🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[glass nacelle]

I suddenly realized that duonigue in er is typeless

[ember locust]

Lol you only noticed this now ?

[glass nacelle]

[ember locust]

Silly Hyperion

[dreamy pendant]

We are on same boat

[muted mauve]

It feels squishier

[glass nacelle]

so long

[opaque cloud]

guys

i wanted to ask smth about elysia team's but idk if i should spoiler tag that

[gleaming imp]

Beta and gameplay is out you can ask

[opaque cloud]

ohh ok thanks

i was wondering which part 2 valks would be the best options for her besides vita

[gleaming imp]

Thelema

[opaque cloud]

im still learning all the new mechanics of p2 so im still unsure of how to pair up everyone

[opaque cloud]

even when shes the main dmg dealer?

[gleaming imp]

Yes since thelema provides freeze/rime and shield break

[opaque cloud]

oooh

so like, im currently saving for p2 spending (and plan to get the new hohe set and kiana) so considering i only have vita as a p2 s rank, thelema would be my best option overall to save for?

i was thinking of going after her or durandal after i got kiana and ely

[gleaming imp]

I’d say go for thelema, you already have vita and ely for new Kiana

With thelema you can do ely thelema vita and Kiana ely vita

[opaque cloud]

okii! thanks

i was planning on saving for waxxing moon aswell for vita dps so i could cover 3 elemental weathers

and i would leave phys for last

but hi3's abyss needs so many valks to cover everything i get confused sometimes

[lone grove]

omg tericula devorced from captain??

[main goblet]

basically save for 8.1
with the free carnival pulls, u can try for thelema but she's meh without her weapon
as for the raffle you can try your luck and if you got lucky asf and got her + weapon u can use her
but i would not suggest actually using crystals for her

[ember locust]

No ?

Wait LMFAO

[lone grove]

she took off the ring

[opaque cloud]

im saving for kiana and ely!! people were saying the carnival pity rolls over to the next one, so i should have a little moree chance this time ig?

but since shes not that great without her weapon, maybe i should try lantern instead?

i forgot who are the other 2 valks at the carnival supply

im just thinking of a way to get more coverage in abyss bcz im tired of using vita helia coralie

[ember locust]

Songque and Teri Teri

[opaque cloud]

ohhh

[gleaming imp]

Don’t go for lantern of the p2 s ranks she’s the lowest value and least worth your crystals

[opaque cloud]

so i should go for songque or teriri?

i guess theresa would be the best option since idk if i can guarantee songques weapon

[gleaming imp]

I’d say between the two songque to cover phys

[opaque cloud]

my friend told me shes not that great without her weap

and i dont have any of the astral ops

[small wing]

[versed garden]

no valk is great without weap

[gleaming imp]

Tbf no one is really great without weapon outside of a few exceptions

[small wing]

teri is in carnival supply?

[versed garden]

and if no weap you shouldn't be thinking of astralops

[opaque cloud]

oh

[small wing]

i thought it was sena and the 3 shus

[gleaming imp]

You can just use SS DS/dreamseeker which is free by playing story

[gleaming imp]

Also as a f2p you should never pull for AOPs

[opaque cloud]

im just a lil resitant to use crystals on the carnival supply even if i get songque or teriri early because idk if i can get enough pulls to guarantee the gearr

and i dont know if the pity will go to waste

[versed garden]

carnival was never recommended to use crystals on anyway apart from the free pulls

pity doesn't carry as well

[opaque cloud]

[gleaming imp]

What’s your current funds, like your current crystals and pity on character and weapon?

[opaque cloud]

59 for weapon and character, 28K crystals, 13 weap cards and 1 character card

[north karma]

Tfw i know someone that wasted 40 pulls got nothing and was a few days away from the entire banner ending

[opaque cloud]

im still finishing farming the content i left untouched (finishing new atra and i will start apho 2 very soon)

if math is mathing i should have enough to get both ely and kiana without touching much of the 8.1 funds so i figured i should just save for the next patch

[glass nacelle]

i am f2p

[north karma]

Why the HECK would you ever backpull teri or sonk

[gleaming imp]

Including funds from 8.0 and funds while playing 8.1 you should be good on ely and Kiana, it’ll be another valk that would be unlikely to happen unless major luck on Kiana and ely

[north karma]

Near bottom on the p2 totem poll

[gleaming imp]

So far if all you can confirm is just Kiana and ely dk then skip and wait for next spending event

[opaque cloud]

next spending should be in 8.4 right?

[gleaming imp]

As in get Kiana and weapon and ely dk and then skip til next spending event

[ember locust]

The most worth one is actually SQ due to her support in WoD and LoA and also due to Physical weather coverage

[opaque cloud]

will do

[opaque cloud]

okii thanks

[gleaming harbor]

Carnival pity resets so it's not good to pull on. You can cope with free carolie since rite of oblivion works with any ring type

[ember locust]

If I had to rank in worthness for the Carnival to summon for :

1.Songque
2.Thelema
3.SIMP
4.Lantern

@opaque cloud

[opaque cloud]

so i can use ely coralie and vita for the time being?

[small wing]

So who's on carnival supply?

[ember locust]

@small wing

[gleaming imp]

Yes, and for using Kiana you do Kiana ely vita

[ember locust]

Those 4

[gleaming imp]

Lamp bad real

[opaque cloud]

if songque rerun per chance came by in the next patches, should i try getting her?

or should i just ignore everyone including new valks and save for the next spending

[ember locust]

Lantern waifu in lore but f*cking mid in gameplay, quite a shame

[opaque cloud]

i only get the knight bp so i dont spend much on the game

[gleaming imp]

Do half off multis and wait for next spending event and that’s it I’d say

[opaque cloud]

oki!! so i should look for a physical dps if possible? since with those 2 teams i have a team for every element

[opaque cloud]

oki!

[small wing]

i see

SIMP is the only one i'm missing so ig i'll go her

[ember locust]

Tbh depends on your plans but be aware that due to Theresa's AOP passive, there might be a RoO valk in the next patch after 8.1

But Songque seems worth it for Physical DPS and LoA support. I have not idea if it's the worthest you can go for though

[north karma]

We been saying roo valk for the last 2 patches

Atp new ar might come first

[opaque cloud]

hmmm... its just that i think between all the weathers, a physical team seems like the one i would have to invest the most into

because im missing 2/3 if i count vita in

if i dont use vita im missing everyone

[glass nacelle]

[mossy escarp]

🐳

[glass nacelle]

f2pbtw

[short knoll]

where is ely gameplay with her skin

[edgy drift]

It works extremly poorly with LoA tho

no shift skill, no qte reset, no ARi

[rustic sinew]

is this from ggz

[small wing]

yeah

[gleaming imp]

Besties

[abstract night]

Wepless sq goes hard

[ember locust]

Weapless SIMP is even worse

Not even mentionning Lantern weapless

[abstract night]

As a dps?
Yes
Support?
No comment, id have to look at calcs

Lantern dps?
Yes
Latern support can use helia wep

[gleaming imp]

Since mobius still has a top score boss and stigmata is farmable and her weapon could probably be gotten from a FP does this mean that mobius would the recommended choice from box for f2ps/players Since her ranks are farmable

[abstract night]

Sw isnt farmable

[gleaming imp]

This is about my snake queen

[abstract night]

Is firepower even in 8.1

[gleaming imp]

It should last one was 7.3

[abstract night]

There was?

