🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[hoary mountain]

Is it weird how i saw this right after i found new Mobius fanart?

[terse tinsel]

Snek Year

Also source please

[feral epoch]

the source is on the image

[terse tinsel]

Oh yeah...

[willow perch]

beaned

[gleaming imp]

Mobius is so 🛐

Should've been me

[naive briar]

go #📿gacha-salt🧂

[plucky cradle]

[thick prawn]

[terse ravine]

i'd argue HY gets revenge over the hate bandwagon where 70% of them haters don't or no longer play the game

But i really wish artbook event is back for other servers

[exotic osprey]

It was a gradual thing in fact

During the 2nd one

They changed the list of countries they ship to and made it smaller

[short knoll]

not sure about that, JP got like 7.5k book iirc? they could cut the book number in other server if not enough player

GLB could be too big and too far but there shouldnt be any problem with SEA

[steep axle]

Glb got 12.5k per server

Eu na 12.5k sea 25k

Also did jp get artbooks on sea cn anniv or will get on 8.1 like glb

[short knoll]

no news for the book in any other server

8k vol 2 for JP

[steep axle]

Are there many people on jp

[terse ravine]

Should be ~2w before update?

[short knoll]

no idea

[terse ravine]

I remember news usually come along with beta test open, but let's see

^ (actually impatient)

[naive briar]

unlike English version, JP art book vol 2 is not for sale

[plucky cradle]

[unique swallow]

[rain spindle]

if no art book next patch, I riot

[feral epoch]

sure

[somber egret]

and still no art book

[naive briar]

and cabbage still rotten

[willow perch]

Birb still cute

[near comet]

How much AW and AL are needed to buy Mobius' character card from WT ?

[short knoll]

we will get 2 artbook next year trust

vol 3 & 4

[muted mauve]

You aren't celebrating either. The new anniversary is part 2 release date

[short knoll]

lame, almost no one remember the start of p2 when talking about anni

actually no one remember the release date of the game either, anni is just big reward

[grand viper]

I remember the start of p2
I pulled for crossbow pri shill
(and then went almost broke)

[naive briar]

carv already put the anni rearrange in dummy terms

[short knoll]

yes ppl do remember 7.3, but not in context of anni

[umbral spoke]

more as the destruction of p1 right?

or at least the start of it

[grand viper]

I don't even remember much of what happened last ani

[umbral spoke]

idk i wish i was there to know

but i joined like a week after anni stuff was over

[grand viper]

all I rememebr was cny lobby and fall girls I think

[umbral spoke]

wasnt fall girls later?

[grand viper]

fall girls happened multiple times last year

[arctic phoenix]

yo guys was this event supposed to be like this cuz I played this before and I can remebmer clearly that you can clear the vollerei stage easily but now I can't

[umbral spoke]

oh

[muted mauve]

@naive briar

[grand viper]

[spice summit]

Man vita's skin is really good

[umbral spoke]

yeah so good it had to be paid with pyramid, but understandable

[grand viper]

I played fall girls daily to max the event currency to farm coins but I no longer need to do that

[feral epoch]

not paid

[umbral spoke]

WAIT WHAT

[spice summit]

Isn't it a gacha costume

[umbral spoke]

yeah it's gacha

but lets not kid ourselves here, if you didn't save for multiple patches you won't have xtals

[naive briar]

welp thanks

[spice summit]

I need to decided two out of three between kiana, ely dkey, or vita skin

[umbral spoke]

so it's essentially paid

[grand viper]

farm harder and get all 3

or just get lucky

[spice summit]

I would

[umbral spoke]

my choice is kiana and thelema wep

[spice summit]

I'd win

[nova osprey]

Kiana and ely dkey

[umbral spoke]

unless I win raffle in an hour

[nova osprey]

[umbral spoke]

then maybe teri aop

[muted mauve]

welp?

[spice summit]

Be like me ||won 70 gems from 7 letter||

[grand viper]

[spice summit]

Most likely yeah

[umbral spoke]

oh hell naw at least gimme the affix box

[spice summit]

[grand viper]

won the paladin bp ticket so now I have both the knight and paladin bp tickets in my inventory

[umbral spoke]

haven't done NA yet though, got no total data from it

[spice summit]

Nah I'd still find a chance to lose

[umbral spoke]

let me guess, big valk box

[naive briar]

emotional damage
also I like how Vita's existence dyes the outfit black

[spice summit]

I did 3 valk box, 3 wep box

1 big box

[umbral spoke]

eh, i mean fair

[spice summit]

My luck only exists in the actual gacha, not some lottery bs

[umbral spoke]

I did 6 in weapon, 1 in affix

my chances aren't much better

[winter pumice]

I won all the boxes actually

[steep axle]

How the hell are eu odds lower than sea

[grand viper]

damn should've been me fr

[junior nova]

Isn't this not allowed in this channel or am I crazy

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message

[nova osprey]

Ur crazy

[umbral spoke]

good reminder

[junior nova]

[umbral spoke]

sry im not frequent in here enough

[nova osprey]

[grand viper]

true, only come in here to read about the next doompost or bait valk details
and occasionally check the pins

[umbral spoke]

eh i hate doomposting

beyond reason most of the time

[grand viper]

that was a joke

[umbral spoke]

okay phew

[nova osprey]

Its fun tho

[umbral spoke]

i mean i get it, people freaking out over beta changes

[nova osprey]

[umbral spoke]

just wait for final

[naive briar]

not quite a joke since doomposting do happen

[grand viper]

skill multiplier lowering from 2% to 1% is a real cause for concern indeed

[prisma tartan]

[umbral spoke]

concern for what? just change priorities if it's that bad

[grand viper]

[prisma tartan]

ches the doomposter

[grand viper]

true its all ches' fault

in non gacha games, I'd care about nerfs or buffs during betas but in gacha games, I'd rather just wait for final release because it is what it is

[naive briar]

we regularly see people calling for eos in this server and some are not joking
Really want to show them what happened in HG2
some f2p players had been dooming the game and asked for eos
then when eos happened they cried saying how they supported the game as a long timr loyal f2p

[prisma tartan]

[grand viper]

[copper shale]

they the same tho, both games

[short knoll]

idk, seem like they are joking to me

[naive briar]

