💁gameplay-help

[weak drum]

ugehgeuhg this ma suxxx

oh akayuki sss'd his hle

[deft creek]

mobius is kinda ez but when i hit otto to his final form my game crashed smh 💀

[weak drum]

whats your mobi's score

[eager smelt]

mobius easy is crazy

i sat there with trash score because i didnt want to dodge

[weak drum]

im dying trying to 904

can we have a braindead one like pischacha pwease

i wanna 2s without using my brain pweaseee

holy shit i hate this

[deft creek]

47.3k

i use the lantern team

[weak drum]

yeahhhh, i see why you said mobius was easy

you see, i wanna get 47904

if i use lamp then imma just be lazy and idk get like 47.7k instead

[deft creek]

for me i havent got into high top anytime i js landing in around 15%-20%

[weak drum]

i think its just because you dont know how to do the bosses

[deft creek]

ye prob ( almost ion have the top team for the MA bosses )

[weak drum]

you dont need to have the top teams to get a good score

[deft creek]

my score for everyboss always lay around 43-44k this is prob my first time hitting 47k

[stray flax]

are these affixes alright?

do they need improvement?

[spiral raven]

all atk only

[eager smelt]

no

[spiral raven]

crit rate does nothing, crit dmg only for physical

sp reduce does nothing

[stray flax]

i knew it

someone gaslit me to have these affixes

[weak drum]

they’ve already told you what to do so imma just give some general infos:
elemental valks can not crit, like their dmg is just that, no crit

[hoary grove]

Is HoRb’s dk actually worth? I don’t have any physical dps from pt2

[weak drum]

i wouldnt rely on places like google, reddit, or room 1 ingame for help relating to this

[stray flax]

sadly it was a close friend of mine who made me do it 😔 the betrayal ah

[weak drum]

next time just ask here then

[stray flax]

thank you for the knowledge, I'll fix these right away
I'll get all ATK affixes

[digital sky]

What teams prefer
4* kiana elf over SS||(S)|| Dreamseekerop, S songqueop, S teriop, and S Seraop?

[weak drum]

it depends on your current crystals situation + do you actually have horb + the supports for her + being able to gather enough funds for next patch’s valk

[spiral raven]

sd or bow atk

[weak drum]

iirc sparkle (idk if its all weathers, probs not) t1’d with 4* kiaelf

also alot of teams prefer 4* kia over those base S rank aops

it just depends on the rot

[digital sky]

Except teriop basically right?

[weak drum]

ye bc of the double shift, s chen too

[green plank]

Does Horb rotation change with divine key, and does she still work with HoS and TA?

[weak drum]

yes and no

[hoary grove]

Im saving for Kiana skin, but i can get a weapon due to how high my pity is rn. And i already have her, idk abt her supports tho

[weak drum]

anyone with a world star tag, preferably hle and badum

[green plank]

Uh are there any f2p teams or do I need elysia/vita

[weak drum]

f2p in what sense, all farmable costing no crystals at all?

[green plank]

Yes

[weak drum]

because as a f2p you can still, yk, pull

[weak drum]

A coralie A helia have fun with them

[green plank]

I used crystals on divine key so now I poor 😭

[green plank]

Uhoh

[weak drum]

just give me a ss of your roster

[spiral raven]

purely farmaable team not rly viable, game expects s0+1

[green plank]

Uh how (sry its been a while i just login)

[stray flax]

btw do these HLE teams seem good to you?

[weak drum]

get in the game, take a screenshot, send it here

[green plank]

Uh ok!

[weak drum]

just exclusively use badum hohe if that’s all you got, dont even bother with A cora

[green plank]

Like that?

[weak drum]

yeah thanks alot lemme see

[hoary grove]

Hummm, i have both of them but HLe is missing her weapon

[weak drum]

horb sena sparkle goodluck

[hoary grove]

Im using HoHe’s dk on her

[weak drum]

pull for it then

[green plank]

Is that bad 2 use :I compared to vita/elysia i close to hard pity for elysia

[weak drum]

beggars cant be choosers and yes it wont perform as well as hle badum, also just pull for hle and weapon (stop when you get weap even if you’re missing stig), dont bother with pulling for vita nowadays

when you get the free 20 pulls from carnival, just dump it on PS

[green plank]

Ok

[green plank]

What's PS

[weak drum]

glossary in #👶beginner-help pins

[green plank]

Oh

[weak drum]

peregrine sword, p2 sushang

have a freebie on the house

[green plank]

ty

[weak drum]

https://youtu.be/xEa5MjAHojQ?si=FZzdt1Ii9qTITyhz wait this rot is actually pretty easy

888 i’ll take that any day

[spiral raven]

not meant to be hard

but u can surely do 904

[formal wigeon]

'tis truly cutscene impact 3rd

[stray flax]

i see... i also have Vita and Thelema (but both weaponless) can they be used with HLE and Ba-Dum! ?

[spiral raven]

thank loa, although man new ely feels bad

[formal wigeon]

isn't that not loa tho ?

[spiral raven]

oh

i more so just meant the actual gameplay of holding ult tapping wa holding ult

is really exciting

[spiral raven]

new ely is goi

[craggy ivy]

The feedback feels off

Idk how to explain

[spiral raven]

yea

[tiny mountain]

every time i try to do ER i cant progress the story. any help? idk how to progress!

[digital sky]

Check #👶beginner-help pins (at the bottom)

[tiny mountain]

thank youuuu

[dusty dagger]

[Click here for a list of codes for v8.5!](#🎮honkai-chat message)

[runic lion]

i will always stay second to awawa

[dark phoenix]

so competitive, it's pretty chill here

[vernal terrace]

Malding the event

[runic lion]

i declare war on awawa

[runic lion]

im in rl rn what else am i gonna do

[runic lion]

whats top sea score

[dark phoenix]

[runic lion]

LMAOOOO

[runic lion]

ok so some guidance so you can improve sea:
you NEED to max sig before first boss
best loadout is smart barrage/sword/lantern

off-stat best is cooldown

try to position yourself as shooting both enemies at the same time

[dark phoenix]

ik, saw 9690 ref on bilibili, just too lazy to retry

[vernal terrace]

Mald Abyss

[shell quail]

you're going against the malder

wdyt

[runic lion]

but it's rl

ill t1 without trying more likely

[cunning gull]

~~if more ppl focus on malding event instead of abyss maybe i can retain ~~

[runic lion]

i got literal 69th on myriad just to demote

[vernal terrace]

Nice number

[open bone]

That’s rough buddy

[spiral raven]

tbf , ranking aside, the score itself prob could be improved a lot more

full s0+1 can get u like 770ish at 553d

[cunning gull]

damn 69th on eu is 21639
but yeah like what afklord said

[mint rivet]

tuff

[spiral raven]

i feel like on one hand its like yea, scoring relatively high rank on myriad doesn't mean retain for you guys,
but on the other hand, its like the minimum score to enter myriad for other servers are much higher, so it looks harder to retain for you guys

[runic lion]

was late

[runic lion]

yeah but the overall population should scale 🥀

[stiff wigeon]

Does elysia’s bouquet of flowers do anything

[runic lion]

t50 would be me actually being awake for the cycle

[cunning gull]

its for collection for now

[runic lion]

normally asleep would be retain for me in nirv

[stiff wigeon]

Shouldve made it into a emblem ngl

[cunning gull]

there's an emblem in the event so there's that

[spiral raven]

now thats next lvl sleep,

[cunning gull]

currently my bracket are all using bis team, no funny shenanigans yet, i need to stop saying that but i am cooked

[stiff wigeon]

Is it worth it to build miss pink elf for fun? I have a bunch of excess mats

[cunning gull]

ideally no cuz you might need it but if you'll give her cheap stuff then sure

[stiff wigeon]

I just need one more high grade weapon to get her weapon in foundry

[runic lion]

that's how that works 💀
this only happens to begin with becausue myriad has the same amount of slots but the populations are different 🥀

[cunning gull]

wait what weapon do u mean

[mint rivet]

im not doubting you i havent even ever been there im only lvl 40

[stiff wigeon]

Her sig weapon

[cunning gull]

oh

but the one in the foundry is priarm
so u need to get the normal wp first

[runic lion]

if anything

retain in sea is probably similar but myriad is harder (for nirv)

[stiff wigeon]

How much mats to upgrade a regular stig?

