🎮honkai-chat

[native vine]

will get SW dkek next week so thats fine

i got seaweed and LV dkek

all sync 1 ofc

[copper tundra]

Same but I did get SW DKey

[native vine]

will have to skip youyun tho

there goes my nirv this patch

[copper tundra]

I didn't skip her
Just gonna have to get SS a bit later

[native vine]

tho ill still try to lucksack 2 10x on youyun banner

[copper tundra]

[native vine]

prob in next 2 week since 6 week supply

[native vine]

hey thats how i got SS CX just last patch

worth a try

[copper tundra]

Smh

[copper tundra]

I'm 15 away from SS

[native vine]

either way next patch is bricked for me i got like 5 Xtals

[native vine]

next week guaranteed then

[copper tundra]

Kek

[native vine]

cooked

all or nothing now

[fallen zinc]

Oughf

Next pull trust

[gaunt furnace]

Ye I know the feeling my brother

[native vine]

havent gotten this bad since years

if only i had @fair talon's funds to whel....

[native vine]

[tropic stump]

[fallen zinc]

Ram has funds but no materials

[native vine]

man this transition sucks

[native vine]

i have the mats dw

kek

[fallen zinc]

Hoc spawning at the ends of the earth

[native vine]

even if i didn't i have 50k dorm tickets

[native vine]

[fallen zinc]

An equivalent exchange

[native vine]

im literally malding with PAWS kek

[native vine]

no tf its not

he can get t1 nirv

[fallen zinc]

When ever I get a perfect p1 hoc just messes up the whole rotation so mean

[native vine]

i struggle to t3 RL

[fallen zinc]

trust

[native vine]

i do 2 SO with paws so p1 lasts like 20-30s

aight time to mald

[fallen zinc]

And the last phase real hoc takes so long to spwan like im just waiting for it to come out so I can nuke it

[hearty crypt]

lmfao

[native vine]

[waxen comet]

[gaunt furnace]

[native vine]

not wrong, my keyboard is infinitely gonna be abused from apiss and stress tests(for FOCA cards, im desperate help)

3-5 cards still left

everyone has SS2-SSS SW with dkey yet im still somehow t7 ;-;

lets go slacket

[night narwhal]

god daym this is a massive coin sink i dont even know a proper way to get this much of

[harsh cargo]

I would be #6 here since I’m 716 with sparkle

[night narwhal]

ehh? u didnt pull dk?
but where nostalgia?

[harsh cargo]

[night narwhal]

why sparkle lead tho

next boss is hers
not this

[copper tundra]

Cause he doesn't have Youyun

[night narwhal]

that affects sparkle too

[harsh cargo]

I don’t want to +100 this boss and go into sparkle shill in nirv without YY, and other bosses aren’t a good time to promote so if I’m gonna choose sparkle shill to +100 into nirv and take the L afterwards

TLDR retain this boss, +100 next boss go to nirv then take the demote

[night narwhal]

hm idk about u but having a whel sparkle might survive her shill
granted u have full team bis for it
but if u wanna wait for a chen shill thats fine too

[harsh cargo]

It’s more so I would +100 into nirv for sparkle shill if I was certain I would retain

[copper tundra]

He would have to wait for houduo

[night narwhal]

yeah thats a long wait

[harsh cargo]

However the waiting for second SO is terrible I don’t think my sparkle is surviving nirv

[copper tundra]

But he doesn't have HLE either

[night narwhal]

u dont have paws either so u have to take the l somewhere

[harsh cargo]

I get her in 4 patches it’s just a matter of waiting

[harsh cargo]

Yeah I’m gonna take the L on the paws shill and demote

[waxen comet]

kosma and fish next..huh

[night narwhal]

be optimistic smh
if its rl u have to at least cook smth

kosma up to u tho

[primal aurora]

Wait Sparkle weather???? Nah Im fucked

[harsh cargo]

Kosma I’ll go for RL on it, which would be a guranteed +100 into nirv then fish is a instant demote

[harsh cargo]

Sparkle asc = sparkle shill

[night narwhal]

for ascbad supply i fear

[waxen comet]

ima gona take -100 on both..

[night narwhal]

landing right after the boss i wanna retain in nirv, fun

[harsh cargo]

Also because YY shill since sparkle is WS = YY

[primal aurora]

Wait more IMG weather too

https://tenor.com/view/daeth-funi-periflight-dies-from-gif-22212023

[copper tundra]

I have Rita for HoD

[primal aurora]

K whel

[copper tundra]

Gonna have to cope with FDD on next cycle

[night narwhal]

this lineup is ass
idk what to do after kosma

[primal aurora]

Abyss weathers feel so weird and random as to when I last seriously played the game

[waxen comet]

dominance is seele or lv weather?

[primal aurora]

HRB

[waxen comet]

somehow i cant remember

[copper tundra]

PAWS FDD XDC for fishy

[primal aurora]

Dominance is damage bonus for and from summoned entities

Introduced w DW

[copper tundra]

Luna lost her summoned entity with her DKey

[night narwhal]

no i dont mean team i mean what to promo/retain 😭

im glad xdc got stun tho

dudu bad fr

[copper tundra]

Oh

[primal aurora]

Bro I remember DW's weathers they were so cancer if you didn't have her

Aponia and Jizo still burned into the back of my head

[copper tundra]

Mei can cope on Hare's bosses
Well two of them

[primal aurora]

Does XDC not outright replace her

Cause of how old she is

[copper tundra]

Not fully

XDC doesn't have summoned entity

[night narwhal]

do u wanna know who was the next best option for hare's latest abyss?
the hare support
xdc would have ate this up if that relased on her patch

[copper tundra]

Yeah RS

[ripe moat]

Haven't played hi3 in about a year, anything new

[primal aurora]

I was gonna say I finally have an excuse to get DW from Reserve Works

Except I don't have RS

[copper tundra]

Lol

Could use TA

[primal aurora]

How much worse is TA to RS

[night narwhal]

have hare from lucky dorm roll and put her in the bridge

[primal aurora]

Is it a massive gap or is it like CE vs Eden

[night narwhal]

i would assume like sparkle and CN

havent seen any TA team in that regard ever since

[primal aurora]

What's the gap between them

Big?

