💁gameplay-help

[weak drum]

yeah, hle allows you to basically have sp “loans” up to 1k sp, you dont need to farm with your supports in SO like paws

[dusky mantle]

mhmm im just sad i reached single digits with both weapin adn hle

[digital sky]

Doesnt she have 0s MA stuff?

[weak drum]

ss ma*

[elfin parrot]

do you think MA is worthwhile to me?

[weak drum]

also yeah she has quite abit of 0s ss ma stuffs

[elfin parrot]

a gamemode where doing better only gives you more AW?

[weak drum]

if you have her 3s you can even 0s doom

[digital sky]

no.

[formal wigeon]

SS MA has 27 different 0s per boss atp

[elfin parrot]

how about i ask you then. Do you care about MA?

like top scoring it

[digital sky]

SS MA is fun

[half hatch]

Paws CA and finisher will both regen SP and with HLE it's enough if you use 2 moves that'll regen SP for you, on top of that fdd ult will also regen more SP for you

[weak drum]

honestly with the amount of locks i need to buy per patch, i’d take it😭

[digital sky]

But i can never do it lmao

[elfin parrot]

then you can consider it more

thele does make it very easy most of the time though so beware

but it really isn't important

[weak drum]

like braindead easy

[half hatch]

SS Chenxue will make it possible to only use 1 SP regen move and still be able to cast a second fully charged ult but you lose out on shining trace that way so it's also situational

[formal wigeon]

like don't even need anything else kind of easy

[elfin parrot]

you only get so much though, esp with the longer patches making it easier

[weak drum]

there’s almost no variations at all for all of her ss ma rots

[weak drum]

true

[digital sky]

I got HoH aswell

[elfin parrot]

miss elf? you mean hi love elf?

[weak drum]

i havent been able to farm pwo consistently because of the stupid amount of aw needed for locks

im just annoyed bc of that

[elfin parrot]

miss pink elf is MPE which is the first version of elysia and very old/outdated

[willow wedge]

Yes lol sorry

[formal wigeon]

the last thing I did before leaving was little Timmie's 0s on HoV: HoH (before dkey), HoR, Thelema (obviously all on dps gear, no support stuff)

[weak drum]

rc ta thel cooked so hard

[digital sky]

I did HoFs Kira RC
That was my first 0s <3

[formal wigeon]

eww supports

[elfin parrot]

hm actually let's move channels

[weak drum]

shuddup gur you use the equivalent of ice hofs for thel

[digital sky]

RC isnt even on sig gear or jin tm..

[weak drum]

srry sairaan

[willow wedge]

Oh, sure thing

[dusky mantle]

cool

[weak drum]

im so bored rn im eating cream ches cubes

[dusky mantle]

i am basing my hopes

[weak drum]

suffer for 4 weeks and have 4/4 hle for sd ber i trust you

[dusky mantle]

onj

[weak drum]

oh also we’re getting 15 pulls soon, wanna gamble on that

[dusky mantle]

yes

[weak drum]

lets go

[digital sky]

Thats just enough for HoRb dkey <3

[dusky mantle]

also you know the login thing

every 300 days?

[weak drum]

im dumping everything i have for syn2 horb

[dusky mantle]

mine's coming up soon

[weak drum]

oh the account login thingy? you’re hitting a new milestone?

[dusky mantle]

so 10 more rolls

[weak drum]

how old is it now

2.1k?

[dusky mantle]

4

[weak drum]

what the fuck is 4

[dusky mantle]

2.4

[weak drum]

ohhh my god you’re old ber

im hitting my 900d soon

in like 10 more days i think

[tidal moss]

how to get 9000+ points in the new event?? >_>

[eager smelt]

hit both bosses at the same time

dont use aoe garbage

mob clear time only affects ur lvl (will only be 1 difference at the end)
boss clear time affects score

[dusky mantle]

i used ely with bow blade robot and fire bottle with max atk and atk speed + cdr

was thinking of making the himeko aoe build, but you basically just stand next to the enemy and explode on them

for example the i think the lasers count each blade separately?

[tidal moss]

Okay Thank you friends i will try this inabit(=´∀｀)人(´∀｀=)

[dusky mantle]

same with aoe crossbow

[eager smelt]

if u really want to optimize i can help take u to t1

[ivory fractal]

i came back to this game after a year.. and I tried doing MA and absolutely failed. I barely do any damage. what am i doing wrong bruh what has changed 💀

[weak drum]

mainly bc you have no teams

the valks you have dont synergize with each other

[ivory fractal]

so what should i do now

[weak drum]

MA is not important btw, the rewards are just meh, focus on saving up and pulling for debut valks, if you want to be optimized and follow the meta then just make a new account (assuming thats just all that you have)

your main crystals (gacha currency) source is from abyss and er

dont forget to do dailies too ofc

[ivory fractal]

should I buy anyone from here?

[weak drum]

none of them are actually usable in the meta sense

you buy them for the one time er crystals + stress trial if they have that

oh and dorm exp if you havent maxed your dorm

[ivory fractal]

are there any good banners in this version? where can i get the supply calender?

[weak drum]

this channel's pinned messages

and the currest debut valk banner (Hi~ Love Elf - hle) is recommended to pull for

only that

[ivory fractal]

is it dps or support

[weak drum]

all p2 base S rank valks are both a dps and a support

[weak drum]

i pinged you in #👶beginner-help btw

i recommend you checking out the pinned messages there too

[ivory fractal]

ok

ty

[small salmon]

at what point would you guys lock the crit dmg affix and roll for a good 2nd? i know max crit dmg is 5.6% but idk how to compare this 5.35% to 21-22atk

can i go by the blue bar?

[weak drum]

i usually lock when its 5.45%

[steady osprey]

crit dmg on which valk...

[small salmon]

i see. for comparison, what at what atk do you lock? @weak drum

[weak drum]

horb

[dusky mantle]

i lock at 22+

[small salmon]

horb new stigs

[steady osprey]

oh that's nice

[weak drum]

22.5+ but thats just me acting like an idiot and ruining my locks

[steady osprey]

btw u can base on the bar if its nearer to full its better

[dusky mantle]

almost forgot to do dailies

[weak drum]

but yeah for me this is a safe amt to lock, you could be less strict and do it at 22+ like ber too

definitely wont lock anything lower than that, not worth it

[brave carbon]

what teammates should i be using with new ely without paws? are fdd and badum the best options generally

[weak drum]

yeah, they're also the bis options for stardust weathers that hle topscores too

[dusky mantle]

sooo. no HLE weapon = slacc?

[weak drum]

try using paws lead instead of hle

[dusky mantle]

well actually

[weak drum]

damn ber

[dusky mantle]

i mean retain is not a question, i meant t1-3

[weak drum]

nvm just slacc

[dusky mantle]

thanks

so

paws fdd HLE/Hohe?

[weak drum]

yeah

i wonder how well hle no weap supports

[dusky mantle]

OR HERRSHEY TRIO

[weak drum]

fox has fire res that matters for once

[dusky mantle]

oh right

[weak drum]

if you hershey then turn the rot into a glorified hoo dps rot

[half hatch]

Shouldn't be that far off from normal

I don't see a lot of buffs on her weapon

[weak drum]

oh nice

[mortal jetty]

If hle no weapon better play hoh

[dusky mantle]

kkk

[small salmon]

seems good enough for now. found high Atk faster than any high crit dmg (i might have clicked through one high crit dmg affix )

[vernal terrace]

When testing in beta: full attack was better than have 2 lines of crit DMG

[small salmon]

i looked at wyverein's affix comparision video and it was all within 1% of each other

[weak drum]

shouldnt matter much unless you really mald for that +1

[mortal jetty]

False

4 attack + 2cdm is more damage but the difference isn't that big

[vernal terrace]

Ah

[mortal jetty]

This is only one run tho... in real fight the damage number will be different

[wicked quiver]

hi guys! What's now currently the best dps sparkle team that i can use? She's SS2 by the way. Did anything change with the new elysia?
hofi and HoRb have their key thing/part 2 gear.