Lemme look

[verbal mountain]

i mean if nothing else to farm and have the supports for her sure? not really a prio tho

[slim lion]

No because mobius is right there in the shop
For xtals purposes you go with someone who isn't in shop

[ember locust]

L o l, Firepower might be just dead

[slim lion]

Unless u got sw last time then probably
But not like mobuis is functional without decent supports

[verbal mountain]

players who have the lightning supports could farm for her from wt and her stigs,though it'd be resource intensive and weapon is the hard part

like theoretically if you're aiming for nirv retain and have the resources sure, otherwise there are other options in rl and below

[gleaming imp]

[opaque cloud]

guys is there an updated tierlist on part 2 character values?

[gleaming imp]

But free Valk with top score

[abstract night]

Gear where
Supports where

[verbal mountain]

she's garbage without new supports and costs a shit ton to get built from scratch

[gleaming imp]

You just need eden and hotruth

[verbal mountain]

copium

lv and quateri or die

eden hotruth works but so do other valks that aren't mobius

[main goblet]

no, just keep the crystals for new characters only
also all valks need their weapon
either way save enough for kiana + her wp + hohe dkey and wait
from the current raffle if you win the character box with weapon then you're likely to pick que for physical content and to work with new kiana and kinda with hohe dkey
if you get the character card but no wp it would be sucky but follow above
for carnival supply you can try for songque if you didn't get her, if you got her then maybe try thelema

note for carnival supply and raffle, its very very rng if you win from them so don't depend so much on them and keep grinding and saving for new characters

[shrewd socket]

if anyone tells you "X recent valk can work without her weapon" they're coping

or they could not see the sun outside agony

[opaque cloud]

ohh

ok guys thanks

ill save for the 8.2 valk after getting ely and kiana or wait for the next spending

[gleaming imp]

What happened to the good old days of valks doing fine without weapon like mobius and lv

[shrewd socket]

they never did

[gleaming imp]

Wait for next spending

[ember locust]

Oh yeah, you need to pull everything when going for chara

[shrewd socket]

ER doesn't count

[muted mauve]

Mobius doesn't count. Judah is just broken

[gleaming imp]

Judah pri when?

[main goblet]

not really no, characters have their bosses so even if a new valk with the same element or type shows up they may not have the same skills to be better than the og valk
the rule of thumb is to just focus on investing in new valks and ofc u can also ask about them just incase the valk after them is more worth it or for special cases like 8.1 where we have a spending event so you would skip 8.0 if you don't have enough

[muted mauve]

Also PE dudu had like 30% of her Kit locked behind her weapon

[main goblet]

just know that it's normal to skip a patch or two if your income doesn't allow for it and sometimes there are valks that aren't that high of a value on release to make it worth pulling for or are overshadowed by the next version being better

[slim lion]

LV?
really?

[opaque cloud]

if i get songque i can use her with herrscher of rebirth until i get p2 supports right?

[gleaming imp]

Yes, Judah tm Zeno b cez iirc was good alternative

[shrewd socket]

use her as a Kiana support

[main goblet]

well horb can support her but you're better off pairing her with ur p2 valks

[slim lion]

was

[main goblet]

que can't support horb, no p2 valks can (well ig dudu can but i don't think its worth the trouble since u can just use dudu as the dps instead)

[opaque cloud]

yes

[ember locust]

Possible but you're better to use WoD valks and Sera Astral OP

[slim lion]

Horb dkey will save us

[shrewd socket]

[shrewd socket]

yangyang mentioned

[ember locust]

Look at her being the next RoO valk

[opaque cloud]

by the end of 8.1 ill only have ely wod

[slim lion]

We love yapyap in this house

[ember locust]

[opaque cloud]

so thats why im curious about other alternatives to at least get through some phys weathers until i can form a proper p2 phys team

[gleaming imp]

You should also pick up s2 horb if able to from spending event and shop

[main goblet]

u have vita yeah?
if u got a lucky que u can do
new kiana, que, vita (one can be replaced by ellie dkey if better)
que, ellie dkey, vita
ellie dkey, que, vita

[slim lion]

Any ring is fine just let me enjoy my expired character

[slim lion]

Got s2 from adv
Gonna get SS from shop

[gleaming imp]

Horb isn't expired she still has starless

[opaque cloud]

yep! ill try those teams, thaanks!!

[shrewd socket]

which you can't build

[main goblet]

if u don't get que and have no other options then in the third team use coralie

[ember locust]

Bro you do realize that NONE of the Starless bosses have reran yet

[slim lion]

Yea and it hasn't had rerun yet and I am pretty sure dudu took it

[ember locust]

It's just like a Final Dance at this point

[gleaming imp]

They'll rerun eventually

[shrewd socket]

my HoRb is probably staying 3/4 bc there's no chance i can build a starless phys team

[abstract night]

Hasnt sk rerun atleast once? Or am i being delulu

[gleaming imp]

Twice iirc

[oak yarrow]

? starless sk reran
and mpe took it both times

[abstract night]

Unless it was ranked HoRb

[slim lion]

I mean she is featured in bp so you can 4/4 her

Next version I mean

[gleaming imp]

surely it'll be horb with new dudu to support her right?

[main goblet]

actually since now that we know what will be in 8.1 bp, is the main priority still HoT dkey?

[oak yarrow]

if u were whale enough for ss horb u were whale enough for a ranked p2 team

[shrewd socket]

i would have to buy it on vintage

[main goblet]

if not owned ofc

[shrewd socket]

i used 2 balls from this patch for 7T

[oak yarrow]

u better hope so

[slim lion]

Ah I see

[abstract night]

...cant MPE also use dudu..?

[opaque cloud]

horb's joining the bp in 8.1 or 8.2?

[gleaming imp]

[slim lion]

8.1

[abstract night]

[shrewd socket]

that is unless someone gifts me knight, which isn't happening

[slim lion]

Or win raffle

[abstract night]

HoRbs gear is 8.1 if u meant that*

[opaque cloud]

oh

[shrewd socket]

card and stamps in spending shop

[gleaming imp]

Just get paladin from raffle

[shrewd socket]

literally can't

[abstract night]

Oh yeahhh spending

Forgot lol

[main goblet]

her card in spending event is in 8.1 (u have to buy to get)
her gear in bp
idk if 8.2 will have her card tho

[shrewd socket]

it'd be funny if za warudo appears in next BP

[gleaming imp]

Who's that?

[oak yarrow]

dkey

[shrewd socket]

HoR dkey

[gleaming imp]

Oh

I tried my hor recently on raven it went

[abstract night]

It went.??

[gleaming imp]

Terrible

[slim lion]

Horribly
As it should

[abstract night]

How is ur jk and kira gear wise

[opaque cloud]

im saving for the hotr card so i got scared for a moment thinking she would leave sooner then i expected

thanks for the info

[gleaming imp]

Not even 4/4 jk and 4/4 Kira would've helped

[slim lion]

"Alternative gear!"

