💁gameplay-help

[obtuse lintel]

well, yeah, thats what the dk is for

[urban panther]

the what

ok so kiana would work

[spiral raven]

well most likely badum

[obtuse lintel]

you can use paws, badum, ps

[spiral raven]

u wanna run badum this cycle

[urban panther]

damn i do really want bfd but i also really need an ice dps

so ill probably go for ely

[elfin parrot]

mfw songque op is the baseline and DS is slow instead of the other way around

[spiral raven]

xd

[obtuse lintel]

but you reallyhave badum and ps without weapon?

[spiral raven]

i mean its chenxue as basweline here

but yea

[obtuse lintel]

even ely elf

[elfin parrot]

base for damage yeah but then she gets the fast label lol

[urban panther]

yeah yeah ive already been ridiculed for ts 😭

i know i fucked up and shouldve got more weapons

[elfin parrot]

ok but ely elf is slower than everything else so that's more fair lol

[urban panther]

i just hope they come around in non carnival stuff

[obtuse lintel]

i mean, if it makes you happy and you enjoy having more valks even if the cost is having no weapons

well, you are free

[urban panther]

if it makes it any better i got 3 of them like super early

so the ratio wouldnt be as bad without that

i got ps from the free 10 on carnival

def works better for paws than vita did but this superstring was still ass

fuckass timewaster boss

[spiral raven]

yea lol

[formal wigeon]

and no ranks mentioned

way to make people pull for S chenxue that won't do shit

[spiral raven]

she does give the initial ari at s no, so its kinda true but not true at same time

[formal wigeon]

for all intents and purposes, the numbers there are just random

[spiral raven]

indeed, i mean looking at numbers and assuming ur gonna fight a target dummy is just dumb in the first place

[elfin parrot]

i think the numbers are fine if they were well demonstrated and explained but yeah

to give the benefit of the doubt, maybe the video goes into more. I can't say since i haven't seen that particular one.

[still warren]

does anyone have any tips for the abyss boss?

[elfin parrot]

but overall when numbers are close enough, the specific scenario will have a larger influence

[formal wigeon]

ye numbers are fine with context

[still warren]

can't figure out it's gimmicks

[formal wigeon]

but when not even rank is given when it changes so much for aops it borders on misinfo

[elfin parrot]

yeah

[spiral raven]

like u dont get what to do in transition

[still warren]

yes

[elfin parrot]

you can check pins in this channel or look at#video-creations for references that can show more proper playing

hieu le on youtube is who i commonly link for being a regular uploader of both red lotus and nirvana tiers with very solid playing

even if you don't match them exactly in every way, you can still pick up bits and pieces to incorporate. Especially when it comes to stage gimmicks

you can also click on the boss icon in the menus before starting a stage and read through their descriptions

and otherwise if a run goes bad, use the opportunity to scout out the boss. Read descriptions throughout the fight or on the left side. Try out things you normally wouldn't. See what the boss does.

[still warren]

thx

[elfin parrot]

feel free to ask if you have anything more specific about the boss you don't understand

[obtuse lintel]

you can also just search "honkai impact abyss" and some refs might come

[craggy ivy]

Ari regen aop at S when

[obtuse lintel]

i usually watch hieu le (early mentioned), dodoco, or even marisa some times uploads runs too

[elfin parrot]

https://youtu.be/muQz7_xegCw?t=76 @still warren here's a possible direct answer to your question

if watching this still confuses you then maybe check out this explanation i gave for SD enemies. Beware it's alot #👶beginner-help message

the game does have a tutorial for SD enemies via attack > events tab > tactics class > mechanics tab > SD

[obtuse lintel]

or if you cant really find a ref that suits you, there was a link to a page where you can kinda "build your search" and it will make a seach in bilibili

[placid acorn]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but any tips on a HLE Badum Peregrine Sword rotation? I don’t have BFD or PAWS sadly

[obtuse lintel]

yes, this is the right place to ask that

a general rot for that team would be (in SO):

HLE weapon x2 + hold ult > Badum qte + weap + ult > PS qte + weapon + ult > HLE qte + weap x2 + hold ult + BA x4 + ult finish

[placid acorn]

Does holding HLE ult vs not do anything diff? I think I’ve been doing tap

[obtuse lintel]

the amount of arrows you shoot

you can see the difference here.

[placid acorn]

Ty sm I just too scored in my bracket. I just don’t really know the non stellar outburst rotation;

Been doing hle weap x2 > hold ult > badum weapon ult > PS weap hold atk > hle weap x2 ult basic til full SO bar

[obtuse lintel]

First time: weap x2 + tap ult once: she just shoots and does the tap screen animation

Second time: weap x2 + hold ult: she holds the bow for a few seconds loading more arrows, then does the tap screen animation

[obtuse lintel]

thats basically it, but dont need to do PS ca, just do weap and ult

at the start of the battle you can also switch to kiana and start with Badum CA + ult

jump befoe Badum CA btw 🗿

[placid acorn]

Okay I thought I saw that before, but sorry I’m so new/don’t understand all the mechanics. What exactly dos her jump CA even do?

[obtuse lintel]

CA charges AR

btw, dont need to apologize, nobody knows everything so you can always feel free to ask whatever you wanna know

[plucky gust]

do we only get 2 carnival x10 pulls? or we get 2 for each round?

[spiral raven]

only 2

[atomic violet]

Fck this game powercreep

[elfin parrot]

what prompted this? Do you have something you wish to know more about?

please keep in mind this is a help channel. If you were just venting then maybe move it to #🎮honkai-chat

powercreep arguably isn't steep in this game. Most units don't see a direct replacement until around 2 years later

Newer things are generally stronger in a neutral fashion, but this neutrality is largely irrelevant because all endgame scenarios are nuanced and skewed. The way the game keeps a wide cast relevant is by emphasizing many different specific things across these scenarios.

[obtuse lintel]

Bro just spawned to say that

[red ivy]

why does this keep happening to me ? i can't get the currency for stigmata like ever

[open bone]

Wdym? There’s no random element for finalization rewards

So there’s no rng

[crude cloak]

They're asking why they aren't getting stig reso

Which they should

[red ivy]

i somehow never do

like idk what am i doing wrong

[crude cloak]

Lemme check the conditions rq

[full trench]

i thought stig reso was just on weekly finalization

[open bone]

Isn’t that weekly only

Not round

You get it on Monday morning and no other time

So obviously only 1/3 finalizations will ever give it

[crude cloak]

Ah, right, it's not Monday today

Yeah, it's 120 stig reso per week

Not the greatest source

If you really need it for whatever reason I suggest you craft G1 stigs (Kallen Pledge is the cheapest) and salvage them

You get 1k reso per stig

[open bone]

Huh, actually, is there any stigs you can get from the exchange shop that aren’t directly craftable?

[crude cloak]

Yes

Like SAsc and SSwords

[open bone]

Oh that’s cool. If it was less expensive I might try to get those, alas

[crude cloak]

And obviously stuff like PPM and Newt

[spare furnace]

Not having 9 newt B = bricc acc

[crude cloak]

Let's get you back to bed

[spare furnace]

Back in my days...