I don't really care. noises

[copper shale]

i mean its not 2% to 1%, but it indeed is sometimes 50% cut for some stuff

[grand viper]

I know that, I said 2% to 1% because I don't take the beta changes all that seriously

[copper shale]

well anyways u taking it srs or not does not affect the fact that these changes still occur, and that following these changes is sometimes interesting for those ppl who do pay attention to the beta stuff

[umbral spoke]

yeah ofc

the changes interest me too

on release you very rarely see another balancing change on any hoyo game

the only one I have in mind is zhongli on g game

really weak on release, so they buffed the hell out of him

[glass nacelle]

in hi3, it isn't rarely bro

look SK and Meme buff

[umbral spoke]

i wasn't there when those happened so i can't know

[glass nacelle]

[hard meadow]

problem with gacha they cant nerf the character

cause then ppl riot they paid for something and then it got nerfed

so unless its a very clear bugfix then can only buff

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

bringbackMeme2025

[abstract night]

StFu was also buffed

[sinful crown]

[thick prawn]

[umbral spoke]

jesus that's a rework not a buff

[abstract night]

Wait it used to be a 30% chance to freeze? 💀
U whaled for SSS
And have a 30% chance for it to proc

(Im pretty sure its sss rank but please correct me if im wrong)

[glass nacelle]

rework = new gameplay, animation,... . Where are they

just add more effect

[umbral spoke]

all new skillset is a rework

mechanically

[glass nacelle]

they just buff scale and more effect

[abstract night]

Why not just call it a rework buff

[feral epoch]

isn't PRI version is buff before

[umbral spoke]

it's a rework, no need to invent a new fancy term for it

[abstract night]

Id probably call it a buff

The kit was just tweaked so it feels better to play, like sena and her gazillion buffs

[verbal mountain]

1 buff

and the change that made her gameplay feel less shit

idk where gazillion sena buffs originated from

[umbral spoke]

"[new skill effect]" also heavy number tweaks. This is a skill rework.

[verbal mountain]

[abstract night]

Ill just call it a rework buff.

[umbral spoke]

sure its a buff in the end, but still a rework most and firstmost

for adding more mechanics

it's like elfs getting astral ring, that's also kind of a rework for them

as they function differently

[verbal mountain]

there are a lot of new skill effects
I feel like there can be lesser kit updates that can also be called "reworks" so this definitely falls under it

if you wanna call it a buff it is also a buff so it's not wrong to call it that

[umbral spoke]

yeah i didn't say it's wrong

[verbal mountain]

just putting out my view

[umbral spoke]

anyone know what that thing even is on coralie's head? just a funny headgear I hope

[hard meadow]

it's her familiar

[naive briar]

doggo butt

[somber egret]

x mark for de—

[naive briar]

your bottom

[somber egret]

[naive briar]

no joke cabbage keeper is a tool that stabs the cabbage bottom in order to prolong freshness
now...

when will we get p2 AI chan

[copper shale]

how does it keep it fresh

[winter dirge]

Keep that thing away from me! I'm plenty fresh!

[prisma tartan]

by being cute

[naive briar]

Keep your hands away from my gacha rolls.

[winter dirge]

Keep your hands away from that "cabbage keeper" D:

[naive briar]

Depends on my outcome for the next banner

[muted mauve]

[somber egret]

Cabbage Cruelty

[naive briar]

cabbage grows a bit after being cut off but it will use the energy it already has.
It will get a bit bigger but less fresh and decay in quality as a food
this destroy the core and stops growth

[naive briar]

ban AI chan first

[muted mauve]

both

[pearl rain]

is HoFs being added in WT?

[foggy tendon]

yes!

[pearl rain]

AW or AL?

[fervent hinge]

AL

[pearl rain]

ty

[small wing]

How much longer do we glb nerds need to wait for the raffle

[abstract night]

12 a clock server time

[tired cliff]

glb slow like turtle

[dreamy pendant]

When is this getting updated

We missing quite a bit of 4* weapons that would be cool to be able to obtain from here

i think am the last person on this planet who still cares about standard banner 4* stig and weapons

[edgy drift]

Not like it matters if they add gear to dorm supply lmao

The drop rates are abysmal

Just get them from exchange

Or foundry

[glass nacelle]

huh

don't forget to buy it

[tepid light]

[naive briar]

are you posting something you don't understand or is that a question

[tepid light]

Q

That's for Questions

[naive briar]

the answwer is not cn gameplay

[tepid light]

Okay...

[abstract night]

I WANT NUEEE
they never added it

[final locust]

what is it

[final locust]

o'clock*

[glass nacelle]

you use it in chibi room

12 crys

[abstract night]

That totally like matters not

[nova osprey]

Thats gonna annoy me, my xtal count not ending in a 0 or 5

[glass nacelle]

homu blessing

[glass nacelle]

kek

[nova osprey]

Surely i can just not take the last 2 xtals and just get 400

[wind void]

is there a Lantern banner rerun during 8.1 ?

[distant lagoon]

yes in form of celebration supply

[hoary mountain]

yesn't?

shes on the anniversary supply that rapidly rotates

[wind void]

oh ? i'm guessing we're having the same 10-pull tickets like last time

[hoary mountain]

yep

[dense harness]

Is there any info on notable Bchips bundles for spending ?

[atomic peak]

Idk if I should get HoO ranks or HoHe ranks with that box

Either SS2 HoHe or SS1 HoO

[glass nacelle]

hoh ofc

[edgy drift]

You should not take that box is the correct option

[atomic peak]

[hoary mountain]

i reccomend you post this in #📿gacha-salt🧂 instead before mods rearrange your organs

no gurantee on which ones will go where

[atomic peak]

[glass nacelle]

[stoic fern]

THAT THEME.. TAIXUAN?

i need to save harder..

[naive briar]

ARC

[unique swallow]

Arc too expensive. Cheebee fund me

[stoic fern]

that one beside arc

[naive briar]

all the limited. but go for arc because yes

[stoic fern]

its been 4 yrs and i havet got it yet.. i hae to now

[stoic fern]

too espensive

[unique swallow]

2580 bchips...

[muted mauve]

chibi funding ?

