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[cyan barn]

Because they aren't wolves

[woeful warren]

so bandit/zombie/sect/insti shouldn’t be solo because they are not playing alone?

[floral flame]

But not wws

Wwf doesn't count for ww condition until turned

[cyan barn]

I think it counts as half...

Idk if ir's intentional, but it defidently feels intentional

[floral flame]

It is intentional since Cursed doesn't count for wws either until turned

[woeful warren]

it would be pointless honestly to make it not, really

it would just become cursed with the ability to reveal himself to someone

[floral flame]

All Cursed, Werewolf Fan and Grave Robber share this same trait : They all count for village win condition at the beginning of the game

Regardless to the purpose of the role

[cyan barn]

Zombie = zombie

Sect leader > Sect member (so only sl is needed to win)

Recruits > insti (since recruits are the objective)

And wwf/sorc < ww (since werewolves are the X-factor)

[cyan barn]

Well, no-
Erm...

They all don't count against village

Because fool also shares this trait

Hh as well

-_-

Still

[floral flame]

I didn't even said they count against it

[woeful warren]

So you are saying to make = +

[cyan barn]

I-
...
Sure

[cyan barn]

It's a lot more nuanced than that

and it'd be more like = + anyways

[floral flame]

As an Instigator, if the Instigator stays alive alone too, the three win

Doesn't it?

[cyan barn]

But it's not really a change to the role, in terms of balance

It would just ensure that wwf isn't just a better traitor

[cyan barn]

Yes, but it's solely as a contingency since it could lose d1 otherwise

N1 for that matter

[floral flame]

RVs can lose N1 too

[brazen parrot]

Hello! I will reply your feedback! ^^

1. See who's attacked and other things

Then if night watchman can see all protections and all attacks, what's the point of see what players are protected?
Also then night watchman can protect successfully twice if they can. It's pretty similar to what astronomer do too

2. And wouldn't it be too specific for a nwm buff? Also wouldn't nwm counter perfectly werewolf berserk? Is it what you want?

3. I don't think it wouldn't be a good idea. Nwm would became in a some kind of bodyguard who can't protect itself

I think the point of be night watchman is sacrifice protection for information on who's protected. Play as night watchman means you need think more about what player will be attacked and if is worth use your ability on they. Isn't how advanced roles should work?

Also, why do you think nwm needs a buff?

Hi! And why do you think it's necessary increase the amount of role cards you can get? How many roses do you have to pay to get a role card?

Hi! I don't think give gems in the rose wheel would be a good idea

About give role cards, there's already a feedback suggesting change the lootbox for a role card. I think it's more viable than your suggestion since there're four avatars you can get in the rose wheel, taking too much time be able to spin for a role card, aren't you agree?
Link of the feedback:
#feedback-devs message

About gold instead of a chest, I can give it a post, but first I want to know your thoughts about the previous I said

Thanks for your suggestions!

[floral heath]

should count towards win condition because its an advancement of who also counts to the win condition
even though its advanced doesn't count towards village win condition as it isn't village. It doesn't count towards win condition as well while it is unturned unless it is the last player alive

[cyan barn]

I never said it shoukd count towards village

But it shouldn't count at all towards ww win con

3 ww 3 vill & 1 wwf should be have the same as 3 ww 3 vill & 1 fool, which should also behave the same as 3 ww & 4 vill:

[floral heath]

it isn't thats the thing

in that scenario u said

3 ww vs 3 vill vs 1 wwf

wwf counts as nothing

[cyan barn]

You said yourself it counts as .5 ww

Did u not?

[floral heath]

so its actually 3v3

ww win

or if you want to be technical

3.5v3

[cyan barn]

Makes 0 sense

When fool v 3 ww v 3 vill isn't a wolf win

[floral heath]

because if wwf is last alive

its .5v0

[cyan barn]

It should count as 1 living player and 0 werewolves

Smh

[floral heath]

thats cuz fool has a hidden vill win con attached to it maybe

[cyan barn]

Or, and hear me out:

[floral heath]

it doesn't win as vill but it counts as village when the game checks living players

[cyan barn]

Nobody counts towards village won con, there are just players that count against it

It makes more sense than hh/fool/anar being counted as vill 🤷🏽‍♂️

[floral heath]

I'm fine with a suggestion like shouldn't count to village win condition as well

[cyan barn]

I feel like this has gotten to a point where onky a dev can viably answer

Because it's literally a question of how the solos are coded

[floral heath]

i guess so

[cyan barn]

It would logically make more sense if it's just a single tick that basically checking if a player has to die for vill to win

And for some reason, wwf has a half-yes-half-no output

[brazen parrot]

Hi! I will give it a post in #feedback-devs. Thanks for your suggestion!

Hi! I understand your point, however, I don't think it's the purpose of the role icon skins. Thanks for your feedback anyway!

[minor scarab]

where do you go to send the links for the social rewards

[brazen parrot]

So swap the item for a 200 would be the solution, right? 😄
I will give it a post. Thanks for your feedback!

[autumn tangle]

exactly

[brazen parrot]

Hi! It's already fixed. Sorry for the late reply "^^
Thanks for your support anyway! 😄

Hi! Where's the assassins archievement?

Hi! Sounds a good idea. I will post it in #feedback-devs. Thanks for your suggestion!

Hello! You can suggest new crazy game modes sending a Dm to @meager gyro
Thanks for your support! 😄

[faint light]

heya there don't know if it was a bug or not (or even intentional or not)

not on my profile tho

[brazen parrot]

How odd... I'm unsure if it's intentional or not. I will ask to devs.
Thanks for letting me know!

[faint light]

anytime and thanks to ask to dev ^^

[hearty cosmos]

Vio should be rl advanced as it is currently worse than aura as it only works when someone gets lynched

As an accompanying investigative like Sherrif or rl it would work well

[hushed folio]

Hi, i had some difficulty understanding why you thought gems were a bad idea but role cards were a good one. Either option would appear after you have gotten all the avatar items in the rose wheel. And gold would be good too, i dont really care what is in that spot, other than a loot box. There is already a lootbox spot, and when the avatar items are finished, having two loot box means having 25% chance of getting one.

[shut burrow]

Witch should be rsv because both forger and astro are kinda broken to be rrv

[cyan barn]

Those roles are fundementally different

I agree with vio being criminally weak, but it's fundementally closest to aura seer

[hearty cosmos]

vio should maybe be new base although i dont know what the advanced would be

[cyan barn]

I don't agree

it (and gambler) have the same checking function as aura...

Vio being the base role for the three roles instead of aura might work tho

since vio has a death-connection to ss, it's ability functions most like aura's, and it team checks like gb

[hearty cosmos]

it does fit it with those roles

but it is still criminally weak

[unkempt saddle]

I think because ppl prefer doc over nwm but if thats the reason why advanced role exist then i understand your point

[cyan barn]

I couldn't agree more really

I think vio's super weak, with aura being the 2nd weakest, followed by ss and gb (which is just better det, let's be real)

[hearty cosmos]

i think its vio followed by ss then aura and gb

[cyan barn]

...
By that logic, shouldn't bh be an advanced role?

[cyan barn]

ss is easily beter than aura /:

but that's besides the point

[hearty cosmos]

yeah vio is still widely considered worse than aura

ss is contested on both sides

[cyan barn]

I think consensus is that ss≈det in ranked

but it's different for casual gameplay

[hearty cosmos]

yeah but vio still needs some kind of buff

[cyan barn]

yea...

i think it's just...
fundementally flawwed?
like nwm

[hearty cosmos]

agreed

nwm is also considered worse doc by a lot of ppl

[cyan barn]

worse?

[hearty cosmos]

just because of the protection

[cyan barn]

it can force all prot claims to prove themselves

[hearty cosmos]

yes but if its nwm by itself and rrv like in sandbox it isnt good at all

[cyan barn]

meaning that when nwm is in game, ww have a lot less options

[hearty cosmos]

seers also cant always be protected

and nwm has to reveal themselves to give that info

which usually results in death\

[cyan barn]

okay, but you could always just say "ALL PROTECTORS, SAY WHO YOU PROTECTED LAST NIGHT" and then you'd not only know who is real/fake, but also perfectly coordinate rrv prot from d1

it's like having seer (with a shield) replace doc

[hearty cosmos]

Hmm I would say it is situational

[cyan barn]

it's info is broken, with bad protection

[cyan barn]

i mean
if i were nwm i'd pretty much just do this every d1

[hearty cosmos]

Then u die

[cyan barn]

not if i know there's rrv prot

🥱

[hearty cosmos]

Wws kill u because rrv prot go on seers usually

Or seers might die

[cyan barn]

again:

coordinate properly

if i'm nwm and i see 4/9 protected, and 9/10 claim tg the next day

i just say 9 on me while i protect seer

[hearty cosmos]

But your protections are finite

[cyan barn]

doesn't matter

it's a broken informer, nerfed solely by it's placement in a role list

and if you know there's rrv prot then gg

[hearty cosmos]

Well I agree if it wouldn't replace a protector then it would be good

But I still think that the finite protections are a downside

[cyan barn]

and because of rrvs, that means that 9 times of 10 it should just be forcing all protectors to claim d1

which basically means wolves are SOL for claims

unless they wanna all fake informers

[hearty cosmos]

And it also means that wws know who to target

[cyan barn]

which
it's sandbox
it's rare enough seeing ONE wolf fake informer

[cyan barn]

doesn't matter

we both agree it's a bad protector anyways

[hearty cosmos]

Ok

[cyan barn]

plus, it'sjob is basically done on d1

[hearty cosmos]

Yeah it's job is done very quickly

[cyan barn]

yea

[hearty cosmos]

Any ideas for vio buff?

[cyan barn]

nope lmao

[cyan barn]

TL;DR nwm should be RSV

[hearty cosmos]

Yeah i dont know how it would be buffed without just becoming another role

[cyan barn]

i mean-
it's so fundementally broken it's basically stronger than seer in the hands of a good player in a compitent lobby

[cyan barn]

there are a few common aura rep. ideas I've seen (check number of interactions, let someone else check for you, etc.)
and this just wasn't good in my opinion

/:

@floral heath have you tried this playstyle yet?

if so, what's your 5 cents on this?

(the nwm thing)

[mental shadow]

I think sound of bell-ringer should be the sound of bell in real life (Example like "leng keng" "leng keng" of bell of people who buy ice cream near my school )not be sound of Lm each mark someone.

[shut burrow]

Lol

But yes

[strong willow]

Remove 11th position and add 0th position.

The 11 position is the last one to get filled because nobody likes it. Also it has the most probability of being killed and checked by ww and informants, so it has a lot of disadvantages of getting that position.

In order to maintain the same number of players, I propose adding a new “0th” position right before the first. Why? Because arreys starts at index 0 and I think it will be very helpfully to the devs

[cyan barn]

it's a 4x4 grid

odds are, the "issue" with the slot has more to do with it's physical position rather than the number

[blissful sundial]

This is really redundant, it’s just a 4x4 grid. You removing that position doesn’t change anything

[hoary pagoda]

Adding a zero wouldn’t get rid of 11 anyway, it’d just get rid of 16

[strong willow]

But you can jump it, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16

[hearty cosmos]

this argument is redundant

like it doesnt matter if ur 11 or not

[strong willow]

Mm, I see.

I just think that 11 gets focus a lot on first night, and I was thinking that for example in some hoteles they remove room “666” and skip over them. So maybe something like this would work.

But yeah, I get the argument that is more about the physical position rather than the number

[kindred glade]

6 7 10 11 are In the middle so I think that's why they get attacked/checked the most

[native yarrow]

If someone is holding a phone with their right hand 11 is closest to their thumb

[brazen parrot]

Hello! I will give it a post. Thanks for your feedback!

[brazen parrot]

Hello again! I can give it a post and let the community vote for keep it or delete it. Do you want that? 😄

[faint light]

Yesss of course you can ^*

[old python]

I feel that flagger should have a slight buff regarding frenzy.

For beast hunter and trapper, the weakest wolf still dies, and the beast hunter dies too. I think for flagger, the redirect should work with the flagger dying as well, rather than the frenzy purely killing the protected player and the flagger.

[radiant wedge]

heroes who flee should be punished more harshly compared to regular players. fleeing as a hero defeats the purpose of being a hero in the first place. a lot of heroes flee because the role they hero for is not what they like which was why the original player flee in the first place. they would be no different then the ppl they replace

[shut burrow]

Flagger is already much better then bh and trapper no need for a buff imo

[untold wagon]

Flagger isnt better than trapper in my opinion they are equal if played well but yes i get what you mean

[old python]

its a small one

for consistency's sake

[quaint bramble]

sounds reasonable but they also sometimes flee because of excessive targeting of hero joiners
and that's a much bigger problem overall

[unkempt saddle]

Make br able to select player n1 since if one of them die the role will only revealed to self, unlike lm who reveal to everyone

[cyan barn]

hot take but I don't think the flagger should die

[hushed rover]

Hello

[cyan barn]

if it's re-directing, not trying to stop an attack

[hushed rover]

Oynamak isteyen var mi

[cyan barn]

english here pls

[hushed rover]

No English

I'm turkish

[cyan barn]

yes but it's an english server

=_=

[old python]

its for consistency's sake

[cyan barn]

i mean yea but still

i think it's fine but in a perfect world, it wouldn't be the case

(in a perfect world, this would be a doc advanced & you wouldn't be able to kill wolves with the wolves' attack. And there wouldn't be a notification for saving)

that reminds me

[jade pike]

@tranquil mortar in #dev-vote why are you asking 3 choice questions and giving us two choices?