[cunning gull]

tbh idk if i should get schro m from exchange since i alr have ppm and newt b so that if i can make a complete hoo team then i can level 7t and get zhenyi from foundry pretty easily (for MA shenanigans ig)
or if i can just go for hoo sig gear from reserve which will take forever but ill eventually get all the dkeys i need

[crude cloak]

Well, the question is whether HoO is worth building atp in the first place

When was the last time we had a HoO boss? xdd

In Abyss

[cunning gull]

in forever, it was that starless bull
lemme check

wow

dec 30

[crude cloak]

Yup, checks out

[vernal terrace]

A few of those can rerun with what Valks they released

[cunning gull]

im only thinking about hoo for ma bc hoh thel sena is my only team for ss shenanigans
i mean i can still use her if i gear her up for any img sss bosses ig

[vernal terrace]

Ah-

I have Copium for anything IMG and QUA

[cunning gull]

i have a trioless hofi and nothing for qua lmao

go go VG! /s

[vernal terrace]

[spiral raven]

vg was cool

[open bone]

Same

[violet horizon]

Wonder how much i can push this weaponless elle i got 21731 points

Lemme drop my graphics and se how much i can boost now

[craggy ivy]

Anyone have MA paros ref SS hle S chenxue

[violet horizon]

Weaponless elly 21731 points
Badum 21709
Umh

What is this black magic

[craggy plume]

The black magic is that the sd node is 80% through its healthbar for second phase

[violet horizon]

Hm stardust is a very bizarre type

We would have a bizarre adventure or something

[weak drum]

s chen lmao

[craggy ivy]

SS hle + weap took less pulls than my S chenxue

AoP too expensive

[weak drum]

shuddup

[full trench]

please change and grow as a person

[weak drum]

the ranked hle runs i could find all have sss chen so

[full trench]

ches do u have like

[weak drum]

well actually you only need ss really to follow sss runs

[craggy ivy]

I did, was seele simp now I'm blessed by ely

[full trench]

an 825 run

[weak drum]

just copy sm1 im lazy as hell

follow a sea run actually

[violet horizon]

Didnt get elysia weapon but i got lucky getting a lazy abyss match up

[full trench]

the sea run i found was 823 and im 1 point behind

[violet horizon]

Like come cone someone got 600 points 4/4 elysia

[weak drum]

bmos’s huh

[full trench]

yeah

[weak drum]

im not sure then

i mean d diff should guarantee you a 825

[weak drum]

what abt paul’s run

he has ss fws but i mean all she does is gather shards

[full trench]

he outdamages me too hard i cant copy either p1 or p2

[weak drum]

dang

yeah you have my hands tied then

im just following bmo’s run rn

[full trench]

i thought u were rl

[weak drum]

for some reason all the rl refs i watched either out dmg me like crazy or is severly under dmg

[craggy ivy]

Omg ches nirv arc

[weak drum]

a rl player can follow nirv refs too

[full trench]

[weak drum]

not yet 200 more trophies tho

[open bone]

Gl

[craggy ivy]

[weak drum]

ss chen is such a life saver for most 3s runs im trying to follow

[weak drum]

for any lurkers, dont pull for her

[craggy ivy]

Maybe I pull 2S chen

[weak drum]

she is not worth the investment that you think she will bring

[weak drum]

i mean, already ss hle amirite

would be a shame to brick that beautiful valk by having s chen

[craggy ivy]

True might as well

[weak drum]

les go my demonic talk hasnt failed me

[craggy ivy]

but sadly I need to save for future seele suit

Dkey into new valk theory hasn't failed yet

[weak drum]

cant deny it

[violet horizon]

Battlesuit spoiler ||Wonder if seele is gonna be next or that rita thay was shown||

[weak drum]

spoiler that, i dont think they have mentioned her officially in the glb servers?

[violet horizon]

I must skip the next battlesuit comeing elysia is eating up all my funds

[weak drum]

its badum for me

[violet horizon]

But isnt the next patch ginna be anni?

[weak drum]

after spending 52k for all the new stuffs, the girl spooked me in free 10

[weak drum]

this patch is anni patch wdym

[violet horizon]

This one ends jan firdt 1

[weak drum]

next patch is gonna be a normal rest patch after anni

[violet horizon]

Global anni

[open bone]

2 patches

[weak drum]

the one after that patch should be cny/anni

[violet horizon]

So then the next patch will be shorter probably

[craggy ivy]

can't relate, I got everything I needed + more before I even got sonk skin

[vernal terrace]

This patch is CN anniversary

[weak drum]

cant say that for sure

[violet horizon]

I was greedy this year

[weak drum]

shuddup

[craggy ivy]

I should save up for my inevitable 42k hard pity next valk

[violet horizon]

Yea ik im talking about global anni next year

[vernal terrace]

8.7 should be Glblul anniversary/CNY

[open bone]

Well we should be able to say for sure right. Bpass already tells us how long patches are lmao

[weak drum]

i got hle + dkey + sa chen in like 30k

the extra 20k was from me trying to get syn2 horb n random shits before i got stopped by badum spooking me

[craggy ivy]

Wao ss chen

[violet horizon]

Im still pulling elysia weapon im like 40k crystal in

I got seeles dk first cuz she ends sooner

[weak drum]

L

imejin not luck saccing

cant be me ikr

[craggy ivy]

I built pity on ely banner

[weak drum]

L

[craggy ivy]

Allat to still get diff'd by ss chenxue is wild

[violet horizon]

Hi3 is that gatcha game where building pity is bad

[weak drum]

i have 0 xtals rn and i need 23k for skin + weap assuming hard pity

gonna be expensive for my wallet

[craggy ivy]

Oh I got skin alr

[weak drum]

ok s chen

[craggy ivy]

4k xtals too

[weak drum]

get fucked on sss paros

[violet horizon]

I wonder who is gonna get a skin in global anni

[craggy ivy]

Dogshit boss anyways

[weak drum]

that cool fancy lil instant 4th basic wont help you regen more intensity L

also yeah dogshit boss

[craggy ivy]

Ult gives more ari

[violet horizon]

This current boss?

[craggy ivy]

Issue is it's not enough to cut no ss chenxue

[weak drum]

wdym i have to do nothing on fdd for the intensity to tick up but also not have the timer tick down

fuck you rot makers

[weak drum]

yes, both abyss n ma

the very shameless hle check boss

[modern yew]

Paws, ps or hohe for my 3rd team member for current abyss, nirv s0 hle, s0 fws, and ss chen

[open bone]

Scores should all be pretty close

[violet horizon]

Yea even my weaponless hle is outdoing my badum 🥲

I thought after DK seele we would be free from aponia boss balding and forgot type weakness exists

Hare holding onto aponia like her life depends on it

[weak drum]

because badum cant pop sd points + have no rime

[violet horizon]

Yea she has to use JD to do it for her

[spiral raven]

hare holds no one

[violet horizon]

Omg hare is so meta 😍
/Jk

[weak drum]

i dont think hare t1’d last apo or did she

need to check for refs again

[violet horizon]

Sometimes I wish aponia boss never existed

[violet horizon]

I think people were useing thelema?

