#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion
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I want aka 2.0
no seele astral ring? 😔
Then don't use LoA
You gotta give other rings a niche amirite
Oh right. Forgot Rita -_-
Yea, should be Rita or Bronya. Chenxue doesn't fit being ice valk tbh, and she looks like an A-rank too >.<
But last A-rank was 7.3. Dmn, I still regret pulling Helia weapon.
Keep on coping 
I'm coping too
Helia was good while she lasted
idk why you're suddenly looking for a fight, but whatever makes you happy 
For real. Was it 4 patches? Or 5?
Same
I returned in vita patch and saw helia weapon is given for free
I hate that freebie so much. At least give my Coralie a priarm!
Idk
I didnt pull pt2 valks till 7.7
How ?
understandable, there's no nostalgia 7.3-7.6
breath is a nostalgia inhaler
Uhm no its just like
I wanted HoRb in 7.3/7.4
7.5 uh idk i forgot
7.6 uh idk i forgot
Sci supported my luna, which allowed me to convert slowly, and 7.8 i got vita which just well. But i also lucksacked a sena so i had a pt2 team
Pulled badum and HoH dkey in 8.1, and now helia in 8.3
Oh right, HoRb weapon rerun on 7.4, and it's still using Focused Supply. I backpulled Luna even as a newbie last 7.3 so who am I to judge 🤧
I'm guessing HoRb dkey 8.4
OH yeah
I was a fucking idiot and pulled songqueop in 7.3
What the...
Oh well, at least she became useful to Eepy DPS by 7.7 lmao
And vita copium dps, and sena, and literally all my teams besides badum
Cuz i got teriop
It'll be by 8.5. CN Anniv will fall by that patch
Have you SS Teri? Seeing as Teri AOP SS-rank can buff based on team HS tags, she might be good cope for SP AR (with LoA valks as supports)
Ugh I couldn't get horb cause I was like 10k away from spending event limit
Do you have Sparkle or Dudu?
No
I mean I got badum with gear and hohe dkey still needed like 10k to reach horb reward
But didn't want to pull theresa astral op so skipped it
Ahhh. I see, I pull teri aop that's why...
Now that 8.3 valk is another damn lightning, I feel like I should've pulled the astralop and get horb too
should i get songque op...
how much info do we have about the 8.3 valkyrie?
Everything that's in the pins and that's it
when will we get helia animation?
8th
sp regen ring and no spork (if i read this right spork's ult fits this ring so well its not even funny)
mech girl that literally shoots fire everywhere proceeds to be bio lightning
hoyo made some questionable decisions frfr 
spoop doesnt even have tag for the ring anyway
that is the problem 
fym problem
i mean this new helia design is different from the first one with flames
she got lighting around her
i mean what is electricity but an smart way to use fire
both of them harm u if you touch them directly 

I would like it if helia reheated dudus DA nachos but dudu should reheat them over helia
Play like HoV pls
Ring description implies ult spammer
imagine
bear
like think about it
our bear = ult spammer
bleed dmg on new ring should equate to sus being her best partner
all the more accurate 
Pls no
but it makes sense right 
id rather her be a ws support with paralyze than bleed and have her rely on sushang.
Oh right thats why people are saying DA
Yeah that'd be cool actually
...timeslow ult tho 
Huh
pls kick Susannah i can't believe that they didn't give us another random part 1 character and here u want that to happen 😭
You mean timestop?
Wot
Or the last one
i mean apho mei (if shes gonna be released at all) shoulld be ahead of her in line so theres that
While all the ones in between are timeslow 
while we're talking about part 1 randoms
APHO Mei robbed tbh
imagine silverwing dk 
Naurrr
sure when p2 gets some breathing room
first i was nice we get to see our old friends now its pls stop 😭
Nyx dkey
Shes perfect for WoD
I hope new ring translation doesn't start with a H as well, the rings and tags are all starting to sound the same
We have HS and HSS, get ready for HSSS
need a lot of pulls for that hsss
WS, DR
WoD, HSS
RoO, OS
LoA, HS
New tag, New Tag²


