of her

[spiral badge]

i love how the initial three of us all said yeah in different ways

we went through this with ely before so it's nothing really new but yeah

[fallen shale]

didn't helia also do it to herself this very patch

[spiral badge]

oh and helia too but vbs wasn't relevant enough for this to really be a bother

yeah lol

[fallen shale]

lol

[lone kindle]

Nah new helia obliterated old helia

Old helia was already half dead

[spiral badge]

true

[fallen shale]

I use vbs in MA (to support paws)

[spiral badge]

ok i better delete that in the next 5s (posted a gif from a big moment in the story)

[quick birch]

not even half dead lowk completely dead

[lone kindle]

[fallen shale]

it's ok I've accepted I will never be able to escape spoilers for this game
🫠

[lone kindle]

The other halk is her being usable unlike p1 valks

[upbeat egret]

Okay time to bald beta 560D again

[spiral badge]

oh i'm very sorry if i spoiled anything for you. I thought you were well caught up by now for some reason

[fallen shale]

I'm doing the reading order so I'm basically taking the long route through the story lol

[lone kindle]

I mean, you just saw old pinching new, you don't know what happens

Its a minor spoiler

[fallen shale]

I've barely even reached the playable sections of the story

[lone kindle]

All the story is playable

[fallen shale]

I mean I'm reading the mangas that go before the in-game chapters

[spiral badge]

well it sounds like you have a ton of crystals to still get at least

[fallen shale]

yes a lot

[lone kindle]

How many xtals history had again?

[fallen shale]

but it's a bit of a trek to get them all lol

[lone kindle]

It was over 20k almost right?

[spiral badge]

yeah definitely pace yourself

idr. the crystal pin should have it

[fallen shale]

#📚honkai-lore gave me an estimated reading time I'm gonna be here a while

almost like an 8 year old game has a lot of words by now or something

[spiral badge]

but anyway that's no excuse for me to post that gif no matter how opportune or minor. So again i apologize.

[lone kindle]

Not just cause of story, honkai has a lot of text, info, and tech its recommended to know, so yeah, take your time, take it easy, and ask everything

[ancient needle]

Mooooots, gotta make a note

[lone kindle]

We're going to complain about you asking

[fallen shale]

ye I tried to rawdog it and got extremely lost so that's why I'm doing the reading order now

lol

having a great time honestly

[tacit ravine]

I found it funny lurking and it made me want to pick up part 2 story again, so maybe a minor excuse

[spiral badge]

haha well at least there's that

but still i'll refrain more in the future

[fallen shale]

if it's any consolation I'm so comically far away from any P2 story that I'll probably have forgotten the contents of that gif by then

[shell basin]

the problem with new helia is I needed to use old helia to support her on MA

[fallen shale]

I also have this problem

[shell basin]

was tragic

[fallen shale]

forget killing vbm I need vbs deader

[shell basin]

luckily I will never have to do that again

[autumn oxide]

sai

[shell basin]

because I can always pair paws with either PS or FDD

god no symbiosis teammates paws was so scuffed

[lone kindle]

Pls learn p2 team building

[spiral badge]

i think they are using vbs due to a lack of better options. it's not a team construction knowledge problem

[autumn oxide]

rs hh what third slot

[spiral badge]

what context

[shell basin]

Yeah my part 2 ops rn are VBS VBM PAWS PS

[autumn oxide]

fire tank

no spark fws tho

[shell basin]

so I was running PAWS VBM VBS and then coping with P1 supports for PS

[lone kindle]

I meant using old helia to support new helia

[spiral badge]

yeah ik. I actually have done this myself

[shell basin]

she gives ARI

and minor buffs

I dont have a better option

[spiral badge]

idk if it's best but even if vbs isn't matching, if you have nothing else matching, then vbs can give some benefits. long buff uptime and ari yeah

[lone kindle]

Every valk gives ari through strllar drain and amll buffs

[spiral badge]

every p2 valk but not p1 valks

[lone kindle]

But if attributes dont sinergyze with ar type then you loose more than you gain

[spiral badge]

so what p1 alternative would you suggest?

[lone kindle]

True, thanks for pointing it out

[spiral badge]

kira comes to mind possibly

[shell basin]

I had been trying GD but her scores were worse than boltstorms

[lone kindle]

Yeah, a p1 support for the dmg type of the leader

For example someone like eden

[spiral badge]

i don't feel other p1 support effects would last long enough

[lone kindle]

Long buffs for paws long ass so

[lone kindle]

Teah paws so is so long

[spiral badge]

kira can at least stay off field. TA too

[surreal garden]

how do i use this again

[shell basin]

It's not the end of the world if you go coralie -> gd -> paws but it's not great yeah

[lone kindle]

Hb maybe too, its scuffed anyways sooo

[shell basin]

cycles were all super scuffed

[spiral badge]

i have no clue. lantern nation raaah

[autumn oxide]

:ducksmh:

[spiral badge]

i don't think a low rank Hb would give anything notable and it would take more time to prep up her drone.

[shell basin]

yeah my HB is still rank A

[spiral badge]

needs SS for instant meter on start iirc?

[shadow gyro]

you use it when in the er story u need to use trial HoT to do er stages
for dialogue u don't use it

[lone kindle]

Oh mae

[shadow gyro]

[spiral badge]

i guess SA too by extension, and at worst you can just slap on stig effects to trigger for them but at that point, kira is just better

[lone kindle]

Dont really remember its been so long

[surreal garden]

ah so i still have to do these normal ones

[lone kindle]

Yeah again kira op

She's the newest of that type of valks

[shadow gyro]

if its deep or shallow sequence then yeah u still need to do them

[surreal garden]

alright ty cuz i forgot abt these

[spiral badge]

arguable. Kira is only some TDM from her first sp skill which is already relatively stacked with VBm cora on the team. TA would have similar concerns too and lesser stig effects (no candy)

VBs can give some elemental dmg from her weapon active or even ult which sounds possibly better and less diluted esp when going into PAWS outburst

overall idk the true answer since i didn't try the p1 options

[lone kindle]

In comparison to older valks that need to join in

[spiral badge]

oh well yeah ofc

but i mean the initial comparison was VBs who compensates with a longer buff uptime

[lone kindle]

Yeah obviously, any roo valk would win over older non ring valks

[spiral badge]

uh i didn't say vbm. This is still old helia

[lone kindle]

Well, still true

[shell basin]

VBs isn't ROO

[lone kindle]

P1 valks are very bad in todays standards

[spiral badge]

Basically paws, VBm, and then third slot is awkward. So kira, TA, or VBs are all candidates in my eyes assuming no obvious better options that are gacha locked.

[shell basin]

anyway point is that at least for me VBS spent a while as BIS support in MA and that was really awkward. TA might have been usable but I was using her to support PS

most weeks

and I am glad that I can finally stop using her

after just 8 more days

[lone kindle]

Sairaan weren't you going to leave?

[spiral badge]

in the case of MA, keep in mind that gamemode is affected by time fractures and suspended animations

[shell basin]

sure

[spiral badge]

so if you want another idea, maybe you can explore cycling through valks and relying on an incomplete PAWS portion to deal your damage? Like QTE, ult, or maybe even ba and wa to your second ult

then maybe the third valk can be a long time fracture valk such as VP or DK

[spiral badge]

yeah i was supposed to but i have a history about being bad about this lol

[lone kindle]

Then just leave now

[spiral badge]

alright alright lol

[shell basin]

Worth a shot at least

[lone kindle]

Let him do his stuff

He'll come back later

[upbeat egret]

[cedar gale]

Whats a good way to earn the summoning curency

[odd plume]

well, there are only that much amount of crystal that you can get, just do everything, focus on time limited stuffs first, like event, daily/weekly

check the pin for once time crystal and see what give you crystal

[wooden karma]

any tips on hi3 guys I’m new

[quick birch]

otherwise for other questions check pins + ask us

[wooden karma]

Thanksss

[faint wasp]

when did HoHe get a dkey?

or what is that new weapon that she has on hot on the trail and how does she have the ringy thing?