[weak drum]

thats just a cope option

thel cant t1 apo

[violet horizon]

Then its probably mini dudu i think

But oh my do I hate aponia boss so much

[spiral raven]

if the last time apo ran was in march/april then yea, hare t1 dominance , but right now is about MA, and hare cant do MA

[violet horizon]

What team is destroying aponia?

[spiral raven]

rs

[weak drum]

in ma? probs dudu spark + smt idk, hare hasnt t1 apo ma in awhile

[violet horizon]

Make sense

[spiral raven]

she never did

[weak drum]

she used to before brick became a thing

[spiral raven]

never in ma

[weak drum]

9s hare actually t1’d

[violet horizon]

Idc abt ma scores so I just use anything thats fun

[weak drum]

it doesnt matter anyways so yeah

not like ma is an important mode

[spiral raven]

hmmm you need to link ref, cuz i dont think hare can 7s apo

[violet horizon]

Just 140 crystals a week

[weak drum]

im not trying to find a 2 yo ref

[violet horizon]

Kinda wish MA was revamped

[weak drum]

here, trust akayuki @spiral raven

actually lemme find a newer msg

[spiral raven]

47872? that checks out

yeah before brick

[weak drum]

told ya

[spiral raven]

makes sense

[weak drum]

she t1’d

triple phys still haunted her leaderboard tho

the sus ani and tf abuse was funni

now we got loa

[spiral raven]

well i mean for like 1/10th of the pricr

triple support but only s2 seele was 47824

[weak drum]

yeah

[spiral raven]

takes 9s to 872

[weak drum]

2k usd for 1s faster or free for basically the same score

[weak drum]

tbf they did her super dirty by giving her basically no tf or sus ani lmao

[spiral raven]

i mean yea so that's why everyone said she not meant for ma

[violet horizon]

Wow i didnt realise hofi and hotr is is dorm supply 😲

[spiral raven]

don't waste xtals

[violet horizon]

Ik

[weak drum]

nuh

[violet horizon]

Are all the p1 valks in the supply now

[weak drum]

no

you still got like a solid 10 more valks or smt

[violet horizon]

Oh yea fu hua

Fu hua dk next trust im on copuin

[full trench]

hov dkey actually

[spiral raven]

u wouldn't want that

[violet horizon]

But idk if we will get a dk in global anni cuz we didnt get a free p1 character unless its hotr

[full trench]

im praying stellar keys are just gone forever ngl i dont want to keep falling behind on atk

[violet horizon]

Following the free valk trend

[violet horizon]

But will p2 valks get stellar keys or just regular divine keys

[vast lagoon]

how many pure with orbs for 1 Senti frag and for 1 HoF frag?

[violet horizon]

The bp stuff?

3 for a chip that gives 10 frags

Of you mean the witch orb thing sorry

I think its 2400 or something for hofi but you buy a chip that gives 10 frags

Idk about senti though

But senti frags are in willpower shop too i think

[weak drum]

2.5k for one hofi stamp
1.5k for one hos stamp
you cant buy a singular frag

[craggy ivy]

Wait would luna/fov go into bp resetve after this season or no

Thinking of picking 1 up since it'd be nice if either gets a dkey

Just gamba 50/50

[violet horizon]

Useing the free valk trend i doubt they get one

[craggy ivy]

Hfi was free alongside her dkey
Well 'free'

[vast lagoon]

hof not hofi
for frag. they can be converted into witch orbs

[violet horizon]

Yes

[weak drum]

hof can mean 3 different valks

hofs hofi hotf, please do try to be more specific next time

[full trench]

imagine spending pwo for hotf frags

[violet horizon]

But maybe luna vow next

[weak drum]

anyways idk abt the exact number of pwo you get for salvaging just one frag or one soul

for that you gotta ask a more seasoned player who actually cares about that number

[violet horizon]

Kinda hope they take a break w the dk next year and only give one in cn anni

[weak drum]

i’d prefer horb instead bc s1 horb is ugly to look at

[craggy ivy]

There should be a faq for this no

[full trench]

S-rank valk frag => 50 pwo,
S-rank Awakening valk frag => 30 pwo

[weak drum]

oh right

man i forgot about that faq

[weak drum]

no one has ever asked abt pwo in like forever

[violet horizon]

My horb is S3 im blading I want it to be perfect SS

[weak drum]

only ss?

[violet horizon]

Yes im not that rich 🥲

[weak drum]

hm? just farm stuffs up

[violet horizon]

By next patch my hotr will be SS

[weak drum]

im not rich either and im getting 3s lubern and thel (soon)

[violet horizon]

I love looking at SS its so satisfying

[violet horizon]

Maybe i should buy some of the supply frags in luna vow for when she gets dk

[weak drum]

dont be so optimistic btw

[violet horizon]

I just SS'd my sena for collection purposes

[violet horizon]

Im on pure copuin

[weak drum]

hey atleast you’ll do well when that one specific sena weather returns

[violet horizon]

Once a year 😍

SS is fun in ER though

[full trench]

i got s1 sena cause what else am i gonna buy from supply shop

[violet horizon]

She has so much evasions with the yea signets

[weak drum]

waiting for thel stamps in supply

stuck at ss2 + 2 rn

[violet horizon]

Save and wait you never knowls

[full trench]

isnt ss1 doo doo cheeks

[weak drum]

yeah

[violet horizon]

That supply shop helped me SS1 my hohe

[weak drum]

more rime bc yes fr

[violet horizon]

my trio looks funny cuz Hotr is the only S

I wonder if they would give hotr and HoO a Dk

Keep the trio agenda alive

[boreal eagle]

unlikely

[violet horizon]

Im still waiting for that Apho mei.... One can only cope so much

[main pond]

what do i do with this

[weak drum]

choose whatever you want or just keep the box(they’re pretty common), all the weaps there are basically unusable

can be used as a statstick if you’re still new and have no weaps

[boreal eagle]

or just for collection points

[main pond]

which

[weak drum]

fyi the boxes dont expire so you dont have to open it

[violet horizon]

Dosent really matter what you pick imo id use the willpower to get a new char and unlock them in ER for crystals

Or just collect it

Up to you

[full trench]

keep the box until you need al or aw

[violet horizon]

Is 2% em damage bouns or 1.5 multiplayer better for emblem when useing em valks

[spiral raven]

maybe try test hard to say

[violet horizon]

Got a higher score w the 1.5 multiplayer

Omw i forgot the embalm has a time limit lol mine is 607 days 😭

https://youtu.be/H4nQ3K1R_AQ

can someone check my run its weaponless but ik i can do better

[spiral raven]

wtf are you doing at the start

[violet horizon]

I saw people do that

[spiral raven]

you used ca and ult against air

yes but they hit the enemy

[violet horizon]

wait must it hit

[spiral raven]

u literally aimed it at nothing

[violet horizon]

omw

[spiral raven]

yes

[violet horizon]

shrodinngers ult

[spiral raven]

wtf bro

[violet horizon]

now im embarrased

but where else can i improve though?

