🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[copper shale]

so you expect to be fully ranked

[muted mauve]

HOW DID I SURVIVE AT 10TH IN A BRACKED FILLED WITH ELLIES

[main goblet]

ohh that's myriad
sorry i didn't translate the pic lmao

[copper shale]

ez its called ded game

[steep axle]

eu abyss core

[smoky lintel]

in EU abyss you would +100

[supple furnace]

ely abyss slack

[rocky gust]

Anyone know the strat for the last level of this event?

[ember locust]

Bruh

[gleaming harbor]

I think I used full quantum team and kebin support for freeze

[muted mauve]

It wasn't EU

[muted mauve]

I recommend running Aponia support as she will slow down the triple Aponia ult.

Running characters like Mobius (for slow link) and characters that can gather and/or have a ton of burst damage does well here.

[steep axle]

oh thats really crazy bracket then

[steady granite]

lantern my beloved

[spiral plank]

is the new sus battlesuit a requirement for new helia?

[still condor]

we dont know yet, but HoH dkey badum and smol dudu also have the new type tag iirc

[unique swallow]

Who can say

[still condor]

so you just need at least 2 of those and you should have a decent team

[unique swallow]

Though I expect her to be good to make up for her lack of versatility since only 2 tags

[still condor]

how good is sushang at loa support btw

[unique swallow]

Decent

[vale granite]

Based on Wyv's tests she's apparently BiS for Dudu
For Badum she's eh

[vale granite]

Unless I'm misremembering shit rn

[unique swallow]

Better when you want your lead to deal more dmg instead of having overall dmg spread out basically

So yes, someone like dudu prefers her

Since dudu is the one with core pierce etc

[main goblet]

no info rn but she's an option for the new ring if you lack any

[unique swallow]

2 people literally answered that already

[still condor]

damn i dont even have dudu

[unique swallow]

It's fine just use her as dps

[still condor]

we got a qua valk that gives her collapse to another valk so when are we getting an img valk that gives her core pierce to another valk

[steep axle]

prob not

sus bait trust

[steep axle]

when did collapse thing happen

[still condor]

sparkle

[steep axle]

oh

i dont have sparkle

can i bring my hsr sparkle to hi3 or smth

[still condor]

[muted mauve]

Granted. Has her HSR kit and still stuck on turn base system- becomes the worst valk in the game.

[steady granite]

how do you translate turns into real time

she gets to attack once and that's it?

reset turn count when boss changes phases?

[abstract night]

[muted mauve]

must let both boss and other teammates attack before doing another action

[steady granite]

that's too easy

[muted mauve]

off field actions do not count

[steady granite]

still too easy

like try playing someone who has little iframes or iron body and you'll quickly notice just how fast bosses actually swap between attacks

the newer they are, the more annoying they are

[muted mauve]

I'm saying that both teammates + boss have to attack before Sparkle.
Not just any attack.
So you need to go to your other 2 teammates before Sparkle is allowed another action.

Would be slow

[steady granite]

nyo?

the teammate part is easier to go around than the boss, so I didn't feel like it's worth discussing

we have very few chars that prefer not to be switched in fast

they made Aponia once and learned their mistake

[rocky gust]

Thks I got the elf box now

[quasi jolt]

Anyone knows what the 8.3 bp unit is going to be

[abstract night]

Hey- she isnt that bad!

Nowadays sure

[steady granite]

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Battle_Pass_(v8.2)

[fervent hinge]

Hoyo posted an image before with what was very obviously LV in bp

[quasi jolt]

I somehow missed that RIP

[fervent hinge]

I just hope knight bps will be enough to get LV 4/4...

New system is gonna be a bit shit if I can't get 4/4 valk

[quasi jolt]

Now to whether SS Sena or Luna....

[abstract night]

Ill check!

[primal quail]

pretty sure 3 knight bp is enough (+2 bonus)

[fervent hinge]

Are the crystallum costs still the same for p1 valks

[quasi jolt]

Yup

[fervent hinge]

32/12/10/10/10

[nova osprey]

gonna be funny when the bp only sells the valk+wp and not stigs

[fervent hinge]

!faq balls

[winter dirge]

Immutable Crystallums

Hey there, Captain!

Crystallums are a Battle Pass Currency that can be exchanged for Valkyries and Equipment in the Reserve Works. Captains who purchase Knight or Paladin BP can access the BP Works for 3 versions.

There are 3 BP tiers offering different amounts of Crystallums as follows:
-# The totals below account for the 2 Crystallums in the Dorm Shop.

• Vanguard (F2P) BP: 5 per patch
• Knight BP: 18 per patch
• Paladin BP: 24 per patch

It is recommended to spend your Crystallums on Divine Keys that you have yet to collect for permanent account-wide ATK bonuses. See the list [here](#👶beginner-help message).

Feel free to ask us for account specific advice - especially if you buy BP!

[abstract night]

8.2 18
8.3 36 (hi lv)
8.4 54
8.5 72
8.6 ( lv is no longer pickable)

[fervent hinge]

Hmmj

[still condor]

im so excited to hoard balls for several years because theres literally nothing i can buy in it

[abstract night]

No problem!

[fervent hinge]

So I need 74 total

[abstract night]

U need 1 paladin

[fervent hinge]

Are u sure she's even still available in 8.6

[abstract night]

3 patches

[primal quail]

i had been under the impression p1 valk = p2 valk cost

[fervent hinge]

Oh wait

[muted mauve]

3 patches is 8.3 to 8.5

[fervent hinge]

I have LV wep

I forgot

I should be good

So I need uhh

[abstract night]

Ohh woopsies

[gleaming imp]

I'm waiting for hotruth stamps

[primal quail]

LV weap but no LV?

[fervent hinge]

62

[abstract night]

Forgot were in 8.2

[still condor]

she had a free multi on gear on release iirc, i got her weapon from that

[fervent hinge]

I have knight this patch

[still condor]

maybe lyo did too

[fervent hinge]

So 18

[primal quail]

missed it

yet another thing am punished for

[fervent hinge]

No pretty sure I did a 10x on a rerun just because I could

[abstract night]

Fixed

[fervent hinge]

thank fucc

Ty bref

[abstract night]

Npnp

[fervent hinge]

I might be getting paladin next patch anyway

Wait is paladin next patch LV frags?

[abstract night]

U really want 4/4 lv?

[quasi jolt]

Yup

[fervent hinge]

Omg

[abstract night]

U get 20 free

...i think?

[quasi jolt]

Yup

[fervent hinge]

I'll probably get pala next patch using my ticket it depends entirely on the frame

I do want SS LV

[abstract night]

Haha
Ur off by 30

[fervent hinge]

I don't even like her I just want the p1 supp option

[abstract night]

With who?
HoO

[fervent hinge]

30 frags? She'll have stamps available no?

