👶beginner-help

[lone crater]

dont think so

[sweet flax]

ran once with hohe dkey release

[lone crater]

just ice dmg

[lone crater]

yeah right once, and everyone just 2s it

or was it 1s with ds

[sweet flax]

he was ice

[lone crater]

oh actual abyss, nope alr forgotten, must be typeless huodou then

normally dude bio

[vagrant iris]

Hey guys I just started the game today which supply should I summon on

[lone crater]

save ur crystals

[vagrant iris]

Thanks a lot

[sweet flax]

tl;dr as mentioned, just save unless you plan to reroll

[vagrant iris]

This game is a little overwhelming 😭🙏🏾

[sweet flax]

only at the beginning

it gets easier when you actually know what you are doing

actually now that I think about it, that fucker never ran even during hohe dkey

at least in abyss, I think he did in ma

freeze might be more useless than we originally though

[lone crater]

well i just like the thought of being able to cover the need to actually freeze rather than not having it.
and i feel like extra dmg on frozen enemy is hard to measure, but it sure can make a big diff if u know what ur doing
but most ppl should be chasing dorm lvl anyway in the end, so it rly dont matter
but i can see that kira better since abyss gives u the starting sp
but otherwise ma, it def pardo better

[hearty sequoia]

Does these refresh every patch? And when is the next patch

[lone crater]

yes like 2 weeks

[hearty sequoia]

tyty

[lone crater]

but ppl dont do ma so w/e ig and heph never comes around

[sweet flax]

you can tell if they refresh just by checking under them

version limited means patchly
monthly, weekly, daily, self explanitory

patch schedules are in #💁gameplay-help pins, you can see the exact dates for global

[lone crater]

the recent hellmarus seem to take same dmg frozen or not, but there was always a saying about some bosses having lower res while frozen, no way to know now which bosses it was, either it got changed or some ancient boss

[sweet flax]

the main concern with freeze is freeze weather or hohe dps

if you cant satisfy either of the two then freeze has no value

[lone crater]

freeze weather does not exist anymore, i have not seen it

[lone crater]

if u dont care about heph ig

[sweet flax]

then agian, heph is a freeze condition

so it falls under category one, even though we can get technical and say ma has no weathers but im not gonna bother

[lone crater]

but thats not freeze weather is it, weather is abyss buff no

[sweet flax]

it is an abyss buff

I just meant it figuratively speaking

[lone crater]

heph was in beta but never ran live

[sweet flax]

all bosses are available in beta

[lone crater]

that too, whenever hohe reruns its always been heph in past, but since dk it not been rerun

how weridge

[sweet flax]

to be fair the same applied for hofi and other dkey owners in the past

[lone crater]

but anyways, if u dont do ma then basically, kira all u need for elemental dps but yea, since u should be chasing dorm anyways it dont matter

[lone crater]

what u mean, its only just hofi and ely

[sweet flax]

you dont even need kira
by the time you decide to get her to ss, you will have a p2 s rank, coralie and more than likely nearing the end of a patch so you would be grabbing the upcomming valk anyways

unless you dont care about dorm levels and just want to rank up valks

[lone crater]

i feel like it should still be rc s first and then w/e follows p1 wise

s rank is rly cheap

but w/e

[sweet flax]

priority will always be coralie SSS

[lone crater]

yea i said p1 wise

[sweet flax]

even in p1 she is still used as a dps

the other option is hov or a dorm s rank if you got one

either way realistically speaking, a beginner will nearly see 0 use for ranking up rc or unlocking kira early on

[lone crater]

idk, if they got absolutely nothing, it literally dont matter becuz they wont be in a place where it matters to use w/e supports no

but if u are in a place where it kind of matters like u got to 70-80 lvl section and abyss by this point most ppl have something to work with, and rc is support

[lone crater]

idk, for the number of beginners i seen, they can find some usage

[sweet flax]

have to consider asterite cost and time then

beginners lack a bit of asterite early on

[lone crater]

if u purely rush and grind then yea, but some of these ppl alr have a reserve built up

from slacking and just dailies

in which case they can afford to do os

[spiral badge]

i don't think all bosses are in beta or at least in the past i heard of people saying x or y wasn't available but maybe that's been changed now

[lone crater]

nah i rmb them saying that too

[spiral badge]

and let's try to focus on being accurate here since more unfamiliar people are around

so i think it was very fair to point out that freeze weathers do not exist. Let's not be figurative or spiritual about this but instead you can say freezing as a mechanic is still emphasized with heph, huodou, etc

[lone crater]

who did u test kira with

was it elemental valk

or was kira just superior

[spiral badge]

personally nowadays i would only recommend Kira at A or maybe S rank (idr what she gets there) for supporting p2 rots on a budget with envoy of paradise off

but i vaguely recall in some cases, it can still be a bit awkward because having only coralie to swap from the dps may not be enough time?

[lone crater]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1267065291368566806/1401188988957491310/1352732798737186977.webp

fair enough

[spiral badge]

first sp skill is tdm so she can even support phys https://i.imgur.com/SyZd07R.png

[sweet flax]

the more important bosses (newer and related to the more recent valks) are always available for more proper testing

[spiral badge]

it's more just about general rotation and team swap cds and such

[sweet flax]

but ye, the older/nicher the boss the less likely they appear in beta

[spiral badge]

but i haven't followed the convo too closely at the kira part so maybe i'm missing something

[lone crater]

theres not much to the convo, thats it basically

[spiral badge]

oh ok yeah i see now

yeah at this point the only asterite valk i recommend to SS and above is p much just coralie for actual usage lol

anything else afterwards is fine (since asterite value in general has diminished with lack of relevancy from such valks) but there's no strong direction at that point so it'll be time and context sensitive

[lone crater]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1267065291368566806/1401188988957491310/1352732798737186977.webp

[rancid latch]

I forgor everything about game mechanics. What could i do with my chars. could they work in new meta?

[ancient needle]

Nah, they aren't compatible with new valks at all

[rancid latch]

🥀 💔

[ancient needle]

There is some copium about HoRb getting a dkey in 8.5 (which would make her compatible) but, again, it's copium, we have no info about that rn

It's best to make a new acc in your case imo

You'll refresh your one-time crystal sources and get Starter Manual, which is huge

[lone crater]

cope dkey 8.6 or something, 8.5 now given cn stuff looks quite low chance

[quick birch]

i doubt they'll release a dkey between cny and cn ani

and i dont see how CN stuff makes dkey low chance

it's basically the same pattern as before aop on summer mini spending, dkey cn ani

but we'll have to see if they'll follow that cuz longer patches and shit

[lone crater]

ig, but its the revealed info part

[hearty sequoia]

Can i get 24 of this in a single patch? With the paid battle pass (paladin)

[quick birch]

yes you get excatly 24

though reserve work is permanent and if you're not in a rush buying 2 kingt BPs has more value

[hearty sequoia]

Whats reserve shop? And also i am in a rush🥲

[quick birch]

sry reserve work

[hearty sequoia]

Oh yeah read it wrong sorry

[quick birch]

nah i wrote reserve shop

i just edited it

[hearty sequoia]

Ohh

[ancient needle]

You likely won't be able to get all 24 balls if your BP EXP rn is close to 0

Not enough time

[hearty sequoia]

I was planning to get it next patch

[ancient needle]

Ah, fair enough then

[hearty sequoia]

but idk when next patch is so..

