💁gameplay-help

[vernal terrace]

Vitabad

[half hatch]

did you make sure to use the right signets and buffs ? I had no problem clearing with vita though it took longer than usual

[oak mountain]

eh prolly not, also was a skill issue that she died, shouldve predicted the dude was gonna attack 😭 using hohe rn cause shes less button mashing and my controller is pmo

[half hatch]

yeah Hohe should do fine she's still really good especially since she got her dkey

[oak mountain]

cleared the big lion (forgor his name) faster than w vita, i def messed smth up with her

[vernal terrace]

Houdou

[rare iris]

Hotdog

Even though it's a feline

Hotdog

[vernal terrace]

[oak mountain]

She wont stop

while typing she is STILL attacking

is she making fun of me for being so ass at the game

[elfin parrot]

btw this isn't really a chat channel (note rule 1 is to stay on topic). You may want to bring it to #🎮honkai-chat.

If you're looking for actual help please be more direct about what's troubling you and we can try to address it.

i do understand sometimes natural casual conversations can lead to another help topic and a little bit of that is tolerated

but overall try to refrain from it when it is avoidable, esp in regards to starting a talk on your own

i want to say the ER character dialogue pop up at the end of each floor can be kind of jank and can skip certain checks in your actions, leading to persisting actions despite cessation of inputs

although attempting to try it now, i'm seeing hohe stop before the dialogue came up so in most cases that shouldn't happen. Maybe some huge lag spike happened and skipped over that too

at any rate it's harmless and i'm sure you're just having or poking fun at observing the jank happening

[oak mountain]

wouldnt be surprised if its my internet 😭 my bad btw i shouldve been more specific
was pokin fun and tryna see if it was smth i couldve fixed, it fixed itself when i went to the next stage. ty for responding though ❤️‍🩹

[elfin parrot]

all good. but yeah just try to be a bit more clear and direct in the future so people don't think it's non-help talk, and wind up neglecting you or even worse getting caught with rule 1

[digital sky]

How much better is coralie² than coralie¹ in vita dps?
(Assuming Vita HoFi Coralie/Coralie)

[open bone]

Lots. She’s got stronger buffs and is faster

Plus if Vita dps is best in slot mech probably has type advantage and FDD can add some damage there

Iirc FDD’s buffs are significantly better in ARC and moderately better in SO

[modern yew]

https://youtu.be/sjkdlsyUKvI?si=OwthgU3OaoSfKRTu
U can use this as a refrence

[last hull]

Does Trio have anymore bosses/weathers or have they all been taken

[quasi pier]

trio still has flower

[last hull]

Oh dudu disn't take that one?

[quasi pier]

no, she only excels if you can beat a img boss by piercing the core, flower isn't like that

[last hull]

Oh

Same mechanic as PE

Alright then makes sense

[vernal terrace]

Most of Dudu's weather's are either Phys or Flux anyways

[quasi pier]

yeah dudu is just PE 2.0

[vernal terrace]

Plus having TA's shield break and stun

[idle abyss]

does anyone have a guide for apho 2 false bay mechanisms? as usual i'm missing that SINGULAR one and i'm about to rip my skin off

i tried looking it up but the guides are all for chests

[open bone]

Who should I load for MA HoV? I’m at like 20% rn and I would like to be at 17% when it finalizes. I think I’m about capped for Husk and Heimdall but I’m at 30720 for HoV (current strategy is HoFI RC JK)

RC has wep and Hofi has sigs, otherwise it’s cope gear

[spiral raven]

does ely have anything

ely rc jk maybe

[open bone]

Light string and Peary. I was scoring about 700 less than Hofi with that but it might just be a skill issue

[spiral raven]

having a wep is big diff yea

[dark phoenix]

maybe you missed the door mechanism at the base, it open another door to the garage, it can take you back to the lobby too

[idle abyss]

is it the one that lets u get to the second floor?

[dark phoenix]

this

[idle abyss]

omfg thank you i thought that was only for returnjng to base

[open bone]

I think it is not possible to clear whole BP now but you can get fairly close

Probably like 90 smth?

[civic yacht]

Thanks!

and is there anything worthy that i should i buy from BP
looking at the shop, it seems like bp season ends in 8.5
so i can at most get 10 balls

[open bone]

Have you bought knight bp or do you just mean reserve works

[civic yacht]

reserve works

[open bone]

Crystallum doesn’t expire anymore so you can save. Priority targets are any divine keys you don’t have, then ranks on HoHe and Hofi if you have their stellar keys, then uh whatever you want mostly but you can try filling out missing gear on teams like trio if you have the battlesuits or save for next dkey release or save for battlesuits

[civic yacht]

oh i see
damn
thanks!

what timezone is it using for this timings

[open bone]

I think -4

Er

-5

But I haven’t stayed up to see the transition so idk for sure

[weak drum]

eh 4am reset time, isnt that -6

[lapis raven]

ez t1

[weak drum]

since im -7 and hi3 resets at 3am for me

[weak drum]

what the fuck is that resolution

[lapis raven]

240p

[weak drum]

why

[lapis raven]

frames

[weak drum]

i sea

[lapis raven]

aha +1

[weak drum]

i swear the quality is worse now

[lapis raven]

aha +3

[fierce crypt]

tf graphic

[half hatch]

Holy pixels

[weak drum]

i’ll take it for a first run

wtf 809

[full trench]

why are you not 809

[lapis raven]

cos idh cx unlike u

[full trench]

stop being poor

[lapis raven]

?

[full trench]

whats confusing

have more xtals so u can pull cx

[weak drum]

oh is her bis fdd now

oh my god i accidentally used sera

welp imma restart

wait what did i use sera again

holy shit i picked chen lmao

[vernal terrace]

Now I see why Sera is awful at S

[weak drum]

i was wondering how my dudu missed a crit

then i realized

[fierce crypt]

Just crit

[lapis raven]

whats 809’s gears

[weak drum]

full s0 fdd vita paws chen

[lapis raven]

cx :smh:

[iron basin]

what am i suppose to do here

[half hatch]

Buy the sand egg from pardo's shop

[wild lily]

When does it become q string when lvl 81?

[spiral raven]

u breakthru? if u breakthru alr, then prob next cycle or the one after

and it becomes superstring

[digital sky]

Could vita dps work on next boss? no coralie²

[weak drum]

fdd wont even do much next abyss, its sd not tc

[quasi pier]

i think they mean HoI not Sa

[weak drum]

owh

i mean lightning res but its not much, can work

[quasi pier]

how geared is your sirin

no wait, I think you said it's s1 sirin

[shrewd python]

Is there any way of getting a higher score for fdd, Lp, vbm, dreamseeker?

