💁gameplay-help

[weak drum]

OH COME ON

why him of all people😭

[half hatch]

well

have fun

[weak drum]

im so fucked

[half hatch]

just joing me in RL for raven

[weak drum]

there’re like 5 t20+ myriaders

[weak drum]

my myriad

my thel team is so insane for rl come on

speaking of thel

[thick aspen]

SSS where

[weak drum]

if supply shop changes sena to thel

[thick aspen]

are you even a real fan

[half hatch]

no didnt even pull ascension fr

[thick aspen]

[weak drum]

whjat the fork

[vernal bronze]

Reject fork, embrace glorp

[half hatch]

reject spoon, embrace fork

[normal cloak]

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[boreal eagle]

what i have to do in MA for marut transition omg

[weak drum]

rita evade->tap wa

[boreal eagle]

ill try what a waste of time smh

[weak drum]

smh

[boreal eagle]

yes worked finally

[weak drum]

daniel so noop

[boreal eagle]

ches stinky

[weak drum]

waht the krok

[thick aspen]

true

[lime grail]

out of all these valks which one y'all think would be fastest to clear er with (i need crystals)

note: they're all like 0/4 or 1/4 at most

[digital sky]

Yeesh pain

[digital sky]

Clear just regular er? The 500 xtals weekly thing?

[lime grail]

ya

[digital sky]

Do you not own any pt2 valks?

[lime grail]

or should i do like diff 1.5x with them

[lime grail]

oh i do i just need to upgrade these valks for crystals

and idk which one sucks less

[digital sky]

If u wanna clear weekly, use ur pt2 valks

Otherwise its pretty much just a spam ez er lite to lvl the valks up

[lime grail]

aight

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/rAdiUlG8cd0 Last time I was recomended to try without SO If in p1 if I could score higher than 895 and I did. I'm aiming for 813. Should I stop this strat or keep going? And is there a way I can improve it?

Also should I try Kiana ELF?

[pale musk]

I have RS, should I try them instead of Thel?

[spiral raven]

no

[pale musk]

k

[pale musk]

Do you have any ideas on how I can improve?

[spiral raven]

u can at the very least time ur SO better there for quick +3/+4

u got smacked

[elfin parrot]

you burned your evade early wastefully after that long pause at the start?

[weak drum]

seems like you tried to add in extra eva wa’s for dmg?

which is not needed btw you’re overkilling stuffs

the second ult in p1 was not needed too

[spiral raven]

have u tried 2 SO yet, last time u did only 2 drains, i told u how u can get 3 drains

[elfin parrot]

we're kinda commenting all over the place so i'll just further say SO looks pretty messy and you had extra inputs and damage you didn't need. I'm going to back off from this point because I actually don't own rita and won't be the best to comment.

for non-NA people, note NA ends for them in less than an hour so maybe focus on larger aspects to improve upon

[finite barn]

for marut in MA do you just trio it if no rita

[spiral raven]

u can, but no rita it don't matter

when p2 comes where u not allowed to swap out or he takes less damage

stay on one character for the full 18s

[finite barn]

ew ok

[pale musk]

that was to do combos faster, at least I thought it did that.

[pale musk]

I just tried, 1st drain didn't work

wait actually it did, sorry

[spiral raven]

what you mean it didn't work,

yeah

22 to 45

[pale musk]

I think I’m used to two drains

With that move

https://youtu.be/hhxsj5xr0VY ok it's worse but it works I think?

I can probably shorten p1 cause I got more atk

[spiral raven]

p1 u had a 916 last time

u missed one orb in transition -7 ari

you used weapon but should have left combo hit the orb

[weak drum]

why are you using rita's finisher so late

[spiral raven]

so missing a few more ari

[weak drum]

around here or even earlier is good enough to use rita's finisher

[spiral raven]

atp stick with ur 1 SO ig, if u mess up transition

u can also evade the atk when the pigs come smash into the middle btw

so maybe +9 ari possible

still be short of ring by 3 ari tho

actually maybe only short by 2 ari

[pale musk]

I messed up the last bit but is this what you meant?

[weak drum]

btw im too curious now, why is the pause so long

[spiral raven]

yes

[pale musk]

looking at old runs I think

[spiral raven]

u got +3 ari doing it that way

also much better p1 this time

[weak drum]

much cleaner and faster

[spiral raven]

anyways that prob means you can ring or get very close to ring

the moment p2 starts

i think u can ring tho

[pale musk]

so in that rotation what should my inputs be for the 1 SO?

https://youtu.be/ewXkVWwMk1k I probably could optimize it more but I don't think it's anywhere close to 813 so I'm just going to stick w/the 1 so run

[spiral raven]

well if u do 1 SO, u can ult earlier here at 790 if u follow this

[pale musk]

I need 813 to get t3 though

[spiral raven]

well looking at ur runs so far none seems possible

maybe could've tried ds/kia elf whichever u didn't try

or some other aops like chenxue

[pale musk]

I got 802 at some point with the 1 SO, but I forgot to record that run. It was after I posted the 1 SO

[pale musk]

My only other aop is S Teri and 4 star Kiana ELF

If I have the spare crystals, should I get a new astral op or copies of Teri?

[spiral raven]

i would try to get all valks, u coulda played much differently if you had hle here

rather than thinking about backpull/new aops

[spiral raven]

i see, well if you had it recorded maybe

[pale musk]

You're probably right, but I should have about 42646 gems by the time of next patch and I don't think I'm going to have enough for next patch valks and hle.

[spiral raven]

didn't really say backpull, altho she is good, just focus on newer releases yeah

[craggy ivy]

Wao meemee and akayuki in brack

[delicate tundra]

💀
I would like some help on clearing Inferno with HoF so I can unlock her stamps (for fun, not for meta, although I need a meta build to surpass this).

She is 0/4. I attempted with Fu Hua Musician full set, Iskandar full set, & rotating between HoFi’s two weapons & Badum’s weapon. I’m following the rentry guide for signets; I tend to prioritize Kalpas’, then Sakura’s & Griseo’s.

Specifically, I’m using LITE combat & am struggling with the boss on the 8th floor. The tiger’s element is against her, so that’s a huge part of the struggle. I either die to second phase or run out of time

The most promising build so far is Iskandar with Badum’s weapon, but I’m wondering if there’s a better set I can go with. Can say stigmas/weapons I have

[spiral raven]

iskander pretty bad

[spiral raven]

what stig u got

[cunning gull]

hofi's stamps aren't in elysian shop btw
u must be meaning hofs or something

[spiral raven]

so u do have hofi weapon then

[cunning gull]

still if your hofi isn't level 15 in er you might as well level her for xtals
and unlock all the ego signets
so lets see what do you have

[delicate tundra]

You’re right it’s Hof my bad

I do have both of Hofis weapons

[cunning gull]

err hofi as in finality? so you got waxing this whole time?
that doesn't make sense

[spiral raven]

hofs right

[cunning gull]

just screenshot your weapon and stigmata inventory

[delicate tundra]

HoF is who I’m trying to clear with. I have HoFi’s 2 sets

[pale musk]

What’s more damage for Rita: evade wep into the basic sequence where she does a bunch of slashes into a wep or spam basic until you get to the sequence where she does a bunch of slashes - etc?

[delicate tundra]

The fire dmg related ones are
Iskandar 3/3
Fu Hua Musician 3/3
Lantern 3/3
Badum 3/3
Aslaug M
Ai Chan B
Formals 3/3
Kiana Evening Invite B
Nuwa 2/3 (M B)

[cunning gull]

looking at hofi's (dkey) and badum's gear, i guess the better stat stick would be waxing moon + badum's set
bonus points if you happen to have pistol attack on the set (don't change it for hofs though)

[cunning gull]

not sure about damage exactly but normally you interchange between both
you start with the basics + weapons then dash + weapon stuff

[delicate tundra]

Alright I shall try, thank you!