[unique swallow]

Cheebee funding

[naive briar]

user not exist

[muted mauve]

[unique swallow]

[quasi jolt]

Anyone know what's in the next BP/supply shop

[cinder cloak]

HoRb

Supply Shop: Added Herrscher of Human and Lunar Vow stamps. Removed Dreamweaver and Herrscher of Truth stamps. Adjusted the Max ATK affix limit to 2.

[quasi jolt]

And likely LV after

[dry delta]

am i still spammer

[atomic peak]

S2 LV here I come

[wild citrus]

Does the next patch keep the same BP valks as the current one? Hare and HoTr?

[wild citrus]

Oh

[odd tinsel]

is 8.2 out yet, i hope its Firelia

[verbal mountain]

8.1 just came out in cn

and it's 9 weeks

[dense harness]

Thx

[junior nova]

Arc city bridge.. I'm coming for you !!

[junior nova]

||Marisahonkai suspects it's sushang because of a cutscene in 8.1||

[small wing]

how big is the dps difference between SS DS and SS teriri aop

[rain isle]

For LoA? S Teri should already be a noticeable difference since she allows for another super QTE

[small wing]

Is the difference big enough to make just going for her S rank version worth it

[hard meadow]

It's a huge difference

Almost might as well not pull any loa valks if no teri

[small wing]

Lmao??????

Ig I'll nab at least one copy of her then

[abstract night]

Is Kiana HoH Vita good?
And is
HoH Teri/Sena/Vita good?

[spice summit]

Fr?

[small wing]

Glad to know S rank teri is apparently that worth it lol

[abstract night]

Im 5 till so yippe

[spice summit]

So I should get teri aop?

[rain isle]

Idk if I'd say what Paul said, personally

But Teri aop does provide a noticeable boost to LoA valks.

[spice summit]

Seems like I gotta give up on ely dkey for now

[hard meadow]

If you completely removed the double super QTE skill from teri she would alr be as powerful as songque/serapeum

It's just insane

[spice summit]

My only aop is DS

I might aswell grab a new one tbh

[hard meadow]

At least it's alr at S rank

[spice summit]

Who?

Teri?

[hard meadow]

Yea

[spice summit]

Great

Pulling for aop is kinda sadge tbh but whatever

[versed garden]

I have to say that it does make your life a lot more comfortable having one

to the minimum useful rank at least (ari regen unlocked)
Sera's been quite a boon despite being S

[gleaming imp]

I'm skipping new kiana since I'd rather wait since there's a chance that this isn't the kiana that the older hofin looking kiana is

[gleaming imp]

I will do half multi on her though

[abstract night]

[gleaming imp]

New kiana skip since new teriteri aop also skip

[abstract night]

Teri op is good for LoA

You'd have a full kiana team

Kiana HoH LP

[gleaming imp]

That's why it's a skip I can't afford a teriteri aop

[abstract night]

U dont need teri op in a3

[hard meadow]

Kiana needs Aunt Teri's help to bang those drums!

[abstract night]

Kiana wants teri?

[fast quarry]

Is the evaluations that high? Surely F2P still wont need it right?

[gleaming imp]

I'm RL, and I'm positive every new kiana haver is also pulling for new teriteri aop since p1 nostalgia sells like hot cakes

[hard meadow]

Is LoA ofc

[abstract night]

Is FWS HoH LP a good kiana team tho?

And HoH with SCI/LP/DAFL

[fast quarry]

I certainly wont be pulling aops cuz ill be broke should still be able to retain nirv though

[hard meadow]

ofc nothing is needed but you will certainly lose against someone who has teri. unless you massively outskill them

if f2p need or not depend if other f2p decide to pull

[fast quarry]

Ez. Tell other f2p not to pull

Alright i got the gist of it. So nothing will change then ty

[hard meadow]

you could also tell them all not to pull weapons then nobody need to pull weapon and dont have to skip character banners

[fast quarry]

You’re cooking something

[verbal mountain]

pretty good

[abstract night]

HoH Sena/Vita/teri?

[verbal mountain]

HoH + Sena + Vita
it's not gonna be great without thel but it'll work (sometimes)

if you need a lot of rime it might be cooked

[abstract night]

I cant afford her

[hard meadow]

if boss need freeze like heph or something then your ely useless without lema

if not need then can survive

[abstract night]

I can run HoH Kira..

[verbal mountain]

[abstract night]

[verbal mountain]

better than no freeze

but garbage

[abstract night]

HoH Kira Vita

[verbal mountain]

atp you might be better off running p1 ely if your jk and kira are geared

and if your ely has p1 gear ofc

[abstract night]

Kira 4/4 SSS
JK 3/4 SS

[abstract night]

Yuh

[verbal mountain]

what are you missing on JK

[abstract night]

M

[verbal mountain]

cooked against shields

[abstract night]

Own paga M

[edgy drift]

nah that's just not true

first version yeah she had the exact same passive buff as Sera for SS

it got nerfed to a third of it tho

Doesn't mean she's not good tho she's cracked, but the qte is the main reason for it

[hard meadow]

Exactly

And that alr at S so very reachable for even f2p

[edgy drift]

S seems enough for LoA yeah, SS is more so a big difference for Vita (and SSS is a decent upgrade to both)

[hard meadow]

Vita dps days alr feel like only a memory

[distant lagoon]

i think someone has a bad feeling for time

[strange lintel]

How much xtals did y'all win from event?

[short knoll]

can wait for 8.2 news before pulling ely gear, sushang is a big candidate for 8.2, she should be ice, may or may not be new ely support

would be funny if she overshadow hoh instead

[gleaming imp]

If it's sushang that would mean another p1 cast Valk in p2, p2 cast bad? since last one was songque

[hard meadow]

There is still Ajita and chenxue at least. And leylah. Helia new form

[verbal mountain]

god sena!!