[steady osprey]

hle and dlc horb can supp sparkle

[finite pivot]

Sparkle Ely and badum ig for you ?

[wicked quiver]

is hle the new elysia?

[steady osprey]

yes

[finite pivot]

But in abyss for her weather it was sparkle Vita horb

Since its ice down weather you can use Badum or finality

[steady osprey]

the guy asking doesnt have vita

[wicked quiver]

ooh ok whats the difference between badum and horb? I dont think i understand these part 2 teams as much as i thought i did...
Im guessing horb is more support than badum?

[finite pivot]

Wait do you even have Horb DK yet?

I dont see the Astral ring on her Character

[wicked quiver]

i have all stigmatas but im still going for her weapon, so that'll be secured very soon

[finite pivot]

It depends horb isnt that good of a support just generally, Badum will be better in most cases but If you Happen to pull sync 2/3 in a ten pull she will be good

[wicked quiver]

wait what does pulling sync 2/3 in a ten pull mean?

[finite pivot]

However you have high Rank sparkle you can prob get away with Badum finality since they can use their ressonance very fast

[finite pivot]

You get 2 weapons in a single ten pull

you would have to be very lucky or you whale abit

[wicked quiver]

wait so the 2nd synergize rank of the weapon really make that big of a difference?

[finite pivot]

Yeah DK gives +10 Base and then +5 per Sync global attack

[mortal jetty]

U should not bother about synergy... one weapon is enough

[steady osprey]

not that big but its about max potential

[finite pivot]

I mean that guy pulled ss2 sparkle

Tbh If you want to make sparkle alot better and you have cash laying around you can try pulling for vita If you want (not normally recommended for non whales now)

[wicked quiver]

oh but that was very very lucky, i got a few doubles and many earlies 😅 I saved up a lot for her as she's my favorite!!

[mortal jetty]

Maybe he pulled ss2 sparkle because she was his Favorit valk

[wicked quiver]

wait so whats her best best team at the moment? is it not with vita anymore?

[mortal jetty]

Vita badum

[finite pivot]

Yeah

[full trench]

some character simps pull all the dkeys +3 so they have the highest atk

[dusky mantle]

man is 9.7k possible?

[wicked quiver]

I NEED VITA

is hofi out of the picture for her team?

[finite pivot]

Depends she still has very fast ressonance Trigger but you need syncs

But tbh

[mortal jetty]

Not really

[steady osprey]

huh i cant even get pass 8000

[mortal jetty]

Hofi is still enough in rl and sometime she is even better than badum

[round arch]

Isnt vita HORB better now ?

[full trench]

i think horb is better? same niche of very fast rotation but i think horb has drain that doesnt suck

[finite pivot]

Wasnt that for only 1 Boss ?

[mortal jetty]

Not sure...it was the only case on tona..we need to see more test

[wicked quiver]

yall know so much 😭 .. i'm still here questioning why the new elysia isnt being mentioned anymore

[finite pivot]

Simply bc

[steady osprey]

coz they heter

[finite pivot]

Teri took alot of sparkle bosses > Quantum Vita boss so hoyo made bosses just for sparkle like fire up kosma and tona

[full trench]

for ws or in general

[finite pivot]

But fire up weathers always have ice down as an downside

[round arch]

I think vita HORB more dmg but vita badum faster

Very situational

[mortal jetty]

Against vita its depend of ranks... 6s sparkle Was better than 6s teri team iirc

[finite pivot]

So ely loses out on dmg bc shes getting debuffed by the weather

[wicked quiver]

what is ws? I might mean in general 😄

[finite pivot]

World star

[finite pivot]

Wait really ?

[steady osprey]

ws is sparkle ring

[mortal jetty]

Yes

[wicked quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/midnight-the-cat-stopped-working-midnight-the-cat-cat-cat-meme-funny-cat-gif-81113296414293415

[full trench]

yeah ss sprokle baseline good

[mortal jetty]

6s sparkle was even better 6s teri on quantum parvati

[finite pivot]

[wicked quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-27567306

[finite pivot]

SS sparkle Vita Badum right?

[mortal jetty]

Yes

[finite pivot]

With Sync or without?

[mortal jetty]

6s+9

Sync ofc

[finite pivot]

I still hope i can lucksacc an early s2 Vita on monday

[mortal jetty]

Same

[full trench]

me too

[wicked quiver]

SHES HERE MONDAY?

[finite pivot]

Yes

[wicked quiver]

lord

[finite pivot]

But we also get 20 free pulls

But the Banner is a scam

Pity does not retain so either you Invest into getting her or you just spend your 20 free pulls and move on

[full trench]

if i had the pulls for weapon maybe i would try on sparkle but im too poor

[wicked quiver]

pity is 90 right

[finite pivot]

Yes

But i got s2 thelema weithin the free pulls last year

[wicked quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scared-gif-27466237

[finite pivot]

So it is possible

[wicked quiver]

lets hope for the best 🙏

so for me, the best that i get is that badum kiana is one of her best team members in most of the teams

aside from vita

[finite pivot]

Yeah

Situationally Badum horb

[wicked quiver]

1. vita/badum
2. elysia
3. horb

[finite pivot]

No

Elysia is prob Stronger

[full trench]

fwiw i think vita only loses ari gen from not having weapon but fws loses 20% tdm buff

[wicked quiver]

what is ari gen?

[finite pivot]

Astral Ring regen

The Energy necessary to Stellar Outburst

[wicked quiver]

and who is fws?

[finite pivot]

Badum

Badum - Firy wishing star

[half hatch]

Astral ring intensity regen 🤓

[wicked quiver]

omg

[wicked quiver]

and i can guess tdm means team damage? or what

[finite pivot]

right right

[half hatch]

Total DMG multiplier

Though it's additive with other tdms so it's not a direct 20% DMG loss

[wicked quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/h2di-cat-dead-cat-depressed-cat-laying-gif-11402833644907079653

[full trench]

yeah i'd guess it's like 8-12%

[wicked quiver]

wait so fws loses 20% tdm from not having her weapon?

why does she lose tdm

[finite pivot]

Teamwide buff for ressonance dmg

[finite pivot]

BC the weapon provides that

[wicked quiver]

im so lost 😭 im so so sorry

[finite pivot]

Its alright

[wicked quiver]

so she loses 20% in the sparkle vita team?

[finite pivot]

We all start somewhere

[full trench]

oh i didnt even know she also buffed resonance damage

[finite pivot]

Wait do you have badums weapon or not?

[full trench]

shows how much i read

[half hatch]

Her weapon provides buffs to the team

[wicked quiver]

everyone in my roster has their weapon if theyre lvl 80

[finite pivot]

Ohhh so you dont need to worry lol

[wicked quiver]

i went by the rule of not pulling a character if i cant guarantee their weapon

thats why im also wondering if i should really pull vita tomorrow, should i?

[finite pivot]

You got badums weapon so everything is fine

[finite pivot]

No unless you can guarantee her and her weapon dont

Ofc you can spend your pulls on her banner

[wicked quiver]

oh but u mean like dont try to get the rest of the 70 pulls to get her if i cant get her weapon

[finite pivot]

Yes

BC the Banner is gone faster

And all pity is lost

Unlike the normal Banners like Ely

[wicked quiver]

oooooooo ok

[finite pivot]

Thats why i said the banner is a scam earlier

[wicked quiver]

does dps sparkle use theresa or the mc astral op?