RoO's is Omniscient Star
wait so whats the "unique" playstyle of roo again
Thats whats unique about it
That's the shtick, it doesn't have unique mechanics by itself
we'll probably get more o's all because of "of"
The fact that its not
It's a wildcard
like ws = mark go boom wod = hehe team me loa = hehe osu simulator
Omg its AE? :0
Vita DPS's playstyle is close to WoD while trio's is close to LoA
and then theres roo 
roo gameplay is just whatever the valk fancy it to be
Vita dps, what's that
Been ages already
Fr
TC and ele res? gg
i wonder if we'll be a roo valk that wants other astra rings in their team
anti vita
im interested in that
Doesn't help that Vita dps is locked to a single team composition
Considering how they design valks without the Omniscient Star tag (except Helia ofc) that probs won't happen
yeah..
if we're not looking at the thicc with 3 extra c's physical shield that both waves have then sure 
What
Oh the boss
Yuck
It's not a Phys shield
But ye, I did forget about that
the mob wave was
the boss's shield can be broken by other elements as well
but iirc that shield still has phys vul
Well, then you don't care about it if your DMG source is ele
Apo herself just has ele res
unless thel dps with que as a supp 
we mald que to break shield (yes que personal dmg as wod supp sucks but phys yk)
how does dudu do against her 
Garuda Fu Hua -> Eepy Theresa = 231 days (2023/12/21 vs 2024/8/8)
Songque -> Plane Helia = 336 days (2024/6/27 vs 2025/5/29)
Lantern Event -> Now = 351 days
Lantern Event -> 8.4 = 441/448 days (2024/5/9 vs 2025/7/24 or 2025/7/31)

thanks for sharing 
Whats lantern event?
Lantern Against Shadow.
Last patch main event that was part 2 focused
I liked the vita event, it reminded me of the good old days 
Lighting never misses
Except a rank helia
I still feel bad that I spent 34 or 36 pulls for weapon only for her weapon to be free eventually 
Does that count as a skem? 
Erdös Helia vs Litost (Knight of God) boss fight. Part 2 Chapter 8 (Version 8.2).
0:00 - Phase 1
1:50 - Phase 2
3:40 - Phase 3
Credits: HOYO-MiX
such a weak boss theme
nah it has ruimu vibe
ded game
What does it mean? 
it says all adv chars will not be getting shill with their supply

returnee event has started
it says den so whel
Yall should fund me ive been f2p since they day i started playing

Will they give sus a new outfit or does this one already exist
Also why does seele go around as HoRb doesnt she have like a civilian form 
existed iirc
Imagine going to a restaurant to eat fried rice and a literal Herrscher is serving you
At least it's not HoFi
She would eat the rice herself
Why don't Seele walk around in normal clothing? Because they made Fu Hua walk in pain
guess hoyo too lazy making this model ingame then
not exactly the same but close enough 
lazy
Oh wow, sp ult ring
At least it's not evasion spam ring amirite 
I hope it's like vke ult


kuro whel
kuwhelro

already tired evade mald with Thelema , pls no

I can’t wait for it on global 
i can 
ely in 2025
Shoulda given raven instead smh 
Omg it’s my time to shine
I knew pulling on ely adv was the way to go after all 
And my thelema will be SS
*non-leader dps for emotionial support
that being said, its crazy how good thelema is. Really dont mind
For 1 single weather, and ur dying in every other ones

After I get thelema I won’t

U will

Thelema will brute force what my hofin or vita can’t

I’m only missing phys but I won’t need it
And get -100 anyway
wouldnt say that too early

no phys is mega oof
I’m not worried about bleed weather I’ll just do thelema brute force I think 
any mob with phys shield = gg
Thats not gonna happend, sus will get like +100 vita luna/luna/sus bear teams and +300 everything else

I just need to retain

Ur still gonna die because the ones who didnt pull sus will probs have luna or sus bear 
nah just go LK or SI
Ram spittin rn
yeah
LK 
most copium option is brick

That’s why I’ll just do either SI support for bleed application or Kira with bleed gun

I have T ovt and MB cez now

And get -100 from a proper bleed team
Kira bleed supp
Excuse me while I laugh my lungs out


i mean if thelema would work-
Feel like d will get too high for thel bruteforce to compete
My thel will be SS not like the average S0/S2 
Actually wait didnt cn have some massive -d this patch
Dry wont have the skills to outscore s0

I’ll learn, how hard can it be 
Then get capped by frame rate

Frame rate won’t stop me from my top 3

Top 3(000)
My ely is ss2 and my thel will be SS, I should have a huge advantage compared to others

nah i still remember flower boss , even your high rank HoFi still cant catch up with S0 ref
My hofin scored higher 