[open bone]

Almost certainly yes, you’re in A3 so you should be scoring higher than that with the right dps

[shrewd python]

Also i don’t exactly understand what disturbance means lol

[open bone]

If you could record I could try to give more useful advice but if you’re just asking “can I mald more” my guess is yes

[shrewd python]

I’ll try record then and pray it sends with a big file size

[open bone]

Higher disturbance = tankier boss (and stronger, but that mostly doesn’t matter because modern battlesuits have so many iframes)

[open bone]

If you can’t post it here you can upload it to an unlisted YouTube video and then link it

[shrewd python]

I thought like agony or like blah blah determined how Tamky bosses r

[open bone]

The higher the tier it is the higher the disturbance

So RL has more disturbance than A3 and thus a tankier boss

This is relevant when comparing across servers (Sea might have a different A3 disturbance than EU) and also for the same boss at different times

If a boss has 500 disturbance one time and then 5 weeks later it reruns with 505 it’s tankier the second time

Even if both are RL

[weak drum]

dist doesnt always go up btw

[boreal eagle]

the higher the D the higher the def, hp, atk of the boss is

[open bone]

Yeah it can go up or down over time

[weak drum]

and honestly i still dont know how hoyo determines if an abyss is a down or up one

ppl theorized that its based on how bad/good the server performed but like, on some abysses where everyone did well, the dist still went down

well not everyone, most players*

[open bone]

My pet theory is it’s random because they’re trying to make sure you can’t just do the same run every time, and they’re just not good at that goal

[vernal terrace]

Isn't it by how many players did the boss?

[quasi pier]

probably some weird spaghetti code algorithm that determines dist

[open bone]

But there’s no evidence for this

[weak drum]

just a theory, A GAME THEORY

[shrewd python]

Honestly don’t really know what I’m doing with this team hahaha help esp at the falling ice and the glacier bit

[weak drum]

yeah i watched for 10 whole seconds and you’re just spamming random stuffs that you saw other people did didnt you

[shrewd python]

…yup.

guilty

please help

[weak drum]

imma try to record a ref while others (hopefully someone is lurking here) help ya out

[shrewd python]

Im so cooked thank you cheese

[open bone]

Try and have coralie’s ult actually hit the boss, or do WA Wa Jump attack WA

[dusty dagger]

why is coralie on the field for like ten thousand years

[open bone]

So you can actually get her buffs up fast

You’re wasting a lot of time with her

[shrewd python]

Wa is jump attack?

oh no weapon

[open bone]

Weapon active

[dusty dagger]

wtf stellar outburst in p1 in rl

[open bone]

I think you can probably also save your stellar outburst

[open bone]

A3

[dusty dagger]

that's even worse

[shrewd python]

Ohh

[open bone]

That way you can use it when part 2 starts and it insta sets all your buffs

That will also save you a lot of time

[shrewd python]

OHH

[half hatch]

For the opener try
Vbm WA -> ult that hits the boss as soon as it spawns -> WA -> swap to vita -> ult -> WA -> BAs until her bar is full -> CA -> swap to fdd and do her DPS shit

[dusty dagger]

down abyss

[half hatch]

Try to save SO for p2 to refresh buffs you're overkilling p1 like crazy

[boreal eagle]

in transition stay on vita shes fast to move while in mech form

[shrewd python]

ohh

Do u spam evade during transition?

[boreal eagle]

no need if u save AO

[shrewd python]

im so confused for that the ice just falls and stuff

Thanks daniel

[boreal eagle]

u just have to center the three doors things for sp i guess

[open bone]

Yeah the evasion lets you farm a bit of Ari but if you have burst saved you don’t need Ari

[shrewd python]

Doors?!?

[weak drum]

i completely forgot that i suck ass at making refs for others

[open bone]

At least 770 should be possible and probably 800+

[shrewd python]

I’ll try redo it

[open bone]

Honestly

[weak drum]

for transition, you gotta through the white portions in the black walls

[shrewd python]

Do u want me to send it still

[weak drum]

me when i suck

[vernal terrace]

[shrewd python]

Wait do u need to jump for wa?

[half hatch]

No

[open bone]

No, that’s only needed for 2 SO runs. The jump WA gets you stellar drain and buffs without using ult but you don’t need either

[weak drum]

holy shit timing the wa wa jump wa cora for opener is stupid

i literally hit hoi but it doesnt count

[open bone]

In this abyss

It’s a good tech to learn how to do but it shouldn’t be needed here

[shrewd python]

I got 782 with ur guys help LOL thank you

Should i still try go for 800+ or nah

Actually ill send the gameplay first

[open bone]

You can do it if you want to and you’ll probably learn something about the team by doing it but you won’t have to

782 will +200 because if they knew how to play they wouldn’t be A3

[weak drum]

ok is it actually a -50 when you use cora instead of paws and ds instead of chen

[open bone]

No you’re skill issuing

[shrewd python]

Oops why did it spoiler

[weak drum]

yey

[weak drum]

you didnt hit the boss with cora ult btw

[open bone]

Yeah

[shrewd python]

Oh do i need to time it

[open bone]

If you hit it you will see damage numbers

[weak drum]

yea

[open bone]

Yeah that’s how you get max buffs from it

[shrewd python]

Ohh

Ill try again and see and hope that i don’t mess up

[open bone]

Ideally you want to hit it exactly as it spawns but obviously in A3 the competition isn’t that stuff

GL

[shrewd python]

Thank you its hard work being a noob

[open bone]

We were all noobs at some point

for me it was like a month or two ago

[weak drum]

not me

[open bone]

Right, you still are

[weak drum]

my ass wtf i swear you’ve been here for like a year or two now

[weak drum]

[full trench]

wow u got fucking cooked

[weak drum]

stfu

[open bone]

I started on peregrine sword banner

[weak drum]

basically a year

[full trench]

btw coras attacks do 30% more damage in ring so dont end it early here

[weak drum]

keep spamming ye

[open bone]

Just gotta make sure you press ult right before the blue ring runs out

[weak drum]

squeeze in every last bit of dmg you can

[shrewd python]

With ult hit it was 780 but I didn’t realise I ended it early LOL i didn’t see

Ohhh got it

[weak drum]

imma blame 60fps for me being bad

[open bone]

why don’t you whale for a better computer

[shrewd python]

Im on 120fps but i don’t think it’s giving me much of an advantage LOL

[weak drum]

[half hatch]

I'm not even active for like 1 year wtf is your perception of time

[weak drum]

i swear qt has been here for awhile now

you’re mango ik you’re mango smh

[weak drum]

for really really close cut runs fps does matter

[vernal terrace]

[weak drum]

like cora breath skip

[vernal terrace]

QT is newer than me

[open bone]

[weak drum]

without 120fps then its just impossible (unless theres a 60fps run i havent seen)

[weak drum]

[half hatch]

4 Minutes left then I can finally do cope runs

[open bone]

Riley is my ex sensei

[weak drum]

so my hierarchy is like qt-> riley-> mango

[weak drum]

[vernal terrace]

[weak drum]

atleast im the oldest out of you all

[full trench]

how old do u think i am ches

[weak drum]

uh 13

[half hatch]

[full trench]

i meant in the server but thanks

[weak drum]

ohh, like 2-3

[full trench]

[weak drum]

whar

[vernal terrace]

[weak drum]

im 4-5

wait no im 5 now

[shrewd python]

Uhh im getting worse i did 778 with the not ending SO early and the ult thing

[weak drum]

cant wait for someone to mistake that im underaged

[shrewd python]

