💁gameplay-help

[elfin parrot]

there can be rare exceptions but for the most part you do want the 3pc

[hot silo]

its frustrating when I get a valk and her set is not complete 💔

[formal wigeon]

And it looks like Hoyo is doubling down on making those exceptions more and more unlikely to happen

[simple fractal]

what are the exceptions?

like zaychik teri/tband m teri?

[elfin parrot]

teri, vita for bleed PS, lantern for SS MA SP

[simple fractal]

omg i forgot vita with PS uses ovt alamb

[elfin parrot]

nothing a new/returning player needs to worry about really

but still something to note down the line. it's not an absolute rule to go 3pc

do you have any other questions btw Kel? I still am not quite sure what your personal goals are so let me know in case there's anything not usual that I need to cover for you

[hot silo]

So far so good, When I encounter one ill definitely make sure to message here 😭

thanks for the help thoo 😔 super helpful

[elfin parrot]

ok. one last thing then. be sure to check out #👶beginner-help pins for all sorts of general info as well

but yeah don't hesitate to ask even if something is possible covered there. We know there's too much info and we can just direct you if it is already answered

[hot silo]

okii noted

[hot silo]

yes yes

[storm ocean]

Can a kind soul give me a rot for the toast man?
I am running coralie, Helia and hofi with S teri op

[open bone]

Uh, I assume FDD, PAWS, Hofi vs sss ma litost?

[storm ocean]

Yesu

[lapis raven]

hv lp?

[lyric blaze]

how do i get the enchanted wep skill after SO ends with dragon coralie?

[crude cloak]

You need to do the full basics sequence right before ult

And if you're doing 3 stacks it's very FPS-reliant

[crude cloak]

120 is the bare minimum

[lapis raven]

120 was not enough on sss litost for me

[crude cloak]

Was it stable 120 though

[lapis raven]

was averaging 140

had to push resolution down to get that +1

[lapis raven]

[crude cloak]

New folder (2)

[storm ocean]

?

[lapis raven]

do u hv lp free

[crude cloak]

Do you have Vita

[storm ocean]

Nah locked to blob

[lapis raven]

unlucky

dont think i saw any sub ss teri runs that wasnt vita paws

[storm ocean]

I see

[lapis raven]

go check mr bex’s server if uw

but idr seeing anyt there nor on billy

personally ran this

dont think i can record this run

[storm ocean]

Not joined 😅

[storm ocean]

Probs not no lp just won't work ig

[lapis raven]

he has the inv link somewhere in the server i forgor tho

[lapis raven]

s teri can match first SO but u lose some time on second since -10 ari

thats also why i just opted to run ss sonk

[neon narwhal]

in the pins

[storm ocean]

Ah I see

[storm ocean]

Don't have any other gacha aop

[sleek imp]

(pls no bean)

[crude cloak]

😭

[rigid cedar]

ayo what the pdf doing

[craggy ivy]

Chat I heb question, if I'm at 17k xtals now, how many xtals will I have by the end of 3rd week of next patch
no beepee no mpass

[rigid cedar]

and your abis rank?

[craggy ivy]

18.4k* 5 expa cards

[cunning gull]

u can use the crystal calc bc it depends on stuff

[craggy ivy]

RL with some nirv bounce

[rigid cedar]

oh nice

[crude cloak]

Wtf slack

[craggy ivy]

I got burned by 101 myriad

[crude cloak]

Seriously though, the calc should give a pretty decent estimate

[cunning gull]

otherwise its normal to expect around 80 pulls from a patch if you stay in rl and do other stuff

[craggy ivy]

Now I'm slacc arc

[crude cloak]

I'd add a couple k's to the result

Like 2-3

[craggy ivy]

Oghei will do

[cunning gull]

[rigid cedar]

nirb burns until you meet cycle requirements to compete, its just what it is

[spiral raven]

twins

[craggy ivy]

Is the calc not pinned here anymore?

[rigid cedar]

its in #👶beginner-help pins

wall of guides

[cunning gull]

i can't stay in nirv bc ds impact

[rigid cedar]

cycle dependant IMO, but LoA is fucked without teri unfortunately

[craggy ivy]

3rd week of next patch should be nov 19/20 right

[rigid cedar]

she is the reason why im still bouncing

maybe chenxue onee-san will make some change

[craggy ivy]

Chenxue onee san is the reason I'm in this calcing predicament to begin with

[half hatch]

week 3 should be 13th-19th

[craggy ivy]

I tunnel visioned ||ely|| next patch and forgor to factor in anni/cny dkey

[rigid cedar]

i will have to ignore it, as much as I don't want to

either it or the valk

[craggy ivy]

Hoyo is getting $10 from me

[rigid cedar]

patch sucked me dry

[craggy ivy]

How many xtals is knight bp again, I still have a free knight card

[rigid cedar]

not exaggerating, imagine the worst non-hard pity banners

[craggy ivy]

I'm expecting hard pity next patch

My pulls on the prev patches have been pretty illegal

[rigid cedar]

its 600 bchip i believe

[craggy ivy]

600 xtals?

[rigid cedar]

no, bchips

[craggy ivy]

Oh I meant how many you get from it

[rigid cedar]

ohh

[craggy ivy]

I still have the anni lucky draw bp card

[rigid cedar]

idk out of my head let me check

[full trench]

2k

[craggy ivy]

Oh

Hoyo is getting $5 from me then

[craggy ivy]

Wao

[solemn panther]

22.7 atk or 13.7 fire dmg? for sparkle

[vernal terrace]

22.7 attack

[solemn panther]

oh wait, this is fine now right?

[spiral raven]

those additional dmg although they are affected by buff, they are additonal flat on top of your dmg, so pretty much for all the characters except for a few which you probably wont ever need to care about, you just go all atk

[spiral raven]

ye

[vernal terrace]

Depends on rank but should be fine for RL and below

[lapis raven]

preferably double purple lines

[ancient breach]

how do I do this

[full trench]

place a wooden stake

[ancient breach]

but how, theres no black platform

nvm, I just couldnt do it on controller for some reason

[boreal eagle]

commands sucks in this event i have at least to double click on every interaction and they also disappear if moving too much

[idle abyss]

guys im gonna lose my shit i found all the chests in stygian alley in langqiu but it says 19/20 i checked with a video playthrough four times is it a visual glitch or do i have to unlock the rest of the map's chests too

[thick aspen]

Progress story

[idle abyss]

okay ty bro

the other areas weren't map progress related

[thick aspen]

yea idk why its like it is

just one of the chest requires to to progress further in story before it appears

there doesnt seem to be any reason

[idle abyss]

triggered my ocd so bad

[lapis raven]

oh shit lets go

free pulls yay

[stiff wigeon]

This boss sucks ass

I have no clue how to do the first part of the litost boss let alone the second phase all while trying to get 800+ in redlotus seems impossible even with the main team

[rigid cedar]

which main team

fdd/paws/vita?

[lapis raven]

lol

[half hatch]

maybe this can give you some ideas
https://youtu.be/bQ8ZoFuQINo?si=6v5Ylk8Hxef95PPf

[lapis raven]

lol

[dusty dagger]

Holy pixels

[formal wigeon]

Damn I can count them on my hands

[lapis raven]

please get ur hands checked

[pale palm]

how pixel perfect must be the evasion,I keep trying and if I am lucky I will evade Litos
I hate bosses that waste your time with mechanics before you could do damage

if i manage to dodge,it will be the last one

[half hatch]

are you making sure to dodge the right way ? yellow light before the atk = jump purple = eva

iirc at least

[rigid cedar]

yes

[pale palm]

...jump
the game just tell me to evade and I thought that I actually have to evade by pressing the evade button, not that I have to jump

[rigid cedar]

but isnt it an orange light?

