💁gameplay-help

[last hull]

I just realized that I have a shitton of characters in ER that aren't maxxed, is there a strat to getting lv 15 quick? Or is it just repeat ER runs over and over till u get it

[elfin parrot]

Uh do a full run on the highest diff you can for one week

The next week lite will be available

Lite let's you menu across the first 6 or so floor and go straight to the first boss

[last hull]

Oh that's useful

[elfin parrot]

Beat that boss. See progress saved. Quit. Get rewards for 6 floors or so worth from one fight including level ups

Ofc using less built valks will be more difficult but you can select the lower difficulty as needed

Lite doesn't unlock for diffs higher than what you cleared the prev week

[last hull]

If I quit before fighting, will it give significantly less? Or can I just leave right away and still get something

[elfin parrot]

You have to beat the first boss to get anything at all for lite

[last hull]

Ah ic

Yeesh ok this is still gonna take a while

[elfin parrot]

Other past methods include spamming shallow seq or doing full low diff runs

Anyway I'll prob hop off now but other profs and regs can still help

[last hull]

Alright tysm

[open bone]

If you do minimum difficulty you can max a valk in 5-10 minutes

[last hull]

Man that is still gonna be a LONG while

[open bone]

On lite

Times 25 tho yeah gonna be a few hours of work

[elfin parrot]

The games a marathon and not a sprint. Those aren't going anywhere so make sure to not burn out

[last hull]

True

[sand abyss]

if its fast crystals you are aiming for, do 3 shallows with trials then 1 deep sequence (easiest) to collect all ego signets

[open bone]

If you do one a day you could have em all done before Mei banner goes away and only 5 mins a day

[last hull]

And I have to still unlock BKE next week

And eventually get VV and DA as well

[finite barn]

lite abuse for er leveling, my favorite pasttime :P

[last hull]

Is there any way to get ahold of Xuanyuan sword, it's the only DKey I dont have other than the Stellar Keys

Other than abyss but that can easily be crafted

[sand abyss]

so far xy sword was given away only once iirc, but it should come to bp later on

[last hull]

Why tf is this weapon still so rare 3 years after I started playing LMAO

[sand abyss]

because it only come out on cny from firesupply before, so once per year haha

[open bone]

Also given away in FDD patch spending

[last hull]

Will I be able to get 60K asterite from scratch before time capsule leaves?

Or am I asking for way too much

[last hull]

I now realize I have fucked up by buying those stigs cause I forgot how expensive PRI-Arm mats are

[finite barn]

We used to be able to do 15k a week iirc for frags?

Oh wait no apparently it was 25k per week

According to me 2 years ago

[lyric blaze]

does sus or luna score better on pischaha ma?

[plucky gust]

sus is better, assuming you have the supports.

[cunning gull]

its ps leader
can do lv leader if u dont have ps
can even use both

[prisma olive]

How do you play XDC Mei in ER?

[cunning gull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abZxvWNMxK4 you can use this for now until the pinned guide is updated
but for the shallow sequence then its updated (pins also)

[dull sphinx]

Or you can ask me, me have both build in mind

[hardy elm]

what can i use instead of coralie in a mei team

[vernal terrace]

What do you have for Symbiosis Valks?

[hardy elm]

everything but coralie

[prisma olive]

What's the non-AO build?

[half hatch]

Hle comes pretty close to her

Sometimes even better

It really depends tbh

[vernal terrace]

Boss dependant yeah

[hardy elm]

for this current abyss

[half hatch]

Yeah hle

[prisma olive]

Should I try to get Luna's new weapon?

[sand abyss]

as long as your Mei is done

[prisma olive]

Yes

But I'm also thinking of getting HLE too

[sand abyss]

ahh.. if you have songque

u can jus go for HLE

else jus grab who you like more, its fun that way

[half hatch]

Really depends on your crystals count and your goals, I think that LV dkey does sound like a solid option especially considering the atk buff which can be quite important if you're competitive, I do think that HLE is a relatively good unit but her DPS shill is already starting to decline. Given said shill can be quite cancerous especially if you don't own any other SD DPS besides Sena but taking the L on some bosses is also fine

In general I wouldn't really recommend going for HLE now from a meta perspective but it's up to you

[prisma olive]

27k xtals with the eventual 10 equipment tickets and 5 battlesuit tickets

[half hatch]

Imo it's a bit up to you but the meta decision here would be to get LV dkey || maybe also keep in touch with CN news to see if the next version has something that might be useful for you and base your decision on that ||

[vernal terrace]

||Still waiting on more info||

[pale musk]

does new Mei have any animation cancels to learn?

[dull sphinx]

Lemme check here
Kalpass 1
Griseo 1
Kebin 1
Pardo 1
Vill-v 1
Ego you want both not staller burst one

And WA - BA - ULT - ULT - loop

[craggy ivy]

Henlo what meta deck for tcg event

[plucky gust]

imo the counter attack one.

but the bleed one is nasty

at least, in terms of gameplay, i find the counter attack one very good.

[open bone]

tbh I think bleed gets even stronger if you stop running teri on it

I've been running bronya third

just for the card advantage

[vernal terrace]

Wait really?

[open bone]

I think teri is not great ngl

needs to have her advanced battlesuit to even do anything and with it she's still mediocre

while the bronya gets you card advantage right off the bat

draws you deeper into your deck for your pots of greed, er, crystal chests and such

[vernal terrace]

Lol pot of greed

[open bone]

I'm running Susannah PS Bronya, 1 copy of silverwing, 2 calm baby, 2 twirling glaze, and then healing potions crystals targeted aquisition comedic defense (all x2)

and then last 4 slots depend but currently running gloves and bleed flowers even tho they kinda suck

from lack of better options

[vernal terrace]

Could run brick

[open bone]

nah brick worse

[vernal terrace]

Nvm then

[open bone]

if I was running anything else I'd run a battlesuit supply prolly

or maybe a wep supply

but yeah card advantage good

[vernal terrace]

That is true, better draw power = success

[open bone]

havent really been malding too much so im only at rl rn

[vernal terrace]

I can easily promo this cycle but Bleed Tribunal would be a nightmare in Nirvana

[open bone]

oh no I meant for card event

im about to go to nirv there too mind

[vernal terrace]

Ah

You'll have a better chance than me in Abyss

[open bone]

Why? You have chen and ps and fdd

s2 too

[vernal terrace]

You sure PS dps would be great?

[open bone]

no for luna supp

[vernal terrace]

My Luna not prepared

[open bone]

?

[vernal terrace]

No DKey

[open bone]

dkey where

[plucky gust]

true, and since the "energy" limit is limited on certain actions, not all cards, then draw = good.

[vernal terrace]

I'm still trying to pull it before Tribunal

[open bone]

yeah if it was more like mtg then card advantage would be less critical but

there's no mana here

so just play all the cards u can

[plucky gust]

i mean there are, but not all. just the valk upgrade, their ult, and some cards. so yea. its like playing yu-gi-oh, but only decks with counters

[open bone]

yeah fair there's a lil mana but none of your draw cards or counterspells or equip cards take it

[plucky gust]

like holy hell turn 1 bleed can 12 -> 0 a front row if they can't stop their chain multiple times

[open bone]

yeah

[plucky gust]

and my deck is counter attack. rng-specific, and needs dudu upgrade, otherwise it sucks. but once that part is cleared, it can tank even bleed decks, since every time they attack, the enemy front row will get -3. hahaha

[open bone]

yeah as long as u dont get too low before u get it online

[plucky gust]

if i can't upgrade dudu to bke after 3rd round, im dead basically vs bleed

[open bone]

you have the character search cards in the deck too?

what specials are you running

could consider the healing ones too

just to buy more time

[open bone]

whats pity like

[plucky gust]

that's the strat basically. here's my cards. the ones not in the screenshot are:

• 2x weapon that gives the holder -2 received damage
• 1x boxing gloves
• 1x usb

legit the boxing gloves and usb are basically discards once the engine is going

[open bone]

tbh I'd consider swapping out the targeted acquisition for another comedic defense

could also consider tada the blow

over it

[plucky gust]

true. sure. i'd just remove the gloves or USB really.

