👶beginner-help

[quick birch]

should be tbh badum is pretty fast in WS and if teri and sparkle are used alongside each other its mostly for more collapse and teri lead most of the time

[haughty elbow]

i really cant tell if wod with weaponless sena or world star is better

both are completely ass

[urban lake]

yeah makes sense, I'll try

any rot?

or advice at all?

[quick birch]

uhh no idea about thele in WS i dont have her but badum is pretty simple just qte in WA and out

[urban lake]

yeah

ok then thel usual combo then

what abt sparkle tho?

idk wht to do when she leader

[haughty elbow]

no vita dps right

[urban lake]

no BITA at all

[haughty elbow]

she kills mobs pretty fast

[urban lake]

ignore my name

well I dont have her do I?

[haughty elbow]

do u have any p1 teams

eh probably wont help anyways

[urban lake]

ok WS is way worse, still stuch at first stage at 750 score

[rotund pasture]

Is this team acceptable for MA 2nd boss?

[haughty elbow]

what the hotr doing

[thorn oxide]

is dudu worth getting?

[haughty elbow]

u could probably just stick with trio for a still decent score

[haughty elbow]

no

[quick birch]

no, she's a backpull which is generally not recommended

[thorn oxide]

even if i have fws?

[haughty elbow]

the issue isnt if they are good or not but ur ruining ur crystal count for future releases

[rotund pasture]

idk

[thorn oxide]

i see

[rotund pasture]

okay

[quick birch]

its still a backpull so yes still not really worth it, if you have enough crystals for a valk just go for shushang in 8.2. Shes physical as well and bleed is arguably harder to brute force than img content

[urban lake]

cant get better than 382

[quick birch]

[urban lake]

some guy in my bracket

teri op on thel

[quick birch]

why do you have 2/3 vita stigs 😭

[urban lake]

SS DS where?

[urban lake]

no clue lmao

I dont remeber pulling?

[quick birch]

[urban lake]

maybe I did on wp for some reason idk

welp, extra prisms

[haughty elbow]

why would they use ds if they have teri

[urban lake]

teri on WoD?

[haughty elbow]

yeah

[urban lake]

SS DS should be better tho?

[haughty elbow]

no

[urban lake]

no?

what how, explain

actually tell

star

can u tell

[haughty elbow]

read the buffs

[quick birch]

the only thing that teri has over SS DS is initial ari is like 8 in here or am i misremembering, dmg wise they are like ~1% apart with SS DS being a bit higher iirc the stats right from wyverein

[thick bolt]

SS DS:
12% tdm
7% tdm in SO

S Teri:
12% ele dmg 5% tdm in SO
+8 initial ari cause using Vita

^^ for WoD

[quick birch]

isnt it 10% tdm for SS DS there are 7% in one of her skills and 3% in the AR charging state skill

[thick bolt]

wording was increases so me confused

[quick birch]

ah

nvm just cant read lol

gacha player

[urban lake]

no Bita

so who better

DS or teri?

[thick bolt]

I was referring to this team

[urban lake]

refer to thel/sena/teri

[thick bolt]

raw buffs DS is a bit higher, but the difference is so negligible that it doesn't matter which of the 2 you use

[urban lake]

eh I'll use SS DS

thnx anyway

[solar drum]

is the current event worth doing without starting part 2

[thick bolt]

Which one? There are 2 running, Luna event and the Kiana wish event

Both don't need part 2 knowledge

[solar drum]

the kiana wish event

[thick bolt]

you're in the clear then

[solar drum]

oh do i need to know anything from part 1.5?

[thick bolt]

Character spoilers

otherwise I don't remember any plot drops

[solar drum]

the wish event is a reunion type of event right

so certain suit characters appear i guess?

[thick bolt]

yeah, a couple characters/battlesuits that got introduced or showed up in p1.5

[lilac reef]

Why does this stage buff type countering then has a PSY valk as leader in recommended?

[urban lake]

can you help me with this team

I cant get higher than 382

in RL

[haughty elbow]

s2 thelema

[urban lake]

yes

[quick birch]

its hoyo never trust the ingame recommendations tbh

[urban lake]

[urban lake]

WTH GIMMIE THAT DIST

[outer spruce]

nah bro just use this recommended team against aponia

[urban lake]

[lilac reef]

Weird... So does PSY fair better than MECH in this stage?

[quick birch]

the fact that they updated it with TA

[thick bolt]

haven't done boss yet, I'll let you know score when I try the team

[urban lake]

all of these recommendations are eiter outdated or just plain wrong, just ask in help channels xd

[urban lake]

ok xd

apop neglected

[haughty elbow]

u need gear not disturbance

[urban lake]

[urban lake]

no Hotr stigs

wth do I do

[lilac reef]

Yea but Im wondering how the type counter works ex. PSY valk against PSY enemy

[haughty elbow]

try again next year

[quick birch]

you just deal your normal dmg nothing changes, if you are type countered the type counter effect will get stronger so you just deal less dmg than normal

[urban lake]

[lilac reef]

Ok thanks, that answers my question

[urban lake]

well I'll retain anyway

atleast I tried, now I'll wait for star tomorrow and mals then ig?

it 3 am now xd

would you look at that

free xtals

[quick birch]

do your shallow sequence

[urban lake]

forgor

imma do it now

[dusky hazel]

for vita dps team, is it still coralie the best 3rd slot after hofi?

[outer spruce]

yes

[dusky hazel]

ok ty

[quick birch]

Vita DPS team won't change until we get another RoO char because of her passive

[runic canopy]

None comes close to the 2.

Except if you are pinned in bleeding team where you have to use Luna support instead of Coralie in Vita team.

[quick birch]

This is the passive im talking about

[wooden idol]

can i use Songque for this? Who else works?

[haughty elbow]

sure but dudu is better

[lyric anvil]

It's a pain without a Phys Valk that isn't PSY

[haughty elbow]

dont worry horb cant dps even if theres no typing issue

[naive pivot]

it's aponia, nobody can DPS unless it's hare

[lyric anvil]

Gonna just deal with what score I have right now then

[haughty elbow]

delulu

dudu is actually way better than expected

[naive pivot]

[dapper axle]

I have been stuck on the zenith of new wishes stage 5
I keep losing in the 9th round ALWAYS 0 vs. 11 (the score)
I tried restarting from round 7 but

Is there a specific fate bond I should focus on?

[haughty elbow]

honkai disaster

[dapper axle]

Oh

I have been trying to do it with St.Freya

But for some reason I would keep choosing Kevin & Einstein alongside them www

Thank you

[honest sparrow]

Hi! I'm new to Honkai Impact and which Valkyrie is good with Kiana: Shower of fortune (B)?

[runic canopy]

Can you show which is that?
I think it's an event stigma.

[runic canopy]

Yep, event stigma. Barely usable on anyone.

[honest sparrow]

Well.. I have it currently equipped on casual Kiana since I don't really know how stigmatas works.

[runic canopy]

Is this the Kiana with the same battlesuit with the stigma you show? Sorry I'm unusually slow, can't open the game yet

[dapper axle]

Um who should I include alongside them…? Since I already got the 7th fate bond and there are still spots

[honest sparrow]

I meant was the Kiana we get when we join Honkai Impact

[runic canopy]

Ohh. Hmm, you can stick with the stigma the game have you equip on for default.
Don't worry too much about the particular battlesuit, as soon as you get another battlesuit you will use others.

As to how stigma works, I think pinned message guides could help you. Ask here otherwise if you still don't understand!

I'll take my leave for now

[honest sparrow]

Thank you!

[runic canopy]

Also on this one, get the highest quality chibis as possible.
HoV ideally would be the best but... highly RNG i know...

[dapper axle]

Yeah I have her there all the time
Her or/and Luna

Oh so…Honkai disaster and high quality ones?

