👶beginner-help

[sweet flax]

only issue is it wont boost ps' weapon active dmg

[fallen shale]

does kira have sig gear

[abstract sequoia]

Alexandria iirc

[sweet flax]

no that's dw

[abstract sequoia]

or was it Cecilia

[sweet flax]

cecilia is kira's yes

[abstract sequoia]

okay makes sense

[sweet flax]

not obtainable rn

[fallen shale]

ok lol

[abstract sequoia]

yea same with her gun

[sweet flax]

honestly just stick to rc

[abstract sequoia]

pardo is a better cope support tbh

plus you kinda get her chakram in the weapon box now

[sweet flax]

actually wouldnt you just use roald asmunden on one and glut t fhm mb on rc and vbs

instead of edison because vbs personal damage is shit

[abstract sequoia]

ew roald

[fallen shale]

roald on whom

[abstract sequoia]

anyone I guess

[sweet flax]

either of the two

[abstract sequoia]

i would get turg asap still

[sweet flax]

ye turg would be perfect

[abstract sequoia]

but in hindsight, see if you need p2 stigs first so you dont run out of fuel

[sweet flax]

von neumann angle (please dont craft this terrible set)

[abstract sequoia]

neumann is okay

[fallen shale]

PS, Cora and PAWs all have their sigs

[abstract sequoia]

M and 3pc is the bad part

[sweet flax]

I say terrible in terms of value

[abstract sequoia]

okay then go for turg

[sweet flax]

wait how many crystals do you have rn

[abstract sequoia]

better value overall like asu said

[sweet flax]

and what's your pulling plan

also, have you already gotten sakura and judah from foundry

[abstract sequoia]

also turg will keep being used in MA if you ever use anything elemental part 1

its one of the best support stigs

[sweet flax]

ye but he has alternatives, turg isnt gonna magically solve every problem, dkeys and units will, those should be the priority

[abstract sequoia]

of course

[fallen shale]

20,318 xtals + 11 wep and 1 battlesuit and 4 pity
my plan is to wait to see if fws will rerun according to the forecast and either wait for her to rerun and pull her, or simply go and get PAWS weapon if not

[sweet flax]

oh right you're the fws guy

[fallen shale]

lol

[sweet flax]

how many source prisms do you have

[fallen shale]

6

[sweet flax]

and ether fuel

[fallen shale]

1707

[sweet flax]

did you already make judah and sakura?

[fallen shale]

no

[sweet flax]

ye defo dont go for turg right now then

[abstract sequoia]

sakura would be priority then

for the lightning gene

[sweet flax]

and judah for the 10 atk

[fallen shale]

so for MA this week it's just
PS > Cora > SI
PAWS > other Helia > RC
Hohe > Kira > JK

idk who else is left for SS lol

[abstract sequoia]

um, idk about PS lead on sampo, is she BiS?

[sweet flax]

paws is

[fallen shale]

it's phys and elec res on the SS boss lol

[fallen shale]

wdym by BiS

[sweet flax]

wait who are the 2 bosses for ma right now

[abstract sequoia]

Best in Slot

[fallen shale]

like for Sampo?

[abstract sequoia]

gaymax and sampo iirc

[abstract sequoia]

SS is Void queen

[fallen shale]

I'm suggesting PS just cause she's got her wep

[sweet flax]

fucking guaymas

[fallen shale]

I assume I shouldn't be sending weaponless PAWS to do the score +20% bosses

[sweet flax]

no dsa jds or fws = cooked anyways

[shadow gyro]

hov is bio tho...

[abstract sequoia]

hov dies fast

[fallen shale]

who do I send to hov then

all my good units were sent elsewhere

[abstract sequoia]

no other part 2 right?

[fallen shale]

yes those 4 are it lol

[shadow gyro]

idk about it because this is a 0/4 team

[abstract sequoia]

oh...

[fallen shale]

and I can't just throw TA at her because phys res

[abstract sequoia]

yea void wants ice and is lightning immune iirc

[sweet flax]

is MA open on eu? I want to test something

[abstract sequoia]

yes its open

[sweet flax]

k

[abstract sequoia]

since 10 hours ago

[fallen shale]

so despite hohe being cheeks do I have a better option

[sweet flax]

im gonna go nude on the hov boss with hohe and see how it looks

[abstract sequoia]

😳

[shadow gyro]

[sweet flax]

dirty minded individuals smh

I mean no gear duh

[fallen shale]

also I had hohe on robert

[sweet flax]

ye but I should have the same stats as your hohe without equipment

[fallen shale]

she's now stigless cause I handed those off to RC lol

should she be on scott

[upbeat egret]

Not one of the best... it is the best

[shadow gyro]

yeah imo

[sweet flax]

how much atk does she have

[shadow gyro]

on pardo that is

[fallen shale]

pre or post stig

[sweet flax]

with equipment

im tryna match

[fallen shale]

I just stuck her on scott and she's now at 774

she's got a lvl 25 light string

[sweet flax]

close enough

kira and jk, what equipment did you give them

[fallen shale]

jk's got ogier and nebulous

[sweet flax]

ogier fullset?

[fallen shale]

yes

[sweet flax]

[fallen shale]

kira has artemis and basically nothing

[abstract sequoia]

woah nfsw

[fallen shale]

lol

[sweet flax]

putting her on scott then

[vast creek]

any recommendation which to pick? i planned to buy starter pack to get cryst + HoHE, and i'll get jade knight around this week also

[sweet flax]

for the moment

[shadow gyro]

not hohe's weapon, i think it's more so on pardo's weapon

[fallen shale]

I kinda don't have a set to give kira lol

[abstract sequoia]

i would go with either jade knights weapon or pardos weapon

[sweet flax]

key of ego is no longer used on hohe, so dont get that
the choice between nocturnal and purana heavily depend on your memorial arena situation, they have roughly equal value

however, jk does have access to nebs from beginner manual, so if you want a good weapon for rc since you get a weapon for jk that is a consideration
better to hold the box until you are sure

[abstract sequoia]

preferably pardo because you wont get any better chakrams for free

while fists have more options and that weapon type was recently used by peregrine sword again

[sweet flax]

holy fuck this is unplayable

[fallen shale]

[ocean kelp]

boys is it worth crafting this for my A rank helia

[fallen shale]

I'm so cooked

I really took for granted the ability to throw TA at my problems

[sweet flax]

no, her personal dmg is pretty much irrelevant

[shadow gyro]

i won't bother

[ocean kelp]

ok thanks what stigmatas do i get for her

[sweet flax]

just use turg tb if you have it, otherwise stick to edison

. . .

I uh

may have done an oopsie

[fallen shale]

[sweet flax]

actually no

no oopsie, that's fine

just need to give hohe her dkey set and use thel sena

crisis averted

[storm lantern]

not doing ss as soon as MA is up for ranking smh

[abstract sequoia]

yknow, i used flamescion/hotr/thel instead

[sweet flax]

btw p1 hohe with gear on supports is a 10 second clear on ss
so idk if an ungeared, unranked hohe is gonna do much for him on ss ma

[sweet flax]

hofs on eop turg?

[abstract sequoia]

no eop, pinions

[sweet flax]

also wait hotr

[abstract sequoia]

ik ik

[sweet flax]

what am I missing

[abstract sequoia]

the timestop and elem buffs

[sweet flax]

I keep forgetting she has those and not just breach

[abstract sequoia]

triggered by WA and going into burst for the first time triggers enhanced zaychik buffs without CA

[sweet flax]

hmm

[fallen shale]

so what do

[sweet flax]

so is it just swap into hotr, wa ult, swap into thel and ult?