[rigid cedar]

yes jump

you do have a jump tutorial ingame actually iirc

i learned it the hard way on part 2 ch3 boss

because you die if you don't do it there

[quasi pier]

yeah the story calls it a mix up attack

[lapis raven]

jump jump eva for the opening

[half hatch]

since a jump dodge triggers ultimate evasion it's probably both considered an evasion per se

[pale palm]

yes I did it thanks
but the thing is,I deal way too much damage(I have been in RL for a long time and just got demoted)but because of the mechanics,I loose points

[rigid cedar]

then you can adapt your run by cutting out things you normally wouldn't. reducing your damage but being faster by not overkilling

[misty crane]

Aaaaa cant kill this boss with 1 rot

[gleaming relic]

how many amber should i be getting today?

feels like im missing some

[plucky lotus]

I am one away from upgrading the bottom right building and have to wait until tomorrow

Did you do the daily task for materials?

[static kayak]

:D

I have been struggling in abyss though...
Been stuck in agony for a while now

[manic seal]

Gettinc real irritated -- i do just fine in the second evasion phase of abyss litost, but every time i start the fight i seemingly can't evade the first two of his spinning moves and can only do it on the third. Is there something I'm not getting?

[half hatch]

if there is a yellow/orange light when he attacks you have to jump, if it's purple you need to evade it normally

and since his 2 first attacks are said attacks you need to jump dodge it should explain it

[manic seal]

:|. Thank you very much.

Clearly after reading part 1 and 1.5 and 2 back to back i lost my ability to read.

[spice helm]

is there a part 2 weapon that is the most beneficial to synergize with one of the spend event cards (given all of them are S1 currently)

[rare iris]

P2 dkeys for that extra 5 atk for all valks

[spice helm]

already got that, already got a card also

[rare iris]

Just pick the weap of the new valk if you have her then.

Thelema's weap refines can be beneficial too but her usage is declining

[last rapids]

wait next patch valk and see whats her team

and refine there

[untold scarab]

What would be a good team for clearing

Chapter 26

Currently on mission on memory in the past

[eager smelt]

hofs hot ae

[untold scarab]

Is that flame Scion?

[crude cloak]

Yes

[untold scarab]

Oh I don't know if I like how she drains her own HP

It will take time to learn how to play around it

[eager smelt]

she cant kill herself

[untold scarab]

But the enemies can

I'm not careful

[digital sky]

She gets a pretty shield aswell

[quasi pier]

it's not really draining her hp, the lost hp just turns into an hp shield

[untold scarab]

I see okay

[simple fractal]

what would be the best team for para sus

@quasi pier @crude cloak

[crude cloak]

Probably depends on how your damage lines up

[quasi pier]

they most likely want you to use paws fdd ps for para sus

[simple fractal]

fucking PS

her stupid ass
i hate that flop

[quasi pier]

badum should also work

[shut copper]

PAWS/FDD are hardlocked most likelu so ur just running a 3rd supporting slot

[simple fractal]

@crude cloak

what is EU RL disturbance rn

[crude cloak]

Lemme check

505

[simple fractal]

ty

[untold scarab]

do I have to restart if I lose to false god otto

[quasi pier]

the story boss? yeah you're supposed to win that fight

[simple fractal]

you could always just not lose

[quasi pier]

yeah you can actually lose that fight

[vernal terrace]

Is False God Otto in Kolosten Arc?

[untold scarab]

Yes it was rough but I think I got it

[elfin parrot]

please refrain from these sort of answers (can be interpreted as getting good and/or condescending) or be more straightforward if you're trying to refer to difficulty levels where you cannot die

(to give some credit your dedicated help in the other channel was well appreciated)

[simple fractal]

i was only making a jokey joke but ok i will refrain from it in the future 😭

[elfin parrot]

it's still a public channel so all sorts of people with all sorts of interpretations can happen here. And i think that kind of joke is just more prone to being taken the wrong way. Doesn't seem like it happened this time so nbd really but yeah, best to avoid it

[pale musk]

I'm trying to copy this, https://youtu.be/bQ8ZoFuQINo?si=XeN2kGDeN82hezEO , but it's not working. What am I doing wrong?

[quasi pier]

you're too close to the wall

[pale musk]

ty

[eager smelt]

thats a thing?

[quasi pier]

yeah for that opening, litost can miss you completely if you're hugging the wall too close

[pale musk]

didn't relize it to until they told me

[spiral raven]

ur just too late

can jump earlier and the end bit dodge

then immediately ult

u can also ult after second jump

timing more lenient

jump early then when dodged ult immediately and spam eva

[spiral raven]

tho this diff rot

its not because he whiffed u cuz u still took dmg

[pale musk]

I got in the right spot and I got a reasonably close score. I don't need it to be faster since RL but might as well ig.

[spiral raven]

smol d

[pale musk]

NA

[spiral raven]

hmm but i see that u still get jump off anyhow, ig the timing is actually quite lenient then

[inland compass]

sorry if its oot, but how you put that virtual keyboard on screen that follow what you type? i need that to proof that im not using cheats on different game

[spiral raven]

obs overlay

https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/input-overlay.552/

[pale musk]

It's OBS, I have to use a plug-in but I can't remember where I - oh there we go

[wary walrus]

i skipped the dialogues (who wouldn't) so what do we do here

[crude cloak]

Does the Tutorial tab in the top right not have instructions?

[stuck orchid]

Does Chenxue do anything particularly useful at S? I had a bad time on her banner and i'm 3 pulls from getting her only to realize i'm definitely not gonna be lucky enough to get an early 2nd copy

[cunning gull]

ari and she got some buffs for goi and roo but obv ss is the better investment
are you a nirv player (or wanna be there tho?)

[stuck orchid]

I bounce between rl and nirv

Just wanted to make sure i'm not missing anything and she doesn't like, unlock entirely new rotations at S like Teri does

[cunning gull]

i don't think there's much of a different rotation? she does have something related to SO cooldown but i don't remember which rank

s chen can still help you retain nirv granted that you have the right team and is willing to grind
in rl she's not needed but can still help you a bit

[stuck orchid]

That's SS, where she just reduces cooldown by like 4 seconds for free

[simple fractal]

gacha asops are generally not recommended for F2P

even light spenders. they simply arent needed

[cunning gull]

at least the ari is the main deal here bc in nirv 2 SO is common

[stuck orchid]

At S she refreshes ult cooldown and grants more Shining Trace for GoI, idr what shining trace does well so idk how important that is

[cunning gull]

which with s is fine but obv nirv peeps would push for more if they can afford it

[simple fractal]

i mean if youre 3 pulls away i feel you may as well. but dont push for SS. save for 8.5

[cunning gull]

#🎮honkai-chat message explained here

[stuck orchid]

While true, as advice idk if it's what i'm looking for. There's a big difference between what's needed and what makes the game more enjoyable. For me, i went out on a limb to get teri even though i couldn't ss her, and i didn't regret it at all because her double link attack absolutely makes the game more engaging and opens up a slightly different way to play loa teams. If Chenxue can't do the same, then i'm probably just gonna save for either a teri rerun or whatever the next astral op is (iirc pity doesn't reset? If it does then i was doomed from the first pull tho )

[simple fractal]

chenxue doesnt do anything like teri. teri is the only asop that's ever done something groundbreaking like that at S

[stuck orchid]

Good to know! Then i'm probably going to hold my pity there for now

[simple fractal]

3 pulls as in 30 pulls or 3 single pulls away?

