💁gameplay-help

[foggy vapor]

Or just pray she gets a new suit that brings the bike back

[young nebula]

When Helia SO ends, does Badum and Sus buff continue from the moment you qte during SO?

https://tenor.com/view/breakdance-break-dance-gif-24923144

playing with this team is so fun

[vernal terrace]

NA dead Jovi

[young nebula]

No way 😭 I can't be the only one active in the server

[half hatch]

Yes

[young nebula]

Everyone be avoiding this boss 💀

[vernal terrace]

I'm gonna improve later since I used 2 star Kiaelf

[spiral raven]

just ded server

[young nebula]

Using 2 star Kiaelf in this day and age? Ballsy

[young nebula]

No no no, trust in bad boss 😭

[vernal terrace]

Yeah-
I needed the extra damage but I'll see what DS can do

[young nebula]

DS is always great

[half hatch]

You don't get extra demej with 2* kia elf

[weak drum]

you get extra hope tho

thats like a 500% total dmg increase

[half hatch]

Woah missinfo

[vernal terrace]

[half hatch]

Bean

[weak drum]

!faq ches

[vernal terrace]

Not even better SO demej?

[weak drum]

ds just dunks 2* kianer

[half hatch]

Lemme double check but you shouldn't

[weak drum]

she’s just a cool decor for you at 2*

[vernal terrace]

Now I wish I could have gotten PB over Kiaelf

[half hatch]

Tbf PB also wouldn't have done a lot

You'll get other opportunities to get kia elf ranked

[weak drum]

atleast he’d be able to flex that he has both kiana and pb

[vernal terrace]

[weak drum]

those newbies will be amazed

[half hatch]

~~ little do they know they're extremely niche ~~

[vernal terrace]

||I'm hopeful to get Chenxue||

[half hatch]

Just know that DS is more than enough for RL and the patches after 8.4 will prob be expensive

With CN Ani and CNY being on the horizon prob 8.5 and 8.7

[vernal terrace]

Likely gonna be unlucky anyways for 8.4

[civic harbor]

very embarrassed rn...how does hot on the trail work?

[half hatch]

You choose a team( the game gives you trial valks for that ) you choose buffs and clear the floors. You gain coins if you haven't fully leveled that zone yet the higher the difficulty the more coins you get

[civic harbor]

how to pick buffs?

like is the recommended on each lvl?

[half hatch]

You're forced to pick the buffs at the beginning of the fight

Can't really avoid it

[civic harbor]

yes! I mean like, how to decide which

[half hatch]

Unless you're malding it doesn't really matter tbh, but things like independent multipliers or focusing on different types of buffs is always a rather safe bet

It's more important to understand how the team works tbh

[spiral raven]

if u just want crystals , unga bunga prob still good enough

[half hatch]

Yeah definitely

[civic harbor]

always been bad at this shit 😭 oh well, I'll do some research. appreciate the help :))

[spiral raven]

if u want all the ncc, though i doubt it be useful for u, then u might wanna read up or do the tutorials of the valks given

idk if unga bunga good enough for the ncc

[civic harbor]

I know how to use the characters individually, I'm cl88 and played since 2019.....Just SO bad w team comp

[half hatch]

I'd recommend the in-game tutorial for the leader valk those cover most of the fundamental stuff

[civic harbor]

and never play this event when its around LOL^^

[civic harbor]

okok tysm

[spiral raven]

well captain lvl doesnt mean much, and team comp is kinda tied to characters themselves, in the sense of how you sequence them ig, but w/e

[civic harbor]

nono i know i was trying to explain im trying to get all benefits from the event 😭 (trying to unnoob myself)

[spiral raven]

then so long as u know how to rotate your teams, then should be pretty easy to get all the rewards

[deft sky]

Hii quick question, in the team Lunar vow, Cosmic expression and Schicksal's imperative, each time I try to switch to LV she's not available anymore, making me lose many time to fill her bar... Do i miss something : SIMP Ult -> CE weapon + Ult -> LV (maybe there is a way to switch sooner between CE and LV ?)

[eager smelt]

did u play the tutorial because thats not the right rot

[deft sky]

Okay mb I thought I was doing it right, you're right I forgot the weapon after switch back to SIMP (I forgot to write it too)

Thanks ^^

[eager smelt]

the what
shes not supposed to use weapon

[deft sky]

In the tutorial they do this : SIMP ult -> CE qte + weapon + ult -> SIMP special QTE + weapon + combo -> LV qte + dps rotation

[eager smelt]

its just wake up and combo

[deft sky]

Alright I'll try like this x)

[storm ocean]

Sorry a bit late needed to sleep
https://youtu.be/PHhc98Zu8hM?si=I-xq9FIQozjGFUv5

[vernal terrace]

You're not the only one hating this boss

[brave carbon]

is sus ranged or melee

[crude cloak]

Neither cuz Bleed DMG

[vernal terrace]

^

[brave carbon]

oh yeah

[mortal jetty]

Transition is a bit weird... try to delay sus weapon activ a bit to clear the first HC shield and spam a until she thrown her umbrella + weapon activ for seconds shield

You can keep one helia weapon activ on your first rot in p1 and use it on second rot

[storm ocean]

How do I delay it? Do I do a wa with helili before I start with sushi?

[half hatch]

Evade to extend sushi umbrella

You can fit in 2 evades and if you time second WA right shield is gone

[storm ocean]

Qte with sushi-> evade-> wa?