I give up LOL but thank you for the 780

[weak drum]

[shrewd python]

I will very gladly take it

[weak drum]

maybe skipping dmg for speed is more important in a3

[open bone]

Probably variance, you did something right the first run and it’s a bigger disadvantage to lose than the improvements are adding. I’ve done that several times with runs, had scores I can’t recreate or explain

[weak drum]

so true

[shrewd python]

mean variance standard deviation

[weak drum]

me when i cant rep the 3am run that i did

3am ches is always insane with his runs

[open bone]

Usually if I mald long enough I can figure out what past me was cooking by accident but

Sometimes past me is beyond my abilities to imitate

Anyway 780 should +200 you easily

[full trench]

maybe you did 2 basics and then let the 3rd animation play out but cancelled it before it actually hit

[shrewd python]

this is a different language to me LOL

[shrewd python]

Yeah thank you i beat the random guy with the PAWS and the CX

with my f2p ahh team

[vernal terrace]

Someone with Chenxue in A3

[open bone]

Gz

[shrewd python]

Everyone who has played in my bracket so far has CX

[open bone]

Probably the same kind of person who gets SS chenxue because they can’t outscore DS

[vernal terrace]

[shrewd python]

Idk if it’s a SEA thing

[quasi pier]

"they look cool so I pulled. i don't know what they do but they look cool"

[full trench]

probably they're in a3 because they pull ops instead of valks and weapons

[open bone]

Not wrong

Yeah if you’re in A3 with gacha astral ops either you are bad at pulling or bad at playing

Probably both

[quasi pier]

sss aop with no weapon

[vernal terrace]

[open bone]

[shrewd python]

I mean fair thats why im still rocking with john Honkai

He looks so goofy

[open bone]

Dreamseeker is really quite good but this patch I’ve had quite a few times where I get out scored by bad chenxue players

Depressing really

[vernal terrace]

I can't say anything

[open bone]

Sorry that shade wasn’t aimed at you Riley

[shrewd python]

is AstralOp important?

[open bone]

I’m talking about people in my brackets

[quasi pier]

unless you're aiming for nirvana no

[shrewd python]

I want to keep using john Honkai

[quasi pier]

ds is good enough

[vernal terrace]

It's alright
Anyone with Vita will out score me anyways

[open bone]

In nirv yes, and it can help you +100 RL more reliably, but I am comfortably RL with DS

And this is my third patch playing

[shrewd python]

oh wow

[vernal terrace]

Stayed in RL most of this patch

[shrewd python]

Prior to p2 i was RL but then i left the game and now I’m in agony

Literally

[vernal terrace]

Getting to forbidden is more of a feat than getting to Nirv

[open bone]

Yeah catchup in this game is hard. At least Blastmetal is actually a good support for FDD

I was stuck coping with her as third for paws last patch and that was suffering

[digital sky]

S1 1/4
So no

[digital sky]

Also no HoTr

[digital sky]

Sorry i meant the ignite boss
Does HoFi have enough ignite?

[quasi pier]

she should

[digital sky]

I hope...
I could either do Teri dps..or Vita dps..m

[lapis raven]

@weak drum ya bro

fun ass lobby

[lapis raven]

ok im better

[full trench]

vitabad

[lapis raven]

vita can probs do 810+ too

i was SOing too early in p2

instead of insta SO late SO is better and thats stupid

[dusty dagger]

Why late

I haven't played boss yet

When was the last time ana was in abyss actually

[half hatch]

7.7

[dusty dagger]

[lapis raven]

so vuln kicks in

[dusty dagger]

Vuln doesn't insta kick in? Tf

[digital sky]

Hows Vita dps on the ignite boss thats up rn?
Vita HoFi Coralie¹*

In rl ofc

[vagrant fractal]

I think she scores somewhere between 0 and 1000

[cunning gull]

i doubt that sirin would be used atp considering dis diff and whatnot and it looks like u don't have fdd so that's your next best option
im too lazy to try that team tho so can't give score

[last hull]

What’s the average D range in KR nirv nowadays

[quasi pier]

his sirin is s1

also apparently sirin scores pretty well

[stray zinc]

I just started playing and I got Coralie, is there something I should be pulling for speicifcally like her gear or smth?

[quasi pier]

yeah get her weapon

[stray zinc]

Which supply thing is that

Is it equipment?

[quasi pier]

yeah equipment supply

[stray zinc]

Also why can't I use her in the story??

Like she doesnt show up

[quasi pier]

can't use part 2 valks in part 1 story

[stray zinc]

Oh-

Interesting

Also any youtubers you'd recommend. I tried finding some people who actively talk about Impact 3rd to maybe look at some updated guides and what not adn safe to say they're very little. Also Youtubes search algorithim seems to suck bad too XD

[quasi pier]

honestly this is the best place for updated information, most youtube guides and videos get outdated pretty quickly

[stray zinc]

So i've learnt. Glad that this is here at least XD

[cunning gull]

it does favour her but like atp the standard for her is sss sirin + sparkle + ranked hotr

[quasi pier]

yeah you do need all that but if you do have it, it scores as well as fdd team without chenxue

[cunning gull]

hmm interesting

[dusty dagger]

any yt guides you find will be worse than just asking here

[stray zinc]

Not surprised. The youtuber I was watching for like a 2 hour beginner guide kept saying to join the discord XD so

[dusty dagger]

Not really much point to guides since they can only really discuss general scenarios and not edge cases

[dusty dagger]

Yeah that guy also set a 6h slowmode in the help channels one time and fucked everyone over

[formal wigeon]

that was an honest mistake tbh

[dusty dagger]

Was it really

@lament prairie pls confirm

[stray zinc]

Wait what??? Like the same person XD

[dusty dagger]

Yeah

[formal wigeon]

yeah, we pretty much all learned right there how bad the handling of slow mode was

[stray zinc]

Their name was like WTHIDE on youtube or smth XD

[formal wigeon]

and that reducing it didn't reduce all current timers with it

[stray zinc]

Too funny XD

[lament prairie]

how was it an honest mistake

[dusty dagger]

[lament prairie]

it was a stupid mistake not an honest mistake

[dusty dagger]

@vernal bronze

Your sins forever haunt you

[formal wigeon]

I mean he did fuck up, but there wasn't malicious intent

[dusty dagger]

Lack of malice but still stupid

[stray zinc]

I feel like mistakes don't often have malicious intent behind them XD

[dusty dagger]

Truly a memes moment

[lament prairie]

no but the fact that he imposed a 6h slowmode instead of a 5-10min one was ridiculous

I think even he will agree it was stupid

[dusty dagger]

Didn't his pins get interrupted anyway

[lament prairie]

yes because slowmode doesn't apply until after a message has been sent so it achieved absolutely nothing

[formal wigeon]

anyways, as for yt things you can watch, there's basically just Wyverein for some basic number crunching/comparison (beware of spoilers tho if you care about those as they cover CN beta)

and after that it's numerous channels for boss strats/refs

[lament prairie]

also I'm easily ragebaited by this bc I was actively helping people in the channel at the time and I got completely locked out of the channel for 6 whole ass hours with no way to lift it

[dusty dagger]

And she lost her og join date

Omegalul

[lament prairie]

yep that too

[dusty dagger]

I also lost mine

[lament prairie]

my new join date marks the day of the incident

[dusty dagger]

Because something pissed me off and I left the server

[formal wigeon]

oh right you tried to leave and come back but ti didn't lift it either

[dusty dagger]

And I realised I was stupid

So I went back

[lament prairie]

I go told to leave and rejoin by mods

and I was so mad when it did nothing

at least I screenshotted my roles before I left but bruh

[dusty dagger]

Tf was he even trying to pin lol

[lament prairie]

idk but it was like 7 messages

[dusty dagger]

The fuck

Why

[lament prairie]

it's memes

[dusty dagger]

Also the mf could've just as easily deleted any interrupting messages

Which is worlds better than 6h slowmode

[last hull]

Who, memes?

