💁gameplay-help

[lapis raven]

s0+1 hle s2+2 fdd > sss+3 hh

[vernal terrace]

True

[lapis raven]

thel did ok too

wa spam

[vernal terrace]

Against Ben?

Or?

[lapis raven]

kalpass

[vernal terrace]

Ah

[lapis raven]

i vividly rmb running thel

[lapis raven]

actually not really, more of s0+1 hle s2+2 fdd ≈ sss+3 hh

[vernal terrace]

S0+1 HLE S2+1 FDD < SSS+3 HoHe I'm guessing

[lapis raven]

still roughly equal

[vernal terrace]

Damn

[lapis raven]

i think kan got a 740 with s0+1 hle s2+2 fdd ss+3 hh sss cx

i got a 744(?) with sss+3 hh thel s0+1 rita sss sera

[vernal terrace]

[lapis raven]

idr my score exactly

but yea, if i had hrb dk it’d probs be a bit higher too

[vernal terrace]

If I had flawless Benediction, probably would have survived last cycle

[dull sphinx]

You ring?

[open bone]

Well why don’t u

[obtuse lintel]

Ar?

[open bone]

You were around when it dropped

[dull sphinx]

Yeah

[obtuse lintel]

HOW

[vernal terrace]

Was pulling Badum's weapon over that probably

[open bone]

Oh right because u blew ur budget on horb gears

U brought this on urself then

[obtuse lintel]

How do you get that Mei role

[vernal terrace]

#homu-playground

[lapis raven]

u can tell me that when i inadvertently am not able to pull everything next patch

[obtuse lintel]

How does that work

[dull sphinx]

Rot: both support - AR - ult - CA*3 - WA

[open bone]

Just lucksacc. Only need 5 pulls to get everything if u think abt it

[lapis raven]

https://youtu.be/5AZCUOeQLFM
cheapest 1s run

[obtuse lintel]

So just one combo per ar

[dull sphinx]

Yeah

What, you use multiple?

[obtuse lintel]

WTF how do we get those tickets

How did i get 10k

[vernal terrace]

Linked your discord to your Hi3 account

[obtuse lintel]

The guide said smth like "ar > ult > ca3 > combo > finisher"

[dull sphinx]

Which is exactly what I'm saying

[obtuse lintel]

And i was like "combo?"

[dull sphinx]

Yeah, the 3 CA combo

[obtuse lintel]

Youre not saying "combo" as a separate part of the rot

[dull sphinx]

They're stoopid than

[obtuse lintel]

Ba turns automatically in ca

[dull sphinx]

Yeah, I can see da confusion

[obtuse lintel]

I was wondering, if the ca3 is not the combo, then wtf is combo

[steady osprey]

whose rot is that

[obtuse lintel]

First run did multiple combos

[vernal terrace]

BA

[dull sphinx]

Idk, but definitely not from me

My rot are very clear

[obtuse lintel]

Today i tried ar > ult > ba3 > ba3

But that wasnt either

[dull sphinx]

You can also AR - ult×3 - CA×3 - WA

[obtuse lintel]

I cant

I can 2ult at much

[dull sphinx]

If you wanna use eden 2 that is

[dull sphinx]

Huh?

[steady osprey]

u sure u picked the right ego signet

[obtuse lintel]

Ive tried and the much i could was like 2 ults

[obtuse lintel]

Yeah

[dull sphinx]

Weird

Mine can do 3

[obtuse lintel]

Idk if 3 are posible later

At the end i just did oneand combo

Then repeat

Ult > ba3 >ult > ba3

[dull sphinx]

Did you not pick eden 50 sp?

[obtuse lintel]

So thats why i was so slow

[obtuse lintel]

Tdmg and pdmg

And sp bonus dont remember which

[lament prairie]

FAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

FUCK THIS BOSS

[dull sphinx]

Td and Pd and 50 sp, try that

[lament prairie]

SHIT

[dull sphinx]

Hey lyo

[lament prairie]

hi :3

[crude cloak]

Imagine malding MA fr fr

[obtuse lintel]

[dull sphinx]

How's one of my favourite mod doing

[crude cloak]

With 2 Kianas too

[lament prairie]

real

[steady osprey]

someone want 0.2 emblem

[obtuse lintel]

Yeeeeey

[lament prairie]

boss was actual hell

[lament prairie]

good now that I finally scored

you should have seen me raging abt it

[obtuse lintel]

When somebody asks whats the name of the game:

[dull sphinx]

Noice

[lament prairie]

I think ik why I was lacking dmg in p2 earlier

my dp was prob hitting the ball cuz I evaded the 2nd one instead of letting myself get hit by it

[lapis raven]

hows one of my hated mod doing

[crude cloak]

Did wottle finally get a j*b

[lapis raven]

which type

pause

[obtuse lintel]

[crude cloak]

Wrong server broski

[dull sphinx]

Me ain't even mod

[obtuse lintel]

Why censoring that word

[crude cloak]

To not scare fellow HI3 players

[lapis raven]

u mean u just hurl the j slur around???

mods ban thanks

[steady osprey]

some ppl may find that word as horror content

[obtuse lintel]

Is it illegal to be a self functional adult?

[obtuse lintel]

They cant read the game, ofc they cant read ||job||

[vernal terrace]

[obtuse lintel]

True hi3 fan doesnt read

[calm nebula]

After some discussion with myself i decided to ball and get sw right away

[steady osprey]

"i wanted to be scary this halloween, so i dressed myself as a j*b application"

[obtuse lintel]

Sir

[lament prairie]

anyone got S0 paros ref

[obtuse lintel]

Paros?

[vernal terrace]

MA

[obtuse lintel]

❓

[crude cloak]

AO status?

[lament prairie]

SS

can include fws I'll just level her

I can still use the screenshot for ragebait and lie

[obtuse lintel]

I saw some in dodoco and hieu lee

[vernal terrace]

Hieu has SSS Chen though

[lament prairie]

[lament prairie]

let's see how this does

[vernal terrace]

Spoiler

[lament prairie]

do you have any questions? this is a help channel

you should to go #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion to talk about future stuff

[obtuse lintel]

How

I mean, WHY

[obtuse lintel]

Sir...

[calm nebula]

Yeah okay

[lament prairie]

kiana is cringe so give her the cringe level

[obtuse lintel]

[lament prairie]

wtf is this?

hoyo got too lazy to add skills?

????????

[obtuse lintel]

Do you wanna get Seele's treatment?

[formal wigeon]

press ult to ult

[vernal terrace]

[obtuse lintel]

Look what happened the last time Seele said something like that

[vernal terrace]

[obtuse lintel]

Kiana was cringe, ngl

[crude cloak]

I mean, her ult is just damage xdd

Makes sense

[obtuse lintel]

But now she became mommy

[lament prairie]

how

she's still cringe

[crude cloak]

iirc PAWS's evasion skill is the same

[formal wigeon]

I think SW is still the valk with the least side skills

[obtuse lintel]

[lament prairie]

WRONGGGGGG

[formal wigeon]

she has like 9 totals, 1 or 2 lines each, 2 not even available without ranks

[lament prairie]

Her special attack is tho

close

[obtuse lintel]

Evade to evade

[crude cloak]

Ah, ye

[lament prairie]

oh oof lvl 67 bricks my team dmg a bit

I wanted to leave her there

[crude cloak]

69

[vernal terrace]

[crude cloak]

Ah, remembered smth

[lament prairie]

skill max is 73 :(

[vernal terrace]

[crude cloak]

There is a guy that is leaving all valks at lvl 77

[formal wigeon]

make it 76

[vernal terrace]

The inverse of 67

[crude cloak]

And is doing quite well afaik

In EU too

[lament prairie]

this is p rough

[crude cloak]

The skill name sounds like a CaseOh comment

[lapis raven]

say please

[digital sky]

Nice kiana skill...

