#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion
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The first health bar is such a fraud except on HoDomi common bruh

Like the health bar is weak asf except on this boss and Bull too
Sheesh
No way img was fair
It was fair dawg
5.5
How do u even get a 12/12 trio easily? U also need ranks
I have 7S trio atm
Vertical investment for the win
Current boss ass than it was before 
what if you're not old enough to have a fully built trio team
Well there's hofin dkey rn and she's added to dorm next patch and hotruth is log in free, for HoO idk for some reason she was skipped on the dorm thing despite being same patch as hofin
gambling to get a valk from dorm is crazy
And even then highly unlikely to pull hofin from dorm
Answer I do not know
I guess RS? But it's RS and she's just as chopped as cora2 so 
face card declined fr
Real
A skip just like Teri and Lampbad
Real
Only in Luna or QUA
So far I'd consider lamp, teriteri, RS, cora2 easy skips for me
Lamp and cora2 and RS content trio covers
FDD ain't a skip when she's BiS for GoI 
fdd is a staple in almost every team, not a skip
Trio doesnt cover ignite
FDD is not a skip bro
Erm um actually trio has ignite and its enough for litost I even got #1 on my bracket with trio over cora2
litost is fire, not ignite
Needs ignite though
^
4 trauma every 4s iirc
But yeah HoFi's ignite ain't better than FDD's
That's enough for me 
any new info about new HoRb best team?

i HAVE TO main her, i got her on her first banner but without weapon and stigmatas so it is my time to shine 😭
best girl fr
Most I have seen is Vita and HLE
New ely
niceee, i will have full gear on her
okay so i got a good team for my seele:3
thanks for info!!
i wonder if s0 horb will survive in nirv after her dkey
def no bc youll be facing ranked horb users
even in rl when i saw horb she was ranked as well
Probably not s2-SS is like the standard now
if you're super super dedicated to maining her (and understand the risks) then SS sera is also her best asop option
s0 horb should be able to survive
Comes down to bracket luck in the end and also depends on the server ig
Definitely not surviving SEA Nirv with S0
Tbh NA nirvana is probably the hardest to survive because the nirvana population is just decreasing
Yeah true
And iirc Nirv isn't that far off in dist if we compare all gblul servers
NA and EU are very close
I think NA has a bit more though
Why not S sera?
no ari regen and half of her buffs gone, ds is better than s sera
yeah the default asop ari regen

even if she has her built in for WS at S DS is still better
...Sera has 22 ari regen for WS...
If u trigger 5 reso
4.5 for each one..
4.5 (1 trigger)
9 (2 triggers)
18 (4 triggers)
22*.5* if u wanna get technical
SS might not be needed for HoRb
it is needed
that's where basically all of her ARC buffs lie, and HoRb is already saturated in CD
SS is...uhhh initial ARI..? Phys breach for sera herself...and one minute
sera's ARC buffs
Guaranteed sera crit lul
yeah
Very miniscule to me
books of company is needed for HoRb
Sera does 1.5m damage?
that's what you need to be better than ds

at SSS, when her synergy atk crits
on phys weather she can hit like 2M lmao
Ur telling me
22 ari recovery, 18% cdmg and 18% physical dmg taken <<<< 12% tdm and 7% tdt
it's not about the SO buffs
it's about the ARC buffs
18% cdmg vs 12% tdm
18 crit DMG is ARC
HoRb is already showering in CD, they should be ~equal
Ah
if youre in RL S sera would be better since HoRb can 1 SO everything
Then hows 7% tdt better than 22 ari recovery, 18% cdmg and 18% physical dmg taken
but for fights that need 2+ SO DS is better than S sera
I thought 18% crd in general
yeah
Nothing else
thing is
also HoRb is actually the first dkey char with notable team buffs in her ranks
backpulling Sera
HoRb doesnt even get all of seras buffs..
Cuz she cant support WoD
Locked to just an extra 16 initial ari and an extra 5% pdt for SS ranks
2.5 if you're using Badum and HLE
yeah well u shouldnt do that lmao
Not much choice on my part 
oh im stupid i thought it just added to the SO buff woopsies
Cough anyways
U dont have any other ws supports?
vita should still be better
Badum, VBs, and VBm
Sad
damn poor
should, not must
I ain't back pulling Vita when I started in 7.9 
damn newgen
Wait Hows Dreamseeker better for 2 SO ...u need to recover the ari somehow
youre going to be in ARC for a prolonged period of time either way
And sera has 22 ari regen
2 SO ain't even needed for RL 
It's needed for Nirv though
2 SO is needed for RL if the boss has 2 or more phases lol
-# unless ur kasumi
Oh god-
WS revival which means vita meta again