[cunning gull]

[spiral raven]

i would use probs hofi weapon yeah but i would use zaychiktb and nuwa m

badum stig set kinda trash

oh aslaug m is not bad

zaychik tb aslaug m then

[delicate tundra]

I’ll try this afterward if Badum’s doesn’t do the trick, ty
Didn’t think to use Bronya’s set, but it makes sense as I look at it

[supple thunder]

THIS FUCKING DRAGON
been trying for a week and can't manage to just not get hit

[formal wigeon]

Yeah that's pretty much the only skill check in the entire story

[cunning gull]

is it scarlet fusion?

[formal wigeon]

You can just leave it be and come back later

[cunning gull]

yeah

with the himekos i spend the whole time trying to be at the enemies back and focusing more on dodging than attacking tbh

[boreal eagle]

wow for a week is a severe skill issue

[supple thunder]

same
but the dodge timing seems so inconsistent

[boreal eagle]

the boss does shockwave like atks when he raises his head if u dodge those ur fine

i did it for like 10 accounts while rerolling for invite code

[supple thunder]

The main problem is where he flies over and does like half a flip while landing
Sometimes it'll hit me, sometimes i'll get bullet time, sometimes nothing happens

[crude cloak]

Peeps generally struggle with the tornado attack (unless I'm confusing the stages xdd)
Just stay away from it when it's in its ice form

[supple thunder]

Naw i'm always far enough away to dodge that one
If I even get that far

[rough haven]

Why's there that eye monster? It's not supposed to be here, Not in this Fu Hua boss stage.

[spiral raven]

does it matter, but he was there last time

[rough haven]

iirc, It wasn't.

[boreal eagle]

u have to accept it

[spiral raven]

well

looks like its a different one

but still there was a image of an sd mob yeah

[half hatch]

it was the same mob the image was just not right afaik

[spiral raven]

yeah thats what i meant

[narrow cedar]

do we use kiana or elysia now

[spiral raven]

kiana

r u back from vacation

[narrow cedar]

yeah i was back home on Jan 5

[fringe sandal]

It was, basically invites badum into the stage

Not sure if it's the same SD enemy, but there was one

[scenic trellis]

i dont have vita for this week abyss any tips? thinking of either sena or thema

[cunning gull]

not sena she's meh for ws
probably thelema or badum

badum is more general

[scenic trellis]

alright gonna try with badum first

any ref already out of this week?

[cunning gull]

new refs would br too early imo
try bili bili first

[scenic trellis]

or if anyone can take a look

at the run

[scenic trellis]

alright i can wait for now then

[cunning gull]

oh wait u can use this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=himB4fzvcbI
i didnt get to watch ur full vid yet but yeah that start is rough ,

didnt realize hieu le posted this

[scenic trellis]

oh nice and they use my team

thanks

[cunning gull]

[scenic trellis]

omg now after seeins his run

[cunning gull]

but just fyi
horb dps normally starts her rot with double skill > supports > horb
you dont just throw her skill randomly

[scenic trellis]

yeah my start was terribbbbbbble

[cunning gull]

also she can end SO early if needed

[scenic trellis]

will probably do it earlier then him since D is lower

[cunning gull]

depending on ur dmg

[scenic trellis]

just dont get why he uses badum full combo wa

[cunning gull]

they got more dist but they have more atk

[scenic trellis]

in the opening

[weak drum]

stellar drain + needs the dmg

[scenic trellis]

oh ok and yeah im lacking dmg to follow his rot on p1, the 2 trash moobs last more

gonna take a look at horb stig see if i can get a bit more atk

[weak drum]

eh to be expected tbf, just tweak the run

[weak drum]

he probably has more atk and more cdm in his stigs than you

[scenic trellis]

omg nah my affixes were completly trash xD

[craggy plume]

Also S1 HoRb and S2 LP

[weak drum]

nah hes using badum hle

[scenic trellis]

gonna take this crit rat out for cdm

[weak drum]

crit rate is completely useless btw

[scenic trellis]

yeah i was a noob 1 month ago

[weak drum]

it is not crit%, its a crit flat number that needs to go through an equation to be turned into crit%

[scenic trellis]

still a noob but a bit better xD

[weak drum]

that is like 5% crit rate or smt

[scenic trellis]

gonna change this to see if it gets a bit better ❤️

whats an acceptable crit dmg chance?

like the lower i can keep

[cunning gull]

just as much as u can

[weak drum]

preferably 5.4%+ per line

[scenic trellis]

omg

havent even seen a 4+

[weak drum]

do you even have enough locks and nccs for horb

[cunning gull]

you dont really have anything i would lock so just use ncc

[weak drum]

yeah

[scenic trellis]

got these

[cunning gull]

use ncc for now

[weak drum]

lmao you're dirt poor

just get better atk lines than your current affixes and try the run again

[scenic trellis]

ok

[weak drum]

dont bother going for cdm lines with that amt of ncc and locks

i got lazy with getting cdm so i just went full atk too

[cunning gull]

yeah high atk is fine too

its about which of cd, scythe atk and psy atk you get the most

plain atk is ok but the others can have more stats

[scenic trellis]

alright got lucky with 1

2 to go

[cunning gull]

🙂‍↕️

[scenic trellis]

im out and this is all i got xD

im doomed

[cunning gull]

thats better alr

just go grind the boss rn

u dont wanna use all of ur ncc income

[scenic trellis]

a bit better already 859

[cunning gull]

nicee, keep going

[scenic trellis]

i think i can do 880 , alright thanks both for the tips love ya ❤️

[lime grail]

PE guardian form means off the horse right?

[narrow cedar]

yes

also the hot as !#$@ form if you have her outfit

[lime grail]

real as hell

[faint maple]

i’m using ME HLE VBm, should i keep VBm’s QTE disabled? And it’s not really worth using her Ult ever right?

So far I’ve been playing her basically the same way I would in HLE DPS team

[elfin parrot]

you may consider using her ult at the start of superstring abyss before the timer is counting down and before the enemy has spawned. The benefit in doing so is you get the 3 buff stacks and 3 ARI

and in rare cases you may actually wait for an enemy to spawn to make the ult actually hit

the 2pc stigmata effect has an extra debuff that only activates from ult hitting or starting outburst

but otherwise yeah. QTE off. In most cases ult is more time loss than it's worth.

gameplay wise she should be identical across any team outside of world star

[pale musk]

https://youtu.be/himB4fzvcbI?si=ib0uXRI4v-BkMSFr&t=29 why is Hieu's switch cooldown so fast?

faster than mine at least

[half hatch]

he turned off vita qte

[quasi pier]

turn vita qte off

[elfin parrot]

@faint maple pinging so you don't miss this

[pale musk]

why does it cause that specifically?

[quasi pier]

qte makes switch cooldown twice as long

[faint maple]

that’s very helpful, thank you!!

[elfin parrot]

it's just a basic mechanic

---

some valks do have further effects that counteract against it (e.g. Chrono Navi)

https://i.imgur.com/Gp5q0vC.png

actually idk why i brought that up. modern valks don't really have this

i should've said LoA doesn't suffer from this because they have effects that forcibly removes swap CDs and triggers QTEs

[open bone]

And GoI has something similar but only in one direction

When supports ult main dps goes off cooldown

[elfin parrot]

most WoD valks (not thele) has something similar as well but it only works when they are on cooldown, and some other valk is performing stellar drain

https://i.imgur.com/XGMSV5c.png

but i digress i digress

[dusty dagger]

so mean tf

[rose veldt]

Yo does anyone know how resonance attacks can miss occasionally? I'm reliably only getting 17/18 triggers on HoRb and I seriously don't know why

EDIT: Holy shit it's because I'm not spamming attack during SO? That's so silly LMAO

[crude cloak]

Who exactly was missing the reso proc?

HoRb herself or one of the supps

Vita I assume?

[boreal eagle]

horb can miss the hit before the falling shyte vita missing is almost impossible never happened to me

[rose veldt]

Vita was missing the proc. Turns out I just wasn't mashing attack during her burst.

I was usually just waiting hands off the keyboard while her attack goes through and sometimes it would miss a few.

[crude cloak]

Yeah, checks out

[rare iris]

Inevitable reason to replace ws vita

[vernal terrace]

New breach support for WS and WoD soon?

[edgy hamlet]

anyone have S0 HoRb refs in 2026?