[half hatch]

2 small other things I wanna point out is that you could have prob timed the opener a bit better and when you switch to sushi in P1 you can spam WA and Ult to cast her ult faster after qte

[half hatch]

Sushi qte Eva Eva WA

[mortal jetty]

Yes

[vernal terrace]

This is actually helpful info for me also

[mortal jetty]

She doesn't need it for second shield

Spam a umbrella weapon activ ult

[half hatch]

I'm just saying 2 evas cuz I needed that in my run but if 1 is enough I should prob also retry it in my run

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/819962254278918165.webp?size=16&animated=true

[mortal jetty]

She is not doing the evade run tho

[storm ocean]

I see

[storm ocean]

Ohh thanks

[storm ocean]

Got it

[mortal jetty]

You can try this if you want...like i said..keep one weapon activ for p1 second run with helia

[mortal jetty]

@round arch

This is what I am doing

[round arch]

Okkii

[boreal eagle]

i think u can ult with badum 2 points earlier im switching fast evade and hold a i get same buff as full animation is awawa tech

this on mobile

interesting transition tho imma copy

[mortal jetty]

I am running on my own with kiana elf

I don't want to look for ref because its too boring 😴

But thx for your initiative

[boreal eagle]

np is just a free +2

[mortal jetty]

You forgot that kiana elf is less sp than songque

If I skip charged attack I will probably don't have enough AR for what I am doing

[lament prairie]

I hate transition

[mortal jetty]

How are you having a hard time in transition?

Transition with dudu run is ez tho xD

[lament prairie]

The fucking pull keeps pulling me to the other side of the wall then pushing me back

So my sushang wa misses

[mortal jetty]

Is that even possible to miss sus WA? xD

When did you end p1?

[lament prairie]

Like 885?

My dmg is abhorrent

[mortal jetty]

885 is a low i think

I can 895-896

[lament prairie]

With dudu?!

[mortal jetty]

Ofc

[lament prairie]

Asaphie how big is your ass to pull that much dmg from it

[mortal jetty]

I got 757

Pc can probably 760+

[mortal jetty]

Dudu qte + ult need to crit

Even if its only a bit

[lament prairie]

Dang

[mortal jetty]

Let me know if you want the record i did ( helia sus dudu)

[half hatch]

now we got crit bald in GoI

[lament prairie]

Damn your stupid ult ely

[mortal jetty]

Is ely better here?

[lament prairie]

Doesn't feel like it

I got same p1 using both and dmg is very similar

P2 elys slow ass anims drag me behind

[mortal jetty]

Yeah dudu is faster here

[lament prairie]

And dudu melee so she can do 3 dmg when ely can do 2 dmg

[mortal jetty]

Yep

Dudu is faster ..she only needs her qte for buff

[lament prairie]

[mortal jetty]

I am waiting your 760+ lyolao

[lament prairie]

I want to

What are you doing in p1 tho cuz I am doing dudu charge > ult > sushang qte wa ult > helia full seq plus an extra basic and ult > dudu qte ult > full helia seq barely kills

Idk where I can cut 10pts out of that

Unless I am pepeg and doing wrong order or smth

[mortal jetty]

When are you ulting with dudu?

[lament prairie]

First or 2nd?

[mortal jetty]

First

[lament prairie]

992

Idk 2nd lol

[mortal jetty]

Okay nice i have too

[lament prairie]

I think I got 993 a couple times as well

[mortal jetty]

You only need one dudu ult in p1 tho

[lament prairie]

How

Need to reset helia cd no?

[mortal jetty]

Yeah low 993 is also doable

[half hatch]

should be able to skip sus WA and just spam WA and Ult to ult faster since you do her WA in transition and iirc you also trigger stellar drain from that

[lament prairie]

Oh yeah lmao

I guess I just did wa out of habit

So thats like +5

[mortal jetty]

[dusty dagger]

Lyo

[lament prairie]

Cay

[crude cloak]

Now kiss

[lament prairie]

[dusty dagger]

I forgot what I was gonna ask

[mortal jetty]

@lament prairie ely (752) vs dudu (
757)
Ely p1 900
Dudu p1 896
Something is weird

probably ely too slow on p2

[lament prairie]

Tyty

[dusty dagger]

Lyo do I give in to the ragebait

[fierce crypt]

If u skip her ult in SO, paws can't get 2 stacks => lost 20% lightning dmg

[mint plover]

only worth if you can kill anyways

when i did extreme parvati in rl had to do that

[mortal jetty]

Yep I know..I don't skip it

[fierce crypt]

Weird

Elybad is real

[mortal jetty]

After her supper qte spam aa until ult is available them ult

[half hatch]

so ely ult instead of PS WA then

[weak drum]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-gif-11816971814746635421

[mortal jetty]

Slow as f

[mortal jetty]

You need sus wa too for sp

[fierce crypt]

Whel

[half hatch]

since when do we need 4/4 SP regen

normally we only do 3 no

[mint plover]

yeah

fws ult ps wa and ult

3

not doing ps wa would be doing 2

[mortal jetty]

Yes

[half hatch]

ely regens SP on entry though

[mint plover]

4 would be fws ca/wa ult ps wa ult

[half hatch]

she does her CA when she goes in in SO

[mortal jetty]

You sure?

[half hatch]

which regens SP

[mortal jetty]

Okay let me try shit

[fierce crypt]

When we have ||ss chenxue||

[mint plover]

with that 4 stacks may even be possible with s+ helia

never seen anyone try

[mortal jetty]

Yeah mango is right

[half hatch]

do 4 stacks even do aynthing

[mortal jetty]

760 doable with ely

[weak drum]

shuddup you torque

[red plank]

thats not even a insult

[weak drum]

it is

you’re just not in the ork community

[red plank]

tf

[solar arrow]

bruh, dorm quest S+ is useless because we can't complete it with just 8/8 character, it requires 10/10 character

[mortal jetty]

@lament prairie sorry I was wrong ely is better... got 760..

763 probably doable

[mint plover]

wdym useless???

[half hatch]

asaphie do you do WA with ely in SO

[red plank]

it gives 40 Xtals tho...

[mint plover]

you not being able to do them doesnt mean they are useless

[mortal jetty]

In SO?

[half hatch]

yeah

[mortal jetty]

No

Spamming aaa until ult is available

[half hatch]

oki

[solar arrow]

Most of the time you can't complete it unless you are very lucky.

