👶beginner-help

[urban lake]

[rotund pasture]

(Sry, forgot to ask the question)I cant get the block timing right whatsoever, does anyone have a tip for that? I press as soon as the purple light blinks up

[spiral badge]

can you specify the stage? This is a very old stage that people only need to clear once. So it's not easy to remember

i'll check in a bit. Sorry for the delay

[abstract sequoia]

Just maxed my Gene Limits except for the last Crit Rate upgrade. What should I do with the realms of battle donuts now? Better to turn them into asterite or take the Phase Shifters and ELF mats?

Probably just based on what I need more, correct?

[urban lake]

bro forgor to ask I cant-

[spiral badge]

hey don't shame

it's somewhat common for people to post something and forget to actually state their question actually

the image you post here is from the start > challenge tab menu it seems

so i'm not sure if you're talking about hofs specifically or some other valk in it

[urban lake]

no shame I just found it funny

[quick birch]

Sometimes i forget to actually write some words into my response so my answer looks like total nonsense can happen to anyone

[spiral badge]

so again can you please specify? I can't possibly search through all stages for every character to figure out what you're asking about

[urban lake]

damn I realy should clarify

misunderstandings are a problem

[spiral badge]

yeah be mindful that people can interpret your words differently

[urban lake]

[urban lake]

will do

[spiral badge]

finding it funny can still be a sensitive matter to some people too

esp when they didn't intend it

[urban lake]

yeah ok, noted

[spiral badge]

i understand you had no ill intentions so dw about it

[urban lake]

I was just 2 lazy 2 type(like rn)

[dusky kelp]

what is soft pity on astral ops?

[frozen crypt]

No

None

!faq rates

[small willow]

The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

• Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k ) vs 78 pulls (22k )
• Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k )
• Worst Case:
• Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k ) vs 150 pulls (42k )

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[frozen crypt]

Only battlesuit supply data suggests there is a soft pity

[quick birch]

Wasnt it confirmed by Korean supply info that there is at least some sort of soft pity

for battlesuit supply

[frozen crypt]

Hmm not sure

[sweet flax]

i've never seen that mentioned anywhere, do you know any korean player who can verify?

[frozen crypt]

I only saw the stuff confirming the actual rate per pull is 0.9% for S rank, the 1.5% just considers the guaranteed character card every 10x

[quick birch]

also possible that im just remembering things wrong

[frozen crypt]

I mean they had to add it because of legislation so surely soft pity would be in there also

Idk, don't know any kr players only saw one screenshot

[quick birch]

yeah i also dont know any kr player and we probably saw the same one

[sweet flax]

surely there's a korean lurker here who can help provide a screenshot

[frozen crypt]

In beginner help?

As soon as KR players launch the game they are nirvana

[sweet flax]

you never know

[lime talon]

do i save trial cards?

[thick bolt]

there isn't much of a place to use them apart from like some stages in the first 6 chapters or the expeditions. You can use em if you want

[lime talon]

ok cuz i just started, kinda concerned if i shouda used them after

do i mass level up herrsher the void? shes my only s rank rn

like spend all resource possible?

[sterile river]

No

[lapis mason]

is there a link/guide on how to do this

[lime talon]

can someone explain to me what friends do in this game? like where and when can i use there valkries

[frozen crypt]

This event is a rerun I believe there were guides on youtube for it

[frozen crypt]

Not a lot to be honest

You can use friend support in some story chapters and their valk will come fight + you will get their leader skill benefit too

Sim battle heavily relies on friend leader skill too but it has lite so most people don't even use it now

[mental coral]

Day whatever without Kiana weapon 16 away

Elysian realm is done

[sweet flax]

All shalow sequences? Did you level all your valks to 15? Collection?

[mental coral]

No I didn't

But I clear max difficulty with vita

Only 2 is to level 15 vita and coralie

[rotund pasture]

The first one with bronya sry

[lime talon]

uh can anyone recoommond me what i spend my crystals on? i somehow just got 3k

[rotund pasture]

Save

[lime talon]

oh ok dont spend yet?

[quick birch]

you can try to get the new kiana (FWS) but keep 16,8k crystals so that you can guarantee her weapon

you always want to pull valk+weapon

[lime talon]

i just started so thats probably unlikely, 16,800? crystals?

[quick birch]

16.800 crystals yes, beginners get crystals really fast trough beginner manual, story and other various crystal sources. There is no need to rush though its best if you do it in you own pace.

You can check out " crystal sources " in the pinns

[lime talon]

how much total do u think for new kiana? with weapon

[spiral badge]

are you using drive kometa augment form or just yamabuki? I know the augment can just hold her shield and release when hit. I don't remember if base yamabuki can do the same

you can also give her alot of movement boosting equipment (mainly one of the elizabeth stigmatas) to help her run away from enemies

I think jingwei M might be an option? But i wouldn't craft it if you can help it.

[quick birch]

the average amount is ~ 30k crystals guarantee is 42k. Since you cant gurantee kiana + her weapon you only want to spend pulls that are above 16,8k crystals (60 pulls) so that if you get lucky you can still guarantee her weapon

[lime talon]

alright thx

also i b chips only obtainable by buying with irl money?

[thick bolt]

yeah

it is the premium currency of the game

[lime talon]

alr

[slim blaze]

Damn whale talk

[rotund pasture]

how do i switch again?

[spiral badge]

click yellow icon here https://i.imgur.com/tj8W8Di.png

then this on the left

if you don't have it then don't worry about it for now

[cyan dune]

Who's a good grab from this set?

[spiral badge]

check pins

[rotund pasture]

white dot to the left?

[spiral badge]

no the white part of the toggle should be on the right to turn on the core

in my screenshot it's on

[rotund pasture]

ok good

its severe skill issue im afraid

this stupid mode

[spiral badge]

are you holding shield and releasing when hit?

other things that may help are evasion cooldown reduction gear if you have them

but these sort of gears aren't really easy to get

[rotund pasture]

yes i try but i cant see when holdinhg

[spiral badge]

mobile touch screen? I don't have much to say about that then sorry

examples of evasion cooldown reduction are kongming T, Elysia M, sirin ascendant m, shakespeare or fuxi 2pc iirc

the main one to consider from this is prob kongming T while putting on elizabeth B for movement speed

[rotund pasture]

these green things that dash are annoying, they 1 hit and i cant even see them charge up

[spiral badge]

i'm not sure what those are tbh

but you can try looking up a tutorial on youtube

i don't really have much more to say about these stages sorry. Did them years ago

[rotund pasture]

i will try, ty

[odd plume]

it's mostly just time your block correctly and run

[rotund pasture]

they group up on my at around 1min

thats when im screwed

And that guy right there

40sec...

[spiral badge]

i never thought of that guy as green lol

but i see it now

sorry i don't know what more i can suggest. perhaps you can look for some m stig if you don't already have ely or sirin asc to get more damage reduction

or maybe you can find a weapon you want to use the active on alot and then put on siegfried m, raiden mei m, or theresa origins m (worse but very cheap)

[lime talon]

not working, im captain level 24

[thick bolt]

Double check that the invite code you're using is from the same server

[lime talon]

how do i check the server im on?

[thick bolt]

You can try comparing the time in the profile with the ones here #status message
Otherwise it shows up on the login page
I can't remember where else

[lime talon]

on the login, it only says tap anywhere to start, i dont see where i could select region

[ancient needle]

Then you're most likely SEA

[lime talon]

yea

[dry python]

NA role smh

[lime talon]

i just tried inviting a personing in sea

[dry python]

Here 19131974GG

[ancient needle]

Mf didn't backread

[dry python]

I meant they took na role when they're sea

[ancient needle]

I mean, that's just the classic here

[lime talon]

sorry, im in NA region and i took na cuz i thought it was auto

[dry python]

Classic wher

[misty falcon]

is there still a way to get fools oath and youths oath emblem? apparently you get it by ||defeating vill v and kosma in er|| but im not able to do that and i dont see it in the emblems section

[quick birch]

are you completly done with ER story yet? all 3 chapters.