[gleaming imp]

Kira on tmb bronya zaychik and jk on tb turg m avocado

I am contemplating on crafting m bastet for my Kira but like no point

[abstract night]

An S0 Valkyrie with built supports (maybe not an old asf one but you get the point) > SSS/ranked valkyrie with cope gear and cope supports

@gleaming imp

[slim lion]

Tell that to dry not me

[gleaming imp]

Alternative gear since I'm poor

[abstract night]

U have 70k+ xtals

That is not poor

[slim lion]

"Poor"
-has like 70k or something

[gleaming imp]

Erm um actually 74k and 23 focus tickets* 🤓

[abstract night]

I said
70k+
So
Same thing

[gleaming imp]

I am poor since 42k of that can't be spent

[abstract night]

32k xtals

U can afford an S0 4/4 pt2 valk

[gleaming imp]

Yes that's poor since I need to afford kiana and weapon and Ely dk and eepy teri weapon

[abstract night]

Sleepy teri wep shouldnt be there.

U dont own sci

[gleaming imp]

But better to get eept teri weapon on spending event than not spending event

[oak yarrow]

how about just dont get it

[gleaming imp]

But I'm committing to ss eepy teri

[abstract night]

What if u get sleepy teri from free carnival pulls

[main goblet]

according to 7.8 carnival supply, the free tickets won't help getting u a weapon

[oak yarrow]

but shes not even on it

[abstract night]

Yes she is

[gleaming imp]

I'm using them on thelema

Apparently Ely needs thelema badly

[main goblet]

tbh u should aim for s first

[ember locust]

@subtle wharf Yes

[gleaming imp]

But ss is just 28k

[ember locust]

For your questiin

[abstract night]

7.4<->7.7

Those are the S ranks

[subtle wharf]

thxx

[main goblet]

your gonna suck ur savings dry
also who knows if 8.2+ valks are worth it

[abstract night]

Then pull thelema wep not teri wep

[gleaming imp]

I'll get both I get thelema from the 2 free multis

[abstract night]

Thelema without her weapon is literally a trashcan

[gleaming imp]

[main goblet]

all valks tbh

[abstract night]

Support Sena begs to differ

[main goblet]

it's just more painful for dpses

[gleaming imp]

Not my snake queen

[main goblet]

u don't want to aim for a 3/4 valks anyways

[abstract night]

I got sena from the carnival so im set

Sorry didnt mean to reply

Mobile issues

[gleaming imp]

That's actually really lucky

[abstract night]

:,)

[gleaming imp]

Manifestating thelema from my two carnival multis

[abstract night]

I just need mobius to own all the lightning valks <3

[edgy drift]

And she still did bad on anything aside from SSS Andrius with Judah

[gleaming imp]

Get from box

[abstract night]

Need to get her from wt first

[edgy drift]

-35%

[ember locust]

Like all valks

[abstract night]

Sena support.

[gleaming imp]

But f2p friendly

[edgy drift]

Thelema is even worse than others

[edgy drift]

wasn't

[gleaming imp]

[edgy drift]

pulls are f2p btw

[abstract night]

Where tf r u getting zeno tm and cez b

[gleaming imp]

Off rates like I did

[oak yarrow]

off rates are for whales

[edgy drift]

I haven't gotten a single Zeno ever

[oak yarrow]

no one pulls p1

[abstract night]

U dont even own lv this isnt relelvant to u

[gleaming imp]

People uses Zeno for eepy teri iirc on starless

[ember locust]

Zeno is becoming craftable next patch lol

[abstract night]

Sorry

In 7.0*

[oak yarrow]

yeah but starless taken by hoo

[ember locust]

Oh that

[abstract night]

Also lins farmable if u wanna say that

[edgy drift]

and she also loses her entire support role

[ember locust]

Rip

[edgy drift]

because that's all in her stigs

[gleaming imp]

But lv has support in her ranks

[edgy drift]

pull ranks but not gear, very f2p friendly approach sure sure

ranks still barely amount to a fraction of what her stigs give

[abstract night]

S1
3% breach
S2
30% ldm
S3
Lead
SS
Little more breach and ult dmg
SS1
Sp increase (personal)
SS2
+20% to her tdm thing on frenzy combo to entire team
SS3
Lead
SSS
inital sp?

Compared to stigs which is

More than. That

[gleaming imp]

If I only I had hindsight

[abstract night]

Hindsight to what

[oak yarrow]

if only someone told u to stop pulling adv

[gleaming imp]

If I knew about advs from the very beginning

[abstract night]

Im quitting if i was forced to pull only adv

[gleaming imp]

But adv shiny and satisfying when you see shiny 1/20 +100

[edgy drift]

imagine exclusively pulling valk after they died

so you never see a boss where they're used

[abstract night]

Its fine as a side goal tho imo

I barley got to use aponia on sushang

BECAUSE IT NEVER SHOWS UP

(Specifically post 7.0)
Aponia gd kira ...wasnt exactly good

[mild owl]

advs are like buying a game because it got cheaper after eos was announced

i dont get it

[abstract night]

Idt it showed up much anyways

[edgy drift]

there was one on Eepy patch wasn't there ?

[abstract night]

I was sleepy teri wepless... :(

BUT I DID get 3rd

[edgy drift]

and that's about it

and one in 7.1

before that was 6.6 and 6.1

so about 2 per year

[abstract night]

Not bad tbhh

761 is pretty good

[alpine leaf]

how much better is hohe ice team vs thelema?

[gleaming imp]

But having SS hofin and SS hotruth post hofin dk

[abstract night]

U have S2 and SS right?

[edgy drift]

that sure helped you on their 1 boss that ran

[gleaming imp]

S2 hofin s0 hotruth

[abstract night]

Goodbye

[mild owl]

doesn't really make sense to compare, they have opposite type counters

[edgy drift]

it's like HoH vs HoR SoE before, HoH retakes the stuff she had, Thelema gets the HoR stuff (+ her new stuff that released for her like Raven)

[shrewd socket]

HoHe is PSY ranged
Thel is MECH meele

[alpine leaf]

worth pulling just for the type counter if I have thelema already?

[mild owl]

worth pulling for +10 atk~

[abstract night]

Its 60 pulls for an essentially 4/4 pt2 valk

[alpine leaf]

I do have Elysia from beginner supply way back though, used to be my ice team with shushang and kira before thelema

[alpine leaf]

yeah that plus the dk attack bonus sounds good though

[abstract night]

Same LOL

[ember locust]

@alpine leaf Same and the amount of luck was hella insane

[abstract night]

WYM WHALE

Its RL with
S0 S ranks and SSS sp ranks

@steep axle HOW IS THAT BEING A WHALE

[steep axle]

im typing with and a pencil

and yes thats a whale

[abstract night]

Why??

[steep axle]

.why not

Why does it add the.

melp

help

[ember locust]

Progress to 8.1

[worthy helm]

was nobody gonna tell me

[mint cape]

Guys when's version 8.1 releasing

[main goblet]

21 feb

[mint cape]

WHAT

[main goblet]

we just started 8.0

[mint cape]

[main goblet]

[mint cape]

Wasn't it 8.0 when sparkle came out

??

