👶beginner-help

[ancient needle]

It's just for funsies iirc

[mortal carbon]

lol yup, but after testing me and sairaan figured out that the tl;dr is that it keeps all the stuff from the core you have active, and what it really does is enable you to get white heat energy from all 4 sources at that 60% reduced rate since multiple sources, and enables the joint attack

[solar drum]

[ancient needle]

So it doesn't actually activate all 4 cores? ig I misread smth

Or misremembered

Or am I misremembering rn and there are no buffs tied to activating a specific core

[mortal carbon]

its worded weird, but yeah it doesnt enable the skills of all 4 cores, just the one you've activated but lets you get white heat energy from all sources.

it could enable all 4 cores "enhance qte" for instance, but theres no way to actually verify that because idk what that actually does

it at least doesnt enable all the skills of all 4 cores

since i had ult core active, but couldnt jump 5 times in a row mid air that the evasion core allows

but sairaan had the evasion core active, and was able to jump 5 times in a row with twins equipped

[ancient needle]

How dare they not make an OP chip

(I mean, it still should be extremely good)

[mortal carbon]

i mean, depending on your playstyle, that already is really OP

you could farm 4 sources super hard lol but yeah it and sp regen is a crazy combo from what i saw

[wooden idol]

ok there is one acievement, the highlighted one which is clear floor 43...

it's triggering me so i'mma give it another shot

[mortal carbon]

assuming you utilize the fact you can farm energy from multiple sources

[ancient needle]

If you're upgraded enough it should be trivial, maybe wait until that

Up to you ofc

[mortal carbon]

Oh i see!

[wooden idol]

Easy game, i was making a mistake using mei at lvl 66...

i learned that the weather matters a lot even in there...
Ultimate evasion core combined with ultimate cost=high for big dmg and make the main character the main dmg dealer. (time fracture) Decimated, Void Archives.

[odd plume]

just use normal attack core and spam mei combo

[spiral badge]

@solar drum from the context it sounds like you guys want the old BiS back when she was used with BKE?

Probably Gustav TM Newt B then. Although keep in mind by the time carole was already here so was HoS. CH was gone, and if she was still used then she can take paga from carole too.

Otherwise there's no real answer to this question because BiS is pointless when multiple solutions are good enough for the SS MA today.

[ancient needle]

Doing it for funsies anyway, might as well tell the modern BiS

[spiral badge]

can i get the funsies context then

[ancient needle]

Well, regardless, Heez can decide for themselves what to pursue

[spiral badge]

idk. try paga TM newt b.

[ancient needle]

Ah, now the hesitation makes sense

[spiral badge]

it wasn't hesitation. I was actually pondering lol

if you have a bleed enabler then maybe consider holmes- was what i had written but i felt holmes should be weaker

there's aladdin m too but lol

MEI wanting a shield enemy and ult doesn't make it funsies generally friendly either. CH ult sustain in modern time sucks

as for crosses boy do you have a whole catalogue to think about too

i don't want to spend more time explaining since i'm busy so consider hekate, SI, 11th, eluidnir

[ancient needle]

You meant SI's sig?

[spiral badge]

y

[ancient needle]

Anyway, thx

[sweet flax]

ch cooking?

[spiral badge]

oh right shuijing used to be used but that uptime is too short for modern p1 rots

newt b is pretty bad if you can't retrigger it with ult too, and need to CA for paga. ugh i swear there's something better

[low kestrel]

@spiral badgesairaan why u just online at night?

now it's 02:29 and u are online

[spiral badge]

you shouldn't assume other people's time zones matches yours

you might want to be wary of how people can localize where you are from that statement (but there's still alot of people in that area so it's also whatever)

anyway while today i've only been here for the last few hours because i've been busy, there's plenty of other days where i was active at other hours

[primal heron]

im from the future

[spiral badge]

maybe they saw my time from my discord screenshots. I have moved recently though

regardless of timezones, people's lives can vary too

anyway we should move on. I only entertained this question because this isn't the first time I was asked about this. But overall this is not related to ingame help

[narrow coyote]

@quick birch is it available on 69 lvl ?

Asterite investment

[hot wyvern]

LMAOOOO no way people didn't know timezone exists (sorry had to say this because it's too funny)

[ancient needle]

There is a stereotype that perfectly fits that, but it's not applicable here

[amber finch]

yes the ast shop is available at that level

[ancient needle]

It unlocks very early actually

[amber finch]

oh discord doesnt auto @ a person when i tap on their name anymore

thank god that feature was literally dogshit

[ancient needle]

Looks like it hasn't dropped for everyone yet

[amber finch]

smh never again tho

also seems like i wont +100

fws havers

[quick birch]

most asterite sources are available at that point, #👶beginner-help message give this and the messages below a read for each source and a weekly income

#👶beginner-help message also check this out for the asterite investment list in case you havent found it yet

[narrow coyote]

I can't find

[quick birch]

you just have to click the link in the message and it will take you directly to the message

[narrow coyote]

And should I buy dorm shop?

[narrow coyote]

Thx i have screenshot

Done

[quick birch]

yeah sure why not BP balls are the top priority

[narrow coyote]

Ok

[narrow coyote]

Srry i mean dorm supply

[quick birch]

there are some free dorm cards you get as you play but never spend crystals on dorm supply

[narrow coyote]

Why?

[quick birch]

old valks, many are farmbale and they all arent really of use

getting a new valk + weapon will be infinitely better

[narrow coyote]

I have only this much...

[narrow coyote]

Oh...u said slip chance of getting aponia?

What about elysia?

[quick birch]

yes and she isnt really of use

[narrow coyote]

Ok

Plus u take lil long to message...

Srry if i m rude to u

[quick birch]

MPE is farmbale anyway, HoHe isnt in dorm or obtainable outside of level Rush, all of those p1 units need insane investment to be somewhat usefull, its best if you invest in a debut valk

[quick birch]

dw you arent

[narrow coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/loading-screen-cat-gif-18391018

[narrow coyote]

Ok

[quick birch]

anything in particular you are confused about?

[narrow coyote]

MPE? P1 hohe?

What u mean i invest in deput Valkyrie?

Look like i m nub here 🥲

[quick birch]

MPE is miss pink elf and HoHe is herscher of human:ego both are elysia battlesuit, use the glossary for future abbreviations

[narrow coyote]

Oh k thx

[quick birch]

p1 is referring to all units before 7.3 the main difference is that they cant use the astral ring system.
in generall its recommended to only pull valks on their release thats a debut valk

[narrow coyote]

Okie

[quick birch]

this goes into detail why pulling valks outside of their debut patch isnt really recommended

[hasty swift]

@thick bolt can you suggest anyway i can get weapon resonance? last time i asked someone said i must have 2 of that weapon so i can only convert 1 of them

[thick bolt]

only way to get it is converting weapons.

Crafting and salvaging bounty weapons is the recommended way. You can see the category in the foundry

[sweet flax]

Foundry bounty weapons, 3rd sacred relic was suggested as the cheapest

[thick bolt]

^^

[hasty swift]

ive unlocked all the divine keys from universal mirage but the game doesnt let me convert them

[hasty swift]

oh ok

[thick bolt]

can't salvage tuned dkeys.

and you neveer want to as well, why deny global buffs

[hasty swift]

thank you

[sweet flax]

Why would you convert dkeys

Also tuned weapons can't be used as crafting materials or salvage

[hasty swift]

thank you for the suggestion

[sweet flax]

More info in mirage farming pin if needed

#👶beginner-help message

[hasty swift]

im at lvl 84 and i didnt know those mirage things til now

[sweet flax]

Better late than never

[thick bolt]

Better than me who took 4 months to realise the divine key room was scrollable

[sweet flax]

I only found out judah was craftable this year

[wanton canopy]

[hasty swift]

can someone explain the forth one?

[hasty swift]

what

oh it is

[sweet flax]

Abyss and fenghuang pinions are craftable dkeys, but on their own they are useless
Unless you already own abyss flower (to benefit from crafting abyss) or fenghuang down/brick (to benefit from crafting pinions)

The only thing they are used for is syncing

[wanton canopy]

They are hard to craft too btw..mm

[sweet flax]

Which is not possible with 1 dkey

[sweet flax]

Not really

It just becomes a hassle

[wanton canopy]

I mean lens need weeks from adventure tasks

Hate them

[sweet flax]

(Just have a bunch of them saved up)

[hasty swift]

the emblem?