[finite pivot]

Her most optimal is Songque Astral op or Kiana elf 4*

[wicked quiver]

the part 1 elf?

[finite pivot]

Yes

[wicked quiver]

REALLY?? THATS THE ONLY ONE I HAVE IM SO GLAD

[finite pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/elf-kiana-kiana-gif-27314579

It is the strongest but it also takes longer to get the Energy

[wicked quiver]

i was also planning on saving to get the last two copies of sparkle as im already that close to triple s, should i? is it a good idea

[finite pivot]

I mean you can If you want

I dont have her Ranks in my mind rn

You can also save your pulls and get s2 Vita which would be a Stronger upgrade Overall

S2 bc it increases her breach buff which sparkle really likes

[wicked quiver]

oooo

ok awesome

thank you all so much!!!

[finite pivot]

Youre Welcome

[digital sky]

Is HoRb better than HoFi for teri?

[mental field]

Teams for LDS?(Lone Destruction Shadowchaser)

[crude cloak]

LDS HLE VBm

It's better to run HLE DPS unless you specifically need LDS though

[chilly fern]

tips for this?

[steady osprey]

dont use ely

[elfin parrot]

i don't think they have a choice

this is top student exam and ely is the only one with the three stages

what kind of items and buffs are you picking up?

(but yeah this isn't final exam where you can pick anyone)

[crude cloak]

I'd go the HP route if you're struggling that much

Though you didn't even get to Roza

[crude cloak]

Actually, idk

[elfin parrot]

i also personally valued movement speed early on.

As for offense ely's default weapon desires atk speed so you can pick up other weapons that also desires it

[steady osprey]

try to pick stats that scale up ur weapons

[crude cloak]

Yeah, that works too

[full trench]

@eager smelt help awalao

[elfin parrot]

veteran players might have an easier time these bosses were recycled from past events so some of us already know their attacks

[full trench]

i remember him typing a wall of text about the event somewhere but i couldnt find it

[crude cloak]

I think it's more about experience with similar games, particularly the bullet hell genre

[crude cloak]

And roguelikes ig

[steady osprey]

tbh this exam is not as hard as the final exam so if u pay attention to the stat>weapon mechanic u should be ok

[elfin parrot]

yeah or vampire survivor. Y'know the elephant in the room.

[steady osprey]

isnt this event vampire survivor

[elfin parrot]

https://youtu.be/KfYZFUsAs_A?t=770 @chilly fern anyway here's a video of someone clearing it if that helps you more

[elfin parrot]

yes that's what i was saying lol

also note you interact with trials on the map with the lower right icon that only appears when you're near one. https://i.imgur.com/4lZk0xu.png I don't feel the tutorial was clear enough about this

[dusky mantle]

You want max dps?

Bow blade robot molotov trust

Then just go atk atk speed + cdr/movement

[stoic crest]

How many days do you have to be away for returnee rewards to kick in?

[steady osprey]

45?

[eager smelt]

what

[dark phoenix]

they increased it

[stiff wigeon]

How are plp getting 825 in abyss rn while im stuck at 797 after trying different methods still same team tho hle , paws , dragoon , chenxue s

Like wtf?

[dark phoenix]

about 60~65 days for second time
not very sure about the first time tho, old sytem was 15 days
can check your email, they send you a mail if you can trigger returnee event

like this

[eager smelt]

show ur run

[digital sky]

For the carnival supply, who are the first group of 2?

[finite barn]

does the bouquet from mail do anything...?

[idle abyss]

no

[stiff wigeon]

Cant put files that big

[eager smelt]

post it on youtube

[runic lion]

awawa i declare war

[runic lion]

ely good tho

[cyan nova]

hey is there no new chapter on this update?

[crude cloak]

There will be in 2 weeks

The patch schedule is in the pins

[cyan nova]

oh thanks

[eager smelt]

declare war harder

[digital sky]

^?

[runic lion]

how am i supposed to compete with awalao

[eager smelt]

wait until vill v releases and then be better than me at her

[vernal bronze]

Legit what do I use here

Like it’s agony 3 but hohe feels terrible

[eager smelt]

because thats not the hohe team

[half hatch]

Give Hle+fdd+vita/FWS a try

It's a3 so you can probably get away with vita and kill within one SO

[eager smelt]

or use vita dps

[solemn delta]

a question on miss pink elf rotation

1. sometimes i cant trigger her qte even w hos hold basic atk in first weapon
2. since i start w 0 energy am i suppose to farm hos until i can ult? or does some of her special equipments (which i dont have) give her some form of energy

[vernal bronze]

Hle no weapon sadly

Alt account has none

[eager smelt]

ur swap is on cd probably
sss + leader skill + weapon give sp

[solemn delta]

i made sure it wasnt on cd
and ig ill have to find if theres free weapon anywhere im using a random one

[eager smelt]

and ur hitting ur clone with combo?

no point with hos weapon ur team doesnt even have the right 3rd

[solemn delta]

my clone?

[eager smelt]

u do know hos has a clone that gives sp right

[solemn delta]

i forgot

its her evasion right

[eager smelt]

yes

[unborn bison]

[plucky gust]

what's the acronym for the new ely?

[crude cloak]

HLE

No alternatives

[plucky gust]

got it. does HLE burst in ER counts as charge attack too?

when you hold it

[brave carbon]

are there any ways to score higher on the ss boss without sentis old stigs, susannah or carole

[crude cloak]

There are a lot of strats on Reinbex's Discord server

Check the pins here

[brave carbon]

do i use fdd or horb with hle for ma mobius?

[spiral raven]

can do kiana sparkle songque

[spiral raven]

probs fdd

[dark phoenix]

sea is trying

[deft creek]

Hohe cant get u up in ago3

[eager smelt]

thats with vill v? too slacc

[vernal bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/tron-tron-legacy-tron-bike-rinzler-daft-punk-gif-25561627

[urban panther]

Is there any benefit to doing the elysian realm difficulties past the last one that gives you crystals

[eager smelt]

no

[urban panther]

Bet

Ty

[cunning gull]

its just if you want it to be a lil more diff or u enjoy er
some people speedrun finality for fun
if you don't need to then you don't have to

[urban panther]

Ok also while im here what's the best kind of thing to refine stigmata for

I've been going for crit but I heard maybe attack is better?

[quasi pier]

elemental characters can't crit

[urban panther]

That explains a lot

Ok thanks

[shell quail]

now it's 2 malders

[cunning gull]

look at the valk who owns the set and give them atk of their type (bio/psy/img/etc) and atk of their weapon type
if they're physical they can use crit dmg as well (except for ps she doesn't crit)
although affixing doesn't matter much until you start to maintain rl

[eager smelt]

should be 100

[cunning gull]

do make sure that you only affix the valks you use the most for endgame tho

plain atk is a fine placeholder as well

[urban panther]

rl?

[quasi pier]

red lotus

[mint rivet]

this is the second exam?

[dark phoenix]

first

[mint rivet]

i am only 17 on first

i acn probably get top 10 atleast

[shell quail]

got a bit unlucky with the run

[eager smelt]

na needs to unlock vill v so i can update my scores

[mint rivet]

is vill v better than elysia

[eager smelt]

yes

[mint rivet]

oh i see

[mint rivet]

what setup are u going for?