[edgy drift]

7.9

[main goblet]

no that's 7.9

were in 8.0 rn

[mint cape]

😢

[halcyon sparrow]

i have hoFI + dkey, vita, coralie SSS, going to pull for new kiana, who else shoudl i pull for (i don't have HoHE cause i was busy 😭 )

[willow perch]

20*

[dry delta]

timezones*

[willow perch]

It is Feb 20th for everyone on the planet

[dry delta]

I'm pretty sure theres at least 1 timezone thats +12 hours

[willow perch]

The patch goes live on the 20th so save me your incessant confident wrongness

[main goblet]

oh ty for correcting

[dry delta]

Woww ok "Incessant" getting the thesauras

[willow perch]

I just don't appreciate when someone walks into something with the wrong info and doubles down all the time, that's all

[muted mauve]

[worthy helm]

hey uh the patch things are accurate right because someone's saying that fov isnt actually coming back and im getting worried

[slim lion]

Hey! Please check #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion
Pins section for current version schedule + next version schedule
Currently we only have this version schedule which fov is not included and as for next version schedule it is not up yet
However do check that channel's Pins regularly incase of a potential fov rerun :)

[worthy helm]

ah

[slim lion]

Too soon for news! Gotta wait a lil bit :D

[worthy helm]

i just checked the pins and it's in the 8.0 supply calendar thingy?

[mild owl]

as in the 8.0 rerun isn't actually happening?

[worthy helm]

im talking about this

sorry if im confusing anyone

[slim lion]

Yes like I said, right now we only have a calendar for this version only which doesn't mention fov rerun

We have yet to see 8.1 calendar

Need to wait on that

[worthy helm]

what does this mean then im so confused

[mild owl]

the 8.0 calendar does mention fov rerun though

[willow perch]

Yes FoV has an ADV supply for 8.0

[worthy helm]

what does adv mean in this context btw

[willow perch]

Advanced Supply has 100 pity and a 1% drop-rate for S-rank (lowered from 1.5% on battlesuit sup.) Every 10 pulls rewards you with a stamp for the up-rated valk up to 100 pulls

[worthy helm]

a rank-up stamp?

[slim lion]

. ..wait why did I say we don't have fov supply...
And why did I think this is gacha salt-
I think I should sleep- whoops

[willow perch]

It's for a quick way to level the valk, not recommended to pull on if you don't have said valk as it doesn't carry pity

(and if you aren't aware, you can't use stamps on a valk you don't own)

[worthy helm]

i figured
now i have to check, fov is in the supply, right? not just the stamps?

[willow perch]

Yes

[worthy helm]

[willow perch]

It is her ADV supply for a reason

[worthy helm]

i canNOT miss her again i will cry for longer than i did last time

[slim lion]

Wait it's adv?
I thought its normal supply

[worthy helm]

thanks for clearing the confusion

[atomic coral]

they're not just gonna have stamps on the banner, the valk is there too

[willow perch]

[slim lion]

Ohhhh

[willow perch]

Feb 7-20th

[abstract night]

Isnt FoV's adv banner better than her regular banner?

[slim lion]

Usually there is SS next to adv valks

[willow perch]

nuh uh

[slim lion]

So my brain automatically assumed its normal supply

[slim lion]

Wasn't it?

[willow perch]

(you're right Im joking)

7.9 for ex

Much clearer there, odd the graphic was changed this time

[slim lion]

Oh!
I was trying to find last version schedule u were faster haha

[abstract night]

I also thought it was a normal banner :')

[slim lion]

Yea that's why I was confused why u said adv

[willow perch]

[distant lagoon]

time to write a complaint towards marisa

[willow perch]

It's time to revoke Marisa

[slim lion]

Not the revoke!

[abstract night]

They're no longer marisa, now just Maisa

[willow perch]

They are now

_ _

When you say Marisa I say

_ _

(if Mori sees this hi)

[distant lagoon]

should i ping?

[willow perch]

[mild owl]

weird, no graphic (including the valk) is showing for me on adv banners even with adblock off

[willow perch]

hmm?

[slim lion]

Time to sleep
Goodnight chai!

[willow perch]

Goodnight Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiily!

(mot aboos)

[slim lion]

at least u didn't call me filly

[distant lagoon]

MOD ABOOS!!

[shrewd socket]

MOOOOOOOTTSS

[muted mauve]

[willow perch]

Poor Carv

[ancient axle]

has there been any testing on how elysia+kiana perform with small dudu yet

[dry delta]

absolutely

marisa honkai video about badum kiana

🦡 k

[ancient axle]

i mean dudu dps

[gleaming imp]

Adv good, you should pull fov on her adv

You'll get her at shiny SS

[abstract night]

Probably the one valk thats good to pull on adv for. Vs regular banner.

First banner tho > the others

[gleaming imp]

Also vill v and hotruth

[ember locust]

Then after 8.& = FoV Dead

[abstract night]

No..not really

[distant lagoon]

FoV definitely dead after the arrival of an actual good p2 fire DPS

[gleaming imp]

FoV dkey after horb

[abstract night]

FoV isnt a herrscher

[gleaming imp]

Lamp bad

[gleaming imp]

So, himeko and dudu aren't

[distant lagoon]

who allowed you to take copium again?

[abstract night]

Fair enough

[gleaming imp]

She's a main cast character she'll get one

[main goblet]

i mean yeah ppl can use new kiana for fire but fov still wins against starless (rimestar specifically) and psy

at least no fire copium

[ember locust]

What ? Kiana is good enough though, it's just she's not BIO

[distant lagoon]

but she´s SD = neutral against all other types besides SD

[main goblet]

fov did get a buff with sparkle

[distant lagoon]

so does new kiana get

[main goblet]

not that i would recommend getting fov at this point tho

[gleaming imp]

I just use hofin on fov shill and get top 3

[main goblet]

that doesn't mean that new kiana replaces fov tho
that's the main point

[oak yarrow]

fov dead

[ember locust]

She's still better than Sparkle (sorry but it's true)

[gleaming imp]

More so hofin with dk brute forces and also no one has fov really

[ember locust]

Absolutely not recommended

[oak yarrow]

everyone has fov
ranked trio is just really good

[distant lagoon]

sparkle is pretty much just support, new kiana is full blood DPS and sparkle supports LoA chars

[gleaming imp]

They do? I never see any just hofin/trio

[oak yarrow]

too low ranked abys

[main goblet]

yeah but i was saying that fov Isn't forgotten thanks for sparkle being a new support for her

[gleaming imp]

Then again she has rerun constantly nonstop

[distant lagoon]

the only abyss i gonna see FoV in 8.1 onwards will be type-counter husk-nihilus but just because hoyo bullies bio chars and she´s the latest one

[shrewd socket]

who's everyone

[oak yarrow]

everyone in nirvana except for me

[main goblet]

about sd, yeah sd is winning with having no type disadvantage which is great, but in general valks with type advantage will still do better as long as the players have them, and i don't see it impossible for there to be a new type that interacts with sd like how img is with qua
ofc there's no info about it yet but it's not impossible

i don't mean that sd or kiana is bad, but i don't see her as a complete powerhouse for all fire weathers, i hope im not confusing

[shrewd socket]

she is for now

[ember locust]

"Everyone in Nirvana" = 10% max of the players, nothing more, could be even less

[shrewd socket]

the present matters as well

[ember locust]

And even like that

[main goblet]

yeah but it's still v2 beta

[ember locust]