[dusty dagger]

Who tf else

[last hull]

[last hull]

I think it was some updated AW/AL guide? Idr it was so long ago

I just remember him making a 2hr slowmode

[dusty dagger]

No singular guide needs 7 messages worth of text bruh

Then again this is the same guy who made a 2h beginner video

Which now that I think about it that's completely unnecessary

[formal wigeon]

way too detailed with stuff that gets outdated in weeks

and now he's trying to do it again

[dusty dagger]

It should be like

At least 4 times shorter

[lament prairie]

what

[last hull]

He is just very verbose and technical like me ig

[dusty dagger]

I guarantee you I can make one that lasts less than 30 minutes

[lament prairie]

cayguide pls

[dusty dagger]

Caywashed

[formal wigeon]

Keeb's 12min beginer guide from 4 years ago is still pretty decent

[last hull]

Plz dalao

[dusty dagger]

Cayshouldbesleeping

[lament prairie]

ooh lala

here we go again

[dusty dagger]

Bro 🥀

[lament prairie]

it's so fun

genuinely

[last hull]

Holy it’s been 4 years already?

[formal wigeon]

#💁gameplay-help message

[formal wigeon]

can't you use AE ult like 3 times per rot ?

[lament prairie]

twice

[dusty dagger]

OH HELL NAH

Ok fuck it cayguide incoming

[lament prairie]

can prob do 3 with enough sp packs on stages

[lament prairie]

oh as long as he doesn't touch discord it's fine

[dusty dagger]

Actually no I have exams expect it to be done like earliest december

[lament prairie]

I refuse to let others suffer as I have

[formal wigeon]

well he can't do that

[thick aspen]

did u know that sirin scores here pretty much same as cora

[dusty dagger]

Yeah thank god

[lament prairie]

how and why the fuck

corabad

[thick aspen]

[dusty dagger]

Inb4 a rank cora

[lament prairie]

I wouldn't be surprised

[formal wigeon]

[dusty dagger]

Keeby ded

[lament prairie]

I don't wanna twitch stream but I do find streaming ae dps funny hmm

[formal wigeon]

Boss has bonus res if you don't stack ignite right ?

[last hull]

https://tenor.com/view/growing-old-getting-old-grow-old-old-man-becoming-old-gif-17885988

[lament prairie]

can't cora stack it tho

or am I stupid

[dusty dagger]

No

[quasi pier]

cora has no stack

[lament prairie]

weh

[dusty dagger]

weh

[thick aspen]

well cora is slight better but if you have any sparkle ranks for your sirin team, or you lack chenxue ranks for your cora team its evens out really quickly

[lament prairie]

I must have been tweaking on heimdall yesterday

if you have any sparkle ranks for your sirin team

[dusty dagger]

Lyohigh

[thick aspen]

yea but i think cora with ss teri aop already loses to siring with just s0+1 sparkle

[dusty dagger]

Wat

[lament prairie]

whatever man I'm using ae dps anyway cuz I'm based as fuck

[dusty dagger]

Wow

[dusty dagger]

Based or just delusional

[thick aspen]

like without chenxue its just better to play sirin

[lament prairie]

delulu

[formal wigeon]

AR moment

[lament prairie]

I'm bored imma be ae gaming in vc

[thick aspen]

nah i mean even with chenxue you are only like 30-40pt ahead of siring

its not like it makes a massive difference

[formal wigeon]

still an AR moment

alternating between the descent of god on earth and a wet noodle

[last hull]

Bruh the one time Im on the train

[last hull]

Damn deadass

The state of Hi3

[digital sky]

Aw darn

[thick aspen]

its just this boss

[cunning gull]

nvm i no longer trust my own judgement

[stray zinc]

Where can I change my name so it's not a bunch of weird numbers

[stray zinc]

Which one of these would y'all say is the best?

[crude cloak]

Press on your name in the top left -> Edit Name on the right

[crude cloak]

!faq whatdkey

[night parcel]

Which DKey should I claim first?

Hello, Captain!

Also check out the Divine Key explanation pin [here](#👶beginner-help message) if anything mentioned (such as "gene limit") is confusing/unknown to you.

In the long run it doesn't matter, but the ideal order is:
1 - Grips of Tai Xuan (gloves, cope glove weapon and ice gene limit).
2 - Cleaver/Judgement of Shamash (guns/greatsword, need both to sync for +10 attack and fire gene limit).
3 - Jizo Mitama (katana, phys gene limit attached to it).
4 - Star of Eden (cannon, has no attached gene limit it just exists).

[crude cloak]

Keep in mind that #👶beginner-help is a more appropriate channel for new players btw

[digital sky]

So uhh vita has animation cancels right?

If so...is there a video

[crude cloak]

Ainnoway you're just asking

[digital sky]

What

[crude cloak]

Anyway, there's only the BA2 cancel really

[digital sky]

I havent been able to do vita dps properly till now

[crude cloak]

Oh dayum, tough

[crude cloak]

1 sec

[digital sky]

Yes it is

I had to cry every vita abyss and the time i get hofi dkey, her weather just passed

[crude cloak]

https://youtu.be/_t4_Ub03jeI?si=Dy5lJvYywxVTSKoU

[digital sky]

Ty

[crude cloak]

You can just cancel that attack in a lot of ways

Jumping, evading, ulting, SOing, transforming

(jumping is faster than evading, but the amount of jumps is limited)

[digital sky]

Ohhh the
Ding
Attack

[crude cloak]

Ye

[digital sky]

So as soon as u hear the DING
jump/evade/ult/SO?

[crude cloak]

Yup

[digital sky]

Okok

[digital sky]

Oh btw
S Songqueop > S teriop
Right?
or 3* kiana idk

[crude cloak]

Should be, ye

[digital sky]

Or is dreamseeker up there somehow

No dreamseeker?

[crude cloak]

Every time I tried DS she was worse

Than Teri

[digital sky]

Got itt

[digital sky]

Thats sad

Lol

[crude cloak]

Teri being worse would actually be sad

(the diff is marginal though)

[digital sky]

Oh yeah. Huh oh well

[digital sky]

U think 588 is good....?