[spiral raven]

prof should cook their own rots

[lapis raven]

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1jFHNz5EEt

sss chen but try it anyw u hv too many dkeys

inb4 cd gated

[lament prairie]

pls

thank u

[spiral raven]

its not cd gate here, the title refers to Ari

[lapis raven]

nah cos wyowyo has ss chen and ref is sss

[spiral raven]

its fine dont need

[lapis raven]

bet

[lament prairie]

oh lvl 67 bricks atk as well

fuck it we ball

[vernal terrace]

Her whole passive skill tree is about food

[lapis raven]

unironically higher than my s0+1 atk ngl

[lament prairie]

it'll be really funny if I pull it off (not happening)

[spiral raven]

but why u low lvl anyways

[lament prairie]

WHY IS THEIR FWS +2

AAHAHHHH

[lapis raven]

nvm

[spiral raven]

is fine

[crude cloak]

Doesn't matter

[lapis raven]

funny

[crude cloak]

Here's it on YT for easier watching
https://youtu.be/7-REHfbRU40?si=431FQChXmFfpZcZb

[lament prairie]

cringe character gets the cringe number

[vernal terrace]

[spiral raven]

i see

[steady osprey]

bcs 6 7

[spiral raven]

when you have less dmg, drag it out longer with the sus ani

so you let pink expires sooner

so then hle does more dmg in to the red hp

for badum sus ani

her thing ends after she does like a full turn

also note there's tf on hle after wa ult basic

[lapis raven]

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1ADfuBjE3Q

+1

[lapis raven]

whel le

[spiral raven]

there's also tf after cora enhanced wa, so don't immediately ult if you pay attention to when they do it in the vid

[lapis raven]

@lament prairie ^

[spiral raven]

anyway the key is just drag shit out if u missing dmg + sneaking basics

[lapis raven]

my fws too ass to do it

[spiral raven]

whale wottle with fws

[lapis raven]

gonna regret backpulling her

[obtuse lintel]

Memes channel when

I need to collect memes

[lapis raven]

if i get someone on first multi then maybe not bad

[obtuse lintel]

I dont miss old memes channel tho

[spiral raven]

me when

[lament prairie]

ok I really need this skill maxed

lvl 76 it is

[obtuse lintel]

🐳 stuff

[lament prairie]

okay wtf is this transition

how does he just magically appear

how are they targettinga specific pillar

mine chooses one at random

[obtuse lintel]

Want a better rotation?

Here it is:

[lament prairie]

xd

I just don't understand the end of transition

this google translate description is killing me

(mosquito injury is also injury)

ok I have the general rot down just gotta mald tmmr

still don't understand transition but got it to happen

[desert robin]

Ive got a few more questions

For aponia - what for should i farm materials first?
stigmata or her weapon?

Is handel the best stigmata set for eden or should i get something else for her (or should i just use some cheaper equipment?)

What equipment should i grind for fischl?

In a team with aponia, eden and fischl should i replace one of them with lunar vow and if so then what equipment do i need to get for lunar vow?

[spiral raven]

big ball in middle has hp, kill ball transition end

pillars can be frozen, if frozen give many stardust

need to freeze all pillars twice for enough to stardust to kill big ball

but pillar has cooldown between the freeze.

hle uses weap on the first pillars
then what happens usually is just wait out hle weap cd.

cora gets buff ult,
badum ult does the second round of freeze

now hle weap is probably on cd

if you use do bax4 on hle she gathers the sd dust u lose time

u want to wait out cd

so you just do bax2 then or anything to kill time

you can do the evade into weap so some tf from the weap, but ur in sus ani during this time, unsure exactly if you need it.

but weap picks up the stardust kills the big ball

ending transition

and u immediately ult which is start of p2

what the phone formatting

some reason a lot of spaces

[lament prairie]

oh right my tming must be off cuz big ball doesn't seem to be dying

[spiral raven]

its a pretty long cooldown

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1267065291368566806/1401188988957491310/1352732798737186977.webp

u can watch the pillar which shows if you can freeze again

then ult on badum

[lament prairie]

maybe my badum ult too early, not sure

[spiral raven]

that would probably be the most likely issue

[elfin parrot]

I don't really have an answer for what to get first for aponia. Some of zeno pieces (T iirc) can see use on other valks if that helps. Otherwise it's more about how it all comes together at once. I rather you craft at once than to craft something preemptive then change your mind later. Keep in mind getting enough for anything takes a while.

Handel is best for her in many situations, but occasionally she can use Turgenev TB. If supporting LV she can also opt to use Aladdin.

• If you intend to stick with non astral ring valks, Turvenev TB (g3) is very commonly used and is often second best. Maybe make this your main priority. If you want what's best then you're mostly considering signatures that aren't as flexible though.
• Your eden currently doesn't have weapon which makes using her more awkward. Her weapon lets you skip a big step of her attacks to access one of her own innate support effect (a big tdm boost called fascination iirc). Until then consider dropping her in favor of other valks like fischl, pardofelis, valkyrie blastmetal.

Fischl's sig is zhenyi. TM can give some supporting effects but i rather you focus on Turg first which she can also use.
For the last team, you prob drop fischl for LV.

Considering your lacking stigs, I'm only going to be able to suggest barebone stuff for now.

Fu Hua Musician MB - put this on the support that takes the least amount of time to set up her own effects and will swap to the leader. (2pc effect)
Gluttony T - use this if the support can hit off field without a summon (pardofelis)
If not gluttony T, then use Ogier T

For the other support give them Roald Amundsen as said before for the 3pc. no need to level or upgrade.

[spiral raven]

speaking of wall of text
now thats a wall

[lament prairie]

oh ya that was it kek

[spiral raven]

nice

[desert robin]

Can i use zeno on mobius as well

If i can find some use of stigmata on multiple characters then i dont mind waiting a couple more months till ill be able to get aponias weapon

Sounds smarter

[elfin parrot]

i was mainly thinking of Zeno TM because schicksal's imperative (new sleepy teri) used it. Looking through it, the main effect mobi prob can't mileage from is 3pc which is pretty big

for future reference wiki or #wiki-consult can be a handy place to review stig effects https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Zeno

i think in game has a way to preview max value on stigs but idr

[spiral raven]

collection stigmata

[elfin parrot]

ah ty. hm quite a ways away to be practical

[desert robin]

Should i just use lunar vow with fischl and aponia until i can get signature weapon for eden as well

[elfin parrot]

i listed a few other valks you can consider aside from those two as well

[desert robin]

Oh yeah yeah those

[elfin parrot]

it might seem weird since they're not lightning type but they do give total damage effects that apply to any kind of damage

(also HoTr is ice type but supports specifically lightning and fire but that's a bit more exceptional)

[desert robin]

Interesting

Would fischl and lunar vow be better for aponia than valkyrie blastmetal and pardofelis then

[elfin parrot]

do note hotr is available from the box you're considering aponia from and currently isn't farmable from WT (she's in reserve though) but maybe with time she'll be added

HoTr also is a bit awkward without her weapon, and want higher ranks for sp regeneration too

so performance wise i'm not particularly inclined for you to get her unless you want to focus especially on mobius' sp sustain for long fights

[desert robin]

.

[desert robin]

A little too late for this

[lapis raven]

mobi does prefer lv supp anyw so maybe that’d be better to “save toward” even tho theres no way to obtain her p1 gear any time soon

[elfin parrot]

ah dw about it then. hotr will prob be more available in the future anyway as she gets older and older. common trend for any valk

and mobi is also going to want her own ranks and handel or linn b piece for further sp regen too

[desert robin]

I suppose i could go for zeno and handel sets first as handel would be used for eden and mobius

I can imagine its gonna take forrver to get though

[elfin parrot]

yeah it prob would be a long time

[desert robin]

On the upside i did beat universal mirage last stage so at least i can get those purple things now

Somehow beat it

[elfin parrot]

ah nice

[lament prairie]

any idea why when my wep picks up all those sd frags right before p2 nothing happens?

[elfin parrot]

i'm sure you already know but it's a common suggestion to consider building up meta first and then going for any side projects once you're more stable or well off, but i feel in the long term that just leaves you in a similar spot in the end. No sense in doing it if you don't enjoy it

alternatively, even at maximum potential non meta things will pale in modern standards. I feel at that point you may want to focus more on gameplay rather than simply damage numbers. By that i mean maybe sp sustain, initial sp, cooldowns, etc and other possible functionalities can be a higher consideration.

Maybe this can especially apply to elysian realm too where clearing is more lax there but still is an environment that emphasizes mobi and aponia's individual traits well.

[desert robin]

I think elysian realm is the one thing i somewhat like playing

Compared to other stuff

[lament prairie]

I need to hle basic or something?

[desert robin]

Since i only need 1 character

[spiral raven]

so u saying, u weap ulted at the very start of transition

then u later swapped to badum to wa and then ult again when off cd on freeze

then you went back now to hle, u used weapon after off cd, and you didnt pick up the stardust frags dropped from badum ulting?