[night narwhal]

well u dont use CN anymore

[primal aurora]

Ofc

[copper tundra]

CN dead

[primal aurora]

But I mean how much of a difference actually is it

[obsidian hare]

big gap, cn retired

[primal aurora]

Ah

[night narwhal]

mhm

[primal aurora]

Shoulda figured

[night narwhal]

thats what i mean

[copper tundra]

Except for me when I was starting out

[night narwhal]

u used her for beginner stuff or?

do u mean bc sparkle was still new

[copper tundra]

I'll get a pic of one of the first few teams I used when I first broke through

[night narwhal]

alr

[elfin yacht]

what kind of team is this

[copper tundra]

What I used in 8.1

[formal badge]

[inner merlin]

the struggle is real still in third place somehow

[proper plank]

just did sw tutorials

finally she is not pure atk spam anymore

well done hoyo

[waxen comet]

wait.. u just try?

[plain raven]

She's still abysmally boring, but improvement is improvement

[harsh cargo]

What the slack

[waxen comet]

way better than original at least
at this point, i feel like dev gona make more p1 valk DLC since they wont spend alot of time creating a new model

[plain raven]

I'm just tired of them focusing on p1 still. I want actual p2 valks. Not Aops. Not Dkeys. Battlesuits.

By the time we ever get Leylah I think I'd have already quit. It's getting that bad.

[waxen comet]

leylah on next year cny
trust

[meager torrent]

leylah mentioned

[raven glen]

I wonder would we see Sparkxie from honkai star rail

Or new big Durandal

[waxen comet]

i bet its gona be anby from zzz colab

[raven glen]

But brand new part 2 valks would be better

[harsh cargo]

Sparxie bchip skin take it or leave it

[sly swift]

Soon™

||I'm sure FoV will have one too ||

[waxen comet]

||if that kfc come again in dlc, im gona skip her for the 2nd time||

[meager torrent]

they have enough content for at least 3 more annis

♻️

[fallen zinc]

Naralab 9.0 trust

[proper plank]

LMAOOOOO

NOT HAXXOR BUNNYYYYY

My aka literally died I had to finish the last 1hp with sushang

xdddddddddd

[waxen comet]

[proper plank]

terrible team

no way in hell it'll clear stage 2

[night narwhal]

oh lmao

i thought it would be worse

[copper tundra]

[night narwhal]

mald boss stage ❎
mald side stage ✅

[proper plank]

yeah no chance LMFAOOO

[meager torrent]

what the slack

how much score am I missing, 30?

looks like it can be left at one and done

the fuq you doin lyo

[primal aurora]

@proper plank But yea I saw that shit last week and my heart sank

Cause I want both Ely AND TIme Runner so badly

Yet HRB DKey is also coming

And I have crystals to spare for none of them

And idfk what to do anymore 😭

[proper plank]

lmfao

idk if I'll eventually get the 2 kiana ones I'm missing

I hate both

but collection

[primal aurora]

Editing the message counts as an extra ping

The fu

[primal aurora]

ooh which?

[proper plank]

time runner, hofi one

[primal aurora]

Id kill for Time Runner, but idrc for the Trio skins

[proper plank]

oh no.

oh no I just realized something

wait no nvm its fine

I was about to say maybe sw got a dkey despite being so old because she can jump

so I was worried about a hofs dkey

but its not like its a requirement

[sly swift]

Sowhel

[proper plank]

hes not even SSS the fucking f2p

[sly swift]

Free 2 Pay you mean

[proper plank]

wow why is sw damage so inconsistent?

scatter barrier?

[hearty crypt]

Uh-huh

P1 jank

[proper plank]

so nice

ty sw

why is my score so bad when I'm SSS+3

what am I supposed to be getting

[quick panther]

dunno lyolao, it doesnt feel inconsistent to me

ive been getting 825 like 30 times

[proper plank]

I'm scraping for dmg in p1 every time and its always different

and why is she not taking her inputs, is it just me?

I spam wep, she just aura farms standing in the air doing nothing but intimidating ely instead

[quick panther]

im not having any problem with sw

with the home menu instead

[proper plank]

yeah the menu is fucked

how tf are you getting consistent dmg

mine is wildly different every single rot

[quick panther]

dunno, i dont even know how are you getting inconsistent dmg

[proper plank]

maybe seele circle dmg?

[quick panther]

oh yeah that may be

are you doing fdd qte or basics?

[proper plank]

basics

[quick panther]

try with qte, same time since you are capped by surplus anyways

and do horb wa just before the second alarm goes of

and instantly fdd qte

[proper plank]

funny

2pts slower, even less dmg

[drifting mountain]

istg let me get 3 more points

[proper plank]

and why is my hitcount inconsistent

how is this valk so inconsistent

i hate you sw

how am I SSS+3 1721 atk and I feel like she's a rank

I'm having to add shit from the cn ref

with higher d

on eu server

[quick panther]

now imagine ss1 with just 1620 atk xddd

[proper plank]

my cora gotta be way too f2p for this shit

[proper plank]

YEAH AND YOU'RE 1PT BELOW ME?