With vita dps...

HoFi Coralie¹

[crude cloak]

On this boss?

Surely you can do higher

[digital sky]

Well im probably butchering vita dps

Do i SO 1st or 2nd phase?

[crude cloak]

Not enough HP in P1 to SO there

Are you not forgetting to apply Ignite with HoFi?

Just got 700

[digital sky]

Can i

Have that....ref

S0 Vita btw...

Erm but idfk what im doing tbh.

[crude cloak]

Same

[digital sky]

Okay

Coralie² or Coralie¹

[crude cloak]

Maybe tomorrow, there's a lot of minmaxing to do

[crude cloak]

You asked for VBm, I did VBm

[digital sky]

Oh my

700...

Okok ill keep trying

[crude cloak]

This part is very important

Not saying to interrupt Vita's rot for that, just make sure you start it with it applied

[digital sky]

im trying

[crude cloak]

(although idk, maybe interrupting the rot is actually worth)

[pale musk]

For FDD dps, when do I use Hofin as support, when do I use Coralie as a support and when do I use Vita as a support? I have Helia but she's S2 so I assume she's a better support than all of them.

[open bone]

FDD Paws is almost always going to be your best option unless you need her somewhere else in MA

Vita is usually the best third but iirc Hofi sometimes takes the lead if you aren’t damage gated because she’s faster

And if you have synergies the number of times she’s useful goes up

[pale musk]

wydm by damage gate? How would I know if I'm damage gated or not?

[open bone]

Again outside of MA afaik not much reason to use mini coralie, her damage in SO is pretty similar at S3 but her ARC damage is much worse if shes not ulting (and her ult wastes time)

[open bone]

As in, if you’re overkilling with Vita you could try Hofi

[dark phoenix]

you know by trying them both, for example you may be able to kill in 1 rot with vita but need extra attack with hofi that cost more time than what you gain from her speed

[digital sky]

Is it just me being stupid or delulu, or is HoFi just slow in ws compared to others...

Like with triggering the marks

[formal wigeon]

she's the fastest iirc

[digital sky]

Does she have animation cancels?

[formal wigeon]

but you need to dodge cancel

[digital sky]

Ah

[formal wigeon]

BA 1-2 dodge BA 1-2

[digital sky]

There it is

[twilit sparrow]

how do you do this thing

[half hatch]

It should explain it in the tutorial already, if it isnt clear somehow
activate SO -> wait for her to finish her breath attack -> pres BA 2 times -> WA -> BA4 -> WA -> ult

[twilit sparrow]

it only does this tho it doesnt do the end thing

[half hatch]

Are you making sure to hold the ult button ?

[twilit sparrow]

yeah

[half hatch]

weird that should only happen if you don't hold it

[twilit sparrow]

oh

thats weird

[half hatch]

as in no finisher is cast if you don't hold the button

[eager smelt]

need to start the press later or it doesnt register dont ask me why

[twilit sparrow]

ohh

[untold scarab]

Well unable to clear Q manifold- agony

Rip 360 Crystal

My characters are strong enough

[open bone]

Can you record the run? And / or explain what team you are using, but ideally record?

We can help but it’s hard to give advice without seeing it

[untold scarab]

Long Planet farer
Herrscher of Void
Jade knight.

I Can Try Vita Dragon Coralie & Blast metal Coralie.

But I don't know

[open bone]

Those people should not be on one team

[untold scarab]

It was a hassle to clear floor one

[open bone]

You should be doing FDD + Lp + Blastmetal

All on one team

[untold scarab]

Oh okay

[open bone]

That will make them like 50% stronger even if you don’t know the rotation, and then you can learn the rotation and improve even more

FDD should I think ideally be the leader but LP should easily clear as well as long as you have all three and are using them right

[untold scarab]

Oh they're actually doing somewhat okay damage this time

[open bone]

Glad I could help! Again if this still isn’t enough you can record the run and then I can give more specific advice but even this should help

Do you know what a rotation is?

[untold scarab]

Yes

[open bone]

In that case with Blastmetal Vita FDD

The rotation looks like
Blastmetal- WA WA Jump Attack WA
Vita - go until bar is full, use it up
FDD, basic attacks until weapon flashes, click that, ult, repeat 3 more times
And then back to Blastmetal to jump attack WA

If you have her at SS you can also use Blastmetal’s ult the first time but you have to start early and then still make sure it hits. When Blastmetal uses her WA (or ult) there’s an orange circle with 1, 2, or 3 in it, you want it to always be three and never run out

So if it’s running low you need to switch out to her to reset the buffs (or use stellar outburst, which automatically sets buffs)

It’s a lot to take in if you haven’t done it before but it’ll improve your damage a lot

[untold scarab]

Okay I'll save it

Thank you

[cunning gull]

my ma lineup:
litost: fdd, vbm, hofi
epernay: fws, jds, lp
lantern: ps, hoh, paws
extra valks: dafl, mps, vbs
hows this lineup? anything to adjust?

[spiral raven]

try to give door either ps or paws ig

dont think u need both on lantern

lantern quite squishy

[cunning gull]

oh who should i use with lamp?

[vernal terrace]

Both Bio on lamp sounds like over kill

[cunning gull]

do you think ps/paws, hoh, any is enough for lamp?

[spiral raven]

thel works for lamp, so u could do hoh dafl lamp

[cunning gull]

oh ill try

[spiral raven]

idk ur dmg tho https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1QxYhzrEjL/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd_source=0c55e9eeea7f01cd7949940b979fafe9

[cunning gull]

lemme try rn

[spiral raven]

and i suggested ps or paws on door cuz either one is needed for s0 top score, but if u have no teri idk how that goes

[cunning gull]

yeah i only have ds lmao

[spiral raven]

should still be better than lp tho

[cunning gull]

https://tinyurl.com/Marestea-HI3-inventory
this is what i have

[spiral raven]

badum jds paws 6s ds

so ig u can keep ps on lamp

[cunning gull]

alr!
fdd team stays the same?

[spiral raven]

u can, but im not sure as well, i would keep lp free

[cunning gull]

[spiral raven]

but idk

try see if u can do the 0s with hoh tho

[cunning gull]

oh wait lamp boss got 2 phases

[spiral raven]

yes

time stop in between

[cunning gull]

hmm how to rotate this

[spiral raven]

well, the hoh team just murdered lamp with eva wa

but u can add a bit of auto in ig

p2 thel can just kill it within ult

[vernal terrace]

Lamp still has two phases?

[cunning gull]

mhm my hoh doesnt kill quickly so yeah

and ill lreave thel ult for sec phase

31786, yeah i need to work on that

[spiral raven]

i see, then probs need to give lamp ps then

[cunning gull]

hmm need a third slot tho hmm

[spiral raven]

o i havent see any 0s refs on lamp with ps, tho thats becuz shes used in door this week for most ppl, i think u might need to give other bosses a try

and then just calc best score from that

most likely ur gonna stick with hoh on lamp

[small salmon]

my stats not as high as the other ref video above and i have no extra ranks but i managed 31946. maybe this can help you.
https://youtu.be/pU-CXxeasqs

[cunning gull]

oo ty!!

i dont have high stats either so thats good for me!
lemme watch first

since i freed my ps and paws, whom should go to any team?
paws to fdd and ps to fws?