[tranquil mortar]

Added them, thanks

[cyan barn]

huh?

[jade pike]

We can't, not in vote.

[modern flame]

there should be a channel that I can suggest crazy game's ideas. Or combine role ideas and crazy game ideas into a bigger channel

reason: direct message lisa, in my opinion, is not enough. There isn't any channel for me to share crazy game ideas in the server. The thing i need/want is feedbacks from many people. so we can like, discuss about it together in the channel

[cyan barn]

INSTIGATOR SHOULD WIN IF IT'S ONE OF THE LAST TWO PLAYERS ALIVE AGAINST A VILLAGER OR SOLO VOTER

The reason for this is that instigator doesn't always have a chance to win, since recruits can die n1, unlike lovers. In addition, there isn't a guarantee that there's a junior/avenger/bandit in game, which is the only way to win at that point.

this would secure that winning is possible until the end of the game

[mint cloak]

Anarchists misslynches needs to be reduced to 2 cause 3 isn't realy a thing you can achieve in normal rounds and 2 would be more in this rv sheme + you need to get votet out to win after you got the 2 sucessfull misslynches

[shell cobalt]

the problem, 2 is op and 3 is weak. ww will have harder to win if they fake as evil like aura/ss claim or activate shadow. For the perfect balance, Anarchist should count as villager/fool when 2 villagers got lynched. So village will think about it before trying to kill anarchist by vote.

[wise birch]

It’s gonna have to be changed to 2.5 I fear

[mint cloak]

then 2 misslynches and anarchist votet out to win

[cyan barn]

I think it should still be 3 with a buff

[mint cloak]

3 is to weak and not realy achievable in rounds with good people

[cyan barn]

2 is too strong

and by a lot more

[cyan barn]

no

as a matter of fact, it's pretty much only possible in a lobby of compitent players

[mint cloak]

you need yourself lynched too as i wrote down there

[cyan barn]

as i was saying

[shell cobalt]

yes, once 2 villagers lynched, voting another villager or anarchist will lead to a anarchist win

[cyan barn]

that's... a super weak buff

[wise birch]

It’s a fortune teller situation I fear

any buff or nerf breaks the role

[cyan barn]

it should be that town friendly fire (shooting bh as jailor, etc) counts towards the role

[narrow blade]

what was the fortune teller

[cyan barn]

i would say that's more NWM than anarchist tbh

[cyan barn]

*is

and basically it's an RSV paci

[mint cloak]

it's still a random voting so no need to make real big buffs

[cyan barn]

still though, getting 3 mislynches isn't very practical, it should have something else contributing to that... either better voting power, or different ways to go towards your win con, etc

if it becomes 2, it's going to need a nerf to go along with it

@mint cloak for example...

[mint cloak]

to strong buffs

[cyan barn]

it's two buff/re-work ideas

not just one idea

[mint cloak]

still to strong for a rv

[cyan barn]

not... really?

I mean with either of these buffs, it becomes a lot more fair in the hands of a completely compitent (or incompitent) lobby

[shut burrow]

Imo it should be 3 villagers killed by village abilities or voting

[kindred glade]

Honestly? I don't think anarchist will be released

[wise birch]

ur so real for that

Because the convo above proves that it’s gonna be stuck in a buff/nerf limbo if it does get added

[floral heath]

Same view. Haven’t tried such an extreme approach but you explained it correctly. Broken main ability while at the same time not even being a protector at all replacing a protector

I don’t agree should be and nobody should accept current state to be acceptable. Imo needs a rework with its watching ability limited to maybe 1 person every night and giving it better protection capabilities so that it actually makes sense replacing a protector like

[floral heath]

I’ll also just explain a few more things here as well so its on topic:

is the only “balanced” advanced technically speaking. is quite strong and is quite weak in comparison. But thats not to say these roles are bad. Same with and tbh being an advanced role is underwhelming as as a protector right now is too strong

➡️
was my original suggestion making a base role as it should’ve been and moving these two other roles who have questionable base roles onto this new card because they all share the characteristic of being secondary informers, not consistently able to give info since the first day

in its current state will always be slightly op no matter what base role you put it in. it should not suffer a fate of being turned into a advanced but instead should be nerfed slightly so it fits in as an advanced

as a while it does need buffs, the ones suggested here don’t make sense as basically the problems will always come down to something like suddenly siding with village which is problem, win if lynched which makes it a worse or adding unnecessary abilities to it. Thats why I’m agreeing that villagers shooting themselves should also count to the win condition of 3 incase 2 mis lynches is too strong. It also discourages random killing which is a side effect of this buff too

[runic dragon]

please make it so that blocking people affects your matchmaking. i dont want to be unblocking people every time so i can properly play the game. i have blocked people for a reason and i dont want to see them speaking again.

[jade pike]

This is something that they do need to implement.

[misty stratus]

Make it possible to block people outside of games

[brazen parrot]

Why? The difference between bh and their advanced counterpart is beast hunter is simpler to play (put trap and wait for the next night to make it actives itself) than Trapper (you have to think when the traps will be actived) and Flagger (you can kill villagers with your redirects, also you can't know if the player you are protecting will be attacked or not)

[outer comet]

Not sure if it’s still possible to get gr as rrv, or if it simply haven’t been removed on the rrv list in my language..

But I really think it shouldn’t be possible to get gr as an rrv.. because;

1. Gr is advanced role for cursed and not ‘just’ a regular villager (if that makes sense?)

2. Rrv, or random regular villager, roles should really only be roles that are village and not roles that can potentially change teams, like gr can. They may start out as a villager, but every time a non-village player dies, there is a risk that they turn.. which I feel kind of defeats the whole ‘being a random villager role’ point of rrv 🤷🏻‍♀️

[brazen parrot]

Usually give gems without paying real money isn't a viable idea. In addition, there're some ways to get free gems already (bp tiers, weekly challenges...) Making it even more unviable

And about the change a lootbox for a rolecard, there's already a post in #feedback-devs talking about it recently. So isn't necessary give it a repost yet 😄

I can give a post in #feedback-devs as similar post to the "replace the lootbox you can get after you have all "rose avatars" for 1000 " then.

Anything more do you want to say?

Hi! How about Astronomer? Doesn't astronomer be able to kill during the new moon too?

Hello! I will redirect your feedback to the Thai translator helper. Thanks for your feedback!

Hi! I will give it a repost, thanks for your feedback!

Hi! I don't understand your suggestion. Can you give me a more detailed explanation please? 😄

Hello! What do you mean with "bp topic"? Also, do you have any ideas for it? 😄

Hi! I will give it a post. Thanks for your suggestion!

Hello! Remove a role is a decision too extremist, aren't you agree?

I think it's better find a way to reworks anarchist instead. Have you any suggestions for that? 😄

[quaint bramble]

Probably ust that it should say the name of the current theme, because not everyone is actively involved and understand what that theme is supposed to be
in this case, its Season 27: assassins

#feedback-devs message
also you wrote daily steak 🥩 instead of streak

tbh i also dislike how you did not discuss or acknowledge my objections to that suggestion.

[sick orchid]

I meant themes (Assasins etc.)

[brazen parrot]

Fixed. Thanks!
I didn't read it, sorry!

[brazen parrot]

@quaint bramble oh, right. In that case I will give it a post. Thanks for your suggestion!

Hi! So you are suggesting change the three misslynches for two, right?
Wouldn't it give less space for evil roles to push villagers in case they can't kill/found anarchist?
I think we should find another way to buff anarchist. Thanks for your suggestion tho!

[floral heath]

they can always push after enough damage has been done, gain trust from killing it and they will be in a good position anyway. but I’m open to alternatives

[still idol]

Can the grey part be changed in the player notes, to have different corlours (red & green) or something like that… it doesn’t have to be the wrist section, the outline would also work. Idk Just something to make the good/bad symbols look different? Rn they’re too similar and I keep getting them confused making the “perk” virtually useless.

[mint cloak]

it also Blocks astro

[shut burrow]

nerfs:

1. Astro should only be allowed to use the meteor during the new moon
2. New moon role blocks every killer (including village killers except astronomer)

Ig a lot of ppl suggested it

[mint cloak]

ugh forget it --

[wary prairie]

Need to mention random revealing specially in the rules. Vigilantes are random revealing days 1 and 2 revealing roles like Med or Doc.

You tell them it's reportable and the players flip out saying it's not, only random killing is

[empty wharf]

Why I don't get a role card chest but only get the custume chest when I level up

[shut burrow]

Because you've reached the monthly limit

30 cards max per level up per months

[quaint bramble]

it's sort of already in there, people are just hardcore in denial

and even the FT example is kinda the same thing

its a forceful reveal as vigi too

[floral heath]

yeah but its under using your ability against your leading team and a lot of people myself included will reveal to gain more info if there isn’t solid evidence present to kill someone, which isn’t intending to use the reveal against my team but to gain more info and potentially catch an evil

also this rule is not worded accurately as for example I’m forced to shoot as in a 5050 one is villager one is bad and if I don’t shoot I lose, so if I shoot the villager it means I’m using my ability against my leading team because I shot my own team member (it was directed for whatever reason) so from what this rule says I can be banned for choosing wrong in a forced decision

[quaint bramble]

the 2nd example would usually be day 3 or later which isnt random shooting
a 50/50 isnt random shooting at all imo, but to the rules its generally not valid on day 1-2

and revealing random has a high enough chance of revealing a team mate that it is not considered an acceptable risk usually
i believe they do still classify it as acceptable if other ppl ask/agree to do it
its a team game after all

[floral heath]

well revealing a teammate confirms them as village so info checkers don’t waste time on them plus he’ll likely be protected or at worst die but wasted time for evils to kill it first

but ok sure its best to do it only when other people are comfortable and agreeing that a reveal is in order, otherwise you have to kinda reveal yourself to ask if its ok which is the ironic bit if you ask me 😂

[wary prairie]

But most teammates just say random reveal without giving a number they find suspicious. I think a general "just random reveal" especially with info roles still alive is wrong

[quaint bramble]

yeah it's not the best system but then again im not a fan of how vigi works anyway

[quaint bramble]

if they give a number of a suso person it wouldnt be random anymore so yeah....

[floral heath]

even if you give drawbacks where village can’t vote that only further encourages early uses. people claim its just a better way to stop a but to be fair any day that goes without info on a evil player is one night more for evil players to kill which isn’t a good thing, and you would only be hindering village in the later parts of the game if you ever used your ability to stop their voting as by that time they would have been forced to vote people because they didn’t get info early enough

[still heath]

Gold ranked 8 players lobby with three ww + no gun jailer priest is extremely unbalanced and unfair to village
Suggest jww-> random voting

[floral heath]

its not always like that, I suppose you just got bad setup RNG

[still heath]

But this setup is 0 fair

Replace jww to rv pls

[floral heath]

if it is then its role ordering issue but if it occurs randomly its hard to fix

[still heath]

That's why I'm in feedback

[tidal cave]

Hey just wondering if you guys can introduce new sets for people with more than 2000 loyalty points to unlock? I need an incentive to spend more money lol.

[next nymph]

I think trapper is way too bad for the ww nop… lets not

[ivory sluice]

guys, adjust the hair properly. the gap between the hair and the skin is annoying and clear even in game. That's the whole set.

[broken karma]

there's alot of hairstyles that do that, unfortunately... i wish they'd fix them all too

[tidal estuary]

i suggest changing aura beast hunter to good, since it gets 0-1 kills every game it is really not that good compared to (say) gunner which has good aura and can kill 2 people

[oak crescent]

Gunner is actually unknown not Good

(Also bh never kills because people sit there in a corner with a trap on themself like “hehe invincibility”)

[tidal estuary]

why wouldn't you

are you not supposed to trap yourself

[mental shadow]

I think you should show result of bp voting.
Bc had lots of of everyone all like but they weren't in bp or quest clan. And of course, we need to a reason for that and results of bp voting are one of good reason.

[ivory sluice]

wait, so theres no fixing to this?!

what a bummer. this is one of my favorite hair

[alpine ibex]

Werewolves automatically assume you have a trap on yourself and are too scared to attack you which means you could efficiently protect someone else (unless rk decides to kill u)

[tidal estuary]

the point was that some of the "not that good" good roles shouldnt be unknown

i was using beast hunter as an example

[alpine ibex]

Bh is unk bc it has thr ability to kill

All villagers that can kill or are somewhat related to dead people are unknown

For example: jailer (can kill), med (is related to dead ppl) and etc.

[ancient carbon]

Except

[tidal estuary]

is flower child the worst role

[narrow blade]

president is

[tidal estuary]

is flower child the second worst role

[narrow blade]

regular villager is second worst

[tidal estuary]

then fc is 3rd?

i meant only those in basic, advanced, ranked and sandbox, but sur

sure

[narrow blade]

santa and easter bunny tied 3rd

[tidal estuary]

^^^

[narrow blade]

werewolf fan

[alpine ibex]

I mean technically the priest is just pouring water on people and killing themselves if they dont die (for whatever reason).

[tidal estuary]

it's magic water what did you expect

[alpine ibex]

Its not magic its holy

[tidal estuary]

yeah cos if they pour on good guy they sinned

[alpine ibex]

U take water u speak some words and it becomes holy water that kill mythical beasts

[tidal estuary]

so they die

or smth

[narrow blade]

get dragged to the underworld

[alpine ibex]

They kill themselves tho, no?

