#💁gameplay-help

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crude cloak
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Oh

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Yeah, cooked

open bone
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Er, sirin

finite barn
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my sirin? shes sss

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but ive only got 2* kiaelf

open bone
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Ah dire

finite barn
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yeah

open bone
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Yeah you could try uhh trio or Vita dps but you might be cooked

crude cloak
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Vita DPS is ass here

open bone
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Sorry

finite barn
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i think im just gonna sleep

crude cloak
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Trio could be solid

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But depends on ranks ofc

finite barn
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uhhh i think im s s2 ss hofi hotr hoo?

open bone
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Might be worth a shot

crude cloak
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Who tf lists ranks like that 😭
But yeah

finite barn
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i listed the ranks first and then was like wait i should say the valks too cause not everyone orders their teams the same way

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but i didnt want to click and edit in XD

crude cloak
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Using HoFi HoTr HoO instead of HoFi HoO HoTr is a criminal offense

finite barn
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the critical support always goes 2nd

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idk thats how i always do it

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senti, hotr, horb

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the all go 2nd unless theyre the dps

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ae too

digital sky
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I put the breach support 3rd

crude cloak
digital sky
finite barn
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yeah sleep time for me

digital sky
full trench
vernal bronze
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@crude cloak thanks so much for your help, I’m first place so far in RL

vernal terrace
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Slacc

pale musk
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0:24>0:25, https://youtu.be/Z3y1bP-0Ao0?si=X0q4W7DJr348cGJN what are they doing before ult?

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crude cloak
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For buff timing purposes I assume

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Nvm, it's P1

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Just for extra demej then

plucky gust
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my room is very sweaty. like the difference per rank is like -2 or something

dusky mantle
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Idk

elfin parrot
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looks like she did the kick flip of BA1. Idr how WA's animation looks like since coralie zigzags alot there

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both are pretty cancelable, so if you're really unsure, look up which does more damage (initial hit(s) for WA)

lyric blaze
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what team works for 0sec lantern if none of my p2 ice valks have wep and my hofi is on litost?

open bone
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What an odd way to phrase that.

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There’s only 2 p2 ice valks to begin with and you seem to have HoHE wep anyway

lyric blaze
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oh wait no i dont have hohe wep forgot to mention i basically have no p2 ice
oh and the hofi was cause i used her hoo & sw before realising she was locked on litost

spiral raven
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there's brick, hot, lv

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and prob more

rigid cedar
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just button preference I assume, but idk it feels weird

weak drum
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can i 0s with s2 hohe s2 thel

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am i doing smt wrong, i keep on 1s-ingHoSHmm

modern yew
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Theres an all s0 ref so yea

spiral raven
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u can, p1 is just hohe eva wa wa
p2 is just thel ult, but u can add some extra atks

weak drum
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i just one wa and thel qte

fossil cedar
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What should i be spending my ancient willpower and legacy on

spiral raven
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anything u want, but most ppl prob using it to get pure witch orbs

fossil cedar
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Are the Valks worth it

digital sky
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All are outdated and not worth using in anyway, ths last one with a "niche" was mmg, but she got replaced with coralie (and she also needed sparkle and HoTr 12/12)

rigid cedar
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also, they give you very fast xp for leveling your Dorm, to gain stat bonuses from there

somber zenith
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Should I continue to play on this acc or restart? I am a returning player

rigid cedar
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i mean either way, your valks alone have a lot to work with on this account. I don't think it would hurt farming it up instead of starting over

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its just important to know what's usable right now and for what

somber zenith
elfin parrot
# somber zenith Yes

what kind of goals do you have for returning to the game?

we generally advise meta for more crystals from abyss. However being meta does strongly urge you to keep up with crystal income sources to regularly afford most latest releases. If you see yourself taking a break again or regularly, perhaps we should figure out other priorities.

You don't need to restart your account with what you already have. The part 2 stuff will still be relevant for some recurring meta content. However you may struggle a bit on newest content until you save enough to afford the next newest few gacha releases.

somber zenith
elfin parrot
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ok hang on you're going to want to edit and spoiler tag your words there

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that info is only officially revealed in CN so far (as per #🔼cn-gameplay-discussion pins)

for new content not officially revealed on global servers yet, it is not permitted to talk about it openly here

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please be mindful of the costs to get those as well

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!faq rates

night parcelBOT
# elfin parrot !faq rates
The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain? aFuHuaWicked

[Click here](#đŸ‘¶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

  • Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k Crystal) vs 78 pulls (22k Crystal)
  • Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k Crystal)
  • Worst Case:
  • Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k Crystal) vs 150 pulls (42k Crystal)
elfin parrot
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||dkey too||

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!faq crystals

night parcelBOT
elfin parrot
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maybe check this out too if you haven't yet to make sure you don't miss any crystals from this point

somber zenith
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I see thx

elfin parrot
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but if you're coming back with almost no crystals, and aren't a spending player, please be reasonable with your expectations of what you can get next patch

somber zenith
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O

rigid cedar
elfin parrot
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and even if you don't wind up getting everything, they'll be in tactics class tutorials for you to play as trials

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oh i see then

rigid cedar
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but i'm not sure if getting enough pulls for a full valk from 0 crystals is possible. even with one time sources

elfin parrot
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get what you can for now and assess by the time the next patch arrives

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if merely obtaining is the goal, then you have until the banner ends in the middle of the patch too. (meta players more want to aim to get at the beginning of the patch otherwise)

rigid cedar
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yea at least 60 pulls should be doable ||for pulling at least horb dk||