[cunning gull]

rl? hieu le got s1 ref
nirv? dream on/s

anyways for this boss is fws qte off?

[edgy hamlet]

nirv unfortunately

[cunning gull]

[edgy hamlet]

I believe so

[cunning gull]

man im overkilling sk compared to ref

[edgy hamlet]

"suffering from success"

[cunning gull]

😭

sk doesnt have enough hp when my ult is up
now i have to figure out smth

[vernal terrace]

[warped condor]

Am I missing something ? It looks like there isn't enough event currency to empty the shop ?

[weak drum]

you get 200 a day from daily training

[warped condor]

Oh, true, I forgot this wasn't limited by the daily training mission in itself

[vernal bronze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1YhCcF74pY
so i guess why when rita casts her combo attack that consumes stellar drain
But dont tell me when she presses the weapon button that also counts as a combo attack that consumes stellar drain? That seems to be the case

[spiral raven]

where/when

[fierce crypt]

weapon skill copies the previous atk so yes

[spiral raven]

its written in her ring skill yea

[prisma olive]

Am I good for the next version?

[sleek imp]

looks good to me rip dat 50% off

[prisma olive]

Ok, time to get her

[sleek imp]

wait

stop

this isnt question about skipping?

[prisma olive]

Well people mentioned to get her if she ain't threatening my xtal count

[sleek imp]

I'd say the current situation does, the more you can save the better

[half hatch]

getting her will threaten your crystal count, you'll be back at 90 pity and if you need to go for pity for your weapon ( which isnt rare) you'll barely end up with 1,500 crystals

considering that we still don't know what will be in 8.7 besides the valk ( and even if there will be something else) you may want more crystals than usual so keep that in mind

[prisma olive]

Ok, I'll wait for more news

[spiral raven]

they mean that you want to able to have enough crystals afford next patch stuff
but ur crystals atm can't even get the char + weap, much less being to then save up enough for next patch

[primal trail]

really wish i could see this guy's rotation

[half hatch]

maybe this can help you
https://youtu.be/himB4fzvcbI?si=wAYOhjCnPyqRBJDO

[primal trail]

oh damn guess i cant do this rotation i dont have this vita skin

[half hatch]

just in case skins don't actually effect the valk in anything other than a visual level

[primal trail]

lmao it was a joke 😭

[half hatch]

yeah i took it as one but you can never be completly sure

[primal trail]

btw could u smh confirm it to me that both fws and lp qte are disabled in this video?

[half hatch]

yeah

[primal trail]

grazie

[primal trail]

what does vita s2 do

[cunning gull]

more breach and tf

[primal trail]

it makes sense why he did more points then

[cunning gull]

im only few points away with full s0 team so not too bad

you gotta be pretty low on atk if you did a lot of runs but still far off

[primal trail]

no i did with hle on first try, then i tried redoing it w fws and got near but never in 900 so i gave up and didn't save it

[cunning gull]

hmm i mean as long as you get more score than what you alr did its fine
but if you find any difficulty for the run feel free to ask
and make sure you do know what the person in the vid did
like are you doing the SO fws cancels?

[languid scroll]

Hello, how to get remaining thing? Everything is 100%

[lime grail]

arc city

[half hatch]

check if you still have any chapter missions left

[languid scroll]

Thank you, I found out that I had to do a mission one more time after completing. My bad sorry

[obtuse lintel]

[obtuse lintel]

how cooked am I in this abyss?

[cunning gull]

pretty cooked
you can still try something with jds but no thel shieldbreak ehh
and ps is type countered

[obtuse lintel]

im going back to A3 ig

[outer egret]

Hello , I know I will lose my red lotus but I was wondering what would be the best team for this abyss , I got 598 with this team

[half hatch]

you could try hohe/hle/thelema

you can probably get like close to 800 with it

at least i did

[outer egret]

Well I did try , Idk the rotations but got 762 , so ty very much

[weak drum]

fix my run plz

[outer egret]

ok got 800 , lmao ty for the advice

[half hatch]

np

[vernal pawn]

Just peeking my head in a little bit for a suggestion/question
would it be too early to ask how worth Rita might be?

These are all the P2 chars I've got, and I've got about 72k-ish crystals, but I'm unsure if there might be some big double whammy coming next patch that might be better to aim for if Rita isn't all that important (given how lousy my luck is usually), or if I should try for her still

[finite barn]

That's enough to get Rita if you want her I think, unless they're purposefully not announcing something on the cn side there should only be one new valk next patch

[crude cloak]

Next patch should be new valk + dkey (cuz CNY)

You have more than enough crystals to afford both this and the next patch and you actually can get good mileage out of Rita (should've pulled her on day 1 though ideally)

[crude cloak]

They don't announce dkeys at all, so gotta wait until v2 beta to know for sure

How tf do you have 72k crystals with that many valks though xdd

Are they weapless?

[vernal pawn]

Nah, I believe it was me choosing to skip Horb and FoV back then to help prepare for the beginning of Part 2

But call it the gloomy mentality of bad luck or some other reason, but I did hesitate on wanting to get Rita incase some heavy hitter thing was coming next patch. Which would make it convenient for me if Rita ended up being not as big a goal to get

[elfin parrot]

ultimately we don't know enough about next patch to really say yet. The only thing known officially for now is the identity and various typings as pinned in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion (spoiler tag them if you're going to mention them here since global server hasn't announced it yet)

Rita is mainly notable for having a new stellar surplus mechanic for Wheel of Destiny teams. You can read more about it here (click the first link to go to the long post, then look at the bottom)

!faq wod

[night parcel]

Astral Ring Specialization - Wheel of Destiny

Allow me to explain, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see how the Wheel of Destiny Specialization works!

The "Wheel of Destiny" (WoD) ring type is distinguished by generating Phantoms as the character attacks in Stellar Outburst (SO). The tag/attribute that matches with this ring type is "Harmonized Shadow Star".

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[elfin parrot]

So if you're really fixated on WoD and especially have Sera gacha op then you may consider Rita. (beware Sera Op isn't generally recommended)

However beware you already missed a few of Rita's dps abyss cycles this patch so you're not getting 100% meta mileage from her at this point from pulling her. Consider at this point waiting until we get beta info.

!faq gachaop

[night parcel]

Should I Pull AstralOps?

NOO CAPTAIN!

If you are a f2p meta player, you should not pull gacha AstralOps - only players who are retaining or trying to retain Nirvana should consider it if they have the funds (unlikely for f2p players).

Reasons:

• Dreamseeker is good enough despite being free.
• Too expensive, especially if they need SS (~20-30k).
  • AstralOps have the same cost as a gacha weapon, therefore pulling one may result in being unable to afford a Valkyrie's weapon down the line (for meta players, this means skipping said Valkyrie entirely).
• The damage and score increase they provide in Redlotus and below is often minimal and not needed to retain.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[cunning gull]

can i ask you how did that work?
since sk got high ele resistance

surely it can't just be the type advantage?