[runic dragon]

Hey please IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN OLD BATTLE PASS YOU COULDN'T HAVE, read on. I would like to propose to the developers to give the possibility to get the old BPs. Some ideas 1) when someone finishes the current BP first, give the possibility, with money or gems, to make another one (with the possibility to choose), only with the outfits. You could have people that buy extra gems to get it.... 2) Possibility to put the old bp in the outfit packs (more than one maybe) that you can buy with gems

[jagged helm]

This gravestone looks like a swastika

Check middle

[soft sleet]

Whats wrong with werewolf fan?

[random nebula]

you will not see it unless you're actively looking for it

[soft sleet]

Yeah I didnt see it until they mentioned it

[keen sable]

Uhm.... He lost his brain i guess

[quaint bramble]

It doesn't. It's just a common swirly shape... almost all puzzles will have this in there

Swastika specifically has straighter lines ofc

[quaint bramble]

It devalues all the effort other players put in, and removes the semse of achievement if others later can just throw money at it to get it.
People worked hard for these, because they were promised these would never ne available again...
You missed them, too bad.
The only way they should bring them back is with different colours or something

[soft sleet]

Oh god that looks awfull

[bright thorn]

Fix rank please:/

[quaint bramble]

Try explaining what you think is wrong with it first 🤔

[bright thorn]

And fix that advance game argh

[bright thorn]

I got unlucky losestreak and demoted to silver

And I can't even play rank because the match making

[quaint bramble]

No need to ping me for this btw.

[bright thorn]

I mean the lobby

[bright thorn]

I don't ping u ?

[bright thorn]

I answer ur question so i ping u lol

Yeah I'm kinda sleepy actually XD

[runic dragon]

Add an option where you can change the name of the game back to Werewolf Online

[outer comet]

Why is med able to rev cursed? I really don’t think they should be able to, since cursed is potential to change teams later on in the same game (and to avoid that, vill would need to either lynch or waste bullet/potion/etc) on killing them

[fervent ruin]

because cursed is village

[outer comet]

I know cursed is village, but it still doesn’t really make sense since cursed can at any point become ww team instead.. so either vill would have to waste a kill ability/lynch, or they would have to waste a protector on keeping cursed village

[untold wagon]

So as your feedback med wouldnt be able revive anyone when kitten ww ig because any villager potentially can change teams ?

[outer comet]

No? That’s a different scenario, seeing as the turn isn’t a potential in general for villagers to turn (ie seer isn’t automatically gonna turn ww if we attack - they die)
Cursed WILL turn if ww hit, it’s a very potential risk

[untold wagon]

Okay then

[shadow nymph]

Imagine this: Med sk and lm are alive it's night. Only cursed is online from the dead ppl. And med isn't able to rev cursed? Sk kills lm and sk won so i won't change it tbh

(Ik it's unlikely to happen but it happend to me once)

[outer comet]

Yeah that’s true (also kind of why I like the ‘stay till end’ bp challenge - I stay usually anyways, and it helps forces people to stay, so there’s better chance to get a villager revived)

[floral heath]

I agree with this. This thing also affects which is advanced and its strictly a ww team member that can be revived

[shut burrow]

Med can rev gr

Imagine reving the arso who's gonna burn yall

[floral heath]

I thought the target went away once you died

[shut burrow]

Idk tbh never happened to me

[fervent ruin]

when u revive the target thingie also revives. happened to me once

luckily i robbed vigi

[normal ravine]

Ww fan shouldn't be able to be turned.

I don't think that the majority of people playing quick game have any idea of how ww fan works since they always try and turn the ww fan immediately. If they actually read the role description they'd understand that the ww fan is going to vote with them regardless of whether they've turned. To make the role actually useful the ww fan's ability to turn should just be taken away or the ww fan should just be able to turn themself after 3 nights or so.

Going even further, my ideal suggestions would be as follows:

1. Similar to sorc, the werewolves know who the ww fan is from the start of the game. The ww fan does not however know who the werewolves are. The werewolves become unable to target the ww fan at night.

2. Any night from night 3 onwards, the ww fan can choose to become a werewolf and counts towards the werewolves win count at this point. (Optional) to prevent this from being too strong the village is notified when the ww fan turns (although this is unlikely to do much as the ww fan should really only turn when turning will cause the werewolves to win).

[frozen palm]

Please add talismans for the roles that you need for quests, e.g. Mayor, Sheriff

[stark zephyr]

I am enjoying this game a lot, but responding from guardians just suck.. please, cant you hire more people to do this job? I dont like to wait like 5-6 weeks on my appeal for an unban. Thank you.

[zenith pike]

ability rework:

You have a protection you can give to a player during the night. (This protection works like a forger shield)
While this protection is active, you can see protections.
When your protected player is attacked, you regain the protection and can give it to another player the following night.
You can't change your protected player while the protection is active.

This change could make night watchman a little more straightforward and easier to work with when they're the only protector, while keeping the strategical aspect of who to use your protection on.

[floral heath]

this makes the role worse as now you can’t freely change your protection, which also means you remove another point of to not protect who others are protecting

don’t get me wrong the above concept is unnecessary but a rework is better if you limit how many protections can watch but making it better equipped to protect other players based on that fact instead of accepting the main ability is too strong so giving it 2 bad protections will fix the issue when it doesn’t

[ripe stirrup]

change sandbox to a temporary game mode

it is known that game modes like advanced games are dead, esp in English. so, why not remove sandbox so all gamemodes have their time to shine?

at the very end, sandbox is sandbox, not "default gamemode for almost everyone". sandbox should only appear when there is stuff to test imo

to me, the best change would be removing sandbox and dividing the game modes in two sections:
1: casual game modes, created to have fun and farm exp -> quick game and custom games
2: competitive game modes, created to actively try to win, improve etc. -> advanced and ranked
this could come with two different sets of rules, created to ensure everyone can actually have fun in this game without ruining anyone's experience. it would also make guardian's life easier, and the player base would be at least a bit healthier

[still idol]

Add option to “lock cards” or something that will stop certain cards from appearing in the list of “cards to sacrifice,” while a user is upgrading a card. This is to insure players don’t accidentally sacrifice the wrong card especially higher cards like rare/epic.

[outer comet]

(idk if I’m allowed to just answer here or if it’s only for guardians/staff to answer.. if it is, sorry)

Mayor already got talisman, and sheriff indirectly got since it is advanced role for rl (which do also have tali already)
You cannot get an advanced role in a game unless you have it unlocked on the base role’s card (as an advanced role), with exception for a potential to get an not-unlocked role when joining as hero

[frozen palm]

Oh you're right about mayor i just overlooked it, thanks 🙂 ik you're not a guardian but i got a different idea, how about something like the perk exchange vouchers but for role cards: you get a voucher and can choose any advanced role from any card that you will become next time you'd become the base role, like that i can become eg spirit seer for a quest even tho i dont have the card for it (i hope it's understandable what i'm trying to say)

But it's a one time thing, so even if you choose the base role instead of the advanced role you'll lose the role voucher

[shut burrow]

The thing is that you can get quests for ss and sheriff because they are fixed in advanced mode

[outer comet]

I have noticed that you can get challenges for two advanced roles (which I feel should maybe be one base one adv only), but I don’t really play advanced so didn’t realise some advanced roles were fixed there

But still like, if you could just have ie sheriff tali and use them to get the roles (in sandbox, for rrv, for example), why even bother with having base and advanced roles then? Why not just go back to when all roles had tali’s then?

[frozen palm]

That's exactly why i just got up with this different idea

[broken karma]

well I haven't asked, i dunno

[quaint bramble]

thats not wat she said, and yes the designer staff can fix it
they did update quite a few a while ago i believe
but these are easily overlooked

[robust estuary]

I'll give this a post, thank you for your suggestion!

There are currently no plans to reopen that channel, thanks anyway for your suggestion!

Users were getting jailed/banned as mods saw fit. That channel was being handled like the rest, it was extremely hard to moderate, closed due to the number of infractions

I'll give this a post, thank you for your suggestion!

This was a bug, has been fixed. Thanks anyway for your suggestion!

I'll give this a post! Thank you for your suggestions!

Heya! Unsure on what #item-previews has to do with the BP challenges, the challenges aren't there.
The BP challenge rewards are also made specifically for the BP in question it's not like it's just a skin for the BP in which there are plenty to choose from or a quest that doesn't need to follow a specific theme.
I don't see how voting on a reward would make a challenge easier/harder

We have already voted on the BP challenges, and as for the challenge you're talking about the majority was fine with 5 cards #dev-vote message

WIll give this a post! Thanks for your suggestion

Will give this a post! Thanks for your suggestion!

Heya! This has already been fixed, please keep in mind bugs go on #bugs-readonly! Thanks!

Heya! Just to make sure we're on the same page, the goal is to correct lynching -> lynched, correct? I don't see a problem with "day vote" or "goal"

If they do so for the first 30 seconds of the game they'll flee and be replaced, thanks anyway for your suggestion!

Will give this a post, thanks for your suggestion!

[digital saddle]

I meant this reward (the upper one) i know it's not bp reward

What even is that
That's my question

[robust estuary]

Good, i interpreted it like that

[robust estuary]

A piece of meat being cut into 4 (?)

[digital saddle]

Perhaps, i misunderstood xd

In my eyes, That's not what i am seeing (I'm not the only one too) That looks like a sliced ass

(No Offense)

[hushed folio]

Thanks

[robust estuary]

I don't see that anywhere

[digital saddle]

Congrats then

I still see it

[robust estuary]

Uhm.. thanks, congrats too?
I don't see a problem with it, like i said those rewards are made specifically for the BP challenges, it's not like the BP outfits where there is a selection to choose from

[digital saddle]

Yeah but, Don't make more skins like this, This is ridiculous

Sorcerer, when revealed by Vigilante should be shown as the disguised role.

Sorcerer role will be revealed only when they are dead

[robust estuary]

I disagree, the item looks pretty unique and fits the theme well. When it comes to avatar items it's very impossible to please every single person, people have different preferences.

[digital saddle]

Seriously 🤦‍♂️

[broken charm]

Solo voting roles (fool/headhunter/anarchist) should have an additional win condition that allows them to win automatically if they're the last remaining player.

Anarchist should be buffed because they can't really do anything right now except hope that they get really lucky, it's not a fun role. I suggest that they get an ability that they can use twice per game that allows them to force a mandatory vote.

[still idol]

Is it meat? I thought it was fruit like a cantaloupe or something lol

[digital saddle]

And here i am thinking it is a sliced ass

Which it obviously looks like

[still idol]

Yeah I’ve heard that it looks like that too, but even so it’s still not a bad cosmetic in my opinion because I thought it was like a fruit Ninja or something which can be used for various avatars

[robust estuary]

Yep, I'm pretty serious

[digital saddle]

There is blood. + What kind of meat is that?

[robust estuary]

The outside is a skin tone color and and inside is bloody with what looks to be a bone of sorts 👀

[still idol]

I thought it was fruit juice 😭

[still idol]

Yeah I see that now it just looked circular to me so I thought it was a citrus of some sort

[digital saddle]

Great. What's gonna happen ?
More sliced ass?

[digital saddle]

💀

[robust estuary]

Okay I don't wanna explain it here since this is not this channel's purpose but it's very clear it's not an ||ass||, basic anatomy.

[digital saddle]

That obviously looks like an ass, Come on, you don't see it?

[robust estuary]

I'd suggest using the search tools you have to your disposal and to move out of the channel, thanks

[digital saddle]

Ok, Who should i complain about this grave to?

@robust estuary ...

[robust estuary]

This would be the right place and I didn't forward your suggestion

[digital saddle]

Do you need witnessess who obviously thinks it's a sliced ass?

[robust estuary]

I don't need anyone else to evaluate it for me. I evaluated it and made a decision.

[digital saddle]

Kinda biased but fine

I will just talk to Lisa (Who will just ignore others and me)

[robust estuary]

Feedback on me goes to my higher ups, you can DM a mod about it

[hoary pagoda]

As someone who does kinda see the butt (which.. is the main reason I wanted the grave so bad if I’m being honest) I don’t see a problem with it. If you don’t like an avatar item, just.. don’t use it or go out of your way to obtain it?
There are plenty of people who do like the grave, so why take it away because a few people don’t? If every item I thought was ugly was removed from the game I’m sure tons of people would be upset by it

[quaint bramble]

the app def has more provocative looking items lol
the mushroom body, love it or hate it, they did not remove it
cleavage shirts have been appearing in generous amounts too, with pretty much half boobs hanging out
and a BP outfit with 18+ censored labels that i did complain about it

also none of the lines sticking out of it read as blood to me, more like 'action lines' for the slicing motion

[quaint bramble]

ass doesnt have the round parts sticking perfectly to the left n right mah dude.
ass is round in the back, the rounds pointing in the same direction
it also doesnt have any sign of butt crack shape besides being completely sliced in half

maybe they should make it more meaty coloured cause idk any meat with that colour on the outside and steak look on the inside 😂
but then it probbaly gets complained about being racist for some reason

[atomic sparrow]

I find it funny to talk about realism in a game where the whole avatar drawing style is rather cartoonish than realistic

[cyan barn]

Well if it's just an arse then yea, that's typically how it's drawn (hint: not quite atomically correct 😂)

still, I have to ask what it's supposed to be

[quaint bramble]

it's some chunk of meat, which can be determined more from the insides than the outside colour and shape

[cyan barn]

I understand that it probably wasn't the intention, but to those not so familiar with human anatomy, it defidently looks like it's a slice up arse... to me, it deffidently looks like thee pelvis(?) was the included 'bone' inside of the 'meat'

[quaint bramble]

the pelvis is for sure the most not-straight n small, round bone in the entire body 🤨

you can literally click on it to get a more enhanced view which is this

[kindred grove]

Think that mandatory vote thing is pretty cool actually

Kitten ww ability should be able to convert random voting ( )
Since it's already difficult for them because of protection and solo killers.
And solo convertors can convert random voting,so I think it's fair.