[ancient needle]

In 10 days

[hearty sequoia]

what patch are we in rn😭

[ancient needle]

August 21st

[ancient needle]

8.3

[hearty sequoia]

okii tyty

[thick bolt]

going by your crystallum count, buy the 2 balls from the dorm shop if you haven't already, they're auto assumed in patchly income and it'd be painful to miss

(ignore this if you already have)

[hearty sequoia]

I alr have tyy, i got 3 rn

[thick bolt]

there's ~10 days left to the patch (this week and next week) so if you're buying bp check to see if you'll hit the thresholds for all the crystallums at least

[shell basin]

If you can get up to 35 this patch (assuming you have no crystallums rn and no bpass) you can get it with two knight passes

Lower BP level if you can also grab the dorm ones

Because knight + dorm + basic next patch is 18 so you need 6 from this patch

[sick pebble]

!faq

[thick bolt]

you can use the search menu if you're looking for a specific one, only profs and up can use the command (you're welcome to ask whether one for a specific thing exists)

[echo patio]

Is there any ongoing discount events for top-up? I barely missed the 10% off discount, didn't have enough money until a couple days ago 😕

[frozen crypt]

probably better you save that money for something else

[lyric anvil]

Whel for something better/Joking

[echo patio]

Maybe I should have specified, I didn't have enough money for honkai until a couple days ago

[lyric anvil]

Like Lyo said probably best to save your money for something else

[echo patio]

Sooo I guess that means the answer to my question is no?

Thanks for the help

[quick birch]

Discounts no, top up events yes meaning you get some small extra rewards for topping up though the rewards aren't huge by any means.

[lyric anvil]

Knight BP and Monthly more worth

[echo patio]

Well B-chips = BPs, that's what I'm trying to buy them for. I wanted to get the chips in advance during this event

[echo patio]

Thank you 👍

[twilit junco]

do you get these rewards if u get a sensei?
or do you have to be below the item lv to get the next corresponding rewards?

[lyric anvil]

Just need to reach lvl 55
Then do the other two tasks on there
You should already have a Sensei if you're doing those-

Do you not have one yet?

[twilit junco]

no ;D

[twilit junco]

didnt know it was a thing till i was randomly looking around

[lyric anvil]

You NA?
I'll be yours then

[twilit junco]

;0

bet

[lyric anvil]

108754074

[twilit junco]

how
do

[lyric anvil]

Friend menu

[twilit junco]

send id

[lyric anvil]

^

[twilit junco]

sent

[lyric anvil]

Sent you a cadet request

Yw

[amber finch]

erm stealing cadets from me??

unacceptable

[lyric anvil]

You're not NA ches

[twilit junco]

im guessing u dont get the rewards

[amber finch]

i have a na acc (its lvl 6)

[lyric anvil]

I get different ones

[lyric anvil]

[amber finch]

he gets currencies to buy stuffs in a shop for senseis instead

[twilit junco]

no im lv 50 rn
but since i didnt accept till rn i dont get anything

[lyric anvil]

Cadets get better rewards than Sensei tbh

[amber finch]

senseis are just in it for the feel

[lyric anvil]

Check your mail

[twilit junco]

o ur right ;0

tytyty

[amber finch]

always check ur mail

hoyo usually dumps all of the rewards you havent claimed in there

[lyric anvil]

That's where my rewards are going

[twilit junco]

https://tenor.com/view/taiho-shichau-zo-teehee-anime-youre-under-arrest-ova-gif-21342147

[ancient canopy]

hey is there a faq for immutable crystallum?

[storm lantern]

#👶beginner-help message

[ancient canopy]

ty very much

[cold niche]

Does pity carry over on banners or no?

[lone crater]

yes

dorm separate tho and u don't wanna pull rn anyhow

and u don't wanna pull dorm

and th current up is not recommended because we got spending

[ancient needle]

Depends on the banner, on the regular valk and weap ones it does

!faq supplies

[small willow]

Supplies Explained

Hi, Captain!

Please see Professor Lyo's explanation of every single supply [here](#👶beginner-help message) and find the banner you want to know about!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[sick pebble]

!Teammate

[ancient needle]

Yes?

[sick pebble]

omg the teammate summon worked
gotta add that to my notebook

[ancient needle]

[storm lantern]

!teammate

[ancient needle]

Yes?

[storm lantern]

slow command

can u teach me how to 720

[ancient needle]

The faster version is with @

[storm lantern]

@!teammate

[ancient needle]

I didn't get it myself yet
Also wrong channel

[storm lantern]

sorry

[tired olive]

Hey guys can you make me a team comp for miss pink elf elysia? The current valkyries that I have are starry impression griseo, HOV kiana, luna kindred theresa, sakura rondo theresa, valkyrie gloria durandal, divine prayer kiana, and swallowtail phantasm seele

I heard HOS fu hua is good with her but i dont have her yet :(

[haughty elbow]

ta and coralie
ta lead

[cold niche]

Yes reg banner cuz I just wanna wait till 8.5 now considering who’s gonna be there

[slim blaze]

We have 8.5 news now?

[shadow gyro]

no, but its assumed to be anni because of the date
also they're probably talking about ||that new elysia design even though there's no confirmation yet||

[fallen shale]

what's type counter mean exactly

I'm not sure if I should be using PS or PAWS on the current abyss boss

[quick birch]

The type counter effects are 20% stronger for example since the boss is bio so mech chars will deal even more damage because the normal type counter effect will be enhanced. At the same time Psy characters will also deal even less damage than normal because that type countered effect also gets stronger

Tldr both paws and ps aren't affected by the weather and paws should be better

[fallen shale]

oh ok

[lyric anvil]

I used FWS

[shadow gyro]

its like Pokémon if you played it, you get extra benefit if you use the type that counter the enemy
and this weather also rewards you for doing it
but if you don't have an option then you can bruteforce with a type neutral type (no benefit but no disadvantage)

[fallen shale]

I'm trying to get back into agony 3

[shadow gyro]

why?

[fallen shale]

but this weather feels very difficult

[fallen shale]

I mean I was there very briefly then they hit me with the ice weather lol

[shadow gyro]

hmm i wonder if that side stage is passable with part 2 team + rc support

[abstract sequoia]

yea ice weather is rough, not really bruteforceable

[abstract sequoia]

yea, just need to freeze that stupid ninja at the end

[shadow gyro]

hmm

[fallen shale]

I am currently set to advance to A3 but only if no one passes me in the next 24 hours lol

[shadow gyro]

u should be fine

[abstract sequoia]

would recommend Kira instead, ult that mf after evading it for insta-freeze

[quick birch]

Eh paws did really good on it

[fallen shale]

idk there's only one guy under me also advancing rn

[abstract sequoia]

yea but 2/3 ring paws with VBs as cope?

[shadow gyro]

can try to get more score but you should still be okay

[quick birch]

Was okay if you're lucky could prob retain

I think I got like 730-740 ish

[shadow gyro]

what where ur part 2 options again?