[sweet flax]

[sweet flax]

What emblem?

[sweet flax]

#invite-links-here

[hasty swift]

is it this thing?

[narrow coyote]

Oh k thx

[wanton canopy]

I only have 20 of them atm and already 4 months playing(well cuzz I'm not focusing on thrn anyway)

[sweet flax]

That's something else, you get that emblem for entering/retaining redlotus (an abyss rank)

[narrow coyote]

What is EU?

[thick bolt]

purple lens? Can buy with asterite if it's urgent

[sweet flax]

European region
NA is north America

[narrow coyote]

Oh...

[sweet flax]

While both are global they are separate in rewards

[narrow coyote]

Oh thx

[hasty swift]

do you know which one is better for purple kiana?
in the name of finality or king of conquerors

[sweet flax]

Finality set is no longer used as her main set as her new set that came with her dkey is much stronger

[narrow coyote]

Wut is SEA?

[sweet flax]

Also, her new set allows her to support hoo dps better

[hasty swift]

south east asia

[sweet flax]

South East Asia

[narrow coyote]

Ok

[sweet flax]

Keep in mind the new set requires the dkey to work

[narrow coyote]

Since i m from india do I use SEA?

[sweet flax]

It's based on the region you're playing in

[hasty swift]

wait waxing moon is a divine key?

[sweet flax]

Yes

[narrow coyote]

Oh k

[slim blaze]

bah

who's the next boss anyways

oh shit

fire abyss ok im cooked

[naive pivot]

why

[sweet flax]

No sparkle or teri = demoot

It's that time of the patch

[slim blaze]

no hanabi/teriri in nirv

[naive pivot]

but it's fire weather then why not other fire user

[sweet flax]

Quantum enemy

[slim blaze]

no lamp also

no FoV

[sweet flax]

Fws cope

[naive pivot]

just brute force it

[autumn oxide]

hope i hv an acc to use htr fws spark on

Prayge

[frozen crypt]

Compared to dudu yeah garbij but a pretty comfy RL retain

[autumn oxide]

haha ure garbij

[slim blaze]

that doesn't matter when everyone and their mother and their brother and their grandma has 13/13 sparkle team kekw

[autumn oxide]

my sonk vita thel outscored it uniornically

ohno

[naive pivot]

then just hope they don't have it

[slim blaze]

lmao

[sweet flax]

Hope players don't have sparkle?

[slim blaze]

nice joke

[naive pivot]

yes

[sweet flax]

Is this your first sparkle weather?

[naive pivot]

no i just haven't paid attention

[primal sky]

hey, is this bugged?
I don't see any other missions to do get the final rewards

[slim blaze]

next week

[sweet flax]

Refreshes weekly (tmrw)

Or was it refreshed on friday

i forgor

[primal sky]

thank you

[mortal carbon]

I agree its an impressive score with them!

[frozen crypt]

Teammate didn't roast it so it must be alright

[mortal carbon]

teammate approved

[lone crater]

op

[solar drum]

does anyone know which version this came out from

found an alt i totally forgot about

[quick birch]

wasnt this 6.0

[solar drum]

it also had a bunch of sakura material too

[quick birch]

old upgrade materials iirc, no idea when they were removed though

[slim blaze]

do you want me to remind you

TWIN SAKURA WILL, TWIN TOKIWA WILL, TWIN OCEAN WILL, TWIN HURRICANE WILL

SUPER ALLOY SHIELD, TESLA TURBINE, PHASE SHIFTER

and worse of all base

kekw

i rest my case

[solar drum]

honkai clash of clans

oops

[quick birch]

[solar drum]

wrong one

[solar drum]

honkai clash of clans

[gloomy acorn]

You forgor skill points to upgrade valk skills

[slim blaze]

you mean treadmill

[gloomy acorn]

Yeah it gives the valk skill points

[spiral badge]

I just wish the base bgm was still in the menus of the game

[rotund pasture]

Who should I use on which MA boss?

[shadow gyro]

can throw the herrscher trio into rimestar
badum, que, hohe with the sd guy
any against hellmaru unless you care about the score
i don't remember if hellmaru got any strategy aside from using an ice valk against it

[shadow gyro]

no wait ignore hellmaru i mistaked this one

[slim blaze]

hellmaru? it's AKA

kekw

[shadow gyro]

yeah she's bio so just throw a mech valk at her
hor ig

[slim blaze]

for SS MA just cook stuff

[shadow gyro]

since i remember this user have some gear for hor and jk

[rotund pasture]

Ty

[hasty swift]

why they only give me 14 crystalyte(i didnt take a screenshot of the reward)

[thick bolt]

you sure it wasn't just 8 + 14
to confirm you can just go to the ai-phone -> support -> self-search -> material and check how much you got from the logs

[rotund pasture]

Trio is pain, they got powercrept so bad missing 1 reward

[rotund pasture]

But ice is bad against her

[abstract sequoia]

Do you have them full gear?

[quick birch]

dkey missing

[abstract sequoia]

yeah no wonder

[quick birch]

afaik

[abstract sequoia]

can only try old trio strats but can't expect more

[shadow gyro]

ss aka is easy, you should still make do without any issue
and honestly unless you really care about the ranking ut doesn't matter how fast do you defeat her

• type advantage
  otherwise you can just use any option really

[shadow gyro]

you don't have waxing moon right?

[rotund pasture]

The AR weap? No

[shadow gyro]

make sense, she's kinda meh without it nowadays

i still assume that just looking at a trio ref should still help exp ull have 0 access to the ar bits

[abstract sequoia]

i mean for MA old refs will still apply

with the same score expectations

unless there is some hidden Disturbance that I don't know of

[rotund pasture]

I dont understand, sorry

[hasty swift]

i dont think they log phantom grey crytalyte

i scrolled to yesterday yet found none

think ill wait for invite mirage cards then retry some to see if they still give me 14 crystalyte

[shadow gyro]

basically you can take a look at any herrscher trio ref for rimestar (ma) but the runs im seeing are all using waxing moon so you can still follow them but you won't have access to the astra ring bit so you would just do thr normal combos that hofi does

[prisma fiber]

Who should I use for MA #1 and #2?

[rotund pasture]

Whats wrong with the ingame rotations? I though thats what youre supposed to use. Also I cant read the small texts on the left side of the screen in game

[ancient needle]

They can be extremely basic (like, for example, you don't always want all 3 stacks on HoTr), and they can omit info (like needing to CA before ult after transforming for the second time and onwards)

[rotund pasture]

Ohhh ok i always do the full stacks on hotr and full animation to get the sp

[shadow gyro]

assuming that all of these valks are 4/4
fws, jds, sparkle for the sd boss
lantern, thelema, sena/vita
i don't remember if rimestar got a type but this can do
can also put dudu with the fws team to do sparkle, vita, hofi
try the lantern team in training mode to get a feel about how the run will go

[thick bolt]

lantern thel sena gets full rewards at least, 39.2k+

thel evades in transition speeds ring up

[sweet flax]

if p1 lantern can get all rewards then ye she'll be fine (dont ask further)

[prisma fiber]

I finished about 15 mins ago

[thick bolt]

[prisma fiber]

But right why I didn’t think of fws for Sd

[shadow gyro]

ah

[low kestrel]

someone help me think what teams i use here

that's my valks

[quick birch]

you can go
fws/jds/hohe
lantern/thele/sena
for aka it depends if you care about ranking and want a 0 sec clear otherwise its not really relevant

[low kestrel]

okay

[quick birch]

just clear it with what ever if you dont mind ranking that much

[cloud viper]

quick question, what is a "soul"?

Is it something like fragments, or does it let me auto unlock a valkyrie? I'm a little confused

[quick birch]

its like fragments for awakened valks ( old system that was discontinued )

[cloud viper]

Awakened? Uhh that means leveled up valks, right?

[quick birch]

no awakened valks shared levels and some skills with other valks, they dont really use that system these days

[cloud viper]

I see. Any advice on which one I should choose then? Or should I just refrain from it for now?