[abstract sequoia]

had qte on for thel, another time fracture

[sweet flax]

try your best with the previous advice, keep hohe on ss ma she's useless elsewhere

[abstract sequoia]

hofs eva > hotr wa > ult > thel qte > ult > ba + wa barrage > moi when timestop runs out

[sweet flax]

either way this is just terrible boss rng for you

[sweet flax]

would I use eop wa on hofs since I have it or time loss?

[abstract sequoia]

i honestly didnt even use turg properly

i just eva'd on spawn

[sweet flax]

ah

[abstract sequoia]

so flamescion is just there for leader bonus

[sweet flax]

honestly curious to try this

[abstract sequoia]

go ahead

[sweet flax]

yeye ik

[abstract sequoia]

just be aware, both my hofs and hotr are SS

[sweet flax]

same

[abstract sequoia]

okay nice

[abstract sequoia]

[fallen shale]

so what was the verdict for the SSS bosses again?

[sweet flax]

we unlocked new ss ma strats with this one

[sweet flax]

ps on sampo

[abstract sequoia]

the things you cook for valks you love

[fallen shale]

PS > Cora > SI right?

[sweet flax]

ye

[fallen shale]

then PAWS > VBS > RC on the other guy

[abstract sequoia]

paws on guaymas for lightning weakness right?

[fallen shale]

there's a lightning weakness?

[sweet flax]

paws on guaymas because ps is BiS on sampo and it has 20% score bonus

[abstract sequoia]

ohhh so MA had ps as BiS

[fallen shale]

I mean PS is still my strongest unit rn isn't she?

[shadow gyro]

wait since when is ps bis on sampo boss..?

[sweet flax]

ma sampo

[shadow gyro]

yeah

[sweet flax]

uses paws as a support

[shadow gyro]

huh

[sweet flax]

that's the best run on leaderboard rn

[fallen shale]

well I definitely can't justify sending both my strongest units to the same boss lol

[abstract sequoia]

since LoA provides a ton of time fracture for free

[sweet flax]

followed by paws with hohe

[shadow gyro]

oh...

[sweet flax]

top 3 runs

[abstract sequoia]

abyss is a different topic i think

[sweet flax]

ye abyss is defo paws with hohe

[storm lantern]

no weapon point and laugh

[abstract sequoia]

hohe because she nukes transition?

[sweet flax]

basically ye, she makes the transition so much easier

[shadow gyro]

hohe has to do with the transition isn't it

hmm i see

[sweet flax]

I mean even in ma, paws with hohe works

massive score gap between other paws teams

[abstract sequoia]

well yea paws also does TF on every ult

[sweet flax]

fuck it im doing a 10 pull on paws

[abstract sequoia]

theres just gaps between them which advance the timer more

[abstract sequoia]

you dont have her yet?

[sweet flax]

no

[shadow gyro]

look at the pic lol

[storm lantern]

i thought you had her since you have t stig

[fallen shale]

I mean it worked out for me

[storm lantern]

ig i need new eyes

[abstract sequoia]

ah man..

be careful if you lack crystals

[sweet flax]

nah I just got dared by a friend to do a 10 pull on equipment, got 3 t stigs from it

[storm lantern]

[abstract sequoia]

[shadow gyro]

wow free prisms ig...

[sweet flax]

I got enough

[abstract sequoia]

[sweet flax]

[abstract sequoia]

you shouldn't pull

[sweet flax]

but its funny

im setting a terrible example for beginners arent I

[abstract sequoia]

you are

[shadow gyro]

[storm lantern]

560 xtals should be doable which is all you need

[sweet flax]

(please dont pull if you do not have enough to garuntee valk + weapon )

[abstract sequoia]

its not gonna be funny if you try to do stuff with ta-da! the blow syn 3

[sweet flax]

how did you know I was 3 away from valk

[storm lantern]

clairvoyance

[sweet flax]

WHY ARE YOU IN MY WALLS

[storm lantern]

well would you prefer me to be in the actual rooms

i thought it was more respectful

[sweet flax]

yes

[abstract sequoia]

bro really casted

[shadow gyro]

[sweet flax]

ew league player

[abstract sequoia]

ex pleayer, i quit for honkai 3rd

[sweet flax]

ew no shower

[abstract sequoia]

not even kidding

[sweet flax]

that's kind of sad ngl

[abstract sequoia]

dont worry, i was below emerald

i know how a shower looks

[sweet flax]

ill send you flowers and wishes bro, gl on the recovery

[abstract sequoia]

thanks

[primal heron]

damn...

[shadow gyro]

i wanna do paws fws ps on hsr guy and hohe mps dsa on hov boss but that will leave me with a vita team + jds in the corner for the sd guy...

[fallen shale]

wait is there any reason not to use TA with PS on sampo

[sweet flax]

ok what if I save 840 crystals and pull over that on weapon banner

big brain or big brain

[sweet flax]

you can use ta

[abstract sequoia]

try to mps without hohe

its possible

[shadow gyro]

hows the team?

[sweet flax]

it works

does dsa have her weapon?

[shadow gyro]

for reference

[abstract sequoia]

and part 1?

[shadow gyro]

only the written stuff

[abstract sequoia]

even unlocks?

[fallen shale]

is that the male dreamseeker

[shadow gyro]

yeh

[fallen shale]

old man

[shadow gyro]

the yeah is for male ds

[abstract sequoia]

chad dreamseeker

[shadow gyro]

it doesn't matter tho male n female ds are the same

i just think male ds is funny

[sweet flax]

ps fws paws
jds vita dsa
hohe thel hofi

does this not work for you? (switched)

[abstract sequoia]

male is a hidden +5 score buff

[shadow gyro]

oh jds is fine without a second hss?

[storm lantern]

the jiggle physics lowers ur fps male is optimal

[sweet flax]

oh wait I forgot hofi doesnt have it

[shadow gyro]

[sweet flax]

switch dsa and hofi ig

[shadow gyro]

err yeah the so will be kinda cooked

[sweet flax]

try it with the training mode, see how much you score

[shadow gyro]

alr will try!

for the hohe one do i start with hofi wp or

[fallen shale]

[plucky prawn]

Should I use my 24 immutable on Flamescion or wait for HOFI to be in the shop

[sweet flax]

can also try paws hohe ps on the first to open fws on guaymas

[sweet flax]

priority should go to dkeys

not valks

[fallen shale]

I'm running ts with TA next time

[shadow gyro]

so paws hohe ps
fws jds lp
mps dsa hofi?

[sweet flax]

could work

[plucky prawn]

Only wanted those two Valks, but I don’t know which one to choose

[sweet flax]

but see if thel can clear ss in 0 seconds with that team

[shadow gyro]

alr wil do

[sweet flax]

flamescion is farmable in wt, you'd never get her from bp

[fallen shale]

this MA is gonna be pure pain isn't it

[plucky prawn]

Your own opinion which one would you choose tho ?