[abstract night]

They dont wanna release the good units

So soon

[gleaming imp]

But the p1 cast is the good units

[lilac jungle]

did u have some kind of hate to p2 ?, i mean, the story wasnt event that long for part 2, also its need time to introduce a new character, not that easy, all of that p2 character that released is have a fighter background, while Ajita still not because she is more into to a non fighter, but still dunno tho

the story is still developing

also if you think p2 cast is bad, what about thelema that still relevant untill this time

dev never said that they will delete all of p1 character when p2 is released, why need to have such a argument, p2 released doesnt mean that, its just different story with different place

[gleaming imp]

Thelema bait easy skip would rather use HoR once the p2 p1 ice support valk drops

[lilac jungle]

oh okay, i see now, im just gonna stop

[gleaming imp]

My ely is gonna suffer on bosses that needs major rime since I’m thelemaless

[atomic coral]

guess you're still using kira then

[gleaming imp]

My Kira 0/4 on EoP 3pc bronya, I could craft M Bastet though

[mild owl]

idc how braindead it is i'm skipping kiana to backpull thel

[atomic coral]

guess youre using pardo

[gleaming imp]

I hope I get her for free

[abstract night]

[copper shale]

it should only be a minor increase vs songque for vita

the ar regen speed is the same

at sss it deals less dmg than songque during SO, but slightly more dmg if you do one full rotation

[fervent hinge]

I'll be very happy if I can pull Teri as well as HoH dkey +3 SS would be a dream honestly

[gleaming imp]

+3 dkey?

[fervent hinge]

Yeah

[still condor]

HoV needs that 20 attack buff bro

[fervent hinge]

^^

[gleaming imp]

Makes sense

[still condor]

shes gonna hit 1700 soon trust

[gleaming imp]

Then once horb dkey drops a extra +20 atk

[fervent hinge]

Kek, need another year or two

Praying they release some more farmable dkeys for sync like abyss and fhp

[still condor]

whats her max after ely dkey

[fervent hinge]

1650

[still condor]

damn

just needs 3 more dkeys then

[fervent hinge]

With DoV SAsc

Yeah not far

Hoyo give us 1 new free dkey pls

Or just release more gacha ones I really don't give a shit

I want atk

[terse ravine]

oof i also dont pull all Mars cast but at least 4/4 SSS Kira 🫂

[gleaming imp]

[terse ravine]

Kira so mighty OP never regret pulling her gears day 1

[gleaming imp]

Will you be going for hofin adv for the ss2?

[terse ravine]

no

[gleaming imp]

hofin ranks not needed for you?

[terse ravine]

i will Syn3 HoH Dkey, i have to. maybe S Badum after that.

tho i want Teri AOP just cuz Teri

too much want, but have luck issue

[gleaming imp]

I also have bad luck my senadina and horb on 7.3 were hard pity basically

[terse ravine]

how long is Teri AOP banner? Badum lasts 6 weeks so i can prioritize later (34 pity guarantee)

[gleaming imp]

6 weeks

[terse ravine]

oh 6w as well great

Syn3 HoH DKey > S Badum + weap > Teri AOP

my prio

[terse ravine]

i want but not desperately need

[gleaming imp]

I’m personally going for ely dk > eepy Teri weapon > hofin adv since my funds atm is 83k and waiting for eepy Teri adv and my ely is SS2 atm and my hofin is s2 atm and my hotruth is s0 so hofin ranks will carry for lack of s2 and SS hotruth

[terse ravine]

83k

[gleaming imp]

Also 24 focus cards

[terse ravine]

[gleaming imp]

And 15 soon from 1200 log in

[static crag]

whos the valk prize in the next spending event?

[copper shale]

wats that?

[gleaming imp]

Horb, if you mean skin then LV

[static crag]

ty

[solar surge]

wait, really?
Fits the pattern (next Herrscher after HoFin), but still
ouch

[short knoll]

free S2 horb

then horb dkey

tho i dont expect horb key before 8.4

[still vine]

good i can save up then

[unique ferry]

all of them are 4/4 and im pulling kiana 4/4 next. what should be my priorities in terms of ely dk, hofi dk and teri op

[short knoll]

not teri ofc

[gleaming imp]

Ely dk then hofin dk then teriteri aop

Ely and hofin dk = +20 attack and two characters you can use for p2

[short knoll]

get ely key and skip other 2

hofi key is nice but has limited use for your account, can't dps, only vita support, while vita dps isnt as prominent, maybe good for next RoO but you can just wait for next rerun

[unique ferry]

alr tysm

[rustic stump]

I wish that Hoyo makes more AR DKs for other battlesuits like SW, LV and FoV, because I know that HoRb is probably gonna get one next.

And it sounds dumber than handing out a DK for SW or FoV, but a 2nd DK for HoS (because I couldn’t get the first one 😭) would be nice, but that’s asking too much for a gacha company

[gleaming imp]

I see it more likely for SW to be buffed like HoO did, fov dkey is possible since current fu hua in story is fov

[rustic stump]

How would SW be buffed? With APHO Mei on the same team? That sounds stupid lol but believable

[gleaming imp]

They did it for hoo

[delicate reef]

Hello, can I ask? How do people play the CN version of the game on PC? Theres no PC Download option for Bilibili, so I suspect people use emulators or?

[plucky cradle]

https://www.bh3.com

[delicate reef]

can I use bilibili login there?

[plucky cradle]

idk

[rustic stump]

I know, but for SW that’s stupid. She’s currently the Adult Bronya model; she should get a better buff than that. Having HoS get a buff from HoBr with DK on the same team makes more sense

[gleaming imp]

Both

[rustic stump]

Both?

[gleaming imp]

Make apho mei buff SW and make horb dkey set buff senti

[plucky cradle]

moon ring outside apho when

[rustic stump]

I rather have SW and HoS get AR DKs, but I know Hoyo wants us t focus on the Martians and Kaslanas meta wise

[solar surge]

focus on the Martians? They keep killing the visitors or depowering them to a cycle
Susper Saiyan Salsa Lantern wen mhy?

[rustic stump]

Hey, it’s on all Hoyoverse for all of this decisions

[plucky cradle]

kill all Martians

destroy Mars return to p1

[plucky cradle]

nvm they all ded alrd lmao

[rustic stump]

When Moon Rings are revealed to be inspired by the Astral Rings and that the Astral Rings and Moon Rings function the same meta wise

[gleaming imp]

We already returned to p1, we haven't gotten a p2 cast Valk since songque

[plucky cradle]

true we had enhanced QTE and ult in apho so it's basically beta for astral ring

that crosstag qte was pretty cool I hope they add that to AR soon

[rustic stump]

Yeah I know. It’s obvious the Moon Rings mechanics are the prototype for the ARs

[plucky cradle]

(and then they'll require us to pull two valks continuously for the crosstag to work)

[solar surge]

it's over, bananakin
p2 can jump
they have the high ground

[rustic stump]

Or they’ll add new tags retroactively to some early pt 2 valks

[rustic stump]

No, that can’t be! 😭

[glass nacelle]

no pls, atk gap is big

[solar surge]

spicy helia with a div key?
Sena who upgrades from yoyo to Pog cards?

