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I can't cut them 
anyone have trio reference for this boss, litost?
theres only 1 way to play trio
Well, there still are ways to optimize this boss
But this boss requires actual critical thinking
??
And I donât know how to
Like doing smth during the transition and not just killing clones
In the transition you can
But my score is 770, and this one trio is 801 and they have SS hofin, ss1 hotruth, ss1 HoO, and s rank songque aop
And how do your ranks compare?
That other trio is #2 and my trio is sss hofin, s0 hotruth, ss hoo, and s rank chenxue
No sp issues
Okay, not too bad then
P1 can be done without SO and second phase is SO to clear
By clear I mean wipe the boss HP
Do you overkill in any of the phases?
P2
Damn, I forgot what gear HoO can run to cut out her rot
Well, anyway, all the juice is in the transition
Gotta do the timewasters during it (HoTr and maybe HoO)
At worst you can do HoTr's rot during the last cycle
At best you might be able to do HoTr -> HoFi -> HoO -> <transition ends> -> HoFi SO
idk by how much you overkill
Iâll try that then 
Just make sure to get all the Litost stacks
@formal wigeon surely you remember
turg
What's the middle stig
Second place trio uses Mei set, how did they reach 801 with Mei set? 
Better transition management
Pulse Katana Type-17?
when you say "P1 can be done without SO", is it a single rot ?
ye, or the bleed one
iirc one of them is affected by TF and the other isn't
can change some timings
hofi is so bad theres no ignite
Im captain lvl 46 at chap 12 do yall think i can get enough pulls for the next char next patch
Yes
Comfortably
could also be that they got bugged transition by accident
gotta have to try yourself what your max score is
or maybe not by accident 

It's RL, it's 100% by accident
I've malded some RL stuff in the past 
with things that are way less consistent than that
Relly
I need 42k thingies i forgot what they were called
And you don't have to skip the current char (with weap)
Crystals
I already have her and her weapon
I end p1 at 902 points at best so far, usually it was 898-900 
Yes
??
Too slow?
New best score is 793
Okay, that's progress, nice
Went up 23 points 
Gotta keep going tho, can't be lagging behind with SSS HoFi
that sounds pretty slow for a single trio rot
Still I think 9 points off for second place
938
Oh wow
from HFI first qte to rot end should be 50 points at most
I hope you don't just stand there during the clones in the beginning
i hope you evade his attacks at all 
I don't think you can Ignite them, but you can use that time to do HoTr's rot at least
Maybe with CA? 
I probably can't test that cuz no HoTr
It could also be that you only wanna evade like 2/3 of them
Maybe even only 1
Basically what I do is hofin stacks for that CA thing, then hotruth to hofin to HoO to hofin that clears p1, rn I cleared p1 at 905 points so 3 point improvement
should be 940 p1 with a little more dmg
idk whether refreshing the clone timer makes the overall duration longer (it could linger regardless of the amount dodged)
Anyway, just wait for Awa's ref
Surely he's recording 
theres nothing to say about it
just do the normal rot
Well, clearly there are some issues
So ignore the beginning phase?
u cant ignite what are u gonna do
does 1 HFI proc not even do half ?
Just hotruth wa ult then just wait for him to be hit for hotruth CA then standard trio rotation?
theres 3 clones and hofi can do about 1/3 of 1
ye if not half don't bother
dodge first to spawn a clone
swap to hotr and do rot
if half you could do 1 at least, but ain't nothing you can do in this case
Ignoring the beginning phase doesnt let me clear p1 in one rot 
ignoring it doesn't mean hitting the air either
I'm guessing you should still hit the first HFI rot on the boss itself
yeah the boss will spawn by hofi wa
and HTR transform hits the clones for the stig buff right ?
Awa question are you doing 1 SO or 2 SO?
2
Oh I was trying to do only 1 SO and clear p1 without SO
Chenxue should let me be able to get 2 SO right?
chenxue doesnt give any regen until ss
but yes u can
just farm transition properly
So in this case my SS teriteri aop is the play then over chenxue?
if u had ss teri why didnt u start with her
Because chenxue for dmg
u should be able to 830
as long as you kill you don't need more dmg
but teri is more dmg
nah Teri buffs in trio are really ass
but should be enough dmg either way with SSS HFI
Update, 10 off, I could do better though since I overkill and didn't do second S0 ult immediately since I though I didn't have enough sp for it
eh
i think ss teri is still a bit higher
Ty 
how no sp
theres so much room in transition
Like I read the number and it wasn't 125 but when I did second S0 it went up past 125
that's Wyv's table
So I didn't expect it to just to the requirement
I know now though so I'll do another run