[eager smelt]

lamp, nuke, and the big turret
focus on cd atk and atk speed

[mint rivet]

okay

thats what i went for in the second exam but i died when it had 2%hp remaining it wouldve been 9400

[stone stump]

does HLE need ice dmg bonus affix ?

[boreal eagle]

no

only atk

[fair dock]

what's the recommended ones here?

[eager smelt]

thelema

[boreal eagle]

thelema stamps

[spark grove]

someone teach me how to form p2 teams cuz at least p1 you get a good idea of dps supp supp p2 I feel like it's just random bs go should be all my p2 valks in those two rows

[eager smelt]

dps
2 supports

just open up the ring kit and see if they share a ring type

[pale musk]

should I get 50 stamps worth of ranks on Sena or less than that or skip for whoever is next in shop?

[dark phoenix]

still missing 60 atk from dkey

[flat rain]

Is my account getting better?

[spiral raven]

if u just play and pull wisely it will be better

[flat rain]

I mean, I am trying now

[cunning gull]

you're returnee? honestly the account looks like a mess but assuming you returned in 8.3 its progressing a bit
hows ur battlesuit and equipment pity rn?

[spiral raven]

but in the absolute terms you cant rly be worse unless u salvage ur stuff

[stiff wigeon]

I have the exact same team in abyss and same reslotus stage why tf do they have like 2x more damage than i do everytime

[flat rain]

I think it was more like 8.2

[stiff wigeon]

Like their runs are 830+ while mine is at 790+ its like my damage is stuck

Why is it like that???

[cunning gull]

oh so you tried for ps?

[spiral raven]

is it the same rotation or what

[stiff wigeon]

Same

[spiral raven]

well then u might wanna record

[stiff wigeon]

But my damge like reduces at the end

[stiff wigeon]

I cant send such a big file tho

[cunning gull]

you're in rl? hows ur attack? did you do a lot of attempts? what ref did you use?

[stiff wigeon]

Ill send the front part

[cunning gull]

you can send it as an unlisted yt vid

[stiff wigeon]

I did 50+ attempts with slight tweeks

[stiff wigeon]

Ill do that can you wait few minutes?

[cunning gull]

hmm at least do the free pull
if you get lucky with hle get her wp and you'll have another good valk
if you don't get her from that free 10 pull then just save

[flat rain]

I am never that lucky

[cunning gull]

ah i see its ok
at least u have free pity for next time

[flat rain]

See already already failed you guys

[cunning gull]

you could potentially wait a bit until the end of horb dkey supply to see if you can get her dkey but i don't think you really need that right now
for now just work more on ur paws and keep saving for future patches and you'll do better

your progress is alright for a returnee who doesn't wanna leave their old account

[flat rain]

I kind of wanted to be good at this game like good, but I’ll doubt that whatever happened

[cunning gull]

oh also level and rank your vbm, you'll use her a lot
get her weapon as well

its free from p2 story

just do a bit of it when you can

[flat rain]

Right now, I’m at this part in the story

So I do actually have a long way to go

And it’s a pain to do my dailies

[cunning gull]

yeah, although the first part of p2 doesn't spoil p1, there's yap but for now ur goal is to get vbm weapon so you can have an okay teammate for paws and future valks

i won't push you to do it but do remember it

[stiff wigeon]

@cunning gull focus on the front before the astral op and the back 2nd phase of the astral op

https://youtu.be/FlJe1GD5o_k?si=CaIklFD3bS8-VG32

Sorry about the horrendous quality

[cunning gull]

its alright, there was an attempt there
had you not went all in on paws i would say you should restart for better investment but i can understand if you don't, you can still improve it will just hurt for a bit since returnee stuff suck

[flat rain]

Oh, my account was always like this

I mean, I’ve tried to make a new account once and I would just just like it was just not the same

[cunning gull]

thank you, lemme compare this a bit and ill come back

[flat rain]

And B, I think that account probably got thanos snapped

https://tenor.com/view/oof-iron-man-gif-25425038

[cunning gull]

its understandable that you feel off starting with nothing and especially with long weeks for each patch but it does give a ton of return, you just need to have a lot of patience to get though
you would also wanna stay active and busy yourself with the story and you'll get a lot done

im not sure what happened to ur old account to be thanosed but you can check it with #🔌technical-help if you still wanna know

[flat rain]

No, I’m talking about my newer one. I left the old account that I have now but I think my newer one got snapped.

[cunning gull]

hmm again i would check with #🔌technical-help to see what happened

[flat rain]

I started them like 23

Haven’t touched my newer account in like a year so I think it’s gone

And I didn’t get an email because it was on my main Gmail account

[cunning gull]

i had an issue with my old acc being replaced by a new one and i checked that channel and talked to CS and they helped me

u can still ask to know the cause and if it still recoverable

[flat rain]

My HI3 account thing is this this is weird. I had the account I’m on right now and then I quit for a while and I made a new account and then I quit that account and then I came back to my main account.

[cunning gull]

unfortunately i can't help with figuring this out, i would suggest asking #🔌technical-help even if you don't want to fix it just so you would know what happened so you can avoid any issues in the future

[flat rain]

I don’t think I’m gonna be able to do this this update

https://tenor.com/view/give-up-quit-towel-stop-throw-the-towel-gif-4523258

[cunning gull]

my last message isn't about ur pulls tho... but yeah as i said just save the crystals for now since you can't do anything

you still have story to grind so its fine

[cunning gull]

sorry its late, i see ur attempt but i do notice there's a lot of changes that needs to be done that i would suggest strictly following this video https://youtu.be/K1jZ5v2JzN8
you can still start with fdd the same way you did tho
the wp for fdd in SO is not needed for hle, also u don't need to spend more time on paws
u can also try to do a trick with hle where u go for 4 basic attacks but you cancel her 4th basic animation with a hold ult, you'll know u did it successfully if you see the arrow hitting the enemy as you charge the ult, but this is optional
ofc u won't have the same attack as this user but the rotation stays the same

[arctic remnant]

Does the current event work like the previous chibi one where logging in daily was pretty much necessary? 😟

[eager smelt]

it has no dailies

but its fun so u should still play every day

[arctic remnant]

Thank you ❤️
obviously all Hi3rd events are fun just haven't found time to start yet

[idle tartan]

Can someone help 2 or 3 year retunee with getting some help with team building for MA for today? I have, like Thunder Mei, Fire Kiana, Mobius, Bronya Reason and adult, Fu Hua Herssher, etc., can any of that time teams be used?

[open bone]

Some of those era teams can still 0 second the SS MA bosses but you’re going to suffer with the SSS ones

[cunning gull]

i suggest taking a screenshot and showing these character's gear

[open bone]

Also I would need to see a battlesuit list screenshot yeah

Like there’s a bunch of differnt fire Kianas and lightning meis by now

[cunning gull]

need to know the etc as well

[idle tartan]

Cant post screens

[cunning gull]

go to #rules-en and get it from there

anyways i have my own question
been trying to use hle fdd paws ds in nirv and it has been so ass
im not comfy with my rot so i don't wanna share it unless i absolutely have to
the only thing i mainly wanna say is that i tried 1 SO with that team and it sucked sm that i ended up doing another SO
i tried s2 paws lead and it performed bad
i tried to cook with that team with 2 SO and my first SO is so delayed that i have to spend a bit out of fdd's buff to get my first SO
obv no cx and ig my atk can't cut it for nirv
anyways i would appreciate any help i can get, i saw 2 ppl in t100 and if they can get 710+ somehow then i need to do something to improve my score
im also not in the mood to cook up things on my own to be honest

[idle tartan]

• trial of love elf, if it can be used

[cunning gull]

unfortunately u can't use trial cards for endgame

show a screenshot of your stigmatas and weapons as they're important

[idle tartan]

Is there some way to compact list of them? it will be alot of screens...