[fervent hinge]

Yea and mobius

[abstract night]

Then u need more than 62 right?

[fervent hinge]

And LV still ends up quite useful for MA

[abstract night]

For what boss?

[fervent hinge]

Would the pala not get me there lol

[fervent hinge]

RL

Anything works in RL

[still condor]

someone buy me bp so i can gear my luna thanks

[fervent hinge]

And starless wolf

[abstract night]

Then why cant StFu work

[fervent hinge]

Real valks only pls

[abstract night]

StFu

[still condor]

burst mode in 2025

[abstract night]

U dont even have sci weapon to fully enjoy pt1 lightning :(

[fervent hinge]

I don't like SCI I won't enjoy it using her anyway

[abstract night]

Shes kinda fun

Pt1 sci is

[fervent hinge]

I don't want to see her

I don't want her on my screen

[shrewd socket]

time to stack blocked messages again

[fervent hinge]

The design is that bad

[abstract night]

U pulled sparkle

[fervent hinge]

Yeah sirin buff

[still condor]

for sirin

[fervent hinge]

Besides sparkle's outfit is kinda nice

Good colours

[abstract night]

Sci buffs HoO and mobius

[vale granite]

Yes, and these aren't Sirin

[abstract night]

Mobius is fun.. i think

[still condor]

i thought mobius used HoTr and luna for the sp
idr if terishit has sp regen

[vale granite]

Also, does Teri actually buff Mobi

[abstract night]

She does

[fervent hinge]

I honestly don't understand why you do stuff like this like yes you're allowed to find what I complain about annoying and you can block me if you want like you did last time but please don't start bragging about it here it's not needed

[abstract night]

Wait wat
Why r u using 2 breach

[still condor]

for the sp

luna and HoTr both have quite a bit on them

[fervent hinge]

Mobius sp is crippled

Needs all the sp she can get

[abstract night]

Teri gives 18 sp if u WA then uh do her alarm clock bomb
Only 12 if u just do the bomb

:D

....sooo
33 sp..? From lv and teri to mobius

33/100

Htr has
4/10/18
WA gives 3 sp for every lightning dmg dealer

So at most 6..? If im understanding it correctly

So 10/16/24

[gleaming imp]

Mobius mentioned

[mild bloom]

World star astral ring is pretty much a team burst mode ring
No wonder both p2 quantum valks have WD specialization, as against them you want to deal burst dmg in that time quantum shields are down

[still condor]

i think WoD fits more for a 'burst mode' ring, you dont really swap valks out during their burst modes

aside from HoS

[fervent hinge]

HoS my favourite wheel of destiny valk

[mild bloom]

Ah yes, HoS is op there

[still condor]

[mild bloom]

Just kidding lmao
But as i said, it's a team burst mode, as in "deal the most dmg in the shortest time possible"

[abstract night]

Well theress uhm HoT

[scarlet sapphire]

This would be supported by the fact that the last dkey actually made a burst mode valk into WoD

...actually, is HoH the last burst mode valk period?

[abstract night]

Id consider the last actual burst valk to be Hare....who didnt get the dang tag...its so stupid but uh yeah
unless u count brick

[plucky cradle]

because that's her summon

not Hare herself

yo girl's eeping for her whole ult duration

[gleaming imp]

So eepy teri reheated hares nachos?

[plucky cradle]

both suck

[gleaming imp]

[abstract night]

I mean still...

[plucky cradle]

still what

that's not her so it's not a burst mode

[somber egret]

[still condor]

yeah

[still condor]

doesnt have the burst tag = not a burst valk lmfao

[abstract night]

Let me cope

[gleaming imp]

I hope Hare gets a p2 suit would like a summon entity dps

[steep axle]

Can sushang use the

[still vine]

not unless you want to do no damage

[steep axle]

I feel like it would be good for dudu dps

[gleaming imp]

Who is this for? Senti?

[vale granite]

Could be a 5head strat depending on how many buffs Sushang's weap has
With how Dudu works you wanna keep the main healthbar so that the core gets double the damage

[vale granite]

Nah, it's an event weap iirc, and it's not for a particular valk

[full iris]

there was a strat using that weapon on TA iirc

for PE dps against HoD

[little ledge]

iirc FFD was a FGOtto thing, to use on any PE-team support (first it was SI HS, then it was TA HRB afaik)

[gleaming imp]

I completely forgot about ta

[steep tide]

Do we have new astral op ?

[slim lion]

Not announced

[glass nacelle]

[willow pumice]

ghost coralie

[unique swallow]

[novel elbow]

[still vine]

[gleaming imp]

What is this? who’s boss

[still vine]

i think it's astral ring weather and i see SD enemies so i'm guessing it's for but who knows

[supple furnace]

Looks like smol dudu

[novel elbow]

is physical assaka a psy boss

he should also have a shield

[short knoll]

seem like phys weather with SD support

[still vine]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

where do you see phys weather

[short knoll]

could be shusang boos

shusang vita badum or something like that

[willow pumice]

Ye gotta be sus weather

[supple furnace]

[desert lily]

Plain stellar weather huh

[fervent hinge]

[naive briar]

[glass nacelle]

finally sushang can use this skill

[novel elbow]

omg my crit dmg affixes were useful

[glass nacelle]

I heard that songque has bug that can skip fish animation

idk dudu can top score

[novel elbow]

propaganda is working nice

[feral epoch]

so late

hopefully they fix it soon

[glass nacelle]

boss shield is paper

no need dudu here

[somber egret]

[twin dune]

I wonder how much i can get from events too

[main goblet]

can add 1-3 pulls
and any freebies like the 5 wp supply card in this version

[glass nacelle]

badum bad delete her pls

[twin dune]

So theoretically i can afford new helia and hopefully weapon too

[iron sentinel]

No she's not

[vale granite]

I wanted to make a pun with "bad" and "Badum" but I realized it's alr there

[fervent hinge]

Badbad

[novel elbow]

op

[fervent hinge]

Bad dumb

Dumb valk

[steep axle]

Yes its the PE senti weapon

If i ever get sushang i will give her it

[fervent hinge]

[vale granite]

An actually good take from Lyo related to a Kiana ainnoway

[glass nacelle]

[mossy escarp]

Vita bad real

[feral epoch]

nice

[glass nacelle]

nice angle

[feral epoch]

[glass nacelle]

where trio

[feral epoch]

trio better?

[glass nacelle]

idk but we use trio in last assaka

[vale granite]

Well, it was before LoA came out iirc, no?