[vernal terrace]

32

[open bone]

or electrifying arc

both seem more usefu than gloves

tho Ig targeted acquisition -> evades isn't nothing

it'd just pmo if I accidentally discarded both bkes lmao

[vernal terrace]

We don't have access to that deck yet but it seems fun

[plucky gust]

this happened to me once, when i thought: "i just need one upgrade since worst case scenario, just spam dudu ult 3x and i can tutor the thing". then on one round where i lacked cards, used targetted acquisition and BKE was there. my eyes dropped and quit.

[open bone]

yeah see electrifying arc seems way safer then lmao

[plucky gust]

what's electrifying arc btw? i can't see it. . . and i don't really empahize on weapons because if they die, the weapon also gets discarded, so yea. i only value the Prophetic Dreams simply because of its defensive utility.

[open bone]

weapon that gives a draw discard on first basic attack of turn

see what I do with weapons is put them on the people I qte out later

[plucky gust]

so this?

[vernal terrace]

Yeah

[open bone]

oh oops is it tada

sorry, I rememver crossbow

and my brain is dumb

[vernal terrace]

It's close enough lol

[plucky gust]

english TL team, please make it consistent~

[vernal terrace]

You thought of a crossbow at least

[open bone]

no I think it's tada the blow on NA too

[vernal terrace]

Yeah

[open bone]

I just think helia wep lol

[vernal terrace]

Calm baby makes your opponent discard I think?

[plucky gust]

ngl umbral rose is kinda useless here in my deck. i just need sus and bke. . .

[open bone]

yeah, also card advantage

calm baby is one of the weps that's worth it even if u only trigger it once before dying

so I like it even on bleed

most weps need to last a while to be good but it's diff

[plucky gust]

yea. calm baby is pretty darn good vs my deck. also trap disruption. i don't need much energy, but i need 3 energy to upgrade my dudu. if they just burn my energy = im dead

[open bone]

I hate the energy burning cards a ton because they're so inconstant

like if u load them into bleed = dead slot

[plucky gust]

ooh yea, and my deck doesn't have much draw, really. i really want some draw power. . . like the QTE deck has a crap ton of draw power

[open bone]

can you fit bronya in there?

[plucky gust]

probably. rita is useless, really

[open bone]

well there you go

more draw power

[plucky gust]

but once the engine is online, you dont want to qte switch... hmmm...

[quaint saffron]

is p2 mei the best support for p2 Luna?

[open bone]

Depends on boss. FDD often top

and then for stuff like bleed trib PS hitcount comes in key

[normal crane]

Hi i plan to try to pull for chenxue. Is it a good idea? Since i kinda want a different astral op other than dreamseekr

[open bone]

You can’t afford to get her to SS rank

And at S rank she’s basically a dreamseeker reskin

[normal crane]

oh so she needs to be ss rank

[open bone]

If you want another aop you can try to get Sonque from spending event? She’s not amazing but at least she doesn’t take crystals

[normal crane]

won't i need to spend 44k gems ?

[open bone]

Well presumably you already spent a bunch on Mei and wep?

And some more from carnival next week

But yeah if you’re a long way off maybe hold off on the gacha ops entirely

!faq gachaop

[night parcel]

Should I Pull AstralOps?

NOO CAPTAIN!

If you are a f2p meta player, you should not pull gacha AstralOps - only players who are retaining or trying to retain Nirvana should consider it if they have the funds (unlikely for f2p players).

Reasons:

• Dreamseeker is good enough despite being free.
• Too expensive, especially if they need SS (~20-30k).
  • AstralOps have the same cost as a gacha weapon, therefore pulling one may result in being unable to afford a Valkyrie's weapon down the line (for meta players, this means skipping said Valkyrie entirely).
• The damage and score increase they provide in Redlotus and below is often minimal and not needed to retain.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[normal crane]

ah sorry i didn't tell you. i got lucky with the pulls and got both her and her weapon around 12k ish

[normal crane]

oh i didn't know that. so most aop needs at least SS rank for them to be usable?

[dark phoenix]

not really, but if you need AO, you should be competing with SS AO in nirvana, not S or free AO in red lotus and below

[half hatch]

well not usable they'll still be better than DS in certain rings but if you're already pulling aops you want to get the actual really good benefits ( not saying that the ones at S rank aren't good they're just not as good most of the time) most of the time the main utility you'd want from an AOP is ari regen + initial ari which requires SS on every aop ( normally ari regen is the one that unlocks at SS)
Sometimes you may also get some other utility like a second stellar shift for the leader in LoA from teri aop
Generally the standard is also set by who you're competing against and often times nirv peeps will pull aops at SS or SSS rank

[normal crane]

ok i see ty. Since i'm not competitve. It'd be more wiser for me to not pull for another aop

Am i free to pull for the skins? ik they're just visual. But from what i see. The next patch won't affect me much right?

[half hatch]

they're not needed yeah DS is fine, in the end at some point you may feel comfortable enough in RL to skip a valk for an aop out of casual reasons but this would be your decisions in the end

[half hatch]

just make sure you can gurantee them, i'd also prob wait until we have v2 beta in CN so that we know what's actually coming in 8.8

v2 should be next week just keep up with #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins

[normal crane]

aight thx. i can gurantee the skin so i just need to know if there isn't anything op in the next patch

[half hatch]

yeah we just dont really know a lot about it yet hence why i'm suggesting to wait until v2 beta

[normal crane]

ok i will be patient

[rotund forge]

the time I stop playing when Coralie came out continue to haunt me to this day huh, any replacement?

[half hatch]

new elysia

she's actually BiS here

[rotund forge]

ok I have her

yeah long ass climb to go back to Agony

[spiral raven]

wont lie chief, u can play anything in sinful to promote probs

[rotund forge]

pretty much but still when I go back to agony I still need a working Raiden team

[spiral raven]

well u do have it so thats good

[rotund forge]

also whats the general consensus on dlc? do people roll for them or just skips all of them

[spiral raven]

just pull

no reason to skip other than u have no crystals basically

[open bone]

Atk is atk

[spiral raven]

yessir

[rotund forge]

yeah I guess I can roll for Teri

[quaint saffron]

i mean the third unit support, sorry.
I know drag coralie is a good one, cuz it's shown on the trial stage.
so, i am trying to find the third okayge support, cuz i think i won't be pulling mei- ~

[open bone]

Like I said, Ps can be good for hit count

Or Badum is always fairly strong and fast

[half hatch]

i mean i wouldnt really take the tutorial for it's word but any other symbioses unit should work, preferably ps/fws/hle/paws

other symbioses supports are know to be a bit sub optimal but can still work ofc

[dapper roost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv6T6VZUG64 How come I'm doing so much less damage than in this video, with the same team of FWS and HLE, my XDC can't even kill first phase after 2 full combo, but this guy just do it with 1 full combo ?

[spiral raven]

ur gear maxed and whats atk?

also which one u copying

[dapper roost]

the FWS HLE DS at 0:00, My XDC has 1393 ATK

[dapper roost]

The XDC in the video has 1490 ATK, Would a 100 difference make such a big difference?

[spiral raven]

not sure, unless u can send what ur doing

but shouldn't be like 2x the dmg from what ur describing

[open bone]

Probably a rotation issue with buffs not actually applying from supports

[void canopy]

quick q I havent done it in forever, which is more fun for elysian realm lantern, astral ring or no astral ring? O:

[spiral raven]

idk thats hella subjective, why not give both a try

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1087608112506216518/1360146795292000287/1744270622897.gif

[void canopy]

true, and oh, might have unfinished ego signet collections to do for her lol

ive got so many characters I never fully upgraded

[spiral raven]

well not like theres a rush to it

so its fine

[void canopy]

nah i just wish I had more time lol. im an idiot playing too many gachas O:

need to do the ZZZ version of elysian realm still and just a few more hours

[spiral raven]

at least its fast

[vast lagoon]

why doesn't luna's new qte trigger on PS weapon active while sparkle/fdd's does? (pishacha)

[craggy plume]

It should be QTE: Triggered when an enemy is in Time Fracture, or when a teammate uses weapon active or deals damage with Combo ATK.

[lament prairie]

who from WT are we expecting to swap from AL to AW next?