drya i thought u had fdd
I do but I prefer trio because of nostalgia

i see
Update, i think if I skip wa from hoo on second rot on second phase I can reach 830
I canât because my account is trash
And cause how trash it is, I donât even think I can grind to fix it
830 reached, tysm for helping me 
It's a returnee acc I assume?
Does Planar Armament have her sig weap?
Fortunately, no cause I ran out of time
I keep getting this errand that I can't do.. What valks do you need!?
It's about having appropriate AOs/ELFs and/or ranks on S-rank valks
SS and SSS give +2 to the valks's stat
Yeah, youâre kind of right I return like a few months ago
I'd consider making a new acc then
What mode even is that?
That's just Dorm Errands
Well sh*t. I rarely have more than s ranks valks except for the free ones. Guess I'll just have to keep playing.. Thanks
Oh, it just looks different cause I just do auto on that
I am not gonna give up on that account
Your current acc income is crippled, and on a new one you'll easily be able to afford both this and the next patch
Yeah, up to you ofc
Can press refresh to get a different one
Had one like that few times, pressed refresh and got a different one where I could dispatch
Yeah, it was always like that when I was a even when the account was first new, it was like in 2023 so and Iâve been free to play and I quit for a bit and then came back
I probably just donât know to play the game, right
Todayâs strive to make my account the very best or should I not
That depends on why you're playing the game
If your only goal is story, then not at all
Happy cause I like the story and I also kind of wanna try to at least be good at something in this game
do you just like. perish if you dont have fdd for this abyss
RL? Nirv?
In Nirv yes
rl
Yeah, HoFi can deal with the transition
... i did not know hofi had enough ignite for that
The transition mfs specifically don't have a high Trauma gauge
Sirin should be very good here as well
She can deal with P1 clones
(maybe unless whale trio/Sirin)
i will try all of these then
i cant afford to -100 again im going to demote to agony đ
I'm either +100 or +0 
i got -100'd on benares and i missed a cycle the previous patch
havent been able to +100 since the last time i bounced nirv which was ages ago

Benares had multiple options as well though
The same ones
Or are you that slack xdd
trio should be 800+
unless all S0 no aop I guess
you can scroll up a bit for trio stuff
definitely not getting 800+ i think...
ive got s0 hofi s2 hotr ss hoo s teri
yeah cant even finish the transition before almost 800 if i dont SO
oh yeah i should also say i dont have sparkle lol so wouldnt be able to do the first stuff with sirin anyways 
Yeah, ofc she's worse then xdd
ugh yeah i can't clear the first phase in one SO
and idk where to go after the end of it...
not clearing it in one ring just means u get to use bug
WTH!? didn't know you could refresh. Thank you
i tried doing a hotr ult-less rot but its super slow
actually idk if trio can do bug easily
bug?
There is a bug that can significantly speed up the transition iirc
Are you still able to get full stacks that way though?
like. kill the boss during an attack animation and then avoid the attack?
I assume not
there was a bili run where they got full stacks but i dont have the link
yes
i probably dont have the hands for this anyways XD
That shit needs to be fixed before the next cycle then wtf
yeah bad bug unlike good bug fishskip <3
Both bad 
these are like my only astral ring units..who should i try to get and what can i do rn ?
also is there a way to send all of my units
get next patch, rn you can swap between ps and rs leader depending on content
Only making a bunch of screenshots (using the 4 square button in the bottom right does help a bit though)
Not necessary in this case
ive been using HoR dudu and HoS with her brick ,, i know theyre older units but its really all i have lolol
can i use sushang and coralie in any team together?
Yes (either RS or PS leader)
.. sorry but what does that mean 
RS is Reign Solaris
PS is Peregrine Sword
In the future you can check the glossary in #đśbeginner-help pins
Or was the question not about the acronyms
it was
i didnt think i was that much of a beginner but apparently theres a LOT i dont have any idea about anymore lolol

wtf the boss just did like 4 attacks after i killed p1
ok that was a relatively decent run but 732 is not enough q.q
am i supposed to be using trio's signature sets? i assume so since i'm short damage on both phases
S Teri is so bad don't use that, it's just worse than DS
ugh i cant figure out why sometimes i have enough to SO immediately on p2 and sometimes i dont
is it? is DS regen enough?
Dodges/attacks in transition I assume
i shall try dreamseeker then
No kiaelf ?
S kiaelf
2* ?
er, yeah
wait no
why cant i remember elf things
no bonuses just the base elf
sorry im frazzled by this boss
So 2* yeah
yeah is that what base is i cant remember
Just use DS then ye
Ye gacha elfs are 2/3/4*
i should know this i just cant remember things rn
that run was worse but its cause idk what im doing wrong in the transition rn...
Fuck lmao managed to get a retain run just this last second 30 seconds after abyss closed
Ah well, serves me right for not malding sooner ig
ugh next cycle could have been good for recouping points too...... instead im gonna be stuck in agony >:(
bug run woulda easy retained
idk if it would have ngl
could not for the life of me figure out that transition phase
Next abyss is img right? IG I probably wasnât retaining RL then anyway but might be able to +100 A3 so it might be a wash :cope:
i had like... 3 runs where i actually got enough energy to immediately SO
if u do bug its +20 min 
yeah its img next
PAWS brute force time 
if bug could let me consistently farm astral ring...
not that i would have hands to trigger bug anyways since i kept missing the stupid shadows
positioning in this game is my worst enemy
well that was like 2 hours wasted
gotta do this shit on MA too
dkajlfks
do you also just use trio on MA litost or is there something else to use there
Is it still worth it to grind for Fenghuang's equipment?? Fu hua has been my favorite ever since hawk of the fog and I think fenghuang is still good.. hopefully
uhhhh unfortunately she's pretty much useless meta wise but dont let that stop you from making unwise decisions for waifu reasons
she reminds me of my big sis and i love her for that đđ thank you for supporting the grind brother.
altho im not sure what you mean by grind her equipment?
How do I solve this
Thank u
remember to rotate the cannon and the 2 mirrors btw
Got it