[steep axle]

isnt assaka HoV boss

[copper shale]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1A2Lyz9EJv/
no idea what d but s2+3 maybe using songque or kia elf could compensate

3s hoo and hotr tho lol

[steep axle]

it feels like that one guy on yt gaslighting me to use trio

[copper shale]

well if ur group slack then maybe retain

man all i see is sushang

[steep axle]

i retained a3 today

i got 9th place

i hate bleed

[copper shale]

r u cn

[glass nacelle]

you are living in 2021

[plucky cradle]

kurowhel in 2021

[glass nacelle]

denwhel in 2031

btw what's bot

[steep axle]

maybe

[little ledge]

dumdum

[abstract night]

I love lolipops

[supple furnace]

[rotund ravine]

just curious, how would you guys rate dudu/badum/sushang in terms of who had better pull value?

[main goblet]

honestly they'll are great in their own way but ill pick badum because of her being in spending patch

[steep axle]

dudubait susbait tuna good

[steep axle]

is sushang good at sp recovery

i know vita is good at it but she doesnt have ???

[steady granite]

kentucky fried chicken

[main goblet]

wtf is this lineup

[feral epoch]

sleep

[muted mauve]

Mihoyo. We don't have that many good WoD valks for you to run HoH - Lantern bosses

[main goblet]

its thelema impact
if only she can split into 2

[abstract night]

So would it be...
HoH Vita/Sena Thelema
Lantern Sena/Vita Songque/Dudu/Teri

Feel like im forgeting someone.

Oh

[main goblet]

the only gimmick about mobius boss is fire and hitcount right?
I'll just use badum + ps

badum lead bc mech

what suggestions is there for kallen tho

[gleaming imp]

Just use trio

[still condor]

shes also got that dodge thing where if you dodge like idk 5 attacks or something she takes a big chunk of damage

[main goblet]

ohh noted!

[main goblet]

0/4 hoo and no hotr

meh fws + ps should be fine, i just want the crystal rewards anyways

[eternal inlet]

whoever asked to rerun this event i wish they have both of the sides of the pillow hot asf

i still wait the rerun of that one arahato event dayum

[muted mauve]

Day 15th. 1/3rd of the way.
Failed to login today

[terse ravine]

Oh God, it's still ongoing? Stay strong

[final locust]

yeah what is this

[still vine]

fire the interns please, what absolute negative IQ clown keeps doing this shit

[muted mauve]

it ended after daily reset

[glass nacelle]

break shield = no res

[still vine]

so why call it physical weather if it's secretly shieldbreak weather

[glass nacelle]

u need to break = phys dmg

[glass nacelle]

ppl just cook with loa team
or use luna in heph

[still vine]

[terse ravine]

Big oof, but at least it ended 🫂

[muted mauve]

Hmm. Sushang is top score.

[still vine]

https://www.reddit.com/r/houkai3rd/comments/1ka04il/hi3_investment_guide_by_moon_light_communication/

sirin over luna

[muted mauve]

It's the second time that I'm doing this Abyss stage today

[gleaming imp]

how?

They both got a p2 buff with simp and sparkle respectively what's the difference?

[somber egret]

Sirin is free

[crude goblet]

[kind atlas]

there's no p2 Ignite while there's already p2 bleed dps

and The Helia is definitely not ignite-related

[still vine]

how do you know that

[somber egret]

Surely she's Lightning Ignite

[kind atlas]

maybe the process of elimination

new sus just came out so can't be phys
ice is whatever at this point

So either lightning or Fire

[still vine]

well we know she's lightning but that's about it

[kind atlas]

kinda weird that we have abyss weather for Stun/Ignite/Bleed/paralyze

but not frozen

Thelema stonks

[terse ravine]

Frozen heph bot?

[kind atlas]

I mean as in literal abyss weather

not just stage mechanic

[terse ravine]

It's an abyss weather.

[kind atlas]

iirc heph bot weather is ranged

[terse ravine]

Before Ranged it was Freezing.

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1LWL2z7EtW

tf 💀

[oak yarrow]

fuck its over for fish skip

[gleaming imp]

Songque bad now?

[vale granite]

No, she'll finally be balanced

[slim lion]

Fish skip no more?

[smoky lintel]

probably soon

[steep axle]

I love this recommended team

[gaunt ivy]

Oml breh

That is something

[still condor]

sure okay, i can maybe understand p1 songque ig if you dont have other p2 valks
but why is seele on bleed support

[steep axle]

Who is the dps here

[still condor]

songque obviously

[steep axle]

Doesnt she need ar tho

[still condor]

yeah, but shes still the dps in a p1 team

aids isnt doing more than her and seele is using bleed support stigs for some reason

[steep axle]

Its either prom or seele and both are not good 💀

[still condor]

songque is the dps

[nova osprey]

She has some benefits when not in a p2 team, like u can combo 3 times instead of ince

[still condor]

she gets tripled combo atk if ring is deactivated

[steep axle]

I dont have songque

I forgot to log in on whatever patch she came out

[still condor]

the only question i have is tband T ala MB on seele

[slim lion]

?

[still vine]

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV15qGCzcEyh

mobius ez

[main goblet]

top 10 moments in history

[willow pumice]

It’s not a bug, it’s a feature

[gusty thistle]

Fish skips are gone?

[versed garden]

CN discovered it, patch incoming

[gusty thistle]

They already removed the infinite dash. Now they'll remove the skips too dang

What makes this different from any other anicancel anyway haha

[shrewd socket]

~20 point diff

[short knoll]

0 pts diff since i dont use it

[half shard]

me can't use that cancel

[copper shale]

more like some discovered it, its just that ppl either rat or didnt want to use bugs

[vale granite]

It clearly isn't an intended one, that's it

[fervent hinge]

Songque try not to become dogshit due to nerfs challenge impossible

[shrewd socket]

awowo in shambles

[hollow raft]

just to be sure i would like to pull new sushang but im scare i would have not enough crystals for next S rank and my question is how much time i will have to save for if i decide to pull sus

[smoky lintel]

We're entering week 2 on Thursday so ~8 weeks

[willow pumice]

how many crystals do you have

[hollow raft]

0 and 40pity left

i was rolling sus but this was before i saw next S rank and i stopped

[shrewd socket]

left for her or weapon?

[hollow raft]

her

[shrewd socket]

skip

[willow pumice]

ye skip

[strange crystal]

Seeing that helia will be a new astral ring, what is the earliest patch we can expect new aop? I'm itching to rank teri aop to ss but my pity is already at 35.

[somber egret]

CN Anniv

[strange crystal]

Should I try pulling 10 more...