[lament prairie]

no I picked up the frags but the ball hp did not change kek

[spiral raven]

thats something new i havent heard of lol

never happened to me

[lament prairie]

maybe my transition is timing out idk

[spiral raven]

hmm

[lament prairie]

I didn't think I was that late xd

[spiral raven]

that could be it, if you weap around 3 or 4 should make it

theres a bit of delay between picking up frags and then dealing dmg on hle weap

[spiral raven]

only recording will tell

becuz i dont think that ever happened to me

so not sure

[lament prairie]

hmm

[elfin parrot]

Sorry to bring up the meta as a suggestion earlier. I just needed to get it out of the way since it was still a consideration to reach your final goal.

As for elysian realm, some amount of damage is still going to matter but it also gets to a point where higher difficulty content isn't that much different from lower difficulty content if the proportion stays the same.

• I'm partially saying this because there can be some approaches to the game that actually changes how the valk actively behaves. I already talked about mobius' sp sustain (eden signets can help that though. not something you need stigs to absolutely do), but another example i have is Herrscher of Flamescion Kiana. That was one particular build that focuses entirely on evasion cooldown reduction so she can access her hold attack as much as possible. It wasn't the best in the end but it was still viable and interesting to use.

[lament prairie]

does the trauma on the final pillar matter

about the apo discussion, if it's relevant isn't linn best on apo in ER?

[elfin parrot]

at any rate just food for thought when considering this long period of farming. I understand there's still appeal to clear content that isn't changing as much, or just improving in general.

[spiral raven]

i watched the vid now turns out he doing a slightly different transition

that explains why what i was saying didn't work

he weap and then did basic yes

u can see he got 40 frags then basic to kill the ball then ulted

i assume this way is a bit nicer timewise because he dodged the laser before ulting

normally what you do is evade then weap ult

he does weap evade to dodge laser, then basic ult

so mb lol

[desert robin]

Youre not being annoying about the meta thing or forcing it down my throat so thats fine
I completely understand the need or suggestions to build up more modern characters

I just dont care about them and choose to do whatever i feel like

Mobius does seem a tiny bit more interesting to me gameplay wise than aponia and i might even focus on her instead

[elfin parrot]

it's more like whenever we explore a topic, i try to exhaust as much as possible. It can be overwhelming but people seem to appreciate all the details. People do not like being unaware esp when it's something relevant to their interest.

but yeah i do think your preference for non meta is to be fully respected otherwise

oh speaking of non-meta, if it means anything Lyo here is an HoV main who is very non meta now. But that hasn't stopped her from using HoV whenever possible (even clearing mobs in nirvana tier)

[desert robin]

I dont really mind sticking a new character with old characters
Its just getting constantly told that whatever i wanna use "sucks" is annoying and narrow minded

[lament prairie]

hey dw I use HoV still

it only sucks if ur team sucks

there's always somewhere you can use old stuff

[desert robin]

Out of curiosity i just remembered of silverwing and im wondering how is that character doing damage wise

[desert robin]

Old dusty stuff my beloved (except everything i had when i came back was bad)

[elfin parrot]

yeah i don't agree with people saying "if you're casual nothing matters." There's layers, and value from the game doesn't need to be dictated by ingame objectives (partially this is the speedrunner in me speaking, and not every game is intended to be speedrun, yet speedrunning is so popular now)

[desert robin]

My account is such a joke

[elfin parrot]

some people simply value the date/number of their account and that's very fair. Or some og emblem/frame.

[desert robin]

My account is probably like 4 years old but i simply didnt have anything good on it

[elfin parrot]

uh check #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins lol. Spoiler tag anything about that when discussing it here though

[desert robin]

Its just in a very sorry state

[elfin parrot]

also maybe consider sleepy teri down the line then. She's one of the few newer valks that have non-astral ring functionalities and can support your lightning valks of interest. (you saw the rank 1 mobi video earlier that uses her with lv)

[desert robin]

Alright ill add that to the list of things i need

[elfin parrot]

i don't normally recommend this though. Sleepy teri (ScI) is arguably one of the least milaging astral ring valks especially nowadays

it's only if you only want to specifically focus on non astral ring lightning side of things

[desert robin]

I think thats what im gonna have to do for now

Or i can just reconsider all of this stuff and throw my resources at supports for xentinel and stuff

[elfin parrot]

other newer valks of interest may include

• reign solaris durandal who supports non astral ring physical (replaces TA)
• sparkle who supports non astral ring fire
• some of the earlier astral ring valks like sena, jds songque, thelema can operate as dps outside of astral ring (don't make them leader if so)

yeah that's valid too. Xentinel only has astral ring stuff. As a leader dps she specifically wants symbiosis supports. Lunar vow is similar with her new weapon which maybe you can work towards instead (they can support each other). A weapon only costs 17k crystals or 60 pulls at most.

[desert robin]

If only getting that many crystals would be easy for me

[elfin parrot]

the logic of team building is quite different from non astral ring. i can cover that too if you want (i will throw a big faq at you first though)

[desert robin]

Awesome

[elfin parrot]

!faq ring

[night parcel]

Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain!

Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!

Characters under the Astral Ring System will have one ring type (Specialization), and one or multiple tags (Attributes) that will determine how they can form teams. This system is only activated if a Character with Astral Ring is set as the leader. When activated:

• the leader's ring type will decide the team's playstyle.
• the team will benefit from effects (e.g., Stigmata buffs) that require Astral Ring.
• the team will gain access to Stellar Outburst, a high damage output state you can enter after charging enough energy (Astral Ring Intensity).

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

• World Star - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[elfin parrot]

!faq crystals

[night parcel]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[elfin parrot]

guess i'll throw this up too. Abyss crystals is notable for roughly half of your income but you can still get a partial amount of it at least.

but not everything here is quick to get and may not be worth your interest too

[elfin parrot]

oh and i forgot to say, start from the central text, and then go to the last link first

[desert robin]

I dont mind doing this stuff as long as i can actually clear it and feel like im doing SOME damage (problem is that i have nothing so haha)

Even though i did always find abyss the least appealing

Never bothered with it that much

[elfin parrot]

at least score a single point in it for finalization crystals
but also aim for 15k points (2 and a half mob stages) for the 100 crystals

i don't expect you to handle SSS bosses timely (40 crystals total) in memorial arena but do see if you can get enough clears for the 100 crystals and 1 source prism from challenge rewards

[desert robin]

Ill give that a try later

[elfin parrot]

getting 500 crystals weekly from ER is prob reasonable at least. I think at worst S rank VBm coralie can clear it with wang zhenyi stigs and signature hammer

but idk how that stands now with the new weather effects. possibly still fine

[desert robin]

Guess ill find that out

[elfin parrot]

keep in mind max crystals is abstinence difficulty (2.25x), and not max

[dull sphinx]

Actually

She can do so in no stigma

[elfin parrot]

oh ok. even better then

you got me worried for a minute

but yeah pot prob knows ER more than i do

[desert robin]

[dull sphinx]

Nah, me just casual ER player

[elfin parrot]

anyway none of this is mandatory but just relevant things to mention since we're considering pulling for valks

[dull sphinx]

Ah

I thought there's another ER section

Oh well, until me meet again!
Yoink myself to other chat

[desert robin]

👋

[elfin parrot]

lol well anyway any other questions?

[desert robin]

Stigmata for lunar vow

What do i get for her

[elfin parrot]

nothing really changes from what i said earlier

[desert robin]

Awesome

Alright then nothing else for now

Thanks for more detailed info

[elfin parrot]

sorry i couldn't give further help. What I suggested was still barebone stuff there. But at least it's given you some direction

[desert robin]

Eh not like anything else can i be said considering the lack of stuff i own

Gotta just get all of that stuff so i wouldnt be in this bad spot anymore

Basically do what i should have done years ago

[elfin parrot]

well the game does move on. Things do fall off. It's not everyone has to go through all steps of however many years of the meta it has. Loosely speaking the game keeps things in its meta for like 2 years, so newer players just hop straight to that.

oh ok that story book isn't appropriate to mention lol

i was just saying i do have some white whales or Herman Melville's book in the game to still desire even when i missed their relevancy in the meta (mjolnir + vikrant personally)

i will say, aside from the astral ring valks i mentioned earlier, ||SW does sound pretty potent for you to consider. You can farm the valk from War Treasury shop, and only pay 17k crystals to get her weapon next patch. With her weapon, you can use her as a world star leader with the new Mei and the free senadina that patch. This prob isn't amazing meta wise but it'll prob be a big leap for your account||

but maybe that's too much new stuff to consider

otherwise without ||SW, you can still consider the free senadina as dps with Mei and VBm coralie as supports||

or even sena in a p1 team and the lightning support pool mentioned earlier

[last hull]

Should I use the boxes for prisms, or should I just save them in case?