[ancient needle]

Unlock all valks in ER -> unlock others -> get all to S (for Dorm EXP) -> pick 1 to get to SSS and farm Witch Orbs with

[cloud viper]

I'm trying to avoid ER as much as I can until I complete teh story to a level where I wont get spoilered or I can at least properly enjoy it

[ancient needle]

Fair enough, the order still applies

[cloud viper]

Any advice on which Valk I should unlock with this one? I have two, so I could probably unlock at least one of the 30 fragment options

[ancient needle]

Just refer to the Asterite Investment List in the pins

If you're alr done with it lemme know

Ah, you aren't even close

[cloud viper]

Don't have Coralie, so I guess I'll get her fragments

[quick birch]

do i see 148k asterite

[cloud viper]

Yeah, outside of bare minimum stig upgrades I've given myself a policy to not expend resources on anything until I have the story completed

Well, that and dumping gold into leveling up valks I use the most, since the skill upgrades and gold seem to be pretty easy to come across

[quick birch]

fair, have fun on your (long) journey

[cloud viper]

Coralie get. Now she shall sit at level 1 until I decide to actually start tryharding on resource investment

Also gotta say part 2 Valks are really something. I been using sparkle and she hard carries me through lower level endgame content like q manifold and memorial arena

[cloud viper]

another reason im trying not to invest too much is bc everyone says part 2 valkyries are where its at and part 1 valks are not worth it anymore

[quick birch]

early game can be cleared by basically anything if your sparkle is properly geared shes expected to get you through it.

and yeah investing too much into p1 valks isnt really a good idea, although since you didnt hat coralie before, leveling her and getting her weapon from the beginning of p2 story ( those chapters dont include p1 spoilers, they both start to connect with each other at chapter 3EX iirc) is a nice idea since she also works with sparkle

[cloud viper]

Also how do I use energy? It says I can use it to get asterite, so since I have it maxed I should probably spend some of it so its not just going to waste

[quick birch]

you would refine materials in your inventory, only do that if you have an excess of those mats. energy is nothing to be worried about if its capped

[cloud viper]

oh so refining basically lets me get rid of extra materials in exchange for asterite

but can only be done so when using energy?

[quick birch]

it can be done without energy but you will get less asterite and it's just a waste really

[cloud viper]

So probably something to be done only after I have everyone leveled up. Good to know

Thank you for the assistance, I appreciate it

[quick birch]

np if you have any questions any time feel free to ask

[broken marsh]

what is the "small chance" like is it worth using those or using the second thing to just unlock the second affix

[ancient needle]

Just use the mf really

You'll have an excess of them in the future anyway

[broken marsh]

what does mf stand for?

[ancient needle]

Not smth related to HI3
Just use the second thing

[broken marsh]

alr thx

is there any upside/downside to x10 rolls or is it just time spent clicking the button lol

[ancient needle]

The latter, also you risk overspending a bit

[broken marsh]

okay, thanks

[ancient needle]

Here's general affixing info: #👶beginner-help message

[lime talon]

which one do i pick

also why is this my first time seeing this

[calm kernel]

first time you unlock an open world you get free access to it for 2 weeks

[lime talon]

wdym

[lime talon]

hows it any diff from the normal adventure task i do every week

[thick bolt]

You can normally only unlock one world to do the adv tasks in per week.

The first 2 weeks of each world just gives you free access without that restriction

[exotic hound]

hi guys i really wanna start playing but the game seems very overwhelming, do you guys have any tips for starting out?

[lime talon]

which do i pick tho

[thick bolt]

I suggest starting with account progression pointers. The relevant banner for this patch is over so you can save up and familiarize yourself with the game till next patch.
Best advice I can give is frequently using this channel for any question you may have and checking the pins relevant to you (i.e what you wanna know about)

Early on is just spamming story while everything gets unlocked so not like there's any min maxing. You get Herrscher of the Void on day 2 login, her plus whatever else you get from the starter book should tide you through to lvl 70 at least.

!faq lost

[small willow]

Feeling Lost?

I got this, Captain!

The following guides are a good starting point to help you feel like you know what you're supposed to be doing as Captain of the Hyperion!

See the channel pins of #👶beginner-help for more:

• Account Progression Pointers: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• What to pull right now: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• Valkyries you should buy for Asterite: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!
• Clearing up misconceptions about the meta: [Click here](#👶beginner-help message)!

[quick birch]

It's not game breaking who you pick but iirc apho has a slightly higher chance for the crystal missions

[thick bolt]

You'd want to complete Sakura Samsara storyline at least. If that's done just full on switch to Apho

[exotic hound]

ahh okay tysm!

[lime talon]

idk what that is but ok

[thick bolt]

2nd map in your screenshot is apho

[boreal prism]

What's this?

[frozen crypt]

The pack in general or the jingwei parts?

The pack isn't recommended to buy until you have a lot of coins (I'd say 7m+ minimum) and its only worth it for the materials

Jingwei is an ELF, and A rank ELFs haven't been useful for a long time so don't invest into it at all

[sweet flax]

Even then it's not like those mats are rare

Manual also provides them

[ancient needle]

These 50 frags can be converted into Witch Orbs tbf but it's not a beginner concern really

[sweet flax]

Can you convert elf frags that aren't full ranked up?

[boreal prism]

Ok 😭

[ancient needle]

Just don't buy it for now

[frozen crypt]

A rank ones yeah

[ancient needle]

But I think you need to unlock the shop first (not sure here)

[frozen crypt]

I don't remember

[sweet flax]

Well you'd need to get the currency to unlock the shop

[frozen crypt]

Chicken or egg situation

[sweet flax]

[slim blaze]

Wow witch orb farming

[obsidian quartz]

Im suffering on this restart account

no real bronya units

im suffering

[left vale]

you should be able to get silverwing from the box soon, yes?

and you can get HB for free

[obsidian quartz]

What box 😭

[quick birch]

S rank selector box for 8 days log in

[left vale]

the daily login thing. did it disappear already

[obsidian quartz]

oh that box

[quick birch]

HoR is also free from WT

[left vale]

yeah you can get every bronya unit except hotr for free

[obsidian quartz]

But thats alot

[quick birch]

not that they are of any use lol

[left vale]

silverwing should carry you through the beginning

[quick birch]

SW can be nice as a beginner but you would replace her with your first newer gacha s rank

[left vale]

if you want a bronya team you could use silverwing/hb/rc

[obsidian quartz]

[naive pivot]

use TA instead of RC since she looks and sounds like a bronya at least

[deft orbit]

can someone recomend me something to pull for for heavenly shift type ar (assuming i missed dudu kia vita and basically all the keystones of p2) aka how long ill have to save

[naive pivot]

the one next patch probably

[deft orbit]

does anyone here know how to play mobius er (controls)
i wanna get my level 15 crystals lmao

[naive pivot]

why do these both just have the exact same description

[left vale]

i dont know honestly, i noticed it too and my best guess was that the description just fit them both really well??

[haughty elbow]

but it doesnt

[left vale]

ohhhh thats right it doesnt

[naive pivot]

oh wait

[left vale]

very small detail but 1 is for countering (think psy vs mech) and 2 is for countered (think psy vs bio)

[naive pivot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/670822620651978794/1065939672221622383/468.gif

[left vale]

it may be the other way around

i do think its the other way around. its kinda hard to tell

[runic canopy]

Other way around. Barely anyone uses Griseo1, Griseo2 is OP

[naive pivot]

ok good that's the one i picked

maybe that's why the boss just disappeared in like 10 seconds

[left vale]

errr most use griseo1

[runic canopy]

I live on other universe then

[left vale]

https://rentry.org/ElysianRealm see for urself

[haughty elbow]

i dont even use the builds from that website

[odd plume]

too lazy to find my own build, i only use coralie anyway

[ancient needle]

Yes, probs because you just play Helia every week

[eternal pond]

Assuming I made a new acc to play on, get the beginner experience and stuff

What kind of goals or things should I try accomplishing

Assuming I keep working on it

[runic canopy]

you ask in meta sense...?

[eternal pond]

Anything really

Just something achievable

[runic canopy]

overinvesting in one team you love go <- this is a half-joke, if you want to do it, do it, but very not recommended as general beginner tips.

otherwise, build one AR team, slowly. with how AR system works, you can build 2 teams with just 5 completely geared valkyries or less.

[naive pivot]

read this shit i guess #👶beginner-help message

[runic canopy]

noted that you only pull the latest valkyrie and build your team also based on the latest valkyries. backpulling is not recommended now.

