🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[rancid plank]

||New elysia will not get a dkey, she is an astral ring valk without one. HOHE already has one. Miss pink elf is unlikely to get one.||

[main goblet]

since the info is currently available in here, don't worry about spoilering

[wise briar]

NOOOOO

[short knoll]

divine key is only available for 2 or 3 years old valk

not all old valk get it btw

[shrewd socket]

why would they give a dkey to a valk that is just coming out?

[willow pumice]

amg knockoff from the hit game zzz

[wise briar]

Idk

Because yes?

[rancid plank]

Divine Keys are to make an old valkyrie good again. New valkyries are already good

so they dont need it

[umbral spoke]

vampire survivors mentioned ‼️

actually let me not post that

[muted mauve]

[versed garden]

yeah eyes gone

[wise briar]

Its okay its elysia

I sometime forget

[naive briar]

my eyes...

[wise briar]

Sometimes forget that we dont have the same humor

[umbral spoke]

sorry guys

[desert lily]

[naive briar]

It's okay better than carv's light mode

[umbral spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/vampire-vampire-survivors-vampire-survivor-survivor-garlic-gif-24770932

tame alternative

[wise briar]

Ae still dont know the name of ||new ely weap?||

[muted mauve]

Songque outfit description is cute. 2 Tomatoes.

[umbral spoke]

i guess we do but nobody bothered translating yet?

[wise briar]

Oh i saw it in media but its chiese

[desert lily]

Idk if it's much important to know the weapon name for HLE

[wise briar]

Oh nvm

[wise briar]

I wwanna kknow if the namme is cute

[umbral spoke]

its not much info but i see the appeal in knowing the name

[mossy escarp]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1KNabzsEuh/

[shrewd socket]

yea we probably care more about the passives and stuff

[desert lily]

[umbral spoke]

yet horb dk name is translated

[frozen cobalt]

wow senaland

[ember locust]

I wonder when they will explain HLE's passives

[desert lily]

Likely get info from beta

[wise briar]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN GET HOHE FOR FREE?

[rancid plank]

She's free next patch, yep

[desert lily]

HoTr or HoHe

[nova osprey]

I mean all valks become free eventually

[desert lily]

Yeah

[nova osprey]

Except that eva collab valk

[rancid plank]

rip asuka

[desert lily]

Rarest but crap Valkyrie

[muted mauve]

I'm 5 cups of coffee away from starting to decipher the new map text for info.

Also mihoyo brought back outfit posts

[frozen cobalt]

well they did it once

[umbral spoke]

they give out old valks for free too with quests

[desert lily]

[shrewd socket]

or login in this case

unless you consider login a quest

[desert lily]

Wasn't there a free HoHe in 8.0?

[umbral spoke]

7.9

[desert lily]

Ah

Close then

[frozen cobalt]

hoh is actually the only valk which is "meta" in dorm rn

[shrewd socket]

eeh

[rancid plank]

hofi?

[nova osprey]

Hofi is there

[umbral spoke]

you could easily do the missions, but you had to do all events if you skip story

[frozen cobalt]

ah right hofi too

and hotr maybe

[desert lily]

HoTr is needed for Trio

[umbral spoke]

and snazzy cards club was timegated so many last minute procrastinators missed her

[frozen cobalt]

wonder why they didnt put hoo

[wise briar]

Who is better among those two?

[desert lily]

HoO is the one they left out

[wise briar]

In the box

[umbral spoke]

HoO already in reserve i guess

[wise briar]

Also do we know what we can get from the divine key box?

[shrewd socket]

HoTr also

[willow pumice]

Why is the price cut off actually is the amount same as last year? do you know @glass nacelle

[umbral spoke]

okay but you will have 0/4 hotr

[desert lily]

HoHe or HoTr?
Probably don't matter

[rancid plank]

Neither is very good on their own. Hohe is better if you have her dkey, tho

[wise briar]

Yeah it doesnt either way i would still get hoHe

[rancid plank]

whereas hotr needs her full geat and HoO and Hofi and hofi's dkey

[umbral spoke]

honestly, that sounds concerning and sad if i have to tell ppl that 0/4 hotr is bad

[desert lily]

[frozen cobalt]

i would say hoh can be used on more meta team than hotr

[wise briar]

Also do we know what we can get from the divine key box?

[umbral spoke]

can bronya finally win for once

[rancid plank]

yeah Hohe has part 1 ice team cope

[shrewd socket]

but so is non flawless HoHe

[rancid plank]

Star of Eden Anti Entropy + reserve work dkeys

[wise briar]

I hate bronya

[mossy escarp]

valk/stamps

[umbral spoke]

you can cope with her still

[wise briar]

Lemme check what those are..

[rancid plank]

so an atu, fenghuang, abyss flower, 7thunders, twins of eden

[frozen cobalt]

is thelema stamp worth

[umbral spoke]

i mean as cope as key of ego can be

[desert lily]

AF, Utu, 7T, SoE: AE, FHD, and ToE

[shrewd socket]

so you can with HoTr

[wise briar]

So nothing for HoHe yay i mean her dk is fairly new..

[willow pumice]

lol is it a copy of last year again

[umbral spoke]

my point is that HoTr is the only valk where its impossible to get any form of good weapon

unless you count key of reason and crusher bunny

[rancid plank]

Her dkey might rerun in gacha next patch but it's unconfirmed

[wise briar]

Why cant i open this

[rancid plank]

she's definitely not going to be in any dkey box for a while tho

[wise briar]

Like the link

[desert lily]

Idk if it's worth it either to get HoHe DKey

Now anyways

[frozen cobalt]

for the atk

[umbral spoke]

+10 atk, otherwise she's just so bad

maybe if you're new or returning

[rancid plank]

I mean they're an ely simp and she has symbiosis tag and it's still +10 atk, idk, not a terrible pull

[frozen cobalt]

wonder if they will make dkey next year

[umbral spoke]

because then you just want more valks quick

[frozen cobalt]

maybe for fov

[wise briar]

Simp?

