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Er, sirin
Ah dire
yeah
Yeah you could try uhh trio or Vita dps but you might be cooked
Vita DPS is ass here
Sorry
i think im just gonna sleep
uhhh i think im s s2 ss hofi hotr hoo?
Might be worth a shot
Who tf lists ranks like that đ
But yeah
i listed the ranks first and then was like wait i should say the valks too cause not everyone orders their teams the same way
but i didnt want to click and edit in XD
Using HoFi HoTr HoO instead of HoFi HoO HoTr is a criminal offense
the critical support always goes 2nd
idk thats how i always do it
senti, hotr, horb
the all go 2nd unless theyre the dps
ae too
I put the breach support 3rd
You disgust me
Howww
lmao i got 615
yeah sleep time for me
still want an answer to how its disgusting
vile
@crude cloak thanks so much for your help, Iâm first place so far in RL
Slacc
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Just a single BA
For buff timing purposes I assume
Nvm, it's P1
Just for extra demej then
my room is very sweaty. like the difference per rank is like -2 or something
looks like she did the kick flip of BA1. Idr how WA's animation looks like since coralie zigzags alot there
both are pretty cancelable, so if you're really unsure, look up which does more damage (initial hit(s) for WA)
what team works for 0sec lantern if none of my p2 ice valks have wep and my hofi is on litost?
What an odd way to phrase that.
Thereâs only 2 p2 ice valks to begin with and you seem to have HoHE wep anyway
oh wait no i dont have hohe wep forgot to mention i basically have no p2 ice
oh and the hofi was cause i used her hoo & sw before realising she was locked on litost
why do people do this
just button preference I assume, but idk it feels weird
Theres an all s0 ref so yea
u can, p1 is just hohe eva wa wa
p2 is just thel ult, but u can add some extra atks
ohhh its wa wa
i just one wa and thel qte
What should i be spending my ancient willpower and legacy on
anything u want, but most ppl prob using it to get pure witch orbs
Are the Valks worth it
In wt? No
All are outdated and not worth using in anyway, ths last one with a "niche" was mmg, but she got replaced with coralie (and she also needed sparkle and HoTr 12/12)
all war treasury valks that are in Elysian Realm, because their shallow sequence and leveling them there give you a ton of crystals
also, they give you very fast xp for leveling your Dorm, to gain stat bonuses from there
Should I continue to play on this acc or restart? I am a returning player
does all of the part 2 valks have full gear?
i mean either way, your valks alone have a lot to work with on this account. I don't think it would hurt farming it up instead of starting over
its just important to know what's usable right now and for what
Yes
what kind of goals do you have for returning to the game?
we generally advise meta for more crystals from abyss. However being meta does strongly urge you to keep up with crystal income sources to regularly afford most latest releases. If you see yourself taking a break again or regularly, perhaps we should figure out other priorities.
You don't need to restart your account with what you already have. The part 2 stuff will still be relevant for some recurring meta content. However you may struggle a bit on newest content until you save enough to afford the next newest few gacha releases.
The reason was kinda of ||ELYSIA THE QUEEN OF ALL BEST GIR|| and that Horb ||getting her divine key|| I think what it called
ok hang on you're going to want to edit and spoiler tag your words there
that info is only officially revealed in CN so far (as per #đźcn-gameplay-discussion pins)
for new content not officially revealed on global servers yet, it is not permitted to talk about it openly here
please be mindful of the costs to get those as well
!faq rates
So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain? 
[Click here](#đ¶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.
Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.
Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)
- Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k
) vs 78 pulls (22k
) - Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k
) - Worst Case:
- Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k
) vs 150 pulls (42k
)
O sorry about that
Ai-chan is here, Captain! 
[Click here](#đ¶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!
Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!
maybe check this out too if you haven't yet to make sure you don't miss any crystals from this point
I see thx
but if you're coming back with almost no crystals, and aren't a spending player, please be reasonable with your expectations of what you can get next patch
O
i already answered a bunch of things in #đźcn-gameplay-discussion actually
and even if you don't wind up getting everything, they'll be in tactics class tutorials for you to play as trials
oh i see then
but i'm not sure if getting enough pulls for a full valk from 0 crystals is possible. even with one time sources
get what you can for now and assess by the time the next patch arrives
if merely obtaining is the goal, then you have until the banner ends in the middle of the patch too. (meta players more want to aim to get at the beginning of the patch otherwise)
yea at least 60 pulls should be doable ||for pulling at least horb dk||
assuming they can skip the other option
obtaining with weapon?
idk. depends on how far they want
So skip ||ely||? T-T
i'm just trying to say they may have more time than a meta focused player
Also who can I use ||horb divine key|| with?
it really comes down to how many crystals you can get and if you can afford her
how much do you understand part 2 team building?
I guess little T-T sorry
the info of ||horb dkey|| is in #đźcn-gameplay-discussion pins. So it should be ||familiar to you if you understood your existing valks||
I know the teams up and stuff up til sparkle
Anyway let's change channels if we're going to discuss at length
But that it
O I see then
How to get this last paint??
summon the tree
Okay ty
Can I Use Songque in Place of Herrscher of Void for Phy Dmg?
In general yes? But youâll want to have the right team for her obviously
I do have Coralie and Vita
Are those the only part 2 Valkyries you have?
And are you saying you have FDD or Blastmetal
do you mean vbm or fdd
FDD cannot properly support sonq unless theyâre both on a LoA team but she might be better than nothing ig. Idk if you have a loa DPS to make that work
wod is the most functional ring with roo supports missing the tag so im not gonna say it's fine but compared to having to play like goi without two tags you're a lot better off
Yeah. Depending on the abyss tho FDD-Vita-VBM with proper tags might still be stronger than weather sonq, depends on if itâs specifically her shill or if youâre trying to use her to replace someone like Dudu and what the boss is
You could try both if you wanted. But Sonq Vita FDD should at least be functional
I see...
I can learn to use Valkyrie blast metal.
U do loose uh rondo state tho :(
You don't lose it it's just shorter
I was just checking because this is all I have
Still suckish... thelema is probably the best one off, lantern cant do another fancy CA right? And songque uhh looses a free CA? HoH i cant recall..
hi
So For Songque,
It's Her Planetfarer and who?
Your theee possible teams rn are
Sonq+FDD and LP
FDD+ LP and VBM
LP+ FDD and VBM
First team is a little cope but should be fine in A3 on her shill, second two will be fine in RL in the right weather
And able to occasionally brute force outside of it tho neither of them are amazing at brute force
how do i do this
||Unlight the torch on the top, earthquake the rock, and push the hay bale next to the torch, raise the platforms (by interacting with the homu statue) light the torch on the ground then unraise the platform||
If that makes any sense
||by push the hay bale, i meant put it where the rock was||
is this a glitch or actually a part of the story?
https://youtu.be/rcgy7AulJ5M
im at the final mission
ok i left and re-entered
i think its intentional