[naive pivot]

what do you mean "now", when was it ever

[sweet flax]

Vita 1st rerun, thel 1st rerun are the last 2 i remember

Rare cases do exist that justify backpulling, but we shouldn't use them as excuses

[naive pivot]

vita maybe, i don't remember anyone talking about thelema though

[sweet flax]

Either thel or sena

Either way most players skipped lantern

[naive pivot]

oh yeah sena

that sounds more like it

[ancient needle]

P2 was too new so it was hard to recommend Sena either iirc

[naive pivot]

[sweet flax]

There was also the argument that unless you had helia weapon or thelema she was skippable

[naive pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/disappear-meme-disappear-cat-vanish-i-give-up-gif-18022368093503257471

[steep drift]

How much time do you guys take out of your day to do abyss? I want to limit that time for myself and I’m trying to get a reasonable range first.

[hot wyvern]

Why would you limit yourself

Like I'll try to get as high as possible no matter how long

[sweet flax]

Depends on your goals, but I'll usually play until I get a score i like and during my free time improve that score

[ancient needle]

Mental health?

[slim blaze]

Real life

[ancient needle]

Gotta ask the casuals for that
@naive pivot

[ancient needle]

And Berw, ye

[slim blaze]

HAHAHA

Wdym

Ok to be fair

RL retain isnt a challenge for me. So sometimes i just do one run and leave

And my work schedule is weird

[lavish quiver]

I do whatever I feel like in a given week, but I try to at least go for a good score when I have a team that fits the weather well

Well maybe not good always but at least decent

[thick bolt]

Depends on how much time I have/wanna do abyss.
Usually just a single run and if I know I can promote or the score isn't retaining/was too scuffed, a couple more to reach that threshold if possible.

[steep drift]

Alright, ty guys for the answers

[lone crater]

1hr max

for the entire thing

[abstract sequoia]

Just for abyss alone I'd say between 1-2 hours on a good day. However it can be longer if I want to get a personally difficult rotation or tech done or if I'm really malding for top 3. This time also includes reviewing my recordings to see what I could've done wrong, as well as asking for help and trying to apply that advice. In those cases it can consume most of my time with 4-6 hours, but that's just me being really slow on applying what I've learned and everything inbetween.

[grim sinew]

how can I do the weekly quiz twice so I can complete the bp mission?

[gloomy acorn]

How do fire tona no sparkle

Waiting 2nd collapse so long

I farmed up an entire 2nd SO while waiting for it

[hollow tartan]

Can only do once per week

[sweet flax]

Trial stage

[naive pivot]

at least I got sent back to a3 so hopefully it'll be fine unless whale wally takes over my bracket again

[sweet flax]

The quiz is 1 part, the trial stage is the 2nd part (quick lite completes both)

[calm kernel]

could be 30 minutes if i dont like the boss, could be 6 hours if the fight is interesting

like the upcoming aponia will probably be 1-2 tries and play smth else

[wintry wharf]

agree

[eternal pond]

Finally

I also have her other weapon but I didn't know if it was better so I don't use it

But queen himeko finally got her full set

[ancient needle]

(it is better)

Also she doesn't run this set afaik

Yeah, some buffs of it are tied to Herrscher Form

[sweet flax]

himeko set is for hofs

[ancient needle]

The Little Joys set should be best on her

[sweet flax]

if she has ignite and you have tfm, you can get away with little joys

[sweet flax]

surtr > uriel?

[ancient needle]

I meant that Uriel is better

[sweet flax]

ah kk

[eternal pond]

Lowk just started using the set bc it had himeko on it and it had the best score out of my others stigmatas on her

[sweet flax]

score isnt a good indicator, here's a really valid reason why

hotr stigmata has a higher score than hohe's own stig on hohe

(ofc she has her new set, so it doesnt matter anymore, but the point still stands)

[quick birch]

In general don't trust hoyos ingame recommendations most of the time they are outdated or wrong

They don't feel the need to update their team recommendation for a specific valk for example

Iirc SW still runs HB and RC according to hoyo

[sweet flax]

they updated elysia's funnily enough, just forgot the kira

[sweet flax]

ae not rc 💀

[quick birch]

💀

[sweet flax]

AINT NO WAY

[quick birch]

💀 what..

what is hoyo smoking

[sweet flax]

idk but I need more of this

let hoyo cook 😭

lurkers and beginners, please never rely on ingame tools for reliable information

[urban lake]

LMAO

[urban lake]

I want to see what the rot even would be for this train wreck xd

[slim blaze]

double breach duh. that way you dont have to rotate 2 supports, only one at the time then go back to DPS ASAP

[sweet flax]

As if jk won't have near perfect uptime on her breach

But surely hoyo knows the game better than the players

[quick birch]

[sweet flax]

well ill say its not as bad as da being recommended bb

but its definitely something

[shadow gyro]

can someone suggest me which overworld to unlock for this week?
all the main story and side story (that i didn't mention) are done for these OWs

[hazy depot]

Why are these things so hard to defeat

[slim blaze]

low level maybe?

but hey, death by a thousand cuts right

[calm kernel]

just do apho2 for best reward. now that we got LITE its no brainer

[shadow gyro]

will do

[abstract sequoia]

was the strat different before LITE?

[calm kernel]

well not really but i was lazy so i just did sakura often

cause you could instantly teleport to each objective and mobs died in one hit

[abstract sequoia]

i can see why

that and that one soup that gives you god know how much movement speed

[modest heath]

guys will herrscher of finality get a rerun again soon? i didn't get to get her weapon

[abstract sequoia]

you just missed her adv

[calm kernel]

yea but the movement speed even mostly useless cause you could literally just click an task on the map and it would teleport you directly on top of it

unless it was the task to go capture the fox spirit or smth like that

[modest heath]

will it take too long for her to rerun again? cuz for example I'm seeing sparkle every patch now ig

[calm kernel]

we dont know

[abstract sequoia]

the pattern sample for stellar key reruns is too small right now to know

all we have right now is waxing moon and flawless benediction that came out literally this patch

[modest heath]

yea well alright, I'll wait then thank you!

[abstract sequoia]

#💁gameplay-help and #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion usually has pins for current and upcoming banner schedules, so keep a lookout for those

[modest heath]

sure, thank you so much for the help!

[quick birch]

Valks usually rerun more often the newer they are, and they usually get a rerun the patched after they were released. HoFi is a bit old now so who knows when and if we will see a rerun

[shadow gyro]

tbf i didn't ask because of the lite part since i just use that but because i still had small things to finish in these OWs that are mentioned in the pic
so i just wanted to pick the most efficient one
but yeah might as well do apho 2

[abstract sequoia]

apho 2 is your best option even with your progress

[shadow gyro]

atp i don't know if the extra crystals in the samsara OW is worth the grind

[shadow gyro]

since there's the random crystals in the adventure tasks and the samsara rewards in the adventure tasks are on the low end

[modest heath]

ow man, yea i remember when i asked about hohe some time ago no one knew if she'd even get a rerun again, just can hope now...

[quick birch]

|| hohe will be available in the new BP for free it will just take a long time to farm as a f2p and there are more valuable things||

[abstract sequoia]

still holds true, but with hofi it was pretty much just her appearing in last spending event

[abstract sequoia]

[quick birch]

||If we assume 9 weeks a patch it will take you nearly a year just for the valk ||

[modest heath]

ohh that's nice, i got her awhile ago for free tho but that's still cool!

[abstract sequoia]

you're on the better end of the stick then

[quick birch]

Yeah lol

[modest heath]

hahah.. hah....

[modest heath]

yee got lucky haha

but well thank you guys again, have a great day/night!

[abstract sequoia]

you too and np

[humble sail]

Guys which s valk part 2 should i get?

[shadow gyro]

for now save for the next patch
you can come and ask again (note that there's a pulling guide in the pins that will be updated so check it first when 8.2 comes out)

[humble sail]

I don't have any s valk part 2 😭

I just come back

[shadow gyro]

that's fine, you would eventually build a team
for now unlock coralie and get her weapon from the first part of part 2
you'll use her as a filler for your part 2 teams that you'll make in the future

[shadow gyro]

if you're a returnee i suggest checking this, especially if you want to pursue meta or want to be more efficient with your account
It's by no means required but its very helpful #💁gameplay-help message

[humble sail]

Ty😭

[urban lake]

hey stupid question but whos better for World Star AR, SS DS or S Teri op?