can i bother you by letting me know the na nirv disturbance for husk?
i could only find another na nirv player.. where are yall bru
Its 544 for husk
WAIT HUSK

I'm demoting 

Good thing I picked up the trophies
ty btww

Np lmao
fr
Good luck lol
lmao, ill use ur luck on the next cycles tho bc i legit got nothing for husk 
hope u do well

how do i get to this place?
probably near the end of the story, event usually has chest like that, can see it very early but only doable at the end
ok :/
bruh this took me a long time bcs i forget u can turn the canon
same 
spent like 5 mins rolling mirrors, this event is god awful on those puzzle stuff in the first place
glad to see I wasn't alone lol
seem normal to me 
Is it easy to get asterites??
quite easy to get 20k+ minimum per week. More the older your account is cause you can sacrifice mats for it
!faq aster
Hello, Captain! 
[Click here](#đśbeginner-help message) to view the Asterite Priority list!
-# Aimed at beginner accounts.
Also see Professor Sairaan's Asterite Sources breakdown [here](#đśbeginner-help message).
list of sources
I forgot asterite existed.... I should check the pin for myself 
hm
I have 1733 torus and 1223 SC metals, is it still worth dumping my asterites to claim all of it?
Well, the next patch will use up 800 Toruses and 1040 Metals if we get a dkey
And 8.7 is expected to be CNY
So it could be quite expensive mats-wise
Ok so I should start stocking up then. I was sitting on like 450k asterites so may as well put them to use 
Oh also what is SS Kira for? I started buying her frags too
Pointless in your case 
Though you could be getting all A-ranks to SSS to reduce the OW task pool
(no clue whether that actually affects the crystal chances)
I didn't know the valk ranks had anything to do with the OW task grade
OW tasks don't give you frags for SSS valks essentially
idk whether that applies to maxed Augments though
For example, I'm not getting any SP frags cuz I alr maxed all of them
Oh interesting... Surely that increases the crystal task chances
Tbh I haven't had one in like 2 months
APHO1 but I switched to Sakura Samara recently
Yeah, Samsara is garbage in that regard
LOL
The leveling rewards offset that ofc
But if it's alr maxed pls stop
is it that apho 2 got better rewards? i either hear about it or about schicksal one
Yeah, they're about equal
Then APHO1 is very slightly worse
Then a massive cliff drop at Samsara
My higokumaru is level 29 rn
But Samsara has NCCs and BS frags ig 
i got triple xtal task from apho2 recently