[mint plover]

no

"you" no

say "most of the time I cant"

i can always

[dusty dagger]

Incredible insight

[red plank]

you just need to rank up all the a ranks to sss

[half hatch]

getting enough valks is rather a long term project and you can also reroll the requirement once if you don't have enough valks

[solar arrow]

So hard

[mint plover]

not hard

it just takes a while

[solar arrow]

Many useless A rank not have 10/10 point

[weak drum]

most valks are farmable tho

[red plank]

time consuming, but you get there eventually

[weak drum]

you dont need to pull for them, just farm them up to sss

[red plank]

also the valks in er shop have free rank up stamps

[solar arrow]

Don't know why sirin just need SS rank to get 10 point 🗿

[red plank]

it is what it is

[solar arrow]

Oh, HoS only need SS too 🐧

[mint plover]

yeah

only

farmable valks

really old

its not imposibble to get them to sss, just takes a long time

[solar arrow]

I'll stop upgrade Sirin, so watse

SS is enough

[lament prairie]

Wtfff how

[half hatch]

no need to do sus WA in SO

ely regens SP on entry and finisher

[mortal jetty]

I have the run if you want

[lament prairie]

Yes yes

I will try when I get home

Is it similar to your fws run where you do an extra helia qte in SO

But basics on ely to wait for finisher

[mortal jetty]

Yeah

[lament prairie]

Ahhhh that opener is smort

Nice one asaphielao

[mortal jetty]

[mortal jetty]

Make us proud with 765 atleast

Lyolao

[edgy hamlet]

Not sure where to improve except maybe the hitcount transition? Felt kinda slow...

[half hatch]

you can ult earlier on the second wall

take a look at asaphies transition above you

[edgy hamlet]

right if I do that, I would instead be skipping FWS ult and immediately be going to PAWS to SO?

[half hatch]

you can SO while sus is still on field and then qte to helia

SO should trigger her qte

[edgy hamlet]

Not sure if i understand. In asaphies run, they ult early with sus and clean up the rest with helia's qte. So when should I be SO'ing?

[half hatch]

i've prob stil remembered another transition do it as asaphie did

if you scroll up a bit more he also uploaded a fws ps run

[mortal jetty]

I wish I could have those fps

[mint plover]

im with the run, dont worry asa

[mortal jetty]

You are doing less damage than me but we end p1 at the same time

[edgy hamlet]

oh I see I found it lol

[mortal jetty]

You have to see if you have the damage for it

[edgy hamlet]

not sure how that works lmao

[half hatch]

fps diff

[mortal jetty]

Pretty simple..60 fps vs 3kfps

Helia fps killer

[mint plover]

you dont need the full ca at the beggining, just that it hits with the first atk, perfect ult is at 993
you should do the aa dodges backwards for more dmg
perfect p1 is 910
you waited too much at transition, ps qte almost a second earlier
transition 2 is better to do full basic, dodge one of the atks on the bloor ult and later basic SO paws qte
if you press once finisher in so before the combo hits and spam fws qte you can do fastqte

rest is ok

[edgy hamlet]

Should I unlock my fps then?

[mint plover]

you can ezzz get 780

[mint plover]

you already have unlocked fps

cap locked is 120

[mortal jetty]

Why should you do that? You want less score?

[edgy hamlet]

Nah I locked it at 240 because thats what my monitor is

[mint plover]

thats enough actually

im doing 780 with songque ss and at 165

[mortal jetty]

5000fps when

[mortal jetty]

785 where

[edgy hamlet]

ok Ill lower my resolution for 5000 fps

[mortal jetty]

[mint plover]

@edgy hamlet you read this?

[mortal jetty]

This only work with songque tho

Its sucks with kiana elf because no damage in p1 and less sp on AR

[edgy hamlet]

When you say aa dodges backwards, you mean I should evade away from the boss? When i tried doing that helia kept missing her attacks and not having enough SP

[mint plover]

yes

if you evade towards the boss you dont do dmg

[edgy hamlet]

oh

[mint plover]

if its neutral dodge it does

i thought it was reversed actually just yesterday

[mortal jetty]

Try to evade without touching dpad

[mint plover]

thats what neutral dodge is after all

[mortal jetty]

Neutral dodge sounds complex tho imo

[mint plover]

it has no direction

so neutral

forward neutral and backwars

[mortal jetty]

[mint plover]

(actually backwards dodge works also) since neutral does backwards by default

[edgy hamlet]

ah alright. As for transition 2 Im still deciding whether I should ult early or not

[mint plover]

its full basic dodge, dodge one of the atcks at the floor with the second dodge and ult

it still conservers that kinda wa of the dodge

[mortal jetty]

Since you have higher D i think its better for you to do it with sus weapon activ so that you can qteing with helia+ SO

[mint plover]

so its faster imo

reversed should be more dmg tho

entering already in so with the shield almost almost broken

so you dont waste like 2 or 3 points in the qte of helia

like it happened to you yesterday

[mortal jetty]

Wait...but it depends on his damage tho

We don't have same D

[edgy hamlet]

my damage is poo

[mint plover]

yeah but im using songque and killing without wa

he should be able with kiaelf

btw

what rank is kiaelf?

4?

[edgy hamlet]

4*

[mortal jetty]

4*

[mint plover]

okay, great

and helia atlk?

closer to 1500?

[edgy hamlet]

1477

[mortal jetty]

🧱

[edgy hamlet]

dw Ill get the brick soon enough

[mint plover]

btw are you from sea? cause you have the na role

[mint plover]

[mortal jetty]

He is NA super players

[edgy hamlet]

No Im NA

[mint plover]

na and eu have same d iirc

[mortal jetty]

No

545 NA

[edgy hamlet]

It used to be same but changed at some point

[mortal jetty]

2D = 6% more hp

[mint plover]

2d was a lot before, but nowdays its not that much...

