🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[quick river]

while she kisses Eden and Mobius

[naive briar]

smh you started your headcanon in gameplay discussion and refuse other opinions

[quick river]

my bad fanfic reflex

[rain isle]

[naive briar]

slaps that Kiavita thing and run

[rain isle]

[naive briar]

stop stealing art thanks

[quick river]

no found it on 4chan

[naive briar]

so you stole it from a place that steals

[quick river]

such is a wild west of the internet

[naive briar]

what do you mean by this

[quick river]

anyway when does cn story drop

do we know

[strange lintel]

Mini dudu ded?, only 1 team 😦

[verbal mountain]

only need 1 team, probably

[glass nacelle]

u trust recommend team ?

[verbal mountain]

trust my life with it

[strange lintel]

Well I don't think dudu gonna replace vita and sparkle as an support

Vita has nice buffs and sparkle has ult cd

[verbal mountain]

dudu has shieldbreak

so she's used on wolf

[strange lintel]

That's only 1 boss

[verbal mountain]

yea just 1

[strange lintel]

They need to shill her more

Why do they keep shilling sparkle

[glass nacelle]

SO dmg is big but non SO is terrible

[rain isle]

Cause she was doomposted to hell and back /s

[rain isle]

[glass nacelle]

[rain isle]

Man's balding for score

[rustic sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/kiana-cookie-houkai3rd-eating-cute-gif-17554516

[agile monolith]

Hohe w/ new dkey bis team?

[rain isle]

Idr aside from Thelema support

XD

[copper shale]

depending on boss and rot, third person either songque or sena

or vita for some exceptions ig

[agile monolith]

ok assuming weather either 3 of them works,who’s the best?

also 2nd unit is?

[copper shale]

well its still boss dependent

2nd unit always thel

[muted mauve]

Abyss opened.
See, Vita good.

[smoky lintel]

so how are kiana teams looking? kiana+ vita and other support based on boss or is vita switched out occasionally

[copper shale]

[copper shale]

seems to vary a lot depending on boss

so far the best ref i can find for this cycle with ss ds is 830 kiana vita songque

and 838 kiana songque sparkle

both at 504d

[smoky lintel]

[mossy escarp]

Vita so good at this abyss cycle her entire screen time is about 3 secs at max kek

[steep axle]

no dudu kiana support

at least kiana supports dudu (i think)

[copper shale]

as long as u dont need to use her super qte she fine

which is this cycle so thats good

she be better if there's an option to turn off her super qte

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1YQfpYCEsP

kiana elf in nirvana kek

que with hoh support in rl
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1yufHYpErD

[terse ravine]

Indonesian mentioned did you try Indomie mie goreng Cheebee?

[willow perch]

omg I love that

🍜

[terse ravine]

UwU yes mie goreng is legendary

I think i should smuggle couple of dozen crates to moon so Kiana isn't as skinny

Rip Mei's effort to ban her from instant noodles tho BAHAHA

[ember locust]

Always has been

[verbal mountain]

no way vita good???

[willow perch]

Carv good(er)

[glass nacelle]

double kiana work fine in resonance team

[gleaming imp]

Nostalgia/p1 on top again?

[hoary mountain]

i keep reminding myself about the free mobius and getting more excited for it every time

chat will i die if i skip stardust valk number 3 or be fine?

[main goblet]

i mean fws does look good
but if you already have a valuable team to bruteforce her weather (and you're in rl and below) then you'll be fine
but if you can afford her then she'll still recommended to pull and since you can also get stuff from the spending event if you need it

[hoary mountain]

i'd rather get the human divine key to cover PSY type

[main goblet]

up to you but unless you don't have enough funds, you should be able to afford both kiana and ely dk

[hoary mountain]

i have like 900 crystals and no pity on the banners

[main goblet]

after getting ely dk? or is that ur current funds?

[hoary mountain]

thats my current funds

[main goblet]

oh yeah even if you want ely dkey that's not enough...
u should consider grinding crystals rn if you wanna pull

[hoary mountain]

i'll prolly skip Kiana regardless cuz i still want coverage for Bio

[main goblet]

worse case scenario you might have to just skip the patch, which will be unfortunate but atp you would save for the next versions

[hoary mountain]

idk how much longer i can cope for. telliing myself the next character is bio surely

[main goblet]

ngl i want a bio valk too but i don't think were getting any until fov is forgotten

[hoary mountain]

the fact that we got a quantum and imaginary valk before bio

[abstract night]

Coverage for mecha you mean?

[main goblet]

2 quas even lmao

[hoary mountain]

oh yea i would love a 4th mecha character

just what i need

[abstract night]

They have to release their new version number patchly quantum unit!

[abstract night]

HoH is psychic
You would loose to bio (cuz thelema)

[hoary mountain]

yea

[main goblet]

i love my bio valk in psy content! i say that as i cope with vita dps in such team

worse case scenario close ur eyes use stardust and call it a day
it only sucks if ur bracket is non slack

[hoary mountain]

i really like astral rings man. really good idea

[main goblet]

type coverage is something to keep in mind but it's not everything
certain mechanics and ele/phy buffs and debuffs matter too

it's kinda hard to keep up but as long as you know what valks ur going for, you'll eventually have multiple teams for different content

[hoary mountain]

i know but i feel like type coverage is the baseline for brute forcing myself to stay in redlotus

[main goblet]

it's just that it would feel bad if you don't have enough valks rn

[main goblet]

understandable but i would still encourage also learning about the other benefits that the valks ur getting will give you

either way the better priority rn is to just aim for new valks and pray the weathers u don't want don't show up for a while

[hoary mountain]

ban bleed weather fr

im tryna decide what astral op i should pull

i dont have lantern for my songque so i kinda want serapeum but the jump from theresa to every other astral op is wild

[main goblet]

if you're a f2p, i encourage skipping all
they've great but that means u need even more crystals to get them + each aop would be prioritised in certain astra rings meaning if you use different astra rings or if we get new astra rings in the future, the one u get won't be the best

[hoary mountain]

fair enough

i'll stick to my original plan of just pulling the HoHE divine key and then skipping the rest of the version

i'll probably build pity just for the spending event and if i get kiana then i get kiana

[main goblet]

aops are only encouraged for ppl who can afford it + new valks (mainly ppl that pay) or/and people who care about nirvana