[cunning gull]

u can use imgur or edit them together
mainly focus on 4*+ stuff

[idle tartan]

Like this, hm? I'm interested in anything, like no challenge, just get some crystals.

[cunning gull]

admiringly it would have been better if you edited them together but i can still work with this

[idle tartan]

I can try

[cunning gull]

that's good to know because honestly you don't exactly have a full team + characters are outdated so their performance is very low
but its workable gimme a bit

[idle tartan]

if it will be easier, weapons

stigma

[cunning gull]

its readable enough for me so i can use this as well

[wild lily]

So i watched a video of an hle showcase and realize ive been doing so little dmg, is 2 symbiosis support rlly that much of an increase?

[slow meadow]

What is the optimal rotation for BK:E in shallow sequence cause bro i just can't do enough damage 😭😭

[open bone]

Yes and no

The symbiosis support is important but probably a bunch of the rest of it is weather buffs

Both VBM and FDD are fire so you aren’t getting the full 3 pc bonus

[cunning gull]

@idle tartan okay so this is based on my best understanding of these valks and the available bosses
unfortunately i can't help with rotations as these are not characters that i use
mobius boss: hofs (no sig stig on her is a pain tho) and two of haxxor, raven and ae
otto boss: pe, hos (give her the sswords that u have), maybe ch? maybe the last slot can just be ta or si with cope stuff if you have them
deathly doom: Mobius, fr, le if you have her and i don't see her or haxxor or ae if you're not using them from the last boss

again this is quite cope by today's standard but the first 2 teams should be okay for now

[open bone]

Theoretically you could fix this by running a lightning support but it would hurt more than it helped because you don’t have any good ones , this boss is just meant to shill HLE+Paws

[cunning gull]

you do need hitcount for mobius boss but i don't have any suggestions that aren't lighting (she got res from it) or fit the team

[slow meadow]

I need help

[cunning gull]

there's a shallow sequence guide in the er pins

[idle tartan]

smth like this? Thanks, will try to, but later, have to go for some time 🙁

[cunning gull]

that will do for now so yeah!
and no worries! just know that ma closes later today

[idle tartan]

TY for help.

[cunning gull]

yw!!
anyways this is unrelated but ill bump it if there's anyone who can help me

[plucky gust]

hmmm, aladin is still BP-only right? no craft/f2p shop, right?

[cunning gull]

reserve anyone can access
the rotating one is for paid bp only

aladdin is in reserve so

[mint rivet]

is there a way to check what they are using?

elysia or vill v?

[cunning gull]

no afaik
but ppl mainly used ely
idk how many used villv now that she's available

[mint rivet]

ohk

[dark phoenix]

vill v is the best now, im using vill v

rank 2 is me btw

feel much harder to get good build now, more weapon in the pool, my run was pretty bad

[mint rivet]

oh ok

[mint rivet]

im trying to beat it but its so hard to kill the second and third bosses thats where my main struggle is

[sacred cape]

any ref for abyss without Elysia

[dark phoenix]

~~there's a whale ref without ely in #video-creations ~~

joke aside, there are a few ref without new ely but need rank and AO

[lapis raven]

he is whale anyw so it probs works for him

[dark phoenix]

https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=绯狱丸++红莲&order=pubdate
can find some of them here

[dusky mantle]

i see

[sharp girder]

I got HLE and her weapon, I have 0 crystals and I’m on pity 28

[fast dome]

do you have horb?

you mean 28 pity left or the other way around?

[sharp girder]

Left

[fast dome]

https://youtu.be/Ky6hwRhUI0E
btw can somoene help me if i can get some improvement of this run?

[arctic birch]

when is badums anniversary supply?

[fast dome]

you have enough, there's also more free pulls

[cunning gull]

carnival is tomorrow

[fast dome]

next week i think

[fast dome]

wait not next week?

[sharp girder]

Yes and her old weapon, but I don’t have her stigmatas

[cunning gull]

for reference

when the patch dropped it was around next week

[fast dome]

well just try to pull then, you surely get at least one copy of them

then you choose from the box

[cunning gull]

im not sure about the carnival supply order tho

[fast dome]

wait is not a selector banner?

[weak drum]

its not, its a rotation of different banners in a short amount of time

[arctic birch]

okay ty, i think i saw on marisa it was vita first, may be wrong tho cuz its the same order as on that picture so idk

[fast dome]

damn okay. I assume if i had hle and coralie atp, badum is the best choice right?

[cunning gull]

her or ps

both can support hle and goi valks

[fast dome]

ps? sushang?

[weak drum]

the best choice would be saving actually, if you want to pull then badum or ps, i’d go for ps just because she’s bleed and has high hc

ps’s weathers are way more cancerous to deal with compared to badum because you already have hle

[cunning gull]

yes peregrine sword

[fast dome]

well we'll see on the free pulls i am getting, hope i get it on that

[weak drum]

well goodluck then

[fast dome]

it would be a huge improvement for a new player like me

[cunning gull]

gl!

[weak drum]

stea dkey box is obtainable rn right

[cunning gull]

i believe so

[half hatch]

Should be because new event phase

[cunning gull]

im so close to getting it

[weak drum]

it would just because you get a full team

[cunning gull]

i just need to finish event rn

[arctic birch]

what dkey to get?? i have no limited dkeys only those free ones i could use thunders for mei, does it matter which one

[cunning gull]

from reserve shop or?

[arctic birch]

starry wishes

[fast dome]

ye, my current one is with vbm so xD

[cunning gull]

from the current shop hor one is the best

[weak drum]

technically soe would be best but i also would save and see btw

[cunning gull]

unless u have it alr which i assume not

[weak drum]

assuming you’re a new player, +10 atk isnt huge for you

[arctic birch]

which ones hor

[weak drum]

also all of those dkeys are not usable in the meta sense nowadays

[cunning gull]

i can't show a pic rn

[weak drum]

go to #wiki-consult i’ll help

[arctic birch]

oh ok so it doesnt matter just pick whichever?

[weak drum]

stea help whats the full name of soe

oh right star of eden

[weak drum]

it does matter

[half hatch]

It's star of Eden: anti entropy 🤓 for HoR dkey

Star of Eden is another dkey( the free dkey canon )

[weak drum]

oh thx mango ily

[cunning gull]

it can't be helped that that useless rob cannon and hor original wp makes its confusing

[weak drum]

anyways like i said, it does matter because soe:ae is currently not farmable

however i’d also definitely save the box

[arctic birch]

ohh okay i get you now

[weak drum]

again, you seem like a new player so the +10 atk wouldnt help muxh

[fast dome]

btw when is the reveal for the part 2 banners likely coming out?

[weak drum]

wdym, like 8.6?

(we’re in 8.5 rn)

you’re asking for when a new valk is revealed right

[fast dome]

no, i mean we know is hle and then coralie right

[weak drum]

wait for cn to get to it first basically

[cunning gull]

the schedule is in pins

[fast dome]

there's another like 3 weeks gaps? i think with no new info

[weak drum]

we’re just following cn’s banners

[fast dome]

ah ok then

[cunning gull]

last weeks will be updated later when cn gets it

[weak drum]

thats why in schedule there’s an artbook kek

[fast dome]

yeah this is what i was talking about, okay then

[weak drum]

its #cnonly #glblul

[cunning gull]

😔

[twilit sparrow]

how do i make the field pink

[half hatch]

You need to do two fully charged ults after you press WA x 2 so the rot is WA-> WA -> Charged ult -> swap to supports to regen SP -> WA -> WA charged ult

[twilit sparrow]

the astral op thing keeps running out before i can switch back to her tho

[half hatch]

That's weird supports shouldn't take up a lot of time

What are you doing on the supports ?