What's the line up for 8.2 time capsule shop?
hope 8.3 is spending with new dkey
unlikely for 8.4 to have spending and 8.5 feel too long for new dkey 
when is anni, 8.4?
who else even suitable for a DK? HoRB?
cause HoTr is more like a package with HoFi than a standalone unit
Wow, still no news about Time Capsule even in CN
Because not every patch has one
Man i really need them past solo weapons and stigmas for collection
Maybe they can make it permanent like the new BP works for past equipments?
With HoHe who got a DK in 8.1, I suppose we would get one in 8.4
@kind atlas HoRb is suitable for a DK, if outside of the Herrschers : FoV and Luna... Otherwise...
doubt we get a spending event in 8.3, haven't even got a topup event this patch
8.5 should be anni with spending, 8.4 will be normal patch, unlikely for dkey
can't wait to upload my HoV guide in a couple weeks and have it become obsolete in 8.4 with horb dkey
calling it rn
There's literally no reason to get a spending in 8.3 if we literally got one in 8.1
Noticeably if anniv is close enough
patch is longer now
Well, they need to release smth along Helia for a spending event to make sense
patch is longer, it would make sense to do spending > topup > spending
And it doesn't look like we'll be getting anything else
or even nothing > topup > spending > nothing > ...
spending in 8.4 and 8.5 make even less sense
8.4 makes the most sense imo
agree
Helia has been already announced for 8.3, there's a low chance she's gonna be spending
Yup
They're announced at the last moment lol
Im broke and unable to get sushang weapon after i got her at 80 pity bruh spending events are a no go
so unless 8.3 public beta rolls around and it has a dkey, probably a topup event patch or simply nothing
2nd confirmation, no time capsule ever announced in 8.2?
Yes
I haven't played for a while due to me opening my own private practice so I don't have enough for Sushang. Surely I'll pull for Helia
Damn, and its 2 months
No time capsule, we got one last patch
in any case 8.5 should have spending because anni, not sure about 8.3 8.4 but i dont think 8.4 will have one
Time capsule isn't every beginning of new patch?
Nope.
I see
No, only during spending patches
is it?
Not necessarily iirc
I didn't think it had correlation with spending events
its kinda just
!faq dawei
I really hope they somehow can make old equipments that no longer obtainable available again somehow.
Do you play HI3 for like a.. week?
xd
Iirc HoV release
I do agree that time capsule should be run every patch or every other patch because it's not frequent enough but there's almost no equipment that is genuinely impossible to obtain
Back then i always burn anything 3* or lower
What's with your knowledge then?
only thing I remember being unobtainable is the spirit sword from preregistration?
The old equipments will be avalaible throught the new BP system
I gained sentience/grasp the game infos around end of 1.5 arc
I see to many ppl claiming they play since HoV release, but they know almost nothing about the game..
Only 4* ones i think
Currently with the new BP system all old weaps are avalaible until the release of HoHe (6.0)
Yea we just mindlessly play the game, thing are much simpler back then
If not wrong
what equipments are impossible to obtain? can you name any?
I'm talking about 3* and lower ones
?
It was way more complicated.
9 newt meta
Yeah nah 3* weaps are not even used, better to use 4☆ one
That sword with 3 red magatama spinning around it.
M181-ish pistol, phoenix equipments (not the valk)
yes thats the spirit sword from preregistration I was talking about, ofc its not obtainable it was a preregistration gift
Ah i see
the other two I've never heard of so I'll just take your word for it unless someone else can confirm if they show up in time capsule or elsewhere
What pistol?
Tho pretty sure the pistol is from weapon fragments before they revamp / remove them completely
well I've heard of those phoenix guns but no idea how to get them
The black pistol
This?
Oh its USP EX
no, pistols
Yes that too
oh xd
Its USP EX
He did mention the Phoenix
well looks like some of these are really old rewards so the only way to obtain them was to play during that time
xd
These are swords I'm missing in the collection
yeah I doubt some of these will ever become obtainable they have no reason to do it and seems like they were in special events
Not the Xuanyuan again 😭
Yeah the phoenix weapon series
I remember Xuanyuan collection was in one of Time Capsules.
Probably old ones when i didn't know they're relic
Oh yeah after I'm check my storage i have all xuanyuan weapon series
Before that it was 4.1 ver.
Yet they didn't remove them from collection book, seemingly to make completionist scream in agony
But seeing old 4* equipments added to a special BP works give me a glitter of hope that they would somehow make these low rarity equipments available again
I'm definitely getting HI3 version of Ebony and Ivory pistol
imagine not having USP EX 