[spiral raven]

yea

see if u can replicate 6s tho im not sure if u can for door

then for other guy it seems like 11s clear with cora helia vita

[cunning gull]

alr alr!

[spiral raven]

though seems like hofi can replace helia

[cunning gull]

ohh
ill look at diff refs then

[spiral raven]

11+6 seems to be cap base off quick search tho

[small salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-emperors-new-groove-its-all-coming-together-gif-12813012

[small salmon]

For abyss boss, the buff for 2nd phase seems really inconsistent, for me at least. managed a run with 821 where the boss died BEFORE whole SO finisher but also a ~814 run where it didn't die after SO finisher. same rotation, pretty much same timings but buff activated too late. Does ba 1-2 or normal wa stack a bit ignite, so i can fit it in before ults?

[twilit sparrow]

it still won’t work

[craggy plume]

My guess is that you are running out of SO in between the ult animation and the finisher as the slowdown stops after the ult finishes, I have had that happen a few times.

[twilit sparrow]

can i make any good teams with these characters

[open bone]

Yes

Sparkle or Simp leader, and then two of Sparkle, simp, Blastmetal for the other two slots

You can also cope with mini helia third but if she’s wepless she’s a big downgrade

You can also try FDD + Blastmetal + any of the other AR Valkyries like sparkle and it’ll be at least usable

[twilit sparrow]

is simp the part 2 theresa

[open bone]

Shicksal’s imperative yeah

[twilit sparrow]

kk

[open bone]

The reason that team works is it’s a world star dps + 2 domain resonance supports

That’s how part 2 teambuilding mostly works, you find two battlesuits that have a tag that matches the ring of your DPS

The FDD team is a little cope because you only have 1 RoO support but it can probably work fine in A3 for FDD’s bosses

[twilit sparrow]

wait so who do i use as the dps in the first team

[open bone]

Both Sparkle and Simp are possible DPS, it depends on the boss and weather

Like in a lightning weather you would want simp

[twilit sparrow]

kk

[open bone]

And in a qua boss you would want sparkle

[full trench]

which ones have weapon

[open bone]

Oh yeah that’s important too

If any of them are missing weapon they’re much worse

The same teams will work but they’ll have much worse performance than if they had weapon

And might not beat out brute forcing

[twilit sparrow]

none of part 2 ones except coralie and helia😞

[full trench]

can you afford fdd weapon

[twilit sparrow]

probably there’s 19 pulls until i get

[open bone]

Yeah then try to get that

[twilit sparrow]

which astralop do i use

[open bone]

If you get FDD’s weapon you can brute force with her but you might bounce between A2 and A3 instead of maintaining A3

[twilit sparrow]

whats a2 and a3

[open bone]

In the mean time you can try her DPS with mini coralie weapon still but it’s like 40% weaker or something

[full trench]

post-breakthrough abyss ranks

[open bone]

Agony 2 and Agony 3. They’re endgame abyss levels, the higher the level the more crystals you can get a week

[twilit sparrow]

ohh

what stigmata set do i put on normal coralie

[vernal terrace]

[full trench]

theres pretty close to no chance you can craft tsiol so ogier t fhm mb i guess

[twilit sparrow]

i fear this is gibberish to me

idk many hi3 terms😞

[full trench]

tsiol is her sig set tmb are the stigmata slots and fhm is a stigmata set from starter manual

[vernal terrace]

Sera has no elemental buffs at S, so DS is better than Sera here

[dusky mantle]

Time to get slapped with........ The GLOSSARY!!!

[twilit sparrow]

kk

[twilit sparrow]

is this tsiol

[full trench]

yes

how do you have 57 prisms and u didnt breakthrough or pull weapons

[open bone]

Events probably

[full trench]

do your other characters have their stigmata

[open bone]

Anyway yeah if you have a ton of prisms you can craft tsiolkovsky

And it’ll make her a much better support

[twilit sparrow]

yes

well all the part 2 ones

[twilit sparrow]

idk how to farm crystals

[vernal terrace]

Nvm she does have Elemental buffs
Though DS is still better for DMG

[full trench]

yeah ig craft it i expected you to have like 6 prisms

[open bone]

You get your weekly Crystal income from daily missions, biweekly abyss, and weekly elysian realm

If you do those three you will get a lot of crystals every patch and if you don’t you will get very few

[twilit sparrow]

it turns out i have the set already and didn’t see it in the menu

[open bone]

Ah then yeah just equip them

[full trench]

story stages that cost stamina are the fastest, there are also the resetting sources qtesseract mentioned

[twilit sparrow]

ohh kk i don’t touch elysian realm and idk how to properly do daily missions

[open bone]

Elysian realm is like 500 crystals a week, so you are missing out on nearly 20 pulls a patch if you ignore it

[full trench]

dailies are not that much but they're easy to do

[weak drum]

wanna see a speedrun of it? (dailies)

[twilit sparrow]

sure

[open bone]

Yeah for dailies you can get all the rewards by doing the material stages (can use vacation tickets), collecting coins in dorm, spending 100 stamina (counts the material stages and the afk expeditions), and then like 1-3 of 3x story expeditions, dorm expeditions, and armada contributions

Shouldn’t take more than like 10 minutes a day

Less if you’re efficient

[twilit sparrow]

i always forget about dorm

[full trench]

it should take like 1-2 minutes a day

its just menuing

[weak drum]

thats way too long for dailies smh

[weak drum]

and this is me manually tapping every completed missions so you cant say that it was bc of the other stuffs i had or smt

[full trench]

u bricked ur dailies by not lego farming

[weak drum]

oh noes

tbf this is a pure “complete and leave” run

[open bone]

Don’t worry ches will just spend 5$ to buy legos

[twilit sparrow]

lego farming?

[weak drum]

#true

[open bone]

There’s some building materials you can get to upgrade your dorm by doing dorm interactions after each daily. It’s free stuff which is nice but way less important than crystals

[full trench]

honkai blocks, if you claim 1 mission then go to dorm you can click on 2 characters and it'll raise their affection and it gives you honkai blocks with chance for home materials

they are very marginal though

[twilit sparrow]

what do honkai blocks do

[full trench]

it gives collection progress and increases your onigiri regen rate but it takes forever

[weak drum]

i couldn’t be bothered

[full trench]

you make furniture with them

[open bone]

They let you upgrade your dorm comfort and then eventually slightly more onigiri regen which even more eventually is slightly more asterite a day

[weak drum]

smh just buy them (please dont)

[open bone]

It’s like the least important farming in hi3

So I wouldn’t do it unless you were already doing all the more efficient farming too

[weak drum]

just do what i did and sleep

[twilit sparrow]

the way i been playing since 2023 and still know like nothing about this game omg

[weak drum]

its like 20-30 seconds if your phone/pc/laptop doesnt take 50 years to load like mine

[twilit sparrow]

yeah my ipad takes like 15 seconds to load in

[full trench]

why is damage rng on this boss i cant figure it out

specifically in p2

[crude cloak]

It's either HoI dodging attacks or the buff proccing/reproccing difference

[full trench]

its like 2 minibars difference tho idt dodging attacks accounts for that

what buff proc

whatever i dont even care about figuring it out im only 2 points off theoretical cap anyway

[edgy hamlet]

hofi or bita in RL? I swear no matter what I do they both score the same +/- 1.