[half hatch]

Huh the SO time is very short for some reason, that's probably exclusive to the tutorial try to do the same in the tutorial where she has a full team

[twilit sparrow]

ohh okay ty

[sacred cape]

what’s the fastest way to fill bar on hofi

A weapon AA ult aa ?

[finite pivot]

Weapon puts you in Air so more like a weapon ult AA evade AA or you can do AA evade AA evade a weapon

[dusky mantle]

errr

VV build?

[finite pivot]

Do you have Tower of the past? (Vill v weapon? )

[dusky mantle]

oh sorry

i meant event

[finite pivot]

Cooldown build with laser

[dusky mantle]

no need for black hole?

[finite pivot]

No

[dusky mantle]

trying to get 10k lel

[dark phoenix]

get mk III + nuke + lamp + cd + atk and atk speed, easy 10k+

[dusky mantle]

lamp op

[dusky mantle]

and gather turrents at central statue before boss yeah?

[dark phoenix]

yes, for the big boss
go to the corners for mini boss

[dusky mantle]

oh why the corners?

[dark phoenix]

so they stay close to each other, can hit both at the same time

[dusky mantle]

hmmm

kk

[dapper roost]

is horb with the new dkey good?

[pulsar kettle]

Is vita a good support for new ely?

[weak drum]

nope, she wants teammates with the symbiosis tag

her bis is fdd

for the 2nd teammate it depends on the boss

[pulsar kettle]

i have fdd but no paws

whos next best after paws

[dusky mantle]

lamp better than sword?

[dark phoenix]

she get used more with that weapon, but probably wont be as much as a brand new valk

[dark phoenix]

good for bossing but need to stay close to the boss or she will throw it elsewhere

[mint rivet]

its better to stack around a bomb from chests for the first and second

[wild lily]

It depends on what boss and weather

[harsh phoenix]

should i still get this and put it on HoRB even if i dont have the new weapon

[edgy hamlet]

Does HLE have any specific animation cancels that cost me bunch of damage?

[cunning gull]

i only know that u can cancel her basic 4 animation by holding ult just at the end of her basic 3 animation, u know u did it right if the arrow from the basic 4 shows up
doesnt increase ur dmg but makes u a bit faster

[cunning gull]

no, the stig assumes u have her dkey otherwise all the p2 stuff will not activate

[dusky mantle]

anyone got a paws fdd hohe rot

[harsh phoenix]

ah thats too bad

[edgy hamlet]

Oh yea I just tested it and it does work but I was more curious about if I was accidentally cancelling some stuff which was costing me damage

[cunning gull]

afaik no bc the 4th basic still hits
u just skip the animation

[edgy hamlet]

ok ty, I'll integrate that in my rot somewhere then

well that got me 1 extra point

[cunning gull]

[half hatch]

You lose damage if her dome is up since her BA4 is enhanced during its duration and the cancel will still cast the normal version

Depends on the run if you need the DMG though so

[hallow orchid]

Hi guys, I'm returning after a while (I last played during the 1st patch after part 2 was released), and I'm now planning to return to the game.

Here are the valks and weapons that I have.
Which teams should I focus on now? With all the part 2 characters I'm pretty sure the meta has shifted significantly and I want to know if there's anything in my roster that'd help me to at least maintain RL on Abyss.

I'm also planning on pulling on the current Elysia (since she's the reason I'm returning lol)

[edgy hamlet]

So if I do it outside of SO, I should be ok?

[half hatch]

The dome is the buff from her WA

So it's also active outside of SO

[edgy hamlet]

o nvm then

[edgy hamlet]

just so im super sure, you mean this animation right?

[half hatch]

if i'm being honest the account does not look like it could easily maintain red lotus, may i ask if senadina has her weapon ? if so you would probably want to focus on her team so senadina/vbm/vbs, HLE can also support senadina senadina just for your information.

[cunning gull]

🙂‍↕️

[half hatch]

yeah, you see the buff you gain after the ult ? during that time the BA 4 is enhanced

[hallow orchid]

unfortunately not

if not rl thena maybe agony at least
Which team should I focus then

[fringe folio]

How to get flawless Benediction bow

[half hatch]

currently not obtainable

[edgy hamlet]

Ah alright then. ig the cancelled one was still faster than a proper BA x4 at least for the threshold I needed

[fringe folio]

When it gonna be obtainable?

[half hatch]

we currently don't have any info on it's rerun

if it's available again it will be through gacha though

[fringe folio]

Ohh

We cant buy from that white ORB thing?

I forget

[half hatch]

i wouldnt really focus on any team excessively, just look at the weather and try your best with what you currently have. Investing too much resources in already outdated teams isnt the best idea imo

[half hatch]

we can't it's not available in reserve work

[fringe folio]

Oh

[harsh phoenix]

who usually has the fastest ER clears

[weak drum]

currently the record is hofi with 20s iirc

usually just use the featured valk

most p2 valks can sub 2 min

[formal wigeon]

They're not all equal in how long those 2 minutes are tho

[weak drum]

yeah true

honestly just use vbs and call it a day

[pale palm]

Do I get anything from enabling the top one if the team don't do physical damage?

[cunning gull]

no

only phy can crit and afaik it isnt used anyways

so u end up using the phy one when u have phy valks in the team

that deals dmg

[pale palm]

finally a good score

[sacred cape]

Anyone got a brainlet 946 on Otto

960 looks like too much shit

Hoo

[dusky mantle]

20s? dang

cant be possible now

[weak drum]

yeah bc of the 30s stage rip

[dusky mantle]

aside from that idk fdd lasr patch took me like 1:16

[digital sky]

Is is SSS 4/4 23x6 all dkeys HoFi?

[weak drum]

thats the one

[violet horizon]

Where is a map with all apho 2 chests

Trying to 100% complete everything in da game

Most videos r just slow and hard to follow

[dark phoenix]

https://www.hoyolab.com/article/1937823

video is still better tbh, not like the chest are all on the ground

[violet horizon]

Tnx so much

[violet horizon]

Yea i use in conjunction but i got the treasure hunt and secret ones completed already

[dusky mantle]

i remember that one chest under the arena

[spare furnace]

U can do thelema sena lantern

Doesnt matter cause shes not the main dmg

U can check some youtube ref for rotation

https://youtu.be/Qy0jX9lW91w?si=IkBkdt4H8QpMEsan
Try follow this

[half hatch]

Thelema without weapon won't do anything

You can try
Sena + Hle + lantern/vbm
Or
Hle/hohe/ps

Ah sry I thought I read thelema

Yeah give it a try then

[spare furnace]

https://youtu.be/DD2lMBwfKyw?si=_svIJim35K_qAhM3

This video is better cause it has s0 thelema

[haughty lily]

Which teammate could replace dragon Coralie when paired with new Elysia and PAWS Helia ?

[spiral raven]

anyone that got a symbiosis tag

[haughty lily]

And what would be the best choice with the current abyss cycle ?

[quasi pier]

badum?

[haughty lily]

ok, thanks

[grave widget]

Yall use your stigma level up coupons or nah?

[eager smelt]

if u dont use it then whats the point

[quasi pier]

it's like having elixirs in rpgs. you use them for emergencies only and the emergency never comes

[eager smelt]

i just chug them and buy more later

[crude cloak]

Wouldn't HoHE be better?

