💁gameplay-help

[fading osprey]

Oh okay

[scenic trellis]

but without fdd cant and i guess my atk is a lot lower also

reuploaded the video with some changes

[half hatch]

Turn off the toggle skill for badums WA so that you don't have to use her fully charged WA after her Qte,

Then maybe you could try to adjust your opener a bit, since the HP threshold is rather low for the first critical value you could try
FWS CA so that it hits the boss once it spawns -> WA -> ult -> hohe Qte WA ult -> hle Qte -> fully charged ult -> WA -> ult and so on

In the transition you can probably keep it around what you're already doing but you could skip HoHe's WAs and just straight up go to HLE just make sure the next spear wave already dropped when she cast her WA so that you collect the shards, then once the spear dropped try to wait a bit with picking up the parts so that HLE's WA timer goes down

Then in p2 i would try to do WA -> charged ult -> SO and pretty much do what you're doing right there, idt that badums enhanced WA is necessarily bad here since hohe is kinda slow and you need that SP + its decent damage

[craggy plume]

We are losing around 10 points on too late WA in the opener. You want to hit the WA before it spawns in if going for that route

[half hatch]

Since you're also lacking damage in SO maybe try to do WA -> WA -> ult on both or the last ult depending on what you need

[fading osprey]

Main story quest of this patch already was?

[scenic trellis]

thanks ❤️

[obtuse lintel]

damn

nah cant get more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r27DvMhxOfs

trying this but just cant get to the last part with 880 points

[open bone]

You’re losing 4 points on the intro timing

And then a bunch more by using immaculate duet with Badum

You just want to tap WA not do the full EWA

You can also try QTE HLE after Badum ult -> go HoHE

That gets you another 75 SP so after you HoHE ult back into HLE you’re ready to hold ult

Without wasting time on basics

In part 2 I think you can also skip the WAs before the first hold ult

Since you’re overkilling anyway

For intro timing see this

997 also possible but harder

Should be another 10 points easy I think

[obtuse lintel]

im just following ref

[open bone]

What ref

[obtuse lintel]

[obtuse lintel]

[vernal terrace]

There's also a ref from Hieu

[vernal bronze]

alright whats this one, @lament prairie its not in the faq from what i see? and im sick of attempting this

[half hatch]

Bottom row second from the left

In the faq

[vernal bronze]

aaaaaaghghghghg

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-no-shake-shake-head-shake-my-head-gif-12270593

[half hatch]

Smh gacha players

[vernal terrace]

[iron mesa]

this legendary boss cycle

It should be homu instead of rita

[vernal bronze]

i dun get it

[iron mesa]

More guys than all the recent story combined.

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/anbZsZE9cX0
https://youtu.be/OuDUNX5OW1M
I tried running my best two teams against this boss. What should I aim for to be safe and what score should I expect from these teams?

[spiral raven]

u just try ur best, and theres no safe score with those teams its just bracket luck

[pale musk]

ok I guess

[gritty juniper]

you should've used songque as an initiator instead of coralie on the kiana run

same with the beginning of phase 2, you shouldn't initiate with coralie instead of somgque

wait i lied the phase 1 was fine with coralie initiation

the phase 2 ehhh

but yeah if you want a higher score for sweat purposes, you could start with better initiations when phase begins but honestly you'll probably be fine

[pale musk]

initiator? Also wydm by initiations?

[gritty juniper]

basically which support you start the cycle with

for phase 2 you should have ABSOLUTELY initiated with songque over coralie

[open bone]

^ all the FDD shift was wasted

[gritty juniper]

also the beginning with kiana was a bit off

when do you do that kind of thing, it's usually downtilt or weapon only so you didn't have to do both + you timed it pretty late

[pale musk]

how's the timing work? also last time I was told to do both but ig I could just do weapon

[gritty juniper]

if you're doing downtilt, you want to time it so only the final hit deals damage the moment paros lands

same logic applies for weapon but you rlly only need to do it, here's the timeframe reference of how late you landed the final tick

the reason why you only need to do one is to trigger ar regen, which you can see that the downtilt triggered the ar regen but the weapon skill did not, meaning ir wasn't really needed

[spiral raven]

looks like u whiffed, if u hit u should get drain

[gritty juniper]

that's the reference of the person i'm offerinb advice to lmao

also i don't use kiana's base skin

[spiral raven]

oh fair, well basically u can get it at 996, i dont know about 997, maybe high frame, but the ca can hit at 996

[gritty juniper]

what i said ^

[pale musk]

So I jump at 997? Or earlier?

[spiral raven]

earlier

basically after second siren ish

[gritty juniper]

the jump doesn't matter, just land the downtilt final hit

[pale musk]

I need to jump to even do the downtilt final hit so I would I assume it would? If I jump too late then I downtilt final hit too late, if I jump too early then I downtilt final hit too early

[gritty juniper]

you're like overthinking, just jump and focus on timing the final hit of downtilt

[pale musk]

I'll follow this, ty

[spiral raven]

u prob dont need to wa since ur badum dps tho. maybe

[gritty juniper]

yep it's like this -weapon because downtilt triggers coralie qte

weapon is usually for triggering qte

[spiral raven]

maybe, but the weap here is to proc the first crystallize and reduce max hp cuz i wont do it anywhere else in p1

[gritty juniper]

i'm not sure about that, coralie and songque qte have enough damage to trigger first crystal

like look at the video the person sent

[spiral raven]

yeah but point is it triggers quicker so it expires out of pink hp sooner

but it might not matter

[gritty juniper]

it really doesn't lmao, coralie and que have enough damage

[spiral raven]

yes they have enough dmg to trigger it, im saying you can get out of pink hp sooner

[gritty juniper]

i'n saying their subdps value kind of overshadows the eztended pink hp value that ur concerned about

it's really not that big of a difference lol

[spiral raven]

xd im saying yes they have a lot of dmg, they can be the one who proc it, im not saying they dont do dmg, im just saying if he does badum wa, and it lets him exit pink hp sooner, and pink hp does expire, and then it lets him cut some moves at the end, then its fine,
but will that be the case, no idea, he has to try

[gritty juniper]

weapon costs legit the same amount of time points than their subdps value clearing the extended pink hp bar

like you said it really doesn't matter

[spiral raven]

yeah ok then, rl dmg ig

[gritty juniper]

lmao

[spiral raven]

ik they are in rl, but i meant like cuz its rl so they basically same time, though if he keeps his old p1 then he kills in pink hp, then it won't matter, but perhaps he can save a shift or something, be slightly slower p1 and faster p2, then it might matter

[dusky mantle]

Gah

[pale palm]

I stop playing the main story the first time I get to control Leylah but why this says 20 days every day,it's like it resets every day

I just do the dailys and log out(and Abyss/MA/ER)

[crude cloak]

Story reason

It's not a timer related to the story event or anything

The timer is part of the story

[pale palm]

it just strange that it resets every day

is it like if i reach certain part of the story will stop resetting

[crude cloak]

Nah

It's just an animation, not an actual timer

[pale palm]

ok

[bleak blade]

how the hell am i supposed to level her up ive been running around the map collecting exp materials and doing side quests for 30 fucking minutes and she is still lvl 3

[craggy plume]

Open world missions

[bleak blade]

if you mean adventure tasks i did those too

[craggy plume]

yes, then just wait for next reset

[bleak blade]

holy fucking shit 12k???? how the hell am i supposed to get that much those quests only give like 1k at max

[open bone]

it happens very slowly

at least its not sakura samsara

that one takes a billion years to max

[cunning gull]

fr

[red plank]

I must have trauma cuz i forgor\

[spiral raven]

nah , we only had sakura for a while

and not like there's any rush

was kinda fun running around picking up mats

and back stabbing everything u see

and hunting elites

[obtuse lintel]

barely

[idle wyvern]

hey so, i just unlocked elysian realm and i'm playing it rn but, am i meant to have this many options from the get-go?