I'm not sure if there were any that changed this patch, I didn't notice any

[cunning gull]

i don't think this patch
was the few patch before

[dusk bridge]

I don't have HLE for mei , so can Vita replace it

[cunning gull]

can you show what do u have

[craggy plume]

LP doesn't have symbiosis, so no.

[cunning gull]

also what context

[cunning gull]

i assume no other part 2s?
then mei paws and a roo unit (can use vita)
not the best but at least roo valks still have basic buffs

but the rotation will be awkward

since mei likes to spam her ults

also no lv or can't get her dkey?

[dusk bridge]

ok ty

[dusk bridge]

I am poor

[cunning gull]

ah.. then yeah run what i said

[open bone]

Hofi might be better than vita

You’ll have to try both but Hofi is fast and unlocks Mei’s Kiana passive

Probably depends on the run

[vast lagoon]

only pishacha on intro. works normally when it fully appears. but other valks' qte triggers as it should

[last hull]

Speaking of Pishacha

Wtf do I run against it? I have no PS and my VQ is 0/4

[open bone]

No Luna either?

[last hull]

Nope

[eager dawn]

Which of these would have more impact than others?

[last hull]

Me brokie

[open bone]

How’s your CE and SI?

[last hull]

Like which AstralOp? Prolly Chenxue, tho if ur F2P its prolly not the best idea to pull Ops to begin with

[open bone]

Probably Chenxue would be the biggest addition to your account rn (though ||we’re due a new astral op next patch||) but it really depends on what Valkyries you have how many crystals and what your goals are

[last hull]

SI 3/4 but not SSS
CE S rank 0/4, not a consideration

[last hull]

I tried both DKey HS and copium VQ but both did terribly

[open bone]

Could try SI horb TA https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1zu4y187XS

If you have P1 horb

[last hull]

I do

[open bone]

Otherwise just brute force it with P2 valks

Oh cool try that ref then

[last hull]

Pistachio is typeless right

[eager dawn]

I feel like pulling enough to get currencies to get Songque in the shop. At present, I'm 70 pulls away from Mei, and I spent a lot to get the new set for Theresa.

[open bone]

Sonque sounds like a better option then because she doesn’t involve wasting pulls yeah

[eager dawn]

Which means I probably won't have Mei's set even if I get her

[last hull]

Video does not exist

[open bone]

If you can get her while going for Mei and wep that’s good

[open bone]

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1pm421K7Qa then oops

Otherwise just brute force with HLE or smth ig

[last hull]

Dont have her either

[eager dawn]

Thanks btw

[last hull]

My account is kinda not doing great

[open bone]

Then uh use SI or whoever you have spare from tank and alien guard

And cope about it

[last hull]

Evil lady bruteforce it is

[open bone]

Can probably also use RS over Ta there if you have her

For better results

[last hull]

Wait no I can't use Vita

I dont have Cora or HFI DKey

[open bone]

List all your Valkyries then

And I’ll see what we can cook up

P2 or geared P1

[last hull]

https://act.hoyolab.com/app/community-game-records-sea/bh3/index.html?bbs_presentation_style=fullscreen&bbs_auth_required=true&gid=1&user_id=140713366&utm_source=hoyolab&utm_medium=gamecard&bbs_theme=dark&bbs_theme_device=1#/bh3

[open bone]

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV11ayoYWEhf or this for si oops

[last hull]

Oh wait I could probably go like

Badum JD Vita?

For bruteforce?

[open bone]

Sure. Badum JDS Vita on pisch, or maybe paws and one fo those elsewhere, Lantern Sena Simp on tank (or jds)

maybe jds on alien guard

since she can help 0sec it

[last hull]

I used HFS on tank for... some reason

Why? I have no idea

[open bone]

How did she score

[last hull]

Pretty bad ngl

Um lemme pull it up

Tho tbf I wasnt really trying too hard

[open bone]

anyway you could still change up your team for tank

nothing forces you to stick to 3 guys

[last hull]

My ass w SS HFS and 0/4 Ai

[open bone]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV13G2gYBEcY/
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1aZahe7Ev9/
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV14Xaee7ECD/
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1zT421r7VE/ Try one of these for alien guard maybe

and then badum vita paws brute force on pisch

and lds simp sena on tank

kinda cope but should function

[last hull]

Time to learn these teams

I feel like Im back in school lol

[last hull]

And thank you for your help

[eager dawn]

BTW who's in the next BP shop? I'm wondering if HoRe is still relevant

[cunning gull]

current: paid bp is jds (songque valk) + her stamps + her sig weap
reserve works: horb + hold gear + kira gear + some old weaps

8.8: unknown its too early

also by HoRe who do you mean?
reason?
rebirth?

[eager dawn]

Rebirth

[cunning gull]

shes meta rn but need her new set which isnt available rn
not worth the backpull unless you think you have a consideration

[open bone]

It's unclear. Timeline wise one might expect MMG next? And then after that Luna FOV Sena? But Mihoyo has played fast and loose with timelines, could easily be diff order

[cunning gull]

at least the paid one is prob sci unless they mess up the order or something

[eager dawn]

Which unit wants her as support?

[open bone]

most WS dpses

she's also used a bunch in memorial arena and is a decent option for mei

[eager dawn]

Oh, maybe I won't need her much
I only have Sena

[open bone]

yeah even then she's more of a nice option than a must have

often times Vita Badum is BiS still, or even hofi

[potent flame]

can somebody explain to me how to play counter deck with BKE efficiently? during the tutorial I didn't really pay attention

i suppose it's random based and it doesn't depend on your hand at all. if attack card is drawn from the deck it successfully evades/blocks?

[neon narwhal]

stack your hand with evades to use for counters while gamba for attack card draws. Use rita ult to reduce damage using switches but generally try to keep dudu on front

can mix sus ult in for more counter attacks, I'm forgetting desc for exact order rn but you can chain rita sus ult in an order to keep dudu on front with both buffs

[grand spire]

could anyone tell me what does Ba Dum's combo atk do as support? i cant seem to find it in her skills but i do see it being used in videos and do feel some extra dmg after using it

[vernal terrace]

Applies her buff and triggers her stellar drain

[elfin parrot]

Read 3pc effect of stigmata. One of its condition for the team effect is combo attack.

Stellar drain can be found in the astral ring (center) section of her skills

!faq stellar drain

[night parcel]

What is "Stellar Drain" ? <:RozaNotLikeThis:859471233711865866>

Don't worry, Captain, I'm here to Help

Stellar Drain is a mechanic where using specific attacks to hit an enemy can restore a large amount of Astral Ring Intensity ([ARI](#👶beginner-help message)).
However, each Character on the team only gets 1 stack of Stellar Drain and can only consume their own stack. This stack is restored across the team when entering battle or exiting Stellar Outburst (SO).
Normally the amount of ARI generated by consuming Stellar Drain is 20 if the Character has the matching attribute for that team. When the Character does not have the matching attribute for that team they usually restore 10 ARI. (for more info on team building, view [!faq ring](#👶beginner-help message)).

• Note that:
• Stellar Drain stacks are NOT visible
• Stellar Drain stacks can NOT exceed 1 per Character
• when attacking an enemy, the game may register your attack as a hit even if you don't see any actual damage numbers; this may be because the enemy is hidden or non-targetable
• the amount of ARI generated can also be affected by weapon passives/Character skills
• Characters may have multiple ways to consume Stellar Drain; for example, FWS can consume Stellar Drain with her CA and her enhanced WA

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[last hull]

@open bone Ok how do I play this team for Pistachio cause LoA is confusing asf to me

Also should I swap Songque for Dreamseeker

[sturdy vortex]

uh, when u have too much gold what do u spend it on?

[elfin parrot]

I rather you have more than less especially when you expect to get new things to invest in

But ultimately coins can be spent on normal crystal cores for affixes

[sturdy vortex]

its just that i have... 169m gold

but affix, got it thanks

never asked what to spend them on for some reason so it just accumulated

[elfin parrot]

There's a more indirect way to spend coins to convert into affixes if you buy out the daily cap too

[sturdy vortex]

wait, i thought thats what u meant by the previous message?