WTF
Also I keep failing this task in samsara
You should alr know why lah
Surely you fought Kallen outside of Samsara at least once
Yeah but my team sucks
i did more sakura tasks lvls and my hoh, hofi and 2/4 si did it easily idk lol
stellar key btw
Kallen is immune to everything except Phys
Hence the issues
I tried using a DPS TA to pretty much solo it but I am probably using trash gear
Yea I've been stuck on that task for ages and gave up a while ago
!faq fhm
I got this, Captain! 
Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!
[Click here](#đśbeginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!
Maybe try a Phys team from here
at least im sure i used 2/4 si on kallen
Or spam Kira HP loss
does the boss have a time limit?
Yes and no
found out what the ss kira was for
There is a timer after which the boss enters Frenzy and you start taking DoT
oh
And iirc the Frenzy carries over to next phases
Yea I died of cancer (dot)
nvm i mistook i didn't do the kallen boss in sakura samsara 
Yup, checks out
i must have mistaken it with a diff situation with a diff boss or schicksal ow
Does the second team have craft able gear?
Everything there is free or craftable
Also maybe consider using gear from one of your P2 Phys valks
idk how it compares
I see. I was just thinking of stealing PS weapon for a bit 
Alright now I have a plan. Thanks for the help
mhm can confirm u can't use p2 valks in schicksal ow
but u can use stellar key valks
actually is there a max limit to how many familiar tasks should u do until you should move on from sakura samsara bc u need more exp and because the ow task rewards are ass? 
After I'm done that, then I start apho2
gl!!!
this boss is so tanky đ
Surely you have better supp options
I don't think Vita FDD is any good for RS
I tried the trio and I get lower score
I also tried RS team(song and sparkle)and it was the same
The trio as in HoFi/HoO/HoTr ?
Is the on banner Colarie worth pulling for? I don't have S Helia, and that's her teammate, right? Is someone else coming up that would be better?
First of all, do you have about 40k crystals to get both the valkyrie and weapon?
If not, save
I have her at guarantee and wep in 20 pulls, 2.5k xtals.
Is she good , or will have good synergy with later units?
She has breach for support and ignite for dps
It took more than 2 years to replace the last ignite mech dps and seem very likely an important support for goblet of infinitude astral ring
shed be the only unit id have with that astral ring i think so shed have no teammates?
can she fit in with cny Kiana and sushang? I have very limited p2 characters
not garentee but theres still a month to get it right
yes, i meant ur cny kiana and sushang, i just wanted to know if u r pulling weaps
u pull when ur preprared ig
u rly want to make sure u guarantee weap and valk but yea
at least sushang as a support can still help you get pass some mechanics
ill keep that in mind. I still fall into the trap of pulling when i have enough sometimes
well thanks, ill keep saving and pull at the end of the month if i can
you need to also save for spending event next patch
What what are recommended Buffs for Dragon Coralie in Elysian Realm
12000 point atm
there's a pinned er guide
Corruption difficulty might be too soon for me
Only made it to the 12th floor first try
Are you doing the proper rotation for the build you're following?
Yes
Also keep in mind that Abstinence is enough for all rewards except the emblem
Because of the low HP I got defeated by stage 12 boss
for event are we able to get the cut down ability yet or no?
i missed the first few days wondering how behind i am
yeah we can cut stuff down but the event itself is time gated
You are not so behind that it matters for anything really, it will be open until next patch so you have over a month to complete it.
vbm should be better than hofi if im doing a 2 ring vita dps run with ss chen right
probably depends, you're still in ARC for some time so try both
||https://youtu.be/K67RSdGcRGI :pepearrive:||
Fairly annoying run due to the damage output this comp's stats does in p1. I need to hit HoO's qte (especially its last tick as it does big damage) to buff her own damage output by moving HFI forward a tiny little bit at the start before going HTR, else the boss lives at the end of HFI's ATF.
p1 have to do directional input plays to make HoO q...
kyo back 
kyo front
No trio. Should I just accept demote in nirv?
yea I dont even have HoO or HoTr
Yeah ggs