I doubt it’d be worth it to buy prisms from the supply shop no?

[elfin parrot]

prob not

!faq supply shop

[night parcel]

Supply Shop

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Supply Shop purchase priority!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[elfin parrot]

if you plan to catch up on any of those (edit: prob not recommended), keep the box

alternatively keep the box purely for collection

otherwise only open the box if you actually need the prisms for an immediate use case

!faq stigbox

[night parcel]

Free Stigmata Boxes

Hey, Captain!

In Honkai Impact 3rd Part 2, most new Valkyries will have a Stigma Option box given for free! But when should you use them?

If you are pulling for the corresponding weapon, you should open the box AFTER you have 2 different pieces of that stigmata set already. These stigma boxes are optimally used to finish a stigmata set. This also applies to Part 1 stigmata boxes, if you have any.

If you...

• Obtained the weapon before you got at least 2 stigmata set pieces, stop pulling! Open the box to get the best piece and then craft any missing stigmata (you can find these in Foundry).
• Already got the full stigmata set before the weapon (there are high chances that you did), keep the box as a collectible or open it, select a random stigma and salvage it for Source Prism.
• Are skipping or have skipped the corresponding weapon but want to get the Stigmata set, open the box first for the best piece then craft the other two via Foundry.
• Skipped the weapon and do not intend to craft the Stigmata set, you have no urgent reason to open the box, so keep it.

Regarding Bronya: N-EX, you can open the box once you own T or B and use it to finish TB. M is not BiS on SW.

[last hull]

I have like 4 M stigs that are not maxed it’s genuinely horrendous 😭

Guess I gotta keep coping

[elfin parrot]

you can make some argument for it (also spending event shop) but do be mindful what you're giving up in the future from doing so

at least for supply shop you can pop from it whenever when it's actually relevant to go for an improvement

[last hull]

Oh wait I didnt mean that as an actual argument I was just venting

[elfin parrot]

uh i mean make an argument as in make a fair point to consider it? lol

like maybe it can be worth getting some M stigs up now if they have important buff effects for a valk you'll need to use for weeks, esp early on when you don't have much yet

and what you're giving up is some stamps for some niche valk that's about to fall off from the meta in the future

anyway somehow i've been here pretty much all day so i'll hop off now lol

[last hull]

Gn

[verbal axle]

What should I get from the valk box, SS HoHe or SW?

And how good is S2 of the new mei?

[blissful pollen]

does p2 give out lots of xtals? i havent done it yet & thinking of speedrunning it for mei

[verbal axle]

And which chars can I use if I only have the new mei and Kiana and not the new coralie

[vernal terrace]

3300+
A little over 10 pulls

[blissful pollen]

that’s it?? 😭😭😭😭

[vernal terrace]

For what we have right now yes

Though it'll go higher since Part 2 is still ongoing

[feral cairn]

Hey guys, as a returnee whose part two units only include:
Senadina, Thelema, Lantern, HiLoveElf, and HoFi, HoH:E, HoRb, Lunar Vow with their divine keys,
Should I prioritize rolling for badum kiana or Xentinel Mei? I don't have a single law of ascension character lol

[half hatch]

If you'd have to roll for either one of them I'd pick the new mei + her weapon but it really depends on your crystal count if you should roll for her.

For badum her DPS aspect barely gets shilled anymore and while she does see some use as a support you already have other options and would want to prioritize the new units above a year old battlesuit

[feral cairn]

I only considered badum kiana since I saw she fits with almost all of my part two units as a general teammate, but could new Mei fulfilll this role instead then?

And also because I dont have a law of ascension character haha

[half hatch]

They both have the exact same support tags so yeah.

I wouldn't focus on the fact that FWS is LoA too much, in the end the ring type only really determines the play-style and not how desperately you need a character of said ring, LoA shilling has been on the lower end in the recent patches and if they'd release a new LoA unit you would just pull them and enjoy their shill. Generally the rule of thumb is to just always pull a new character + their weapon if you can afford them upon their arrival

[feral cairn]

Alright, good to know that Xentinel Mei and badum kiana can fulfill the same role then. Also good point, thanks

[faint lichen]

Haii should i get a copy of Silver Wing?

[red plank]

well sure, unless you want to keep the box for the Affix wafers, ranking SW looks like a good choice

[fresh scaffold]

As someone with these characters, i was wondering too who should i pick from the box?

[faint lichen]

Okieeee

[red plank]

the box only has mostly outdated valks not suitable for endgame stuff anymore although they might be useful for captains below lvl 80. still they will become useless after lvl 80.
REGARDLESS Silver Wing Bronya is still the best choice for you

Besides with the valks you have you dont need any of the Box valks, besides bronya

[fresh scaffold]

I understand, as i am lvl63 then il just pick her, thank you so much for explaining 🙏🏻

[red plank]

[wooden patrol]

Who's abyss is dark jixuanyan

Type counter

[cunning gull]

meant for new mei

[wooden patrol]

Yay I might just survive rl again

What would be the best team for that specific abyss boss?

Something like xdc ps fdd?

Cuz from what I saw jixu is Psy bio? I'm confused

[cunning gull]

psy when riding the horse
bio when off the horse

[cunning gull]

xdc fdd sure, not use about last slot

fws is an easy last slot because fast + kiana bonus

[half hatch]

i've seen some fws/ps things cuz PS has extra shieldbreak against psy enemies but we'll see

though i also saw fdd/fws quite a bit

[kindred skiff]

How much crystals are needed to get Songque Astralop from the spending event?

[dusky mantle]

40.6k total spent

[kindred skiff]

Thanks!

[prisma olive]

Do I need HLE for Meteoroid Paros?

[cunning gull]

she's the best option for that boss, but if you don't have her then you can show what new stuff do you have instead

[prisma olive]

Everything new thus far

[cunning gull]

use senadina dps if she got her weapon
for MA sake its enough to get the crystal rewards
for abyss version (when its there) its scuffed but doable

[prisma olive]

What about Badum DPS

[cunning gull]

oh didn't notice her
yes if she got weapon

[prisma olive]

3 minutes 30 seconds is the max for obtaining all the rewards yes?

[magic dagger]

any idea for a team with herrscher of sentience? would she work w herrscher elysia and dawnbreaking crescent raiden
I dont really need an S tier team just something that works

[prisma olive]

What even is your goal?

[cunning gull]

senti, starry impression, pardo for now
can use for beginner shenanigans, can also get Prometheus and use her in this team

but this is only used for temporary stuff, xdc (new mei) and vbm (a rank coralie) is what you'll use on hard stuff

[prisma olive]

If plausible, try pulling for dragon coralie

[cunning gull]

i don't remember the time but you can click on the rewards to see the needed score to get the rewards you want

[magic dagger]

I just wanna use senti ngl but I dont want a terrible team

I only rlly do main story/elysian realm story

[magic dagger]

alright thank you

[cunning gull]

no, i don't recommend this aside from free carnival pulls

[prisma olive]

Fair enough

[desert robin]

Good to know that silverwing isnt too bad either as shes the next character i want to grind for after i get mobius

Of course everyone who i want is outdated but whatever

[open bone]

||Well Silverwing specifically isn’t even going to be outdated, she’s expected to have another year or two of BiS uses with her new gear||

[verbal axle]

?

[open bone]

Do you have any other gacha battlesuits?

Mei Kiana HLE is also very good

Even without coralie

Peregrine sword also solid

[verbal axle]

Oh wait I wanted to react to this, I have the young dudu

[open bone]

Especially for JXY

[verbal axle]

Hle?

[open bone]

Hi Love Elf. SD Elysia

[verbal axle]

Oh no

Sadly not, I paused after the new Kiana and started again like last week

[open bone]

There’s other good options but I would need to see who you have then

Do you have reign Solaris?

[verbal axle]

Give me a second

[verbal axle]

Is that the young durandal?