[kindred grove]

And also I think that third suggestion from the end in #feedback-devs will cause random killing from the to get new moon so i don't like it.

[quaint bramble]

#feedback-devs message
helps if you're a bit more specific, since more things will get posted there.

[opaque kiln]

it is very frustrating that i have to repeat the phrase 'vigil cannot random reveal, it's gamethrowing' and then recieveing 'random revealing is not reportable, only random killing is' in EVERY SINGLE GAME. The easiest solution to just simple make an announcement about this in game and done, the whole world will know the rules and stop ruining our fun. WHY is it so hard to do it???

[drifting notch]

Anarchist buff:

Gunner/vigi shooting a villager

[kindred grove]

🤨

[ashen sorrel]

I think the game doesnt want random voting turned cuz rv is not village anyway but they let rk convert rv cuz they have different winning condition than ww. Rk need to be alive so if sl zombie bandit cannot convert fool hh they will have to tie the game but ww only need to have same number as villager so they dont let ww convert rv

[kindred grove]

Well,I guess you right

[fossil sparrow]

" Combine cards with basic role "
You can combine the roles of the role cards together. For example if you have all the cards of Aura Seer then you can choose 1 of 3 advanced roles of aura seer. (spirit, violinist or gamber) when game start

[charred cedar]

"advanced roles of fortune teller."
what?

[runic dragon]

we should get +30 xp for playing with friends in crazy modes

[soft sleet]

But then the perks would go to waste

[runic dragon]

on the friend request notification we should be able to slide and accept it while it is on our banners

[robust estuary]

Thanks for your suggestion, i'll give this a post!

@charred cedar Does "the revived werewolf dies in the next discussion phase if wolf summoner dies" rather than is lynched, sound okay to you? Overlooked that detail, i think it makes sense if the feature is enabled when they die rather than when they're lynched.

[charred cedar]

I meant to write dies instead of lynched but then I didn't for whatever Reason. It's meant to be dies.

[digital saddle]

Then, what's it? It had blood. Fruits don't bleed. Skin has it? Yeah. It is round? Yeah

[robust estuary]

Got it! Thought so but didn't wanna change without confirmation, will post that

[earnest pine]

Why I dont have role icon place

<@&446015884511674369>

Is it bug ?

[robust estuary]

Please don't ping entire roles, we handle posts in chronological order, we'll get to yours eventually.

[earnest pine]

Ok

[robust estuary]

I'm not sure of what you're talking about with the icons, if you have an advanced role the icon for that role will be on top of it. If you unsure whether something is a bug or not, post it in #bugs-readonly and someone will take a look at it. Thanks for understanding

[earnest pine]

I cant use this . I havent place to use

[robust estuary]

Will give this a post, will keep it as 3 since dying by other means other than lynching seems to make it balanced. Thanks for your suggestion!

Heya! For free you'd be able to get 1 card from daily rewards and 2 cards from daily challenges. You also have an option to buy cards at the shop.
Please use #questions next time, you'll be getting a delayed response here while in questions the usual time for a response is much smaller

[drowsy pelican]

hello....

i used to love wwo and have a lot of fun with this game, i made friends and met a lot of cool people and I even found help for my hw lmao

but now, the community is becoming really toxic and annoying. i started playing in 2018 and i remember people were fun, if you made a mistake people explained you what you did wrong, you could use every strategies you want, you could make jokes, you were not forced to claim etc

now the game became so rude and isn't fun anymore, in EVERY GAME the chat is like report report report for nothing

i just played a game where the aura told everybody to report lm for teaming and throwing because his reveal was the one the aura said he was abt to check

once i wad vigi and i was 99% sure the rl was fake. I've been asked to shoot someone because village was close to lose. i didn't shot the fake rl because I was afraid of being reported if I was wrong. obviously, the fake rl was a ww and the wws won

when an important role goes afk after death before the med revs them people say to report

when you refuse to claim in early game (like day 1 or 2) and you get shot, people report you for throwing

also you can get reported if you don't rev the good person, once the med revived vigi instead of seer and got reported

i have a lot of examples like this. and every report call comes with its lot of insults

i just want to say that this game is becoming boring because of its community, maybe you can do something about it like prevention or idk, this game became a report war and is not funny anymore

I'm sorry if this message is too long, also english isn't my first language so I'm sorry if the grammar is wrong

[soft sleet]

I didnt play the older versions so I dont know how good it was back then but I can agree with you on its current state. Everybody is like “I will report you for this for that”

Hell some people get reported for making a normal joke

[drowsy pelican]

yes 💀💀 once I said smth like maybe I'm ww😜😜 and I've been told that I could be reported for that

[soft sleet]

I know right? Like its not even about “sensitivity” or “taking the game seriously” people are reporting EVERYTHİNG

And not even that. They say stuff like “if you vote me I will report you” boo fucking hoo its a game about voting and lying

[drowsy pelican]

I voted fool for fun and got reported 💀💀 like if village lost because of my single vote ??

and nobody reported vigi for random reveal mmhhh it's only when it's bothering the village 🤨

[quaint bramble]

I already answered these if you cared to read 🙂

[robust estuary]

Heya! Your first suggestion is already on #feedback-devs, you can vote on it here: #feedback-devs message
Second suggestion seems interesting but "shaman" isn't fitting at all Do you, or anyone reading, have any suggestions for the name of the ability? Deceiving would sound better but it isn't particularly related to anarchist

[digital saddle]

Hmmm

Why not just

Why not just make it meat coloured then

[quaint bramble]

Guess what? already mentioned that too

This is a prettttyyy nice place to suggest that

[digital saddle]

That level of sarcasm won't work on me

If you knew it already, then i wouldn't have to complain about this

[ancient carbon]

Tbh that thing looked like a potato to me

[strong warren]

Manipulation?

Or manipulate

[floral flame]

Swindlify?

[quaint bramble]

That's not what i said. I said i already mentiomed this before and only giving you sass to point out again that you don't even read the messages you were replying to.

[digital saddle]

Okay, i guess devs are gonna do nothing about it then

Thanks for wasting my time, I appreciate it

[quaint bramble]

You'll have make a suggestion for changing the colour. Yknow how this channel works.

[digital saddle]

Ik this channel works but, does it actually work?

Is it just for nothing but suggestions which won't be taken seriously unless a riot or something happens?

[quaint bramble]

It does, you can always just ask opinion from another helper too

It's abit of a weird topic to insist on though when people described in like 10 different ways that it doesnt rlly look like butt.

[digital saddle]

It does -_-, am i a joke to you

[robust estuary]

I already did, @digital saddle although that seems unnecessary feel free to ask more helpers for more opinions...

Heya! This has already been suggested, you can vote on it here: #feedback-devs message

That's because the ears aren't on top of the base avatar item (the "body"), it's not an invisible layer so it doesn't change with the skin color.
We don't post wishes on outfits but i could forwards the idea of making future items that are supposed to resemble body parts to come in all skin tones if that's okay with you, let me know what you think

[runic dragon]

Yeah thank u

[robust estuary]

Will forward it privately since it's more of a designer's feedback rather than a feedback for the devs

Heya! That is a bug, not a feature. Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks anyway for the suggestion

Will give this a post, thank you for your suggestion!

[quaint bramble]

Honestly i do think you were a bit dismissive and this is definitely a more opinion based feedback where surely some people do agree with him, which could include a helper willing to just passing on to the designer

[agile grail]

Being able to destroy an epic card and getting a perk shard in exchange. Perk shards will be used to upgrade any perk to level 3. Sometimes you get an adv role you don't want and if you don't want to sacrifie other 3 epic cards, you will have earned an useless card. This also make easier to upgrade perks, as many people prefer using cards for getting advanced roles rather than upgrading perks.

[quaint bramble]

@robust estuary anyway what do you think about making it more meat coloured?

[robust estuary]

Yep, i was pretty dismissive. There will always be people that think certain item doesn't look good or resembles x or y, it's pretty impossible to please everyone when it comes to an avatar item. Since the majority of people that expressed their opinion did mentioned how it doesn't resemble an "ass" i don't see a valid reason to forward it. They did take it to Lisa

[robust estuary]

The inside color?

[quaint bramble]

The outside
Preferably to a dark one to resemble cooked meat

[robust estuary]

The BP theme is assassins so i don't see how cooked meat would be better (in terms of fitting the theme) than a random cut up body part Is the goal to make it not look like it could belong to a human?

[quaint bramble]

You're also calling this a body part now?? Yeah i didn't think that's where it was going for. And i don't think it should look more like one

Slicing meat or fruit is a generic way to show off blade weapons and ninja skill
Like slicing water melons is common

[robust estuary]

To me looks like human meat, also resembles a grave already in game that is a human finger

[digital saddle]

There's already a human finger gravestone. So,

It's also cut

(I'm not here to argue anyways)

[robust estuary]

this one

[digital saddle]

Yes, Thanks for pointing it out

[quaint bramble]

Idk this other grave and i just thought a cooked colour could look better with the shape of this object

I do think a cut finger is significantly less disturbing than a sliced up body part that looks way more.. lethal

||Also lol that must be a huge finger or a really tiny sword 😂||

[ancient carbon]

I don’t know why but I think that grave could trigger some people

[robust estuary]

Well i don't really think that would fit the theme as well and even tho there isn't really a body part with that cylinder shape i also don't see a problem with it. I'll ask for a second opinion as not to be so dismissive and it will be forwarded or not forwarded depending on it, sounds alright?

Heya, this has already been suggested, you can vote on it here: #feedback-devs message

Sorry for the ghost ping, accidentally deleted my reply
Will forward this, thanks for your suggestion!

[digital saddle]

I'm one of those ppl

[robust estuary]

Heya, setup suggestions go to Lisa!

[soft sleet]

Who is it gonna trigger bro 💀

[quaint bramble]

I already gave statements why it does fit the theme.
I don't have a problem with the shape, it's the colour.
Being dismissive referred to the tone, not simply the act of disagreeing. Very different.
Ofcourse that sounds alright, though i also don't really understand why not just post it to gauge public opinion in fd devs?
As staff you don't actually have to agree with a suggestion to post it, as long as it's viable and not game breaking

[soft sleet]

Evil detective isnt in the random solo killer role. And I am pretty sure it is impossible to get him from random solo killer

[floral heath]

you can if you roll and use card

[soft sleet]

Well technically yeah. But if all the other advanced roles are there why not

[floral heath]

they forgot to add it on the list

[soft sleet]

I know

Thats why I am pointing it out

[wind sentinel]

Repost - Bring back old bp emotes as limited emotes offer

[robust estuary]

There's a difference between agreeing and thinking it makes sense/is needed

I don't post strictly what I agree with it

[runic dragon]

Hi

[meager gyro]

Keep in mind that difference of position in queue doesnt equal total amount of tickets answered during that time, there are many seperate queues counting and above resembles 1 path, as well as closing ticket speed depending on interactions inside opened tickets apart from mod availability -

[craggy furnace]

So relateable

[sleek wren]

if it was a ticket for other reasons than a reward (for example a report or something)
Report tickets are made through a completely different system though

• if you mean in-game reporting it's through the game only
• if you mean discord reporting, it's either #discord-reporting-old-2025 or staff dms

[rapid lake]

Ohh alright thanks :) didn’t know

[rapid lake]

I see! I had no idea

[ancient carbon]

I mean, a cut finger could be scary

[soft sleet]

oh, I thought you meant like people would get angry about it

[jade pike]

No,it can trigger fears.

[still idol]

Can a option to report someone under “inappropriate messages” and or “hero targeting” be added. I frequently have to report people under “other” for these two specific reasons (really just inappropriate messages, hero targeting isn’t actually that common I’ve only had to rep like 2-3 times lol but I thought of this while rep someone for targeting)

[jade pike]

Would it be possible to vote for your favourite advanced role for each base role that would then improve your chances of getting the advanced over the others for the same base role?

[drifting notch]

?

[oak crescent]

It’s honestly disappointing that I spent several minutes typing a full paragraph as why random werewolf should be added to a setup wait for days for a reply just for a response you spend all of 2 seconds on

[jade pike]

I suggested a new random role and got no response. Random teamer, for roles like cupid and cursed

[robust estuary]

I had already told you this when you first posted it... and Lisa did already take a look at it. So you didn't exactly wait days for this response.
If that's your concern yep, you need to respect the queue like everyone else

[still idol]

New daily/bp challenge: [Donate X amount of to clan]

Or just [spend X amount of ]

[floral flame]

People who have no clan : <-<

[jade pike]

People who have bought everything they can with coins

[still idol]

I mean like roses and talismans

???

Or it the suggestion still just trash? 💀

[floral flame]

I think the spend X amount of gold is ok

[still idol]

Idk I just feel like we need more variety of challenges, but challenges are so hard to come up with D:

[floral flame]

Riggt

[ruby hatch]

Hi, i would like to know if the devs plan to put some hair or clothes from each country to sell, so we can cheer for our countries 🙂 🇧🇷🇧🇷

[earnest pine]

hey my wolvesville broke help me. I finished role icon quest but I cant use . I dont have place .(role icon = role picture)

[timid musk]

can ritu rev corrupted players?

