👶beginner-help

[quaint acorn]

I guess I'll have to grind for a better weapon or something

[ancient needle]

Forgeable weaps are ass

Gotta lock in for the sig

[ancient needle]

Not just in her case, it's that way in general

[mental python]

If you still have this box, make sure to open it when you are 100% sure you cannot pull for the weapon anymore

So you can pick the stigmata you didn’t get by pulling

[quaint acorn]

I pulled 2 out of the three I think

wait no

I pulled 1

[mental python]

All good you can craft stigmatas too

But would be bad if you picked one and then “accidentally” getting it again

[quaint acorn]

They're different

[shadow gyro]

yeah nvm use the suggestions given to u

[rigid spade]

I'm pulling for weapon rn and i got the M 3 times with no B in sight.

[ancient needle]

No one said that's not possible

[rigid spade]

I know

I'm just sad it happened

[mental python]

Well but you can destroy the 2 extra copies and use them to craft B

Only losing 600 jade in the process

[rigid spade]

Wait i can??

[shadow gyro]

yeah at least the dupes will give you a prism each
if you salvage

[mental python]

Yeah but you need jades from universal mirage which might take you a while to farm

[rigid spade]

I'll see if i get the B, still got a ways to go until weapon pity, and badum made me go to the full 90 sooo who knows how cruel the weapon will be

[shadow gyro]

gl!

[rigid spade]

Thank you haha

[mental python]

Don’t forget that to salvage a stigmata you gotta unlock it 24 hours prior …

[rigid spade]

When i started pulling i was optimistic, thinking i could save some for when sparkle/vita returns but badum said no

[shadow gyro]

but just so you would know its normal to reach hard pity or be near it, you're not unlucky as hell its just that there's no confirmed soft pity and even the ppl that tested its existence suggest that its very weak if it does exist

[rigid spade]

I'll unlock the dupes as soon as i get home then haha

[shadow gyro]

regardless the best assumption is to have enough for hardpity no matter the scenario

[rigid spade]

That's fair considering no 50/50 shenanigans.

[shadow gyro]

yeah

[rigid spade]

Prefer this over the genshin approach

[mental python]

Sorry for rant ,but even than, getting weapon early means you get no stigmatas so it’s just as bad

Best case is character early, weapon late

[rigid spade]

Yuppp but i already got 2/3 so who knows maybe my luck turns around next ten pull and i get both

[shadow gyro]

not really unless youre low on prisms and either fuel
but regardless not getting the wp early isn't a big oof

[thorn ember]

Does "Outside of Stellar Outburst, the deployed character deals 20% more Total DMG" apply to non astral ring character or only artral ring character who do dmg outside the burst?

It's Elysian realm buff

[dry python]

former

[thorn ember]

OK okay thanks

[rotund pasture]

What should I do in abyss? Brute force badum was better than trio/hor but still bad

[abstract sequoia]

what do you do on badum team?

[haughty elbow]

badum harder

[abstract sequoia]

also what rank?

wait... okay that songque is cooked

doubt you can break the shield with that

[rotund pasture]

Badum ca, sonq qte, hohe skill, badum na5 wp skill2 ult

[rotund pasture]

A3

[abstract sequoia]

and how's the shield dmg on songque? have you tried with a leveled base weapon?

if you use CA after song qte, you could break it

but it really depends on how much damage it does

[rotund pasture]

I only have that, should I craft one?

[abstract sequoia]

just max the base weapon for now

and see if that's enough

also, do you have 4/4 gear for badum and ely?

[haughty elbow]

badum doesnt have a 5th basic seq

[abstract sequoia]

[quaint acorn]

Bit of an update since I pulled Kiana earlier but I managed to get her stigmatas as well. Should I still try to pull for her weapon, though I need 45 for hard pity and I don't have much?(And my Starter Manual about to end because I was lazy)

[abstract sequoia]

how far are you into starter manual?

[sweet flax]

so... you went for kiana without being able to garuntee weapon, and are now asking if you should continue going for weapon?
yes, if you get it crisis averted, otherwise it counts towards future pity

[quick birch]

you shouldn't really pull a valk if you cant guarantee the weapon, its a minimum of 30% dmg loss and some utility through weapon passives. at least try to get it

[abstract sequoia]

knowing at what phase you are, you could still rush one or two

or rather what missions needs to be done

[quick birch]

also check out crystal sources in pins to know where to farm some crystals if you need them

[quaint acorn]

I just came back a few days ago didn't really know what I was doing

[abstract sequoia]

not bad

[rotund pasture]

Yup

[abstract sequoia]

and your leaderboard?

just to see if its enough for retain

[quick birch]

you can use stellar outburst btw, kiana gets augmented ascencion through qte which counts as stellar outburst so she does not get that +15% anyway

[rotund pasture]

9th

[abstract sequoia]

ah-

even with spamming outbursts?

or without

[rotund pasture]

I did 1sec after that, just screnshotted before to show u

[rotund pasture]

Yes

[abstract sequoia]

ah okay

hmm, difficult. not having a built songque means qte spam won't lead to more damage

[quick birch]

youll have to see how your bracket turns out tbh, you can always send in a rot ofc but i myself am taking the L on this boss sometimes you just have to.

[rotund pasture]

Cant i try crafting and leveling a weap?

[abstract sequoia]

sure you can

[haughty elbow]

if u asked yesterday i could record a rot
all u can do now is experiment which way regens ur energy the fastest without fumbling dmg

my video from last time might still work

[abstract sequoia]

CA on songque is only good if you can break the shield. if not, stick to your qte only strat

[rotund pasture]

Okay

[rotund pasture]

The recommended one?

[abstract sequoia]

make sure you spend as much time on badum as you can

[abstract sequoia]

there is no other one is there?

[rotund pasture]

Okay

[abstract sequoia]

for staffs its just 4: 1 base, 1 foundry, songque's signature non-pri, songque's signature pri-arm

[quick birch]

dont waste any honkai shards on it though

[abstract sequoia]

only if you're really desperate for retaining i'd say

and if it actually works to break the shield

[haughty elbow]

better to just cook rot rather than use up a ton of mats for something that might not work

or lvl up stigs

u are doing this opener right

actually

u should probably wa badum first before the combo so u can link the mobs

[abstract sequoia]

tbh, is lvl 35 foundry wep that many mats

[rotund pasture]

Wa doesnt trigger sonq qte

[ancient needle]

Awa meant WA + CA

[rotund pasture]

Ohkay

I did without that but with sonq weap, i didnt break the shield but i was 20pt faster

[cyan dune]

So I remember seeing something that said commission rewards automatically redeem before the lot resets. Is that true?

And for commissions the fragments don't matter just go for mats right?

[slim blaze]

Oh shit abyss

[lilac reef]

You mean like it's a shit abyss or you just remembered to do abyss?

[haughty elbow]

why not both

[vivid horizon]

yeah, I liked checking battle storm frags until I got her to SSS since there are always a bunch in the pool and she isn't in daily shop like other B-ranks, but none of the commission valks are relevant to the meta in quite a while
though there are 60-crystal achievements for getting valk ranger (kiana) and valk triumph (himeko) to S rank, that's worth doing
APHO wants some old valks to SS to unlock later skills, but that can be ignored unless you're into the ruins leaderboard

[ancient needle]

Knowing Berw it's defo the latter

[slim blaze]

I forgot to bald last hour. So now im t11 and demotrd back to rl

[lilac reef]

Thanks for making me check, I'm gonna have to bald as well since I'm 7th with 10 hrs left lmao

[dry python]

Handel

[mint bough]

which should i choose? twins of eden, might of an-utu, fenghuang down or abyss flower?

[frozen crypt]

Save that box until the new bp system hits live

[minor ridge]

whats worth buying in the spend event shop i already have seele (Rebirth) form previous events

[shadow gyro]

did you check the pinned guide? (just scroll a bit)

[minor ridge]

yea i had a look but it doesn't seem to have much in the way of prioritising

[shadow gyro]

it does but its not numbered
card > stamps if you use the valk a lot > elf box > leveling mats if urgent

[minor ridge]

ahh ok thanks i wasnt sure how it was ordered

[sweet flax]

happens, but do keep in mind that such scenarios are taken into consideration when creating an faq/pin

[toxic sundial]

Quick question, I have around 19 pulls left until I get recommended weapon in focused supply. If I wait for a future banner (like after the 8 days the focused supply is there) will it still be 19 pulls before recommended weapon or does it reset?