[fallen shale]

how long would it take to get the rest of these mats cause this is the last thing I have left for upgrading PAWS

[shadow gyro]

it was paws, ps, vbm, vbs right?

[fallen shale]

PS and PAWS plus the two freebies

[shadow gyro]

alr

[fallen shale]

and vbm is SSS

I'm currently running PAWS > VBM > PS for the boss

[shadow gyro]

yeah that's fine

[thick bolt]

metals are in asterite shop and Hot on the trail event

[shadow gyro]

any more asterites u can get to get the metals?

[thick bolt]

a couple days at max, right now at best

[storm lantern]

also check your inventory for boxes

[shadow gyro]

can possibly do p2 achievements too

[fallen shale]

did that

[storm lantern]

💔

[fallen shale]

I can make up the rest with asterites

[shadow gyro]

sounds good

[fallen shale]

would leave me with only 5k asterites but it is the start of the week still so there's plenty of time works and memorial arena still

[shadow gyro]

yeah shouldn't take long

[fallen shale]

alright PAWS is officially maxed out

everything upgraded to the max

at this point the only other thing I could do to improve her further would be to fuck with affixes right?

[quick birch]

Yeah but u wouldn't focus on them too much

They matter less than you think 1 bio/crossbow atk line on each Stigmata is prob enough for now, in a2 you can prob also get away with none

[fallen shale]

I have 1 atk affix and the other two are crap

ok I was able to improve my score a tad but not enough to get up in the ranking

should at least make me slightly harder to pass tho right

[storm lantern]

never stop malding

[fallen shale]

just hope everyone under me stops playing for 24 hours 🫠

[quick birch]

It'll sadly be hard to find a ref matching a2 DMG but you're always free to record a run and we can point out things that u u can do better

[fallen shale]

oh also should I do anything with these boxes

idk if there's a pin for them

oh wait one of these is the elf box

[quick birch]

If sushang and Helia have all of their Stigmatas just wait until you need prisms the elf box had a pin yeah I can dig that up for you rq if you want but no 2* elf is better than DS so it's prob better to just keep the box until you need something out of it

[shadow gyro]

#👶beginner-help message here's the elf box guide

to make it easier to find

[sick pebble]

hey profs do you mind if I ask about your work distribution
is it that some profs are more expert in some mechanics like AR/valk mechs and the others are better in explaining on the builds like team comps

||and teammate is for trolling? (sorry if it offended you it’s just a joke) ||

[wintry wharf]

what question is this all profs are omniscient

[fallen shale]

what am I thinking about rn then

[frozen crypt]

The profs are just a team of experts you're looking too far into it lol

[fallen shale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fVHfAeyxx4&feature=youtu.be

this is currently my highest scoring run

[quick birch]

you're always playin with 1 of coralie buff stacks when you want those to be 3, you can prob do something like swap to coralie-> WA-> cancle the WA animation with an evasion->ult->wa-> cancle the wa animation with swapping to ps-> WA->ult->swap to helia and do her things

[fallen shale]

cora ult?

also dang this is how I've been playing cora this entire time have I been holding her back all along

[quick birch]

as long as the buff doesnt run out you can always refresh it by consuming 1 Hammering Feel ( the red dots above her hp bar) with an WA.

[quick birch]

actually what's a2 disturbance maybe i can cook something in beta

[storm lantern]

dont cancel your basic 3 with ult
sushang doesn't need to do second wa outside of outburst or the opener, just qte and spam wa + ult since its faster than spamming ult alone

[fallen shale]

457

[storm lantern]

there's also an evade cancel you can do but they're not the most important thing and your timing has to be good

[quick birch]

still like 24 off maybe i can try to cook something later today

you'll prob outdamage me by a mile though

[calm kernel]

correct (trolling him that is)

[faint wasp]

how much estimate of xtals can a beginner acc usually garner? and how much xtals do u need to guarantee a full gear battlesuit these days?

[storm lantern]

about 30k in addition to normal income, 40.6k is guaranteed for a new banner

[faint wasp]

i get why people generally advise players with old accs to jsut get new ones BUT I CANT SEEM TO let go of my acc that has full gear ss ce, ta, coralie and a full gear senadina on it can someone plz convince me in either ways on wether i should keep the acc or continue on my new beginner acc that i made

[faint wasp]

KANBAERUU

[storm lantern]

sena doesnt do anything on that account

[faint wasp]

how so

[storm lantern]

doesnt support new valks doesnt have a team for her as dps (also her dps is bad)

[faint wasp]

are my ce and ta basically eh

[storm lantern]

they're useful for ss ma and that's it

[faint wasp]

what weathers are usually common in abyss asof the moment?

[odd plume]

you can get meta team sooner and wont suffer much in the process

[storm lantern]

usually current patch + last patch is the most common but you can check each specific boss on the website in #💁gameplay-help pins

[odd plume]

since you start from lv1 with new account, can just save and still be fine

[faint wasp]

ahhh now i get the point even more

are pins beginner help updated? im just trying to see what characters i should unlock with my asterites

coralie maybe?

[dry python]

yes

[faint wasp]

wait a minute does pity carry over?

[calm kernel]

yes

[faint wasp]

wait really? if thats the case i should use the discounted 10 pull right

[calm kernel]

yes

as long as its not beginner banner or smth

[sweet flax]

On the main banners yes
Event banners and special banners don't carry over pity

[faint wasp]

main banners as in the ones featuring the new and rerun valks right?

[sweet flax]

Equipment supply
Battlesuit supply

[faint wasp]

okiii

[lone crater]

if u rly don't wanna start again you just spend longer saving thats it

[cedar gale]

Is hercher of the void kiana and mei a good team

[quick birch]

It'll prob work in the beginning but not really

You'd want someone like TA/RC/VBm/SI with HoV

[cedar gale]

I didnt understand any of those ta rc vbm

Srry

[quick birch]

Np check out the Glossar in the pins

[sweet flax]

glossary in pins, they are supports you can obtain for free

[cedar gale]

Oh alr

I havent playd in 3 years is hercher of the void still good

[shadow gyro]

only for the early part

[brittle flint]

guys around how much damage do you lose if ur valks weapon is lv50 (priarm) and all stigmas lv40.... :,) i dont have toruses or prisms to lvl them up

[sweet flax]

its not a big deal depending on where you are in terms of abyss ranking

you can get away with underleveled gear in a3, but might be a bit more difficult to score higher in rl

[brittle flint]

ty!! also how many bp crystallums can a f2p get per season? what about for someone who gets the knight bp?