WOAAAH I REACHED ROUND 10 WITHOUT REALIZING IT!
Omg who knew the little mechas were that useful…

[wanton canopy]

Honkai disaster + herscher

[amber swift]

Is ai Chan pronounced as AI like artificial intelligence Chan or eye Chan

[wanton canopy]

Yeah eye Chan seems like it when you do the shicksal open world

Ai Chan beeeeemu

[dapper axle]

Oh okie ^^
Thank you all once again

[wanton canopy]

HoV + herscher build = tons of hit shield for your main dps (honkai disaster favors survivability since it's damage mainly comes from the gimmick honkai orbs iirc)

[dapper axle]

Yeah survivability is definitely the most important

Wow having an S yearly chibi feels so nice for some reason…

Hmm I feel like I should get Elysia but I’m not sure who to abandon …

[haughty elbow]

??

if they dont have a thumbs up then dont get them

[wanton canopy]

Generally for Zen challenges it's better to be flexible and the build recommend don't work... But yeah he don't need Kevin on that build. That stage need survivability(so i recommend get herscher for the hit shield) since all the mobs has high health and main damage is honkai orbs

Problem is they should have focused on HoV to S rank

[lunar terrace]

So it says here I can get ancient legacy with level 70+ does that mean I have to get to level 70 myself first before getting this stuff?

[wanton canopy]

Not really... The regular source is locked to masters-exalted bracket of MA and abyss
But you can still get them from event and use it in War Treasury

[lunar terrace]

oh

how do I get to master exalted?

[wanton canopy]

Masters bracket is what it's said lvl 70+. Exalted is need of breakthrough from lvl 80(basically lvl 81-88)

@lunar terrace

[lunar terrace]

is myself level 80?

[dapper axle]

Woah I always thought that just meant the most used or recommended
Thanks

[dapper axle]

Okie :D
Thank you!!

[lunar terrace]

So I should delete my account? I already got to chapter 6, but got busy with school, and stuff

[wanton canopy]

How is your crystal + valk collection?

[lunar terrace]

I have no Crystals, I have am 29 pity away from sparkle and my only S rank is the Herrsher of the Void

I feel like I could get Sparkle if I tried more maybe?

[odd plume]

not recommeded from meta standpoint

[lunar terrace]

whaaa that's crazy

[odd plume]

sample teams for beginner without pulling

all farmable or free

ignore SW team btw

[lunar terrace]

okay thank you

oh nice I can get Calico already with the aestericefds things

Should I purchase her now with this purple stuff?

[odd plume]

you already have her no?

[lunar terrace]

do I?

oh I do, I thought that was a trail character

what does SP mean?

[odd plume]

a subtype of A rank valk, valk with SP tag has extra SP skills

all SP valks are outdated, just usable for beginner since they are farmable

try to clear p2 story chapter 1 to get coralie and her wp

btw, check asterite guide in the pins to see what to farm

[lunar terrace]

ah thanks, I've been trying to look at all the pins

[wanton canopy]

No crystal so i would assume less than 1 pull? (no beginner quests since 6 months account), 29 pity away at ch 6 in story....

Hmmm at that point i think it's better to restart. Base on one time crystal source starter can give 14k+ crystal source alone.

And base on how much you spend already (17k xtals, 15.6k if you avail the 50% on first 10 pull)

[lunar terrace]

mhh, that's a shame, At least I can skip the story and redo the tutorial since I have no idea how this works

I do want sparkle, but hmm

[wanton canopy]

Your account is not really crippled/bricked that much seems like can be salvaged but we'll see

[amber swift]

Tysm

[lunar terrace]

okay well I'll keep playing it then, I am still confused on what it means by breaking through exalted

oh wait 80+ does mean captain level

wow that's a lot of grinding for Mobius

[wanton canopy]

Yeah forgot to mention that

[lunar terrace]

welp, I guess I can find out what this stuff means

half way there, level 41

[wanton canopy]

Actually..... Like 20% there base on level requirement increments but yeah

[lunar terrace]

aBronyaStare

[wanton canopy]

Exalted can be achieved in 1 month but don't sweat it too much since you will get there eventually by just doing weekly + story

[pliant kernel]

Anyone got a Dudu songq idk what do you supposed to play without hare ref?

[urban lake]

someone sent it to you in #💁gameplay-help message

[quick birch]

It's the signature stigmata for the new years Kiana that just released this version

It has some general buffs but p2 stigmatas have 90% of their buffs lockers behind the 3pc and it being equipped to a specific char

[solar drum]

which open world map has a high chance of having crystals appear in a weekly tasks

minus apho 2 because of spoilers

[quick birch]

Afaik apho 1 Schicksal comes after apho 2 in terms of crystal task chance

[abstract sequoia]

i thought sakura samsara only has a reduced chance

[solar drum]

apho 1 has a higher chance then 2

[abstract sequoia]

idk about that

[solar drum]

so the sakura samsara ow has a reduced chance of everything?

no wonder the portion size is small

[abstract sequoia]

the thing is you're getting mixed answers based on other people's luck. Just know that I ran Sakura Samsara for weeks to max Higokumaru and my crystal chance was pathetic

so compared to apho2, I can certainly say that it has a reduced chance

not sure about the other open worlds

[ancient needle]

From a certain someone's testing a long while ago it's APHO2 > Skemsal > APHO1 >>> Samsara

[solar drum]

skemsal?

[ancient needle]

Schicksal

[solar drum]

whats skemsal

sounds like food

[quick birch]

Ah so I mixed up Schicksal with apho 1

[ancient needle]

Schicksal Arsenal -> Scamsal -> Skemsal

[solar drum]

scamsal

[ancient needle]

Schicksal Arsenal is a banner type they've discontinued somewhere in the beginning of P2

[quick birch]

Last one was in 7.7 iirc, but since then it feels like they just discontinued it

[ancient needle]

7.7? That's hella late if that's true

[quick birch]

Should be brick rerun

[ancient needle]

Ye, Brick + Sirin weap

[obsidian quartz]

Which costume, i dont use any of them

[thick bolt]

whichever one you like, or just keep the box till you decide later

[obsidian quartz]

Shes not any good tho right?

[thick bolt]

none of them are

[quick birch]

the box is really just for collection purpose just choose which costume you like the most or keep it as star said

[obsidian quartz]

Unfortunate

[neat hawk]

what does SD stand for

[shadow gyro]

stardust
there's a glossary in pins btw

[quick birch]

either shadow dash ( a valk) or stardust, use glossary in the future

[neat hawk]

shadow dash then

[quick birch]

most of the time stardust since shadow dash is useless tbh

[neat hawk]

sd type valk is bad?

[wanton canopy]

No?

[neat hawk]

shadow dash is useless

[neat hawk]

.

[quick birch]

yeah she is no SD valk though

[neat hawk]

oh OOOOOH

mb

[wanton canopy]

Shadow dash is the battlesuit like years ago.
SD(stardust) is type of battlesuit(generally new)

[neat hawk]

damn

[shadow gyro]

yeah stardust is a type like bio, mech, etc

[quick birch]

SD can stand for stardust or shadow dash with shadow dash being a valk released in 1.8 and stardust just being a type

[shadow gyro]

shadow dash is a very old mei battlesuit

[wanton canopy]

Ancient

[neat hawk]

i get it now

[quick birch]

stardust valks do have their relevance in meta especially FWS as the newest release and a future ??? support

[neat hawk]

holy wall

XD

[quick birch]

sonque is also still very strong for stardust bosses because she can insta detonate the first threshold on stardust enemies. Sena is mostly used for WoD support but does have her bosses
both are not recommended at this point though

[wicked moth]

Would reign solaris replace anyone here

[quick birch]

nah i was just seaching for the exact terminology

[quick birch]

TA

you can also try RS dps not sure what should perform better atp

RS dps scores very solid on this boss

[hardy venture]

hi @quick birch , idk if u remember me but I was the one you advised to start a fresh account. May I ask, which character is the best one to choose in Valkyrie Option Egg:S and at the same time the S rank battlesuit option 2025. Thank you!