[misty falcon]

yeah all 100%

[quick birch]

Weird i can normally fight both of them at the end of a run and they appear in the achievements section for ER mission. No idea why you cant actually

[misty falcon]

yeah im not sure i dont see them in the achievements section either

wait nvm i forgot there was er in the story chapters maybe it has something to do with that

[odd pecan]

if i'm right, next battle pass gonna be during 2-3 versions. It means that there's need to buy bp one time or every version?

[thick bolt]

Battlepass bought lasts just for that version, the bp season itself lasts for 4 versions.

Each season has it's own valk and gear selection in the bp shop which you can only use that season's crystallum to buy

[odd pecan]

so it means i need to buy bp 4 times

[thick bolt]

If you want the things that come with it over the season since bought bp gives more crystallum than free bp, i.e you can buy more stuff

This is the last patch of this season however so I won't suggest buying the bp.

It's also || getting revamped a bit next patch, the details of which should be in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins, though I can clarify if needed ||

[odd pecan]

i just asking cuz got curious
Honestly i thought that there's need to buy bp 4 times

[thick bolt]

iirc you need to have done the fight in the EE to unlock them in ER

[thick bolt]

well if you want the bp to last the entire season then it does come to 4 bought

but then there comes the question of what it is you want from the shop that you're buying that many times

or maybe you just want the mats that come with the bp, that's one of the reasons

[odd pecan]

i'm confused 0-0
Every version i need to buy bp if i want valk from it or materials till season ends?

[thick bolt]

maybe this can help #👶beginner-help message

Lemme know if you still need clarification

[odd pecan]

i just need an understanding. There's season including 4 versions and each versions includes it's battle pass,right?

[thick bolt]

yes

the bp shop just remains the same for those 4 versions

[odd pecan]

and there's need to buy bp every version?

[thick bolt]

it isn't a "need"

f2p bp just works fine

but if you want more of the crystallum to get more things from the shop then you'll need to buy bp depending on what it is you want

[odd pecan]

u get from f2p bp 20 crystallum which isn't enough to buy valk?

[thick bolt]

Say for example you want a valk, they cost 32 bp balls
F2p bp just gives 5 per patch meaning you can get 20 in the entire season, to get 32 and buy that valk you'd have to buy Knight bp at least 2 times

[thick bolt]

yeah pretty much

[odd pecan]

damn, i just thought that montly card really better probably

[thick bolt]

monthly card is better for the crystal value

bp is if you want the old stuff hoyo decided to throw in the bp

it being old stuff isn't relevant in the meta anymore, most of the time at least

[quick birch]

even if you could get enough balls in one season valks and elf are locked behind purchasing a higher BP tier regardless of the ball income

[thick bolt]

^^

[odd pecan]

honestly i just started to have thoughts about it cuz idk what to do...
I got badum kiana with full equip and idk what to do/expect from game like next and at the same time i need to hold back to not open s-rank egg and box from 8th day

[quick birch]

||also the whole season thing is getting changed next BP|| Starfire already mentioned #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins if you want to know more about it

[odd pecan]

i'll check it later,thx for saying

[misty falcon]

wait im sorry what does ee stand for

[thick bolt]

Elysium Everlasting arc
Ch 29-31

[cyan dune]

is badum kiana good to pull?

[tough raven]

what keybinds do you use

anyone use their mouse to click shit....? i need better keybinds

[cyan dune]

Tbh if you have a spare controller it feels so much better

[shadow gyro]

yes if you can afford her and her weapon
otherwise save

[tough raven]

guess ill try that lol

[haughty elbow]

yeah

[tough raven]

ooo wtf

[haughty elbow]

mouse as main inputs
keyboard to follow up if i need to use multiple inputs at once

[cyan dune]

Ok stupid question, I think I got her weapon but I'm not sure cause it looks like it has three forms. Is this it?

[shadow gyro]

yes

[quick birch]

This is her weapon yes

[cyan dune]

Ok thank you lol

[quick birch]

Why pull though if you don't even have her ?

[shadow gyro]

although please don't pull the weapon before the valk

[cyan dune]

I got lucky with some of my beginner equipment cards and Ik I want her so beginner bonuses usually are enough to get a character in these games but also a bit of gamba impulsively

[calm kernel]

i get the others but V as a bind for basic is just vile

[tough raven]

yeh i wasted a 10 on the starter banner lol and im probs still gonna be able to go all the way to pity for weapon/basically did on badum banner

[tough raven]

bros got a longer than average thumb 🤷🏼‍♂️

[cyan dune]

So also does hi3 have a 50/50 like other hoyo games cause if im reading correctly it doesn't

[haughty elbow]

? why would my thumb be hitting v

[shadow gyro]

no it doesn't

[quick birch]

thankfully not

[tough raven]

you use your fucking fingers to hit v?

you take your fingers off of wasd ?

[haughty elbow]

i dont even press v much
i click atk

[tough raven]

ah

[haughty elbow]

do i need all 4 fingers on wasd??

[calm kernel]

mans got 4 fingers

[tough raven]

even when i play league i still sit em on wasd lol

[haughty elbow]

4 fingers 1 thumb

[calm kernel]

is thumb not a finger

[tough raven]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbthumb-thumb-jason-spykids-spy-gif-5917200

are they fingers or thumbs.

[calm kernel]

Although in some languages, including the Icelandic and Russian, the thumb is referred to as “the big finger”, in other languages, including the English, it is considered as a special digit, a non-finger.

the more you know

[harsh forge]

I accidently clicked on part 2 ch 5 story and I cant leave is there any way I can?

[calm kernel]

alt+f4

[harsh forge]

yeah I did that, but I have a quest to start part 2, and when I try to go back into the part 2 menu it just puts me back to ch 5

[calm kernel]

just select ch1-3 from the story menu

[harsh forge]

ok

Alright that seems to work thank you

[tough raven]

what am i purchasing here

an elf is most valuable right ?

[quick birch]

You can check out sairaans guide in the pins it takes many things into consideration. But regarding the fact that you can't afford HoRb, Elfs can be valuable for you. If you decide to buy elf boxes, wait till next version to open them we will get a free S rank elf there

[tough raven]

hmm

aight but what would the point of getting horb when i dont have her weapon n shit like investing crystals into her would be a waste no?

[next spade]

Guys i have a VIDEO of a HSR youtuber thats using a Hi3 song i need to know the song i know its a mini game of an event we had a whiiile ago but idk the name of it can i send it somewhere or to someone?

[quick birch]

It's a gamble that she will get a divine key at some point. No guarantee though

[ancient needle]

Just send it here ig

[next spade]

https://youtu.be/ZQ3pFqfNsIU?t=1877
minute 31:15

Wait was it SEELE EVENT OST? NO

[ancient needle]

I can't hear it at all xdd

[harsh forge]

oh yeah, mr.pokke editor uses a lot of hi3 music for his videos lol

[next spade]

Yeah i know

[next spade]

maybe cuz im using headphones?

[glossy hemlock]

isnt that just the dorm ost

[next spade]

i can clearly hear it, sharp ear

[next spade]

TRUEEEE

Lets fucking GOOO

https://tenor.com/view/cat-vibing-jam-gif-18774874

[celest aurora]

Is it bad luck to still have no weapon and half way through pity

[cyan dune]

is it worth top save for rebirth?