[quick panther]

[proper plank]

my rot has to be dogshit cuz wtf

[quick panther]

ss1+3 and sss yaoyao

thats why

[proper plank]

oh SSS yy ok

bro wtf

[quick panther]

now look at the other skill

[proper plank]

WTFFFFFFF

[quick panther]

its even worse

[proper plank]

NO WONDER I'M DOING F2P DAMAGE

[quick panther]

why the hell did you think i told you that sss was a must???

[proper plank]

SW ranks actually useless compared to that

[quick panther]

lyolao you gotta listen to me more

[proper plank]

it's not a must

[quick panther]

[sly swift]

SSS buff?

[quick panther]

if you wanna do good, yes

[sly swift]

I am down to 29 before hard pity

[proper plank]

not rlly

800+ is surely myriad t50

unless people are that asleep

the score diff is pretty significant tho

[sly swift]

800 won't do. No way.

[quick panther]

remember that neither eunonia hasnt pulled yet

[quick panther]

tops will be doing 850ish middle 820/30 and low is 800

[proper plank]

826 is myriad t15 rn people gotta be slacking for first weather

[quick panther]

people ARE slacking

[proper plank]

yea

its eu

can't wake up dead people

[sly swift]

Already at #33

[proper plank]

thats rlly funny that sw ranks are essentially worthless tho

[sly swift]

Well. Dunno.

SW ranks are like HoH ranks

[proper plank]

no

hoh ranks actually matter sometimes

[quick panther]

just for the extra 60atk its worth to rank her

[sly swift]

The buffs? Ah.

[quick panther]

each rank is 20 extra atk, from ss0 to sss is 80 extra atk

pretty bonkers

[sly swift]

As song as you have SS2+, you're good.

I'll do the abyss with barely 1680 atk

It's so bad.

[proper plank]

I can't afford SSS YY I guess I'm just shafted

oh wait guarantee soon I'll do that then stop

[sly swift]

The SSS project is on a hold

[quick panther]

shut the hell up

[sly swift]

Bruh

[proper plank]

bro using this and still pretty much beating me because of SSS YY alone

atk worthless too

[quick panther]

yy sss is a monstruosity

[proper plank]

could prob beat me with s2

actual joke

[quick panther]

if i had sss sw and or horb s+3

[proper plank]

U DONT EVEN HAVE HORB +3?

I'm so done

[copper tundra]

Ah yes World Star can summon phantoms and Wheel of Destiny can unleash Resonance Attacks

[quick panther]

i have s+1

[proper plank]

bro

this patch is so fucking garbage

[quick panther]

go look at my team wth

its right there next to you

[proper plank]

I didn't notice the wep

[sly swift]

Enjoy the pain

[proper plank]

[copper tundra]

Seele simp btw

[proper plank]

why did I even spend my bp balls

[hearty crypt]

Even I have Syn2 smh

[proper plank]

I could have had fucking surtr instead

[quick panther]

seele simp, yes, but poor too

[copper tundra]

[formal badge]

Those whels smh

[quick panther]

[proper plank]

where 1700atk noob

[sly swift]

1730 where?

[proper plank]

my affixes are dogshit

[formal badge]

Exactly, not a whel

[copper tundra]

[sly swift]

Devs hate us and don't wanna fix it

[copper tundra]

I need to rank up my SW and HoRb a bit more

[formal badge]

Mine are too, don't have dk synergy to boot
Mine went SSS this week lmao, right time

[onyx owl]

when I play bronya, coralie and ely, and when I do weapon and ult with coralie,I dont get qte with bronya

[sly swift]

There is no room for forgiveness at this point

And some 43-44+ with wrong types and classes

[quick panther]

actual reason why i pulled sss yy

[sly swift]

I burned my asterite like crazy for nothing

[quick panther]

cause if i didnt i would be getting ragdolled

[formal badge]

I absolutely loathed SW gameplay, it was the worst valk ever
This DK did wonders to her, she actually feels good to play now

[quick panther]

she is suffering from a great issue called timestopn't

why so little timestop man

[sly swift]

https://tenor.com/view/magical-taruruuto-kun-taruruuto-taluluto-anime-crying-laughing-gif-27433118

[quick panther]

the charget atks should have timestop

5 points lost each charged man

so harsh

[formal badge]

Farmable valk, that's why

[quick panther]

farmable valk, paid divine key

[formal badge]

What dk isn't paid tho
... I guess Sakura Cross was good at the time, the other farmable ones were just for more atk

[proper plank]

farmable dkeys have always just been atk really

[formal badge]

Oh the times that Starlit Astrologos used that cross on some bosses despite giving zero physical boosts lmao

[onyx owl]

can someone help

[coarse kiln]

fdd or blastmetal?

but sw's qte activates when the teammates qte would have activated, so if you turn coralies off in their skills so it doesnt activate then that would also make sw's not activate if im reading it right

[queen leaf]

Do you have the time fracture on fdd WA active

If it's vbm you prob just need to rotate her before the other support

[onyx owl]

are u kidding me

[queen leaf]

Oh Luna just said that

[onyx owl]

I forgot to disable qte for hle

[coarse kiln]

I think yours was easier to understand though

[onyx owl]

finaly a good score

[topaz warren]

Now get 805

[terse wedge]

how yall even get such high scores

is it that p2w stuff

[obsidian hare]

nope f2p

[terse wedge]

game is lwk hard for me

i have to skip like 2 s tiers and shit

cus my gem farming is bad

i cant make teams to do cycles cus like

i have to skip a lot of chars

[obsidian hare]

it's normal to have to skip a few sometimes

the game gets easier the longer and more consistant you play

[copper tundra]

Me who have low ranked Valks

[onyx owl]

I can tell you, i was at the same point as you

But show us your line up, your valk stats etc

and we will help you

they helped me here a lot

[terse wedge]

that would have to be at a later time sadly

dont got enough space rn to redownload

[copper tundra]