[frozen cobalt]

we have run out of herrscher

[rancid plank]

I can only hope. Hua my beloved

[shrewd socket]

@warped socket might consider undo faq sencho?

[wise briar]

I mean

[umbral spoke]

i mean this is what the dk pandering is really about isnt it? try and make it easier for returnees

[wise briar]

Whats the difference between her old weap and her dk

[rancid plank]

I'm saying you clearly love ely. Not that there's anything wrong with that, admittedly, ely is cool

[umbral spoke]

idk, not in cn beta

[shrewd socket]

at least double the dmg

[wise briar]

Other than the astral ring

[frozen cobalt]

old weap is outdated and no astral ring

[desert lily]

Yeah probably since Thelema is in bp

[desert lily]

Next patch anyways

[frozen cobalt]

no astral ring = weak

[wise briar]

OMG I JUST REALISED

THIS PATCH IM GETTING MPE AND NEXT PATCH IM GETTING BOTH OF HER FORMS SO TECHNICALLY I HAVE ALL OF HER FORMS.. JUST NOT SKIN..

[umbral spoke]

old wep doesn't make her fit well into part 2 teams, also every part 2 physical valk has impair in their stigmata effects which overwrites horb's impair

[rancid plank]

Yes, you will then have all the elysias

[desert lily]

Yeah

[desert lily]

Not like we have Phys GoI yet

[wise briar]

And i only played hsr for cyrene

[desert lily]

HoRb will be our first Phys WS

[rancid plank]

So you main remembrance trailblazer

[wise briar]

Nah im still at stupid penacony

[rancid plank]

gl. Well, good news is Hi3 you dont have to be caught up on story to have all the elysias

[shrewd socket]

penacony gudge

[rancid plank]

Is elysia elf available in next patch spending event?

akemi might want that

[wise briar]

What do elf’s do

Elves?

[desert lily]

I'm not gonna play HSR even if I have a better device

[shrewd socket]

MPE is in WT

[wise briar]

Elf elysia

[rancid plank]

no elf, as in p1 astral op

[wise briar]

Not miss pink wlf

[desert lily]

Elyelf is what QT means

[desert lily]

It's her frags

[rancid plank]

Elysia Elf buffs ice teams

[shrewd socket]

there's elf frags so ofc she'll be in

Thel probably has priority tho

[desert lily]

Yeah

[rancid plank]

Yeah from a gameplay perspective obv

but if you're trying to collect all elys then that one is also avail

[desert lily]

Elyelf I believe takes like 150 frags also? Unless I'm incorrect

[umbral spoke]

might get her due to that, also i wont have funds for ely

[wise briar]

Whos thel

[rancid plank]

Thelema

[wise briar]

Idk who that is

[desert lily]

Oof-

[umbral spoke]

i'll be screwed rank-wise though

[rancid plank]

Part 2 unit also available in the spending event

[umbral spoke]

S0 only horb

[warped socket]

THEY GIVING THEL WEAP?!?!

[desert lily]

Same I'm S1

[wise briar]

Anyways can you guys also not open the link in the anniversary 9 rewards?

[desert lily]

BP

[umbral spoke]

maybe they dont matter that much?

wait let me check the ranks

[desert lily]

She's spending and-

[frozen cobalt]

valk

and stamp

[desert lily]

Sencho got cabbaged

[wise briar]

Oh i opened it now

[shrewd socket]

noway

[umbral spoke]

[warped socket]

I sent a gif dude

[desert lily]

Ai Chan didn't like it

[umbral spoke]

why would they give a support valk dps only upgrades

[desert lily]

Thelema is also gonna be in BP which includes her weapon

[umbral spoke]

(yes i know horb was a hybrid but cmon)

[shrewd socket]

sencho heading next patch with SS1 4/4 Thel

[warped socket]

Because thel is a dps

[frozen cobalt]

in part 2 everyone is dps/support

[wise briar]

Yall i wanted to buy level rush solely for HoHe but now im getting her next patch should i not anymore?

[umbral spoke]

im talking about horb

[warped socket]

[frozen cobalt]

horb can do both

even in part 1

[umbral spoke]

okay but how many times did you really do dps

[wise briar]

Sorry to ask here but i cant in other channels

[rancid plank]

probably not

As long as you're willing to be patient

[umbral spoke]

probably only when she just came out, then support only except for like 1 or 2 bosses

[rancid plank]

I wouldn't pay for something I could get for free

and if you just want the crystals then monthly pass is better

[mild owl]

unless you want to spend money for xtals no, if you do level rush is pretty good

[glass nacelle]

~~ eos~~

[wise briar]

I mean.. i was gonna save for the level rush bc i dont even have money

[mild owl]

best option after monthly pass and the starter card bundles

[wise briar]

But okay

[desert lily]

Prepared for them Ice weather's and MA eva malding

[shrewd socket]

can we have eos as a filtered word?

[wise briar]

Starter card? Is that with the green haired crescendo looking weapon girl

[glass nacelle]

[desert lily]

Holy

[wise briar]

What does the online event mean?

[desert lily]

Wait that's with Badum and HLE?

Jesus

[shrewd socket]

it's v2

[desert lily]

True

[glass nacelle]

nvm it's 9s team

[desert lily]

Oh-

[umbral spoke]

web-based game if you mean that

[desert lily]

Makes sense now

[wise briar]

Starter card? Is that with the green haired crescendo looking weapon girl

[glass nacelle]

ask #👶beginner-help

[umbral spoke]

wait, do you still have both forms?

[desert lily]

Life Binder and Soul Shaper?