[quick birch]

8.1

[quick birch]

yes, she gained acces to the ring system through the dkey

[faint wasp]

what role does she play as now? still a dps?

[quick birch]

p2 S ranks are both dps and support

same does HoHe she's a support and dps

[faint wasp]

I see

too bad I missed 8.1 I LOVE MY ELY BABES SO MUCH

[keen solstice]

how to obtain this

[shadow gyro]

no more
used to be purchasable with crystals in 8.1

[abstract sequoia]

last time was an anniversary sale with all the part 1 bridges on sale

[keen solstice]

og

[shadow gyro]

it might show up again but its unknown

[abstract sequoia]

this bridge was bchips only

[keen solstice]

bchips?

[shadow gyro]

oh wait it was?

[abstract sequoia]

the rest were for crystals

[outer spruce]

arc city was always b chips only

[shadow gyro]

oh right...

[abstract sequoia]

paid only currency

[keen solstice]

im gonna have a breakdown

[shadow gyro]

it was that bchip deal that also offer crystals now i remember...

[abstract sequoia]

yea, which made the deal a bit sweeter

if you forget how much you paid irl for the bchips

[keen solstice]

damn and it looks so peak

[abstract sequoia]

I'd recommend buying one the other bridges if you want. the price should be at around 5 pulls

[keen solstice]

where are the other bridges tho

[keen solstice]

crystals or paid currency

[shadow gyro]

yeah it was
but like that was in 8.1

[abstract sequoia]

crystals

so those are f2p

[shadow gyro]

who knows if they rerun again...

[abstract sequoia]

i wouldn't see why not

[keen solstice]

9.1, trust

[abstract sequoia]

wait for anniversary patch

[keen solstice]

when is that anyway

[shadow gyro]

yeah, chances it will show up there

[shadow gyro]

its estimated that it should be 8.5 but no confirmation yet

[quick birch]

8.5 so in 10 weeks

Otherwise cny/global anniversary should be in 8.7

[keen solstice]

they skip after 8.5 or smth?

[abstract sequoia]

March 28 for EU and NA

[quick birch]

Nah we have 1 patch between 8.5 and 8.6

[abstract sequoia]

we got the patch this year on February 20th

[keen solstice]

oh nvm

[quick birch]

8.5 is cn Ani and 8.7 global Ani/cny

[abstract sequoia]

i meant global anni

or am i misremembering when bridges went on sale, one sec

[keen solstice]

i mean what other bridges are there

[quick birch]

Those you see there are all of the P1 bridges

[shadow gyro]

u can use the part 2 one if u want, its free
will lock you to p2 valks/aop on the bridge screen tho

[keen solstice]

i unlocked p2 by accident by clicking on an event

earlier

[shadow gyro]

its fine, u need to do it soon anyways

[keen solstice]

atleast after what chapter should i be doing it

[abstract sequoia]

those and 2 part 2 story locations. Oxia and Hyperion 11

both unlocked for free

[shadow gyro]

#👶beginner-help message if you care about reading order
otherwise it doesn't matter u only need to be level 30 to unlock it

even if you need to do part 2 story for the beginner manual, the first 3 chapters vaguely talk about the part 1 story so u should be fine as well

[mortal carbon]

Actually that link is out of date, me and sencho updated it now to the new and improved version

!FAQ ro

[small willow]

Recommended Reading Order

[mortal carbon]

If you do plan to follow the recommend reading order, that's the more up to date version

[shadow gyro]

thank you!!

[mortal carbon]

np, it was updated like a couple of months ago but i forgor about the faq for it

[shadow gyro]

it's alr!

[keen solstice]

Is it okay if I won't read the manga

[mortal carbon]

its ok, it honestly just depends on how much worldbuilding context you care about. the manga covers a lot of stuff that happens before the start of the game, and is referenced so it does improve the impact of some things. so it just depends on if you care about maximum context for things or not. but the game itself still for the most part does a good job at explaining the super important bits when its very needed so its not absolutely required to understand anything thats going on

just kinda depends on how much lore you feel like lore'ing i guess

[keen solstice]

I'm not really that one person to read, I'll just go for the main story only

[dry fern]

!faq 722

[lone kindle]

only st.proffs and mods can use them

and even if we used them, theres no infinite faqs

!faq 722

[small willow]

No FAQ for '722' found.

[lone kindle]

what did you want to know?

im here to answer

[pallid vortex]

Hi guys i have a question i got the charcter name Vita and her weapon so is she good i am a returner so am not sure about which character is good or not i pulled because i liked the design and the charcter in the story i played recently

[lone kindle]

could you send ss of the characters you have?

[ancient needle]

She's good, but she's not recommended to get atp

[pallid vortex]

Ok give me a sec

[ancient needle]

There are better pulls but your decision is fine if you're on the more casual side

[pallid vortex]

Yeah iam casual i guess

[lone kindle]

thats for you to choose,
would you like to involve in the competitive gameplay
or do you prefer to just chill and enjoy the game and the history?

[lone kindle]

could you in the filter select the astral ring so we can see what new valks do you have?

[pallid vortex]

Yep to be honest i returned to play the story mostly but i also enjoy the game play so a bit of bith

[lone kindle]

like this

[pallid vortex]

Yep just a sec

[lone kindle]

hmm so just those two, i guess you dont have many xtals left

teammate wait before saying it

im reading your mind

[pallid vortex]

Xtals means?

[lone kindle]

[ancient needle]

Waiting

[lone kindle]

[pallid vortex]

Oh iam still new to the Story iam just completed chapter 13

[lone kindle]

so, the thing is, are you atached to that acount? do you hold it dearly?

[pallid vortex]

Well yes

[lone kindle]

then continue like this, try to get the next valk when she comes, its a coralie like the one you have with the hammer but she looks like a dragon

pretty strong

and you can use the three of them (both coralie and vita) in a team and its actually pretty good

[ancient needle]

Make sure to get Coralie's weapon from Part 2 story btw

[pallid vortex]

Oh ok thx i will do that then btw i still don't know much about the state so how much usually crit has to be for a dps

[outer spruce]

elemental characters can't crit

[pallid vortex]

Ooh

[lone kindle]

like jahab said, only phisical characters crit, and its different than genshin if you are thinking of gi

[quick birch]

give this a read if you wanna see how CRT and crit rate work and what they actually are

because CRT isnt actually crit rate

[pallid vortex]

Ok then thx for the help again guys i will do my homework on the mechanics i guess

[lone kindle]

dont try to rawdog them, theres a lot of mechanics, info and tech to know

if you dont understand anything dont doubt to ask

we (st.proffs (the yellows)) are chosen by server to help people

[pallid vortex]

Sure i won't hesitate to ask 👍🏻

Wiat a sec i forgot since well you saw my Valkyries which should i build besides the astral ring ones

[lone kindle]

tbf? any... astral ring is the only meta important feature now

besides that just build what you like the most

and

!faq tierlist

[small willow]

Tier Lists

Be careful, Captain!

⚠️ TIER LISTS ARE NOT VIABLE IN HONKAI IMPACT 3RD.*

If you have seen a tier list, DO NOT BLINDLY INVEST INTO ANYTHING IT CLAIMS IS 'GOOD'.

While some tier lists may reflect the current meta, those characters will not help you to build a competitive account. In Honkai Impact 3rd, we optimally invest in the future meta upon its arrival, as the value of a Valkyrie peaks on her release.

*This FAQ refers to competitive/investment tier lists. Cuteness tier lists and the like are exempt from this, but please do not post tier lists in help channels.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides! + !faq pull and !faq meta

[upbeat egret]

!faq beginner

[small willow]

Did you mean

FAQ id:93 tags:startersupply, starter, starterbanner, beginnerbanner
FAQ id:168 tags:cheapset, budget stig, cheapstig, beginnerstig, fhm, glut

[lone kindle]

if you see someone telling you to watch X tierlist, then just dont listen to them

[upbeat egret]

!faq beginner stig

[small willow]

No FAQ for 'beginner stig' found.