Forking whel

[toxic comet]

[terse spruce]

https://klipy.com/gifs/yisihere-skill-tissue

[harsh cargo]

Game is very cozy and f2p friendly these days patches give like 20k-22k+ crystals

I started this patch at 60k crystals and 10 weapon pulls, now at 13.4k crystals

[terse spruce]

Still not enough to get a battlesuit alone

[harsh cargo]

Yeah thankfully sometimes there's some that scream bait and can be skipped

[terse spruce]

My account screams half of the valk are bait

[terse wedge]

ik i just dont farm gems well thats it

[harsh cargo]

Personally what I do is only do stuff like MA, Abyss, ER, Events 3 days a week and the rest of those four days I use on only logging in do dailys and call it a day

For example Monday Abyss
Wednesday MA and ER and Event
Friday Abyss

[terse wedge]

abyss i just do the difficulty before finality

always use rita cus shes busted

[harsh cargo]

That's ER, ER fun and gives 500 crystals per week so very good

[terse wedge]

whats ma btw

memorial area?

[obsidian hare]

memorial arena

[harsh cargo]

Yes

[terse wedge]

i rarely do it cus i dont have a good variety of valks to say i wanna do it

[harsh cargo]

Memorial arena gives AL/AW and crystals

[harsh cargo]

So long as you clear it doesn't matter how long you take basically

[obsidian hare]

memorial isn't that important but it does give a bit of stuff

[harsh cargo]

I only do one try run and call it a day

[terse wedge]

well it kinda does since there is a time limit

[obsidian hare]

you don't have to get a good score, you just have to clear

[terse wedge]

but yeah i get what ur saying

[harsh cargo]

I mean 5 minutes is more than enough usually unless you have nothing and day one/month one player

And MA does have a easy mode iirc? Is that a thing

[obsidian hare]

buffed mode

[harsh cargo]

Yeah That

[copper tundra]

Next MA cycle is gonna be a bit difficult figuring out teams-

[mossy siren]

[topaz warren]

Ez its just sw team kalpass, ps/paws team sampo, s2 bita 0s ag

[copper tundra]

What Vita

[neon glade]

vita is love, vita is life

[copper tundra]

Vitamid

[neon glade]

vitamax

[copper tundra]

Vitabad

[topaz warren]

Then use some hohe thel team

[neon glade]

vitarad

[copper tundra]

What Flawless Benediction

[topaz warren]

Ewh

Thel sena lamp

Hofs thel kira/pardo

[copper tundra]

Don't get Sena till close to end of patch
Don't have lampmid and that second team would have to have cope stuff

[topaz warren]

Smh u should start crafting p1 stigs, and buying the important wp from exchange/reserve for ma options

[oak schooner]

hle hrb

[copper tundra]

On AG?

[oak schooner]

sike hle needed

[copper tundra]

[oak schooner]

man i forgot what i ran last sampo

ma next week easy for me tho

this patch ma is fun unlike last patch

[oak schooner]

i take that back

sss niangao is an up boss

ma bad

[terse spruce]

MA bad only 40 crys

[copper tundra]

I'm probably gonna do PAWS FDD then whoever for a third on Sampo

[oak schooner]

whel or no

[copper tundra]

No

[terse spruce]

[copper tundra]

Sync 3 and SSS Sera would be whel

[terse spruce]

so im demooted from gold fish to plankton

[oak schooner]

whale or no

[oak schooner]

no ure still a whale

[tawdry dragon]

The whales are communicating

[terse spruce]

me broke not whel

[oak schooner]

no wonder ure here

hi babe

[tawdry dragon]

[copper tundra]

Forking whel with 853

[neon glade]

https://tenor.com/view/whale-hello-there-how-to-speak-irish-its-nice-to-meet-you-hello-there-hello-gif-15571605

[oak schooner]

zyzy have u done ma

[tawdry dragon]

Yes

[oak schooner]

ive not been on na in awhile

[oak schooner]

are u t2 again

oh yea cos someone can 0s clock LOL

our local drunkard

[copper tundra]

Frosty probably will be T1

[neon glade]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/630553822036623370/694751317284880464/07.gif

[terse spruce]

Ded

[neat compass]

is there a silverwing ely realm guide

[copper tundra]

Probably will get one when it's her specific ER

[rancid urchin]

i miss the new years lobby

man

[cinder gazelle]

yes its already updated

[copper tundra]

!faq lyo

[mossy siren]

!faq faq

[delicate sail]

https://tenor.com/view/luna-kindred-eating-yummy-honkai-impact-3rd-lunar-vow-crimson-love-gif-9185385779072123184

[inland cedar]

[copper tundra]

Ik

[mossy siren]

[mossy siren]

i should have done a Luna heavy thoughts

[vestal bluff]

I just realized I'm only missing 6 battlesuits rn

5 if I get HoRb right now

I skipped Agent Rita last patch, but meh

[pliant anchor]

Should i just spin or wait for any other spin ??

[copper tundra]

Save for next patch

[pliant anchor]

which charecter coming for next patch ??

[copper tundra]

Check #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins

[tropic stump]

https://tenor.com/view/kietfei-kiet-fei-punch-mewing-gif-11132105457590895358

do not pull

save

saving for new chara

new lore

[harsh cargo]

Top on bracket is SSS+3 SW and SS YY and two is SS2+1 SW and S YY, is this hands issue?

[copper tundra]

Yes it's skill issue
T1 and T2 should be able to get more than that

[harsh cargo]

Kind of oddly impressive scoring the same despite the diff in investment

Truly shows hands needed

[copper tundra]

They should get close to 860+

[harsh cargo]

Also very slack bracket close to day 2 ending and 8 people in bracket have actually played it

[copper tundra]

I need to check
Been stuck at 635

[harsh cargo]

No SW dkey or low ranked?