[umbral spoke]

yea

[glass nacelle]

fixed base on ar

[desert lily]

Yeah

[umbral spoke]

ah

[shrewd socket]

finally

[desert lily]

Life Binder for WS
Soul Shaper for GoI

[shrewd socket]

no more missed form change

[umbral spoke]

oh so its that way

interesting

[desert lily]

Does that mean we don't have to actively change the passive?

[umbral spoke]

yes

because you can't

[desert lily]

[umbral spoke]

idk if i like that

[shrewd socket]

life binder is bridge when

i do like that

[umbral spoke]

is there much to spoil why horb even has these 2 forms?

always wondered

[desert lily]

They only thing I know is one is DPS and one is Support

[umbral spoke]

yea same

[desert lily]

Nothing outside that

[umbral spoke]

and that it's just one Seele

[desert lily]

Yeah

Getting a DKey just empowers that

[muted mauve]

I've got my coffee

[desert lily]

[glass nacelle]

negative SP

[desert lily]

SP debt

[naive briar]

I immediately read the 2nd one as 炒 damn I'm hungry

[glass nacelle]

just eat

[desert lily]

Go eat something

[glass nacelle]

tf

[desert lily]

||Dragon||

[naive briar]

||furry||

[glass nacelle]

||new map looks like history of oxia||

[muted mauve]

Zi4 ... Bo2 Ku4 Guan3

[limber egret]

||There's is a green one too it seems||

[shrewd socket]

||shiny nana||

[limber egret]

I found it. The six shard on Kiana's ult is HoV looking at us at the end of Will of Herrscher animation

[desert lily]

Lots of reminiscing of P1 in her Ult

[shrewd socket]

bombastic side eye

[desert lily]

[shrewd socket]

carv not gonna like that

[desert lily]

Yeah

[muted mauve]

?

[naive briar]

?

[glass nacelle]

New ely sup wod https://b23.tv/oAXbXaN

He said she's terrible

[desert lily]

Both Elybad in WoD as support

[shrewd socket]

nobody taking Thel's place it seems

[muted mauve]

Ok got the text: Zi4 Ran2 Bo2 Ku4 Guan3

[umbral spoke]

good

[desert lily]

[warped socket]

Me taking the weap and ss thel

[desert lily]

[muted mauve]

wait W not K

Museum

It's a Museum Of Natural History

[shrewd socket]

no that's bad

[desert lily]

Ooooo

[shrewd socket]

every new HSS support (excluding Vita) has been bad

[naive briar]

why history

[muted mauve]

It's how I see most 自然博物馆 being translated into english

[umbral spoke]

why bad

[shrewd socket]

.

[short knoll]

but no powercreep = good

[steep axle]

What did horb do to my browser....

[willow pumice]

small ai chan is back

[shrewd socket]

only for those who have Thel already

[steep axle]

Is beta out

[shrewd socket]

yes

[umbral spoke]

cn beta is

[steep axle]

Crazy

I need to beg someone to do ely ely badum gameplay then

[naive briar]

I see :/ No fix rule since it is a name but I think Museum of Nature and Science is more common

[shrewd socket]

S2 Sena or S2 LV?

[umbral spoke]

S2 LV sounds more useful, but where would you use her support buffs nowadays

i only know she exists for vita dps to bruteforce bleed

[lone grove]

still not using that chop of coralie

[shrewd socket]

bleed and lightning tribunal

[umbral spoke]

you have ps and teri for bleed

or did you skip her?

[shrewd socket]

look at me in the eye and tell me PS does good in tribunal

that's what i thought

[umbral spoke]

i said nothing about tribunal, that I agree with

but any other bleed is just PS

or high ranked LV

[abstract night]

Huh

@fervent hinge Bro wtf is this
They legit stole frigid, this is stupid

Its not even winter yet

[warped socket]

They did not

They stole this one

[abstract night]

Oh

[twin dune]

The only outfit nobody has

[abstract night]

[fervent hinge]

its just winter princess premium

[fervent hinge]

that outfit is kraken fossil shit

[abstract night]

Winter princess is the premium once bc basically nobody has it

[twin dune]

The honkai manga showed a price of like 280 dollars?

Kiana honkai manga

[twin dune]

Hey moriso can you convince devs to give out free badum costume

[willow pumice]

[twin dune]

Any info on seele ring?

[fervent hinge]

lethal dose of copium

[twin dune]

[neat yoke]

[fervent hinge]

HoV buff

[twin dune]

WORLD STAR??

rip loa dreams

[fervent hinge]

world star?

dogshit ring

[twin dune]

No HoO frags bricked spending

[fervent hinge]

selim in spending event?

[twin dune]

44800 how much is that in pulls

Less than 200 pulls that s for sure

[shrewd socket]

seligma

[twin dune]

Is it like 150?

[twin dune]

[twin dune]

Lyo doesen t have thelemur?

[short knoll]

160 - 20 free pull from carnival

[fervent hinge]

I have S2...

[twin dune]

I need to somehow pull out 70 pulls out of my ass for that thelema

And she s trash without weapon

[fervent hinge]

[shrewd socket]

so you getting SS?

[fervent hinge]

she's trash now tbf

[fervent hinge]

?

oh

probably not no

she's pretty irrelevant now

[shrewd socket]

i mean im assuming you pulling HoRb dkey bc mur HoV atk

[twin dune]

Plan would be if no hellie pro max use hellie. Hence thelema. But if i somehow cough up 70 more pulls i can get her

[short knoll]

what if thel dkey

[shrewd socket]

not old enough

[twin dune]

We ran out of keys

[fervent hinge]

yeah +3 dkey always my prio

which probably means I'm skipping yet another sd valk

[twin dune]

Just swipe u a streamer u rich

[shrewd socket]

streamer buff

[twin dune]

Didn t u do some streamer magic on coralie banner

[short knoll]

for future

[twin dune]

Hov divine key: makes her summon ring

[fervent hinge]

some cheap bchip packs yeah

[twin dune]

Lyo would go FERAL for hov dkey

[fervent hinge]

because cora and chenchen completely screwed me

[fervent hinge]

honestly atp no

I don't even want a hov dkey anymore

[twin dune]

Even if that makes her meta?