[elfin parrot]

We can cover other uses later. A bit busy atm

[sturdy vortex]

in the coin shop affix thingy

[sturdy vortex]

ohh, alr ping me later when ur free then if someone doesnt answer before then

[mint plover]

does anyone know if the abyss rice cake transition qte bug is dependent on fps?

when i tried with 400 fps i couldnt get it to work no matter what i tried but when i forced every setting to the limit and got it down to 200fps its working fine

[lament prairie]

there's a bug???

[narrow cedar]

there's a bug where FWS is locked on Lyo's account

[round arch]

Darius, teach me how to play s2 mei without qte and scoring at least 7-8 more points than s0

Cause s2 feels like skem

[last hull]

How bad is my score

[elfin parrot]

good pishacha scores are going to be around 1-2s at this point but i mean i'm not going to expect that sort of score from you

take a look at the reward section. There's various types.

• What's important in this case is you get enough score on the SSS bosses to get the rewards there (which you can see at the bottom with the blue bar of your first screenshot). In some cases this may not be reasonable and all you're really losing is 20 crystals on the boss and WT currency
• Challenge rewards are most important and only need you to clear enough fights to get them regardless of time. 100 crystals and 1 source prism mainly here
• Ranking rewards. You mainly get AW here. The emblems along the top are temporary. Not a priority really.

[last hull]

I can easily get all the rewards, but I was hoping that I could try and aim for 2% so that I could try and get DA faster from the War Treasury so I could unlock her for ER

Is 2% even possible given my current account state though

[formal wigeon]

Did you not get Susanah things before you left ?

[last hull]

No

[formal wigeon]

sadge

tho tbh I see you tried SI so if you have her gear Susannah would still do better than your current stuff on farmables (tho idk if you'd have those either anyways)

[last hull]

That's the issue

[formal wigeon]

no cez either ?

[last hull]

My VQ is 0/4

[formal wigeon]

I did that when she released
https://youtu.be/CBuw_lemqfc

[last hull]

I dont have Shuijing or SSwords either

Is that even worth crafting atp

[formal wigeon]

prolly not, she can use a bunch of sets and SSS is a lot stronger than S (SS does close to nothing tho)

[last hull]

Also I may or may not have locked Purana to tank already

[formal wigeon]

you don't have a free slot for susannah on pinata either

but can keep it in mind if it comes back

[last hull]

Oh wait

[last hull]

What else can she actually use?

Oh wait Aladdin is craftable now

[formal wigeon]

is it ?

[last hull]

Wait lemme check

I thought I saw it

Yes it is

I actually have Aladdin T somehow

So I could craft 2 sets of MB

Although Im not sure if that would be the best use of my ether fuel

[formal wigeon]

you can make 1 MB if you want, if you do get PS somehow she can use ala MB on one of the support (on Vita iirc)

[last hull]

I was thinking 1 MB for VQ herself (since I doubt I would be able to get PS atp without bricking my acc further)

And another MB for HRB

Cause iirc HRB is only better than HS if she has Aladdin

[formal wigeon]

if you really want to eventually use VQ you can do that, but idt you'd find use for her outside MA pinata anyways (and idr how HRB compared there vs HoS)

[last hull]

I feel like unless I could get PS+gear in some way Im pretty much forced to use VQ for bleed content

Cause I don't have Luna either

[formal wigeon]

for abyss you'd likely be better off bruteforcing it

[last hull]

True

I have PAWS so at least I have a bio valk for PS's weathers

[formal wigeon]

and MA I think sampo has some bleed stuff ? but susan won't do shit there anyways

so pretty much just pinata

[last hull]

Btw did u see my DM

[formal wigeon]

ye

[last hull]

Alrighty

So I guess just use PAWS for bruteforcing PS weathers?

[formal wigeon]

pretty much yeah

she also does decent on the hitcount part of PS shilling so there's that

[last hull]

Btw does anyone have a 946 ref for Alien Guard w JD?

[small salmon]

is crit dmg affix still good on new mei like the other phys valks or is atk just better?

[formal wigeon]

full atk is better

but if you find a good cdm affix you can keep it to save yourself some reroll pain

I think I saw someone say 1 max cdm roll is roughly worth the same as a 19-20 atk roll (but each further roll is worth less)

[last hull]

Yea I feel like CDMG is only good if you know u can actually crit, which is not really something you can control unless the off chance comes up where you need to use Serapeum for whatever reason (almost never)

[small salmon]

i saved a decent cdmg afix but my wafer stabilizers ran out, so i'll have to live with it for a while

[formal wigeon]

you will crit on all the important hits anyways

if you don't crit you don't deal dmg

[last hull]

Yea it wont be the end of the world anyways

[soft briar]

which is best choice to pick

[open bone]

I think technically fallen rosemary has the most use since she's ER and stress test rather than just er but none have competitive use and you'll get them all eventually for the crystals so.

[soft briar]

this is what i own.
and i stopped playing during the heights of Hersherr of Reason. only recently i found out she is now considered "dogshit" in honkai chat.

...so anything of the 3 that can help revitalize my account

[open bone]

Not really, like I said none of them have competitive use. But you have Xentinel Dawnbearing crescent so you can just use her

with free supports like Valkyrie Blastmetal and Terminal aide from the asterite shop

and maybe grab badum fiery wishing star or behold fate defying dragon from carnival free pulls if you're lucky

[soft briar]

oh how to fet that

get*

[open bone]

Asterite is the purple gems. THere's a shop for them, basic currency, where you can buy Terminal Aide and Blastmetal fragments

Blastmetal is also available from the part 2 story really early on and has her weapon free there

they're both A rank valkyries

[dull sphinx]

Yes, the 2nd and 5th one

[soft briar]

okau

how many shards to unlock its use

as a valkyrie

[dull sphinx]

Click on it and you can see, iirc is 40ish

[soft briar]

oh i see it.

blastmetal limited to 25 shards to purchase

so cant use her yet lol

[dull sphinx]

It refresh every week

[soft briar]

so those 3 works well with the new raiden mei unit?

2*

[half hatch]

not excactly well but you don't have anyone better at the moment

[soft briar]

thanks. i wish i can get raiden weapon xD

[half hatch]

definitely try to got for that

[dull sphinx]

Terminal aide doesn't but, you have no better choice

[soft briar]

@half hatch @dull sphinx so for now what weapon works on her

[half hatch]

just use the one with the highest atk,

keep the weapon at levle 35 though

[soft briar]

ok

[dull sphinx]

Anything would work until you get her full set

You not playing competitive anyway, and doing ER doesn't necessarily need weapon

[soft briar]

im this far in story. as a day1 player. think i can get enough to pull her weapon?

[dull sphinx]

Probably, plus all the ER shallow sequence crystals

You should be gtg

[last hull]

Does anyone have a 946 ref for Alien guard w JD

[lime grail]

https://youtu.be/-h59MHUUphk?si=NhnhgSEhRu5TB97b
https://youtu.be/xNI5PX29YRQ?si=Hgx8Rl8TtisUGeir

also hi myc

[last hull]

Hai hello Im back to the game… for some reason

[last hull]

Erm I dont have Avo what do I do

[lime grail]

bro theres like 6 kills there

[last hull]

I CANT DO ANY OF THEM

I dont have DoS for Senti

Or Avo

[lime grail]

what about the first one

the thel sena que

[last hull]

No Avo or Miss Pillow

No Thelema

Unless Lantern or HHE would work

[lime grail]

for lantern also need thel

[last hull]

Welp Im cooked

[lime grail]

do u have hoo and hfi key

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-ld75kc_YTaQNAtqeus-rxnl1ljd5gFx&si=lDrOwdvUoKx41Cc2

[last hull]

Nope

[lime grail]

check this playlist

[last hull]

[lime grail]

theres a million kills there

[last hull]

That’s insane that I can replicate none of them

My account is cooked

[lime grail]

do u only have songque or something 🥀

[last hull]

Could I make HHE Sena JD work for 946

[lime grail]

no

[last hull]

Damn

[lime grail]

doubt songque can kill on her own

since the other two are dead weight

[last hull]

Im still kinda learning how team building works w P2

[lime grail]

they both buff of course but would lose time

[lime grail]

its ok

take the best you can get with that team

you know that first jds kill i sent, try to do that but on transition try to farm as many songque combo thingies as possible

[last hull]

I probably could have done the HFS one except I used her on tank

Which is funny when you consider I have Lantern too

[lime grail]

ideally you use wa before boss becomes vulnerable again so you only hit it with combo but doubt its possible

[lime grail]

hfs on tank

[last hull]

Oh I have S2 Sena at least so that maybe would help?