I'm exagerrating the stat

[main goblet]

even if kiana stays strong, saying that she powercreeps previous fire valks is an overexaggeration imo, but i do admire her current kit

and i think she's still a great pull

[oak yarrow]

its not hard to powercreep the previous fire valks

u have p1 valks, fraud lantern, and hofi that needs ranks

[gleaming imp]

You're so real for that fraud lantern, lamp bad

[ember locust]

I mean seeing the current weathers added, it's not gonna be for that (Fire Weathers)

[full iris]

Someone pulled the stats during an argument, I don't remember but it's like, single digits, under 5% even I think

[main goblet]

that's her weathers, im talking about the old ones

[gleaming imp]

She can brute force without type disadvantage

[oak yarrow]

where is this stat even coming from

[full iris]

So really most players don't really care in the end

[main goblet]

once the old ones go, sure, but they're still there

[full iris]

It was during anni livestream where they were showing fun facts

[distant lagoon]

yk the abyss for monday is shadow star tank

[full iris]

It was something time ago but I think the numbers probably didn't rise much

[gleaming imp]

Just use hofin or vita

[ember locust]

That's true though, I can't even believe that Fire valks were really that mid (outside of HoF ☠️☠️)

Sirin is complete dogshit from the beginning to the end

Lantern is mid at best

Sparkle's DPS is terrible

FoV was nice but was thrown as bait for P2

[full iris]

unless a bunch suddenly woke up and went: yes mald nirv

[main goblet]

good morning what did i say...

[distant lagoon]

yk what that weather means...

[ember locust]

And not only HoFi needs ranks but she also needs her other S Ranks buddies : HoTr and HoO

[abstract night]

Quantum released 3.1ish
Imaginary release 5.2
SD released 7.1
(valk wise)

[gleaming imp]

As long as I retain I'm good

[willow perch]

Nah you'll just be remains

[distant lagoon]

ngl i wish you get obliterated by LDS havers.

[ember locust]

Because Kiana is :

https://tenor.com/view/hof-kiana-herrscher-gif-23761028

[ember locust]

Also sad seeing the state of QUA and IMG lmfao

[willow perch]

https://tenor.com/view/exploding-star-trek-picard-boom-exploding-planet-paramount-plus-gif-21804218

[ember locust]

While Stardust is living it's best moment of life

[abstract night]

...meh

[ember locust]

QUA and IMG are freaking dead except one or 2 valks

[desert smelt]

Guys what is LoA💔💔💔💔

[ember locust]

Of each type

[main goblet]

tbh sd is still new

[main goblet]

law of Ascension, new astra ring

[desert smelt]

Thanks

[main goblet]

currently used by dudu and new kiana

[desert smelt]

Is the new kiana good

[oak yarrow]

calling qua and img dead is crazy

their weathers run so often

[ember locust]

Nah nah that's true, while SD is new : they got actually 3 additions that are quite good, ngl. They are litterally meta.

IMG : Dudu only
QUA : Sparkle, SIMP is coping

[main goblet]

she does but its still v2 beta so we'll wait to see how much she changes from rn
if the question is about saving crystals, yes save for 8.1

[distant lagoon]

plz no more Qua weather varahals or Vitas

[ember locust]

QUA running often ? IMG, I can believe you, but QUA... Before Sparkle and SIMP, it was coming as much as me seeing my great-gramps

[desert smelt]

I already spent it all for new dudu 💔

[oak yarrow]

why mention the past? they arent dead now so they arent dead

[main goblet]

you still have time, grind for now

[desert smelt]

Where do I even grind , and don't say elysia 😭

[full iris]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion message
Found it It's part 1 data but should be around the same range but won't be hitting two digits any time soon

[main goblet]

if you're new or barely progressed (mainly p1 story) you have a lot of sources to regain crystals

[ember locust]

Bro the QUA weather itself, we got it only once since SIMP release and it was for her. The rest was just Resonance or Fire

[desert smelt]

Im lvl 86...

[ember locust]

Ok I'm exageratting

It's 2

But still

[oak yarrow]

p1 is so far
na died around 7.6

[abstract night]

HoFi?

[oak yarrow]

yeah and its qua typing bosses...

[ember locust]

HoFi with her buddies

Because HoFi alone lol

[main goblet]

do these if you didn't finish them #👶beginner-help message
you'll still need to do ER, abyss and stuff because they're a renewal source of crystals, dw, take it easy
if dudu did suck ur crystals dry, well i don't think you'll have enough but it's still worth trying
also we'll get some freebies btw

[ember locust]

(Like every DPS kekw)

[distant lagoon]

HoFi getting dragged away by Vita for her DPS

[abstract night]

HoFi alone is a support
A really good WS detonator and vita support and i dont remember what else

[desert smelt]

I'm on pity 80 and weapon banner pity 40

[main goblet]

did you get dudu's weapon?

[ember locust]

I swear for CNY, they're making us eat

[desert smelt]

I'll just snatch the set from my Hofi If I get the new kiana

[desert smelt]

2

[ember locust]

(Except for that terrible spending event shop choice ☠️)

[main goblet]

no no that won't do u need a 4/4 valk aka a valk with their sig gear

[ember locust]

2 ?

[smoky lintel]

Stigmata will be craftable anyway you really want the weapon though

[desert smelt]

I know mane 💔😔

[main goblet]

oh wow, a lucky pull or did ur hands tickle u when u were pulling lmao

[ember locust]

5 chara pulls and 5 gear pulls if I remember well

[desert smelt]

I got 2 dude weapon in 14 pulls 🔥🔥🔥

[ember locust]

☠️☠️ Heyo

[desert smelt]

But i got dudu at pity 8 so that evens it out

[ember locust]

Syn2 weap, great

[ember locust]

You're good to save for Kiana, congrats

[distant lagoon]

5 pulls for 1 wep

[main goblet]

alr just start saving for now

don't pull anything for now until 8.1 comes

[desert smelt]

My f2p ass is praying 😭

[smoky lintel]

Gimme that luck for Ely Dkey I want that +5 attack

[main goblet]

then u can see how much you can get

[desert smelt]

I barely pull because I'm f2p 💔💔

I'll get that like log in reward in like 10 days so im good to go actually

[main goblet]

it do be like that but for now let dudu carry u

[desert smelt]

Tamala

[distant lagoon]

HOVERBOARD ACTION

[desert smelt]

Ice queen is carrying me in abyss 😭

[ember locust]

Wait is that HoHe we're talking about ?

[main goblet]

hohe? thelema?

[desert smelt]

I tend to forget their names

[main goblet]

show a pic or gif

[ember locust]

Elysia or Thelema ?