[fervent hinge]

they'll ruin her gameplay

[twin dune]

fair enough

I mean considering hofi s dkey she s pretty much the same

[warped socket]

Imo hov is not made fot today's style of gameplay

Shes cool af, but not the type of valk they are releasing recently

[twin dune]

I like that unlike the other herreschers up to senti she doesen t rely on ult for damage

[shrewd socket]

atp just make new HoV valk

[short knoll]

new sirin

[fervent hinge]

atp just leave her, with every year older she gets and I still clear nirvana with her the funnier it is

on her original gear btw

still BiS after all this time

with a dogshit b piece

[warped socket]

3set compensates i guess

Never really read hov 3 set

[glass nacelle]

Beta updates

[frozen cobalt]

if they can make hov dk they alr made it

before hor got her dk

[dense harness]

wait thelema in both BP and spending what's that

[shrewd socket]

i mean HoRb was the same technically

[dense harness]

also quite the new supply in Dorm

[frozen cobalt]

after thousand year they update dorm

[main goblet]

atp the standard for thele will be s2-ss

[dense harness]

now all 3 p1 valks i miss are in Dorm, maybe one day they'll be in war treasury (VV, Aponia, DW)

[main goblet]

oo

[shrewd socket]

she got asc so probably SS1+

[main goblet]

yeah they will be

[dense harness]

next year tho

[glass nacelle]

*Every anni patch

[main goblet]

for whales, thats an understandable standard for nirv tho

tbf i was thinking rl standard

[dense harness]

supply's only change is HOH stamps to Sena ? Luna's won't be changed ?

[main goblet]

hmm i dont even know if theres a point to get the sena stamps from the supply shop...

[main goblet]

correct

[dense harness]

[glass nacelle]

@willow pumice

[abstract night]

Not even if its WoD?

[willow pumice]

HI3 v8.5 Spending Event Infographic
https://i.imgur.com/R263Hoh.jpeg

[willow pumice]

Im only halfway thru the milestone but so far its basically a copypaste of last one

[prisma tartan]

damn we got almost or more 10k xtlas for free

[glass nacelle]

【【8.5测试服v2】共鸣环...变天了...ss1+3希s0+1爱ss0+3琪红莲530扰动统御月轮914（920+）-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/bss7IJP

[twin dune]

Moriso let s go on a date

[willow pumice]

Where

[shrewd socket]

your house

[young wren]

Dorm supply are getting updated?

[willow pumice]

[willow pumice]

ye

[twin dune]

you pick the place i ll make sure to bring You flowers

[shrewd socket]

it gets updates from time to time

[twin dune]

I wonder if seele with dkey gets any changes to her suport form

[shrewd socket]

elemental buffs probably

[glass nacelle]

Nope

[young wren]

Ahh i see

[shrewd socket]

im happy they just gave up with P1 support

[twin dune]

P1 just that dead tbh

Soon we ll have characters bruteforce p1 weathers the same way elysia bruteforced vill v

[shrewd socket]

it's only nature running its course

a Nice Nature you could say

[twin dune]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-punishing-gray-raven-liv-solaeter-empyrea-gif-27432748

[shrewd socket]

https://tenor.com/view/musume-uma-uma-musume-neicha-nice-gif-18079020741016181188

[twin dune]

How about McDonald's. That i can afford

[willow pumice]

Okey

5 big macs

[twin dune]

https://tenor.com/view/mcdonalds-grand-big-mac-big-mac-fast-food-burger-gif-18132235186741153918

[static lance]

is there any way to get horb in 8.5 or are the noobs out of luck

[twin dune]

Noobs are out of luck

Which tbh is quite surprising considering the past 2 stellar keys gave their users for free

[shrewd socket]

no way yet

[twin dune]

Hofi in spending and elysia free the patch before

[shrewd socket]

HoRb was in 8.1 spending

could reach reserve in 8.6 or 8.7

[twin dune]

Yeah but reserve is paid only which is shit

[shrewd socket]

no?

reserve works is the free one

[twin dune]

Oh yeah i was thinking of sena case

I understand why sena but why make FoV paid...

[gilded shoal]

Another Dominance weather.

[short knoll]

just use p1 horb

[shrewd socket]

p1 horb and flop

[wise briar]

oh HELL NO

I JS REALIZED NEW ELYSIA WAS A PT2 BUT IM IN OT 1 MOST,Y FINE BUT LIKE…

Cuz we trapped to trials..

Wait i got enough time

This is okay

[echo shore]

how is lv STILL in supply shop

[sand falcon]

They dont offer the weapon during the spending event do they?

[feral epoch]

what weapon

[sand falcon]

They have Thelma on Spending so surely there's a way to get her wep

[feral epoch]

buy bp i guess

[nova osprey]

Senas wp is in bp right now, thel wp is in bp next patch

No other way to get it

[sand falcon]

Righty

[lusty path]

does new ely bs need coralie in team

[nova osprey]

Probably yes

[lusty path]

can i replace coralie with anyone...

[nova osprey]

Any with symbiosis tag works

[shrewd socket]

won't be as good tho

[glass nacelle]

3-match event has pvp

[abstract night]

Why would they put thelema in spending event shop of all people tho
Without her weapon shes just complete bleh

[glass nacelle]

They put her wp in bp tho

[abstract night]

Oh yeah

[feral epoch]

https://b23.tv/lkeLhiM

[abstract night]

So they added a summon tag?

Do any pt1 valks get it

[feral epoch]

how to do this ely tech in p1?