[quick birch]

asa its fhm

[upbeat egret]

!faq fhm

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[upbeat egret]

Thx mango

Why do peeps even call it fhm

[pallid vortex]

Wow that was cool is there specific commands to respon Ai chan

[sweet flax]

Baby steps

[upbeat egret]

[sweet flax]

Training manual, one of the beginner stigs is fhm that is used in all beginner teams basically

[ancient needle]

Yes, but regular server members can't use them

Only Profs and above

[pallid vortex]

Oh ok well i guess i will count on you guys ~

[lone kindle]

theres a big list of them, you wont remember if you tried

im already like 2 years in the role and still forget them

[upbeat egret]

Faq beginner would be better i think

[quick birch]

for your vita i'd actually recommend you to get Valkyrie bolstorm from the asterite shop since she can trigger stellar drain ( so that you can get your stellar outburst faster) and she gives generic lightning buff which your vita can benefit from

[sweet flax]

Too bad we're used to fhm

[upbeat egret]

I.will need to change it
.sorry guys

[lone kindle]

they still can search it with fhm

[quick birch]

depending on your current crystals + pity you maybe even want to consider next patch's valk since she and vita have some synergy and it would be a pretty big upgrade for your vitas dmg

[lone kindle]

theres also

!faq cheapset

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[quick birch]

can't you have 1 faq with multiple names

yeah like that

[upbeat egret]

We can yes

[lone kindle]

yeah, usually they have multiple tags

!faq search fhm

[small willow]

All FAQs containing 'fhm':

FAQ id:168 tags:cheapset, budget stig, cheapstig, beginnerstig, fhm, glut

[sweet flax]

[upbeat egret]

Faq gluto

[mortal carbon]

The full list with the names are in the pins

(all the alternate names)

[pallid vortex]

Btw guys there are alot of gane moods but there is a certain game mode i used to get divine keys from so is that game removed or something 🤔

[lone kindle]

co-op

yes

[outer spruce]

replaced by realms of battle

[sweet flax]

co-op dkeys are now in realms

[quick birch]

coop isnt a thing anymore but you now get those 5 divine keys in realms of battle

[pallid vortex]

Oh ok well i completed this round then

[lone kindle]

thers a lite feature now

so dont need to complete them EVERY WEEK

[pallid vortex]

Is there any other game mood you guys recommend i focus on there is a new mood i say with Elysium or something like taht

[lone kindle]

elysian realm and abyss

those are the mains modes to get xtals

(renuavle xtals)

[pallid vortex]

Oh cool then i guess i have alot to farm

[lone kindle]

history gives more on the short term, but its one time get

[quick birch]

Elysian realm is pretty nice 500 crystals per week and other mats, beside from that there's also Abyss( superstring dimension Q manifold as sencho already mentioned ) and MA which also gives you a fair share of resources such as prisms which are pretty nice and a tight resource especially for new/returning players

[lone kindle]

elysian*

[quick birch]

idk why i though of elysium lol played too much hades

[pallid vortex]

Wow you just reminded by a certain friend

[sweet flax]

probs cuz the other guy called it elysium not a few messages ago

[dry fern]

so as a new player I shouldn't pull until the 25th?

is it alright to use resources to lvl up the free chars then to clear story

[thick bolt]

Fine till lvl 50 max, you wont need investment beyond that for story and the costs also rise exponentially

and yeah you should hold off pulling till next patch (21st) since it's a new quite nice battlesuit so it's both taking advantage of the initial shill period as well as a great baseline for future unit pulling for account development.

if you're looking for teams in the meanwhile then this may help

!faq fhm

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[thick bolt]

something to work towards gradually since the point you really start needing these is around lvl 60+

[ancient needle]

21st

But yes

Oh, Star alr mentioned the date

[wraith brook]

Can we use This team on Husk- Existentialism?

[ancient needle]

Yeah, sure

[wraith brook]

thanks, guess that better then Trio
Want ask also, did we use PS as main dmg or Helia?

I see PS as leader. but not sure

[lone kindle]

? trio is the second best team

[lone kindle]

only if you have teri aop imo

[ancient needle]

Their trio is on copium

[wraith brook]

only DS ss

[ancient needle]

Helia it is then

[wraith brook]

by second u mean second boss?

[lone kindle]

take hotr out and use eden

just see the leaderboard on husk

[ancient needle]

No, trio is the second best team to use on the second boss
The absolute best team is HoO DPS

With Eden, yes

[sweet flax]

assuming eden has eop at the very least i'd guess

[wraith brook]

sss hoo

[lone kindle]

eop¿

[sweet flax]

her weapon

[lone kindle]

yeah, we said bis, not budget

[lone kindle]

well, just see this

[ancient needle]

SSS is not necessary

[sweet flax]

SS is the main rank for hoo dps (or s3, cant remember)

SSS is just icing on the cake

[quick birch]

should be SS

[wraith brook]

blew

[quick birch]

well

[wraith brook]

idk where take s3

[keen solstice]

What are these for

[sweet flax]

you can get her to SS easily via elysian realm and pwo stamps

[wraith brook]

pwo?

[quick birch]

you can use them to get more rewards in universal mirage

[wraith brook]

oh i dont have that thing ugess

[lone kindle]

to get more resources on mirage

[sweet flax]

pure witch orbs, the S rank valks in war treasury when you get one to SSS and get more of her shards, they convert into pure witch orbs (or pwo)

[lone kindle]

!faq pwo

[small willow]

Pure Witch Orb

Hi, Captain!

After successfully upgrading an S-Rank Valkyrie to SSS, the "Pure Witch Orb" section of the Witch's Corridor shop will be unlocked. Like normal Witch Orbs, any more fragments you obtain from this Valkyrie can be converted into Pure Witch Orbs (pwo) via Equip > Fragments > Convert (above Salvage, bottom right).

Conversions:

• S-rank valk frag => 50 pwo
• S-rank Awakening valk frag => 30 pwo

Here, you can buy everything shown in the image below. Occasionally new stamps get added to this shop. The recommendation is to buy Wafer Stabilizers, but you may also buy stamps of your choice or even Wafer Dataflows if you are pushing for 23 ATK affix lines.

[keen solstice]

This thing is gonna open in 9h or less right

Cause I'm losing my mind

[sweet flax]

universal mirage is already open?

[lone kindle]

it doesnt close directly

[quick birch]

Universal mirage is already open it's never really closes

[keen solstice]

Oh I confused it with abyss

[sweet flax]

it just refreshes attempts once a week on monday (weekly reset)

[lone kindle]

you get 10 attemps weakly and thats all

[lone kindle]

depends on your server

#⏰notification

in there it says the status

eu abyss is open

same with sea's

[keen solstice]

Well abyss is tomorrow for me

[sweet flax]

na abyss should open in 1 and a half hours

[keen solstice]

Oh

[sweet flax]

abyss opens 3pm server time

[sweet flax]

server times are listed in #status

[sweet flax]

then you are gonna need pwo

did you already unlock all the war treasury valks for elysian realm/dorm levels

[wraith brook]

what the diffierense betwen
S-rank valk frag => 50 pwo
S-rank Awakening valk frag => 30 pwo

[wraith brook]

not sure

what the dorm lvl?

[lone kindle]

6.25 de PWO por cada 1 de AL en las No-Awaken
6 de PWO por cada 1 de AL en las Awaken (Not Worth)

3.5714285... PWO for each 1AW No-Awaken
3.333333... PWO for each 1 AW Awaken (Not Worth)

Worth de comprar con AW:
LE y KMB (firsxt discounted frag)
FR
MPE
DB
BR
VE/TP
CH
SK
Phoenix
AKA
MC/FT
SN

Worth de comprar con AL:
IO
SN
DA
BKE
HoF

AW = Ancient Willpower
AL = Ancient Legacy
PWO = Pure Witch Orb

[sweet flax]

awakening valks are valks who share skill levels with other suits (like gyakusinn miko and crimson impulse)

[lone kindle]

its in spanish bcs i have not still updated the text

but you guys more or less understand

[sweet flax]

well anyways, refer to the war treasury pin and make sure you unlock all the valks in there first

since those are available in elysian realm

after that you can prioritise getting one of those valks to SSS with the idea that you will be getting her shards after SSS to convert into pwo

this is not gonna be something that takes one or two weeks mind you

[lone kindle]

one or two?

weeks?

more like months

or even years to get enough valks

[sweet flax]

its NOT gonna be something that takes one or two weeks

as in it will take a long ass time

[lone kindle]

farming the valks on war treasury?