[cunning gull]

it will depend on ur crystal economy and if u wanna retain nirv or is fine with bouncing btwn rl and nirv tbh

[stuck orchid]

Ohhh. Wait so what exactly does the extra shining trace even do if it maxes at 900? Doesn't helia already max it out anyways?

[stuck orchid]

Literally 3 singles lmao

[simple fractal]

i mean at that point you may as well

S chenxue is still good for GoI

[cunning gull]

yeah just go for it and save the crystals for 8.5

[stuck orchid]

Is that so? I'll go ahead and nab her, then.

[cunning gull]

couldve skipped if u didnt build pity alr but since u did u might as well

[stuck orchid]

Well building pity doesn't necessarily mean i have to pull her. Just checked but the game says the pity does carry over between op rounds

[simple fractal]

right but what other op would you pull lol

[cunning gull]

yeah, im not sure if theres extra benefit but at least u stack it faster

[stuck orchid]

Whoever comes next in like 4 patches

Or teri cuz having that extra ari for coralie would be nice

[cunning gull]

mhm but if u do promote to any goi or roo weather rn, at least s chen will help you out
if u were a rl dweller ig you can skip but u might as well bc of the build pity and assuming you have 1 or 2 valks that can use her

[cunning gull]

teri ranks would be more for loa or vita

[stuck orchid]

I do have Coralie and Helia's S ranks so Chenxue would help them a good deal

[cunning gull]

yeah sounds good

[simple fractal]

teri is still pretty great for cora

[stuck orchid]

That's true but the 24 ari on synergy attack is whenever you have roo

[cunning gull]

yeah but if ull invest for cora then u would go for chen ranks

will live longer too the more goi valks we get

or roo

||and 8.5 is a new goi unit||

[stuck orchid]

The issue is that teri mostly buffs lightning damage for roo, so coralie won't deal as much as an equivalent chenxue. But i think i'd still prefer ari

[stuck orchid]

About that... ||I'm actually considering skipping her just cuz i know seele will be coming soon, and she's my fav character. Even though i am mostly fine getting every character, if another DK comes out soon then i'll be kinda SOL||

Honestly the smart move in thos case is probably just to keep gambling, but i don't exactly believe in my luck with how the last few patches have turned out

And in that case, i think the extra smart move is just to get teri in 3 weeks knowing that the extra 24 ari is probably enough to squeeze in a 2nd SO whenever i'm using RoO main dps, even though it won't give GoI any benefit at all

[cunning gull]

do you have any loa valks per chance?

[untold scarab]

For chapter 26 to 28th do I have to grind a bunch of side quests after the story bit to get the rest of the crystals.

I did a few and they seem endless haha *side missions I mean)

[stuck orchid]

Literally all of em, only valk i'm missing since part 2 is sleepy teri lol

[eager smelt]

teri ranks are a waste
s is already more than enough

[cunning gull]

up to you, youll have to deal with the new valk niche tho and a dkey should show up soon ||as soon as 8.5||

[eager smelt]

coralie is just so braindead easy that she needs op since theres 0 gameplay expression to it and only ranks can win

tough life

[cunning gull]

vita does want ss on teri tho right?
im telling em to get s chen and skip for now

since theres 3 until guranteed for ao supply

[stuck orchid]

||That's basically what i'm planning for, with the idea being that a dk will be more important given that the 10 attack will help forever while elysia will eventually be no longer shilled||

[cunning gull]

again up to you esp if u wanna continue retaining and promoting
in rl it should be bruteforceable but it will be pain in nirv
||and it wont be suprising if new ely is very strong as shes the cn anni valk||

[eager smelt]

i feel like coralie took half of vitas bosses

[cunning gull]

even chicken?

since chicken is coming soon

[eager smelt]

well thats lightning

so shes gonna keep it

[cunning gull]

alr

[vernal terrace]

Vita probably keeps TC Sprout also

[crude cloak]

Yeah, it has a Lightning shield

[vernal terrace]

TC Andrius is a different question

[cunning gull]

i do have a somewhat similar question but a different scenario:
assuming i finish literally everything that i have been holding off from the game then i can get as much as 70ish extra pulls (the extra pulls are from extra crystals that i have that hopefully ill not need for 8.5) the grind will be very exhausting tho
without the grind ill only have 30ish extra pulls
which makes me wonder if i should bother going for s chen or even risk going for ss chen while not having enough to guarantee it or just save it for future patches
my original goal is to just stay in rl but I'm performing too well so i wonder if it's worth trying to survive nirv but my lack of aops and elfs is hurting me (also lack of atk but im working on that)
because either that or i just bounce between rl and nirv
lmk if im not making sense

[crude cloak]

It's pretty tanky in P2, idk

[vernal terrace]

Oh interesting

[cunning gull]

prob taken by fdd
but i won't be surprised if vita is equal or close

[crude cloak]

I don't think S CX is worth getting (we'll see on Sushang ig), and SS is too expensive

[cunning gull]

so you think i should skip but also accept the l if i go to nirv on any of the upcoming weathers?

[crude cloak]

Not having CX is not necessarily an instant L in EU

Depends on how much ATK you're lacking

[cunning gull]

idk the upcoming bosses seem to want an aop even if its just for the ari

[crude cloak]

Though on Sprout you're probably cooked even with her

[cunning gull]

bella boss showed me that i don't have enough dmg to kill the boss in one SO (need to refresh buffs) and if i SO early the second is the near end of the boss bar

[cunning gull]

i think im missing max 60 atk

[crude cloak]

Oh wow

Does that include Synergies?

[cunning gull]

yes

[crude cloak]

Okay, not as bad ig

Still a lot

[cunning gull]

either 60 or 70

i need to check ingame

my affix quality isn't the best tho

the s valks are sitting on 1430-1440 attack (without including the emblem)

[crude cloak]

That's more easy to fix compared to dkeys

[cunning gull]

idk what to do this cycle tho 😭
if i get 100 on litost ill promote again

[crude cloak]

Gotta specify the acc-wide ATK gap

[vernal terrace]

Don't worry, I'm missing more than you.