[runic lion]

on a server that has more people

[stiff wigeon]

I think i should just put hohe’s old weapon on her

[mint rivet]

is sea easier or is eu easier

[runic lion]

eu dist easier
eu myriad easier

im NA

but apples and oranges

[stiff wigeon]

Sea is hardest across all games for some reason

[runic lion]

it’s entirely a population scaling issue

[runic lion]

that honor goes to kr

or cn ios

[mint rivet]

sad

[cunning gull]

i don't have faq for that but i have for priarm #💁gameplay-help message

[runic lion]

what was t100 myriad on sea

last cycle

[cunning gull]

if u have it leveled that's fine
not the best for her but for budget scenarios that's more than fine

[mint rivet]

they should let everyone have access to ai chans commands💔

[cunning gull]

its fine u can search it using the search button

otherwise u can forward or link it like me

[mint rivet]

yeah but still would be nice

[runic lion]

can anyone share?

uwu

[cunning gull]

oh well, dunno if that will happen
it will prob cause spam but yeah

[stray flax]

now better rolls?

[mint rivet]

im not there yet😔

[weak drum]

i’d definitely spam the shit out of it

[runic lion]

ches

[weak drum]

yes

[runic lion]

what was t100 myriad everyones gatekeeping

[weak drum]

current t100 or last t100 bc im clueless last t100

[runic lion]

last

[weak drum]

yeah im useless

[cunning gull]

!faq ches

[runic lion]

it shows

[weak drum]

oh? ogey brb

[stiff wigeon]

Should i buy mpe’s stigs at exchange house?

[runic lion]

🥀

[weak drum]

what’s the reason behind this

just a simp thing?

[stiff wigeon]

Completing the holy elysia shrine

[stiff wigeon]

Yeappp

[weak drum]

help im blind

[runic lion]

nawww theres a last cycle tab on the leaderboard

[weak drum]

sure, it’d definitely be faster than farming it in foundry, you’ll need 18k reso for the set btw

[mint rivet]

jst ss it

[cunning gull]

for budget cases just use what u alr have leveled
for casual cases sure get it from the exchange shop, will need u to convert cheap g1 wps tho

[runic lion]

im loading the game now 🥀

[weak drum]

ok thx im gatekeeping it (772)

it was bmo too

[cunning gull]

there's reserve but idk you'll def have better use of that
even for a casual

[weak drum]

full s0 smh poverty hit bmo

[runic lion]

na population is cooked

[weak drum]

what was na’s t100 lmao

[runic lion]

our t100 is 699

[weak drum]

naur

naurrrr

[runic lion]

which is why myriad demotes are common

t50s here cant even guarantee t5

[mint rivet]

insane

[runic lion]

🥀

[weak drum]

im debating whether i should re-enter my nirb arc this patch

[runic lion]

just do it

[cunning gull]

last cycle t100 for eu is 21739 if u want it

[weak drum]

b-but

[weak drum]

no wey eu more aliv???

[cunning gull]

[stiff wigeon]

I refreshed 100 times not a single ely stig this shit normal??

[weak drum]

the exchange shop has a ton of stigs so

they dont really remove old stuffs from it

they just keep on piling it in

[cunning gull]

oh actually u can get it from foundry too
dunno if its too expensive or not but its there
sorry i forgot to mention

[weak drum]

very expensive, its a g4

starting from 0 thats almost 6 months of active farming

[stiff wigeon]

Its expensive plusim lazy to wait for it i dont have use for the exchange house mats too

[runic lion]

before u get the ely stig
this is like never used anymore but if u care about ma there’s newtb and mei ppm

(idk what runs even use this)

[weak drum]

its a simp thing

[stiff wigeon]

Play the game long enough to have extra mats to buy whatever i guess

[tacit oasis]

Any1 know what kind of placeholder weapon to use on new ely battlesuit until I get her bis

[mint rivet]

hohe weap

[cunning gull]

what do you have?

[spiral raven]

sea d is not that high, its just higher compared to global xd

also dont take d as anything else other than that mobs are harder, it dont reflect the competitiveness of the server

highest d is kr

[tacit oasis]

The dkey or original one

[weak drum]

dkey

[cunning gull]

both should be same and are just a cope until u get the sig
just use wtv is leveled

[tacit oasis]

Both of HoHe's weapons max pri arm and crescent

[runic lion]

with na the reason why myriads demote is because
myriad stays the same size
so the gate is lower
but
you then get trapped in a bracket with more myriads

[spiral raven]

good

[weak drum]

schewpid kr, their a3 is probs 520 or smt stupid atp

[mint rivet]

my hle lowkey uses the base weapon

[runic lion]

t50 does not even get you t5 bracket oftentimes

[tacit oasis]

Alrr

[weak drum]

basically its an invites only club in na

[cunning gull]

u can use old hoh wp if u still wanna use hoh and ur lazy to switch
but in won't matter too much

[runic lion]

it is crazy

but then placing high in myriad becomes trivial

[spiral raven]

ik why myriad demote, but my point is, your score wasn't that high for full s0 anyways if you had the full team,
like im saying for what you could've done
ignoring your placement on myriad,
you prob didn't do enough

[runic lion]

yeah because i was sleeping

because i have other things to do

but nirv retain is usually sleep territory for me

[spiral raven]

and yeah that's fair, but my point is, dont use myraid placement as a reasoning ig

[runic lion]

naww it is still expected to retain before myriad in na

[spiral raven]

ig, thats kinda copiujm to me

[tacit oasis]

Yeah I'll use it since I still use hoh for er and some abyss stages

[runic lion]

ur kinda being rude anyways because it’s like im not even bragging about my score or anything

you can’t sea is harder your way out of something that looks like it wouldnt happen on paper being funny to point out

[spiral raven]

well im just kind of stating facts but sure bro

[mint rivet]

dont fight youngsters!

[runic lion]

who asked though

im not even trying to be snappy in this case it’s just like

[spiral raven]

i just wanted to point it out seeing that you posted it in a gameplay help channel

if u posted other channels sure

[runic lion]

🥀 i casually brought it up as a reason to slack rl and do the event instead

[spiral raven]

oh mb then ig

[loud lynx]

idk if this is the right channel but if i have new elysia and new seele fully built… what returning character do i pull for as the 3rd teammate? vita is the recommended option but i see people running sushang too

[open bone]

Vita is the better support for new Seele but that’s pretty much all she does these days so I would try and get Badum from carnival instead

[spiral raven]

both good, ps or badum, ps hitcount/bleed, badum sd
but ig hle does do ok in sd, but not having badum is a big diff in nirv
ps prob better to pull
oh u odn thave htird teammate
yea i can see badum then

[runic lion]

if we’re gonna troll though, na event t3 harder (who tf malds event),

[spiral raven]

nah u guys do mald event a lot harder, impressive

[tacit oasis]

what was the sena trio rotation again?