[copper tundra]

S2

Also in Nirv which has 561 dist

[harsh cargo]

No frags from spending events or farmed sw ranks from WT?

[copper tundra]

I'm currently farming SW frags from WT
Spending event- didn't grab any since I didn't know she was getting a DKey at the time

[brisk quail]

wtf so low

i've seen S3 SW with 842

[harsh cargo]

Makes sense, I held my spending event tokens and waited as a just in case and was able to use them on SW frags when the dkey info dropped

[copper tundra]

Idk what I can score with S2 SW S3 HoRb S2 FDD S Youyun

[brisk quail]

surely 800+

[harsh cargo]

I should try sparkle FDD sw out of curiosity

[copper tundra]

In Nirvana?

[harsh cargo]

Though vita personal dmg in SO very huge especially since my vita ss3

[brisk quail]

surely

[copper tundra]

Give ref if so

[brisk quail]

oh wait S youyun

[copper tundra]

Yeah

I'm 15 away from SS

[brisk quail]

nvm

[split coral]

https://tenor.com/view/fast-cat-cat-excited-jumping-gif-5054843775616689213

[loud mountain]

I know every single one here is kinda trash but what do i get

[split coral]

#👶beginner-help message

in the future i recommend asking this channel when you have questions cause people will answer faster/better

[loud mountain]

thanks, ill hold off till something arrives

[harsh cargo]

Tried fdd route on sparkle major point drop/loss

[orchid plover]

is this game still worth it as a new player in 2026.

[tropic stump]

well duh

you can easily get into the story without any issues

the gacha is mainly for people who wanna felxx in abyss and elysain realm

you can play the story without ever spending a single dime

[orchid plover]

i see. so after u beat story those two are the main relevant grind day to day?

[rich yacht]

well, you do need to maintain a decent rank in abyss and aim to get all the rewards from er weekly for higher crystal income

[rich yacht]

id say it really depends on your preferences in games

[tropic stump]

plus the events

luckily for part two hoyo made all events accessable afterwards

they are mainly for shits and giggels side events during main story

unlike part 1 events which are two sets of long running side storeis

called the captain verse

and the other i forgo

[waxen comet]

its called yunaverse
since she keep forgoten her abyss

[rich yacht]

it wont happen now that i have ss youyun

[elfin glacier]

can't even do abyss (I don't have her Dkey and I'm not spending for it)

[fair talon]

do PAWS then

[night narwhal]

u dont need horb if thats what u mean
but u need sw dkey for this yeah

[elfin glacier]

eh I'll just sleep it

[fair talon]

at least beat the boss for the rewards

[elfin glacier]

[fair talon]

who knows, you might retain anyway

not uncommon in agony, if i can read this disturbance right

[copper tundra]

[elfin glacier]

agony yeah, but I'm not pulling SW key so

[fair talon]

i didn't say you have to if you don't want to

i said use other BIO valks

as long as you can have someone in the team who keeps applying status effects to HoC

it's a goated team

PAWS and PS are both good alternatives for the transition shield too

since you need hitcounter for that

and in your rank BiS team isn't a must honestly

[hardy patio]

My favorite performance from the HI3rd segment during the Hoyofair concert:

[copper tundra]

Struggling in Nirvana

[fair talon]

I'm struggling to cross-reference my score

[rich yacht]

same but its bc of my skill issue

[copper tundra]

I have S2 SW and S Youyun

[fair talon]

also afraid of dropping down

i need these trophies man

[copper tundra]

Kek

[rich yacht]

well im cooked

[copper tundra]

What the whel

[rich yacht]

[night narwhal]

my bracket is very whel lmao
then u see my myriad performance

[rich yacht]

ill just try bc why not

wish i was in rl tho

[fair talon]

got enough legends in my bracket too

[copper tundra]

I have Zyy, Shira, and Frillyprincess

[fair talon]

aside from the ones i recognize, Dan is also here

he just didn't play yet

[copper tundra]

[fair talon]

[night narwhal]

idk tho i feel like my p2 is lacking somehow
isnt it when u switch to sw she activates SO and has some surplus?
my surplus is empty, i cant figure out if its user error or its just like that

[night narwhal]

s2 sw verses that lmao

[copper tundra]

Yeah I'm not surviving

[fair talon]

wait which aop do you have

[copper tundra]

And next cycle I can only be hopeful to retain in RL

[night narwhal]

ss yy

[fair talon]

okay then that's very weird

maybe you're missing a drain hit?

[copper tundra]

Still 15 away from getting SS

[night narwhal]

hm no idts
as soon as the trans is over i use both supports then sw

[copper tundra]

Don't think that will help much anyways since I have S2 SW

[fair talon]

i hate the barrier either way, stupid thing regens slower if you have itchy trigger fingers

[copper tundra]

[night narwhal]

also the wait at the end

[fair talon]

i mean what do you gain

that's the question

can you 2 SO right now?

[copper tundra]

I can but it's quite late

[fair talon]

ah

[copper tundra]

60 initial ari

[fair talon]

hate to say it, but maybe vita over fdd

more ARI on drain

[copper tundra]

What vita

[night narwhal]

dont have vitalol

[fair talon]

[night narwhal]

did u try other second slots per chance

wont fix the ari problem but might adjust the rot a bit

[fair talon]

you could make 1st SO shorter, leaving you at more ARI after

by slotting the fastest trigger supports

of course, this is a damage sacrifice unfortunately

but maybe enough

[copper tundra]

Would HoRb and FWS be my fastest or?