Or still not enough

[lime grail]

nah her ranks dont buff

sena is a terrible 946'er

[neon narwhal]

kinda need thel instead of sena for that team for p2

[last hull]

Dammit

[lime grail]

the only kill sena has is with HFS LE but even i can't pull it off

prob because i dont have magty

[last hull]

Me neither

LE in the big 2026

[lime grail]

https://youtu.be/cD6JdAX6_uI?si=5qPKqbkSqqRME9Ro

i really wish i could pull it off cuz i love sena but screw magty

[last hull]

So I guess I just have to take the L?

[lime grail]

yea take the 893

im gonna try your cursed team

[last hull]

HHE Sena JD?

Or smth else

[lime grail]

who do you have

[last hull]

Part 2 characters

Sena LDS Eepy HHE JD

I have Badum Vita PAWS but I used them to bruteforce Pistachio

I dont have XenMei yet

[lime grail]

i see

[lime grail]

yes

im gonna try brb

most i can get is a 840

[spiral raven]

got any p1

[lime grail]

oh yea i forgot to say luna works

[spiral raven]

si sns jds works really easily as well

vq and hot also works

[lime grail]

vq 🥀

[junior cave]

What is the likelyhood of gettin' 60 pulls this patch?

[lime grail]

@last hull do u have TA weapon

[spiral raven]

possible

[junior cave]

Where would most the pulls come from, events and end-game, or story?
I'm pretty behind in story, somewhere in the early part 2 stuff.

[spiral raven]

abyss and er

the rest is log in bonus like the 10 supply cards login

events gives very little

[junior cave]

Also, maybe I should be more specific,
I need 60 pulls to get the new character's weapon.
I got the character, and last time I played I remember characters are pretty useless without their weapons I assume that's still true.

[spiral raven]

well then u should ask not how much u can get this patch but how much before banner closes

[spiral raven]

but yeah its still true and idk might be rough

[junior cave]

Ye I realised the time-frame probably did not line up right xd

[spiral raven]

if you stil have some one-time xtal sources

whether p1 story or something like that

or er chars not fully leveld up

then maybe

[last hull]

Yes TA is 4/4

[junior cave]

where would the one time stuff be, Material->Supplies?

[lime grail]

and my que is s2

[spiral raven]

story and er is the place to look

[lime grail]

can 946 if u have the dmg but if i dont imagine u

[junior cave]

Ah, thought ya meant consumable.

[last hull]

Mine S0

[spiral raven]

nah

[spiral raven]

nah dont need s2

ur prob doing something wrong?

【格卡雀2星U批发记忆战场异星肃卫（补阙）31946-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/5MDGAZx

hos makes it more easier
【降维打击 格识s0雀轻取0秒异星肃卫31946-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/J0Dbdim

[lime grail]

not using mkp

[junior cave]

for ER, I have in Shallow Sequence:
12 characters at 0/9, and a 2-3 a at like 4/9 or so.

[lime grail]

he dont have it

[junior cave]

Tomorrow I can probably get another with the key I think

[lime grail]

unless he has a phys elf (i dont) he might have enough dmg

[spiral raven]

just use hos then

[lime grail]

he dont have avo

[spiral raven]

well at least looks like there's some hope

[junior cave]

Got 10 characters at lv1, and like 5 not max lvl.

Besides the weekly rewards where else would gems come from in ER?

[spiral raven]

so what does he have

[spiral raven]

no where else

[lime grail]

the p2 chars u first replied his message to and rest idk

[junior cave]

Alright I'll work towards those and the end-game stuff + whatever events are live before the banner ends.

Should I even focus on story for gems or is it really that little rewarded?

[spiral raven]

p1 story gives a decent amount

p2 gives way less and consider it later if you desperate ig, events probs give more than p2 story

[junior cave]

I've finished that, honestly one of the best stories I've read lol.
Part 2..not so much for me.

I am still at the start-ish though for p2.

[spiral raven]

idk how much that amounts to but if its like 5 pulls collectively that would be a lot

it wont add up to 10 pull

[spiral raven]

just bother with it after u done with everything else

[junior cave]

Looks like gathering ER signets or somethin' will give me ~1200 gems too

[junior cave]

Would the lore channel be best to talk about story or is there one hidden away somewhere specifically for story discussion?

[neon narwhal]

both lore and honkai chat works, lore probably if you want long discussion

[junior cave]

Alrighty ty

Hm, if my quik maf is right there might be ~10k gems in ER left.
Between weekly and end game + events I'd need ~ 6k gems still?
for the 60 weapon pity.

And the end-game is just Superstring Dimension?
Should I bother with Memorial Arena?
Idk if I even got teams for that tbh

[spiral raven]

ma gives like nothing

u don't need to care too much

but u might be short on prisms

in that case do wanna at least do 14 clears

[junior cave]

what do those look like again?

I started playin' around Thelema's release I think? A patch or two before Sparkle Collab.
And I kinda just went into just dailies / log in whenever mode for a few months now.
For p2 characters this is all I got.

[spiral raven]

main screen battle/attack challenge tab, then u have abyss and ma next to it

or did u mean prisms

[junior cave]

prisms ye

[junior cave]

I am semi low on most stuff I think, whenever i get a character I just let it auto-lv everything to max lol

I have 4

More specifically:

[spiral raven]

u can salvage p2 stigmatas to get it if u have dupes

[elfin parrot]

!faq source prism

[night parcel]

Source Prism

Hi, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for more information about Prisms such as their sources!

Source Prisms are a very limited resource, so please be very careful not to waste them. They are used to upgrade and craft Part 2 Stigmata (all Part 2 Stigmata are forgeable).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[junior cave]

got 1 dupe to salvage, better than none I guess lol

[spiral raven]

well, probs do wanna do ma to get a few more per week

but in terms of xtals u can ignore it

and as ur pulling for the weaps

u prob get more stigmatas

so more cubes

[junior cave]

[autumn heron]

Who would be better a Lvl 4 Xentinel or a lvl 15 HoH:E in E.R?

[spiral raven]

idk it probs matter little in terms of being able to clear er or not

just use mei to slowly grind lvl at the same time

[autumn heron]

Cause my Badum, who was lvl 14 before couldn't beat the 2nd hardest mode in ER, but Elysia managed to do it quite easily in fact

[junior cave]

How many more BPs will the pink currency last for? I have 27 rn.
I doubt without paying I'll get enough for Songque + weapon (52)
But I kind of wantd to get Origon Mei + weapon (34).
Would I get enough for her? And are her stigmata craftable?

[spiral raven]

does badum have weap, she shouldn't have problems in clearing

but wepless should still be doable

[autumn heron]

Yeah, at 65 too + max stigs and good attributes

[spiral raven]

idk what u did, but u messed up picking signets ig

just follow a guide or something

[autumn heron]

HoH:E has her dkey

[spiral raven]

the pink won't expire

hoo stuff in reserve won't expire

sonk stuff will go away

[spiral raven]

hoo stigs not craftable as of now

[junior cave]

Ok so there's no time constraints for her, but will take awhile to get the orb things.

[spiral raven]

yes

[junior cave]

Oh I also have some of the returnee stuff to get via log ins

and bout 10 tickets for weapon banner via log in too

[pine harbor]

Anyone has a build for Raven on ER?

[half hatch]

The ER guide in the pins should have one under the legacy category

[spiral raven]

https://rentry.org/ElysianRealm/#midnight-absintheabstinence

[pine harbor]

Yeah, I'm trying it but It's not going well.

[spiral raven]

oh how come

r u grouping stuff

[pine harbor]

I can't get past the lion at all.

[spiral raven]

wat signets u got up to that point

[pine harbor]

Maybe it's skill issue, but I die too fast on 2nd phase because the floor is lava and stuff.