Between the two

[sweet flax]

neither, flamescion is farmable hofi isnt there, id get flamescion from the war treasury

its a dumb decision, sorry if it sounds rude but im trying to help you understand

[plucky prawn]

Alr

I’m just gonna hold the immutable for now

[sweet flax]

up to you

[craggy oyster]

who should be my early dps for clearing MA and Abyss? I'm still at level 47

[thick bolt]

!faq fhm

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[thick bolt]

sample teams you can divide around MA

[abstract sequoia]

HoV can use her own weapon over what the example teams suggest

[craggy oyster]

thank youuu I needed this

[thick bolt]

before you get them all you can divide stuff solo (e,g solo hov)

[abstract sequoia]

should unlock on day 7 as a login bonus

[shadow gyro]

are these worth it if my progress is 6 (almost 7) sss valks...
i have valks whom are in the expedition that i can slowly get to sss from there and range from 100 to 200 to sss but idk if thats worth the time, i thought it was just the 10 sss valk achievement until i noticed the 15 sss one

[abstract sequoia]

only for WT valks

but realistically you will never have enough AL or AW to buy out frags for all of them every time

[shadow gyro]

oh im using aw to sss le rn, no use for al rn

[abstract sequoia]

and every AL valk in ER unlocked?

[shadow gyro]

yeah

[abstract sequoia]

dorm maxed too?

[shadow gyro]

lvl 44

[abstract sequoia]

if so, you really only have farming someone to SSS left

[shadow gyro]

so do i sss the old a ranks or wt farming? the latter is news to me

[vivid horizon]

eventually you will have no use for stamina other than expeditions, and you SSS expedition valks at that point
those achievements are something you'll get eventually, not something to actively work toward

[abstract sequoia]

you get xp for WT valks up until SS, so..

[shadow gyro]

hm well idc about the level 45 in dorm

[abstract sequoia]

atp rank up what you think is useful to your account in weird MA strats

[shadow gyro]

oh i see

[abstract sequoia]

like flamescion SS

[shadow gyro]

currently using part 2 valks in ma

[abstract sequoia]

you still end up with SS bosses where you lack enough part 2

like Hua

where you need physical or enough power on elem

kallen and doom are also hard nuts

[shadow gyro]

i might hold off hof incase i need al for any valk that gets added to wt, like aponia, villv, pe, spa, etc unless it doesnt get updated for a while

[charred basin]

The only physical dps I have are from P1, should I start saving for Sushang or Dudu?

[shadow gyro]

neither atp

yea theyre still used but its not worth the backpull

hows ur p2 list, hows ur income and pity, how much do u struggle in phy weathers?

[abstract sequoia]

any you mentioned are less useful than hofs leader upgrade tbh

its just stupidly good

[shadow gyro]

oh well i need them for shallow seq

[abstract sequoia]

fair enough

[shadow gyro]

ill consider hof at least if i have nothing to farm but ill still need 7 valks to sss if i wanna get that achievement

[abstract sequoia]

tru, but IMO it's not worth the effort to chase that actively

would rather do so passively

[shadow gyro]

so better hold it off?

alr

[charred basin]

I have sparkle, Kiana and Paws
My funds are drained basically
I have two left hands and don't know how to play so I just want the better option since I like both Dudu and Sushang anyway

[abstract sequoia]

i'm already at the point of not needing much stamina anymore, open world doesn't need any

[charred basin]

[abstract sequoia]

the p1 open worlds at least

[shadow gyro]

just skip tbh

not like youll be about to affort it

[abstract sequoia]

you're drained, wait for next patch

[shadow gyro]

also new valks over backpull

[abstract sequoia]

if you really want either of them, you have to skip next patch's valk which is a bad decision if you want to use PAWS properly

we kinda expect the locked skill in her passives to be related to her

[shadow gyro]

hmm i do also have spare stamina so its either witch orb farming by getting frags of an sss rank or that achievement so ig ill do the former

[abstract sequoia]

i'm also rather sssing valks rn over witch orbs

too tired of affix rolling

[shadow gyro]

i have to, my atk on sus and helia sucks

[abstract sequoia]

and I actually need the dorm lvls, i'm only at 41

[abstract sequoia]

you dont wanna know how much i spent on helia

i actually ran out of affix locks for the first time

[shadow gyro]

its expensive

[abstract sequoia]

and the rolls are still mid af

[vivid horizon]

if you have spare asterite, can also SSS SP valks from shop for SS arena

[abstract sequoia]

I dont have spare asterite sadly, still contemplating about syn 3 coralie hammer

or at least syn 2 i guess

i may or may not want to prepare to face sprout in nirvana

[shadow gyro]

ohh i do! but the ones i can get to sss need 400 frags and i dont use them at all or their sss doesnt do anything to me

[abstract sequoia]

the AL valks wont do much for you either

and i guess SSSing an asterite shop valk is faster (and cheaper?)

[shadow gyro]

i still wanna get them for the free crystals tbh, i wanna have as much as i can get, and ig for personal collection

[abstract sequoia]

i mean i will be the same for when Vill-V comes to WT

[shadow gyro]

it is faster to get frags but idk i need 400 per valk, i can use the expedition for witch orb tho

[primal heron]

cant wait for time when vita on WT is normal

[shadow gyro]

[primal heron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897744969769549875/1384998477733564538/dance-anime.gif

[shadow gyro]

the world will end before it

[abstract sequoia]

50 per week, so can SSS a valk in 8 weeks

[primal heron]

wtf im not on honkai-chat

[abstract sequoia]

maybe multiple if you do have more asterite

[shadow gyro]

i have 32k rn

[abstract sequoia]

500 per frag right? not ingame rn

[shadow gyro]

400 for me bc theyre ss

[abstract sequoia]

they get cheaper???

wait, you meant frags to rank up. I meant asterite price per single fragment

[shadow gyro]

its 100 per rank, since some of my sp rank valks are alr ss, i only need that much per valk

[shadow gyro]

yeah that

[abstract sequoia]

it was 500 iirc

like 500 asterite

so need 25k asterite per week, per valk

[abstract sequoia]

yea

[shadow gyro]

so sp valk farming then?

[abstract sequoia]

yup

unless you still want coralie hammer synergies or something

but honestly, you dont need them

[shadow gyro]

nah i dont them em

[abstract sequoia]

i didnt need them either for vita dps, it was only really a nirvana thing

[shadow gyro]

im in rl so im fine

vita dps is very rare now

[abstract sequoia]

sprout is next week actually

[shadow gyro]

hm i have 5 sp valks that are ss, gotta start now, still need 3 more ssses but ill let it do it passively

[shadow gyro]

oh

[abstract sequoia]

https://marisaimpact.com/calendar83?boss

right after sampo jackson

[shadow gyro]

ill still be in rl (dont care about nirv) so im more than fine

[shadow gyro]

ty btw and to jicama if ure still reading

[abstract sequoia]

np Stea, anytime

[dry star]

Hi, how do I find the Starter Manual?

I'm level 35 but I can't find any starter manual or growth spurt thing

[sweet flax]

that's because you have been inactive for a prolonged period of time, you dont have the manual anymore

either that or it's been 90 days since you started your hi3 account

[dry star]

Ah I started this account yesterday... but i guess a long time ago I logged in once on the opening screen and then logged out

[sweet flax]

unlucky

are you opposed to starting on a fresh account?

[dry star]

Does changing region affect anything other than region?

[dry star]

Yeah i wanted a fresh account and grinded this one for hours yesterday

[sweet flax]

hmmm, it should consider itself a seperate account from the other region

[dry star]

If I change region it should be a fresh acc with starter manual right?