[sweet flax]

5 per patch as f2p

18 knight, 24 paladin

although paladin isnt really worth its price and should generally be avoided

[brittle flint]

tysm!!!! im really tempted to buy knight it gives so many stuff and its honestly pretty cheap (i also want HoHe i missed the event whwre she was free)

[sweet flax]

feel free to go through the whaling ping first just to see what bundles have which value btw

[upbeat egret]

Asumara is giving whale advice

So whel

[sweet flax]

bruh

[upbeat egret]

Asumara...give me some whel advice too

[sweet flax]

gonna rename myself to whelmaraii at this point

[upbeat egret]

How to whel with no credit card

Whelmara

[sweet flax]

go to the bank, take a loan, go to another bank, make an account, gamble it all on black, repay your loan at the first bank, use the money on the second account to pay hoyo

(for legal and ethical reasons no I do not endorse gambling)

[upbeat egret]

This process seems too long

Its better if you whel for me

[sweet flax]

get a sugary daddy then

[upbeat egret]

[abstract sequoia]

wait for hoyo gift cards in EU

or paysafecard idk

[quick birch]

Just pay with steam wallet

[abstract sequoia]

i used both as a kid to top up on steam all the time

[abstract sequoia]

[upbeat egret]

DE peeps so whel

[abstract sequoia]

i whaled into my steam library fr

[sweet flax]

germans are well known to be fond of anime girls clearly

[abstract sequoia]

also tf2 items

[sweet flax]

anyways this chat is getting off topic

[abstract sequoia]

yea

[upbeat egret]

Like you

[amber finch]

hemlo i have queso

[sweet flax]

oh fuck its ches
sorry guys I gotta uhhmmm... drive to my grandparent's house to clean ye

I would've loved to help you ches 🙏

[amber finch]

check your windshield

[amber finch]

awayns whar abyss biz

[quick birch]

Bita

[amber finch]

firk

[vagrant iris]

Hey guys are starry impression, rêverist calico and jade knight worth investing?

[shadow gyro]

no, but the first 2 are nice for early game

[vagrant iris]

Alright thanks

Should I just summon for the newest valk every time?

[shadow gyro]

u do wanna aim to get the new character, but only if you have enough pulls for her and weapon

[sweet flax]

not necessarily every time, its better to prioritise the newer valks however only if you can afford them (valk + weapon)

[vagrant iris]

Ok how many crystals should I save

[shadow gyro]

if you're still new u have good crystal income assuming you got the time to do story

[shadow gyro]

oh also are you using this? #👶beginner-help message

[abstract sequoia]

Andrius type counter

[shadow gyro]

wait wrong msg...

[shadow gyro]

i meant this

[abstract sequoia]

so yea Vita stomps

[vagrant iris]

I just read it thanks

[lyric anvil]

||Would FDD steal that from Bita?||

[shadow gyro]

i alr see vids of ppl using her on that boss so yeah

[quick birch]

Probably not FDD has her own ignite andrius

And FDD overall DPS should be lower than vita

[shadow gyro]

wait rly?

[quick birch]

She's not that good of a bruteforcer afaik

[shadow gyro]

damn

maybe fdd support?

[lyric anvil]

Likely seeing her specific Shill Andrius

[quick birch]

That 100%

[shadow gyro]

hmm

[quick birch]

It's vita + FDD + hofi/VBm

Depending on the boss

[shadow gyro]

can't tell bc its bilibili

[lyric anvil]

Fair
But it's likely- is it actually Ignite or Fire? Me forgor

[quick birch]

Ignite

[abstract sequoia]

possible

[lyric anvil]

Oki

[abstract sequoia]

you will see ppl run her either way

[lyric anvil]

Mango said no

[abstract sequoia]

not that i dont trust mango, but ive yet to test things myself, would rather confirm it myself to be sure.

[quick birch]

It's also more of an estimate based on what we currently know we'd have to see once the boss actually runs again

[abstract sequoia]

mhm, with the proper D

[lyric anvil]

Beta lower than actual game

[quick birch]

You can make beta feel like nirvana that's not the problem

[abstract sequoia]

beta somewhere between A3 and RL

[lyric anvil]

Yeah it's in-between

Glblul A3 and RL anyways

[dry python]

Then shouldn't there be no problem

Unless the boss isn't actually available in beta I didn't check

[lyric anvil]

Gonna check

[abstract sequoia]

why wouldnt he?

[dry python]

What else would the problem be

[quick birch]

I think he is, lemme test it rq actually

[abstract sequoia]

or are sometimes some boss types missing

[dry python]

What's the problem

[lyric anvil]

He's at the clear bottom

[abstract sequoia]

damn

[dry python]

Ghosted by mango

[quick birch]

that i was too lazy to test it yet myself

[dry python]

Bruh

[quick birch]

that's why i said estimate

[abstract sequoia]

[dry python]

I can't test bc my vita is at ss

[quick birch]

i actually have no fucking clue how to play FDD

[abstract sequoia]

mine is S0

[amber finch]

f2p btw

[dry python]

How

[quick birch]

haven't really played beta yet

[dry python]

Oh

[amber finch]

smash button til funny button light up and hit it

[quick birch]

need to read

[abstract sequoia]

just need to wait till afternoon

[dry python]

It's literally just qte > WA > ult > basic 4 > WA > ult until stellar outburst

There's probably more nuance somewhere but

[quick birch]

woah ez valk

[hearty sequoia]

Does it take long to finish the bp?

[dry python]

Yes it's rite of oblivion therefore ez

[dry python]

Takes a few weeks

[abstract sequoia]

with all levels or all boxes at the end?

[dry python]

Ignore the background it was the only one I had on hand

[hearty sequoia]

With all the levels.

[quick birch]

time to stop slac now ig

[abstract sequoia]

oh that's easily done in 3-4 weeks

[lyric anvil]

Testing with a different team

[dry python]

Just use your brain to switch supports her playstyle doesn't magically change

I have the lp pa team somewhere but I can't find it

On my phone

[lyric anvil]

Also I forgor to turn on my DKey on beta

[dry python]

Turn it on then

Or don't

It's 480d

Who cares

[lyric anvil]

761
Crap score

[shadow gyro]

are u doing helia sandwich team

[lyric anvil]

Yes

[shadow gyro]

ic

[lyric anvil]

Mainly testing with teams I know I will have
But gonna make an exception since this is beta

[dry python]

Wtf is sandwich team

[quick birch]

cora paws cora

[lyric anvil]

Cora Helia Cora

[dry python]

Wow

No team breach in the big 25

[abstract sequoia]

i mean it's actually viable

[dry python]

Well cora has her own team. Breach

But vita

[lyric anvil]

I'm Bitaless

[dry python]

Imejin no vita in the big 25

[abstract sequoia]

vitaless ppl need to cope somehow, same with the tunaless

[dry python]

Well I'm glad that won't be me

[abstract sequoia]

its not me either, but theres enough hofiless

and newer players who wont have either

[lyric anvil]

Starting at the end of 7.9 ain't fun

[quick birch]

FDD vita paws SS chenxue ari regen is so unfair wtf

[abstract sequoia]

tutorial keeps them busy for enough time

[lyric anvil]

Ridiculous Ari Regen?

[abstract sequoia]

i didnt know wtf thelema was when I started

just didnt bother

[dry python]

It's just 36

That's same as teri

Not that broken

But good luck on any 2 ring cycle without it

[quick birch]

could be that i'm just more used to playing vita but idts tbh she def felt better

[abstract sequoia]

hm

[quick birch]

yeah coralie fucking deletes ignite andrius

[abstract sequoia]

maybe i should try with 3* kiaelf

she buffs both either way

[quick birch]

i did it with SSS chenxue just to get the full potential and shit

[abstract sequoia]

ah

[quick birch]

cuz we'd want to run SS in nirvana anyway

[abstract sequoia]

i still got S

[quick birch]

cuz 2 SO cycle

[abstract sequoia]

as much as I want that, I cant afford it

i barely hard pity cora if I whale the highest crystal pack

[quick birch]

on andrius that is other bosses should be fine with just S

[rugged compass]

Does S0 chex happen to have inital ARI and ARI after stuff? For GoI...

