#Hacker Reporting Thread
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ok i'm going to find them because i feel like it
Zelda920981
Honestly i'm surprised that you found a full lobby to begin with ๐ญ
this is the most skid behavior i've seen
Too big Squid Beakon was here lmao ๐๐๐
Encountered a hacker on the orange team who pained the whole map AFTER the timer ended, didn't manage to get a video and I got no clue who in the orange team it was but here's the log from SDL grabber
There we go I jinxed it
I witnessed a hacker just now, but they weren't doing anything too obsurd other than flying around ๐
In Splatoon specifically
Yeah
I could've recorded it, but it's whatever now
I really need to work on doing that, but usually it'll be too late ๐
You werent playing here right?
I was not playing in this video.
Do you have a PNID who played?
Do I write the PNID of the person who provided the video?
Yes
Unfortunately these are the splatoon reports today
we use the PNID to be able to look up the record of the match in our database. usually the cheater's account, the reporter's account and the rough time of the match are enough to narrow down a specific match
I was able to work this one out without it in this case though, no problem. It's just a lot more time consuming to check
yea no need anymore, thank you for reporting
Banned
Where do i check the PIND?
Second game in a row with him hes just speeding
Sorry for bad lighting im in the car
Open Mario Kart 7
and you can use it by pressing Select
now once you find a cheater, send the PID photo/screenshot
and make sure the mii name is visible in the evidence
Yes
Choose the cheater
and it'll show the PID
Ok thanks ill try entering a game with him again
We didn't mean you in the person specifically, we were talking about someone else doing the same you did. Buy wiius cheat on them and then get them banned.
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You basically got a pattern named after yourself
wait what? i played against him a few hours before earlier than the video was postet and he wasn't doing that ๐ฎ
Was it?
I was mistaken.
My apologies.
I'm always sorry, really.
Could it that's him? I didn't saw him cheating myself but I remember the name
What the hell sonic T. Hedgehog...
Yeah that's him
but that's weird
had him in my lobby around 1AM #1308767621667229780 message they didnt cheat
thats right. he wasnt cheating earlier
Im in mario kart and if i press select nothing happens in game
I am pretty sure everyone accepted the apology
enable the plugin loader through the luma menu (L + Down + Select while either in game or on the home screen) then restart the game (if you did it with the game open)
He's banned btw
Nice, get them outta here.
Let's go!
Im not entirely sure but i think hes hacking
He was ahead of everyone the entire time and you couldnt catch upto him no matter what
Video evidence?
I couldnt take video evidence because once i press select it kicks me out of the game
That's me!
Oh its protection again ๐
Yeah sorry next time ill take evidence
I'm just tryharding but feel free to show evidence
How are you so fast
Spamming SSMTs
Is metal mario gd?
whats that?
Dont tell me you were cheating please
I wasn't of course lmao
Miniturbos on straight lines
Plus that was the first race for me in that room, so I had a coin advantage
you mean snaking ๐
It's called SSMT but yeah
at least i know it as snaking
Why is everyone playing mario?
Can also stream me playing
Good question
please get video proof of the offense. you can use your phone's camera or NTRStream
^
Protection???
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How can i spectate someone mid game?
Ok
skill issue
protection
protection
protection
protection
hiya, would y'all mind keeping "protection" spam out of here? let's try to reserve this thread for cheater reports.๐
got mod and already annoying like one, but yeah sure. sorry about that
tested the session logger a few times, each file was able to be loaded. so I'd assume the pinned version was just a buggy one before i fixed the opening issues
make sure to delete any session log files since old ones definitely won't work
Unpinning the archived one
I will update once i find my 2DS
Nice!
Epic, cool that you might change your mind
As for:
However this time make sure to report bugs or to make suggestions (preferably in the Discord) to keep this project alive. Please respect the work put into this.
you should probably disable github issues then
ah ty, did it in my old one.
np
I have a discord server, I check discord far more, I think issues on Github should rather connect to open sources (which this project isnt anymore)
i merely use GH for downloads now (and release descriptions & UU)
Good idea
Makes sense
@left rivet made you look
Sooo funnyโฆ๐
yeah that's server side for some odd reason. its someone using a code to change the size. @bleak solstice probably knows why
HUH.