[abstract night]

Or previous pt2 valks i uh guess

[scarlet sapphire]

A bunch of P1 valks have summoned entities, but I'm not sure which ones count for that tag

[lavish fox]

who needs a memokeeper when you can do it yourself smh

[glass nacelle]

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[plucky lintel]

Looks like next patch will have dreammeeper fragment

[muted mauve]

really disappointed with Songque Skin SO animation

[muted mauve]

should've followed the summer photoshoot theme

[glass nacelle]

pvp

[shrewd socket]

ppvpp

[plucky lintel]

pppvppp

[shrewd socket]

also new prom chibi

[abstract night]

Does Ely³ replace thelema for HoH?

[prisma tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-k-on-disappoint-disappointed-gif-6051447

[nova osprey]

U would use both probably

[abstract night]

Ely³ has team breach?

[nova osprey]

We dont know

Its either run hohe with new ely and thel, or run hohe with thel sena

U cant replace thel shes too good

[willow pumice]

i read a bit doesnt seem like it

[zinc gorge]

is v2 open?

[nova osprey]

Its been open for a while now

[glass nacelle]

ofc not

[smoky lintel]

still possible tbh

[abstract night]

It could of!

[smoky lintel]

you dont even eva mald if you're missing dmg

[abstract night]

I feel like if Ely³ has shieldbreak and rime, thelema is prob replaced, however if its just rime, then maybe depends on the situation?

[smoky lintel]

we'll have to see

[abstract night]

If u need to kill a shield then go thelema, if you just need rime then go ely³

[abstract night]

Ya

[abstract night]

Okok thx

[glass nacelle]

[prisma tartan]

who is that?

ds?

leylah?

[shrewd socket]

||story or another homu tour?||

[glass nacelle]

story

[muted mauve]

Of course it's part 1

[glass nacelle]

hrb synergy gives ari refund, ult crit dmg and more taken dmg in SO

[nova osprey]

Wadafak, ari refund on sync

[shrewd socket]

[main goblet]

more reasons for whales to get the syns eh

[glass nacelle]

60%/120%/180% ult crit dmg
crazy

[ripe urchin]

whels...

[short knoll]

that's whale problem anyway

normal pleb will be the same with S0+1

[ripe urchin]

true

[nova osprey]

Nah id s2+1, because last spend event had horb stamps

[abstract night]

How much ari refund?

[shrewd socket]

15% i assume?

[smoky lintel]

wtf

how much at sync 3

[cinder cloak]

🐳

[glass nacelle]

15/30/45% more taken dmg in SO
1/2/3 ari is refunded based on the remaining resonance triggers
60%/120%/180% new ult crit dmg

[steep axle]

45

that um prob would get nerfed at v3 or smth but

would be glad if it dont

wait wait skip elysia get horb dkey 3 times

[glass nacelle]

it isn't independent effect tho

and only SO

[steep axle]

hmmmmm

[ivory trout]

How does performance for Double Ely in WoD and GoI?

[nova osprey]

We wait for more data

[steep axle]

anything to not use cora

id rather use vita and never have enough sp

[nova osprey]

Cora probably still bis tho

[steep axle]

shhh

corabad

[ivory trout]

Just bit curious since Akayuki seems don't test double Ely smh

[nova osprey]

Breach kinda hard to beat

[steep axle]

vita

or just bruteforce

[nova osprey]

Bita dont provide enough breach for goi

And shes very slow

[steep axle]

im missing like 10 valks to retain rl anyways

[atomic coral]

and no symbiosis

[nova osprey]

Like very slow because its not loa

[steep axle]

corabad isnt fastest either

[nova osprey]

[steep axle]

i like my badum ely and dudu

[nova osprey]

Bita will be twice as long

Or even 3 times

[steep axle]

sure

anything to beat a3 corapullers

[main goblet]

even though there's hardly beta vids to see but i wonder if the second line is the reason why the few horb vids i saw have horb end SO early

[glass nacelle]

btw new ely can't aim weakness

[main goblet]

🧱

[shrewd socket]

🧱

[steep axle]

does that mean ely ely horb

[glass nacelle]

8M 🤏🏻

[umbral spoke]

wtf a bow user but cant use bow??

[smoky lintel]

need to keep HoHe relevant

[umbral spoke]

[abstract night]

45% DMG TAKEN?

[smoky lintel]

it's not independent so it's just additive

[abstract night]

Oh

[umbral spoke]

I'm thinking whats more worth atp

probably the dk, but skip ely

but if I skip ely I'm scared of her being super strong or something

[smoky lintel]

it's cn anni valk expect her to be super good

[umbral spoke]

fml

so this is how lyo felt

aside straightup hating the character which i dont

i mean the thing is I already have Badum and JDS for SD, only no teri is holding me back

[atomic coral]

lyo disgusted watching badum be in every team

[umbral spoke]

ah

[atomic coral]

every ref has badum

[umbral spoke]

i can imagine the reaction to seeing the skin

[steep axle]

its what i deal with everyday 🙄

guess HoV fans have something in common

[umbral spoke]

more like Kiana haters

[steep axle]

i dont hate badum but

i hate p1 kiana

[umbral spoke]

i get that hate only with pre-flamescion kianas

all of them weird in some way

[short knoll]

so no new tank, sad

[umbral spoke]

either way, idk what I'll do. lacking crystals so i can't have another pulling incident

no way I'll sack both dk and ely

[short knoll]

get dkey or skip all

[umbral spoke]

what

why skip all

[short knoll]

i asume you dont have enough for ely + wp

[umbral spoke]

i mean if i lucksack her maybe

and anni gives more pulls i guess...