[quick birch]

no thats to be expected

[quick birch]

Can you elaborate what you want to save for Rebirth. If you mean crystals no

[cyan dune]

the event tokens sorry lol

[quick birch]

You have to spend 44.8k crystals for HoRb if you dont hit that goal till kiana banner ends you wont be able to buy it anyway. I assume you are rather new? if yes spending so many crystals seems unlikely.

Also dont bump any excess crystals on random banners if that goal is far away. Spending event goals are a nice benefit not something you should waste crystals for

does that make it clear ?

The event ends on the 4th of April and the Shop closes on the 11th of April so you can just wait till the events ends and ask us on what you should spend it then.

[cyan dune]

got it thank you!

[lean sleet]

i just to know who is current best dps and support so that i can get them
is void character good?

[quick birch]

There is no " best DPS " a DPS can be BiS on one abyss weather and can be insanely ass on the next one. But the rule of thumb is that you mainly want to focus new units. HoV is good for early game but won't be good for endgame content.

Also p2 s rank units are both support and DPS

You always want to pull valk + weapon in this game btw

[lean sleet]

well thats kind of hard and it costs to gems to do 10 pulls (it just cost 1600 in other games and here its 2800)
beside story i dont even know how to earn that much

[amber finch]

different games different income

[quick birch]

That's just the currency, how much we actually earn is different between those games. We have a pin for "crystal sources" go check that out. For beginners story is a very nice crystal source but it takes a lot of time and can be exhausting

[amber finch]

dont compare them like that

[quick birch]

In general don't try to apply your genshin or hsr knowledge here hi3rd is very different from these games

[amber finch]

hi3 is just old

its 8 years old at this point

ofc the system will be different

[quick birch]

Yeah they just already compared both games so I wanna give them a little heads up to not apply their knowledge from these games onto hi3rd.

[odd plume]

this is a competitive game, as a competitive f2p, you can reach top 2~0.2% if you play smart enough
in term of pulling, you can get about 70~80% of the debut valk with their wp as a competitive f2p, not bad for gacha game standard

[chilly zealot]

Is there more after this?

[obsidian fulcrum]

i need help beating wendy im using ba-dum song que and azure empyrea any tips?

[tall flax]

I think Coralie works better than Azure Empyrea

[maiden garden]

is the kiana festival girl worth it

[obsidian fulcrum]

yep, great dps and broken for er

[raw wraith]

Which ytb channels u guys most watching when u dont know how to get high scores in abyss ?

[maiden garden]

okkk

[maiden garden]

idk

is it easy to become pro

how much months does it take

[obsidian fulcrum]

as soon as you get a good valkyrie with their signiture weapon you will get better trust

[maiden garden]

ok

[sweet flax]

While she is, only consider pulling for her if you can garuntee her weapon as well (have at least 16.8k crystals, 60 pulls, ready so you can get her weapon as soon as you pull her.)

And regarding competitive play, depends how competitively you want to perform, it takes a good amount of time to be consistent with that

[maiden garden]

i want to be able to finish endgame without struggling

[spiral badge]

i guess i answered this already in the other channel.

[sweet flax]

Do keep in mind abyss is separated by tiers, if you wanna be able to compete in higher tiers (mainly redlotus) you want to have a full team geared, generally speaking this can take a newer player 2 patches on average to be prepared for

[raw wraith]

Yea i saw that and i asked that before u replied me tysm btw

[sweet flax]

Your own skill is also a major factor in determining how easy the abyss becomes, knowing proper rots and team synergies

[maiden garden]

so about 3 months ? avg

[spiral badge]

yeah just wanted to say it here so other helpers dont' spend extra time when they're already helping other people

[sweet flax]

Some sources mention future patches will also be 8 weeks long, so a bit longer

[maiden garden]

ok

[sweet flax]

I can't give you a direct answer until we know for sure

[maiden garden]

does thus game have artifacts

like a rng to building

[maiden garden]

ok

[sweet flax]

No, the equivalent to artifacts are stigmata which are craftable in foundry or obtainable through the weapon banner, you also get a box every patch with one of the debut valk's stigmata in it

The only rng is stigmata affix rng (affixes are the equivalent of substats but much easier to deal with) which you don't need to worry about until wayyy later

[maiden garden]

ok ty !

do i need to invest alot of time into the game to get good

also how is team building ?

[sweet flax]

Depends on your goals, if you wanna perform as good as possible competitively you would need to put a fair amount of time and effort to learn the game properly, otherwise more casual players tend to prioritise enjoying the story

[maiden garden]

is the story confusing

[sweet flax]

Much more simpler now

[sweet flax]

Imo you can get lost early on if not paying attention, but everything connects and makes sense the more chapters you do

[maiden garden]

can you explain that to me pls

[sweet flax]

Keep story spoilers outside of this channel

[maiden garden]

im still lost

[spiral badge]

yeah sorry i'll have to delete that

please be mindful that other beginners that aren't as far as you are here

if you have story questions go ask in #📚honkai-lore

[maiden garden]

sorry i forgot !

[spiral badge]

the help channels are more for mechanics and meta guidance.

[sweet flax]

And no I cannot explain the story to you here, if you want someone to explain the story properly to you I'd suggest checking #📚honkai-lore but keep in mind you will enter spoiler territory

[maiden garden]

ok

[runic canopy]

[spiral badge]

we understand you're new so don't fret over it. Just avoid making such mistakes in the future

[sweet flax]

[spiral badge]

we also do not allow openly talking about future new content here. That belongs in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion mostly. But if you need help planning for it, you can mark it in ||spoiler tags like this||. Put || on both sides.

Lastly this is an official server so unofficial leaks are not allowed at all

[runic canopy]

Hewooo

[spiral badge]

oh and i should specify. Story even with spoiler tagging isn't acceptable here. They must go to lore channel.

anyway the pins does explain this

[sweet flax]

Goes without saying that there are also a lot of people here who cope things that haven't been hinted, so do try to avoid participating in such conversations as to not get a false idea (cough horb dkey copers)

[sweet flax]

Haiiiii

Is this emblem better than the redlotus one for elemental teams?

[runic canopy]

RL still better iirc

[autumn oxide]

more or less

[dry python]

[maiden garden]

is this good i got them on my first 10 pull how do i invest in them ?

[sweet flax]

That's great, try to get fws (kiana) weapon

As for the second, ignore her for now

[runic canopy]

[shadow gyro]

that's very lucky! do get kiana's weapon and do get their stigmatas (you'll get kiana's stigmatas as you pull for the weapon but if you miss any pieces then use the stigmata box, if missing another then use the foundry)
as for eepy teri, get her stigmatas from the foundry (and the stigmata box if you have it) and ignore her weapon

[sweet flax]

I don't think it's a good idea for a beginner to get teri stigs especially when they have no use for her

[junior lantern]

[frozen crypt]

Agree

If beginners had prisms to waste crafting an entire set we'd recommend tsiol if anything

But they don't

[abstract sequoia]

Depends, when in doubt test both.

I had good experience with both, but it's usually different teams that make the difference

it's kind of the same story as the 3% Fire Dmg emblems

[mental python]

Not about to go insane btw

[ancient needle]

Are you making sure to target it's arm? Set the targeting to Free in the settings to make it easier

If you break the arm it takes more damage

[sweet flax]

Either way not getting more than 700 in abyss, not sure if skill issue or no dudu issue

[mental python]

Yeah but I used Astral before breaking it.