[spiral raven]

it is basically

[cunning gull]

[quaint saffron]

any ref of this team comp for this abyss? i kinda did 762, but i don't think i am doing it right. welp-

[spiral raven]

thel has some shieldbreak but mostly type adv

[cunning gull]

mhm i alr understand the shieldbreaking
i was rather doubling that hohe got enough dps to bruteforce

the resistance that is

[spiral raven]

depends on syns and rankss

unironically if u have 9s team it beats s2 seele s0 vita

which is me

[cunning gull]

😭

[spiral raven]

but yeah its like 900+ in rl 850+? in nirv if u got 9s

[cunning gull]

to whel for rl lmfao

eh at least i have horb vita badum
but im overkilling part 2
i need to adjust somehow

[spiral raven]

tbf most people have at least ss horb thanks to pwo

but i used all of mine for hoo and hofistamps

xd

[cunning gull]

oh mine is s0

i used pwo to get locks
i still have some left but i can only get s1 rn

[spiral raven]

well s2 if u had her since the start but yeah u werent playing

[cunning gull]

mhm

only got her from 8.1 spending

unironically do i get s1 and get s2 later

[spiral raven]

horb ranks arent bad investments cuz u use her in ma a lot

but its up to u

prob the only real relevant one there is for u anyways

[cunning gull]

i guess i can go for her

[spiral raven]

hoo stamps r pretty good as well but also need a few more other stuff to make it work

[cunning gull]

the only other stuff i can consider is hoh ranks (she's s2 and im fine), hoo ranks (0/4), hofi ranks (i only use her as a support)

hoo is s2

i do have 7t but i have yet to consider getting her a stig for it

[spiral raven]

pretty much rarely see her with own sig nowadays for ma,
benares tm cez b/newt b or zhenyi tb beach mei m

but sig/7t is dependent on boss

[cunning gull]

alright

[spiral raven]

but chasing ranks for ma only seems kinda poor use xd

just do hoh after horb ig

[cunning gull]

sure thing

[spiral raven]

actually saving is good idea too who knows who next

[cunning gull]

alright

[spiral raven]

but horb right now is quite relevant for ranks

yeah just horb ig

[vernal terrace]

Gonna go for HoRb ranks

[cunning gull]

i wanna try abyss again with s0 horb and see if i can improve
if not maybe ill grab the s1 anyways
won't make an actual difference but the ref is using s1 so

[edgy hamlet]

Is 840 in Nirv retainable?

[spiral raven]

is all bracket luck

[edgy hamlet]

Not sure if i should mald or it's already hopeless lol

[spiral raven]

i think u can probs mald

u never kn ow

[cunning gull]

i guess you can show the bracket if you wanna get an idea

also yeah

[vernal terrace]

Guess my dumb decision to get S1 from 8.1 spending event wasn't bad ig?

[steady osprey]

horb team score reaching 900

[vernal terrace]

SK is squishy

[edgy hamlet]

It's NA so everyone wakes up during the last hour but I can show it regardless

[cunning gull]

well its not like you aim for s1
and for whats it worth maybe the ref just didn't want to rank their horb more

[edgy hamlet]

I should point out my team

[vernal terrace]

Hieu?

[cunning gull]

yes

[vernal terrace]

[steady osprey]

what did the hopeless part mean

[cunning gull]

i would mald more to retain top 5
can still be considered as well if you just wanna retain incase you got any of the myriad players in there (i dunno about na ones)

s horb thought tsk tsk

[edgy hamlet]

As in people with higher ranked HoRb can easily outscore me. Im not sure what the cap would be for S0

[edgy hamlet]

I was just hoping to not demote lmao

[cunning gull]

you can probably retain but u still wanna mald more

[edgy hamlet]

hm ok Ill keep trying then thanks

[vernal terrace]

Slack lotus

[cunning gull]

damn this is the first time in forever i got an awake bracket??? wtf happened

[vernal terrace]

[cunning gull]

lotus supposed to be slack 😔

[vernal terrace]

What I’m getting 889 with

[edgy hamlet]

I keep getting the same exact score... anyone have some tips? i think it's a rotation issue

[spiral raven]

ur vid is like runnning at 1 fps or 0 fps

discord buggy

but one thing u can try immediately is after badum ca weap, dont use ult, and swap to vita

[edgy hamlet]

uhh lemme re-encode it. It looks fine on my end

[spiral raven]

vita ults and do her stuff then do badum ult

[spiral raven]

nah i think if i give the vid some time it will eventually load/play smoothly lel

[edgy hamlet]

Do I do WA again or just ult on badum after vita ult?

[spiral raven]

wa ult but wa just to pick up pooop

then i found swapping to badum and ring is faster than seele tho not exactly too sure about this

but cna give that a shot

so after u about to go SO, swap to badum to start SO

badum -> horb -> vita

then at the end u doing the full combo thing overkills, so maybe try fitting a basic in between stuff while on horb? can give that a try to squeeze a few more points out

but ur mostly just dmg gated and its a rather simple boss run

[edgy hamlet]

I should be SO'ing in P1 then?

[spiral raven]

no what i meant is, u SO at 920 with horb yes?
just swap to badum to SO and do jump a jump a etc -> then swap to horb
that's it

[edgy hamlet]

ah I see. I'll give that a try

[steady osprey]

1st question is do u overkill

[edgy hamlet]

yea

[edgy hamlet]

Is this the right idea? It's a bit slow on execution tho

[steady osprey]

well, i meant overkill with SO. as in vid u re not overkilling

[edgy hamlet]

oh

[spiral raven]

looks like possibly better for you to keep the old rot with horb starting ring so you get one more qte, and not do what im saying

but i did say that you can try throwing in some basics in between like combo and ult for example, rather than doing a full sequence and u didn't really do that

for example after ulting, at least the old seele had a small time stop that lets you do a basic for free, i didn't keep track if the dkey changed any of that, but u can try

[steady osprey]

maybe badum try do a complete weapon atk + ult, instead of just ult. u lacking dmg vs the sd mushroom

[spiral raven]

he can try evading twice/ just weap weap a bit later so more of the joint combo hits

point is normally u can get double ult off on first wave

[steady osprey]

no at start u dont have vita buff so u dont have dmg

thats why we save the ult for second badum

[spiral raven]

no its fine to weap wewp a little bit later, im saying on seele you can get ult reset, and get two ults on the sd guy

[edgy hamlet]

I dont believe there's a time stop after her ult. Also with the old rotation I would have to do enough basics to cover this much of the HP bar.

[spiral raven]

its was never a real timestop but more like sus ani thing that lets you get a basic off

[edgy hamlet]

Huh I see, Ill try doing that then

[spiral raven]

but i would still try to do spread the basics, because not completing the full string (where doing full string overkills) iirc wastes a bit of time and is less dmg than just spreading the basics

[spiral raven]

at least this was the case for me yeah

[edgy hamlet]

You mean like using her KE bar?

[steady osprey]

no. i meant let the wa finish casting before ult. i assume u did press the wa to collect sd shard before ult with badum

[edgy hamlet]

Yea I did WA before ult

[spiral raven]

badum wa dmg is extremely small here, better off seele qte into do a basic then ult, or fit a basic before combo

[steady osprey]

yeah in my case the sd mob has just a sliver of hp left so that helped me but maybe not u

[spiral raven]

yeah same but i felt like doing a basic after qte and another basic after ult is faster than letting badum wa dmg hit

[steady osprey]

s0 horb indeed lacking some dmg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u25UWSz-mE4&t=2s

ches vid 866 nirv but idk his horb ranking (sea D is higher anw)

[spiral raven]

yes but he is ss+2 with s2 vita

not close

[vernal terrace]

^

He whel

[steady osprey]

oh whel

[edgy hamlet]

Im still trying a bunch of different combinations from the tips you guys gave lol

[steady osprey]

he doesnt save 2nd ult until SK appear though. he used that to finish SD mob

[spiral raven]

yeah unfortunately that's how it normally goes, we can only give a direction for u to try

[spiral raven]

no but he prob got ult off killing the other mobs ( i didn't watch)

[spiral raven]

Here after combo ult didn't refresh

[steady osprey]

lack dmg to finish mech mob?

[edgy hamlet]

Because I coudlnt kill the little mobs I think

[spiral raven]

yes

[steady osprey]

s0 sadsound

[rare iris]

S0ffering

In 2026

[dusky mantle]

Omg dominace sk

Its horbing timr

[open bone]

I have, like, S-1. 4/5 Horbius.

so stuck with hle dps

[weak drum]

what in the congratulations

wait whats 4/5

[open bone]

full gear and no valkyrie

[cunning gull]

tf

[open bone]

I'll get her next patch, probably

[weak drum]

[cunning gull]

i can't score any higher and im already kicked out of the top 3 in rl bracket.... crazy stuff
idk if i should get s1 horb (wanna get s2 anyways) and let it help me a bit with the attack...

[lapis raven]

im still t1 with s0 hrb

[cunning gull]

i feel like its a rot issue idk

that sd mob makes it hard to say

[dusky mantle]

Im t0 cuz i havent scored

[lapis raven]

dont u hv fws

[cunning gull]

yuh
s0 team
also got hle, she's more consistent in terms of rot i noticed

using ds btw

[lapis raven]

tried hieus run yes?