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assuming they can skip the other option

elfin parrot
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idk. depends on how far they want

somber zenith
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So skip ||ely||? T-T

elfin parrot
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i'm just trying to say they may have more time than a meta focused player

somber zenith
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Also who can I use ||horb divine key|| with?

rigid cedar
elfin parrot
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how much do you understand part 2 team building?

somber zenith
elfin parrot
somber zenith
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I know the teams up and stuff up til sparkle

elfin parrot
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Anyway let's change channels if we're going to discuss at length

somber zenith
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But that it

latent stream
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How to get this last paint??

dark phoenix
latent stream
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Okay ty

untold scarab
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Can I Use Songque in Place of Herrscher of Void for Phy Dmg?

open bone
untold scarab
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I do have Coralie and Vita

open bone
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Are those the only part 2 Valkyries you have?

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And are you saying you have FDD or Blastmetal

full trench
untold scarab
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FDD

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Yes I returned too late

open bone
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FDD cannot properly support sonq unless they’re both on a LoA team but she might be better than nothing ig. Idk if you have a loa DPS to make that work

full trench
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wod is the most functional ring with roo supports missing the tag so im not gonna say it's fine but compared to having to play like goi without two tags you're a lot better off

open bone
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Yeah. Depending on the abyss tho FDD-Vita-VBM with proper tags might still be stronger than weather sonq, depends on if it’s specifically her shill or if you’re trying to use her to replace someone like Dudu and what the boss is

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You could try both if you wanted. But Sonq Vita FDD should at least be functional

untold scarab
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I see...

I can learn to use Valkyrie blast metal.

digital sky
half hatch
untold scarab
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I was just checking because this is all I have

digital sky
brave badger
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hi

untold scarab
open bone
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First team is a little cope but should be fine in A3 on her shill, second two will be fine in RL in the right weather

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And able to occasionally brute force outside of it tho neither of them are amazing at brute force

lunar crow
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how do i do this

digital sky
# lunar crow how do i do this

||Unlight the torch on the top, earthquake the rock, and push the hay bale next to the torch, raise the platforms (by interacting with the homu statue) light the torch on the ground then unraise the platform||

If that makes any sense

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||by push the hay bale, i meant put it where the rock was||

normal cloak
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im at the final mission

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ok i left and re-entered

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i think its intentional

vernal terrace
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Yeah-

foggy vapor
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Is the new astral op girl gonna rerun soon? Ik Theresa reran once and then again like / weeks later with badum and peregrine sword iirc. Will she get that quick turnaround?

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Or is there like a banner schedule I can check online?

foggy vapor
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lol thank you

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||banners in this game are so crazy lmao I'm so used to newer hoyo games where you wait months for reruns||

digital sky
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Hows HoFi nowadays

crude cloak
crude cloak
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||idk how she performs with HoRb dkey though||

digital sky
digital sky
crude cloak
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RoO comps

digital sky
crude cloak
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Not always

digital sky
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So...
Sena Teri Sparkle

crude cloak
digital sky
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Oh

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I heard shes a really fast detonator

crude cloak
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Yes, but you've gotta do the proper sequence

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Can't just be spamming A

digital sky
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Isnt it BA BA evade BA BA ?

crude cloak
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A evade AA evade AA

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On the ground

digital sky
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OH

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U dont trigger in the air?

crude cloak
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You do, it's just slower

digital sky
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Oh icic

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Hows trio nowadays then?

crude cloak
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A solid bruteforcer, but BiS-wise very niche

digital sky
crude cloak
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And ofc you wanna be having them ranks

digital sky
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Erm.... Bleed weather?

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HoS

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Took me a minute

crude cloak
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You can cook with the Bleed katana there, but idr how practical that actually was

digital sky
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Oh yeah does HoTr desperately want her wep lvled in trio?

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have a lack of pri arm mats cuz of kira..got my first 0s tho

digital sky
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Oh okay so pris perfectly fine?

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Lvl 50 pri

crude cloak
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Yeah

digital sky
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In rl ofc.

digital sky
crude cloak
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Eh

digital sky
crude cloak
crude cloak
digital sky
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Cuz i can farm pwo for HoFi ranks.

vernal terrace
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Dudu weather's are mostly Phys (without counting the singular flux-)

digital sky
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And ely realm for HoO

digital sky
# crude cloak Defo good enough in RL

Okok
Cuz ive struggled on.. uh vita stuff (which i have the solution now with a 12/12 vita team) img stuff and ps stuff iirc? Oh and fire...somehow (thanks badum..)

digital sky
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Fire and ice and phys got shafted

vernal terrace
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Ice is more neglected tbh

digital sky
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My 13/13 nyx team will beat pt2 valks someday..