[spiral raven]

reality is i don't quite follow your string, most of your dmg is from charging ults, but you did a basic 4 into wa into ult, when typically you would hold ult in between so i feel like

you should prob start with a ref

and then adjust the ref base on ur dmg

[half hatch]

since this is weaponless he doesnt gain SP from her WA

at least that's what i understood from the title

[spiral raven]

oh makes sense then

[violet horizon]

Yea

Im just trying to cope the boss dead

And kianna is technically the dps her cough

[open bone]

Makes it especially important you don’t waste her attacks at the beginning then

[violet horizon]

YES

Got 750 points

Thx i was really waisting with the shrodinngers kianna and some basic attacks where unneeded

[half hatch]

• as already pointed out you're basically doing an semi buffed rot in p1 since your fws did not activate her buffs
• at the beginning of p2 try to do WA-> ult before you enter SO to force him into his max HP state and delete the freeze shield before your SO so that you don't need to waste SO dmg on that
• in SO it's unnecessary to do both fdd WA and fws WA, normally you don't need either of them but since you loose some initial SP without weapon you probably need to do at least 1. Give both a try and see if you need the damage from fws WA, you can also turn off the skill "Fourthly, Overcome Hardships Together" to just cast her normal WA instead of the enhanced one for that max HP reduction. The enhanced WA takes quite a bit of time hence why this is skill is often toggled.

[violet horizon]

Thx i did most of these on my 2nd run but i will do the 2nd part what u said

Maybe I can squeeze some 10 points

[spiral raven]

can just record again and send again

[violet horizon]

My group is a bit lazy the highest score is 21767 by lesbian senti 😭

[spiral raven]

slack brackets are common

[half hatch]

gotta appreciate lazy RL brackets, but it's RL so expect some people to wake up tomorrow

[violet horizon]

Im leaching of these slack brackets cant get demoted i need all the crystals for ellies weapon

My recording thing is annoying cuz it covers boss heath bar

Windowed mode here i come

[violet horizon]

Unfortunately i have been recording and recording and cannot recreate my 21750 run

But the tips helped I went from like 730 points to 750

Ill try again tomorrow I gotta study now thx so much, I hope the RL wakers dont come for me tommr

[manic lynx]

how do i get from agony iii to red lotus superstring?

[craggy ivy]

By getting more trophies (place higher in your brackets)

[eager smelt]

play better

[atomic otter]

thats just a long way of saying 'git gud'

[violet horizon]

Omw i got to 21766 points but I wasnt recording

Lesbain senti at 21767 ahhh just 2 points diff to beat lesbian senti

[eager smelt]

never said i wasnt saying that

everyone is skill issued unless they are a month in

[edgy hamlet]

why does this part feel RNG... sometimes FWS ult kills it, sometimes HLE QTE kills it.

[full trench]

i'm guessing it's just whether you gather 6 or 7 spears worth of shards

[edgy hamlet]

Shouldnt FWS WA gather the shards tho?

[full trench]

it only gathers the shards that are on the field when you press it, you can see in the video before the wa hits some more spawn

[edgy hamlet]

Hmm I might do ult first then WA in that case

[sacred cape]

Why don’t you Literally just tap weapon before switching out

[edgy hamlet]

Yea Im switching the order and seeing how that goes

ok yea this works more consistently

[spiral raven]

for me weap -> ult kills spear faster

could be delulu tho i didnt mald

[spiral raven]

think is the same time, u still have to wait for the shard to drop

and u can swap back into ely later

[edgy hamlet]

I guess my thinking was that I would create a small delay from my inputs by doing ult and then WA so hopefully everything would line up lol

[spiral raven]

even if so, its not solving the problem gather still takes time, like gather to do dmg has animation, and swapping in doesnt immediately do dmg

its less than a point diff tho prob

like 0.3

[edgy hamlet]

What do you suggest I do then?

[spiral raven]

just time wa better then ult

[edgy hamlet]

Im just mashing the inputs as fast as possible lol

Is there some indicator?

[spiral raven]

i wait until i see the 7th spear almost hit the floor

[eager smelt]

how about do wa ult wa

[edgy hamlet]

too slow no?

[eager smelt]

if ur hitting the first then u dont need to hit the 2nd

and by that point u wont even lose 1 point

[sacred cape]

just literally press badum weapon and immediately hit whatever you want to do next like switching out

[eager smelt]

click weapon while tapping swap

weapon will queue first 99% of the time

[edgy hamlet]

[plucky gust]

there is a world star weather, right? like domain resonance?

[spiral raven]

yea

[full trench]

apparently the official name is echoing

[plucky gust]

hmmm, so sena is still better than vtuber ely then? or as long as they have domain resonance, it still procs?

[spiral raven]

u can put them together if anything

[vernal terrace]

Sena, HLE, Badum

[full trench]

the ring weathers give a small buff for each valk with the tag and a larger buff for having the ring type active

[plucky gust]

hmmm, then i should've SS'ed sena when she was in the BP huh. . .

[spiral raven]

still in bp

wat u mean

[plucky gust]

im only seeing thelema though?

[spiral raven]

there's tabs no?

[eager smelt]

isnt the other one fov

[spiral raven]

u should be able to see past bps

[vernal terrace]

Sena gone?

[spiral raven]

sena gone?

[eager smelt]

whos sena

[digital sky]

Sena gone

[edgy hamlet]

guys is Sena gone?

[craggy ivy]

Who's sena

[digital sky]

Yes

[edgy hamlet]

Oh ok thanks

[craggy ivy]

When is sena coming back

[digital sky]

In dreams

[craggy ivy]

[vernal terrace]

Sena left bp

[spiral raven]

oh, she not there, i thought they add the valk in there, guess not

[spiral raven]

but i mean u wont need ss sena tho

[vernal terrace]

She wasn't permanent

[vernal terrace]

Not yet anyways

[spiral raven]

last time lightning gaymax is quite slack

[eager smelt]

sena needs sss or just stick with s0

[full trench]

what if i already got s1

[eager smelt]

bricked

[full trench]

do i reroll account?

[eager smelt]

so whale
i could never

[spiral raven]

yes

[full trench]

supply shop isnt even whale smh

[full trench]

ok i make sea account

[spiral raven]

but like s0 score was 808+ and that got u rank 70ish in sea
so you def dont need ss for anything

[eager smelt]

but spending currency on sena is

[full trench]

wtf else am i supposed to get

thel already ss and i dont have lamp

[spiral raven]

how u thel ss

[eager smelt]

wtf is this whaling

i didnt even collect enough currency for stamps until this patch

[full trench]

spending event and bp

[eager smelt]

im too f2p for this game

[spiral raven]

same

[full trench]

ok the sea account im rerolling will be f2p

[spiral raven]

did u t1 whatever that area is event

[plucky gust]

okay. i still have last chance. S2 sena is good, right? i just need 2 tokens after all . . .

[spiral raven]

its same as s0

[full trench]

s2 sena is worthless

[spiral raven]

is ur kia elf 4* yet

[plucky gust]

oof. ohh well. see you sena on next spending event i guess.