[nova osprey]

Since its not on helia patch, that means earliest is the patch after

[strange crystal]

just did and i got nothing

[somber egret]

Wow another spending event before cn anniv

[steep axle]

wasnt there a patch where an elf appeared out of thin air in v2 i hope that can happen again

[hard meadow]

no no they will sell it later

cn anni gonna be giga spending again trust

new op valk + dlc dkey + aop

[muted mauve]

I'm more likely to believe AOp on 8.4 than Anni.
ELFs were originally - Summer Patch + Anni Patch + New Year
Then they became - Summer Patch + New Year
And the latter schedule is the same for AOp: Songque (NY) - Sera (Summer) - Teri (NY)

[muted mauve]

would also make it:
8.1 8.2 8.3 8.4 8.5 8.6 8.7

[fervent hinge]

Damn

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1YWG2ziEvY

[hard meadow]

take*

[long forum]

I'm asking the same question but i don't even have S teri and it's starting to grate on me

But i'm broke and my pity is 25 so i'm finding reasons not to pull anymore

[steep axle]

horb dkey soon trust

horb dkey with 10 week patch

just make the patches 52 weeks atp

[muted mauve]

Nothing to do for the last 5 weeks of this patch

They keep moving resources away from this game to developed new ones and invest in whatever tech they feel like it.

[glass nacelle]

do my event tks

[muted mauve]

MiHoyo already cut:

• Animated Shorts
• Concerts
• Story Length

And increased:

• Patch Length

I wonder what the budget will affect next...
My first guess would be no longer main story every patch

Ugh. I'll go do something else to distract myself from these negative thoughts.
If only there was communication...

[steep axle]

eos soon trust

can we get a second eva collab i feel like that would get new players

with vita or smth

[gleaming imp]

Not the sumeru skin

They set my snake queen up to get dragged

[steady granite]

game devs trying to normalize orientalism case number 5784468123

[steady granite]

no more voiceovers for web events they're so short, never rerun, and usually become inaccessible once they're over

global already has to deal with that (with few exceptions)

so it wouldn't surprise me if they dropped CN dub for them as well

[vale granite]

@muted mauve I understand now
You probs were clicking on valk portraits in the event? I was tapping the valks themselves

[muted mauve]

valk itself

[vale granite]

PC vs mobile then?

Doesn't make sense still, but I can't think of anything else

[muted mauve]

I think it's more accurate to say that because it was already normalized that so many game devs and other creators from other fields place them into their creations without thinking twice about it.

Orientalism within popular media is something that sadly has existed for so long after all.

[umbral spoke]

we need this but for hi3
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/messagetovalve
atp hoyo is just as communicative as valve

[muted mauve]

What people are consciously trying to do more and more now is to bring awareness to stereotypes that had been normalized as to try to no longer have them be normalized.

[shrewd socket]

A Call for EoS (Benhuai3)

[umbral spoke]

not EoS, literally communication to their global audience

global being everyone and every region

[muted mauve]

those don't work

[steady granite]

tfw some reverse 1999 fans went red when one skin for british girlie (willow) released that had her in oriental clothing, until they got 🤓 👆 'd cuz it's correct with the alternations to skirt were seen as ok since she has prostatic leg, plus she got it from her friend who's part of that culture (black dwarf)

tbh I'd trust devs like reverse's cuz they're aiming for more realistic fashion to begin with, no matter the age they're portraying

for everyone else, they should prob just stay away

[shrewd socket]

these ppl wanting a justification for a skin

[steady granite]

um, yea?

[shrewd socket]

it's just a skin

[steady granite]

nothing exists by itself

[umbral spoke]

skins should fit the character

and if not, with explanation

[steady granite]

reminder that hi3 put minors in lewd clothing day 1

if "it's just a skin" then a cell is just a room

[umbral spoke]

okay but hoshis argument wasnt about those-

[steady granite]

disagree

[umbral spoke]

i think she means in general, as long as it looks nice

[steady granite]

if you're gonna talk about justification for outfits, there's plenty to talk about

and there's plenty of valid reasons why people might want one

culture misrepresentation being one, exploitation of the vulnerable being another, and I'm sure you can name more

everything chars wear should "make sense" imo, that'd be the best scenario in any case

like the wedding skin in pgr for lucia exists cuz they were shooting a commercial, you're not actually getting married

[umbral spoke]

is a flavor text description enough context?

[steady granite]

it can be, sure

with hi3 now releasing 1 skin per version with occasional BP recolor, I'd hope they'd do bit better in certain areas

[rain isle]

Gib Seewe moar skins. Reason? Cause I ask for them

[umbral spoke]

Coralie was justified I'd say, being an alternative version and all

not sure about Helia though

unless it has a mission related description that I missed

[steady granite]

people interpret its description similarly to corlie's, where it's between the alter vers of them, but I have no idea where it'd fit in their timeline

ruined world has emo clothing shops?

[shrewd socket]

description is related to Coralie's

[steady granite]

what happened to these uniforms, give me those

[umbral spoke]

ruined world has all battlesuit designs going haywire, so I guess they cant use that kind of clothing

but idk, its far-fetched

[steady granite]

ER suffers from the same dissonance, so it's not new, but still jarring

you're telling me 13 weirdos all had custom-made clothes, none of which was really made to improve their abilities, with no shared theme whatsoever

alright

can you imagine someone telling kalpas to hold still so they can take his measurements

[still condor]

just make aponia do it

[muted mauve]

Eden was the one who made the clothes.
Also, technically Kalpas' harness has lore.

[steady granite]

sure, but we see them in those even before "the 13" is formed

in reality it's just cost cutting measure on MHY's part

[muted mauve]

https://x.com/chibi0108/status/1548573214984527873

ちび🐦️Chibipiyo (@chibi0108) on X

[Translation][#HonkaiImpact3rd v5.9]
Vill-V's Great Inventions: Anti-Kevin Mk CIV (104)
"Surprisingly, the early prototypes of the Kalpas restraining wear (crossed out) have been tested by other Flame-Chasers?"
//
Users/testers for Anti-Kevin Mk CIV: Kalpas, Eden, Kosma, Mobius

X · Jul 17, 2022, 7:40 AM

[steady granite]

but it's really funny to think about how they got some random people from whatever other crew to join in on their mischief

aponia was wearing her clothes for longest I think, cuz we had that one web event going into when she joined

imagine writing to a famous singer if they can make you a fit and actually receiving one per mail a month later

[meager thorn]

if no main story every patch it may be joever

but even then im still stickin to the game till its end

[steady granite]

first time?

(this is granblue fantasy btw, and um, yea, we live off events cuz what else are you supposed to do)

[still vine]

play one of the better granblue games instead

[glass nacelle]

kek

reward is helia stig

[sinful river]

Is this current GLB patch also 9 weeks too?