[wraith brook]

guess i buy all i can for ER depend on that

[lone kindle]

yes, its years

unlocking the ones you have in er still a couple of monts

[lone kindle]

those two are cores

!faq core

[wraith brook]

iknow, but no know where to get them

[lone kindle]

!faq aug core

[small willow]

No FAQ for 'aug core' found.

[lone kindle]

[wraith brook]

XD

i fammilar with them,

[sweet flax]

that is true, but he isnt new new and already has a majority of the valks owned, which is why im discussing getting a valk to SSS for pwo now

[lone kindle]

ç

you only need to unlock the two that are used on er tho

i have them because i used them when they were usefull

[wraith brook]

so do i need buy other 4?

[lone kindle]

no, just the two that are used in er

[wraith brook]

m not sure depen on how much i slack this game.

[lone kindle]

ah sorry

its three

delta s a core too

[wraith brook]

oh

[lone kindle]

ftd, tp, and vb

[wraith brook]

its valk name?

cant find ftd

I need full core upgrade for all?

[thick bolt]

just unlock is enough for ER

[wraith brook]

but in time i need to clear it fro valk?

[thick bolt]

uhh can you repeat, didn't understand

[wraith brook]

may bad

sec i better use translaete

[wraith brook]

but after a while, will I have to use it for ER?

[thick bolt]

the base augment core can clear ER (you can refer to the shallow sequences guide in the pins) while upgrading the core doesn't increase dorm exp from what I'm seeing

[vagrant iris]

How do I know which valkyries to invest in

[wraith brook]

[quick birch]

the rule of thumb is to get the newest release of the patch + their weapon, if you're a beginner atm save until the next version and then get the new valk + her weapon

next patch is next Thursday

[wraith brook]

better send crystals

that will usefull guess

[wraith brook]

this one?

[wraith brook]

well, i not undestadn
but did i use HoO team or RS better ?

[quick birch]

with your team probably RS

[sweet flax]

I doubt your hoo will do well without ranks, you can always use training mode to see how they score compared to each other but its very likely rs will be the better result

[quick birch]

HoO really want's that SS for her DPS

[wraith brook]

can i get SS with PWO when i have only s2?

[quick birch]

yeah though you won't be able to do that before this weeks MA ends unless you have an abundance of PWO

[wraith brook]

still hard to undestadn, only guess HoF as Hersher of Flame

[quick birch]

Herrscher of Flamescion yeah though we normally refer to her has HoFs to avoid confusion with HoFi

[tulip sedge]

Flamescion if i correct.

Uh, yeah

[wraith brook]

no chanse dont even have such page

[sweet flax]

you need to get pwo to unlock the page

similar to how you got the regular witch orbs for this page

[wraith brook]

dont remeber how it tight

rigth*

[wraith brook]

don knwot

[tulip sedge]

Wtf? What is witch corridor? First time seeing it

Or it something new?

[quick birch]

not really though it's rather something older players get

you unlock normal witch orbs by converting fragments of a Base A rank valk that you already have SSS and pure witch orbs by converting fragments from a base S rank valk which you already have SSS

[quick birch]

can take some time to get there especially when you want to prioritise getting all valks in WT that are in ER

[tulip sedge]

Hmm, thank you, will be useful, but not soon.

[sweet flax]

the main use for the regular witch orbs is for the ncc which is pretty irrelevant early on as atk isnt as beneficial in early content

so there's no need to rush it as a beginner

naturally, beginners will also prioritise taking vbm to SSS so they'll unlock the store eventually

[wraith brook]

vbm?

?

[quick birch]

yeah a rank coralie

[sweet flax]

there's a glossary in pins, vbm is valkyrie blastmetal, a rank coralie

[quick birch]

get used to Vbm u'll hear it a lot now because we got a second coralie now

[sweet flax]

since fdd (s rank coralie) is coming next patch we are gonna be avoiding refering to her as coralie from now on when helping new players

[quick birch]

especially when our team recommendations would look like coralie/coralie/insert cope support here and the leader is pretty imporatant in p2 team so it's a lot clearer who should be where if we say fdd+Vbm+RC/CN/TA for example

[sweet flax]

wouldnt vbs also be an option since fdd is roo so it would count towards the leader skill?

unless im forgetting how roo worked

[wispy aurora]

I've ran out of characters to use the key for (ER) unless I use my Golden Egg, Character Box or buy from WT

[sweet flax]

there's a pin discussing the golden egg and which choice to make, refer to wt as well to help with that decision
character box, is this the one that also had the affix material?

[quick birch]

yeah it does actually let me look up what the leader skill does

and idr what non ring dependant buffs VBs gives

[sweet flax]

ill check that rq

[quick birch]

doesnt seem that significant especially when coralie already provides said buff

[sweet flax]

kit has 20% elemental damage vulnerability (albeit from ult)
25% elemental damage bonus

2pc has 20% elemental dmg bonus
3pc has 40% total damage bonus

anything else is world star related or lightning buffs

[quick birch]

hm the first 2 + stellar drain seem kinda nice though

[quick birch]

for WT and the egg check pins

[sweet flax]

.

[quick birch]

welp

[sweet flax]

a reply would be appreciated shuvi

[wispy aurora]

My choices are - VE, CH, FR for me to unlock a character in ER

[tulip sedge]

Yep, i kinda planning to craft vbm stigma at least lvl 35-40 and save other prisms for fdd

[wispy aurora]

As im out of ones to unlock unless I use the EGG, Character Box or Buy from WT

[sweet flax]

fr isnt even here, you would need to unlock her from wt

[wispy aurora]

My B

[sweet flax]

as for ve or ch, you can compare their cost in wt

[wispy aurora]

They're both 1120

[sweet flax]

if you want to rush an option

[quick birch]

tbh VBs is kinda dead outside of cope options by now and crafting her stigmatas would take up quite a few prisms + ether fuel especially when we consider that upgrading a whole set takes 21 prisms

[sweet flax]

have you already checked the wt pin and unlocked the recommended valks?

[wispy aurora]

If I need to buy I can 🤷‍♂️

[sweet flax]

yes you should buy

please check the war treasury pin

[tulip sedge]

It's she or vbs.

[quick birch]

100% FDD iirc you have paws ?

[tulip sedge]

Yes

[quick birch]

Vbs would be pretty much irellevant for you then

outside of MA i guess

[sweet flax]

he mentioned vbm, did you missread vbs or?

[quick birch]

erm

please just

erm forget everything i said

[tulip sedge]

Yep, paws, vbm + fdd will be my team for 2+ month. So i want to craft vbm stigm

[sweet flax]

how many source prisms do you have akemi

[tulip sedge]

Because there so much additional dmg

[quick birch]

but still you should probably focus on getting paws + FDD to max level before considering VBm stigs

[tulip sedge]

Paws full and i have 35 prismsl

[quick birch]

at least that's a few what about ether fuel

[sweet flax]

save those prisms for fdd then, you will have enough to craft vbm stigs without leveling but to be safe incase you need to craft fdd stigs as well

[tulip sedge]

And in MA i obviously will use paws and fdd on different bosses, so I can finally clear 2ss

[tulip sedge]

3100 if i remember right

[quick birch]

solid i'd just wait until after you have FDD stigs at max level and then ask again with your prism count then

[tulip sedge]

Yep, sounds fine, i just want have a team to sit in my agony 2. Because on my previous abyss i cannot clear anything except first stage.

And even this stage took 1.5 hour.