Since ur talking about chex rn..

[quick birch]

intial Ari for GoI and RoO yes ari regen SS locked

[abstract sequoia]

yes! 8 per valk

[rugged compass]

Gosh darn it

[abstract sequoia]

no wait thats intensity

[quick birch]

erm akshually 11 or 8 depending if they only have the support tag or are actually GoI or RoO

[abstract sequoia]

s rank

probably what i will have to settle with if I get lucky enough on valk

i got 0 leftover pity, only a few singles on aop

[abstract sequoia]

i see

for current paws, thats 27

or more if you magically find a way to make vita work

[quick birch]

cora available anyway when chenchen drops

[abstract sequoia]

all that for 3 ari though...

[rugged compass]

...so 35 inital ari..?

[abstract sequoia]

no, 33 max

[rugged compass]

Oh

Ok

[abstract sequoia]

and thats bonus ari, so 83

[rugged compass]

Oh sorry

Lol

[abstract sequoia]

dont be sorry lol

you were asking a question

[rugged compass]

33 initial starting ari vs 45 from 3* elfs, or dreamseeker having 50

[abstract sequoia]

nono you got that wrong

[rugged compass]

(Incorrect info) (joke alert)

[abstract sequoia]

[rugged compass]

Naw ik wym

[abstract sequoia]

i swear i understand sarcasm

[rugged compass]

Harder over text lol

[abstract sequoia]

yea a little

[quick birch]

something aint adding up why is cora start ari 108

[abstract sequoia]

WHAT

[quick birch]

ik that paws gives +10 but from where is the rest

[rugged compass]

RoO and GoI tag?

[quick birch]

it should only count once

[abstract sequoia]

oh god, she has initial ari from skills

[rugged compass]

[quick birch]

there it is

[rugged compass]

Oh

[sweet flax]

[rugged compass]

50
83 (+33)
108 (+25)

[abstract sequoia]

AND she gets 20 for free after outburst

2 SO possible without her aop?

[rugged compass]

How much does her so cost

[sweet flax]

roo is 150 no?

[abstract sequoia]

150

[dry python]

Coralie:

[rugged compass]

Songques WoD yet 145

[sweet flax]

oh ye true

wait why would that matter those are 2 different rings

[abstract sequoia]

that was meant for pre-patch

[dry python]

Bro mentioned the only outlier and thought he was cooking

[quick birch]

cuz ari needed depends on leader not ring

though sonque is the only exception

[dry python]

Why would pre patch matter if chenxue isn't in the game pre patch

[abstract sequoia]

because some people are too poor for dragoon

[dry python]

Not immediately after if that's what you're asking lol

[quick birch]

then they shouldnt pull chenxue

[dry python]

If you can't get fdd you shouldn't be getting an aop

[dry python]

[abstract sequoia]

and i dont want to rule out insane waifu pullers who simp chenxue

[rugged compass]

[sweet flax]

solution: pull both

not enough crystals? that's just losers mentality

[quick birch]

what is my beta bracket cooking

[abstract sequoia]

little timmy can barely keep enough for a 10 pull

[dry python]

Takes coralie 4 cycles of basic 4 > WA > ult to get into SO with ds

[rugged compass]

Little breath*

[abstract sequoia]

damn

[sweet flax]

then little timmy needs to go to the slot machines and get jackpots

[dry python]

For ss teri/chenxue, it goes down to 2, which actually gets her to max ARI before her cooldown is finished unless you have sss chenxue

[abstract sequoia]

if only it was that easy

[sweet flax]

anime waifus arent cheap

[dry python]

Well if you're playing pa lp that is

Bit slower with hofi

Since she has to do a lot more on field than pa to stellar drain

[abstract sequoia]

who was pa again

[dry python]

Bruh

[sweet flax]

oh ye, is the outfit banner next patch discounted?

[sweet flax]

planar armament....

[quick birch]

pa = paws

[abstract sequoia]

oh

[dry python]

The hofi one yes

[sweet flax]

praise da wei

[abstract sequoia]

mb, brain only knows doggo paws

[dry python]

Honestly chenxue dmg boost on paper is kinda whatever

If I get unlucky on cora I might just run ss teri for 2 ring cycles

[upbeat egret]

You think so?

[dry python]

Well on paper is one thing only lol

[upbeat egret]

Did you try the damage comparaison on real.boss?

This is what I do

For a better idea

[dry python]

Haven't had the time

And it's difficult to translate boss scores into a simple comparison

Not that it matters

Am tired 😔

[rugged compass]

Sleep tight dont let the "translating scores into a simple comparison" bugs bite

[dry python]

[rugged compass]

[toxic crag]

Is part 1 team still relevant or should I just keep using my HoV for clearing stages (I'm on part 1 ch 18)

[shadow gyro]

its fine for early game

you'll mostly use trials in story tho

[toxic crag]

so there's no need to build part 1 team right?

I can just focus on part 2 team?

[sweet flax]

afaik you dont need your own units for story, unless you are asking about clearing abyss?

[shadow gyro]

no but you can level up some valks for early content

[toxic crag]

any notable valks that I need to level up (that is obligatory)

[quick birch]

Vbm will be pretty usefull for you for some time

[toxic crag]

Vbm?

[shadow gyro]

#👶beginner-help message for reference (ignore hohe if you didn't get her from level rush)

[shadow gyro]

a rank coralie (dog girl)

[toxic crag]

ah ic

[shadow gyro]

also there's a glossary in this channels pins, consider saving it because abbreviations are used a lot in here

[toxic crag]

aight, thx a lot

[shadow gyro]

[young oasis]

hey, is it possible to get old outfits? i just saw the "gentle is the night" outfit for thelema nutriscu and i love it
I saw that it's time limited though😭

[quick birch]

it should become obtainable at some point not for free though afaik

[young oasis]

so it will be possible to buy at some point? do you know how long that usually takes?

[quick birch]

idr if there is a clear pattern for it but for example the spending event skin in 7.3 (cny) was later available in 7.8 ( cn ani) thelemas skind would prob be available during either cny or cn ani since it was also a spending skin

cn ani is expected to be at the end of october and cny at the beginning of march

[young oasis]

thank you!! :)

[olive ivy]

is there any way to check armadas before joining?

[abstract sequoia]

@tulip sedge lets move here

would be best you post a screenshot of your valk list, so i know who you have

i think agony 2 is doable even if you got against type counter here

[abstract sequoia]

what do you want to check about them?

[olive ivy]

if it's actually active, left mine after noticing most people were inactive, joined one of the ones in #🇪🇺-armada-recruit and it had a good 80% inactives too

it has a 12h cd, would like to make sure before rolling more dices

[sweet flax]

before joining it you can see total members and active members

[olive ivy]

where's the active part?