[spiral raven]

try getting nexus unlocked

[spiral raven]

oh thats just how the valk is

she dies easily but u should still be Able to clear

[pine harbor]

Vill-V 1 with the enhancements

[spiral raven]

if going vilv 1 don't bother with enhancements

[pine harbor]

Wait not 1, 2

[spiral raven]

try going for more cores than enhancements

can do something like kevin1 and vilv1

wut gears r u using btw

[pine harbor]

Signature, except bow isn't maxed.

[spiral raven]

i would pick any high atk bow in that case then

like hohe old weap

or new weap

[finite barn]

im so baffled by xentinel why does sometimes when i hold atk and then mash atk she does her whole combo but other times she doesnt

[spiral raven]

try tap atk then hold atk

[toxic pike]

When does carnival supply come?

[vernal terrace]

This week on Friday

[primal trail]

can someone send rotation videos for this abyss please

[small salmon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz34R5MCBxY

[lime grail]

Congrats

[last hull]

893 possible mayhaps?

[pale musk]

Is there anything in this run I can better optimize?

[pine harbor]

Awful, at least I got 150 crystals

[last hull]

@lime grail @spiral raven Sry disregard the last thing I got 893 literally like 5 seconds later

[lime grail]

Ayy nice

[last hull]

Why the fuck did the video only load in now

[last hull]

Could you help me w Pistachio cause my score is ABYSMAL

I tried Badum Vita PAWS bruteforce except I had like no clue wtf I was doing

[lament prairie]

I'd probablyyy stick to p1 with griseo idk?? No idea what ur horb/hos are running

[last hull]

I tried both HoS DKey and VQ bur both really sucked

Like below 4Ms suck

[primal trail]

what's the abbreviation for new mei

[formal wigeon]

back in my days, "awful" wasn't 9 minutes, it was 40

[lament prairie]

We used to kill pisacha in like 15s with gearless A vq whats wrong with urs

[lament prairie]

XDC, some people also call her xqc as a joke

[formal wigeon]

xdd

[lament prairie]

[vernal terrace]

Literally asked where people are getting the Q from

Got an answer from that lol

[lament prairie]

The streamer xddd

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-gif-18046692

[elfin parrot]

oh i thought the q was some cn thing until now jfc

[primal trail]

why xqc

[last hull]

My dumbass locked Purana to Ai for Tank
Although idk I guess I just suck ass cause I dont think Purana is the problem

[lament prairie]

Because xqc is a streamer

[wooden wind]

guys, i'm coming back to the game after a fairly long period of absence, how's the meta looking and how cooked is my account? (is there a way i can pull up my valks and loadouts to easily showcase?)

[lament prairie]

I could be totally wrong it could be a language thing but I have assumed its an xqc reference because he's brainless and her gameplay is brainless so they're basically the same

[lament prairie]

Team building revolves around the new astral ring mechanic now, most valks without Astral ring (anything released before 7.3 and didn't get a stellar divine key) is basically irrelevant

[formal wigeon]

I don't think the reasoning went that deep

[lament prairie]

No me neither it was literally just xdc sounds like xqc

[formal wigeon]

"xqc loks like xdc xdd", end of reasoning

[last hull]

Oh wait my problem is that I have like basically no good phys stigs for VQ

Like AT ALL

[lament prairie]

Are u sure?

No dirac or shui?

[last hull]

Wait Dirac works?

[lament prairie]

Dirac MB

[last hull]

No Shui tho

[lament prairie]

iirc

[last hull]

Oh wait that works then

I have aladdin T

[lament prairie]

I forgor I always used shui

[formal wigeon]

if your susan is SSS you can prolly do the one I sent with shit for stigs

[last hull]

It doesnt matter though cause Im a dumbass and I already locked my 6 characters

So now I have to make it work with my P2 team

[formal wigeon]

I can't help you there

[vernal terrace]

[last hull]

Cooked by stupidity

[crystal karma]

me: this mei ER run is taking forever
me afterwards : lets do the ER tutorial, oh she's physical? i was running elemental stuff no wonder it took forever

[wooden wind]

great. i love that for me. so basically, i'm kinda cooked unless i get some sort of wack-ahh team going for new mei battlesuit (i got her on an off-chance, and her weapon + stig came home too on top of the box picker, so i just levelled and pri-armed), and get lunar vow's key from banner?

[last hull]

@formal wigeon @lament prairie I WAS RUNNING THIS SHIT ON MY VQ 💀

[vernal terrace]

TF are the MB stigs for

[last hull]

Cause I didnt realize VQ could use Dirac so that’s the only other decent phys set I had for her 😭

[wooden wind]

i really wish i got lucky enough to pull stellar expression's weapon when she first released, i only got a single one of her stigs and i have no other weapon options for her. i really be out here trying to make a team with SI/VQ/an outdated dps

[vernal terrace]

At least Aladdin is her signature

[narrow cedar]

i dont even know what s2 mei does... what score did you end up getting?

[crude cloak]

3 sec TF on WA, more CDM in SO and restore one Fighting Spirit stack on QTE in ARC

[vernal terrace]

Sounds decent

[narrow cedar]

the qte restoring 1 spirit shortens the rot a bit but requires qte time, so in this cycle maybe not great cause temp so low some people just went qte off and used that time to cast ult for the spirit stack. qte makes p2 slower cause it's just completely not needed there

tf useless in abyss... so just the cdm? lol. maybe s2 is skem this time

let me check na myriad

yeah it might be, this is anecdotal but no S2 mei beat my S0 mei (with scam s2+3 cora and SS Chen)

i think without enough power to upgrade to a completely different rot its a bit locked in

maybe S2 mei had a chance with a different support? like that hle fws setup i saw

[crude cloak]

I don't think you get that much damage to swap out FDD

Maybe with like SSS Chen

[narrow cedar]

yeah... lol maybe s2 cooked

s2 was not cooked in SEA though

their temp is higher so im sure s2 more damage was immensely helpful

[crude cloak]

I don't think it would've helped me though xdd

Eh, maybe it would, but barely

Slightly faster P1 + no need for cleanup after SO in P2 (I was missing like 1/3 of a minibar)

[narrow cedar]

it could be like Thel S2, on release it wasnt that easy for S2 to get ahead of S0

[normal cloak]

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[crude cloak]

Welp, ig I'll get to bust out my S Songque on Benny

Wanna experience the disappointment

Actually

Is she even better than SSS DS damage-wise? xdd

On typeless enemies I mean

[formal wigeon]

probably

as long as you're not phys

worse dmg than Kiana tho for fire/lightning but you get ARi regen

[narrow cedar]

do you still play honky Gurdil

[crude cloak]

My Kia is 3* for now, ig I'll get good mileage out of SQ

[crude cloak]

Unfortunately not

[narrow cedar]

still up to date on honk but youtube so dead

[formal wigeon]

nope, didn't open the game since Vita

[crude cloak]

One day he'll return and show how washed we are

[narrow cedar]

jesus thats insane

quit since vita but still in the loop

[formal wigeon]

nah I'm out for good

[narrow cedar]

true honkai librarian

[crude cloak]

Maybe @strange bear will sponsor a fellow in hardship

[small salmon]

what will we even do on SSS BKE? is this for the lv dkey pullers?

[narrow cedar]

you can use herrscher of thunder, lv no dlc, lv dlc

[small salmon]

i can't run any of these

[formal wigeon]

I'm already on ZZZ/HSR and considering dropping 1 soon because I can't be assed with daily gacha stuff (and already am not logging in to HSR most of the time)

[crude cloak]

He quit even earlier iirc xdd
Returned for a short while and left again

[narrow cedar]

helia is probably good

i think she can handle the hitcount of phase 1 and shes just too strong for this boss dmg wise, boss is old

[formal wigeon]

I dropped for a patch on Sirin, went back for a bit to do dumb teams in RL then dropped again a few weeks after Thel. Popped back for Vita cause cool mech and trio stuff but got bored again after 2 weeks

[crude cloak]

🫡

[small salmon]

yeah, it's a mega old boss. isnt sss bke mech type or is it weak to lightning ?