[spiral raven]

sena trio is who

[runic lion]

tbh it’s really just awawa

[tacit oasis]

senadina, normal coralie and helia

[runic lion]

this is the first time i’ve grinded the event

🥀

[open bone]

Badum is also a Horb support which is why I suggested

But yeah PS also good

[runic lion]

wait a second did bp roll us around to people randomly having sena trio again

[spiral raven]

u can check the tutorials, i think it might cover it, but, have a go at looking youtube for a feel ig

but man it would be rly old refs

[spiral raven]

i was thinking of only missing those two, but yea that person if lacks more, badum more value

[tacit oasis]

i love the sena trio i still use it to this day🥹🥹

[spiral raven]

fits name well

[runic lion]

more people should mald the event

i promise it’s fun

[open bone]

I got 25th and then decided to sleep

[mint rivet]

what evebt

[loud lynx]

yeah for part 2 valks i only have sena trio, seele and new ely… will be getting thelema from the event i guess

[runic lion]

join t10

shockingly doable

[full trench]

this has not been my experience

[open bone]

Hmm I will give it another run. Who were you using? I was just spamming attack / attack speed up with Ely

[runic lion]

loadout is
ely/smart barrage/lantern/sword
max sig before first boss or reset

[mint rivet]

let me try

[runic lion]

save ult for boss
try to line up to where ushoot both bosses at once

[open bone]

I will try

oh got demoted to 28 by now anyway def gotta fix

[runic lion]

obv dont need to save ult until right before boss but do have jt before boss

[mint rivet]

do u wanna clear maximum enemies in bw bosses or

like just chill out

or like roam around and get chests

[runic lion]

you want it but just for resource farm

no bearing on result

[mint rivet]

okey

[normal belfry]

what do I use MA coin for? Do I 3S my currently highest rank valk then farm for dupe shop?

[dark phoenix]

MA coin?

[runic lion]

nawww -10 my max

[runic lion]

war treasury

[tribal merlin]

if i got new elys weapon and stigmata what do i pull for next? i only have the mc astral op or chenxue good for her?

[runic lion]

a lv 40 player is gonna rule the event leaderboards

calling it now

[mint rivet]

thanks thats surely aimed at me

im lvl 40

[weak drum]

what if its awa's alt

mindblown

[runic lion]

no cuz its sea

[weak drum]

oh nvm yeah he hackin

sea aint got no malders in events

[runic lion]

well im 50 points below

[dark phoenix]

can either unlock valk for ER or SSS them up for witch orb

[runic lion]

got ruined

[runic lion]

amaldwa

[weak drum]

why do abyss when events

[normal belfry]

does witch orb have newest valks?

[weak drum]

you wish

[spiral raven]

up to hofi

[normal belfry]

So like BP eh

Ig ER I go then

[spiral raven]

well way more accessible than bp

[open bone]

now in 6th

[weak drum]

not every valks (up to hofi)are in it btw^

[runic lion]

alright now mald even more
join t3 or even surpass me

[open bone]

nah im good with 6

[runic lion]

fair

[weak drum]

not me being contempt with 42% lmfao

[runic lion]

the sea leaderboards are not ready for nexxolno

[spiral raven]

be 100%

[weak drum]

nexxo is just gonna 10k

show them he's different fr

[runic lion]

nexxolno will change lives

[weak drum]

wait a second

[mint rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-agree-yes-gif-23902686

[weak drum]

nexxo what level are you again

[mint rivet]

40

[weak drum]

please be below 26 i literally have it on speeddial

[spiral raven]

half the players dont even know theres a leaderboard

[weak drum]

nvm
sadge

[runic lion]

you dont need brains for this event

[mint rivet]

but i have one…

[runic lion]

ok cool

[weak drum]

too busy dying to mobius evade mald and symp fox chen ranks check

[runic lion]

remember the loadout and remember to shoot through both enemies
good luck

[spiral raven]

i mean u got the 888 at least right

[mint rivet]

yk i might spend the whole day trying 😭

[normal belfry]

There's no P2 valk yet right? Is there a link about this topic? Like if I wanna maximize orb, do I go for soul or fragment, and the income every patch ect?

[runic lion]

you can do it i believe in u

[weak drum]

no

[weak drum]

same thing

if you wanna maximize orb then just max out wt and buy everything there

[mint rivet]

thank you

[weak drum]

gonna take you like 50 years tho

[spiral raven]

income is like 1.1k for only maxing out 2 to 3 chars?
not bad

[runic lion]

i listen to lectures about religious history while i mald event

[weak drum]

unless they are desperate for locks like me

i went from 5k aw to barely scrapping by every 9 weeks

[spiral raven]

i dont bother buying locks

[mint rivet]

i listen to random japanese music

[weak drum]

the gambling is too hard to pass up on

[weak drum]

i listen to romance pop

to mald everything actually

dont have ingame sound fr

[normal belfry]

How many frag can I buy with 1k1? Like Hofi for example

[weak drum]

none

[spiral raven]

u need 2.5k

[runic lion]

i listen to music but these days ive been watching lectures

🥀 🥀 🥀

[mint rivet]

insane

[weak drum]

quick ss of the prices

[spiral raven]

every 5 weeks u get abou 2 stamps. is quite op

[runic lion]

guaymas moment

[weak drum]

gotta agree with mimi on this one pie

oh wait

[runic lion]

what

this is lightning guaymas

[weak drum]

actually yeah gotta agree with mimi on this one

[runic lion]

brickadina dps

[weak drum]

yeah dogshit boss

[normal belfry]

3 patches for 1 stamp is crazy

[spiral raven]

what

[mint rivet]

WAIT

YOU PLAY PIXEL HEROES?

wtf

[weak drum]

yes nexxo, took you long enough to realize me lmao

[runic lion]

i malded this more than i malded hos 🥀

[spiral raven]

3 weeks is enough

[weak drum]

why did you leave the sea discord server btw

[mint rivet]

wait thats insane holy shit thats so rare

[weak drum]

and now im helping you in hi3

[normal belfry]

Ohh so 1k1 is like u hav 3 valks at SSS, trade for 3 weeks then get 1 stamps
Is dat right

[runic lion]

actually garbage

[mint rivet]

i left like all servers at one point also sea got like very boring no one to talk to

[weak drum]

i just couldnt bear myself

[weak drum]

yeah fair point

[spiral raven]

yea

i dont know exactly how much, i also buy out senti frags

[weak drum]

anyways can someone like sponsor me 3s chen

i wanna do nirv techs in rl

[mint rivet]

very nice i actually dont remember you at all unless you went by something else in that server

[weak drum]

i went by triches and thats all

[mint rivet]

very nice

[weak drum]

only joined jake's server for the guides lmao

[runic lion]

lightning guaymas is genuinely so terrible

[spiral raven]

p1 ass yea

[weak drum]

all of them are

[runic lion]

no but you have to use sena dps

[weak drum]

gimme one good gaymass rn

[runic lion]

so it’s extra bad

[weak drum]

thats right, you cant

[mint rivet]

if u still play u can ask me questions in dms anytime

[runic lion]

like legit

[weak drum]

ty alot

[runic lion]

that last jump to activate disabled is right in senas sequence

[normal belfry]

Ty all for info

[runic lion]

so if you’re off by a second it’s joever

[spiral raven]

sena is ok for me, we not fighting against the 36 mob cycle, that is ass, and the rot for low dmg peeps like me is like kinda set in stone with not much rooms to change

[spiral raven]

fps moment

[runic lion]

i run uncapped

[spiral raven]

yeah but how muhc

[runic lion]

500

[spiral raven]

are u s0

[runic lion]

s2

[spiral raven]

so same rot basically

[weak drum]

also its sena so its extra extra shit

[spiral raven]

well if u got 500 fps, it should be quite lenient acutally

i went to the internet cafe to mald it, and i had to wait a bit

[runic lion]

not if senas anim is

still goin

[spiral raven]

yea but should be finished

i jump too early lol

[runic lion]

yeah no im barely making it

[spiral raven]

interesting

[runic lion]

what valks as ur supports

[spiral raven]

badum vita

[weak drum]

hopes and dreams

[runic lion]

im fdd vita

wait no im not im badum vita

[spiral raven]

fdd for sena?