[quick birch]

for the S rank battle suit option check the first pin in this channel

[hardy venture]

what is the meaning of ER

[ancient needle]

Elysian Realm, a gamemode that unlocks at lvl 50

[hardy venture]

oh, I dont have it yet

[vague lily]

Is it possible to clear these 9/9 with only the trial characters? My characters aren't very well built.

[quick birch]

yes

[vague lily]

Alright. Thanks for the confirmation.

[quick birch]

check out the shallow sequence tutorials if you dont know how to play someone

[vague lily]

Oh right I didn't know this existed. Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate the help.

[quick birch]

Np

[neon mesa]

Does Mei HoT Ultimate and Mobius Ultimate counts as summoned entities?

[urban lake]

wtf thats alot of Crystals

[severe imp]

Trial, but if you have lite ER on high difficult, just go level her

that help shallow sequence

or just go for 9 floor on easy mode

i having same trouble

[quick birch]

shallow sequence should really be a trouble even if the valk is level one before you start it

[severe imp]

i having trouble with trial sirin at lv9

no dmg...

[quick birch]

just follow the guide in here

the second link

it links to a yt playlist which shows how to play each char in shallow sequence

[severe imp]

Sirin is hard even if you look tutorial

you need know when to press valk supp

because is the only way to do high damage

[quick birch]

i dont remember having any troubles with her lemme try real quick

[vague lily]

Oh I'm not sure if this is related but, how do I level up my characters without going through all the floors of the elysian realm. Since there are rewards to be claimed if they reach max level. Or is it the only way?

[severe imp]

some also are too old...

[lone crater]

get valk lvls higher if u are struggling

[severe imp]

trial start at lv80, what i mean is you need her max lv 15

[quick birch]

lite -> defeat first boss -> quit -> repeat

[quick birch]

i dont see how that relates to shallow sequence, you get a trial valk and those should be enough to clear it

[lone crater]

well i do mean that just get her to lvl 15, if u are struggling that much

[severe imp]

yes, but need know the right combo with walk supp

Sirin isn't easy

[vague lily]

Oh alright. I'll do that now. I appreciate the help.

[severe imp]

you need know the right time to press the walks

if not you fail

i don't know why they did sirin that weak on ER

[quick birch]

i just did sirins shallow sequence and she really just is use both support valks and press WA and BA and rotate between these 2 just as the tutorial says

[lone crater]

record urself

[quick birch]

u really dont need to time the support valks at all

are you sure you are playing her right ?

[severe imp]

maybe i see the faster one

where he press 2 walk before ulti, or something like that

[lone crater]

just record urself chief, and sent it here, so we know wats the prob

[severe imp]

aniway i go upgrade her

having also trouble with finality

[runic canopy]

Mobius forgor, should be yes.
HoT only with 7Thunders weapon.

[lone crater]

hot 7t thing is also er exclusive, yes or no

[autumn oxide]

no

7t is not er exclusive

[lone crater]

i meant er summon

she has summon, yes, but is that er only,

i feel like the guy asked for abyss

[autumn oxide]

im saying the summon is not er exclusive holy shit

[lone crater]

ok, lmao

[urban lake]

[quick birch]

are you sure you are following the video tutorials linked in the faq because if you are talking about Herscher of finality its a very simple combo, if you are talking about the difficulty coralie should be able to do it

[severe imp]

Mmm...9 floor lite on 2.5 means i need 15 run each walk

finality lv9 to 10 first time floor9...

[severe imp]

because i have genesis...with divine key for sure would be easy

[quick birch]

if we are talking about her shallow sequence she uses genesis there anyway, even in deep sequence it should be fine, otherwise coralie still stomps she is really good in ER

[severe imp]

trial sure, your walk can be changed

for what i remember

[quick birch]

yeah ik but she does fine with genesis in shallow sequnce

especially hofi combo is rather easy

[severe imp]

i did old walk with the best weapon i have for exemple, and shot everything 😛

[quick birch]

if you dont have the equip for a valk in shallow sequence just use the trial valk, are we even still talking about shallow sequence or are you talking about normal ER

[severe imp]

flameshon can't beat Otto...

[quick birch]

you also dont need to do that many runs 2.5x gives 174 xp as a rewards and the max is 1500 1500 devided by 174 is ~9 times even less with shallow sequnce xp

[severe imp]

the heck they put 18 bar boss on shallow seguence, the fu-ck

for that i said you need max level before do it...you can't lol

[quick birch]

i also just did HoF recently i didnt really have a problem are you really following the shallow sequence video guides

[severe imp]

even lv10 heer of flame can't done it, he reset

[quick birch]

HoF can do it, again are you following the shallow sequence tutorials ?

if not check out the second link

click "here " in the sentence Also see Shallow Sequence tutorials here

[severe imp]

i talking about kiana flame rightnow

Otto 18 bars -.-

have some cheat to kill the orb faster?

[quick birch]

yes i know that is HoF again she can do it and HP bars dont really mean anything 1 bar can be 1 HP but also 100

[severe imp]

orb is slow to die, he restart 3 time

[quick birch]

pls take a look at the shallow sequence tutorials it explains it rather good when to use what

[severe imp]

np i go for flame lv15 then

10% Atk will change a bit

[quick birch]

again it should be doable without going to lvl 15 are you following the video guide yes or no

[oak estuary]

Save evasions until u kill otto and seed appears, the spam evade>combo atk on the seed to kill it fast

[severe imp]

what you mean? The burn?

burn-evade-burn i get it, but isn't easy

[oak estuary]

Its literally just evade>hold atk>repeat

[severe imp]

oh you mean save all stack evade for him

[oak estuary]

Yes

Well you should evade every time u enter overheat so u can continue doing dmg

But other than that u save the rest for otto seed and kill him

[severe imp]

fail...he start at 2 bar orb

well np i have to done her at lv15

have to do it aniway so...

[severe imp]

i guess shallow sequence don't count the level

because lv1 lv10 walk doing same damage

i guess the level walk is just for ER

[quick birch]

Valk level does affect your DMG

[solar drum]

which open world gives the most AE frags

[thick bolt]

all are quite equal tbh, I don't think that is affected much but could be wrong

[dapper dock]

Where is adventure taks? Cant find the tap

[thick bolt]

Attack -> Start -> open world

need to progress the story of each open world a bit to unlock adv tasks for them

[lunar dew]

How worth it is it to invest in SP Valks. Like if I get them up to like SSS or something

Like because I can’t spend for new valks I could just upgrade the SP valks to be good for a while

[ancient needle]

Well, it depends on what you alr have
Considering the channel I assume you're pretty new
In that case it only makes sense for some SS MA strats, but that's not smth you can build up to soon, cuz you need specific gear as well

[ancient needle]

SSS won't magically make them good without sig gear

Here are some team comp options without gacha valks (ignore Silverwing): #👶beginner-help message

[lunar dew]

So far I got Pardofelis but I could grind out the pieces for Swallowtails too

[ancient needle]

Check the Asterite Investment List in the pins

[ancient needle]

Swallowtail is not a valk you wanna be using beyond like lvl 50

[severe imp]

aniway i done 4 walk and got 1600 crystals lol

[lunar dew]

aw that sucks. i love their gameplay too

[dapper dock]

how upgrade valk for get that boost damage?

[severe imp]

you need go to floor 9 ER

or like me, shallow sequence, done it twice

[ancient needle]

That's not what the question is about

[ancient needle]

You can just press on the valk's portrait in their Shallow Sequence menu

[severe imp]

Wait a second...Sirin is lv11 and im stack at first stage...i see she have 3 skill on evasion...how to active them?

maybe i can't pass because the evasion

[thick bolt]

Evasion auto triggers because of her ego signets

you just do normal shallow sequence rot

[severe imp]

so i don't get why she no do damage...

1 minute the first 3 mobs...

[thick bolt]

did you follow the shallow sequence rot from the videos?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLg5zztBom0BoiPyRSIUbS6ex086TTGuyo

[severe imp]

i don't get how the rotation is on walks

i see it, don't got how it work

[thick bolt]

one sec

[severe imp]

like i start with both walk

when on video i see he use it on right spot(and this look hard to find...)

maybe i can't done this, required skill

[thick bolt]

...I just watched the video

you use the support valks
then weapon, then press the glowy attack button
after that just keep pressing between weapon and attack button
use ult when evade dots is only 1

they even write it down for you in text...