She's still slow 
Vita gives breach so it's okay
Need


Does HoRb have inate ari recovery? Like helia if u end SO early
yeah if you end SO early
Sena Vita FWS vs Sena FWS Waxing in Reso guaymas 
Is there a minimum?
Yeah scaling with how many reso triggers she has left
Also scaling with sync kek
Oh i suppose not
Sync 3 HoRb stronk
1/2/3 for sync 1/2/3 respectively
How many triggers can she have up to?
18
18
....jesus that sync is getting nerfed
Eh idk
Ain't even her ranks 
I don't really see a point in just not triggering any reso triggers in her SO
Though maybe peeps will cook
We'll have to see 
that's like impossible without completely fucking your damage
because her DPS sequence requires her to detonate them lmao
Yeah that's why I don't see a point in doing it
Just immediately ult.. >:D
you can't even do that
Wah
Doesn't that have a cool down?
youd literally just have to sit there and do nothing
And waste an SO ? For what
Why?
DS's SO buffs are worse than sera's
12% tdm and 7% tdt vs 18% CD and however much PDT sera gives in SO
yeah sera is better in SO
DS better for ARC then?
But how is Dreamseeker better for 2 SO
Wouldnt u want SO faster?
The SSS buff ain't much helpful unless the boss is typeless
because youre going to be in ARC for a prolonged period of time either way
and DS would have more damage in ARC
if you have S chenxue shes better than S sera and SS DS
But if u get SO faster
it doesnt rlly matter
u will get SO either way
you still need to regen like 128 ARI
That's a funny assumption when I used SS DS over S Chenxue on PS
I seen more DMG with DS
not sure how
How?
Its 5% pdt in ARC
And
12% pdt in SO
Yeah
12% TDM shouldnt be better than 4% phydmg 5% PDT and 4% TDM
unless PS is overloaded with phybuffs enough to make the TDM better
DS was better for some reason when I tried on Flux Lamp
Dreamseeker made me score higher than Songque (S) on paralyze assaka
Helia² Badum HoH*

was it 2 SO
Use project bunny ez
wait even if it was 2 SO SQ should be better
you must have been doing some crazy shit with SQ for DS to do better
since you only have 1 domain resonance char in that team
songque's SS skill barely matters at all
if you were using PAWS/PS/FWS it wouldn't matter either
S Songque vs SS Dreamseeker*
Skill issue maybe on the Songkek ops part?
it has to be
SS sonkek literally does nothing for paws in 1 SO situations 
songque op should be better in all scenarios
Compared to S Songque that is
ss songque is overrated
Nvm, it was Melee HoC
Songque is overrated
i still think songque is the best asop and the smartest investment decision a player can make
and i will die on this hill
her and 4* kia
Isn't even BiS in her own ring until SSS
no one compares to their generality at all lmao
common misconception
she is
she is BiS at SS
as long as you arent killing in 1 SO (not happening in high ranks or 2+ phase bosses) kiaelf is worse
It was apparently 746 (dreamseeker) vs Songque 72X
(Input any number into X 0-9)
If Ari regen is needed which barely any WS bosses need
that'd just make her BiS at S
But Sparkle needs that sp regen :(
she comes out of the box with it iirc and no she doesnt anyway
? The only improvement from S -> SS is Ari regen
SS is no DMG upgrade
yeah
Its a Songqueop atk increase ackshaully
so she's just BiS at S then lmao
+2! On WA every 15s
I gotten 797 with SS DS on that boss
And most WS cycles used kia > SS sonkek
if you're thinking sera is better that's a figment of the past. WS teams don't have 3 WoD tags anymore
if you're thinking kiaelf is better i already addressed that
you said most WS bosses aren't 2 SO, therefore her regen wouldn't matter there and she'd be BiS at S