Been trying for 30 minutes now so I’ll just give up, it’s not even worth it at this point 🥲

I’ll pray that most people struggle on the stage so I don’t demote

[sweet flax]

A3 or rl؟

[mental python]

A2

[sweet flax]

. . .

[mental python]

My bad for not pulling any physical P2 Valk such as:

• Durandal
  -…
  That’s it

[amber finch]

i feel like its more of a rotation issue if your team is fully geared

[sweet flax]

I cleared them in rl with fws (also songque is physical

[amber finch]

because a2 is uh how do i put it… easy as breathing

actually you might take it wrong

[sweet flax]

Not to point fingers but struggling in a2 is.... ye

What team are you using and are they geared

[amber finch]

its prob a rotation issue which is totally normal

[storm cobalt]

🙂

[amber finch]

we can fix it, just gotta record

[storm cobalt]

Next roa character when 🙏

[amber finch]

just making sure if its the right team and its geared properly

and you said you didnt pull for dudu so you probably have songque so you should use her if you have her geared

and he’s gone

was it too much

i was too aggressive wasnt i

[storm cobalt]

Probably went to practice no ? 🤔 idk

[amber finch]

practice what

anyways

[storm cobalt]

Idk lmao I can't tell if bo phys is skill issue gap able

[amber finch]

https://tenor.com/view/jinki948-cat-disappear-funny-cat-cat-cute-cat-gif-22510474

[storm cobalt]

👋

[sweet flax]

You don't need physical for the side stages tbh

[amber finch]

it is in a2 btw and it is in rl and nirv, the side stages arent hard

actually nirv would require you to have a more polished team but that’s to be expected

[storm cobalt]

I see I'm like lvl 55 so er 🕺

[amber finch]

dont try to spew random facts then

[ancient needle]

iirc these mob stages are very tanky, you might struggle without Phys/QUA respectively in RL

[storm cobalt]

I didn't say any facts lmao I stated very clearly idk in the sentence

[amber finch]

they arent that tanky, i cleared it with lantern

[ancient needle]

Both Phys and QUA?

[amber finch]

ye

[ancient needle]

[amber finch]

i dont have anything for qua so i just lantern it

[ancient needle]

Oh, right, the QUA stage has ele buffs, I forgor

[amber finch]

phys is just for fun

[ancient needle]

I was assessing based on how VQ performed (which was meh cuz ele buffs don't apply)

[amber finch]

kek

took me like 3:30m per stage tho

anyways if you’re that close then i suggest maybe a change in rotation or maybe a change in valks if you got anyone else @mental python

[sweet flax]

how to get good score on boss without dudu

[amber finch]

funny joke

[sweet flax]

send help

[amber finch]

sss pe got like 730 so theres that

you can also try hofi if you got her dkey

[sweet flax]

I do.... hoo is ungeared

and the guy who got 6 points more than me was using herrscher trio

[amber finch]

yeah nvm then

[sweet flax]

and uhh, pe might be suffering from a small problem

[amber finch]

[sweet flax]

[amber finch]

ughhhh

uhheh lemme thinkk

[mental python]

Nono it’s fine

[amber finch]

theres sonker

[sweet flax]

671 points

[mental python]

I understand that the issue lies with me because obviously I was 2% away from completing the stage

[amber finch]

owh

s2 bita with skin fookin whel

[mental python]

However doesn’t help that the first phase has 2 mobs that will not stick together, phase two has 3 mobs that will stun lock you constantly if you don’t dodge properly, phase 3 has the protagonist from the rising of the shield hero and phase 4 has a full boss battle 🤨

[sweet flax]

once again we are here to help, so dont feel discouraged

[ancient needle]

List your geared valks

[sweet flax]

p1 & p2?

[ancient needle]

Ye

[mental python]

Like this guy will turn faster than the hilichurls in genshin

[amber finch]

what is that team

[ancient needle]

Sparkle Helia Coralie?

Do you not have any other P2 valks?

[amber finch]

also turn coralie’s qte off

[ancient needle]

In Helia + Coralie it's fine

[mental python]

Nope , I have elysia but she’ll 100% do worse since level 55 weapon vs sparkle maxed out weapon

[amber finch]

having it off is abit better in my experience

[tardy vortex]

is there a certain elf i should go for for the free selector? i have kiaelf, elysia, and klein elf

[amber finch]

sparkle ely coralie

[tardy vortex]

and watersedge

[amber finch]

why arent you using ely what the

[ancient needle]

!faq ches
Ely can't support WS lah

[amber finch]

oh wait sparkle is not loa?

[ancient needle]

Nope

[amber finch]

i was dead wrong

[mental python]

Also not going to lie, I don’t get the stage skill at all. When am I supposed to “break the shield” ?

Before it’s even applied or while it’s applied

[ancient needle]

I don't think the shields are breakable with ele DMG

[amber finch]

that’s a phys shield, you use a phys valk to break it

[mental python]

But I have a stage skill that refreshes on each monster kill… I just don’t get what shield it’s even taking about

[sweet flax]

p1:
mmg 4/4 SS... (idr)
jk 3/4 SS (no weapon)
io 4/4 SS
hotr 3/4 SS (no m stig)
da 4/4 SSS
horb 4/4 S2
HoS 4/4 SS

p2:
vbm 4/4 SSS
vbs 4/4 SS3
tfm 4/4
lp 4/4 S2
jds 4/4
lds 3/4 (no weapon)
mps 4/4
dsa 3/4 (no weapon)
hohe + dkey 4/4 S3
hofi + dkey 4/4 S2
fws 4/4

these are the ones that are geared

[amber finch]

the stage skill prevents the shield from being refreshed basically

in your case the skill is useless

since you cant break the shield

[ancient needle]

JDS Vita Thele is ez 780+

[sweet flax]

[ancient needle]

Oh wow, S2 Vita too

[amber finch]

he’s getting 670 somehow

[ancient needle]

Nvm, that's with Sera

[mental python]

Oh okay

[amber finch]

he has s sera too

[mental python]

sorry I accidentally pinged you

[sweet flax]

I dont think skill issue justifies a 110 point difference

[ancient needle]

Then gotta straighten out them hands

[sweet flax]

[ancient needle]

Record a run

[amber finch]

it can

[ancient needle]

Get her to 80 pls 😭

ik it doesn't do much, but still

[sweet flax]

ok

[amber finch]

this is where the 110p was at frfr

[mental python]

🤏 this close from wasting all my resources on maxing out Helia

[amber finch]

wont do much

[mental python]

She hits for solid 400 lighting damage per shot surely she can carry

The shield guy breaks my souls ngl

[sweet flax]

btw when should I be SO'ing?

I do it right as the boss spawns

and charge the second one during second phase

[ancient needle]

I was doing the same iirc, but that was a slack run

Awa diffed me, you can ask him

[sweet flax]

who was awa again

[ancient needle]

@haughty elbow

[sweet flax]

well since you pinged him already ig I wait

[ancient needle]

No, you improve your cognitive flexibility by forcing yourself to experiment 🗿

[sweet flax]

checking bili

I have an idea to try, but I wanna see if there's already a run on there

[cold skiff]

what is the combo to knock enemies airborne with night squire?

[lime talon]

how do i get enough 8th anniversary annulon for herrscher rebirth? it costs 320 but i only see 120 available from event

[storm cobalt]

🙂

[quick birch]

You have to spend 44.8k crystals. once you reach a goal a new one appears thats why you dont see everything at once

[ancient needle]

Don't go out of your way to spend 44.8k unless you're really close tho

[lime talon]

ah that makes a lot more sense

[lime talon]

5k after day 1 😭

[sweet flax]

the only one I found was an a3 ref (I didnt know those existed LMFAO)

[mental python]

It lived with 1% hp btw

Also am I crazy or wasn’t Coralie supposed to also heal ?