[severe imp]

yes, but evasion still locked at 3 points...

i really don't get it

maybe im stupid

[thick bolt]

it auto triggers when you alternate between attack and weap

[severe imp]

he not use the charge bar?

[thick bolt]

you're doing something wrong then, can't say what unless we get a recording

[thick bolt]

nope

[severe imp]

one hit and glowy? This look so stupid...

why mihoyo did that lol

[ancient needle]

That's how ER works

[thick bolt]

it's ER, playstyles are funny and jank

[severe imp]

lol

so funny ahah

[rotund pasture]

How bad is this?

[ancient needle]

Pretty bad, you really wanna have a shieldbreak source (which I assume you don't have)

[shadow gyro]

you don't have any other geared phy valk right?

[ancient needle]

Ideally you wanna have a Phys DPS too

[severe imp]

prometheus break aponia shield faster

better use Phys team for me

but you need solaris i guess

[quick birch]

Aponia is a very gated and annoying boss, you can experiment a bit to see which teams works the best but this is one of the situations where it is 100% valid to just take the L and leave the boss alone

[severe imp]

i quit at second phase, got 1800 and who care

i will derank for sure it's ok

[ancient needle]

Your current team is the best you have

[severe imp]

aniway Badum with prometheus have nice QTE

[ancient needle]

Maybe, but you lose too many buffs

[severe imp]

depend also on rank, maybe for agony1-2 it's enough

[ancient needle]

And the shieldbreak is not great without TA's stigs

[severe imp]

i didn't try badum-coralie-prom yet

or maybe navi-prom

[quick birch]

Those will maybe work as a cope option but 2 heavenly shift supports should still be better

[severe imp]

last time i did badum-pardo-prom maybe...

but i was on agony1 so she dead fast

[dapper dock]

Just pulled Sparkle. She is good?

[ancient needle]

She does have her uses, but she's not recommended to get atp

The main reason is her being unable to support the unknown AR type

There are other reasons too

[haughty elbow]

a rank 0/4 is not cutting it

[vague lily]

It seems obvious but I presume I never spend crystals on this returnee banner right?

[haughty elbow]

mhm

[vague lily]

For this do I just choose whoever I want or go for the asterites? Im not sure. My thought process on it is. A: I choose a character and I get crystals from them via the Elysian Realm (if they are available within Elysian Realm). B: I get asterites

[severe imp]

Mihoyo can be strange, and add divine key for lunar...but who know when

on low rank abyss i still use her

[quick birch]

getting a valk for ER crystals is a nice idea although all of them are purchasable with asterites, idr how much asterite they give you but i would assume choosing a char would give you a bit more if you look at fragment price vs how many asterites you get

also check out asterite list investment in pins for that

[vague lily]

It gives me 3000 Asterites if I were to choose that as an option. Also regarding asterite investment, I have a lot of stored asterite, I do follow the instructions given on how and where to spend asterite but I do have quite a large sum left. Do I just keep it or spend it on resources I ever fall short in?

[frozen crypt]

just follow the pinned asterite guide

[severe imp]

Aniway returnee quest you did? That give you 10 pull for free

just on that shop

[vague lily]

It does? Ive only gotten 1200 Crystals from the shop. I've probably done or counted something wrong

[severe imp]

Read them, maybe you have to pull on normal banner, i not remember

but rightnow isn't worth it...because sparkle are not good anymore

[quick birch]

its not that she isnt good really its just that other things are more valuable, sparkle is still a good LoA support.

[vague lily]

Yeah I was told not to backpull. Currently saving, and by the way am I supposed to do a returnee quest? Im only looking at the Crystals the shop has given me.

[severe imp]

Look all section on returnee, but if i remember right, it said to spend 12k crystals

[quick birch]

yeah dont do that

12k is a lot

and there really isnt something worth pursuing atm

[severe imp]

next patch is soon, maybe he have time

[vague lily]

Ohhh the spending event. Sorry I wasnt paying attention and didnt realise. Yeah its not worth it, sadly its only spendable on the Returnee banners which I've been told to avoid.

[quick birch]

that quest will most likely still be here once 8.2 rolls around and based on your crystal count you can consider pulling although that may very based on how many one time crystal sources you have and if you are f2p

[severe imp]

aniway they can still add lunar on war treasury

she is old enough

[quick birch]

eh that will still take a while

they just added HoFs

[vague lily]

Who is HoF? The fire Kiana?

[quick birch]

HoFs is Herscher of Flamescion and HoFi is herscher of finality both kiana battlesuit

[thick bolt]

we've just reached 5.0 on WT no?
Luna is still ~2-3 years away prob

[quick birch]

also use the glossary in pins for abbreviations

[quick birch]

yeah she still has a long way until she is in WT eventually

[severe imp]

aniway don't worry, for sure you not lose lunar, will be free somehow

[vague lily]

I think I know most of the commonly used ones. Its just HoFi and HoFs I was still unsure on. Apologies

[severe imp]

(or like i said, new weapon to make her return)

unfortunately we not know XD

[quick birch]

np no one expects you to know all abbreviations

i was just making you aware of the glossary so you can look them up yourself in the future

[vague lily]

Yeah I completely forgot about the glossary so it was good that you reminded me of it. Thanks for the reminder.

[quick birch]

this and her getting a dkey is really just pure speculation and nothing we should really let people bet on. She is a contender yes but i think its still important to make people aware that we have 0 guarantee

[vague lily]

Yeah. I think I need to make my current roster stronger and more diverse rather than hoping Luna gets a Dkey that makes her strong in the future.

[quick birch]

yeah spending crystals on her now while hoping she will get a dkey is not a good idea, all chars that got a dkey were free either in the same patch or 1-2 patches before the dkey release, if they will continue that pattern it's even less of a good idea, but in the end we can really only speculate because there is no guarantee she will even get a dkey. Building your roster sounds like a solid idea currently, i assume you dont really have any p2 infrastructure ?

[severe imp]

for now all old walk become obtain on war treasury so...

[quick birch]

yeah thats valid it will just take a few years from now on

[severe imp]

wow i was at 12k crystals this morning, now i have 18k lol

means i done 10 walk on ER

(still just shallow sequence, they are at lv8 walk, so untill 15 means i still have to gain 1k from ER)

[vague lily]

Sorry for the late reply. I have some P2 characters/valks but I'm not sure if what I have is considered enough

I can send a screenshot of my P2 characters if you think that would be better.

[quick birch]

nah its fine this was just about if you have any p2 infrastructure, even if your account would have many established teams i wouldn't recommend LV.

[sand flame]

Guys i have a doubt if I don't attempt any stage of abyss do I still get crystals after the abyss ends?

[ancient needle]

You need to get at least 1 pt to get the rewards

[sand flame]

Fk

There goes my 500 crystals

[ancient needle]

Acc bricked, gotta make a new one

[quick birch]

Well already -100 crystals if you don't get 1500 points

[odd carbon]

Anyone know how much crystal we can get in 8.1 and 8.2?

[primal heron]

wait a min

[odd carbon]

I forgot what version we on so ig the newest version

[quick birch]

We're at the end of 8.1 currently, you can also use the crystal calculator in pins to see how many crystals you can get

[primal heron]

check #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

i sent it wrong chanel

[thick bolt]

8.2 crystal income

[quick birch]

That's without events but it gives you a general idea

[odd carbon]

Ok so 22,210 for 8.2? Nice

[thick bolt]

if A3

more if above

[odd carbon]

What’s a3

[quick birch]

Agony 3

[odd carbon]

Oh

Are these mostly consistent throughout every version?

[thick bolt]

varies a bit depending on events but for the same patch duration yeah

[quick birch]

The crystal income, yeah it doesn't change that much throughout versions, it can fluctuate a bit but nothing major

Be aware that based on your abyss rank you will gain less or more depending on which rank you are in

[pastel dew]

Who should I take ?