[hybrid lodge]

Add something in the role menu so that we can tell how many rrvs there are WHETHER WE ARE RRVS OR NOT.
If it's 2 : then it shows "2 rrvs" to EVERYONE.

It's annoying to ask "how many rrvs" in all sandbox/serious games.

[shut burrow]

Ask in #questions

[soft sleet]

Yes

[shut burrow]

nah id only do that for rww rk and rv

[cyan barn]

better idea:

it should just tell you when you're an rrv

[floral flame]

🙌

[cyan barn]

rww isn't as important, since in every mode it appears in, the quantity is consistent; the solos tho, are huge

[woeful warren]

L opinion

fr

[cyan barn]

I've literally seen ranked arsos lose d1 bc they didn't know the set up had RK

[cyan barn]

could you elaborate?

😂

[woeful warren]

whats there more to elaborate?

[cyan barn]

you said my opinion was L
without backing up your claim

[woeful warren]

why would they change it back to the previous way it was?

[cyan barn]

???

[floral heath]

if player is villager then yes, but ask #questions next time ye

[woeful warren]

want me to elaborate more?

[floral heath]

You just need to learn Rule of Thumbs for setups in certain modes

Quick Game - No RRV (or occasionally it will replace Cursed or Cupid)
Sandbox - Always 2 RRV
Ranked - Consistently 3 RRV but always open to change
Advanced - Currently 3 RRV or 2 RRV and Cupid

[still idol]

This challenge should give more xp, it’s actually pretty difficult to complete and 200xp for it is kinda low

[floral heath]

that challenge sucks

[shut burrow]

kinda yeah

[opaque kiln]

it feels like those easy task have more xp than the hard ones

Daily task suggestion:
(1)
Unlock: When a player has x and all it's advance roles
Task: Play as x and all it's advance roles each for a game (x = base role)
XP amount: starts at 375 (only x and 1 advance), for each extra advance role, adds 100 xp, so if the player receives x as mayor, then he will gain 375 + 100 + 100 xp when finishing)

(2)
Unlock: When a player has x and all it's advance roles
Task: Win as x and all it's advance roles each for a game (x = base role)
XP amount: - Villagers: starts as 450, for each extra advance role + 100
- Ww: starts at 750, for each extra advance role + 300
- RV: starts at 700, for each extra advance role + 250
- RK: starts at 2000, for each extra advance + 1000

[cyan barn]

ok first of all
that was a thing?
second of all
i'm just saying a little note on the side of your role saying something like "you are rrv, don't be upset when people give you weird looks"

[still idol]

Yeah the easier ones do seem to give more

like my other challenge for today is play as X or Y role twice and I get 450xp which doesn’t seem right compared to the other one which is way harder

[still idol]

I’m not entirely sure what this whole message is saying, i think I understand enough though…. Your idea is good imo however your amounts are way to high especially the second one

[native yarrow]

2 suggestions:

1. should win if they're the last alive - fitting for an anarchist if everyone dies

2. should die if there's less villagers alive than they need for their goal, otherwise they're a sitting duck and physically can't win

[opaque kiln]

I am just looking at the current quests and then making the decisions

[opaque kiln]

Not high at all, imagine needing to win as rk three times in a day

[still idol]

Oh

Okay I see now I didn’t understand that… but that seems too hard then

[kindred grove]

It would be too powerful and you said it wrong

[placid quiver]

I'm a free player and i don't have much money so pls add coin to buy package but in high price if not, it's okay p.s. english is my second language

[cyan barn]

I disagree with point 1, since it's supposed to be a solo voter (SVs should always win upon a lynch meeting their win criteria, I will die on this hill)
Though I think the 2nd point is fine, assuming it is common knowledge (meaning you have to factor in wwt & corr)

[toxic heron]

Anarchist should be third party role/Anarchist is on team village but he can win if 3 vill is lynched or village win

[cyan barn]

absolutely not

hh barely ever acts like a solo role, is that what you want from our first solo voter in what i have to assume is over 4 years?

[cyan barn]

Hot take but i don't think they should...

I can already see people in quick game just recreating stereotypes

[broken charm]

they already did sell hair with flags on them

[blissful sundial]

It’s already in the game

[crisp herald]

Role name in Thai language is mistake, from ผู้ผลิกวิกฤต to ผู้พลิกวิกฤต (ผ and พ is difference)

[gleaming obsidian]

petition to bring this back to the shop. Been waiting for over a year.

[brazen parrot]

Okay, I will give it a post. Thanks for your feedback!

[toxic heron]

When you click Rrv/rww/rsv/rk/rv list you should be able to click these role on the list and you can see the role description

[brazen parrot]

Hi! Actually anarchist can be killed by werewolves. The message saying anarchist cannot be killed it's a bug and will be fixed soon.
Thanks for your support!

[steady sluice]

WHERE IS AFRO FLAGS? its World Cup time 🥲

The last time there was a World Cup - hair with flags was available in the inventory

Please add them to the inventory for the duration of the championship.

[quaint bramble]

the factt that they were shaped as afro's was a bit offensive...
flagshirts for example would be much more sensible.

or literally any other kind of item, like front item mini flags or headbands/caps or even facepaint on the cheeks

[steady sluice]

But last time I did not have time to buy all the hairstyles

Im sad

[quaint bramble]

you know who also dont get to buy afro hairstyles in this game? every person. this game does not have any NORMAL afro hair styles 🥲
only these ridiculous cartoonish world cup flag ones.

[steady sluice]

i like them

[quaint bramble]

Doesnt make them any less offensive and doesnt help anyone who cannot find representative hair in this game

also, i dont follow a lot of sports, but when do fans ever wear afro wigs in their country;s colour anyway?

why not just, shirts.

[steady sluice]

Who does this offend? Haven't you seen the fans' wigs?

[quaint bramble]

It's mostly people of colour who are not being represented in their hair styles, instead only this mockery of their hair exists.

Im not saying to remove them, whats done is done, but they still need to ADD proper afro hairstyles.

what part? why? 🙂

[steady sluice]

I'm more than sure it doesn't offend anyone. Because this game is not based on realism. Everything about it is cartoonish

[quaint bramble]

have you seen hair in the game that look this?

[steady sluice]

Give me one sec

[quaint bramble]

they dont exist
and they should

[floral heath]

[quaint bramble]

afro's arent just a world cup gimmick in funny colours

[quaint bramble]

that was finally some progress but theyre not wearable items

[hollow parrot]

Positive Feedback should be said too!
In this regards: the new API is great, very well documented and the setup with the bots is well thought. The access management is good and (as far as i can say) the security measures are proper.

In this regard: a good feature for the future would be a platform to share communitybots with others

[steady sluice]

I'm not interested in why the game doesn't have afro hairstyles. I'm wondering why Afro flags weren't added during the World Cup

[digital saddle]

Country flags?

[quaint bramble]

And I sincerely hope its because they took the past complaints about them seriously.
They exist, that doesnt mean they have to be sold again. let them make shirts instead for future events.

[steady sluice]

I'm not interested in t-shirts I want back afro flags

[quaint bramble]

you had the chance to buy them already. they never did promise they'd be back anyway.

[stone timber]

A clan update: add 2 new chats, one for only co leaders to discuss about quests etc. And one for the leader only for announcements. This would help organizing the clan more and would make it a lot easier to discuss

[warm helm]

@steady sluice Please don't call the topic about racial inclusivity nonsense, it is only becoming more important nowadays so it is important to people from all over the world

[steady sluice]

This topic is undoubtedly important in our time, but my question was not about it. The topic of racial discrimination was discovered by another user.

[warm helm]

If you know the importance of it then please don't call it nonsense

[steady sluice]

I just said this because there is no discrimination in the game (look at the range of skin colors)

Hope explained to you what I mean

[shut burrow]

nerf
make that killing cannot be done during the new moon by any team
example:
wolf seer can check but not vote
jailer can jail but cant shoot
arso can douse but not ignite
alch can only give a red potion that isnt going to kill
ww can still communicate at night

[quaint bramble]

not discovered, explained. Just something to reconsider your suggestion.
and having more than just white skin colours in a game doesnt mean there is no discrimination...
takes quite a bit more than that.

[steady sluice]

Please stop

[still idol]

If you are spectating and a player sends a rose bouquet, you should not see it under “only me” because you are not actually receiving a rose due to the fact that you are not playing

[broken charm]

I think this idea from a couple days ago might have been missed, because I posted it right in the middle of a discussion someone was having with a Helper.

[still idol]

The helpers look at messages I’m chronological order, so I don’t think your message was bypassed the staff just has a lot to do so sometimes it takes a while for them to get to your feedback. The last response from a staff that I saw was to a message on the 17 so it takes quite a few days for them to respond, so be patient :D

[old violet]

The Sorcerer picks should be seen by other werewolves at night. All the other rules should apply. The werewolves have no seer all game.

[hearty cosmos]

Then it would just be ww seer but better

[old violet]

It is a advanced role

[shut burrow]

thats not the point

sorcerer is very good in the right hands

but horrible in if you dont have the necessary skill

only thing sorc needs is to bypass shaman's enchantment

[glacial yarrow]

an option to decline gifts that u get sent to would be very pleasant

[brazen parrot]

Hi! The daily offers that appear in the main menu are choosen randomly. Create an in game calendar with X amount of upcoming outfits wouldn't be viable for me. What are your thoughts on it? Do you think it's really viable to the game? How will the calendar look?

[outer gull]

oh, i never knew it was random

[brazen parrot]

Hello! Anarchist winnin while dead is a bug and it's already fixed according to #game-change-log. Sorry for the late reply and thanks for your support!

[outer gull]

well i think it just helps with knowing what outfits are to come so you can save better

if the amount of outfits is also random ig that could be hard

[brazen parrot]

Hey! Solo killer already had their opportunity to win before gr takes their place. Thanks for your feedback anyway!

Hello! I understand your point of view, however, two misslynches aren't enough, werewolves don't have enough space to push villagers while anarchist is alive.
I think we should find another way to rework anarchist. Thanks for your suggestion anyway!

[hearty cosmos]

yeah that was kinda before i read changelog

but thanks

[brazen parrot]

Hi! I will reply your suggestions 😄

flash light ability
I don't understand your point apart to prove yourself (something that nwm can already do). Why will nwm mark a player? Why would that mark can be useful for the protectors?

See other succed protections
Wouldn't it be too overpower for a night watchman? You will be able to confirm players easily knowing that

Add an extra protection
I think add an extra protection isn't a bad idea, I can give it a repost!

Keep seeing other protections once you don't have more protections
Afaik night watchman could see other protections once they don't have more protections in the past. I think add it again wouldn't be viable

Do you have something to add to my replies? Thanks for your feedback!

Hello! Anarchist can be killed by werewolves. The message is wrong and it will be fixed soon. Thanks for your support!

Hello! We can suggest change the role description instead "You can choose to permanently bind yourself to a player during the night".
If you want split can bind during the day too, why do you think split wolf needs that buff?

Hello! Gr choosing their own target isn't viable. There're roles you can become as grave robber, making not possible your suggestion. Thanks for your suggestion anyway! 😄

Hi! Do you refer to werewolf fan shouldn't win if they aren't turned into a werewolf?

Hi! And how do you make the bell ringer's description clearer?

Hi! I will give it a post. Thanks for your feedback!

[opaque kiln]

To make it more similar to a jww that can also choose a target during the day

[brazen parrot]

And what's really the point of be able to bind to someone during the day that you cannot do at night?
I only think that, if you are lynched before you bind to someone, kill an important villager role with you.
This doesn't sound bad, however, it's pretty similar to jrww after all... If you want to do it, where're the pros to choose jrww instead?
What are your thoughts?

Hi! You can suggest an anarchist rework/buff in this channel to improve the role! Any suggestions? 😄

Hi! And people can just choose two-three different games and then choose the previous winner again?

Hello! That would harm the werewolves and solo killers trying to misslynch villagers. If normally fool and headhunter "helps" evils making the village can't vote without info (but evils have more freedom of it) Anarchist will benefit villager instead
I don't think it would be viable. Thanks for your suggestion anyway!

Hello! Do you have any ideas to rework anarchist? 😄

Redirected to mods. Thanks for your suggestion!

Hello! By any chance do you have a ticket already open?

Hello! Do you have any suggestions to rework anarchist? 😄

Hi again!

About the suggestion number one, reduce the amount of villager lynched to two doesn't sounds pretty good due there's no space for evils to misslynch villagers

About making anarchist invulnerable, I think it's a good idea. But maybe anarchist should be inmune to all non-evil attacks but bomber. What are your thoughts?

Hello! But then where's the real difference between fool and headhunter. With that rework, Headhunter will be a "fool with a target". I understand your point, but I think we should find another way to improve the role.
Thanks for your suggestion anyway!

Hello! I will reply your suggestions ^^

A: giving only two misslynches to win will lead to less misslynch space for evil roles, making harder to play as werewolf or solo killer with anarchist in game

B: Something similar to previous message. 4 misslynches if you are dead doesn't sound very fair for evil roles. Imagine killing villagers to win and the anarchist who died D2 win the game doing nothing

C: that suggestion was already posted in #feedback-devs. Here's the link!
#feedback-devs message

Thanks for your suggestions!

[sage coral]

It's fair to think that it would just make it "fool with a target" but the role is meant to be compatible with fool anyway (since they are advanced cards of each other). I would like if you talk with other helpers about it and maybe give it a post, I suggested this: #feedback-devs message
But you rejected my feedback back then even if now that post has a lot of support

[trim snow]

No like i said , i can't open any

[drifting notch]

What did i say wrong?