[ancient needle]

Wait a sec, is that the first or the second stage?

And it's best if you record a run ofc

[mental python]

Second stage , the one on top basically

[sweet flax]

well its an improvement

[amber finch]

be better grahh

you’re a disgrace to the s2 vita haver gang

[quick birch]

She is, even if she wouldnt healing shouldnt be that important

[sweet flax]

https://tenor.com/view/honkai-vita-honkai-vita-gear-hi3-gif-11073309380799713063

well I recoreded so imma send it in a sec

delaying the SO got me another 50 points

so maybe if I delay it a bit more

[sweet flax]

bad idea

https://youtu.be/w2l1AtUXV_o

welp its a shit run to say the least

[amber finch]

smh yt kidz

[sweet flax]

💀 dafuq

also my dumbass just realised I used songque ult in the beginning

[ancient needle]

Turn off Thele's QTE, it's useless in WoD

Keep in mind that plunge spam is less damage

[sweet flax]

[ancient needle]

After SO you can start with Thele cuz Breach is still up

[abstract sequoia]

Wait you mean in Redlotus or Nirvana?

[ancient needle]

Ofc it doesn't matter much in this run specifically

[ancient needle]

RL, no RS

[abstract sequoia]

actually got above 700

no RS

Best team should be Badum/JDS/Sparkle

but I can also send a run in a bit

[ancient needle]

What score did you get

[sweet flax]

ye new score is 714 with jds

was a skill issue im afraid

[abstract sequoia]

727

[sweet flax]

eh

[amber finch]

mid smh i got 950 with bita

[abstract sequoia]

the trick is to funnel into JDS as much as possible

[sweet flax]

kyappa....

[abstract sequoia]

she does significantly more damage than badum with that +50% buff

[sweet flax]

I mean I can try doing that

[ancient needle]

Not necessarily, Badum can contribute a lot as well

[abstract sequoia]

she does

[sweet flax]

but I cant see how much atk my songque has on her affix to optimise it further

[abstract sequoia]

its just that she actually becomes the sub-dps in this weather

[ancient needle]

💀

[abstract sequoia]

despite being leader

[ancient needle]

German language moment

[sweet flax]

truly deutsch moment

[abstract sequoia]

Not the :innen

no way

[sweet flax]

de translations are a joke

well anyways imma do a fws run rq

[abstract sequoia]

Not to mention that Nutzer was always a neutral term for Users

[tough raven]

is there a 'fastest way' to lvl ?

[ancient needle]

The main source of EXP is Combat Missions, so not really

The next best is Part 1 story

You don't wanna rush leveling anyway

[sweet flax]

yes, to mention it again de translations are a joke in this game, but I understand it more than english so I gotta compromise

[tough raven]

yeh ong i aint playing this games story

[ancient needle]

Nah, bro, you commit to English to learn it

[sweet flax]

I DONT WANNA

[ancient needle]

English words are shorter, easier to read

[abstract sequoia]

I learned english best by playing games in english

[sweet flax]

is my english not good enough for this channel

[ancient needle]

It is, but you can always be better

[abstract sequoia]

i didn't even notice you had issues with it

so your english is fine

[ancient needle]

Well, keep in mind that it has a shit ton of crystals, you'll need to do that eventually

[tough raven]

nah, i cant see myself ever sitting here and playing through hi3 story, literally so tedious

[amber finch]

i leanred bu uh baes

[ancient needle]

Up to you ofc, just mentioning what you're missing out on

[haughty elbow]

u dont

[ancient needle]

With JDS DPS?

[haughty elbow]

huh

[sweet flax]

I dont?

[tough raven]

im aware, but hi3 is more just the secondary game for me to hsr

[ancient needle]

Or did Badum work out better for you

[haughty elbow]

why would u ping me if not badum dps

[tough raven]

but i do wanna maintain this acc since i do like the hi3 end game stuff

[haughty elbow]

i diffed u with badum

[ancient needle]

Did you not test both

[haughty elbow]

yeah

[abstract sequoia]

I mean I didn't try not SOing yet with Badum dps

[haughty elbow]

and badum was way better

[sweet flax]

so.... never SO with badum?

[ancient needle]

How much better are we talking

[abstract sequoia]

I did do JDS QTE spam

[haughty elbow]

yeah

[abstract sequoia]

How much better

[haughty elbow]

badum can 800 while songque cant

[sweet flax]

do I just alternate between fws and jds qtes and sparkle every 2nd qte?

[rugged compass]

Badum can 800?

[abstract sequoia]

800?

with or without CA cancel

if it's with, I'd understand

[haughty elbow]

with ofc

[ancient needle]

Ok buddy

[haughty elbow]

no clue i used vita i dont have sparkle

[abstract sequoia]

Pretty much, just QTE on sparkle if you can switch from JDS and can ult. Or for AR

[sweet flax]

[abstract sequoia]

ulting JDS is good use of sparkle ult

[ancient needle]

Anyway, you should be getting at least 750 even without the CA cancel

[rugged compass]

What badum supports?

[haughty elbow]

songque vita

[abstract sequoia]

so I'm also skill issued?

[ancient needle]

Vita Songque in Awa's case

[rugged compass]

Should I be able to do decent with Vita HoH?

[haughty elbow]

its basically songque dps but in loa

[abstract sequoia]

and here i thought I mastered little que

[haughty elbow]

no

[ancient needle]

No, you don't have the DPS

[sweet flax]

well if im not using SO wouldnt vita be better than spork?

[ancient needle]

🗿

[haughty elbow]

mayhaps

[rugged compass]

[sweet flax]

[abstract sequoia]

can be

but sparkle gives sp and more ults

[sweet flax]

well find out ig

[rugged compass]

Whats the best non phsical option?

[abstract sequoia]

both you want on jds

[rugged compass]

Unless brick or hare do something

[haughty elbow]

trio

[abstract sequoia]

brick is decent actually from teammates testing yesterday

[rugged compass]

Sena trio?

[haughty elbow]

[abstract sequoia]

not that trio

[rugged compass]

Aw man! I could of never guessed

[abstract sequoia]

WoD trio ofc

[rugged compass]

Next...?

[abstract sequoia]

unironically though, if you have them

[rugged compass]

I dont own hofi or htr

[abstract sequoia]

Okay who else?

[ancient needle]

Thele DPS was okay

[abstract sequoia]

Kind of yeah, but I think she falls flat in 2nd phase

like actually faceplant

[ancient needle]

I got like 700ish after doing 1 run

[abstract sequoia]

okay fair sounds about right

[naive pivot]

why would you not use AO

[ancient needle]

SO? Cuz you can't QTE spam JDS as well

[haughty elbow]

vita hits for -1 dmg
it might be usable if u have songque use it at the end for wod ring with no wod leader

[abstract sequoia]

but doesn't JDS ult do more dmg?

could be fine for 1 SO

[haughty elbow]

wait

[ancient needle]

It does, but the tradeoff is too big
Half an hour Badum and Vita QTEs

[haughty elbow]

that doesnt even work on loa

[naive pivot]

[ancient needle]

I mean, if you kill the boss with it then sure

[rugged compass]

Pt2 valk wise i own
All lightning 4/4 (Sena is 3/4, Helia is 1/4)
Badum 4/4
HoH 4/4

S0 Songqueop
S0 Teriop

[haughty elbow]

so yeah can only ring at the very very end

[abstract sequoia]

that is why you do it at the end. So you won't have to QTE into vita

[haughty elbow]

or else no dmg

[abstract sequoia]

orr you do vita QTE early when HoD regens 2nd phase

[ancient needle]

Nah, it slows it down iirc

[sweet flax]

idk I feel like I lose consistency later on in the run

[abstract sequoia]

ugh

[sweet flax]

im trying to prioritise being on field with songque

[abstract sequoia]

a 2 CA combo might also have potential

but could be slower than just back and forth between badum

on puppets it seems faster

[sweet flax]

ill try

[sweet flax]

too slow

[abstract sequoia]

even on puppets?