[humble sail]

I have lunar should i put coralie in her team?

[shadow gyro]

no coralie doesn't support lunar vow

[urban lake]

no answer

[humble sail]

Lunar still meta?

[shadow gyro]

pretty sure its ds bc teri will only really offer extra ar
can check https://youtu.be/rMbk0aZJy10?si=UiTgObXaR0xO-wJL

[urban lake]

ok THNX

[urban lake]

only for bleed pretty sure, for now

[shadow gyro]

niche rn
next version ||we'll get a bleed valk so her sure may become even low||

[urban lake]

yeah exactly

[humble sail]

Ouch, i need 16 spin for a s valk

[shadow gyro]

not to say that said new unit will replace her they're still different but because both of them are ||bleed|| more ppl will go for that character and luna will have even less use as her uniqueness rn is not that strong anymore

[shadow gyro]

you still have time to grind, and you'll even have more crystals to get if you decided to use a new account
up to you

regardless of what did you decide you can use #👶beginner-help message to know of any crystal sources that you missed

[humble sail]

For new account im too lazy :((

[normal bolt]

Hmm... Is there enough information out about new Sushang to know if she's good to pull or not?

For new account I mean

[shadow gyro]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion got decent info
i suggest reading the pins in that channel
do you want more info about astra ring and such?

[humble sail]

Shold i create a new account? Im very very weak now

[shadow gyro]

i see, tbh i still feel like you'll still get more crystals in that account even if you don't spend a lot of time everyday, you'll probably have to skip the story if you want to save time
you will be able to reach level 80 in a month or so anyways
you can still use the message i linked to see what stuff can you grind with your current account

[normal bolt]

Yeah, that'll be good I guess? I'm a returnee from when Part 2 was first released so like. My knowledge was stuck to when Sena was first released, even if I did pull Kianya new year in my old account

[humble sail]

Im lv 81

[shadow gyro]

do you mind sending images about your valk, stigmata and weapon inventory? preferably in an imgur if its a lot of pictures
for the valks you can sort by release and show all up to hohe or a valk from 6.0 and after
for stigmatas just show the 4* stigmatas, same with the weapons

[humble sail]

Wait

[shadow gyro]

this will help
#💁gameplay-help message
there's also a message before it with a video guide if that's more useful for you
ill spare you one thing tho, the new valk and sena dont share tags to support eachother so you would just use them in different cases, if you don't have any other part 2 valk then you can use coralie for both as a filler and if you already have helia leveled then you can use her with sena

otherwise you can also show me more about your current process, basically the same stuff im asking from the other user

[humble sail]

Loading so long

[normal bolt]

shakes head nah, it's fine. I was just checking stuff out with my old account when I pulled Badum Kiana, right now I've decided to raise a new account to get acquainted with everything again instead

So haven't really pulled anything yet in new account

[shadow gyro]

ahh i see, yeah for now just save
i also suggest taking your time looking at this channel's pins to see what else that you need to do

[shadow gyro]

the only really valuable things that you have are lunar vow with her gear and asuka (just bc she's not obtainable anymore, she's unused in the current meta)
the rest isn't a big deal

you can keep the account and try seeing what's left for you to finish but i suggest just keeping this account for collection and making a different one where you can focus on efficient stuff and you can always go back to this account to see what you have
you can either play in a different server or just make a new email, up to you
just know that you'll have to grind very hard on your old account if you wanna catch up with meta since your lunar vow doesn't have a complete team to keep up

also lunar vow is kinda old now anyways

[humble sail]

Yeah I know, asuka is valuable 🤣

[shadow gyro]

yeah lmao

[humble sail]

If i create a new account I will get bored of this game very quickly

[slim blaze]

kekw

[humble sail]

Cuz i don't want to play story back

[humble sail]

Keke bewa

[shadow gyro]

unless you're ok with skipping or don't mind a story refresher a new account has a higher value tbh
i assume you already cleared a lot of the part 1 story right? its understandable then you can use the old account but you'll still have more trouble trying to catch up but it should still be okay

[humble sail]

Thank for help

[golden arrow]

hey y'all, just wanted to ask what I should spend my asterite on (I have every valk which is purchasable there, already bought willpower & torus)

maxed coralie too

[runic canopy]

Already SSS all too?

You can check pins there is a guide for this iirc

[golden arrow]

did the ones above

[slim blaze]

coralie mod parts i guess. just use spare asterite

[golden arrow]

aight ty

[shadow gyro]

if you didn't max ur dorm level i would rank some valks for it
mainly sp valks, don't need to use them just for this tho

[golden arrow]

dorm lvl 26 atm, will probably do that too

I use coralie often so I would get her mod parts ig

[slim blaze]

mod parts isnt a super priority btw

pretty sure coralie sync 1 is like 2% dmg diff from sync 3 lol

[normal bolt]

Hmm. Can I switch HoRe with Susannah/Griseo(smol) for these?

Cuz like. New account, budget bleed

[golden arrow]

😭

well then the 120k asterite isn't worth it that much

[slim blaze]

im just saying dont make it a super priority

[shadow gyro]

yeah the mod part is too expensive and u got dorm level to do first
do that then if you don't need anything else dump it on Coralie's mod part

[slim blaze]

im tempted to buy beach dorm

just because

[shadow gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[slim blaze]

uh huh

[shadow gyro]

gimme the crystals instead/j

[golden arrow]

mhm

[white carbon]

guys can I get 8k before this patch ends? I had 9k but spent it all to build pity bc it refreshed..

[quick birch]

pity shouldnt refresh if you pull on the battlesuit or equipment banner unless you get an S rank / the weapon and pity building also isnt really recommended

also use this to calculate how many crystals your gonna get

[quick birch]

on valk banner its honestly fine if you always keep something in the tank to pull the weapon, although its best to pull the valk on day 1. For example a scenario of "pity building" is pulling with 30k crystals you are expected to pull the valk while still having enough to guarantee weapon, if you dont you can try to get the valk in the remaining time or you have pity for a new valk. Doing the discounted above 50 pity is essentially also pity building because you just get more pulls for a lower price. Pity building on weapon banner can be a lot more akward because you will loose out on some stigs and if you get unlucky you would have to craft the stigs for essentially double the cost +600 ether fuel

also if you are " building pity " only do it on banners you will actually benefit from

[hot wyvern]

If you have nothing else to farm from, impossible

[quick birch]

mainly debut banners

[hot wyvern]

We probably won't even get 5k

[slim blaze]

i wish there was a mass select option sometimes ngl

[tulip nova]

Guys

[slim blaze]

whoops

[tulip nova]

HoR SS3 or HoT SS2

[slim blaze]

maybe hoT?

ah

well

do people use this

feels useless, or maybe idk

maybe HoR SS3?

[tulip nova]

ahh my missing 3 S keks

[slim blaze]

did i miss a mission or smth. or the earliest we can do 12/12 missions is next week

[tulip nova]

Oh one more

[quick birch]

earliest is next week

[tulip nova]

Not that I'd use them anyways

[slim blaze]

yeah math checks out

maybe just get BKE for ER lel

[tulip nova]

I'll keep them for now, who knows I might get one from dorm kekw

Just missing these

[shadow gyro]

aponia, memento and dudu are useful for er shallow sequence
you can wait if youre close to getting a valk from dorm

[rotund pasture]

Is there anything useful to get from stigma resonance or essence or whatever its called? (the red stuff u get for trashing stigmas)

[shadow gyro]

mei beach and newt b but they're not necessary and depends on the niche that u want to fill
you can always save the reso and buy then you really need it

the only important thing from the exchange shop is judah that u wanna grind bounty weapons to get wp reso for judah

[rotund pasture]

oh ye i got that alr i think

[shadow gyro]

that's good, nothing else is important really

[slim blaze]

i love it when every death becomes a spider bomb haha, took out last wave in one go

[heady robin]

hi pretty new player, was very on/off with hi3 at the beginning of this year so the account is obvs very barebones. currently sitting in agony 3 and am just about able to brute force a lot with LP but was wondering if next sushang will make sense for me? will have enough by then to guarantee her + gear. or should i hold off considering i dont have her bis supports? i'm really feeling the lack of strong physical/bleed options (sorry if its too early to ask about her, trying to understand which valks to focus on)

[ancient needle]

You probs won't be able to afford Sushang in the first place unless you have a lot of one-time crystal sources left

Either way it's best to wait for 8.3 info in your case

[heady robin]

i have 20 pulls til guaranteed on valk banner so it should just about add up from what i calculated

[hasty bobcat]

Who do I go for

[ancient needle]

1. You're too broke
2. Neither, wait for the next patch

[hasty bobcat]

Idk I kinda want sparkle just cause she’s cool but idk

[ancient needle]

Well, keep in mind Sparkle won't be as useful long-term

And as I've alr said you literally can't get her + weap

[quick birch]

especially when you cant get her weapon which is your case. you are simply too broke and backpulls arent recommended in general

damn i'm too slow

[slim blaze]

while i appreciate your capacity to dream big, it is better to set our expectations to reality.
you just flat broke

54 rolls to pity, and roughly 21 rolls, the math ain't mathing

[heady robin]

what should i be looking out for with 8.3 info to decide? whether it'll be a potential sushang teammember or not?