[edgy hamlet]

btw is there like a video example

[mortal jetty]

Is it tho.... 543 D 788 vs 545D 783

[mint plover]

forgor to record my 780 run sorry

i think that #video-creations has

[mortal jetty]

5-6 points difference

[mint plover]

i think his biggest problem is the lack of atk

[mortal jetty]

He can not do the run tho

Ss songque vs 4 * kiana are different run

[edgy hamlet]

I think in my current run I dont have very much overflow damage just slow transitions

and slow ult at the start

[mortal jetty]

Let me see again

[mint plover]

he hasnt

already checkd

but his combos do more than mine

[edgy hamlet]

how lol

[mint plover]

dunno ngl

with the hp your combo punch hits i cant kill

i have to go lower

i cant do 910 p1 cause of that

[edgy hamlet]

Hmm I could get more damage if I choose to not do aa dodges

[mint plover]

bat at the cost of A LOT more time

[edgy hamlet]

yeah...

[mint plover]

just do it if you almost cant kill

the neutral dodges should help

[mortal jetty]

Your run looks fine tbh...even your transition is good

I don't really see a way to get more points there...the damage are barely enough

[edgy hamlet]

Couldnt I swap to sushang a bit sooner tho?

[mortal jetty]

In p1?

[edgy hamlet]

On the first hitcount shield

[mint plover]

yeah you can

[mortal jetty]

Actually you can

[mint plover]

told you in the long text

[mortal jetty]

You are overkilling the second shield

[edgy hamlet]

yea was just confirming again

[mortal jetty]

And your p1 was 1 point slow

Maybe 773-775 with perfect run?

[edgy hamlet]

So just ult sooner?

[mint plover]

i think he can get more than 775 but xd

[edgy hamlet]

do i have the hands for it tho

Ill try

[mint plover]

yeah

its really ez

[mortal jetty]

You will need to see how to time it...the best I can see in transition is probably +2 with good timing.. you need to see how much hc left for second shield can be clear with sus ult

[edgy hamlet]

Ok so it's trial and error till I find the right timing

[mortal jetty]

Exactly

[mint plover]

thats what mald is about

[mortal jetty]

This is how dalaos figure out perfect run

[mint plover]

no way around it

just trial and error till you find it

[mortal jetty]

[edgy hamlet]

as a side note I unlocked the fps so it's 500 now

[mint plover]

DAMMMM

what a dalao

[mortal jetty]

[lament prairie]

I will try

[mint plover]

oh right

lyo was fws less

[lament prairie]

I can only cook when its HoV in RL all other content I'm shit

[lament prairie]

proudly

[mint plover]

dont be so harsh on yourself

you won me last time we were together in abyss

[mortal jetty]

Nah don't say that lyolao...you good

[mortal jetty]

Last time i was same bracket with her on huoudou and she destroyed me

801 ( me) vs (804) lyo

She is pro

[lament prairie]

hardware diff

was there some kind of sushang tech to make her do anims faster I forgot

I thought I heard that somewhere

also what gene limit am I supposed to be running

[mint plover]

phi fire and ele i think

[lament prairie]

xd well no fire for me!

[mint plover]

o yeah

[lament prairie]

I'm just not sure if lightning or sp is better

[edgy hamlet]

you spam her WA and ult for faster ult on QTE right?

[half hatch]

Yes

[lament prairie]

some shit like that

[mint plover]

yes

but its really not needed

[lament prairie]

I need to learn it properly cuz rn I barely go straight into ult

[mint plover]

with a tap of ult and wa spam works

but its safer to spam both

[lament prairie]

ok ty

[edgy hamlet]

ok yea I remembered it from last parvati abyss

[mortal jetty]

Lightning ice physical

[lament prairie]

how u hab so much demej

[mortal jetty]

You probably missed something

[lament prairie]

possibly

I will keep trying and pray

[mortal jetty]

I hope you didn't cancel helia 3rd ult too early

[lament prairie]

naw I have needed that dmg too often to be throwing it away

[mortal jetty]

[mortal jetty]

Better transition?

[edgy hamlet]

just better transition for now. My ult at the start is still slow

[mortal jetty]

You will get it with some practice dw

[edgy hamlet]

yea just hoping to get trophies on this one tbh. I know next one is -200

[mortal jetty]

You can mald your life ig this round so that you can sleep next abyss

[edgy hamlet]

exactly

[lament prairie]

oh

I think I forgot to swap in ely

lmfao

still waiting for my game to stop jittering anyway

lmao

[lament prairie]

ok I'm getting there

I keep getting 98 99 sp tho which is hella annoying

[scarlet pebble]

helia annoying

that is my only input

[lament prairie]

a bad workman blames his tools

[boreal eagle]

what happens if i put sus qte off with helia s0 not enough sp to ult?

[lament prairie]

try it and find out

[half hatch]

Yuh you can't ult 3x with sus without qte

[scarlet pebble]

got no PS

[lament prairie]

no qte you're gonna lose the free ult completely

I am infinitely getting 761 fuck

[digital sky]

I remember reading somwhere that dreamseeker has less inside SO dmg and more outside SO dmg, why is that?
It could of been a comparison between 2 aops/elfs but I didn't look into it- i can get the msg where it was said if needed. Or maybe im just being delulu

[lament prairie]

I forgot what it was comparing to lol

[full trench]

it was probably talking about kiaelf, elfs dont have any buffs outside of SO and ds does

[digital sky]

Huh?

[lament prairie]

@mortal jetty

[weak drum]

770 when

[lament prairie]

when I have fws

r u shitting me

1hp

[mint plover]

[lament prairie]

I give up 765 is enough for me

[mint plover]

i feel you

[lament prairie]

BAHAHAHA

P1 sliver is so real

especially when she likes to dodge attacks

[mint plover]

[mortal jetty]

Lyogoat

Well done

[mint plover]

so whale

[lament prairie]

I skipped FWS for that actually

f2p

[mint plover]

no way

[lament prairie]

genuinely

[mint plover]

totally a bad deal

[lament prairie]

great deal actually

this is priceless

[mint plover]

this is what costed

[lament prairie]

still 120 crystals either way

inb4 myriad rank 52 for me

[mortal jetty]

[lament prairie]

doubt I'll stay t50

[mint plover]

[mortal jetty]

Nah top 50 will definitely be 770+

[mint plover]

i dont know if i will t50 myself either

[lament prairie]

those damn whales

[mortal jetty]

[mint plover]

whales?