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/j obv

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I have no phys pt2 valk..

vernal terrace
crude cloak
digital sky
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Like HoH was still around

vernal terrace
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HoHe got upgraded to Part 2 EinsteinSip

digital sky
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Now HoH is
A lot better than she was

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Oh and sw BronyaCopium

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Coping too hard

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Anyways

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Hows Trio as a fire dps?

vernal terrace
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HoFi's DPS team didn't even change after getting the DKey LanternHeavyThoughts

digital sky
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Tbf HoFi's best pt1 team in 99.99% of scenarios was trio wasn't it?

crude cloak
digital sky
crude cloak
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Better

digital sky
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Like general fire

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Like fire tank

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Ignoring HoH

crude cloak
digital sky
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Ok got it lol

vernal terrace
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FDD is better than Trio TeriDerp

digital sky
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Well i dont own fdd

vernal terrace
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Oh wait- ignoring that-

crude cloak
vernal terrace
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CN?
Interesting

crude cloak
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Yeah, HoFi DPS and trio were different teams back then

crude cloak
vernal terrace
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Makes sense, she has better Ignite than the fart HoFi has LanternHeavyThoughts

crude cloak
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It's not about Ignite xdd

vernal terrace
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Buffs?

crude cloak
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Just better overall damage if you played the team properly ig

vernal terrace
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Ah

crude cloak
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Not 100% sure here

digital sky
vernal terrace
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2/3 ar leader LanternHeavyThoughts

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Unless you put someone else as the leader

digital sky
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HoFi Sparkle HoTr

vernal terrace
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Sparkle-

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O wait, forgor she's Rite of Oblivion

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Sparkle can't support HoFi TeriRip

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More or so cope

crude cloak
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So that's not a thing unfortunately

digital sky
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:(

vernal terrace
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Only thing she can activate is 3/3 leader

digital sky
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Then HoTr lead

crude cloak
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HoFi's damage is cooked then for other reasons

digital sky
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Darn

digital sky
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Right

crude cloak
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Yup

digital sky
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Wish Hofi had another tag

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Actually no i dont

stone stump
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Im end game player should i get new astral op ? Damn im stuck in ag3 i need to retain rl

formal wigeon
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Aop is only needed for Myriad t100 (arguably t50)

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If you can afford every new valk + their weapon, you can consider aops on top

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and they aren't a meaningful upgrade with only 1 copy in general, you'd need 2+

rare iris
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I'm not meaningful

spiral raven
dark phoenix
glacial rune
glacial rune
glacial rune
stone stump
open bone
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Sirin HotR sparkle can retain RL. Maybe even promote depending on bracket.

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Should definitely have been possible to promo a3 with that imo but might depend on ranks

glacial rune
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but also, this circles back to what I said:

should probably first look at how you play/teams you lack, because in that case Aop probably won’t help

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why pull aop if you don't even have a support/dps that works for her

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(coralie)

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in hi3 you first build your team fully and then aop/elf is like your last improvement before going for ranks

rigid cedar
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learn how to get to your best without aop before thinking about getting it

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which is mostly the Redlotus/Nirvana border

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that's where I understood why aop is actually needed past that point

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before that, you can improve without needlessly putting your crystals in debt

glacial rune
crystal barn
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yall think this can be improved to 800 A3? i think my rotation is wrong

shrewd python
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I have no p2 SD chars
 help

cunning gull
cunning gull
weak drum
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song dps or loa song no badum

cunning gull
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whats the loa options u got

weak drum
open bone
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Well yeah those are the only other 2 LoA dpses outside of Badum

cunning gull
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hmm ig u can try dudu song first...

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is this for abyss or ma

weak drum
weak drum
cunning gull
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try dudu first then

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unfortunately i can't test dudu to tell u

weak drum
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issa ok

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thx a1 dweller

cunning gull
twilit sparrow
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where does one get 10 battlesuit supply cards

cunning gull
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you didn't get the coralie mail thingy i take it (i mean im not sure if you can get it rn)
cuz that one gave 5 cards

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unfortunately stress test doesn't give battlesuit cards

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are you by any chance close to a log in milestone? those give cards

twilit sparrow
twilit sparrow
cunning gull
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ahh 😭 tough
do you really need the currency tho?

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the aichan thingy i mean

glacial rune
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it's set up in a way you end up with extra

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rewards cap at 1300 and you get 1500 overall i think

cunning gull
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ah thats good to know...

cunning gull
twilit sparrow
crystal barn
stone stump
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new coralie use ATK stat or sp/s ?

rigid cedar
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throwing away so much damage

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also, try to SO into JDS right before the big thing hits the ground and starts p2

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if you do it right, you hit Sa and can pop the first SD breakpoint asap

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also since you have Teri, just end p1 faster by using the first badum shift

rigid cedar
stone stump
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what i should buy ?

rigid cedar
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then finish up with badum 2nd shift

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remember to ult

rigid cedar
glacial rune
stone stump
glacial rune
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I’d probably pick either of those

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If I were you

rigid cedar
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abyss flower is in reserve works BronieStare

glacial rune
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Oh is it?

rigid cedar
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yes

glacial rune
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Didn’t know they added it

rigid cedar
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xy sword is the play

glacial rune
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What about sword?

rigid cedar
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still as rare as a needle in a haystack

glacial rune
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Just in case they go for af

rigid cedar
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also ||next patch has a dk box that DOES NOT have xy sword||

stone stump
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hmmm with 700 maybe dkey box worth it

rigid cedar
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depends on your goals

stone stump
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i have 210 left

glacial rune
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||Do they have stellar keys ||

rigid cedar
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am I alice in wonderland?

glacial rune
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Prob unless you want to swipe

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If you want to swipe, then synergy

glacial rune
thick aspen
rigid cedar
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yea, neither am I a rabbit