[gleaming imp]

But new dks good for us p1 boomers since we have Valk for them already

[rustic stump]

Couldn’t thst be easily fixed with making them all supports on pt 2 teams?

[solar surge]

"you underestimate my powah creep!"

[glass nacelle]

nope, 20 atk is too much right now

[rustic stump]

Who knows 🤷🏾‍♀️

[rustic stump]

How? Pls explain

[still condor]

every time they add a part 2 dkey, they add 20 global attack that applies to your entire account

if you pull only synergy 1 you only got 10 atk

if you dont pull at all youre already 20 atk behind

[glass nacelle]

Imagine having 5 dkey, you lose 50 ATK compared to those with Synergy 3

[solar surge]

I thought the only pt 2 div keys were Kiana gun and Ely bow?
wait, people have synergy 3 of either of those!?
I thought the only way to get those was to pull 90 on weapon supply...

[still condor]

its not 90, its 60 just like all the other p2 weps

[rustic stump]

So they add buffs and debuffs to the account based on how many DKs you get? Why?

[still condor]

its not debuffs

if everyone except for you has a synergy 3 dkey, you will have 20 less atk on all your valks

and the only way to catch up is by pulling that dkey 3 times

[quasi glen]

Whale gap get bigger because each new p2 dkey is -10 atk for non sy3-ers

[rustic stump]

And what’s the point of this mechanic?

[still condor]

global attack that applies to every single valkyrie past and future

[glass nacelle]

lock atk in synergy is stupid

[still condor]

whale bait for 'free' attack

[solar surge]

ah, fair enough
same diff, my Sena's still using Value of Pi

[still condor]

because you can only get so much attack through ranks and affixes, but if they keep adding new dkeys, they can whale for more attack

[rustic stump]

I get it for the ones who you can use to buff your teams up in the DK tab, but why for thr other DKs that are for one character only?

[rustic stump]

Really?

[still condor]

yes

affixes cap out at 23 atk per affix, every valk has a cap on the maximum attack they can reach

every new p2 dkey gives them 20 more atk on that maximum, which you need to pull 3 weapons for

[rustic stump]

Even for the ones who are incompatible with the weap?

[still condor]

its a global atk buff

it applies to literally every single valk in the entire game

[atomic coral]

the atk boost is for everyone in your account

[still condor]

if you pull HoH dkey and get it to synergy 3, even white comet will gain 20 atk

[rustic stump]

Is this a leftover mechanic from pt 1?

[rustic stump]

I only have syn 1 Waxing Moon

[still condor]

its been a thing for a long time, p1 dkeys would give 10 atk, but p2 dkeys give 20 because of synergy

[rustic stump]

I legit thought that only was a thing for the first 4 dkeys of pt1

[atomic coral]

no it's every dkey

[rustic stump]

Wild

Is this why only a few among the super popular valks even get replacements weaps in the game, and there’s no non DK weap replacements in the game?

[glass nacelle]

in part 1 it is related to lore/story, but in part 2 stellar key is not

[rustic stump]

So when did Senti get a brick in story?

[still condor]

she created it herself
its the 2nd dkey she made

[rustic stump]

What ch?

[solar surge]

see also Might of a Tutu
does anybody use a Greatsword? No
Is it good to have at 50 Tuna? Statistically, yes
but Kia was never very good at stats
it's a dismal science, and herrschers have too much hope for macro-economics

[still condor]

i dont remember what it was about, but there was a short little brick thingy on release

[glass nacelle]

idk if it's still there atm

[still condor]

dont think you can see it ingame anymore

[glass nacelle]

maybe hos tutorial

[rustic stump]

Why do you sound s weap description right now?

[rustic stump]

I never saw this in thr game before, but I already knew she made it because of the weap description

[glass nacelle]

[atomic coral]

i know the brick tutorial is in hos's character trial

[rustic stump]

It is?

[atomic coral]

yeah, it's called testing blade

[solar surge]

wait, really? Awesome! I thought it was an event
also, great Kirby pfp btw

[plucky cradle]

help what the fck

[glass nacelle]

kek

[plucky cradle]

[glass nacelle]

Will I lose points if I'm in the top 6?

[plucky cradle]

yes

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

or top 4 5

[copper shale]

i saw this earlier

[plucky cradle]

wow touch some grass

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/597164620922486784/1312427474323374151/caption.gif?ex=679d8915&is=679c3795&hm=de4e9a03044cc9952fa336c39454ece046a5367ffe38906971fd1bb8c6fdaacc&

[glass nacelle]

maybe this is why this patch lasts 9 weeks

[plucky cradle]

why

I'm so lazy to do the chatroom

tho I might be missing out on xtals

[glass nacelle]

just hard

[plucky cradle]

no friends

[glass nacelle]

friendless in 2025

[atomic coral]

yeah, the story for brick is there

[gleaming imp]

I wish hot and hor and hos dkeys were delayed til post p2 so I can use them in p2

[naive briar]

https://x.com/HonkaiImpact3rd/status/1885176183878193483

Honkai Impact 3rd (@HonkaiImpact3rd) on X

Recruiting v8.1 Testers

Greetings, Captains! To welcome v8.1 and Kiana's new S-rank battlesuit Ba-Dum! Fiery Wishing Star, HQ has specially prepared a test server!

Please visit the in-game announcement to access the survey.
#HonkaiImpact3rd #Kiana

X · Jan 31, 2025, 4:00 AM

ends the dooming

[gleaming imp]

[solar surge]

ends the dooming
if only, if only...

[naive briar]

I have no power to force people to have reading ability

[glass nacelle]

beta 1 week kek

[willow pumice]

No way there's teamfight tactics patch note

[rustic stump]

How can I find the trail right now?

[rustic stump]

What day does 8.1 comes out?