[crude cloak]

Just don't fully clear the sidestage

[cunning gull]

its alright you're newer than me

[crude cloak]

At the last hour or two clear it just enough to get T4 or so

[craggy ivy]

Free 20 xtals + 6 atk from nirv emblem

[cunning gull]

is there a point to be in nirv in chicken boss tho if that's what i have

[crude cloak]

As I've said, you're 100% cooked there

[cunning gull]

i wanna keep the emblem but ill continue to bounce btwn nirv n rl

[crude cloak]

Unless you get the slackest bracket in EU ig

[cunning gull]

would be cool to unlock myriad emblem for collection points tho

[cunning gull]

give me ur bella bracket

[craggy ivy]

Unless eu is that slacc idt myriad ds is doable

[crude cloak]

You ain't getting that anytime soon tbh

[crude cloak]

Wdym, I demoted xdd

805 was T10

[cunning gull]

😭

[craggy ivy]

Esp since SS teri and chenxue both have ari regen

[vernal terrace]

Mango with that one Hellmaru bracket when using PAWS dps

[cunning gull]

or should i promote this cycle and intentionally take the l on img flower since i don't even have a img valk for it in rl

[crude cloak]

With a lot of luck you can promo on that with Vita DPS

If you're in RL ofc

[craggy ivy]

How much luck are we talking about

[cunning gull]

idts
vita on that boss only worked for me once 😭

[craggy ivy]

Because trio rots are fairly braindead

[cunning gull]

i was thinking of trying paws in rl

[craggy ivy]

Your only hope is <10 trio owners in the brack

[crude cloak]

RL doesn't know how to play Flower

[crude cloak]

That could work too

[cunning gull]

either that or ranked trio just love being with me

[craggy ivy]

Issit

[crude cloak]

This schedule is ass, we get fucking Hellmaru after HoI

[craggy ivy]

Hellmaru my beloved

[crude cloak]

And you're cooked on that too

[vernal terrace]

Me deciding on who to use for Flower

[cunning gull]

is there even a ds approved nirv cycle this patch lol

[crude cloak]

Sushang?

Especially considering your PAWS is S2

[vernal terrace]

Was about to say Lightning Sprout

[crude cloak]

Nice joke

[cunning gull]

i have 1975 rn, i need to somehow get 100 on flower (doubt)

[craggy ivy]

You mean anni valk shill boss?

[crude cloak]

Actually, it does 2 SOs, might be a toughie too

[cunning gull]

[vernal terrace]

Chenxue better for Para Sushi

[craggy ivy]

No room for eva farming either to ari scam

[cunning gull]

at least the takeaway is to save for now?
ig if im cooked on all of these weathers for nirv i can get 100 on litost so i can actually sleep on flower

[crude cloak]

Yeah

[cunning gull]

the only other potential l ill have to deal with in rl can be physical img boss but ps + jds should be enough
tank is retainable in rl hoping that fdd can give me enough boost

okay thank yall

[crude cloak]

Nvm, there's a row missing in the embed
It's HoI -> Sa -> HoD -> Hellmaru

Sa might be DS-approved

[cunning gull]

i could get more ranks to my s2 hohe but for now i used the pure witch orb for locks

[crude cloak]

Probs HoD too, but no RS

[cunning gull]

yeah..

sa doesn't need teri????

[crude cloak]

You SO only once there, and double Shift might not be necessary

[vernal terrace]

I'm forced to use DS on HoD since DS has better DMG for PS than Chenxue

[crude cloak]

I didn't try myself though

[cunning gull]

damn i wish i knew i could have promoted to nirv during 8.3 sa 😭 i thought i would have been cooked there)

[cunning gull]

its fine its fine

[crude cloak]

What are your options?

[vernal terrace]

PS, FDD, FWS, and PAWS

[cunning gull]

ig paws

[crude cloak]

Definitely not FWS

And not FDD

PAWS should be better than PS

[cunning gull]

does the boss have any res? idr

[crude cloak]

No

[vernal terrace]

Don't think so

[cunning gull]

👍

[vernal terrace]

IMG just a pain to kill without an IMG Valk

[cunning gull]

type counters and their mechanics

[craggy ivy]

Nah flower also has additional weakness mechanic like rime

If you don't kill before weakness expires your damage falls off a cliff

[vernal terrace]

[cunning gull]

i did mean that in general (like qua and its collapse thing and sd and its critical point if its far too reach) but ur right

[next fulcrum]

i legit cant tell where to ask this but imma ask here

I got the returnee event, but i dont see the returnee supply event? did they remove it? I saw marisa's calendar and it mentions a returnee supply...

[half hatch]

There are 2 different returnee events the one with the banner only trigger after you didn't log in for 60 days

Idr exactly when the first one triggers

[vernal terrace]

Not like Thelema is worth it

[next fulcrum]

i mean it would still be nice to be able to obtain her, but yeah i dont see it lol

so theres 2 returnee events and i just so happen to not get the one with the returnee supply?

[half hatch]

You probably didn't log in for less than 60 days

[shrewd python]

I have BFD LP VBM and I got this score should I try again does anyone have like a guide video or smthn

SEA server but not like thats super relevant

[crude cloak]

Is your gear maxed? Cuz this score is very low

[half hatch]

i don't have a guide for that exact team but you should easily be able to get 830+

are you making sure to ignite his clones at the beginning/transition after evading them

[cunning gull]

can you show your run and a quick preview of how the gear looks like? i could maybe make a vid but im in rl

[full trench]

i saw 791 in rl with paws vbm but probably higher level gear and more dkeys

[vernal terrace]

I'm 820 with that team

[full trench]

this was sea

but yeah probably not capped

[vernal terrace]

Ah yeah

[cunning gull]

acc i have an unrelated question but do you happen to know someone whos in na nirv (or if youre in it) for this cycle? i just wanna take the dis

[full trench]

checked yt and just found eu/sea

[cunning gull]

ah i see its ok

[vernal terrace]

Yeah I rarely see NA

[full trench]

slack server

[vernal terrace]

True

[open bone]

Was there a ref you used, my runs with that same team are all super scuffed and I’m at 780 rn

[vernal terrace]

Well again I also have S Chenxue
But no Hieu doesn't use VBm
Though I can give a rough rot later if you need one

[open bone]

I think I mostly need the intro, I don’t reliably get my buffs up and the dodges done in one run

[vernal terrace]

Troubles timing your jumps?

[open bone]

Maybe? Definitely troubles with something in there

[vernal terrace]

Also can do WA Ult WA at the start with VBm
While the evading part with first one, I just jump for the first two then evade for the last, QTE to PAWS then QTE to FDD doing her normal rotation

[open bone]

Ah just wait it out instead of qteing in the middle. I’ll try it

Probably can’t get 820 because I have less attack and no s2 but hopefully that beats my current score

[vernal terrace]

I can record a run in a moment if that helps

[open bone]

Would be great

[vernal terrace]

Using DS?

[open bone]

Yes please

[vernal terrace]

Alright

[mortal jetty]

Ur team is fdd paws vbm DS?

[vernal terrace]

Yeah
I have ref for them

@open bone

Probably scuffed plus I'm missing a ton of attack but the best run I had

[mortal jetty]

Is it s2 fdd?

@open bone

825 run ....can probably 830

[vernal terrace]

Yeah
Also missing 126 attack
Mostly Divine Keys

[mortal jetty]

Qtesserqact is also.missing a lot of attack i think

[vernal terrace]

Likely more than me

[vernal terrace]

Mine is
QT's S0

[mortal jetty]

Yeah he can try both run and see

Mine is S0

[vernal terrace]

801 is maybe retainable?
Yours too

[mortal jetty]

830 is +100 in.RL

[vernal terrace]

Ah

[mortal jetty]

If they get 825+

[vernal terrace]

I'm -10 that score
Though with S Chenxue anyways

[mortal jetty]

Hmm.u should atleast 840

[open bone]

I’m definitely missing more atk

I have free dkeys and an Atu

[vernal terrace]

Maybe close since I'm missing a lot of attack

[mortal jetty]

U can try both run.and add more hit

[open bone]

And I haven’t even maxed out my dorm yet

[mortal jetty]

[vernal terrace]

Asa's is probably better for DS

[mortal jetty]

Ur run.was with chenchen ?