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even if my profile pic is pb

glacial rune
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3 s slow mode is diabolical in gameplay or beginner help, you want to write an advice, send one msg and a dude will just do what you say without reading your clarification msg because of slow mode

rigid cedar
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yea i hate it

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goes against my style of writing

thick aspen
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Just become sAIraan

rigid cedar
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or a prof

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no slowmode

thick aspen
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Crazy

glacial rune
glacial rune
rigid cedar
digital sky
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Choppy yet effective

rigid cedar
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just need more time on my hand

glacial rune
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What do you even need to become a prof

spiral raven
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u just apply

dark phoenix
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having no life

rigid cedar
glacial rune
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Should’ve just been written in rules instead of dif faqs

rigid cedar
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eh

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it should be in the same category

glacial rune
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Ig it’s hidden for me by default

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Well, 2000 quality msgs here sounds like a pain and prob will never happen, but alright ty for gameplay help ram sensei VodkaHug

rigid cedar
cunning gull
# crystal barn I did it but if I didnt switch or use weap skill before ar I can get higher ones

sorry for being late
i would prob start with fdd doing basics and the firth one hitting sa then you can do her wp and ult then switch btwn jds and fws (u should be able to get away with a jds ult in her first entry as well)
then for p2 just as sa is about to throw her thingy u can SO pick jds, do her thing and switch btwn fws and her until fdd's buff is about to run out so you would refresh it if u didnt kill the boss alr
i hope this is understandable

cunning gull
spiral raven
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stellar outburst

crystal barn
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Got it

thick aspen
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you can use the spiders ability to hookshot there

fervent musk
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Which synergy should I get? I have two synergy cards.

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Here is my weapon inventory

thick aspen
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meta wise most ppl pick coralie and helia since they are the newest so probably will have most use

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but if you have another character you really like feel free to pick for them too

fervent musk
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I am going to pick RS' weapon and FWS' weapon

rare iris
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Rip

foggy vapor
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outside of the daily whats a good way to get equipment exp fast? im playing through the P1 story now lol on about chapter 20

foggy vapor
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Their so expensive tho...

weak drum
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well you wanted a good way

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thats arguably the best way esp if you’re rich

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you can also salv useless weapons (iirc higher rarity ones give equip exp lemme check)

full trench
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does fws have extra buffs on her ult if she casts it after shift

weak drum
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nvm just salv useless weapons for coins and buy equip exp with them @foggy vapor

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oops wrong pic my badd

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keep whatever looks cool and just salv the rest

half hatch
full trench
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ok good to know

full trench
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got 748 with pretty much the same run just faster execution

eager smelt
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i miss fish skip

full trench
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same

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why do i have less damage now

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oh my gene limits expired thats why

pale musk
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does the 2 eva fish skip still work?

cunning gull
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all que bugs got patched iirc

nimble flume
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So make sure to use it after the time stop is over

craggy plume
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What is the best team for current abyss boss if i don't have JDS?
Available LoA supports are LP, PAWS, FDD, RS, HoHe.

spiral raven
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u got badum?

craggy plume
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yes

spiral raven
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paws

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and cora

crude cloak
craggy plume
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ok, I will try that

vernal terrace
crude cloak
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Well, in the end of August

dusky mantle
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Oh right

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Abyss ends tomorrow.

dusky mantle
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Hows this score? I think i can do 720

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Slacc run tho

full trench
dusky mantle
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Anyway i got

full trench
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if only there was a ds ref maker 😔

eager smelt
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my ds run is so old now

full trench
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im +2 on it now though

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hoping to get +3 cause i accidentally submitted a songque score

dusky mantle
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Tempting to look at a ref

full trench
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refs are good

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when u see someone else play u look for ways to outscore

dusky mantle
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Why does 6d feel so.big

full trench
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because it is

dusky mantle
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Hmm ill do some more blind runs first

dusky mantle
full trench
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did u gather

dusky mantle
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Yes

full trench
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💔

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do cora heavenly link before fws ult and see if that kills

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you still have breach up with that line

dusky mantle
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Lemme record a phase 1 blind run

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Idk

full trench
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i tried vbm weapon to approximate higher dist, p2 im not really sure about but p1 is 878 if you fws combo after the ult and songque qte

spiral raven
dusky mantle
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"Sliver"

full trench
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i slivered 😔

dusky mantle
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Now i slacc

full trench
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yeah i dont think theres a ton more you can do

eager smelt
full trench
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max hp reduction

eager smelt
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but ur using wa later anyways

full trench
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yeah after it takes damage

eager smelt
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so what

full trench
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so it loses less hp than if i did it earlier

eager smelt
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sounds delulu

full trench
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ok ig it doesnt matter when u do it

eager smelt
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i didnt watch the rest of the video
ill do it later

full trench
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thanks for the help idk why i thought it worked like that, 756

wild wolf
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can someone help pls i suck at puzzles 😭

dusky mantle
full trench
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true

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always more points to be had if ur pockets are deep enough

wild wolf
full trench
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np bestie

dusky mantle
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The trick is to go backwards

elfin parrot
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damn this kanbaeru guy with only syn2 FDD weap and DS is pretty good lol

full trench
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ds is god

elfin parrot
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true EntropyPog

full trench
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good thing i was told how to improve my score cause i accidentally submitted a s*ngque score

elfin parrot
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fwiw the teri run double rings but doesn't get to make use of the any of kiana's shifts for the last ring lol

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it's so wasteful and sad lol

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or at least the two runs i ref'd off of

spiral raven
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feels like sa thing

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also wowee, top 50

elfin parrot
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it's still super early for NA

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but yeah it's definitely been a SA thing

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i just expected the higher dist to eventually make the gap larger

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but here we are still seeing it after all this time

spiral raven
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badumj ust happens to be one of the longer shifts so yea