Oh, wait, Symphony

[dusky mantle]

i just use them until it's the last elixir ngl

for collection

[half hatch]

The way how hohe works in SO is sadly also a bit counterproductive for HLE, since you only need to ult on supports but hohe does her CA automatically when she goes on field. You also can't just swap out after her CA because you lose shining trace if you'd do that

It's a bit sad tbh

[dusky mantle]

oh

15 card thing starts tomorrow yeah?

[crude cloak]

Well, I assume the personal damage contribution is pretty big regardless
But ye, she's slow

[half hatch]

Give hohe support some love man

[static crescent]

what do i do here

[elfin field]

is anyone else missing sp compared to the ref with HLE

[quasi pier]

buy the sand egg from pardo and use it there

[static crescent]

thanks!

[craggy plume]

Not that I noticed what ref are you following? @elfin field

[elfin field]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1MynVzpEsp/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

[dusty dagger]

What ref

[dusty dagger]

Oh

Why would you be missing sp with 2 symbiosis supports

Record and send here

[crude cloak]

No CX maybe? If adding a WA-less ult in SO

[elfin field]

the only difference may be wep +2 sync I think

[dusty dagger]

Sync doesn't give sp dude

Read the effect

[elfin field]

I did but maybe it was a roundabout or something

[dusty dagger]

Well do they have chenxue

[elfin field]

I'll record the run

[crude cloak]

Looks like they do

[dusty dagger]

[elfin field]

https://youtu.be/BI5FlJSitTo

must be a dumb mistake but I couldn't find it

[dusty dagger]

Might be something to do with the negative sp mechanic

But I won't be double checking that at 2am @crude cloak go help

The ref did an atk before going to ult btw

It also didn't go into negative sp

[elfin field]

which ult?

[dusty dagger]

Wait

Bruh I don't think they did the 7 arrow ult lmao

Nvm they did

Wtf

[elfin field]

I only see 5 either way

[half hatch]

Do you have S or SS Chenxue

[elfin field]

S, ref has S too

[half hatch]

Hm

their first ult wasnt a fully charged ult their SP was consumed 3 times so

1. time 1 arrow ult
2. time 3 arrow ult
3. time 5 arrow ult

normally you'd charge it until it consumes SP again so that you have a 7 arrow ult

they just fired their ult really close to the threshold so that the arrows already partially loaded in

[elfin field]

ah thanks

[dusty dagger]

Oh so I was right the first time

What no sleep does to a mf

[elfin field]

yea it works now

I'm also sleep deprived

[violet horizon]

Im still trying to get elysias weapon like 26 pity, but should I rather pull on seele banner before the weapon there runs out

Cux elysia is here for like 6 weeks.... I bought 2 monthlys

[normal cloak]

Exalted MA Refs for 10/28/2025 - 11/02/2025 [Invite Link Here if channels are unknown](#💁gameplay-help message)
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[steady osprey]

note that two banners share the same pity so if u get one weapon the other banner will reset to 0 pity too

[split wigeon]

Should i get HoRe and her new gear for my new elysia team

HoRe is herrcher seele right..

[steady osprey]

iirc atp there is no way for u to get HoRb valk card

[weak drum]

there is if you spend 30 bucks (26 if you buy individual packs)

[split wigeon]

In the shop thingy there is

Its a bundle where you can choose finality reason rebirth or meis

Not thunder but the other one

[steady osprey]

i see

in the mall

[split wigeon]

What is meis called

[steady osprey]

its not worth the money

origin

[split wigeon]

Ahh

Well money isint rlly a problem

I just need to know if they work together

[steady osprey]

they do

horb can support hle

[split wigeon]

Cause i only have like 3 part 2 charectors

[steady osprey]

and vice versa

[split wigeon]

Being hle sena and the 2 a ranks

Who is the next banner after elysia

[boreal eagle]

guys help how to 0sec doom with this?

[half hatch]

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV16yJyzfEUr

[steady osprey]

after hle is not announced but next week we have a carnival banner with 4 valks

[split wigeon]

Whats carnival banner

Im very new

[steady osprey]

carnival is the banner where u can choose the valk u will pull

[split wigeon]

Ohhh

[steady osprey]

among 4

[split wigeon]

Who is it

[steady osprey]

vita badum sparkle sushang

[split wigeon]

Well dang

Idk if i should get Horb then

[weak drum]

unless you’re a simp for her or is a nirv player then no reason to get dkey + buy horb from the 30 usd box

[split wigeon]

Alright so i should just wait for carnival banner?

[weak drum]

i’d recommend not pulling on carnival too

[split wigeon]

Oh?

[weak drum]

if you’re thinking of getting the valks for a meta reason

[steady osprey]

well they said money not problem though

[weak drum]

oh really?

[split wigeon]

I mean to a extent

[weak drum]

there we go

how big is the budget (please spend very responsibly)

[split wigeon]

I gotta drop 300$ on cyrene on hsr

[weak drum]

i’d recommend getting badum and ps from carnival if you have the funds to afford both of them

[split wigeon]

Ps?

And this is for hle team

[steady osprey]

ps is sushang

[split wigeon]

Ohhh

So that would be hle best team?

[weak drum]

yeah badum ps are both goi valks, they can support her, there are better options like fdd (rerunning on week 4 iirc? and she’s hle’s bis) but ps covers a niche that not many can, bleed + hitcount

[split wigeon]

Fdd?

[weak drum]

dragon coralie, glossary is in #👶beginner-help pins fyi

[split wigeon]

Oh thank you

And what about astral ops

[weak drum]

ps’s ability to cover said niches is why i’d recommend her

[weak drum]

for hle its chenxue

(for any lurkers, only recommending him this because he is spending)

[split wigeon]

Is that the one out rn

[weak drum]

currently yes

[split wigeon]

Okok

[half hatch]

They're not GoI Valks just GoI supports 🤓

[split wigeon]

Thank you guys

So i pull for chenxue badum and ps/fdd

[weak drum]

my bad

was too busy fighting with ron

[weak drum]

if possible then all 3 of the valks, if not then ask us again, since fdd badum is actually hle’s bis valks for sd abysses (sd is stardust)

[weak drum]

reminder for any lurkers

dont want yall to see this and assume its 100% fine for yall to pull these

[split wigeon]

What about future proofing her do we think there will be better valks coming soon for hle?

[weak drum]

definitely

honestly they could just say fuck it and release hle’s new bis in 8.6

hoyo works in mysterious ways

[split wigeon]

So im gonna pull for chenxue and then when carnival comes who should i prioritize

Badum first?

[weak drum]

hmghe prio-ing @half hatch save me im disappearing bc idk how to answer this

[weak drum]

context: whaling and is pulling valks for hle + cover weathers

[crude cloak]

idk about getting both Badum and PS

Better to get FDD instead of one of them if whaling

[weak drum]

stretching it too much?

true

[crude cloak]

I'd do it instead of Badum

But getting even 1 valk from 0 is very expensive

[weak drum]

oh yeah i forgot to tell him this @split wigeon

[crude cloak]

And definitely don't pull Chenxue at your investment level xdd

!faq gachaop

[weak drum]

wait i fogor to even ask the most important one

[crude cloak]

Oh come on

[night parcel]

Should I Pull AstralOps?

NOO CAPTAIN!

If you are a f2p meta player, you should not pull gacha AstralOps - only players who are retaining or trying to retain Nirvana should consider it if they have the funds (unlikely for f2p players).