[runic lion]

lol for amnesia

[spiral raven]

yea then we should be same rot

[runic lion]

my vitas s2

which i just realized omg her stupid time fracture was probably on

[spiral raven]

doesn;t change too much, u just kill earlier

[runic lion]

what was ur score

[spiral raven]

808 or something

i did two runs

very nice

[runic lion]

mine was like 802
but i also run kiaelf

[spiral raven]

im kiaelf as well

[runic lion]

what rank is ur sena

[spiral raven]

s2

[runic lion]

i just realized this bs

[oblique quest]

guys how to advance in story i just finished the part where bronya becomes herrscher of truth

[runic lion]

[spiral raven]

idk how much does the tf change the rot, if anything it makes his stuff slower

[runic lion]

yeah that sucks

[spiral raven]

but yeah maybe

[runic lion]

actually

because im jumping the attack before sena does her final in the chain

it legit ruins a lot of bosses

homu performer is like that too

[runic lion]

u want his final jump to come faster so u kill faster no?
if u delay it cuz of tf it sucks

s2 vita skill dreadful in abyss

[spiral raven]

so normally the jump occurs before u finish the last hit of weap
, if it gets delayed u just get the weap off instead then jump
, i dont think it should change anything becuz afterwards is the hitcount

which then sena ults -> vita do hitcount until 2 stack

[runic lion]

nawww i was doing it right before the last hit

[spiral raven]

sounds like same timing honestly

[runic lion]

it was so inconsistent for me bc

it could jump right before

i finish second to last

[spiral raven]

i see, idk, u would have to have it recordded
p2 for me was very consistent

[runic lion]

and then senas stalled and cant do shit

because shes just finishing the anim

[spiral raven]

https://tenor.com/view/wuthering-waves-phoebe-thinking-interesting-gif-2378383855298051985

[runic lion]

https://youtu.be/6jYngGQ4Tvw?si=hjURYeMiGdKShhQ_ 1:20

sena would still be doing her anim sometimes

[weak drum]

stop trying to make everyone go into cardiac arrest

[spiral raven]

oh i see why, u fitted a badum wa

before swapping into vita

tho the vid does the purple eva in slightly diff timing too

[runic lion]

🥀

cant do extra actions in ohio bro

[dusty dagger]

ssg ches

[spiral raven]

ig u could eva slightly earlier on vita

and maybe would make it more consistent

oh nvm timing si diff

welp anyways ig u can only figure out next time

[runic lion]

🥀

[runic lion]

id rather fight the demiurge

i think you’re legit the only one who doesnt hate fighting guaymas

probably because 1 slight difference in rot kills ur entire family

[spiral raven]

i do hate it, i just think theres a lot worse ones, also i got lucky wiht my p1, i did two runs for a good enough score

[runic lion]

i cant believe p1 is the hard part for you

[spiral raven]

because there's rng

[runic lion]

it goes so downhill for me on p2

[spiral raven]

at least its gone

for now

[runic lion]

yeah and dist is gonna change when it comes back up

if you hate someone you say you hope their rot has an inconveniently timed dodge

[spiral raven]

i will say if he did another combo, before ringing immediately, he prob coulda got more dmg done in, cuz his badum's last reso whiffed (boss iframe)

[open bone]

How should I split these up among bosses for MA? I think I’m finally getting to the point I might be able to compete for % on it. Maybe HLE Paws JK on Mobius, FDD Hofi VBM on Otto, PS TA RC on doom?

[spiral raven]

if ur gonna do mix stuff, only u really know, you're gonna have to do traoining mode and manullay add up the scores

hard to say what score u can get cuz none of us ever ran that

[open bone]

Fair

[spiral raven]

competing 2% might be hard, since otto no hoo or rs is quite ded

[open bone]

Ah unfortunate

[spiral raven]

i think u might do better trying full p2 teams on the sss boss

rahter than trying to give ps to doom

but yea, its gonna be a lot of testing

[vernal terrace]

PS would say on Mobius

[spiral raven]

ps can score better yea, but helia cna do -1s

[vernal terrace]

Ah

[open bone]

I think I would lose so much score on doom it wouldn’t be funny tbh

Like what’s my P1 cope gonna do, TC’d HoHE it?

[spiral raven]

i was thinking of ely jk rc

do u even have old ely weap tho

[open bone]

No

[spiral raven]

oh does starter not give the weap

[open bone]

It does but I grabbed RC wep

[spiral raven]

thats fair

[spiral raven]

just test it out ig

[mint rivet]

ely sig/the ball thing/potent spirit lamp?/kendos iron sword?

[runic lion]

yes

[mint rivet]

ok

[crude cloak]

Wtf you're alive

[runic lion]

no

[crude cloak]

Ah, sadge

[mint rivet]

would u say there is a priority between the other 3 weapons

the ball vs sword

who

[runic lion]

tbh i dont even know
i do push to upgrade one faster

as in to fully upgrade whats closest to max level

[mint rivet]

i fucked up on the second boss didnt kill it fast enough

the fucking cabbage

9255

[paper flower]

Is the Seele horb stigma better than aristophanes?(for astral ring)

[open bone]

If she has her dkey use her new stigs

[paper flower]

Thanks

[untold scarab]

I'm stuck

[dark phoenix]

not really sure what you are talking about, you need help?

[untold scarab]

Sorry there was a bug where during a mission it was telling me to talk to Kevin but I couldn't find him anywhere.q

The portal to him was bugged out I left and came back

[native plaza]

how to redeem the thing i got from mailbox

[finite pivot]

Wdym ?

[native plaza]

elysia thing

[finite pivot]

Im not Sure what you mean can you show a Screenshot?

Wait is it a golden Bouquet?

[native plaza]

no

its called everlasting love

dis

[finite pivot]

Thats what i meant , i dont think you can redeem it its just a collectors item

[native plaza]

alr

[tacit oasis]

what team can i make w new ely that doesnt involve dragon coralie or wtv her name is

[finite pivot]

What characters do you have?

Technically you can use any valk with symbiosis trait like Kiana Badum
Helia paws
Sushang peregrine sword
Elysia Hohe with her DK
Durandal (forgot her Name)

[tacit oasis]

i have more but theyre mostly unbuilt

[finite pivot]

Ok lets see

[kind river]

Does the new elysia work with or buff BFDD(idk if that’s the abbreviation for the dragon$

[finite pivot]

Its fdd and no Ely cant Support coralie

Coralie wants helia and either finality with dk, A Rank coralie or Vita

For best matches

[finite pivot]

Hmmm

I see your Elysia hohe has DK ?

[kind river]

Aw poo. Was hoping she could, sticking to fdd, blast metal and bolt storm

[tacit oasis]

mhm she has her dkey

[finite pivot]

I mean

[finite pivot]

Hi Love elfs buff is prob bigger than helia boltstorm

[kind river]

Switching to BACK to love elf

[finite pivot]

You can do Love elf, hohe and A Rank coralie

[tacit oasis]

alrr tyy, do you have any general rot idea for them

[finite pivot]

Boltstorm is just Generally very bad so any Alternative is better

[finite pivot]

You can If you have the pulls pull new coralie this Patch she should rerun in 4 weeks

[kind river]

Yeah I’m pretty new ish so like no characters lol

[tacit oasis]

ill probably get her if i get love elf's weap and maybe horbs dkey

[finite pivot]

Fdd coralie Leader, a Rank coralie and new Ely (a Rank coralie qte turned Off in skills)
In Battle start by switching into A Rank coralie , weapon active 2 Times or ult If you can

[crude cloak]

Wait what

HLE support fot FDD?