[lunar dew]

Out of all the beginner teams (Not counting Bronya). Which is best to mainly invest one

[pastel dew]

I have sparkle

[quick birch]

Check pins

[lunar dew]

Like are they all equally decent or no?

[pastel dew]

I don’t really care about competitive stuff I just wanna have strong characters tbh

[quick birch]

All of them are fine they'll get replaced once you get your first newer S rank. Maybe you will use them in MA after that but that's about it. Coralie/RC/TA are nice units that you can't go wrong with since you may use them as cope supports later on.

[quick birch]

Well all of them aren't strong

And basically everyone in there is farmable except SW but give her a few months and she will also be in WT

[lunar dew]

if i may ask which one are those again like design wise (sorry if im bugging)

[quick birch]

Np you aren't RC is the cat girl and TA is Terminal aide

You can use the glossary in pins for future abbreviations just do that you know

[lunar dew]

also one more thing mind linking the asterite list investment

its not showing in pins for me

[sweet flax]

.

[lunar dew]

tysm!

[sweet flax]

are you scrolling down pins?

its in the mega pin

[lunar dew]

yeah it just wasnt showing for some reason

[sweet flax]

weird

[lunar dew]

OKAY this is the team imma grind out!

OKAY I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION (im trying not to spam with questions)
Should everyone i try to get to SSS or just some?

[sweet flax]

only coralie actively as she has use later on, you can leave rc and ta at S since you will replace them pretty soon

her weapon is also obtainable as one of the first rewards in p2 story

[lunar dew]

okay so coralie SSS then rc and ta at S got it

[sweet flax]

just take them all to S at first but if you are pulling on gacha next patch there's no point in taking rc to s

[lunar dew]

theres a new valk next patch? isnt it like the sushang?

[quick birch]

Yes new Sushang battlesuit

Peregrine sword

[sweet flax]

ye im talking about sushang, since you would use coralie as one of her supports and ta as the 3rd (slightly better than rc when both ungeared in physical teams)

either way you would replace ta relatively soon as well

[lunar dew]

okay so just focus on getting them?

[sweet flax]

ye, rc is given to you for free, ta has to be obtained via asterite

[lunar dew]

okay got it

[lunar dew]

its when you unlock part 2 correct?

[sweet flax]

part 2 is already unlocked iirc, but one of your missions in the beginner manual will be to complete the mission covenant of finality (a part 2 chapter 1 mission) so you can unlock her weapon at that time

coralie + her weapon are given as the first 2 rewards of p2 progression rewards

[lunar dew]

ohh okay

wait so im replacing rc when i get the new sushang?

[sweet flax]

basically ye

assuming your goal is to maintain proper account development

[lunar dew]

yeah

[solar drum]

is azure empyrea an all round elemental breach support

or only fire breach support

[naive pivot]

all, but she's still certified dung

[steep scroll]

what do pardo and coralie do in a rs team..?

[opal ingot]

their best

[spiral badge]

(this was answered partially here but if anyone wants to give a more thorough breakdown, feel free #💁gameplay-help message)

[woven vapor]

Sup guys, that's my current roster and inventory, should I use now or save it?

[odd plume]

use what?

anything in your inventory?

[ancient needle]

1. Use to max unupgraded stigs (prioritize next patch's stuff)
2. Use, but don't buy them in the future
3. Get one of each weap for collection points, then you can salvage them for Shifters if you get more
4. Keep until you desperately need Toruses
5. Keep until you desperately need either, but ideally go for Metals
6. You can keep a safety pillow of Shifters, but generally you wanna prioritize Jades for upgrading dkeys
7. Use, no point in saving them for endgame
8. Refer to 3 (they give Fluid Alloys though iirc)

[hot wyvern]

I'll be honest, don't use anything yet since you don't need any of them

[dusky sapphire]

How to increase adventure level in APHO 1? Saw someone getting straight up crystals and now I'm greedy

[ancient needle]

By doing the tasks 3 times per week

Each task gives 1 star, you lose some every reset depending on the lvl

[dusky sapphire]

I do

But I keep losing my rank. My chars are lvl 50

[ancient needle]

If you're alr at lvl 30 then that's the max

[dusky sapphire]

My adventure lvl is 19

[ancient needle]

Yes, you lose some stars no matter what
Are you doing 15 tasks in total per week?

Or did I misunderstand you rn

[dusky sapphire]

Yes

Look at this dude he is adventure lvl 30

Meanwhile I never forget tasks yet I'm always getting demoted

[ancient needle]

That's still very lucky, don't expect to always get that

[urban lake]

oh hey thats me

[dusky sapphire]

Sure but he's lvl 30 somehow and I can't get promoted

[ancient needle]

Anyway, there's nothing else to it, so idk what the issue is

[dusky sapphire]

I see

[ancient needle]

Maybe show your current tasks if you have any

[dusky sapphire]

Okey lemme check

[dusky sapphire]

Look I got demoted again!

[thick bolt]

you lose stars at the end of each week, but you get more than enough tasks weekly to make up several times over

[ancient needle]

That's inevitable as I've mentioned before

[thick bolt]

only way to get in deficit is to not do more than 2 tasks a week

[dusky sapphire]

Which is weird because I never miss a single adv task yet I can't unfortunately lvl up

[thick bolt]

well decrease varies per level

[ancient needle]

And ye, I was a bit wrong, it's every weekly reset, not every OW reset

[dusky sapphire]

I see

Nothing to but to cry now

[thick bolt]

huh

[dusky sapphire]

[thick bolt]

done the 5 adv tasks for this cycle yet?

[ancient needle]

Get tasks rn if you can and show each of them

Ainnoway there are tasks that don't give stars now

[thick bolt]

get 5 tasks and finish them, see stars before and after doing the tasks

first time dealing with this situation

[dusky sapphire]

Understood

[thick bolt]

also send an ss of the task list just in case

[dusky sapphire]

Omg crystals!

[thick bolt]

[dusky sapphire]

They're giving one star each

Oh wow it increased lvl!

This is so weird I've been stuck at 20 for God knows how long yet the moment I show ss now it's increasing

[thick bolt]

everything seems normal then right now at least

Do take note of the times, thursday and saturday is task reset so you can get 10 more stars this week

[dusky sapphire]

Yes Ik will do

And thank you both for helping out!

[thick bolt]

it's all the power of the crystal task, fixed levelling

[dusky sapphire]

Indeed

[thick bolt]

Oh also, I want to ask is this a new account? As in multiple open worlds unlocked at this time?

since weekly finalization rewards and star deduction scales with the amount of open worlds unlocked for the week so just wanted to confirm

[dusky sapphire]

Yeah it's been about two months. First time player. Also I don't have sakura samsara and schicksal hq unlocked

[thick bolt]

got it

[inner bronze]

What teams can dudu be played in

[thick bolt]

LoA support and dps i.e just look at whoever has LoA ring or heavenly shift tag

[quick birch]

She can be played as a LoA dps, as a support she can be
a p1 physical support
WoD suppot
LoA support
New astral ring support

[inner bronze]

ic ty

[storm leaf]

hey which SP valk should i choose from this? new account, don't have any of them. thanks in advance

[ancient needle]

None of them will be very useful without extra investment (which you don't wanna do yet), but the best pick is the middle one

She's a universal ele support

[ivory monolith]

Should I join a guild?

[ancient needle]

Yes, you can get some rewards out of it, just make sure to find a Tier V Armada with ~120+ active players

[ivory monolith]

Oh hello again

Btw u told me to wait for 8.2 but I wasted my crystals on Elysia costume is it bad ?(And I still haven't got it..I'm missing the box for a free character and the costume)

[ancient needle]

Well, it has no benefit to your acc at all, and 7680 xtals is a lot

[thick bolt]

The thing is do you even have Ely to justify going for the outfit to yourself

[severe imp]

even if i skip Aponia, stay at agony2, nice

[ivory monolith]

No..But I have the bundle and I'm a 100% I will buy it

[ancient needle]

Anyway, it won't affect your pulling plans cuz you're new

And the bundle will compensate, ye

[quick birch]

Its about an ~80% chance to get the outfit on the last pull

[ancient needle]

82% to be exact

[quick birch]

this is why you never pull on it unless you can guarantee it

[ivory monolith]

Omg

I'm going to cry if I don't get it

Also I got parfodelis is she good for Elysia ?