[ancient needle]

If it's a Part 2 weap supply then it carries over

And there are no Part 1 ones rn

[toxic sundial]

Thanks!!

[stark geyser]

im quite new and still use roald set , I have 1 and the second set is missing M should I just craft it? Need it for memorial arena

[haughty elbow]

roald isnt particularly expensive so go ahead

[naive pivot]

so what, are we just fucked without TA or dudu for this abyss

[ancient needle]

I mean, you can still bruteforce with P2

Dudu can 700+ iirc

[naive pivot]

but i just said without dudu

[ancient needle]

I forgot that P1 Dudu and P2 Dudu are the same char

[naive pivot]

[calm kernel]

the answer is yes

[naive pivot]

sure seems like it

[ancient needle]

If you're running HoRb DPS you can try running Paga/MEI M on one of the supps

[naive pivot]

well i have no shittered swords so horbius DPS doesn't exist either

[ancient needle]

P1 Songque with Paga M on SI

Or, yk, just regular Songque with Thele

[naive pivot]

i got like 500

[naive pivot]

except i only have cez MB so then 2 piece bonus is gone meaning SI does nothing

[ancient needle]

Or maybe commit to SnS if you have her gear somehow

[naive pivot]

i in fact do not

[ancient needle]

Yeah, you cry then

[naive pivot]

very cool abyss, just counters my entire account

[ancient needle]

No LV iirc?

[naive pivot]

nope

[ancient needle]

Do you have Paga B? You could try running Glut T Paga MB on HoS

[naive pivot]

nope

[ancient needle]

😭

Glut Paga Newt ig xdd

[naive pivot]

on senti?

[ancient needle]

Ye

[naive pivot]

that sounds horrifyingly bad but we find out i guess

[ancient needle]

Regular GPN is okay on her, Paga instead of PPM could work

Bacon's gonna -100 in RL in 2025

[naive pivot]

abyss has suddenly become like 10x sweatier since like vita patch for some reason so that's already happened before

[ancient needle]

What's T10 rn anyway

[ancient needle]

(you can unheart Helia btw, you ain't ever busting her out )

[naive pivot]

ER

[ancient needle]

Damn, got me there

[naive pivot]

yep that went as expected

[naive pivot]

608

[ancient needle]

How bad we talking

[ancient needle]

Tbh that sounds beatable even without shieldbreak

Which third supp did you use with Songque

[naive pivot]

like less than 500 again because paga M just isn't doing anything and damage where

[naive pivot]

SI because TA gear where

[ancient needle]

I meant with P2 Songque

[naive pivot]

vita thelema

[ancient needle]

Didn't catch lacking, which is unfortunate for ya

[naive pivot]

hoyo every time they make a p1 focused abyss:

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shoo-away-gif-13653609800890535042

[ancient needle]

Maybe record your Songque Vita Thele run?

Can't try myself unfortunately atp

[naive pivot]

too late already closed the game

i'll just take the -100, don't care all that much or at least not enough to suffer through this dogshit

[ancient needle]

Fair enough

[naive pivot]

[whole bloom]

Is it just me or superstring abyss give less crystal than under 81 lvl abyss?

[ancient needle]

What rank have you been before lvl 81 and what rank are you now?

Cuz 81+ Agony 3 has more crystals than 80- RL, for example

Don't forget to factor in the 100 crystals you get just for clearing the stages

[whole bloom]

I don't know what before since I don't paid attention to it,right now it say agony 3

[lime talon]

is level rush worth the $15

[ancient needle]

It's one of the best bundles in the game, and HoHE will be nice for earlygame (you'll bench her afterwards tho)

Whether it's actually worth the $15 is up to you to decide, I can only tell its worth relative to other bundles

[lime talon]

so i claimed my box for weapon for JK, what weapon would i equip with HOHE?

[charred cloud]

[ancient needle]

iirc there's only one forgeable bow, just use that

Keep it at lvl 35

[lime talon]

also wasn't HoHE thrown around as claimable for couple patches ago?

[ancient needle]

Yes, she was given away for free recently

[charred cloud]

yearly free herrscher

[twilit quarry]

what does completing elysian realm stoty chapter give

[low kestrel]

@spiral badge sairaan help me

[ancient needle]

You alr know they don't like that

[spiral badge]

sorry i'm busy today

[spiral badge]

no i said it was fine. What i said what i didn't like is if they call me something else

[ancient needle]

Why did you make me remember that

[spiral badge]

but anyway maybe someone else can help you. Don't ask to ask. Please just state your question directly

oh were you referring to what i said after instead? lol

well anyway i don't really have any issue with people mentioning for specifically me if they want me to look at it at some point.

I just can't guarantee i'll always be there and i rather you state your question immediately and ask here so other people can help if i'm busy or not here

[ancient needle]

I was talking about asking to ask here

[spiral badge]

ah ok i see then haha

yeah that didn't occur to me immediately because it's not that i dislike it, but rather it's just not efficient and i'm requesting to change that behavior for their own interest

anyway see you

[low kestrel]

sorry

@spiral badgesairaan help me in the abyss

872 😭

[ancient needle]

Well, are you able to make a HoRb DPS team

HoRb HoS RS

Ideally SSwords on HoS but there are copium options (like MEI)

[low kestrel]

my hos don't have weapons

and stigmatas, so i guess the best is use part 2 team

[ancient needle]

No Nebulous/Cosmic Duality? No MEI?

Out of pure P2 options RS Badum Songque should be best

That can 700+ afaik

[charred cloud]

isn't this A3?

[ancient needle]

Oh, missed that

[low kestrel]

no 😔

[ancient needle]

Yeah, even higher then

Anyway, you can also run P1 Songque (HoRb RS Songque)

iirc your HoRb is geared

[low kestrel]

yes, 3/4

[ancient needle]

What's missing

[low kestrel]

stigmata

[ancient needle]

Which one

[low kestrel]

sorry for late responses

i'm a little tired

[low kestrel]

the midle one

[ancient needle]

ig you can slap in Paga M there if you have that (assuming you decide to run P1 Songque)

[low kestrel]

what is paga m?

[ancient needle]

Paganini M, a stig

[low kestrel]

oh yes i think i have

yes i have

so the team it's Horb prometheus and songque?

[ancient needle]

RS instead of Prom

Or do you not have her?

[low kestrel]

who is Rs

[ancient needle]

Reign Solaris

[low kestrel]

i don't have her

😔

[ancient needle]

Yeah, Prom it is

[low kestrel]

. . .

[ancient needle]

Well, you've gotta record a run now

Also, with Prom it's Prom leader, forgot to mention

[low kestrel]

okay i will try again

and record

[amber finch]

[ancient needle]

🗣️ 🔥

[calm kernel]

use your stamina

[amber finch]

shuddup

[low kestrel]

@ancient needle

[ancient needle]

Wait, your TA is gearless?

[low kestrel]

y-yes 😳

[ancient needle]

Then you just cry and take the L tbh

[amber finch]

why horb lead tho

[low kestrel]

lmao

[amber finch]

also stop spamming songque when your breach is already expired

just wasting time

[covert basin]

should i just keep this for like. old times sake

[haughty elbow]

killing mobs in agony slower than nirvana is crazy

[amber finch]

https://youtu.be/UYb4EljRtcQ?si=IEqbDHu209pSqyHl someone help

oh wait wrong channel

[cyan dune]

before i do it, the pri-arm of fortuitous red is best for badum kiana right?

[lilac reef]

What server? Retain was 635 only in my bracket lol

[amber finch]

sea and it depends on your bracket

[lilac reef]

Yea I'd be curious to know server wide averages for retain

[spiral badge]

i'm pretty embarrassed this mistake was up for so long https://i.imgur.com/li5cSZ8.png

i removed the crossed out portion now so people don't mistakenly read and misinterpret it, but for transparency i'm screenshotting it lol

i could've sworn i saw some fight where they didn't really wait for enemy spawning but maybe that was more due to a big mob spawning or some other niche reason

[little sequoia]

Thank you for educating me to the glory of a properly weaponized HoFi. I now only need to properly upgrade her weapon to make her wonderful. SS level is great for this run. Still learning combos.