[main goblet]

hmm maybe do the discount pull first
if you get new kiana, ditch hohe dkey and farm enough to get kiana's wp
if you don't think you can do it, then you can start with hohe dk first

[hoary mountain]

yea thats what i plan to do

i really like my flame chasers

i was spreading the war treasurey mobius news like wildfire in my friend group

[main goblet]

lmao

[hoary mountain]

only gonna play her in elysian realm but god am i gonna enjoy it

[main goblet]

ngl i have been waiting for so long to get hof (i can now own all the kianas thus far 😋) and so i can use her in stress test
ill get mobius later

[steep axle]

i have HoF spending outfit

no HoF since that

[main goblet]

gimme

[hoary mountain]

the fireworks one yea

love that one

[steep axle]

oh the cny luna didnt get hair updated right

ig it was just for HoF 😔

[main goblet]

no i don't think her hair changed, why?

oh wait u mean that situation when the hof outfit used a different hair style?

[steep axle]

i keep seeing HoF spending compared to that one kiana but its always v1 and it keeps reminding me

its been like 2 years or smth why does instagram remind me

[main goblet]

[hoary mountain]

god. i remember getting HOF and HoS from the begginer banner

those were the days

what characters do kids nowadays have from begginer banner

[main goblet]

iirc the current starter supply have songque and sena
it used to be luna and horb

[hoary mountain]

thats pretty damn good

[main goblet]

it does have good reroll value

issue is getting the wp tho

[hoary mountain]

yea i can imagine

i wish law of ascension charged a bit faster

[steep axle]

i remember HoT AE beginner banner

i got HoT in first 10 then it expired

[rain isle]

Lol

That was the one when I started as well

[junior nova]

I remember hof banner when I pulled this

23/08/21

[muted mauve]

Oh. I'm dead.

[dreamy pendant]

Dw carv

[rain isle]

Just confuse them with HG2 lore and win

If they know about HG2 tho, you're cooked

[hoary mountain]

Im so excited for the HoHE divine key. Dont even care if she turns out just mediocre

Or even bad

[gleaming imp]

Real I'm excited since my Ely is SS2

[shrewd socket]

should i S2 HoHe bc of the dkey or just S2 LV?

[gleaming imp]

S2 HoH

[half shard]

s2 LV

everyone already have ranked up HoH , just give up

[gleaming imp]

Should've invested into adv

[abstract night]

After the valks are basically dead <3

Holy dead chat

[gleaming imp]

Hotruth and hofin

[abstract night]

Niche
Lucky or bad cuz she was in spending

[gleaming imp]

Hofin got a dkey and she's a good p2 dps and support and also is Essential for vita dps

And is able to brute force lamp content with ease

[abstract night]

Dps only if u have htr and hoo
Vita only has 2 options

[gleaming imp]

Then again even vita can do that

[abstract night]

What

Oh

[gleaming imp]

Vita can do well on lamp content and in the case of rpc that was around 7.9 even do better

[abstract night]

Not enough to warrent backpulling over a new valk

[gleaming imp]

I think that was the boss name, the helicopter one

[gleaming imp]

Would you say lamp > hofin?

[distant lagoon]

RPC?

[gleaming imp]

The giant helicopter one

[abstract night]

Irrelevent
Dont backpull either

[distant lagoon]

that´s the RPC (don´t ask me for the number)

[gleaming imp]

But wouldn't lamp be better since she's 7.5 and hofin is 6.4?

[still condor]

would you say old dog shit > 'new' dog shit

[gleaming imp]

Don't insult my queen

[abstract night]

I dont like dog shit anyways
Throw them both away

[gleaming imp]

And hofin has a adv and lamp doesn't

[abstract night]

So?

[gleaming imp]

"After the valks are basically dead <3" so how is hofin basically dead?

Technicality stocks up 🤓

[still condor]

requiring a dkey to do literally anything is basically dead

[gleaming imp]

[abstract night]

Ur using them after their period
This is why supports are usually good longterm, but that doesnt mean u should use SnS anymore (ignoring ss ma)

[still condor]

its the dkey thats living, not HoFi
just like the judah valks of the past

[gleaming imp]

I refuse this notion, Kiana on top

[abstract night]

Who?

[gleaming imp]

That's senawho not kiana

[abstract night]

||Senadina was actually mentioned in the 8.0 story so..||

[muted mauve]

I entered the spring lobby just as the last part of TSA started playing.

[glass nacelle]

it seems like without songque, kiana is worse than sena

que op

[still condor]

its a good thing i have songque but not sena

[gleaming imp]

Senabad real?

[still condor]

kiana needing songque to be better than sena is actually senagood kianabad

[half shard]

need 2 SD valk to beat 1 ?

[gleaming imp]

But p1/nostalgia shill supposed to be on top?

[candid atlas]

Is it worth skipping dudu for kiana?

[abstract night]

But being pt1
Means absolutely nothing
Its hoyo's decision on what they wanna do (still hate how they released a cheaper and basically better lightning dps after aponia :( )

[glass nacelle]

kiana is good support for sena too

[copper shale]

if u have less than 30k xtals (assuming 0 pity) skip

[gleaming imp]

Use both at the same time

That's what I did

[abstract night]

I love doing less dmg with both of them

[nova osprey]

Aponia with sena?

[muted mauve]

Spring Kiana Wallpapers: https://www.miyoushe.com/bh3/article/61391770
New Year HoT Figure Video: https://www.miyoushe.com/bh3/article/61391768

[nova osprey]

[gleaming imp]

Aponia with HoT

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1WDfHYsEFD

[muted mauve]

I would ping chibi but they watching Fate stream

[gleaming imp]

I distinctly remember seeing aponia used with hot post 7t

[glass nacelle]

s2 1550 atk

[copper shale]

r2 hofi dk, wonder what dk his elysia have

[final locust]

bridge rerun in 8.1 right?

and how many days login for the 10x equip supply

[unique swallow]

7

[final locust]

aw nuts

which A ranks are on badum banner?

[copper shale]

u dont have all a ranks sss yet or

[final locust]

no i dont

i only started 1y ago
and going 1 a rank at a time

[gleaming imp]

Kind of still don't get the rotation for senawho hofin vita

[copper shale]

outside of ring she just weaps and in ring she just goes in and use do a combo

and uh not rly cn gameplay is this

[gleaming imp]

But what about her stellar drain?