Wait but wouldnt kiana be BiS then..
If u kill in 1 SO..then isnt kiana BiS?
The only thing elf's lack is ARI 
Qua pig
Low rank need 2 S0 now
5 off goes hard
Lol
yes
I mean that's literally what I was referring to huh that in most WS cycles kia is BiS unless Songque is SSS
ya if u can kill in 1 So
With rising dist that will slowly shift but at least from our past experience
Doesn't PB need 2-3 Phys in the team?
2 at least
usually that only is with ranks
Can't work with HoRb then
because ranked can kill in 1 SO
i mean itd work
Even S0 could in past WS cycles
Just look at reso vita
well tbf that boss is paper
Then why cant my nyx kill phase 2 :<
because youre using nyx
She kills phase 1 perfectly fine :(
benchmark ice dps btw
benchmark?? what is that even supposed to mean
hoyo trying to convince people that she was supposed to be the new standard for ice dpses
she still needs HB lmao
she marks the bench by sitting on it herself 
??? she is not using pardo
HB, RC, Kira, JK
i fear it doesnt
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||
thats senadina 😭
||Oh. I legit thought that was Ely||

||short hair. sparkle eyes. Flower thing on the off-corner.||
granted, it could also be Seele
no
that is literally sena
~~I think its wendy
~~
It's ||dio||
omg dio meme in 2025
What would be best AO for upcoming Elysia?
Chenxue ofc
guys am i tripping or does ely3 sometimes just
decide to not trigger a mark
like idk from what im seeing in one rot she only triggers the mark 5 times
is that last trigger somewhere hard to spot or sth?
I wonder when we will get info on anniversary collaborations, events, etc...
So far all we got is version bonuses.
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Ely
8.6 ely
I WANTED TO MAKE THE JOKE THO
Mother mothered so hard she pulled a aponia and created a new level of mothering on the motherscale
That ain't our Ely 
Sound is pretty recognizable
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Daughter of...
sounds like True but slightly different
cant wait for 5 hoyo games to out ely on the same patch 
elybad
I just realized this means hi3 and hsr get new Ely and new not Ely around the same time 
Elybad elyflop
Elygood since she's that girl 
hsr ely > hi3 ely 
alive > ely
mrs.elysia
Happy anniversary to because of you
feel madoka vibe from her
oh real
The nostalgia 
amg clicked wrong reply
I remember being at work waiting day by day for because of you to drop, it was such a moment


doesn't match cn one smh

is this right? cuz i don't see this in beta patch notes
i also wanna know the price if it is right
Yea its true i missed it before
Interesting
my useless AL
Give them to me i need to sss my hos
Marisa is bad info source now, I shall rely only on what the constellations in the sky say from now on
Use MemGPT

No way
GET OUT
is chenxue like a must have for upcoming ely team
Not necessarily
It's only if you're retaining Nirv
8.6 Ely, Law of Ascension
Tag: Heavenly Shift, Symbiosis, HSS //j
We will, LV dk trust //cope

Needs WoD as well for HoH HLE CYRN for the triple/quadruple elysia team with ely elf 
Wtf
what's a CRYN 
Cyrene
Thanks to Cyrene releasing we might convert some people to try hi3
It’s time for the attack to convert the honkai under the hi3 flag
I misspelled it as CRYN because of sleepiness 
For some reason this sweet tea brand often makes me sleepy when I drink it 
what's the new price 
nice finally will be able to farm someone except DB lmao