[sweet flax]

since you are na, go back to the loading screen and try switching to eu, after chapter 1 if your manual still isnt there then you'd have to make a new account

[dry star]

Okay thank you! Man I should have asked yesterday

I thought maybe it was unlocked at lvl 30 lol

[dry star]

Quick question, is server reset time same for all regions? Or does changing regions change the daily reset time for dailies and such

[abstract sequoia]

it should be like a new account, could switch to NA and it was brand new

[abstract sequoia]

nope different #status

[dry star]

Thank you let me check
I kind of want to keep it on the same hoyo account as my hsr so id rather not use a different email

[abstract sequoia]

NA always has their reset 6 hours later than EU

and EU has theirs 6 hours later than SEA

same goes for gamemode timers

[dry star]

Thanks! Actually this works for me im a morning player so it resetting at evening is perfect

[sweet flax]

you can always salt your email

so both accounts are tied to the same email

just log in changes

[gaunt oak]

come to SEA

[dry star]

I may be stupid

[dry star]

I can't believe you're here to witness my stupidity

[abstract sequoia]

the main endgame mode, superstring dimension usually resets around 10/11pm server time depending on daylight savings

[sweet flax]

trust me last place you want to play hi3 in is SEA

[abstract sequoia]

consider this when choosing EU

[gaunt oak]

nah play SEA so you get to cry in leaderboards

[dry star]

I grinded a new account for hours yesterday only to find out it has starter manual expired

[abstract sequoia]

it will finalize 6 hours earlier for you basically

[gaunt oak]

that would be my last straw ngl

[dry star]

Oki got it

[sweet flax]

well anyways

if region change doesnt work, just salt your email (there's a guide on how to do it in the reroll guide of the what to pull pin)

otherwise just make a new account

[dry star]

Thanks much I'll look at the salt guide

[abstract sequoia]

id rather salt emails yea

[sweet flax]

tl;dr you just put a . in your email

[dry star]

Yeah that sounds smarter

[abstract sequoia]

a . in the name part

provider should stay the same

[sweet flax]

so if you have an email, let's say [e-mail], if you register with [e-mail] it will still send an email to [e-mail]

same applies to a.bcde or ab.cde etc...

[dry star]

That's wild and its considered the same email? Technology is crazy

[sweet flax]

the other way is putting +(number) in the email

so abcde+1 abcde+2 abcde+3 all get sent to abcde

I know this works in the newer hoyo games, idk about hi3

[abstract sequoia]

should work the same

[shadow gyro]

and that would still be linked to the same hoyo account??

[abstract sequoia]

you make essentially a whole new hoyo account

[sweet flax]

no it would be considered a new hoyo account

[shadow gyro]

oh okay

[sweet flax]

the email would just be the same

[gaunt oak]

it just saves you the trouble of having to create a new email

[sweet flax]

so you'd have multiple hoyo accounts tied to 1 salted email

which is why we mentioned this in the rerolling guide

[shadow gyro]

i see i see, good to know

[dry star]

Oh nvm maybe I'll do the EU thing I actually WANT my account tied to my existing hoyo account

So that way when I log into hoyolab all my hoyo games are there

[shut crow]

I have been looking at reccomended starter teams but Terminal Aide 0017 is confusing me about how to obtain her

[sweet flax]

asterite shop

[shut crow]

I guess I will wait till I have enough

oh no I could've get so many asterites with weekly quizes I missed so much by answering them wrong

[quick birch]

you can do the quiz again

and the questions will stay the same

[gaunt oak]

how do i swap bridge valk? 😭

[shadow gyro]

go to the part 2 map and pick a diff valk

as the one on field

[gaunt oak]

oh this bridge only uses on-field one thanks

[shadow gyro]

otherwise youll need to switch to p1 bridge if u want a part 1 valk

u can put an aop on the bridge tho

[formal tiger]

Can i have link for guide progressive?

[dry star]

Even I know how to change bridge valk

[gaunt oak]

you havent been to p2

[dry star]

Also here to confirm that new acc with starter guide is 10x faster than new account with expired starter guide

[gaunt oak]

valk change icon literally gonege 💔

[gaunt oak]

hella

[dry star]

excuse me I owned Senadina on my old abandoned acc

[gaunt oak]

now create a new one

[shadow gyro]

this? #👶beginner-help message

[dry star]

That's what this morning was for Started a new acc on EU and I'll make this my new main

I just gotta move past my sunk cost fallacy
im so broke on mats on my main because its a super old returnee

Leveling even a weapon is a struggle

[shadow gyro]

its there on the p1 bridges tho

[dry star]

hi, if Im a new account planning to get new helia and use coralie, is there a decent 3rd partner I can use for the meantime?

[sweet flax]

a rank helia

its not decent, but its the only other option you got realistically

[shadow gyro]

yeah

evantually youll get a better unit tho

[sweet flax]

keep in mind you need to buy helia from the asterite shop, so until then you can slot in rc which you get from the beginner manual

and then next patch replace her with the new unit (more info in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins)

[lilac reef]

Whats worth buying with the BP balls if I got the dkeys? I was thinking HoO so eventually I have the trio team but rn I only have HoFi with the dkey. Also considering ely stamps too

[sweet flax]

better to wait and see if they are gonna add anything to bp soon

what rank is your hohe

[lilac reef]

S2

[sweet flax]

hmmm

have you already gotten the stamps from witch shop and supply shop?

if you havent then there's no need to rush stamps from bp
better to wait and see when next hohe dps cycle comes if you need the extra ranks

[teal tartan]

hello. Ill het my paycheck soon. And i want to ask what should i buy in HI3? Im 33 lvl, just doing story and daily bp quests/

or i shouldnt?

[lilac reef]

Yea I got 5 stamps from the supply shop. I guess thats how she is S2. I dont see anything in Witch's corridor tho

[sweet flax]

there's a whaling guide in pin

but generally speaking if you have your beginner manual level rush is by far the best value bundle available and is only available to beginners, followed by the monthly card

[sweet flax]

need pure witch orbs for that

[ancient needle]

Isn't monthly higher value

Level Rush is just instant

[sweet flax]

idts

[lilac reef]

ohhh that. Im still trying to unlock that shop by farming LE frags

[sweet flax]

let me check

[lilac reef]

I replied to the wrong message

[teal tartan]

Yeah, i have a lvl rush. Thank you

[sweet flax]

ok ye no you are right

[ancient needle]

Whether you should or not is up to you to decide, just keep in mind that you wanna have like ~30k crystals when deciding to pull a valk + weap

[sweet flax]

but level rush is only available for a limited time which is why its a better buy for beginners

since it's the next best thing

[ancient needle]

Beginner income is massive, you'll be able to afford multiple patches in a row without any struggle

[sweet flax]

well anyways as we discussed already, wait until the next hohe cycle comes by to determine if you need ranks

[ancient needle]

Just saying that you don't need to pay

[sweet flax]

s2 should be fine, while the competitive standard is ss+ it shouldnt make that big of a difference if you have thel and dont suffer from skill issue

[lilac reef]

It was SS where she gets a massive power boost?

[teal tartan]

O, and now i should save or roll a Planar Arnament Warped Spacetime?

[ancient needle]

Nah, S2 fucking sucks

(in Nirv)

[lilac reef]

I think I was lacking a lot of damage last time on the doggo boss

[ancient needle]

Get her and her weap

[lilac reef]

in Nirv

[sweet flax]

my bad for assuming we talking about rl in the beginner channel

[lilac reef]

Pretty sure I demoted

[sweet flax]

ye no shit, the standard in nirv is ss2 or sss

[lilac reef]

Shouldve specified. mb

[sweet flax]

hohe has been given for free so many times its insane (by "free" I more or less mean obtainable through non-gacha means)

[lilac reef]

If only I gave the game a try years ago....