[hot wyvern]

8 tickets

[slim blaze]

what about weapon?

[hot wyvern]

Good question, maybe they have tickets and pity built

[slim blaze]

the fact is, they just flat broke

[ancient needle]

Nah, it most likely will be the new AR type that has been teased for a while alr

What I meant by waiting for 8.3 info is that you'll be able to decide whether to pull 8.2 or 8.3

[heady robin]

ahh so if new AR type then prioritise 8.3

[slim blaze]

POV: it's 8.2
wait for 8.4 news to see if 8.3 is worth pulling

[ancient needle]

Yeah, but ideally ask again here ofc

[slim blaze]

thankfully 8.2 is 9 weeks

[thick bolt]

longer patch, don't have to do that much anymore

[slim blaze]

heh

[heady robin]

lol ty

i'll ask again in two months

[low kestrel]

@ancient needlewhen is the next updt?

[thick bolt]

check schedule in #💁gameplay-help or #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins

[low kestrel]

i don't find

[thick bolt]

#💁gameplay-help message

[abstract sequoia]

Last pin in #💁gameplay-help 2nd pin in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[cyan dune]

What does this mean?

[wanton canopy]

You basically choose what open world is open per week.

[cyan dune]

Do the rewards change at all?

[ancient needle]

Yes, APHO's are better, though you do wanna get Samsara's lvl to 16-18 eventually (you'll get access to the level system once you finish all story and side missions)

[wanton canopy]

I believe apho has the best rewards on adventure task. But be sure to do samsara and schikscal story missions for xtals

[ancient needle]

Though prioritize progressing in APHO first

[golden dune]

Any team I can do with these characters ?

[ancient needle]

Not really, and at this level solo LV will dominate even without gear

Keep in mind it's very strongly recommended to get a new acc though, I assume it's pretty old

Your current valks are not valuable at all atp and you'll get back to lvl 36 in a couple hours

Here are some team comp options for new accs (ignore Silverwing): #👶beginner-help message

[wispy aurora]

Back to Redlotus I go sigh...

Only went down due to bad weathers and no coverage

[golden dune]

Thanks, its not rlly an old acc I just fear I got unlucky 😔 who is LV ?

[ancient needle]

Lunar Vow: Crimson Love

Unless you somehow have Starter Manual this acc is too old

[golden dune]

I started 1 month ago

[ancient needle]

Ah, that's fine then

[undone helm]

hey everyone, im starting now the elysian realm and i notice that you have 2 options for sigils. how do i know what to pick?

i even looked at the pin for elysian realm but cant figure it out

[thick bolt]

You mean the new ER event? With 4 character options?
For that you choose playstyles i.e one of their 2 builds. You can check the ER guide in the pins on how to play and on what signets go for each build.

oh nvm sigils.

[ancient needle]

Well, in regular gameplay you pick Core signets after getting 3 of the regular ones, right

[thick bolt]

commit read moment, anyways guide has the sigils listed like for example these for badum

[ancient needle]

Here it's the same, you just get everything at the same time

[undone helm]

ok i see. thank you

[thick bolt]

@autumn trench
Relevant banners for this patch is over. Highly recommended to wait for next patch (on 24th Apr) and pull for the new suit. Don't pull starter banner, not good since the unit is comparatively old and not worth in contrast to getting a newer one.

As for the box, check the channel pins

[neat crow]

is there a f2p build for both Carole and HoS to support my PE Durandal?

[wild bolt]

not sure which channel this should go in - i haven't finished the main story yet, i'm still on p1. does after the blood moon fades have spoilers, or is it like an unrelated AU story or smth?

[outer spruce]

unrelated event story

[ancient needle]

Well, all of their sig gear except SnS's weap is farmable, but it'll take a long while and this a pretty terrible team anyway (very dated)

[neat crow]

this team was literally under recommended

[ancient needle]

And that's why you don't check that

[neat crow]

tbh i just came back after years and dont know what to do lmao

[outer spruce]

recommended teams are not updated

[ancient needle]

If PE is your newest valk it would be best to make a new acc

[neat crow]

PE is on my steam account, i just got the new kiana battlesuit on my new one

[ancient needle]

That way you'll be able to catch up with the newer releases more easily

Ah, you wanna play on both? Well, the pulling recommendations are the same as for new accs, just keep in mind your crystal income is crippled

Maybe consider skipping 8.2 entirely if you're broke

[neat crow]

i might do that, but does sparkle benefit from being used with wishing star kiana?

[ancient needle]

Yes

Sparkle is a good support for FWS and vice versa

I'm not saying that you should pull Sparkle if that's why you're asking

[neat crow]

well i mean, i do need teammates for fws

i have AE but idk

[quick birch]

you can use coralie/RC/CN for the meantime, new supports will come and you will build a roster over time

[ancient needle]

Doesn't mean you should get them immediately
I assume you're talking about the new acc rn, 8.2 is a good support for FWS and vice versa

[ancient needle]

They alr have Badum

Oh, I misunderstood

idk about CN tbh, she needs SS to properly function

[quick birch]

in hi3rd you mostly pull for meta at its arrival or even pull for future meta.

[quick birch]

hmm yeah, its more about her fire dmg buff because coralie and RC both make enemies take bonus total dmg, but RC is probably more usefull in the longterm.

[neat crow]

RC refers to? Im using Coralie rn with WS

[quick birch]

Reverist Calico, use the glossary for future abbreviations

[ancient needle]

Just keep in mind in the future that WS is not Badum, she's FWS

WS is World Star, an Astral Ring type

[neat crow]

my bad, things have really changed last time i played

[ancient needle]

Np, no one expects you to know everything from the get go

[quick birch]

yeah especially with p2 team building also changed a lot but we are here to help

if you have any questions just lets us

[neat crow]

will do, thanks!

[quick birch]

since i already mentioned it are you familliar with the astral ring system/p2 team building ? if not i can link you some sources since its very beneficial to understand this as soon as possible

[neat crow]

iirc astral ring has dreamseeker assist you in battle?

[quick birch]

its a bit more than that, dreamseeker is an astral op which are basically p2 elfs

[ancient needle]

Yes
Dreamseeker is good, upgrade her if aren't broke on mats

[neat crow]

is she the best one? i know there are other ones

[quick birch]

who is the best depends on the team but they dont matter until you want to retain nirvana and even there SS dreamseeker is enough for many weathers. its not really something f2ps and RL or below players should consider

Anyway back to the Astral ring topic
We have Astral ring specializations and support tags.

• The leader is the DPS and determines what the Astral ring Specialization of the team is.
• Now your supports want the corresponding Support tag
• RoO is a special AR type which can support all AR types but wont perform as good as Valks with the actual support tag.
  You can have a look at these guides they are with pictures and nice to understand. I do not recommend anything else from this site though.
  https://marisaimpact.com/classroom/ar1
  https://marisaimpact.com/classroom/ar2

if you prefer video explanations this is worth checking out.
https://youtu.be/VqhYRqb71Vg?si=LBGilPlCxawgxLXL

check the faq for all currently know AR types

this might be overwhelming at first but take your time no one expects you to instantly get it

especially as a returning player it can be a bit confusing since you experienced old team building

if you still feel confused after reading one of the guides ask us and we can try to elaborate further

[neat crow]

i think fws uses law of ascension if shes the leader?