[plucky gust]

all p1 elfs are 3 stars.

[spiral raven]

consider stocking up on kia elf frags if ur thel alr s2/ss

idk what thel rank u are

[eager smelt]

no i sat there for 12 hours

[plucky gust]

the plan is to SS her via BP. . . already S2. why 4 star btw? is there any strat with it?

[eager smelt]

im still t2

[spiral raven]

if ur doing 1 SO stuff and its lightning/fire and u dont need to ring very early

kia elf is better

[spiral raven]

rough, but why is it that hard, are 12 hrs just for rng

[eager smelt]

because im unlucky

[spiral raven]

what kind of stuff u need to go well

[eager smelt]

good weapon pull + right boss spawn

it shouldnt take this long but my luck is poo

[spiral raven]

[dark phoenix]

i dont understand the phase transition

[spiral raven]

kill big spear and then collect small lances, and then spam atk

when killing big spear boss will throw lances at u dropping sd dust
then do enough dmg to the point where the 7th lance drops down the floor u gather and kill it

when collecting small lances, timer dont tick but cd /buffs ticks,

[dark phoenix]

https://youtu.be/it5fbYKHLaA?t=165
i see the boss starting shooting small spear, do i just jump in front of it?

[spiral raven]

after he killed the spear right? u can walk

timer is stopped

if its before u just gather it

dont need to jump or anything

oh i see u had time stamp in there

yea u just gather

which is what hle's basic 4 does

[dark phoenix]

so i dont need to care about the small spear flying around?

[spiral raven]

no

it flys and come down and crash onto the floor and drops stardust

[fringe folio]

Hohe or hot who good for beginner or should i keep the box?

[shy storm]

How to get 27k points on the newset emblem?

[dark phoenix]

use vill v

[dark phoenix]

you mean hotr?

[fringe folio]

Yes

[shy storm]

Thanks, I'll try it (although those recycled bosses from Empyrean Legends event from 2020 are making me annoyed)

[eager smelt]

if u want to go for 30.5k i can help

27k is no problem tho just vill v and easy

[dark phoenix]

do we have faq for the valk box?

[fringe folio]

E

[dark phoenix]

they dont really matter, HoH can be a bit better, but if you are pulling for HLE, you wont need either of them

[fringe folio]

What hle

[dark phoenix]

the new valk

imo, just pick HoH
for beginner, she is more of a dps than HoTR, while HoTr has her strong point, you wont be using her for that

[fringe folio]

Well

I already got hle

And i like hoH

[spiral raven]

then thats ur answer

[fringe folio]

Ok

[dusty pagoda]

can anyone tell me who to invest in more?

[dark phoenix]

what is there to invest? pull more rank?

[shy storm]

Sure, you can even DM

[eager smelt]

ill do it when i get home
theres a lot to write out

it might even need to be a whole video

[dark phoenix]

if you have enough crystal, pull HLE and her weapon, then pull HoRb's wp
if not, save for next patch
unless you are missing stigmata on some of the p2 valk, dont need to invest more into your valk

[steel summit]

I own every p2 valk ( ✨ is gearless)
How would i fare (o theory) on nirb on sea
Im coping with my phone so i cant promote yet

[dark phoenix]

no astralop = 99% demote

unless you have good skill and got lucky with the bracket

even myriad could get -200 in nirvana

[steel summit]

I have SS sera & S chenxue,ill probably cope hard

[spiral raven]

now that hasnt happened to me yet, but +100 is quite hard

[dark phoenix]

not sure about S chenxue, guess you have some chance to retain

[steel summit]

Sea too competitive smh smh
No wonder the game's still alive, also many new players
-# how to transfer to EU?

[spiral raven]

u should transfer to na

na more ded

[dark phoenix]

imagine playing dead server

[spare furnace]

Imagine playing dead server just to get high rank

[steel summit]

If that means easier to get to top, ill do that

[spiral raven]

regardless of whether the rank has any meaning, its more xtals

[fringe folio]

Is free hohe and hotr on 4:00 pm or am?

[elfin parrot]

some of us are not going to share the same timezone with you. I can only tell you to check ingame time and match it with server time in #status

[cosmic stream]

I have a question is it bugged or- cuz it never start so i just cant finish the quest and im on mobile so thats weird that it show me letters to move tho..

[dark phoenix]

quit and restart first

[cosmic stream]

Okay let me try

[elfin parrot]

from my experience even the menus don't do anything and you're effectively softlocked there

afaik for now it's bugged and i haven't heard of a solution yet

[cosmic stream]

Right.. im locked in but oh well i hope the dev fix that for the next patch..

[fervent musk]

NA is still competitive these days

[glacial rune]

have you seen maxy's and robbie's bracket on eu?

[fervent musk]

No I have not

Competitive is a relative term

[elfin parrot]

people just exaggerate especially relatively to SEA. Obviously NA still has activity

the actuality is NA's nirvana brackets are now awkward to the point where it's very common for all retain places to be myriad, or you may even demote with myriad

[fervent musk]

I’m comfortable in RL

[half hatch]

Is t5 cutoff still t10 myriad ?xd

[glacial rune]

xddd lemme check

yes

barely

[half hatch]

That's some hell of a bracket

[glacial rune]

legit

won in gacha

mine is more chill for now

[fervent musk]

I am going to lose trophies this cycle because I didn’t pull HLE

The good news is I will still have 1780 trophies, which is enough to stay in RL

[glacial rune]

mine is more chill

[fervent musk]

Yamete Kudasai… what a name

[glacial rune]

he's an oldie

was in t15-20 in p1

[fervent musk]

Yes I have seen him before

I used to watch a Twitch streamer who played on EU

[vernal terrace]

Mines still sleeping

[half hatch]

I'm like t4 with 816 so my bracket is really chill

[glacial rune]

NA RL

[vernal terrace]

They also don’t know wtf to do

[glacial rune]

i'll have to give it to hi3 devs

sd team with hle has too much variance in rotations

[glacial rune]

so people are generally clueless

[fervent musk]

my bracket is still asleep

The last two cycles were so so for me

[vernal terrace]

I'm matching score wise with NA Myriad t1

[glacial rune]

wait na t1 myriad is 838? XD

[spiral raven]

wait for frost to wake up

[vernal terrace]

Yes

[fervent musk]

Yes

[glacial rune]

wth is this

[thorn island]

Hypothetically speaking... if i don't get ellie's weapon... which one would be better? Call of Crescent (craftable one) or Key of Ego?