Idk where to check

[glass nacelle]

bp shows the remaining days of patch

[muted mauve]

Hmm...
Cabbage and Taixuan Ice Cream?

feel like cabbage is bait so full in on ice cream

since they made the same bait last event

[toxic shore]

were the 5 supply cards not this version??

[muted mauve]

only much later into the version

[toxic shore]

I see

[shrewd socket]

how much later

[muted mauve]

Start of Week 6

[onyx crow]

we r getting a... 10 week patch..??

[half shard]

[desert lily]

Too long-

[onyx crow]

do they want the players to quit

or what

[full iris]

eos real

[glass nacelle]

why many whel in rl

[mossy escarp]

Denwhel real accs

[glass nacelle]

real

[gleaming imp]

Wait how? I thought 8.3 was 8 or 9 weeks?

[unique swallow]

where did you get that information

[slim lion]

Source?

[supple furnace]

Is it true? Tbh it’s not matter much 9 weeks already a turn off for me 🥀

[grand viper]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[mossy escarp]

99 weeks patch when

[gleaming imp]

I would love it if hi3 collab with this game and gave us a mistral collab valk suit she could’ve easily be a mech ice summoned entity dps

[grand viper]

ice because thats how she died ?

[slim lion]

I hope its not leaks and just their funny little assumptions

[gleaming imp]

Diva down moment, the world lost a queen

[still vine]

i played like an hour of that game years ago but just never continued it for some reason

[gleaming imp]

The game is so good, I played it just to see my queen mistral, and after that I finished the game and it was overall really solid experience, only con is weapon switching system it’s very stiff

[still vine]

i didn't know that game even had multiple weapons

[gleaming imp]

Tbf most people only use the same two weapons which are both swords so yeah

[still vine]

there's 2 swords?

[gleaming imp]

Back to our regularly scheduled cn gameplay program

[still vine]

no really what's the other sword

[gleaming imp]

It’s spoilers

[still vine]

just spoiler tag it, i may not have finished the game but i know the story

[gleaming imp]

[still vine]

https://tenor.com/view/jordan-stop-it-gif-15830202965985496707

[untold tree]

Wait do we not know the length of 8.3 I thought people were talking about that back in 8.2 beta

Am I getting my patch numbers mixed up

[gleaming imp]

I just personally just assume a default of 8-9 weeks per patch at this point, I’m not complaining about the long patches though as a f2p they’re good for more crystals easily

They make ascension supply’s very affordable for me

[neat yoke]

You get "more" crystals simply because of more Abyss, MA and ER. Patches will be empty and you'll get tired.

Most content will be in 3-4 weeks. After that a lot of ppl will stop playing until next patch.

[gleaming imp]

I just use nostalgia to not get tired or bored from long patches the thought of a p2 tall Dudu or p2 Rita or p2 p1 cast suit that I like is enough to give me the motivation to continue

[gusty thistle]

Omg stonk event?? TIME TO SCAM PEOPLE

[neat yoke]

That won't last long.

[gleaming imp]

Nostalgia never runs out since p1 boomers are part of the demographic that’s catered to

[neat yoke]

[slate elm]

My nostalgia ran out to the point that i regularly skip event stories of p1 events now

2filler4ever

(part of that is really because I'm just more busy)

[glass nacelle]

Dudu rerun and bridge outfit

[main goblet]

wow

dudu go away pls

i don't want ur shill again

[slim lion]

Ngl the event content is pretty repetitive
Like how teri is over worked or pb wants to quit its "job"
Yes hoyoverse we got it can you give something interesting
It's not nostalgia anymore if I keep getting p1 valks and events about them
They're here
Atp p2 is the nostalgia

[glass nacelle]

Shill until 9.0

[slim lion]

Staying strong for the helia

Will not fold

[slim lion]

Thanks cay

[vale granite]

It makes sense only for non-whel meta slaves really, and even then not completely

[unique swallow]

i'm a non whel metaslave

[vale granite]

You can afford to skip less, but if you do have to skip you'll be fucked even more

[unique swallow]

actually that's not true i dropped to a2 just 4 weeks ago

[glass nacelle]

*whel

[unique swallow]

[glass nacelle]

Dudu banner at 8.0, 8.1, 8.2

Similar to sparkle iirc

[slim lion]

Genuinely wish they made story longer
Somehow hsr has more story length duration while their patches are shorter than us

[vale granite]

Well, that's because that's where the profit is

[glass nacelle]

I don't want to read 10 hours story tks

[steep axle]

wow dudu rerun

does that mean she will be good in ner ar

[vale granite]

We don't know

[unique swallow]

try pressing the skip button

some people actually want to read

[slim lion]

...what's the point if they all want to skip it

[steep axle]

dont remind me my 12 hour screentime on hsr

[vale granite]

Those who want to skip can skip
Those who are lore nerds can enjoy

[vale granite]

My guess is that she'll stay niche in a sense that she'll be purely for shieldbreak

[glass nacelle]

Ppl still think yapping is good kek

[vale granite]

That's just a guess though

[glass nacelle]

[steep axle]

i dont remember if dudu had good sp regen or not

[vale granite]

She has passive off-field SP regen up to 90 iirc

[steep axle]

i only know vita is good at it but

wow thats cool

[vale granite]

Vita doesn't have the ??? tag tho

[steep axle]

doesnt vita have everything tag thing

[vale granite]

Yes, but that means she can't trigger special mechanics

Like Coralie and HoFi

[steep axle]

[vale granite]

She still provides buffs, that's the difference between having Omniscient Star and not having it

[steep axle]

also is new beta coming soon i feel like its been ages

[vale granite]

May 8th iirc

[steep axle]

oh its been 6 days since announcement 😭

[grand viper]

are you still in A2 caycay ?

[steep axle]

i love a2

[glass nacelle]

Ppl have a holiday

[unique swallow]

it's been 4 weeks

[vale granite]

That doesn't answer the question strictly speaking

[unique swallow]

no

i am not

in a2

[vale granite]

You could've dropped to Sinful

[versed garden]

it does, Cay sinful now

[grand viper]

[glass nacelle]

Wow no sushang demoot to sinful is real

[grand viper]

Starfall

[glass nacelle]

[unique swallow]

correct, i've quit honkai and moved to nikke

[versed garden]

sheep

[versed garden]

take me with you, I'm bored

[grand viper]

should just play exp33

[glass nacelle]

Bye

8.2 cn disturbance
-3 +1 every week
So it should be +1 after this cycle

[versed garden]

whats the dist now?