[cunning gull]

yup

[lapis raven]

also hle is just rng

ure legit praying that sd shards all land grouped up together

fws u can wa

[cunning gull]

well is there anything i can change from hieu le ref?
i just do what they do 100%

its either that sd mod gets away so it still got hp or with sk i overkill and i can't finish the boss quickly with horb finisher

[lapis raven]

hv u tried fws hle instead

that cld lowk work

[cunning gull]

hmm not yet

ill try when i get back to the game

i thought i should focus on fws lp bc it has the highest score in ref

[lapis raven]

do the lp hle opening then chain that into a fws ca wa

[cunning gull]

hold on ill ping you when i go try it

[vernal pawn]

Sorry for the late reply, but I see
Then I'll be patient and wait, then check back later

Thanks for taking the time to help clear up some thoughts in my head

[elfin parrot]

glad to help. Feel free to ask if there's anything else~

[wooden patrol]

are there any refs for cope this abyss? in my bracket (A3) highest cope score ive seen is 840 d479, currently top 2. Is it not possible to get atleast 800? The only cope i can think of for myself is hle fdd ps, and the reason why other copes can score that high is because of fws. What videos can i look at as references if i wanna replicate tech at the very least? idk anymoreplz help

[craggy plume]

What characters do you have?

[open bone]

Reign Solaris can cope decently, do you have her?

HoHE (with HLE supp) also outscored HLE last time I saw this abyss iirc

But HLE is near the top end of copes here

[wooden patrol]

including rita the 4 are kinda the only viable valks i have since this is a beginner acc, i didn't bother pulling for hohe dkey since no ranks

[open bone]

If you’ve got just those four then yeah that’s prolly the best you can do, team wise, PS FdD Rita here is pretty sad

What are you scoring rn

[wooden patrol]

I actually haven't tried cuz i dont have any refs for this abyss, its the first time ive encountered it on this acc

[open bone]

I can throw something together then but I’m not in the mood for a ton of malding

[wooden patrol]

iz fine, i was planning to attempt a run with only 3 hours left or so because I'd probably have picked up a ref by then

[open bone]

https://youtu.be/AwMBOq-8v18?si=KYEdBhN4BGhWv8Ep you’re in A3 so you can probably skip the second WA and BA sequence in SO, or maybe keep them and just pull the trigger earlier, and get more points that way.

It should also be possible to tighten up the intro some, either get the timing better with PS or start FDD and do basics into WA into ult and then just qte ult with PS

[wooden patrol]

ill try it out later tysm!

[open bone]

On review also possible to skip second WA with PS in rotation 2

[eager dawn]

Support for HoHe aside from Badum and FDD?

[half hatch]

You could try thele+Sena/ME though since your ME is level one I would guess that her gear is not leveled/she doesn't even have it

If that's not the case consider leveling her

[eager dawn]

I'm still missing her weapon
But assuming she's leveled, it would be ME and?

[half hatch]

As I said thelema+ ME, though I'm not too sure how ME without her weapon would compare to sena

Just try both

[eager dawn]

Thanks

[open bone]

I’m confused here

If were talking HoHE that’s right, but Badum and FDD can’t support HoHE

So im not sure why you mentioned them

But yeah, assuming they have maxed gear Rita Thelema are both very good, Sena good, HLE good, what you need depends on the boss. I would guess probably Sena or HLE over Rita with no wep

If they have maxed gear

(And for completion Vita and Sonque would work but no reason to run them when there are better options)

[lapis raven]

ur best team for hh here is hh sena thel

hh does nothing out of SO so she needs thel to farm ari

[lapis raven]

this is assuming full gear ofc

[eager dawn]

Thanks

[eager dawn]

Just making sure

[cunning gull]

tried it just now, mob phase is fine, with sk im losing too many points

[lapis raven]

okidoki i’ll try a run or so in a bit

[lapis raven]

i did a few runs with full s0 and sss ds

not much to cut out so really ure stuck at 905. the only things i can think of will be to omit the ult before SO if u hv sera; u shd be able to kill

even more so if ur vita is s2 too

if ur hrbs more ranked u can also try to skip the very first wa on fws, meaning u just ca and go vita

but full s0 ds dmg was just nice, not much i cldve removed

[cunning gull]

atp i gave up tbh

bracket became too sweaty and i couldnt change the run

[lapis raven]

nt

meanwhile

berwi got t3 with like 898 lol

i wldnt hv been t3 in his kek

slacket only in rl 😔

[dusky mantle]

uwu

[cunning gull]

surely next cycle ill have my beautiful slacklotus back

[dusky mantle]

u wish

[cunning gull]

i will

[obtuse lintel]

what should i farm now? i gave +600 of everything

[scenic trellis]

if ur new check which ones spirit weapons require to craft them, so u can craft the dk for dorm or bounty weapons to convert to buy dk

im doing the latter since i already crafted the dk´s available

[obtuse lintel]

I already have the crafteables dks

[elfin parrot]

there isn't really anything generic to farm. So look through the foundry menu and see what you're most interested in, or just stock up on anything since you can always convert it into fuel

[ocean jewel]

I am once again here to ask about HLE teams because I forgor

I know we discussed it but I forgot who it was I was supposed to use

I'm gonna actually lock in for HI3 now

Got 2 hours until abyss reset

VBM doesn't have her weapon yet but she will soon

HoHE has her dkey

[crude cloak]

Your only team option is HoHE VBm

[ocean jewel]

And how does that rotation go

[crude cloak]

For HLE DPS I mean

[ocean jewel]

And for support?

[crude cloak]

She can support WS, WoD and GoI valks, so in your case it's HoHE (WoD), Sparkle (WS) and Sena (WS)

I suggest you check this for teambuilding:

!faq ring

[night parcel]

Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain!

Click here to view a list of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them!

Since 7.3, all new Valkyries will use the Astral Ring system. You must charge Astral Ring Intensity (ARI) to max to enter Stellar Outburst. The team leader determines the active Astral Ring Specialization.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

• World Star - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Wheel of Destiny - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Rite of Oblivion - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Law of Ascension - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)
• Grail of Infinitude - [Click here!](#👶beginner-help message)

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for guidance on Astral Ring team building!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[crude cloak]

The last link especially

In your case HoHE DPS should be best this cycle, the best team you can make is HoHE Sena HLE

Tbh idk how much of a damage loss not having VBm's weap is, do you have any P1 valks geared?

[ocean jewel]

Yeah a bunch

But also I'm working on getting her weapon right now

[vernal terrace]

Not Sena HLE?

[crude cloak]

Just noticed, edited

[vernal terrace]

Nvm you edited lol

[ocean jewel]

So how does HoHE/Sena/HLE work

[crude cloak]

Roughly speaking:

Outside of SO: HoHE WA -> HLE DPS until close to SO (like 10-15 ARI left) -> HoHE QTE -> alternate WA and CA until SO

The SO rot is covered by the in-game tutorial

[crude cloak]

If you're really close to SO (<5 ARI left) and you haven't started HoHE's rot you can just spam WAs

[ocean jewel]

Wait so what does VBM do here

[crude cloak]

No VBm here

[ocean jewel]

Whoops I meant Sena

[crude cloak]

She provides all the buffs 100% passively in WoD

[ocean jewel]

Oh

[vernal terrace]

She's off field support for WoD

[crude cloak]

Which ones specifically? Some could be an upgrade over VBm in some cases

[ocean jewel]

Let me check

[spiral raven]

can throw in an ult to help chunk a bit of dmg with sena

[crude cloak]

Gotta get the basics down first

• there is an issue of not having enough SP on her to refresh the buff

[ocean jewel]

Take a look at my list and ask me who's upgraded and built lol

Wait I gotta reupload it

[spiral raven]

well its fine to just mention it

[spiral raven]

its rot specific but yeah

[crude cloak]

I'm also thinking about whether you have some P1 comps (like LV DPS, for example)
Just send your weap and stig inventories

[ocean jewel]

That's gonna take a lot of screenshots

But I can tell you who's 4/4 from my list

[crude cloak]

That works

[ocean jewel]

HLE, Sparkle, Sena, CE, LV, Sirin, the Herscherr trio (Kiana doesn't have her new wep unfortunately,) JK, HoHE, Ai, Kira

THat's just a few

Oh yeah, RC too

[crude cloak]

So you have trio, LV HoTr CE and Sirin HoTr CN
Decent cope (not for this cycle tho)

Actually, hold on

I forgot LV has a summon xdd

If HoHE doesn't give you a decent score you could try her

I'd try myself but I don't have LV and Abyss is alr closed for me xdd

[ocean jewel]

Uhhh what

Are we talking about the right LV

[crude cloak]

Yes

[ocean jewel]

Since when does she have a summon

[crude cloak]

LV's weap gives her a summon

She actually stole some of HoRb's bosses that way on release

[ocean jewel]

How did I not realize that lol

[vernal terrace]

HoRb probably stole them back after she got a DKey

[crude cloak]

Not probably

She did

[vernal terrace]

Ah

Alright

[digital sky]

Whos the next boss for? The uh non raven boss i mean..cuz thats thelema, but i mean the one right after that...hle?