[hot wyvern]

Always expect SEA to retain with like 80-100 points higher than NA and EU most of the time

Because that's just how stupid SEA is

Not to mention the higher disturbance aswell, these people are insane

[dry python]

The gap is not that big

[raw hamlet]

does this icon mean that its farmable or is this just first time clear drop?

[warped estuary]

What even is that...??

[raw hamlet]

Im not too sure either haha

Theres this challenge mode thing on part 1 chapter 16

[warped estuary]

Idk maybe u can try it out to check

[abstract sequoia]

first time clear drop

would be nice if that was always farmable, but no

[raw hamlet]

Alright, thanks 🙏🏻

[abstract sequoia]

np

[ancient needle]

It was cuz of a big mob, yes

Without a target the flowers just go straight

[dawn wadi]

hihi im mostly lore interested only so i pulled kiana without looking otherwise much, but is her newest form any good

I only have built vita thel sena helia cora

[ancient needle]

Yes, she's good (assuming you got her weap as well), you can use Vita Coralie as supps for now

If you decide to pull the 8.2 valk you can do Badum Vita 8.2 and 8.2 Vita Badum

[dawn wadi]

i havent but i plan to grind it out, im still at fu huas story so ill probably be able to get the weap id like to assume

[dawn wadi]

whats badum vita-

oh wait like a team comp with

[ancient needle]

Ye

[dawn wadi]

okay got it mb

[sweet flax]

well if you grind hard enough (you're gonna get burnt out if you arent prepared to commit) you will be fine

generally you should play at your own pace but if I my ask, do you have your beginner manual still?

[dawn wadi]

oh nope ive been playing for around a year now i jsut log on every now and then when i feel like it, i saw a current event and it looked really fun to play, seeing kiana getting a new form is kinda exciting for me so ill definitely get her her weap

[ancient needle]

Other team comps you can do rn are Thele Sena Vita and Sena Badum Vita

[dawn wadi]

whats kianas ideal team if i may ask

[ancient needle]

Hella situational

[sweet flax]

ye

[ancient needle]

But Vita is pretty much always there

[sweet flax]

though generally speaking vita is usually a contender for the 2nd spot

[ancient needle]

If we're talking Abyss ofc

[dawn wadi]

ngl i havnet figured out what exactly vita even does i just follow the exact rotations someone told me here to do stuff

[sweet flax]

the most important thing is she applies breach

[ancient needle]

Well, keep in mind that Vita's rot in LoA is different, you don't do her CA there

[sweet flax]

which only she and sena have, but sena doesnt have the heavenly shift tag for loa (badum team)

[dawn wadi]

breach is like resistance penetration i assume?

[ancient needle]

Yeah

[sweet flax]

ye, would you like me to link you an faq that goes more into detail?

[dawn wadi]

sure, thank you

[abstract sequoia]

huh, physical breach section needs a rewrite

[frozen crypt]

yeah I haven't had time to do it yet

sorri

[sweet flax]

to be fair it says "time of writing"

[abstract sequoia]

its oki

oh yea xd

[sweet flax]

but ye, definitely time for an update just for qol

[abstract sequoia]

but just to add onto it, vita has physical breach too

as the first valk

[frozen crypt]

I also want to do an explanation of how impair and breach stack

[abstract sequoia]

oh yeah would avoid a lot of headaches

[frozen crypt]

Ye a lot of people don't really understand it

[abstract sequoia]

impair reduces defence, breach ignores it is how I understood it

[drifting parrot]

I still don't understand

[sweet flax]

dont enemies have a def value and physical res value? or is the enemy defense taken as phys res value?

[frozen crypt]

I actually don't know lol

[ancient needle]

How are you gonna make the FAQ then 🗿

[abstract sequoia]

..maybe do some practice tests first then

[frozen crypt]

[ancient needle]

That would be annoying to do cuz of supplementary buffs

[abstract sequoia]

maybe with divine prayer and songque lead with vita 2nd. sounds bad as a team, but good for a test team

[frozen crypt]

Yeah

[abstract sequoia]

wait nvm, songque non-lead

but then- okay nvm

[sweet flax]

[frozen crypt]

Then crit

[sweet flax]

crit rng, unecessary buffs, ye its not gonna be a fun test

[lyric anvil]

Was wondering what breach was when I saw it

Good to know now lol

[abstract sequoia]

I understand it as ignoring defense

or rather resistance

[lyric anvil]

Yeah

[sweet flax]

i'd assume since enemies can have a "take x% less physical dmg" there would be a physical resistance value

[abstract sequoia]

so the actual resistance isn't reduced

impair however does just that

[sweet flax]

impair reduces defense specifically

[abstract sequoia]

yeah

[abstract sequoia]

okay that makes it more complicated if resistance and defense aren't one and the same

[sweet flax]

which is why im trying to understand if physical res is applied to defense, as in stacking impairs
but there isnt a situation that has that as I dont think there's impair in p2 (I havent been paying attention to impair in p2)

[abstract sequoia]

doesn't help that enemies don't have any defense stat indicator

[abstract sequoia]

every p2 phys valk has -55% impair on their 3pc stigma

with astral ring activated ofc

[frozen crypt]

The impair faq explains def and phys resist a bit

!faq impair

[small willow]

Understanding Impair

Allow me to explain, Captain!

[Click here](#💁gameplay-help message) for the explanation of Impair!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[sweet flax]

did you get new 3pc stigmatas? wait I read this as every p2 valk not phys ignore me

[lyric anvil]

The only two phys valks we have currently

[sweet flax]

oh thanks that was what I was looking for

[abstract sequoia]

it's essentially a soft nerf, so p2 valks dont use p1 impair supports

[sweet flax]

p1 songque moment

but ye I get what you mean

[abstract sequoia]

that works because the effect is only valid with astral ring active

okay this to note, it has to be their own ring type. 1st image is RS 3pc, 2nd is JDS 3pc

so in LoA, JDS actually does not impair the enemy

which is weird, considering she's stronger in that ring

[lyric anvil]

[frank light]

I'm 7k crystal spending away from HoRB from spending event (pulled for FWS + weapon)
Is it worth for me to spend to get it, have 13.6k crystals left

[abstract sequoia]

No, not without having her gear

and even then she'd be outdated and only relevant in p1 niches

[ancient needle]

25 pulls is too many tbh

If it was like 10 it would be considerable

[abstract sequoia]

the only realistic gain you'd get from horb is ER crystals and waifu goals

and to be fair, her ER isn't that bad without gear

she's playable

[frank light]

Thanks heaps, will hold off
According to the spending event guide, since I don't own the valk, I need to skip the stamps
Would I still go for dreamweaver, or just spend all on Elf boxes?

[abstract sequoia]

all on elf, dreamweaver is dead and only viable on aponia summon weather

depends on your goals though, if you do want nirvana and retain on that specific weather, you could look up what rank those players usually run for her

[shadow acorn]

my valkyries are kiana, vita, sparkle, sleepy teri, elysia+key. all 4/4. I just did a random ten pull on astral op and got theresa?? how good is she ?

[worldly pendant]

...um...is she good?

[austere phoenix]

her feet is good

[worldly pendant]

I-

[quick birch]

She's nice in LoA even without her weapon, her DPS is ass without it. Don't backpull it though. One question how many crystals did you spend on beginner for her cuz normally you want to focus new valks + their weapon instead of backpulling old ones.

[quick birch]

Shes about a 9% DMG increase for Kiana and gives more initial ARI and provides the leader a second stellar shift which is nice, on top of some generic buffs and amplifying HP loss which all current LoA DPS have. Note that stellar shift has no time stop and you still lose points while the animation is playing. Kiana has 1,5 time stop after stellar shift but on some rotations you want to end the boss with your stellar shift or instantly swap to another unit which undoes the time stop.

She's nice for LoA though but does not really provide general buffs for other ring types which is why she sometimes performs worse than SS DS in WoD or WS teams

[worldly pendant]

I legit one pulled her

I didn't think I was gonna get her lol

[quick birch]

The one they force you to do ? Good deal tbh.