[sweet flax]

the ones at the beginning? ye

[abstract sequoia]

like, just continue BAs after QTE and do ult to cancel the slow 3rd BA animation

then chain both CAs

thats how I usually do it

if no ult, you can cancel 3rd BA with CA too

felt super weird, but it works

@sweet flax Unrelated to the strat, but my 727 run. Take it as inspiration.

[sweet flax]

ye no, double ca is too slow

idk why, but it feels like my valks lose tempo after first phase

[abstract sequoia]

thats just HoD turning from paper into dummy thick

[sweet flax]

not getting anywhere with fws

[haughty elbow]

where is ur mob soul link

[abstract sequoia]

my what

[sweet flax]

they dont have soul link?

[haughty elbow]

did i get the term wrong

i think it was called soul link

[sweet flax]

you mean the shared dmg with that green line?

[lone crater]

grey hp dmg

on weap

[abstract sequoia]

uhhh on whom

you mean badum?

i thought it only does that on outburst

[sweet flax]

ye imma be honest, fk this abyss I will just take whatever score I have rn

[abstract sequoia]

its not pretty without RS yeah

t3 for now, but one more dudu puller waking up is enough to change that

[sweet flax]

wanted to give it a shot but I cant even expose the seed with an SO on trio

[abstract sequoia]

I didn't WA

[lone crater]

what did u do on andrius last cycle man

everything depended on that link

[vale raptor]

what team do i use for nihilius?
i only have songque as phys for ar
while i do have ely dkey, thelema, lantern, sparkle & coralie
coralie 3/4, lantern 3/4, sparkle 4/4, thelema 1/4, ely dkey 4/4.
songque 1/4 too

[lone crater]

was about to say try songque thel lant, songque ely lamp, but btw p2 valks just say 0/1 or 1/1

[vale raptor]

highest ive been able to score is 21303

[dry python]

[lone crater]

no weap this valk is usually non-existent

[vale raptor]

ohhh okay

[vale raptor]

ill just give up

[lone crater]

so do u have weap on songque thel lamp

[amber finch]

what the fuck my hands

i forgor my rot for heimdall

what happened to my hands

[lone crater]

dw its just that 3/4 is kinda meaningless to me, so u can keep ur notation if u want, but so do u have weap on thel lamp and songque or not

[vale raptor]

only on lampp

i have the artifacts, or what they're called in hi3

[lone crater]

oh ok, so u have ely+weap, lamp+weap and sparkle+weap thats it?

[vale raptor]

yes

i randomly got both song and thelema this carnv patch

back to back but couldnt get their gears

[lone crater]

coralie weap any chance btw is free from story

[vale raptor]

yes i got it!

[quick birch]

Stigmatas, those are the base line, since p2 they are farmable so the weapon is the only thing that you have to pull which you normally want to get, dont get them now though since you got sonque and thele from carnival.

[lone crater]

ig ely lamp coralie...

[vale raptor]

alright! so should i prioritize their weapons or getting vita/badum?

[lone crater]

or lamp ely coralie

[vale raptor]

okay ill try this one out right now, thank youu

[lone crater]

first question everyone will ask u when u ask stuff like that is always how much u xtals u got

[quick birch]

in general you want to prioritise new valks but you always want to guarantee both the valk + the weapon, so reccomandations varries based on your crystal count and if your f2p or not

[vale raptor]

245

i need 20 more pulls for a guaranteed limited s rank

[vale raptor]

im f2p unfortunately

[quick birch]

well save up 80 pulls now 20 char pulls and 60 for the weapon

[worn willow]

How many fragments does pulling a duplicate S-rank battlesuit give?

[lone crater]

in hi3, everyone gets weap and its a pvp game, and so the standard is to make sure u try to get weap as well too

[quick birch]

50 enough for S2

[worn willow]

Ahh

That explains the S2. I thought I had unknowingly pulled a duplicate before today's pulls 😅

[vale raptor]

i suck at saving up but thank you! once i do get to 80 pulls, who should i prioritize getting as a character?

[quick birch]

its s0->s2->ss->ss1->ss2->ss3->sss

[quick birch]

that depends, the rule of thumb is getting new chars to get their full benefit. Its to early to give any pull recommendations for 8.2 since its still in beta for CN. Its best to ask again whe you have the pulls

[lone crater]

and ideally on day 1

if it turns out that u'll get the char + weap towards end of her banner, u can consider just skip

[abstract sequoia]

Used WA in the rotation to get meter full. I didn't think it was necessary for that too

[lone crater]

if u watched other refs they do a quick swap in to kia after vita ult opening, and kia just weaps then swap out

[abstract sequoia]

I did CA..

[lone crater]

that does nothing man other than reset qte and stellar drain (i forgot if it is stellar drain but u just get a boost of ari)

[abstract sequoia]

great, so I played badum wrong all this time

[lone crater]

the holding atk/combo makes enemy take 18% more dmg (think weap and ult) from badum if its alone, but ur always going to be having ads so

[abstract sequoia]

I should probably just write up what move does what buff, since the skill and gear descriptions seemed too complicated for me to remember

[lone crater]

good enough to just unga bunga

[abstract sequoia]

Will help me in the long run

making good habits

[lone crater]

also badum weap has two parts so u swap out the moment u see grey number

[abstract sequoia]

two parts?

[lone crater]

well just depends on rot if u do it at all

[lone crater]

have u watched her weap animation fully

[abstract sequoia]

alright

[abstract sequoia]

i think?

air and ground

both are different

but i thought just in animation

[lone crater]

well basically i forgot what the first part looks like but second part she does a big drum atk, and basically u can swap off before that happens

and the link still applies which comes from first part

generally u just tell if u did it or not by whether grey numbers appear

[abstract sequoia]

oh

[junior hound]

Starter supply skip?

[abstract sequoia]

but meter gain is from second part right?

if so, I understand now why ulting too early can cause meter and dmg to not trigger

[junior hound]

And current banners too

[lone crater]

the hitbox can be tricky so for example, for wolf last cycle, u can use vita run to the side of the map then face to the right and effectivey and bring andrius behind you but this position lets u tag the adds and boss together sometimes more consistently

[lone crater]

yes

[sweet flax]

refer to the pulling pin it covers this

[lone crater]

i mean also for ur basic 4a if u are doing that, u can cancel the last animation of that too, which causes u to do less dmg but faster

and then there's the giga sweat ver of ba 2x jump ba 2x

which is very slightly faster than just normal ba 4x

u dont do this on stellar qte tho

at least i don't think u do, cuz i lose dmg if i do it

[junior hound]

Yeah and i did not understand a single word written there

Ill skip everything currently until next banner it's 19 days iirc

[odd pecan]

are those usable somewhere?

[sweet flax]

what exactly makes no sense

[junior hound]

What is fws

[sweet flax]

there's a glossary in pins (fiery wishing star)

[dry python]

Lyo doing allat just for people not to understand

!faq abbr

[small willow]

Abbreviations

Hey there, Captain!

Please see Professor Lyo's Visual Guide for using the Glossary [here](#👶beginner-help message) if you are struggling to use it (applies to both PC and Mobile).

What is RC? What is AW? What is this alien language???