Since without doing that you don’t get S0 immediately

[copper shale]

well if u need her stellar drain then do it

[somber egret]

not needed on first stellar especially if you using vita

[gleaming imp]

Really? How does only senawho and vita stellar drain = SO? I know that’s the case if SS vita iirc but my vita is only S2

As in S0 on second rotation instead of first?

[slim lion]

For a minute I thought that's fov

[glass nacelle]

whel

[final locust]

why is there a teri derp inside of it

what is kiana's best team btw
im assuming songque sparkle because you cant escape sparkle's bitchass

[somber egret]

+25 points with Sparkle

wait, assuming that's S Teri

[glass nacelle]

sporkover

pog

[nova osprey]

Songop

[plucky cradle]

sporkol in 2025

[nova osprey]

Also ss vita stellar drain boost is limited to wod

[plucky cradle]

vita que > sporkol que ?

[final locust]

no

vita is a lot slower

less points
dudu que might be

[glass nacelle]

this boss has high res so ye

[plucky cradle]

does dudu even buff that much for badum

[glass nacelle]

not much but fast

[plucky cradle]

dudubait

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

[glass nacelle]

[somber egret]

Vita Que Nirv
Sparkol Que RL
Guaymas RL too squishy and dies on transition
Guaymas Nirv is tanky and enters hitcount phase on transition

[plucky cradle]

wut about Ely Que

[nova osprey]

Dead

[somber egret]

doesn't exist

[plucky cradle]

Elybad

[glass nacelle]

whel just ignores hitcount ez

[plucky cradle]

kurowhel*

[glass nacelle]

*denwhel

ely in 2025

[plucky cradle]

*kurowhel gib badum weap funds ples

[glass nacelle]

no moni

[plucky cradle]

[glass nacelle]

i'm poor

[plucky cradle]

kurowhel after SSS Teriop

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

fake image

that's mine

[glass nacelle]

*real

[plucky cradle]

[glass nacelle]

heal in 2025

[plucky cradle]

[somber egret]

denwhel ended abyss with teri only

[plucky cradle]

badum needs heal

AA = no iframes

[glass nacelle]

sena moment

[plucky cradle]

badum = new sena

[rain isle]

Next ring might have to do with healing

I don't see any use for that effect otherwise

[plucky cradle]

so she wouldn't die from nirv tank laser

[feral epoch]

S teri

[feral epoch]

where

[glass nacelle]

here

[feral epoch]

send

[glass nacelle]

check in game

[feral epoch]

since when theres this

https://www.miyoushe.com/bh3/article/61389486

https://www.miyoushe.com/bh3/article/61389486

vita 4+ pts

[quasi glen]

Heal weather soon

No fws forced to run dp

[slim lion]

I feel like u can do higher than mine since u have s2 vita and 3S kiana elf

[feral epoch]

can't do higher

[steep axle]

Is higher even possible

[feral epoch]

possible

just lower atk and skill issues

[glass nacelle]

[plucky cradle]

[hoary mountain]

how much do attack affixes really matter

[nova osprey]

Not at all at lower abyss, but the higher u go, the more u start to feel when there is an atk gap

[junior nova]

Put it perfectly into words

[willow perch]

On the money

[rain isle]

Bingo bango

[willow perch]

Bing bang boom

[rain isle]

And that is how Chai Khai created the universe.

🍞

[distant lagoon]

look who´s the smallest now of the trio

[rain isle]

[short knoll]

at least she is thiccer

[naive briar]

[willow perch]

[distant lagoon]

...call the cops

https://tenor.com/view/event-gif-9186887337818182177

[sinful crown]

[short knoll]

[naive briar]

just call Khai up

[glass nacelle]

【李素裳喊话寻梦者：寻梦者，can you？-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/Ld9DAR0

eLy

[ember locust]

Not even by far

We can also comment on the fact that Mei and Kiana didn't grow at all while Bronya juqt spiked

[terse ravine]

how are badum Kiana's support buffs triggered?
and for Ely DKey, it's weapon active and/or charged atk?

[glass nacelle]

qte

and ely is wa

[terse ravine]

even on World Star teams?

[glass nacelle]

yes

when she's support, qte can gain full KE so u can use special weap to consume stellar drain

[terse ravine]

oh ok, about to ask how she consumes Stellar Drain cuz i cant find it on Moriso's website

thank you

[glass nacelle]

[feral epoch]

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1PHfXY1Ee2

sena good

[clear vigil]

[hearty turtle]

Ely dkey good or no?

[copper shale]

have ss sera + thel?

if so ely is fine

otherwise its just a dkey and up to u how much u prioritize it

[willow pumice]

Seems just ok for dps, need live abyss result
WoD / LoA support is used to counter tank
Might be better for the future ??? ar support

[hearty turtle]

Don't have

Me kinda new only have sparkle and Vita on new account or dudu+sparkle on main account(old)

Not like I'll get Ely dkey on my main account anyway forgot to do the free hohe event... But would sparkle + Vita be good support for elysia? Cuzz iirc she is LoA

[copper shale]

elysia is wod as dps, loa is her supportive tag

[hearty turtle]

Ohhh

[hearty turtle]

So thele is needed? If using Ely dps?

[copper shale]

yes

[hearty turtle]

Ig I'll pull on dkey if have excess xtals...

Does that dkey able to be tune up? Like waxing moon?

[copper shale]

well all dkeys need to be tuned in order to be a "dkey"

[vast citrus]

In 8.1 I'll have 22 bp orbs, is horb wep + 2 stig OK (also ignores that 8.2 might haves stuff I want) or should I just get SS1 HoTr (simp reasons)

[copper shale]

hard to say, it kinda depends if you will find usage with horb or not, do you have 4/4 hos or hare?

[vast citrus]

No 😔 I just like Seele so it would be an attempt to make her useable in like Elysian Realm or smth.