[formal wigeon]

now I just watch stuff sometimes and be glad I'm not the one that has to do it

[formal wigeon]

mech with lightning hitcount shield on P1

[narrow cedar]

you have to use lightning hits for her shield in phase 1, other than that anything works

[formal wigeon]

and yeah Helia prolly stomps that ignoring type

[crude cloak]

Could maybe cook smth up with Helia support

[small salmon]

Vita dps worth trying?

[formal wigeon]

not like the boss rng on zzz is any better

[crude cloak]

Probs not imo, especially if not S2+

[narrow cedar]

meanwhile me lol
https://youtu.be/fdVR3yKV-pQ?si=eds20t6pKw-qG3fv

[crude cloak]

(cuz no TF on WA at S0)

[crude cloak]

Old Dorm jumpscare

How long did that mf take to max btw

The new system takes like 1-1.5 years

[narrow cedar]

i maxed it when i got Stygian Nymph from a free giveaway in one of the CN annis

[formal wigeon]

possibly never

[narrow cedar]

i think 2.5 years into the game?

what year did we get the SN gift box

[formal wigeon]

I was still missing SS AE up to the dorm rework

[narrow cedar]

oh yeah she was impossible cause not farmable

[crude cloak]

Ewwww, I alr forgot about that

WAIT

Actual question now

Was it Nirv or CDM emblem this cycle

Nirv, right?

[formal wigeon]

for Mei ?

[crude cloak]

Ye

[narrow cedar]

i used nirv, slivered p1 with crit

which was surprising but w/e

[crude cloak]

Well, ig Myriad is technically better than Nirv

+1 CRT

[crude cloak]

That's why I didn't manage to squeeze out 8 more pts trust

[formal wigeon]

btw if you were talking about my youtube I also haven't really found the motivation to put something out on the quality I want

I wanted to do some ZZZ runs but it doesn't feel the same

and it's way bigger so people have already done it all before

[narrow cedar]

yeah i get you, ive been playing endfield and i dunno what to do either

tons of people making vids, tons of people way better than me or doing way more interesting things lol

[formal wigeon]

yeah

[narrow cedar]

in hi3 i started by doing every MA with BKE and thats how i kinda carved a space for myself

[formal wigeon]

my standard for honk was basically runs I really enjoyed or cool/funny shit I haven't seen other people do

like pretty much the last trio run that I'm pretty sure I was the only one with that rot because it was useless with just a little bit more or less dmg (or sonquop)

[crude cloak]

Someone out there copied that ref trust

[formal wigeon]

still a bunch of unlisted stuff tho

[last hull]

Are there any dalaos that specialize in making zaza comps work cause I am in desperate need of help

[formal wigeon]

back in my days

[crude cloak]

This is about MA I assume?

[last hull]

Yesh

I was stupid and I didnt realize VQ could use DiracMB

So I instead used up my other 3 slots of Pisatchio for Badum Vita PAWS LoA team

Except I have no clue wtf Im doing

And this is my abysmal score

[formal wigeon]

throw some qtes and sus-anni loops until it dies

[last hull]

That’s more or less what I did but I think I did a bad job

Is any1 able to help Im so desperate

[autumn heron]

Man, what in this 😭🥀
Badum Kiana who's lvl 14 in ER can't solo corruption for some reason even though I got her best Signets + Nexus Signets and she has her Pri-Arm.
But Xentinel Mei Who's lvl 4 Can..

[crude cloak]

Yeah, that sounds like you either forgot to equip/level up her stigs or your rotation is wrong

Have you checked the ER guide in the pins here?

[autumn heron]

Nope, I've just been going in blind, picking what I think is best, with both of them

Want to see what they use?

[spiral raven]

how do u know if u got her best signets then

[autumn heron]

Because I thought so ;3

• character trials

[open bone]

probably picked the wrong ego signets

each of badums playstyles wants a specific ego signet to start

[autumn heron]

The jump ones?

[open bone]

and then the different strats want different signets from then on

yeah, for instance that one wants the drums signet

and then you go mobi / sakura

it's pretty trivial to clear with if you pick good signets

[autumn heron]

U went for Mobius

[open bone]

for the drums? Yeah, it summons a lot

[quasi pier]

the drums count as summons so you go mobius

[autumn heron]

• I had all Ego Signets except one + Mobius, Griseo, Pardo, Eden and Vill-V Signets and Nexus

[open bone]

well you only need 3 ego signets for any given run

so that's definitely one wasted

and there's zero reason to go villv

and no sakura signets either in there

yeah unsurprising it struggled

broadly for p2 characters they will have 2 arc signets 2 so signets and 1 that works for both

so you only ever grab 3 ego signets

[autumn heron]

For my Xentinel, basically all but one Ego Signet, Vill-V, Kalpas, and Kevin Nexus Signets, + Eden, Pardo and Griseo Signets

[last hull]

I was confused as to why my Helia was so weak in ER

Welp

Would it be wise to spend this on source prisms

[open bone]

probably not

[wooden wind]

i need a bit of help team building in MA as a returnee with... barely any p2 valks (have xentinel with her gear and lunar vow with dkey & her new gear, but that's about it. no other stellar keys). i just want to cobble something workable together even if it's dated, i'm not looking to top the leaderboards, i just need a decent enough score for the rewards

[autumn heron]

Should I send my Badum and Xentinel builds + attributes?

[knotty niche]

Chat who do I use for this weeks MA?

[open bone]

who do you have

show a screenshot of p1 valks

[open bone]

hohe thelema sena on tank, luna horb fdd on pisch

[knotty niche]

Ty

[round arch]

846

[round arch]

https://youtu.be/HUYQZ6gaMcY?si=kJujdTN8wzThn43u

I recorded this shit

[wooden wind]

i just screenshot my whole roster from hoyolab 😭

[flint ruin]

Quick question: Since I just got Mei's new suit, I was taking a look at a few things and picked up a Sin Mal M, but was able to make a Kafka T to go with the other two Kafka's I have on Bronya's Black Nucleus suit. I do have the PRI-ARM (only level 55 there for now, saving to build Mei's new nagiata (they're classifying that as a sword, haha)). So aside from the slightly odd teacup, is the Kafka set a good idea here?

[wooden wind]

it's too late tbh tho, i just decided to feelscraft my way through putting together teams 😭

[flint ruin]

Autocorrect struck again, teacup should be teamup.

[open bone]

Do any of quicksand horb hohe hare starry impression cosmic expression TA senti have gear?

You could do something with SI Quicksand horb on pischacha

and then Xentinel VBM TA on tank probably

unless hohe or horb has dkey

in which case more options

Hohe dps on tank probably also not completely awful

should be able to 850+

or HoT

[wooden wind]

i did SI VQ HORB on first boss and hohe dps (SS and JK), no dkey for horb or hohe atm. i can do xentinel TA but VBM is unleveled (she has stigs but no weapon). i know it'd be jank, but could i slot lunar vow with dkey + new stigs instead?

my problem is no stellar expression stigs or weapon, and no alternative weapon options that don't suck

[open bone]

oh your luna has dkey? she's much better than vbm then

[last hull]

BN in the big 2026

[open bone]

Yeah you can do Luna Mei VBM on Pischacha then

should clear easy

here's a ref for Hohe JK RC on tank https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1FT411e7PC

[last hull]

Don't waste resources on building old valks, ESPECIALLY valks as old and irrelevant as BN

Just focus on building any brand new valks and you will be good to go

[wooden wind]

on- on pischacha? man i already locked valks to the first boss, what would i run for third boss?

[flint ruin]

If it helps anyone, for Mei's new suit I stuck the old level 50 3rd Sacred Relic on her until I get her weapon, seems to work in Elsyian Realm (only have two of her Stigmata cards, added Zorro B until I get her card B).

[open bone]

I mean you could also put them on alien guard it just seems like a waste

when even someone like HoT can 0sec alien guard

What does Hot gear look like, and eden / hotr?

here is one ref but another might be closer to what you actually have

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV18wWZecEYb/?t=360

[last hull]

No signature weapon = no valk, more or less, so try to get her weapon asap

In the meantime there probably ought to be something much better than Zorro

[wooden wind]

hot has 7T + handel TMB, i can put turg TB + PPM on eden with her sig weap, and HoTR has full gear

[last hull]

Does Mei have combo or charged attack?