[frozen crypt]

Wow

God roll acc

[quick birch]

Beginner luck at its finest

[dry python]

[slim blaze]

classic

[spiral badge]

i mean i didn't even recall what the fight exactly was. It doesn't only have to be a big mob lol. I think I'm already aware of the mechanics if I'm contemplating that reason lol

I did recall flying fish when trying to think about it more but that's not quite the same either. Extended prephase and all. I'm not really sure if that was really the example I was initially trying to recall either

[spiral badge]

maybe i was thinking of some SSS HoRb video actually. That would be especially embarassing to get mixed up on

[cyan dune]

Is next patch's elf box in the pins? I didn't see it

[spiral badge]

it's mentioned in my spending event guide

but if you want the actual details then it's in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins since it's future information

[cyan dune]

Ok thank you!

[undone helm]

hey, should i pick FR from here?

[ancient needle]

Nope, that's a terrible pick
Check the second pin here

[undone helm]

ok, will look

[glass tinsel]

How much familiar requests does samsara have

[ancient needle]

idr whether it's 1 per level or 1 per 2 levels, but I can tell that there are 30 levels in total

It takes like half a year (if not more) to max

[sweet flax]

no reason to max it though

you can get away with taking it to a fairly high level instead of max

[glass tinsel]

I'm at 27 now should I just stop and do the other ones

[ancient needle]

Yeah, 16-18 is a good stopping point iirc, after that it's better to rely on the RNG crystals from APHO2 or Schicksal

[sweet flax]

27 just go finish schicksal and apho atp

[lime talon]

how many fragment to unlock a charchter? is it different between s rank and a rank

[sweet flax]

differs between charas

[glass tinsel]

I finished schicksal I havent touched apho

[lime talon]

what are awakened valks

also do errands with higher valks have more chance to drop frags

[frozen crypt]

You mean autocompleted expeditions? No, but using up all attempts of one stage guarantees 1 frag

[lime talon]

oh so level 1 valks don't matter? its actually just chance and not better valks = more chance?

[frozen crypt]

I've never heard of valk level affecting it

[lime talon]

ok good to know i though it tries to complete the stage using valk and thier level

[undone helm]

so about that.. i looked at the pin about it but the thing is how do i know if my account is more established ?

[shadow gyro]

what captain level are you? and in what abyss tier are you in?
also if you're desperate for crystals rn
although if you already have silverwing you can ignore the box for now

[thick bolt]

what it means is either you use it to pick whichever ER valk you're missing if you have all but one

or just ignore the valks and consider the affix devices when you have need for them in the endgame

[undone helm]

im level 43

[shadow gyro]

yeah ignore it for now, all of the characters but silverwing is in the war treasury that you'll farm at some point
and the affix device is more or less a suggestion for level 80+ captains that play in at least red lotus

non of the characters in that box is required for endgame

you may even randomly see characters that are in that box in the dorm supply since they're all there (but don't use crystals on that supply)

[undone helm]

is the box gonna stay there forever?

[shadow gyro]

yes

[undone helm]

oh ok

thx alot

[rotund pasture]

what teams can I do for what MA boss?

red 4/4, blue= cope/useable

[quick birch]

@gray gulch i just checked again with the ||HoHE bp thing|| and she is actually free. Im sry to correct a "mistake" again which was actually right if that caused any confusion.

it will take you nearly a year though

[cedar turtle]

Does anyone know if there is any way of getting Outfit Coupons at the moment? I’ve been trying to find any method at all, but I still have no idea where you’re supposed to get them.

[shadow gyro]

try badum, que, hohe in kevin (training mode) and see how it works
u can also try it with training mode on husk
the one that gives you the most trouble will take the herrscher trio, the other with use badum team
for hellmaru it isn't a big deal unless you care about 0 sec kills
although badum would take hohe, if you manage with sena badum team on one of the 2 enemies then you can use hohe on hellmaru and see if there's any 0 sec refs for hohe
otherwise for hellmaru use anything but fire

[shadow gyro]

could even use HoR on hellmaru but im not sure if there's any strats for a quick kill
if you don't care about a quick kill she should do fine

[bleak cloak]

Hello, hope everyone is well, I have a question what teams should I priotizing and what should I do with this weopon box, I’m thinking of saving for human ego Divine key, but at the same time part 1 Jade team and I can also get a free sugary starburst

[quick birch]

Sugary burst and Jade knight are both free anyway but old HoHE team won't really do much outside of early game. Nocturnal is the best choice out of all 3 tbh. Also it's questionable if HoHe Dkey will be worth it once it returns we will have to see how good she is in the ??? AR type

For your teams you can do something like FWS+Coralie+CN/RC/TA. Thelema and fws cant support each other but they both can support an WS DPS

Do you know how p2 team building works?

[bleak cloak]

Yes astral key similarity’s means you get buffs if everyone has the same type?

[hollow breach]

hi, does anyone know where exactly i can do this quest?

[bleak cloak]

Also where is the codex cause I forgot fws, and cn

[quick birch]

Not completely

We have Astral ring specializations and support tags.

• The leader is the DPS and determines what the Astral ring Specialization of the team is.
• Now your supports want the corresponding Support tag
• RoO is a special AR type which can support all AR types but wont perform as good as Valks with the actual support tag.
  You can have a look at these guides they are with pictures. I do not recommend anything else from this site though.
  https://marisaimpact.com/classroom/ar1
  https://marisaimpact.com/classroom/ar2

if you prefer video explanations this is worth checking out.
https://youtu.be/VqhYRqb71Vg?si=LBGilPlCxawgxLXL

I can't remove that shit on phone

[bleak cloak]

Oh my quab the info dump is about to go crazy

[quick birch]

Glossary is in the pins

[bleak cloak]

Thank you for the info also sorry if I sound ungrateful

[quick birch]

No np I understand it lmao

[bleak cloak]

How do I access said pins

I don’t see it in the channels

[quick birch]

depends if you are on PC its a pin needle in the top right corner. On phone you should see the channel name on the top, click on that and pins should be somewhere there

[quick birch]

#👶beginner-help message

[bleak cloak]

Oh I see

[hollow breach]

thanks

[hollow breach]

which one do i have to play?

[quick birch]

none of these shard chapters, you just have to follow the main quest in the overworld. The quest menu is under the mini map on the left side

[hollow breach]

so i didnt had to go there?

im confused now

[quick birch]

you still have to do the mission in Tides of Time Gone By but the ones you showed me are not the mission you are searching for

The story mission you want to complete can be completed in the overworld

[hollow breach]

okay, i understand this part now. where do i find the overworld?

[quick birch]

you should instantly be there once you enter tides of time gone by

[hollow breach]

so i go here and what do i have to do now?

[quick birch]

open the quest menu by pressing H and make sure you are following the main story. After that just play the quests

[hollow breach]

i need to do this?

[hollow breach]

this is what i see when i press "target"

[quick birch]

you should see yellow dots on the floor try following that

[hollow breach]

okay, ill do that

[maiden garden]

i still need 3.8k left (until 16.8k), how this so far?

[ancient needle]

Well, you should get Coralie's sig weap from Part 2 story, but otherwise there's not much to say yet

[maiden garden]

rip heres hoping the pulls are worth it

is there a specific banner im supposed to pull on when its time?

[runic canopy]

See if you want the new v8.2 valkyrie in about 4 weeks. If not, skip for new v8.3 valkyrie.
To maximize investment, pull only new valks, not backpull (= pulling older valks)

[maiden garden]

rip i have to wait that long

just hope im not trigger happy and end up pulling to early

are there any good back pulls? in case i just cant wait?

[runic canopy]

I'm not answering. Others may.

[maiden garden]

ultimatly just gotta wait it out

thankfully there is hsr that im also grinding

[bleak cloak]

Hey I can’t find in the glossary ws?

What does it mean?

[runic canopy]

World Star.

[bleak cloak]

I see thank you

[ancient needle]

No good backpulls unfortunately

[ancient needle]

It's between Badum and the 8.2 valk, and it's hard to tell for sure which one will be more useful in the future

[bleak cloak]

Even vita?

[ancient needle]

She can't properly support the unknown AR type

[ancient needle]

I'd go with Badum

[runic canopy]

Yeah, not even Vita now, her value falls the longer she is faring since debut.