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sushang was much shorter no

elfin parrot
#

sushang cheats with time stop during part of the animation so yes

spiral raven
#

dno if u call it cheat but yea, at least u do see extra shift pretty much always used in ma

glacial rune
#

i'd call LoA a cheat overall but that's just me

spiral raven
#

dats fair

elfin parrot
#

i didn't mean it seriously or literally. It's a bit of a common exaggerated phrase to say it that way

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MA is different since it's sus anis

cunning gull
#

you're tell me that sa in nirv didn't need more than one SO...
i could have tried with ds..
fml

spiral raven
#

u do want 2 SO

elfin parrot
#

if you're using teri then 2SOs is better but not by much because you don't get to make full use of it effectively

glacial rune
#

you mean this?

elfin parrot
#

yeah

cunning gull
glacial rune
#

i found that this is a scam actually

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at least fdd has the same wording on her SO

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and clock still ticks in MA

elfin parrot
#

meanwhile FWS

digital sky
#

Should definitely be a toggle..

elfin parrot
digital sky
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During or after CoralieSob

elfin parrot
#

i mean toggles are going to be on or off

digital sky
#

Yeah

elfin parrot
#

but it being off doesn't really give you any benefit since it's complete time stop

digital sky
#

I mean like agh

elfin parrot
#

you're making it sound like you want it to be during or after but i'm just saying there's no toggle like that in the game

digital sky
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Like HoRbs support/dps form toggle

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If that makes any sense

elfin parrot
#

i guess

cunning gull
digital sky
#

Sorry

elfin parrot
# digital sky Sorry

i mean anyone can dream but at that point it just sounds like we're hoping for things for our own convenience and benefit rather than working around how it already is

digital sky
elfin parrot
#

there are advantages of FWS having the time stop after too. It prob works better in MA because the shift gets sus ani while the time stop lets you do stuff like CA for free

digital sky
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Yeah i did notice how u can fill up the bar -> SO -> shift -> CA in the timestop

elfin parrot
#

i initially wrote semi hiatus next to my name

i took it off after something in my life was past

but i'm starting to realize my life is just as busy or not as occupied with hi3 as before so i'm still not around as much lol

digital sky
#

Smh

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Hope it gets lighter tho!

solemn tartan
#

I forget, does fws timestop happen during stellar shift drum sequence or is it only after

elfin parrot
#

i don't really want to change my name again because i don't want to cause more attention/distractions than necessary lol

digital sky
#

After

elfin parrot
#

and yeah ty

solemn tartan
#

Ok ty

formal wigeon
elfin parrot
#

now i'm confused because it's faster to not hold the button but for less damage

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but i assume not holding the button will make you miss the TFD

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2.4s sounds pretty big to miss out on

digital sky
#

Sairaan do u think coralie is good

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CoralieÂČ

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Not vbm

edgy hamlet
#

Is 825 doable? I think Bita is slower than FDD

cunning gull
spiral raven
#

wat u tryna say

formal wigeon
#

well you'd also have more HP left than that with DS

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but yeah that's what they said above, the score gap for DS on that boss isn't massive

spiral raven
#

u wont have ring with ds if u are tryna follow that tho

cunning gull
#

i mean if there's enough dmg then this boss doesn't require another SO?
that's what im tryna ask about 😭

spiral raven
#

u do use 2 shifts in the end for kiana, so the extra shift does come in

cunning gull
#

ah alrighty

spiral raven
#

like dmg wise its 2 shifts total, which u get access to with s teri
but ari for the end bit is locked behind ss

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with ds u get only 1 shift but like if u assume u have the dmg to not need the shift

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then sure ig

cunning gull
#

oh alrighty that's good to know!

spiral raven
#

ig, but i feel like u dont have dat dmg

spiral raven
cunning gull
#

😭

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man.. im just tryna find a boss this patch whos nirv version is DS friendly
even if its just myriad since demooting while myriading isnt that unusual

spiral raven
#

trust there'll be one ig, but "myriading" is alr a pretty big thing depending where u r

cunning gull
#

eu, looks slack rn

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i wanted to try s2 paws on lighting clock to see if i can retain or myriad that but i get slapped by the fact that the ugly qua pig is just b4 clock and i have no qua valks for it

spiral raven
#

u cna try to +100 on qua pig ig

cunning gull
#

how 😭

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thats my current dilemma

spiral raven
#

if u get a slack bracket prob posible

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cuz u prob unlikely to retain

spiral raven
#

but promoting is a lot more likely imo

glacial rune
#

eu myriading is slacc af tho

spiral raven
#

idk eu

glacial rune
#

for pig i think i have sparkle

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so should be able to cope

formal wigeon
cunning gull
#

tbh idk what to do for that ugly pig
bc i either try and suffer or i use that as a n excuse to enter nirv on that pig so i can escape it (weird thinking but its working for me rn, since i can't find a nirv retain cycle for me this patch)

formal wigeon
cunning gull
#

hmm hows na myriad in general tho..
are they slack by any chance

spiral raven
#

ofc slack prob like eu

formal wigeon
#

DS is obviously always gonna be lower but about 30 points or below is as low as you'll get it

cunning gull
spiral raven
#

i hear that na a bit more slack than eu but, if he is looking to be able to t50, u prob can t100

formal wigeon
#

I mean the ranking here isn't significant, it's super early and all of NA plays in the last 2 hours HimekoLMAO