Yeah-
Is the new astral op girl gonna rerun soon? Ik Theresa reran once and then again like / weeks later with badum and peregrine sword iirc. Will she get that quick turnaround?
Or is there like a banner schedule I can check online?
||The answer is "yes"||
lol thank you
||banners in this game are so crazy lmao I'm so used to newer hoyo games where you wait months for reruns||
Hows HoFi nowadays
Yeah, it's cuz meta matters here, and rerunning stuff after a couple months just doesn't make sense from that perspective
Has a solid amount of uses
||idk how she performs with HoRb dkey though||
Oh . Forgot about that lol
Not what i was relating it too tho

Like what
Shes BiS in all of the ws comps?
Not always
So...
Sena Teri Sparkle
Team comps there can be very boss-dependent
Isnt it BA BA evade BA BA ?
You do, it's just slower
A solid bruteforcer, but BiS-wise very niche
Like on
And ofc you wanna be having them ranks
You can cook with the Bleed katana there, but idr how practical that actually was
Oh yeah does HoTr desperately want her wep lvled in trio?
have a lack of pri arm mats cuz of kira..got my first 0s tho
Not really
Yeah
In rl ofc.
What about on dudu weathers?
Eh
....S0 S2 S0 is fine....right? 
Defo good enough in RL
Or ig
S2 SS S0
Okay, that's a lil bit better
Cuz i can farm pwo for HoFi ranks.
Dudu weather's are mostly Phys (without counting the singular flux-)
And ely realm for HoO
Okok
Cuz ive struggled on.. uh vita stuff (which i have the solution now with a 12/12 vita team) img stuff and ps stuff iirc? Oh and fire...somehow (thanks badum..)
Yeah, which means -50% lightning dmg...which my account hates (as i own every lightning valk)
Fire and ice and phys got shafted
Ice is more neglected tbh
Fire and Lightning are close to equal in Part 2
Shame we won't be getting better supps for P1 valks atp
Its such a shame ice didnt even get a pt1 support
Like HoH was still around
HoHe got upgraded to Part 2 
Now HoH is
A lot better than she was
Oh and sw 
Coping too hard
Anyways
Hows Trio as a fire dps?
HoFi's DPS team didn't even change after getting the DKey 
Tbf HoFi's best pt1 team in 99.99% of scenarios was trio wasn't it?
Solid, but not BiS in anything
Compared to badum
Better
If no extra mechanics
Ok got it lol
FDD is better than Trio 
Well i dont own fdd
Oh wait- ignoring that-
Not really, by the end of P1 HoFi you used HoFi HoTr CN on Flower if your ranks were lacking
CN?
Interesting
Yeah, HoFi DPS and trio were different teams back then
There were some other uses for that comp, but idr them for sure rn
Makes sense, she has better Ignite than the fart HoFi has 
Hence the .1% 
It's not about Ignite xdd
Buffs?
Just better overall damage if you played the team properly ig
Ah
Not 100% sure here
Is it the same with HoFi dkey? 
HoFi Sparkle HoTr
Sparkle-
O wait, forgor she's Rite of Oblivion
Sparkle can't support HoFi 
More or so cope
Sparkle can't buff HoFi
So that's not a thing unfortunately
:(
Only thing she can activate is 3/3 leader
Then HoTr lead
HoFi's damage is cooked then for other reasons
Darn
Nobody can buff HoFi tho lol aside from HoTr and HoO
Right
Yup
Im end game player should i get new astral op ? Damn im stuck in ag3 i need to retain rl
Aop is only needed for Myriad t100 (arguably t50)
If you can afford every new valk + their weapon, you can consider aops on top
and they aren't a meaningful upgrade with only 1 copy in general, you'd need 2+
I'm not meaningful
server dependent ngl
unless you pull randomly, you should be fine in red lotus and even promote nirvana without any astralop
Nothing is 
Depends on a boss, but you prob donât need aop for staying in RL and occasionally jumping to NV, prob not gonna retain it though unless giga slacc or EU/NA and even there itâs boss dependent
If youâre stuck in ago 3, should probably first look at how you play/teams you lack, because in that case Aop probably wonât help
Can go check refs for bosses on Bili/yt and try replicating and also learn to scale them down to your investment/ pick up concepts that are universally applicable like the ult sequence, openers for similar comps etc
Ah shit wrong pic
I retained ag3 bcz i didnt get new coralie instead of using sirin hotr and sparkle
Sirin HotR sparkle can retain RL. Maybe even promote depending on bracket.
Should definitely have been possible to promo a3 with that imo but might depend on ranks
but also, this circles back to what I said:
should probably first look at how you play/teams you lack, because in that case Aop probably wonât help
why pull aop if you don't even have a support/dps that works for her
(coralie)
in hi3 you first build your team fully and then aop/elf is like your last improvement before going for ranks
it does kinda fit the narrative tho
learn how to get to your best without aop before thinking about getting it
which is mostly the Redlotus/Nirvana border
that's where I understood why aop is actually needed past that point
before that, you can improve without needlessly putting your crystals in debt

yall think this can be improved to 800 A3? i think my rotation is wrong
I have no p2 SD chars⊠help
absolutely, if you can record a run for recommendations!
lp fdd vbm (oor switch fdd and vita around ig) is enough bruteforce
maybe hoh lp mps also
for side stages its very bruteforceable
so mention if there's any part you're struggling with tho
yo
song dps or loa song no badum
whats the loa options u got
dudu ps uhh i think thats it
(as dpses)
Well yeah those are the only other 2 LoA dpses outside of Badum
and it could be mistaken that i only have those 2 as loa valks
abyss, ma i can just loa the shit out of the boss