[desert smelt]

Thelema

[distant lagoon]

definitely not HoV in frigid empress outfit

[desert smelt]

4/4 and she's carrying me

[main goblet]

good to know

[desert smelt]

Idk abt yall she does more dmg than 4/4 dudu for me

[main goblet]

kinda sucks that thelema does nothing to dudu but at least you can sandwich dudu with thelema even if she's not the best option as a WoD support

unless u have better options

[smoky lintel]

Probably because you don't have good LoA supports

[desert smelt]

I got 1/4 songque (stig) and 1/4 senadia (also stig)🔥🔥🔥🔥

[distant lagoon]

you say Vita, Sparkle and Songque are bad at supporting LoA chars?

nvm

[main goblet]

you should forge their stigs at least

[desert smelt]

No colourful block 🔥💔

[oak yarrow]

no weapon no point

[main goblet]

sena can at least still support
for que well uh

[desert smelt]

Exactly

[distant lagoon]

and that definitely for songque: her weapon changes her playstyle a lot

[abstract jungle]

craftable stigs are a myth invented by people that somehow got prisms

[main goblet]

ig u can try exploring at least once for the wp box in the raffle but i won't depend on that

[distant lagoon]

went with 52 prism into 8.0

[desert smelt]

I got NO prisms NO crystals NO money

[main goblet]

since que is one of the different valks to use with LoA dpses

[desert smelt]

Im just a chill f2p guy who's trying to gamble

[main goblet]

no wonder u don't have money........./j

[desert smelt]

How do you even earn crystals as endgame other than abyss , elysian n weekly resets

[desert smelt]

I gambled it all away on roblox.. got nothing left for honkai

[main goblet]

dailies, events and just complete story and stuff

abyss and ER are the main and most consistent sources of crystals

[desert smelt]

I ain't gna lie I haven't even finished chapter one of the stories because they bore me

[main goblet]

story is a crystal bank if you didn't finish it

[smoky lintel]

If your RL you will get around 1300 crystals per week so those are still very good sources

Only with abyss and ER

[desert smelt]

It's too time consuming and I skip every dialog anyways

[desert smelt]

Guys I'm not good with abbreviations what's rl

[atomic coral]

red lotus

[desert smelt]

Thanks

[distant lagoon]

2nd hardest abyss group

[main goblet]

i wonder what u play honkai for if you dont care about the story at all lel

[desert smelt]

For the waifus?

[atomic coral]

girls look gud

[desert smelt]

And gambling ofc

[main goblet]

but but u can see ur waifus in story

[distant lagoon]

and that in well animated CGs

[desert smelt]

I'm glad himeko is dead

[ember locust]

(It's 1500, not 1300 if you count ER + RL Abyss)

[distant lagoon]

[desert smelt]

It's even better when you see them battle

[main goblet]

[desert smelt]

Hot take, I hate her fighting style

[smoky lintel]

Oh right forgot the 200 you get for clearing per week

[desert smelt]

I like faster attacks okay 💔

[ember locust]

I hate Claymore in general

[desert smelt]

You get me

[distant lagoon]

himeko battle suits are from 2019 and before so what do you expect

[smoky lintel]

Claymore is dead anyway

[ember locust]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[desert smelt]

But when i play the story I'm forced to play her and I HATE it

[main goblet]

oh u didn't try himeko's last battlesuit....

it changes soon

[ember locust]

Would be funny if it returns somehow like how Lance/Spear got back

[main goblet]

game does like to force trials but for some chapters u get options

[desert smelt]

I joined like at 3.4 and even back then she was already dead

Like i never even noticed her except for the story

[willow perch]

Naw Fervent Tempo in 4.3 was pretty goated

[desert smelt]

Shhhhhhhhh

[main goblet]

[willow perch]

[desert smelt]

The real psychopaths are the people who read every single dialog okay

[willow perch]

#📚honkai-lore is our resident psyche ward then

[desert smelt]

Basically

[desert smelt]

No because how do you sit through every dialog and analyse every detail without getting bored of them long ahh dialogs

[willow perch]

Because not everyone has limited attention spans, they have passion, they have many reasons

[desert smelt]

Just put the fries in the bag bro

[willow perch]

What are you on about

[desert smelt]

Opium

[distant lagoon]

hey the recent chapter has some quite interesting details

[willow perch]

Extremely good details even, I feel bad for people skipping all of that

[desert smelt]

I skip dialogs in every game possible 💔

[willow perch]

Doesn't mean everyone else should

[distant lagoon]

also khai are we allowed to talk about details in the current chapter in normal channels?

[atomic coral]

gacha players be like "i can't read this, it's too long"

[willow perch]

It's past the grace period so it should be good now

[desert smelt]

I told you guys I'm here for the gambling

[smoky lintel]

Still some people enjoy the story cuz it's good do what you want but some people just like it how you dislike it

[willow perch]

[versed garden]

you just be a normal person with average reading comprehension skills?

[distant lagoon]

i want to play chapter 7 EX now

[main goblet]

i was talking about himeko trial hell lel

[willow perch]

[abstract jungle]

wdym average? like, people that can read 1 tweet? it should be slightly above average for gacha players.

[desert smelt]

I sit through books , but not on games where i want to gamble

Like my main priority is collecting and gambling , not storyline

[distant lagoon]

imagine we get a mars version of himeko

[smoky lintel]

Your loss story is goated

[main goblet]

tbh that's up to u, just know that it's the main part of the game

[willow perch]

Getting a Himeko from a billion years ago

[desert smelt]

Better not be with a claymore

[distant lagoon]

sh*t she would be technically also dead

[main goblet]

~~look at hof, she's pistols user but uses claymore animation
look at lv, she's a cross user but uses a chainsaw as heavy as a claymore (or more) ~~

[willow perch]

Luna Vow with her Dual heavy Chainswords

[atomic coral]

her weapon could be a toothpick and it'll still turn into a great sword in battle

[desert smelt]

And what , I use neither of those

[willow perch]

[willow perch]

Jade Knight using gauntlets but attacks with ice sword minigun

BRRRRR

[desert smelt]

I dont even have lv and isn't she kinda outdated

[main goblet]

nah nah, none of it is interesting, im waiting for a chair user that just casually slaps chairs at all the enemies

[desert smelt]

Same for herrscher of ego (???)

[willow perch]

WATCH OUT WATCH OUT WATCH OUT

Oh she broke em in half

[atomic coral]

BAW GAWD

[willow perch]

🪑

[smoky lintel]

Peak game design

[desert smelt]

I honestly want that too

[main goblet]

fuuuvk, now i have to buy from ikea again!

[willow perch]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-gif-5713135419208299272

[distant lagoon]

imagine defeating enemies with just the power of... words!

[main goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/zelda-cadeira-de-ferro-echoes-of-wisdom-the-legend-of-zelda-funny-gif-4742744356918570109

[prisma tartan]

teri cube

[prisma tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-down-angry-dissapointed-teri-teri-vr-gif-10001253996280331122

[willow perch]

ermm

[desert smelt]

They should make a collab with mlp so they can only defeat enemies with the power of friendship

[willow perch]

duducube

[smoky lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/throwingof-chair-gif-7512430

[willow perch]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-robin-hsr-robin-vrchat-robin-hsr-upset-robin-upset-gif-12968034294619217488

[main goblet]

peak gameplay

[smoky lintel]

I wanna throw this against Otto he tortured me today

[distant lagoon]

now i actually want the event but it´s past midnight

[prisma tartan]

go to sleep smh

[desert smelt]

B-but the grind

[distant lagoon]

and what time is it for you?