[vernal terrace]

Paros is HLE's

[narrow cedar]

what's the proper way to farm these now

[vernal terrace]

Isn't it still bounty weapons?

[narrow cedar]

ty

ok that's actually a hard task

cause you need to make 4 of them to get 4000 blue reso lol

[crude cloak]

It's not too bad iirc

3rd Sacred Relic is the cheapest btw

[dusky mantle]

Just get lucky from dorm ez pz

[vernal bronze]

i know lightning flash anchor is a resonance attack, but does anyone know if the same applies for Senadina's thunderous strikes (weapon attack) and its variants?

[narrow cedar]

thanks!

you can get weapons from dorm pulls? i actually forgot you could

[weak drum]

yeah, they're just really rare

you can get stigs from dorm too

[vernal bronze]

Bump

[pearl raven]

Since Finality Kiana is RoO with dk. Does she support all other astral rings? Im asking this when i was using her as support alongside vita and lantern (as leader) she wasn't appearing as support like vita when stellar burst is active. Also who is better at support, vita or Finality Kiana? Does that also depend on who is Kiana supporting, cause i know that Vita has breach and Kiana doesn't

[cunning gull]

ideally when playing a part 2 valk, you want the supports to have a matching supporting tag in order to have the ring gimmicks that the leader wants, meanwhile if you're missing a valk(s) that have the matching ring, a roo valk that doesn't have the matching ring but has their own tag (OS) would be the next option, they will not have the ring gimmick so it makes it a bit awkward for some valks but they offer thr buffs you need

vita is roo but she has the tag that lantern wants, meanwhile hofi with dkey doesn't

[cunning gull]

i highly suggest that you see this

to understand how part 2 rings work

there's also a video in the last link

[pearl raven]

Oh yeah ur right. I didn't pay attention to that. Don't worry i understand how astral rings work. I was just confused about Kiana

[cunning gull]

its alright, just keep it in mind next time
since the tags and special utilities that each valk has changes your teambuilding

[digital sky]

Sad
Ty!

[half hatch]

If it's only mentioned that that one specific attack is counted as a resonance attack then no the others aren't

[obtuse lintel]

whats the best lineup in the event?

i guess im the unluckiest in the event bc i just dont get the chibis i need

[spiral raven]

6 aux 4 qua probs
but what r u trying to do

just the max emblem?

probs anything work

i just did romantic waltz

[obtuse lintel]

for the daily training

training area

[spiral raven]

then yea 6 aux 4 qua, dkey, summer beach, idk u can try a bunch

[obtuse lintel]

[open bone]

Summer beach is the strongest if you can assemble it but relatedly you won’t assemble it. I like dkey x11 as a more reliable option that’s still really strong. 8x assault or 6 aux 4 qua are both a little weaker but you can get them online sooner than dkey and require no real item rng

And then there are a lot of things that work great with the right items but are bricked without them, so you can also try waiting for the first item set at round 4 and seeing what you get and then focusing on your best item there (or buy a money item and then focusing on your round 8 drop)

[obtuse lintel]

idk what do you guys mean by dk or aux 😭

i mean, i now some of those from the game in general, but in this event?

[vernal terrace]

Divine Key
Auxiliary

[open bone]

There’s a build with 11 divine keys (requires Rita divine key start) or one with 6 Assault and 4 auxiliary (I usually use Haxxor for this but I guess Durandal could work)

I’m also fond of caster + power of science and then winning with Vita Badum but even if several items work for it you do really still want an item

[obtuse lintel]

yeah but what is a dk in this event

the combat supplies? a type of unit?

[vernal terrace]

It's a tag some units have
Divine Key

[obtuse lintel]

that

[open bone]

Divine key. It’s a tag that welt / void archives / Mei / one of the sakuras / one of the huas / Dudu / etc have

Rita has a 2/3 chance of generating the bonus mission for it for you at the start

(You can refresh once if you didn’t get it)

[obtuse lintel]

so i shouldnt use recommended lineups

[open bone]

The reccomended lineup for divine key is okay

It’s called divine key assembly or something

[obtuse lintel]

yeah

[open bone]

But most of the recommended lineups are suboptimal

[vernal terrace]

Some of the recommended line ups are alright

[open bone]

They’re not all terrible but you can do better

[obtuse lintel]

the thing is that i just dont get the recommended units for them

[open bone]

That’s what refreshing is for

[obtuse lintel]

so i think it ends up being better having an custom lineup

[obtuse lintel]

yeah, if i just had infinite coins

[open bone]

You don’t need infinite coins??

You assemble your team over time

[obtuse lintel]

i do refreshes, a lot, but i just dont get what i need

[open bone]

You know what imma record a run for dkey if

That’s what it needs

[obtuse lintel]

i know how it works

it starts good, gives me some of the necessary units for the lineup

i win rounds

then it just doesnt give me what i need

i can expand the max unit amount, but then i need to get a new unit to fill that new space

and i just dont get the units i need

i refresh and refresh the shop and still dont get them

[open bone]

https://youtu.be/_InWXyuIm28?si=W1_2AZTtO-IJEqYb

advice that might help make sense of it

• Rita has only a 2/3 chance of generating divine key. If you don’t get it, use another strategy
• Going wide is better than tall. I refreshed for copies to simulate it took longer to find them but B and A ranks work fine. If you have all the white dkey characters don’t go rerolling more until white is no longer the most likely rarity. You can see the % on the refresh screen. If you’re missing a low rarity character you can refresh before upgrading the battle box that round, or even put off the upgrade.
• If you can’t get a useful item like the dkey binding or damage, go for economy items. The one that gives a free purchase or makes refreshed half off is best, but anything that makes money or saves money can be very helpful here because we’re rushing to level 11.
• Don’t be afraid to buy characters to make temporary teams and then sell them later. You get full value back if they aren’t upgraded and in the meantime it helps you survive. Elite is especially good for this
• HP is a resource. You will almost always win if you get all 11 dkeys even if you are at 1 HP, so feel free to trade life for time
• Save your upgrade cards until you hit level 11, and then use them on a screen with a bunch of purples and golds looking for void archives, who is otherwise pretty annoying to find
• Sonque and Horb are not needed. Any decent unit will work there, as you can see in the video I toy with Thelema but any 4 or 5* that completes a bond can put in work. 3*s too really

It is very rare to not win with 11 dkeys and if you don’t win it’s because you’re in second place which still gains score

[vernal bronze]

anyone know why Vita restores 40 ARI in a team of Sparkle, Vita, and Lantern?

I know Vita restores 15 ARI when she fists the enemy
Then 2 stacks of abyssal energy give 5 per, so thats 10
And 5 from sparkle leader

so im ten short

[half hatch]

are you sure it's exactly 40 ? because her first punch also restores more ARI, read her weapon description for that

also sparkle leader skill seems to be about herself

"the character" implies that the following effects count for sparkle

i can't actually test it because i don't have her but just from the wording it sounds like that

[vernal terrace]

Sparkle selfish

[half hatch]

hm idk, reading it again it could be that the ARI buff is seperater from the "the character's" line

tbh best to test it yourself with someone else and just see if they restore 20 or 25 ari

[vernal terrace]

Don't see anything but the 15 ari on her weapon
Maybe it's one of her skills?