[finite pivot]

They dont got anyone else

And Ely is better than boltstorm

[crude cloak]

What about RC

[finite pivot]

Rc ?

[crude cloak]

Pardo

[finite pivot]

S rank Pardo without Gear better?

[full trench]

ar passive better than her kit

[crude cloak]

Lemme check

[tacit oasis]

i have pardos weapon and im running 2pc ana schariac stig on her, i can buy some of her fragments to rank her up

[crude cloak]

The 12% Ele taken part on 2pc? Or am I missing smth else

[tacit oasis]

i just realized i can craft her bastet stigs aswell help

[crude cloak]

You can use Vita VBm

Or do they not have any gear

[dark phoenix]

the special gift include a letter (which is that thing) and a code to redeem
but they only send the flower through mail, you only see the code on social media
you can check the pin for redeem code

[tacit oasis]

whats vbm?

[tacit oasis]

i have vita 4/4 maxxed out

[crude cloak]

Oh, wait, you have HoHE dkey, and you were asking about HLE
HoHE Vita then

[crude cloak]

Valkyrie Blastmetal

[crude cloak]

Fair enough, I stand corrected

[tacit oasis]

alrr ty

[crude cloak]

Where is that btw, just wanna see what I missed

[full trench]

its leader skill

[half hatch]

One of the leader skills

Not the main one but one of the others

[full trench]

took me forever to find lol

[half hatch]

That's the reason we ran VBs with her

[full trench]

skill name is unbound dark lord

[crude cloak]

Ah, wait, me dum-dum

Forgot about that xdd

[finite pivot]

Yeah Ana doesn't do much for Support

[marble venture]

is this the place where I ask what to run in abyss

[elfin parrot]

either help channel is fine really

if you're in qmanifold then specify what the weather is because it might differ (be more simple) than exalted

[sonic raft]

can somebody give me the link of the website that has the ER builds and such

[open bone]

Third pin

[elfin parrot]

the main one we have is the rentry one in the pins. If you're an older player you might be thinking of a more dedicated site but that one has not been maintained and has been closed down.

[marble venture]

Team for hellmaru?

(I can build lantern but she's wepless)

[elfin parrot]

Since this is a much more nonstandard situation, people aren't really going to know the true answer immediately and it'll boil more down to tossing you ideas to try out.

[marble venture]

I'm fine with tossing ideas

What's the intended solution? All I see on this fight is Ice DMG

[half hatch]

That team should be your best tbh, HLE has some passives that provide extra damage against typeless enemies and she's your best ice DPS

[elfin parrot]

if you want to maximize weather bonus then i guess hohe lead with lantern and vbs support can work (vbs doesn't fit but WoD usually only needs one rondo. Although I feel hohe splits across her phantom sequences quite evenly that she may still want both?)

But in my mind dropping a fully functioning and compatible support for a completely incompatible one prob isn't worth the last part of the weather bonus even if it's big.

So yeah what mango said

[half hatch]

Quick edit I mixed up HLE and hohe

[marble venture]

I'm gonna try
HLE FWS HoHe
HoHe HLE Lantern
FWS TFM HoHe
I'll see what works out best, likely first

I forgot I'm in AG 2 so things just die under 0 pressure

[mortal jetty]

Hle fws hohe should be your best team

In ago 2 u will not struggle

[marble venture]

There's a surprising amount of HLEs, but a lot of them run weird teams without 3 tags

[open bone]

Tbh wouldn’t really struggle in RL with that

My RL bracket is slack as fuck

[marble venture]

Lantern weapon is not worth picking up right

[mortal jetty]

No

Latern is dead

[open bone]

Well I mean only way it’s available rn is some future paid battlepass right, but there’s more valuable things in BP anyway even if ur whaling

[elfin parrot]

if you're already a bp buyer and lantern weapon shows up in the future, with nothing else appealing alongside it in its limited time, maybe you can consider it

but i wouldn't go out of your way for it at all

[round arch]

was she even alive?

[crude cloak]

I mean, yeah xdd

In 7.5 that is

In 7.6 too if whel

[round arch]

xD

[marble venture]

yeah hle fastest

[velvet frigate]

you cant change cores rights?

[elfin parrot]

cores of what?

augment core for old valks?

• you can toggle it off
  nexus core in ER?
• if you picked up the wrong core, you can quit and redo the floor to pick something else. Once you advance you cannot change it and will need to restart a new run to get something different

[velvet frigate]

yeah nexus core

no problem ER nowadays is easy

[edgy hamlet]

is this reroll device a good deal?

[crude cloak]

Yeah, but I'd keep the currency for now

8.7 could be LV dkey

[half hatch]

I would treat it the same way you treat stamps, if it would make a notable difference yeah but otherwise just keep the currency for now

[mortal jetty]

What is ur LV rank?

[slow meadow]

(returnee) anybody willing to share their invite code for me to enter in my game? (Idk if this is the appropriate channel)

[crude cloak]

A-rank iirc

[half hatch]

[mortal jetty]

[edgy hamlet]

Im missing like 40 or so ATK on HLE and Im out of the affix lock thingy

[edgy hamlet]

Nope. I dont even have her

[crude cloak]

#invite-links-here

[slow meadow]

Ty! I didn't see that channel

[crude cloak]

Yes, that's why A-rank

[edgy hamlet]

[mortal jetty]

I took the 23×2 .. sena dead and LV is not gonna do shit

[half hatch]

Doesn't really change a lot, take a look at your bracket on Sunday and ask yourself if the extra attack would really make a difference

[edgy hamlet]

Hmm Ill consider th 23x2 on sunday then. Im still going through HLE tutorial rn

[half hatch]

[elfin parrot]

if you're a whale/fossil with a huge excess on that currency then maybe you can justify that max reroll device. But otherwise stamp upgrades for a specific situation is arguably possibly much more influential than just a few atk stats

the currency doesn't expire so at the end of the day it's always going to be more of a matter of finding a key situation (for either stamps or affix) or when a particular stamp kind will change

[edgy hamlet]

yeah it's just that Im really struggling to get those wafers and both valk stamps in the shop didnt look super enticing

[elfin parrot]

yeah but you don't get that sort of currency that often or greatly (they are from pulling)

and those valk stamps can change later on to something more appealing in the future

if i had to put it grossly you're basically comparing the value of s2 vs maybe 10 or so attack. maybe as much as 26 if i want to be generous (max affix on a stig that only had 20 atk one line)

[weak drum]

@lapis raven akayuki's nirv rot worked better for me

[elfin parrot]

but obviously at this point in the meta where we are, there can be specific ways where that atk is worth it depending on what you're up against and what you care about

[weak drum]

i just did one run, didnt even mald

[edgy hamlet]

I think the only one I bought from there previously was Hohe stamps and i didnt even get her to SS. Now Im pretty sure she's dead in the water

[elfin parrot]

and ofc the valks the stamps are for are always going to be old/niche/almost out of the meta

[edgy hamlet]

Yeah Im looking at 25ish or so ATK gain from one 23x2

[elfin parrot]

yeah this is why we say to wait until you identify an actual situation

[edgy hamlet]

What about thelema stamps? Would she still have usage?