[copper shale]

if u want to just use her in er then hos gear would work, but ig if u dont have that then, idk f2p gear should still be somewhat doable

[vast citrus]

I only started in.... 7.2? idk it was just long enough for me to get free Coralie stigmata.

so I've mostly only got part 2 valks geared

[copper shale]

seele dont see much usage now, esp with part 2 valks, the only usage u might find is ma specifically using seele for kevin with dudu, as an alternative to sparkle. but that needs s2 seele
s0 seele technically is only a second slower in terms of setup but u might be missing more dmg, and that causes u to be quite a bit slower, and at that point, the score is really low

[feral epoch]

weird, in 7.3 you get free lv 50 coralie stigmata from 7 days login

[vast citrus]

my memory is terrible all I know is the thing had like 4 days left when I started, and then Thelema banner happened.

[feral epoch]

started by the end of 7.3 then

[vast citrus]

Checks out. But yeah it's sad cause a lot of these part 1 valks are fun and feel more interesting to me.

but light spender or not, I can't really afford to go in on them 😔 (monthly + bp)

[feral epoch]

yeah, most of them already expired. not worth getting

[feral epoch]

for me not fun, when it's need 1 char for core support for all team

[vast citrus]

I'm just sad its Horb and not TA. I have TA 2/4 and would be finishing for simp reasons.

would have been perfect, grab the weapon grab the missing stig.

wait is seven thunders a dk

if so I'll just grab that for +10 ATK and then debate torus vs stamps (surely HoTr will eventually end up farmable)

[copper shale]

yes

[vast citrus]

[glass nacelle]

t9 myriad

[soft prawn]

sorry, i'll be sending smth that might fill a bit of your space soon

heya chat, there is some cooking to do about who should I actually pull or not, will do it here instead of #💁gameplay-help for many spoiler reasons

this might all change if I manage to win one of the S character boxes and get Songque

I like all the characters but the one and only priority I have is 4/4 new kiana and Vita Skin

as of now I have 4/4 Senadina, 4/4 Thelema, 4/4 Vita, HoFi DK, Songque Astral Op

as I plan of pulling Boom Kiana, I need another Law of Ascension Character that works with her

I have a few questions soooooo:

1. is there much of a difference between songque/durandal/sparkle/hohe as LoA support for Kiana?
2. how big is the comparison of dmg between songque op and theresa op

I have 19k crystals, 16 Pulls till S rank guaranteed, and 24 focus cards (weapon banner), I was waiting for the spending event but as it's HoRb I don't have to hit 44.8k crystals
even if I were to pull durandal or sparkle now, I should be able to get Boom Kiana 4/4 without a problem

I have no clue what to do honestly, I wouldn't be so troubled if durandal / sparkle were rerunning in 8.1 😭

I still have discounted x10 on durandal

[willow pumice]

1. is there much of a difference between songque/durandal/sparkle/hohe as LoA support for Kiana?
   the difference varies with boss. If you're f2p just use anyone

2. how big is the comparison of dmg between songque op and theresa op
   big for loa valks. but asop isn't cheap. Only consider pulling if you have an abundance of extra crystals

[soft prawn]

I'll get a dozillion crystals from raffle and get everything!

I'll wait the 30th of january to actually end up deciding

[short knoll]

wait for 8.2 news

[meager thorn]

thats something I wanted to ask about because idk if its how it works

1. is the 60mil xtal pool for NA&EU or is it separate between both?
2. if a low enough amount of people quality would everyone just get 18k xtals?

rn NA does NOT have enough players to have an uneven split from what I remember

[short knoll]

the first few lines of the event rule can answer you

[meager thorn]

they do?

[meager thorn]

i mean they probably do but where do I se~

oh. 60mil is pretty small for 6 servers isnt it...

[short knoll]

click i button in event page

bigger than expected

[meager thorn]

didnt even notice there was one, thanks

[short knoll]

i expect smaller

[meager thorn]

bummer, hope I dont get 400 xtals and at least get 2k 🦍

[distant lagoon]

18k or bust

[naive briar]

wrong place

[shrewd socket]

wym it is the right place

[glass nacelle]

[naive briar]

please use the appropriate channels, thank you

[rain isle]

Oof

#Glblul

[gleaming imp]

Manifestating 2.8k bare minimum from my lottery

[unique swallow]

For them to keep to the guarantee of a minimum 400 crystal payout there would have to be at most 150k eligible players
This server alone has more than double that amount

And doubtlessly the users in maincord are but a fraction of the actual playerbase

So I have no idea what they're gonna do lol

[verbal mountain]

give 100 minimum

or 50

[verbal mountain]

i mean are all these people here actually playing the game still?

a good portion probably isn't

but idk

i could see them just lowering the amt because glblul

[short knoll]

not sure if we have that much player

[verbal mountain]

let me check last raffle calcs

[short knoll]

we didnt get that much artbook for sure

[unique swallow]

Well obviously not, but even if let's say 70% of this server isn't playing anymore, that's still already 108k, not factoring people playing but not in this server

[short knoll]

i think all 6 server got less than 100k book

[unique swallow]

And 70% of this discord server quitting is pretty unlikely

Well, probably

[shrewd socket]

wait

[unique swallow]

Wat

[verbal mountain]

okay the last raffle event between glb had around 1.5 mil, maybe a bit more

that's already more than 150k, assuming everyone put in 9 votes

[shrewd socket]

why do i keep confusing this with honkai chat

[unique swallow]

1.5 mil votes?

That's quite surprising

[verbal mountain]

that's between all the servers mentioned this raffle

(1/3rd of that is purely SEA)

[unique swallow]

Oh

Where'd you get that number

[verbal mountain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sCRTX2ViHU

[shrewd socket]

#🎮honkai-chat message

[unique swallow]

Oh

But yeah 60 mil across 6 servers is really low if they're intending for anyone to get anything higher than the minimum payout

[short knoll]

not really a good indicator, me alone responsed for like 50 vote, it's easier for alt to get a vote than current event

[naive briar]

you were adviced and you insist to

[verbal mountain]

fair enough

[glass nacelle]

CN 300M in ~15 servers

[unique swallow]

Since when did they still ahbeso many

Didn't they shut a ton down

Anyway that's still double the crystals per server

[glass nacelle]

f2p in my bracket

[gleaming imp]

Why did they settle for s0 songque instead of going for ss songque like their two other valks?