[main goblet]

grind in ur dreams

[willow perch]

anger how dare this be timegated

[desert smelt]

But then I can't gamble 😞

[main goblet]

gamble in ur dreams then grind in rl

[ember locust]

"AHAHAHAHAHAH"

https://tenor.com/view/lunar-vow-crimson-love-honkai-honkai-impact-3rd-crimson-love-lunar-vow-gif-1356759241893999127

Litterally Luna XD

[willow perch]

Images that go hard

[desert smelt]

Oh yeah is the new weapon for elysia on a weapon banner or how do you obtain it

[willow perch]

Oh wait

She's going Kaioken X10

[distant lagoon]

same as with HoFi new wep

[desert smelt]

NOOOOOOO

[ember locust]

The crazy thing is that she can hold that chainsaw in ONE F*cking Hand

https://tenor.com/view/lunar-vow-crimson-love-luna-theresa-apocalypse-hi3rd-honkai-impact-3rd-gif-4220940076629871879

[willow perch]

Yeah? How about the fact she uses TWO at the same bloody time

This Vampire a menace

[desert smelt]

Should I go for new ely weapon or new kiana 😞😞😞

[ember locust]

THAT Too

[distant lagoon]

she vamp, she strong

[ember locust]

THAT is NOT your average vampire lol

[versed garden]

funny vamp

[ember locust]

If you don't have HoHe, just go for Kiana tbh

[desert smelt]

I got HoHe 1/4 and its a stig

[ember locust]

hmmm

[distant lagoon]

she gets whole new gear. it´s more a matter of ranks

[ember locust]

Which rank for HoHe ?

[desert smelt]

Im a f2p, wanna guess

[ember locust]

The funny thing is that just Honkai itself could overscale some of the mangaverse lol (but I'm not gonna develop more on that kekw)

[smoky lintel]

HoH had many ways to obtain ranks even f2p have s3 easily but with that response imma guess s0

[atomic coral]

most f2ps have s2

[ember locust]

There was a free HoHe in 7.9, you could have gotten S2 HoHe

[desert smelt]

Yeah....

[willow perch]

Gots her SS2 and feelin good™️

[desert smelt]

I got thelema s2 4/4 so i should be fine ice dps wise

[willow perch]

damn

[edgy drift]

F2p there was only the free copy last patch

the other one was BP but that's paid

next patch we'll also get supply shop stamps tho so the f2p reachable rank becomes SS

[ember locust]

Legitimately, HI3rd can overscale some of the DBverse (planetary or universal scale) and just be chill lol

[desert smelt]

Thelema I'm coming for you 👅

[prisma tartan]

7:19 AM

[edgy drift]

well they don't really compete with each other

[prisma tartan]

kek

[smoky lintel]

Iirc she also was in supply shop before or you could obtain her stamps in another way cuz that's how I got her s3 it's not something everyone did but definitely wasn't hard for an f2p

[edgy drift]

yeah I forgot the previous supply shop

[desert smelt]

It's gonna be hard for me to get another 4/4 s rank valk😞

[edgy drift]

So SS1 is possible

[ember locust]

Cell ? Naah not a problem
Buu ? It could make trouble but we can do something
Broly DBZ ? Browho ?

[edgy drift]

You can get one every other patch just playing normally

with bad luck

[desert smelt]

this is the set up yall

[atomic coral]

huge

abyss is twice a week and er gives 500

[desert smelt]

i got dudu at pity 8 i feel like my luck isnt the best

[atomic coral]

1500 right there

[desert smelt]

the weapon at pity 20 something

i keep forgetting to do abyss and now im at sinful III

[atomic coral]

how do people forget abyss, it's the main thing we do in this game

[ember locust]

@atomic coral You wanna see something huge ?

[edgy drift]

well there's your issue

[desert smelt]

i go on like 3 times a week

[atomic coral]

that explains it

[edgy drift]

there's your issue²

[atomic coral]

this game kinda requires consistent playing every day

[edgy drift]

all gacha games do

they develop addictions with it

[atomic coral]

if you play every day, you can get 16-18k per patch. sometimes more

[desert smelt]

i got things to do i gotta lock in academically 💔💔💔💔💔

[desert smelt]

me on roblox

[gleaming imp]

I spend some days on hi3 just doing daily and call it a day

Always make sure to do everything and never miss anything

[terse ravine]

keep teasing chibi APHO Mei
never playable

[gleaming imp]

Apho mei playable when so she can used with new kiana since kiana should have her queen/bestie with her

[final locust]

is s1 hohe even usable...

[edgy drift]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-funny-laugh-gif-11964564

[gleaming imp]

SS/SS+ or flop

[final locust]

oh my god....

[gleaming imp]

It's not like hofin where s2 is all you need really

[final locust]

put her in ER shop already 🙄

they better buff her thats so ridiculous

[gleaming imp]

I'm looking forward to seeing how her ss2 performance is

[willow perch]

SS2 HoHe gang

[edgy drift]

Bad without a team

[gleaming imp]

I have vita and senawho and hofin dk

And corabad

[edgy drift]

Too bad Thelema is the one you need

[final locust]

i want herrrr to be goodddd without SS

[gleaming imp]

But thelbad since new bad since me boomer

[edgy drift]

Good luck killing Heph without freeze or Kasumi without shieldbreak

[final locust]

lmao

[gleaming imp]

Ely has built in freeze

[edgy drift]

I find it ass how much her bosses are just unkillable without Thelema tbh

but they are nonetheless

[gleaming imp]

Manifestating v3 makes it so she's no longer reliant on thelema

[abstract night]

Hows urs only s1?

[final locust]

wdym

s1 is from BP

[abstract night]

Ah sorry

[final locust]

i mean maybe i can get S3 if i max out supply shop but thats still shit

[mild owl]

they're just gonna make new ice weathers that dont shill thele and only run those i believe

[edgy drift]

Just add 32 time trauma on every attack and 200% passive shieldbreak right

[gleaming imp]

We've had free dupe, 5 stamps in shop, another 5 stamps in shop soon, 3 advs

[gleaming imp]

[final locust]

i dont pull advs nobody does

[willow perch]

Nobody pulls ADV..Saying that to dry

[abstract night]

cough
Yeah uh who would

[gleaming imp]

People do, that's how they get Valk in first multi by being lucky which they post about

[edgy drift]

the max possible for someone that had her on release without paying is SS1 (SS current patch)

[final locust]

its just you

[gleaming imp]

But people really do one multi on advs and get Valk

Like iirc lyo did it and got sw from it

[final locust]

might have to pull a hohe adv to get her SS... anything for mama

[willow perch]

do et

[edgy drift]

With BP it goes higher, but most people didn't buy out her supply shop stamps last time either, so SS/SS1 including BP will be the norm

[willow perch]

(don't)

[mild owl]

is she getting one

[final locust]

i sure as shit hope so

[edgy drift]

She shouldn't be

[gleaming imp]

No more for her, she already got 3

[mild owl]

i cant say im a believer

[final locust]

killing myself

[abstract night]

I mean if i need to pick up her SS then I will but id ratherrrr get lv for my lightning dps's

[final locust]

my wife finally gets a buff
buff locked behind ancient players and whels

[edgy drift]

I mean it's a buff for any rank

[mild owl]

u cant even whale to unbrick 🙁

[edgy drift]

Just that you'll be competing against SS+

[mild owl]

im gonna get s3 but ik im -100ing all her weathers anyway

[edgy drift]

As always, good enough for RL

Nirv will be a pain without at least SS tho

[abstract night]

I didnt even get her on release

I was like

5 patches late?