[abstract sequoia]

usually below the total player count

[sweet flax]

the armada info?

where else is it gonna be

[abstract sequoia]

i just dunno if it shows if you enter the armada ID manually

[olive ivy]

but that's available after i join isn't it? i can't seem to find it

[abstract sequoia]

no not after

[sweet flax]

its available before you join it

[olive ivy]

ye that is what i'm doing

i am quite blind so maybe i'm missing it

can't seem to find it

[quick birch]

active members of last week : 83

[olive ivy]

ok well as said

[dry python]

Could always just look in #🇪🇺-armada-recruit lol

[olive ivy]

thanks

[olive ivy]

^ ye that doesn't work out

[sweet flax]

[abstract sequoia]

also the second numbers below the title on each entry

its just squished flat for some reason

[spice crystal]

when will herrscher of human and herrscher of finality rerun?

[quick birch]

they won't get a rerun at this point

HoHe is already in reserve work and HoFi will be added in there next patch

HoHe is also obtainable through level rush as a beginner

[spice crystal]

whats reserve work?

[quick birch]

a battlepass shop for old things

[spice crystal]

ah okay, thank you !

[hearty sequoia]

How much of these could i get right now if i dont pay for the BP

[abstract sequoia]

5 per season

3 in bp, 2 in dorm shop

[hearty sequoia]

Am i able to get at least 18 of those balls if i buy the knight bp version next patch? (Excluding the ones we get fron the dorm shop)

[sweet flax]

5 f2p
18 knight (if you are considering spending, this would be one of the better options)
24 paladin (paladin is way too overpriced for how little value it returns)

is there a specific valk you want to unlock?

[hearty sequoia]

I wanna get aponia, i have 3 right now, nearly 4 balls. But am gonna buy the ball thingy u get from the dorms to make it 6. So i was hoping we get at least 18 balls

[sweet flax]

im assuming you dont care about the competitive advantage from the dkeys in bp and that you already know aponia is a terrible valk by today's standards? (since this is the beginner help channel I just wanna make sure)

[ancient needle]

Ye, they do

[hearty sequoia]

yeah i alr know, i js like the character i had her in my older account🥲

[sweet flax]

then as I just mentioned, you can get exactly 18 in a patch from buying the knight bp keep in mind this is NOT an additional 18, its 18 total in a patch (13 + 5 f2p)

[hearty sequoia]

Ill prob buy a character thats good anyways so i can at least have a character thats decent, but idk whos good cs i havent played for a veryy long time

[quick birch]

No one in reserve work really is

[hearty sequoia]

yeahh i notice most of those characters are old

[quick birch]

In terms of pulling you'd want to prioritize the new valk of the patch + their weapon

[sweet flax]

main reason they go into bp is because they dont have value anymore, though with hofi going to the bp, if some people already had her dkey

[hearty sequoia]

so is it worth buying paladin or should i js get the knight bp?

[sweet flax]

there's 0 additional value behind paladin, if anything the value is halved that of the knight bp

[hearty sequoia]

so i should js go for knight? Am only focused on the pink balls thingy not the other rewards

[sweet flax]

then ye

but do it next patch

[hearty sequoia]

yaa i will

[hidden cave]

What's the most efficient way to farm for coins?

[quick birch]

There aren't really a lot mostly by playing active, though you can salvage duplicates of 3* weapons for some extra coins

[fallen shale]

so are those balls you get from BP valuable?

[quick birch]

Otherwise you can also save coins in the future by leaving the M Stigmata at level 1/50

[quick birch]

To some degree, you can still get some divine keys out of reserve work

[hidden cave]

Thanks!

[fallen shale]

how important is that?

[sweet flax]

from a competitive standpoint, very good

[quick birch]

Depends on what your goals are in the game but divine keys do add up over time and give free atk

[sweet flax]

though to be fair, dkeys are the only valuable items in the reserve shop

[thick bolt]

There's currently 4 reserve works exclusive dkeys available from there || 5th next patch||, that's +40 atk, free double atk affix lines just alone xd

[quick birch]

In niche cases you may also find a weapon/Stigmata/rank up stamp use full but those cases are very niche and there are only a handful of cases where this might happen that I can think of

[fallen shale]

I see

[spiral badge]

when in doubt leave the bp currency alone

the atk bonus from each individual divine key is small (+10). Largely speaking you won't notice/benefit significantly (rank change) from this difference unless you have a very specific situation.

My concern is that they may make a specific one of these divine keys more available in the future (in the past we could get some but not all of them from event boxes. FHD specifically was in a past bp too). You wouldn't want to rush an early choice and lock yourself into a dupe down the line.

If you encounter an exceptional situation then ofc it's fine to disregard the above conservative advice

[cedar gale]

I mainly use hercher of void and kiana white commet is there anything i sjould summon for them or do i save

[sweet flax]

short answer, refer to the teambuilding from the first faq, and save your pulls for next patch

[cedar gale]

Ok thx

[spiral badge]

be sure to also check out pins for lots of other general info too. It's alot though so take your time.

If you have any specific goals in the game let us know too. Our advice is generally meta centric on abyss for crystal gain (for more pulls) but if you're being casual you honestly don't need anything to progress through story and events.

If you have any further questions feel free to ask as well

[cedar gale]

I wana make a good hercher of void /kiana white comet team cuz i like dose charecters so i just want tips for ehat to do with then

[spiral badge]

Those valks are heavily outdated honestly and won't perform well in the meta anymore. White comet is basically the starter of the game while HoV was the very first herrscher when we have many more now. (Herrscher label doesn't mean much either in this day and age)

If you still want to build them, we can definitely help with that but just want to make sure you're aware what you're getting into.

!faq hov

[small willow]

Herrscher of the Void

We meet again, human.

Is it worth it to invest in HoV?

Short Answer: No, absolutely not.

Long Answer:

• HoV's maximum potential: [See here](#🎮honkai-chat message)!
  • Full HoV guide for dedicated fans: See here!

[cedar gale]

Thank you

[spiral badge]

I'm actually not fully sure what a maximal WC build would be like. The ones I know of are really just for memes.

[vagrant iris]

Should I summon on starter supply

[sweet flax]

was it a kiana or hov equip bonus on void weapons?

[spiral badge]

!faq starter

[small willow]

Starter Supply

Don't waste crystals, Captain!

Please see Professor Lyo's explanation of why Starter Supply is not recommended [here](#👶beginner-help message).

Short answer:

• Brand new Valkyries to be prioritised over old ones (see [!faq backpull](#👶beginner-help message)).
• The discounted 10x does not make it good. Only do the 1 single pull that gets refunded anyway.
• In most cases, you will not have the infrastructure to make a good team with either of these Valkyries.
• Your crystals are better spent on new Valkyries: the value of a Valkyrie peaks on her release.
• This banner is only recommended for people willing to reroll accounts until they get a Valkyrie in the first 10x. Ask us what to do if you are interested in rerolling, it is very dependant on the patch contents.

[sweet flax]

either way its probs the usual, high base atk weapon maximise physical stigs and atk moment

[spiral badge]

yeah we can prob figure something out given that she's a melee physical combo attacker

no clue to your void question. I actually need to go rn and cannot check

[sweet flax]

ill check later

see you in 2 mins

[spiral badge]

@vagrant iris this post would apply to you too so give it a read.

[spiral badge]

prob. i'm off to pick up food at least lol

[sweet flax]

oo enjoy

[hearty sequoia]

What is prism stigma?