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it was more so just for the score

spiral raven
#

thats true too

cunning gull
#

yeah that's a fair point

glacial rune
#

For eu it honestly depends on a boss

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Everyone malded on HoI for some reason

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790 wasnt even top 50

full trench
#

yeah i wouldnt have been t50 in eu on that boss

glacial rune
#

Cap for s0 + sss aop was 807

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But that was hard af TeriRip

spiral raven
glacial rune
#

just dont look at refs LanternHeavyThoughts

cunning gull
#

srs tho idk what to do on qua pig, i hate him for me not having a qua valk to use on him... should i just dodge him while being in nirv

full trench
#

where are the gene limit off jww refs that i can follow

spiral raven
glacial rune
#

fr

cunning gull
#

the only other boss im not looking forward for is starless

glacial rune
#

that's why i prefer doing my own refs kek

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at least you're going insane at your own pace

spiral raven
full trench
#

you do your own refs because you prefer it
i do my own refs because no one skipped teri
we are not the same

glacial rune
glacial rune
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i have to do my own refs because asa always asks for 60 fps ref so i can prove him it's possible on mobile ICANT

full trench
#

i do feel a bit scammed that i skipped teri bc fws bosses were doable without her and then ps comes out and teri is insane for her

glacial rune
#

like runs with her are always braindead

spiral raven
#

dudu teri also pretty good, just hasnt rerun often

glacial rune
#

dont tell me about dudu teri anymore

spiral raven
#

sowwy

glacial rune
#

it cost me hard pity dudu and double hard pity teri kek

spiral raven
full trench
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i skipped dudu so that wasnt a consideration for me

cunning gull
#

oh btw how bruteforcable is using ps jds flex on physical img boss btw (rl)
can i even +100 that within any p2 except for dudu đŸ„ž

spiral raven
#

idk, no one can rly predict brackets i feel like

glacial rune
#

TeriRip idk what the situation is rn but with that kind of cope isn't it better to just run HoO

full trench
#

i would say there's no way you +100 but unfortunately i think there is way

glacial rune
#

tho idk phys might be strong enough to bruteforce faster

formal wigeon
#

well you're not beating a Dudu that plays properly

cunning gull
formal wigeon
#

so the question is just "will there be 3 of them ?"

glacial rune
#

or just use fdd bruteforce LanternHeavyThoughts

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i remember there was time we tried playing HoH on that boss on phys weather

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because ice was that strong

cunning gull
#

daym

mortal jetty
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Hof not hoh*

glacial rune
#

HoH too

spiral raven
#

raven op

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i rmb using hoh to bruteforce kevin

glacial rune
#

I tried Ely HoH in NV and scored like 760 or something

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while my s0 PE scored 790

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provided, my ely was ss2

formal wigeon
#

It's just the case of the boss having only 1 proper valk to kill it, so if you don't have that you just throw whatever is stronger at the time

formal wigeon
#

For HoD that's also because it always was img weather and not phys

glacial rune
#

it's because "1 valk to kill it" is always her case

formal wigeon
#

I mean that was kinda just PE (and smol Dudu now)

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img issues

glacial rune
formal wigeon
#

BK had plenty alternatives and was even just bad before AF

glacial rune
#

fuck dudu tbf

#

on Jizo alternatives were just to cope to matter before we got proper good supports for phys

formal wigeon
#

TP wasn't cope tho

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and before AF she was getting slapped by NS

glacial rune
#

TP only got hecate pri in like 5.6 i think

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or even later

#

before that she wasn't even close

glacial rune
#

the only real alternative on Jizo was dps SnS for some time but it was cope without griseo, so only in 5.8 did it become viable

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or was it 5.7

cunning gull
#

maybe i should just +100 on sa (rl) so i can sleep on physical img boss (nirv) and just retain rl then get +100 on ignite wolf (rl) so i can sleep on starless in nirv
weird mindset but idk anymore

glacial rune
#

you can

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i'd say it doesn't really matter unless you can consistently retain in NV

cunning gull
#

unfortunately i can't 😭
but i can promote most rl cycles so i wanna make use of my trophies

glacial rune
digital sky
#

5.7 is aponia and eden

spiral raven
#

who would've thoyught she lived til now

glacial rune
#

no one thought her set wouldn't be her bis either

glacial rune
#

it wasn't until later that we realised she just needs to exist for qte

full trench
glacial rune
formal wigeon
#

mostly because we wanted it for HoT

glacial rune
#

first bke rotation after 7T people still mostly used marg on her

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so a whole 3 days

formal wigeon
#

turg took so time to stick, but she was out of Handel quickly

glacial rune
#

well yes because handel was used on HT

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i mostly meant turg ig, just not worded properly

cunning gull
formal wigeon
#

But turg was figured out on that first BK rot

glacial rune
#

on the last day of it

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in sea and NA at least

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on eu we figured it out during second day

cunning gull
spiral raven
#

cant you match the ds ref earlier

cunning gull
#

trophies or score?

#

im in rl rn so i can easily promote this cycle

spiral raven
#

o

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thought u were nirv this cycle

glacial rune
#

should easily match ref then

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probably

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RL is paper like usual

cunning gull
cunning gull
#

im only worried about pig and starless

spiral raven
#

other cycles non loa gets rough

glacial rune
#

true but i think nowadays you don't even need to retain to get into t100 peebo

cunning gull
#

no way this cycle is too slack that i can enter with rl...
nah

glacial rune
#

SD boss experience

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new amazing element hoyo thought of

cunning gull
spiral raven
glacial rune
spiral raven
cunning gull
#

rl so dead 3 attempts is enough for me to +100 /hj

glacial rune
glacial rune
elfin parrot
# digital sky Sairaan do u think coralie is good

hi i only just got back. what does good mean to you?