[fierce crypt]

🐳

[mint plover]

asa im a whale now?

[lament prairie]

damn do I have to reload game for my name to take effect#

[mint plover]

no, you have to do more score

[lament prairie]

u lying

to me

[mortal jetty]

Bruh I didn't say anything

[mint plover]

no i am not

[mint plover]

well, lyo is saying that those whales are making top 50 hard

but im on 780

[lament prairie]

every fws haver is a whale

[mint plover]

that means im a whale?

[lament prairie]

because I don't have her

[mint plover]

[lament prairie]

[mint plover]

and no, lyo i was not lying

names are like teams

till you not do more it doesnt update

[lament prairie]

fuck meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[mint plover]

ajajaja

what a ginius

[lament prairie]

you guys had space for me

[mortal jetty]

[lament prairie]

[mint plover]

[half hatch]

Oh No it's spreading

[mortal jetty]

Asaphie mango when

[half hatch]

When I'm back in prison

[mortal jetty]

Okay in 2027 then

[half hatch]

I'm not that bad

I could promo but no thele

[mortal jetty]

Cooked

[stuck orchid]

Does anyone have a good ref for nirv HoC using PAWS? I normally watch hieu le and dodoco but they both happen to be in RL this cycle

[lament prairie]

asaphielao has everything

what team

obviously paws dps but what supports

[stuck orchid]

Standard paws/ps/badum, preferably with kiaelf instead of songque cuz i don't have songque

[lament prairie]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/430057371641970708/1401144725062418572/Screen_Recording_20250802_074732_Honkai_Impact_3rd.mp4?ex=688f3536&is=688de3b6&hm=eb226c0ed1148bbdaa8005ea34e58f457e5a69cbe3bac314886be33361a9874f&

[stuck orchid]

Thank you!!

[digital sky]

I need badum HoH helia

[eager smelt]

it should just be songque rot but u do badum combo at the start

so around -3 ish

[stuck orchid]

Nice! Good to know

[lament prairie]

why is this pvz event actually hard

how am I failing stage 1-4

repeatedly

this cap on placed units is such a boring mechanic xd

oh it wants me to upgrade them rrrrrr

why am I forced to take mei and kiana when all I do is trash them

bruh

[eager smelt]

why are u trashing mei

[crude cloak]

Check #🎮honkai-chat, you're in for a treat

Gotta backread a bit

[elfin parrot]

i use mei alot because she's cheap and resilient so i can better afford for other units

[thick aspen]

i used seele because she cant die

but unless ur trying to push for the highscores it doesnt really matter what u do

badge caps at wave 7 so its wadever

high waves even with perfect setup it just starts to be rng whether you draw enough bombs or not

[digital sky]

1-4..?

[crude cloak]

She didn't know she could increase the amount of valks you can put on the field

[digital sky]

OHHH

Yeah no you would die with only 4 or 5 characters lol

[thick aspen]

meh if its 4 sushangs im sure they could handle it

[digital sky]

True

[vernal bronze]

isnt fws kiana?

[lament prairie]

Yes

[vernal bronze]

How am I a whale?

[lament prairie]

only whales can afford fws

[vernal bronze]

I haven’t spent since like…at least two years I think

[lament prairie]

I'm not even f2p and I couldn't afford her

smh

[vernal bronze]

Or people who pulled on the wrong valks

[lament prairie]

[vernal bronze]

[vernal bronze]

Aren’t you a regular myriad

[lament prairie]

yes

[lapis raven]

is this THE memesforlearning?

[vernal bronze]

Yep

I know the pfp change makes it confusing

[tranquil jasper]

Help, I don't have RS, Sparkle nor Sleepy Teri. I have everything else. Please what teams do I use for the MA bosses?

[full trench]

assuming you have everyone else vita on chicken ps on rime and hohe on sk

[dark phoenix]

https://youtu.be/a5Yzc1FkY5I?t=25
i dont understand this part, how to make sushang QTE end fast? my sushang QTE keep flashing till the end of PAW combo

oh i got it, PAW ult seq has TF that i can toggle off

[dusty dagger]

Worst lyo take of all time

[spiral raven]

only whales can afford ps

[weak drum]

its opposite day btw

[rare iris]

Whales above me

[spiral raven]

whales everyone but me

[finite barn]

I thought pretty much everyone had fws

[edgy hamlet]

Nah everyone above me is a whale

[elfin parrot]

i guess i'm not a whale then

[cunning gull]

OMG after reading ur message i found a huge pile of money in front of me, thanks!

[red plank]

I skipped dudu so I got her, should've skipped her too smh

[red plank]

[vernal terrace]

Will say this again
Skipped Dudu cause of my obsession of HoRb

[red plank]

🧱

[vernal terrace]

Oooo
Maybe I can get 800+ this way

[vernal terrace]

No

[red plank]

🧱🧱🧱

[vernal terrace]

Saved me getting HoRb from 8.1 spending anyways

[red plank]

[vernal terrace]

HoRb useful in MA anyways

[steady osprey]

no?

actually there was a horb ref on SSS lantern

[pale palm]

in Vita full team,does it matter who activate SO
If I accidently activate it while Vita is not the active valk,do I loose damage\buffs?