Is ely³ a good ws support?
BiS likely for Sena now
Badum got dumped?
Teri has Sparkle 
Sparkle is Sparkle sure
WS irrelevant anyway, they will shill horb more, WS is just an afterthought
WS is fun
Will there be any way to get HorB or am I cooked
she'll get added to reserve works eventually
Is DS become SSS the next patch?
I think, it was obvious, cus she defeated leylah
Pls, give new outfit with SSS unlock.
Similar to how free outfits in the pass were pre-Full Transformation

otherwise it's just cruel that they went with Ely instead of Dreamseeker
Yeah
maybe next next patch?
next patch is too soon considering story
8.6 Entropy Battlesuit
Wow songque buff
at the rate the story is going only by next July
same feeling. Feel like courtyard will drop in more
Wdym by next July??
In the past we got 2 arcs in one year.
Now we get 1 arc in one year.
So, next July.
I meant DS as a playable Valk in the next next patch maybe

could also be Seele if we go by pattern
I do think that DS and Sena for CNY double Valk is very possible. At least in my head it works. The question would be who is the 8.6 Valk in that case.
double valk release
the last double release had 1 S rank gave for me so
how would it work with saving up
There is also Ajita... But at this point Ajita feels more like an astral op instead of valk
unless you're suggesting that sena is getting a dk
could happen eventually but doubt it
yea not right after horb dk
Not really, we've gotten double Valks for CNY multiple times. Tho they normally gave 1 for free, Rita and Mei HoO for example
cny is after glb anni right?
should at least give more battlesuits to Sena first
cny is glb anni
patch wise
time wise CNY is before
would work only if they go back to the way they released stories in the past.
Current rate doesn't work.
No budget
put less budget and you're likely to have less return
i wish i knew 
gimme moment
Beta ||Can anyone get me a high quality picture of the train stations chart in the new map.||
do we at least know if it's going up or down 😔
all but jk use al
jk uses al + aw
so its cheaper now as you normally get more aw
price
thank you 
I'm still farming my AW valks... no... 
haven't touched story. is there a picture
beta is so lag
i have Vita (S), Badum (S), Sushang (S) and Sparkle (SS) already, who should i use the free tickets on, Vita or Badum 
vita s2 is very useful
:<?
Ss spork 🐳
Is she atp?
Eh, ig cuz HoRb is WS and WoD could get resurrected
yeah
not at home, give me some time
luck was being kind that day, so no whaling for SS spork 
do we know if 9 AW valk fragments would convert to the same amount of witch orbs as the 14 AW valks? 
?
no, at the far end of the map.
thanks
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This makes me wish we got a p2 raven 
Why already SS Kiana TwT
because they're given ss0 valk account for every p2 valks except the new one
holy lmao no way ely S0 does better than SS badum
we have the description for the new kiana costume yet?
why wouldn't she? she's newer
SS badum is 8.1
so?
and her ranks are all heavily investing into her damage
so?
it's literally just surprising
why u pressed
so-
so deez nuts
in yo j's
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Probably getting held back by Song
That and no mobs for damage share
why would JDS hold her back 😭
HLE is better than JDS tf
I mean in comparison to who Ely gets to run, which is ironically Badum herself lol





not a good day to have ss ba dum 🥀
It's fine, this just means I need to invest in sss !

I almost want to say we need more restrictive weathers back. 
But then I remember how I suffered because of no Sushang.
just have S0 ely, easy
I refuse 
That's why you for SS Ely 
SSS
12S
Do we get something on next version?
the version content
check the pin
No like bonuses for 2700days login?
yes, and what about it
10 character and 10 equipment cards.
No additional reward?
I get informed that we get hotr for free
Login box
Also has HoHe for the other option
It’s in the pins
That too
need to have a clue for what 8.6 might give 
I hope 8.6 valk is a it girl to keep hype momentum going

it girl..?
they hope their design is good

8.6 is a true mystery.
I wanna hope it's main story character and not another event timeline character
i hope so too
or someone whos very awaited
i feel bad for apho mei
I would love apho Mei, need her to have partner tag for future p2 Kiana and bronya for herrscher trio 2.0

i hope not 
let's not doom wish the game
It's a collab trust
Gotta exceed expectations
~~its another gi collab and we finally get playable keqing
~~
Crazy
to be real tho is there even a possible suggestion to what hi3 can collab with 
Time for HG2 collab in HI3 

They could always do another HSR collab to try to rack in more moneys just because
Or, yk, ZZZ 
True. HSR collab and they finally give us a new Himeko