[sage coral]

Solo voting suggestion :
Since village is scared of lynching Fool but not Headhunter or Anarchist (drastically changing the gameplay depending on which one is in game), I suggest two buffs so the mentality changes from "Let's lynch Headhunter/Anarchist so we can randon lynch" to "This player might be Fool/Headhunter/Anarchist, do not lynch them":
Headhunter: When their target dies they are given a new valid target, if there is none they become their own target.
Anarchist: Once two villagers have been lynched, getting lynched themselves also counts towards their win condition.

[sage coral]

Btw here's a cleaner version and a better explained reason why this must be applied. It's ok if you still do not like the idea but I send it just in case others might like it

[sage coral]

And I'm truly sorry if I'm making your job harder, it just seems unfair that my fb gets rejected just because you read it instead of another helper like in the past

[kindred grove]

You said it like gunner or vigi gonna shoot villager for anarchist,if you wanted to give anarchist this ability,then just say bullet.

[drifting notch]

I said nothing wrong, you cant read

[opaque kiln]

the pros of jww would be able to change target anytime and if the target dies, you live

[shut burrow]

Idm a split wolf buff lets make that ww S tier :)

[untold wagon]

Yes

[bold ledge]

Why did you make items in the inventory bigger ?
It's even more complicated to find the right item now, and it's way too big anyway

[gleaming obsidian]

You can only bind once, which makes you hesitant to bind too early because you need to consider the fact that whoever you take out can't die until late-game. So, not any seer because you don't want seers to hand out information till late-game.

You also can't bind to rk because that would make the 'extra ww for win condition' useless.

Picking a target while rk is still ig, leaves you vulnerable to being taking out along with a villager.

Then, say you get found out at night by seer and village will lynch you, you can't even pick an extra target to go down with you.

Spww is a mess and there are too many conditions to make this role anywhere near as good as jww or kww. Jww and Kww thrive when they are taken out early. Spww's only redeeming quality of an extra ww for win condition is only helpful late-game after rk's already been taking down.

[fossil sparrow]

any world cup event in game ?

[opaque kiln]

When a wwt disguised player is killed being disguised, the player should know they have been marked by wwt, an wwt arrow (its icon) will appear for the player to know

[tidal estuary]

this first quest should be at least 600xp

not dying is a very difficult thing

if you're even a remotely good role you get killed by evil roles eventually

if you're evil you get shot or witch potioned or whatever

[opaque kiln]

could we increase the max amount of cards to be earnt per month to 40 since it's just like punishing normal players that might play more but only earning 30 cards per month

[still heath]

if tough guy is corrupted but corruptor die in any ways at day tough guy shouldn't die 🤔

[woven peak]

When corruptor is killed the corrupted person survives the next day, yes. But when tg is attacked tg can see attacker and dies at the end of the day
I don't see a reason why Tg shouldn't die

[broken charm]

If someone joins as a role required by a 'play games as' quest, it should count towards the quest regardless if they get converted.

[kindred grove]

Lol this gun pointing on looks funny to me

[kindred grove]

Or at least when you buy double XP boost it's increase to 40

[tidal estuary]

it remains that not dying is a colossal task

[tidal estuary]

buying 🤮

[kindred grove]

Ahaha

Nah

Didn't donated a single thing

It's my clan gifts

This leader is very cool

Cares about clanmembers

[floral apex]

Ritualist suggestion
Ritualist can tag 2 players. The first player who dies will be revived
If both players die at the same time (arsonist, bomber etc) a random one will be revived

I think this would be useful because when the village is voting for the jww there is no way to know if they will tag aura or seer/detective

[stone timber]

I quite like this buff, however, randomness is discouraged, maybe the first one selected takes priority?

[civic idol]

Quick translation mistake in german, its actully
der Schild, wich means that its kinda wrong. Just very very small mistake but yea

(Möchtest du einen Schild schmieden)
(Willst du 3 pokemosh einen Schild geben, dieser schild wird...)

Because in german der Schild is the shield but das Schild is the road sign

[wind sentinel]

Delete #social-media-ideas from server,its kinda useless tbh. In Instagram they don't even post any of the ideas like last post from the channel was posted on 14th Aug

Or second one maybe try adding smm bc they always make excuses like we don't have smm online or like that

[shut burrow]

suggestions

1. If jelly ww saves a player from a bullet it shouldn't show the message to all the village only to the jelly wolf and in the ww chat

2. If jelly ww saves someone from the vote it should be the traditional fc/gww message

[pallid merlin]

#community-announcements message

Deleting the channel won't happen though

[floral heath]

Violinist suggestion

If the first death of the day was not a villager or a werewolf then the should instead check the player who dies after the solo role on the same day OR treat the solo death as a villager death

[opaque kiln]

Vio suggestion: She should be able to choose the victim to check, similar with morti

[minor spear]

I thought about an interesting change for random roles about informers

Random Regular Informer (RRI)
One of: Aura seer, spirit seer, violinist, gambler, red lady or sheriff

Random Strong Informer (RSI)
One of: Seer, analyst, detective or mortician

[still heath]

He can see the attacker (corruptor)yes but if the attacker die why should we keep the info anymore

[still heath]

I mean let tg die with 0 value info

[woven peak]

As an informer you most likely have to reveal what your role is or it will be revealed by the type of information you're giving

[woven peak]

Did the corruptor flee?
Well, even if that's the case tg did the thing his role is supposed to and he have to die because of that

[trail galleon]

Lol, zombie is the best role EVER, any game I have as zombie is always fun.

Absolute best role, change my mind.

[runic dragon]

If someone is frozen by a blizzard they shouldnt be able to send rose or emojis

[alpine ibex]

I agree, but some people hate it because theres no strategy involved.

Me who wasnt able to convert someone till like day 5 be like:

[hazy wolf]

Replace lootboxes in rose wheel with a bouquet (worth 250 )

many people have expressed unhappiness at recieving lootboxes from spinning the gold wheel, but I don't believe devs will ever replace the lootbox with cards as cards are supposed to be hard to obtain

_ _
bouquets can be used in rose lobbies to get more roses to spin the wheel, or can be used to complete the daily challenge of sending 3 bqts without having to spend 750 coins

[barren grove]

we love german's der die das *cries in german

[wind sentinel]

Then second one

[trail galleon]

Lol, I just won as zombie before, that’s why I suddenly remembered how fun it is.

Since zombie isnt in sandbox

[minor spear]

That's the point, you get a random informer role instead of a pre-fixed one

[old kernel]

Wolf Summoner buff idea

Problem : Wolf summoner right now is quite weak compared to the alpha line. Stubborn wolf has extra life, while alpha wolf provides day coordination. Meanwhile, wolf summoner only allows one safe hit against tg or trap. And yet, the attack wolves did to trigger that trap or waste tg are still wasted.

**Buff :**The buff is simple. Instead of the summoned wolf dying on the beginning of the voting phase. Let the summoned wolf die in the end of the voting phase.

Why? : This would allow wolf summoner to have utility on par with how strong the rest of the alpha line is. The summoned wolf is basically an extra evil vote for one day. Which can turn the tides of some situations.

Since the summoned wolf will die by the end of the day, the summoned wolf would not need to be voted out. So in situations where the wolf summoner and stubborn wolf is already exposed, stubborn wolf would still be better.

And since this ability is one-time use and only lasts for one day, stubborn would still be better in a lot of situations, while wolf summoner excels at others.

Many wolves dead but shadow still alive? In the past. it would be a lost cause and shadow would be a waste. But with the proposed buffed wolf summoner, these situations wouldn't be as dire as before. As the summoned wolf can vote along with the shadow and for the wolves live just 1 day longer.

(Note: alpha's ability isn't really comparable with stubborn and summoner. Alpha's day private chat is amazing, tho it really depends on your team and could be stronger than stubborn if the alpha is amazing at team coordination. So I didn't really compare it.)

[runic dragon]

I think quest to win as or need at least 700xp. Because i think it's harder than win 2 times or and they give 700xp

[astral flare]

Added a system to delete many friends at the same time.

[mint cloak]

add the option to delete or accept multiple friend requests at same time and the option to click on multiple friends at once to delete them from friend list

when you get killed by village as wolf trickster which has trickstered a role already it should say as example village lynched 13 LaraFox (Seer) and not village lynched 13 LaraFox (Wolf trickster)

[cyan barn]

Change sect leader to a base role, and make Bandit/Zombie it's advanced roles...

Now, there's a valid argument for each of these being advanced roles (Bandit is the closest to conventional solo killer, zombie is closer to the other two roles than they are with each other, and SL is easily the most basic of the three)

Zombie easily has the weakest argument for being the base role, since it's arguably the most complex of the three

but Sect leader is by far a better introduction into solo conversion, since it's very basic. Bandit's arguably more difficult, since it's decision on who to convert is a lot more permanent, and since killing is (numerically) less beneficial than conversions. In addition, zombie is much more oppressive in terms of it's potential conversion rate, but has the drawback of nerfing all convertees, and giving them a limited life span

[cyan barn]

Using quotation marks would help get your point across, this is a bit difficult for me to read (but if i understand correctly, then I agree)

[cyan barn]

@mint cloak @random nebula could you explain your distaste for my suggestion

(not mad, just curious)

[mint cloak]

when you think about the bandit sl and zombie the first which comes in mind is a bandit which converts someone as a accomplice the second thing in this situation advanved is sl you convert 4 others to your sect more then bandit can which makes it a advanced and last but not least zombie which could convert all villagers and fool which is an advancement for bandit since bandit can only convert 1 accomplice and only someone else to accomplice when the other acc died which basically makes bandit the base role cause of 1 convert and sl and zombie to advancements from bandit

[cyan barn]

I disagree...

I mean, I know sect has more converts than bandit, but what I mean is that i don't see why that should be the criteria. The whole separation between them is based on which roles are more... basic (for lack of a better term), and which ones are more complex, requiring a better understanding of the game...

Sect is the easiest of the 3 based on what I've played, and seen (unless it's a spineless village, in which case it's zombie).
In addition, it's fundementally... simple, while the others are much less so. with sect, it's just "convert players and don't die"

wouldn't you agree?

[pallid merlin]

That's already in progress as you can see through the link I sent

[mint cloak]

in bandit case it looks more like the amount of converts they can do and not how based it is cause bandit is for me the best base role cause it converts 1 and can kill then

simple and basic

[cyan barn]

but...

it's not?
You have to factor in who you convert, when, how obvious it would be

and the fact that if you convert someone, it means you could be letting medium revive, or doctor save, etc

[mint cloak]

sect is more thinking then bandit

zombie too

[cyan barn]

zombie (since it's nerf) i agree with

not sect tho

[cyan barn]

with sect, the order you convert players doesn't really matter as long as you get them all (excluding wolves ofc)

[mint cloak]

it does

[cyan barn]

not as much as bandit

with bandit, you could potentially have only 1 convert the entire match

[mint cloak]

much more then bandit

[cyan barn]

explain

[mint cloak]

bandit can just convert random someone to kill players with, sect needs to think who would be a good target to get the roles which can be bad for it asap on it's side

[cyan barn]

the decision of 'who to convert' is much more important to bandit than SL since with bandit, you could only be getting the one convert the whole match
and finding out you converted fool, or a weak town role can be devistating to your game, since that means that there could be no chance for you to convert anyone else

SL doesn't really have the same limitaion. There isn't any punishment for a 'bad convert' other than having to wait longer for a 'gppd convert'

[mint cloak]

it isn't

[cyan barn]

I literally just explained how it is

both of them can disable med, it's much harder for bandit to do

same for any other village role

[mint cloak]

we not talk about just 1 role

[cyan barn]

it applies to all village roles

I just used med as an exampe since it's easily the most important in a given game (with very niche exceptions)

Converting fool can have it's advantages, but that's typically only if the fool gets confirmed after vigi/gunner dies, or is out of abilities

[cyan barn]

Simply put:
This argument is invalidated by the fact that both roles can invalidate village's strong roles

And the more protectors you have converted as any convertor, the less likely youll die & the more likely you'll succeed conversions

[mint cloak]

there should be a way to check on the skins you made from what category items are from you used on your skin like the ears or hairs and so on and on for this you could click on the skin and have the parts splitet up with arrows pointing on the parts and by simply clicking on the item again you want to check you get navigated in your inventory to the item you chose

[broken charm]

Trickster WW rebalance

The issue with the trickster wolf is that the village has to practically forget that the role exists in the role list for it to work. Even under ideal circumstances, if a trickster wolf is shown to be lynched by the village and the village wasn't sure who they were lynching then they'll be on guard, and a vigilante can just end any confusion instantly. It's incredibly rare for uncertainty relating to a trickster ww to actually be a deciding factor in a game, the lesser role (shaman ww) is far more useful in most circumstances.

I suggest that the trickster ww's ability is changed. Instead of swapping roles with someone killed by the village, they instead can take the role of a dead person at any time, appearing that way to any checks. They essentially function as a reverse wolf shaman.

This loses the trickster ww the ability to implicate another villager as a ww, but gains them an ability that's useful and more consistent in more situations

[cyan barn]

I disagree

In the hands of a competent player, you can make village kill some VERY strong roles

[broken charm]

The issue is that the stars have to align of the village lynching randomly (wolves can't push it or the village will instantly be on guard once the targeted player objects and it's shown as trickster), and the trickster knowing that the targeted player isn't actually the RK.