Maybe 6

[gleaming imp]

It took me until her third adv to get her

[still vine]

I fell for beginner banner bait and got her s1 in like 20 pulls but haven't touched her since because no gear and JK weapon where

[edgy drift]

Got her S2 on release

[abstract night]

Thats sad

[final locust]

75 frags away

put her in ER shop hyv plsssssss

[still vine]

indeed

[edgy drift]

you'll have to wait a bit for that, first they gotta milk a bit the people willing to pay for ranks with the dkey

[abstract night]

R u happy u got her tho cuz of the dkey now lol

[still vine]

yeah I guess

[final locust]

at least she'll be usable in RL
...right...

[willow perch]

Yea

RL she'll be fine <SS

[edgy drift]

⬆️

[final locust]

well shes also usable in nirv

just gonna get shit on by the 30 trillion people who have her ranked

[edgy drift]

S2 shouldn't be as impactful either here since she stops being as sp reliant

[final locust]

so just S1, SS, SS1, and SSS are impactful?

[edgy drift]

so it's mostly just the dmg gap of SS and SS1+

[abstract night]

W-what shes not sp hungry anymore?

[edgy drift]

S2 still has a decent dmg buff too

[final locust]

no. she uses ARI instead of sp, so she actually doesnt use any sp at all anymore unless u use double ult strat

[edgy drift]

Well you're rotating with Outbursts now

[abstract night]

Huh

[edgy drift]

SP increases the dmg of the finisher

600% with 0sp up to 2600% with 200

[final locust]

entering SO auto enables burst mode

[final locust]

sp spent or sp not spent

is it like songque?

[edgy drift]

Like sq ye

[nova osprey]

https://youtu.be/zLv9aVWbfuc?si=hwD__9-tRC8V0SeK
This actually looks so much fun wtf

[edgy drift]

and it ends outburst and refunds 25% of remaining ARi

[abstract night]

She can end her SO early like songque i think

[final locust]

so how do you get sp on her... do her NAs in BM give you a lot

[abstract night]

Her wep gives sp i know that

[final locust]

oh shes just ice songque that needs ranks then

[edgy drift]

The normal form charge atks and WA like regular HoH

and you get some regen in ult mode too iirc

[final locust]

shes literally ice songque

[edgy drift]

well her own passive is 0.5/s during burst

but I think new stuff gives some extra

[final locust]

SO reliant
more dmg% on ult finisher for total sp
mid support
refunds ARI on SO exit

[abstract night]

Entering/exiting SO gives her sp iirc too aswell

[final locust]

"too aswell"

breath 2025

[abstract night]

I forgot which way..

[final locust]

so does she have any sp issues at all? like issues reaching max dmg buff?

[abstract night]

Isnt the 1st part like on her already

[edgy drift]

reaching the 200sp mostly won't happen, like Songque

[final locust]

aw nuts

is she the lantern killer?

i know for a fact she wont use lantern

except on ranged kalpas, that should be her boss too right?

[abstract night]

Whenever it runs
Lmao

Isnt she also type countered

[edgy drift]

Lantern killer was Lantern

[abstract night]

No she isnt

[edgy drift]

she killed herself

[edgy drift]

kalp is psy

[abstract night]

Yeah i realized
Hence this lol

[scarlet sapphire]

Making him disadvantaged vs Aponia, unlike his ER version.

[abstract night]

Well i mean. Like
Kalpas needs freeze
Which aponia doesnt have
U could use aponia lv/gd/sci kira

[edgy drift]

HoH should take ranged/freeze Heph, Ranged Kalp, TC Kasumi, WoD RPC/Tank, Ice Bena/RPC/Hellmaru, probably Ranged Assaka too

half of those haven't run in well over a year tho

[oak yarrow]

she better take all of lanterns bosses because i dont want to play lantern

even the fire bosses

[scarlet sapphire]

Wait, wouldn't Thel still topscore Ice Bena and Hellmaru?

[edgy drift]

Well she does, except Mobius

[abstract night]

Lantern hate much.

[edgy drift]

SSS Thel maybe

[oak yarrow]

if anyone says they like playing lantern ask them what rank their lantern is
it is always ranked

[edgy drift]

But then you have HoH with SSS Thel support

[abstract night]

...i uhm like playing lantern whenever i did

[oak yarrow]

u dont even have her

[scarlet sapphire]

I've only ever used trial Lantern so I can't comment on her

[abstract night]

I said when i did smh

I like the machine gun

[nova osprey]

I like lamp, shes s0

[oak yarrow]

stop lying to urself

[edgy drift]

Now are you trying to score well in abyss ?

[nova osprey]

If i can i will try

[abstract night]

Awawa do u think kiana or dudu is a better pull from what we know ofc

[tranquil mica]

what will be hohe's best team when her dk comes out?

[oak yarrow]

i cant speak for future abysses but dudu is kinda boring and her stat requirements are crazy high

[edgy drift]

Both seem to be about similar values as valks in a nutshell, but Kiana is on a better patch to pull on so if you had to choose it's her

[oak yarrow]

i cant kill mobs so im taking a massive point dip

[edgy drift]

img moment

at least smol Dudu has some ways to play around it a bit

[abstract night]

I can pull teri op easily soooo

If that changes anything

[edgy drift]

It doesn't change that 8.1 is a better patch to pull on so if you can only get 1 of them you get the one in 8.1

[abstract night]

(Im 5 till on op)

[edgy drift]

Did you have Songque breath ?

(the valk)

[abstract night]

I dont own songque...non-op

[edgy drift]

Then both Dudu and Kiana will be a pain to use

[abstract night]

Im pulling HoH dkey :(

HoH and Vita

[edgy drift]

Dudu relies on songque for Phys weathers as she hurts a lot, Kiana relies on songque for SD because of the early boom

[abstract night]

Isnt that just for SD tho

[edgy drift]

well SD is her main thing

[abstract night]

I mean..i guess :(

I can guarrantee hoh dkey teri op and kiana in 123 pulls

[nova osprey]

Dam how low is ur pity

[abstract night]

29 till on wep and valk
5 till on op
._.

[nova osprey]

[final locust]

songque support good for once

HoH support mid right?

they did her dirty making her support capabilities mid

if they just buff them a TINY bit she will be busted

bc of how fast her stellar drain is

[edgy drift]

She looks just ok yeah

[abstract night]

I mean does kiana not do good with HoH and Vita?

[final locust]

vita song better

but hoh vita good ig

i want that vita outfit its drop dead gorgeous but im too poor

[abstract night]

Well i uh dont own songque valk

[edgy drift]

You need Kiana weap too

[edgy drift]

no spork either I assume

[abstract night]

60 pulls for Kiana/HoH dkey
29 pulls for Valk
29 pulls for HoH dkey/Kiana
5 pulls for Astralop

[final locust]

is kiana's best team song sparkle? it better not be

[abstract night]

Nope

[edgy drift]

+Vita most likely

Song Sparkle possibly for MA because faster

[final locust]

ok so song sparkle not good at all? thank god

[abstract night]

I mean that doesnt mean not good at all