My personal thoughts are she has team breach and we've seen how that is like for sena and vita. I expect her to be a top option often but other options are still close enough if you have to skip her just like all other part 2 valks, especially for RL and below. Get her early in the patch if you can afford it guaranteed for meta, but otherwise if you have non meta reasons or you cannot guarantee her full cost, it's not a big deal to skip.

glacial rune
#

when i just broke through

cunning gull
glacial rune
#

still had phantom trophies

glacial rune
glacial rune
#

yes

glacial rune
#

first one i did, it was andrius boss

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and yumei slacced

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so i got ahead by 1 pts

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tho i had to level my mobi pri to lvl 65 and also two bows for fish cuz i was trying both

cunning gull
#

is the second bow that blue bow per chance

glacial rune
#

yes

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that gives sp

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i needed 3 ults instead of two to kill andrius TeriRip

spiral raven
#

cerulean flare goated

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i upgraded wrong bow and had no mats TeriNotStonks

glacial rune
#

same at first

digital sky
elfin parrot
digital sky
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ended up getting hofi dkey

elfin parrot
#

i think what's later is still in beta so you'll have to wait for now and maybe wyv will put out a video later

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yeah well i think you know the answer to that

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and it'll be the same thing if you want to consider fdd later too

digital sky
#

Oh u mean pulling old stuff?

elfin parrot
#

yeah

digital sky
#

Oh yeah i knew the cons

#

But i love me some ws
I also get imaginary coverage
||also the free HoTr made it all the more better||

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||next patch i mean||

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So u think 8.5 would just be better?

elfin parrot
#

speaking from this point when you already missed some of FDD's use cases

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i don't think i need to repeat this lol

#

if you want you can list out the cons to me to make sure you really know everything i'm thinking of

digital sky
#

For skipping fdd?

elfin parrot
#

no for getting hofi dkey

digital sky
#

Oh

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||I butchered my chances of getting Horb dkey||

elfin parrot
#

sorry those were two separate thoughts. let me edit that

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||yeah possibly. well you can still get lucky||

digital sky
#

Yeah

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||I do want it (also i would get a phys dps)||

formal wigeon
#

but idk if breath even has stuff she supports

digital sky
#

For FDD?

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Oh wait im stu-

#

I have FWS and Helia.

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No sushang, no dudu

#

Oh and well i do own vita

elfin parrot
#

anyway you cited img coverage as a reason but i don't think you're getting much effective coverage overall even with your lack of dudu

digital sky
#

Rl bruteforcing with trio BronyaCopium

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And if its just img, trio or HoO dps

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(And not phys^)

elfin parrot
#

is your trio team well ranked? It doesn't sound like it

fervent musk
#

I skipped FDD

digital sky
elfin parrot
#

maybe it'll still be viable on RL but at that point i do think you can still bruteforce with other teams

digital sky
#

Even if they're 12/12?

fervent musk
#

everyone has at least SS HoFi these days SeeleDead1

#

my trio team sucks

elfin parrot
#

ss hotr too which gives more sp and breach

#

!faq hotr

night parcelBOT
# elfin parrot !faq hotr
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Stop right there, Captain! AichanCry

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elfin parrot
#

s0 hotr has some pretty notorious sp issues

digital sky
#

Even in trio?

elfin parrot
#

the cost is less in trio but it can still happen

digital sky
#

Isnt it 50sp ult cost

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For the joint ult

elfin parrot
#

the consequence of it may not be as bad alternating ult cycles but

#

it can still be like you need to turn on QTE for the extra weapon unlock for extra sp

#

which can still cost you

#

for RL i have no idea how important this will really be

#

i mainly recall this issue personally against diabolic in nirv

digital sky
#

Huh

#

Whos diabolic

elfin parrot
#

||redacted||

digital sky
#

Oh

#

Okok

formal wigeon
#

but you can't skip it

vagrant fractal
#

Just wait for hotr DLC, it is inevitable

elfin parrot
#

i thought breath meant reduction when i read that

#

but anyway RL fights might be short enough that it might be ok. It was mainly an issue because it was nirv = longer fights

formal wigeon
#

That one was a particularly bad case too tbh

#

no transition to farm, no sp pack, needed like 5 rots

elfin parrot
#

but overall a shorter fight doesn't mean much if everyone else's fights are shorter too

digital sky
#

The ult?

elfin parrot
formal wigeon
digital sky
#

Oh yeah breach

formal wigeon
#

regular HTR teams you could do no ult rots alternating and it's fine

#

Trio you lose the special qte if you don't and HFI just doesn't function

digital sky
#

Dang

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Even if u include 10sp on SO from HoFi SenadinaStare /j ofc
Uh seriously tho
I could just put sp cost red or sp/s on HoTr stigs?