[open bone]

Anyway thanks both of you for your refs

[vernal terrace]

No that was SS DS
But yeah

[mortal jetty]

Riley new ref maker

[vernal terrace]

Since I have an iPad I can do that now

[vernal terrace]

I might follow this to see if it's better

[mortal jetty]

Good luck

[vernal terrace]

Gotten 860 on Bella
Lantern- that transition was pain

[mortal jetty]

Always has been

[vernal terrace]

True

[mortal jetty]

Not something new tho

[vernal terrace]

Time to sleep next cycle though

[open bone]

gotta shill hofi when they rerun her dkey

[vernal terrace]

Yeah

[terse cobalt]

should i do the discounted pull?? im on 81 from guaranteed

[full trench]

yes

[cunning gull]

sure thing

do tell if you get fdd

[sacred cape]

Anyone got ref s chenxue or sss Teri for s coralie for both MA and abyss thanks

[lament prairie]

WHY EVERYONE USING VITA

mines S0 I stick to sushang for abyss right

[boreal eagle]

they say vita s0 or SS is no difference as support for cora

[willow wedge]

Ok so I am trying to beat pishacha with fully geared palatinus, fully geared HoS, and no gear starry impression. I have Theresa gluttony stig, but no beethoven (i thought i did) and so ive been using starlit astrologos gear and cross on her. It's just i can't bleed it enough to beat the second phase, it keeps out healing me. Maybe my rotation is wrong and I don't think I fully understand starry's kit and how she activates bleed, pls help or confirm that I genuinely can't beat this thing for now

[lament prairie]

oh I'm stupid I forgot cora is roo

LOL

[lament prairie]

fastest way to spam bleed with si is basic (or ult) > hold basic

[willow wedge]

Should I spam basic everytime its getting healed to stop the process?

[lament prairie]

tbh I forgot how pisacha heal works lemme check

the boss desc doesn't have it?

[willow wedge]

Nope

And on YouTube everyone beats it so fast with p2 teams i cant even see the explanation on screen lol

[lament prairie]

ah yea loa spamming

[boreal eagle]

suck the HP

[willow wedge]

Omg you're a lifesaver

So every time that pops up, I have to swap to starry and spam basic atks or ult?

[lament prairie]

well the thing is I think the game forces you to use a bleed dps to get bleed stacks because iirc SI can't get you more than 1 stack, see how it says 5 here?

If you own her older counterpart or susannah it may be worth using her instead if you're losing a ton of time bc of the heal, I'm not very familiar with how non bleed dps pisacha works tho (the answer is kinda just.... it doesn't)

I literally can't find anything in skills about bleed stacks tho

Pisacha has always kinda forced you to use a bleed dmg dealer

[willow wedge]

Ahhh I figured yeah, damn and I don't wanna lvl her counterpart or susannah since I'm saving resources. Guess I'll just have to let this one go (both units are lvl 1)

[dusky mantle]

Hi

Somehow cant do the 2nd jump dodge after helia ult

Do i just have slow hands

[lament prairie]

[dusky mantle]

W/o doing helia ult i can do it no problem

[lament prairie]

wot fps

[dusky mantle]

30

[lament prairie]

....probably an fps diff

[spiral raven]

maybe jump earlier and let the end bit of the jump catch it, otherwise, try different position, also, you didn't spam ult the moment u got the dodge off

[full trench]

position should be good i think your inputs are just slow

dodge the first one earlier if you still cant get it

[dusky mantle]

This is the part where i say

Slacc time

[edgy hamlet]

man this le toast transition is so tricky

[full trench]

trying to do the bug?

[dusky mantle]

Theres a buggg?

Also ive managed to the jump

[edgy hamlet]

theres a bug???

[dusky mantle]

Unfortunately, i accidentally switched to coralie instead of vita lmao

[full trench]

yeah apparently if you kill litost when hes in the middle of an attack and then evade it transition goes faster

[dusky mantle]

Actually if you kill litost the abyss ends

[edgy hamlet]

Is there a video example?

[full trench]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV18fhGzJEfD

[edgy hamlet]

Hmm I see whats happening but I cant tell if it's actually faster lmao

[full trench]

apparently 24pt gain

[edgy hamlet]

24???

[full trench]

its a lot yeah

[edgy hamlet]

hold on am I looking at the right point in the video? You meant killing him in P1 during his attack animation? 0:38?

[full trench]

yes

and then you have to evade it

[edgy hamlet]

Im overkilling him currently so thats gonna be hard to damage control

[full trench]

yeah same

na moment

[edgy hamlet]

NA refs so rare

[formal wigeon]

That guy is trigger happy on the resets

[full trench]

yeah lmao

[spiral raven]

bug less is 51 point transition they do it in 20

[boreal eagle]

hope they fix next time

reported

[spiral raven]

they lazy now or something, used to be so proactive in closing abyss

[edgy hamlet]

this may be a dumb question but did he die of DoT dmg

[formal wigeon]

Yes

[edgy hamlet]

yea fuck it Im not bothered to try this

[spiral raven]

cn peeps reported alr, but yea

[dusky mantle]

Hahaha i just used hfi insread of paws

Slack life fun

[edgy hamlet]

Anyone else keep bugging out of the arena right before the transition?

[spiral raven]

yea

[edgy hamlet]

ok it happened again

[gleaming relic]

guys, alternative team for MA litost if no coralie?

[spiral raven]

try loa

w/e free

[edgy hamlet]

wtf I just went from 805 to 817 and ive no clue what i did different

[spiral raven]

bug moment

[edgy hamlet]

wait could it be

wait no that transition took me like 52 points

[spiral raven]

oh, 51 is normal

so something else

[edgy hamlet]

[spiral raven]

u turned on dk or wat

[edgy hamlet]

no i havent left to menu yet

[spiral raven]

time 2 recoud urself

[edgy hamlet]

I was following a 807 rot too

[spiral raven]

too rpo

[edgy hamlet]

I did record it

[jade badge]

sena weapon or hofin card from bp (i have hofin dkey)

[spiral raven]

sounds like card to me, but see wat others think ig

[full trench]

depends on what u have, sena wep is good for ele wod and hofi isnt too useful if u have vita fdd and paws

sena dps aside from the fact that it doesnt run ur kind of deadge since the standard is ranked now so i wouldnt rly consider that

[grim geode]

what aop did they use here

[spiral raven]

chenxue

[grim geode]

why cant i get that 133 starting astral charge

[spiral raven]

might be cora ranks

[grim geode]

rip

[spiral raven]

u get the ring at the start anyways if u have chenxue

u dont need to start at 133

[grim geode]

i lack 10

[spiral raven]

u start at 108?

[grim geode]

ye

[spiral raven]

hmm, idk, thats weird

mind record ur opener

[full trench]

idt 2 so in rl is even good with chenxue

[grim geode]

ill just ult with helia ig

[spiral raven]

oh yea i thought u ulted, nvm that explains it,

[dusty dagger]

It shouldn't be

[buoyant thistle]

How to do this part?

[plucky lotus]

Craft and Use Molotov cocktail item on unlit torch

[buoyant thistle]

Where craft

[plucky lotus]

Bottom right building of town (golden courtyard)

[buoyant thistle]

?