[fair talon]

fws, hofi. i personally use xdc

xdc is weirdly fast

[copper tundra]

FWS and XDC then

[copper tundra]

No qte

[fair talon]

i would try with just xdc first

[fair talon]

yes no qte

[night narwhal]

yea

[fair talon]

you do opener with her too

[copper tundra]

Oki

[fair talon]

can't leave out fdd though

you need her to keep applying ignite

[copper tundra]

Alright

[fair talon]

@fast granite okay even after chips costing 2% less they're still goated

news also increase their prices soon

[copper tundra]

Gaming consoles still the most it seems like

Oh wait-

[fair talon]

it seems like it, but they're less resource efficient

you end up needing more resources to get the same money

[copper tundra]

More resources = more value?

Since the gold

[fair talon]

correct

[copper tundra]

I see

[fair talon]

the value is based on how many mats you use, with variance

[copper tundra]

Chips right now being a lot despite the low %

[fair talon]

introducing an extra resource spiked the price very nicely

[fair talon]

this and the day after there's two articles buffing them

[copper tundra]

Ah

Guess I'll produce them and stock up

[fair talon]

so my goal right now is make only these

full hyperfocus

not sure if splitting up between different things would be better

[copper tundra]

This event doesn't feel as bad as the 8.4 Ely event

[fair talon]

also, skip strength upgrade

[copper tundra]

A bit late for that

[fair talon]

despite the game telling you to upgrade, it was an easy clear

also i got a potion in the same mine that temporarily boosted strength

pretty far up

it didn't last

[lone widget]

Hopefully tomorrow can level up the research lv.

[fair talon]

oh you've got prospecting already?

[lone widget]

Yes.

[fair talon]

what's it like?

[pulsar jolt]

its just dump of free resources daily

[lone widget]

something like this

[fair talon]

ohh so it is the data core mine

as i expected

[pulsar jolt]

no

[fair talon]

a chance for them to drop?

[pulsar jolt]

there is but they mainly come from that hook minigame

[lone widget]

Reminds me of material expeditions.

[fair talon]

oh yeah ik about the hook minigame, just haven't been at this point yet

where it drops cores

[pulsar jolt]

yeah its not the daily one

but every time you raise your level it unlocks a special one where you can just gather everything without time limit

[fair talon]

ohhh

[pulsar jolt]

and they have some guaranteed data cores too so u dont get stuck

[fair talon]

starting with research lv 5 though right?

[pulsar jolt]

yea

[fair talon]

alright

[fair talon]

that solves my biggest worry

phew

still need to spend them wisely

[pulsar jolt]

every product is the same

[fair talon]

then how is a 20% price up worse than a 6%?

[pulsar jolt]

you need X red ore, Y stone, Z gold and X+Y+Z catalyst to craft, and it sells for X+Y+Z

[fair talon]

thing is, game consoles don't have z yet

that's why they're less valuable

[pulsar jolt]

the value of resources to coins is the same its just you cant utilize your gold if you make them

(the next product in that line btw only uses gold to make)

[fair talon]

okay i didn't know that

i just know game consoles burn me through gravel much quicker than smart home chips

so i end up producing less for more

[pulsar jolt]

well if you need the coins its better to make chip than have like 50k gold just sitting there doing nothing

but if we ignore resource stagnation and the price increases caused by news, every product is worth exactly the same to craft

[fair talon]

the question was just what is better to make money right now, i think the answer is smart home chips

[fair talon]

i just can't get over the fact that game consoles seemingly sell for less despite having a 14% news advantage

[pulsar jolt]

well that cause in your screenshot if u craft all game console you just run out of gravel and still have 50k phlogiston and 50k gold and 100k catalyst sitting there

[fair talon]

yeah

so i need to waste more boosters on gravel

[pulsar jolt]

that shit is worth 100k coins even without any news boost

[fair talon]

okay so you're saying game consoles are still the best basically?

also because of that thing later that needs gold only to craft

[pulsar jolt]

yes but if making game consoles you get stuck and if making smart home chip you can progress to next research level sooner then ofc make chips

cause every level always give huge boost to resource gathering

[fair talon]

mhm

was my plan, if it means resource lv or not then do the inefficient thing that makes you rich

just wasn't aware that getting more money now can be inefficient

i was just thinking with how to use boosters

[pulsar jolt]

well apparently late game in this event you have metric crap tons of phlogiston/gravel/gold anyway and are hard bottlenecked by catalysts

what cn players said

[fair talon]

catalyst is power right?

[pulsar jolt]

maybe research level 5 is already that phase, will see how much stuff you get from that prospecting

[pulsar jolt]

no its the white vials

[fair talon]

oh

well that makes sense

it's used on everything no matter what

[pulsar jolt]

yea but its used 1:1

[fair talon]

and with a way bigger ratio

[waxen comet]

i use all helper on that.. still feel not enough

[fair talon]

also dumped 15 helpers

[pulsar jolt]

mines production is much lower than catalyst production

but idk its hard to gauge cause you get the other materials from daily mining and now prospecting too

then again daily quest give you pile of catalyst too

[fair talon]

mining is rng though

with a bias for phlog?

[pulsar jolt]

i think today my mining gave pretty much perfect ratio to craft those smart home chip

3:2:1 phlog:gravel:gold

[fair talon]

3:2:1:6 if we count catalysts, kinda tried to assign my labor units based on that

[pulsar jolt]

but yea it depends on how much this prospecting gives

atm i just put all my drone on catalyst and gold

since game controller is going up tomorrow for me

it is btw funny apparently those news ticker are personalized

even ppl on same server have different ones

[obtuse glen]

How to get this green shit?

[pulsar jolt]

from mining

[sick talon]

It just unlocked at research lvl 5

[fallen zinc]

Finally at research lv 5

[strange idol]

Chet

What pick

I’ll go with reverie nvm, I like my coins

[lone widget]

Prioritise Ely signet then others.