[ancient needle]

At the very least do the discounted 10x on her banner

[bleak cloak]

Rip

My goat I never had

[quick birch]

she'll probably be in the next carnival, try your luck with free pulls there. No idea on which patch that actually falls though.

[bleak cloak]

Oh bet

[ancient needle]

(though depending on your funds you could skip 8.2 entirely depending on 8.3 info)

[quick birch]

how much will we know about 8.3 once 8.2 drops

[maiden garden]

tbf im mostly grinding the story same with hsr and genshien (zzz is done) so idk how diffcult the late game chapters are

but i can ultimatly wait for 8.2

[ancient needle]

They aren't "difficult", they're just hella long

[quick birch]

story has trial valks so your own dont matter, and we basically have EZ mode for bosses

[runic canopy]

We can only guess once ||Ch 8 drops then get closure by official v8.3 revelation||.

[ancient needle]

You are locked to trial valks after all

[maiden garden]

is it worth skipping the story bits ? is there a youtuber that covers them? and just doing the missions (like whenever you see skip

[ancient needle]

What's with the periods suddenly 😭

[ancient needle]

I don't think there are good summaries

[maiden garden]

oooh rip

[ancient needle]

• you might accidentally skip some CGs which you might not be able to obtain in the future

[maiden garden]

someone needs to step up to the plat with this game

[runic canopy]

Ya, ItsOgiru is good for full story walkthrough and there are more.
For summary, none unfortunately.

[ancient needle]

Cuz not all chapters are replayable

[runic canopy]

HAHAHAH

[ancient needle]

Or any summaries for that matter

[maiden garden]

wheres my byf when you need him (d2 lore youtuber)

but yea ultimatly grind story- get 3.8k more crystals - wait until 8.2 banner in 4 weeks - cross fingers hope to get somthing good - build team

[quick birch]

i mean you still have to get more than 3,8k crystals those are just for the weapon gotta afford the valk somehow. but as a beginner you should have enough once 8.2 drops, still try your luck on badumm though while keeping your crystal count above your weapon pity

[ancient needle]

I'd try my luck on Badum, for now she looks very solid

Having an SD valk is very nice in general

[maiden garden]

ty for advice all see what i can do , see you guys in 4 weeks

[ancient needle]

||While BIO is a very eh type||

[ancient needle]

Historically speaking ofc

[maiden garden]

this is a 8 year old game right?

[quick birch]

yup

[maiden garden]

how old is hsr?

[quick birch]

not even 2 years

[maiden garden]

welp got my work to do

[quick birch]

a bit older if we go by cn release date iirc

[lyric anvil]

HSR is like- still new to me along with ZZZ

[ancient needle]

7 by GLB release, 9 by CN release

8 by SEA release

[maiden garden]

only thing i can flex is being a y1 genshien player (which i still have a ton of grinding in that game to do as i fell off 4 years after ice moutain update)

[lyric anvil]

||From what I can see though is that we don't have a P2 Valk of that type yet||

[ancient needle]

||That's true, how viable the type is will depend on how many PSY bosses there will be in the future||

[maiden garden]

||why is that in spoils||

[lyric anvil]

||If not PSY, at least bleed hopefully.||

[quick birch]

cuz 8.2 info isnt revealed to global yet

[maiden garden]

current progress

think i showed up to late for the 2nd one

tho i assume theres going to somthing big in the summer?

[lyric anvil]

||And also of how PSY is Hoyo's favorite type||

[runic canopy]

||MECH lately, ahem, Thel and Vita||

[lyric anvil]

[neat crow]

does anyone know how long chapter 1 of part 2 is?

[runic canopy]

Source: Carv

[lyric anvil]

6 hours- yeesh

[neat crow]

[primal heron]

cant belive i sit through all that

https://tenor.com/view/hibike-anime-anime-yapping-yap-shut-up-gif-14097572782261890092

[neat crow]

i dont even know if i want to read everything now lmao

[quick birch]

||PSY SD and MECH are all even at the moment if we count dkeys, if not PSY is actually 3rd ||

[spiral badge]

wonder if we should make a faq for this lol

[runic canopy]

...

Shouldn't have given.

[primal heron]

[lyric anvil]

||Yeah, think the only PSY are Coralie and Lantern? If not counting HoHe.||

[quick birch]

yes

[lyric anvil]

Alright

[runic canopy]

||tbf we had too many OP PSYs in the past... ||

[maiden garden]

can you rewatch cgi scenes after you complete a story that has one(if you can i might try to make a video that holds every cgi scene (wont be a catch all solution but if people are just going for cgis it might be better)

[quick birch]

|| p1=psy p2=mech p3=bio ||

[maiden garden]

because im not a lore youtuber and wouldnt even know where to start writing a sccript to even have info like that but i can edit

[lyric anvil]

||Mech and SD||

[ancient needle]

Well, you already can watch all CGs in-game

Non-event ones I mean

[jolly pulsar]

Maybe, for faq time? Or something

[ancient needle]

You can access them from the collection menu, for example

[spiral badge]

keep in mind story mostly is permanent so you can go through it at your own pace

however when new story chapters are added they are treated as events and have limited time rewards.

• you still have the ability to jump straight to them but ofc this will spoil you
• Some people may opt to give up on these to enjoy the story at their own pace. The actual total of limited time rewards may not be very much (100 limited time crystals for 8.0's side story addition?)

you may also opt to skip through story to rush rewards and catch up on them later with another person's playthrough on youtube. Beware:

• you won't be able to replay certain portions of the story
• for story you can replay (mainly in part 1), if you skip a segment that contained a CG cutscene, it won't get added to your collection. You must start a CG playing for it to be added, but once it started you can skip and even quit to refund your stamina

[maiden garden]

guess it wouldnt hurt to skip story then , tho if i wanted to make a hr or 2 long video on the games story im going to have to do some research on both how to write a script and how to retell the story

idk kinda daunting , 1 hand it would be useful as the community dosent seem to have one on another lots of work

[spiral badge]

not sure what faq time means

but questions about story lengths is semi regular for all sorts of purposes (rushing rewards, planning and pacing, etc)

[neat crow]

only reason i asked is because im just trying to get more crystals to get wishing star before shes gone

[spiral badge]

there's plenty of content creators that specialize in summarizing or explaining hi3 lore out there if this is what you're talking about

homulabs is one example that's esp known

but anyway this isn't help related to ingame mechanics and such anymore

[maiden garden]

fair ty for info

[spiral badge]

hm in that case check out the crystal pin too

we do cover how much crystals to get from each chapter there

[slim blaze]

I see

[neat crow]

yeah, ive seen it, doing the starter manual quests too for that 800 crystals per chapter

completely forgot about open world too

[slim blaze]

Its ok. Just study kanchoverse and it will take your time!

[jolly pulsar]

I mean
That would be put on a faq called time

Idk what a good name is

You’re the prof not me

[spiral badge]

oh i don't think the specific name is important as long as it's easy to recall lol. There will prob be redundancy anyway

[humble shadow]

how to get more score? did like 5 times and can't get 46080

[jolly pulsar]

Well now I know who to ask if I start on that endeavor
Though MadDoctor here also has all the story chapters done and recorded on his YouTube channel if you want to rewatch them
Only thing I suggest not skipping is the CG as if you do skip it doesn’t mark it as unlocked in your collection

[ancient needle]

Well, it's best if you record a run

Does Coralie have Tsio btw

[humble shadow]

nops, I can craft all if needed but makes that much of a difference?