[half hatch]

do you mean vita ? if so yeah it's just her abyssal energy shit, makes more sense if sparkle leader skill is only for herself because then i'd be
15 base ari regen + 10 from 2 abyssal energy stacks + her weapon passive = 40

[vernal bronze]

im seeing it in the tutorial for basic rotation cycle for sparkle

[half hatch]

yeah then it's probably her first CA

[vernal bronze]

for vita yeah

[half hatch]

that CA restores additional 15 ari

[vernal bronze]

hold on, where is that

i dont see it

[half hatch]

her weapon passive

[vernal bronze]

whats the name of the skill?

i seeriously cant find it

[half hatch]

Feathers of Illumination, the last line of that

[steep frost]

should i choose the first buff for love elf elysia?

[half hatch]

it's not her WA skill

it's the description of her actual weapon

[vernal bronze]

ohhhh

i wsa looking at the skill list

dang it

[half hatch]

tbh doesnt really matter HLE should kill both rather easily with the right signets, but yeah if you're trying to get a fast score HoD does not have 2 phases afaik so you should be able to kill it a bit faster

[half hatch]

yeah always also have a look at weapons they can have some nice passive skills

[steep frost]

Okk thank you! which signets are best for her?

[half hatch]

check the signet guide in pins for that

[half hatch]

e.g more initial SP in SO for both PAWS and HLE, SP after WA for HLE, tfd after stellar shift if badum is the leader

[vernal bronze]

im tryna think of some valk has a leader skill that restores bonus ARI not just for herself

[half hatch]

don't think there is one sounds pretty neat tbh

[vernal bronze]

would be too busted i think

[elfin parrot]

yeah restoring bonus ari is a pretty premium thing lol

[half hatch]

they could probably balance the battlesuit in other ways but it's rather rare and premium yeah

[vernal bronze]

i can check gear info in #wiki-consult right

[half hatch]

yeah

[vernal bronze]

ok, now im trying to figure out why Lantern restores 20 ARI on combo and Sparkle 25 on combo

ok, i figured out sparkles

damnit, its because i didnt have lantern on my alt, and it doesnt show max skill

[half hatch]

you can always have a look at the wiki they have maxed out skills, though some skill's maximum level also is locked behind rank, they mention that though

also i just remembered that the game shows you maxed skills anyway, though if you want to have a specific number for a specific skill level then it could be a bit harder

[thick aspen]

would be cool if they showed the skill numbers at each of those rank then

its kinda lame when its like "reaches max at SSS" and then it shows what it is at SSS.. ok but what about s0?

[half hatch]

yeah, had that same thought a couple of times

[thick aspen]

well i dont like how they handle ranks to begin with

like why is this not in the order of ranks s1 > s2 > s3 > ss etc.

[narrow cedar]

there might be a reason that makes it take more effort cause those values are variables so it's probably computed and not part of the raw string, so it can be harder to see the base values

not sure how they get the max values but that seems to not be difficult cause its always shown

[thick aspen]

well i dont demand anything cause they do it for free anyway

[narrow cedar]

ya. i tried to help with constellations a long time ago and thats what i remember hearing from them, so s0 values u just gotta login and check for yourself lol

the wiki team still going strong in 2026 is something ill never take for granted, love those guys and gals

i think i use it everyday

[languid scroll]

Hello, Where to find her stigmata, I couldn't find it in the forge

[elfin parrot]

first of all don't use sort by equipper, or don't access forge/foundry from the valk equip menu

go to supply > foundry at bottom left

or equipment > stigmata/weapon > forge

second of all you're already looking at one of her stigmata

https://i.imgur.com/11TglXh.png

use these to toggle between top middle bottom

but sorting by equippers might remove some things and not show the full list which is why we don't recommend going here

third of all do not craft solon if you don't already have hohe's new weapon

read solon's effects. Most of it doens't work without astral ring, and hohe doesn't get astral ring effects until she has her weapon

[languid scroll]

I found out that "Elysia: Pristine" is available in the bp shop/reserve work.

[elfin parrot]

very out of date now. Not meta relevant at all

!faq crystallum

[night parcel]

Immutable Crystallums

Hey there, Captain!

Crystallums are a Battle Pass Currency that can be exchanged for Valkyries and Equipment in the Reserve Works. Captains who purchase Knight or Paladin BP can also access the BP Works of that patch for 3 versions.

There are 3 BP tiers offering different amounts of Crystallums as follows:
-# The totals below account for the 2 Crystallums in the Dorm Shop.

• Vanguard (F2P) BP: 5 per patch
• Knight BP: 18 per patch
• Paladin BP: 24 per patch

It is recommended to spend your Crystallums on Divine Keys that you have yet to collect for permanent account-wide ATK bonuses. See the list [here](#👶beginner-help message).

Feel free to ask us for account specific advice - especially if you buy BP!

[elfin parrot]

for reserve works you're recommended to focus more on getting divine keys if you don't have them all yet

income is only 5 per patch for f2p from vanguard battle pass and from dorm shop. patches are also longer now so it's not easy to get alot of them

if you're not playing for meta then you can ignore what i'm saying but meta is important for getting more crystals from abyss

---

you might want to check if the pristine set is in exchange shop too but currency for that shop is not easy to get alot of too it's not there

[languid scroll]

I see , thanks for info. I will try with willows then for now

[elfin parrot]

if you already have willows then yes hohe can use it but keep in mind non astral ring hohe is very out of date now.

Overall don't spend important materials on hohe. If you have excess that aren't affecting your actual important valks then it's fine really

[vernal bronze]

Another question on why PAWS restores 20 Ari with FDD as leader

FFFFFFUUUU

[elfin parrot]

yeah PAWS has skills that forcibly compensates and makes her fit in an FDD dps team even though her ring/tags don't match

[half hatch]

Fdd also has a counterpart for that passive so maybe also check her leader skills

[vernal bronze]

I think it’s just more damage

[half hatch]

It is yeah

13,14% total and fire DMG dealt

[vernal bronze]

Ok, so with LoA teams, as soon as you activate SO, technically SO ends, so does that mean Stellar drain gets refreshed immediately?

[half hatch]

Yes, though LoA likes to get a bit experimental with it's Ari regen because of heavenly links and the Ari regen that comes with them outside of SO, stellar drains are just something you'll trigger anyway most of the time while continuing to fight the boss

Especially when swap CD resets are often times on the same attack as stellar drain

[vernal bronze]

Ok, im playing the tutorial stage of PS, the SO cycle, trying to figure out why Vita only restores 20 ARI instead of 35
Cause 15 from drain, 5 from abyssal energy

But where’s the 15 from her weapon?

[half hatch]

She doesn't do her punch in LoA

Because her stellar drain got moved to another attack

So that weapon passive doesn't apply

You can still trigger that additional Ari regen by just doing her CA but I never actually did that, never was worth it for me

[thick aspen]

i mean she does it when you do her super qte

but yea outside of that its just trolling

[elfin parrot]

definitely would be interesting to see if it does exist (edit: a meta case where you need to do that first CA before SO in LoA)

although i'm sure many unfamiliar players bumped into it

[half hatch]

It does

You still get that 15 ari

[elfin parrot]

oh huh

that's weird since the weapon states it expires upon activating outburst

[half hatch]

Oh you mean on her stellar shift

Nah not there

Just when you do it before the first SO

[elfin parrot]

yeah

uh let me edit real quick to clarify something

hopefully that makes more sense now lol

[half hatch]

Oh yeah that would be pretty neat to see lmao

[elfin parrot]

it's too bad surplus is stated to be for WoD only for now

[half hatch]

We can only cope fr

[thick aspen]

i dont think there is such case, filling up the first ring for LoA is just so fast

when everyone have their stellar drains off cooldown

and you start with half the ring filled anyway

[elfin parrot]

yeah and the non leader QTEs too

that's why i specified surplus

although at that point it might still be better to reach it manually anyway

[thick aspen]

yesss lets do LoA surplus where you get 3 super qtes on leader

[elfin parrot]

we kind of already see that happen when we save a prior sqte especially with sushang lol

so... quad sqtes...