Catalyst goes brrr

[fair talon]

always Ely when floor 2

or your run is worse off, unless you're LITEing

[strange idol]

very well

[fallen zinc]

Life without LITE is sad

😔

[round quiver]

Okay, I can settle with t2

[topaz warren]

Imagine having to do everything manually

[topaz warren]

Dam what team u used

[round quiver]

Sss onya, bita, dracoralie

[topaz warren]

Ss yy too?

[round quiver]

Ye

[topaz warren]

Why not horb instead of bita

Bita too slow

[round quiver]

Me HoRb is s0

[topaz warren]

Good enough

[fallen zinc]

Addicted to pink tickets and LTE

Theres also a strat w vroyna hle and dragon

[cinder gazelle]

you should have book anyway so dont need ego

[round quiver]

I mean, big onya can live without book, she only need 2 ego anyway

[cinder gazelle]

might as well secure in case you missed the 1 you need

[fair talon]

Also this being said, "Because of You" isn't necessary for non-lite. Pick a flamechaser active instead for that +1 level bonus

unless you absolutely want to make sure you have 3-4 Ely signets

which isn't the case for Silverwing, she functions with 2

Either both astral ring or ar charging is usually the norm for part 2 valks. Her QTE related ely signet is also useful if you want to go for 3 signets, but only has full potential if you go into Aponia 1 enhancements which are QTE related

[round quiver]

Look, big onya can also do 1 ego run, the second one is good to have, so don't necessarily needed because of you to do a none lite run

[fair talon]

oh, which one, the qte one?

[edgy oyster]

[cinder gazelle]

non lite

[round quiver]

The only actually needed one is 银鹰

Which, lemme translate rq

[cinder gazelle]

its silver eagle

[round quiver]

The silver eagle

[round quiver]

Yeah

[fair talon]

silver eagle is only listed as 银 in the rentry guide

i wonder if thats wrong now

[round quiver]

Sorry, me not native english speaker

[fair talon]

yeah it's okay

i just meant the rentry got the chinese wrong

[cinder gazelle]

its just the first char

[fair talon]

yeah

silver

[round quiver]

鹰 actually do mean eagle btw

[cinder gazelle]

back then i only put the first char to make it easier to track

[fair talon]

ah thats why

i thought it was a direct translation thing

[cinder gazelle]

ye

[fair talon]

like how it is ingame when you play with CN text

[cinder gazelle]

it was just to double check

[fair talon]

hopefully there weren't any conflicts

[cinder gazelle]

started to put the full names after they started having blessings with similar names

[round quiver]

Wait... You're the guy who related to ER guide?

[rich yacht]

he made it

[cinder gazelle]

i just translate

[round quiver]

[rich yacht]

[round quiver]

Wanna collab? Me actually do ER for every single valk, and might be able to gib a better idea of how some of the old one work

[cinder gazelle]

i want to just leave it as just translating the cn guide

[round quiver]

Aight

[cinder gazelle]

they dont even do the old valks anymore

[fair talon]

thats the issue though

lack of recent info for old valks

there's so many guides out there where the newest is from the apo 2 meta

[cinder gazelle]

they actually used to do it for every single valk for every version update but it got too much work

for them and also for me

[round quiver]

I mean, yeah

[edgy oyster]

incredible

[fair talon]

would just be nice to somehow future proof this for current ER signets

[edgy oyster]

[fair talon]

like the general signets

since they do not really change anymore

if there's too much work, i'd also be open to help along with pot

[round quiver]

I actually still do that, just don't have the time to make guide anymore

[cinder gazelle]

ye i used to do phase 2 as well but it was 2x the work for basically the same build with 1 signet changed or smth

[round quiver]

Mhm

[rich yacht]

give me that

[cinder gazelle]

if you want to revamp the old builds i can update it once i guess

[round quiver]

Nah, if that gib you extra work while you don't wanna do so, is fine bud

[edgy oyster]

teri_worimine

[cinder gazelle]

all of them are still in the phase where they were last translated

[fair talon]

i'd do it so the guide is still valid even a few patches later. so just listing what type of buffs are benefital instead of what exactly you have to take

[round quiver]

I do have an idea tho, why don't you open the permissions to let me and rammy edit the guide, so you don't have to do it alone?

[fair talon]

idk if rentry works like that

[cinder gazelle]

yea

its just the edit code

there's no version tracking or anything

[round quiver]

Ah

[fair talon]

thats cumbersome

[round quiver]

Well in that case

[cinder gazelle]

ye, best solution is you copy the raw text format then edit it yourself then send me so i can just copy paste in

i can change the legacy section to be like 'updated by ram/potter'

[round quiver]

Sure

[terse spruce]

just steal it

[round quiver]

@fair talon @cinder gazelle should we open up a google doc or smt? So it'll be easier to track?

[fair talon]

google doc with ground rules would be nice

like how each entry should look like

what it includes and what it shouldn't include

[cinder gazelle]

i already have a set format in there should be quite easy to edit from the raw text

[round quiver]

Mhm, and I'll provide a general guide, you can help me with the wording part, since, you know, not a english native

[fair talon]

yeah but it changed slightly from entry to entry i believe

[fast granite]

damn, and woah the price decrease on the daily stuff

[cinder gazelle]

all the entries use the same format now

[fair talon]

also i do want to suggest future-proofing old guide updates

[cinder gazelle]

just copy the latest valk one and edit it

wdym by future proofing

[fair talon]

at least for old valks specifically

[round quiver]

That I can help

[fair talon]

mostly not bound to whatever weather or buffs are relevant right now

[round quiver]

Since, I can basically do every valk in every patch, as long as gear are good enough

[fair talon]

and weapon suggestions should include f2p alternatives, something even a newbie today could pick up