[rain isle]

Damn

SS teri aop too

[glass nacelle]

[spiral plank]

Guys should I get elysias Astral op gear next patch or go for kiana 4/4? Im not the lucky at all in this game so I'll have to go for only one of em

[steep axle]

Just get lucky smh

[glass nacelle]

try kiana without songque, terrible

[rain isle]

Oof

[glass nacelle]

[rain isle]

This Ellie emoji is very cute

[glass nacelle]

[steep axle]

I can imagine that kinda

[glass nacelle]

[steep axle]

Bruteforce impact

[strange lintel]

Nah, u ain't getting more than 400 crystals

I'll get ur portion too, that 18k crystals will be mine!

[final locust]

what is the minimum

is the raffle shared between glblul EU and SEA what the hell

[small wing]

What's the second best team to brute force this heavenly shift weather

Wait wrong channel

[final locust]

songque vita lantern

[robust crane]

vs stardust enemies isnt badums best support always songque?

[small wing]

Should be yeah

[verbal mountain]

it's shared between those + JP, KR and TW

[final locust]

are you /srs

[final locust]

what the fuck

only 60 million?

everyone's about to get like 5 crystals

[robust crane]

how many xtals was for cn

[final locust]

300 million

[robust crane]

im assuming cn has more players than the above servers combined

otherwise wth

[short knoll]

ofc

[steep axle]

Oh hell no 5 servers

[short knoll]

CN got like 500k artbook, i dont think all other servers got 150k book

[steep axle]

6 if eu counts

[final locust]

thats what im saying...... how the hell do they plan to split that

[final locust]

NA is actually more dead than EU now

[steep axle]

Thats lije 12m-10m per server

[steep axle]

Whats crazy

[short knoll]

wrong

[steep axle]

Eu and na got 12.5k each last time

[short knoll]

JP KR should get much less

[final locust]

they will distribute a combined total of like 3mil to NA and EU

[steep axle]

Idk if jp gets artbook

[short knoll]

JP got less than 10k book iirc

[steep axle]

Doesnt jp get different artbooks

[small wing]

Ez they just give everyone 400 crystals and no more

[steep axle]

Eu has like less than 20k people anyways

[final locust]

plz no i actually am lowkey counting on raffle to get me out of xtal debt

[steep axle]

I have uh 4k

And 15 tickets

[final locust]

i need about 1k xtals from raffle

the more the merrier tho shidd

[steep axle]

I need 18k

And the valk box

[small wing]

I would gladly take 18k crystals so I can actually 4/4 this patch and next patch

[steep axle]

I had 1 im 65 chance to get it but i forgor

[short knoll]

i see CN player got between 400~1.1k

[final locust]

im about to get like 12 crystals

what even is the minimum amount

[short knoll]

400

[final locust]

breh

im bout to get 400

[feral epoch]

sure

[lone grove]

BRO....

[gleaming imp]

[lone grove]

this can't be real

[abstract night]

Not her winking at your demise

[lone grove]

😭 LMFAO

[ember locust]

Jesus only 1 pull

[abstract night]

Shes like
"Next Pull Trust"
😉

[lone grove]

well 8 mins left and i'll get 1 pull

[gleaming imp]

This is why I stick to advs, if I'm gonna spend 90 pulls for a Valk I'd rather get the Valk at SS instead of S0 for just 10 more pulls

[abstract night]

But alas
They loose a lot of stuff after that time

[lone grove]

i fear BFS will only be in adv in like 2 years

[ember locust]

Aight only 8min to pull ? 💀💀

[lone grove]

yeah for login

[gleaming imp]

Not in the case of hofin

[ember locust]

Oh yeah the login bonus

OwO I have enough pulls for her

[abstract night]

Name a person (besides you) who says backpulling HoFi is good if ur f2p (if ur a whale- who cares)

[ember locust]

I'll try to have enough for DK

[lone grove]

yeah i have 30k on glb server rn + another 15 is coming

cn been scamming me too bad

[gleaming imp]

I think backpulling good I think spending 28k on adv good

[final locust]

i have 20k

[ember locust]

I have 36k crystals, 27 chara pulls and 10 gear pulls currently

Almost 170 pulls total

[final locust]

i can get like 35k by 8.2 which is enough cuz im at 30 til on kiana and we get a free 5 expa card which will go toward the 50% discount

[abstract night]

Besides u

[lone grove]

im at 90 valk pity and 56 wep tho...

gonna suffer

[ember locust]

I think it's 5 in 8.0 and 5 in 8.1 so ten

[final locust]

i already got the 5 from 8.0

[gleaming imp]

Then I'm ahead of the curve as they say

[ember locust]

Huuh you're sure ? Bc it's 5 at the end of 8.0 ?

[mild owl]

have u tried pulling s0 on release i think it's better 🙂

[final locust]

oh at the end? i didnt know abt that actually

[ember locust]

Hold on let me search planning

[lone grove]

oh btw look at this LMAO, it was on 2nd account back when there was a banner with p2 valks and they gave 20 free pulls, it was 10th pull....

seems like this took all my luck from every account

[final locust]

SS lantern

[lone grove]

yeah

crazy lol

[final locust]

where is the free 5x

[lone grove]

i think theyre a week before 8.1

oh

[ember locust]

There @final locust , 5 from the login from end of 8.0 and beginning of 8.1 + login 8.1 version

[final locust]

the login at the end of 8.0 doesnt exist for us, we already got it no?

[ember locust]

Lmfaoo you're confusing it with the normal login format we get every version since 7.3

[lone grove]

ok here we go my last pull

[final locust]

are u talking abt this

or this

[ember locust]

This one

[abstract night]

That was around the 1st of january

For us

[ember locust]

This one was indeed in the beginning of the month

[final locust]

i know

[lone grove]

[final locust]

idc about all other logins that dont give me pulls on day 1, day 1 is where it rlly matters

need everything day 1

[lone grove]

same

[final locust]

wonder how long u gotta login for free 5 suit supply cards tho.. might be bricked

[quick coral]

damn it, she cant be here any sooner Kiana oh sweet summer child

[lone grove]

hm

[gleaming imp]

S0 bad since not shiny and only one S, SS good since it's shiny and has two S

[quick coral]

any insider knowledge on what valkyrie best teamed up with new Kiana?