Last trickster game I was in the trickster was confirmed as BH because of the seer turned wolf by a kitten ww, and the trickster only lasted a day under intense suspicion because the village immediately became suspicious once they lynched the real BH and they appeared as trickster.

There's a very very narrow window where the trickster works, and their survival depends on factors mostly outside of their control

I think this rebalance would remove that element of chance somewhat

[wind sentinel]

Ok

[somber marlin]

Congrats for killing this game by killing the only game mode that matters, the ranked one!

[floral heath]

come back in 2 days I guess

[steady sluice]

Are you going to add Afro flags to the game? It's World Cup time

[shut burrow]

Its off season thats normal

[blissful sundial]

If it matters so much I wonder how many active ranked players there are compared to sandbox. Hmmm

[pallid merlin]

And do you have any actual suggestion about that? This channel isn't just to rant, it's to be constructive

[runic dragon]

to make upgrading easier, we should be able to tag some cards w smth, it may be like another part to have a difference about upgrade (waste for upg other cards) or save, when we want to upgrade saved ones, we could be able to choose upgrade ones

[stark zephyr]

I "love" to play sandbox with players like 10-35 level. Played a few games and these newbies threw them all. But DEVS need them for "testing". Oh lord, when this will be finally somehow fixed?

[wooden wigeon]

Connection problem?

[runic dragon]

hello I wanted to say that at the end of the game with a wolf and mayor they give victory to the wolves. But mayor votes double so it should be win of the village

[untold wagon]

No

Wws win condition is

To have same person left with the village or have more ww than the village

[mint cloak]

sandbox and advanced should have level 75 or higher as level limitation and ranked level 90 reason for this is cause in this level most people not realy gamethrow that much cause most time low level players gamethrow the most and with level 75 many people have more experience how they need to play and so on and on

[stark zephyr]

This fox is right. Its just so annoying to play this game, when most of the times ur game is thrown by newbies.

Any answer please from staff? @orchid canopy @brazen crow @rancid hill

This game is good, but cause of gamethrowing, its really unplayable.

[orchid canopy]

feedback will be handled one by one. please wait until we reach that message.

[stark zephyr]

1-2 weeks ago i was writing about the same stuff. Nobody replied.

But devs should think about this. If somebody would create similar game like this with more balanced gameplay, a lot of players would leave this one.

[orchid canopy]

Someone indeed replied:
#feedback-readonly message

[somber marlin]

I had in the past, they ignored them.

[somber marlin]

There is a reason why there are no active ranked players anymore.

[somber marlin]

I play from 2018, ranked is worst than ever.

[pallid merlin]

There's been thousands of suggestions and not all of them can be put into the game
But as I said this channel is only for constructive suggestions, so just ranting doesn't fit here

[somber marlin]

The channel is called feedback. Not all feedback is constructive. My feedback is this, your products is bad, I will stop using it for now.

[jade pike]

I agree, Wolvesville requires severe attention. Far too many people get away with gamethrowing and inappropriate activities to make the game enjoyable, which is why I personally can only play for like an hour a day at most.

[pallid merlin]

Seems like you don't get it then
I'm well aware of the channel's name, but I'm informing you of how it is used if you want your feedback to be listened to
Just saying "it's bad" won't result in anything except for a potential rise in your own frustration

[cyan barn]

It's not just 'random'

you should be picking players that are very sus (not just ones you pushed), and be projecting town so that when you inevitably get pushed, people assume that the person that pushed you is wwt

[tight dew]

Y’all really need to make sandbox like level 100+ only

[broken charm]

Crowdsourced report moderation. Let people log in with their Wolvesville accounts to vote on whether reports are accurate. Players can vote 'Legitimate', 'Not Legitimate, and 'Don't Know' on each report. User reports wouldn't be taken at face value, but are rather used to help speed up moderator actions. Multiple people can weigh in on a single report, and a confidence score is generated for moderators regarding how likely the report is to be legitimate. Users who make consistently accurate (ie: consistent with moderators) decisions over a long period of time are weighted more strongly. Reports that are overwhelmingly determined to be inaccurate (bearing in mind weighting) can be discarded without moderator intervention, to speed up moderation. This should be tweaked as required to minimize the number of false reports that the moderators have to deal with while avoiding biased decisions by ensuring that multiple users whose decisions are accurate to moderator decisions weigh in.

^ this has been used successfully by another similar hidden role game to speed up moderation

[jade pike]

Nah, level 25 at least

[somber marlin]

It seems like you don't get it. There was a time when I actually cared and suggested improvements, but I came to the conclusion that this game doesn't care about ranked players. You want only to milk the players. What I say now it's just this. You failed to keep me as a player. I have better things to do with my time. Bye!

[thorn eagle]

yeah all game modes other than quickgame should be locked behind a year worth of levels, new players should not be allowed to enjoy the game

[pallid merlin]

By your own logic, this channel wouldn't even exist. Nor would there have been league reworks again and again.
So again, if you're just here to rant, don't use this channel.

[brazen parrot]

Okay! I will post "split wolf should be able to bind to someone during the day" too. Thanks for your feedback!

[brazen parrot]

The thing is: to be possible lynch headhunter, headhunter should claim (bad idea) or seer should check headhunter (thing that also happen with fool). If fool is discovered "now we know fool, we can random lynch". Same thing as headhunter and anarchist

Anyway, the headhunter and anarchist suggestions look good. I can give it a post. Thanks for your feedback!

[brazen parrot]

We are volunteers and we tried to make our decisions the most objective possible, thinking if that suggestion is viable or not. However, sometimes we have different points of view and we think is more or less viable than other helpers
If I were you and one suggestion I post is rejected and another helper post it in devs channel I would be so frustrated (Hey! That was my suggestion!). And sorry if it happens sometimes 🤷

I rejected a lot of wolf summoner buffs because wolf summoner can rev a werewolf giving an auto ww win or tank the beast hunter trap or tough guy without problem, if we think what alpha werewolf can do to compete against summer I don't see anything really relevant 😄

If you could choose between alpha and summoner, will you really choose alpha the same times as summoner? In my case no.
So buff wolf summoner is not a viable suggestion for me.

I hope I could give a clearer point of view about when I decline or accept suggestions. Have a nice day/night!

[brazen parrot]

There aren't reports in #bugs-readonly talking about don't be able to make tickets. Are you sure you aren't banned from guardian chat?

Hi! That suggestion is already known and it's not necessary post it in #feedback-devs. Thanks for your feedback anyway!

[brazen parrot]

(Maybe is misunderstood your message, tell me if that's the case, please)

Guardians checks every report. If you get fake reported, then guardians won't apply measures against you. If the reports are justified, then you will get the punishment guardians think is fair
Anyway, you can appeal your ban if you think you suspension is unjustified 😄

Hello! And wouldn't not only loudmouth, even vigilante and bellringer be able to reveal again a cursed revealed?

One doubt: is really worth it? Village can try to deduce if the cursed is turned or not, also reveal again a revealed cursed could be considered as a way to gamethrow. What are your thoughts? 😄

Hi! I will give it a post. Thanks for your feedback!

Just to understand your point:

Your clan rush a clan quest and vote along four new avatars for the next quest, however, your clan can't reroll if the current quest isn't complete, having less time to vote

Is that right?

Hi! I understand your point, however, if the talisman shouldn't be consumed because you didn't play as X role, then wouldn't the challenges about win as X role should be cancelled because you didn't play as X role? 😄

The talisman helps you to get the role you want, it's pretty unfortunate die the first night after use a talisman. But I don't think it would be a viable idea.
Thanks for your feedback anyway! 😊

Hi! That is a known issue. It still happening to you?

Hello! I will post it in #feedback-devs. Thanks for your suggestion!

[runic dragon]

Should only be for roles that can turn

And if they intentionally gamethrow just report thwm

[quaint bramble]

I know this really sucks but you can report that ingame + make a report ticket for racism to get it dealt with
what you cant do is post it here since this is not where people get banned (you should delete it, otherwise a staff member will)
nor can they currently improve the censorship more to 'understand' all the extra dots in bad words

[bright thorn]

Izz alr season right ? And why the rank matchmaking still hard ?

[wind sentinel]

I mean like, if i get ban today for 3 days and after then getting ban after 3 months, the ban shouldn't get increased in terms of duration

[fallow gorge]

I don’t know if (and how many times) this has been said but…. I just came back from playing hero (ww) and let me tell you: all three ww were heroes, and we got kicked out IMMEDIATELY. Like day 1. They either lynched us or shot us. It’s not fair. Playing the WW is supposed to be FUN. Every time I get a ww role I just have the biggest urge to leave, because it does not seem to be possible to win unless you have like a really amateur village and even then the chances are low. Have you guys thought about making the WW roles more enjoyable?

[blissful sundial]

Give constructive feedback, “game sucks improve it” doesn’t help anyone

[stark zephyr]

I dont know if i am blind, but the guy above u wrote a bigger thing, than "game sucks, improve it". No fun, cause all wws are leaving - heroes attacking as well.

[mint cloak]

level chest card system suggestion

for every 50 level you get a random rare card instead of a common one

[open junco]

I play a lot more sandbox then quick, and yeah, you can win as ww in sandbox. I'd say 25% of games are won by werewolves (which is nice, since you have 4/16 werewolves).

In quick, nobody lies, or fakes, or really defends themselves when attacked. If you say "I counterclaim X" in quick, you'll get lynched instantly, and if you were honest, then X will get killed during the night. It's mostly luck of not getting found, and finding the med then the doc, then the bodyguard, and then being able to kill seer.

In sandbox, you have rrvs, that allow werewolves to have a better claim then "well in any case it's you or X", because it could be neither ! Making the game simpler makes it harder for werewolves and sk, which are stronger when there is more confusion. They are also a lot more advanced roles, like wolf kitten, which is super strong for werewolves, or ritualist, which allows you to kill seer first night.

Hero targeting isn't great (maybe hero shouldn't be indicated at all for werewolves, just go on and off?) but even before hero arrived, the match was stacked heavily for villagers.

I don't think you can make the game welcoming for new players, and allow werewolves to win 25% of the game. Those are antithetic.

[grizzled atlas]

perk suggestion

add a perk for info roles that can check whether the person they check at the night is shamaned or not (during a shaman ww game)

[stark zephyr]

Thanks for nothing new.

[open junco]

That would be extremely overpowered ! Perks never give you more info then you already could have looked up yourself, or more minor stuff like highlight messages or changing discussion time, or stuff not changing gameplay directly, like perks related to XP and Roses.

[grizzled atlas]

oh ok thanks

[mint cloak]

remove chat stats it isn't something you realy need at any time and just useless in my eyes

[stark zephyr]

I dont mean it bad for u, but a lot of players here are already higher levels which would like to know more info about the game. U dont need to give any tutorials here for newbies, we are just trying to have some fun, like we had a few years ago.

[open junco]

Werewolves and strong villagers tend to speak less then other players, to avoid drawing attention to them. As a seer or a werewolf, that's useful info!

[open junco]

Maybe don't play quick then... Play sandbox, advanced, crazy, ranked! Those are gamemodes made for more advanced players, and while there isn't much people in advanced or in silver league ranked, there are always lots of people in sandbox.

[mint cloak]

most of the time in my rounds they speak alot

so it's kinda useless for me though

[open junco]

Well, if they speak more than average, it's still useful info if they haven't talked at all, too, they haven't claimed, which is a useful info !

[opaque kiln]

suggesting to ban witch and vigil from quick game because it's just used as a throwing tool, makes no use at all

[mint cloak]

make the autopsy report chance like 5 or 6% higher then it normaly is cause you need "2 years" till you can finnaly upgrade it to tier 2 or 3

[stark zephyr]

And who was talking about the quick game?

If u want to help, then do it, but in the right way please and dont talk about stuff which we didnt mention - nobody cares about quick game, except new players.

[open junco]

Well, I did say I found no problem with sandbox, and you didn't deny it, and I am playing sandbox, and that's not happening

[mint cloak]

hero targeting in sandbox is a problem

[stark zephyr]

so u are telling me your sandbox game doesnt have wolves that keep leaving?

[open junco]

nope, it happened once at most

[fair zephyr]

And it is reportable

And please don't flood the channel. You can further discuss this topic in #wov-chat

[stark zephyr]

its not flood - just misunderstanding. My main problem is this @fair zephyr

[fair zephyr]

A helper+ will try to answer you as soon as possible

[stark zephyr]

Btw, what about add another sandbox for higher levels like 150+? It wont be as useless as advanced quick mode is. Maybe just change the sandbox name for something different. Main problem is still - newbies throwing sandbox and destroying all fun from it.

[mint cloak]

this wouldn't solve the real problem since high levels gamethrow too

sure it would solve the problem with newbies but not gamethrowing itself

[stark zephyr]

Higher level dont throw that much as newbies. And its still better idea than do nothing about it

[fallow gorge]

When I posted my complaint I literally came back from the sandbox mode. It’s no different at all in terms of how being a WW just sucks.

[fallow gorge]

Well, I respectfully disagree with this, as the developers are skilled people with the right mindset to do something about the feedbacks, without us having to do the work for them.

[blissful sundial]

What

Just what

[fallow gorge]

Just as a suggestion, have you guys thought about making the lynched villagers anonymous when they die? As in, not reveal who they lynched

[merry spruce]

Hello can I suggest a feature?

[normal wyvern]

Hey, you currently have many ways to receive role cards. In the Battle Pass, you receive/obtain the perk exchange cards which are also needed for the Role cards. Adding Role cards means to reduce/remove somewhere items which might be needed/wanted from the community as well. The developers are looking for ways to gain more role cards. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day. I am sorry for the very late reply!