Literally the abyss killer in their era 
Kinda missed the time where mixing stigmas and using specific weapons for each abyss weather and not heavily relying on fullset valks
didn't even realise you couldn't get a lot of these old weapons anymore
feel like they used to be very frequent story drops or something
Im fairly certain I destroyed my copy of these

trading system when so I can give you one 
wait I have 2 identical MiG-7 cannons with different stats 
actually I'm stupid
one of them has a mini star

I will find you... and I will salvage it

also wtf is this
ermm
lightning ? :
Ima make you lose your job mac



normal S rank valk
normal , good at her own niche
if you can still retain redlotus and isnt rushing for nirvana, better wait for 8.3 news
Yeah imma wait then. Either way patch will be super long
Any confirmation about outfits?
Because i've seen a cursed one 
I don't think you want to gamble

I was literally excepting it seeing how Teri AOP buffs Light DMG, not sure Helia is part of LOA though
I was expecting lightning because I played the chapter
Lantern not even doing the job, she got mad and transformed into a boss.
PS : She's jealous of Elysia
The new one coming in this patch ?
She buffs lightning damage only to Rite Of Oblivion
ye
Yup Helia's cooked for that support... She's part of a new AR and not LOA in additionnal then ?
*RoO
🤦♂️🤦♂️ Why tf I type LoA
elybad
We just know that she is the new ring type.
survey time
No
She is
Something new
I see
Check the pin 
I did 👍
Imagine dea anchora gameplay, but as an astral ring mechanic

Time to say: Version too long, story too short. Once again
real question is sos when
Who needs help?
me?

so basically during astral ring. ult can set a new combo ?

unbox
I clicked satisfied on the questionaire part of the main story and then they didn't ask more questions about it.
They didn't let me say too short / handwaved explanations
wtf mhy 
ult is tied to conditions
can't meet the condition: can't ult
Y'all i have around 25k rn
should I pull for sushang or save for helia
I only have badum for supporting the new AR, ik ely dk's getting a rerun but i don't think she'll be a good supp for now 😭
Can get valk AND her weapon = pull. Can't = no pull.
see rl bracket
sleep
Also.
As if they knew it's too short lol
Wait for Helia, plus there's a good chance Elysia's DK will rerun later on (might be 8.4, anyway the next spending event)
Plus while Sushang is the first ever bleed valk for P2, she's not a must pull since Luna can still deliver a decent performance in Bleed weathers, that is if you have her
ppl don't have Luna
SO TRUEEEE
HoVs your DA
honestly wanna get sushang cause I want bleed unit but ugh helia in 8.3 looks like a baddie
its too late for me to decide
honestly i need help deciding

Hows the crystals and pity looking
not good but I get money next month
already did discounted pull too so i'm left with 9k
Just save for Helia then
I'm planning to buy monthly and BP
Still helia
ok
dang guess I'm gonna be unable to do bleed weathers if they ever pop out of nowhere
plus current patch too
Cope with vita ig
Rec not changing till you swipe enough to guarantee a valk and a half plus weapon

did helia animations get posted yet
or is it still considered spoiler

Official cn dev video is May 8 iirc. For public beta, it'll be by v2, May 9 i think
lyo wake up
do i need to add anything else
whats going on on the right side 
im sure everyone said this but
im kinda glad she gives me hov kiana vibes
patch notes when
good question
the 5 HoV fans are happy
2 weeks later.
Is that official?😭
Is also new sushang with the pull?
that image is edited, the og is in the pins btw
although no real info, gameplay info is in around 2 weeks
THANKS
wow is this the new HoV augment


if you are talking about the new helia we dont even know her supports tags for now
imagine the RoO support tag 
nope
i wouldnt reccomend talking abt that here even if you did
crazy but she still can't support vita then 
i mean technically she can
why thats the point of the chanel to talk abt the beta
yeah about that
you forget Vita wants other character with the RoO support tag 
we are only allowed to talk about things offically revealed by hoyo check pins to know what is revealed
#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message i feel like ai chan explains it better
she wants RoO not omniscient star 
its not leaked if its beta tho
i mean that with RoO support tag
i only forgot its name
thats the thing beta isnt out yet
v1 beta is considered leaks
Beta ain't for awhile though-
yeah ik but she still does not want that, everyone can support RoO she specifically wants chars with RoO astral ring specialisation 
okay to clear it up: imagine new Helia having omniscient star tag so Vita DPS would increase
To make it easier: imagine vita dps not being locked to a single team composition
The dream
yeah but vita wants RoO chars
omniscient star is irrelevant to her, or do you mean increase her dps in another way 
Official gameplay only starts from may 8. Everything before that is leaks
...f*ck. forgot it needs AR-type, not just the omniscient star...
smh 
oh okay
Vita needs RoO 
One could dream if she just needed Omniscient Star
i mean at the moment omniscient star is exclusive to RoO chars anyway 
To me also would seem funky to give a non RoO Omniscient Star-
Gonna be clunky putting the tag outside of RoO on a valk with less than 4 support tags 
Plus the potential supports for Helia are literally from LoA currently
Only for now
Welcome to 2026 where the new RoO valk has 7 support tags 
To try to even get Vita DPS upgraded we would need a completly new RoO character
vita powercreep real
nah coralie powercreep real
So much on a single Valk 
Which might not happen unless Coralie or HoFi Waxing Moon gets powercreep
The dark lord deserves nothing less 