[crude cloak]

You won't be losing buffs cuz of that, but you are just wasting time you could potentially spend on Vita

Also the source of SO activation damage is different

[pale palm]

the game sometimes don't react properly on my inputs,it's like it remembers what I input and does it with a delay
For example I switch to someone(or try to)but nothing happens,I try again and when it actually happens,it happens twice

the game finally decides to switch to vita and when I see that I try to activate so but it switches to another character and then activates so

[crude cloak]

Are you certain it's not an issue with your input device?

[pale palm]

no,it usually happens when the bosses use some skills

it happen now on the chicken boss

[crude cloak]

Cuz of hitlag then I assume

Try not to spam the swap button then

[pale palm]

maybe
I am trying to switch but nothing happens so maybe the game did not register my input so I try again
Every second matters in this game

[mint plover]

thats input buffer

its not a bug its a feature

[red plank]

[mint plover]

its made so the imput takes action as soon as it is allowed

!faq buffer

[night parcel]

How Input Buffer Works

Hi, Captain!

[Click here](#💁gameplay-help message) to see Professor Imy's explanation of how inputs work and what input buffer means!

[red plank]

delays can also be fixed by lowering your graphics settings

[pale palm]

yes it's nice but sometimes it works against you

[mint plover]

yeah i know

but 99% of the times it works as a charm

you just dont notice it

input buffer is what makes skills chain so smoothly without delays

if there wasnt input buffer then you would have to press the button exactly as it needs so you dont loose time

its just most noticeable with long animations

[pale palm]

14700hx,rtx4070 playing on ac and the fps never falls bellow 120 if I set the limit to 120
The chicken boss have few skills that slows the game(not the fps)

[red plank]

[mint plover]

||you can get more than 120fps||

even with a 3060 im gettin 165 stable

[red plank]

u can get unlimited fps with third party launchers like collapse ot better HI3

[mint plover]

even without them tho

[pale palm]

I'm fine at 90,the game looks smooth enough

[mint plover]

spageti code

game works better at high fps

there are some runs that are impossible without 500fps

[red plank]

what

[mint plover]

yeah

[red plank]

which one

[mint plover]

when fgo was a new boss there were two caps

poors cap and 500fps cap

[red plank]

fgo??

[mint plover]

fake god otto

[red plank]

oh

kek

[spiral raven]

a more recent one is ma quantum pig where if u have high consistent 144+ fps then there's a rot with lv where you can get ulti off like a frame before his quantum thing come back and kill him

[red plank]

bruh

[spiral raven]

actually i forgot if it was pig or vita tho, it was either one

[red plank]

thats so unfair (I have integrated graphics )

[spiral raven]

not like u got lv

[red plank]

I have her S2

[spiral raven]

oh do u also have sci and eden full built

[red plank]

but her supp suck

[mint plover]

well 144 is something achievable for a big part of the playerbase... 500fps....

not

[spiral raven]

ik, but its also where fps matters, but also icant get 144+

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/623406914193326091.webp?size=48&name=TeriMad

[red plank]

I mean most prebuilts come with some little gpu now ig

[mint plover]

yeah

[red plank]

I need a new PC

[mint plover]

[red plank]

what gpu can a 4th gen i5 support that I can afford?

DDR3 ram btw

[spiral raven]

new motherboard

[red plank]

I know

[red plank]

its pre built dell optiplex

[spiral raven]

idk, never got into pre built, save more money (+ extra frustation and time wasted)

the warranty most pre built offer is nice but idk if i need it

[red plank]

I mean built PCs are always better

the problem is I cant shop online for this stuff cause shipping prices and shit

there is a like a tech mall here but its FAR away

well in any case I need the money for a pc first

[obtuse lintel]

What do you guys recommend to get? My HoO is SS (with 10 extra fragments), and HoH is S2 (with 4 extra fragments)

I can get those 3 chips, and for HoH i can buy 2 more from supply shop

[mint plover]

nothing

save for later patches

[obtuse lintel]

[mint plover]

they dont expire any longer

[obtuse lintel]

I know

But, i mean, what can we get better than this?

[mint plover]

its not like the old bp that every 4 patches they get deleted, just save for something you actually know you want/need

[obtuse lintel]

Theyre kot gonna put there meta characters

[mint plover]

wdym? theres sena and luna

and both are in the meta

[obtuse lintel]

Meta each 2 months

[half hatch]

The missing dkeys

[mint plover]

better than those that wont even get one

[mint plover]

well, yeah i was suposing that he already got the dkeys

[obtuse lintel]

Not like they're getting a lot but

[half hatch]

Otherwise some random Stigmata/weapon/rank ups may be useful for you at some point so there's really no real rush to spend them

[obtuse lintel]

[mint plover]

and?

is there any rush to spend them?

just save them up

[obtuse lintel]

No, im just asking

[mint plover]

well, then thats the answer

[mint plover]

.

[obtuse lintel]

And in later patches: save for later patches

[mint plover]

in this game theres one mentality that predomines abover anything, better have it than not

[mint plover]

obviusly

till the point where you actually need them

and you will thank having them

[obtuse lintel]

And that will happen...?

[mint plover]

if i knew i would've already won lottery

[obtuse lintel]

Fair

[mint plover]

i have to make a faq about this kind of thing

theres already one about pity

!faq lower pity

[night parcel]

No FAQ for 'lower pity' found.

[mint plover]

dont know how it was named

sprinkle

[crude cloak]

Smh why is there no Sparkler

Or Sprinkler

[dusky mantle]

Oh wow

Jwu

Abyss time

[neon narwhal]

!faq pork

[night parcel]

Sparkle HonkaiStarRail

Battlesuits and Tutorials

• S-Rank: Thousand-Faced Maestro: Cameo!

Outfits

• Thousand-Faced Maestro: Cameo!: Ficticious Game

Wallpapers

• Thousand-Faced Maestro: Cameo!

[edgy hamlet]

pork???

[dusky mantle]

Can
Paws hohe fws get 756 rl

[neon narwhal]

🍃

[edgy hamlet]

[spiral raven]

probs

736 i got on an acc with 1340atk helia

[mint plover]

You can search by promt parts, dont need full

!faq af

[night parcel]

Everything you need to know about Affixes

Hello, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the in-depth Affixing guide!