Reasons:

• Dreamseeker is good enough despite being free.
• Too expensive, especially if they need SS (~20-30k).
  • AstralOps have the same cost as a gacha weapon, therefore pulling one may result in being unable to afford a Valkyrie's weapon down the line (for meta players, this means skipping said Valkyrie entirely).
• The damage and score increase they provide in Redlotus and below is often minimal and not needed to retain.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[weak drum]

how much will they spent lmfao

@split wigeon i dont think you mentioned your budget

[split wigeon]

See i dont really know but i have first time topup bonuses

[weak drum]

what about a rough estimate

200?

[split wigeon]

Yeah

[weak drum]

starting from complete 0 right

[half hatch]

Also make sure to op up over the website, there's a visa 20% discount going on

[split wigeon]

I mean around there

[split wigeon]

Epic rewards better

[weak drum]

yeah nvm i thought your budget was wayy bigger lmao

i’d just save til fdd reruns and get her yeah

calendar so you can see when

week 5 not 4 thats my bad

[split wigeon]

💔💔💔

[weak drum]

sorry for giving you false hope

i helped calc the cost of buying packs and stuffs for a whale (no 1st time bonus) and it’d cost him like 185 bucks just to afford a valk + weap with reduced pity

[split wigeon]

How much crystals is a valk from zero

[weak drum]

42k

not counting in free pulls or discounted or anything because fdd’s banner will be a rerun not a debut banner

[split wigeon]

My luck cant be that bad

[steady osprey]

42 is max

[weak drum]

surely

[split wigeon]

I got hle in 30 and her equipment in 20

[weak drum]

usually (please dont lean into this too much and be disappointed if the rng gods destroy your pulls) it costs a player like 30k for a valk + weap iirc

oh nvm its 30k from the faq

[steady osprey]

"average" is 106 pull

[split wigeon]

How much is 100$ worth of crystals

[weak drum]

13.2k crystals or 45 pulls with abit leftover (assuming you have 1st time bonus ofc)

if not then its 6.6k

i recommend buying the bchips packs too btw

some of the cheaper ones are really good crystals value

[split wigeon]

Let me do some calculations real quick

I still have most of my starter bundles

[weak drum]

the level bundles are pretty good too

[split wigeon]

17 valk tickets
13 equipment tickets
2,380 crystals for 50$

Just from starter bundles

[finite barn]

Does carnival rotation start tomorrow?

[steady osprey]

start monday yes

[subtle swift]

guys any idea for HoRB teams? i don't have vita nor the new ely

also very dumb question but gotta ask anyway

Kiana outfit will not count the xtals spent here, right?

[open bone]

Show list of part 2 battlesuits

[subtle swift]

Sure, give me a min

there are all in this list

[open bone]

Definitely hofi for sure

[mortal jetty]

Horb hofi badum

[open bone]

And then you could try Badum I think

But some others might have advantages depending on boss

Yeah

[subtle swift]

oh! perfect, i wanted to use kiana more, so its nice!

thank you!

[open bone]

NP

[unreal parrot]

should i buy thelema stamps (i have her S2) or just buy anything

[neon narwhal]

can read the spending event pin

#👶beginner-help

[unreal parrot]

oop- thanks! didnt know there was a ping

[neon narwhal]

feel free to ask if it's still not clear

[tidal moss]

hey guys how r we getting 10000 points in the new event ˚✧₊⁎❝᷀ົཽ≀ˍ̮ ❝᷀ົཽ⁎⁺˳✧༚

[latent stream]

Should I get Thelema for new Ely?

[neon narwhal]

Thel doesn't support new Ely, the reverse is possible but Thel has been out of the dps role for quite a while AND she's heavily reliant on you having her weapon to make it work

^^ Assuming we're talking about Hi Love Elf and not HoHe with her divine key

[latent stream]

Yeah

Then I'll get ely elf then

[nimble bolt]

With character i have rn, can you guys help me decide whether i should go for Vita/Badum weapon/Sushang weapon? Or maybe just save for future character?

[open bone]

How many crystals do you have

[nimble bolt]

Rn about 8k

[open bone]

I would toss the 20 fee pulls at vita and then save for next patch

Could also justify sparkle if you wanted tho

[nimble bolt]

Alrr

Thankss

How long till the banner come out?

[open bone]

Carnival is tomorrow but I don’t remember what banners are up when

[shell quail]

can check in-game announcement, it should have the banner schedules

[digital sky]

Vita PS -> Sparkle Badum -> Vita PS -> Sparkle Badum

[dark phoenix]

use vill v, get mk III, nuke, lamp, cd, atk, atk speed
max out her signature before the first boss
that's the strat, just need to play it perfectly

[tidal moss]

tysm will try this inabit (=´∀｀)人(´∀｀=)

[eager smelt]

im at 10.2k for 2nd area, 1st area can 10k but its very very hard (and different strat)
set up ur turrets beforehand, around 20 seconds before
1st boss sit by the statue and set up turrets, pop statue once they spawn and u should be able to kill at 2260
2nd and 3rd boss set up at a corner
4th boss set up to the right of the statue and use statue on 1st phase, use ult when the timer says 1 second

10k on 2nd area is pretty easy since the bosses are all squishy

[tidal moss]

wow thanks that helps a lot i'll test that since ive been wondering if 10k is possible on 1st since no one on sea serv has done it yet

ive been stuck in 9.4k in both for so long ｡ﾟ(ﾟ´ω`ﾟ)ﾟ｡

[eager smelt]

10k is possible but its just too stupid
u need to roll the perfect abilities then have them perfectly timed or else u kill too slow

and then the 3rd boss usually kills the run

[tidal moss]

rozaliya too op T_T but ive been playing the new event the whole day so its worth a shot

[eager smelt]

the issue is u need both rosa and hov to use a specific atk so their positions line up

and then u need to kill fast enough before rosa leaves

rng too big

[tidal moss]

mayb soon aponia or durandal can clear 10k easy ong

[eager smelt]

no

[tidal moss]

Oh nah

[eager smelt]

vill v is the best char

the only thing u get later is a free refresh

which wont help on boss atk patterns

[tidal moss]

yeah and one whole run is like ~11min so its hard to do it again without losing motivationn But i got dis in the bag

priority is to clear 10k 2nd area or im a flop forever

[eager smelt]

10k 2nd area is easy

[tidal moss]

i think ive just been doing something wrong

[eager smelt]

u do know where all the chests are right

u need to plan out ur route

so u can collect the chests, make it to the trial on time, then in position for the boss

oh wait theres not even an extra refresh coming next

yikes 3 is the limit

so if u want the 10k u should do it before maxing out the chars in 3 days

[tidal moss]

i do that but i never tried using the nuke coz im always tempted to get aoe coz the mob keeps killing me

[eager smelt]

or else the weapon pool will increase and raise the rng

[tidal moss]

oh ure righttt

[eager smelt]

how are u dying to mobs

[tidal moss]

im a flop

[elfin parrot]

do i dare ask for another awawa video guide lol

[eager smelt]

ive only optimized the route for area 1

area 2 im still figuring out

oh fuck the fastest boss 1 is 2275 not 2260

[left summit]

i got horb new divine key and leveled it to 50 how do i turn it into a pri-arm?

[eager smelt]

press upgrade

[left summit]

whci hbutton, tune or synergize?

[eager smelt]

tune first then upgrade

[steady osprey]

synergize is when u have another copy/dupe

[swift osprey]

Hi do you guys have some sort of tierlist for all types or battlesuit. Idk if I should prioritise on upgrading Val ranger or white comet , aren't they just the same in strength ? ( I mean on equal rank and lvl )

[eager smelt]

tier lists arent a thing in this game

wheres the faq tierlist

[steady osprey]

there is no tier list in gacha game because powercreep/the newer character will always be stronger to make u buy them

though among the old farmable A rank there are indeed better ones