[ancient needle]

Who said you wouldn't have quit

P1 gacha do be more brutal sometimes

[sweet flax]

ye no, p1 gacha sucked

literally quit the game until p2 came out

[lilac reef]

actually that couldve made me quit so fair point

[sweet flax]

55k+ crystals just to be on the border of average

[ancient needle]

Okay, let's stop capping now

[outer spruce]

Just save until the next spending event like I did

[ancient needle]

The recommendation was like 45k

[ancient needle]

And that's for S-ranks, SP valks were cheaper ofc

[teal tartan]

I have a slight desire to spend money on this game, but don't think that I'm rich.

[sweet flax]

sp valks were like 21k

[sweet flax]

true but still 50 pulls for valk was unrealistic as fuck

assuming equipment was 110

[dire cairn]

Does Garuda hua have ignite?

[craggy oyster]

how long does it take to complete part 2's main story from chapter 1 to the latest

[outer spruce]

no

[sweet flax]

better to ask that in #📚honkai-lore, they can give a far more accurate time
just beware of spoilers

[dire cairn]

Do her teammates have?

[ancient needle]

Then I suggest you wait until you understand the game more, the Level Rush offer lasts for 90 days after all

[sweet flax]

actually let me check

[ancient needle]

Sparkle and CN, yes

[craggy oyster]

aight thanks

[ancient needle]

Well, CN is not the meta choice anymore ofc

[dire cairn]

Sparkle has ignite? Only in p1 form?

[ancient needle]

iirc yes

[sweet flax]

ulting a teammate gives ignite trauma as well with temp lead

[dire cairn]

Would a Garuda hua with no gear have any use if I have geared sparkle against ignite bosses or something if I have no ignite characters

[lilac reef]

Oh I also meant to ask earlier but if I already got 5 ely stamps from supply shop, do I just save for reroll device?

[sweet flax]

garuda with no gear is pretty cope, if you had at least weapon little joys could be argued as a substitute

[ancient needle]

Nah, just P2 bruteforce atp

[sweet flax]

anyways p2 sparkle does have ignite trauma

[dire cairn]

I remember some ignite stuff being rough to brute force last time I played

[dire cairn]

She does? I never noticed

[teal tartan]

ur right

[sweet flax]

its just p1 sparkle has a 30% bonus to ignite trauma and attacks inflicts 2 extra trauma

[dire cairn]

Btw what's the best team for s rank helia if no ba dum and p2 Shushang?

[sweet flax]

you ult a teammate, and when that teammate casts their ult they get quantum collapse and 12 ignite trauma

[dire cairn]

Hofi and vita?

[outer spruce]

Hoh with dkey and RS

[dire cairn]

I see thx

[sweet flax]

if that teammate is a p1 valk they get the spotlight buff which just increases the amount of ignite trauma

well I say p1 valk, but I more or less mean in p1 team comps (aka inactive ring)

[dire cairn]

No hoh either. RS?

[ancient needle]

Dudu

[sweet flax]

reign solaris, mini dudu

[dire cairn]

I have none of those I only have p2 till sparkle

[ancient needle]

If you have her, it's Vita RS, otherwise HoFi Vita

[sweet flax]

ye hofi vita it is, assuming hofi has her dkey

[dire cairn]

She does

[sweet flax]

well here's hoping you can get a symbiosis unit soon sp generation is gonna feel horrible till then

[ancient needle]

(it'll be very cooked, don't expect much)

[dire cairn]

Would vita hofi have any chance at retaining her bosses at Redlotus?

[sweet flax]

in rl? maybe depending on bracket

[ancient needle]

Hard to tell tbh xdd

It's that bad

[sweet flax]

also depends if you have hands or not

[dire cairn]

As bad as bruteforcing with another team?

Actually would brute forcing another p2 team be better?

[ancient needle]

Depends on what other teams you have and on the cycle

[sweet flax]

at least other teams function, paws cant do her so without a second symbiosis unit (you wont have enough sp during your outburst)

[dire cairn]

Everything p2 till sparkle

For helia bosses

[ancient needle]

Yeah, bruteforcing should be better

[sweet flax]

can try vita dps bruteforcing

[dire cairn]

Ooof

[sweet flax]

kind of worked for me on a bad boss and I was able to retain rl

[dire cairn]

|| do we know if Coralie will make a good team with her at least||

[sweet flax]

definitely

[ancient needle]

We don't necessarily know, but it would be extremely strange if she wouldn't

[dire cairn]

I feel like I messed up by pulling her she seems to work with all the characters I skipped

[ancient needle]

It's a future investment, dw

[sweet flax]

||well as long as she has the symbiosis tag even if she's roo, its all good||

[dire cairn]

I hope

[sweet flax]

do you have enough crystals to garuntee next patch

[dire cairn]

I have 2k rn

I think if I do dailies abyss events er etc I can get next patch maybe not day one

[sweet flax]

new account?

[dire cairn]

No returning

[sweet flax]

might be cooked

[ancient needle]

All P2 up to Sparkle
New acc

[sweet flax]

fuck off

[dire cairn]

Aren't patches and supplies much longer nowadays?

Shouldn't I have enough time if I retain Redlotus

Or agony 3

[sweet flax]

im going off the assumption of pulling near the beginning of patch, your chances are higher near the end of the banner, but then the shill will be gone

[shadow gyro]

should be able to have 22k minimum by the end of this patch if you keep playing and grinding
not enough for 4/4 but is smth ig

[ancient needle]

You'll get +21.5k in this patch assuming F2P RL with no one-time crystal sources

Which is not really enough

[sweet flax]

you'd want around 30k before the start of the patch to be in a good spot

if you have 1 time crystals those will help a lot

[shadow gyro]

if you still have story unfinished and one time crystal sources to do then that will give you a push

[dire cairn]

I might have a chance to get her halfway or something

[sweet flax]

dont bank on it

[dire cairn]

It's something

[shadow gyro]

at the very least u can do the discount pull

[sweet flax]

at worst you'd pull over 16.8k crystals (60 pulls for weapon) so that you can get her and her weapon

if you do end up getting her early

but again, the odds of getting an early is pretty low, you should always be prepared to go to pity

[dire cairn]

I'll just hold on my hope

Btw when is anniversary?

[sweet flax]

expected to be 8.5

[dire cairn]

Alright thx

[dry star]

Hi if I have a dupe new Helia crossbow, should I merge it or keep it? I was told A hela isnt really worth investing in so I was going to ignore her

[ancient needle]

🐳
For now you could use the dupe on VBs (keep it at lvl 35), and when you bench her you can merge them (just make sure to pick the higher leveled one as the base ofc)

The impact of weap synergies is not big

[sweet flax]

hopefully you got it from a single 10 pull, but dont actively pull for dupe equipment

[ancient needle]

And not being worth to invest into meant making her sig stigs

[sweet flax]

only exception to this are stellar keys, but this is whale territory as well

[ancient needle]

Or upgrading the weap beyond lvl 35

Cuz you still need a third teammate for your brand new valk for the remaining 7.5 weeks

[dry star]

thank you
btw I gave in and created a new account decided to let go of sunk cost fallacy...