Overall, you should only affix Best-in-Slot Stigmata and generally aim to get as much Atk as possible on your DPS Valkyries first. Ensure that the Battlesuit/Weapon Type matches what the Affix line demands otherwise the Atk will not apply.

Remember only Physical Damage can crit, and "crit ratios" do not apply to Honkai Impact 3rd.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral raven]

spork, pork

[spiral raven]

how about ork

[edgy hamlet]

I see it now

[spiral raven]

or rk

[neon narwhal]

overlaps with others

so brings up the choose faq option list

[spiral raven]

what options overlap with ork

[spiral raven]

[plucky gust]

can someone help me find SSS rimestar w/ trio? i don't have sparkle so yea.

[half hatch]

Do you have PS by chance ?

[spiral raven]

ranks?

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV12gm9YQE4X?vd_source=0c55e9eeea7f01cd7949940b979fafe9&p=14&spm_id_from=333.788.videopod.episodes

[half hatch]

Oh it's w/

[spiral raven]

s2 hofi

if u lack dmg, can delay bronya ult into kiana p2

but i rmb u have more dmg so u prob fine

[plucky gust]

omg nvm. i need a non-sparkle rimestar . . . i forgot i locked HoFi on sprout because i put vita there. . .

[spiral raven]

taht is nonsparkle, hofi is not sparkle but ok

[spiral raven]

so what did u use? for vita

sounds like u locked it wrong

[plucky gust]

the usual vita, coralie, hofi. the old sprout of wishing answer.

[spiral raven]

but u have dudu badum and songque right, u locked it wrong then

oh well, u have badum helia songque 47888

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV12gm9YQE4X?vd_source=0c55e9eeea7f01cd7949940b979fafe9&spm_id_from=333.788.videopod.episodes&p=6

[dusky mantle]

SAFE

JUST BARELY MADE IT

[plucky gust]

yea. i didn't research it well

[spiral raven]

algs

[dusky mantle]

I was able to finalize the boss stage just before abyss closed

[spiral raven]

47888 = 39906 btw

so do that instead ig

normally badum and songque locked for sprout

[dusty dagger]

Handel

[plucky gust]

ever since sparkle getting more and more usage in EX MA, my motivation to do EX MA runs go down so yea.

[spiral raven]

yea, rough

missing any loa just sucks tho

[plucky gust]

ngl i should've skipped eepy teri. . . such a bait unit. . . ugh

[spiral raven]

u should still be good enough for 0.2 tho

[plucky gust]

nah. im fine with 2%. too old enough for 0.2

[digital sky]

Its 12% tdm really more potent than 15% edt in helia badum hoh...

[queen siren]

guys when doing helias affixes, does crossbow affix count or is there actually rapid fire crossbow affix?

[spiral raven]

its shared with pistol/lance so cant go wrong with that

[spiral raven]

where r these numbers from

[digital sky]

Dreamseeker, Songqueop

Passive skills

[spiral raven]

so u asking songque or ds, prob songque, u can try both and see how it goes

[digital sky]

I tried both and dreamseeker scored higher ...

[spiral raven]

then stick with ds

[digital sky]

But like is tdm really more potent then edt?

[spiral raven]

in general edt wins

its more scarce than others

but idk how u doing it, but u ran both and ds better then stick with it

[digital sky]

Then how come im scoring higher

[quasi pier]

what's the score

[digital sky]

746

With dreamseeker

And like 72X with songqueop

[spiral raven]

is taht rl or nirv

[quasi pier]

if rl, that's kinda low

i have 771 with the same team

[digital sky]

Rl

[spiral raven]

no trio? trio u can just 800 with no effort prob given ur d

[digital sky]

No
I dont have trio

[spiral raven]

copy w/e jahjab doing then or look for ref

[digital sky]

Uhm
Ref? :D

[digital sky]

Thats what i was planning on doing

I mean im in 2nd so far..

[quasi pier]

I'm using 4 star kia elf tho

[digital sky]

3*

Im 6 frags away from

[spiral raven]

5% tdm difference, so its fine

[digital sky]

4* kiana elf

[spiral raven]

wont make a 50 point diff

[digital sky]

Do you kill in 1 rot phase 1?

[spiral raven]

ur gonna have 2 record the two runs and put them side by side to make sure that yes u are doing the same thing lol

[digital sky]

Thats sounds fun on mobile

[quasi pier]

almost, 1 rot with a little bit of hp left over

[formal wigeon]

player sided margin of error

[digital sky]

I have like 1.6 bars left..

[digital sky]

Oh, so im doing something wrong?

Makes sense tbh.

[spiral raven]

well intuitively, edt wins, but we cant be sure unless u do go and record urself

[craggy ivy]

Wait does trio win over helibad no ps for rl

I'm stuck 740 because of trans phase hitcount wall

[prisma olive]

Is there a real difference between no astral ring and astral ring playstyles in ER?

[spiral raven]

i do not know tbf, i never tried cuz i had no ps, i just went trio then slept

for transition, u unlock 3 weaps on bronya and its pretty fast

[craggy ivy]

What score u got and what trio ranks

[spiral raven]

s0+1 hofi ss1 hoo ss hotr 796

can 800+

[craggy ivy]

Damn should've trio'd

[spiral raven]

u kill p1 by 945 then u finish transition at like 905?

pretty fast

[crude cloak]

Depends on the valk

[spiral raven]

both valid

[crude cloak]

For example, on A-rank Helia the difference is massive

(SO is better)

But both can easily clear, yes

[prisma olive]

So it really depends on how I play then?