[open bone]

then this ref might be closer https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1NG411D7gc/

to what you have

but yeah can probably 0sec it with HoT GD Hotr

[wooden wind]

does VBM weapon matter here? i literally have nothing for her besides her stig set, honestly she's not leveled at all and i don't have materials to level her

[open bone]

it matters some but mostly she's just there for the leader skill. You could put cosmic expression third instead I guess

[wooden wind]

i just came back and my account was pretty dry on materials

[open bone]

but yours has no ranks

[wooden wind]

expression doesn't have her weapon or stigs either

so- prolly not a great idea

[open bone]

yeah then you can just stick with vbm. I'll do a quick run with it, see what you should expect to score

[narrow cedar]

hey that's pretty good isn't it? i don't think any s0 was close to that

[last hull]

Is anyone here good w zaza comps cause I need some srs help before reset

I bruteforced Pistachio w Badum Vita PAWS LoA team except I suck and got a really terrible score, I wanna try and improve to get 7% ranking before MA closes for the week

[open bone]

record it

[last hull]

Ok
Have a fun time laughing

[round arch]

S0+2 was tho

[open bone]

just did a run without vbm weapon

37520 was what I got, wasn't very optimized either

could probably get 37700+

[vague scroll]

Who's a good substitute for coralie in new luna team? Oh, and is attack or lightning affix better for new luna.

[last hull]

@open bone This felt really embarrasing to record

Skip to 0:34 cause I realized I forgot to cut the video properly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-YaIckRRns

[open bone]

I think the biggest place you're losing points is in the transition

if you'd used all your shifts in part 1

or in the transiiton itself

you could have done qtes mid transition to do heavenly link with

or done evade malding with badum for more ari

[last hull]

I think the overlying problem is that I still don't really know how to make LoA work

Im just

Spamming shit

And hoping it works

Bruh I hate myself if I didn't save the score with these three I could have just used VQ and be done with it

[open bone]

Do you know how heavenly link works?

[last hull]

Vaguely

[open bone]

okay, so in LOA, there's a mechanic where you can get ARI from qteing out to your supports.

this has a cooldown

but it can really speed up your ari farming

[last hull]

Trigger QTE or special move make other characters do off field dmg+buffs?

Or is that smth else

[wooden wind]

what would the rotation for this team look like? i don't really know how this would play

[open bone]

go vbm, wa wa jump attack wa, get the orange circle with a 3 inside of it. QTE mei, qte Luna, Ult, hold wep. And then either basics to regain SP or what I ended up doing was qteing back to mei, ult, back into luna

when orange circle is almost gone, go back to vbnm jump attack WA

part 1 should be done in <15 seconds on timer, probably significantly less but I didn't much optimize it

and then you do a bit more ari farming in transition, reup your buffs

go out luna ult hold wep, then stellar outburst with her

[open bone]

yep. but it also restores Ari

[last hull]

What's the CD again?

[wooden wind]

y'know, maybe i should find the VBM tutorial, bc i have no idea what WA means 😭 i'm assuming a jump attack is that i press jump and then the basic attack button, but i don't know how this character's combos work or anything

[open bone]

wa is weapon active

hmm it's a bad recording but I can make something

[wooden wind]

okay i'm practicing it in her basic attack tutorial, i'm kinda getting it now

[open bone]

https://youtu.be/ApmEl-aiZPo?si=HSgRTctPntiJ_bTo this is not a good run but maybe still helpful

[wooden wind]

tyty ❤️

[last hull]

Wrong server

[lament prairie]

[magic crater]

Got my servers mixed up

[lament prairie]

It's ok we can let it slide because you're a HoV fan

[last hull]

Dafaq Lyo a nepotist now

/j

[wooden wind]

yeah umm- i'm thinking the lacking materials for real investment is cooking my chances of clearing, the horb team did better than this 😭

[half hatch]

16 seconds and there's also an indicator for that

The one on the top means heavenly link is ready and at the bottom is just a usual qte

[last hull]

OH so that's what that is

[last hull]

16 seconds real time or game time?

[half hatch]

Game time, there was a bug with badum that her heavenly link CD was still counting down during her ult but idk if that's fixed

[last hull]

Btw should I use Songque or Dreamseeker?

Or no real difference here

[half hatch]

Generally if you're using an ele team songque should be slightly better also because of her Ari regen on WA hit but this can change if you're fighting a typeless enemy with SSS DS

[last hull]

Alright

[lament prairie]

I wish they made this more obvious like just copied the outline that early valks like VD had

[last hull]

Ok I still suck at this team so Im gonna just take the L

Me struggling was because of skill issue and knowledge issue on two fronts

Not only not knowing how to use LoA

But ending up in the malding position to begin with because I was too stupid to realize VQ could use Dirac

I have no one to blame but myself

[lament prairie]

Xd

[craggy ivy]

Asking to be sure but is there a 🤏 chance S2 luna myriads or no

[lament prairie]

On SEA?

[craggy ivy]

Yes

[lament prairie]

On GLB you probably would because nobody on this server plays abyss more than 3 attempts but SEA I'm not sure, def not t50

[craggy ivy]

Just checked brack this is myriad or demote brack

[hardy elm]

beside the shallow sequence mei build for elysium

whats hte other build?

[last hull]

Is this our outfit box for the year?

Or was this last year’s I have the recall capacity of an amoeba

[half hatch]

Should be last year we'll get two other outfit boxes this patch

[half hatch]

It's basically just WA -> ba -> ult x 2 and repeat

https://youtu.be/a0FAOA9SEjU?is=kruZDIZ6Y56agvsz

[hardy elm]

the other oen is basically

astral > ult > normal attack 3 times for the combo > ult and so on

[half hatch]

Yeah all of her builds are relatively simple

[hardy elm]

betwee nthe 2 which woudl oy usay is fastest?

[last hull]

OH NICE

There's a lot of outfits that I want from the shop

[edgy pasture]

Help me with this

[fringe sandal]

Slowplay into sweep, all it takes is upgrading your Nyx

[naive shoal]

who should i use for abyss?

luna no gear

[lyric blaze]

who the 2nd best scorer on abyss rn if i have no luna dk and my p1 luna only has her 1/4

[craggy plume]

It was PS last time

I would at least run PAWS support to deal with the hit count parts and a non-type countered dps so would try XDC,PAWS,FDD/HLE

[half hatch]

From my experience badum + ps as a support worker pretty well, you used PS for the bleed application and badum as a DPS because PS is type countered, ideally you'd want fdd in the third slot

Tbh I don't expect this to work really well atp especially since LV + her dkey were pretty accessible because of the free LV

[rough haven]

How's Luna + Pact of companionship(AR weapon) works with Helia paws? Idk I saw it on the ingame recommendations.

[half hatch]

Depends how you mean it, both can support each other since LV is GoI and paws has the symbioses tag and vice versa. In terms of how good they are for each other LV has some decent lightning buff so she's pretty solid for Paws but paws might not be the best LV support and you'd prefer someone else

[rough haven]

And, if lv supports to paws dps?

[half hatch]

The same situation paws is GoI and LV has the symbioses tag, as I've mentioned LV has some good lightning buffs in her kit so she's a solid support for paws

If she's actually BiS depends on the boss

[lyric blaze]

if my luna is ss but is still on p1 gear would she score decently or no?

[spiral raven]

cope rl probs good enough if u got the old team bigseo/simp

[rough haven]

You mean... going Starless team?

[nova root]

what top 3 signets should i prioritize for luna astral ring, cuz the website didnt get an update yet

[faint lichen]

Haiiii, who can i pair up with Xentinel Mei?

[naive shoal]

what valks do u have

[mortal jetty]

Any symbiosis support u have

Badum is highly recommended in mei team

[faint lichen]

Here TwT
Sorry that i don't have much part2 valks, i just came back

Storage problems so i couldn't play Hi3 that well

[open bone]

Vita blast metal

It’s not going to be an amazing trio

But it’ll function

[faint lichen]

[open bone]

You can also use Mei to support senadina dps

If Sena has her weapon

[faint lichen]

Ohh i have her! but idk about the third teammate

[faint lichen]

I don't have it