lmfaoooo 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_PctNn4TMM
So after my embarrasing fiasco last week of demoting because I put off malding too long, I decided to get it done early this week. brute force paws fdd ps vs img
I think I can probably get a handful more points from dealing with the rocks better (I might have fucked up my third dodge and I'm pretty sure I delayed too long after dodging the last one), but is there anything else I can improve?
I am seeing a lot of reign solaris teams and a trio in my bracket even this early so if I'm going to +200 instead of +100 it'll probably take some work
Alright managed to hit 746 with a slightly better executed version of the same strategy but that took a lot of malding and I think I can at most grab 1-2 more than that
without doing something differently
I take it your bracket is pain?
I'm still in RL which is more dist than Agony
ngl tho im shocked that they're running hofi shill before her dkey banner even releases... like thats some weak bait there
Oh yeah for sure, but if other people dont have trio arent they all in the same boat as you?
Yes 
But I'm already seeing Trio
ah tragic
Ez oz
I'm currently number 2 in my bracket (the guy I just malded past malded right back) but I'm expecting that not to last
Remind me what you have
Was using the same team as QT
But I will list
FWS, PS, PAWS, and FDD
Main four with 4/4 (plus VBm)
Did try that
Gotten like 500 something I believe?
maybe record if you can
I'll try her out myself later if I don't forget
https://youtu.be/K67RSdGcRGI?si=ZrhtAcBgGDmXM4Zx Would it be reasonable to follow this if:
S0 R1 Kiana, SS HoO, SS HoTR, 4 star Kiana ELF?
Fairly annoying run due to the damage output this comp's stats does in p1. I need to hit HoO's qte (especially its last tick as it does big damage) to buff her own damage output by moving HFI forward a tiny little bit at the start before going HTR, else the boss lives at the end of HFI's ATF.
p1 have to do directional input plays to make HoO q...
guys new Coralie uses all atk on affixes or something different?
ty
What's Azure Empyrea's best support stigmata, and what's her best DPS stigmata?
Oh my
Magrave
U will probably never use AE dps tho
Says who.
Well you can use it if you love her but sheâs not good anymore
I know that sir....
But yeah fu hua margrave is the one you want
best dps set was hua ordinary day iirc, fov set
either that or g4 if ure running sparkle
bis weap for dps shd be flower
THANK YOU KINGđđâ¤ď¸â¤ď¸
g4 is worse than ordinary day tho iirc
ask lyo she did do an ae dps run like 2 patches ago
Ordinary king đ
Marg still being BiS for support AE is interesting though
Does HoFi AR ult do core transfer damage
Yes
Alright
Oh wow, you're one of those
Is chenxue worth rolling, or is she skippable like seraphim?
Sheâs worth rolling if you have spare crystals and want to retain nirv
Sheâs legitimately good at what she does at SS but you wonât need her outside of nirv
And obviously sheâll never pay for herself in crystals
if f2p dont bother at all
Hi
Do i just have slow hands? Cant seem to double dodge the meteors from flower
Or is it just timing issue
Because i am lacking precisely 4 sp lel for the hofi so ult
Simply because she can't let go of that atk speed from the B stig else her animations will take 5 years to end
:pepela:
Younguns don't know how cringe AE is without atk speed
Omegalul
You have to use older refs that uses that elf at least since she doesn't give much ARI compared to at least Songque
There are a lot of adjustments to make do with Kiana elf for ARI management
Emblem skills only take effect If you equip it right?
Or do you just get the effects just for owning the emblem
you only get the effects of the equipped emblem
When does the anniversary event usually take place in NA servers? Google wouldn't really give me a straight answer so i'm asking here
It's expected to be next patch
Which will be October 23rd
depends on which anniversary we're talking about, cn anni is around October and global ani (cny) is ~ February-march
Does anyone even refer to the CNY patch as anni atp xdd
i've seen some in the past coping that we'd get the artbook because it's our anni but idk atp
I extend my gratitude unto you, kind soul. Your help has made my day.
is chenxue better than DS on Trio?
ofc
by how much?
depends
not a lot iirc like 3% at S, AOPs dont matter until nirvana anyway and their main selling point is rather utilitly than dmg
hmmm, SS DS vs S0 chenxue?
S chenxue is better for trio in that case
sometimes, it matter for top 3 in RL. im a leap frogger after all~
chenxue is not the difference between you making T3 rl or not be fr
nah gap is bigger than 3% though not by much
most of the time, yea. but sometimes, i wonder: why the hell 4 players in the room have all SS units with SSS AO.
then they just have a massive skill issue and can't compete in nirvana because of that
if people would actually play good with SS units they wouldnt be in RL
true
hi
welp it's not often, really.
Hi cay
hi i just came back and still cannot comprehend astral ring (im trying to learn gradually), who would be the next best pull when all i have for AR valks are the 2 coralie battlesuits?
Best option is save for 8.5, second best is save for paws rerun at end of patch, third best... idk, probably hofi dkey if you have trio?
I'd stick with saving unless you have a ton of crystals
Assuming you have FDD and blastmetal you could also try and get boltstorm from the Asterite shop, she's really cope as a third astral ring unit but she is a third unit for FDD's leader bonus
I'm still using her for that in MA rn
#đgameplay-help message for now you can look at this, learn the other rings at your own pace, not pressing until you have more valks
~~rotation guide pinned in #đśbeginner-help ~~
thanks
I don't even shill my own stuff this often
it's not even that often 
thats why mango is superprof and ur just regular prof
Gotta get hustling
Mango is on that grind
i could do it more but i dont wanna do it completly out of the blue

Quick question, i dont have Songques weapon but her and her stigmas, would it be worth to get it if she ever reruns? Or is she not as important anymore?
Its ok cay ur my favorite prof
must not backpull paws...
I haven't been able to try lwh tb thales m on AE dps recently but I do know that FoV's set is miles better than margrave
I never refarmed my lwh after I used it for g4 fire
and speaking of g4 fire that set is also better than margrave for ae dps
yep
I just need to try lwh when I have it again but I wouldn't be surprised if ordinary day is BiS
it seemed really good
TRUE my god its so bad
Phoenix with marg became gigachad tho
me asf
I was crazy once
Am i dodging too late for hofi transition?
noway people are sweating transition
I need exactly four extra sp
commit whel
oh lmao are you cooked on ranks
Idk standard ranks
S2 hofi
Ss hoo
Ss hotr
whats a good substitute sonata set i can use on Erdos Helia
meant Stigmata*
shud be fine then 
Slow hands or wrong timing?
bros using p1 trio for real 
what u want to do here tho, u want to unlock weap?
nvm its just non astral ult 
I want to dodge the meteor twice. Like one falling meteor = 2 dodges
o
just evade and jump
Mf dont tell me its my frames
can try doing it early too, or as the meteor comes to u, maybe easier that way
Oh i can time that no problem can unlock 3rd weapon
Hmm ok
hes trying to eva eva
Whoch helia
oh
Erdos 
Pls refer to battlesuit names. Im assuming VBs
Or its it PAWS
ehhh, no prisms or fuel?
u didn't get any from pulling weap?
I didnt pull at all so i have none except 1 chest option
well first try crafting but why not pull weap
Theres honestly no alternative to stigmatas personally imo
yea
Since theyre all craftable
I mean i guess you can slap whatever you have rn
But thats not really substitute
i suppose i could.. its kinda a pain tho
thx anyways
Guys, im kinda stupid, pls help đ
hint: ||you need to extinguish the torch first||
How? I tried placing block to go up there but game doesn't allow it. Tried burning the hay on top of the block hoping i can jump on the block, but it got burned too đ
Your ice dragon man
Yeah, i give up
carefully look at your available buttons at bottom right 
After restarting my game, now i can jump to the upper floor. What the hell man.
Who shall i take? Origin or finality? I have the weapon of origin but not of finality