[ancient needle]

Ye, I saw that

[dry star]

ah yeah anyway it was meant to be
now I actually have mats to upgrade things

[dry star]

btw whats your friend code? the new acc is on EU so I have the invite code available

[ancient needle]

I alr got max rewards from the invite code, it's better if someone else gives you one
@sweet flax @quick birch you wanna hop in?

[dry star]

oh yeah that works

[ancient needle]

I don't need a cadet either

[autumn oxide]

wow dint even consider me im heartbroken

[ancient needle]

Anyway, if they don't give you one you should grab one from #invite-links-here before you reach lvl 26

[ancient needle]

Gotta earn the right to give a code lah

[dry star]

oh good to know thanks im already 22

but im busy upgrading things for a bit

[autumn oxide]

blocked

[sweet flax]

207682567CF
If you didnt already use it

[sweet flax]

thanks for the ping

[dry star]

Ill add it rn

[quick birch]

Damn missed crystals

[dry star]

is the pink bar below Enemy HP bar, is that shield?

or is it when theres broken up blue mini bars underneath the enemy hp bar

[dry star]

I'll put you as my returnee inviter in 2 weeks

[thick bolt]

colored bar is shield, provides damage reduction
dotted bars are hitcount shields, completely negate X amount of hits

[dry star]

ohh thank you
what about the pink crystal looking HP bars?

[thick bolt]

those are Stardust enemies special mechanics, basically once you reach a certain threshold (marked by crystal icon on the hp bar) they enter a max hp mode where damaging them directly reduces max hp

they also spawn more SD crystals (collecting crystals deals extra max hp damage on next hit)

[dry star]

wait my bad is this in the new player guide
I'll go look it up

[dry star]

[thick bolt]

There should be a tutorial for stardust enemies in the tactics class, that would explain it better since you can see it

[dry star]

ty

[dry star]

pulling question if you dont mind
since im on a new account, its possible that I could try to grind enough crystal to get supports like the bamboo sushang (sorry I dont remember abbrv) for paws helia

if I can get her + weapon would it be worth it? or just skip

I saw that a rerun was coming up

[thick bolt]

Compared to a backpull it's better to pull next patch valkyrie since close releases more often than not work together
and since next patch valk will have her own shill period, combined with Helia's potential unknown skill the better investment is to skip sushang

[dry star]

thank you I appreciate it

[thick bolt]

[dry star]

one more question -- when equipment gives crit as a flat number, is that meant to be taken as a percentage? so if a stigma has 5 crit = 5%?

[quick birch]

It's actually CRT not crit rate

[dry star]

[quick birch]

CRT is a part of the Formular to calculate crit rate

[dry star]

oh bless thanks Ill read this

@iron jasper 🙏 Nana can we have FAQ functions whenever you're free this month
its so useful

[quick birch]

Only physical DMG can crit though so and relevant units often have built in crit rate for some attacks

[dry star]

🙇

[spiral badge]

i forgot about hos feathers too. i want to say attacking them gives sp too?

anyway i went and tried on guaymas

it wasn't good lol

[spiral badge]

we have a pin for the list of faqs you can bring up

from there you can discord search in the channel for them to bring up a past time they were used and effectively simulate using them

[dry star]

🫡 thanks

[inner niche]

What’s a good team comp for paws? Got all weapons and stigmata’s for sena, songque, helia, and coralie

[quick birch]

ig you can do coralie and a rank helia but that will still feel akward. Helia suffers a lot during SO from not having symbioses supports since she'll be missing max+intial SP and SP regen.

Outside of SO she won't SP issues though

there what will be missing are general buffs and the 3/3 leader skill since you cant trigger it with your valks

[inner niche]

🙏

[solemn flume]

Is Miracle Magic Girl good?

[thick bolt]

nope

she's been meh since release

[solemn flume]

Ah

Is she still usable

[thick bolt]

at low levels sure, but at that stage anything is useable

[solemn flume]

Ok ok

[thick bolt]

!faq fhm

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[thick bolt]

if you're looking for starter teamcomps

[solemn flume]

Ok ty

I just wanted to know if she was worth a pick up sense it's only her and jade knight but I can unlock jade Knight very soon

Also other small question does the war treasury ever change

[quick birch]

things get added in there yeah but they don't take valks out of it for example

[solemn flume]

Ah ok

[rain needle]

Are any of the old valks still good in Elysian realm?

[thick bolt]

current patch weather shenanigans is kinda making everything good

but horb and hohe still good, don't remember about the others

[rain needle]

Oh nice, maybe I’ll try HoT again with the good ol dodge attack build. Anyone maintaining any ER guides like back when I used to edit the butteryrafa guide

[thick bolt]

legacy builds in the pins

but the weather stuff I'm mentioning is a 5 cost stage bonus that is basically just a gotta catch em all simulator for the flamechasers, valk personal damage/build doesn't matter I think

[rain needle]

I’ll take the 5 points then, thank you Starfall 🫡

[peak zodiac]

U can choose who u use in Elysian realm?

I just started but they make me use HoT

[thick bolt]

Deep and Shallow sequence gamemode

Story is just HoT

[vagrant token]

is it, you take one of each signet to unlock the boosts ? or did i missunderstand ?

[subtle lark]

supplies that isnt shown in the cn one (week 7 and forward) are going to be announced when we get there, right?

or is that already out

[lyric anvil]

When they get to that week likely

[shadow gyro]

that seems to be the gist of it yeah

[keen depot]

Should I get Helia new form or wait for a new person

[odd plume]

crystal check?

[potent hamlet]

Amybody wnna slide ER helia (or is it pins)

[lyric anvil]

https://m.hoyolab.com/#/article/39655992

[sweet flax]

it is also in the elysian realm pin

[potent hamlet]

yea i found pins lol but ty anywaye

[lyric anvil]

Has it finally updated?

[obsidian lynx]

seems like it

[shadow gyro]

4 versions even

[keen depot]

Umm chile

[keen depot]

Check this🥺

[lyric anvil]

Goodness

[lyric anvil]

[keen depot]

Should I get her🥺🥺🥺

[lyric anvil]

You don't even have enough for her weapon

[keen depot]

I don’t even need her weapon🥺🥺🥺

[lyric anvil]

Yes you do
Signature weapons are necessary

[sweet flax]

yes, you do
valks are unplayable without their weapon unless you consider 30-40% dps loss and important parts of their kit not important

[keen depot]

Well I don’t feel like saving 😭😭😭

[sweet flax]

then why ask if you should pull

[keen depot]

I don’t have any sigs😭😭😭

I have dea anchora weapon should I get her 🥺

So should I save pulls to get the weapon?

[upbeat egret]

No

If you mean the durandal fea anchora ...no

[lyric anvil]

[keen depot]

Ok well all the DPS i have their weapons are locked behind Battle pass or Exchange house so ;-;

[slim blaze]

Time to save!!!!

[keen depot]

I guess so I hate this

[keen depot]

Why? She’s so good🥺🥺

[slim blaze]

Errr

[lyric anvil]

No she ain't

[amber finch]

as a devoted da lover, she’s dogshit

[lyric anvil]

Damn

And ches devolved into butter

[opal ingot]

Dea anchora is the best

SSS no regrets, whale for gear too

[sweet flax]

didnt know you built I time machine to 2020

[keen depot]

My preppy characters🥺🥺

[dry python]

What the fuck why are you butter

[autumn oxide]

hi cay

bye cay

[dry python]

You can't even turn cheese into butter

[frozen crypt]

I thought that was real butter for a second

[autumn oxide]

hi lyo

[lyric anvil]

[autumn oxide]

bye lyo

[dry python]

What

[lyric anvil]

[frozen crypt]

Hi shitter

[autumn oxide]

i just locked fade on haven cos o thought i saw lotus

[frozen crypt]

I just locked your forehead into the table for offtopic

[dry python]

[lyric anvil]

[keen depot]

What do you need that?