ToT 
the amount of part 1 quitters that would come back lmao
might as well lmao
If another hsr collab I’d assume it would be either Acheron, castorice, Cyrene, or firefly
yeah but I can dream
I wanted kafka
Cuz kafka stig
But they had to give us some irrelevant mf like sparkle
get firefly out of here bro🥀
We already have vita who gives a fuck about firefly
Firefly is one of hsr IT girls and is popular 

Firefly literally would be FDD also
i wanted to make a joke about who in hsr can be added in hi3 but ik jackshit about hsr
Surely it's Castorice that is literally FDD
not firefly
Firefly seems like Mech Fire
I really hope we just never have another hsr collab tbh
currently the most wished collab units are cyrene, firefly and phainon believe it or not
nah they'd come up with some reason to make her img or something
Phainon 
firefly existed just to be some "wife" material for the players
Not phainon, no males in my game please, this game is supposed to cater to me 
Phainon would be great but if Mihoyo would finally release a male battlesuit I want mr yang
nice to see kebin expy in here 
We don't get many valks per year now, we can't go wasting releases on hsr garbage
We need more part 2 Valks
Like actual Valks from Part 2 story
also true
they need to milk part 1 characters first
Sparkle getting 1/6 of the annual production power is already sad
Sparkle constantly mothering so it’s okay 
Sushang was a waste of a p2 release as well tbf
ran out of ideas
Metawise I like her but why sushang
I got no defense for that one 
I don't know why peregrine sword either
She came out of nowhere
I like Sushang but really when the focus was on Leylah and Dreamseeker they showed Sushang for 5 seconds and boom she's S rank...
Both
P2 valk = both
all part 2 characters are both
All S ranks are
Ok thank god 
Supports WoS, WoD, and GoI
Welt is better
Good taste
but I dont think he would really count as an HSR collab character since he's from here in the first place lol
time travel
Lol
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Maybe they will release Mr yang as an astral op I mean there was male ds /cope
With da Bronya and HoR's favourite Divine Key
Blade Durandal wasn't female reminder
true so two examples of it
of all things they give that weird blade a little Bianka body

HoR recognition at last

Tesla and Einstein spotted
I hope they become playable or AOP
they need to update their models first
I'd rather they don't update the models after seeing how Cecilia turned a shiny Misteln
D:
Can HLE hit tanks weak spot?
Iirc no
Oof 
no
she has no aim mode i think
it was only 1/9th at the time
Guess I'm still using FDD against fire tank then if it ever comes around during 8.5 or after
no news 

will be 1/5 when HSR collab 2 3 4 happen
So basically she's only using Ult ?
not sure what you mean by only using ult, she does use other button
I mean for her bow
It was just a question
Her weapon skill is like hoh origin form weapon skill. Cant aim.
Okay I see
Help


ew
chat where can i find this atk in the HLE skills list
ult with 7 arrows
probably not 
it's not i checked
anyone know how to get rid of the blurry area? can't click on that part and it takes too much space, i dont remember it being like that 
This update is dogshit and I haven't even got it yet
crazy
Social media apps and bad UI updates. Name a better duo.
i got a custom theme thing this morning
idk where it went
oh hey i have 2 nitro trial things
me and you

T1 score at 3 servers
https://b23.tv/AXEjy98
who are you exactly?
ches is ches, no further explanation is necessary
carv, how come the TL says critical index detonation results in no more critical index points but in the 2nd screenshot it clearly shows 2 more
Show skill CN text and show video of it supposedly failing 
don't have cn text rn i'll go look

sorry it took a while bc i dont have beta
if it no longer has then solid state duration reduced
When event occurs
场上星尘属性敌人被引爆其临界指数时
If condition is fulfilled
若不再拥有临界指数
Then conclusion
则其固相状态持续时间缩短10.0秒