[craggy plume]

Yes

Basically you have one option for each signet which increases drop rate of that signet and one which increases the level of the correct type of signet + a few extra.
In general just go for the one which increases the drop rate of the signet type you want

[idle wyvern]

aight i see, i was just surprised by how i have all of these unlocked already

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/4VQix4m4CEw idk how (forgot to record) but this run gave me 702 at some point. Any way I could improve?

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/Ox4NX2wJBDQ ok I got to it.

[open bone]

The damage numbers on your first ult and combo look really low. Not sure what’s up with that, maybe it’s normal or maybe it’s fws not actually buffing properly

Also in the transition I don’t think there’s any real need to collect the spear pieces early? Timer paused after you break

And it might save you a point if it it lets you kill sooner

Pretty minor tho and I’m not sure it helps

I’m also not sure it was worth it to switch out of paws after SO ended

[vernal terrace]

DMG reduction also when SD goes into that state

[open bone]

Yeah. They look low even when accounting for that but it’s possible that it’s just that I’m not used tot he damage reduction lasting that long

Because HLE

[vernal terrace]

Yeah HLE has a skill where it doesn't last long

[open bone]

Wrt SO I think you could probably get away with another ult in there if you did the Badum EWA while in SO instead of after it

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/iUb1s0L76Rk here's my attempt to follow this stuff. I think using Paws more at the end is less damage but maybe because of other issues.

[pale musk]

I'll try that next

[rare iris]

What's next abyss boss?

[vernal terrace]

Lightning Wolf

[rare iris]

Vitaover

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/m2wz4RzHde8 I need to get to 711 to get to 9th. Is that possible or no? (best time here #💁gameplay-help message )
any way I can improve?

[open bone]

Are you very certain you’re apply buffs with FWS at the start

I just tried this team with no dkeys or emblem active and S0 paws

And I’m doing way more damage at the start

[pale musk]

I’m not. Do I just apply buffs with wep or do I need to use the charged attack as well?

[open bone]

Combo or qte

You could try starting with FDD until wa just as it spawns

Ult, qte Badum, tap wa, then go paws

Or maybe just stick around for a ground CA that you cancel

Not sure which is faster

But either should outscore what you’re doing now

[pale musk]

I’ve been told I can only really pick between wep or charged for time purposes. I could try the other or doing both ig.

[vernal terrace]

WA ground CA swap to FDD do usually rot then qte to PAWS?

[open bone]

Yeah ground CA is nice because the buffs apply early on

So you can cancel it with a switch rather than wait it out

But I think starting with FDD basics so you land the ewa instantly is at least similar time wise

I’ll try both

[pale musk]

Why do I need to evade before doing weapon attack?

[open bone]

Yeah I got within 3 points

[open bone]

Enhanced weapon attack

The one that unlocks ult

Hmm starting FDD lets you QTE paws in at 983

Starting Badum got 82

So should score approx the same

[vernal terrace]

Was testing the team and I para'd him in the air

[pale musk]

I don't have time but I got to 708 with that advice

[open bone]

Glad it helped, sorry it wasn’t enough

[vernal terrace]

Paros is very much a HLE check

[finite barn]

my (rl) bracket has such a tiny score differential... number 1 is 840 and number 10 is 805 o.o

[pale musk]

Honestly if I knew to do ca for the intro earlier I think I would have had a chance. For p2 should I have used fws’S ewa during SO?

[spiral raven]

u use it only for sp, wouldnt mattered if u used it there

[open bone]

I did mention it here #💁gameplay-help message

[pale musk]

I didn’t know how to interpret buffing probably ig

[rapid thorn]

Should I still try for vitas weapon? I have around 20ish pulls, or should I save for next valk

[scarlet pebble]

is the pitty 20 to? dont pull if u cant gurantee pitty(not answering your question,just asking)

[rapid thorn]

No, also I'm not sure if the banner is going to count into normal banner pitty

[vernal terrace]

Ascension pity is different pity

Won't carry over to the regular banners

[rapid thorn]

I see

[foggy vapor]

are both dreamseeker chips available yet?

[craggy plume]

Yes you can get them to SSS now

[rigid cedar]

!faq dreamseeker

[night parcel]

Dreamseeker Op

Dreamseeker (DS) — Overview

Dreamseeker is your default AstralOP and works equally well with all Ring types, making it a solid F2P choice; premium AstralOPs usually give bonuses for specific Ring specializations, so if you are not a Nirvana player or don’t have one tailored to your Ring type, Dreamseeker is often the better pick. Before spending Crystals or money, check !faq gachaop — and if you’re unsure, ask a St. Freya Professor for guidance.

Ranks & Effects

S-Rank: Starts with 50 ARI, grants +12% TDM, and enemies take +3% TDT during SO.
SS-Rank: Enemies now take +7% TDT during SO.
**SSS-Rank: **Typeless enemies take +5% TDT (mislabeled as “Non-elemental”), and your on-field Valkyrie restores 10 SP when SO triggers.

**Origin Chips: **unlocked by completing Part 2 — Ch.4 & Ch.10.

Name & Avatar Change (F/M)

You can change Dreamseeker’s name and avatar in Part 2 — Ch.1–3 “Tides of Times Gone By” (see [!faq cof](#👶beginner-help message)). Head to Antares Building → Dreamseeker’s Apartment → Smart Mirror — changes have a 4h cooldown.
Changes only apply in Ch.1–3, affecting appearance, voice, and dialogue.

Female DS becomes the default in the later chapters (Chapter 4 onwards).
Male DS can be used in other modes only while Ch.1–3 are the active Part 2 Chapters.

Returning to Ch.1–3 restores Male DS, but progressing forward reselects Female DS again.
Post-Ch.3 name changes can be done at Hyperion 11 → Work Bench.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[rigid cedar]

so yeah here's where to get the chips

and a lot of more infos

[digital root]

Hello, maybe a silly question but when using a bleed dps is it better to use an emblem that increases their elemental dmg type or just total dmg?

[half hatch]

there's only one elemental bleed dmg dealer ( Lunar vow) and i don't really know of any significant lightning dmg emblem for here but i'm not too deep into emblem mald, for phys bleed DPSs i'm also can't think of a decent phys dmg emblem
most of the time just going with the RL/nirvana emblem is enough and very rarely get beaten by others, though if you're not highly competitive you often won't really notice a difference

[digital root]

Eh, fair enough really, I forgot phys isn't elemental mb, thanks still

Also, both Aponia and Vill-V are becoming farmeable next patch, is there any info on how much are their characters cards yet?

My guess is 640 of both ancient willpower/legacy but idk

[digital sky]

640 AL or 1120 AW
Wt valks like JK or Sirin got 640 AL 640 AW (or 480 of each on release)

[digital root]

Hope it's the mix cuz I've got a lot of both mats

Thanks

[digital sky]

Yeah no it wont be the mix

Its only for wt valks
Like valks made for wt
Not valks added later
Atleast as long as its been out

[digital root]

Well damn rip my mats

[vernal terrace]

Who to use against Sampo and Aka?
MsEs HLE Thelema probably my only team for Kevin

[obtuse lintel]

Can try Helia - PS - Badum

for Sampo

or HoHe instead of PS

[vernal terrace]

My HoHe doesn't have her DKey

[obtuse lintel]

PS then

[vernal terrace]

So don't have much of a choice but to use FDD on Aka?