[glass nacelle]

515 in rl ios

[versed garden]

ic

[naive briar]

gib me your xtals

[unique swallow]

WorryMyTeri

[willow pumice]

v8.2 CN Supply Final Update
Schedule
Boss

[slim lion]

The AE outfit is very tempting

[grand viper]

took me 4 years to finally be able to use it

[terse ravine]

Is pretty.

[rain spindle]

getting outfit for a non-meta valk in this economy

[mild bloom]

I used AE as dps last abyss on nerdvana side stage, i missed her pretty ult
Why it's fully priced tho

[neat yoke]

But it's not 9600.

It's ~7k with discount.

[mild bloom]

Should be, if even HoH was discounted there's zero reason for those to not be
... It should be even more discounted btw

[neat yoke]

1. How much cards need for each pull.
2. One card cost 8 crystals.

[fervent hinge]

ooooooo

AKA DA outfits

I don't really like either hmmmm

[neat yoke]

You can also get their stamps/character card.

[abstract night]

Get aka so u can use her in a3 mob stages abyss

Or rl if her kit allows it

[neat yoke]

[abstract night]

[willow perch]

[vale granite]

If AE DPS works in RL AKA should work too

Eh, ig P1 Ice didn't get a P2 upgrade

[neat yoke]

AE dps still works in RL?

[glass nacelle]

Probably no more sushang boss after w6

[vale granite]

Someone cleared the sidestage last GLB cycle with AE CN Sparkle

[glass nacelle]

Fenghuang down

[mild bloom]

It was me, and it was Nirvana

[vale granite]

[abstract night]

They didnt wanna replace kira so soon 😌

[vale granite]

Yup, ez AE DPS in RL then

[willow pumice]

Oh thanks

[still vine]

probably would have been JK getting replaced

[abstract night]

True

[willow pumice]

Yeah white comet dps still works in rl

[glass nacelle]

Both are replaced by ely dkey

[fervent hinge]

gib rotation pls

I didn't try that team but I have the gear

[vale granite]

I mean, it should just be AE SP farm -> CN -> AE ult -> Sparkle -> AE for the first rot, and then AE SP farm -> CN -> Sparkle -> AE on all others

Maybe you don't need to SP farm on second+ rots

[mild bloom]

CN ult > Sparkle ult > AE ult, basic atk, combo atk, ult, combo atk
She can spam those ults until out of SP

[vale granite]

Huh
Aren't you losing some Sparkle buffs and ult CD reduction that way

[abstract night]

Can u give me sparkle and margrave?

[fervent hinge]

yeah I noticed that its really fun lmao

[vale granite]

Ult CD reduction for Sparkle herself that is

[abstract night]

If it even is margrave

[fervent hinge]

tyty will try it next opportunity I get

do u use fhd marg?

[mild bloom]

It's ok, you need to farm SP for CN anyways

I used Oblivion Down and FoV stigs

[vale granite]

What about the buffs tho
Lemme check what they are

[abstract night]

FoV if she was psychic

[vale granite]

Oh, it's just Ignite DMG, mb then

[glass nacelle]

Use g4 ez

[abstract night]

I wish i had FoV M...

Then I could run Coralie ER at her max potential

[mild bloom]

Tho i used FoV stigs for power i really missed Margrave atk speed
Without it AE feels slow asf

[abstract night]

Why not run...ShakespeareA...

Then bonk a piece for atk speed....lemme look..

Actually idk how too

[mild bloom]

Oh, forgot to mention in the rot if you use Oblivion Down you click active first, before ulting with AE
The active slaps hard, almost at Uriel level

[muted mauve]

Atleast this patch isn't as empty as the last.
Not that it is hard to achieve.

But the content from week 4 to 9 is still

[fervent hinge]

[steep axle]

helloo

[glass nacelle]

bye + 100

[willow pumice]

[willow pumice]

wow this assaka has no hp

feels like sinful

[glass nacelle]

[steep axle]

when was last fallen otto on abyss

i feel like i havent seen him since event thing

[glass nacelle]

last patch

[steep axle]

wasnt last patch normal otto

[glass nacelle]

What's "fallen otto"

[steep axle]

white one

or black i forgot

one with wings

PE boss

[slim lion]

"False god otto"

[glass nacelle]

[glass nacelle]

real

[steep axle]

that one otto from 5.4 with early access pe

[steady granite]

IS THAT WOTAN

they yassified the robot

[steady granite]

having 3 more weeks to slack is good for me, as wiki admin

give me more time to add stuff if not that many people contribute, thanks

I almost quit over not being able to find the time to actually enjoy the game cuz of it

[glass nacelle]

update AstralOp skill

[steady granite]

I refuse

they're so awful

just when I was revamping elf skill templates, they nuked the whole system out of the orbit before returning with it, now twice as fat

why the hell did ELFs even get AR to begin with

[fervent hinge]

oof yeah astral ring skills as a wiki admin gotta be rough as shit lol

[glass nacelle]

[fervent hinge]

too many skills in this game now ngl

I don't even remember what my valks do anymore

[steady granite]

one other editor is painstakingly trying their best to add that stuff atm and I'll cheer on them from the backline while I do other stuff

[muted mauve]

It's General Wotan

[steady granite]

please
read HoH:E AR skill

[glass nacelle]

[fervent hinge]

[steady granite]

I had to zoom out

lmao

[fervent hinge]

astral ring so stupid ngl

I'm not a big fan of it

[glass nacelle]

u stupid

[fervent hinge]

just added another layer of niche and they made the bosses increasingly miserable if you don't have the one solution

[steady granite]

both statements can be true at the same time

[fervent hinge]

ya I can't read

I can write tho

[steady granite]

at least new ARs don't feel as bad as dendro did when it was finally added to the game

completely changing how some chars were to be played

[glass nacelle]

[muted mauve]

Or if you rather Mecha Lightning Lord

jk

[steady granite]

this wasn't added by me btw and when I saw it, I thought it just has to be fake

still thinking that, but I don't have time to double check

wouldn't be the first time tho

[steady granite]

HoTruth skills require you to read what's essentially an instruction manual

[main goblet]

school presentation be like

[umbral spoke]

in a good or bad way

i mean idk, she also does a lot

[steady granite]

having that is better than not, but the summaries often suck

more often than not, they just obscure the numbers instead of actually simplifying the block of text

they moved skill inputs to a different menu for new valks and that's sometimes broken (like it displays wrong char), so it doesn't help either

[fervent hinge]

They need to simplify it to just the buffs given lmao

[steady granite]

I'm glad we don't have lore fluff in skills tho, can you imagine every skill being prefaced with "And with her grace, she bestows her enemies with the greatest gift she could possibly have-painless death." or some shit

[vale granite]

I would cry

[glass nacelle]

maybe this is the final sushang boss in this patch

[umbral spoke]

it's just getting started

think more about the badum shill this patch

[smoky lintel]

Have you seen RS rerun more RS shill

[umbral spoke]

[smoky lintel]

[main goblet]

[rain isle]

[glass nacelle]

[smoky lintel]

[next echo]

[slate merlin]

[muted mauve]

Oh cabbage wasn't bait.