[quick birch]

yes correct

[neat crow]

i think i have theresa for astral ring. should i use her or dreamseeker?

[quick birch]

if its LoA theresa although its a questionable choice to pull her as a f2p or non nirvana player. Just keep that in mind for future AOPs

outside of LoA or RoO teri AOP doesnt really buff other ring types so if you would use a different ring type than those 2, dreamseeker should still be better

[neat crow]

alright

[primal pumice]

Hi I was wondering how is seele I’m a returnee and I love seele so much is she still good?

[quick birch]

well there are multiple seele suits, HoRb is the only one that atleast has a niche but none are really relevant or worth investing into. HoRb is also a contender for a possible dkey in the future but thats just speculation

her niche being p1 physical teams

[primal pumice]

Aww that sucks when I last played starchasm was released and was great 😦

[quick birch]

well thats close to 4 years from now and nyx wasnt really that great even on release afaik

[hardy venture]

Is there a guide on how to build a better team comp? I just came back from the game, so I don’t know much about the team comp prios

[quick birch]

read from this message on for an explanation on how p2 team building works, if you just came back you will probably lack p2 units and based on your crystal count it could take a time until you get your first geared p2 S rank

[hardy venture]

Damn, I just spent my astherite ( or however u spell it ) on her 😭😭 to get her to S rank

[quick birch]

you cant get HoRb from asterite though

maybe you are referring to someone else

[quick birch]

based on how long you were gone and how attached you are to your acc you can also consider starting a new one. We can help you with that decision if you send a pic of your valks stigmatas and weapons.

We mainly recommend this due to beginners still having many one time crystal sources and starter manual which gives a nice amount of rewards

[hardy venture]

Where can I send mine? I’m only level 45 ( I think )

[quick birch]

you can just send the screenshots here

[primal pumice]

Wait could I send mine as well I’m not sure if I should restart or not

[quick birch]

sure this is what this help channel is for

[thick bolt]

returnee pin #👶beginner-help message

[dark eagle]

Is there a way to get the stigma resonance? I already converted the part 1 stigmas I cant more till HoRB reruns can I farm stigmatas from foundry that can give me those?

[thick bolt]

crafting g1 kallen pledge and salvaging it

cheapest stig for foundry stig reso farming

[hardy venture]

Should I just create a new acc?

[thick bolt]

it's a restart yeah, unless you still have the starter manual event

[hardy venture]

Nope, I dont have it anym

How exactly do I “restart”

[quick birch]

create a new acc, you dont have to use a different email though. You can create multiple accounts which will all be run through one email by salting
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

[thick bolt]

creating a new acc, can even use the salting method detailed here #👶beginner-help message if you think it'll be easier for you

there's the option of keeping this one since I don't think you were that far into story yet but it won't take longer than a couple days of login to catch up anyways so new acc is better for all the additional mats and crystals from starter event

[hardy venture]

Thank you, will take note of this

[quick birch]

np if you come across any question while playing feel free to ask

[primal pumice]

Based off the previous one I might be a restart too right

[shadow gyro]

yeah you don't exactly have anything valuable or useable for endgame

[primal pumice]

Alright restart it is! Thank youu!

[neat crow]

literally found my old account where i used carole as main dps (she still hits hard)

[ancient needle]

(she doesn't)

At least full sig ig

[neat crow]

yeah lol, still gonna work on the new account

[sweet flax]

is abyss tfm lp hofi?

[ancient needle]

I see different support combos in Myriad rn

It's LP/HoFi/Badum

[sweet flax]

top of bracket in my leaderboard using fws instead of lp

lp hofi badum?

oh you mean alternating

[ancient needle]

All combinations of these 3

[sweet flax]

hmm

[ancient needle]

It's probs HoFi Badum in RL

[sweet flax]

is hofi or badum faster at using their domain reso stacks?

[ancient needle]

HoFi iirc

If you do it properly ofc

[haughty elbow]

is badum or teri dps better

[obsidian quartz]

Which story is this in the mission?

[ancient needle]

#👶beginner-help message

[obsidian quartz]

is this not

[ancient needle]

You cry in P2 without an extra Collapse source, should be Teri

[ancient needle]

It's a link to a specific message, click/tap on it

[obsidian quartz]

Oh oh

[ancient needle]

I assume you're talking about Sparkleless Badum

[lilac reef]

Is it possible to retain RL without sparka or teri?

[ancient needle]

Depends a lot on the bracket

You can get shy of 700 with Lantern

[naive pivot]

how do you do it properly

[lilac reef]

Shouldve said no lantern either

[ancient needle]

It's either A evade AA evade AA or AA evade AA evade A

You wanna be on the ground

[ancient needle]

I've got like 650 with FWS Vita Songque, but I'm sure you can go higher

[lilac reef]

That is the only team I could think of. Ill try that then , ty

[naive pivot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/992286931822059612/1177936729504763974/anime-noted.gif

[ancient needle]

Did you just do 5 basics all this time? 😭

[naive pivot]

yeah

[ancient needle]

Directional evasions btw

[naive pivot]

good to know I guess

[sweet flax]

well at least you know now

[ancient needle]

That's without fish skips, they would improve the score a lot

[lilac reef]

how many of his quantum core thingies can you collapse with a quantum valk?

without*

[sweet flax]

you can collapse all of them, but without quantum valks you rely on enemy gimmicks (if available) or countering (dodging an attack followed by your own attack)

[ancient needle]

Just got 670

[lilac reef]

It seems pretty RNG as to when I can counter

[ancient needle]

Tona needs 5 business days to do the second QUA attack

[lilac reef]

^

[ancient needle]

And ye, it's RNG

[lilac reef]

This is looking like a 2 SO run

[sweet flax]

how exactly are fish skips done

[slim blaze]

Ca jump and swap. Dont forget to pray!

[ancient needle]

Keep holding CA until you swap

[slim blaze]

Is there a visual indicator actually that it worked?

Aside from dmg numbers

[ancient needle]

A massive splash of water

[slim blaze]

Ah shir

[ancient needle]

And the SFX

[slim blaze]

Ah shit. I cant do it then. To increase fps i turn down resolution to 720x480

[ancient needle]

Ainnoway, Awa 2.0

[lilac reef]

You should get ARI too?

[slim blaze]

Ainnoway. Device overheating

[sweet flax]

seems impossible to get enough ari with hofi fws ill probs check a ref later to get a better understanding

[slim blaze]

Oh shit really

So i can cope

With kiana elf surely

[sweet flax]

wait do you think he means lp dps?

[lilac reef]

Do all of these have to collapse before it takes more damage or is it tiered?

[sweet flax]

I feel like I cannot get a faster run than this, maybe 1-2 score more if I sparkle ult earlier on p2 but eh
https://youtu.be/98l3_s8PCP4
looking forward to getting some roasting criticism on where this run can be improved

[sweet flax]

it has to be fully collapsed yes

[outer spruce]

all of them

[lilac reef]

[slim blaze]

.... my brain isnt braining

[sweet flax]

[naive pivot]

what brain, we don't do that in this game

[sweet flax]

actually, would using teri get me enough ari here

[normal bolt]

Anyone?

[sweet flax]

no horb is only replacable with hos realistically since they are both needed to apply impair

[normal bolt]

Rip budget option I guess

[sweet flax]

hos is free and was given for free

either way you wouldnt run that team in any situation nowadays

[normal bolt]

Huh? Really? Where?