[ancient needle]

For earlygame yeah

[ivory monolith]

Who should I prioritize then

Also I cleared the Q thing but I understood there are some kind of levels ?Like bc I cleared the 10th floor I will upgrade

[ancient needle]

Check the Asterite Investment List in the pins
You can refer to this for team comp options without gacha valks: #👶beginner-help message

Replace Silverwing with HoHE there

[ivory monolith]

Ty !!

[ancient needle]

There are 3 ranks
The higher the rank, the more difficult it is, but the rewards are better as well

[ivory monolith]

Yeah I saw that

Wait where is the Asterite Investment list

[ivory monolith]

Ty

[severe imp]

If i go around 22k-24k crystals, have to pull next walk guys?(Next patch)

For what i have maybe not

maybe i also buy first step on BP...that give alot crystals

also because im near lv100

[thick bolt]

Honestly for this case I'd suggest waiting for 8.3 news since it could be a new ring.
Because you could either pull sushang and skip 8.3 or do the opposite (unless you get lucky that is).

advice is subject to change based on pity count

[quick birch]

If your pity is above 50 you can at least do the discounted pull and make your decision based on how that one went

[prisma fiber]

Is Thelema’s bis team still have Lantern?

Or she’s been replaced with Hohe?

[ancient needle]

Thele DPS? Not since 7.6

[ancient needle]

No as well
The current BiS is Sena Vita

[prisma fiber]

What

[ancient needle]

What?

[prisma fiber]

Nvm

[ancient needle]

Btw, HoHE is the worst WoD supp with the HSS tag

At least for ele WoD, not sure about Phys

[rugged compass]

Dang
Why?

...well theres always gonna be a worst

[ancient needle]

Low buffs

[rugged compass]

Was Lantern the previous worst?

[ancient needle]

Yes

[rugged compass]

Thats sad

[severe imp]

well...i need 56 pull for walk

and 60 for weapon i guess

we see if they gift 10 pull for free(but i don't think so)

only problem is...i am near to done everything on ER(still 2400 crystal on there) after?

hardtime farm XD

[prisma fiber]

How do I know when to switch to Vita to gain her buff?

[ancient needle]

There is an icon above the healthbar if you're not on Vita

All Vita's buffs are from her ult

[prisma fiber]

The one that’s shaped like an eye?

[ancient needle]

I only remember that it has Vita's colors

[quick birch]

It should be an eye

Iirc

Should be her ult symbol and that's an eye

[shadow gyro]

this one

[severe imp]

10 days new patch?

so i touch 20k easy before new patch

[shadow gyro]

should i upgrade these?
dkey level for the gene limit thing is level 9 on all, i hardly use them (sometimes i use the sp ones) but at the same time i have the mats and the green ring from realm of battle and i wonder if i should just use it
i only have hohe to use the burst mode one

[ancient needle]

SP could be nice in niche cases, Burst mode DMG is defo helpful when playing HoHE

The crate one was only sometimes used on Songque if you had Sera, it's the least useful one

[shadow gyro]

yeah i don't have sera so i just use the physical buff

[ancient needle]

Might as well max everything for collection purposes

[quick birch]

nothing else you can do with the green things anyway, phase shifters are nice ig but if you need them you could just buy them with asterite

[shadow gyro]

lmao
at least ill start with the sp one
i do still need asterites and coins which is why i didn't bother to max the whole gene thing

[rugged sorrel]

but i left hos and HoR's dk

[urban lake]

Mango

[quick birch]

[urban lake]

is there a specific combo for badum when she dps?

I need help

honestly my lack of valks is killing me in RL, I need that shushu ASAP

only have 533 score

[quick birch]

uh its just qte in -> basic attack sequence -> WA -> enchaned WA, if ult is available you can cancle the first WA animations when you see the fortune bar lighting up

[urban lake]

wait you can cancel animation

when WA for 100% the bar

[quick birch]

yes

[urban lake]

ok

any tips for this team?

[quick birch]

never played sparkle tbh but i guess you dont want coralie to take up too much field time so just apply her buffs and rotate between sparkle and fws until you need to refresh them

[ancient needle]

Depends on whether you know how they work individually

[ancient needle]

Especially Coralie

[urban lake]

like I just use coral tdm buff and switch

[ancient needle]

You might wanna ult in the opener

[urban lake]

and sparkle QTE WA skill and ult to Badum

[urban lake]

I do that

only in beginning ofc

[ancient needle]

You're gtg then

[urban lake]

533 score.....

lets try 550

[quick birch]

why do i even see teri aop there 😭

[ancient needle]

Do you have HoFi dkey by any chance?

[urban lake]

If I did coral would not be here

[quick birch]

you can also use ult to in the same way after you used stellar shift, the only difference being that you dont cancle her WA but the last animation of the BA sequence

again just keep an eye on the fortune bar for that

[urban lake]

oh ko

558

could've been 565 or something UGH

got frozen

[quick birch]

i saw that

[urban lake]

I shifted it to honkek chat

[urban lake]

also is there a way I can break the shield

[quick birch]

phys shield so not really

[urban lake]

[ancient needle]

It doesn't reduce ele DMG anyway

[urban lake]

what does it do

[ancient needle]

It reduces Phys DMG

Also breaking the shield stuns Parv

[urban lake]

oh welp kinda useless for me

I wish I had Bita.....

[glossy thunder]

is rerolling recommended at all since there's no guest option?

I'd rather not have a bunch of hoyoverse accounts sitting around especially since I've already got the rest of the games on just one. Just checking if rerolling really makes or break progression in this instance

[haughty elbow]

its recommended but it wont make or break progression

[slim blaze]

Hard choice

[shadow tendon]

how important is leveling up valk weapon + stigmata?

[haughty elbow]

pretty easy

[glossy thunder]

I think I'll abstain then, would rather keep all my hoyo progression to one account

[hot wyvern]

Which valks are we talking about

It's always important to level their personal weapon and stigmata set

[shadow tendon]

like the p2 ones, vita, badum, rs, etc... Does it make a huge impact in abyss?

[hot wyvern]

Very much so

You would want them maxed in abyss, with some stigmatas as exception

Middle piece can be left at level 1 for elemental valks, because elements can't crit

[shadow tendon]

ok ty

[quick birch]

1/50 specifically because you still want the stigmata effects to upgrade

[shadow tendon]

wait what is 1/50?

[hot wyvern]

Level 1/level 50

The stigmata is limit broken three times

[shadow tendon]

ohhh icic

i feel like with the valks i have i should be able to easily retain a3 so maybe I havent been leveling them properly

[quick birch]

if the valks you've mentioned are the ones you have yeah definetly even RL retain ro A3/RL bounce doesnt sound unrealistic at all tbh

[shadow tendon]

wait its so expensive

[dapper dock]

What opens world gives me player exp? I can active ONLY One per week right? I have inactive: Sakura schicksal odyssey1, and odyssey2 is ative

[quick birch]

open world isnt really a source of player exp BP missions or story is tbh, apho2 has the highest chance of crystal task appearing so i suggest taking that

open world also gives you weekly stigmata resonance which will stack over time

[quick birch]

try prioritising your dps weapon and stigmatas, even though LoA supports can contribute a nice amount of dmg that will still have the biggest impact. Ik that all s rank p2 valks are both dps and support but here it just comes down to who you are using more often imo.

at some point you may have extra materials to spare but leveling 3 valks at once can be extremly expensive, especially in terms of prism

[glossy thunder]

so what I've gathered by reading some of the pins is that having started today I should not pull on any of the current banners?