[obtuse lintel]

this is 1st place on Aka

WHAT

how is the rot on that 😭

[vernal terrace]

[obtuse lintel]

i cant

[spiral raven]

there's a million ways to get 946

and hle probs not right unless s2 but no idea

show what u got tho

if u old enough u can try p1 strats with hot for example

or senti or trio or hofs or lv or kira or dw or bke

or mobius or spa or apo idk a bunch more i cant rmb

[spiral raven]

so what u got

[open bone]

Maybe Horb can get you a 0sec tho

[vernal terrace]

Depends since Aka is bio

[open bone]

Could try Horb leader into vbm buffs into FDD

But I can’t test it for you

Since no horb

Could also do Badum FDD VBM for a 0sec but I would guess moving Badum off sampo loses more points than it saves

[vernal terrace]

Yeah

Though I did try HoRb on samp on with PAWS and PS

I got 0sec with HoRb

[open bone]

there you go

[vernal terrace]

My first 0sec

[open bone]

congrats

im proud of you

[vernal terrace]

HoRb WA slowed the time a bit before switching to VBm then FDD

[open bone]

I expect to see you in top 100 this week riley

[vernal terrace]

We’ll see

[open bone]

how are you scoring 66 points worse on sampo than me with SS chen

[vernal terrace]

Me forgor HoS had PS' weapon

[open bone]

...

[elfin parrot]

it keeps happening

[open bone]

[vernal terrace]

Saying that but you have less than me on Kevin

[open bone]

yeah ran out of tries

tho thelema never comes on field in my rot

so our runs arent actually very different

I'm currently the exact same score as you in my training mode

[vernal terrace]

I did Thel start but only with the evade

[open bone]

I start hle jump wa ult, finish p1 around 57

and then evade malding in the middle kills me

and I lose the rest of my points waiting for SO to refill

[vernal terrace]

Was gonna ask if you did 2 SO but likely DS' lower initial ARI

[spiral raven]

eva weap can get you to areas normally where u cant go btw

[vernal terrace]

She can go out of bounds?

[spiral raven]

the very start is better with rita if whatever u cooked up lines up for it

eva weap eva gets u +6 ari

afterwards killing kevin spamming atk lets u steal 1 ari sometimes, then 4 dashes u can do, depending on who u were on

he atks twice quickly, then a thrust and a big jump

depends on ur swap cd but usually u can let one person eat the first two

then rita can be swapped in and eat thurst and the following atj

when ice rain comes down u can at least get 2 dodges sometimes 3

and another 2~4 evas

then when he pushes u back

eva weap to middle or empty area
though before eva weap usually theres two more evas u can do close to you

in general theres a patch of ground where meteor constantly falls there

though if u don't see it, its still possible to just eva weap your way to reach the meteors

[spiral raven]

kinda in the sense that normally theres an air wall that blocks u

eva weap bypass it

[vernal terrace]

[spiral raven]

can get roughly 55+ maybe 60 ari or so not sure on cap cuz for the sake of the 1s run, u only need 170 comfy or 169, so u have excess

[spiral raven]

when i tried it its been left most of the time for me

[open bone]

thanks for the whole list, was very helpful

got up to 47776 in testing

so +50 pts

[spiral raven]

pro

[vernal terrace]

I have 772

[modern yew]

So im planning to do like, ps/jds/??? For kekvin and paws/hle/??? For sampo, which team should use fws and what should the other team use(i dont have ME, FDD, TFM, RS)

Also hoo/hofi/simp can be used if thats better, hoo with sig wp zhen tb shrod m, simp missing wp

[spiral raven]

well what do u have that can slot in the team

if u use fws in either team

[modern yew]

Everyone else besides me fdd tfm and rs

But its really just, vita/hohe

[spiral raven]

ps jds fws s teri is 47760
paws hle fws s chenxue is 39880

then give paws hohe

[modern yew]

I have ss chen and ss teri

[spiral raven]

and give ps fws

[modern yew]

Ok thenks

[foggy vapor]

is it worth pulling for LPF on Ascension supply?

[cunning gull]

no

[quasi pier]

ascension isn't worth pulling in general, pity doesn't carry over so if you can't get her, you just waste your pulls

vita isn't worth pulling for anymore either

[foggy vapor]

gotcha i was considering it for her support value but i wont then!

[willow herald]

If you already have Vita it's prolly just better to wait till she shows up in BP to SS her anyway

[obtuse lintel]

whats the optimale rot for Rita in ER?

AR build

[obtuse lintel]

im getting the rot worng or what? no way im needing two ARs to beat Elysia

[craggy plume]

With lite on finality you should be looking at 2 minutes something in my experience

Signets seem fine to me even if I probably would rather go Apo over Hua. what core signets are you getting

[south umbra]

Should i pull for vita or wait for a love elf rerun?

[open bone]

neither is advised for meta but hle rerun is the better one

[crude cloak]

Definitely not Vita, she can't support GoI

[open bone]

Vita is basically dead and HLE is just a bit suboptimal to pull

[crude cloak]

||And 8.7 is 2 GoI valks||

[south umbra]

aight aight

[stiff wigeon]

Can anyone help me with the current abyss? I don’t have kiana so im using sss coralie but my point are only 700ish while others are around 740-750 does anyone have any tips as to why im dealing so less damage and is there a video to help combat this?

[spiral raven]

maybe post a vid or have a look at what others r doing to get an idea of loosely what can be done

[craggy plume]

BFD, VBm should be pretty close to HoFi performance wise, so that should not be the problem if you don't have two RoO valks your damage is going to tank and you are probably better of using another Lighting valk and yes video would help a lot.

[regal plume]

Does arment ascension pity carry over to the next?

[round arch]

No

[regal plume]

So if I spend 20 pull on vita weapon it resets to 60 on the next one?

[dusty dagger]

Yes

[regal plume]

Good to know ty

[lyric blaze]

are rita + vita the only banners this patch?

[cunning gull]

no, the rest in pins

the image should be updated if u click the link

theres a ps rerun

[foggy vapor]

who would be better this Abyss cycle? PAWS, FDD, and FWS. Or ME, HLE, and HoHE

[cunning gull]

non have any specific adventage against the boss but if the ME team cant be altered then i would try paws for the most part

[half hatch]

I've got better results with paws/fdd/FWS this cycle and yeah hohe isn't the greatest WoD support

[foggy vapor]

yeah they are the only WoD triggers i have for ME

[obtuse lintel]

[fair dock]

i don't have vita so i'm coping, what do you guys think is the best team for rita here? i'm thinking RS for the shield. but what about the remaining one.

[obtuse lintel]

rita hle sena?

[craggy plume]

PAWS,FDD,HLE probably.
Note that RS doesn't give any shieldbreak in WoD

[fair dock]

oh. that's new to me. thanks

i already did PAWS, RS, BFD and only did 662 which i can improve a little bit. but i'm just trying other choices

[obtuse lintel]

is there any new rot for this team?

[craggy plume]

MPS is a shieldbreak support for WoD if you need shieldbreak

There is no rotation changes that I know of and that setup can definitely do better particularly with S2 LP.
I lost 20 points when I ran them instead of FDD

[obtuse lintel]

im cooked ig

[obtuse lintel]

im getting ranked down for tomorrow

[craggy plume]

Show recording

[half hatch]

what rank is your chenxue

[fair dock]

S only

just got back from trying Rita. it's hard because you need to do evasions unlike PAWS.

[obtuse lintel]

[fair dock]

yeah. i actually used her in my run

[obtuse lintel]

idk how did that get me 20 extra points

two extra

3

[craggy plume]

You should be doing full WA Charged ATK sequence with LP before SO in second phase so that you can get the shield down and lose less damage from shield damage reduction.