[lone grove]

oh um

[quick coral]

[lone grove]

wait a sec someone wrote it here

[abstract night]

Depends on boss

[quick coral]

wut

[lone grove]

well yes but

1 moment

[ember locust]

Could 7 days long tbh, like the usual format

[final locust]

it starts on week 6, so it should be fine

[lone grove]

so yeah depends on the boss but mostly its vita sparkle or songque

[quick coral]

"yay, yay, nay"

hmmmmm, sounds fairly good nuff

[lone grove]

ok fixed it

[gleaming imp]

Besties

[lone grove]

well...

[small wing]

when do lantern become crazy good?

i heard she's one of the best WoD supports past a certain rank

but i can't remember

[final locust]

false

but SS/SS1
ranked thele and ranked bita are better

[long forum]

This is what Mei dreams about

[lone grove]

fr

[gleaming imp]

Just something besties do

[long forum]

Bosom buddies, historians say

[void mason]

bro this is a joke

[distant lagoon]

okay first, this has to go to #📿gacha-salt🧂 , second, you can never have enough T dupes

[lone grove]

"and they were roommates"

[sinful river]

Bronya gone

Imo I don’t think this new Kiana banner will sell too well because this new suit may not be the APHO suit but rather a part 2 suit. Mihoyo may make a separate suit for APHO Kiana

I will Still 1000000% pull because Kiana is 🛐⚡️🔥♥️

[still condor]

it wont sell well because hi3 is dead

[sinful river]

that as well!

[ember locust]

Tbh they did sell Vita well soo

[naive zinc]

i love how she has 3 different artstyle

[gleaming imp]

It'll sell well due to factors such as p1 shill, nostalgia shill, it's kiana, boomers love p1 cast

[naive briar]

they are not fixing Finality's face model...

we keep the frog face...

[unique swallow]

Split across 15 servers

So if you think about it they're only getting double the xtals per server, and cn is much more alive than glb

Either way counting on the raffle to help you with your xtals is peak skill issue, should've just saved better

[naive briar]

[final locust]

oh my saving was fine i just pulled SS sera

[unique swallow]

"my saving is fine"
"I just pulled for something that's completely unnecessary even in nirvana"

[final locust]

i wanted to max out my wife as much as possible!

and S sera felt useless

[gleaming imp]

P2 cast aop bad just wait for p1 cast aop

[naive briar]

Teri bad

[slate elm]

Teri bad

[gleaming imp]

Even the teriteri enjoyer is saying it

[slate elm]

i've always said this sort of thing though lol

[gleaming imp]

But teriteri aop boosts vita dps and gives loa a second stellar shift

[slate elm]

if you're being serious i actually don't really have any comments for now

i was just meme'ing

[gleaming imp]

Oh

[slate elm]

people have asked about SA back when TA or SI were current

and ofc qua teri is a very questionable choice of the entire p2 roster so far

[gleaming imp]

At least qua teri > lamp

[slate elm]

tbh no i disagree

[gleaming imp]

But hofin and vita and new kiana do well on her content generally outside of mobius

Is it the hit count?

Wait this is about qua teri > lamp I forgot

[slate elm]

hitcount, enabling symphony conditions, niche dps

[naive briar]

I feel like Teri op is more for the future
either way if they make the eepy Teri aop and pope Teri S rank I might have pulled

[slate elm]

i'll just cope for apho3 teri lol

[gleaming imp]

Only thing I got for qua teri is qua and doing well on sparkle shill and lots of detonations

[slate elm]

i like eepy teri in terms of concepts but man

• her spinning gameplay actually restarts out of your control too often
• her outfit is terrible and i'm really looking forward to a new outfit for her lmao

[naive briar]

looking at the tease next valk might be Sushang but what element

[slate elm]

that's what everyone thought at first but i don't think it really ended up that way

i don't recall details anymore but teri kinda just felt like a niche option of sparkle's arsenal alongside other gacha options

[plucky cradle]

that Sushang looks like a free outfit lel

[naive briar]

eppy Teri outfit is terrible and gameplay experience is meh
of course she is new so she is strong but

[plucky cradle]

real

remove eepy ples she uggo

[slate elm]

there's very rare situations where you need 3 collapses from both sparkle and teri and the consequence of not having it is usually minor since the enemy does another collapse move soon after

[naive briar]

that Sushang is almost showing boba the heck, they have been doing this recently.

[abstract night]

I perfer pt1 teri over pt2 teri
(Atleast non SO wise)
Only one complete twirl rot sucks in a pt2 team non SO wise

[naive briar]

We've been waiting for the pope outfit Teri forever and it was even teased in the story with a grown-up version
but no, they have to shove the main Teri into aop
and the aop is bad (for now)

[abstract night]

Teri op is bad? (For now)

[naive briar]

I think Teri aop will be better when future ??? valks are out
as of now I don't think she is a need

[abstract night]

Well no op is a need so

[muted mauve]

Chibi what

[slate elm]

maybe this is criminal of me, but i didn't want an overseer teri battlesuit lol

part of the reason was because at the time it was being teased, nothing too serious was really happening so it wouldn't have felt like a big release like FoV, PE, HFi etc

[naive briar]

many rankers on my side are not using Teri, just that

[slate elm]

but i also just more prefer the CH outfit if it comes to that role lol

and the kind of teri suits i more want are those like TP

but ofc that's all just me

so it's been pretty funny as a known teri fan seeing all these differing sentiments lol

from teri fans and non teri fans all around

[naive briar]

I think eepy Teri would be better received if people get what they expected before a dream version out of nowhere

[slate elm]

yeah eepy was definitely a sucker punch of expectations

hoyo just keeps doing it

[abstract night]

Sleepy teri needs to have another outfit

[slate elm]

i still haven't recovered from the kira one lol

[muted mauve]

will be better when future ??? are out
Read skills pls

[naive briar]

wait lol meant to say something else, forget that

memory wipe

[glass nacelle]

Pull teri and sleep in er

[muted mauve]

Teri Law Of Ascension and Rite Of Oblivion.

Also has the best unique buff out of the AstralOps with the second enhanced QTE for leader.