[quick birch]

tbf you'd have enough to max FDD + craft and craft cora stigs though you still have to consider the upcoming valks and all. i dont necessarily think that crafting VBm stigs is a really bad idea especially when she'll prob stick around for quite a while in your FDD team even after you have a second symbioses support for PAWS it's just that the prism income can be quite luck dependent because dupe stigs do make up a fair amount of it

[quick birch]

yeah your overall gameplay experience will probably improve quite a bit with fdd having at least 1 propper support for PAWS is already pretty huge because you can just SO 3x ult CA and then finisher to end the SO, and having 2 teams for different situations will probably also get you into some higher ranks

[wraith brook]

sry wawnt sure we talk sure about vbm as coralie a

[quick birch]

yeah a rank coralie is Valkyrie blastmetal and her abbreviation is VBm

[wraith brook]

so if we use VBM it be wrogn?

wrong*

[slim blaze]

Not really

[quick birch]

nah people would still understand you

[wraith brook]

so for now need figure thing about sss and pwo

[slim blaze]

Pure witch orbs?

[wraith brook]

Is name of valk on Spanish or eng?

[lone kindle]

valks are never translated

[wraith brook]

not sure but that yellow

[lone kindle]

at least not by people that know how to read

[lone kindle]

yes pwo are those yellow ones

[wraith brook]

so i can found all them on eng wiki ?

[lone kindle]

!faq pwo

[small willow]

Pure Witch Orb

Hi, Captain!

After successfully upgrading an S-Rank Valkyrie to SSS, the "Pure Witch Orb" section of the Witch's Corridor shop will be unlocked. Like normal Witch Orbs, any more fragments you obtain from this Valkyrie can be converted into Pure Witch Orbs (pwo) via Equip > Fragments > Convert (above Salvage, bottom right).

Conversions:

• S-rank valk frag => 50 pwo
• S-rank Awakening valk frag => 30 pwo

Here, you can buy everything shown in the image below. Occasionally new stamps get added to this shop. The recommendation is to buy Wafer Stabilizers, but you may also buy stamps of your choice or even Wafer Dataflows if you are pushing for 23 ATK affix lines.

[lone kindle]

yes

!faq glossary

[small willow]

Glossary of Terms

There are so many abbreviations, Captain! What do they mean?

Use CTRL + F or 'Find in Page' to quick search abbreviations in the Glossary of Terms: e.g., ' RC ' (the spaces help!)

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Glossary_of_Terms

Still not sure? [Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Visual Guide for using the Glossary (applies to both PC and Mobile).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[wraith brook]

oh than it easier. just need canculete all valk in WT that who have higher S rank and

[quick birch]

@sweet flax Vbs will prob be the best option

that buff seems quite nice

• the things we've mentioned before

[sweet flax]

that + the total damage vuln

[wraith brook]

so most Worth first two?
Lighting Empire and KMB

@sweet flax u told about dorm lvl.
Did i need buy this 4?

[lone kindle]

no, first two fragments from kmb and le

[wraith brook]

m

[spiral badge]

dorm level goes up with any S rank you don't own yet. Ranking them up to SS helps too. It's not tied to specific valks anymore.

• you would want them at SS for clearing errands in the dorm menu too.

you can get dorm levels with valks that start with A ranks too but the amount of dorm levels you can get from those are limited.

KMB and LE are recommended because the first fragment every week is slightly discounted.

[wraith brook]

So

First mean only 1?

I see, thanks.

[lone kindle]

yes

first fragment each week

and only the first, doesnt matter if you build all of the frags

only one will be discounted

[verbal kraken]

is this Dkey still gatcha only ?

[wraith brook]

so, is not much worth to buy this 4
and better wait?

[sweet flax]

xy sword will be obtainable via spending event next patch

[lone kindle]

not yes, not no

[ancient needle]

Limited, but won't appear in gacha

[wraith brook]

And

[ancient needle]

It's notorious for being hella rare, it would be a very good idea to pick it up next patch if you're pulling in it alr

[verbal kraken]

ill pick it up

[lone kindle]

yeah, dont know how many years have passed since i saw it in gatcha

pick it up from there

[verbal kraken]

since its the last dkey i didnt have since i quit

besides the new 2x stellar keys that i dont have

[spiral badge]

hm i'm not sure what the ranks of all your other valks or what your dorm level is like right now.

A few dorm level bonuses aren't too big so you can just wait on buying the valk cards for now if you're not sure.

• You may consider getting KMB now but technically you can still buy the discounted fragments without owning her i think. What matters is you get her eventually.

Do you struggle accepting rare crystal errands in the dorm menu? If so then i would prioritize ranking up other cheap (doesn't cost AL) war treasury valks to SS rank first.

sorry for all the edits @wraith brook

[wraith brook]

AL it this valk?

[ancient needle]

Yes

[wraith brook]

What u mean by "dorm menu"?
this map or something else?

[wraith brook]

All fine i can wait.

[spiral badge]

that is the errand screen i was talking about. Sometimes crystals can show up there but have high requirements

so that's why i recommend getting WT valks to SS to be ready for it

[wraith brook]

oh, never have chanse to get them

[spiral badge]

make sure to use the refresh button at the top right of the specific errand screen too

that lets you change the requirements. The amount of stats you need for it is still going to be high but maybe it'll reroll into something you can actually accept

---

anyway the actual passive bonuses from dorm are somewhere else

from your screenshot, go back one screen and click dorm squad at the bottom left i think

[spiral badge]

yes this one

so you still have a few more levels to get before it's maxed out at 45

getting more valks (especially S ranks, but also ranking them up to SS) will eventually finish that

A ranks too but that has a cap that you may have already reached

you can preview the benefits too. It's not too big but late in the game, every little bit can count

[wraith brook]

U mean this?

[wraith brook]

A few dorm level bonuses aren't too big so you can just wait on buying the valk cards for now if you're not sure.-Also what the Valk Card?

I have this, but not sure i Understand u rights.
and Depend on Situation with my dorm lvl and Errands I need to find valk from AW who have most fragment to upgrade them to SS and buy it in WT

[wraith brook]

And not sure if get it right, but did i need buy 1 fragment KBM and LE or Buy Full Fragments?( or did i at all buy them)

Sry if it too much
*sry if im not respond go to prepare sleep.
im answer as i can if there still will be question

[spiral badge]

the valk cards are the full valks (not fragments) that you showed here earlier

you don't have to buy them right away. Their cost is the same as unlocking with fragments too. But fragments are more limited weekly.

If you have plenty of AW, then make sure to get the card to unlock the valk so you don't have to wait as much for fragments every week.

[spiral badge]

yeah. The main motivation for going to SS is so you don't have to miss out on errands that give crystals.

Along the way you will be finishing dorm squad levels too.

[lone kindle]

my message was about farming valks FOR WITCH ORBS

not general recomendation

[wraith brook]

sry

[lone kindle]

nah, dont worry, it was my bad for not properly explaining it and sending it in spanish

[spiral badge]

Mainly first fragment every week. It's not a huge discount (12 instead of 14)

I did say for most valks you want them to reach SS but for these two you can continue buying and eventually reach SSS. Any excess fragments at that point can be converted to gold witch orbs as sencho said. The shop for PWO isn't as efficient but has some things you can't really get from other shops.

so to summarize there's three objectives we have for farming WT valks

• having SS WT valks to handle dorm errand crystal tasks
• raising your dorm squad level to 45 max
• accessing PWO shop

[wraith brook]

but, can still use the prop as most worth valk

other thing depend on what i have

or i still dont see something other important sry

[spiral badge]

i'm not sure if i'm fully understanding but

everything in WT is very old and not actually too useful for actual gameplay at this point

if you still want to know specific use cases for some of the WT valks we can talk more

but otherwise don't worry about any specific valk too much for now

[wraith brook]

thnaks

[twilit junco]

can i do lower levels or do i have to wait till the timer?
the hp is actually insane

[spiral badge]

do as much as you reasonably can. If you're having trouble, show us the weather effect and enemies, and also what you have

this mode is one of your biggest source of crystals and is a main part of the game's meta

[twilit junco]

ahh so once u get to the highest
following this is a must

[spiral badge]

so it looks like this weather wants you to use fire. There's alot of psychic enemies too so a bio type may be appropriate.

Fl 3 has mech so psychic would be appropriate.