[lyric anvil]

Does Spork have her weapon?

[keen depot]

No🙄

[lyric anvil]

[keen depot]

I miss Keqing playable bring her back

[opal ingot]

We are all destined to become butter

[frozen crypt]

Butters4eva

[opal ingot]

The urge to play Raven in MA every day only grows stronger

[frozen crypt]

I remember dps raven on HoD

[sweet flax]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-grandma-lets-get-you-to-bed-yes-grandma-gif-6683134261581381982

[frozen crypt]

BAHAHAHA

[shadow gyro]

i take it that you're a casual player that just wants to get characters for personal preferences, regardless you should not pull whenever you have 280 crystals
make sure that you have enough crystals for a character and weapon before pulling
for now just skip new helia

[odd pecan]

Is this thing good if i use badum in ER?

[dry python]

Holy brick

[shadow gyro]

works on any valk afaik
but if you alr have enough dmg you probably don't need it

[amber finch]

old era ches

[lyric anvil]

Wouldn't that be milk?

[amber finch]

i first started as butter smh

[lyric anvil]

Alright

[sweet flax]

the smooth kind or the chonky kind?

[amber finch]

smooth n fancy

[autumn oxide]

i won cay i won

[slim blaze]

Time to some dorm rollsnfor fun

[slim blaze]

Hyh

[hybrid ferry]

Uh, what is this (ik dkeys but aren't they like super rare or did I read wrong)
And which should I get or do I just save the claim

[odd pecan]

u can pick any of them, every week u can take them until they will go to 0
Those are basic free dkeys

[hybrid ferry]

Oh okaay

I need to reread what dkeys do

[abstract sequoia]

a good place to understand it quickly

[sweet flax]

just to add, its preferred to leave the cannon last since it doesnt provide you any gene limit bonuses

otherwise order doesnt matter for the most part

[formal tiger]

Hi guys, can i have link for progressive, buy what to do and build Valkyries? F2p or spend.

[thick bolt]

!faq lost

[small willow]

Feeling Lost?

I got this, Captain!

The following guides are a good starting point to help you feel like you know what you're supposed to be doing as Captain of the Hyperion!

See the channel pins of #👶beginner-help for more:

• Account Progression Pointers: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• What to pull right now: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• Valkyries you should buy for Asterite: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• Clearing up misconceptions about the meta: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!

[quick birch]

for building valkyries it's pretty simple

• in early game you'll use some cope stigmata + weapons but that wont really be an issue since it's rather easy
• once you start pulling new p2 gacha valks it's just signature gear

p2 stigmatas are craftable and weapons need to be obtained by gacha

and signature weapons are NOT negotiobale here

[sharp kestrel]

Is it always necessary to clear in corruption for 20k points?
Not sure if that’s worth it or not to do weekly
First time I clear abstinence since starting

[thick bolt]

for 20k need corruption clear
max crystal rewards is abstinence, corruption is just for the emblem

[craggy oyster]

should I craft Coralie's Stigs or Maxed Out my stigs for PAWS? although I don't have her weapon but I could get it

[thick bolt]

max stigs (if already owned), get weapon
can skip coralie stigs, it's a mat sink for relatively new accounts

[craggy oyster]

aight thank youuu

[sharp kestrel]

Alright, guess I’ll just keep doing abstinence then
Should get even easier once I max out stigmata and weapon on peregrine sword

[storm lantern]

beginners cant bench coralie until 8.5 i would craft her stigs on a new account

[fallen shale]

Why 8.5 in particular?

[storm lantern]

thats the second new release after this patch

could be later if you're unlucky

[fallen shale]

Oh you mean if they started literally this patch?

[storm lantern]

yeah

[fallen shale]

As in until you have three current units

[forest snow]

helo i wanna ask
so I just ask party lineup before at somewhere for long term, but then someone said i should pull part 2. then i see the banner now is helio is that good for me? then how to spend my stamina my story now at otto and it dont know how to spend

[storm lantern]

how did you get hofi does this account have starter manual

[sweet flax]

7.8 spending returnee? Otherwise when was the last foca banner lmfao

[storm lantern]

for stamina check out the pin, helia is good if you can afford her and new releases but if you're low on xtals on a returnee account it might be better to skip and try to pick up three back to back releases

ideally restart but some people are really against that idea

[sweet flax]

To be quite frank with you, you have nothing available long term at all

How many crystals do you already have on this account

[storm lantern]

pity would be good to know as well if you have any

[outer spruce]

was this account made when hofi was in starter supply

[forest snow]

around 5000, i have retunee event

[forest snow]

alr

[sweet flax]

returnee event is not very incentivising (lowest amount of rewards you can possibly get for how long you need to be inactive)
as mentioned earlier, if you are fine with restarting that's always the best course of action to take here (all your units are farmable outside of hofi, but she will be obtainable through other means in the future as well)

[forest snow]

alr ill restart from scartch

but who should i invest?

[sweet flax]

ill link you an faq with some beginner teams to get a fair idea of what units are useful, as for how you use your crystals, the priority should go to paws (new helia) and her weapon

[sweet flax]

most of these units you get for free, the only ones you would want to go out of your way to obtain is helia (vbs) and prometheus (ta) from the asterite shop

[storm lantern]

i'd also reccommend checking out the rerolling information pin and see if that's something you're interested in, not at all necessary though

[forest snow]

thx

[forest snow]

ok

[fervent furnace]

I recall there being a guide to the exchange shop & what to get in there. I specifically remember Mei Beach being recommended. The guide is not in pins & I am trying to decide between getting the last Magrave I'm missing, starting the Benares set for HoT, or getting the last Nuwa (T) I'm missing for Nuwa set

Basically, are there any notable stigmas worth buying that are general-purpose? Or anything to prioritize in terms of part 1 sets? I know most of part 1 is out of meta, but I was hoping to complete HoF/AE/whoever trials

[sweet flax]

ye, the ones that were actively recommended at the time were judah (dkey, still the prioity from exchange) and for stigmatas, mei beach m and newt b, but nowadays these are less impactful so there isnt a need to go out of your way to get these stigmatas

anything else you'd get from exchange is heavily account dependant, but its best to prioritize gear that can aid you in ma

also, hot no longer uses benares, she uses handel with her dkey (in the case that hot is use, her uses cases are non-existant nowadays outside the armada sim battle)

[frozen crypt]

Main issue is reso takes so long to get these days that by the time you have enough to buy a stig its account dependant

[fervent furnace]

I don't have enough weapon resonance, just stigma resonance for one. Sorry should have clarified earlier, but good to know in the case I get enough. Noted on Benares

HoT consideration was only for buying her stamps in ER since she barely survives shroud with Darwin + Dkey

[sweet flax]

darwin is a terrible set, literally any other set will yield better results, even edison

also, if you cant clear shroud while having 7t equipped, its more likely than not a signet issue

[fervent furnace]

Yea it takes way too long 😩
The only way I get pt 1 stigmas from gacha is dorm supply right?