Go tell them to fix 
@willow pumice go fix
what does this term refer to
can't find anything about it in ely's actual skills, this is from her ER signet
Streamer Ely's SO Finisher
I just ctrl+f the skill reveal post 
♪~
The thumbnail 
DPS horbius no longer trash 
i've been waiting for this day 
rare footage of lamp actually being used
Not much point in thinking about BiS in CN beta anyway
And even afterwards idk whether Wyv does the proper sequence on HoFi when proccing resos
Or on Badum
Oh yeah just noticed HoFi doesn't appear on there
Guess we can properly see when glblul beta is out
hfibad
SN feels so random
Lantern had ascension last patch
VBm gets a new outfit + it's used this patch with FDD
I mean lamp fov and cora is fire, is released on 7.x, while sn is phys and released on like 3.x

i mean that's 8.4 yet
hoyo decided to actually play their game and realized that SN kinda sucked in ER

Temporary emblem 
they probably picked the characters, tried them out, got to SN and were like "was it always this bad?" and buffed her
Wod after getting buff 
oh, that makes me wonder- how will Songque's new outfit work with her curtain/ outfit change? 
Oh, it's in the pins, and they did update her screen. Neato! 
i like how the emblem just looks like the sword's packing heat
Sword pointing guns at you
barely updated.
They should've gone full in on the summer photoshoot theme instead of keeping the screen almost the same as the original
smol indie company plz understand 
Here are my times on the homu world event if someone wants to beat them 
oh wait. You maybe can get max store since they doubled daily ticket
19 seconds 
What in the fuck
Wtf why so many shadow star atk
The vid wont load but the audio plays, and theres a lot of shadow stars atk 
probably pc can't load video idk why

gamemode
This makes songque dps look so much fun to play 
Does this wod buff apply to thelema and HoH ely as well? 
prob event exclusive
and it should apply to every wod dps available in that event (hopeful thoughts)
You'd think there'd be more advertisement for anni by now 

I guess I'm still stuck on the old mentality where this game got social media presence

i read that as i was thinking about updating the app lmao
We still haven't fov boss and ignite wolf
i hope they forget about starless rime

If they put down starless rimestar I will simply have to ignore the starless bit
Everyone else will be doing the same tho so it’s fine
PS or PAWS dps if they do 
Though I remember Rimestar having resistances to both Physical and Lightning
yeah is it just me or has calorie had a lot less abyss bosses than most other DPS so far 
i guess she has plenty of use as a support at least 
i may be wrong but i think its the same as fws
FWS had five during her patch dps wise
PS had the least on her release patch 
FDD only has three right now 
hmm. Thought they might post something since all events are done for this patch.
Next week 
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Is 8.5 er floor 15 still forced 30 second or did they finally remove it
Lmao
I like it cause I get a ton of kills and proc Kalpas item a lot 
normal floor
Regular floor now?
Thats nice and all, but it forcibly adds 25 secs to my time
Can just now finally melt the floor and get 2-3 signets in 1 sec 

Yeah I agree with that
It's fun right now cause I get to raise the temperature
God forbid i see the messages early
Discord moment

Does HoRb take Dominance aponia?
Kinda
Hair should still have top score but HoRb can handle
fall gorls
not sure if basic horb team can handle aponia, i only see whale team 
but at the same time, i dont think many hair still exist
so me
@abstract night looks like horb dmg isn't so screwed without p1 gear
mb forgor the header
Since HoRb is in life binder in everything except GoI with AR on
She is in Soul Shaper when leader
No shes in life binder
Soul shaper is support form
ah
Which is still only GoI
mixed it up from the wiki descriptions

Life Binder ain't really dps form mainly
Especially when she supports WS
Lol
Songkek op or JDS?
jds ofc
Ah
songkek op is just a fraud
Yeah sadly she doesn't have Domain Resonance
Pffff
Horbs probably gonna use sera instead of songop
Songkek op gets replaced by 4 Star Kiaelf 