The Glossary of Terms is here to help you, please use it!

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Glossary_of_Terms

How to search:

1. CTRL + F (on mobile, click the three dots icon and search via "Find in Page")
2. Enter abbreviation of choice e.g. "RC"
3. Add a space after (and optionally before) to filter out words e.g. "RC " or " RC "
4. Hit enter
5. Your abbreviation should be found!

[junior hound]

Im thankful, but using all of these shortcuts and dbbreviations doesn't really help us at all for starters, so we pretty much end up asking

[sweet flax]

as someone who used to be a starter, I can definitely tell you they are helpful

unless you want us to keep typing Badum! Fiery Wishing Star instead of fws from now on, which one seems easier?

[junior hound]

Yeah im still a starter so don't expect me to memorize them

[dry python]

Erm

[sweet flax]

it takes time to get used to the terms, but that isnt an excuse to completely ignore it

[quick birch]

getting used to abbreviations and the glossary will help you a lot in the long term, the sooner you get used to it the better

[sweet flax]

you arent expected to memorise them, just to be familiar with the terms

[odd pecan]

can someone answer to this?

[odd plume]

you dont need to remember them, just know where you can check if you forget

[dry python]

We ain’t blaming ya or anything, and you got your answer so all good

[junior hound]

19 days left?

[sweet flax]

no, outdated and irrelevant today
kira is the best choice if you had to choose one

[abstract sequoia]

The one where rice cake swirls around Kiana?

[lone crater]

yea

[abstract sequoia]

or right after that

[abstract sequoia]

will take note of that either way

[lone crater]

rice cake makes like a vertical/90 degree orbit around kiana, like a wheel

[dry python]

Wat

[abstract sequoia]

yea that

[dry python]

Which animation is that

[abstract sequoia]

4th BA

[lone crater]

end of ba4

[dry python]

Oh

[abstract sequoia]

with the light drum noises

[dry python]

I was confused by “vertical”

[lone crater]

well idk wats the term

[abstract sequoia]

its vertical when on the ground i think

since 5th ba there is him ascending out of the ground

[whole bloom]

Is there any playable male character currently?

[amber finch]

if you meant playable as in using them in abyss and ma then no

[whole bloom]

Like a character u can obtained in any way

[amber finch]

.

[odd pecan]

hohe, sushang, pardo are good team?

[coral dew]

have the devs ever given out a free S-rank valkyrie other than Herrscher of origin on the day they released the character?

[amber finch]

replace pardo with kira if she’s ss+ and this is assuming hohe doesnt have her dkey

[odd pecan]

dkey like new weapon that was earlier this version?

[dry python]

yes

[quick birch]

No there isn't, technically there is a lore reason to that and Valkyrie is also mainly associated with female warriors

[lone crater]

spa

[boreal rampart]

They have considered releasing playable males before and it ended up very badly (understatement)

[whole bloom]

😔

But if they release,which character you think it will be?

[boreal rampart]

Like it actually ended up risking the CEO's life. I'm not kidding, look it up

[quick birch]

They won't.

[boreal rampart]

Anyway. I kinda wanna go back from my HI3 hiatus for Sparkle...
I know she's mid but... hsr collab... I want her for collection... What if she never reruns again 😭
Or should I just return next patch?

[quick birch]

She does

Literally this patch

[boreal rampart]

Oh...

I have quite a few fully geared Valkyries tho
I think I should be fine...

[boreal rampart]

So should I come back when Sparkle reruns this patch? Mainly for collection really, since she's a collab character idk if she'll ever come back again...

[odd pecan]

Nocturnal stealth is the best option to take from this box?

[quick birch]

She will come back she is a hoyo char there is no reason that she wouldn't

[amber finch]

she will rerun because they need to

[quick birch]

The only collab char that didn't come back was asuka because of licenses

[boreal rampart]

I see...

[amber finch]

no its not bc she’s a collab character

its just bc of her kit n stuffs

also yeah hoyo literally owns the rights to sparkle

the only reason asuka didnt get a rerun is bc they didnt own her

[quick birch]

Let's take fischl for an example she was in the game since genshin collab and you could obtain her ever since

Because hoyo owns the rights to their own characters

[amber finch]

@quick birch do you know

im not well versed with the new starter manual

[boreal rampart]

Wasn't she an SP valk tho? Sparkle is S rank...

[quick birch]

She is literally getting her first rerun this version she WILL rerun

[sweet flax]

yes

[quick birch]

Yes

[amber finch]

asuka was A rank and they didnt rerun her bc they didnt own the rights to her, again, hoyoverse OWNS the RIGHTS to SPARKLE

[odd pecan]

i was said to take weap for sushang,cuz hohe has better weapon and HoV is dead valk

[sweet flax]

kov sucks, koe got replaced, jk has use for beginners and her weapon helps

[abstract sequoia]

both true

[boreal rampart]

Hmm
Alr I think I understand now

[abstract sequoia]

Sushang is also a dead valk though, just one of the more useful options

[amber finch]

unless they sell the rights to sparkle, we’ll be getting reruns until she’s dead

[lone crater]

didnt even know had 5th ba until i did er kek

[amber finch]

[abstract sequoia]

doesn't ER even have a 6th BA?

[amber finch]

i knew that smh

[abstract sequoia]

like, the uppercut

[sweet flax]

that's not er only

[abstract sequoia]

oh wait, that's just 5th BA again but on ground

[sweet flax]

also that's your final attack if you were on ground when doing it

[abstract sequoia]

yeah I got it now

[lone crater]

idk i just know i keep pressing ba until barfull

[odd pecan]

what are best stigmatas for jade knight?

[abstract sequoia]

you can just do funny 5th BA spam if you wanted while doing Outburst build

[sweet flax]

Use Roald asmunden for now since you have nothing

[abstract sequoia]

Eh is Roald really that good compared to FHM?

I mean only the 3 pcs buffs

[sweet flax]

uhhh probably, though they could be using fhm on another chara

[lone crater]

sometimes u have better off pieces,

[abstract sequoia]

yeah

[lone crater]

and then no better off pieces for others, roald comes in

[odd plume]

for what, what team and their gear?

[abstract sequoia]

for personal dmg on ice tho, roald seems alright

[sweet flax]

in a perfect world a beginner would have jst + turg for pardo and jk

[abstract sequoia]

just remove darwin from manual shop and put in turg instead

[lone crater]

op gear

[lilac reef]

No dudu, what are the alternatives? I was just going to bruteforce with vita till I realised lightning res...

[odd pecan]

i had a thought to make a team with hohe, jk, kira/pardo like it was in in-game guide

[sweet flax]

fws/jds/lp
jds/dsa (assuming lp is s0)/mps

[lone crater]

how bout hotr and hoo do u have em 4/4

[sweet flax]

try with those 2 teams, personally jds dps is more consistent though fws scores higher

[abstract sequoia]

the problem with jds dps is mostly the time to refresh buffs on some valks

[quick birch]

this is a fine team but do not trust in game guides, most of the time they are outdated or just straight up wrong

[lilac reef]

I dont have hotr or hoo

[odd plume]

just slap full ogier or something on her, they do like nothing anyway, you should have something to use already

[lone crater]

ignore me

[sweet flax]

Where are you getting that problem buffs last long enough

[abstract sequoia]

On the HoD 2nd phase that even tanks full outburst combo

[lilac reef]

I have TA, is she good at shieldbreaking or is that bricked?