[open bone]

Yeah. She’s not amazing for Mei but should work fine

[verbal axle]

I have her with weap

[open bone]

Can just do Mei Badum RS then

And for Badum dps you can do Badum Mei Vita maybe

[verbal axle]

Sadly I don't have lianas weapon, what's better Tue weapon of HoFi old or the god key?

[verbal axle]

Badum?

[open bone]

HoFI old is her best cope for a dps. I don’t remember for support

[open bone]

Drummer Kiana

[verbal axle]

So the new weapon is worse?

[open bone]

For dps yeah, more buffs locked behind being hofi

Hofi still wants waxing obviously

Mostly as a support any good pistol will work okay

[verbal axle]

So thats the best coping I can do?

[open bone]

Yeah should be.
Mei Badum Reign Solaris (HoHE can work but worse), Badum with domain

[verbal axle]

Btw how much of a DPS upgrade was S2 mei and should I get SS HoHe or SS SW?

[open bone]

S2 Mei is nice for Nirvana but you shouldn’t need in RL

[verbal axle]

Wait how should HoHe Work?

[open bone]

Mei is a grail of infinite Valkyrie, so she wants Valkyries with Symbiosis

Which for you is Badum Reign Solaris and HoHE with dkey

[verbal axle]

But I don't own HoHe dkey

[open bone]

Oh oops

Nevermind then

Yeah just Mei Badum RS then

[steady osprey]

then hohe wont work

[crude cloak]

If you don't have HoHE dkey getting her ranks is pointless

[verbal axle]

I mean I'm in agony 1 rn but good to know

[crude cloak]

||SW ranks are worth though||

[steady osprey]

s2 mei is kinda game changing. dont have to farm SP with basic for a stack is huge.
another skill is 3s time slow after weapon but its not too great for abyss

[verbal axle]

Okay so sw, thx

[open bone]

If you’re in agony 1 then Mei ranks shouldn’t matter, Mei Badum RS should delete Mei shill

[verbal axle]

Ah that's what it does, nice. Got her with 3 pulls after I payed like 180€ for her+weap🫠

[verbal axle]

Mei Shill?

[open bone]

Yeah. They run bio bosses with physical weather or extreme weather where Mei is the best option as a DPS

And then since you have a full team for Mei she will just delete those stages

[steady osprey]

lol i never noticed xdc can support ws

[verbal axle]

Ok, thx

[open bone]

Tbh basically everyone supports WS lmao

[steady osprey]

wat u mean

[verbal axle]

What should I play in those stages? I have the new Kiana too but she's not in screenshot

[open bone]

Domain resonance is like the most common tag

[open bone]

Who has weapon and stigs

[verbal axle]

.

[open bone]

Oh right. So no HoO gear

[verbal axle]

No she has

Just wasn't in the screenshot

Didn't want to send it twice

[open bone]

In that case you want Badum DPS for Paros with Mei support , maybe sparkle 3rd or Vita

HoO Hofi for Husk, it doesn’t look like you have divine prayer so whatever Lightning support you have third. Can also just do trio, might be better since you’re gonna be missing damage on HoO dps from not being maxed or ranked. Reign Solaris also an option but the problem is you don’t have enough supports for her and Badum at once

HoV is an easy 0 sec with Hofs or HoHE + Thelema

[verbal axle]

Can't I just play HoR?

For hofi

Herrscher of truth

Sorry not reason

[open bone]

HoT is the third in trio yes but if I was doing that I would probably do Hofi leader instead of HoO leader

HoO leader would be using simp here most likely

Or maybe golden diva actually

That’s probably better, missed her

So yeah HoO Hofi GD
Or Hofi Hotr HoO

Depending on how your damage works out

[verbal axle]

HoFi with old or new stigmata for trio?

[open bone]

New stigma for both

New stigma and wep is way better

And you want old weapon for Badum anyway

[verbal axle]

HoTr and HoO have no new weapons right?

[verbal axle]

Oh yeah right

[open bone]

Correct. HOO dps sometimes uses 7t I guess but that’s not new

And on trio you use old wep

[steady osprey]

im just wondering why is that definitety a deer horn but everyone call it a bull

[verbal axle]

?

Trio with which one?

[open bone]

For husk, here’s some references you can look at tho damage won’t line up perfectly

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV158tozTEuE?p=4
https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1boxYePE9o

Should be Sonque I think since Kiaelf only 3*

[verbal axle]

Is it just typical trio rota so starting with origin than HoFi than truth than HoFi than ult?

[steady osprey]

typical trio rot doesnt start with hoo...

[open bone]

^

You usually start with truth

[verbal axle]

Oh

Played it wrong all that time

Well

[open bone]

And here it’s a little complicated since you ideally want to evade and then counterattack the first hits

[verbal axle]

Turned out like this

For the other one like this?

[verbal axle]

For Hohe +Thema is hohe dkey necessary?

And that's the badum with sparkle run

[verbal axle]

And couldn't I clear it with sirin too? She's maxed out

[open bone]

No, you just need starting SP

For Thelema to instantly ult

[open bone]

You could easily clear it with her it just probably wouldn’t be 0 seconds

[verbal axle]

Ult doesn't one shot though

[open bone]

MMG needs either Sparkle or HotR to 0 sec and you need those for SSS bosses

[verbal axle]

I meant Thelma ult

[open bone]

Oh. What stigmas are you using on Hofs/Hohe and what third teammate?

Thelema should kill with ult into basics into moment of indulgence before timer ticks down

From either leader

[formal wigeon]

It's not supposed to, you have 3 seconds of timestop after it to whack her

[open bone]

HoV is super frail tho so lots of ways to 0sec her

Even if you don’t have any support stigmas you can put on hofs and can’t get in Rc to tag her, say

Senti can do it with brick, si ta sns, HoR rc jk, etc

[verbal axle]

Rn the only chars I can have in team are HoHe, thelema, HoFS, ai Chan, sirin and Natascha

[stoic crest]

Is the best option from the box to get Silverwing,and then get other characters from shop?

[verbal axle]

Probably yes

But it may depend on the dkeys you have

For me HoHe was dead even though I could have got hohe to SS cause I don't have her dkey

[cunning gull]

keep the box until u need it

[plucky gust]

ngl this might be the best option, if you don't have the right p2 upgrade. . . maybe one of the option there might have a p2 upgrade later on

wishing for an SN p2 upgrade. probably WS

[vague flame]

where do u see "moonrising" in hofin text

like what skill is it under

[half hatch]

3pc effect of her new sig stigmata set Iskandar

[dusky mantle]

man

easiest SS of my life

[vague flame]

ty

[bleak blade]

i miscalculated and pulled too much on fws could i still manage to get it in 11 days

[cunning gull]

do u have a lot of story/ER to do?

[bleak blade]

yes but i still need to finish durandal vn to continue the story i am following a guide

[lime grail]

how do i send a red packet

[cunning gull]

for lobby u just finish a hide and seek round
for normal chat, not sure, might need to be a returnee or smth, i cant give a confirmation

[steady osprey]

while in lobby u can click the box to find red packets among the fireworks, if u didnt select to share it right after receiving from hide and seek game.
in chat room select the icon next to the box where u enter ur chat, there should be a menu where u can choose "send packet"

my memory also quite vague bcs its too long ago since i was a returnee in my secondary accs

[lime grail]

yea lobby

[old musk]

What battlesuit should I get from the anniversary free s rank selector? My dps’ are xentinel mei, flamescion, and hohe

[crude cloak]

||Silverwing if you don't have her because she'll get a new gear set next patch||

[old musk]

whos her teammate?

[crude cloak]

||You kinda wanna farm up S2 on her too||

[crude cloak]

||Well, you'll have to use XDC and VBm||

||For SW DPS||

[old musk]

so shes gonna be my on-field?

[crude cloak]

Depending on the boss yes

[old musk]

what if i really want to use xentinel as on field

[crude cloak]

||SW can't support her||

[old musk]

hm

[crude cloak]

Does your HoHE have her new weapon

Flawless Benediction

[old musk]

Nope

I got key of ego on her

[crude cloak]

Tough

[old musk]

wait leme send my roster

@crude cloak

[crude cloak]

XDC and VBm are your only notable valks currently

[old musk]

the rest were either for free or from asterite shop ;-;

[crude cloak]

Expanding your roster takes time

[old musk]

who should i pick from the selector tho

[crude cloak]

.

[old musk]

still sw?