#

Right?

formal wigeon
#

sp red doesn't work

digital sky
#

Oh boo

formal wigeon
#

sp/s is mandatory and it is assumed you have it

digital sky
#

Uh..lemme see my htr stigs

formal wigeon
#

(does not trigger aslaug on hit either)

lime grail
#

playing jds dps for fun, whos her best dps at this day and age?

formal wigeon
#

Her best support is a LoA leader I'm pretty sure HimekoLMAO

lime grail
#

thats obvious but what if i want to play wod jds

formal wigeon
#

I'd assume still Thel Sena

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unless Vita ranks

lime grail
formal wigeon
#

idk how vita compares for her at S0 tbh

lime grail
#

would fdd not be better than sena

formal wigeon
#

FDD doesn't have shadow star tag and I think Sonk needs the 2 long buffs for her SO rot to work

#

You can try it tho

lime grail
#

o

#

i swore she did

digital sky
#

I got .33 and .45 and .38 sp/s... i dont think that enough

formal wigeon
#

She has LoA and grail tags

digital sky
#

Didnt reply. Dang

vagrant fractal
#

Now gurdil will never know about your message

formal wigeon
digital sky
formal wigeon
#

you can't

#

sp% and sp/s can only roll 1 line per stig each

digital sky
#

Ah boo

formal wigeon
#

that's why we usually got both when they were relevant

digital sky
#

I got .44, .45, and .38 now

formal wigeon
#

leave it at that

lime grail
#

also gurdil im surprised you quit and yet still active and well versed in hi3 knowledge

digital sky
#

Except HoTr is screwed

#

Cuz sp red is a no go

formal wigeon
#

ye

lime grail
#

are u pulling evernight

formal wigeon
#

idk, maybe

#

am poor

digital sky
lime grail
#

i came back for her

formal wigeon
digital sky
#

Okay then my affixes stay the way they are

formal wigeon
digital sky
#

I get 1.77 sp/s when on field (.5 offield)

#

Is that ...enough to uh ult every rot?

formal wigeon
#

maybe

#

there's always a way to do it, the question is how little can you do while still being able to

#

and you'll have to figure that out on each boss

digital sky
#

I could keep my qte on just for comfort?

#

Oh does HoFi have her qte on in trio?

formal wigeon
formal wigeon
digital sky
digital sky
#

U always qte into HoFi with the joint ult right?

foggy vapor
#

Just played through the nagazora arc and they have the same damn eyes

vagrant fractal
#

I feel like every time I see hi3 game news it's this or a dkey

#

What's up with that

glacial rune
#

remember seeing you in NV sometimes xd

lime grail
formal wigeon
glacial rune
#

when did you quit though

formal wigeon
#

soft quit on Sirin patch, came back for a bit with Luna/CE but mostly was doing dumb stuff in RL

#

last I ever played was on Vita patch

glacial rune
#

oh we quit almost at the same time then lol, i quit during LV patch after pulling her and half a brick for HoS

vagrant fractal
#

Red Lotus or Real Life?

glacial rune
#

returned during bita, pulled her and sparkle, quit again

formal wigeon
vagrant fractal
glacial rune
#

and now im back to toxic ex hi3 getting to NV again TeriRip

formal wigeon
lime grail
#

e2 cipher?

formal wigeon
lime grail
#

super giga based

#

cipher the goat

#

i want her real bad

formal wigeon
#

but now there's 4 things I want and nothing to get them HimekoLMAO

glacial rune
#

swipega ?

lime grail
#

💔

formal wigeon
#

when arguably she ain't doing much more with those dupes

#

they kinda bad

vagrant fractal
#

Is she cute at least

glacial rune
#

hot, rather

formal wigeon
vagrant fractal
#

Worth

formal wigeon
glacial rune
lime grail
# formal wigeon when arguably she ain't doing much more with those dupes

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vagrant fractal
#

Luckily I listened to that prydwen review and burned all my jades on that piece of shit Jingyuan release and uninstalled the game after being ruined

full trench
formal wigeon
#

RC HB, looks like an old ice team TeriDerpMelon

formal wigeon
#

soonℱ

glacial rune
#

TeriRip money where

fervent musk
full trench
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i have 513 pulls

lime grail
#

on where

dusky mantle
#

Oh cool

full trench
#

hsr

dusky mantle
#

Im still alive

lime grail
#

oh ok

dusky mantle
full trench
#

0%

dusky mantle
#

Ez pz

#

No counterplay

full trench
#

or maybe higher idk not sea player

dusky mantle
#

Thanks kanlao

full trench
#

prof soon KianaHehe

dark phoenix
#

no ao = demote Dorysia

formal wigeon
glacial rune
#

too many good targets TeriRip

glacial rune
vagrant fractal
narrow cedar
vagrant fractal
#

0% until soft pity

glacial rune
#

Atk jump jump atk?

lime grail
#

đŸ„€

formal wigeon
#

looks like a CA

half hatch
#

Looks like the last attack from their attack sequence after shift imo so maybe they're cancelling BAs? Atk atk jump atk jump atk maybe ?

#

Otherwise it's prob a CA

lime grail
#

yea i also think its fws last ba string

#

the 4th one

lime grail
#

was slow though so jumpsec LanternLollipop

half hatch
#

Damn those are some crazy cancels then

narrow cedar
#

its aa jump a jump a

#

ani cancel n2 and n3

glacial rune
#

Ah, missed one a

#

Yeah

#

Badum too cope so people are turning cope into cancels

lime grail
#

im going too slow

#

whatever im taking the -1s

dusky mantle
#

Im still alive nice

#

T9 tho

pale musk
spiral raven
spiral raven
#

so at the end comes from ss teri

crude cloak
#

And your eva is on CD cuz you didn't evade the attacks after FDD's Stellar Shift

spiral raven
#

that atk he meant to evade occurs at 912

#

in his case

glacial rune
#

Can just tank hits and evade last one