in a vacuum, unless you have some plans for HoFi dkey or want HoO for MA stuff then neither tbh. Rather finish the dkey collection from whats available or just sit on it till you know theres something you want/need from there.
buy dkeys you dont already have, if any. they're both bad without HoFi's dkey (waxing moon)
should i get both weapons? or is it enough with one?
oh, the sync is when you have both right?
yup
unlocking by itself won't do anything
they have no gene limit attached to them so their buffs are really just through sync
Hows Teri as a WS support since she kinda acts like a detonator when she supports 
probably not very noticable since we dont really use her as a WS support
if you need more collapse those are mostly her own weathers and if you don't there are better options
vita + hofi/fws for example
Why not?
I'd have to check buffs but i'd assume here buffs are not worth it and others are faster
Should I Run Dragon Coralie with Vita (LP) & Coralie (Vbm)?
yeah that's a pretty fine team
Uhh does this work? (Thanks marisa)
Vbm is kind of hard to use (can't run full mech team though, hard countered buy psy)
iirc i've seen some inconsistencies in those charts before and i also don't know the buff value from other WS supports from the top of my head, i also don't know how long her overall rotation is
also can't check atm sadly
I guess its just a general overview mb
No rush 
nah dw the idea itself is good i just like to confirm numbers myself
The idea of the chart, or using teri as a ws support?
the chart
Kk
so better to unlock one and sync
i mean, i forged this
and have enough to buy one DK
no\
you need that dkey if you get abyss flower
i mean by upgrading it
if you want to utilize the cost required to make Abyss you can buy Abyss Flower
otherwise just buy any dk
not by getting


then just buy any dkey
although there is 1 that has some technical niche use cases (7T)
does any other dk appear in exchange?
idk
No just Judah and Sakura in exchange
And getting Sakura there is silly
Because itâs directly sortable
im good then
can just buy anything then
any dkey*
Yeah. Tho maybe skip Fenghuang since then youâd need to craft yet another dkey pair
imo buy AF or ToE
yeah but buying anything wouldnt get me a sync in all cases
AF and ToE would
oh utu is in there too
And so would seven thunders if you donât have it
And so would an Atu. All three of them give you +10 attack

So just get whichever one you want
im saying that this is what im missing
An Atu is in the third picture
because i have the other ones
Itâs the other shamash
So yeah just get either an Atu or abyss flower
Thereâs no real difference
anyways, i can buy anything else except one of this three since i can only buy one


Wouldve been faster if we could LITE g2 
Forgot to add this in desc.
Another tip for doing more damage is after doing HFI's 2nd SO Combo, do ATF first before Ult. As the ATF allows all ticks of 2nd SO Combo to get thru first but you have to do the full sequence to get the Weapon CD reduc, so you'll have to be spending a few frames before HFI Ults at the end of ATF.
If you are confident that you could already kill with Ult in the middle of ATF and not going to finish the whole sequence, you'll have cd issues with HFI's weap active on parrying the first ball and it will be available on the 2nd ball parry, it will change your HTR timings and positionings for the 3rd and 4th ball parries. Not a big deal.
Does anyone have a ref that uses Kiana ELF with Herrsher trio with their DK?
This is what my bracket looks like. Is it possible to tell what kind of score I'd need to retain?
looks like only 3 people even tried
but also 9 people didnt even play yet so impossible to say
i imagine retaining should be really ez tho
if you look back to the time when hofi dkey was new and before we got teri there should be some kiaelf refs available
ofc D was a bit lower then but it shouldnt be too hard to adjust
i saw 4* kia elfs that got 720+ 550d so u can do better
that 720 s0+1 hofi but yea, ss hotr and ss hoo 