Double ring or single ring pretty much the same score

[crude cloak]

From the hail on the ground in P2

[full trench]

how do u proc it

[crude cloak]

By Igniting it

The issue is that it can happen at different times if your execution isn't perfect

[full trench]

i see

ok thanks back to mald

[vernal terrace]

Did not know that
Maybe that'll help me get 830+

[red plank]

Hi guys can anyone tell me how to da a rot with 4/4 FDD PAWS FWS?

PAWS is SS cause luck

for this abyss boss specifically ofc

[full trench]

got the 786 thanks

[crude cloak]

Too slack, waiting for 810+

[full trench]

i dont have the damage

i tried to follow mimis run but no dice

[red plank]

teammate can u tell me how to do rot with cora leader? #💁gameplay-help message

I kinda have no clue abt this ring

cause basically no RoO valks

[full trench]

replace fws with vbm

[crude cloak]

FWS can't support RoO

[red plank]

wha shes usefull now

[full trench]

shes a god valk bro

[crude cloak]

And VBm is a cope option, if you have better RoO valks use them

[crude cloak]

Which you don't as I see from here

[full trench]

yeah ideally bita, hofi/vbm depends on the specific run but generally hofi better

[red plank]

ok I'm dumd I tot fws supported her cause this

[red plank]

[full trench]

if u dont have ss chenchen vbm is probably never going to be worth it

[crude cloak]

FDD DPS is just this:
Apply buffs with supps -> stay on FDD until you SO/need to refresh the buffs

[crude cloak]

In SO you just stay on FDD

[crude cloak]

Just run FDD DPS lah

[red plank]

FDD is the lead

[red plank]

oh

well lets see then

should I replace fws? I dont have chenxue

[full trench]

during ring there's some stuff you can do but out of ring theres nothing to cook

[full trench]

u should regardless

[crude cloak]

Oh wow, not using Quick Team Edit

[red plank]

[red plank]

then what part does vbm have in this?

the rot I mean

I barely use her idk wth she does

[crude cloak]

You apply buffs with her

3 stacks + ground taps

Ult is generally not worth

[red plank]

so just spam ATK until special wp?

[crude cloak]

In this specific case you can do WA x2 -> jump -> BA (make sure it hits the enemy) -> WA

[crude cloak]

In the opener I mean

[full trench]

coralie is one of the more complicated supports to play but for max buffs you need to cast 2 wa and hit the boss with either ground slam or ult

[red plank]

opener with vbm?

[crude cloak]

Yes

[red plank]

why is there a need to jump tho

ult eva?

[full trench]

no its just so you do mid air ba

[red plank]

oh

chat sry but my dumbass cant comprehend this

my honkai brain is in sleep mode and is not waking up

I have no clue what to do

can you send me a ref or recording

[formal wigeon]

Because her downward attack is the one that procs her debuff, and she does it in the air

[red plank]

I still cant understand it without seeing it visually sry

ugh shouldnt have slacked all month now I feel really stupid

[full trench]

just do this in abyss

[red plank]

[rigid cedar]

not mid-air = no hammer spin into stomp

instead you waste both stacks you have at the beginning on the ground and even if you hit the enemy later that takes way longer

[late hamlet]

[dusky mantle]

I see

[digital sky]

@crude cloak so uhhh i dont think im gonna +0....725 is 9th place iirc...as of last time i checked

[crude cloak]

Oh dayum
Tough

What skipping FDD does to a person

[thick aspen]

Skip anything = dead

[vernal terrace]

I don't even see any other 800+ in my bracket besides myself

[quasi pier]

yeah that's normal in rl

[vernal terrace]

I shouldn't be surprised if I promote to Nirv then?

[quasi pier]

yeah you're going to nirv

your fate is sealed

[vernal terrace]

I'm -200 on Sa even with FWS

[quasi pier]

it's fine, just get myriad and dip

[vernal terrace]

Alright

[thick aspen]

Sa hidden JDS boss

[vernal terrace]

[thick aspen]

Even tho made for badum

[fervent musk]

No JD here

[stray zinc]

What does Coralie do. The A rank version you get for free

[storm ocean]

Is there a nirvana ref for S rank teriri with SS FDD and SS Paws

I still don't have chenxue

[dusty dagger]

Point and laugh at the whel

[half hatch]

As in what her role in a team would be ? She's mainly a support which provides total DMG taken/dealt buffs. She's currently only really used to support a RoO DPS though if you're a beginner and lack proper supports she's really good due to her being a RoO unit meaning she can at least partially support every ring type

She can also be used as a DPS in early game if you have nothing else

[stray zinc]

Okay I am XD should've asked in beginner help lol. I got her S rank version to so was wondering if she was a decent support for her

[storm ocean]

Ok and?

[dusty dagger]

[storm ocean]

[dusty dagger]

Go look in bili2 whel lily

[storm ocean]

I did. I didn't find anything useful with the search generator this morning

Gave me FoV refs even though I put tags for fdd..

[half hatch]

Yeah she is, if you're looking for a budget S rank coralie team there's one pinned on beginner help. Also make sure to get her weapon

[storm ocean]

Never mind found some vids but they're SS+ teir/chen

[nimble patio]

Is chenxue good for HoFi?

[paper osprey]

i has a question hofi has 2 ults from what i remeber how do i make the second one

[digital sky]

You need the waxing dkey on HoFi, and it has to be in SO

Or unless ur refering to the trio ult

Which u just need HoFi HoTr and HoO on the same team, dkey or not

She got the trio ult, the finger gun ult, and the moon kicking ult

[paper osprey]

waxing dkey ? sorry been a while since i last played

[digital sky]

HoFi got a new divine key (dkey) in 7.8, which gave her the astral ring system to synergize with pt2 valks (valks released 7.3 and beyond as of rn)

[paper osprey]

ah okay

[digital sky]

Her divine key allowed HoO to be a proper dps and trio got a resurgence in the meta (not as much currently as it has been a few patches)

[digital sky]

She is RoO which means she can be "used" with anyone, but that doesnt mean its good compared to proper supports for that ring

She can support RoO and WS, RoO being Vita dps and FDD dps

[crude cloak]

You ain't finding the exact ref for your setup (for obvious reasons)
I suggest you don't include the supps though, that can sometimes brick the search

ig you could try following an S0-S2 ref with SSS CX or smth, but ofc CX has ARI regen, which completely changes P2

[vernal terrace]

His bed was too comfy still

[vernal terrace]

Woke up and did one side stage then went back to sleep

[digital sky]

Curious, whats the best S aop, aside.. from chex
Or is 4* kiana best

[open bone]

Teri

She functions fine at S rank tho SS is still better

And also is the second newest which is helpful

It’s mostly team specific (and boss/run specific) what aop is best in general tho

[vernal terrace]

Teri is just fine with the ring she supports at S
SS is more of a boost towards Vita DPS

[digital sky]

Oh shit i forgot to literally mention the most important part

For Trio

Not in general

Sorry!