[short knoll]

imo new ely seem like normal new valk, nothing wrong with skipping her, cny could have new ring

[umbral spoke]

like I said previously, idk what I'd need her for if I have Badum and JDS. only no teri would hold me back to retain nirvana whenever she would run

only ice element might screw me over

[smoky lintel]

where supports for new ring

[short knoll]

8.6 locked tag
8.7 new ring + dkey that can support it

[glass nacelle]

no more new ring, eos

[umbral spoke]

i think they just don't want to spoiler anymore which valk supports new ring

i mean technically if they drop a new ring, the first valk could already be fully supported by RoO sups

[short knoll]

not fully tho

[umbral spoke]

fully at the moment she releases

[short knoll]

cope support, like using kira to support luna

[umbral spoke]

cope is BiS without competition

[glass nacelle]

ely has quite a few mechanics against sd enemies

[abstract night]

Like what?

Insta get to the exposed state like songque?

[glass nacelle]

yes

[abstract night]

WHAT

[umbral spoke]

i mean was it like spawning candy

[atomic coral]

songque gone

[willow pumice]

Spawn 1 at s rank, iirc ss spawns 2

[umbral spoke]

ah

[abstract night]

And insta kill portion of exposed state like badum?
Or just
Mobbing potential like sena and badum

[glass nacelle]

special critical index => break it to deal more dmg

[ivory trout]

oh yeah, does HoRB still have her Ult bonus after killing enemy?

[willow pumice]

Yknow considering the current story basically skipped p2 area, theres a chance that the 12 ar is a lie

But hey thats just a theory

[umbral spoke]

no eva ring?

[atomic coral]

activated stage select and skipped straight to the end

[abstract night]

Does HoRb got guarranteed crits? Just by herself?
Since sera's crit conversion....is WoD only..

[umbral spoke]

used the zelda 1 recorder

[steep axle]

dont we lowkey need at least 2 valks with ??? before new ring

[atomic coral]

mario 3 warp whistle

[willow pumice]

That means use s coralie for placeholder

[steep axle]

id rather use A one

[umbral spoke]

then do it

[glass nacelle]

and after break the final critical index, sd form (i don't remember name) - 10s

[umbral spoke]

her and Vita

[steep axle]

give me a new ar then sure

[umbral spoke]

boom

[abstract night]

World of Destiny

[umbral spoke]

are you serious...

[glass nacelle]

[abstract night]

Does she got shieldbreak?

[glass nacelle]

no

[steep axle]

shieldbreak?? does that mean du- oh

[abstract night]

Enough rime trauma to replace thelema?

For HoH

[steep axle]

i run HoH vita dudu send help

[umbral spoke]

you'd use all 3

[abstract night]

But no breach

[steep axle]

vita

[umbral spoke]

ice weather doesn't care

[abstract night]

U poor soul

[steep axle]

i shouldnt have quit last summer 😔

[umbral spoke]

dudu in WoD is just sad

[abstract night]

Ely³ better have enough rime :(

[steep axle]

yall should see my skill issue with luna

and sena too

[abstract night]

I can just plop MEI TMB/paga M on vita if needed

[umbral spoke]

does her shadow look good at least

like what does she do

[steep axle]

smth

[umbral spoke]

idk either what eepy teri does

skipped both of them

[shrewd socket]

same

[steep axle]

breath can explain teri

i think dudu did like qte + weapon skill

[umbral spoke]

huh

[short knoll]

i mean vita came with the 2nd support in the same patch

[steep axle]

3nd

[umbral spoke]

and they're doing it again with ely and horb

[shrewd socket]

they probably want to work a bit on existing rings before new one

[steep axle]

what herrscher is there to give dkey to lowkey

[steep axle]

work on what give 5 more LoA supports?

[abstract night]

Sleepy teri is a detonator as a WS support, and a breach applicator for teri teams
I would give more info on WoD teri but I only have HoH as a WoD dps,~~ and sena vita >>> Sena/Vita Teri
In terms of dmg for me~~

Teri gives paralyze trauma aswell... and she has a quantum shield which kills the need to dodge

[steep axle]

my only qua S rank is nyx

[abstract night]

WS dps, shes like every other ws dps

[glass nacelle]

sd trio

[short knoll]

can be anyone, it's stellar key now, we will see key for p2 valk too

[steep axle]

oh right

[shrewd socket]

880 when

[abstract night]

I got all quantum units! Besides vill v!

[umbral spoke]

i mean i know most of that, just not what her shadow looks like in WoD. i know chef twin has her for WoD and i had to help him before but thats about it

[abstract night]

I think its just her qte(?)

[umbral spoke]

hm

[abstract night]

U can probably look at 7.7 Thelema runs with teri

[umbral spoke]

where she just lands on judah?

but mid-air?

[abstract night]

Brb

[main goblet]

oh right its real now

[short knoll]

add songque op, 4 SD team, kinda

[abstract night]

Wow that recorded late

U could probably look in the tutorial :')

[umbral spoke]

oh yea it just disappeared

[umbral spoke]

wait wtf it put the beginning at the end

[abstract night]

Okay well it was 2 seperate scenes

The 1st scene recorded late

[umbral spoke]

ah okay

[abstract night]

Mb

[umbral spoke]

i could barely see it on the ely heart animation, unfortunately

[abstract night]

:')

[umbral spoke]

but oh well ill just follow your advice

[abstract night]

It might be CA

[glass nacelle]

er dmg

[steep axle]

holy potato phone

[main goblet]

actually can't you check tactic class if it offers you a team where she's a wod support?

[abstract night]

Thanks :')

[steep axle]

i was gonna say it was low for er then i saw the score

[umbral spoke]

there is one for alternative rotations i think

[main goblet]

im not ingame rn, but u can look if you wanna

there should be one for rs as well

[abstract night]

Can HoRb with her dkey, support pt1 valks?

[willow pumice]

no

[abstract night]

Aw....

Hope HoRb is a good ws support

[willow pumice]

[abstract night]

Any pt1 valks get the new tag?