[nova osprey]

Look at the calender in pins

[solar surge]

find the trail? right now?
Hot on the Trail is a different event, and it unlocks one week at a time, and it's not very fun anyway

[atomic coral]

attack > challenge >character trials > battlesuit trial VII > testing blade

[rustic stump]

I meant trial

[glass nacelle]

wow balance in 2025

[rustic stump]

Thanks

[rustic stump]

I can’t find the info

[rustic stump]

Thanks

[terse ravine]

MORISO, that note under drumming Kiana

pienful

[glass nacelle]

[grand viper]

+1 box

[nova osprey]

In the s rank box are senti sn and nyx?

[somber egret]

Yes

[glass nacelle]

[nova osprey]

Cool

100 frags for senti

[solar surge]

god, Vita always looks so dang comfy
not smug, not like she wants to hurt anyone
buut this weird sort of "this is nice, I can make it work"

[short knoll]

vita outfit look good but her mech is a huge let down

[glass nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WE9NbzKS0Y

[hazy seal]

when the valk box is people who were tangled up in Vita's schemes

[glass nacelle]

vitasmug emoji when

[naive briar]

Art disapproved Vita emotes

[glass nacelle]

[urban cloud]

Still not sure whether to pull outfit

[solar surge]

vita not smug
vita better than smug
vita comfy

otto was smug
vita beet up otto

[grand viper]

[somber egret]

Outfit = +9999999 ATK

[urban cloud]

[solar surge]

need moar room for a dozen Roza and Sakura emotes right next to each other, each
(I'll forgive the thirty Teri teri emotes, she looks like every Kaslana)

still, we have but no :duongue: anything...

[willow perch]

Dounigue belongs in Doom universe

His boss music is straight from Eternal ngl

[solar surge]

I duongraded my computer and now I can't even run 2016

[willow perch]

[solar surge]

these things crash
and then we get a reasonable refurb
and then we go to work...

[naive briar]

Dounigue in ZZZ

[gleaming imp]

Vita is so 🛐

[solar surge]

they're already fluffy, what more can zzz want?

[somber egret]

fluffier

[naive briar]

doggo butt

[solar surge]

fluffier?
the world is not ready for gacha Pomeranians
Kirby tried a Prince Fluff, and the franchise died until Robobutt
bot, if we rioted for Corapupper, imagine if her dog-type were even cuter

[small wing]

So does Kiana actually outscore sonque in SD tonaiuth

Or is this just a case of reusing one boss/weather combo cause it's easier than making more than 1 new boss

[somber egret]

New Kiana scores 50 more points

but obviously you need Songque in that team

[small wing]

Who's the other support?

[somber egret]

Vita

[small wing]

[somber egret]

score diff becomes larger with S2 Kiana and even with SS Songque, still not even close

[small wing]

Yeah that's not too surprising

Songque anims long

[urban cloud]

Does sparkle support SD kiana well btw?

[final locust]

yes

but the ult cdr is p much wasted on kiana and thats her biggest utility

[urban cloud]

Ah

[final locust]

since kiana ult isnt really that important

so that also kinda makes her sp regen redundant

so tldr sparkle good but not best for kiana in most places

[small wing]

I assume her best options are dudu and Vita?

Or Ely/vita

[final locust]

songque for sd content
sparkle for something idr
ely for symphony

most if not all of kiana's bosses are SD, so generally the best team will be songque vita

[copper shale]

just depends on d and content, low d they all about the same, tho sparkle should be higher, high d then vita

ma then its sparkle, vita ded

[small wing]

Do people really care about rank in MA tho

Like it gives practically nothing of worth

[copper shale]

na slac

tho for low d, you have a lot of options to try around

[somber egret]

New Kiana is like Thel, already great at S0 and becomes greater at S2.
Though other than Thel DPS, her strength is mostly best Utility Support

Kinda excited for the next ring type

[urban cloud]

What is currently higher in priority, Ely dkey or new Kiana?

[copper shale]

what u have

part 2

[urban cloud]

4/4 vita, 0/4 dudu, 3/4 sq(no weap), 4/4 sena
Hopefully not missing anything

[small wing]

I should prolly be asking this question for myself too

[somber egret]

New Kiana

[copper shale]

ely is new ring coverage for price of 60 pulls, and you would want to try to cover more teams, but u lack thel so its bit awkward
kiana also new ring coverage and can go into ws with ur sena, but songque lacks weapon, tho manageable since songque no weap can still be used to help skip core of sd enemies

prob kiana higher prio but if u low on xtals then maybe ely dk

[somber egret]

just skip to 8.2

[small wing]

I'm at like 55k I should be good to 4/4 ely and Kiana next patch ye?

[nova osprey]

Should be enough yes

[small wing]

Whew perfect

Debating if I'll nab the vita costume and ER bridge too

[nova osprey]

Or u can skip both and get an aop

[somber egret]

[small wing]

Oh right

Completely forgot Teri is actually a must grab

Feels weird to have a gacha AOP actually worth getting outside of nirv

[somber egret]

you can skip teri

[copper shale]

loa is fine without teri

the only thing u saw me shitting a bit on is having ss sera for ely (altho its just my opinion

[somber egret]

SS Entropy still fine though is huge score drop like 60 points compared to SS Sera

But if you only have S Ely, is it even worth it

[copper shale]

i mean ig it depends on d and stuff then

[somber egret]

feel like SEA Nirv will have a huge temp jump on 8.0 Week 6 and 8.1 Week 1

like it did on CN, 7D increased

[nova osprey]

7

[somber egret]

3 Boss

Wolf, Guaymas, Kasumi

[copper shale]

its not

[small wing]

I'm sure it's fine but if the score difference between SA DA and S teri is big as I hear I still wanna nab her

[copper shale]

it wont be as big as not having ss sera for ely i think

[somber egret]

you'll be fine, if have no intention of retaining Nirv

[nova osprey]

I wanna retain nirv and my aop pity is 10 so im getting her no matter what

[junior nova]

In that case, kiaelf is a good replacement?