Songkek op only has ele buffs anyways
wouldn't you want project bunny for horb or is bunny just not good
yes so Sera wouldn't flop
bunny is only good with 2+ physical valks
Not terrible though
aha so you would need a phys ws support for horb
Initial ARI will be though
We dont exactly have 2 phys ws support
because you get unconditional physical dmg based on how many phys valks you have
yh makes sense, ty
Nor another Phys Valk with Domain Resonance
All Phys Valks have Heavenly Shift 
Not counting HoRb
Yeah
well it's not like I have bunny anyway. Ty
My side of things DS is better than Chenxue phys buff wise outside of the rings Chenxue can support
Tested this with Flux Lantern
meanwhile LoA
i agree
Lol
Yeah you can
i scored better with DS
Chenxue is better for Badum though than DS
Doesnt she depend on how many battlesuits in the squad have symbiosis?
very close to dreamseekr
yes
but every LoA valk has Symbiosis
so she's worse better for badum paws fdd than say badum sonkek vita
Symbiosis and Omniscient Star
oh
it doesnt count double
She's also RoO
Yes
mhm
Not like you'd use Vita now in LoA though
good riddance
still rank dependent
and thats why hellmaru will always be subpar for me
Thelema dps is a different question though-
Why subpar
Hle will fix s0 bita/no sena
goal is kekvana retain
No Sera in WoD = Demoot
Every Aop rerun next patch 
i actually retained last hellmaru without sera
Damn 
ss hohe
spoilering in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion 
Didn't need to spoil, we're in the CN channel 
My goals for next patch is hle, dkey, and up my chen to ss, if i have leftover funds and need more spend milestone ill try for sera

Mine is 4/4 HLE and DKey
Outfits idk yet, HoRb's is tempting
Oh shit forgot about fws outfit

I'm skipping Aop's I can deal with SSS DS and SS CX
how bad is it
initial ari is locked to SS
so another aop that needs SS..
regen and crit skill at S so thats a plus at least
why didn't i hear about this before
No dmg, only advantage is ari regen 
The only Aop I've seen that doesn't need SS is Teri for LoA 
its like almost every aop wants SS for nirb
pretends surprise
im surprised nobody mentioned it when discouraging beginners
wdym nobody mentioned it
i see it mentioned a lot
everytime aop comes up "wants SS" is there
maybe my mind just went blank
Ss ds vs s sera, sera barely higher buffs, lower buffs even for arc
Actually does Teri even want SS? 

more ari after SO
in nirv
For ele at least, phys got better buffs
Ah
S is just initial ari and the double qte
I see
well, i already talked to asaphie about this and he said elfs were just as bad
Damn her and Chenxue have the same buff with RoO at SS
didn't ss have smth else for roo?
Well similar
but the crystals requirements for gear were ridiculous, so you had less ppl who just had everything
I'm not even gonna bother with my 2 star Kiaelf 
Up it to 3 star next patch 
For what? 
ngl i wanna 3* my kiana but s2 thele...
Is thwre like horb dps gameplay without the outfit
thats it, it's half-assed vita/trio shill imo

oh 😭
but it worked
Weak ASF it looks like
the bait for roo still worked cause all you had before was sonq
roo was bait, loa was broken
if i don't pull much ig ill go for kiana elf frag anyways...
Does trio get %5 or %15
full 15
Sure
wait no
Shouldn't it be 5% since HoFi only?
okay idk, marisa's website says 5% but HoO and HoTr count as her ring partners

probably correct, neither of the two have the support tag
Nor AR
they count as AR with hofi lead
Fair
they have to count or you wouldnt get full ring bonus
Better than Fraud Songkek op
keep in mind, you still get way more ari than kiaelf
True 
36 ari for free on 2 ring boss fight is huge
Seems they did the same for Chenxue but when SO ends in RoO
good thats not a problem for me anymore
both work the same
Yeah
plus chenxue is more initial ari
108 with Vita and FDD leader
and the dmg diff is ridiculous, because she's a true roo support
Idk HoFi
not just bait
Actually 108 FDD
Idk what Vita and HoFi are
either way, to keep it on-topic here
teri probably will fall off a cliff over time now, like sera did before her
goi will take over with ely, ppl will cry for missing a valk (i'm ppl)
her being a world star support hurts me even more
WoD and WS hurts me also 
I saw
but then there's horb who's rare for bringing physical to WS and.. AAAAAAAAAA
Doesn't seem like it
oh thank god
8.6 might get one
But who knows
we know what that would mean if she'd have one
New AR? 

Bronya
yes BRONYA
Oh wait, something like FDD and PAWS?
might set some things aside just for her..
yea
They probably would
the things i'd do-
Haven't seen the twins yet in Part 2
wait for another phone call with teri