where does one get 10 battlesuit supply cards
you didn't get the coralie mail thingy i take it (i mean im not sure if you can get it rn)
cuz that one gave 5 cards
unfortunately stress test doesn't give battlesuit cards
are you by any chance close to a log in milestone? those give cards
used it before i got the returnee stuff
closest is 130 days away
you don't
it's set up in a way you end up with extra
rewards cap at 1300 and you get 1500 overall i think
ah thats good to know...
you can ignore this then as long as u dont have issues with the other tasks
im bad at logging in frequently so it kinda is an issue but its fine the crystals donât matter all that muchđ
I did it but if I didnt switch or use weap skill before ar I can get higher ones
new coralie use ATK stat or sp/s ?
free points if you ult more in p1
throwing away so much damage
also, try to SO into JDS right before the big thing hits the ground and starts p2
if you do it right, you hit Sa and can pop the first SD breakpoint asap
also since you have Teri, just end p1 faster by using the first badum shift
so instead of SO, you just Super QTE into JDS
what i should buy ?
see the 2nd #đ¶beginner-help pin
Do you have all the dkeys
no i'm missing Abyss Flower and Taixuan sword
abyss flower is in reserve works 
Oh is it?
yes
Didnât know they added it
xy sword is the play
What about sword?
still as rare as a needle in a haystack
Ping
Just in case they go for af
also ||next patch has a dk box that DOES NOT have xy sword||
hmmm with 700 maybe dkey box worth it
depends on your goals
i have 210 left
Classic
||Do they have stellar keys ||
am I alice in wonderland?
Spend the rest on pulls
Prob unless you want to swipe
If you want to swipe, then synergy
You look like a đ to me
Yes
3 s slow mode is diabolical in gameplay or beginner help, you want to write an advice, send one msg and a dude will just do what you say without reading your clarification msg because of slow mode
Just become sAIraan
Crazy
Same, Iâm used to writing shorter msgs cuz of mmo
Not cut to be a prof 
this but League and shit formatting elsewhere
i might make the cut someday
just need more time on my hand
What do you even need to become a prof
u just apply
having no life
#st-freya-faq is right there
Ig itâs hidden for me by default
Well, 2000 quality msgs here sounds like a pain and prob will never happen, but alright ty for gameplay help ram sensei 
it's faster than you think, i probably have more than 10 times of that amount
sorry for being late
i would prob start with fdd doing basics and the firth one hitting sa then you can do her wp and ult then switch btwn jds and fws (u should be able to get away with a jds ult in her first entry as well)
then for p2 just as sa is about to throw her thingy u can SO pick jds, do her thing and switch btwn fws and her until fdd's buff is about to run out so you would refresh it if u didnt kill the boss alr
i hope this is understandable
oh my last message didnt ping lmao, here
Wait, what's SO?
Got it
you can use the spiders ability to hookshot there
meta wise most ppl pick coralie and helia since they are the newest so probably will have most use
but if you have another character you really like feel free to pick for them too
cool thank you
I am going to pick RS' weapon and FWS' weapon

Rip
outside of the daily whats a good way to get equipment exp fast? im playing through the P1 story now lol on about chapter 20
coins
Their so expensive tho...
well you wanted a good way
thats arguably the best way esp if youâre rich
you can also salv useless weapons (iirc higher rarity ones give equip exp lemme check)
does fws have extra buffs on her ult if she casts it after shift
nvm just salv useless weapons for coins and buy equip exp with them @foggy vapor
oops wrong pic my badd
keep whatever looks cool and just salv the rest
she has her general SO buffs due to augmented ascension but no buffs specifically related to her ult afaik
ok good to know
got 748 with pretty much the same run just faster execution
i miss fish skip
does the 2 eva fish skip still work?
all que bugs got patched iirc
It ends her time stop she launches if sheâs the leader
Also she doesnât get a dmg buff from it since her ult is always getting buffed as if she was in aug,ent ascension mode
So make sure to use it after the time stop is over
What is the best team for current abyss boss if i don't have JDS?
Available LoA supports are LP, PAWS, FDD, RS, HoHe.
u got badum?
yes
When did the valk come out again? đŽ
ok, I will try that
July 25th last year
And we just patched all the bugs 
Well, in the end of August
ah
u can do like 740 for sure, maybe 750 but the dmg might be an issue
Wtf 740
Anyway i got
if only there was a ds ref maker đ
be the change u want to see
my ds run is so old now
i was joking i did upload a ds ref
im +2 on it now though
hoping to get +3 cause i accidentally submitted a songque score
https://youtu.be/FNA0hTHxI1s do u see a +1
Hmmm
Tempting to look at a ref
Why does 6d feel so.big
because it is
Hmm ill do some more blind runs first
Ok first of all. In phase 1, fws doesnt finish off the hp with ult. Theres a slight sliver of hp hahaha
did u gather
Yes
đ
do cora heavenly link before fws ult and see if that kills
you still have breach up with that line
i tried vbm weapon to approximate higher dist, p2 im not really sure about but p1 is 878 if you fws combo after the ult and songque qte
that's a lot more than sliver