At this point, Coralie is already cooked in any team, except RoO
good let her die
And only 3-4 of them will actually be used 

holy peak

4 is too much credit



We are in a cycle of:
new ring -> 3 valks of new ring -> new ring
With only 5/6 patches per year and 2 rings per year...
7.3 ws ws roo
7.4 wod
7.5 wod
7.6 wod
7.7 ws
7.8 roo roo
7.9 ws
8.0 loa
8.1 loa wod
8.2 loa
only extra releases as old rings 

That would fit if they plan to release 12 AR types, meaning they would have all types
Like... 3 years after the start of P2
uhm. 
We are 1.5 years in.
We got 5 rings now.
(12-5)/2 + 1.5 = 5 
Ok that would make 4 instead
Or 5
1/4th of the way until new content 
i dont doubt there is one
honestly, what are they even gonna do after the 12 rings
and how are they gonna come up with a unique mechanic for each ring
i feel like there are only so many ideas you can use
heavenly grail and WS are some pretty cool ideas, but LoA WoD and RoO are p simple tbh
...i lokey hope 8.3 is 9 weeks...
it seems like every patch is 9w now
They just redo the same mechanics that P1 valks had and make them an AR thing
which is actually more beneficial than detrimental imo, but they need to add some more stuff because it gets really dry
well unfortunately like every p1 mechanic is combined into 1 char in p2 now 
LoA is qte (fair)
WoD is glorified burst
RoO is jack of all trades wdym simple?
Uh something WA related then idk
RoO is not jack of all trades
RoO is literally just worse WoD
Vita and HoFi Trio playstyles arent the same tho
some are 8
yeah they are
in SO they are lol
the exact same thing. hypercarry-- dont switch out and use the entire SO duration.
? ? ?
I love 4s of SO
hypercarry
but no unique mechanic in the way they hypercarry
at least WoD has shadow star
RoO is just punch until die
Punch until die is everybodys objective
RoO is not hypercarry.
RoO is design as being able to fill in for any ring type.
RoO dps just play like part 1 valks but with a extra burst damage button.
im not talking about their support mechanics.
this is exclusively about SO mechanics
Then you're not talking about the ring
and RoO does not have any
even if RoO can fit everywhere its still not unique anyway xd
We have only 2 RoO dps's
1 which is just a fancier trio
1 which is uh what vita does
they both have no unique mechanic
lmao
RoO is just a boring concept, does everything but does nothing
...jack of all trades.?
master of none
shit of all actually
because RoO doesnt fit anywhere unless they have the actual tag
its just pure cope to run RoO outside of a ring where the RoO char has the specific tag
Vita provides breach for the team
thats not an RoO thing tho
that's a vita thing
and the breach is significantly weaker
They arent meant to always be the best tho
they are never the best outside of the rings they have tags for 
we literally didnt have anyone else to use
the patch after coralie was immediately rotated out
Brb
Thats the point of RoO
Jack of all trades, sometimes they're the best, sometimes they arent, but they can be fit in if u dont have any other choice
yes that in itself is a boring concept
R we talking about the gameplay or the ring itself..?
both

jack of all trades master of none concept is boring. and on top of that RoO has no SO mechanics. boring ring altogether
The SO mechanics depend on the valk tho right?
no
literally the whole point of RoO is that its extremely selfless but not selfish at all
there is nothing to it
no like
WS has resonance markers and resonance triggers
WoD has forced no swap with shadows
LoA has special qtes
ult has ult spam
RoO has nothing 
Oh
Ic
yeah WS got reso
WoD has shadow star
LoA has stellar shift
HG has SP and ult thing
RoO is just nothing
just a worse WoD in SO
Hm then ig i agree with the
"Its like a pt1 team" statment
HoFi was found in a ditch
where she belongs 
Not necessarily, it's a wildcard
breh
HoFi's SO is hella short, for example
why cant yall just admit that RoO is boring 
And the team is not WoD-like at all
Vita DPS absolutely is
spending the entire SO on the same character isnt WoD like?
trio was an already established team