I was considering buying BP

[elfin parrot]

i cannot say for sure. I have not seen anything in the upcoming cn schedule

the only thing i can say is she hasn't received a direct replacement yet but even this statement isn't too substantial when they can just hibernate her use cases

and ofc one situation may not justify a huge investment

you may more consider spending that actual money on something more crystal efficient for actual new valk/weap/astral ops instead

[edgy hamlet]

I see, I was also looking at it from the perspective of getting more balls and wafers. I know I dont need any more dkeys once I get this final box so Ill be sitting on as surplus of balls

the thelema frags were just a bonus

[elfin parrot]

yeah bp orbs are just for older stuff so i really cannot value them highly. Wafers are a bit more fair but also are rng

reserve works is permanent too so buying bp for it is just accelerating it when you can save money over a longer term. If it's for the limited time paid bp shop that's more fair but again they're usually things that are now niche or near out of style

[weak drum]

sairaan

how much sp can i be indebt in hle's so

[elfin parrot]

i thought the description says as much as possible for one attack?

i don't remember tbh

[weak drum]

oh interesting

[elfin parrot]

but i don't think it should be a concern?

[weak drum]

im just trying smt stupid

[edgy hamlet]

Im just coping Horb would be added in there because I got her dkey but not her...

[elfin parrot]

i haven't really played HLE against a boss yet so my knowledge is very flimsy atm

[weak drum]

yeah its fine, ty alot

[tulip lichen]

Should I pull chenxue ao before hle's s1 for further investment?

[elfin parrot]

https://i.imgur.com/KvoYKVT.png ok nvm prof misinfo

[edgy hamlet]

oh yea I just looked at the CN abyss schedule. Im def hibernating in redlotus this patch

[elfin parrot]

1000 negative

[elfin parrot]

uh just to be clear when i say i hibernate i meant they can just not bring back specific bosses for a long time

like thele on paper has a ton of them

raven, huodou, hov, one more i'm not remembering

but they just simply didn't run any of them

the quantity of different bosses don't matter

[edgy hamlet]

Ik what you meant but I just found the thought of myself hibernating funny

[elfin parrot]

they've run repeated bosses as long as they shill who they way (lmao hellmaru for hohe)

oh ok then lol

[weak drum]

oh 1k hmhe #profbtw

[elfin parrot]

!faq gachaop

[night parcel]

Should I Pull AstralOps?

NOO CAPTAIN!

If you are a f2p meta player, you should not pull gacha AstralOps - only players who are retaining or trying to retain Nirvana should consider it if they have the funds (unlikely for f2p players).

Reasons:

• Dreamseeker is good enough despite being free.
• Too expensive, especially if they need SS (~20-30k).
  • AstralOps have the same cost as a gacha weapon, therefore pulling one may result in being unable to afford a Valkyrie's weapon down the line (for meta players, this means skipping said Valkyrie entirely).
• The damage and score increase they provide in Redlotus and below is often minimal and not needed to retain.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[elfin parrot]

for most intents and purposes of f2p meta at RL retain, you should simply stop at HLE s0 and weapon syn1

[edgy hamlet]

Hohe is just dead then right? I really cant see a use for her other than maybe MA but then again I dont do MA much

[weak drum]

also you actually cant pull for s1 gacha valks anymore

not like you should be doing that

[elfin parrot]

can you elaborate more on your circumstances on why you're considering higher ranks or gacha ops?

[half hatch]

It basically is as much as you can since you need 200 SP to cast your ult and your ult can cost 1200 max

[elfin parrot]

i think chenxue is mainly notable at ss too and not too notable at s

[weak drum]

yeah she's not much better than ds at S

ofc you'd use her over ds in goi teams but the score diff is neglibile

[elfin parrot]

type counter kasumi?
shadow star tank?
rpc? heph?

not sure about kalpas

which makes all the hellmaru spam all the more funny

[weak drum]

in roo she's just ehh ( again, at S rank), if you need the starting intensity then you'd use her

[elfin parrot]

they had so many ways to emphasize hohe and they kept picking hell

[tulip lichen]

I only care about making both elysia battlesuits as powerful as I can. Meta or pull value does not really concern me, just making hoh and hle better

[weak drum]

can we have a tc kasumi rerun

[half hatch]

Kalpas is a HLE boss || currently running in CN ||

[weak drum]

oh?

[edgy hamlet]

damn ok lmaooo idk why they did her dirty like that

[elfin parrot]

makes sense

[weak drum]

whos the tc shield killer

[half hatch]

Ps

[weak drum]

figured

[elfin parrot]

hm ok. Keep in mind damage isn't everything in this game. I'm not sure on the details of S chenxue and how well it can make you cycle across/resume multiple outbursts.

[mortal jetty]

Isn't it normal? Isn't the same case of All the old valks?

[elfin parrot]

it's not an uncommon story

[spiral raven]

man although heph is her "boss" the freeze timings just dont line up
miserable experience if they do it

[edgy hamlet]

yeah fair

[weak drum]

heph is a thel check for hohe teams (actually all bosses are just a thel check for hohe)

[elfin parrot]

it's kind of like how sirin passed HoI to FDD but FDD had to deal with more jank to make the gimmicks of the fight work lol

[spiral raven]

no but, the point is, theres no way for hohe to fit her burst in the vul period

but yea anyways they dont run it so its cool

[elfin parrot]

maybe that's why lol

[spiral raven]

i do feel like it is why

[elfin parrot]

we did got to see heph in MA at least

[mortal jetty]

Why do they even run kalpas in CN?

[tulip lichen]

That's fair. Ive checked the skills and I don't know which skills belong to which rank for chenxue but what I understood is that she seems to restore astral charge and shorten cooldown for RoO and the new astral ring type and hle does not reach the required astral ring charge in one rotation unlike planar armament

[mortal jetty]

It feels so random

[tulip lichen]

I thought it'd be better than s1 because of that

[weak drum]

if you meant the restore intensity when you ult in SO (for goi) and restore intensity after SO ends (for roo) then its locked to ss

[weak drum]

actually s2 hle*, a copy gives 50 frags now

[tulip lichen]

Thank you

[tulip lichen]

I forgot that😭 thank you

[weak drum]

lemme think, you just want a super heavily invested hle team?

[half hatch]

It fits HLE quite well makes sense for me

[tulip lichen]

Yes. Except I'm not going to pull coralies new battlesuit

[elfin parrot]

as for HLE's ranks be sure to read them in detail too. Some of them do make her notably stronger but only against specific matchups like this one for SD matchups https://i.imgur.com/BhinBsW.png

[half hatch]

Also just PS shill since she's on carnival

[weak drum]

[half hatch]

Because you want someone that can clear the HC very fast

[weak drum]

alright

[elfin parrot]

hi3 is a game heavily about matching up against enemies too. So on top of the valk's own kit, the teammates she chooses can become a major factor too

[rough haven]

Can HoRb stay in soul shaper mode while in s. outbrust?

[elfin parrot]

nowadays most supports that matches can get good enough results across each other for RL retain when neutral but some specific enemies may call for something more specific

so like you may care about sushang against kalpas who has a hitcount phase as mentioned earlier

[weak drum]

thats support horb right

horb's only in her support mode when she's in a goi team

[half hatch]

If support HoRb then only in GoI, in WS she's locked to her DPS form no matter what

[rough haven]

So, she can't switch forms during combat if she has that divine key weapon?

[half hatch]

Yeah

[rough haven]

Then what about if I try to use soul shaper in er deep sequence?