First Day-First Half: Cabbage UP, Ice Cream Up

Firsy Day-Second Half I'm expecting Tesla fireworks and hot peppers maybe?

Both prices are down indeed.

Welp. Going all in on fireworks since safer

[oak yarrow]

how can one expect to win big if they dont take big risks

[main goblet]

is this like the roza and liliya web event?

[oak yarrow]

dont go safe

[muted mauve]

Taking risks won't help me tho.
Both Fireworks and Peppers (either that or Sushang book) are likely to go up.
I can just invest all on Fireworks and have them go up instead of investing on fireworks + a 50/50

These are the items today btw

vs yesterday

[vale granite]

Yes

[main goblet]

ohh

guess roza and liliya gone broke to be selling that store to sushang and senti lol

[glass nacelle]

i forgot to do web event kek

[main goblet]

senti is disappointed smh

[gleaming imp]

Omg the nostalgia I'm getting from this as a p1 boomer and because I own the fu hua figure of that outfit

[ripe kernel]

WEDDING HUA RERUN?

https://tenor.com/view/toji-toji-fushiguro-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-season-2-gif-6518764050556277042

[golden comet]

When does 8.3 beta start

[steady granite]

can't be bothered to find the message, but estimate was end of next week iirc

[small wing]

For global?

Or this CN dates

[main goblet]

these are normal dates tho

[muted mauve]

CN

[steady granite]

not everyone remembers

some of us are getting forgetful in our old age

[naive briar]

[muted mauve]

Yep. Fireworks and Peppers UP.
Looks like Tea increase in 12 hours

Also probably this

[abstract night]

...i got scammed from that event last rerun
It said it had like 12 hours left and it just went "what event? Lol"

[somber egret]

What Event?

[abstract night]

That event above

The selling and buying event

I lost an Ai Chan: Sweet Dreams
Last time it came

I got it finally ....from timecapsule.

[muted mauve]

Dumpling and Vase Up

I'm not sure for this phase...

Went sportswear + shades...

lost money this phase

[glass nacelle]

[craggy sentinel]

eos soon

dawei told me

[glass nacelle]

fake news ben

[glass nacelle]

pc server

[willow pumice]

eos bangboo

[verbal mountain]

eos imminent

[muted mauve]

Nearing a extimated half of Themis' revenue || ||

[novel elbow]

eos tomorrow?

[muted mauve]

it's not gonna eos so soon .-.

[gleaming imp]

Does this mean the new sushang flopped and is a khia?

[steep axle]

helia will revive the game trust

i do not want it to be eos before a new HoV

[gleaming imp]

I mean helia is currently residing in the khia asylum dungeon after her debut suit so I don’t have much faith in a new one letting her be able to break out

[verbal mountain]

this game is flopping

😔

can they finally stop with p1 chars after helia pls

[gleaming imp]

But p1 nostalgia on top for p1 boomers like me

[ember locust]

Tbh even like that

[verbal mountain]

nostalgia but game is dying

[ember locust]

The game is becoming more and more niche

[verbal mountain]

seems like p1 boomers don't like the nostalgia

[gleaming imp]

Maybe it’s because sushang came after big patch possibly

[verbal mountain]

[ember locust]

I mean he's right though

[gleaming imp]

And most of her hype came from hsr fans possibly

[fervent hinge]

Theres two extreme reactions to patch length increase rn and I find it so funny that both are wrong

[ember locust]

Sushang came right after a spending event

[ember locust]

Favorable to F2P grind but ass for content

Smh

[verbal mountain]

well game hasn't been revived by all the other p1 chars they've released

point is fine but doesn't answer the bigger picture

[ember locust]

For sure it doesn't but that's one of the factors

[glass nacelle]

sushang banner released at the end of march

[fervent hinge]

Patch length increase will definitely damage the game but people genuinely saying it will EoS soon are dumb

So I hope everyone is joking when they say that xD

[verbal mountain]

no eos (yet)

[glass nacelle]

just jk ofc

[verbal mountain]

eos after god sena release in 12.0

[fervent hinge]

People saying patch length increase is great also dumdum

Revenue gonna go through the floor

[verbal mountain]

it's good in the sense that there's more time to save
bad in the sense that there's no content already so longer patches will just make the drought even worse

[fervent hinge]

The sole benefit is less demand to spend

Its really really bad for literally everything else

[muted mauve]

I've seen some people whose train of though lacks so much sense that they were saying patch length increase is actually a sign of good things to come.

❓

[fervent hinge]

No its not they're clearly putting this game into low maint mode

[glass nacelle]

nah they play multiple games not just hi3

[fervent hinge]

That proves my point more tbh

[ember locust]

Like I said, it's favorable for F2P but as much as we would want to cope

[ember locust]

You're right

[celest valley]

Longer patches for part2 kinda boring

With how the story going on now

[ember locust]

Bc they didn't adapted the length of content with it

[gleaming imp]

Do the longer patches mean that a valk has more time to be relevant?

[ember locust]

Huuuh

Not convinced

[celest valley]

I kinda like longer patches of we have side stories like Sakura Samsara or honkai chronicles

[muted mauve]

I also saw people who think the reduced revenue is actually something that the hi3 team decided on intentionally with the gacha changes.
Intead of a showcase of the state of the playerbase.

Yes. There are people out there that think hi3 team decided to make 10x less money

[celest valley]

People thinks that are madlad crazy

Who want a less revenue

[ember locust]

https://steamcharts.com/app/1671200

Steam is quite enough to show it

[hard meadow]

someone actually plays the game through steam?

[gleaming imp]

I wish hi3 was on console

Like ps4/xbox one

I feel like the squidward looking out his window at SpongeBob and Patrick meme seeing the other hoyo games be on console

[hard meadow]

you know you can use controller with pc and phone

[gleaming imp]

[vale granite]

You can't use a gamepad on Android tbf
Well, you can on gaming phones afaik cuz of inbuilt software, but other third-party stuff is bannable from what I've heard

[hard meadow]

yea only works on iphone for some reason

same as higher fps cap on iphone

who knows..