I failed at finding any. It's all Chenxue and Teri.
Closest I've gotten from is memory of what I did last time is 692. https://youtu.be/U-8CS_V1GnU
Ranks and atk at the end. Transition to get HoTR third mech is possible but just really hard so I just took a break from now to see what else to do.
It's already pretty clear you're overkilling way too much
Play around skipping some of HoO stuffs in p2
Find the best case for you that HTR drops boss health to execution range from the damage of her Transformation
On your first p2 rot, try HoO to just use weap after qte then Ult already
Do her Malice Expunge on 2nd rot instead
Is that the hold attack when HoOâs bar is bright silver?
Yeah, it's her combo attack with big animations
Now try to skip Malice Expunge from when you break the Big orb with Weap
Just parry it then switch to HTR
Which also means you don't need to HoO ult there before it throws the big orb at you
https://youtu.be/-JJ6H7kjLPA?si=DO0vHo66Is4c0ke3 in my second attempt, Bronya couldn't ult in time to cancel 2 wep and it was a smidge away from execution range. Because of that I changed a few things to compensate. I might have changed a bit too much though.
https://youtu.be/qwmrujNB-1s here's the fail run for context
nvm wrong clip
https://youtu.be/y6rcA9fCjQk right one, sry
Just wait for the cooldown then after you used htr weap lol
Now try to skip HoO's evade attack on last rot too
As in you'll totally ignore HoO's evade attack entirely in p2
And yeah keep that HTR evade as well after HoO parried the ball since it lines up with the CD for next transformation
Hold Attack > Evade > Ult
HTR evade animation gets cancelled early by Ult but the missiles from evade still gets fired.
Make sure HTR has 3 unlocks from transition phase for her own damage output to compensate the missing damage of not doing HoO evade attack on last rot.
shouldn't you always HoO ult
If he needs the damage, he should. But I can see with all the rest of what I'm suggesting makes him reach execution area without overkilling upon HTR transform, so he can also not do it.
And he's just parrying the ball without doing the Expunge to save more points
He'll also have Ult cd issue on HoO on 1st rot if he does uses Ult before the big orb, so there's that too which conflicts to what I suggested to him for the first rot
He still overkills way too much here doing HoO ult before big orb and he had to wait 1 point or 2 waiting for her next Ult
Now I'm asking him to try skipping the evade attack as well on last rot
he can just ult with mei earlier to not have the cd problem
the buff is too big to not use it, from her 3pc stig
lasts 20s, can ult just after parrying 4th ball and should be fine
Cx user cant relate
Wtf
Wrong sirin
wrong sirin
Xd
bruh? đ
Imejin
where do I get this one btw
since clearly there's not enough Sirin in this game đ
exchange house, aka garbage shop
thanks
so the 6k red reso
I can't believe this man, why would they make 2 diff Sirin sets or whatever
How many orbs are there in a paladin
what is sensei
!faq sensei
Hello, Captain! 
Click here to see more information about the specific Sensei/Cadet rewards. Main Cadet rewards are Crystals, Dorm Supply Cards, and Asterite.
Find a Sensei:
- EU: #đŞđş-cadet-recruit
- NA: #na-cadet-recruit
- SEA: #sea-cadet-recruit
Captains of level 6~79 can become Cadets. It is recommended to become a Cadet ASAP! This system offers rewards to both Cadets and Senseis though phase missions, which are completed by doing various weekly activities and levelling up.
A Cadet will automatically graduate upon reaching level 79. Automatic graduation cancels all rewards for the current and all following stages, so keep an eye on your missions!
alr ty
I still don't get why Mihoyo still put this old old old boss, just to let people use Trio more and more...
Stop is old team, even if you gift Dkey to finilaty
people derank on purpose just because not have the trio
can i retain nirvana with this 
I would understand it if they ran it next week tbh
it'd be weak bait to get people to pull hofi's dkey but bait is bait
but now is bizarre
depends on the room, really.
and your score
feel like the lowest entry should be kiana 4*
is kiana 4* better than SS chenxue?
because in my head, chenxue is an RoO support, so i assume chenxue is better than kiana here, since HoFi is RoO
ofc not, that's why i said lowest
is like easy 10+ increase, feels like that at least, like its prob bigger point increase, if ur not rly lacking ton of dmg, if u end up lacking ton of dmg, ur kind of like doing 2 SOs with kia elf anyways if it takes you that long to kill, then atp, u dont rly get the benefit of the extra ari
any ref for normal pleb? 
miss 1 whole bar for phase 1 
S2 HoTr is tough tbh

which one should i choose
!faq egg
Hello, Captain! 
[Click here](#đśbeginner-help message) to see the in-depth explanation of what to choose!
Ai-chan recommends that you keep this egg until you have two from the following: Shadow Knight, Sixth Serenade and Goushinnso Memento. When you own two, unlock the one you are still missing.
pretty much, so you don't end up on a case of "I just used it and suddenly got a copy from dorm wtf"
k alr ty
in a case of urgently needing crystals from ER though any of the 3 named work since each valk unlocked in ER is 620 crystals
alr
@neon narwhal i am beginner and i have like 2500 crystals what should i use it on ??
if you mean the egg just save it unless you have a case of "I need these pulls right now to get weapon" or smth
Getting behold Fate defying dragon
If you already have her, getting her weapon
no i dont have her
Then yeah pull for her, sheâs the best pull rn
alr thanks for the advice
!faq whatdkey
Hello, Captain! 
Also check out the Divine Key explanation pin [here](#đśbeginner-help message) if anything mentioned (such as "gene limit") is confusing/unknown to you.
In the long run it doesn't matter, but the ideal order is:
1 - Grips of Tai Xuan (gloves, cope glove weapon and ice gene limit).
2 - Cleaver/Judgement of Shamash (guns/greatsword, need both to sync for +10 attack and fire gene limit).
3 - Jizo Mitama (katana, phys gene limit attached to it).
4 - Star of Eden (cannon, has no attached gene limit it just exists).
if you're getting cora get the one on no 2 first
u mean the cleaver ?
Gun or Cleaver
alr
You'll get them all eventually anyways
she need her new gear to have any use in the meta, not that key of ego
and even with full investment, she is kinda niche
alr
how do you guys trigger the explosion for the 2nd phase of husk boss?
the big ball? evade or block it then attack 5 times
No trio?
no
Ew
Real shit or really shit
no snipe pls
SEA?
Trio stands for thanks. Really. Im OP
I assume yes
ys
||https://youtu.be/uG0n-3bqzEU :pepela:||
Used Nvidia app for Shadowplay, but it somehow locked me in 200 fps, I uninstall drivers just to get rid of it and reinstall drivers without it via NVCleanstall, now I'm getting more fps. Going back to my trusty ol Gamebar for recording kekw.
My 778 could be used on higher temps in the future if this boss ever comes back assuming Trio still top...
stinkyro
sushang