[plucky lotus]

You should have some by this point and you can use them by pressing the gift box icon to the right

You can check all the golden courtyard buildings to see what you can craft

[buoyant thistle]

Ok ty

[buoyant thistle]

I can't craft molotov. It say to progress in story before

[plucky lotus]

You will have to do dailies to get enough materials to upgrade buildings and capture sidekicks to progress story

[undone geyser]

is ss chenxue important or s good enough

[half hatch]

if your goal isnt retaining nirvana in the near future she's not worth it at all, if you're already at the point where she'd make the difference to retain nirvana SS is definitely the more important rank the only thing S provides is dmg, intial ari and 120 SP for GoI which isnt gamebreaking

SS gives ari regen for GoI and RoO, additional 200 SP for GoI when activating SO and SO CD reduction
though it's also a question if you can even afford her

[formal wigeon]

S Chenxue is pretty ass and not worth the pulls

you either aim for top myriad and get SS or don't bother

[boreal eagle]

ye i heard SS ds is better

[wraith brook]

we had coop in hokai 3rd before right? they removed it?

mango

[half hatch]

SS ds def shouldnt be better in GoI and RoO teams, outside out of those teams SS DS and Chenxue should be pretty close since she has some unconditional buffs

[half hatch]

yeah got removed in 7.3

replaced with RoB

[boreal eagle]

removed forever ye

[full trench]

for sushang chenxue was worse idk about ele dps

[half hatch]

it's probably just very situational and also depends how saturated the team already is with ele/phys dmg taken buffs

[wraith brook]

:( okay

[formal wigeon]

not better, but the difference at S is too low to be worth the pulls

[wraith brook]

what's RoB?

[half hatch]

Realms of battle

[wraith brook]

okay

[mortal jetty]

In nirvana s chenchen > SS Dreamseeker by 10 points smh

In RL the difference is not massiv

[boreal eagle]

they lied to me

[mortal jetty]

Who?

[boreal eagle]

armada member that said i tested on beta bro trust

[mortal jetty]

How did he test ? Its the question

I tried it on bena, latern and shitost

[half hatch]

imagin S chen < SS DS in GoI and RoO scemhoyo at it again

thankfully it's not like that lol

[mortal jetty]

Bena 785 (DS) vs 795 ( chenchen) nirvana
Paws dps on Latern ( 750 vs 762) nirvana
Litost ( 845 vs 851) RL

[boreal eagle]

he writed this in his guide

[mortal jetty]

Did he test it at higher D?

[half hatch]

is this referring to non GoI and RoO teams ?

because if not that's just false lol

[mortal jetty]

At lower D you can barely notice a difference... beta D is too small

[boreal eagle]

i tell him to specify next time

[mortal jetty]

480D is ago 3D

[half hatch]

and even if it's referring to their universal supportive capabilities S chen > S teri, S teri doesnt give any AR charging buffs for Non LoA and RoO teams

[thick aspen]

This is why I read nothing and just assume that Hoyo won't heck up "new > old"

worked so far

[clear path]

In MA, the moment a valk is lock, theres no way to unlock it even if u overwrite the score right?

[thick aspen]

yes

do note that even if the game warns you about locking in valks when you start the stage they are only actually locked in when you kill the boss and finalize the score

if you dont save your score nothing gets locked

[undone geyser]

its cause i have her but dont know if i should be trying to get ss

im not gonna go for it though

good enoigh for rl

[mortal jetty]

Yes

No need to bother in RL

[hoary pebble]

im trying to replicate Hieu Les rot but after Helias first jump and ult Litost uses a different attack i dont know what im doing wrong maybe im just too slow

[half hatch]

In the opening litost should always do the same attacks, the timing can be a bit tight though try to dodge his first attack as early as possible

[rare iris]

I know what else is tighter

[hoary pebble]

ah i see i actually try to dodge it when he is just about to hit Helia

[half hatch]

Yeah you can dodge a bit earlier then

[hoary pebble]

thank you

[hoary pebble]

yeah i just cant do it

[mortal jetty]

U can try this opener

[lament prairie]

asaphie do u hab ref for this boss

I'm just looking for one idk what team to play since my vita is s0

[mortal jetty]

https://youtu.be/9dBxG3huXQc

U can try Paul run

[lament prairie]

ouchie

he outwhel mi

even if my chenchen SS?

[mortal jetty]

You can still do around 820

[lament prairie]

I'm happy with 810+ so good enough for me

[mortal jetty]

P1 is overkill even with ss chenchen and no synergy

[mortal jetty]

Then u are fine

810 should be easy 🫂

[thick aspen]

ss vita does nothing here and yeah p1 is giga overkill either way

p2 maybe enough to just hold button for cora breath

[lament prairie]

that'll do xD

look at this slaccet

[thick aspen]

looks normal to me

whenever the boss is not a target dummy people's scores just fall off the cliff for some reason..

[vernal terrace]

9 people in mine still haven't woken up yet

[lament prairie]

he's not a target dummy?

oh tbf its sat not sunday I forgot

I might try for 820 seems perfectly doable

[rigid cedar]

me sitting in the canyon

its getting better though

[thick aspen]

:D did u see daniels clip

[rigid cedar]

not yet

[eager smelt]

i do no dmg

this boss is so tanky

[rigid cedar]

aintnoway

[vernal terrace]

Wth

[rigid cedar]

i guess the real litost is the occlusion culled reimu along the way

[thick aspen]

wdym hes so paper you have to think of every way to cut dmg

[eager smelt]

wtf

hes so tanky i have to add dmg

[vernal terrace]

He's paper to me

[eager smelt]

i literally cant clean kill

[rigid cedar]

p1 seems fine enough, but it makes for annoying 2 SO management

dont kill faster otherwise

at least i dont believe so

[vernal terrace]

I just save my SO for phase 2

[rigid cedar]

well im nirb and need SO for phase 1 too

[vernal terrace]

Though double SO sounds like Nirv

[rigid cedar]

yes its exactly that

[vernal terrace]

[rigid cedar]

plus S Chenxue means i only need 1 drain in the beginning

[vernal terrace]

Need SS Chen for double SO

[rigid cedar]

thanks to all the dodges and hits you have to do to litost anyway

[rigid cedar]

well i'm doing it with S anyway

works

i just dont know yet how to shoehorn vita in

[vernal terrace]

[rigid cedar]

cant stack her stupid stacks in transition, need ignite

[thick aspen]

just do vita on one of the transition waves

[rigid cedar]

i cant do both stacks though, not enough time

[thick aspen]

yes

still better than doing it when boss is active

[rigid cedar]

true

okay fine i'll do that

[mortal jetty]

Ram 800 where?

[hoary pebble]

this is probably a very weird question to ask but how do i get better? i almost always struggle with the rots and its honestly quite frustrating

[thick aspen]

by practice

[mortal jetty]

If you want to get better try to record your own run and look at parts to improve

[hoary pebble]

got it👍

[mortal jetty]

U also need to try a lot of stuff
Sometime weird things can also work

[hoary pebble]

sadly that might take a while to do lol the game freezes for a second or two every 5-10 seconds

[thick aspen]

thats not good

[mortal jetty]

Yep

[thick aspen]

are you playing on phone or what

try setting lower settings if your system cant handle it

[hoary pebble]

yeah im playing on a phone

[thick aspen]

if you are already everything lowest then rip

[vernal terrace]

I can already feel the pain of using phone

[mortal jetty]

What should I say then?

[thick aspen]

something about 3k fps

[mortal jetty]

@ lyo Paul is bullying me

[hoary pebble]

yeah im already at the lowest settings

[mortal jetty]

What phone do u use?