[half hatch]

do wa -> cancle it with ult -> wa on vbm
why are you always doing your full BA sequence after your first BA2 skip, you should be doing them as often as you can
also use your ult to cancle BA2
the WA on hofi at the begining of p2 does not really have ony use you could just enter SO as soon as his shield is up
i'm pretty sure that you didnt actually debuff the wolf in p2 with coralies a serious breakdown just because he dashed away from it

or you can just do a normal sequence at the begining of p2 yeah, though i'm not quite sure if the shield even provides dmg reduction since it only says phys in the description

[obtuse lintel]

so

[fair dock]

hopefully, i can still survive tomorrow. 662 is my max with PAWS

[obtuse lintel]

[obtuse lintel]

like

ba2 > jump > ba2 > jump > ba2 > jump ?

one extra point

[half hatch]

yeah, your jump height is capped at some point so also make sure to use your ult for the ba2 cancels when you can

[obtuse lintel]

[obtuse lintel]

beggining part like this?

or should i turn off cora qte?

wait that was not qte

[obtuse lintel]

Ill stop here ig

[obtuse lintel]

tysm btw

[foggy vapor]

Why is it recommended to turn off BM's qte?

[obtuse lintel]

Some times you want to disable that for some valks since it takes time

Thats pretty much it, some valks just need to enter, do what they do and switch, and QTE makes that longer, and since time is gold here, sometimes you kinda need to disable some QTE's to make things faster

[craggy plume]

Because the sequence it goes into isn't the fastest way to do her support rotation so doing her QTE forces you to spend more time on her.

[elfin parrot]

in addition to animation times you don't need, another thing that isn't mentioned is that generally QTEs cause the valk swapping out to incur additional swap cooldown. This doesn't always matter but it can depending on the scenario

At the end of the day QTE toggles are situational and you just need to know the benefits and tradeoffs you're getting from them

[urban panther]

are any of these relevant

if not which one will get me the best divine key benefits ig

also does this mean the training area?

please bruh anything else

[cunning gull]

all of them are in reserve shop
the best thing would be the reroll device when you need it
otherwise you can pick any divine key (note that fenghuang down and abyss flower need their counterparts to give atk so prioritise those last)

seeing that you're a beginner i would just suggest keeping the box as you don't need it right now

[cunning gull]

the daily thing iirc
if you dislike the event you can have a distraction and come back to the event when its next round

there's also the skip button at the top left

[urban panther]

ts takes 10 minutes per round even with the skip button

i swear there was an event very similar to this before as well

[cunning gull]

the 8.1 one

but yeah i just use a distraction while doing the event

[visual quest]

question, how do u use hofi in the vita fdd hofi team? should she have qte on/off?

[cunning gull]

weap and swap
qte off

during the transition you can build up her meter (if ever needed) by parry andrius

for the most part you don't need to do this though

[visual quest]

ahh then can ari

yea to get ari, cora seems more consistent

[cunning gull]

ari from her combos
it takes long

[visual quest]

do vita ranks determine her best team?

[cunning gull]

coralie + vita is enough ari for one SO rotation

[visual quest]

like, would s2 vita lean more hofi vs cora, or something like that?

i guess its usually dependant more on bosses?

[cunning gull]

do you mean team?

[visual quest]

yeah

[cunning gull]

any variation works
it is boss dependant and dmg dependant

ideally she uses fdd if you have her

[visual quest]

yea i have s1 hofi vs sss cora i think that would mean usually cora > hofi most of the time

[cunning gull]

ranks dont matter on hofi
its all for her personal buff + one for mei

[visual quest]

neat didnt know that

oh right generally how would u play ss2 vita differently from s0 vita?

[cunning gull]

same for hoh, its for personal buff
the one that would stand out would be horb but tbh it still doesn't matter that much

[cunning gull]

hmm im not sure, i only play s0 vita

[urban panther]

what do reroll devices actually do

let you pick rolls on stigmata?

[jade zephyr]

Would using vbm or bfd be better to support ME for andrius

[open bone]

Rita HLE thelema

if hofi had dkey you could also do fdd hofi vbm but it looks like you dont

[jade zephyr]

Yeah she doesnt
I was using them so okay good. just feels bad since hes immune to ice dmg lol

[open bone]

yeah it's rough but better buffs are worth it

[cunning gull]

its ok ME isur dps anyways

[scenic trellis]

any advice for abyss? i dont have vita

[spiral raven]

play paws

[scenic trellis]

what about rita ?couldnt she work?

[spiral raven]

she can too

[spiral raven]

paws does better tho btw

[scenic trellis]

gonna try with her

[scenic trellis]

paws rita and the third? ps or sparkle?

[spiral raven]

u dont have paws

rita lead it is

[scenic trellis]

omg i kept reading fws cause of the fire buff

[spiral raven]

its lightning buff this cycle

[scenic trellis]

the thing is as supp can only take sena and ice supp

[spiral raven]

can take songque, but they probs dont contribute much dmg anyways, so its fine

[half hatch]

hle sena is her best team most of the time anyway

and HLE dmg is meh so

[scenic trellis]

alright

gonna try it

yeah not gonna even retry it gonna accept the -100 this cycle

everyone in my bracket has the bis team

[half hatch]

what's t10's score

?

[scenic trellis]

612 the lowest

but still have 7 more pll to play xD

[half hatch]

that sounds doable, i got like ~700 with me/hle/vita

sena should prob get a bit more do to her not needing to be on field

though my atk is also pretty high

[scenic trellis]

i need to work on my stigmas they are all meh

dk not gonna do for now cause only missing 2 im waiting to see which one comes in the next box

before buying from the bp reserve

[half hatch]

i could try a run and just not use vita at old to brick my dmg and kinda replicate sena

i assume you only have DS ?

[scenic trellis]

yeah

[half hatch]

okay the dmg is a bit too bricked without vita buff in p1 lmao, i can still give you a general idea ig
hle wa so that it hits the boss as soon as it spawns -> ult -> me qte -> do her ARC stuff until you enter surplus state -> tap the phantom etc.
whether or not you wanna do a really short SO in p1 depends on your dmg
then at the start of p2 it depends if you did an SO in p1
either hle wa -> ult -> me stuff or just SO

the boss itself does not really have any special mechanic or smth similair so it's just a really basic brute force fight

[tame swift]

team recommendation? Vita doesnt have her sig (yet) so I cannot use her on andrius.

or maybe brute force with sena weapon but idk if thats possible with a good score

[scenic trellis]

thanks

[cunning gull]

since no weap on vita u can either do MsE dps or paws dps (if either got weapon)

[tame swift]

vita is the only one weaponless so yeah, i guess ill try that

but i cannot go above 620 points 🥲 guess ill just pass

[half hatch]

hm that sounds weird tbh, i could get liek 700+ with paws, given i have fdd but still

also maybe try hle instead of Horb, even though he's ice immun as far as i'm concerned horb really isnt that great of an GoI support

i could give paws/hle/fws a try if you want

[craggy plume]

How are you on dkeys/dorm level?

[tame swift]

dorm is max lvl i also got plenty of dkeys, valks have over 1420 atk

i just have a skill issue i guess

[half hatch]

vita might also be an option, wyverein did some testing back then and according to him it's ~25% diff

still huge ofc but maybe you can cook something with that

[half hatch]

i hope the video works for you discord has a history with my uploads that it just won't work

and streamable does not embed anymore for some reason

wait that was the wrong one gimme a sec

just skip to 0.30 the runs before that were some fails lmao

my hle WA didnt hit

[tame swift]

Ooo I'll try it!!

[mortal jetty]

Why didn't u reapply the buff after the ice pillar and started SO after helia full combo sequence

You could squeeze some damage in p1 too after ely ult by qteing with helia before badum so that you could avoid those billion basic

[half hatch]

the run is intended to have some room for damage so they'd probably just do the CA instead of the basics, for SO it just worked better for me this way

[mortal jetty]

Nah no way ... I am pretty sure you could optimise that part

[half hatch]

the run isnt perfect by all means yeah it was just to give them a general idea, i didnt really have the time to minmax the ref

[mortal jetty]

Good job prof

[half hatch]

thx super prof

[obtuse lintel]

DAMN

From #2 to #11 😭

[flat vessel]

Sampo timings are so ass

[plucky gust]

hmmm, lantern SS doesn't suck, right? lantern generally sucks only at S rank, right?