[half hatch]

That would actually be very funny, though the fight had to be pretty long for that

[thick aspen]

what about letting the supports do their super qte simultaneously from the off field

kinda like the trio ult

[half hatch]

That would actually be very nice for Ari regen lmao

[thick aspen]

it sounds overpowered as heck when you first think about it but all the super qte are pretty much in full timestop anyway

so it doesnt really change that much

just skips some cutscenes

[half hatch]

Well in MA, afaik only 2 have actual tfd and then also only on parts of it

[thick aspen]

sus ani is basically same thing anyway in MA

[elfin parrot]

it still matters enough in abyss that i rather make it clear

i feel alot of people misunderstand the benefits of teri op because of it otherwise

[thick aspen]

teri op is just op

[elfin parrot]

sus ani is also sometimes not actually helpful like against homu performer lol

[thick aspen]

i dont think it delays the bomb spawn so its pretty nice actually

[elfin parrot]

it does

[thick aspen]

[elfin parrot]

i definitely started FWS sQTE too early before and nothing spawned at the end

[thick aspen]

but i remember killing multiple waves in single shift

[elfin parrot]

wait are you talking about just the hola phase?

[thick aspen]

yea

[elfin parrot]

idk at that point. I meant the very end as you're waiting for it to die

sus ani can stall that

[thick aspen]

isnt that the hola phase

[elfin parrot]

it's after the hola phase

when the boss itself dies and spawns a bunch of both

but this is about waiting for the boss to actually despawn from the field

[thick aspen]

oh yea

[elfin parrot]

i guess in some sense you may say the death occurs during the hola phase but the point is, the hola phase is no longer in effect at that point.

[thick aspen]

you can stall the first wave

actually i dont even remember well how that fight goes anymore

its been a while

[elfin parrot]

yeah it's been so long

and it can stay that way tbh :V

[formal wigeon]

that's a good thing

enjoy while it's gone

[steady osprey]

homu king hater

[digital sky]

Random question, but uh at SSS is songque bis for horb
The reso dmg increase looks nice (and thats it lol which is why i doubt it, but im still curious), but its not better than seras 18% cdmg and 2.5%<->5% pdt and 18% pdt right?

[vernal terrace]

I would say Sera is better than Songque since Sera has better buffs for HoRb

[storm ore]

Can someone tell me how to build Elysia HoE?

Pls?

[spiral raven]

new divine key with new stigmata that goes with that dkey

else it don't matter really

[storm ore]

Can you specify which stigmata pls?

[spiral raven]

first question do you have her new divine key

flawless benediction

[storm ore]

Yeah

[spiral raven]

then the stigmata set is called solon

orange hair girl

[storm ore]

Do I only get on banner?

[spiral raven]

u can craft

[storm ore]

Yay

That's all, right?

[spiral raven]

yes

[storm ore]

Thx and have a gn

[hollow tinsel]

does the mobile version have controller support? I dont see the controller settings

[crude cloak]

Only iOS devices

And only during actual gameplay, not in menus

[hollow tinsel]

had to search, saw in one reddit that you need to change lang and reset it back. Wishing for mihoyo to add controller support nowadays

[elfin parrot]

beware any third party means via android for controller may be considered as an external tool by the game, possibly leading to a ban. Please be careful

[rigid cedar]

on android no controller support, but keyboard is supported with default keybinds

so if you have a bluetooth or usb-c keyboard you can use it

[hollow tinsel]

Thanks for this info!

[digital sky]

Can i get by with thelema vita sena this abyss in rl?

S0 all

(I got sci aswell with bronya zay..)

SSeraop

Aswell

[craggy plume]

Thel anything should clear fine for RL since Thel is old enough that a decent amount of the bracket will not have her.

[digital sky]

Then i get the bracket with ss+ thelema, 4/4 sss sena, 4/4 SS rita

[weak drum]

i mean its still a 50/50 on whether they care enough to actually get a decent run or know how to actually play

[digital sky]

Well ima need to learn how to properly play thelema lol
Idek how my first run'll go

Whats like the extremy vauge SO rot

Ik the ult is important 100%

[weak drum]

i mean you can always just do her generic rot

[digital sky]

Gimme

[weak drum]

just bax4-> wa -> hold wa

[digital sky]

Oh that is generic

No hold CA?

[weak drum]

not rlly

i mean it just depends on how much dmg you want

[digital sky]

BA seq does most dmg but is slow
WA is middle of the road
CA is fastest but sad dmg?

[weak drum]

bax4 wa hold wa is usually good enough tho

[weak drum]

ca allows you to be airborne which do more dmg iirc

[digital sky]

Airborne>floorborne?

[weak drum]

idk im following this ref and they're also just doing the generic combo

theres this 12s ref that actually uses the airborne one kek

[digital sky]

Okok

[weak drum]

preferably thel would already be in the air when you switch her in but yeah, air--> ba x4--> ca to get down on the ground--> wa

[digital sky]

SO 1st and 2nd or just 2nd?
Idrk how many health bars raven has in p1

[weak drum]

i dunno either, just be prepared for how absurdly tanky she is

[digital sky]

..well actually

Tankiness

[weak drum]

anyways again, it depends

2 so should be possible i think even with ds

just farm up the ari during trans

[digital sky]

Well sera makes life easy

[weak drum]

if you have sera then just 2 so it yeah

you have an ari farming factory in the team

[digital sky]

88 ari flat out

[weak drum]

oh wait you're using vita sena?

[digital sky]

...yeah

[weak drum]

definitely do 2 so imo

[digital sky]

Or sci

[digital sky]

Oh cuz vitas slow as crap?

[weak drum]

do note that you can use thel moi on raven's feathers during trans

which triggers stellar drain

[weak drum]

yeah

i mean opening with vita is kinda inevitable tho

[digital sky]

Ill be back later

[digital sky]

Why

[weak drum]

can try 1 so and see how that goes

[digital sky]

Cya in 7 hours

[weak drum]

you still need to trigger stellar drain

[digital sky]

NAlul

[digital sky]

But the drains shared across the team

.oh wiat

The initial SO

[weak drum]

you're saying you'd just farm on thel in the opening which in itself is not efficient while you are only getting buffs from one (1) of your supports?

[digital sky]

I just realized okay

Im not smart in WoD teams

I havent owned a proper WoD team till
This patch

[weak drum]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-kitty-angry-anger-grumpy-grumpy-cat-gif-3690866706674522969

[weak drum]

oh btw try thel qte on too

[digital sky]

its supposed to be off?

[weak drum]

yeah usually off

[digital sky]

...no wonder she was a sad ws support...hahaha...:')

But like ik shes supposed to be utility over dmg

[weak drum]

could be bc of your team too but yeah thel qte on as a support doesnt really do much and it makes switch cd longer

its like vbm qte off or vita qte off

[digital sky]

Is vita qte off in raven?

[weak drum]

its always off unless its vita dps or loa tbh

[open bone]

Why would it be on?

Yeah that

[weak drum]

vita qte literally contributes nothing as a support in ws n wod teams

oh goi too

but you can just reset the dps's qte with ult in goi so

[half hatch]

Well vita can't

[digital sky]

Oh okay

[weak drum]

oh right'

i fucking forgot shes not that new for goi

[open bone]

Vita living a sad no symb life on cope symphony GoI teams

[digital sky]

Coralie² can

[weak drum]

yeah but cora 2 actually wants qte on smh

[weak drum]

btw breath check hieu le's old raven runs

should serve as a good idea on how to use thel

[digital sky]

Also another question but moreso like why not

Whys rita a good WoD support?

[weak drum]

surplus state, being able to trigger other valk's stellar drain

[digital sky]

Cant all WoD valks trigger one anothers stellar drain?

With enough hss tags

[weak drum]

holy shit breath, look https://youtu.be/cvD8DqNlyYQ?si=I1ea3qgT4auQCrmg

its your girl

dist not too high too

[digital sky]

Omg

But its bricked bc i dont own s2 vaction notice