[fervent furnace]

...this is what I get for following the loadout guide

[frozen crypt]

Yeah in game recs are dogshit

[sweet flax]

dorm supply doesnt give any good stigmatas

the only way to get actual p1 stigmatas that have any value is through foundry or exchange

both take a lot of time, and is heavily account dependant

[frozen crypt]

It does have newt b and ppm

[sweet flax]

o

but that's rng upon rng

[frozen crypt]

Its just extremely rare to get equipment, nevermind good equipment

So yeah pulling dorm for p1 equipment would be giga stupid

[fervent furnace]

Dw I'm waiting on spending event to pull on standard

[frozen crypt]

And the "good equipment" I am referring to here is niche at best bc its not ALL p1 equipment just old shit

[sweet flax]

dont mistake dorm banner for standard banner, standard banners in other games actually have useful stuff

[frozen crypt]

Fenrysk got xy sword from dorm

[sweet flax]

[fervent furnace]

Is Nuwa T worth to complete Nuwa set? I know Nuwa M was OP (still is for pt 1?)

[frozen crypt]

Nah nuwa m is dead now

Nuwa T I've never heard of a use case for

[sweet flax]

was nuwa the ignite set?

[frozen crypt]

If you have nuwa m keep it but don't try to get it

[fervent furnace]

Yarr, M was the 1%+ every combo hit up to 60

[frozen crypt]

You never know what bs will come back

[sweet flax]

or was that just nuwa t

[frozen crypt]

Idfk nuwa m was giga fire buffs or something

I remember nuwa m fs

[sweet flax]

ye nuwa m was 102% fire dmg bonus depending on combo counter

[fervent furnace]

Wait so what's the rec'd HoO set without BiS stigmas?

I put her on Darwin 😩

[sweet flax]

depends if you are using hoo as a dps or in trio with hofi

again, darwin is shit never use it

[fervent furnace]

If I use as trio, what should it be?
I may just as well salvage Darwin

[sweet flax]

if you have aslaug that's an option for boosting hofi's dmg

do you have none of hoo's signature stigs?

[fervent furnace]

I have this set, no set name

None at all, & no Aslaugs either

[sweet flax]

any benares pieces?

[fervent furnace]

Nope :(

[sweet flax]

turg?

[fervent furnace]

Nope 😩

I started really playing when adult Griseo was out

[sweet flax]

ye then hoo's cooked anyways, crafting turg is an option that set is really good

does hofi have her dkey?

[fervent furnace]

Yes

[sweet flax]

then it remains an option

[fervent furnace]

HoFi is 4/4, HoTr is 3/4 (missing M), & HoO is 1/4

Alright thank you 🙏

What about Irene Adler set? Is that good on anyone?

[sweet flax]

I think tb 2 piece is used in some strats, but that might not be the case anymore

honestly im not too sure atp

[fervent furnace]

What's the non-BiS set if HoO is DPS?

[sweet flax]

well since you dont have her signature, the next best thing is handel

or zhenyi tb schro m

[charred matrix]

why is this still locked, I already did the special attack tutorial

[fervent furnace]

What happens if you tap training stage?

I know there's like a message that appears in some cases that says how to unlock

[charred matrix]

nothing pops up

[thick bolt]

just to check, do you have the qte skill unlocked?

[peak zodiac]

What’re the best buffs I should choose?

Using helia btw

[thick bolt]

double 15

[charred matrix]

shieee that might be it, she's level 1 lol

[fervent furnace]

Is Schro craftable? I found Schro: Tour, but not Schro by itself

[sweet flax]

schrodinger is from exchange

[fervent furnace]

Oooo I see, thank you again

[charred matrix]

It's open now, thanks

[quick birch]

Iirc you already have some benares pieces ? Which exactly?

[fervent furnace]

I don't have any benares unfortunately

Does Elysian Paragon set work on HoO &/or HoT?

[peak zodiac]

How about the score?

[thick bolt]

2.5x if you're going for emblem
2.25x for max crystals

just in case complete her shallow sequence first to increase her ER level
makes clears easier

[peak zodiac]

I just started so I haven’t finished the flame chaser trials to do so yet

Appreciate it imma give it a go

[thick bolt]

If you've finished chap 1 of ER you can switch to it so it allows you to do stuff without storylock

[upbeat egret]

Why schro m?

Schro m is only for some special strat tho

You will just miss billion damage with it

[sweet flax]

ah

[upbeat egret]

And you will deal with the ult reset cd

S0 hoo will do 0 damage with it

If the boss is not IMG ..using schro M is a bit useless

[fervent furnace]

Noted, TYTY

This is my first time finding this & there’s no results when searching it up. What are automata workpieces in ER?

[glad ice]

automata workpiece is the currency in that specific stage. u have 80sec(or 90) to kill enemies to get them and then buy random buff with them, in the same stage

[fervent furnace]

Interesting, I've never had this option before. How do I know what the buff is?

'Cause I tried buying one, but there was no popup or anything that indicated it did anything

[glad ice]

usually it will pop up when u click "buy"

imagine it as another Pardofelis' jackpot machine

[fervent furnace]

Ngl I do not pay attention to stage buffs too much. Thanks again 🙏

It just didn't say what I got, so I got mega confused

[glad ice]

yeah if u get some silver coin it will pop up and pop out real fast

did u ever try Pardofelis' jackpot machine?

[fervent furnace]

I don't think I have?

[fervent furnace]

Best Dreamweaver skin
But OOO I see, I'm presuming this is a core?

[sweet flax]

no its one of the sigils

[glad ice]

heh, my favorite set up to earn 6000+ coins and buy every signets in the shop lol

[fervent furnace]

Is it enhanced? I wanna gamble in ER also :(

[fervent furnace]

That's a challenge for me, challenge accepted
I want to figure out how to do that

Do you always win something in jackpot?

[outer spruce]

sigils are the items you pick before the run

[fervent furnace]

Oh wait I misread nvm, ty

[sweet flax]

you are confusing signets and sigils

signets are the buffs you get after clearing every floor and from pardo shop
sigils are the 2 items you can pick, the 2nd category of sigils has active abilities corresponding to each flamechaser, pardo's is the lottery machine

[glad ice]

normally i will reset until i get +200. +999 is best

or skip if there is 1 ely signet at stage1

[fervent furnace]

Pardo's gonna be my next run, signet farming would be fun

[fervent furnace]

Wait wdym skip?

[glad ice]

elysia signet is better start than some coin

i meant skip gambling if u see elysia signet in 1 of the 3 gates

and the secret of money farming is pardo and susannah have 1 elysia signet that give money

[sweet flax]

huge

[prisma fiber]

Other than HoHe n Sushang,who else I can use for PAWS?

[ancient needle]

Badum and RS

Vita, HoFi and Coralie as filler slots

[prisma fiber]

ok I forgot to *as in 3rd slot

[ancient needle]

Badum > RS > Vita > HoFi ≈ Coralie

[prisma fiber]

What’s RS

[glad ice]

lolidudu

[prisma fiber]

Vita doesn’t s seems to regenerate SP

[sweet flax]

because she doesnt have the symbiosis tag

[ancient needle]

Only PAWS, Badum, Sushang, HoHE and RS have it

[sweet flax]

she's there because roo is a filler ring (can support all rings with their buffs, but not directly contributing to the ring)

until you can replace her with a unit who has the symbiosis tag

[prisma fiber]

I don’t have anyone but Badum

And clearly she’s on another team

So do Hohe

[fervent furnace]

305 0_0

Did you one shot the enemies there or something & that's how you got so much?

The last couple of abysses are making me regret not getting Sushang