[old musk]

Should i take the stigma set off reverse calico and give it to her

[crude cloak]

Yeah, sure

[placid acorn]

This is for vita boss… is there a better team I should be using (only agony 2)

[misty crane]

[misty crane]

Rita team probably 2nd best team for that boss

[placid acorn]

Okay. Wasn’t sure optimal rotation (mps is s2) so I just tried to time stop as much as I could. 😣

[misty crane]

But yeah i have skill issue can't even get 600 with that team in rl 😭

[placid acorn]

I can only get 729 and my DS is only S…

[misty crane]

[crude cloak]

Rita is ass this cycle afaik

Second best team is actually PAWS

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/sNaMKjFVZ6s Can someone tell me how to score better with this? I should be around 720 or 740 to be safe.

[crude cloak]

Try a 2 SO run

[crude cloak]

I've got 711 with S SQ that way (defo can go higher with better evasions, I just didn't bother xdd)

[elfin parrot]

Start FDD attacking sooner. use the alarm as an audio cue. Watch other ref for the timing
if you're sticking with single SO then i don't think you'll need to swap vita out in p1
you have leftover outburst time in p2. Start outburst sooner to make the full use of it. You'll have to play to figure out exactly what this is.

[misty crane]

Why i didn't try paws dps

[elfin parrot]

i can't stay to talk too long so those are what i can quickly say for now

if you're doing double outburst, then you're going to need to be more keen on transition evades, and using hofi WA 2x during it to build up descent stacks for her stellar drain

vita abyssal energy and her evades in p2 may become notable to rush into SO sooner. Mainly consider this if going to SO without them will cause you to finish the boss with leftover outburst time

but this shouldn't be new to you.

[spiral raven]

cora can 994 land
u did a non mech wa (it expired)
cora after enhanced wa can wa then ult to trigger vita qte
then try ring sooner

[pale musk]

I have been using the alarm as an audio cue. I've been going after the 3rd beep. am I meant to go earlier?

[elfin parrot]

you were too late in your video. That's all i'm saying

[pale musk]

when was the non mech wa?

[elfin parrot]

the move where vita fires her tail feather bullet things

[pale musk]

I mean the highest I got was 714, I just failed to record the run

[elfin parrot]

you should never really see that unless you're going after abyssal energy stacks or highly additional hitcount or something

[pale musk]

ok

[elfin parrot]

you can view the remaining mech duration above the hp bar

starting the mode early and having it end can allow you to cancel some actions and force refresh your mech WA use

but you prob know that already

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/VxA0AfxWMwk 2 SO was kinda worse

[elfin parrot]

try to incorporate more jumps (mashing evade+jump can sometimes bug out into a few more than you're supposed to expect) in the earlier evade of transition
use hofi ult before the boss lands to reground yourself before the boss lands so you can evade in time

[crude cloak]

I think I've seen a better way to get 2 Abyss stacks (or whatever they're called)

Mech WA sequence -> transformation ends -> mech WA sequence

Gotta transform during the transition for that

[elfin parrot]

i'm not sure if that conflicts with hofi building up descent stacks

but yeah good to note

[crude cloak]

Yeah, lemme see the ref again

[elfin parrot]

for p2, i would use the wa asap to set it on cd so you can get it back sooner. Becuase you used it late you kinda find yourself doing ba2 > regular evades for extended periods

i know fdd buff was running out but you barely made use of the rebuffed time when looping the team back

maybe just stay on vita and try to evade more esp when the buffs are gone, or just evade more to get the outburst ready before it happens

[pale musk]

whose wa?

[elfin parrot]

vita's

[crude cloak]

https://youtu.be/ZVg8CkKjArw?si=KYzF_O5LM3itcwkd

Not doing HoFi's CA at all ig

That's SSS Chen though

[elfin parrot]

i also don't know if it's good to squeeze in a quick ba 1 or 2 between evades since not attacking would also lessen ari regen

ok i need to go now. sorry but i'm sure the others here can still help you plenty

[pale musk]

ok, ty for the help.

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/OdsLio75vc8 I tried ringing sooner but I got a worse score, is there anything else I can try?

[spiral raven]

u should be on vita and evade ring ig at like 1:42

or qte vita at that time, so qte dmg hits the boss the moment she hittable then immediately ring or do aa ring

ur wasting time rebuffing

the full weap sequence when your mech form expires u can cancel it and then weap again, and that does more dmg in a shorter period of time

ring, weap expiring can also be used to cancel ba

[pale musk]

what's the full weap sequence when the mech form expires?

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/zqvsxxomTGY I tried ringing closer to there and it didn't work either.

[spiral raven]

that's because u ended up rebuffing again after SO

if u have to rebuff either way then better u do it earlier there and so ring later

[spiral raven]

like at 44 here u did weap into ba, the full string
u can just cancel it with going to mech again

weap ult weap

[pale musk]

so do I rebuff at any point after this or keep going?

[spiral raven]

nah i realised u saved it so u can do qte into weap on vita later after u swapped it, so don't bother the thing i mentioned at 0:44
but p1 u should add a basic then weap ult on fdd or something after swapping out from hofi, because u didn't trigger vita qte

[spiral raven]

tho you prob can try to change opening so that hofi weap hits, and the earlier part does a bit more damage for 3 point slower on the start

maybe it lets u skip more later, maybe it doesn't

so like after the warning text surrounding char disappears do a basic (for timing) and then weap on hofi should hit then cora weap ult at 991

[pale musk]

actually I tried it and it is slightly faster. Maybe because I charge attacked or something.

I think got me the closest in awhile

[spiral raven]

nah ur weap cd just came back up thats why it works

so that's good to know ig

[normal cloak]

Exalted MA Refs for 03/24/2026 - 03/29/2026 [Invite Link Here if channels are unknown](#💁gameplay-help message)
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[vernal terrace]

I'm gonna have to use HLE on heph

[pale musk]

there're 6 people below me with the same team as mine (those last two aren't them) and I don't see anyone sniping. Would I be safe?

[spiral raven]

idk but u look fine

i doubt na brackets that sweaty

[spiral raven]

everyone is doing that this cycle

but hle with hohe

[pale musk]

alright, ty

I have a presentation due tomorrow so I should really prep for that

[vernal terrace]

I have no Flawless Benediction though

[spiral raven]

brick

[vernal terrace]

But by the looks of itI'm gonna have to bring in JDS support on Sa

[open bone]

why

[spiral raven]

jds is fine

[vernal terrace]

HLE is going on Heph

[spiral raven]

badum cora sonk
hle hohe horb
5+2 this cycle

[open bone]

riley no wep no stigs

for sonk

zzz

[vernal terrace]

I have craft stigs
Weaponless is fine for LoA support

[open bone]

just use a good loa supp like rita

[vernal terrace]

ME more for PS and RS

[open bone]

shes got good fire buffs too

PS wants Luna anyway, not me

a lot of the time

[spiral raven]

me is good but boss is sd and also songque does damage

but yeah idk u cook ig

skip critical point is pretty strong

[vernal terrace]

FWS XDC then whoever?

[spiral raven]

mei is trash

ma wise

[pale musk]

you were right, thx.

[lofty fern]

Guyz how do I get this love elf
Does she has a rerun
I m new basically captain lv 24 and returnee tooo!!!!
1.how many more pulls required to get outfit !!
2.In Login Event Do we get her this elf girl I heard we hv selector in that
3.Whats Best form login selector
4.I got Mei Form Banner With Some Fragments She Is S2 how do I make he more strong
Do I need to pulls for weapon
5.Is There Some Rerun Rn Of Great Characters coming ??
I heard this is anniversary patch in sea is this true ?

[spiral raven]

start new acc atp if u returnee + lvl 24
u prob don't have starter manual but not like u progressed much at all

its 9600 total to get the outfit, u done like what? maybe 3k tops? so another 6 or 7k more

u dont get the char from that box, she has a banner later

weap is basically needed in this game

reruns generally not recommended because of limited budget

and atp there isnt really anyone worth considering in the selector box

but there is a character u can consider getting if you check cn gameplay discussion

[lofty fern]

Which char I got confused
The elf one on outfit banner has a banner or can I get from selector ??

[lofty fern]

Name of the character

[spiral raven]

u cant get love elf from selector

[lofty fern]

Ohh so how do I get her I want her outfit but i don't hv her ?? 😔

[spiral raven]

you wait for rerun on banner

[lofty fern]

Which one

[lofty fern]

When is rerun

Also hwo do we get crystals in game ? What gives crystals ??