[autumn oxide]

yes

dont craft it tho

[humble shadow]

ok let me record a run here

[spiral badge]

put on ogier T instead of fhm t

T and 3pc doesn't do anything for the team. B doesn't either but there aren't any notable B standalone pieces to get on a budget to use instead

the main team effects that are going on with this set are from FHM M (boost team fire dmg), 2pc (boost team total damage for a short while), and Ogier T (boost team elemental damage)

none of these boosts are much but it's something at least

[ancient needle]

Unless you're swimming in Prisms it's not worth crafting

By "swimming" I mean having more than enough for the next patch (you need 21)

[spiral badge]

rotation wise try

• fws leader
• set up coralie's effects at the start (2x weapon active. Then jump > basic attack > weapon).
  • Every weapon use gives a team buff, up to 3 stacks. You can visualize this above your hp bar.
  • The final weapon debuffs the boss.
  • both of the above effects lasts for 25s
• set up JDS effects. Coralie jumping the boss' initial move will prob trigger JDS QTE. JDS' 3pc relies on her QTE or Hold attack to buff the team. The hold atk will also refresh FWS' swap cd and QTE.
• afterwards you're mostly looking to alternate between FWS and JDS for damage until coralie's 25s effects run out.
  • While fhm 2pc has a 10s effect, the specific buff is too little to make swapping coralie more frequently to be worth it

you'll have to re setup effects after transition, or maybe you can rely on outburst for that.

anyway that's basically what i'll be looking for from your fight.

[humble shadow]

https://youtu.be/2vva1dExPac

[sweet flax]

you dont need to spam fws hold atk, unless you have a need to refresh jds qte

make sure to use her weapon skill as well before swapping for the mark bonus dmg

[spiral badge]

i'm more open to crafting coralie's 3pc but mainly for abyss ranking purposes if it's significant (demote > retain > promote).

i also wouldn't upgrade her set.

Even though this may be a notable upgrade, as you get more and more gacha valks, coralie will get replaced eventually, and it's possible for prisms to run dry. So it may be best to hold out until then.

If you plan to pick up 8.2 valk with her weapon, definitely skip crafting coralie's stigs.

[ancient needle]

I think Coralie will still be useful for a while for MA, I'd go for the set

But ye, it's not worth upgrading

[spiral badge]

MA isn't important reward wise but you can at least make an argument for the QoL or if it can net some 20 crystals from SSS bosses. I'm not opposed in that case.

[humble shadow]

oh that I didn't know

[sweet flax]

generally you'd do it passively, since your usual combo on her is 4 basic > weapon skill > enhanced weapon skill > swap

[spiral badge]

i'm assuming you did this fight before seeing my earlier post? Maybe revisit it with that in mind. Your first rotation already didn't do the weapon debuff on the boss with coralie.

[sweet flax]

and refer to how sairaan suggested your opener with coralie be as well

[spiral badge]

i want to say you can expect to swap in cora every two cycles of fws and jds

so coralie > [jds > fws] > [jds > fws] > coralie > etc

[humble shadow]

yep gonna try new rotation now

[spiral badge]

but i don't remember

you can basically eyeball coralie's stacks above your hp

if you can't refresh the 3 stacks in time then cut out the previous character's portion

[sweet flax]

its barely enough time

for coralie buffs

but her qte retriggers and you can get all 3 stacks + debuff back so its fine in the end

[humble shadow]

finger issue I can do better

[sweet flax]

with proper management, its enough time for coralie buffs though

[humble shadow]

oh I forgot to lvl up the skills

[sonic dirge]

hey so i started making effort on this trashy event i'm stuck i'm always lossing by 1 or more later rounds

what the best team ?

[humble shadow]

gonna make few try runs to get the time and prob I can get

[sweet flax]

any team that doesnt have more than 5 non-solo fate bonds

just go flame chasers

[sonic dirge]

ok so flame chasers only ok thanks will try that

[spiral badge]

oh this is with cora qte off

i could've sworn double fws jds was fine but idr

[sweet flax]

even with qte off, still doable

just means you gotta skip jds hold atk in the first part which is where the dmg diff from the 2 earlier pics came from

actually, if you are fast enough, you can get the jds hold atk off

there's like a 1 second window

[spiral badge]

hm yeah nvm i guess either go for 3 swaps before coralie or do the fourth one if you're about to outburst

maybe coralie qte is worth turning on for this lol

[sweet flax]

I can record a partial run if you want me to try anything

just as a ref for the other guy

[spiral badge]

i'll leave it to tolima if they want to see it

[sweet flax]

I guess after coralie buff re-apply they'd have to SO

and farm ari through phase switch and p2

[spiral badge]

beware their jds stigs aren't maxed btw

[sweet flax]

hmm

[humble shadow]

I'm almost there just need few more trys

[spiral badge]

have you tried buffed mode yet btw?

i want to say that should still be able to achieve crystal rewards but it does cut your score/lowers its cap greatly?

[sweet flax]

assuming I should also take off tsiol from my cora?

[spiral badge]

ogier t fhm mb yes

idk about their fws stigs

[spiral badge]

jds doesn't have her weapon either

[sweet flax]

[spiral badge]

maybe cut out cora's gears completely or something to account for dkeys and dorms too

[humble shadow]

nops, the crystal I got just wanted the last reward

[charred cloud]

I don't envy the fact u write these out on a day by day basis

[sonic dirge]

so much better @sweet flax thanks alot

[sweet flax]

fhm m buffs worth upgrading the stig to 50 for?

[spiral badge]

oh i see. keep in mind aw and al aren't that important nowadays so don't force yourself it this becomes not fun

[lyric anvil]

[spiral badge]

i guess so? I don't think it starts at 10%?

[sweet flax]

ye its 10% at 50

[spiral badge]

also if you really cannot match them well enough i think it's fine to just show an example run for the sequence/flow rather than something to accurately copy exactly

tbh bygone hits pretty hard so i don't know if i can even expect fws to stay alive for too long

[sweet flax]

I wanna get an idea of the damage

but I am fine just showing them what to do

[spiral badge]

and fws can evade mid basic mash but it's also unreasonable to expect for everyone

[sweet flax]

what are they using on jds

stigs wise

[spiral badge]

full set but non upgraded

[sweet flax]

ah

actually, getting rid of tsiol, the damage diff isnt too big

[sweet flax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp3LmpEptt0&ab_channel=Asumaraii

most likely will have to keep attacking with kiana at the end to make up for lack of stats (coralie on ogier t fhm mb)

[haughty elbow]

not taking off songques weapon?

[sweet flax]

I dont have even a blue weapon

[haughty elbow]

make one smh

[humble shadow]

[sweet flax]

[haughty elbow]

but what about the blue weapon

[lyric anvil]

No blue

[haughty elbow]

its like 10 stamina to get it

[sweet flax]

from where though

[haughty elbow]

expedition

like all blue weapons and stigs

[sweet flax]

[humble shadow]

hell yeah

[sweet flax]

is this buffed mode?

[humble shadow]

nops

[sweet flax]

wait that's lowkey not bad

considering no gear or proper teams

[spiral badge]

hey well done

[humble shadow]

changed the rotation to JDS first was a world of difference

[spiral badge]

yeah generally in hi3 you want to set up all support effects before the main dps comes in

fws does have team effects on her own 3pc too but they're already activated at the start if she's leader

i recommend giving the stig 3pc descriptions a read to at least see their conditions if you haven't already

but congrats on achieving your goal

[sweet flax]

ye, I think the only thing just going off timer at least, that can be improved is your ar charging after p1

either way, no reason to redo this boss run for a better score

[humble shadow]

more like I don't have others Stigma to change

[spiral badge]

it's just something general for future reference really

but at the very least you can start with fws and jds, although we already covered them

[humble shadow]

I died like 4 times and had to restart just pain never again

[sweet flax]

welcome to gearless and low dorm level

dodge or die

[spiral badge]

yeah i only really say to pursue these extra rewards when reasonable

even 20 crystals may not be worth it but that's a bit more worth considering esp with buffed mode

[sweet flax]

well its a good thing 20 crystals is basically garunteed in non-buffed runs

[spiral badge]

yup

[humble shadow]

just pushed cuz I want Sirin next one I prob just gonna relax

[sweet flax]

and just to be sure, you are aware sirin is in no way recommendable, and this is purely personal preference/er crystals?

[humble shadow]

just personal

[sweet flax]

[ionic aurora]

I just recently got badum kiana and hohe, is there any resources I can look at to see how to use them/build a team with them?

[cedar turtle]

Just started in the last month (Free-to-play), is getting Sprout Crystallum (Currently have 3) worth it at this point or should I just save up for next version instead?

[ancient needle]

Cayjunn on Hoyolab has good introduction guides for them

I assume you're talking about HoHE with the new weap?

[ancient needle]

From the Dorm Shop? Absolutely, there's no point in saving that currency

Or did ya mean paying up for BP

[cedar turtle]

No, just staying FTP. Seems like there's no time to get enough crystallum to get any characters before the version resets.