I can see her not being as needed during this boss since Meteor Guaymas isn't particularly tanky but boss battles that take a bit longer will greatly benefit from the enhanced QTE

[glass nacelle]

In my bracket everyone have teri aop kek

[plucky cradle]

you hab SSS teriop

[glass nacelle]

SSS dreamseeker yes

[plucky cradle]

[terse ravine]

Why they do Teri this way, they did Luna so well

[slate elm]

they can't make every teri as big as luna

[glass nacelle]

Lunamid

[naive briar]

Luna was good both gameplay and looks

[verbal mountain]

why is teri aop bad, she looks good for LoA and decent for Vita

[willow perch]

Piyo very good and looks cute

[verbal mountain]

I pull anyway cuz teriteri

https://tenor.com/view/honkai-smile-wide-eye-gif-14530223

[muted mauve]

the only thing bad about Theresa is the voice line about Rita being the one to pick up the suit...

[short knoll]

seem normal to me

[verbal mountain]

maybe a bit less pure dmg buff when comparing sera or songque in their astral rings but she makes up for it with hp loss increase and extra stellar shift

extra stellar shift op

[muted mauve]

They previously said her work clothes was the outfit Otto made...

unless they later say Teri doesn't know, I'm

[naive briar]

I think they are going this way. Teri will never know his grandpa thought of her till his very last moment

[naive briar]

smh hate farming

[prisma tartan]

[rain isle]

Teri Teri

[plucky cradle]

kurowhel moment

[mossy escarp]

kurowhel moment

[unique swallow]

kurowhel moment

[feral epoch]

kurowhel moment

[steep axle]

People are vita ranks any good

Like what if i get s2

[gleaming imp]

If you want ranks why not wait 5-6 patches

[steep axle]

I lowkey like vita bruteforce

I got 900 on hellmaru last time with vita

Or should i get like s2 HoFin

Or HoFin dkey dupes

I need that +10 atk kinda

[gleaming imp]

Why not Ely dk?

[steep axle]

Ely dkey bad

Also i will get that anyways

I doubt even a rank? 3 will fix that dmg

[glass nacelle]

[muted maple]

So when is White comet getting a buffed

[gusty thistle]

pfft DB buff when

[short knoll]

WC got buffed many times tho

look at moriso channel for everytime WC got buffed

[slim lion]

Holy shit massive buff

I'm about to solo abyss with wc

On second thought I'm not kiana is too loud

[prisma tartan]

bruh white comet dkey is not delulu

[short knoll]

you can always put waxing moon on wc

[prisma tartan]

bruh the 2nd one is cooler

[feral epoch]

[gleaming imp]

I like second one the most

[prisma tartan]

the third is free frigid

[glass nacelle]

Kek

[prisma tartan]

yea the 1st and 3rd

[feral epoch]

cooler but that's not Kiana's character

[grand viper]

Blue kiana looks crazy

[unique swallow]

that 2nd one looks sick what the hell

[hoary mountain]

looks like himeko weapons

[limber egret]

I love all of them but I'm okay with the one we got because of the theme of the event. If i have one complaint it would be that I would have liked a different hair style and not the ponytail again. I like quite a lot the 2nd hair style.

And I hope this stays for when Rice cake becomes playable in a human form.

[short knoll]

rice cake ao

[glass nacelle]

Inb4 rice cake is new mem

[dreamy pendant]

Can I just say the kiana we have is cute BUT DAM WE LOST SOME GOOD ONES AS ALWAYS

[dreamy pendant]

Rice cake is a elysia?

[naive briar]

0 points, try again next time

[grand viper]

"We could've had something good / they picked the worst one again"
-people every time they release the concept art

[dreamy pendant]

It’s one of the constant in this game
It will never change tho it’s fine even her current outfit just wished she had the cool sword

Or the blue white color scheme but maybe they went away from that because it’s a cn new year themed character so they kept the typical colors

[dreamy pendant]

[ember locust]

Agreed

[short knoll]

cuter is good too, not everything has to be cooler

[junior nova]

The first one.. katana and braids..

[short knoll]

aponia is still hare boss right?

[copper shale]

abyss? yea

she also new dominance weather

forgot what boss

[short knoll]

jizo iirc

[copper shale]

its like we back in 2018

[short knoll]

new event should be hint for new summon focused ring

[copper shale]

[willow perch]

Summon focused ring

HoV dkey real

[copper shale]

[short knoll]

i mean literally change your valk into a summon

hare but better

[copper shale]

best mobius user

[nova osprey]

Summon based ring, horb lets goo

Maybe horb dkey gives her a summon based ring and heavenly shift tag for qte support

[copper shale]

how long was a gap between hofi dkey and ely dkey

cant be that soon for horb

more importantly if she even gets one

[nova osprey]

3 patch

[copper shale]

so quick

[nova osprey]

Horb dkey next cn anni trust

[feral epoch]

sure

every spending event will have dkey

[nova osprey]

Every major spending event*

[copper shale]

did we have shicksal spending this year

the one where u spend xtals and get dawei card

well last year

[feral epoch]

songque patch

[copper shale]

[clear vigil]

[short knoll]

dkey should be for spending event patch, but next spending event after 8.1 should be mini spending, maybe horb dkey in 8.5

or 8.6

[verbal mountain]

you can buy both character card and stamp in spending shop right (provided you have enough currency)

if so i'm gonna get s2 horb and wait for dkey kek

[short knoll]

dont think you will have enough for s2

[verbal mountain]

bp

[copper shale]

^

horb stamps not in bp

only spending

[verbal mountain]

oh rip

[short knoll]

good chance for horb in next BP i guess

[verbal mountain]

[short knoll]

or free horb

[glass nacelle]

cope

[void dawn]

will Teri AOp fix mini dudu crit issue, i just saw a mini dudu run being an ice dps

[verbal mountain]

yea

no ice dps with teri aop

[void dawn]

teri da goat

[glass nacelle]

make problem sell solution kek

[feral epoch]

ice dps with teri aop

[short knoll]

just dont have a problem smh

be the ice dps

[spice summit]

When’s the next new ice p2 valk

[willow perch]

Believe it or not, Ely dkey is the stand-in for that

[short knoll]

sushang is your best bet, could be soon

p1 ice support, new p2 hoh support

[spice summit]

Idk if I can get ely dkey when kiana’s around the corner

[short knoll]

skip kiana

[willow perch]

I wish to remain in Nirvana, can't

[glass nacelle]