[vale granite]

HoYo is just Apple fanboys

[hard meadow]

certainly there is no deal or anything

[glass nacelle]

[steady granite]

I'm delusional so you can ignore me, but one can cope that it means devs realize that constant FOMO with events shorter than average cold are bad for players' long-term enjoyment of the game

it's not rare for me to skip 2nd part of whatever patch in whatever game simply because I can't log in for few days due to irl stuff and everything's just over, and I can't plan for events that weren't announced until much later

it's obv a business decision the details of we'll never know, BUT I'd personally hope for all games to have much longer patches

if I wanted a game where things change fast but none of them really matter, I'd play something like fortnite or any of the other team shooters with battle passes that rotate in and out and it's most that you get

[hard meadow]

web events arent going to become any longer

major events were already patch-long

[steady granite]

did you know that in 2020 there was a web event called The Apocalypse Scandal in which they reused crossdressed otto gag? I didn't, until I found out about it by chance
and it was run reading it
hua literally punched mc and his lights went out and then she committed arson
I'm selfish and I want more content to be accessible

[steady granite]

make it all perma

[hard meadow]

bloated game size

[steady granite]

we literally have a menu that lets you delete old stuff

what are you on

use and expand that menu

[hard meadow]

not intuitive to average player

[steady granite]

skill issue???

they can literally just ask how to make the size smaller and get told where to look

it's not a good excuse

lmao

[hard meadow]

if the skill issue prevents them from spending money then hoyo is very interested in mitigating that issue

[steady granite]

can you please stop imagining people to be so incompetent that they can't figure out what's going on with an app yet still skillfull enough to hold a job and actually earn money to spend

reinstall is many people's first choice when troubleshooting and with proper configuation, that'd be more than enough

it's insulting that you think average player is no better than a zombie

[hard meadow]

many people making six figures are absolutely incompetent when it comes to anything tech related

[steady granite]

yet, just because they don't know something instinctively, doesn't mean they're so asocial it wouldn't even cross their mind to ask someone, maybe not even a person but a bot would be good enough

I'm sorry if you're surrounded by idiots, but most people can figure shit out even if it takes them few fails

hope you get better soon

[hard meadow]

no they will not ask

they will just think the game is dumb and uninstall it

[steady granite]

stop with the headcanon

it's cringe as shit

[hard meadow]

nice for you that you never had to deal with people i wish it would be the same for me

[steady granite]

I know morons exist, but I'm not deluding myself into believing it's majority of the population, or even a substantial amount

I literally work in retail atm

you're not winning me over

[hard meadow]

im not trying to win anything and you seem way too heated

[steady granite]

misinformation should bother anyone

you made up people to get mad about just to excuse why devs wouldn't add a certain feature

instead of doing the easy way which is to say "they won't do it cuz that means paying someone to do it"

which is the most realistic approach imo, the game's spaghetti

[hard meadow]

what is there to pay when the event is already there

if anything they have to pay someone to remove it

[steady granite]

the event may be there but the menu that'd let you access it past the deadline / keep & reset your progress as needed isn't

if it was so simple as just moving stuff elsewhere, the event album CN got wouldn't get abandoned

[hard meadow]

but we literally have that menu now for.. i dont remember how long? half a year? a bit more?

[steady granite]

not everything is in it and someone has to maintain it

which is work

if there are bugs because things were moved, someone has to fix them

[hard meadow]

exactly, not everything is still permanent despite having it

[steady granite]

because they're not willing to pay someone to make it happen or have an agenda against it

not because people would quit over bloated game size

spending players* I should add

which was your og argument

[hard meadow]

ah yes the game planners have an evil agenda against permanent events, and relish in the suffering of people who miss the events

that makes sense

[steady granite]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message

business decisions don't usually have assigned morality to them, they can do it because it shows that people play more because stuff's limited

why name it evil despite me not calling it that

[hard meadow]

i couldnt imagine what other type of "agenda" they would have

[steady granite]

open a dictionary

do your own homework, I'm done here

[hard meadow]

[muted mauve]

events were 6 weeks long and only take a few hours to beat (besides those few times where mihoyo decided to make 100 floors or 48 stages for emblem which was ???)

web events, like the example you gave, are still only 1 to 2 weeks. they just happen later in the patch.

or for the current web event, still 2 weeks but mid-patch.

[steady granite]

I didn't do the farm event when it released cuz you needed to wait like half a day for milk

I'd pay xtals to skip that, but you couldn't

I also don't have few hours to spend in a day to just sit down and play games non-stop, but that's besides the point and personal

irl skill issue

[ember locust]

Tbh with Hoyo updating ZZZ, HSR, Genshin, HI3rd plus GGZ at the same time + cooking up a potentially new game... huuh

HI3rd is actually cooked

And it's a matter of time

[steady granite]

they're not taken care of by the same dev team

even if some faces are familiar

[ember locust]

It won't lead to low maintenance or EOS now, but might be in the next few years

[muted mauve]

but hi3 people are moved to newer games' teams

[muted mauve]

well that's a issue with hoyo's love for timegates

[ember locust]

They're definitely being moved in other games, Shaoji being moved in HSR for Amphoreus is an example of that

[muted mauve]

or rather, hi3 team since newer games only have initial release time gate instead of progress gate.
(but those events are also way more barebone)

[hard meadow]

they dont want you to sit down for 3-5 hours and finish the event in one go

[steady granite]

which is fine, you want your trusted employees to learn new stuff and be even more useful, which may not be possible if they stay in the same place
they already sold your soul to you, might as well make use of them and have someone new do the easier stuff

[muted mauve]

there can have a time gate when the event first releases.
but there's no reason for the timegate to be there by the end of the patch, such so that it makes it impossible to complete the event.

[hard meadow]

hi3 is easier?

[ember locust]

Tbh HI3rd is far more easier to manage than Genshin is

Really

[hard meadow]

well they often have stuff like doubled rate towards the end of the patch

[ember locust]

(That is in gameplay time)

[hard meadow]

but yeah if you are starting on literally the last 1-2 days you are cooked

[muted mauve]

Not saying it's wrong to move people to newer projects, if anything I'm happy they have career progression.
But older teams are getting to a point they don't have the means to keep up standard development progress.

And that "being seperate teams" doesn't mean one doesn't impact the other.

[steady granite]

the craziest thing they added to hi3 was a jump button, and then they needed like few years to refine that

that's nothing in comparison to what the other games are dealing with

[hard meadow]

ofc you want your most talented people to work on your 100 million dollar game rather than your 5 million dollar game

[muted mauve]

I'm not comparing to other games

[steady granite]

(was answering that)

[muted mauve]

ah

I see

[hard meadow]

yes the craziest thing they added in last couple years is a jump button

thats correct

[steady granite]

apho 3 will revitalize the game, trust

[ember locust]

Other Hoyoverse games are very VERY different from HI3rd

[steep axle]

i didnt even start apho 2

[steady granite]

playable sora in 2027

[vale granite]

They definitely didn't just reuse the APHO mechanics trust