[elfin parrot]

FDD has ignite but i doubt they'll specifically call that for an HLE fight which is hyper specific. What they might do is call for a general status condition (symphony diabolic kevin)

But FDD also has breach which isn't as big of a deal as it used to be, but still usually is enough to make her a top option for many scenarios @tulip lichen
not saying for you to go get FDD but just want you to be aware since it seems relevant to your earlier stated goals

[half hatch]

Afaik you just can't

*if you use her dkey

[spiral raven]

she only 1 form in dkey

[elfin parrot]

anyway the point is, the idea of strongest doesn't really exist generally. But trying to be specific may involve you needing to invest widely as well as highly

[tulip lichen]

Thank you for the information I just really dislike some of fdd's animations so I don't want to play her on my team. I'm aware that it's conflicting with what I aim for but I don't mind not retaining high in abyss anyways

[elfin parrot]

yeah i don't blame you

and yeah it's fine to be arbitrary

being absolute is demanding to most people

if you have any other specifics you want to be aware of, feel free to ask

[tulip lichen]

Thank you! I just wanted to know how valuable chenxue is compared to s1+s2 for hle. Actually is it different for every astral op how many skills are locked behind which rank or is it the same for all? If I plan on pulling her I would want to know which skills are unlocked at every rank

[mortal jetty]

She can not even do 700+ and u think it fits her

[half hatch]

With fitting her I just meant that she's ranged + has rime trauma application and has a support that can clear HC very fast. Sure it's not made for her but I wouldn't say it's completely random that it's her boss

[elfin parrot]

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Chenxue you can check here. In most cases SS is the main rank to note (although theresa for LoA is largely fine at S)

[tulip lichen]

Thank you again

[elfin parrot]

i don't really know or have further comments on how S2 compares sorry

you did mention hohe earlier though and i can talk about senadina/thelema/and ss sera for her

in some situations maybe SS vita since SS lets her restore alot of ARI for WoD teams

but i don't remember the details so please do review

thelema ranks meta wise should be higher than s0 now due to spending event/bp and past raffles/carnivals but maybe that's not relevant to you

[stoic crest]

Wasn't it badum and new Coralie? No I don't have her full team

[haughty token]

i forgot how ER works, do i need to level the char and weapons or are they adjusted?

[elfin parrot]

only char level scales up

rank and gear do not

[haughty token]

ah damn.. got vill-v from standard by chance and wanted to use her. but i do not wanna level her gear

[elfin parrot]

you can give her some other decent and compatible fire dps gear if you have it

maybe little joys?

as for weapon if you have bri ex then that works
(all that should be enough to spam lite early quits to level to 15/get all ely signets for crystals)

for shallow you get a trial too

[haughty token]

yeah found the trial. for shallow that works

[tribal merlin]

do i need to change anything abt the build and were can i see krit rate and it krit dmg fixed or smth?

[quasi pier]

elemental characters can't crit

[tribal merlin]

okay

[quasi pier]

only physical characters can crit

[tribal merlin]

im learning this at captain lvl 84 💔

[half hatch]

Fyi 1 copy would get you to s2. It's s0->s2->ss->ss1->ss2->ss3->sss

Just from looking at her s1 and s2 it doesn't seem to be too notable for abyss though her s1 seems like a nice upgrade if she's a WoD support and her s2 is pretty good in MA though idk if you care about that. What definitely feels more valuable is her SS upgrade which basically lets you skip BA 1,2 and 3 when you farm SP for her ult and just lets you eva->BA4 though this skill requires you to trigger evasion skill and idk how hoyo differentiates between just evading or actually needing to let your ultimate evasion go on CD maybe someone else knows more about that. Generally I'd say if we compare SS HLE to SS Chenxue it just depends a lot on the boss and abyss rank if you can actually utilize what SS Chenxue provides i.e Initial Ari, extra SP on SO entry, Ari regen and some damage buffs

[quasi pier]

and no that's the build, you can give her sd atk and archer atk affixes if you want

affixes matter more in higher tiers of abyss though so don't feel like you have to if you don't want to

[half hatch]

The most notable probably being initial Ari and the DMG buffs for lower ranks. Though also note that there are some other damage buffs from HLE ranks that I didn't mention since they didn't seem too notable but they're still nice ofc. Every rank up also provides atk which then also results in more damage

[spiral raven]

the thing is that aop can be used in more scenarios if you are considering ranks on valk vs aop

and if u just want dmg on a particular valk

weap syncs give more

[tribal merlin]

how much atk should i try to get

[spiral raven]

ur highest possible

[weak drum]

it all depends on your account's state

[tribal merlin]

i dont own a single part 2 character except sparkle and i havent build any valkery

[weak drum]

yeah like he said, just get it as high as you can (if you're still new or is in a low abyss rank then it wont be super impactful)

[spiral raven]

then it won't matter for u atp lol

[weak drum]

for the average established account then usually for hle its 1450+ atk btw if you're wondering anyways

[austere quail]

Guide for Elysium Realm?

[elfin parrot]

it's in the pins. Feel free to ask further if you have trouble understanding it.

[austere quail]

Thx

@elfin parrot who's BR, LE, MA and VKE

[weak drum]

glossary is in #👶beginner-help pins btw

[spiral raven]

i aint no sAIraan but u got a thing called pins

[spiral raven]

^

[elfin parrot]

Sorry to lead you from one pin to another but it's as the others have said. At the very least this is a nice introduction to what resources the server offers

i'll tell you MA at least because that one can be confused with another abbreviation. https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Midnight_Absinthe

[spiral raven]

raven based

[elfin parrot]

usually when the community says "MA" it more commonly refers to Memorial Arena gamemode

so just be aware of that

[austere quail]

Sorry and thanks again

[sonic raft]

generally whos better in the new event gamemode atm ely himeko or kevin

[weak drum]

ely is the best for the final mode or whatever its called, the one with the lb, himeko 2nd, kebin just dont use him

[eager smelt]

ely

[weak drum]

wait its not endless

[eager smelt]

but u can play whoever if u dont care about leaderboard

[junior flume]

why is my sus switch cd so long

[sonic raft]

at first i tried with ely but the run was pretty terrible but after that himeko seemed to perform better but ig i chose bad buffs for ely then

[junior flume]

i don’t get to trigger her qte w hle weapon active

[weak drum]

im pretty sure you're just supposed to end p1 with hle

https://youtu.be/xEa5MjAHojQ not 904 but its way more lenient and easier on your sanity with the evades

[naive mirage]

How much is the difference in atk from a lv 50 to lv 65 weapon?

I’m trying to level up coralie weapon and she’s around 1100 atk rn

[cunning gull]

i dont remember but its a lot for a dps

at least make sure that ur hle (and/or horb) have their wp maxed bc its hle boss rn and the next boss is for horb

[crude cloak]

Massive difference
Keep in mind that the weap's buffs are being improved as well

[naive mirage]

oof im holding out on fdd so that i can fully level hle weapon when i get it

im at like 35 until guaranteed for the wep now

[crude cloak]

Well, you don't need FDD DPS anytime soon

And she doesn't contribute much damage as a GoI support

[naive mirage]

sounds good

[deft creek]

Uhh u im at agony 3 and they recommend ely cora and helia and ion have cora 😔

[digital sky]

What teams prefer 4* kiana > any of the base S aops aside from chexune (whom i don't own)

Ive heard of sparkle so far. But is there anyone else?

[formal wigeon]

not LoA cause S Teri is pretty decent, aside that any fire/lightning where you need the extra dmg more than whatever ARi benefit you have on the aop

[digital sky]

I got all lightning dps's and fire....no lantern, weplesssparkle, Badum, and soontonotbewepless fdd

Badum is flung off

[half hatch]

I only know of 1 SO WS cycles that prefer 4* kia over SS songque

[digital sky]

So
FDD, and every lightning dps

Oh yeah i forgot about trio

Feels nice having 4* kiana elf after 2 years tho

[half hatch]

Ah except Chenxue

Didn't see that

[digital sky]

S0 Songqueop
SS Dreamseeker
S0 Seraop
S0 Teriop
No chexune

[naive mirage]

I can’t beat this, do I need to actually build them for real, I need to like break a shield with fire and can only use Durand

[digital sky]

Another thing would u reccomend picking thelema up from bp? or is it not worth it? (Her and her wep ofc)

[digital sky]

Dont forget about vg

I think i cleared all that with vg...