For loa

[somber egret]

rather save those extra pulls for other battlesuits

[somber egret]

yeah I guess, if 4 stars

I forgot to test elfs in CN

[copper shale]

all ik is ur gonna have a ice dps if u run anything not teri with songque

[glass nacelle]

ew sa today

[willow pumice]

Yea get new kiana + teri asop

[urban cloud]

Oh I completely forgot about the bridges

Noo am I cooked

[copper shale]

💳

[urban cloud]

Currently have 3334 xtals
Just got 100 xtals so 3434 then

[copper shale]

lol

eh maybe get ely dkey first then and then gamble for kiana

[somber egret]

Vita Outfit + Bridges >>>>> everything in 8.1

[copper shale]

i thought u had more saved up, at this point if u only got this much xtals, u just try to get ely dk and forget everything else

[urban cloud]

I pulled dudu and sparkle, that's why

[copper shale]

i see

[glass nacelle]

Dkey bait

[mossy escarp]

Ew sa

[glass nacelle]

Ew

[glass nacelle]

Kianabait senagood trust

[copper shale]

but sena use kiana too

now if somebody here had sss teri then he can test this rot
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Ddcce7EKj/?vd_source=0c55e9eeea7f01cd7949940b979fafe9

[glass nacelle]

Imagine no que

[copper shale]

que check

[plucky cradle]

vitabait

[somber egret]

vitagood

[naive briar]

cabbagebad

[glass nacelle]

Where sparkless ref

[copper shale]

none

can try ely tho

apparently not that much slower

[rain isle]

[urban cloud]

Vita is good actually, she lets me bruteforce weathers

[copper shale]

still demote

tho i suppose it also depends on what kind of weathers u're bruteforcing

[urban cloud]

ones where I can't with dudu or sonk

Or sparkle

[robust crane]

did sena dps lose any bosses with badums arrival?

[copper shale]

36 enemy sd weather

if u count that

[robust crane]

i do

[copper shale]

theres still lightning guaymas but i think kiana is support there

for sena

[somber egret]

2 Kiana

[copper shale]

but yea i got nothing

other than the 36 mob one

[plucky cradle]

kween

[mossy escarp]

tf

got hoh dkey with 24 cards

vitabad

[urban cloud]

Is pulling for vita skin or not a decision only I can make

[sinful crown]

pull now, regret later

[somber egret]

pull now, regret never

[plucky cradle]

pull now, regret now

[mossy escarp]

pull now, regret now

[urban cloud]

Conflicting responses

[copper shale]

they not

its pull

[urban cloud]

It's the regret part

[copper shale]

thats just how well u cope mentally

[plucky cradle]

pull later, regret now

[glass nacelle]

Fund me vita skin thanks

[terse ravine]

Wtf jumped so high

[sinful river]

【【米游新春会】「新岁共团圆」正片-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/Kh17ZBP

[urban cloud]

Me too pls

[somber egret]

whel now, pull now

[slim lion]

Never pull

[somber egret]

[glass nacelle]

Skem

[sinful river]

Here’s Mhy CNY fan celebration

[glass nacelle]

[sinful river]

Disappointed that it’s not a live premiere

[terse ravine]

Aichan whel for me

[glass nacelle]

Where code

[urban cloud]

Can't whel
Plus if I whel vita won't give me food anyway

Oh nice I now have 3.5k crystals

[umbral spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/waifu-hsr-march-7th-gif-2413497978620239102

in case of the vita skin

[copper shale]

【照着流程就能出分的木桩boss！两套全s0+1阵容ios红莲514高扰动星尘娑815/800-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/eZcBqap

ss teri

o theres ds too

【限制寻梦者的只能是星环能量！无需氪金协同，全s0+1星尘琪携手薇塔松雀轻取官服红莲娑810分！（506eh）-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/g0Ufb7q

[plucky cradle]

no ios ds showcase

[copper shale]

ios sleep

514 too high

[glass nacelle]

Bilibili 510

https://b23.tv/sFRl27s

Elybad

[short knoll]

anything good for red lotus

[agile monolith]

Does Hohe dkey team sticks to Lantern and Thelema?

[glass nacelle]

Thelema is mandatory

[abstract night]

She is?

[copper shale]

yes

[glass nacelle]

No thelema u have to use kira + sushang kek

[nova osprey]

What if i use hohe sus and thel instead

Maximum shield breakage

[glass nacelle]

Slow ring regen

[delicate reef]

How to make a CN Mihoyo account.. looks like it doesn't allow login by BiliBili on PC.

[umbral spoke]

I mean shouldn't be an issue for 1 SO cycle bosses and Aops with additionial AR gain

[short knoll]

not sure if sushang buff is long enough for WoD gameplay

[half shard]

but what bosses ?

Kasumi need atleast 2-3 SO

[copper shale]

is fine, ely wod just try to use two combo and then close ring, more than enough time

[copper shale]

well u use regular ult for mob and p1

p2 kasumi u SO

[copper shale]

but if u have thel dont rly need jk in there

can just form p2 teams

[short knoll]

coralie the goat

[copper shale]

well more so thinking sena/vita

if coralie then maybe just do jk/shigure instead of coralie

[abstract night]

U do?

I mean on freeze needing bosses sure, but what about non freeze bosses?

[copper shale]

non so dmg and evade farm and break shield

[abstract night]

So dmg?

[copper shale]

kasumi u dont need to freeze but no thel ur doomed

[copper shale]

damage outside of stellar outburst

ely has no dmg

[abstract night]

Oh i thought u meant the word so

[copper shale]

so thel helps do some

[abstract night]

I mean... vita has dmg right?

[copper shale]

fuck no against the shield of kasumi

also vita dmg is if vita dps

but ur support

u still want sena over vita tho unless ss or something

[abstract night]

I could uhm
Run. .. sena TB paga M

[short knoll]

most of ely boss has shield iirc

[abstract night]

:(

[glass nacelle]

What's boss

[copper shale]

just hypothesizing

[short knoll]

can hope for new sushang to support new ely, but if that happen, you still need to pull

[glass nacelle]

Only kasumi has shield

[abstract night]

Elys banner wont even be during beta tho right?

Elys is first 2 weeks

Thats week 5 and 6 for cn
And its a 9 week patch

[glass nacelle]

Most of ely boss don't have shield

[short knoll]

does kalpas have shield?

[abstract night]

Then why am I worried about thelema if its just 1 boss? And obv the rime wanting bosses

[abstract night]

Hitcount?

[glass nacelle]

No

Only hit count

[glass nacelle]

thelema is dps during non SO

If no debuff or type

[copper shale]

evade farm as well

[glass nacelle]

Ye

Hoh during arc = no dmg

[copper shale]

u can just treat it as thel dps but ely use ring instead

[abstract night]

Whos the non SO dps when no thelema then?