[thick bolt]

yup

[glossy thunder]

damn, said I missed kiana having started so close to the version's end

[thick bolt]

next patch is on the 24th so pulling the new valk will be better for your account than reruns for older valks

[glossy thunder]

so which characters should I be using in the meantime since my account isn't too developed?

[thick bolt]

!faq fhm

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[thick bolt]

some examples, most of the units are from the starter manual or from the asterite shop i.e farmable

barring silverwing

[glossy thunder]

also I ignored the tutorial when it told me to do a single pull on dorm supply, retaining my 200 gems but no b rank bronya

do I do the pull anyways or keep the gems

[thick bolt]

Hmm I don't remember that breaking anything so eh
Do it if the game has a mission in the starter book for it otherwise just ignore

[glossy thunder]

looks like it, do I also do a single pull on starter supply too because of this? reading pins it sounded like there was a free pull on starter supply but I haven’t seen anything like that

[thick bolt]

pull gets refunded because of that card reward, oh and the crystals yeah

[glossy thunder]

unless the gems I get back from doing it constitutes as a free pull

yeah okay

and I just do a single pull on starter supply? not a 10 pull just for the discount or anything? and if I am to pull on starter supply is there any particular one I should in the very off chance this one single pull is a god pull?

[thick bolt]

Just the single pull, starter is one of the very not recommended banners cause stuff is too old
Pull the Songque one, Golden haired girl. Jovial Deception: Shadowdimmer, she does work as support for the recent units

[glossy thunder]

okie dokie

[glossy thunder]

I get a free dorm ticket eventually through some means right? could I just circumvent spending the gems by being patient or does it just not matter

[ancient needle]

Yeah, there are multiple sources of Dorm tickets

You actually wanna save up 20 of them for spending events

[thick bolt]

I mean you could. There's a lot of sources for the dorm tickets, one of the biggest early on is the Sensei system which you access through the friends button on the bottom left

[quick birch]

yeah, things like armada shop, cadet rewards etc. give dorms pulls fairly early on

you'd want to get a sensei as soon as possible anyway for the rewards

[thick bolt]

Dorm ticket sources:

• Sensei cadet rewards
• Armada commision rewards lottery
• Chance from weekly crate in the main screen shop
• 2 monthly from armada shop

[glossy thunder]

so dorm ticket instead of 200 gems got it, then save 20 for spending events

and get a sensei asap noted

anyone wanna cash-in?

[quick birch]

#invite-links-here

[glossy thunder]

ah was looking for that channel, missed it

[solar drum]

how good is lunar vows bleed dps capabilities

compared to LK or even TP/VE

maybe even BKM

[ancient needle]

Coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb

(LV's the latter)

[quick birch]

coughing baby still stronger than LK atp

[thorn ember]

How long does it take to complete the Tericula event?

[ancient needle]

Like 7-8 days iirc, gated by dailies

[thorn ember]

dang

[ancient needle]

Well, you still have enough time

[thorn ember]

But there's no big Brevard aside from outfits right? I have all of them so it won't be a big deal if I don't complete it fully, right?

Ur so cool tho, always helping (at least you're one the first to respond to me when I ask something here lol)

[ancient needle]

Yeah, events are mostly for mats

You can get the important stuff in less time

[fresh grail]

How to get better weapons?

[ancient needle]

The actually good weaps are only from gacha

Can you provide more context?

If we're talking earlygame there are some copium options

[fresh grail]

sure where should I start when I'm level 80 rn? I'm stuck

[quick birch]

You also don't want to pull a valk without guaranteeing their weapon since it's a big DMG and utility loss and sometimes the gameplay is also just completely bricked without it.

[ancient needle]

Well, what do you alr have? Show your valks + weaps + stigs

[quick birch]

Regarding future pulls if you have any valks without weapon in most cases just don't bother getting their weapon

[solar drum]

so lunar vow is better than her predecessor

[hollow mango]

In what context

[solar drum]

bleed damage

[thorn ember]

Actually I've been thinking cuz rn I have only ~11k crystals and I really need new Sushang cuz she's 1)Bio and I don't have good bio valks except for FaV and 2) She's p2 Phys

Should I try to get her in her rerun or wait for next valk announcement?

[thick bolt]

next valk, chance for new ring

and bio has never been a niche to cover to a great extent

[quick birch]

Also getting valks on a rerun just isn't recommended in general

[quick birch]

I wouldn't call any of them LVs predecessor also LV isn't recommended to get atp and sushang will prob be better for bleed content now

[thorn ember]

But she covers immediately both Bio and Phys

oh AND bleed

[fresh grail]

😭

@ancient needle

[quick birch]

Well while this might be true your current crystal count looks like you can't afford her at all, unless you have some build pity we don't know of

[ancient needle]

Okay, I very strongly recommend you make a new acc, your current one has literally nothing of value

[thorn ember]

I don't 😔

[quick birch]

Both phys and bio is also rather bruteforcable, bleed is arguably harder to bruteforce and maybe a niche one might be interested to cover but it still is a niche which you can take the L on sometimes

[thorn ember]

Still wanted Sparkle too 😭

And Luna since I have her outfit now

[ancient needle]

From there it's more straightforward how to progress
You'll have enough crystals to afford the next patch's valk + weap, and the Starter Manual will provide you with some beginner gear

[thorn ember]

pulling is a pain

[quick birch]

Well Luna prob won't ever get a banner again atp, sparkle also isn't recommended at this point. From what I've seen it's best to just skip 8.2 because you cannot afford Sushang at all. Doing the discounted pull is fine since you have no build pity but unless you get lucky on that discounted pull just skip her. If you do get lucky ask again what you should do now

|| Luna will be in the 8.3 BP but that requires buying knight/paladin BP||

If you have any other questions regarding pulling feel free to ask

[thorn ember]

I don't think I will but thanks
All pulling advice is the same anyway

"don't pull for a valk unless full gear" or "wait for something better"

[quick birch]

Yeah full gear is the bare minimum in this game tbh, and the second part is just because we give meta oriented advice if you feel like you don't care that much about abyss performance while being aware that it affects your crystals you can decide yourself if some Chars that we already declare as not recommended is worth it for you just because of personal reasons

[vague lily]

I was looking through the pins to see anything regarding characters that should be used together. Is my best option to search it up online and/or follow the teams recommended by the game. But as I don't have many characters I cant use the recommended teams most of the times. Should my best option to make a team or 2 that is fairly well built and try to power through the early stages?

[quick birch]

Just ask here, and don't trust in game recommendations they are either straight up wrong or outdated most of the time.

[thorn ember]

well yeah I suppose

[thorn ember]

but which would be considered wrong? I heard that statement a lot of times but all in game team recomenations (from recent valks at least) seem fine, no?

[quick birch]

Try checking this out

It has some beginner teams that will be enough until you get your first new gacha s rank

[vague lily]

Oh, I hadn't thought that would be the case. Im quite stuck on team building as currently whenever I battle in the Memorial Arena or the Superstring Dimension I just use the one character in my team that does the most damage.

[quick birch]

Recommended fws on Flux tank while Dudu was better, recommendeds HoHe with lantern regularly while HoHe is very dependent on thele support, not updating old char guides once they get new teammates the list goes on

[thorn ember]

oooh I see I see

[vague lily]

I have a few newer characters(I think). Im not sure what is considered new, old, forgotten and so on.

[thorn ember]

fair tbh

[quick birch]

Well if you already have some you can just send a screenshot here and I can recommend some teams that should work

We can also cover how p2 team building works so that you can get a vague idea yourself next time who works with who

[vague lily]

These are the characters I tend to use. I usually use Vita and FoV for battles.

[quick birch]

Ngl you have some solid teams there assuming all have their gear ofc

[thorn ember]

FOV OUTFIT OMG 😭😭

it's so pretty, how much does it cost usually?

[quick birch]

And pls level your Coralie she is essential for vita DPS

Well it's not specifically her but that she is RoO and vita wants 3/3 RoO in her team and we only have coralie vita and HoFi+Dkey

[vague lily]

I think all of them do apart from Sparkle who is missing her weapon and Senadina who has nothing on her. I think that was because I had gotten her from those free pulls we got a long time ago with rotating characters.