[ionic aurora]

Yep!

Ill check out the hoyolab page

[ancient needle]

You can't get enough even if you play through the entire season (4 patches), cuz you only get 5 per patch

You have to pay up if you wanna get the chars (not that they're worth getting for new players)

[cedar turtle]

lol... well good to know then, I won't bother getting those.

[ancient needle]

idr whether they cover teambuilding, but here's a good general guide on Astral Ring, it'll help you understand how Part 2 teambuilding works: https://youtu.be/VqhYRqb71Vg?si=FPTRulxmVx2AJdGh

[runic canopy]

No general best supports on most of Astral Ring cases if you ask, that's still depends on bosses.
But most of the time, no one uses Eepy Teri to support HoHE

[lyric anvil]

Feel like that first photo is a bit spoilers

[runic canopy]

How to... spoiler sent pictures

I forgor i alr edited it

[spiral badge]

i dont' think you can on pc unless it's a link

on mobile there might be an option? idr

[lyric anvil]

There is on mobile

[spiral badge]

hm i can't even find the mobile method anymore lol

[ionic aurora]

I dont really get the photo atm but ill watch the earlier guide sent

[spiral badge]

that's an mp4 and might be different? Idk.

[runic canopy]

The pic has to be resent

[lyric anvil]

[lyric anvil]

It's the same

[spiral badge]

i just tried with a photo and i didn't get any options for it

[runic canopy]

Yeah, the guide comes with how to read those cards as well. Hope you can make it

[spiral badge]

well you can delete and append spoiler tagged links

but i'm going to have to be impartial and ask of you to modify things

[runic canopy]

Deleted, the guy doesnt understand the cards as well

[lyric anvil]

You tap the file when it's that bar, it's the same with image

[spiral badge]

we're talking about editing an already posted image

[lyric anvil]

Idk how to do that-

Can't

[spiral badge]

yeah even with an already posted video i can't do it.

[lyric anvil]

It's only the text

[spiral badge]

i really thought there was a way. hm

well nevermind

[lyric anvil]

Pretty much have to resend it if it has spoilers

[runic canopy]

No worries

[lyric anvil]

[odd plume]

LT6TETWSMF2P

[rotund pasture]

Okay ty will do

[ancient needle]

Why do these codes even exist

[spiral badge]

so i suffer

[primal heron]

insane 300 and a stamina

thank you mihoyo

[raw wraith]

how i can lv up to lv 7 ? i can't pass thru here

[ancient needle]

Well, do you understand how these bushes work?

[raw wraith]

yeah bro but i couldn't avoid that

[ancient needle]

Yes, you can't avoid stepping on them thrice, but there is a way not to be sent to the very beginning

1 sec

[humble shadow]

just go right instead of up in the second seed

[raw wraith]

damn ty

[solar drum]

is this safe to tap without spoiling myself

[faint crypt]

yes, youre just choosing tasks

[solar drum]

and if i choose a task does it shove me into story stuff

or even spoiler dialogue

[faint crypt]

no, open world tasks can range from things like killing enemies or finding things

[primal heron]

just use the ticket

[runic canopy]

There are 3 other open worlds too

[primal heron]

bruh i forgor about the sakura and plaine

[coral dew]

does SP recovery here refer to "restore 2 sp per second"? this for Senti btw

[whole bloom]

How does superstring abyss work?

Do it lock any of char?

[frozen crypt]

No

[odd plume]

similar to manifold but your score matter

[frozen crypt]

Its 4 stages, left top bottom right

You need to clear left to clear top, and top to be able to attempt the boss stage (right)
Bottom stage is referred to as side stage as it has different effects to the main ones.
Left, top and bottom should be fully cleared and grant 6k points each
Right stage you can't get 6k on, you kill the boss as fast as possible to get more points. Player scores are compared to see who gains or loses trophies (or stays the same)

!faq superstring

[small willow]

Superstring Dimension

Hey, Captain!

[Click Here](#👶beginner-help message) for the summary of Exalted Abyss and why we push Captains to "retain Redlotus".

[charred cloud]

Boss is 3k with up to 1000 bonus pts added on

[odd plume]

the amount of trophy you have decide whether you demote or not

so you can do bad in 1 cycle and still retain redlotus if you have enough trophy left

[lyric anvil]

1000 being impossible to get.

[charred cloud]

Theres probably a single boss out there that spawns at 1000 and can be killed in 1 shot at lower temps

Even while climbing back up through agony I could get like 980 on some bosses since its squishy

[odd plume]

someone did a -1pts run in manifold and got a warning

they said unusual score pls try again

[charred cloud]

Little annoyed the game doesn't accept true 0s scores in MA

32000s just nullify the attempt even tho its legit

[frozen crypt]

Ikr

[charred cloud]

Hellmaru and Hephaestus are the only 2 I know that have 32k scores rn. Theres prob more but will we ever see them

[frozen crypt]

Probably because in the past it wasn't possible and they were trying to filter out the hackers but now its actually legit they either don't know or don't care

[charred cloud]

willing to go with the don't care part

[frozen crypt]

[charred cloud]

Heph was really easy to get the 32k on so it must've floated around the CN community

[inner bronze]

best team this abyss?

[ancient needle]

Should be RS Badum HoHE

HoHE is for the weakspot

[charred cloud]

yknow it would be nice if we got more units who had access to aimed shots

[autumn oxide]

yk hh prev gear cldnt even hit weakspots?

[charred cloud]

U could hit it but theres no bonus for it

CFlare/Whispers are the only 2 bows with that gimmick which I don't get

So many mechanics they added just to like never use it more than once

[potent crow]

Henlo and gud morn or nite. When in badum dps team, when switched to Hohe, what exactly I need to press? (outside SO)

[frozen crypt]

I'm glad those stupid niches disappeared

[charred cloud]

wdym all of them are coming back

[frozen crypt]

even hp coagulation? D:

[charred cloud]

Honestly that gimmick was so under utilized

we got 1 HP coag unit and thats it

Wouldn't even be bad for a p2 team nowadays tbh with the flexibility teams can have

[frozen crypt]

just qte wep afaik

[potent crow]

just press wep and switch?

[autumn oxide]

vita deals hp loss too

[frozen crypt]

ye

[potent crow]

alright thanks

[charred cloud]

So does Morb/Nyx/HH water

[frozen crypt]

even sirin does

[autumn oxide]

wasnt morbs tied to the mobbing thing

[charred cloud]

True

Forgot Sirins is on her CA after rank up

[frozen crypt]

ye lol

its pretty fucking useless but

its there

[charred cloud]

HP coag is just underused in general. Could work alot better in a p2 format more so than what Kira is

[frozen crypt]

nonono keep it away

'u cant do any dmg unless u pull this valk specifically'

no

[charred cloud]

Literally

Every valk :)

[frozen crypt]

well yes but no

hp coag a lot more brutal with it

[ancient needle]

Depends on the boss really

Like MA Wardens are fine, for example

[opal ingot]

Adding new enemies every patch with unique mechanics that only the newest chars have direct answers for was definitely the best part of p1

[ancient needle]

But Abyss Wardens are ass

[frozen crypt]

truly the prime of the game

fuhua meta? nah
cancerous creating problems to sell a solution? peak

[opal ingot]

It was universally liked (don't check chat history)

[charred cloud]

It was annoying when the solution valk was god awful

[frozen crypt]

so true

[ancient needle]

8.2

[frozen crypt]

we're gonna go through that phase again arent we

sigh

[charred cloud]

IMG was pretty rough when we were only stuck with Raven

[frozen crypt]

redlotus is my friend

[charred cloud]

Insta Kill at 20% HP through aimed shot only

[frozen crypt]

yeah lol

[charred cloud]

1 ult per fight + cringe IMG gimmick

10/10 valk deserved the bench when first available

[frozen crypt]

I mean it was okay since the img bosses we had back then were fairly squishy

but raven was terrible

having to farm sp for a long time on both supports was criiiiinge

[charred cloud]

Wasn't like most HoD scores like low 700s maybe peak 800

Then PE comes out and gets 910

[frozen crypt]

ye lol

no PE demot to sinful

[charred cloud]

Otto was also pretty bad to fight until like right now with RS kek

[dapper axle]

Is there a chance there will be another way to get Seele HoRB & the Dreamweaver in the future x_x?
I mean the Dreamweaver is even harder to obtain since she is from the BP…

[frozen crypt]

yes but I wouldn't expect it to be soon

they're both in that awkward state where they are too old to get normal banners and are just about to leave bp/spending event so hoyo won't make them easily obtainable for maybe a year or more its hard to put a timeframe on it

[calm kernel]

next time we see them will probably be in dorm banner

outside of some whel boxes

[still fjord]

Guys, I'm a very new player at cap lvl57,
I picked up HoS because she's very fun to play. Should I go out of my way to grind her rank up? Where is a good stopping point?