[copper shale]

u go sleep

[abstract night]

I got the lightning valks

[copper shale]

well idk ur just doomrd

[abstract night]

In rl?

[copper shale]

u forced to use p1

[copper shale]

yes

even rl

[glass nacelle]

Sp issue kek

[copper shale]

yea so at that point its better to fully go p1

at least sp not issue

[abstract night]

Then what about HoH Kira Sena/Vita/Teri?

[copper shale]

idk u can try but thats pretty bad

[short knoll]

maybe i used to use ely for HoR boss so i remember a lot more shielded boss

[abstract night]

I cant try

Its 8.0

And theres no beta

[glass nacelle]

Sss houdou
Keksumi
Hov
That's it

[abstract night]

😔

[copper shale]

at least so far the ones coming out dont have that many shields so its alg

[copper shale]

i mean when 8.1 comes obvs

[abstract night]

[copper shale]

but since beta we alr know that she need thel and ~~ ss sera ~~ for her to work

so just not surprising ig

at this point the only reasons u consider pulling ely is cuz either for ring coverage for a relatively affordable 60 pulls, or u have thel + ss sera (s2+ in rank as well)

[abstract night]

For a relatively afforadable 14

[short knoll]

for spending reward

[copper shale]

nyes

that too

[abstract night]

Well i still have to spend 78 for kiana and her wep

[copper shale]

or aop

[abstract night]

If i do go for her

[abstract night]

5 till

[short knoll]

aop bad, dkey eternal

[abstract night]

19 for both

[final locust]

sign up for beta

[abstract night]

Its not here

[final locust]

it will be here soon

[abstract night]

I was planning on signing up

[final locust]

then u can test that

[abstract night]

When?

[final locust]

apps end feb 4

[abstract night]

News tab in game right ?

[final locust]

yeah or the projector will show it

[abstract night]

The what?

Oh

The little annoying screen in the middle of the menu i cant turn off

[final locust]

you can turn it off lol

[abstract night]

It comes back on

[abstract night]

It just came out today lol

[final locust]

no it came out yesterday

[prisma tartan]

that bgm

[abstract night]

Today for me*

Someone yesterday said there was no 8.1 beta (which ofc i was confused asf) lol

Tysm tho

[final locust]

are u not NA

[fervent hinge]

am I tweaking I can't find the 8.1 bp frame

[abstract night]

Gotchu

[fervent hinge]

I swear someone showed me before

xd

[final locust]

yeah there is one

its a snek i think

[fervent hinge]

oh yeah

red and white with snek

[final locust]

@fervent hinge

[fervent hinge]

ah yes thank youuu

[abstract night]

EVERYTIME

I JUST FOUND IT

[fervent hinge]

I need hare frags for SS so I'm probably gonna get paladin next patch

[abstract night]

[glass nacelle]

midparkle

[fervent hinge]

frame kinda cute too but I don't really have anything that'd match it xD

[copper shale]

dat ur bracket?

[abstract night]

Maybe HoTF...?

Idek

[fervent hinge]

how she's not red at all

[wet pollen]

artbook is next patch on SEA/Global right? or am I

[shrewd socket]

no info

[wet pollen]

[fervent hinge]

atp I genuinely thing glb/sea aren't getting an artbook

[copper shale]

just dont keep any expectations

[final locust]

matches ely quite nicely

[fervent hinge]

we've had the short straw like this so many times that I won't even be surprised if we get shafted

[wet pollen]

when is glb/sea beta

[shrewd socket]

glueball/seaweed ded no wae

[final locust]

apps end feb 4 so sometime around there. or maybe when CNY festivities end

[fervent hinge]

wait if I get that other sirin outfit it'd match that

[wet pollen]

artbook next patch plz

[glass nacelle]

t1 myriad

[final locust]

but its so whel

[fervent hinge]

I have pink coupons saved up from spending events and such

I just gotta wait

another year lul

[copper shale]

was gonna say wat is that whel doing there

[final locust]

yeah 2 years

[copper shale]

makes more sense now

[final locust]

fit came out last year so probably not in timecapsule until 2027

[fervent hinge]

xd true

[shrewd socket]

can we sign for beta yet?

[short knoll]

2 artbook next year

[abstract night]

And the outfit box gives 100

[fervent hinge]

mm nah I'll get the nyx skin from there

[abstract night]

[abstract night]

U signing up for beta

[fervent hinge]

nah

[shrewd socket]

idk if get nyx or hor skin from that one

[fervent hinge]

no point

[shrewd socket]

no point as in "i was in cn beta already"?

[fervent hinge]

no I've never been in CN beta

and I'm not interested in it either

[abstract night]

My bias says nyx skin

[fervent hinge]

there's no point in me signing up for beta anymore unless the valk is a HoV support

[final locust]

oh god

[abstract night]

But ba dumb

[final locust]

but hohe

[shrewd socket]

so dudu

[fervent hinge]

ezskip

[final locust]

lyo did RS actually buff HoV or is she just a TA sidegrade

[fervent hinge]

yeah quite a significant upgrade

there are many stages that she stopped being able to clear after 530+D she can now do it again

[abstract night]

But

[fervent hinge]

and I don't even have the best ELF

[abstract night]

Yeah i got nothing

[fervent hinge]

even if I got funded in the raffle I'd spend it on teri op

I'm so sick and tired of kiana battlesuits bricking my account

[final locust]

what

you like HoV that much and dont have PB????

[fervent hinge]

my pb is 2* which is unusable

[final locust]

truly kek

[fervent hinge]

I had other priorities over the past few spending events

[final locust]

and youre not getting badum to 3* her...... interesting

[fervent hinge]

I'm getting +3 HoH dkey

[final locust]

is there even an elf box?

[fervent hinge]

should be

[final locust]

oh period

[abstract night]

There is

[fervent hinge]

and I didn't get pb from bp because I wanted hare more

[final locust]

but hare ass without PB help

[fervent hinge]

speaking of which she just hit 4 affection :3

[fervent hinge]

I have 4* dudu

[final locust]

oh!

[final locust]

where summer drip

[fervent hinge]

I don't like summer outfits