[quick birch]

every stigmata released from p2 and onwards, you can craft them in foundry from release and they also need prisms to be upgraded

[ancient needle]

The vast majority of them are useless on the valks they aren't intended for

[quick birch]

and need 3pc or useless

[twilit junco]

i go to material events but theres no where to use it

[thick bolt]

It's used for additional attempts on completed daily stages after you're out

you only get this if you missed daily stages before

[twilit junco]

i was out of attempts in timeworks last reset but it didnt get me a chance to use it

also is this worth it?
or more efficient to manually do it

[ancient needle]

Yeah, except Time Works

[twilit junco]

ahh

[ancient needle]

Just use the LITE button in the main menu of that page

[twilit junco]

huh

[ancient needle]

Just use this LITE button

In the bottom right

It does the same as what you're asking about + it completes the other stages too

Oh, wait, me stoopid

Anyway, yes, just LITE

No point in doing manually

[ancient needle]

Just make sure that you've actually completed the highest difficulty stages in the tabs 1, 3 and 4 here

[ancient needle]

If you didn't, then do them manually and then LITE the Time Works

[twilit junco]

oh ive only done time works
does lite offer more if i do other events as well?

[ancient needle]

Yes

[twilit junco]

or just combined as if i were to do it manuallly

[ancient needle]

It provides other important mats

[twilit junco]

oh so i fkd up

[ancient needle]

Ah, you meant that way

[ancient needle]

Just combined

[twilit junco]

oh so its basically doing it manually 1:1 rewards

okok

[quick birch]

is 3* required for lite

[twilit junco]

pretty sure

[ancient needle]

Yes

[quick birch]

okay so who's gonne tell me 12 months ago to 3* all expeditions

just checked all and i have like 3 where max isnt 3*

[twilit junco]

[ancient needle]

Ainnoway

[sweet flax]

🫵 😂

whel mentality ong

[thick bolt]

...lemme double check mine cause I know I have nodes left in there-

[shell basin]

Technically using lite means missing out on a bit of coins and XP but unless you’re a giga beginner this should be irrelevant

[quick birch]

star don't dissapoint me i can't be the only one

[storm lantern]

you're not the only one lol

[twilit junco]

what are these?
in elysian

[quick birch]

i feel seen

[thick bolt]

Tokens for the Elysian realm shop, you buy weekly materials and stamps from it with additional version limited stuff

[twilit junco]

how do i get to the elysian shop?

[thick bolt]

There's a 1k limit per week you can gain of this

[ancient needle]

Supply -> Shop -> Activity (?) -> Elysian Shop

[shell basin]

Yeah activity

[twilit junco]

it says 1000/1000
im guesing that the hold limit too?

[thick bolt]

nope

[shell basin]

You can hold however many

[thick bolt]

can hold to whatever hoyo set as cap, probably integer limit

[shell basin]

Some things cost more than 1k like stamps

[twilit junco]

ahh that means just week like u said 🤯

[green gale]

Is there a version of this Character that is good/ worth getting?

Same with Fu Hua

[quick birch]

not really for both

[green gale]

Oh

RIP. I like them

[quick birch]

fu hua technically has 1 suite that somewhat still has a few bosses but she's currently not available and def not wort investing into

[shell basin]

The best fu hua is Fenghuang of Viccisitude and she technically has a boss but she’s on life support

[quick birch]

you can always hope for new suits in the future

[green gale]

👍

[shell basin]

Rita is even more cooked rn

As a fellow fu hua fan I sympathize with you

[wintry juniper]

we just have to pray for a new suit

[shell basin]

FoV Dkey

[ancient canopy]

do we have a faq for quick expeditions?

[storm lantern]

do 3 each of 12 stamina frag expeditions

[ancient canopy]

and the resource ones?

[storm lantern]

when you get sss you can continue doing them for ncc

[storm lantern]

they suck

[ancient canopy]

whats ncc

[storm lantern]

normal crystal cores

affix mats

[ancient canopy]

i see thank you

hey i've just broken the ceiling right now and the starters manual its glowing and i cant find the why

[hearty sequoia]

what are divine keys weapons

[ancient needle]

!faq dkeywhat

[small willow]

Divine Keys

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Divine Key explanation pin!

Divine keys are special weapons that can give permanent bonuses to your account!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[shell basin]

They’re a bunch of unique weapons that give stat buffs (attack) and then some of them also have gene limits for temporary buffs

[hearty sequoia]

is there a way to get them

[shell basin]

You get a bunch of them from realms of battle and then slowly collect more over time from reserve works and events and stuff

Realms of battle gives one a week until you have all of them

[hearty sequoia]

ah alrr

[shell basin]

Pledge of Sakura is in foundry, oath of Judah is in exchange shop (see mirage farming pins)

And then there’s an Atu, twins of Eden, Fenghuang down, abyss flower in reserve works for 10 kristallum each

Everything after that is harder, tho seven thunders should be in reserve works soon

[hearty sequoia]

okii

[vague lily]

Is the original trio still a good team to invest in?

[ancient needle]

Invest in what way specifically

Cuz you ain't getting HoTr for now

[vague lily]

I have have them all but I dont have bronya or raidens weapons or stigmatas I think

Would getting them through the battlepass balls in the reserve shop be worth it?

[tacit ravine]

is it okay to convert dupes of weapons for oath in exchange shop?

[ancient needle]

That's extremely expensive, you'd need to be buying Palas every patch

[vague lily]

😔

[ancient needle]

And if you alr have other P2 teamcomps it's not really worth

[vague lily]

I have a few

[ancient needle]

And do you even have HoFi's new gear set

[vague lily]

Yeah. The new stellar burst I think its called

[ancient needle]

If they're actually dupes yeah

[rugged compass]

Speaking of HoFi
Hows HoFi dkey..

[ancient needle]

Not recommended to get atp ofc, but you're Breath

[rugged compass]

Yes im Breath.

Your a Teamate

[ancient needle]

😭

[sweet flax]

honestly considering the valk next patch, its not as stupid as I would've called it in your case breath

unless you have vita and/or paws

[ancient needle]

A-rank Coralie shouldn't be too far behind

[rugged compass]

I have both...

[ancient needle]

Also FDD DPS is and will be niche

[sweet flax]

ye its beyond stupid

[rugged compass]

BUT

WS :(

[quick birch]

use fws

[rugged compass]

My 3 WS dps's need HoFi

Bc 2 are butchered
And 1 dislikes Badum Vita combo according to Awawawa

[sweet flax]

oh ye quantum weathers run these days for sure :clueless:
senadina weathers arent all stolen either :clueless:

[ancient needle]

1 dislikes Badum Vita compared to HoFi Vita I assume

[quick birch]

the thing is are you awawa and will you actually notice that minor differnce

and shes def fine in RL

[rugged compass]

It also unbutchers my vita

[ancient needle]

More than enough

[ancient needle]

FDD will as well

[rugged compass]

Vita Coralie Coralie sounds like a good team...

[quick birch]

it is

[rugged compass]

Isnt coralie¹ slow?

[ancient needle]

Not too slow to be unusable

[rugged compass]

Not like theres many options

[quick birch]

she's also BiS on some vita bosses in nirbana cuz she has higher SO dmg compared to HoFi

[rugged compass]

Ohohohoh I have HoO!