[frozen crypt]

as a new player S0 should be enough to get you pretty far

you should get nebulous duality for free with starter's manual, it's pretty good on her. As for stigs just use marco tm attila b

if you decide you want to play her long term later on that's when you should consider investing into ranks, its too early to do that rn

[lime talon]

any tips on beating qmani fold red lotus? im struggling even on the first phase

[frozen crypt]

what's your team, gear, and what enemies is it

[stark geyser]

is there a bp arsenal shp prio guide or pin?

[frozen crypt]

!faq honor

[small willow]

BP Arsenal

Hey there, Captain!

'Honor Chips' are a currency earned as you progress the battle pass and they are used to purchase materials in the BP Arsenal - this resets on the first Monday of every patch just like BP itself.

Battle Pass Tier Difference:

• Vanguard BP: 2100 Honor Chips.
• Knight BP: 7950 Honor Chips.
• Paladin BP: 12150 Honor Chips.

Purchase Priorities:

1. Equipment Supply Card.
2. SC Metal-H2.
3. Buy other materials as you need them.
4. SS Imaginons.
5. Do not buy Valkyrie Gacha Eggs.

[frozen crypt]

@stark geyser

[cedar turtle]

Hey does anyone know how often chances to get Herrscher of Finality come around. I really want to get her (just cause) but I don't have enough to for pity.

[frozen crypt]

Not very often and those opportunities will get less and less until she eventually gets put in dorm supply and/or bp

When S valks are around 2 years old they enter an awkward state where there's just no way to get them for a little while

[cedar turtle]

Ooph, thanks for letting me know 😦

[solar drum]

is sakura samsara related to something

[thick bolt]

retelling of the sakura arc manga events in the game

happens pre main story

[spiral badge]

did you mean related in a gameplay way? Otherwise for future lore and story questions, please ask in #📚honkai-lore

@solar drum

[lime talon]

sorry for late reply but here it is:

[frozen crypt]

Why FR?

I'd try RC instead if you have her

And I hope you're using decent support gear too

Sw vs mechs won't be too pleasant but it might work in lower abyss idk

!faq fhm

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[sweet flax]

considering beginners get rc and jk for free im suprised you wouldnt use either or

[worldly pendant]

What is NA abyss???

[spiral badge]

abyss on the north america global server.

Abyss can refer to quantum manifold for low level players or super string dimension for high level players.

The reason why people bring this up is because abyss isn't the same across servers. There's a value called disturbance that changes how strong enemies are and this can be different across servers.

So this difference can change fine tuned plans for the fight and precise scores.

[worldly pendant]

Ah ty

[green sail]

When do i switch from Q-manifold to Superstring Dimension? I'm lvl 81 now but it's still Q-manifold!?

[spiral badge]

did you breakthrough recently?

gamemodes won't change until their next reset upon a breakthrough

[green sail]

Like 2 days ago

Q manifold is still haunting me

I mean i keep on winning but

Switch me already😭

[spiral badge]

did you breakthrough on wednesday after finalization?

well anyway it should change after this finalization

that or maybe ther'es something regarding q mani i wasn't aware of in terms of its duration

[green sail]

And when is that?

[sweet flax]

sunday

[green sail]

😌It's okay ill survive

[sweet flax]

either way you will be in superstring come monday

[green sail]

How do i craft these stings tho

*stigmata

[sweet flax]

if craftable, you can find those stigs in foundry

most of them are basic stigs, not g sigs

[green sail]

I remember crafting 2 Theresa gluttony but I forgor how to get to the foundry

[sweet flax]

supply > foundry

or equipment > stigmata > craft

[green sail]

Ty I'm so dumb😭

Are those weapons in the team recommendations also craft able?

[sweet flax]

which teams specifically?

because you wouldnt use nebs on jk for example anymore

[spiral badge]

if it's ingame recommendations then they're possibly not recommended

the only ingame recommendations we really recommend are the gameplay ones in tactics class, covering valks and basic mechanics

[green sail]

Also what's the fastest way to get imagions? I've seen people with a lot of them but idrk the best way to get em😭

[calm kernel]

Well you do have to still reach level 81 after breaking through.. but that's not a lot of exp

[green sail]

Is it to just farm open world lmao

[frozen crypt]

open world adventure tasks are the primary source yes, evenst also tend to give around 25ish of each/either type

[spiral badge]

@calm kernel yeah but they already confirmed it here

[spiral badge]

if you're desperate you can spend stamina on expeditions for them. Only do the acts that totals to 60 stamina. Any acts that totals to less aren't guarantee to drop one if you exhaust all attempts for the act

what purpose are seeking ae imags for? if it's for honkai shards then events, bp works shop, and armada shop are additional sources

[green sail]

Ty

Also i need them to craft stigmata lol

[spiral badge]

meta wise that shouldn't really be a priority nowadays but i don't have further sources to say there

[maiden garden]

just curious is the 3% flame dps from the 8 year badge good?

[hasty bobcat]

Is starter Kiana good enough to build or

I need yall to like circle who I should build

[solar drum]

yeah gameplay wise

i thought apho only contain specific maps from its story

[spiral badge]

that question sounds more like lore

gameplay wise open worlds are all separate maps

and the only relation they have to the main mode are the rewards you get, permanent and limited time ones

[solar drum]

are the open world tasks only autoplayable or can be done while playing

[spiral badge]

the only lore thing i would be willing to really say is obviously apho1 takes place before apho2 and that there are some pretty big spoilers if you try to jump into apho2 immediately

the tasks can be lite cleared with hoho vacation tickets

i thought my asterite guide write up covered that

!faq asterite

[small willow]

Asterite Priority

Hello, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view the Asterite Priority list!
-# Aimed at beginner accounts.

Also see Professor Sairaan's Asterite Sources breakdown [here](#👶beginner-help message).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

https://i.imgur.com/HYRHZQx.png

[solar drum]

oh

[maiden garden]

this any good?

idk how powerful badges are tbh

[spiral badge]

it's better than nothing. Read the effects and put on what's most relevant to your current team

they're marginal

but even marginal benefits can matter late in the game

early on it's prob not a big deal

keep in mind only physicals can crit in this game. not elementals

[maiden garden]

well yea as im only on ch10 i dont think it matters until far later

[spiral badge]

story progression isn't really a measure of your account development

because eventually, esp from where you are now, you'll always be given trial valks to use that are good enough to clear, and won't even be able to use your own valks for the most part

the game locks you to specific trial valks for immersion purposes

[maiden garden]

its to bad but also kinda a bliss depends on how you look at it

[spiral badge]

but this also means you don't need to own anything to enjoy the story

[maiden garden]

that is a plus side tbh

but i guess events and what not are more seen as account progression?

[spiral badge]

even events don't really need anything of your own to enjoy

the main use cases to things you own are

• abyss (quantum manifold for now)
• memorial arena
• elysian realm

there's a few other minor modes where you need to use what you have like stress trials, expeditions, mirage but those are much less important

of the three, abyss gives the most crystals and eventually has you competing against other players. This is why meta advice and account development even early on are important. But meta slave if you're not having fun. The game is highly adjustable enough to suit a balance between meta and casualness

[maiden garden]

wait theres pvp?

[spiral badge]

not direct pvp

but rather competing against other players for higher scores

[maiden garden]

so just character built teams controlled by ai

[spiral badge]

how fast you can kill the boss basically

team builds and execution

uh no not by ai

[maiden garden]

oooh

[spiral badge]

you still need to play well

[slim blaze]

think of time attack