[spiral raven]

in a week basically

[spiral raven]

abyss and er game mode, then its just p1 story that gives more

[lofty fern]

Ohh so elf girl has rerun

[last hull]

What do I run in MA given my shit limited roster of P2 valks?

[lofty fern]

Ohh i c

@spiral raven which character to pick
I hv current banner mei

[open bone]

||Silverwing NEX||

[last hull]

||Is she still worth it post nerfs||

[lofty fern]

Ohhh
Is she good ??!

[last hull]

||She gets a Divine Key next patch||

[open bone]

||She's getting new gear next patch to make her good yes||

[lofty fern]

Wht is divine key ?

[open bone]

||Yeah. 10 attack is 10 attack and there's no other new release valkyrie to get instead||

[spiral raven]

badum sonk helia
hohe lamp sena

[open bone]

||plus she might get buffed again before release||

[lofty fern]

Purchasing 25 of these gives me a S rank right ??
Whom to choose ??
@open bone @spiral raven @last hull

[last hull]

Nvm Im stupid

[spiral raven]

since when did lamp refer to vita

[spiral raven]

alg

[last hull]

Oh wait u did mean Lantern

[open bone]

no. You need more than 25 of those for an s rank new unlock

[spiral raven]

yes

[last hull]

Nvm Im even more stupid than I though

[open bone]

!faq spendguide

[night parcel]

Spending Event Guide

Not sure what to get, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see Professor Mango's guide on what to choose in the current spending event!
-# Also see [!faq spending](#👶beginner-help message) if you are not familiar with spending events.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[last hull]

You need 80 shards to unlock an S-rank

Just get her from the box and then you could buy the fragments for her

But do refer to the spending event guide first

[last hull]

Alright ty, malding for terrible score here I come

[spiral raven]

could try vita too, but main thing i was thinking is lamp is fast buff and drain

[lofty fern]

Oki ty
How to improve mei
Idh a weapon for her
What r stigmata
She is s2

[spiral raven]

u pull weap

[lofty fern]

where to start from I want to get crystals asap ?

[lofty fern]

How to pull weapon

@spiral raven @last hull

[tough crag]

Equipment supply

[lofty fern]

Ohk

[lofty fern]

This too guyz

[lofty fern]

This too

[spiral raven]

story

[open bone]

voice in the dreams (part 1 story)

gives lots of crystals and helps u level up

so u can unlock more things to give crystals

[lofty fern]

Okh
If i skip story entirely just spam the heck how many crystals will I get in how long

[open bone]

!faq crystals

[night parcel]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[open bone]

there's a lot of pulls in story, like 70 pulls in part 1

oh right you should also make sure to get an invite code from #invite-links-here and find a sensei

[lofty fern]

@open bone
Why can't I see her ult animation
She is she slashing in 150 cost circle thing ?? Pls guide e

@spiral raven

[open bone]

you only have 11 sp

you need to do basics (or weapon and then basics) to get more sp

to ult again

[spiral raven]

3rd basic restore ur sp

[lofty fern]

What causes ult ??

[spiral raven]

what do u mean what causes ult

you have no ring btw

she needs to be leader

[lofty fern]

No no I had like 150 then pressed 150 cost button but not ult

[vernal terrace]

Do they meaning something like Badum's Ult?

Doesn't happen with GoI Valks

[open bone]

Mei's ult does a bunch of damage and gives you another bar on the bottom

[vernal terrace]

They don't have special animation outside of SO

[open bone]

when you have 2 bars you can do a combo

and then 4 bars you can do 2 more combos

for big damage

[lofty fern]

Means ???
She just do slash kind of thing no animation

[lofty fern]

@vernal terrace

[spiral raven]

that's normal

[open bone]

yep if you look at the bottom

[lofty fern]

While herchesr of void does hv animation

[open bone]

she went from 0 grey to 1 grey

[lofty fern]

Soo.

[open bone]

yeah Mei's animations mostly are on her combos

not her ults

[vernal terrace]

[open bone]

you use ults to charge the combo

[vernal terrace]

Plus the finisher

[spiral raven]

bro go do tutorial

[open bone]

yeah that too

[vernal terrace]

[lofty fern]

I want to she animation like in game when a character use ult we get a animation right ??

[lofty fern]

Where to do tutorial

[spiral raven]

animation doesn't have to be on ult

[lofty fern]

Slo

[spiral raven]

u can just find it in event tab prob easiest

[spiral raven]

home screen event tab, find tab that looks like this

then blue button

[lofty fern]

Look I was asking Abt this
This r ult animation right ?? How do I get them @vernal terrace @open bone

[spiral raven]

that needs you to use ring

[vernal terrace]

^

[spiral raven]

and that means u need her to be on leader

and u see all of this once u do tutorial

just go to do tutorial and u see all the stuff she has

[lofty fern]

Oki
How to make a character leader
Plus how we only get one animation

[lofty fern]

Oki then

[spiral raven]

make sure in team select, they left most

[lofty fern]

I will do it

[spiral raven]

crown is on mei
and the bottom has a description of her leaderskill

[lofty fern]

Ohhh if I make her leader i won't get other characters ult animation

Plus what is end game in game ?
Apart from story and end game there is no prominent thing to get rewards bcz I other games mostly gives super easily rewards and all form events and all

[open bone]

no, other characters ult animation will still play

[spiral raven]

the animation ur looking for is not ult animation but the finaliser of the ring, which still plays on other valks

[open bone]

qmanifold

Eventually it'll be replaced by superstring dimension (level 81+) but that's the big competitive endgame that gives crystals

[rare iris]

Exalted Abyss and MA are considered end game modes in this game with how far the gap between Masters and Exalted boss HPs gets

[last hull]

What’s the max level u can get Higokumaru to in Sakura Samsara, I realized I technically never maxed out the map

[spiral raven]

30

[last hull]

Fah that’s gonna take a while

Is it worth it to select it over APHO to get the level up quests?

[spiral raven]

no idea, but long term wise it probs dont matter

[last hull]

Fair ig

[lofty fern]

Does the game has monthly shop I m so close to standard pity I wanna pull using standard pulls man ??

@last hull

[open bone]

You mean for dorm?

You can get tickets from armada and check-ins and the dorm shop

[lofty fern]

No like standard banner pulls

[spiral raven]

dats dorm

[spiral raven]

monthly 2 tickets from shop

[lofty fern]

Ohhh I want pulls for it

[open bone]

That’s dorm supply. Like I said you get pulls from armada and dorm shop and sign ins

[lofty fern]

Dorm shop 3 tickets dn
What is Amanda

[spiral raven]

guild

[open bone]

1 a month from free homu hoard, 2 a month from armada, 3 per patch from dorm shop

[lofty fern]

That's it
No bonus for newbie returnee and all ???

How do Increase this currency

[spiral raven]

returnee has like basiclaly nobonuses anyways

well like theres stuff u pay for ig

[open bone]

Cadet missions also give a ton but only one time

So get a sensei

[lofty fern]

🤧
Should I restart with new account this account only limited is zentinel mei s2

[open bone]

Starter manual has some too

[lofty fern]

What r cadet missions

[lofty fern]

How to unlock starter manual ???

[open bone]

Oh wait you’re a returnee?

I thought you were new. Sorry starter manual is new player only

[lofty fern]

Yesss

[lofty fern]

But like I m early game itself

[spiral raven]

lvl 24 returnee, but idk u can keep the acc if u want

[open bone]

Then you can still get sensei at least

[lofty fern]

So I won't get starter manual

[open bone]

Go to #sea-cadet-recruit

And find a sensei

[lofty fern]

I got sentinel mei s2 is she worth it ??

[lofty fern]

How ????

[spiral raven]

s2 mei alone doesnt mean a lot

[open bone]

She’s good but you are usually sipposed to get her weapon and not S2. Ranks are for whales

[lofty fern]

Should I restart with new account or keep this one u guys tell

[spiral raven]

but thats kinda how this game works, its divided into many race tracks if u like

[open bone]

If you already have S2 Mei I would keep it but it should be close

[lofty fern]

Ohhh I c

[lofty fern]

Close Means ?? Wht ??