[vernal terrace]

NA dead asf

[fervent musk]

I only care about MA haha

[spiral raven]

key of ego

but u rly should try to get elly weap

[fervent musk]

and only if the boss lineup is favorable

[half hatch]

My goat has fallen to t6

[fervent musk]

come to NA

[eager smelt]

must be disturbance diff

[thorn island]

Ik, it's just that i'm not that active anymore so i dont have time and resources 😭 i just play to chill

[glacial rune]

what's D in NA rn

[eager smelt]

+2

[vernal terrace]

NA Nirv is 551

[eager smelt]

ill do abyss once i can stop getting killed in event

[glacial rune]

i doubt it's enough to drop score that much so t3 in NA is t18 EU

but prob by 3-4 pts

tho ig just less people mald in NA

[fervent musk]

[eager smelt]

was like -8 last cycle but horb did horb things

[vernal terrace]

Did 12K then went to mald event

[glacial rune]

horb weathers

[vernal terrace]

Speaking of slacc, I better do Abyss on my EU account before I forget again

[eager smelt]

once i get that stupid 9960 ill do abyss

[glacial rune]

imagine you never will

[spiral raven]

the one u spent 12+ hrs?

[fervent musk]

Here is the MA leaderboard if anyone is interested

[eager smelt]

yes

[fervent musk]

I see pretty much the same people every week

[eager smelt]

who even does ma

[vernal terrace]

Frosty

[fervent musk]

A decent number of players

[eager smelt]

ma is so 2023

[vernal terrace]

I just get the 40 xtals and ignore it

[fervent musk]

Me

[glacial rune]

sss ely haver

and sss dudu ig

[fervent musk]

They have every character at SSS i think

[glacial rune]

yeah

makes sense, they got +1s to paros and apo

[vernal terrace]

Such a whel

[fervent musk]

I used to be able to get T100 MA consistently, but now I can only do it if the boss lineup is favorable

[vernal terrace]

I was able to use 3 part 2 teams in it though, Aponia and Kallen was Copium

[fervent musk]

(i.e. when Songque, FDD, or HLE are not required)

[spiral raven]

pull hle and stop saving ur 200k+ xtals

[fervent musk]

I’m addicted to saving

[young bone]

does it matter which dk i choose from the box as long as they give the 10 atk bonus?

[craggy plume]

The first one isn't available in reserve works so would generally recommend taking it

[cunning gull]

first one because it's not obtainable right now, the rest is in reserve shop
but the box can be kept as well

[craggy plume]

Stars of eden

[true shoal]

Can someone give me a rotation for HLE and Badum

[cunning gull]

general rotation or for this abyss cycle?

[true shoal]

General

Wait also add in Vbm

[craggy plume]

https://www.hoyolab.com/article/41917806 for general

[young bone]

do these have any value?

[cunning gull]

this one is for the vbm part
#👶beginner-help message
badum does qte, hold atk (in some cases normal weapon) and ult
in SO i don't think you can do a full rotation so you end it early

[cunning gull]

not really, they've all farmable as well
i suppose the one in the middle could be utilitied for beginner stuff a but more but i think you should keep it for now

[craggy plume]

You can, you do weapon Ult on badum for energy after first cycle in SO

[cunning gull]

no no they won't have enough sp for hle bc theres only one sym support

[craggy plume]

works fine when I try it, you normally do Ult first support and ult second and it is enough but weapon also gives energy so you can live with doing both on one valk instead. It is important that it is hold weapon though on FWS

[atomic otter]

Farmable where?

[rigid cedar]

still trying to find a 0s for kallen that doesn't set me back for aponia

[eager smelt]

bring out the good old sns

[rigid cedar]

p1 physical valks too undergeared, i've tried most combinations already

no way to obtain MEI stigs either, so for SnS's and TA's case that won't change anytime soon

[cunning gull]

exchange shop

[rigid cedar]

i might be cooking

if only sparkle wasn't like 5 sp off her ult after her WA

[half hatch]

time for SP affixes

[rigid cedar]

[fervent musk]

[rigid cedar]

the plot thickens

[glacial rune]

[rigid cedar]

just lacking timestop with this tbh

can get it early with 2x wa on horb

but that's it

[glacial rune]

not having p1 valks moment

[rigid cedar]

not having MEI moment

[glacial rune]

do you even need mei

we did kallen 0s without mei iirc

[rigid cedar]

with what instead?

[glacial rune]

SI HoS SnS

SnS used dps gear

HoS i dont remember, shui?

let me try remembering

[rigid cedar]

i think i saw something with shui

[rigid cedar]

like here? https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV19o4y1t7nr

[glacial rune]

lemme look

yes like that

[naive mirage]

Guys how much does astral op matter, all the abyss runs I see have the gacha ones and I haven’t pulled for one. Atm I’m just saving for the rest of the patch.

[rigid cedar]

!faq gachaop

[night parcel]

Should I Pull AstralOps?

NOO CAPTAIN!

If you are a f2p meta player, you should not pull gacha AstralOps - only players who are retaining or trying to retain Nirvana should consider it if they have the funds (unlikely for f2p players).

Reasons:

• Dreamseeker is good enough despite being free.
• Too expensive, especially if they need SS (~20-30k).
  • AstralOps have the same cost as a gacha weapon, therefore pulling one may result in being unable to afford a Valkyrie's weapon down the line (for meta players, this means skipping said Valkyrie entirely).
• The damage and score increase they provide in Redlotus and below is often minimal and not needed to retain.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[cunning gull]

oh im late haha

[glacial rune]

ngl i hate this run xd dudu elf is just pepega

it attacks air

i remember hating it back in the day too

[rigid cedar]

to expand on the faq, many people just like showing off high scores and don't always take the usual tools a f2p needs to make due with into account

[craggy plume]

Unless you are doing a 2 SO run it doesn't really matter. I have never had issues in RL without AO even if 90% of the bracket has AO for some reason.

[rigid cedar]

redlotus is winnable with just dreamseeker and elfs

you can even promote into nirvana with just those

the only thing that will be nearly impossible is to retain nirvana for multiple cycles in a row

[craggy plume]

I don't know why people in EU love pulling AOs in RL basically all my brackets have close to top 10 with AO and they really aren't hard to beat

[naive mirage]

Ohh tyyy

[rigid cedar]

because they'd rather throw money at a problem than improve their rotations and runs

[eager smelt]

pull op to counter skill issue
but still not enough

[rigid cedar]

of course, there are also those who just pull aops out of non-meta reasons

that happened especially when Teri became an AOP

[rigid cedar]

rough run, but i might be onto something here

[glacial rune]

used helia, cooked for apo

[rigid cedar]

are you fucking serious

[glacial rune]

yes

did you see apo runs?

its rs helia jds

[rigid cedar]

i dont have rs

[glacial rune]

oh

how are you planning to do apo then

[rigid cedar]

PS/JDS/TFM maybe?

[glacial rune]

ngl id rather use horb on apo then

[rigid cedar]

horb is type countered

[glacial rune]

p1 horb is 880 on apo with triple support

[half hatch]

~~ he doesnt have p1~~

[glacial rune]

p2 horb can prob score higher

[rigid cedar]

okay but not having p1 physical is the very problem why i'm trying to do p2 on kallen

[glacial rune]

but dont you have evrything from that kallen run with hos?