Imaginary!

And lv sci gd
All the lightning supports! Besides hotr..

So no trio

But HoTr is 4/4! (Still not owned.)

[ancient needle]

gl finding a use case for HoO DPS

Outside of MA

[rugged compass]

Imaginary weather ? :D

[ancient needle]

RS

[rugged compass]

RS-less

[quick birch]

also what rank is your HoO

[rugged compass]

S2 but i can ss it vita er

Via*

[lyric anvil]

Was gonna mention IMG flower
HoO, HoFi, GD

[ancient needle]

Just bruteforce with Vita DPS leh

[quick birch]

at least not completely bricked ig, though justifying waxing with HoO is a bit of a stretch

[rugged compass]

And WS

[ancient needle]

Surprisingly solid

[rugged compass]

And vita dps

[ancient needle]

No

[ancient needle]

No

[rugged compass]

Oh :(

[quick birch]

Vita FDD VBm is more than enough for your situation

so is fws

[ancient needle]

Anyway, up to you to decide ofc, just keep your funds in check

[rugged compass]

What if I like dont get coralie² in first 10 pull

[lyric anvil]

LoA brute force

[ancient needle]

Are you planning to skip her otherwise?

[rugged compass]

Regretfully so

[ancient needle]

idk your current funds

Well, HoFi dkey is defo not the play then, you're too broke

[rugged compass]

5 pulls.

[rugged compass]

31 weapon pity tho

[ancient needle]

Still too broke

Gotta have funds for 8.5

[rugged compass]

Its ||week 3||

[quick birch]

8.5 is cn ani

[rugged compass]

Ugh

[sweet flax]

when has cn ani ever been good (breath you are beyond cooked if you dont have enough for it)

[lyric anvil]

||Either double S rank or Stellar Key and S rank||

[rugged compass]

I doubt the first

[ancient needle]

Ye, the first one would be evil

[lyric anvil]

True

[dry python]

Huh

[rugged compass]

wasnt like lv good

[lyric anvil]

You never know with Hoyo though

[amber finch]

they’ll just pull a hoo duh

[ancient needle]

Reread

[rugged compass]

And vita

[dry python]

Oh

[amber finch]

make her mid on release and then randomly buffing her to insane levels 2 years later

[amber finch]

(re read the message)

(its sarcasm)

[rugged compass]

Nu uh!

[amber finch]

(also he told you that you’re dead if you dont save for ani)

[shell basin]

How does Hofi vs coralie work as support for FDD, is Hofi even much better than synergied SSS Cora with gears

[dry python]

Insane is a stretch

[amber finch]

i agree, insane

[dry python]

Of course she's better

[lyric anvil]

HoFi is better than doggo

[amber finch]

wait, why did you have to specify that cora has gears, what abt hofi

[shell basin]

Well I could get hofi from bpass to roll for her weapon with spare crystals if she’s enough better but if it’s like +5 points I wouldn’t bother

Hence enough

[amber finch]

just dont bother with hofi

[quick birch]

it won't really make a huge differnce in RL or below

[dry python]

It's too early in the morning for this bye

[lyric anvil]

What ches said
Not worth it really

[quick birch]

and spending 24 balls on that if you're still missing dkey just isnt worth the trade of

[lyric anvil]

^

[rugged compass]

Wait is 8.5 is so worth it, then do i even bother with 8.4?

[amber finch]

and spending 50 pulls for an old dkey when ani is lurking around the corner is not a good play either

[sweet flax]

no clue, but cn ani never dissapoints

[amber finch]

we… dont know who 8.5 is

[dry python]

You get both obviously

[ancient needle]

Well, 8.5 is very likely to require 8.4, gotta have them dependency chains

[dry python]

Eh

[shell basin]

Well I’d be getting a dkey anyway :cope:

[rugged compass]

Then hofi dkey looks more appealing tbh.

[amber finch]

yeah, anything but hofi dkey

[amber finch]

w-why

[lyric anvil]

Dark Lord will be BiS for 8.5 if they're GoI

[dry python]

Actually yeah if it's a grail or loa unit then she'll want cora breach

[ancient needle]

Okay, maybe I used too harsh words

8.5 would still be worth without 8.4

[amber finch]

you’re right cay, its way too early in the morning for this kind of help

[rugged compass]

Bc if 8.5 NEEDS 8.4, then theres no point

[dry python]

How

[ancient needle]

But having both 8.4 and 8.5 would be quite impactful for 8.5

[sweet flax]

bottomline is, unless you are a huge hofi simp
that dkey is fucking ass

[dry python]

Tf

[amber finch]

then why are you pulling for hofi dkey then

[storm lantern]

your mind is an enigma

[amber finch]

that makes 0 sense

[dry python]

LMAO

[lyric anvil]

[amber finch]

8.5 allegedly needs 8.4–> pull for hofi dkey

like what kind of logic is that

[dry python]

Even ches knows it's stupid

And he's ches

[rugged compass]

Cuz itll help out my ws HoO and vita

[lyric anvil]

[rugged compass]

[sweet flax]

brother
world star doesnt exist 😭

[amber finch]

oh thats nice, its not like they’re very old niche teams or anything

[dry python]

Cora would also help your vita btw

[rugged compass]

Oh yeah

[storm lantern]

ohhh right for hoo obviously

makes so much sense since she's a very relevant valk rn

[amber finch]

his hoo: 0/4 s1

[rugged compass]

But 106 pulls is hard to get

[lyric anvil]

That's if a big if 8.5 is either GoI or LoA
My guess is GoI

[vague lily]

Does this game still go by "Always go for the newest unit or the next coming one"?

[sweet flax]

💀

[storm lantern]

no way 😭

[rugged compass]

MY HOO IS 4/4, thank you very much S2 (ss from er)

[ancient needle]

Yes

[quick birch]

yes

[amber finch]

so she’s s1😭

[rugged compass]

:(

[sweet flax]

S2 HOO IN THE BIG 2025

[dry python]

S2 hoo in the big 25 is crazy

[amber finch]

even i have ss0 dawg

[lyric anvil]

😭

[ancient needle]

She's SS guys

[rugged compass]

I had priorities

[amber finch]

oh my god

[ancient needle]

Just not grinded up yet

[amber finch]

nvm

[rugged compass]

I wanted aponia stamps

[dry python]

Same thing as s2

[lyric anvil]

I have non existent HoO

[rugged compass]

[sweet flax]

ye true that's like what, 5 stamps... 5k elysian realm credits, 5 weeks basically another patch where hoo will be irrelevant more than she already is

[amber finch]

kan was right, your mind is an enigma

[sweet flax]

shit bro that hofi dkey looking even more sexy rn

[rugged compass]

Its actually 9000

[amber finch]

gotta s3 atp

[sweet flax]

oh wait her thing is 1.5k?

[ancient needle]

Do you have close to 9k tho

[ancient needle]

Ye

[rugged compass]

No lol

[sweet flax]

so

[ancient needle]

Also, didn't they increase the gain cap or am I tripping

[sweet flax]

still 1k

[ancient needle]

Or is that in 8.4

[amber finch]

yeah they increased it by 0

[storm lantern]

bruh i dont even hit cap now