[spiral raven]

the buffs/weather may favor one or the other

[crude cloak]

There's not much skill expression in ER if you meant that

Just pick the build you like more

[crude cloak]

But on Vita the difference is close to 0

[prisma olive]

Shoutout to variable arms making it easier for those with no BiS weapons

[spiral raven]

in geenral the shilled valk wont have much difficulties even without weap

i rmb when i did hotr er when she first came out wtihout sig equipped and was still pretty fast

[prisma olive]

So just get lucky with the signets then?

[spiral raven]

u dont need to be very lucky, just know what to look for /adapt

[crude cloak]

If you're trying to get a clear time record yes
Otherwise just even remotely following a guide in the pins is enough

Tbh even following the guide is not mandatory at all

[spiral raven]

just make sure u pick stuff that does stuff

wow that sounds useless

but like if ur current playstyle is ult spam no weap for example, then dont pick ones that buff weap

[prisma olive]

The variable arms playstyle is kinda funny

[spiral raven]

oh but do read

like badum has one where u spam jump and ult, but actually those jump atks count as weap (written in the signet), so u can get weap buffs

[formal wigeon]

HTR should take care of it relatively quickly

so ye there's a bunch of points saved there

[spiral raven]

unlock 3 weap and then first hitcount is just one special + eva + a few more atks

second hitcount is just weap + ult

[prisma olive]

Vita's best teammates are still Coralie and HoF Kiana?

[quasi pier]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfLgFJbw_4w

[spiral raven]

right now yea? there isnt a 4th roo is there unless u mean next patch

[prisma olive]

How do you play Helia alter as support?

[digital sky]

I have no dmg

[mortal jetty]

Only in LOA for now

[steady osprey]

paws can supp LoA. i use qte + ult then switch

[prisma olive]

So just hit ult once?

[mortal jetty]

Super qte+ult in SO

[steady osprey]

not worth farming SP for ult2 and ult3. maybe u can WA and ult2.
and yeah in SO u straightly have combo and finisher ready

[prisma olive]

SO?

[digital sky]

How much atk does ur helia have

I have 1401

[steady osprey]

Stellar Outburst

[prisma olive]

So in normal rotation is just fill SP and then spam ult

[quasi pier]

1472

[digital sky]

Huh

Yk i think that might cause a gap.

[steady osprey]

u do not farm SP. after qte u have enough for 1 ult. then switch

[thick aspen]

remember to tap both evade and ult for faster

[prisma olive]

ok

[digital sky]

Thanks for trying 😞

[mortal jetty]

This is only for 1 point

[thick aspen]

free point

press button receive point

why not press

[steady osprey]

yeah if only i know this sooner. 4th place with same score

[spiral raven]

what is this

[fierce crypt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPFjlLSV2wE

[spiral raven]

op

[vagrant fractal]

I call it...dedskip

[dusty dagger]

Why ded

[lapis raven]

dead without it

[vagrant fractal]

when I don't have a witty response, I call it...the cayskip

[red plank]

[rare iris]

Scayp

[cunning gull]

sorry for ping but is it this one? bc i read the comment that hieu le left and didnt know which skill is it

[rare iris]

It should have a toggle right next to it when viewing the skill tree

[cunning gull]

yeah this one have a toggle

[rare iris]

Turn that bad boi off

[hoary pebble]

on average how many rolls do we need for a p2 valkyrie and her weapons?

[crude cloak]

~78

But ofc it's better to have more than that

!faq rates

[night parcel]

The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

• Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k ) vs 78 pulls (22k )
• Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k )
• Worst Case:
• Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k ) vs 150 pulls (42k )

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[hoary pebble]

wow...

[steady osprey]

u ever heard "rate up is a lie"?

[quasi pier]

all still depends on luck

your fate is in ai chan's hands

[hoary pebble]

unfortunately

i want to say something about my luck but that would probably count as salt

[formal wigeon]

that does not apply at all to hi3 gacha tho

since there's only 1 thing per banner

[mint plover]

yeah but at the cost of dmg

[rare iris]

W I D E

[mint plover]

i hated the old pitys

so hard to get full valks

[weak drum]

and people still want it back

[rare iris]

Those people who prefers old pity are whales

[whole sun]

for senadina, is the regular red star thunderbolt or the breaking dawn one better for her

[rigid cedar]

@vocal wadi here's one of my better attempts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LVZog3V3zI

[rare iris]

New pity is terrible for them hence the amount of 9S players from p1 either already quit or just SS players now, look at Akayuki

[weak drum]

there’s also clueless casual players who’s deadset on believing that p1 gacha was wayy better than p2

[whole sun]

or wait is breaking dawn the pri arm version

[weak drum]

it is

[rigid cedar]

i really believe those were mostly just lucky back then

[weak drum]

and a valk’s signature pri arm weaps are always better for her

[whole sun]

is the sig weapon basically always the best weapon for a valk or are there exceptions

[rigid cedar]

a divine key which usually replaces the signature weapon

[weak drum]

there are exceptions if the valk is a fossilized dinosaur

[weak drum]

oh yeah this too

[whole sun]

so the part 2 valks always want their sig weapons

[rigid cedar]

as of now, yes

[weak drum]

they basically cant live without it

[rigid cedar]

hofi and hoh are the only ones who want dks

because that makes them part 2 valks

[weak drum]

you just lose out on too much dmg and utility without weap

[whole sun]

forgot i had the starter supply so i was able to get senadina which is cool

got her on like 20 pity so thought i might as well pull for her weapon

[weak drum]

also p2 stigs are craftable so you can just ignore it when you get weap

[weak drum]

shouldve have not pulled for her but congrats on being lucky

[whole sun]

yeah granted i got her full stig set while pulling for her weapon so thats nice

[rigid cedar]

back then when weapons became more streamlined (similar to how it is now but with a bit of lenience) divine keys revived older valkyries from the dead

[whole sun]

nah i wanted her so

[weak drum]

wait 20 pity as in 20 pulls or 20 til guaranteed

[whole sun]

20 pulls

[weak drum]

oh cool

[weak drum]

oh you prob dont care much abt the game’s meta?