[round quiver]

That wouldn't work for some of the old valk, but I'll try

[fair talon]

not all of them yeah but many just work without signature

[round quiver]

Mhm

[fair talon]

especially stigma, i've had to be more creative due to my account being much younger

never had a chance to pull on a single part 1 weapon banner

so all i got was part 2 and whatever the starter events gave (or foundry if no other options)

[round quiver]

Oh also, maybe gib every valk some tag, like "sommon" "burst" "combo" "charge", so they can know which buff to choose

[cinder gazelle]

if you guys are cooking up so much might as well make a whole new doc

[fair talon]

i know it's a lot, but i dont want to directly replace the rentry either

[pearl garnet]

everyone has SW SS+ and youyun

[fair talon]

i just want to include these things in your format

[round quiver]

Take HoO for example, she often use WA, evade and ult, so can gib her those tag so they'll know how to choose every weather's buff

[topaz warren]

I mean sw is just super old, and theres no valk so ppl pulled youyun

[round quiver]

Meanwhile me pulling noodles and eat them like ramen using chopsticks

[cinder gazelle]

up to you guys just note there is a character limit as well

i've hit it a few times recently

had to clean up some stuff

[round quiver]

[wet fiber]

the only "SW" i have is from another different Honkai Game

[cinder gazelle]

i rly think if you guys want to cook up builds for all old valks it best to set up something new then instead of the huge legacy section i can just link your page

[fair talon]

also sounds good

[fair talon]

we both have been itching to do something like that actually

just lacked a platform

and i guess support from those who already made guides

[round quiver]

I was thinking google doc but, too troublesome to do so

[fair talon]

aside from profs

[cinder gazelle]

i just want mine to be as compact as possible

there's tons of guides out there

[round quiver]

Icic

[fair talon]

a google doc really isn't great on mobile and weak computers, eats ram like crazy

[round quiver]

Yeah, so like I said, too troublesome to do so

[fair talon]

still had that whole idea about making a website, but just for ER the maintenance would be daunting

[round quiver]

Mhm

[cinder gazelle]

yea its tough even the actual guide makers cut it down

[round quiver]

Yeah, can see that

Even 胱忠 have cut the guide down for a lot

[fair talon]

same limitations?

[cinder gazelle]

why is your chars different

what language are you using

月光中心

[round quiver]

Pretty much, miyoshi have quite a bit character limited

[cinder gazelle]

yours is all squished up

[round quiver]

Yeah, also call 胱忠, basically compress four word into two

[cinder gazelle]

[fair talon]

huh

[cinder gazelle]

interesting

[round quiver]

Don't believe me?

[fair talon]

is this like in japanese with katakana and kanji?

[cinder gazelle]

nah i get it

[round quiver]

Wtf

[fair talon]

[cinder gazelle]

[cinder gazelle]

yea i saw

never really looked at the bio

[round quiver]

Anyway

[night narwhal]

oh talking about er?

[round quiver]

Ye

Wanna help?

[night narwhal]

oh how can i help?

[round quiver]

Oh wait, right, forgot you don't rly do ER

[terse spruce]

Moonlight center? What is that?

[round quiver]

Basically a group who make ER guide

[fair talon]

the most popular one in China?

[night narwhal]

oh so figuring and testing stuff in er i take it

[round quiver]

Pretty much

[night narwhal]

can't help with that sadly
especially with my limited gear

[round quiver]

Actually, yeah, you can do so for us if you want, since I don't have cope gear to test it

[fair talon]

thats the thing though, this is about old valks and limited gear choices

[round quiver]

Yep

[night narwhal]

so part 2 gear cope works?

[fair talon]

for example

my vision is making ER accessible in Finality difficulty for every valk and finding out what's necessary

[round quiver]

Pretty much

[night narwhal]

i could try maybe... but at least not rn

[fair talon]

yeah it's not a right now thing

dont worry

just long-term i want something where even newbies stop being afraid of beating ER (as long as laziness isn't the problem)

even with their favorite valks

[round quiver]

That's also the goal when I start doing old valk ER

[cinder gazelle]

my favorite valk is whoever released latest what a coincidence

[round quiver]

[fair talon]

my favorite is still bronya

[night narwhal]

the funny thing is
you know the pinned channel for shallow sequence?
they doing cope gear runs
although i do see some gears that aren't the best for beginners to pick
so i can help with the p2 gear cope part

[fair talon]

specifically HoR

thankfully she isn't hard to play in ER

[round quiver]

So, when will you beat my score

[fair talon]

oh that

well

does waiting for cannon buffs count?

what was your score again?

[fair talon]

ah

i've got close

[round quiver]

Tomorrow will be even faster

[fair talon]

knowing you, yes

[round quiver]

Canon buff, no two phase boss

[round quiver]

[fair talon]

my current best

pretty much done as soon as I got 4/4 willows and dk

[round quiver]

I wonder if I can compress the timer even further

[fair talon]

early game is really the hardest

or my setups were just trash

[round quiver]

Not rly

But benares succ

[fair talon]

i've yet to burst down benares in one ult

if thats even possible

[round quiver]

Is doable

Just annoying

[fair talon]

with or without pardo gamba?

[round quiver]

Without

[fair talon]

oki

hm

so in that case bodhi second?

i think you said this before

like how su > kevin

[round quiver]

Lemme try smt rq

[fair talon]

ugh, i actually need to do abyss first. it's just this stupid deer needing resources

also she knows and is laughing at me silently

[round quiver]

@fair talon

How was your bella fight looks like

[fair talon]

40 secs is one ult?

[oblique raft]

Hitting the move of idk what I am doing but atleast the team looks pretty 😭

[round quiver]

2, hard to pull off 1