i slivered đ
I got p1 880. Thank god jds qte us nuff
Now i slacc
yeah i dont think theres a ton more you can do
why are u doing badum wa at the start
max hp reduction
but ur using wa later anyways
yeah after it takes damage
so what
so it loses less hp than if i did it earlier
sounds delulu
i didnt watch the rest of the video
ill do it later
thanks for the help idk why i thought it worked like that, 756
can someone help pls i suck at puzzles đ
What im hearing is. More pts for me
it worked tysm!!
np bestie
The trick is to go backwards
ds is god
true 
good thing i was told how to improve my score cause i accidentally submitted a s*ngque score
fwiw the teri run double rings but doesn't get to make use of the any of kiana's shifts for the last ring lol
it's so wasteful and sad lol
or at least the two runs i ref'd off of
it's still super early for NA
but yeah it's definitely been a SA thing
i just expected the higher dist to eventually make the gap larger
but here we are still seeing it after all this time
badumj ust happens to be one of the longer shifts so yea
sushang was much shorter no
sushang cheats with time stop during part of the animation so yes
dno if u call it cheat but yea, at least u do see extra shift pretty much always used in ma
i'd call LoA a cheat overall but that's just me
dats fair
i didn't mean it seriously or literally. It's a bit of a common exaggerated phrase to say it that way
MA is different since it's sus anis
you're tell me that sa in nirv didn't need more than one SO...
i could have tried with ds..
fml
u do want 2 SO
PS literally gets time stop during the animation. And it's funny comparing it to FWS who gets it afterwards. https://i.imgur.com/0mBHD08.png
if you're using teri then 2SOs is better but not by much because you don't get to make full use of it effectively
you mean this?
yeah
the refs im seeing rn are just using one đ idk if its just that i didn't see enough refs
i found that this is a scam actually
at least fdd has the same wording on her SO
and clock still ticks in MA

Should definitely be a toggle..
um try checking bmos and cry andoric
During or after 
why?
i mean toggles are going to be on or off
Yeah
but it being off doesn't really give you any benefit since it's complete time stop
I mean like agh
you're making it sound like you want it to be during or after but i'm just saying there's no toggle like that in the game
i guess
oh, lemme look for that first bc i don't know these ppl
Sorry
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Divine key should be LLRR (mine expired)
i mean anyone can dream but at that point it just sounds like we're hoping for things for our own convenience and benefit rather than working around how it already is
Ur off hiatus? 
Or am i stupid and was that someone else 
there are advantages of FWS having the time stop after too. It prob works better in MA because the shift gets sus ani while the time stop lets you do stuff like CA for free
Yeah i did notice how u can fill up the bar -> SO -> shift -> CA in the timestop
i initially wrote semi hiatus next to my name
i took it off after something in my life was past
but i'm starting to realize my life is just as busy or not as occupied with hi3 as before so i'm still not around as much lol
I forget, does fws timestop happen during stellar shift drum sequence or is it only after
i don't really want to change my name again because i don't want to cause more attention/distractions than necessary lol
After
and yeah ty
Ok ty
Fairrr
only the last part of the breath attack has timestop
yeah i was just about to get to that
https://i.imgur.com/X9ybyK9.png
now i'm confused because it's faster to not hold the button but for less damage
but i assume not holding the button will make you miss the TFD
2.4s sounds pretty big to miss out on
Is 825 doable? I think Bita is slower than FDD
this does still make me wonder is the extra SO that significant if its used with this much hp on sa tho? i do see its faster but shouldn't that still be more than fine with dreamseeker?
wat u tryna say
well you'd also have more HP left than that with DS
but yeah that's what they said above, the score gap for DS on that boss isn't massive
u wont have ring with ds if u are tryna follow that tho
i mean if there's enough dmg then this boss doesn't require another SO?
that's what im tryna ask about đ
u do use 2 shifts in the end for kiana, so the extra shift does come in
ah alrighty
like dmg wise its 2 shifts total, which u get access to with s teri
but ari for the end bit is locked behind ss
with ds u get only 1 shift but like if u assume u have the dmg to not need the shift
then sure ig
oh alrighty that's good to know!
ig, but i feel like u dont have dat dmg
but also if we assume u have the dmg, we could theoretically take it to the extremes by just assuming we play in agony or soomething in which case a lot of things will be lot less relevant 
đ
man.. im just tryna find a boss this patch whos nirv version is DS friendly
even if its just myriad since demooting while myriading isnt that unusual
trust there'll be one ig, but "myriading" is alr a pretty big thing depending where u r

eu, looks slack rn
i wanted to try s2 paws on lighting clock to see if i can retain or myriad that but i get slapped by the fact that the ugly qua pig is just b4 clock and i have no qua valks for it
u cna try to +100 on qua pig ig

but promoting is a lot more likely imo
eu myriading is slacc af tho
im gonna just try not to get -100 with my dudu team now 
for pig i think i have sparkle
so should be able to cope
as far as "DS friendly" goes this boss is one of them
tbh idk what to do for that ugly pig
bc i either try and suffer or i use that as a n excuse to enter nirv on that pig so i can escape it (weird thinking but its working for me rn, since i can't find a nirv retain cycle for me this patch)