But for most intents and purposes early on, you prob don't have much and your early gacha valks will far outshine anything else even with the weather and type matching bonuses

[twilit junco]

this is what i have for fire dmg
but i dont like any of them so i dont bother building them

[spiral badge]

yeah prob don't bother with them except for coralie (VBm) in the middle

[twilit junco]

yea i dont have many characters lol

[spiral badge]

!faq fhm

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

can consult this if you don't have any gacha valks yet

lots of general info in the pins too if you haven't checked that yet

VBm is more of a support but can be an ok sub dps very early on. don't expect amazing results but save up crystals and work with what you affordably can for now until you can pull a new release (both valk and weapon)

[twilit junco]

ty

yea i use sugary as a dps lol

but then i realise shes a support xd

[winter panther]

hey can someone explain how do you get elysias extra animations or whatever in HOHE is it from flawless benediction and if so is it gacha?

[spiral badge]

Hohe's astral ring functionalities (outburst, new animations, etc) are indeed from her newest weapon which is gacha only

if you don't already have it and you want to be develop your account for the meta, do note it is no longer recommended to pick up

• f2p crystal income is limited and newer releases take priority

as for when it may rerun, i don't really know but you can keep an eye on the schedule in the pins of #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion channel

[winter panther]

okay thank you the meta doesnt really matter i tried other valks shes the only one i enjoy thank you very very much

[spiral badge]

if you just want to play and appreciate her animations, you can access her tutorial trial in attack > events tab > tactics class > hohe > one of the bottom paths for the new weapon

[winter panther]

oh really thank you i wanna see them myself

[spiral badge]

an alternative way to reach the tutorial is via the valk menu > hohe > tutorial at top right. There's also a guide button but don't trust ingame recommendations or guides. They're often outdated or wrong.

if you want to plan for a rerun of hohe's weapon someday, try to save up 17k crystals (60 rolls)

!faq crystals

[small willow]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[winter panther]

it shows vita there should i get her? or will i regret it also?

[spiral badge]

where?

[winter panther]

in the tutorial thing as a teamate

[spiral badge]

if you're asking for an hohe team, then typically it's senadina and thelema. Vita can be situationally acceptable

[spiral badge]

but as far as recommendations go, none of them are recommended anymore. Same reasoning as i gave before

either senadina and vita can provide elemental breach so hohe can ignore a portion of the enemy's resistance stat

senadina does it passively while vita needs to take some active field time

vita with her weapon can provide greater initial astral ring intensity (energy) regeneration, and has ways to restore slightly more astral ring energy too (abyssal energy stacks in her skill descriptions)

senadina also forcibly triggers her breach duration while vita can manually start it. If you don't have another means to accelerate your ARI then using senadina will cause you to have some downtime without breach before you can outburst a second time.

Maybe that's too much details. You can ignore the everything below the first block if it's too much.

Vita does have wider use cases for other teams than senadina but both won't support newer ring type teams nowadays.

---

As for Thelema she is notable because hohe's damage without outburst is pitiful. So thelema often deals damage in the meantime.

Thelema also has a lot of utility that supplement's HoHE's enemy matchups.

• Freeze utility. Relevant for hephaestus.
• triples her ARI regen upon evading an enemy attack. This can enable her to rapidly farm back to outburst depending on the fight. Thelema's personal weapon is required for this. Alot of hohe's matchups enables this.
• Shield break. Relevant for kasumi.

[winter panther]

hm i see i need alot to learn im taking all this in because ill do anything to make ely good is this games powercreep bad?

[spiral badge]

it goes wide is how i would describe it

so focusing on one thing isn't really going to work

but if you only want to focus on ely and understand the drop in performance in other aspects it's fine

[storm lantern]

worth noting if you want to make her good don't end up wasting all your xtals ||since 8.5 is not unlikely to be an elysia batlesuit||

[ancient needle]

There are a lot of niches to cover
On release a valk usually covers multiple of them, and her uses decrease over time
A valk fully dies in the meta in ~1.5-2 years based on past history (we don't know how 9-week patches will affect that tho)

Do keep in mind that even if a valk is dead in the meta she still is very usable in more casual Abyss tiers (RL and below)

[spiral badge]

adding on to this, we have no guarantee of this for now. it's just popular speculation based on recent cn events. Such predictions have been wrong before but for now it's prob better to be cautious and prep accordingly.

[ancient needle]

A valk's performance in a niche can vary a lot

In one niche she can be the absolute best option, but in another she can be 100% useless (not exaggerating)

[fallen furnace]

Guys how do i fully unlock all events and should I pull on the dorm supply or limited supply

[ancient needle]

All events except Hot on the Trail should unlock at ~lvl 30
Hot on the Trail needs lvl 50

!faq dorm supply

[small willow]

Dorm Supply

Be careful, Captain!

Do not spend crystals on Dorm Supply under any circumstances! Dorm Supply is our 'standard' banner. None of these Valkyries are worth spending crystals for. Do not buy Dorm Supply tickets for crystals (yes, even if it says 'discounted')!

Ideally, do not spend Dorm Supply cards outside of spending events: 20 of them can be contributed to each spending event!

It is okay to spend excess Dorm Supply cards to obtain your first 2 S-Ranks from Dorm Supply as the pity is reduced to 25, but ensure you keep 20 Dorm Supply cards in reserve.

Sources of free Dorm Supply Cards:

• Beginner bonuses, e.g. Starter's Manual phases.
• Monthly login rewards.
• Dorm shop.
• Armada shop.
• Armada commissions rewards.
• Weekly HOMU Hoard boxes (1 guaranteed per 4 opened).
• Cadet milestone achievements.
• Missions > Story > Challenges.

[ancient needle]

For now just save until the next patch (next Thursday)

And yes, there will be a spending event

[fallen furnace]

Aight thnks but I already spent 1500 for a 10 pull got lucky tho

[ancient needle]

What exactly did you get

[fallen furnace]

That s rank scythe user forgot her name

[ancient needle]

Stygian Nymph?

Or Starchasm Nyx

[fallen furnace]

No the other one

[ancient needle]

Not lucky at all, both of them are farmable

Most of the valks in Dorm Supply are

[outer spruce]

also don't spend crystals on dorm, dorm cards are very easy to get

[storm lantern]

getting lucky is still getting unlucky since u spent xtals on dorm

[ancient needle]

Anyway, just don't do it in the future and you're gtg

[fallen furnace]

Aight thnks

Is there any way to get herrscher of human ego

And is jade knight good?

[quick birch]

She's in reserve work or in level rush. Level rush is paid and reserve work takes ~ 1 year as a f2p to get a valk there, there's also betting things than HoHe to get in reserve work

[ancient needle]

Jade Knight is useful only in earlygame

[fallen furnace]

Aight great gotta go grind now

[quick birch]

She's okay for beginners and maybe you'll use her in MA but otherwise than that only really useful for the Elysian realm crystals

[shy kiln]

was there something better that i couldve invested in for this team? Im starting to fail abyss for the first time so im wondering if there was something i did/am doing wrong

It is just that mecha stages are barely passable for me now

[ancient needle]

Tsiolkovsky on Coralie (her sig stig set), but only if you have enough Prisms for both it and the next patch

Keep in mind that Tsio can be kept at lvl 35

And upgrading Helia's weap ofc, but again, gotta keep mats for 8.4

[quick birch]

Also may I ask why it says unowned for the paws weapon ? Did you just pri armed it recently ?

[shy kiln]

i just did recently yes

[ancient needle]

And ofc leveling up Helia and Coralie to 80

[quick birch]

So the game does count that as unowned yeah DW then

As long as you have her weapon you're fine lol

[ancient needle]

You always are free to send a run of yours btw

We can tell you where you can improve gameplay-wise

[quick birch]

You may also wanna try VBs as a third teammate since she does provide non ring specific lightning buffs and you ideally want different types of buffs because they multiple with each other instead of just being added to one another when they're the same buff

And she also provides stellar drain

[sweet flax]

why not use a supportive set on vbm since you arent using her as a dps

ah wait nvm I guess the other options would be pretty ass anyways

[shy kiln]

are there any other options that are passable? I only remembered gluttony and musician for support stigs

yeee theres just like ogier TB and thats it

[ancient needle]

Roald Amundsen only really, but it ain't good anyway

[sweet flax]

there are a couple of other sets you can use, but they arent as beneficial and if you plan on making her signature set anyways then its redundant

how many source prisms do you have btw?