[sweet flax]

free in war treasury

just need to farm her

its not a bad choice to get honestly seeing as she's in er and has a stress test as well and is usable for cope early game stuff

[naive pivot]

I mean hos isn't really gonna function without an SP gen weapon anyway

[sweet flax]

well if they are a beginner, they get nebs for free, but I feel like I should've probably asked first now

[naive pivot]

oh didn't know that was a thing now

[sweet flax]

oh no wait ye, they clarified "new account"

[sweet flax]

beginners have been getting nebs for a while, but I think in 7.9 or 8.0 it was added as a reward from training manual instead of box and replaced with koo

which then got replaced with koe this patch

bruh

[naive pivot]

oh

i'm not a beginner so i haven't been keeping up with this stuff

[sweet flax]

fair enough, most of these changes are mention in the cn channel before they come, but I tend to make a new acc every 3/4 patches just to double check rewards

[naive pivot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1001477633378369556/1054571912384225320/3x.gif

[haughty elbow]

outscores u anyways

[naive pivot]

[sweet flax]

their wisdom needs to be preserved

[naive pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/992286931822059612/1342315640651780190/huh.gif

[spiral badge]

https://i.imgur.com/xtCDuFa.png

[naive pivot]

they did in fact not outscore me

[haughty elbow]

they are sniping

[naive pivot]

[haughty elbow]

when did beta applications end i cant find it

[sweet flax]

yesterday

[haughty elbow]

[lilac reef]

Have you been able to improve on that? Im not sure how much more room for score that team has left

[ancient needle]

Fish skips easily can 700+

[lilac reef]

not the fish skips

I missed like 2/4 fish skips in my run and still only got 676

[dry python]

[outer spruce]

if for some reason, anyone is wondering how trio does against the boss

it's ok

[lilac reef]

would ely be better than songque because of this resistance?

[ancient needle]

1. You forgot about Ice -50%
2. Unlikely

[lilac reef]

gacha gamers cant read

[naive pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[cyan dune]

Readings for losers anyway so it makes sense

[lament ruin]

How do I cheese the 2nd parry with sparkle here? I've seen other people do it but when I throw her doll to do the 2nd parry cheese it doesn't work

[outer spruce]

here's what I got with fws vita songque without fish skips

[rotund roost]

How many days to be a returnee event?

[outer spruce]

14 days to be a returnee, 45 days if you want the returnee banner

[rotund roost]

What channel is for the friend's invite code for returnees?

[solar drum]

#invite-links-here

im guessing thats what you meant?

[rotund roost]

yes ty

Will they know if I used their code?

[solar drum]

maybe someone else can better answer that no idea

[outer spruce]

they won't know it's you specifically but they will get crystals if someone uses their code

[primal heron]

i completely read it wrong

[steep scroll]

who's coming next on the banner and is they a must pull?

[quick birch]

It's a new sushang battlesuit called peregrine sword and if you can afford to pull her is really Account dependent

Check #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins for more info about her since her kit hast been revealed for global yet

[gloomy acorn]

Is there a collapse skip I can do instead

[odd pecan]

is there a some meaning to buy characters fragments from asterite shop?

[thick bolt]

!faq teri

[small willow]

Asterite Priority

Hello, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view the Asterite Priority list!
-# Aimed at beginner accounts.

Also see Professor Sairaan's Asterite Sources breakdown [here](#👶beginner-help message).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[thick bolt]

goal is to unlock and rank up some useful units for starter teams and also to accumulate ER valks and dorm xp

[rotund roost]

is it still possible to complete them all if I rush?

[thick bolt]

can complete everything except the 2nd one since that ended

missing more days would put you at risk though

[ripe fiber]

any suggestions on who should i take?

[quick birch]

check pins and if you still feel unsure we can elaborate a bit more

[ripe fiber]

Oh alr, thank you

[low cairn]

i just logged back into the game after months and am unsure about how to proceed any sugestion s

[runic canopy]

What suggestions?

[low cairn]

idk what sould i do

like i got sparkle and her stuff and now am unsure what to do

[runic canopy]

Farm and save crystals?

[low cairn]

ig thats a good idea but my returnee banner is looking at me funny

[runic canopy]

Farm the free pulls from there, but do NOT spend crystals on it. Not worth.

[low cairn]

okie

[runic canopy]

Pull only with the free pulls.

[low cairn]

whats with the day 32 in ur name btw?

[runic canopy]

Waiting for something I shouldn't even know will exist or not.

[low cairn]

o dear lord

[abstract sequoia]

Waifu related?

[runic canopy]

Waifus

[abstract sequoia]

or just your favorite character i guess

[low cairn]

if only she was good ;-;

[low cairn]

ty

[sweet flax]

Just incase this provides any answers

[low cairn]

is hersercher of sentance a part 1 character?

[runic canopy]

yea

[low cairn]

i dont get how where ment to get there stigmatas sorry i didnt understand the text well

[shadow gyro]

do you mind mentioning if you're talking about getting the stigmata set for a certain character or in general?

[low cairn]

hersercher of sentaince

sorry i thought i wrote her name

[shadow gyro]

ah i see
its worth noting that she's extremely niche nowadays so i don't recommend investing into her anywaysfor endgame so she does have 2 type of gear
one is for her support play style
and another for her dps playstyle

her weapon and stigmatas in the support one iwas added to the exchange shop (shop menu) not long go
you would need to get weapon resonance for the weapon and stigmata resonance for the stigmata

her dps gear is currently not available, her weapon the brick reran some patches ago and didn't show up again, at best to get it again you would have to wait for a rerun or for it to be added to a certain shop which regardless of the shop it would surely take long to grind
her stigmatas for the dps gear is also not available and was last seen with the weapon on its supply

[sweet flax]

Small note that if you have nebs/cosmic you can ignore her weapon as her weapon needs to be pri'd and maxed to be beneficial

It's better to wait until her dkey becomes obtainable through other means in the future imo, even while I have her geared for support I haven't used her in a really long time (only once with p1 physical weather rerun this patch)

Since the dkey would provide account buffs as well

[low cairn]

might just bejnch her till the brick reruns

[sweet flax]

That's an option, keep in mind a lot of players tend to invest into an older character they like when their accounts are more developed, I'd suggest taking it slow for your benefit

[shadow gyro]

sure thing, i doubt that her brick build is important for endgame but i would consider trying to get the brick (at least as long as its not a supply bc the supply would have some trick elements into it) for the extra atk

[sweet flax]

Depends on the supply, I doubt scamsal banner is coming back

And her weapon was behind a 60 pull garuntee iirc

[shadow gyro]

it would be nice if the brick got added to the ||8.2 permanent bp shop|| but there's no info on when would that happen

[shadow gyro]

i don't remember the supply anymore, wasn't sirin's weapon in there as well?

[sweet flax]

Sirin weapon was before hos dkey no?

Or am I confusing the banners

[shadow gyro]

lemme look it up rq

[sweet flax]

Sirin was 6.9

[shadow gyro]

no i mean this one
couldn't find a better img
i mean this rerun

[sweet flax]

Brick was 60 pity garuntee ye

[shadow gyro]

i see

[sweet flax]

Sirin wep didn't have pity

Actually nothing on that scam banner had a garuntee outside the weapon

[shadow gyro]

ah so it was treated as an off rate ig

[sweet flax]

I'll have to dbl check when i get home

[shadow gyro]

no worries

[sweet flax]

But that's how I remember older banners (I went on hiatus after sirin weapon in 6.9)

[shadow gyro]

its alr lmao

i only vaguely remember this supply bc i was in a group and the ppl in that group wanted to go for the brick but got other offrates on the way
and i didn't take a ss of the supply info so i didn't know the %

[sweet flax]

@shadow gyro

Nvm I was wrong

It was an equipment banner with 30 pity per piece (120 max pity)

[naive pivot]

she was good

was is the the important word here

[autumn oxide]

she is good

[autumn oxide]

??

just cos she isnt good in top meta shit doesnt mean shes bad?

[slim blaze]

i mean

brick

[desert shadow]

Bad

[naive pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1283242937064488971/1284701215254642809/gifmiah.gif

[glad coral]

does p2 have an sp battlesuit

[shadow gyro]

no at least not yet

coralie and helia are the only p2 a ranks and they don't have the sp thing

[ruby rapids]

Didn't they drop that concept anyway?

[shadow gyro]

not sure tbh

[rugged compass]

7.2?

[rugged compass]

7.0

[shadow gyro]

no, that was during lantern's patch so 7.5

[shadow gyro]

the one that ur thinking about Isn't the one with sirin's weapon

[rugged compass]

....i never got SoE

But i get sirin wep

[sweet flax]

ye, sirin weapon was off rate (albeit slightly higher rated off rate)

[slim blaze]

wow look at these old people remininscing about the past

lets get you to bed

[urban lake]

sirin wasn't THAT old man

[gloomy acorn]

She was over a year ago

[sweet flax]

19 months

[gloomy acorn]

Time to let it go unc

[urban lake]

wow time flys ig.......