[hoary pebble]

Redmi Note 10S

[mortal jetty]

@crude cloak do u have some experience with it?

[eager smelt]

lower the resolution

fps and credit card are skill

[round arch]

honestly why does everyone think vita ranks do shit here

[thick aspen]

because its heccin unintuitive that her breach buff grows bigger with ranks but only in ws/wod/loa team

[lament prairie]

cuz hes bio

and shes mech

for someone who has never played the boss doesn't know if vita does any dmg to him

[round arch]

Vita ranks doesnt do anything in ROO other than being main DPS and for GOI she isnt even considered viable...

[lament prairie]

you mald yourself, you know firsthand that sometimes a little bit of support dmg can be very important

[round arch]

yes it helps a bit

since high atk

[lament prairie]

it's not that wild to assume that ranks on a type advantage support might be significant

[round arch]

but nothing noticing

[half hatch]

she has like +3% ele dmg taken on s3 but depends on the fight and person if that does much ig

[vernal bronze]

@night parcel where's the music???

https://tenor.com/view/honkai-impact-chrono-navi-ai-chan-gif-26969700

[normal cloak]

Exalted MA Refs for 09/02/2025 - 09/07/2025 [Invite Link Here](#💁gameplay-help message)
Lantern [SSS]: https://discord.com/channels/1353576258038005760/1366127264101695579
Rimestar [SSS]: https://discord.com/channels/1353576258038005760/1353589045321662484
Sampo: https://discord.com/channels/1353576258038005760/1411515827257217024

[upper wharf]

835 woo

[tropic pike]

I'm just wondering what does hi3 gameplay looks like

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[tropic pike]

There is so much stuff going on

[eager smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoGLpKoT330
heres some gameplay

[tropic pike]

Thx

[eager smelt]

shameless self advertising

[half hatch]

really depends on the boss and the valk, valks can be quite different from each other

[tropic pike]

What are these elements 😭

[eager smelt]

ice ice and lightning

[quasi pier]

we have types and elements here

[tropic pike]

How many elements and types are there?

[half hatch]

4 dmg types 6 valk types

[tropic pike]

Oh there isn't so much

[half hatch]

here's an example of a more recent abyss and another valk
the channels has quite a lot of videos with different valks and in different ranks/gammemodes
https://youtu.be/bQ8ZoFuQINo?si=bNPZlsx8hq_cdVWe

[eager smelt]

coralie so boring to play

[half hatch]

yeah

[vernal terrace]

She's fun to me

[half hatch]

she's one of the more repetitive valks and her rotations doesnt really have a lot of space to change things

[full trench]

mfw her "tech" is not holding a button

[dusty dagger]

[full trench]

revolutionary

[dusky mantle]

827 good score i guess

[full trench]

get bug run

[dusky mantle]

Still cant repeat the paws jump after ult so i just used hofi instead

Lel less brain cells

[dusty dagger]

You have to stand in the corner apparently

Well not at the corner itself but near it

[dusky mantle]

No i just have slow hands

[dusty dagger]

[eager smelt]

i can stand in the middle

its just timing

[dusty dagger]

Ok cool

[eager smelt]

dont think position matters

[dusty dagger]

[dusky mantle]

Is this the trans

Thing

[full trench]

yeah

[dusky mantle]

I see no need for the moment

[full trench]

i got it way more easily standing in a different spot than where u spawn

[full trench]

love of the game

[dusky mantle]

Nah

Rather take it slow and chill

[quasi pier]

yeah we're just chillin

[upper wharf]

I get it like 25% of the time

[dusky mantle]

Slacc wtf

[upper wharf]

how does that work actually

[dusky mantle]

Hold Atk. Release on first bae consumed. Hold again after 2nd bar

Still dont know why it works

It just does

[upper wharf]

oh so only 1 release

[full trench]

you dont hold the button and it goes faster but does less damage, you can hold for a little bit for a middle ground

holding for a little bit only lets you fit an extra whole combo in at high fps but i think its less damage than full hold and only doing ba3 wa

[lapis raven]

holding all 3 means she does 4 atks

holding 1 and 3 means she does 3 atks

[dusky mantle]

Black magic

[warm lantern]

is impair and phys breach the same?

[mortal jetty]

!faq physical breach

[night parcel]

Understanding Breach

Yo, Captain!

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[mortal jetty]

!faq impair

[night parcel]

Understanding Impair

Allow me to explain, Captain!

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[boreal eagle]

cora SS has more ar regen ?

[hybrid ingot]

is getting the HoS brick for a mere extra 10 atk rly worth it?

[vernal terrace]

What other DKey do you not have?

[eager smelt]

no

10 atk wont matter unless ur maxing ur score

[open bone]

It's not worth pulling just to get the dkey but if you have the points the dkey is worth grabbing

each individual dkey isnt huge but they add up

[hybrid ingot]

the brick is the only thing i dont have

[vernal terrace]

What awa said then

[hybrid ingot]

yeah but i feel like missing out on the limited outfit is worse

[open bone]

Well from a meta perspective the brick is obviously better than the outfit which has no meta use but yeah if you like the outfit get it

getting outfits without having to spend crystals on it always good

[dusky mantle]

Hi

How to do bug trans

[fast barn]

Unfortunately SSS

[dusky mantle]

I love the game now.

Xd

[wild lily]

Yall 20 atk or 14 atk and 13 fire dmg?

[crude cloak]

13 Fire DMG is negligible (it's not a percentage, it's a flat increase), so 20 ATK

[wild lily]

Thnx

[tropic pike]

What does hi3 gameplay looks like

[scarlet pebble]

like how we play or end game early gam stuff

[scarlet pebble]

example how hi3 gameplay

[half hatch]

I believe we've already linked you some videos and a channel which has a lot of gameplay footage or is there anything specific you want to know

[tropic pike]

Could u send again please

[half hatch]

#💁gameplay-help message

[tropic pike]

Thx

[dusky mantle]

Uwu

[scarlet pebble]

[edgy hamlet]

How many points does fast breath save again?

[thick aspen]

a couple

but you lose dmg ofc

[edgy hamlet]

hmm I barely have enough damage in second phase so maybe it's not worth it

[thick aspen]

probably not

[half hatch]

Most of cora techs are whel shit

[thick aspen]

what whel

[half hatch]

Dkey whale

[thick aspen]

litosto p1 is so squishy even with fast breath you still mega overkill

its just situational

[half hatch]

I don't

[edgy hamlet]

me neither

[half hatch]

I need to do half fast breath otherwise I won't kill with finisher

[edgy hamlet]

actually I jut got +10 atk from my affixes today and my score went up to 820

[pulsar sail]

Well, I tried lowering my graphics and what not on my phone

And I still have problems with Rotations

[spiral raven]

for what

[pulsar sail]

Like how back then I was able to fill Coralie's meter during SO to all 3 Bars, now I can only get 2

And I already have Chenxue

[spiral raven]

are you pressing weap when she dives down immediately

[pulsar sail]

Yes

[spiral raven]

r u able to record

60 fps?

[pulsar sail]

30 actually

[spiral raven]

try changing to 60? or u cant

[pulsar sail]

Considered

[spiral raven]

well give that a shot

[hoary pebble]

i tried Hieu Les Coralie,Vita,Helia rot a few more times and i feel like im dodging almost at the same time as him but i always fail the second dodge it doesnt have to be frame perfect does it?