[shy kiln]

i have uhhh 6 left i think?

Im sure theres a couple of event prisms that i missed

[ancient needle]

Yeah, hold off on Tsio for now then

[sweet flax]

no worries you'll get more eventually, I justed wanted to guage on whether or not you had the ability to craft tsio anytime soon

but since fdd stigs will require source prisms to craft incase you get lucky/unlucky with weapon banner and upgrading you cant afford to craft tsio at the moment

[shy kiln]

One question, if i were to get HoHe would it be worth replacing RC for the astral ring buffs (not going for her specifically but the crystals from level rush)

Or is she just buns regardless

[quick birch]

In a paws team ? Definitely though she'd need her divine key to actually have access to the astral ring system

[shy kiln]

ohhh…thats out the window then

[ancient needle]

And the dkey in question is not recommended to get atp

Level Rush is a very good bundle for crystals alone if you are to pay

But I'd go for monthly first

[shy kiln]

gotcha gotcha, ty for the help, ill see if i can get a vid for my next run to figure out if retention is possible or if its just cooked

[fallen furnace]

Do u guys know who the next limited banner is??

[amber finch]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins

[quick birch]

Next Thursday check #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion Pins for more info

[west holly]

whens the 8.4 upd?

[storm lantern]

#mt-countdown

[wispy aurora]

8.4 ready

for early Character and weapon

[sweet flax]

clearly no faith in earlies otherwise you would've only saved 5.6k

gotta have the gambler's mindset to win big

[gusty sandal]

Should I get any of the summer outfits or are they skippable?

I don't know if they do anything

[sweet flax]

its personal preference, outfits have 0 advantages to them outside looks

though keep in mind f2p crystal income is limited, unless you REALLY want them its better to skip

[gusty sandal]

Got it, I'll stick to free outfits

[sweet flax]

there have been events that gave boxes with such skins before, there will be more in the future you never know

[spring dove]

I don't know much about how battle pass here works rn but I want to get the next battle pass char, I only got 9 orbs rn. Which is better option to get the current knight BP and the next knight BP or just buy the paladin on next BP?

[faint wasp]

how to unlock Robert Peary in the begginer's plan? it's locked and I don't really know what milestone I'm supposed to complete

[sweet flax]

paladin is not worth it's price in terms of value (you mainly get 6 additional crystallum and a profile border for 2x the price )
unless you are in a rush for crystallum there's no need to get the bp, however if you do want to get it do stick to the knight one preferably
id also advise checking the cost-effecient whaling pin

[sweet flax]

unlock conditions should be mentioned, if not, then assume you have to complete sections of the beginner manual itself
afaik you just need to get more of the training manual currency until you reach the threshold to unlock it (most stuff unlock based on total points obtained)

[faint wasp]

it's complete milestone: post Honkai exploration 2, I've already searched it up on google and people on Reddit also seem to be confused about how I actually unlock it

[spring dove]

The what now?

[sweet flax]

post honkai exploration is that the APHO open world?

[sweet flax]

could you specify what you got confused by

[spring dove]

The cost efficient whaling part

[sweet flax]

in the pins of this channel, there is a pin called "cost-effecient whaling" which goes over different paid options in the game including both BPs

ok it was cost-effective not effecient

[spring dove]

Oh thanks a lot

[sweet flax]

#👶beginner-help message

feel free to ask if there's anything you are unsure about

[faint wasp]

I don't exactly know what I'm supposed to do in apho if that's really what I'm supposed to do to complete it

[sweet flax]

ok @faint wasp I checked and some people said after completing floor 10 of q-manifold it met the requirements

in your beginner manual, there should be a tab with missions called training notes (if that was what it was called)

check if there's a mission called post honkai exploration

this page (otherwise check any other tab with missions )

to be honest I checked in the server and im not finding the answer either some saying its milestone, some saying its apho related
god I hope you figure it out because this is one of the great wonders of this server apparently

[faint wasp]

yeahhh

the answers I've found seemed to be a mix of a lot of stuff but I've managed to find the answer by checking the training plan again so ty!!

[sweet flax]

did you find the mission itself?

mind if I ask what the requirement is for future reference

[sweet flax]

you are a saint

[faint wasp]

I believe its this? but i need to recheck by completing it ehe

[sweet flax]

not too sure, but it seems to be the case

unless there's one called post honkai exploration without the II (or just I)

[faint wasp]

it's II if u press the blue thing I think it just didn't fit in the label (same case on my acc) but I'll still update if it does unlock once I complete 1.3 apho

[lime plinth]

im a returnee, i need help on elysian realm is platinus exodus gonna work there? what is her signet

[odd plume]

should work with proper gear, check ER guide in the pin
tho you can just use coralie

[faint wasp]

I did the quest and it did unlock so it really is how u unlock it ^^

[sweet flax]

thank you for verifying

[faint wasp]

up to what difficulty can Coralie be used?

[storm lantern]

finality

[odd plume]

lowest is abstinence with lowest tier gear
up to highest difficulty

[storm lantern]

u can do finality with wang zhaojun especially this patch

[sweet flax]

albeit there's 0 benefit to doing finality outside bragging rights

[faint wasp]

oh oops I crafted tchai for her asap

[sweet flax]

tchai?

[faint wasp]

kovsky

[shell basin]

it's useful for her in abyss

and MA. But ER is easy

[faint wasp]

so she needs a dps stigma for er?

[shell basin]

not really

[sweet flax]

oh tsiolkovsky
its her BiS set for supporting, but you should wait until you finish getting your s rank sets first before making it

[faint wasp]

oopsie I already completed it

I'm currently saving for 8.5 so I don't think I have better else to do

[storm lantern]

just dont upgrade it, likely you'll be fine

[faint wasp]

or should I try getting fdd?

[shell basin]

How many crystals do you have

[faint wasp]

NOBODY TOLD ME I HAVE ONE AT 50 AND THE OTHERS AT 45

[shell basin]

and what one time sources do you have left

[storm lantern]

fdd is pretty important but if you cant afford her you cant afford her

[shell basin]

It's... fine. If you don't have a lot of gacha units it could even be helpful

[faint wasp]

I made a beginner acc and my xtal count is only at 15k rn

[sweet flax]

truly the beginner dilemma

[faint wasp]

I'm sorry I'm new to P2 TvT

[odd plume]

anything is good for her, if you have her gear, use that

[shell basin]

tbh I would probably try to pull FDD if you don't have any gacha valks then, you get a ton of crystals as a beginner

[storm lantern]

well uh if im being honest it will definitely hurt your ability to upgrade more useful stigmata but it could have been worse

[shell basin]

but it's fundamentally ur call

[sweet flax]

technically you should be asking first we cant expect every case

[faint wasp]

I wanna consider fdd but I'm also trying to save for a certain someone in 8.5 ahem ahem cough cough so I'm not sure weather I can guarantee both of those

[sweet flax]

well whatever, you shouldnt treat it as account damaging, its the opposite, tsio is a really good set

just lower in priority compared to other options

[shell basin]

If you're a beginner and you play actively you can absolutely get both

[faint wasp]

yes Yess that's my fault

[sweet flax]

oh ye to repeat what was already asked, how many crystals do you have

[storm lantern]

#👶beginner-help message

[shell basin]

they have 15k

[faint wasp]

oooh ig I'm pulling then im planning to be an active player anyways

[sweet flax]

oh they already mentioned? im blind

[storm lantern]

both is totally doable especially if you're fine missing out on some of 8.5 shill

[sweet flax]

well I would first do the discounted 10 pull regardless, if you get her you can defo garuntee her weapon

and enough time for 8.5 (assuming that it is what you think it is)

[faint wasp]

waittt just one more getting fdd would be worth it right for my acc? I mean I lit have nothing but would she be of use despite not having a lot of teammates? cuz beginner acc and all