[glass nacelle]

how is it different from her base kit

[abstract night]

The only one i can see getting it is hare

[abstract night]

Dominance aponia copium

[glass nacelle]

her base kit can get buff from summon

is it different

[ember locust]

Damn

Funny thing I noticed

SN getting buffed in ER after literally years 💀💀

(Stygian Nynph)

[steep axle]

isnt that like just %70 tmd taken

[willow pumice]

HoRB DLC Translation V2
https://marisaimpact.com/betanews/85horbdlc

[steep axle]

mmm read before sleep

[abstract night]

If only i could see it

[willow pumice]

amazing dlc

[steep axle]

mmmm reading

[glass nacelle]

i thought it's new ult not normal ult

[willow pumice]

doesnt matter you cant use old ult

wait

[steep axle]

rip old horb ult

[willow pumice]

no no you still can

[steep axle]

[willow pumice]

now have to recheck

[glass nacelle]

but you are also right because above you mentioned during SO

[willow pumice]

k it doesnt matter then

[glass nacelle]

new summon dmg unit trust

[gleaming imp]

P2 Snek

[abstract night]

Thanksss

[willow crane]

Whoaaaa the weapon is so pretty! Guess I don’t have to worry about pt 1 4/4 🙏

[steep axle]

p2 hair

or cecilia idk

what happened to cecilia stuff

[willow pumice]

Ye bamboozled

[glass nacelle]

VR in simulation world

[slate merlin]

ds v2

[final locust]

did songque get buffed to also buff phys or is she still pure ele

[smoky lintel]

still ele only, we'll just use serapeum since she has WS ari regen and most of her buffs are from chars having HSS

[desert lily]

[final locust]

thought so but aka using sq in his live so wanted to make sure

i have SS sera so im good

[abstract night]

I have S sera, so im good

[final locust]

how is HoRb looking as a DPS and support so far? good, bad, mid?

[final locust]

[abstract night]

Currently, no more regrets

Cuz BiS with HoRb so

Well currently BiS

Wish they would allow the crit conversion for ws

Atleast u get 28%(?) Cdmg

[desert lily]

Doesn't exist

Idk the max either-

[final locust]

S sera isn't

lmaooo
S sera is worse than DS i believe

[final locust]

but hrb doesn't have HSS so she loses some dmg% from sera

[desert lily]

Considering we're also getting SSS DS too

[final locust]

but iirc sera only gives 2.5% phys dmg per teammate with HSS right?

[final locust]

SSS DS isn't very good

it's more dmg% vs typeless enemies

[abstract night]

Wow

[desert lily]

True

[abstract night]

And 10sp for onfield people!

[final locust]

yeah because that's definitely impactful

[desert lily]

Can also use Chenxue since HoRb has Symbiosis but again who knows what to use for HoRb

[final locust]

😭 if anything it's an atk upgrade for DS as well as a niche damage upgrade

[abstract night]

Isnt that at ss

[final locust]

yes

[abstract night]

SSS DS vs S Sera

[final locust]

sera should be best cuz she has dedicated ARI regen for WS

[final locust]

probably SSS DS but the crit dmg from sera means something here so test yourself when en beta comes

[abstract night]

Well atp its already live

[final locust]

en beta??? no it isn't

[desert lily]

Guess it's either more initial Ari or more DMG for me since I only have DS and Chenxue

[abstract night]

My priority is most definitely
HoRb Dkey -> Ely³ -> ely³ wep

[abstract night]

No i meant like in cn

[steep axle]

cant wait for that weaponless ely

[final locust]

just test it yourself when en beta goes live

[abstract night]

Can still support fine

[steep axle]

ely2 can have key of ego ig

[final locust]

i don't have calcs unless u get a cc who has cn beta to test that for u

[steep axle]

i have KoE on raven it looks so funny

[abstract night]

I do too, i think

[zinc gorge]

aight so uhhhhhhhhhh dominance sk is a thing now

i wanna cry

[desert lily]

HoRb shill

[abstract night]

For 60 pulls and +10~ atk tho? Isnt that bad

Obviously assuming u have HoRb

[zinc gorge]

is it just me or isnt horb's mark dmg looking kinda

sad rn?

[final locust]

because if it was big she would literally be one of the best dps in the game 😭

DPR-wise

she does damage with combo and ult like before, but also with mark

QTE also does beeg dmg

[zinc gorge]

like whats even the point of having reso triggers then

[abstract night]

Is that a bad thing?

[final locust]

i mean they still do ~20M combined

[zinc gorge]

she can just like do normal rot finisher right away

[final locust]

no they just have to balance it

[zinc gorge]

on a mega buffed weather + type counter dealing 220k x 18 isnt great yk

[final locust]

idk what marks ur seeing doing 200k

😭

[zinc gorge]

moriso

the horb showcase at the end

[final locust]

also is marisaimpact down

[zinc gorge]

i think so

[zinc gorge]

like bruv every 🅱️ita tick dmg was higher than a mark

on a weather omega buffing horb

[final locust]

the boss is shielded and hes using sq 😭

[abstract night]

Idts

[zinc gorge]

220k was unshielded 💀

and switching to sera aint gonna buff it by a lot

[final locust]

it's probably an sq thing or a bug, but doesnt matter because it's still ~5M dmg and her damage is elsewhere

[zinc gorge]

maybe up to like 240k?

[zinc gorge]

and thats the problem

[final locust]

why is that a problem

[zinc gorge]

the whole gimmick of ws is "haha mark go boom do beeg dmg"

[final locust]

that's not the gimmick

the gimmick is place mark and explode it to do damage

it doesn't necessarily have to be big damage

[zinc gorge]

if the mark dmg is straight up so negligible even in an omega buffed weather then whats even the point of switching others in and detonating them in the first place

she can literally just

do one rot

finisher

[final locust]

then do that

[zinc gorge]

gets a ton of ari back because of 12 marks

[final locust]

5 million is still great damage

[abstract night]

How much

[zinc gorge]

and one singular last hit combo of hers does twice the dmg and takes 1 basic sequence to reach

yes

[final locust]

okay, so then just don't do her mark explosions

[zinc gorge]

idk 4 per mark i think?