[vague lily]

No idea. I had gotten it a long time ago. I can check if you want.

[thorn ember]

Also is Coralie weapon worth accenting (or whatever it's called. Ranking?)

[quick birch]

Either 9600 7680 depending on if it has a discount or not

[thorn ember]

God damn that's so much

[vague lily]

Oh and HoTr has nothing on her either. I think I had gotten her via the battle pass when I slowly stopped playing the game and hadn't come back in time to get her gear sadly.

[quick birch]

Well back to your teams, you can do
Vita/HoFi/Coraline
Thelema/vita/senadina
Sparkle/vita/Hofi thele ( although sparkle has no weapon so her DPS will suck~~ a bit ~~ )
And theoretically FoV/HoTr/sparkle

Yeah if HoTr is gearless forget that last team

[ancient needle]

"A bit" is a massive understatement

[vague lily]

I tend to use CN instead of HoTr usually

[ancient needle]

Yeah, Sparkle doesn't work properly without a Breach source

And the only actually good one is HoTr

[ancient needle]

Also, what did Thele forget in Sparkle's team

[vague lily]

Oh I see. Should I revert back to using FoV CN and RC instead?

[quick birch]

I wasnt too sure if Sena or thele was better in this I saw thele was used in some teams on qua vita in CN so I assumed she would be fine

[ancient needle]

Well, tbh I'm not sure how crippled Sparkle and RC compare
If you have some kind of copium support gear (like Turg) you can use that on HoTr

[ancient needle]

Well, that's cuz of MA timing shenanigans
Sena in World Star is not great either + you alr have a Breach source

[quick birch]

Nah like qua vita abyss

[ancient needle]

That's the first time I hear about this

Anyway, it's HoFi instead of Thele generally speaking

[quick birch]

Ainoway I forgot HoFi 💀

[vague lily]

I presume I fully upgrade all of my Coralies skills and level her up to 80?

[ancient needle]

Unless you have other valks to upgrade rn yeah

idk whether you can afford the next patch's valk, but if you can you should save some mats for that

[quick birch]

Also don't feel forced to craft senadina stigmatas since I mentioned her in the thele team, she can function without her weapon there but prism can be a bottlenecking resources

You already have a good team with vita/HoFi/coralie

[ancient needle]

A good practice is not to craft/upgrade stuff until you actually need it

[vague lily]

I am quite low in the crystal department so I'm not sure if I can get the upcoming character sadly. I'll probably stick to saving my crystals until I can guarantee the character alongside their weapon and stigmata

[ancient needle]

Yeah, skipping 8.2 is a good idea then

8.3 is expected to be the new AR type (no confirmation yet, just an educated guess)

[ancient needle]

You don't need to pull for stigs btw

[quick birch]

As I've mentioned before we can also cover p2 team building if you want so that you also understand why I suggested those teams and how you can build some teams in the future

[vague lily]

Oh, I would greatly appreciate that.I apologise for being such a bother though.

[quick birch]

Dw lol that's what these help channels are for if I wouldn't enjoy helping people I wouldn't be here

We have Astral ring specializations and support tags.

• The leader is the DPS and determines what the Astral ring Specialization of the team is.
• Now your supports want the corresponding Support tag
• RoO is a special AR type which can support all AR types but wont perform as good as Valks with the actual support tag.
  You can have a look at these guides they are with pictures and nice to understand. I do not recommend anything else from this site though.
  https://marisaimpact.com/classroom/ar1
  https://marisaimpact.com/classroom/ar2

if you prefer video explanations this is worth checking out.
https://youtu.be/VqhYRqb71Vg?si=LBGilPlCxawgxLXL

The game is a bit inconsistent and calls " tags " attributes sometimes

Just that you know

[vague lily]

Yeah I'll keep that in mind. By the way who is a LoA character? I don't think I remember that.

Just reading through the guide

[quick birch]

This is a summary of all the currently know AR types

LoA is law of ascension

Which we currently have 2 of( RS and Fws) with Sushang being the 3rd

[vague lily]

Oh is sparkle also one? Considering it revolves around QTE and her ultimate can switch her with another character.

[ancient needle]

No, Sparkle's AR type is World Star

[quick birch]

She isn't a LoA char but can support them due to her having the heavenly shift support Tag

[ancient needle]

When talking about supps you need to look at AR tags

[vague lily]

Yeah I'll look at that from now on. I had accidently read too far down and didn't realise I was reading into the heavenly shift section. Apologies

[quick birch]

Np misunderstanding can happen and you asked and we answered so all good

[vague lily]

For actual gameplay help with the teams you and Teammate recommended. I presume YouTube is the best option?

[quick birch]

About this it was just me not remembering the whole thing while sparkle was used alongside thele it was for Teri support MB should double check in the future

[ancient needle]

Yeah, you can look up references, though keep in mind that they very rarely run copium gear

[quick birch]

I never really looked at vita DPS yt refs are they doing her ani canceles

[ancient needle]

Well, it depends on whether the ref is actually good

Nirv refs absolutely do them

With RL it's hit or miss

[quick birch]

Keep in mind that rots also can change based on the boss but using refs is fine to get a general idea how to play them

[ancient needle]

Here's an ani cancel ref if you wanna: https://youtu.be/PA20eV9ceQ8?si=sbfHmkvuNBRJ1sTI

[vague lily]

Yeah. Currently outside FoV teams I'm not really knowledgeable about team rotations

[vague lily]

I just watched their video and I've gotten a general idea of how to play that team. Thanks. Just a question though, is there a reason vita (or this player specifically) waited a while before using her stellar outburst?

[ancient needle]

In this case it's not to spend time on buffing up afterwards

[haughty elbow]

because u can only ring once on that team so u need to use it at the best time

[ancient needle]

And ye, you ain't getting that second SO anytime soon with Vita DPS

[haughty elbow]

the qte cancel in the vid doesnt work anymore btw

[vague lily]

Oh yeah that makes more sense now that I think about it.

[vague lily]

QTE cancel? Apologies but I don't think I've heard about this/know what it is.

[ancient needle]

Ignore that, it was a Vita-specific bug

[haughty elbow]

look at what vita is doing every time she qtes in
its patched already tho

[vague lily]

Oh alright. I still do the same rotation that the video used usually right?

[quick birch]

Generally speaking yea, apply Hofi and coralies buffs/debuffs and DPS on vita after that

[vague lily]

Thanks. I really do appreciate the help you guys have given me.

[quick birch]

If you have any questions in the future feel free to ask

[wispy aurora]

There any talk on if they're going to be adding more characters to the Asterite shop or if there ever will be

[quick birch]

Well we had SP Chars before which would be Chars that can be acquired with asterite but that seems to be discontinued with p2 no idea if we will ever get another a rank, probably not

[frozen crypt]

The asterite shop definitely won't change as much as it used to

We'll probably get the occasional A rank as part of a double release if anything, sp valks we believe to be discontinued as the sp skill slot and astral ring skill slot are in the same place which would make it awkward

[wispy aurora]

Makes sense

[frozen crypt]

Helia will prob drop to "leave at S" in the asterite list soon we'll update it once we have 8.3 info

[wispy aurora]

I have both Helia and Coralie at SS+3

[frozen crypt]

You have both their weps +3 but not them SSS?

Huh?

[wispy aurora]

No character levels are SS+3

Im like 30ish Frags off each to SSS

[frozen crypt]

Oh, please keep in mind that +1/2/3 usually refers to weapon sync, if you're talking about ranks remove the +

[wispy aurora]

Okay

[frozen crypt]

Anyway SSS coralie is a no brainer and if you are close to SSS Helia (within 100 frags) you might as well finish it

Or if you do actually use helia for anything then SSS is fine

[wispy aurora]

Both to SSS is only 50

[frozen crypt]

Yea just finish both then its fine

[wispy aurora]

Im at like 20ish or so rn