look at the bright side, roo gameplay is not locked to any mechanics which means that the valk can flow however it wants to be
its just that we only have a sample of 2 roo dpses, one that was meant to be locked in trio jail if used as a leader
the other locks herself to roo probs to sell hofi and to not have too much mess of a teammates
this is arguable tho, personally i would like to see if roo as a leader will ever have other synergies
A 4 second SO is not WoD-like
Or whatever its duration is
HoH demonstrates WoD the best imo
its similar in the sense that its hypercarry centric
That's called "catching on semanthics"
and the SO isnt "technically" 4 seconds because HoFi extends it by a lot
The same way a TFD ult isn't instant 
hofi is not astra ring dependant on her dmg just bc she can only spend SO on herself tho
guys
can we just admit that RoO is a boring concept
why are we defending it with our lives
its not unique or fun 
It's uniqueness is in being generic
that's up to you honestly
ppl gave you their thoughts
Okay thats specific to u territory
"Or fun"
thats just splitting hairs
same energy as goodbye paris, hello france
a ring would also be unique if it just insta killed all the valks on your team
would still be boring 
Anyway, cuz RoO is generic Hoyo has to compensate by giving valk-specific mechanics
Short SO on HoFi and punch sequence on Vita
Yup
and yet its still boring with no mechanic
imded
....i said that earlier 
i personally say sample size is too small
Works for me
it doesn't help that hofi support is just wp and goodbye
RoO in itself doesnt do anything interesting
the valks that are part of RoO can do something interesting, but the existence of RoO on its own doesnt mean anything
gameplay wise it does depend on the valk yeah

Gotta wait for a LoA-ish RoO DPS 
why not just make them LoA at that point
Oh, wait, that's trio
Itll be in 8.10 guys
???-ish then 
where 9.0 
After 8.10
In the same place Windows 9 is
why would they do an 8.10 

imagine if the next RoO dps is just sena and shes like HoFi with og helia and coralie 
..?
Can you elaborate
forced to play og helia and coralie, unplayable with literally anyone else
Oh 
So just Vita 2.0
Ainnoway you remember that

yeah AE
I remember ever valk release (which is sad)
3.3 and beyond 
i dont even remember what patch the new sushang released in 
8.2
The real experts would know what the CN releases before 1.9 were 
Uhm im not that good
Like, obviously WC, CI and VC are 1.0
KMB is most likely too
does anyone know what astral rings the new helia supports?
No info yet
We should get it on May 8th iirc
Well she has to support the astral ring she follows right? Or am I delulu
Yes
imagine if she only supports ult ring and nobody else
Helia flashbacks
To the latter

nah hoyo surely will bait us with another ???
Very likely
ill pray for her supporting LoA because then i'd have 3 full teams instead of just helia sushang fws 😭
It's likely 
I hope she doesnt support ws and doesnt have paralyze...
Need to keep my aponia copium

wait what does this have to do with ws
they shouldve given eepy the ??? so she could help helia on para bosses 
It would of been LoA tho
It's a low chance she'll support LoA 
LoA would of been funny tho
theres no rule they cant set up valks for far away rings 