Hey hey, this is sadly caused by your device and the game size. Where should the setting icon be moved in your opinion?

Hey hey, as you can read in the channel it'll remain closed because they do not have staff to handle it properly and are not looking precisely for this staff to be around there only. The turkish members had multiple chances to behave and multiple members did not use it. The moderators are looking for a solution. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day

Hey hey, they added different challenges to have a different strength in those, they can't be all easy or medium. However, it has been suggested to be able to shuffle the challenges once a day but this is currently up to the developers. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, I totally agree with you that it is currently hard to play with this role but reducing the requirement would be, as Maje explained, too easy. I do think that the best option would be to put them in the random voting role but for testing purposes that's currently not possible. We will see how the developers will decide after the testing phase. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey, I do not really understand your suggestion. Could you please explain it a bit precisely? Thank you!

[mint cloak]

which item?

[normal wyvern]

Hey hey, if you experience bugs, please report them in #bugs-readonly with your device and game version. However, using your own keyboard was suggested and is currently up to the developers. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

[merry spruce]

Just an idea, is it possible that the items from the previous battle pass can be available for gems? Because I missed a lot of the battle pass items, maybe the others and new players too

[merry spruce]

Nvm I misread it

[normal wyvern]

Hey hey, multiple players mentioned that Anarchist is currently too hard to play and might be better with some changes. However, it might be not the best to let them have gunner/vigi count to the Anarchist win condition due trollers and teamers. The developers are looking for a solution. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day

Hey hey, this sounds interesting and I'll give it a post. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, feel free to create those setups and send them to Lisa#6037. They will be tested and added if they work out. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, more players in one game have been suggested multiple times ago and is currently up to the developers. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day

Hey hey, I will add this for you. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, I do not really see a need for this to be added. You already have enough ways to spend money in the game, get icons/gems/... . So for the price having them wouldn't be needed at all. Thank you for your suggestion anyways and have a nice day!

Hey hey, this has been suggested before and is currently up to the developers. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, if you know that this mechanic is already in the game and is not possible for you, please report it in #bugs-readonly with your device and game version before writing it here. Thank you!

Hey hey, thank you for redirecting it. The developers are looking for ways to promote the gamemode a little bit more. This might take some time. Have a nice day!

[opaque kiln]

According to the bww description, nothing says that bh and trapper can protect the victim from frenzy. Suggesting that bh and trapper face the same with other protectors, ww ignore the trap killing the victim and the bh or trapper dies

[tulip mauve]

Hi, can I offer a suggestion? Currently if a player is jailed they cannot be killed by a werewolf or solo, although the CAN be killed by a witch. Can the player be invincible to other villagers attacks as well?

[real hatch]

Hi, may I know why sandbox and advanced games are win-locked and not level-locked?

[floral heath]

the best explanation I can give, levels can obtained through easy means like farming XP in customs or joining BST lobbies which are forbidden, and usually these games won’t count towards your W/L ratio.
so when you do win normally it counts towards your W/L ratio so when you enter these win-locked mode then it must mean say you won 25 games of quick game legitimately

[real hatch]

makes sense. but isn't 25 games a bit small

[terse swan]

Hi Devs, I have a suggestion because lately I've been thinking about maybe getting more rewards for the Xp, there are 2 things I've listed, namely:

1. 10xp+ extra for each ww/solo kill
2. 20xp+ for overall survival at the end of the round
   You're not rewarded for something like that and I think that's a shame...

[shut burrow]

suggestion

You should be able to deselect your bomb during the night you placed it. (If you dont want to kill but you accidentally pressed the screen you cant remove your bomb)

[azure cedar]

I need forky back as rrv possibility 🥺

[ashen sorrel]

I think arso should have this as well

[shut burrow]

Arso has that

you can deselect a douse

[ashen sorrel]

I mean deselect douses after doused

I mean sometime we accident doused and cant deselect it

[warm hill]

Buff anarchist

[shut burrow]

Oh that

[agile grail]

Hey, it was some time ago and there wasn't assasins convention since then that I remember so I don't know. However, you can get used and its playable. Thank you!

[shut burrow]

suggestion

Before your bombs explodes you should be able to move 1 of the 3 bombs to another place that bomb will 5 second before the end of the night. Bombs placed on dead players that haven't exploded can also be moved using this new ability

(could be limited to 1 or 2 uses)

(This buff would make bomber a little bit better to be able to compete with alch and arso)

[normal wyvern]

Hey hey, this has been suggested before and is currently up to the developers. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, FT is currently not available due their unbalance they create in the game. Players used the role to punish players to reveal themself even if they might be good and important to the village. The developers are working on FT but it won't come back currently, as far as I know. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, as I mentioned multiple times already, FT is quite too unbalanced and ruin the gameplay and was highly suggested to be removed and changed. Adding the role in the way it is currently wouldn't solve anything and the community wouldn't be happy about it either. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, I will add this for you. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, this has been suggested multiple times before and is currently up to the developers. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, I will post this for you. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, this issue has been already reported to the developers and they are looking for a solution now. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, this has been suggested before and is currently up to the developers. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, roles do not have to be stronger than their actual base role and I do prefer Analyst over seer because it gives you more space than seer. Not all roles have to be "better" and I think that this change would nerf it while the role is quite balanced. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, this has been suggested before but was denied by the developers because of late game scenarios and players would know who fool is then, which gives them less space to claim. Thank you for your suggestion anyways and have a nice day!

Hey hey, those issues are already reported to Kem and going to be fixed by him already. This takes some time. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, the list from grave robber is outdated and it was highly suggested to change it and make it more balanced. However, this is up to the developers. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, I will add this for you. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, if you experience this issue again, please report it in #bugs-readonly with your device and game version and not here. Thank you.

Hey hey, this has been suggested before and is currently up to the developers. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

[modern flame]

violinist's buff suggestion:

She now can choose one of two latest players who have been killed to check for the next night.
(i dont really understand violinist's mechanic, im just saying my thought)

reason: violinist is becoming really weak, and sometimes, she gives no infomation for the whole game

[normal wyvern]

Hey hey, if I understand you correct the players are confused about the random roles. However, as you discribed and wanted it, it currently is. If the player is not the random role, they will all see the amount except if they are the random role but the role is fixed in the game (e.g. 2 docs). Then the game won't show it to give more space for roles to claim and start more confusion. Changing it won't make sense and gives the bad roles less space to claim then. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, this has been suggested before and is currently up to the developers. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey, I will add this for you. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, I will redirect it for you. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, this has been suggested before but denied because you have to memorize the visited player by your own. If the devs would add this, it would be too easy for RL then to say who she visited the night. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, similar has been suggested before and is currently up to the developers. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, I also think that it is your own responsibility to not let them alive as the last player and to think about possibly consequences then. However tie situations are being discussed and up to the developers. In the end they are a loss for everyone. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, the team is currently updating them. It is on their to do to add some/remove some aspects. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, this has been highly suggested and is currently up to the developers. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, similar has been suggested before but I do not think this would be fair to HH/Fool then. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, this sounds interesting but I do think that it would be better if you decide important things during the night. You have all night to talk and decide. Shadow can be easily solved by seeing the other's vote, which is currently up to the developers. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, please report spamming and encourage the other one to report as well. However, I will post it for you. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

[twilit hollow]

You gonna post it?

[normal wyvern]

Hey hey, those things are up to the developers. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, a trading system has been suggested before and is currently up to the developers. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, I will ask about this. Thank you!

Hey hey, then it would have been everywhere like this which would create more confusion. Usually the players know what to do and do not need a description during the night. 😅 However, it was suggested to have tips during night time, when you have nothing to do but that is up to the developers. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, your description now kinda says that they could place bombs every night, which is definitely misleading then. I do think the current way is fine and if they do not understand it in English, they should try it in their mother tongue or another one they understand. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, to be fair you usually see it what is exactly meant. However, it was suggested before. What do you mean with Assassin? If you mean Accomplice, then it won't be added because roles which need another one to be in the game aren't added there. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

[full stratus]

The role icons pf the battle pass challenges

[normal wyvern]

But why?

hey hey, similar has been suggested before and is currently up to the developers. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

[jade pike]

I think they should still be forced into a team.

Otherwise it would be possible to be used as am XP farm

[normal wyvern]

Hey hey, I will add this for you. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, this has been suggested before and is currently up to the developers. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

[autumn finch]

Thank you for your suggestion! I understand that it is not the easiest thing for anarchist to win; still roles like priest and mm can only use their ability by risking to die which also makes it allowed to mark / water unchecked villagers or to proof who is the real seeing person e.g. with a jww faking a role. So I believe that would make winning for the anarchist too easy. Regardless of that you can vote it here as it's been suggested before: #feedback-devs message

[normal wyvern]

Hey hey, a double vote for this role is already highly discussed and sounds kind of too strong for it especially at day. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

[autumn finch]

You'll need to elaborae your suggestion after resolving your mute. Make sure to specify what changes / suggestions you have and why.

[normal wyvern]

Hey hey, this has been suggested before and is currently up to the developers. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, this has been suggested before and is currently up to the developers. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, this issue has been mentioned already and the developers are fixing it as soon as possible. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

[autumn finch]

What would be the advantage of that? Since it might be used for strategic purposes?

[normal wyvern]

Hey hey, this has been suggested before and is currently up to the developers. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, this sounds interesting and I will add this for you. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

[autumn finch]

There is a suggestion where sorcerer should remain disguised which you can vote for here: #feedback-devs message

[normal wyvern]

Hey hey, is this an actual suggestion from you now? :D

[full stratus]

Because , as I said , some players do not difference which role does the icon belong to

[normal wyvern]

Hey hey, I definitely agree with you and will post it for you. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!7

[floral heath]

sure I suppose, but was unsure since it sounded very powerful

[autumn finch]

Thank you for your suggestion! The general way how things are dealt with are that you can not return items also to prevent people from e.g. just random buying random skins until they like one; you are at all times aware e.g. if you buy a collection that there is no choice and you need to confirm buying items. I think a ticket system of that kind would just encourage more people to try to return items. In urgent cases, you can always send an email to [e-mail] and I believe that is the better alternative so I won't post your idea to be voted.

[normal wyvern]

I meant for the second suggestion ^^'

[autumn finch]

Thank you for your feedback! That has been suggested here already: #feedback-devs message - the post would generally be old enough to post it again - anyways I won't as the devs regulary make votes in #dev-vote on which role is stronger.

[full stratus]

Oh , my bad

[normal wyvern]

It slightly does but is just rare. How about it has to be a limit, like if less than 5 players alive you can't use this as ability? I mean if it's the last day and it's solo vs insti, it can be quite unfair

[autumn finch]

You'd need to be more clear on what specific buff you'd wish to see. Here are some existing NWM suggestion you might want to vote for: #feedback-devs message #feedback-devs message

[floral heath]

thats counter intuitive to why I suggested it in the first place. if recruits are dead its usually over for and if there are over 5 players alive then its unlikely that the game will end in a single day. its sort of a last resort if manages to reach the end on his own

[normal wyvern]

Hey hey, I think this would work out. I will post it for you. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

[normal wyvern]

Yeah, you got the point. I will post the feedback without the limit. Thank you!

[jade pike]

Lm should also be able to tag 2 people, since otherwise the one reveal can wind up being pointless and then that's 1 villager dead for nothing. Not only that, but it would balance the pair out.

[autumn finch]

Thank you for your suggestion - rule questions are better suggested in Mods+ DMs however the rules are generally that we do not allow Discord server invites unless they are vanity links. We don't mind e.g. a link to a yt video by you. If you are unsure if something specifically is fine or not - feel free to send Mmods a DM!

You can share specific advanced setup suggestions in @meager gyro's DMs!

[shut burrow]

I cant see what i suggested. What was the message already?

[normal wyvern]

Well, bellringer doesn't show the role to the whole village while loudmouth does and they are the only one who has to die then which means 2 reveals by 1 death then.

[autumn finch]

Your message was Sorcerer should be able to bypass shaman's enchant effect

[jade pike]

True. Well, does lm have the ability to reveal after getting revived?

[shut burrow]

Oh yeah cause its annoying to see an enchanted player as shaman since youre sorcerer

Wolf seer doesn't see enchanted as shaman so why does sorcerer?

[normal wyvern]

I can't say 100% but I think that was the case, similar like avenger or TG

Hey hey, this has been suggested before and is currently up to the developers. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

[jade pike]

Well if not, my suggestion is that such roles should be able to. Also, witch potion and bg prot should not be used on rl if they visit evil. It gets used and rl still dies.

[untold wagon]

@brazen parrot

[normal wyvern]

Hey hey, this is up to the developers to add it as full gamemode and not the decision of the community. You can vote it for the weekends and the developers will see it. Thank you for your suggestion anyways and have anice day!

Hey hey, this sounds interesting and I will post it for you. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

Hey hey, this sounds like a way to be abused by players with a lots of talismans and is just another way to buy cards with gold which is currently not a way and not wanted by the developers. The developers are looking on a way to get more cards and we will see how the solution will look like. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

[full stratus]

I meanbecause assasin is a role that can only be found in a crazy game , but its still a role

[normal wyvern]

Hey hey, similar like this has been suggested before and is currently up to the developers. However, they do not have a solution yet. Thank you for your suggestion and have a nice day!

[normal wyvern]

Yes, but the roles in the role list are usually in every gamemode and not limited on specific days and gamemode (except president). It could lead to confusion where player think that this role is available everywhere

[full stratus]

That’s why