âŹïž
hmm hows na myriad in general tho..
are they slack by any chance
ofc slack prob like eu
DS is obviously always gonna be lower but about 30 points or below is as low as you'll get it

i hear that na a bit more slack than eu but, if he is looking to be able to t50, u prob can t100
I mean the ranking here isn't significant, it's super early and all of NA plays in the last 2 hours 
it was more so just for the score
thats true too
yeah that's a fair point
For eu it honestly depends on a boss
Everyone malded on HoI for some reason
790 wasnt even top 50

yeah i wouldnt have been t50 in eu on that boss
i just saw this ref btw and tried to copy dont have dmg 
man this is depressing
just dont look at refs 
srs tho idk what to do on qua pig, i hate him for me not having a qua valk to use on him... should i just dodge him while being in nirv
where are the gene limit off jww refs that i can follow
insanity +1 for every ref i look at
fr
the only other boss im not looking forward for is starless
that's why i prefer doing my own refs 
at least you're going insane at your own pace
real, life is rough

you do your own refs because you prefer it
i do my own refs because no one skipped teri
we are not the same
starless gonna suck ass for me too unironically because no FoV and it should be FoV boss

i have to do my own refs because asa always asks for 60 fps ref so i can prove him it's possible on mobile 
we twinnin
i do feel a bit scammed that i skipped teri bc fws bosses were doable without her and then ps comes out and teri is insane for her
tbf it's just sadge that teri exists, i got annoyed after MA
like runs with her are always braindead
dudu teri also pretty good, just hasnt rerun often
dont tell me about dudu teri anymore
sowwy
it cost me hard pity dudu and double hard pity teri 

i skipped dudu so that wasnt a consideration for me
oh btw how bruteforcable is using ps jds flex on physical img boss btw (rl)
can i even +100 that within any p2 except for dudu đ„ž
idk, no one can rly predict brackets i feel like
idk what the situation is rn but with that kind of cope isn't it better to just run HoO
i would say there's no way you +100 but unfortunately i think there is way
tho idk phys might be strong enough to bruteforce faster
well you're not beating a Dudu that plays properly

so the question is just "will there be 3 of them ?"
or just use fdd bruteforce 
i remember there was time we tried playing HoH on that boss on phys weather
because ice was that strong
daym
Hof not hoh*
HoH too
I tried Ely HoH in NV and scored like 760 or something
while my s0 PE scored 790

provided, my ely was ss2
It's just the case of the boss having only 1 proper valk to kill it, so if you don't have that you just throw whatever is stronger at the time
Sci teri?

For HoD that's also because it always was img weather and not phys
you know why i hate dudu
it's because "1 valk to kill it" is always her case
aop teri
it was also BKE
BK had plenty alternatives and was even just bad before AF
fuck dudu tbf
on Jizo alternatives were just to cope to matter before we got proper good supports for phys
TP only got hecate pri in like 5.6 i think
or even later
before that she wasn't even close
yeah later
the only real alternative on Jizo was dps SnS for some time but it was cope without griseo, so only in 5.8 did it become viable
or was it 5.7
maybe i should just +100 on sa (rl) so i can sleep on physical img boss (nirv) and just retain rl then get +100 on ignite wolf (rl) so i can sleep on starless in nirv
weird mindset but idk anymore
unfortunately i can't đ
but i can promote most rl cycles so i wanna make use of my trophies
5.8
then my memory is correct still, yay
5.7 is aponia and eden
who would've thoyught she lived til now
bro people were doomposting her to be only apo support
no one thought her set wouldn't be her bis either
ikr
it wasn't until later that we realised she just needs to exist for qte
just depends on whether you want to mald or not, saving promo for a cycle you can myriad is more xtals but if you dont actually want to play the cycle it doesnt matter
i remember people even trying marg on her (it worked with ults)
nah a lot of people figured that out fast
mostly because we wanted it for HoT
not fast
first bke rotation after 7T people still mostly used marg on her
so a whole 3 days
turg took so time to stick, but she was out of Handel quickly
well yes because handel was used on HT
i mostly meant turg ig, just not worded properly
tbh i don't mind trying, im just being held back by only having DS and my atk still being a wip đ
but since i noticed the slack in eu rn it made me wonder if i can taste nirv for a bit, or at a minimum get myriad for the lil bit of crystals and so i can actually get its emblem for once
But turg was figured out on that first BK rot
on the last day of it
in sea and NA at least
on eu we figured it out during second day
its more so for personal preference, my og goal is to just stay in rl which is no issue at all
wat ur score rn anyways
cant you match the ds ref earlier
ill be in the next cycle if i promote this cycle lmao
yeah im not worried about it tbh
im only worried about pig and starless
as in like prob highest odd to t100 this cycle on nirv, if he was in nirv
other cycles non loa gets rough
true but i think nowadays you don't even need to retain to get into t100 
no way this cycle is too slack that i can enter with rl...
nah
no idea for eu
in case that last part is me its a she đ„ž