Probs would've been clunky as shit unless she goes to sleep when you swap out
Omgomfomg
Guys I’m in a silly situation
Basically I asked earlier if I should pull the new sushang, and I was basically told “wait for next patch in case, if you’re above 50 pity, use the 50% off ten pull, if you’re any lower, DONT PULL “ and I was at 84 so I figured I would apply the rule since I had 5 supply cards, and I got her. I currently have 21k crystals, should we get her gear?
didn't dudu have shadow tag?
IMAGINE IT WAS LIKE
since you have her i would get her wep personally
What's your weap pity at?
if you got sus get gear 100%
She does, and she's actually above average at that
60 so it’s none pretty much
so u can actually use sus properly
Not that average is respectable by any means ofc
You should be fine to get her weap imo
Funnily enough, I’m back at 84 LMAOO
besides if you stay active and have anything left to do you should probably be able to afford next patch fine (if recommended)
She has 2 super qtes (but like its a choice)
You super qte and you basically fall asleep, you can either cast finisher or have itty bitty chip dmg.....so basically her ult but uh u can insta finisher iyw
Thatd be funny
I’m always active so tyty good to know😝
no worries, u can check one time crystal sources to see if you have anything else to grind!
Ok I got the weapon at 34 I think so 😭 I’m at 56 now and I was lucky enough to get all her stigs, I have 9k crystals, can we come back from this chat‼️
Ur fine
awesome 
Wait I’m so sorry one last question, is it worth it to save up for mobius weapon in bp? Or should I try for sena instead
are you paying for bp?
I usually get knight yeah!
hmm can u show ur p2 valks?
Fs! Also considering vil-v since I lack quantum as a whole
DK > Sena wep if lack > anything else
Main priority from the BP would be old missing dkeys tbh 
for mobius its low prio because she's not relevant unless you wanna get it for non meta stuff
also villv is too old
your prio in the permanent shop are the dkeys that you don't have
Im weird then
what does Mobius even have?
I have the Raiden one so I’ll see if there’s others
starless Andrius?
teri shill
Everyone owned there has 4/4
there's like 4 more dkeys that aren't available anywhere rn
plus sakura and judah that are available in the exchange shop and exchange + foundry respectfully
Theres also Nue which is available nowhere besides bp 
my poorness refuses to recognize SImp as P1 supp outside of LV
But it sucks
My weaponlessnes refuses to see her as a DPS
she'll be nice for thelema, hohe and songque but for hohe and songque vita can suffice
i don't know if getting her primary for a proper thele team is worth the trouble tho since you can still use que or hohe even if not that efficient tho
okok good to know, also she’s my first bio unit😭😭
sena will do nothing to loa, roo and new rings
Thats a lie
you own CI
who..? anyways😝
at least you're set for her weathers and you're good for bleed 
smh
So sorry, how should I pair her up in teams?😭
she pairs with valks with the "heavenly shift" tag
the most useful ones esp for this weather are vita and fws
when we know her ??? tag we can tell how she'll be for the new ring but that's too early to tell as there's no info rn
I'm so screwed
So should I do songque, sush, and vita/ely?
and who does the dps😭💔
Whats the boss this time...?
🦊🔥
Holy, Hellmaru in 2025...
sushang leader
pick 2 btwn fws/vita/que/hohe
for this weather its sushang, fws, vita
in general i see vita being used, probably fws in the other slot unless the weather has any conditions that makes others like que better
in loa everyone gives their share of dps but ofc for the current bleed weather sushang is the main focus
Ty!!!

We got it last patch
Gotta slap that fox with vita robo arm again 
surely if you have thele u can try 
I ran Thele - Vita - Teri
Wait so sorry one more thing, is seraphem better or Theresa astral ops?
For that team i mean
Theresa AOP, do you already have them both or what is this about ?
Yes I have both alr
Yeah then use Teri since it gives you a second stellar shift for your leader and is the designated AOP for law of ascension
Does your Teri run HoTr stigs at least
And what was your Teri's rot
You don't want Lantern here anyway 

So what was the rot
Bonk enemy 
I'm asking for a reason 
My rotation was just bonk enemy 
Ult with Vita.
Combo with Teri.
Then just bonk with Thelema
there's no carwash here 
You see. I didn't bother checking it when I saw 7 ranked Elys. 
I'll see if it's worth it
Just thinking, to me the new AR might fit with HoRb maybe?
Though again that's just to me
Also copium

okay
From my understanding of the new AR a new VKE dkey would fit it more or even DA dkey

If the new AR is Ult based maybe
Pure cope
HoRb is also cope
really cope
2nd DK for VKE , ew
Loa fits her better 
Maybe, but vkek already have a dkey, and da already got direct replacement 
In non SO shes gonna stay in support form and spam qte like crazy, then in SO she switch to dps form and deal massive dmg

sounds kinda weird 
Tho new ring also seems good because ur gonna spam ult in dps form 
who knows i just want dkey of some kind because even with the full 12/12 team against mech enemies this is feeling kinda sus 
VKE doesn't seem to fit new AR, her SP consumption ratio is very slow and low, while new ring may want fast SP consumption for buffs 
DA dkey
Helia be like
i wonder how the new ring will be like in MA since you don't start with ult ready at the spot lol
the valks need to have high sp generation if its gonna feel good
AA until 100sp

then Helia should have initial SP on leader skill
Or u know, make the ar tag and the locked skills gives starting sp

yeah that sounds reasonable
ult cost reduction, and not like every p2 valk can use ult from the start
hmm