[crude cloak]

Lantern sucks in general nowadays

If it was 7.6 you'd be right

[crude cloak]

Outside of Lantern DPS cycles ofc

And Fire Kosma iirc?

[plucky gust]

i have TFM now so yea. . . pretty sure fire kosma is badum boss, no?

[crude cloak]

Kosma is a QUA boss

Lemme check what was used last time

[vernal terrace]

Sparkle Vita HoRb I believe
Or Sparkle Vita Badum.

[crude cloak]

Ye, you're right, it was Badum support

[vernal terrace]

I remember Sparkle Badum HoFi one time too

[crude cloak]

At high ranks it was Sparkle Badum Lantern too

[vernal terrace]

Ah I see

[crude cloak]

You'll probably need even higher ranks than before cuz of higher dist

[vernal terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/senadina-sena-hi3-honkai-impact-3rd-agree-gif-1681523563793255511

We're slowly approaching 520+

RL anyways
Nirv getting close to 560

[lime grail]

omg senadina

[normal cloak]

Exalted MA Refs for 01/27/2026 - 02/01/2026 [Invite Link Here if channels are unknown](#💁gameplay-help message)
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[rare iris]

Sea nirv d dropped?

[vernal terrace]

Talking about NA/EU
SEA probably already 560

[rare iris]

Ah no that was also a question kekw, saw it's 562 last cycle

[vernal terrace]

[rare iris]

Can't check it myself, since most scores were pretty low on wolf

[spiral raven]

+1

[rare iris]

We ascending

[spiral raven]

to the hell

[vernal terrace]

Dist sheet says 561 for wolf

[spiral raven]

either 561 or 562

but probs 561

spreadsheets r usually harder to go wrong

[vernal terrace]

It was 562

[spiral raven]

k

somebody didnt pay attention

[vernal terrace]

Trying to get NA Nirv dist now

[rare iris]

When is lightning bull?

[vernal terrace]

February 2nd

Week 5

[rare iris]

Oh preview in pin wasn't updated lmao

Nvm I just visited the site

[vernal terrace]

Yeah embedded hasn't been updated so I just check #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins

[elfin parrot]

https://i.imgur.com/DV8CQA7.png 556 NA Nirv @cyan surge

[vernal terrace]

Thanks Sai

[plucky swan]

NA RL 517

[plucky swan]

EU A2 446

[obtuse lintel]

what

are we reporting our abyss d?

[elfin parrot]

you can find the sheet of collected dist in the pins

[cunning gull]

oh yeah forgot to reply but both have been noted

[mint plover]

556 eu nirv

[cunning gull]

noted

need eu rl dist... for last cycle and this cycle...

[vernal terrace]

For some reason the most difficult to find currently

[cunning gull]

lmao even we get na nirv at a decent rate now 😭

should i demote/j

[vernal terrace]

[craggy plume]

This cycle EU RL is 516

[vernal terrace]

Ty!

Don't know why it was the most rare to get

[shell quail]

yk it's cooked when SEA A3 is 498D

[vernal terrace]

[mint plover]

Ill send you a rl for this one later

Ah well, you alr got it

[cunning gull]

yuh, thx anyways
might need in the future

[indigo crown]

is coralie vita love elf > coralie vita hofi?

[craggy plume]

If Coralie is fate defying dragon then no, you never want to run HLE with her

[indigo crown]

yea dragon coralie
so its preferred to use vita hofi till i get paws?

[craggy plume]

yes you want two of PAWS, LP, HoFi, VBm and don't want to touch anything else

[cunning gull]

just to make sure, hofi got waxing moon?

[indigo crown]

ofc she does 😭

[cunning gull]

good to know then hofi vita yeah

[indigo crown]

wait omg who do i use for the boss stage i didnt pull rita 😨

[cunning gull]

show who u have

[steady osprey]

img > wheelchair of destiny

[indigo crown]

js a sec ill finish the ice stage and get back to it

[cunning gull]

alr

[indigo crown]

alr here you go

i also have hotr 4/4 and HoO (for reasons i will not say how terrible my HoO is buit its so terrible im using turg TB on her lmaooo)

[indigo crown]

4/4 HoRb too

[cunning gull]

hmm if hoo build is bad then do rs dps
rs fdd jds maybe
can also do thel dps (mps, dsa, hle) or hoh dps but ehhh idk about this (hoh, mps, hle/dsa)

i would start with rs first

[indigo crown]

alright omw

[cunning gull]

can also do rs lp jds for weather effect but vita is iffy with rs (and slow in general)

ofc i assume the leaders i mentioned are 4/4 and are properly affixed

[indigo crown]

yes theyre all 4/4 and ive optimized their builds

[visual quest]

just noticed the abyss calendar isnt showing the up to date cn team ranking anymore

[lime grail]

is this still the best rs team without me

[steady osprey]

switch badum with dracolie

[lime grail]

ok

[onyx swallow]

Does anyone have a refrence for hle dps for abyss

Currently have this
With 4/4 s2 hle
Weaponless paws
And vbm

Will try to record a run as soon as I can

[open bone]

What abyss tier

[keen void]

How do you guys know which character is best to use in Abyss? I understand the environmental info has a play in it but what about boss wise?

[open bone]

You look at the weather and look at the boss’s resistances and their type and mix and match. And then for some bosses you further look at gimmicks

For instance, if it’s a fire weather you’d look at your fire dps, and then if you check and the enemy is quantum, and there’s only one fire quantum battlesuit so you usually either run sparkle dps or Badum Sparkle FDD

Sometimes it’s more complicated than that but it’s a good first approach

(For instance, on some bosses multiple teams can score similarly well and which is best depends on who you have and what Ops and what ranks)

(Or on others you have no good options and so you need to test different copes yourself to see which works)

You can also look at the boss schedule pin in gameplay help channel (here!) and see what top scored CN myriad, which is not always a sign of what’s best in other servers or in RL but it’s usually a good starting place

[keen void]

Thanks for the info! Tbh i forget that there are elements when thinking of battlesuit types lol

[open bone]

No problem! And yeah if you’re ever stuck on a specific case you can come here and ask for help but most of the time it’s entirely possible to figure out from just looking at a boss and going “okay, world star weather so world star dps… and this boss resists lightning fire and ice a lot, guess I’m using physical WS which means horb”

Between weather and type counter and resistances you can usually get a good sense of who is shilled

(Resist is important because, just to give one example, they used to run type counter andrius a bunch for Vita, which you might think would also be solid to use Thelema who can also type counter but Andrius is ice immune so you’d do zero damage)

[keen void]

If i could go on a bit of a tangent, are affixes worth doing? ive been playing for a while but never messed with the systm so i have tons of those crstal cores

[open bone]

Affixes are way less important than having the proper battlesuit and team for them, but they’re a decent performance buff if you do

[keen void]

Good to know

[open bone]

Maybe about a 10% damage buff between no affixes and maxed affixes? Less if you have a lot of dkeys

Basically unless you’re in RL+ you don’t need to care much but it could save a marginal run

You can also try affixing cheaply instead of going serious on it, getting 1 okay line per stig or two bad lines is like 40% as good as maxing them and 5% of the cost

[elfin parrot]

just be mindful affixes are potentially an endless sink because it's all rng what you roll at the end of the day

so you may need an infinite amount later on by the time you can really appreciate them

meanwhile early on, a small boost as QT said isn't going to save you if everyone else just has much better teams and gear than you do are are scoring way beyond you

personally because of all this, i recommend you leave it alone unless you feel the small boost can possible achieve meaningful results for a specific on-hand situation

but spending a bit for a small boost is still fair if that's what you prefer despite what i say

!faq affix

[night parcel]

Everything you need to know about Affixes

Hello, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the in-depth Affixing guide!