[half hatch]

ps/jds/tfm can also core like 904/936 if team is a bit whale

[glacial rune]

imo it's just better to use that then, since it's mostly just gris gear and shui

[rigid cedar]

no shui
cez b is the only gris stig i have

[glacial rune]

oh ok

nvm then i didnt see

[rigid cedar]

it's okay, i wasn't clear with what i have

[rigid cedar]

gear

weps that are relevant

SI, SnS and TA are S0, HoS is S2

[glacial rune]

lemme think

[rigid cedar]

my conclusion is really that my account is too underdeveloped to pull anything off with p1 physical

[obtuse lintel]

holy cow what is this

[rigid cedar]

her shill patch, so yeah

run her in finality and you get the same results + more stuff

[obtuse lintel]

yeah but thats even crazier than ive seen before

ive seen how crazy are new valks in ER

[rigid cedar]

also F15 is speedrunable again

[obtuse lintel]

but not this much

[rigid cedar]

no more +30s

[obtuse lintel]

every floor was like 9s

[rigid cedar]

yep

[quasi pier]

use horb, she feels busted

[glacial rune]

welll i can do this with your lineup

well, not your line up

but close

maybe i can do more

@rigid cedar i might be cooking something

[obtuse lintel]

have to mention that she is lvl 13 now so thats a little bit of cheating

this is what i got when paws was released

[rigid cedar]

my run is unrefined af so yeah

[obtuse lintel]

or somth like that

[rigid cedar]

what annoys me is horb qte not triggerable against her own conditions unless i do things with her first

[obtuse lintel]

idk, i remember i did a damn fast run with her first run, and she was lvl 1

[obtuse lintel]

yeah let me check

[half hatch]

i mean it's basically the same time, in paws patch there was a stage that was basically +30 secs to your run

[obtuse lintel]

[half hatch]

wait actually

[rigid cedar]

we've had this +30s stuff since PS patch

[half hatch]

yeah nvm it was there in paws patch

[rigid cedar]

they only just got rid of it

[obtuse lintel]

HoO

[rigid cedar]

anyone

[obtuse lintel]

ive seen some people do crazy stuff with HoO

[rigid cedar]

yeah

[obtuse lintel]

the game timer is low

[rigid cedar]

HoO is just utilizing so many signets due to her kit

[obtuse lintel]

but dude idk but for me HoO ER gamplay feels so slow

or may be so repetitive would be the word

[fervent musk]

I used to see sub 1 minute clears with HoO all the time

[rigid cedar]

my personal tip

[obtuse lintel]

ive seen like 1s runs in other modes

[fervent musk]

Yes, I didn’t really like it

[obtuse lintel]

yeah

[fervent musk]

[rigid cedar]

idk about that stars and infinity buff

i want to try this and finally retire blood rose for a while

[fervent musk]

Lantern is my go to valk in ER

[obtuse lintel]

idk i just followed ER guide as always

[rigid cedar]

well i'm going beyond guides

you'd be surprised what works beyond what people recommend

[obtuse lintel]

i did that last week

i went bad for me

[fervent musk]

Rentry recommends Kalpas 2, but I have always had faster clears with Kalpas 1

[rigid cedar]

did you find out what went wrong?

kalpas 2 is terrible

[glacial rune]

your bita is s0 right?

[rigid cedar]

yes

[obtuse lintel]

may be the gameplay

last week i started figuring out by myself since the ER guide didnt have HLE yet

then at mid run i remembered there is ER guide in Marisa's site

was doing the gameplay recom that it said but wasnt good enough

i felt that the same day, she didnt feel as broken as other valks feel when released

there was something wrong

may be my signets, may be my gameplay

[rigid cedar]

i think marisa's guides are usually fine, i just think he spams this active item too much

for his guides

[eager smelt]

its a good item

[rigid cedar]

it is

[obtuse lintel]

well, the run is actually different

i play SO build both times

[rigid cedar]

but situationially you can choose other things like kalpas or helix active

[eager smelt]

no one needs situationally
er isnt hard enough for that

[rigid cedar]

while getting their signets, so free +1

[obtuse lintel]

in marisa's site said to aim first for this

the gameplay was pretty much what i figured out by reading ego signets

[rigid cedar]

no kalpas, eh

[obtuse lintel]

nope

[glacial rune]

i did this, but still 0s for now maybe will give you ideas because i have a limited roster

sucks that seele's cd is so long tho

[obtuse lintel]

but in the usual ER guide there's kalpas

and the gameplay was different

you do some ba before weapon

then run was so different this time

i did finishers last week

i even entered SO again in some stage

but this week i couldnt even click ult

everything ended after SO > ba x4 > weap

some times i could do a few ba after weap

[eager smelt]

can chat cool down for 1 min im about to drop a big wall

[obtuse lintel]

[rigid cedar]

that paws looks very decorative

[eager smelt]

Area 1 Vill-V (Useful for all areas)
Weapons: Signature 5, Spirit Lamp 5, Nuke 5, Playmate 5
Buffs: Cooldown 5, Atk 5, Atk speed 5
Priority: Sig > Spirit Lamp > Cooldown > Atk > Nuke > Playmate > Atk Speed

First 30 seconds:
Immediately pop ult while holding left, this will break 2 chests while also hitting the statue, instantly bring you to level 2. (don't ask me why u can hit the statue 3 times)
First pick: Look for sig, spirit lamp, or nuke, reset otherwise
Follow pathing aligned on the map, if you got the nuke you can be a bit more loose with the corners
After nuke hits level 1, you don't need to work on it past that since it kills mobs even at low levels.
Focus on working on maxing out sig. If you have to choose between cooldown or atk, always cooldown until you get a weapon that scales on atk. After you get that, work towards having cd and atk roughly equal.
After 30 seconds, pop your second ult. This is the only ult timing that really matters, everything else will line up properly. This will kill the elite mob that appears. A little after, the first trial will appear.
Head over to the trial while still collecting chests and clear it.

Boss 1:
By this point, you should be around level 8. If sig isn't maxed here then reset.
After the trial, there should only be a little bit of time left, so make your way over to a corner. Top left seemed to be the most effective for me but it all depends on where your trial was. You need to be there ideally with over 30 seconds left until the boss spawns. Save your ult if there's under 22 seconds left until bosses spawn.
Stand on the grass patch closest to the corner and set up your turrets there. You need to be very early or else you won't have enough turrets set up before the bosses come. At 1 second left, pop ult and move into the corner. You should be level 9 by here.
Once the bosses spawn, they should be relatively close to the turret, already taking some damage. If you can kill one before it flies up that would be best, but sometimes you can't. If they both fly up, they have to land near the same spot or else the kill will be slow. It should usually be at 2200 (points after killing) but my best time is 2230.