damn that team goes crazy
I'll still be happy with either or
Just hopingcoping she has Heavenly Shift 
hoyo finally removed lantern from the recommendation?
hoyo finally removes lamp everywhere when
lampwho
lampyou
This is still a terrible team suggestion
HoHE is worse than Lantern as a WoD support
The proper pick is still Sena Vita
they thought " people play thelema dps outside of SO on HoHe dps bosses so she must be leader "
hoyo dumb dumb
yuh ik, i don't trust hoyo's own recommendations 
that would be funny actually
I think it’s more like "in case you don’t have a 3rd loa character" but yeah it’s weird
Both Ely and Thele are WoD leads
Oh right my bad
8.4 is anni?
8.5 
2 months
It was comfirmed to be 9 and 8? 

one is 8, the other is 9.
which is which is unknown
Please please please let it be
9, 8 and not 8, 9
I need 900 days during helia banner
wouldn't affect it.
Banners are first 6 weeks
Here i have Kiana and HoH new gears.
So would I go. Helia/Kiana/HoH?
Or perhaps something like Helia/Kiana/Sparkle?
Sparkle doesn't work
Thanks

wait anni for?
CN server anniv, but that's 8.5
That mean global also having one or was that 8.1 for us?
Global is celebrated same patch as CNY
Ah so we've had it already
We have same rewards (minus some stuff like emblems)
It will just be renamed for en servers
Oh so there is another one?
Same patch content, just renamed
This also meaning top up refresh?
Topup refresh is on feb/march patch
Hihi marisa 

There word if theres going to be a cross over event this year?
I would love another HSR one and they give Acheron - Firefly
Acheron is just the strongest Mei fr
can we not waste one of our yearly slots on a collab after they removed 30% of yearly patches
2x Banners sounds great....
Just need them to drop the free character like they did with HoHe recently
but hohe being free is a scheduled thing
wasn't the one before Origin
1s wtf 
no it was hos
Origin was free twice
her release being the first time 
Never played back when the story was being released and missed 2nd as started in 7.9 with HoHe drop
when was second time
7.4
Is getting at least the Knight BP worth it now? Like for extra crystal income aside from monthly crystals?
yes
Omg They should give htr for free soon 
id rather get hofi
....id rather get htr
How much crystals increased from previous bp system?
Besides HoFi has more usage than htr
Silverwing will give more HSR crumbs/fanservice than HoTr
They wont give her for free
Outside of boxes obv
Oh wait, you're referring to free character card.
Yeah
I thought DK DLC. Nvm, it's 2am here lmao
asp hotr will be in the permanent bp sooo
Oh right... reserve works got up to 6.0. Valks starting from 6.1 should be added there soon. And HoTr was released 6.3
When will Lantern and Songque get outfits. Maid Lantern during CNY/GLB Anniv where it's also February (Valentine's) should have happened. 💔
Like imagine Lantern firing hearts going chu~
I have a ticket
How many for knight?
So i need to save
Ohhh. Hmmmmm
3/16/22
Sena is already there. Thelema soon will be there too hmmm
9 weeks patch with only 3 f2p orbs (+2 from dorm) 
I wanna SSS ely... when will she be farmable in War Treasury or even Elysian Shop
8.2 sena
8.3 lv sena
8.4 ?¹ Lv sena
8.5 ?¹ ?² Lv
8.6 ?¹ ?² ?³
8.7 ?² ?³ ?⁴

I'm also torn where to spend orbs I'll be hoarding. like i want sss thelema, but vita also... and i don't have spork nor dudu. dmn
garuda maybe 8.4
then the shu trio(?) 8.5~8.7?
Smol dudu needs to drop in BP shop fr so many uses for her
can't do, she needs to rerun to get profit and milk more players

i fear a lantern skin isn't gonna sell that well either 😔 unless there's a lot of lamp fans that will go for it in a heartbeat
if she does get an outfit that would be cool tho
Free lantern outfit with her SSS form will be a good "free outfit"
They will most likely invest in Songque for a gacha or bchips one
maybe event outfit 
yeah
Her damaged clothes shouldn't be hard for them to release as skin too, it could pass as summer outfit loljk
atp give her a normal summer outfit 😭
her clothing is alr too ripped in her boss version
wdym she's popular
many ppl wait her maid outfit

is she, in cn at least?
ye
i see, i barely hear ppl talking about her in glblul
You can also include Sena for 8.4, also I'm pretty sure the chara system is still the same for Bp
At least I didn't see any infos yet saying that this system would change