I wish to remain in sinful, can't

[willow perch]

wowee

[feral epoch]

sound:418652140454674432:1097947084730138624

[glass nacelle]

kiana = sena 2.0

no anti-interrupt

[glass nacelle]

[feral epoch]

imagine if next version will be the same

7.3 sd > 8.1 sd
7.4 ice > 8.2 ice
7.5 fire > 8.3 fire

etc

[glass nacelle]

9/10 players have teri aop in my bracket

[steep axle]

Sushang might be an ice support again and then helia ig

Why does it actually fit

[mossy escarp]

Ded

[steep axle]

Oh god

Whalelotus

[glass nacelle]

ded

[unique swallow]

So this means helia must also be a bait skip like lamp

[glass nacelle]

everyone is busy for cny => few people clear abyss => -D trust

[copper shale]

【为了她愿意用上双琪吗?!寻梦者，你这家伙....-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/D2Ve8BU

double kiana based

[glass nacelle]

need s0 sena

[copper shale]

just rotation issue i think, ehich is a damage issue, but its still true that the rotation in the vid won't work cuz of that

[verbal mountain]

ss sena but dreamkeker

[glass nacelle]

[copper shale]

being lucky on fes and raffle

[glass nacelle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1BHFNePELR

nice team

[ember locust]

💀💀 I could see it honestly

[copper shale]

surprised no 840s

its guaymas right

[ember locust]

Naaah please, that would be such a disrespect for her. Plus, her banner could actually fit for the summer release

[copper shale]

thought there will be more of this
【新的星尘天统治者！两套全s0+1阵容ios红莲深渊512高扰动星尘龙虾844/833-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/0mta9wY

[glass nacelle]

still +1D kek

[copper shale]

513?

[glass nacelle]

[copper shale]

ios too competitive

[glass nacelle]

the highest was 516

[copper shale]

oh so it dropped a little sometime ago

[glass nacelle]

ye sea got -3D, same as cn

[copper shale]

really do be just following cn pattern

[copper shale]

[feral epoch]

this is loli kiana when she's exhausted her body will shrink

[nova osprey]

Does anyone have aops comparison for loa

[glass nacelle]

teri or ded

[nova osprey]

[muted mauve]

[glass nacelle]

i got her in 20 pulls, good luck

[copper shale]

did u guys went for dk

[glass nacelle]

[copper shale]

where ss

[glass nacelle]

mid

[nova osprey]

I can either, pity the dkey+s teri, or pity ss teri, which should i pick, ely is s

[copper shale]

rank of sera? we wait for cn to get ranged heph and see how fierce is the competition there ig

my brain is telling me if no ss sera + thel, not worth ely dk

[nova osprey]

I dont have sera

[short knoll]

true gamer only busy playing game

[grand viper]

wdym, people are gonna celebrate cny by playing

[copper shale]

it be easier to decide if we also know she good for ??? ring

but by the time we get it to pull dk we still wont know

[glass nacelle]

[nova osprey]

Imma just gamble that raffle give me 60 pulls so i can pity dkey+ss teri

[copper shale]

[grand viper]

[unreal current]

depending on how much crystal i will have left from getting kiana, hohe new gear vita skin and teri astralop, should I try to get simp teriri or lantern? (only missing those two from p2)

[copper shale]

skip entirely

[nova osprey]

Neither u get ranks or save for new valks

[unreal current]

but not having lantern always puts me into rough spot

[grand viper]

backpulling teri or lamp

[copper shale]

what r ur goals

[glass nacelle]

we get free ticket tmr

[hearty turtle]

[feral epoch]

free lantern when

[copper shale]

scam ticket, only use is building spending

[glass nacelle]

i use it for teri banner. i don't have her

[nova osprey]

Watch me get ranks from it

[glass nacelle]

[nova osprey]

[unreal current]

well just retaining RL but many people got back to rl who was nirvana earlier so every two weeks when lantern would be needed, i just cant compete at all and lose trophies (im on glb)

[copper shale]

[copper shale]

trust by that time. wod/thel should not rerun that often, you be more than fine

u see wod but shouldnt see lamp cuz ice weather

and fire res enemies

[glass nacelle]

~~ ice weather doesn't appear much~~

[unreal current]

wont hohe with new gear also need lantern coz of wod?

[glass nacelle]

maybe only hellmaru

[copper shale]

in all the beta testing so far, no

[nova osprey]

She just needs thel

[copper shale]

yeah if symphony hellmaru

isnt hellmaru bio tho, so u wouldnt even use ely dps but its thel dps, still need lamp tho

[glass nacelle]

ice

[copper shale]

but for rl retain its more than enough

[glass nacelle]

they nerfed ice hellmaru hp

[copper shale]

oh ik theres ice benares, forgot about ice hellmaru

[copper shale]

ah i remember the vid yea

was it typeless hellmaru tho?

[plucky cradle]

[glass nacelle]

mobs are psy, hellmaru is typeless

[copper shale]

yea i dont think we see lamp at all then

[glass nacelle]

kasumi

[copper shale]

oh yea, only one

well ely beats lantern at that

(ss sera + thel)

[unreal current]

i dont have sera at all tho xd

[copper shale]

well either way, i dont think backpulling lantern and quateri is wise

esp if your goal is just rl

[unreal current]

maybe I'll get one with the free twenty pulls 🤡

[copper shale]

[nova osprey]

Id much rather u pull for thel ranks instead

Well wpless teri is usable, got +100 with it once but idk about wpless lamp

[glass nacelle]

the last time ice benares appeared kek

[unreal current]

which rank would worth it?

s2?

[nova osprey]

S2 is great yes

[unreal current]

does a single copy give enough for s2? idk how the new system without the frags work

[nova osprey]

Yes

1 dupe gives 50 now for non awakened s rank

[unreal current]

so getting thel to s2 would be better tahn getting lantern? o.O

[copper shale]

better than weapless lantern that might cost you 100 pulls (if average is supposedly 120 -20 from fes) with very limited use, (you know for sure at least thelema is going to get more usage as she will be used with ely)

60 pulls for weap assuming you do get lucky with fes, but ranks for teri aop seems much better

[terse tinsel]

Then it just HoF 2.0

[unreal current]

is ss or sss worht more on teri astral op?