[sweet flax]

the main thing about fdd is that she has the roo ring, which means she will be a universal support for all rings (and the go to support for loa/goi rings specifically)

[shell basin]

Beginners can get like 10k crystals from beginner rewards, 25k from story, 4k, 9k open world, then a ton more elysian realm, not to mention weekly abyss and achievements and dailies and so forth

it's absurd even if you have terrible luck

[sweet flax]

15k from story? are you playing in 2018?

p1 alone is 19k+

[shell basin]

25k

sorry, phone typos

[sweet flax]

well anyways the point is beginners can secure 2 valks back to back if they put the effort into securing crystals

and patches being longer than before helps a lot

[faint wasp]

I see, thanks for the input everyone

[sweet flax]

so your goal will be something along the lines of
pull fdd + weapon
pull 8.5 and since its cn ani, if possible, pull a dkey if one is announced

[faint wasp]

a pulling plan tysm

[sweet flax]

dont quote me on the dkey part though, its hoyo they are never predictable, and unless you already have the valk stellar keys are just a +10 atk which is ignorable for beginners in favor of saving crystals

[lime plinth]

What should i do as a returnee? im lvl 80(not breaking the ceiling)

[thick bolt]

To whoever asked about story, assming you meant p1 ch 9
Depends on if you think the rewards are worth it over a lot of story spoilers/not understanding story. It isn't replayable so will have to go yt.

There is an alternative of just skipping through it, bearing a couple major spoilers in terms of character/stages and rewatch from yt later if you need the rewards

[thick bolt]

It boils down to just playing the game, doing story and daily missions, saving crystals and pulling what you want/think you need.

There isn't much value to gameplay optimizations in Masters beyond Redlotus, though if you need meta pulling plans just ask or refer to the pulling pin next patch depending on your savings.

[faint wasp]

should I max coralie's hammer with a beginner acc or are there better ways to spend my Honkai shards?

[thick bolt]

A rank coralie, or next patch one

[faint wasp]

oh the a rank one

[thick bolt]

Only if you already have enough for future pulls (i.e if you're pulling FDD next patch save 9 for her weapon)

[faint wasp]

I see, ty

[shadow gyro]

does someone know how can i leave an armada if im its admiral...

[green gale]

Is everything from chapter 1 to 35 part 1

[twilit lion]

Who's better for Ba dum leader team 3rd slot? VB, PAWS or JDS?

[thick bolt]

yeah

[shadow gyro]

jds for sd mechanic
paws is nice in general

[green gale]

Okay I thank you

[thick bolt]

ch 36-42 part 1.5
anything beyond is part 2

[green gale]

I will hold off doing part 2 stuff, furthest I've gotten was middle of ch 35 before I started over

[amber finch]

cant you promote someone to admiral

[shadow gyro]

i can but i dont know the ppl lol

at least the active ones

[amber finch]

oh still have a sense of responsibility i see

i just completely ditched my old armada and gave some random guy admiral lmao

[abstract sequoia]

i mean I'd decide based on contributions, if there is a large gap

[shadow gyro]

alr

ig i can ask first and if no respond.. um ig theres a vice admiral that can get it but i havent caught them online before...

[amber finch]

wheel of fortune time

top 10 highest contribution

do it noob

[shadow gyro]

[wraith brook]

Slow?
I use PAWS leader and DS ss

Someone ask me to record MA but dont remeber who that was

[shadow gyro]

hm you can send the video here and anyone that can help will respond

[wraith brook]

try to do vest

best, but no sure about opeping and guess i miss trasnsition(pre phase)

1st attempt i have enoug with 3 ult -CA- 3 ult, but now need a CA for dmg on low

[wraith brook]

can u answe for 1 question , its about AO and shield

[shadow gyro]

whats the team? paws ps fws?

[wraith brook]

yes

m if i can i catch the moment im not sure

[shadow gyro]

funnily enought ps lead should be better here

[wraith brook]

But its after transetion, he low amount of shield, and i can AO, but not sure if it good, since i can dmg shiedl and then AO

[wraith brook]

mango and one Yellow stuff(dont remeber nickname) say its not worth wiouth Teresa OP

[shadow gyro]

what aop do you have?

[wraith brook]

DS ss

[shadow gyro]

hmm that would mean u wanna keep the so for later

lemme check some refs rq

[wraith brook]

rq?

[shadow gyro]

real quick

the refs im seeing uses, teri aop , maybe i can try it myself

[wraith brook]

no

nto
sry i dk that word

Don't strain yourself
I do record and guess we can just upgrade it

[wraith brook]

im about that thing

[wraith brook]

do 696

I try another one, mb i dont need swap between AO

[shadow gyro]

sure thing

[wraith brook]

https://youtu.be/TYzpYs-EbMA?si=ZgGp3GqFgsdug-Eb here

same, need about 10 sp still

[lone crater]

do u have hohe by any chance

[upbeat egret]

[lone crater]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1nE7bzyEYm/?vd_source=0c55e9eeea7f01cd7949940b979fafe9

[wraith brook]

no, i need her for Flower

[lone crater]

helia lead fws ps

[wraith brook]

?

[lone crater]

if u run 1 line sp reduc
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1oT7tzAENr/?vd_source=0c55e9eeea7f01cd7949940b979fafe9

use them as ref idk about ur atk

might need a few more atks for each phase or something

[shadow gyro]

oh a ref with ds thats nice
i was looking if i can find one for ps lead with ds but its all teri

[upbeat egret]

You will not really find something with ps leas+ DS

[shadow gyro]

yeah i noticed

[wraith brook]

what u mean?

[abstract sequoia]

i almost feel bad for RS

[upbeat egret]

Why

[abstract sequoia]

for underperforming in GoI and as LoA support

at least based on the dmg comparisons i saw

[wraith brook]

low

[upbeat egret]

She can still top 100 in EU tho

She is a good option if you don't have the main supports

[wraith brook]

sry dont have anything better

[abstract sequoia]

i mean i would pick her up if I can in some way, she'd have value for me

but thats more for p1 physical and her catered dps bosses

[shadow gyro]

a paws leader ref with paws using one sp reduction affix is how i read it (havent heard about that being used on paws before tho)

[abstract sequoia]

no need to apologize, she was hype and had her fair shill

i overreacted at the time tbh

[upbeat egret]

He is probably missing 1 sp with helia

[wraith brook]

why the all ref skip PS wa, and use WA on FWS

[upbeat egret]

Because it's slow and they don't really need it

[shadow gyro]

hmm

[upbeat egret]

In MA you need to save time

[abstract sequoia]

how do you GoI on RS, i never saw it in practice

[upbeat egret]

All the useless move need to skipped in MA

[quick birch]

Ma timer works a bit different, FWS' WA is a suspended animation which slows down the MA timer

[upbeat egret]

Same as the other one... qte ult and sleep

[abstract sequoia]

oh, so WA skip

[wraith brook]

ok but for what we dot that

[abstract sequoia]

i would think that hitting wa with the surfboard doesn't take much time

[quick birch]

buffs

fws buffs activate with her qte

[wraith brook]

?

[upbeat egret]

No

[wraith brook]

but dot we loose time if we hit wrong?

[abstract sequoia]

no

timer is frozen in transition

[upbeat egret]

For AR points iirc

[wraith brook]

oh

[quick birch]

no AR points in GoI

[abstract sequoia]

so you stall it for as long as possible

[wraith brook]

i do WA PS for point

[upbeat egret]

You enter SO after transition anyway

[abstract sequoia]

at least in LoA

[abstract sequoia]

in GoI you jumpscare Sampo with SO

[wraith brook]

gol?

[abstract sequoia]

paws ring

[quick birch]

Grail of Infinitude

[wraith brook]

oh

thanks

[upbeat egret]

Its slower...-3 point

[abstract sequoia]

i see

slower than PS?

[upbeat egret]

No but WA doesn't give anything

[abstract sequoia]

wha

[upbeat egret]

You activate dudu buff with qte or charged attack in gol

[wraith brook]

[upbeat egret]

Weapon is useless

[wraith brook]

who is Dudu?