Overall, you should only affix Best-in-Slot Stigmata and generally aim to get as much Atk as possible on your DPS Valkyries first. Ensure that the Battlesuit/Weapon Type matches what the Affix line demands otherwise the Atk will not apply.

Remember only Physical Damage can crit, and "crit ratios" do not apply to Honkai Impact 3rd.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[jade zephyr]

Who should I use for fdd dps?

[open bone]

FDD VBM and then some cope third, you don’t have a good third option

Ideally you would want paws or LP or hofi but you have none of those

So any astral ring valk with good gear and fast buffing can work

Also option depending on boss and abyss would be HLE dps with FdD and HoHE supp if you just need like ignite mechanics but most FdD bosses are bad for HLE anyway

[jade zephyr]

Okay, thank you.
does Rita have better buffs for wod team over hle?

[open bone]

Usually yes, surplus is really good, but HLE’s buffs are also excellent

Plus for eg HoHE shill HLE can supply freeze

[jade zephyr]

Is hle better for freeze than thel?

[open bone]

Well sometimes you run both

But yes if you don’t need the evade malding (say SSS sera) you might run HoHE Rita HLE, and if you do you’d swap one of them for Thelema

[jade zephyr]

Ohhh okay okay, makes sense. thank you very much

[onyx swallow]

A2

[spiral raven]

for sake of purely freezing they both do good, u have extra stuff to consider

thel much faster

hle bit more buffs

but hle has sus ani on weap

sus ani on some bosses drags certain animations out

which means certain moves that you need boss to do

comes out slower and lose time

freezing itself is easier with hle though

thel also only freezes when she has the stacks up

sometimes u don't have those stacks up

[spiral raven]

sometimes in wod support hle is less preferred for this reason tho

[steady osprey]

freezing also slow moves

[onyx swallow]

https://youtu.be/UWjvm2_Bnkk?si=HHFYQAn30_Vc5pkD

Score is a bit lower coz of few accidents like
2:04 hle ult, I used it without having enough sp for full charge
2:38 paws ult, there wasn't any need for that

Other times i used paws ult for faster SO

[spiral raven]

indeed

[steady osprey]

can improve at 2.27. wasted hle wa and then got ur ass beaten by laser

[open bone]

Okay so on checking I absolutely cannot make you a ref because the damage gap between S2 HLE in A2 and S0 in RL is enormous but I recorded an intro if you want to steal some ideas

Not sure if it’s faster for your boss given damage diff

Ignore the second to last ult there

I was supposed to either hold it out and do faster or skip it to WA ult before SO and ended up doing neither

[onyx swallow]

Thx for trying to do one

[onyx swallow]

I'll give it a try

Also I need to be better at applying vbm buff
I take way too long, I'll try to do what you did in the vid, to hopefully get a faster clear

[onyx swallow]

[twilit summit]

I don’t have PS sig

Will that make a big difference in this Arena rotation on middle boss?

[spiral raven]

yes

[twilit summit]

I figured. I’ll try something else

[spiral raven]

what else you have

show box (characters u own)

[twilit summit]

I have everyone but PAWS, Badum, and LV

[spiral raven]

oh

so sparkle lantern horb

[twilit summit]

Looks like

[spiral raven]

can 2s pretty easily

[spiral raven]

wait

hold on im confused with some other bosses

ehh marut and warden right

so warden hold on let me see

i confused some other bosses ignore what i said

[round arch]

cant the fps be any lower ?

[twilit summit]

I mean that team doesn’t conflict with what I’m using on Marut. I was planning on ME, HLE, Sena on that one

[spiral raven]

so maybe rs fdd songque

rs songque hohe

[twilit summit]

[spiral raven]

im not sure about the fdd version cuz i never ran it, but u can do rs songque hohe, the 6 second version needs s2 rs, but you can prob just add extra atks with songque ca or something for a 7s possibly

[twilit summit]

That is true. Okay thank you. I do it in the morning before work.

[spiral raven]

you basically have to cook tho, no paws/badum and ps weapless is kinda annoying cuz they really good for ma lol

[spiral raven]

do you have aops btw

like teri aop

[twilit summit]

Yes

[twilit summit]

I took a slight break at the worst time lol

[spiral raven]

algs
id experiment with rs songque + x
whats teri rank

if i have time i can try something

[boreal eagle]

can someone explain what buttons hes pressing to full the bar ?

[onyx swallow]

I tried 😭
My phone really doesn't wanna record
The game was smoother in comparison

[unique shore]

You mean the first half of the poise bar ? Then its dodge into weapon skill. It only restores Poise if it kills a target i think

[spiral raven]

eva weap eva weap aa spam wa
first eva weap to deal with sliver, second eva weap to execute, then aa spam wa to fill the rest

[spiral raven]

yes

[boreal eagle]

ah it kills the core i see

[steady osprey]

do i need to eva before weap

[half hatch]

yes, you can't trigger WA without it

you replicate the eva for a hit that can execute, doesnt need to be ultimate evasion or smth just eva

[cunning gull]

anyone got tips or can help with what should i do this abyss? (nirvana)
MsE HLE DsA 4/4 S0 but i only have 3* kia elf and SSS DS...
ofc i couldnt find a rot with my aop/elf
the best thing i could find is this https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1xFvsBAEG9/?share_source=copy_web
its sq aop but i dont have an alternative, should i just rely on it?

[open bone]

Their first SO waits a bit before firing it off

So you might be fine

[cunning gull]

im more worries about phase 2
because thats usually where i get out of sync

[half hatch]

I can't really have a look at it rn but is this SS or S SQ, you might be able to slightly follow a S SQ ref but SS has like 24 more Ari regen than SSS DS/kia elf so you're a bit cooked on that part

Generally you'll always be 2-4 Ari behind if you're doing 2 SO but that's a marginal amount that you can play around

[cunning gull]

its s fortunately and alrr

[spiral raven]

what about it u go out of sync

[spiral raven]

also r u matching his dmg or

if ur matching his dmg then probs wanna skip the combo before ring

[gritty aurora]

https://youtu.be/NoOok3wAqOg
Copy this rot and myriad slot is yours 🌹

[spiral raven]

see if that still lets combo in ring execute p1

[cunning gull]

oh okay

[spiral raven]

when he ults before SO in p2, do ult in SO instead

and then ig mald for better pattern on the atk/something with the evades so you can phantom sooner

[spiral raven]

see if after qte in with rita, do eva weap before combo, or take out one of the eva weaps

so that when you are wa spam, it lines up with the boss atking you for ari
in the vid he was going to reset but ig he got too tired or something
his phantom wasnt within sena buff

otherwise looks fine overall

he looks like did an extra eva weap at the end with his dmg, probs was still figuring out the threshold

but yeah if ur dmg matches his, u dont need to do the eva weap

[cunning gull]

alrr

[spiral raven]

ig its fine to ult outside of SO if you ended up having more dmg and want to execute sooner

then it makes sense to ult earlier so you're not gated by ult cd

[red plank]

anyone got a rot for this boss with this team

cant get above 674

SEA A3(500 D)

pls ping

[obtuse lintel]

should i try harder?

[obtuse lintel]

You can try looking for one here
#💁gameplay-help message

But I think you kinda need something img for this abyss

[red plank]

no img

thnx tho

[obtuse lintel]

[plucky swan]

what's your team?

SEA A3 is ~490D right? maybe try to aim for 840-850?

[obtuse lintel]

[obtuse lintel]

500

yes, i dont have sena weap

[plucky swan]

maybe try to follow this?
https://youtu.be/mdpcpN4KATg?si=TDvBlYWz3ZVdJV24

[obtuse lintel]

i fell for fov trap

[formal wigeon]

damn, reached pre-p2 nirv

[obtuse lintel]

songque?