Boss 2:
Chests at this point aren't really useful. Just make your way over to the middle and set up turrets so you can react no matter where the trial spawns. Timing should be a little easier here since you probably will have a little cooldown built.
Ideal setup would be sig 5, spirit lamp 5, nuke 1, rest into cd and atk. But more reasonably you would have at least 1 playmate so you can cut down the weapon pool and save rng.
After trial, make your way to the very end of the corner and sit there until you kill the bosses. Pop ult 1 second after timer hits 0. The bosses should spawn right after the ult. I had the most success with the bottom left corner.
If the bosses don't stack on each other after the teleport then reset.
Clear time should be around 4370 but my best time is 4440

Boss 3:
Most runs usually die here. Same as before, sit in the middle until trial. After trial, head to a corner. You should be around level 16 by here.
Ideal setup would be sig 5, spirit lamp 5, nuke 5, cd and atk 5, and the rest into playmate
Similar to boss 1, set up the turrets on the grass patch closest to the corner. At 1 second left, move towards the corner. Pop ult once they teleport.
If they don't teleport on top of each other then restart. Even if they do teleport on top of each other, the turrets may fail to hit both if they don't teleport at the right spot. Rosaliya is also prone to teleporting away if you can't kill fast enough.
Just managing to kill at a reasonable time is good enough, hopefully by around 6450 but less is fine since the rng here is bs.

Boss 4:
Head over to the statue and sit in between the middle of the 2 grass patches on the right.
At 1 second left, pop ult. You should be at level 20 here with everything maxed.
After you get teleported, immediately head straight up. Make sure you sit close to the boss. Since you should have both revives remaining you don't really need to heal. If you only have 1 revive, then quickly activate the statue after killing phase 1 and head back. Use ult when it comes off cooldown.
Kill should be around 9900, but 10k is doable (I'm at 9990)

Apply the basic ideas here to the other areas.
For the second area pop first statue to insta wipe the first boss

[rigid cedar]

[obtuse lintel]

holy pink jesus

[rigid cedar]

holy vampire survivor mald

[obtuse lintel]

i was specting a wall

not the damn geat wall of china

[eager smelt]

luckily area 2 and 3 are easier so it doesnt need this much optimization

[rigid cedar]

how so, more chests in both?

[obtuse lintel]

just realized i didnt even use supports 😭

[eager smelt]

the bosses are easier and the statue is better

[rigid cedar]

true

[eager smelt]

area 3 has shit chests

[rigid cedar]

i could only go for one side before the next exam/boss spawns

if thats what you mean

[glacial rune]

@rigid cedar if there's something apart from bita that gives buffs, you can try it

[obtuse lintel]

SORRY

WHAT THE HELL IS THIS

[eager smelt]

cant even guarantee 1 side or else if the trial spawns on the other side ur just screwed since u cant make it there in time

[obtuse lintel]

482 MILLION?!

[sinful pelican]

you want atk affixes on the mol elysia right?

[rigid cedar]

i can make it later if i go movement speed as my 4th stat

[eager smelt]

bricked

[rigid cedar]

hm

i thought it was necessary to get more orbs anyway

[weak drum]

yes

[eager smelt]

no

[weak drum]

also why did you delete the msg in honkai chat kek

[rigid cedar]

or is hoarding magnets enough

[obtuse lintel]

[weak drum]

i was literally replying to you smh

[eager smelt]

because the orbs are limited by how fast u can kill

moving faster wont help with that

[rigid cedar]

and they dont despawn?

[eager smelt]

as far as i know, no

[rigid cedar]

sparkler doesn't need to be swapped in for her stig buffs

she could be enough

[obtuse lintel]

epically ignored

[rigid cedar]

sorry a bit focused on my stuff

but that ER damage is normal for any ely after MPE

[rigid cedar]

even HoH made new records when her DK came out

[glacial rune]

you wanted to use her on apo that's why i didnt use her but yeah ig she can work

[rigid cedar]

oh right

hm

hofi

[obtuse lintel]

ive never seen that

[rigid cedar]

then you didn't play ER that well yet

[obtuse lintel]

i remember when 10M o 30M with Luna was big for me

[weak drum]

nooo i cant hoard the box

this game fuckin suxxxx

[obtuse lintel]

have been yeeting this thing for years and didnt see that

[glacial rune]

[rigid cedar]

fuck

okay thelema maybe

[glacial rune]

cant do thelema since i dont have her

[rigid cedar]

one attack is enough for her to trigger 3pc

if i've read it correctly

[glacial rune]

3 bars left

[obtuse lintel]

is this a dare on how many times you can do that under 10s?

[rigid cedar]

no, it's cooking for 0s

with p2 teams

since there's only p1 strats right now

[obtuse lintel]

[half hatch]

i mean there are p2 strats just not with things you have

and you'd use them on apopo anyway

[rigid cedar]

i was about to say

[elfin parrot]

when did awawa became a pseudo prof lmao

[half hatch]

the event changed him

[quasi pier]

posted the strats so someone can challenge him

[eager smelt]

posted the strats because even if someone knows it they cant challenge me

it took me 14 hours to get my score

[rigid cedar]

what's your score?

[eager smelt]

9990

[elfin parrot]

i mean luck isn't a consistent thing lol but i get it

[rigid cedar]

okay best i got 9405

33rd in EU right now

[elfin parrot]

time to get first...

[rigid cedar]

technically possible

but it's not something i will sweat too much, i'm just playing for fun

[elfin parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/shigure-kira-kira-honkai-impact-honkai-3rd-dance-gif-14432639614168372248

[eager smelt]

0s is not possible horb is way too slow

[glacial rune]

yeah

is it sss horb

[eager smelt]

no its s2

[glacial rune]

sadly, horb's skill locks her qte

so it sucks ass

[rigid cedar]

sad

so i guess i'm just screwed unless a miracle happens

[eager smelt]

just take a 1s

[rigid cedar]

btw, thelema didn't help

[eager smelt]

its not a big deal

[glacial rune]

i'd suggest you to try apo first

with dif teams

[rigid cedar]

alright

[glacial rune]

and if you're only losing 1s for switching

[rigid cedar]

pulling for teri s btw

[glacial rune]

you might as well do kallen 0s instead of apo 1-3s

since it's more pts

[rigid cedar]

so, i can do the PS team

[half hatch]

fuck maybe i can do 0 sec with paws/horb/ta

feels close

if i had some more time fracture hmge

[rigid cedar]

whats on your ta?

best i can do is DoS with avo tm+cez b

[glacial rune]

(s2+ sus tho)

[obtuse lintel]

sus

[weak drum]

windowed gamer lets gooo

[rigid cedar]

yeah impossible without that time fracture

[half hatch]

pandora, avo TM isac newt B

though i'm a bit short on dmg

possible if i had a bit more

[obtuse lintel]

is this training mode or wth did you use in the other stages?

[sinful pelican]

is it worth getting s1 thelema? I've got enough to get her ranked up to that in the spending event but s2 is her big one from what I remember

[obtuse lintel]

to be able to play everything

[glacial rune]

training

but i also didnt use all of those

[obtuse lintel]

[glacial rune]

so technically i could do that team

[obtuse lintel]

and here i was conformed with my MA

[rigid cedar]

how does your elfs look?

[glacial rune]

tbf you should prob strive to do 2%

everything else is not worth

[sinful pelican]

I've got four star Kiana, don't have project bunny yet though

[obtuse lintel]

what for?

[glacial rune]

2% best rewards

same as 0.2%

[obtuse lintel]

extra aw and frame?

[glacial rune]

exp too but yeah

[obtuse lintel]

exp for what

coins?

[glacial rune]

well, unless you have everything exp is important

other than that sure