[half hatch]

Are you standing near the corner ? Should be easier that way

[hoary pebble]

i tried that a few times but it didnt seem to make much of a difference im always a second too late

[half hatch]

Hm the only thing I've noticed is that sometimes even though it looks like he already finished his attack I still dodge it so don't restart too early otherwise it works for me most of the time with the way hieu Le does it

[hoary pebble]

oh ok i will try it again

[dusky mantle]

Oh shit abyss

[mortal jetty]

The opener is a a bit tight at low fps tbf..

But doable

[timid isle]

Sorry I don't have any advice for you :(

But I am here for something elseee I'm doing the summer friendship event, I have to build Kevin's horse then the story will progress. I could wait for materials to be crafted or do the daily training but I'm waiting anyway since it's a few hours I think.

I just have no idea when the daily training levels up for more rewards. Does anyone know? I've searched and watched vids but figured I'd ask here before I waste more time on that.

My heart point level is 4, vill v daily training level 2

Ah okay I found a CN vid in case anyone comes here to ask~ (adding spoiler anyway) || while at heart level 4 and 5 it seems vill v daily training will be level 2 still so there's no need to wait for her to level up. ||

[plucky lotus]

I'm material limited so I just do daily as soon as daily reset comes

[buoyant thistle]

Is thelema main DPS?

[formal wigeon]

Every p2 s rank is both dps and support

[buoyant thistle]

So is dps also

Ty

[plucky lotus]

i cant get one more point! It didnt matter because the whales woke up and pushed us down further.

[formal wigeon]

punished for slacking

[neon narwhal]

on pischacha is there any way to get above 933 with PS FWS JDS no teri?

[mortal jetty]

Yes

Do u have a record?

[rigid cedar]

german buffs?

no trans bug score, trying to master trans first

i may be able to make the cut?

[neon narwhal]

tanks fps but I'll try making one. What I'm doing is
PS wa -> qte badum wa -> qte song ca ult -> qte sus wa ult
p1 ends at 57
p2 is full sus spam with ring, ult is up before last part of the enhanced wa and kills most of the time

[mortal jetty]

I assume u are using DS?

[neon narwhal]

SS chen for the initial ari

[mortal jetty]

Okay

Let me cook

[half hatch]

woah star also has SS chen

[neon narwhal]

was at 22 pity for aop so committed

skipped paws tho so somewhat suffering on that end

[half hatch]

[rigid cedar]

how bad is it?

i mean the score diffs without her don't seem too bad on fdd?

[neon narwhal]

yeah just +-10 ig, mostly MA cause I now have to suffer on vita's slow ah
no S2 for the time frac on wa

[rigid cedar]

or you go hofi vbm i guess

[neon narwhal]

[full trench]

i did same opener but no song ult and p2 sus shift ult into jds shift ca and then the boss dies in the middle of fws shift

946

[half hatch]

don't you insta SO with SS chen anyway

my fdd attacks is just ass that's why my score is so low

[neon narwhal]

still a -2 on opener cause vita no tf

[half hatch]

hm true paws stellar drain is pretty fast

[mortal jetty]

@neon narwhal i got 946

[neon narwhal]

oh wow

here recording, somewhat scuffed run

[half hatch]

asapipi can you try what you can get with ps/fws/hohe on pistacio

[neon narwhal]

can you gib the rot please

[mortal jetty]

Okay let me see

@neon narwhal

[neon narwhal]

[mortal jetty]

@half hatch

You can definitely 946 with ur fps if u cook a bit

Oh u have ss teri

Even easier

U can just sus double super qte

@half hatch

[neon narwhal]

Wtf

Anyone got the bug where pischacha gathers despite last blob having hit count left

Also thanks asaphielao for the rot

[mortal jetty]

No problem..
Did u got 946?

[tired swallow]

is Lone Starfarer Vita worth investing into vertically?

[half hatch]

it's never really worth it to get ranks or syngergy for a character unless you're a whale

[tired swallow]

thanks

[half hatch]

thankies got it

[mortal jetty]

[neon narwhal]

Not yet, probably hands issue

[mortal jetty]

Do ur game looks like mine when u are not recording?

Ur fps look a bit worse than mine but i can be wrong tho

[neon narwhal]

Yours is smoother

[mortal jetty]

Something is weird then

[neon narwhal]

Nah both hands and device issue, I'm a bit slow on some inputs and there's songque lag on opener ca
I'll try malding a bit more

[mortal jetty]

[neon narwhal]

Thanks tho, getting more consistent score

[formal wigeon]

damn playing on a post-it note

[tired swallow]

which AstralOP I should get in my current account state

I am like almost there

[formal wigeon]

none

[tired swallow]

none?

[formal wigeon]

well atp most of the damage is already done unfortunately

Aops only make a difference if you chase the top of the leaderboards

and already can afford every valk + weap

[tired swallow]

I see

[tired swallow]

but I still have like 10 pulls left feels like a waste not to replace the default

[formal wigeon]

the default will be better than them in many cases

[tired swallow]

dang

[half hatch]

a gacha AOP won't be better than SS DS in every team

dont underestimate dreamseeker they're pretty good

[tired swallow]

well that sucks, I used to pull Seraphim (or whatever her name is) before

thats why the 10 pull counter

[formal wigeon]

Gacha Aops are specialized to certain ring types and don't do much of anything outside the ones they're made for (and often require SS for their full worth)

[tired swallow]

I see

well that is hella unfortunate for me then

[formal wigeon]

Like Chenxue here is specifically for Grail (new Helia and most likely other future valks) and RoO (Cora/Vita)

[tired swallow]

who I should put in the third slot with Vita and Songque then

[formal wigeon]

For Songque dps you can put Vita and Cora (the A rank one) support

[tired swallow]

thought tbh currently Vita deals like all the damage

[tired swallow]

so the exact same team I used before

I see, thank you

[formal wigeon]

For Vita dps she wants 2 other RoO valks, of which I assume you only have A rank Cora

The options are A rank Cora, HFI with Dkey and S rank Cora

[tired swallow]

yeah my account is not exactly tailor made for any specific team
Vita was my only saving grace

Sparkle was a literal accident
now I am stuck with her at both HSR and HI3rd lmao

[tired swallow]

S rank Cora is like
the upgraded Cora from A to S or the new dragon one

[formal wigeon]

accident is a cope word for gambling addiction

[formal wigeon]

The new one

[tired swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/aventurine-star-rail-i-love-gambling-roulette-gif-15600735931808948001

[tired swallow]

I see

welp thank you for your information

[formal wigeon]

you can use the filter on the bottom left here to see valks by AR or support tags to see who can go with who

[tired swallow]

what filter?

ah

well that's unfortunate lmao

I have like no budget for the dragon Cora rn

and I failed to get HoFi during anniversary, let alone her key

it's been a hot minute since I've played this game
or like almost a year to be precise

also, is Thelema still a viable DPS
are like all Part 2 characters still viable?

[crude cloak]

Depends on your definition of "viable"

Stay in RL assuming you have a couple of them? Probably, yeah

In Nirv older valks appear not as often though

[tired swallow]

I'd say like Agony 3 level of viable

cuz there's no way I can go past that

[crude cloak]

Absolutely then

[tired swallow]

thankies

[drowsy sandal]

what affixes should i put on new coralie?

[neon narwhal]

full atk

[drowsy sandal]

ty

[neon narwhal]

mech or rocket hammer