[naive mirage]

Oh is she better than the other two 😭

[elfin parrot]

it's the more unique thing you can get but we have no real foresight of notable uses for her in the future

[digital sky]

Do U want me to test vg?

Wrong reply. But bleh

[elfin parrot]

if people are picking up thele from spending event and are already buying bp i usually say it's ok to buy the weapon with orbs

but there's definitely alot of things to consider from this

[naive mirage]

Yes please 🥹 tyyy

[elfin parrot]

and if you're not already buying bp i rather you just focus on newer releases

[formal wigeon]

I doubt yours is still A tho

[digital sky]

What rank is ur vg..

[naive mirage]

S

[digital sky]

[digital sky]

I think im at ss

[naive mirage]

oop

[digital sky]

How many frags away? U could yoink frags from the er box (not like theres any other use) or save for stamps idrk

[naive mirage]

4/40

[stoic crest]

Both new? : (

[naive mirage]

for SS

[digital sky]

Did u buy the boxes from er?

[naive mirage]

not yet

[digital sky]

Lemme test ss

First

[digital sky]

What chapter is it btw..

[naive mirage]

okie, also i dont got like real gear for them

15

[digital sky]

Neither do i

[half hatch]

What other chars do you have, while cora can be notable you're definitely able to score high with other symbioses chars in RL

[digital sky]

What stage

[naive mirage]

EX-7

[digital sky]

Could i ask what gear u do have?

[naive mirage]

i crafted the 4 star lance once, and i have like the 3 star stigma from normal pulls

[digital sky]

Atm ill use plasma lance and fhm 3pc

[digital sky]

Get SS vg

I cleared with 56 seconds left

[naive mirage]

oh shit

ok i shall buy from er

[digital sky]

1055 atk

Is my atk for h3r

Her
But i have dkeys.

[formal wigeon]

do you not have any prism stig to put on ? like badum or cora stigs for fire

they barely do anything but should be better than those

[digital sky]

The foundry wep should be better than plasma btw
Its a permanent dmg buff

Basically, WA when the iron body shield isnt there
Ult whenever available
And
Just use BA seq x2 to get the bar on the bottom to be fully charged

[digital sky]

If u want some more buffs,you can put 3pc rolad on DA/PE and have her sit in the backgrund

If u have it ofc

[naive mirage]

hmm ic

[digital sky]

Idk what stigs u got so im saying the basic of basic

[naive mirage]

yea lemme take a screenshot real quick

[sacred cape]

What’s this, some useless garbage?

[digital sky]

Yeah just use vg

[thin wadi]

what valks is new ely good in a team with?

[digital sky]

Vakyries with the symbiosis tag
All valks released from 8.0<->8.4 have it

[formal wigeon]

for HLE dps

aside that she can support other GoI valks or WS/WoD

[digital sky]

Is it going decently?

[fair dock]

help. for hi love elf's team, what would be the rotation for stellar outburst. elf -> helia -> coralie? also i know that coralie just use qte and ult, but what about helia, qte and ult too? again for stellar outburst only

[naive mirage]

yes very much so tyyyy

[digital sky]

No i mean like get thelema and her wep from bp

[digital sky]

Np lol i like old stuff so its fun to try it all

---

Like just bp shenanigans
No uh
"Throw xtals for thelema"

[elfin parrot]

it doesn't really change aside from increasing the orb cost

i really don't value orbs when they're only used for permanently available stuff or older gacha stuff falling off

bear in mind the possibility of other stuff that may be added down the road too and assess if you would want orbs spent there instead

[digital sky]

Like what

[elfin parrot]

anything after thele's release

keep in mind hoyo doesn't always follow an order

[digital sky]

lantern

Okay..so
Songque would have more value?

[elfin parrot]

idk jds ranks sorry

[digital sky]

No like
S0 Thelema
S0 Songque
Etc
But with their gear
From bp

Not saying songque will be in bp tho*

[elfin parrot]

JDS right now is pretty useful for LoA. There's potency with how she can detonate critical points (so a team with her and HLE can detonate two per hp bar)

i can't really tell you how things would be later

[formal wigeon]

I'm saying it

[elfin parrot]

but it's something to consider

[formal wigeon]

might be a long time before it happens tho

[elfin parrot]

someday we will be able to farm pootz in the game

it's just a very long time away from now, possibly transcending time

[craggy plume]

Both PAWS and FDD should just do QTE and ULT so that you can get 200 SP for HLE in SO.
The rotation should be something like HLE weapon, weapon, hold ULT, QTE ULT for first valk QTE ULT for second valk, QTE HLE Weapon, weapon, HOLD ULT, (enhanced Basic sequence if low on damage), ULT
Video example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1jZ5v2JzN8
@fair dock

[digital sky]

U can only do that in WoD tho

The two mark kill i mean

[elfin parrot]

yeah

[digital sky]

And properly*

[half hatch]

In SO the rotation would be HLE WA ->WA -> charge ult ->Fdd qte and ult -> paws qte and ult -> HLE qte and WA -> WA -> charged ult -> after the charged ult you can either do 4 basics or press the finisher this depends on the run and if you need the damage

Seems like I'm too slow kek

[digital sky]

So essentially
Dont get thelema
Cuz other older supports are better?

[elfin parrot]

uh not really what i was saying

[digital sky]

Oh

[elfin parrot]

don't get thelema because you can spend whatever you're spending to do so, on newer and better things would be more accurate

i can't comment on how useful songque will be either by the time she shows up in bp someday

[digital sky]

Huh

[formal wigeon]

but those newer/better things could also be old and worse by the time you can get them this way

[digital sky]

You lost me after "you're"

[formal wigeon]

so basically just opportunity cost

do you value the thing right now more than the opportunity to get another thing later instead

added on top of the usual "don't get it unless you really need it right now"

[digital sky]

Uhhh
I mean..uhm i dont know?

[dusky mantle]

so i didnt get HLE weapon, you think i should get it mid patch or just save up?

[elfin parrot]

let's say you're spending 20 bucks on bp or something (idr the exact cost). i rather you spend that money on something else that can give you more crystals (more monthlies if you weren't already buying them)

[formal wigeon]

and that too yeah if this includes buying BP as a thing you aren't already doing

[digital sky]

Oh
Just get more bang out of ur buck

[elfin parrot]

yeah

[dusky mantle]

wild

[elfin parrot]

thelema is just not very worthwhile to go out of your way for

[weak drum]

ber is this a choice between skipping or getting hle weap

[elfin parrot]

she's potent but she might become potential man at this point

[digital sky]

[weak drum]

[digital sky]

Whats the pm mention doing there

[formal wigeon]

she does a lot, but is that lot relevant now

[fair dock]

i see, i see. btw, i have seen some vids and sometimes they make paws combo attack too and the finisher before switching to HLE. do i need chenxue to be able to do that or are there any situations where that is recommended?

[elfin parrot]

i think in the future you really should plan better and aim to get any new valk+weap at the start of the patch

at this point if you already have ely but still trying to get weap it's debatable. obviously the longer you take the more you'll miss out on

[weak drum]

if you need dmg yea, the rot mango gave you is the fast ver that assumes you are overkilling

[dusky mantle]

true enough. i aimed for dkey first thats why

[elfin parrot]

given that hle is SD typing with JDS utility, I feel inclined to give her a bit more weight and push for the weapon, but how imperative that will be remains to be seen

it's like saying sparkle and teri both can double collapse and therefore can instant collapse couatl, but then couatl never showed up, and sparkle and teri on their own was enough for kosma/tona

[willow wedge]

Anyone have a rotation reccomendation for miss elf - dragon coralie - blastmetal?

[fair dock]

nice. i don't need chenxue right? i only have dreamseeker hehe. it might not be enough sp? i'll try it right now. i don't even know what chenxue do haha