[open bone]

As in, both are similarly good

New account = good bonuses, S2 Mei = good bonuses

[lofty fern]

What's better in my case u tell
All my Valkyrie

[open bone]

Like I said not much difference between them. Either way you’d be looking to get Mei + weapon

[lofty fern]

I sant get weapon if I spend on weapon i can't get elf outfit and elf herself

I love elf only reason I returned to be fair

[open bone]

Oh if you want Ely I would make a new account then yeah

[lofty fern]

I c
Man it sucks to be fair
How many hours untill reset in sea server

[open bone]

Could also consider waiting a few days and then rerolling for Ely when her banner goes up

But that’s probably worse than just saving until then

[lofty fern]

Hmmm

[open bone]

!faq reroll

[night parcel]

About Rerolling

Hey there, Captain!

Please see Professor Lyo's summary of rerolling [here](#👶beginner-help message)! Also see the Returnee Accounts pin [here](#👶beginner-help message) to see why restarting is recommended and remember, whether you want to reroll is completely your decision!

"Rerolling" refers to the process of restarting accounts until you obtain the target character/equipment within the first 10 supply pulls - not to be confused with "restarting", which is simply starting a new account and sticking with it regardless of luck.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[open bone]

For if u want to make ur own decision

[lofty fern]

I gotta be kidding to my self
I check hoyolab and my main account earlier was in US now I gotta download us version and what things I hv in that account
That's why I was wondering where was my hot mei

@open bone

😂🤧😒🫡

[open bone]

GG

[vernal terrace]

[earnest hamlet]

should i get S2 songque or lantern S2 or SS rank astral op songque

[neon narwhal]

SS songop has the most value since you unlock her ari regen for faster SO's in world star teams. || The unit next patch is world star so SongOp be nice to have as an alternative to youyun op ||
S2 for for songque and lantern is a minor buff and that too mainly for hitcount, and not that they're used much more anyway for it to contribute

[lapis raven]

ss sonk is nice as a general cope aop too, tho depending on what team/boss other aops at s rank may outperform her

shes been singlehandedly carrying me

[lyric blaze]

i should pick sw over hoh if i have no hoh dk right?

[cunning gull]

if this is the anni box, then just keep it

u dont need to open anything rn

[primal cove]

how do i do griseo shallow sequence like ive been following a tut and it somehow doesnt work for me

[cunning gull]

what are you following?

[primal cove]

aramuthornpetal's video

[cunning gull]

youre using the trial valk right? even followed the atk sequences?

[primal cove]

yea

[cunning gull]

do you have issues with the rotation or damage?

[primal cove]

my damage is consistent but sometimes she gets interrupted mid attack which screws up my run

[cunning gull]

do you mind sharing the video then?

[primal cove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVBw586AqEY

[cunning gull]

hmm nothing really seems off
maybe for the last enemy you can stay behind as you do the attacks
but as the vid said you wanna move when you see the red circle under you
also make sure you didnt forget to level her in ER so you can clear the stage well

[marsh iron]

Can yall give me a quick and easy team for the new Raiden Mei?

Note: I have all 3 Elysia's if that helps and uh.. yeah thats it

I have little to no knowledge about the game (although I am lvl 82)

And so I'd appreciate if yall help... hehe

[naive shoal]

could you send what battlesuits do u have?

the ones that are geared

also generally u can use anyone who has the grail of infinitude tag

[open bone]

well the tag is symbiosis

[small beacon]

i came back to the game after 1 year. i have lunar 4/4 should i get the divine key?

[open bone]

How many crystals do you have and what part 2 valkyries do you have

10 attack is 10 attack but if you don't have any crystals and don't have a team for her you might be better off saving

[small beacon]

i have 4/4 love elf and 0/4 badum kiana

[small beacon]

well idk her best team

im not getting it for 10 atk i wanna make her useful but idk how long she can stay

i have 4/4 vita as well

idk how astral stuff works

[open bone]

She's probably going to stick around 2ish years but she's a dkey valk so she's going to be a little niche for most of that time. And Vita can't really support her or vice versa

so even if you had a weather tied to her

she might not do very well on it when she has to run Luna Vita VBM instead of her proper team

!faq astral ring

[night parcel]

Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain!

Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!

Characters under the Astral Ring System will have one ring type (Specialization), and one or multiple tags (Attributes) that will determine how they can form teams. This system is only activated if a Character with Astral Ring is set as the leader. When activated:

• the leader's ring type will decide the team's playstyle.
• the team will benefit from effects (e.g., Stigmata buffs) that require Astral Ring.
• the team will gain access to Stellar Outburst, a high damage output state you can enter after charging enough energy (Astral Ring Intensity).

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

• World Star - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[small beacon]

i better off get 4/4 new mei right?

[naive shoal]

i mean astral ring yeah mb i was thinking of soemthing else

[open bone]

Mei would be a better pull (likely more longevity and can support world star ||like Silverwing Nex next patch||, or some older part 2 valkyries like Sena) but she's also more expensive

and I don't know how many crystals you have

[small beacon]

well pity is 50 rn no xtals but i came back after 1 year so i have a lot of content. luna dlc got 3 days left only so i think i should just skip right?

[open bone]

yeah. I would put my discounted 10 on Mei, and then try and save up crystals until I hit 17k before pulling for mei

so I can guarentee her weapon if I get her

don't want to accidentally brick yourself by getting her but no wep

[small beacon]

weapon pity is 60 but we can usually get the weapon before 60 right? do we have any average pull count of this kind of banners?

like "its 60 but usually comes at 30 or something?" stuff

[open bone]

As far as we know there is no soft pity for weapon

so hitting 60 pulls is fairly common

!faq rates

[night parcel]

The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

• Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k ) vs 78 pulls (22k )
• Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k )
• Worst Case:
• Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k ) vs 150 pulls (42k )

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[small beacon]

i see. i was wondering if i could try my luck on weapon with first 10x

im kinda lucky so

[open bone]

Well if you want to risk it I can't stop you but weapon with no valk is also bricked

so only if you're sure you can guarentee mei after, same deal

[small beacon]

HOHE dlc is strong and needed?

what kind of teams i can make

[pale palm]

Will the score go up if I use badum instead
does she provide better buffs for mei?

[lapis raven]

yes

not just because she provides better buffs but cos shes quicker too

[steady osprey]

actually not necessary. its just to bring back everyone's beloved hohe

[unkempt junco]

Guys what do you think is better for HoTr 3 piece stigma set+no sig weapon, or sig weapon+2 piece stigma set?

[fair bough]

Does Herrscher of Rebirth Stellar Key work with Xentinel Mei?

[vernal terrace]

[steady osprey]

3 set effect is more important. they even added 1 effect for Astral Ring though its pretty much exclusive for trio

the weapon is more important for dps

[steady osprey]

yes horb dk can support mei xdc but not as good as the best ones

[fair bough]

Thanks

[steady osprey]

well, since horb dk also deal physical dmg i guess she can help depleting the physical shield

i used ps for that vs DXY though

[lofty fern]

i m newbie I got hoe elysia in dorm supply should I reroll bcz she is free thou I love her u guyz tell me ?

[unkempt junco]

Ok, yeah I pretty much just want her to support Kiana and Mei

[prisma olive]

What did I miss?

[open bone]

Go to lobby. Go to table. Click pop up above table

[prisma olive]

Got it

[bleak blade]

why did i start with -150

[neon narwhal]

no score is auto trophy loss

[verbal axle]

whats the fastest ER boss for the new mei?

[crude cloak]

Should be Aponia if talking in-game timer
She has a long transition animation though

[nova reef]

what’s the best stuff and team for her early game?

[craggy plume]

VBM, TA. VBm from early part 2 story/asterite shop, TA from Asterite shop

[junior cave]

Is there a buying order for the stuff in the shop from this spending event?

I'm 4k gems away from affording songque.
Which I kinda want but don't got weapon.
Could also get the astralOP of her to replace default one.

Or characters shard for Elysia I was thinking to bring her rank up.

[cyan nova]

hey hi! good evening! do we have any cues on whats the next battlesuit type/ring?

[cyan nova]

if you have enough of those battle pass things you can buy her weapon there and craft the stigmas in the foundry (i did that) but i don't know if its a good acquisition, its more of a i-wish-for-it one

[spare nexus]

hey guys, if I pull on this banner now and don't get the weapon, then the pity will still be there when the banner comes back in about a week right?

[crude cloak]

Ye

[junior cave]

Oh true.
I gotta get Mei Origin's weapon from there too though.

Do the AstralOP even make a difference or is it hyper specific to a certain character/team?

[nova reef]

ty!