[plucky swan]

check if you can skip stuff bc of the dist diff

[steady osprey]

fov trap?

the ss banner?

[plucky swan]

https://youtu.be/_0eoOC1Yppw?si=LapKPUsv_5Uji7cV

again, try and check what you can skip bc of the dist diff

[obtuse lintel]

im doing that actually

[obtuse lintel]

but this

just hle sena clears first part

[weak drum]

can get higher if you dont mess up me's first combo

why even evade when hod wont kill you

also accidentally locking onto the puppet in p1 also hurts the score

you can just ignore trying to copy hieu le with his rat evade attacks and just do me's rotation normally since you're in ago

[silk bison]

whats the best cope team this abyss if u dont have rita

is it trio?

[steady osprey]

evading = +2ari for early surplus

[half hatch]

🤓 3

[steady osprey]

3?

nice

[half hatch]

yeah it's 1 base ari + 2 from her kit

[vernal terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/senadina-sena-hi3-honkai-impact-3rd-agree-gif-1681523563793255511

[half hatch]

tbh i dont really think that's still necessary for their run since they're just interupting their combo with that

[weak drum]

just take the -1/2 from farming for surplus instead of like a 10 bc rita’s combo got interrupted and having to restart again

you lose points anyways so pick the one that’s the least damaging

[half hatch]

they could prob use the surplus phantom attack for phase 2 with that

[weak drum]

oh true

[steady osprey]

actually he messed up the evading in the vid though

[half hatch]

wait omg i think i started an ER run last week but didnt finish it

bricked fr

[weak drum]

mid confirmed

holy shit did i do er i fogot

[half hatch]

omg mid twins

[vernal terrace]

Washed mango

[half hatch]

you don wash your mangos before you eat them ?

[weak drum]

how did hieu le mess up when he did 3 perfect evas that smoothly transitioned into his rita combo

[half hatch]

ofc im washed

[steady osprey]

i meant AKU

[weak drum]

well yeah that’s what we were talking about

[steady osprey]

in this newest vid in the chat

[weak drum]

well yeah because he’s asking for help

he isnt sending a ref

he’s also in ago so doing all of hieu le’s rat tech wont really do much

@half hatch ping me in 1h30 mins to remind me to take my blanket out of the washer

[half hatch]

you have a phone

[weak drum]

no

[half hatch]

i'm not your personal alarm

[weak drum]

im end fielding rn, if you help me then i’ll buy a mango this sunday

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-blush-silly-cat-juice-cute-gif-6133838172443289075

[half hatch]

hmm okge this means more moni for me

[weak drum]

[vernal terrace]

Bribing a prof smh

[tidal crown]

Hey guys. I am a returning player and I noticed something called reserved work in the battle pass. Do crystals still expire at the end of every version?

[crude cloak]

Nah, they're permanent now

(also it was every 4 patches in the past)

[tidal crown]

THAT'S FREAKING AWESOME! THANK YOU

[steady osprey]

at the cost of nearly x2 slower gaining rate

[obtuse lintel]

[half hatch]

dink donk

[vernal terrace]

[obtuse lintel]

idk

ref evaded so i did too

i have to do at least the first evade

since it interrupts anyways

[weak drum]

oop

[obtuse lintel]

did better

[steady osprey]

wasted 1st rondo buff?

btw can u do eva wa at the end instead of ba sequence?

[obtuse lintel]

[weak drum]

to insta kill cores you can just eva wa instead of doing her combo, there's still that 2nd useless eva after the "forced" eva you told me about and you somehow missed rita's combo in SO so there's the dmg loss

[weak drum]

try saving the shadow attack outside of SO for p2

if you need dmg then you can also really quickly do eva + wa and continue on with your normal rotation btw

[steady osprey]

u used both SO supports simultaneously

[obtuse lintel]

for this?

[weak drum]

yes

[steady osprey]

have enough dmg dont need saving that

[obtuse lintel]

[steady osprey]

messed up SO though

[weak drum]

you were already at the insta kill line for p1

[obtuse lintel]

then

[weak drum]

try doing the first evade properly btw

actually evade the attack for the +3 ari

[obtuse lintel]

[steady osprey]

but still need to atk to get bar/normal ari regen
in short git gud

[obtuse lintel]

im still messing up and got an extra point

[weak drum]

btw you're like 2-3 points slower with your opening

sena is supposed to ult at 994/995

still messed up the first evade

wasted the rita combo atk, the core's hp bar wasnt spawned in

[steady osprey]

extra point bcs u didnt mess up SO this time

[obtuse lintel]

this dude

[steady osprey]

press HLE wa as soon as "floor 1" appear

to consistently ult at 996

[obtuse lintel]

that comes at around 996

[weak drum]

idk if 996 is a high fps thing but you can 994/995 at unstable/stable 60fps

just switch hle in and wait like barely 1s then immediately wa

you want to wa right before floor 1 appears

not as soon as, thats too late for even a 994

[obtuse lintel]

doesnt work so much for me doing it so early

[weak drum]

thats because you did it too early

[obtuse lintel]

in those yeah

[weak drum]

you just gotta find the perfect time

[obtuse lintel]

i mean that i cant ult sena at 996

[weak drum]

idk if thats even possible

[obtuse lintel]

that leaves them at 1hp or idk

[obtuse lintel]

oh you meant HLE ult

[weak drum]

hle is ulting at 999

[obtuse lintel]

dude ive been trying so hard to ult sena at 996

like "dude, thats imposible "

[weak drum]

anhai just didnt word it that great

[obtuse lintel]

[weak drum]

i mistook it as him trying to tell you to sena ult at 996 too

because like, im 99% sure thats impossible

hle alone already eats like 5-6p with her opening ult

[steady osprey]

oh i just saw the 1st part of the missed ult

[weak drum]

do try to watch atleast half the vid next time

i mean its only like 30s

[steady osprey]

okay noted

[obtuse lintel]

im good

this is too much malding for A3

as long as i keep in top 3, im good

[spiral raven]

so u can hit hle weap and charge ult at 999 for +1
and overkill p2, so maybe skip the first ult in SO

[obtuse lintel]

may be

[spiral raven]

when you have phantom up for p1 should phantom first

[obtuse lintel]

but thanks

[spiral raven]

and then combo so combo execute sooner

[obtuse lintel]

i dont wanna spend more time on that

[spiral raven]

and rita qte was 2 points late, though rita qte on hod feels weirdge

you see people do sena ult at the start so that rita combo can kill the minions at the start for ari

but u have too much dmg

rita qte also dont pierce the core and u have excess dmg

which means yeah might wanna skip sena ult and after hle ult can straight up qte into rita

then your qte probs kill it with that dmg

so ur wanna then time your combo earlier to hit the boss

but not sure if skipping out sena ult and letting rita combo sooner would be better or not, ig u have to try, prob better you keep

and 960 looks like u stuttered or something

ig thats mostly it

[spiral raven]

its up to u im just pointing out what u can try that's it

oh sena ult was slow indeed

[edgy hamlet]

How much difference in score can I expect if my Sena isn't SS? I think she's S1

[spiral raven]

0

[edgy hamlet]

None of the ranks support the leader?