no sparkle so no choice
Ah
based for deleting nvidia app
Hello guys! Im a returning player from a 1 year break. I left when honkai part 2 was just starting. herrscher fu hua was still kinda new. I'm at a loss right now on where to pick up my account. I have built all herrschers except for seele. I also have fully built the herrscher trio. I have all supports for those teams with their weapons. my question is where should I invest next? considering the current meta and the upcoming banners. I am no whale tho, just an F2P.
your current crystal status?
(I alr asked them in #đśbeginner-help)
Does A rank helia like sparkle as a support, cuz of the force qte, since her domain reso mark lasts like barley anytime?
but why would you want to run A helia as leader?
or am i misunderstanding something
it's lowkey fun
Huh interesting

i mean yea it is
lowkey ran that on a lightning side stage
WS to me does look like it has fun gameplay
Because it's Breath
Unironically

more ults mean more bullets
it does introduce something different that isn't already used in the game at least
wait no, i meant more qtes mean more bullets
ult is kinda useless as a lead, but its a nice buff refresh on support slot
WS mostly QUA gaming then there's Senawho 
id lowkey get the terier if I had whale pockets
just wait for BP 
but no clue where to use her
every quantum weather I ran with sparkle and she was enough
MA quantum is the only hard requirement i can think of
Brute forced most of those with Badum 
Cuz pewpewpew
Sh
Paws dps with fdd+ ps can be an option
If you somehow have SS HoO + Hofi + dkey and Eden + her weapon you could also try HoO DPS
Eden also wants turg TB ppm ideally
HoO gear is a bit flexible though from my experience zhenyi TB schro M did best on this boss in RL
i tried but i feel like im doing smth wrong
i think its cuz i dont have fdd wep yet
so vita coralie and a third?
Lemme double check actually
HoFi
i have the characters but not SS, eden is SSS and I have all of their sig weps but i dont think i have any of the recommended stigs
alright ill try it
Yeah, PAWS is defo worse
im not beating it fast enough unfortunately
Cuz no weap, that's a solid damage loss
Also, do you know how to do Vita's BA2 cancel?
Yeah, gotta learn that if you wanna play Vita DPS
do you just jump or smth
Essentially you can interrupt the animation of the second basic by any other action
Yes, jumping is the most common one
But it's also done with evasions and ulting
Lemme find a ref rq
If no cora u can try badum
Yeah HoO DPS really wants SS
Not a perfect showcase, but enough to get the point across
https://youtu.be/VhxJ2YlLLsU?si=N8twxgQbkFuRceSH
Vita (LP) ATK : 1464
Kiana (HoFi) ATK : 1548
Coralie (VBm) ATK : 1332
yeaa i get the basic idea but ig ill stay in ag3 this time i dont think im doing it properly lol
also i dont think i can astral ring twice
should i astral before or after
yea i was dooing it after but couldnt clear first part faster, i got it now, thanks for the help!
rip, got sniped hard
U r welcome
ok, i think I'm getting crazy. It's about dragon Coralie.
Can someone explain to me why after hitting stellar outburst holding Q for dragon breath and then hitting Q DOESN'T connect to basic attack seq 3 in abyss and memorial arena but in the tutorial it works just fine? Do I need to get all her gear or what? I'm doing the same sequence on my keyboard like in the tutorial.
can you record, it's not gear reliant
have you unlocked all her skills
I can't get online to check but you may have something locked that is preventing her from connecting into the sequence
it looks like it's in the main astral ring skill
wait why are you hitting q after you dragon breath
oh yeah if you end outburst with ult you aren't gonna be able to chain into basic 3 but idk if thats what you meant
you use dragon breath holding q thing then you do basic atk and it connects to basic attack seq 3
Surprised tbh 
im pretty sure its bc theyre pressing Q when theyre not supposed to
wtf even is q
ult

how dare a mod not know this smh smh.../sarc
idk if lyo even pulled
Smh it's turn camera left
Don't you hold the attack button during her breath ?
i play kb only on my laptop do i get a pass
wait no