[digital sky]

Meant for Trio- Sorry

[open bone]

Oh lmao

[jagged silo]

guys i have a question

[vernal terrace]

Kiaelf

[jagged silo]

so i just log into the game right, got the returnee banner and got 2 free pulls. I got mad pleasure. is she good or no?

[open bone]

Kiaelf usually but iirc DS is still situationally better than kiaelf for trio

[jagged silo]

this is early like day 2 so i can really get the weapon i think

[open bone]

And ofc that’s only for 4* kiaelf

[vernal terrace]

More initial ARI and better ARC DMG
Kiaelf is more SO DMG

[open bone]

Yep

[jagged silo]

is Thelema good? i got her from the returnee

[digital sky]

What about songqueop?

[vernal terrace]

Very niche nowadays
Her bosses don't appear often (though she is the best to clear 0s? 1s? SS bosses in MA)
And is more often put with HoHe as her support

[digital sky]

Needs her weapon, shes also old so wont find much usage nowadays

[digital sky]

S songqueop*

[vernal terrace]

Not even good in the ring she's supposed to support at S

[jagged silo]

cool because i can lowkey get her weapon

[digital sky]

Shes still a nice generalist :(

[quasi pier]

why would you pull for a generalist when ds is right there for free

[vernal terrace]

SS DS better than S Fraud Songkek op?

[quasi pier]

4 star kia elf is better at s songque's job anyway

[vernal terrace]

[digital sky]

I dont even own 4* kiana

yet

[digital sky]

Ask me that in 7.3

[jagged silo]

WAIT I CAN RUN THIS TEAM! yay! new support for my 4/4 HoHe

[digital sky]

With no pt2 valks aside from 4/4 coralie

[digital sky]

HoH needs her divine key in order for that team to properly work

[quasi pier]

you have hohe dkey?

[jagged silo]

this?

[quasi pier]

i remember a bunch of people telling you not to pull for songque aop

[vernal terrace]

Yes

HoHe also needs Sena I believe

[jagged silo]

no i dont. i wish i did

i only got her normal weapon

[quasi pier]

thelema's not compatible with hohe without her dkey

[jagged silo]

:[ okay

it sucks because i have all pt 1 characters

[digital sky]

SS songqueop

I already had S songqueop

[quasi pier]

no wonder, ss adds nothing but ari

and songque aop is already pretty mid

[digital sky]

I do have S Sera, S teriop, and S songqueop now

So...

._."

[jagged silo]

i can get her skin so yay!

[quasi pier]

does sera even help anyone you have?

[vernal terrace]

Mostly WoD and a bit of WS

[quasi pier]

the only WoD character i think breath has is hohe but he has no thelema

[vernal terrace]

[dusky mantle]

I see

[storm ocean]

Yea I tried it doesn't work
Even her SS refunds some ari after SO
Seems like its not possible without SS+ aop

[rare iris]

||https://youtu.be/k6I-7kUyb2M :schizo:||

[small salmon]

banger thumbnail

how many tries did you need to get such good ar farming during the transition phase?

[eager smelt]

the issue isnt the dodging

[digital sky]

HoH ||soon HoRb||

[boreal eagle]

the issue is the stacks refresh right ?

[dusky mantle]

Wtf

Slightly bald

Fdd paws LP or hofi?

[rough haven]

https://youtu.be/i9XEXScL97w

I play it the second time and welp. And yes, I sometimes post records on yt when I ran out of discord nitro to send raw video.

So, how was the lineup?

[full trench]

1: turn hofi qte off and start with her wa before the boss spawns
2: paws doesnt need wa to ult when the boss spawns
3: dont do hofi stellar drain basically ever and definitely not in this spot

in p2 try a full breath skip i think you still kill

@rough haven

[digital sky]

HoFi doesnt want qte in RoO?

Or .. uh vita/coralie² dps

[full trench]

no

[digital sky]

But they do in ws?

[full trench]

no

[digital sky]

Oh just trio?

[full trench]

no

[digital sky]

Okay so her qte is a waste of space?

[full trench]

jk yeah probably

[digital sky]

I

[vernal terrace]

[dusky mantle]

Casual run. Good enough to slacc

Lets just hope i remember to do side stage

[full trench]

i think u mean good enough start to malding

[dusky mantle]

Naw

[full trench]

yaw

[dusky mantle]

Not lpoking forward to stardust

[full trench]

i dont have teri and im gonna be in nirv so same

[vernal terrace]

Same

[sacred cape]

how does this boss work again

Sometimes the stack refresh half way

Sometimes don’t

[lean isle]

how do you guys get pass this?

[quasi pier]

build sakura's horse

[rough haven]

How do you skip dragon breath? and what paws do if weapon skill not needed.

[full trench]

dont hold the button and paws just casts ult

[rigid cedar]

i can bruteforce this with anything, but what would be the best bruteforce-

probably something with thelema?

asking rly more for what to recommend rather than for myself

[vernal terrace]

PS

[rigid cedar]

well duh

but assuming i do not have her

do i even bother with thelema or just go unga bunga best dps team

[vernal terrace]

Thelema

[formal wigeon]

If the shields are phys shields, thel does not matter

[rigid cedar]

i checked, they aren't physical

[formal wigeon]

If they can be broken with ele dmg, probably thel

[rigid cedar]

and without thel, i guess best dps team

[formal wigeon]

yeah just whatever hits harder if you don't have any anti-shield stuff

[rigid cedar]

alr

[spiral raven]

badum dps yes

[rigid cedar]

wouldn't it be paws?

[spiral raven]

there's mech too if ur thinking of counter

[rigid cedar]

especially because i remember there being more psy enemies on this stage

[vernal terrace]

It's a mix of mech, bio, and Psy

[rigid cedar]

fair enough i guess, consistently works

but by that logic, i could also go a quantum dps

or trio

[vernal terrace]

JDS

[spiral raven]

no cuz spork bad and trio feels awful when u missing a bit

[rare iris]

everyone bad except my beloved wife Mobius

[finite barn]

is this a sleep boss if you dont have fdd

[crude cloak]

Sirin is solid

[finite barn]

hm ok i will try

doesnt look super promising but i will try

[thick aspen]

sirin is solid but maybe not that solid

[finite barn]

yeaaaaah

[crude cloak]

Should be ez T9 at least, no?

At least with current scores

[open bone]

Depends on sirin ranks and gears doesn’t it? But yeah if you have sirin and sparkle you can match FDD

[finite barn]

i mean i dont have sparkle either

[open bone]

Ah that’s tougher

[finite barn]

i dont think the old sirin team can do THAT

[open bone]

Probably still retainable

[finite barn]

idk i'll try it but. im not hopeful

[open bone]

If she’s ranked enough

What’s your Sirin ranks?