just consider eu to always be slacc 
motivation to play -100000000
yeah been noticing that
rl so dead 3 attempts is enough for me to +100 /hj
they thought IMG wasnt bad enough
tbf RL was always dead
hi i only just got back. what does good mean to you?
My personal thoughts are she has team breach and we've seen how that is like for sena and vita. I expect her to be a top option often but other options are still close enough if you have to skip her just like all other part 2 valks, especially for RL and below. Get her early in the patch if you can afford it guaranteed for meta, but otherwise if you have non meta reasons or you cannot guarantee her full cost, it's not a big deal to skip.
still remember how i promoted to NV with lvl 81 acc and lvl 50 priarms on almost all of my valks cuz poorge
when i just broke through
ig i used to struggle bc my atk and dorm level used to be low
still had phantom trophies
that's fair, i also lacked that but i had full teams back then, still no lvl 65 priarms
nah no way
yes
did u retain
first one i did, it was andrius boss
and yumei slacced
so i got ahead by 1 pts
tho i had to level my mobi pri to lvl 65 and also two bows for fish cuz i was trying both
is the second bow that blue bow per chance
same at first
||im just wondering if either coralie or HLE would be better for me...assuming no more hle changes.. đ|| but idk 
imo you already missed a portion of the fdd shill so i would encourage you to skip and settle for what's later
ended up getting hofi dkey
i think what's later is still in beta so you'll have to wait for now and maybe wyv will put out a video later
yeah well i think you know the answer to that
and it'll be the same thing if you want to consider fdd later too
Huh?
Oh u mean pulling old stuff?
yeah
Oh yeah i knew the cons
But i love me some ws
I also get imaginary coverage
||also the free HoTr made it all the more better||
||next patch i mean||
So u think 8.5 would just be better?
speaking from this point when you already missed some of FDD's use cases
i don't think i need to repeat this lol
if you want you can list out the cons to me to make sure you really know everything i'm thinking of
For skipping fdd?
no for getting hofi dkey
sorry those were two separate thoughts. let me edit that
||yeah possibly. well you can still get lucky||
tho she's still a damn good support 
but idk if breath even has stuff she supports
For FDD?
Oh wait im stu-
I have FWS and Helia.
No sushang, no dudu
Oh and well i do own vita
anyway you cited img coverage as a reason but i don't think you're getting much effective coverage overall even with your lack of dudu
is your trio team well ranked? It doesn't sound like it
I skipped FDD
I can get ss HoO from er
And S2 HoFi from pwo
maybe it'll still be viable on RL but at that point i do think you can still bruteforce with other teams
Even if they're 12/12?
Stop right there, Captain! 
It is currently not recommended to invest in HoTr, and it is unlikely that it will be feasible to invest into her in the future. Please see Professor Sairaan's summary [here](#đ¶beginner-help message).
s0 hotr has some pretty notorious sp issues
Even in trio?
the cost is less in trio but it can still happen
the consequence of it may not be as bad alternating ult cycles but
it can still be like you need to turn on QTE for the extra weapon unlock for extra sp
which can still cost you
for RL i have no idea how important this will really be
i mainly recall this issue personally against diabolic in nirv
||redacted||
Just wait for hotr DLC, it is inevitable
i thought breath meant reduction when i read that
but anyway RL fights might be short enough that it might be ok. It was mainly an issue because it was nirv = longer fights
That one was a particularly bad case too tbh
no transition to farm, no sp pack, needed like 5 rots
but overall a shorter fight doesn't mean much if everyone else's fights are shorter too
we got the opener to farm off of instead :^)
yes
Oh yeah breach
regular HTR teams you could do no ult rots alternating and it's fine
Trio you lose the special qte if you don't and HFI just doesn't function
Dang
Even if u include 10sp on SO from HoFi
/j ofc
Uh seriously tho
I could just put sp cost red or sp/s on HoTr stigs?
Right?
sp red doesn't work
Oh boo
sp/s is mandatory and it is assumed you have it
Uh..lemme see my htr stigs
joint burst isn't considered an ult
(does not trigger aslaug on hit either)
playing jds dps for fun, whos her best dps at this day and age?
Her best support is a LoA leader I'm pretty sure 
thats obvious but what if i want to play wod jds
o alright
idk how vita compares for her at S0 tbh
would fdd not be better than sena
FDD doesn't have shadow star tag and I think Sonk needs the 2 long buffs for her SO rot to work
You can try it tho
I got .33 and .45 and .38 sp/s... i dont think that enough
She has LoA and grail tags
Didnt reply. Dang
decent enough I'd say
Do i need 6 sp/s..
Ah boo
that's why we usually got both when they were relevant
I got .44, .45, and .38 now
leave it at that
also gurdil im surprised you quit and yet still active and well versed in hi3 knowledge
I'm bored sometimes 
ye
are u pulling evernight
And do i get dmg affixes on the other side?
i came back for her
doesn't really matter, her dmg is negligible
Okay then my affixes stay the way they are
I made some questionable decisions coupled with shit luck so now I'm kinda stuck 
maybe
there's always a way to do it, the question is how little can you do while still being able to
and you'll have to figure that out on each boss
if you really don't want to think ever and don't mind the drop in score
idt having it on or off affects the special qte
I mean it depends on if im close to ulting or not close if im like a few sp off, ill keep it on, if i have like 120 sp then ill keep it off
Oh okay
U always qte into HoFi with the joint ult right?
Am I crazy for thinking she looks like sora?
Just played through the nagazora arc and they have the same damn eyes
yes
I feel like every time I see hi3 game news it's this or a dkey
What's up with that
didnt realise youre cela 
remember seeing you in NV sometimes xd
might i ask what were those decisions?
if you feel more comfortable we can move to offtopic
oldge
soft quit on Sirin patch, came back for a bit with Luna/CE but mostly was doing dumb stuff in RL
last I ever played was on Vita patch
oh we quit almost at the same time then lol, i quit during LV patch after pulling her and half a brick for HoS
Red Lotus or Real Life?
returned during bita, pulled her and sparkle, quit again
why not both