[abstract night]

Jeez

[zinc gorge]

thats literally the whole point of ws

like bruv

[final locust]

okay then do it

[zinc gorge]

imagine sporkle dps but u just never so

what

[final locust]

explode the marks then

[zinc gorge]

but it does shit dmg

why even bother

like whats the point of even giving her an so in the first place then

just make a weapon that mega buffs her usual dmg

[final locust]

so dont do it

[abstract night]

An?

[zinc gorge]

and it'll make zero difference

[final locust]

😭 idk what you want

"i want typical WS gameplay"
"i don't want typical WS gameplay tho"

[zinc gorge]

for her mark dmg to be more significant

who said i dont want typical ws gameplay

its just the whole identity of ws is in the marks

and right now her mark dmg is just

no

[desert lily]

It's still V2

[abstract night]

Seele Teri Vita gotta do dmg right?

[ripe urchin]

what should we buy from the 8.5 spending shop? character card>elf fragments?

[final locust]

so explode them

literally WHAT do u want idgi 😭

[zinc gorge]

[desert lily]

Changes can still be made

[final locust]

she is world star and fits your criteria she just shifts the way world star is traditionally done

[zinc gorge]

[abstract night]

Hows she shift it?

[final locust]

because traditionally the bulk of WS dps's dmg is in their marks but HoRb flips that around

[abstract night]

Howso

[final locust]

and there's nothing really wrong with that

[final locust]

???

[abstract night]

Hows she flip it

[final locust]

because instead of the bulk of her dmg being in marks it's in her rotation during SO and the traditionally low rotation damage is swapped for low mark damage

[abstract night]

Oh

[foggy bridge]

why is badum coralie the strongest support combo for like 7 teams, can we get some variety up in here LMAO

[abstract night]

Corali who

Vbm or fdd

[desert lily]

FDD probably

[vale granite]

FDD ofc

[desert lily]

Breach support is why

[abstract night]

Sh

[ember locust]

OMFG Finally another shieldbreaker

[abstract night]

Isnt it self shieldbreak only

[ember locust]

I know I'm not finished reading yet

[desert lily]

Not like the SK they make for her has a Phys shield

[ember locust]

Ok now holy sh*t

Though she's better as a WoS Support than as a GoI Support maybe

[desert lily]

We'll have to see

[ember locust]

Yeah. On paper it seems like she does a little less on GoI than on WoS

But so far, she looks epic

[ember locust]

💀💀 Already better crit than Songque bruh

[desert lily]

Lol

[abstract night]

Well nobody gives crit in ws

[desert lily]

Lantern

[abstract night]

Oh

[shrewd socket]

nobody has Lantern tho

[ember locust]

Lantern yeah

[abstract night]

Besides lantern

[ember locust]

Not only that, but without Lantern or Sera, Songque's crit is ass

[desert lily]

Not like you'd use Lamp with HoRb since HoRb already has good crit rate

[abstract night]

Youd overcap anyways lol

[desert lily]

Yeah

So likely her BiS is Vita and Badum/HLE
Whomever has better buffs

[ember locust]

Lol OVER 9000 CRIT

[abstract night]

What about teri :^

[desert lily]

Idk

I don't have the slacker

[abstract night]

Oh :(

[ember locust]

Why do I smell like Bita is going to be powercrept

By Ely

[desert lily]

Depends

[abstract night]

Ely³ doesnt have team breach tho

[ember locust]

We got the trads for ?

[abstract night]

The ? For?

[ember locust]

Ely³

[desert lily]

But yeah HLE doesn't seem to have breach

[abstract night]

Trads?

[ember locust]

Lmfao Ely box

[ember locust]

Yes

[abstract night]

Whats that

[ember locust]

Translations oops

[abstract night]

Oh

[ember locust]

My ass used the french abbreviation

💀

[abstract night]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message

Not confirmed but still marisa said it didnt seem like it

[still condor]

dkey is only 55% impair
bricked

[abstract night]

Isnt that all pt2 phys valk tho?

[desert lily]

Yeah

[abstract night]

So in theory
Shes equal

[desert lily]

She's still the first Phys WS dps

[still condor]

shouldve given her 100%

[desert lily]

100% impair

[final locust]

with vita phybreach it's closer to 75%

[shrewd socket]

vita too slow

[muted mauve]

Someone remind me to scan the QR code in the new map once it releases

[gleaming imp]

Btw with the beta out now, how is new ely as a WoD support? How well does she support HoH ely?

And how well does she support Thelema dps and songque dps?

[abstract night]

U have songque?

[still condor]

what do you need songque dps for

[gleaming imp]

Contemplating on picking her up from ascension

[abstract night]

[still condor]

shes not p1

[gleaming imp]

Depends on if I feel like 8.6 would be a valk I think I’ll like

[abstract night]

U wont find out about 8.6 valk in 8.4 tho

[gleaming imp]

I’m like 50/50 will be a big name or a khia

[still condor]

they def wont do another khia, theres already one in 8.5

[gleaming imp]

Mother is not a khia she’s a IT girl if anything

[still condor]

shes an Information Technology girl?

[scarlet sapphire]

With 9 week patches, the 8.6 valk is going to be sandwiched between CN anni valk and CNY valk
That's a prime skip opportunity for a lot of people

[rancid plank]

so probably they'll make her good to make people pull out their wallets

[gleaming imp]

My marketing calcs are leaning torwards a it girl to retain new players from hsr who came for new elysia due to Cyrene so of the available candidates p2 seele would be perfect due to having a hsr counterpart