[lone crater]

what shields, was there a shield i forgot

[lilac reef]

wait nvm thats not a shield

[abstract sequoia]

no shield, just IMG cores

[lilac reef]

the second health bar

[sweet flax]

apply buffs at beginning of phase 2 start and by end you have SO back to reapply auto

[odd pecan]

at same time i don't have prydwen for honkai impact :)))
asking everytime for equip or anything like ok but sometimes it is not

[covert delta]

how do i salvage this for the blue thing for oath of judah

[lilac reef]

Why exactly does dudu do well on this boss?

[lone crater]

she has execute so if u had a pe team u can use with her, but u dont ig

[sweet flax]

those seeds can only be damaged by img units without breaking the shell, you just need to brute force with highest damage

[sweet flax]

img physical dps in a weather suitable for img physical dps

[lone crater]

core dmg + phys

[abstract sequoia]

She does direct dmg on the imaginary core on some moves.

[quick birch]

you wont use p1 units once you enter end game content,instead you will use p2 units and they expect for some very rear cases as supports use weapon + sig gear which is always what you should aim for

[abstract sequoia]

Plus +50% physical buff

so trio is hardnerfed

[lilac reef]

ok yeah thats a huge advantage

[abstract sequoia]

it's the same thing as Deliverance Kevin in MA

[lilac reef]

I had no idea what I was doing on that boss

[lone crater]

just lightning dmg is -50% but yea

[abstract sequoia]

And fire has no dmg advantage

[lone crater]

hotr dps ez

[abstract sequoia]

counter type is only +30% in comparison

[lone crater]

yea, but its not nerf, is it, but yea no advantage

[odd pecan]

i just got hohe and jk from starter manual so idk what to do with them

[abstract sequoia]

so essentially, RS has a free 80% dmg buff just for existing

and direct core access

[lone crater]

type counter is independent multiplier but yea i wonder if wea buffs are indepnedent too

[shadow gyro]

did you get hohe's divine key?

[lilac reef]

I think I'll just run FWS, JDS, LP and sleep. top 6 players have dudu and 11 haven't even tried

[storm cobalt]

Hohe is in Starter manual 👀 huh

[abstract sequoia]

oh, so it's weighted differently from weather buff/debuff?

[shadow gyro]

level rush

[lone crater]

asssuming weather is not then yea
independent multiplier = multiply everything at the end

[odd pecan]

i started last week

so - no

[shadow gyro]

ahh i see

[storm cobalt]

😦 w8 tbh I got paid is it worth ?

[haughty elbow]

its strong

[shadow gyro]

without hohe's divine key, you can't use her in endgame as she needs to to access astra ring
you can use her for early game but use what you alr have

[abstract sequoia]

Should still matter to have the bigger buff fulfilled then with how multiplication works

[haughty elbow]

u might beat some skill issued dudus

[abstract sequoia]

But 2 multipliers beat 1

[shadow gyro]

im not too knowledgeable about paid content but afaik its good

[lilac reef]

Yeah maybe. Ill give it a few decent tries* but this is def a sleep abyss

[haughty elbow]

what the dudus at

[lone crater]

well i have no idea if weather buffs are independent multiplier but the point was, i think hotr/trio prob does better than the other options, possibly, i have no idea but i could try

[storm cobalt]

🕺

[lilac reef]

highest is 858, lowest is 735

[abstract sequoia]

Trio might do fine actually, 1st phase is just actual paper so it's a waste to do outburst on it

[haughty elbow]

lowest 735? so easy

[lilac reef]

still 37hrs left...

[abstract sequoia]

also Mei crippled

[odd pecan]

sad

[haughty elbow]

how mald are u willing to go

[abstract sequoia]

going Aslaug for HoFi dmg should be best on trio

[lilac reef]

If it includes fish skip then Im out

I tried that way too many times and my success rate was in single digits

[haughty elbow]

how about 12 fish skips

[lone crater]

eventually u might need it for something, who knows. might as well learn it for the fun of it

[lilac reef]

[abstract sequoia]

omg bronya-onee chan

[lilac reef]

The thing is I can do one every now and then but consistently is impossible for me

[haughty elbow]

its not patched next patch so u might as well get some practice in

if its too hard u can guarantee it by waiting out qte before doing it instead of spamming

[abstract sequoia]

so wait out qte > CA > switch

[lilac reef]

You're probably right... Well time to mald for a bit

[haughty elbow]

jump after ca

[abstract sequoia]

okay

[lone crater]

jovi had a thing recorded

his inputs

[river heron]

Guys I got this thinfg and idk what to choose help the new gen pls🙏🙏

[abstract sequoia]

oh that's what the thing is for that I saw

[thick bolt]

The game autolocks newly forged stuff. As in the image you need to wait 24h for the countdown to be over before it allows you to salvage

[quick birch]

check pins

[thick bolt]

Check the S rank box pin

[river heron]

okok tysm

[random owl]

how do you get the 8th anniv border/ribbon? is it tru event?

[finite anchor]

ik mini durandal js got her banner last patch but i js came back 2 the game and im saving for her would anyone like have a guest, i do hve kianna so i was planning on using them together but staring at her isnt enough

[lone crater]

sorry what did u want

i don't understand

[quick birch]

iirc you get it through the auto chess event

[quick birch]

Are you asking when dudu is getting a rerun

[finite anchor]

yah

[quick birch]

this version

[lone crater]

after spending

[finite anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/durandal-mini-durandal-dudu-bianka-honkai-gif-13690399369500296645

[quick birch]

although meta wise its not reccomended to pull

but if its for waifu reasons go for it

[finite anchor]

no like i want her bad

[lone crater]

and what did u mean by like anyone have a guest

[quick birch]

i interpreted it as " anyone have a guess"

[finite anchor]

like when does honkai usally do reruns

yah i meant guess my bad sorry

[lone crater]

o that makes sense

[quick birch]

1. rerun the version after they released

[finite anchor]

wait reallly

[lone crater]

and then they disappear for a while

[quick birch]

yes

[lone crater]

until carnival and stuf

[storm cobalt]

Is the in game calender like real ? Does not show dudu on there last I checked 😕

[sweet flax]

Not rly, they usually have 2 reruns before carnival

[abstract sequoia]

finish the auto chess story to get it iirc

[lone crater]

did qua teri had 2

[quick birch]

check the one in #💁gameplay-help pins the one you saw is just for the first 6 weeks ( spending event )

[quick birch]

no

only one in 7.8

[lone crater]

i see

[sweet flax]

wait u right

ok but every other valk is part of that (with sparkle getting 2 reruns back to back being another exception)

[lone crater]

exceptions exist yah, same with songque not rerunning after her patch

[quick birch]

we just dont have a pattern for 2. reruns but the fist has always been in the next version since p2

[sweet flax]

ah wtvr let's just go with they get 2 banners relatively close to their release date

[finite anchor]

soooo im gonna have to wait for her 2 be in the carnival banner it seems

[sweet flax]

who?

[lone crater]

dudu? nah she soon

after this spending

[quick birch]

no she is gettin a rerun this version after kiana banner

[sweet flax]

rs reruns right after kiana leaves

[finite anchor]

oh

[sweet flax]

do you have the crystals for her though

[quick birch]

prob not

[sweet flax]

(im assuming you've already been told this isnt a wise decision from the meta perspective)

[storm cobalt]

:0 is she reign solaris?

[quick birch]

yes

[finite anchor]

ehhh i think i can get enough pulls i litterally hvent done any story since like 5.8 maybe and have alot to catch up on so hopefuly i dont have 2 swipe but anything for a waifu

[sweet flax]

5.8 was what, chapter 30?

ye definitely not enough

how many crystals do you already have

[finite anchor]

yahhh im not 2 interested in the meta, i like physical characters so ive been struggling

[finite anchor]

welllllllll after getting kianna and her weapon i hve like 6k saved up rn