and now im back to toxic ex hi3 getting to NV again 
E2 cat and got dumpstered on Fate stuff
e2 cipher?
like that one
https://youtu.be/YStcL7Bcdos
I swear she helped
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ye
but now there's 4 things I want and nothing to get them 
?
đ
Is she cute at least
hot, rather
well duh
Worth
that already ran out 

Why is she hitting like a Truck? Isn't she a Car?
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Luckily I listened to that prydwen review and burned all my jades on that piece of shit Jingyuan release and uninstalled the game after being ruined
woah weird hi3 ref
RC HB, looks like an old ice team 
just need hoh there
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money where
should have just saved
i have 513 pulls
on where
Oh cool
hsr
Im still alive
oh ok
How likely am i to retain abyss
0%
or maybe higher idk not sea player
Thanks kanlao
prof soon 
no ao = demote 
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its cooked
100%, I asked everyone in your pool to not do their runs
how likely are you to login again
0% until soft pity
Atk jump jump atk?
looks like a CA
Looks like the last attack from their attack sequence after shift imo so maybe they're cancelling BAs? Atk atk jump atk jump atk maybe ?
Otherwise it's prob a CA
yes actually, got it
was slow though so jumpsec 
Damn those are some crazy cancels then
https://youtu.be/10d7LnCFd-s?si=IHIFJ1EKSqaPoaTb Is there anything I can do to score higher? In my ref they can trigger songque qte from coralie's ultimate evasion but idk how they do it. Then they were able to get SO at the end, I assume that's from ranks, right?
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atk eva atk jump jump atk
u cant get it cuz ur eva on cd
so at the end comes from ss teri
And your eva is on CD cuz you didn't evade the attacks after FDD's Stellar Shift
there r none for him to evade cuz his timing is diff
that atk he meant to evade occurs at 912
in his case