[spiral raven]

well depends on rot, if ur using sena ult when rebuffing later maybe the extra dmg helps with a few points

[spiral raven]

sss

[edgy hamlet]

No I use Sena ult on the puppets at the start

[spiral raven]

then 0

[edgy hamlet]

Hmm ok thanks. I'll keep working through this. It's hard to find a rotation that doesn't overkill or underkill

Mostly underkilling currently lol

[spiral raven]

adding basics or eva wa does it

[edgy hamlet]

Yea I think thats what I was missing

[edgy hamlet]

ok nvm Im still missing too much dmg

[cunning gull]

oh btw is this very important? in terms of surplus mine is delayed but in terms of SO im okay for the most part
even vid used eva+weap in the second SO which i skipped and i didn't do a lot of eva+weaps that wasn't to fill up meter
do you want me to write a condensed version of the difference i did in my run? since i can't grab my recording rn

[spiral raven]

is getting surplus sooner important u meant that?

well in the vid when he used phantom it was outside of sena's buff

so if u got it sooner, the phantom dmg would've eat sena buff

as long as ur phantom eats sena buff then u dont need to worry about it

[cunning gull]

i think in part 1 getting it sooner would make me line up with the ref better
in part 2, im not sure because i noticed that i don't have enough dmg to kill boss with ult without doing few things before SO

[spiral raven]

do u have more dmg or lower

[cunning gull]

ref did phantom then SO
i did phantom atk 2-3 weap SO

[cunning gull]

idk their atk but my rita is 1479

[spiral raven]

but i mean atk doesnt mean too much here cuz of d diff, i meant like say their combo does 1 full bar, how much do u do

[cunning gull]

oh i have to look at the vid again to see

i didn't focus on their dmg

[spiral raven]

if u are missing dmg and say cant phantonm then kill in SO

then when he ended ring at half duration

u can consider actually doing it later

so ur rings comes up later but sena buff would last longer

[cunning gull]

when i do as their did
i have like 2.something ish hp on boss
but they have less

[spiral raven]

ok yeah then just end ring slightly later

[cunning gull]

if i add the extra attack then i can match the boss hp

[spiral raven]

did u have still have sena buff this whole time

if u do then ur doing fine

[cunning gull]

hmm do you mean i should do more in SO
the time i have on SO is short as is

[spiral raven]

yes

but if what u were doing already lets u match and kill, and ur still within sena buff, then it means ur not really wasting any time or anything

its in the vid that u sent me, when he phantom'd before ring his sena buff ran out

[cunning gull]

the only thing im wondering if i should do more eva+weap i see them doing that and carrying on with the rest of their stuff
i mainly only do it if i can follow it up by atk weaps for the bar

[spiral raven]

eva weaps is just dmg thats it but also if the boss is atking u, then u get some ari

[cunning gull]

ik my part 1 is within sena buff but i have to recheck part 2 again

[cunning gull]

hmm okay

[edgy hamlet]

ok I tried to fit as many evade+WA as possible but the run is still really janky. I seem to be scoring a bit better if I Sena ult on the boss rather than the puppets. Is there something Im missing or is this it?

[round arch]

how ur doing so much nihilus seed DMG ? do u have s2 rita or SSS sera ?

Im assuming its sss sera

[edgy hamlet]

Yes SSS Sera. Everyone else S0+1 except Sena is S1

[round arch]

p1 is fine, ending around 946. For p2 u can insta switch to hle, apply buffs and then sena ult then back to rita and try to do as many eva wep and her combos as possible and the surplus before SO

Also ur using ult in SO too late so it is taking a lot of time to recharge

take an assumption, my score is 787 w ss sera in eu so u can do 790+ easy with what I said

Im ending p1 at 943

[edgy hamlet]

So flip the order pretty much? Currently I am doing HLE phantom then ult

[round arch]

yup

[edgy hamlet]

I have 1501 ATK currently

Is that good enough for 790?

[round arch]

yup should be

ur doing more dmg than me anyways

[edgy hamlet]

ok I'll give that a shot then

thanks

[round arch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9WlWSRZwLU

take a hint from this vid, just be faster

and after yuswitch back to rita in p2, dont just do combos try to insert as many eva wep as u can and try to skip the final combo before SO

U should SO around 865-867 or smthing

[open bone]

is eva wep dmg that good or just do do ari faster

[round arch]

good if u dont do it consecutively just at the start of a combo quick eva wep

gtta be cheeky

[open bone]

ic

[round arch]

or end of a combo works too

[spiral raven]

just dont chain together

and do it in between

[edgy hamlet]

Ok yeah I see that in the video too but they do one additional string of BA into WA before SO

I could potentially drop that

[round arch]

yup

[dusky mantle]

No rita. Am i cooked

[spiral raven]

could rs ig

[round arch]

cooked if nirvana else not so much

[open bone]

big trio works more than zero

[dusky mantle]

Just ignore weather and go straight for trio type counter then

[steady osprey]

hoo or hofi?

[crude cloak]

No reason to go HoO DPS here

[dusky mantle]

soo

[edgy hamlet]

Yeah no I think I'm getting ATK diffed hard lmao

[dusky mantle]

back to RL

[obtuse lintel]

[rare iris]

||https://youtu.be/kXorAJW6qQw time for sea players to copy :pepega:||

[open bone]

There’s no way Rita Thelema HLE gets 812 right

In RL, with DS

[mortal jetty]

Why not

[crude cloak]

That sounds about right

[mortal jetty]

Its possible

[crude cloak]

Maybe can go higher even

[mortal jetty]

Hmm maybe I can give it a try in RL

[open bone]

Damn I’m gonna have to mald this evening then

I have been stuck around 770 and idk I was hoping it was hopeless

[steady osprey]

hieule even 825

[open bone]

Yeah but he has Sena

And the HLE is sync 2

[mortal jetty]

Where did u see the 812 with thelema?

[open bone]

No that’s what I need

[cunning gull]

hi can i get suggestions to improve this run? (nirv)
https://youtu.be/6Ug5xncfCFw
notes:

• if vid is weird quality its bc my editing app was acting funny
• there are failed eva+weap attempts, im aware of these
• i need the extra time in surplus so i can kill p1 as u see it
• i skipped sena in p2 bc no enough sp
• i have to spend extra time in 2nd surplus for dmg even tho sena buff is over
• vid i referenced and modified to my needs: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1xFvsBAEG9/?share_source=copy_web

[open bone]

To +100

[cunning gull]

sorry for the clog btw

[open bone]

Or, apparently 815 actually

I’m sure I’m gonna retain I’m just trying to figure out if I can promo

[mortal jetty]

@round arch maybe you can help

Since you are rita pro

[cunning gull]

oh right if someone asks my only alternative to DS is 3* kia elf soo

[obtuse lintel]

abyss in sea is already closed

[rare iris]

time to copy homework

[obtuse lintel]

or it closes different in nirvana

whats the point of copying when abyss is already closed

[rare iris]

watch it, gib me traffic

[obtuse lintel]

its like giving the homework to a friend so he can copy

when he already got the F

[rare iris]

Well I was busy kekw, took me 3 hours figuring the rot from scratch before abyss closes while working on something else

omegalul

[obtuse lintel]

already disliked and reported

[cunning gull]

eu n na isnt closed yet
although sea players... yeah lol

[obtuse lintel]

||(nah jk )||

[rare iris]

danke ❤️

[dusty dagger]

Ok I'll support kyolao

[obtuse lintel]

someone alr comented what i said

[open bone]

So this is what I was doing. I know I lost abt ten points in phase 1, and recording fps issues meant my stellar outburst didn't get the finisher, but even with them I'm not even close to 815 points

is there an obvious mistake I'm making besides those, or is promo here cooked?

https://youtu.be/BtLKXebtZUM

recording stops at 793 because at that point was alr impossible to hit 815 lmao

[cunning gull]

for p1 u alr noted it but i would aim to kill all mobs at once, also i dont think u needed to do exactly what u did with thel (is she wpless btw?)
as for boss hmm i guess just try to dodge as many hits from it as possible while doing the usual rita stuff and u may need to delay SO by a bit so when u ult it only got little hp that u can kill it

[open bone]

no thats wep thel

otherwise I would have just gone rita and not put thel onfield

that scored a little worse but only like 2 pts

[cunning gull]

hmm thel maybe able to kill the mobs by herself

[open bone]

if I do it properly I can kill at 85

[cunning gull]

without the delay
and the qte