WHO THE FUCK
thats a private code
you send 3 rotation values. the Y rotation is just the size for some reason
it stretches it
wow that's massive.
no one knows where this shit is btw, so idk what they did
either they found it by pure chance
code leaked
or someone gave it to them
im not the only one who had it originally
a few others before me found it
tbh that's funny af
if it isnt anything else i probably be laughing my ass off
i used it to block chargers vision on NN. it was intended to be annoying
but it became my thing
giant beakons, a somewhat good position correction, a godmode that was server side (no blinking)
and knockback shenanigans
fairly easy to do, kinda like how mk7 hacking became easy the more u spend time on it :P
wonder how far u can push splatoon hacking tho, sadly never gonna get in taste of it myself
its offtopic so i wont get into it much, but there's a lot you can do with this game. the potential is untapped events that arent documented, since this game's event system is ass.
I JUST FOUND A HACKER
Well i guess my homework will have to do itself, i want to find them
I'M TRYING TO BUT HE'S LIKE PLAYING NORMAL AND THEN HE RANDOMLY STARTS FLYING AROUND AND THROWING 100 BOMBS AT THE SAME TIME
ping me once you have them, as I'm not currently able to play
That will be difficult he just LEAVED ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
that's why a capture device is ideal. but yeah, definitely find some way to record
Give me the Mii name and i will try to snipe them
I record all of my matches, just about, and then if I don't see anything suspicious I'll delete
because each clip can take up to half a gig of space
Btw you should install the new splatoon 2 octoling animations port from game benana
It's just a japanese letter
Just one
Turf or ranked?
YES YES YES
Turf war
I just joined an almost empty match
ping me once the report is uploaded
Damn it. They dced before using hacks. I will save the log but that's all i can do since they didn't cheat in my match
GOD DAMNIT ๐ญ
I guess he's not hacking anymore then ๐ฆ
Maybe he saw this
Send the log just in case
Can be used to identify them in a future report
I will once i can get my laptop to charge
I just experienced a Splatoon hacker for the first time... A user named "ใ" threw infinite bombs during the online game. We somehow still won though.
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LMAO
I mean they kinda deserved that win
YES
LOL THAT'S THE MATCH I WAS IN
(I lost because I didn't play)
I did that once lol
its nice to have the session logger back, thanks main
here is the log just in case ๐ (P1 is the one that other's are claiming that they cheated)
Found a cheater? Did you know anyone can report them and getting them? How?
Join the Pretendo Discord or visit the forum, send video evidence and their PNID! I can also recommend downloading the SDL log to log the entire match, and send the log file with the evidence.
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For some reason that sounds like an advertisment
I saw a dude called "Bruno" in my mk7 lobby, he was speeding and doing a bad job at it, I couldn't get a vid but I'll look for him again
Why are there so many mk7 hackers
That's why I always record when I play lol.
That's nothing
the game is actually chill
you had to check months ago
mk7 was clean for like 2 weeks until now lol
It's not like the time I made 15 reports in one day lol.
during July specifically
you cant be serious what
He is
I am.
Tons of cheaters and trolls
July was FULL of hackers
the game was full of cheaters after NN shutdown
yea the problem used to be super bad, now the worst we get is like maybe 4 cheaters in a day
They all literally moved to here lol.
Any online game have cheaters, all we can do is minimise the issue
Is a constant war
how were bans issued before the pid grabber existed?
On MK7? Probably 2 or 3
ok I'm gonna find bruno
@edgy scroll gg
Also last time I saw them they crashed mid race and took a while to rejoin
damn
Bruno is offline rn
also I can't view the most recent files in session logger it says the file cannot be opened
There was an update.
It should show up now if you update it.
im using the update from Pins but the timestamp doesnt match
PID grabber got updated
I was about to change it but no need anymore
oh wait I see
yes
him
Send his PID
ok I will update the grabber
Ah, they're back at it again.
lmao i love 002-0102
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near the end of the Koopa City race they drove backwards and got CPU'd (disconnected)
Yeah that Bruno
I have their PID logged, just need to record them
awesome
Just post their PID, more video evidence is good anyway.
why does my camera keep curving things lmao
ping me once you have video evidence
but this is very helpful
There's already evidence.
Opponent list still isn't the most reliable (although mine came from session logs and the pid matches so)
oh!
#1231832741612621876 message
yes same mii
great.
No false reports here, book them.
lmao he has 0102 in his friend code
Soon he'll have a 002-0102 forever.
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remember, PLEASE report issues that you find with the latest mk7 PID grabber to @manic dune and be polite about it. it's a free tool, and he has no obligation to work on it.
ye
I honestly kinda want to pin this
in fact
cuz I'd hate for main to cancel the project again.
Oh that's nice
main literally thought everything
If you can, report bugs and suggestions
main wants that
in fact i will play some mk7 tomorrow
I may stream some later. I haven't done it all week.
Hunting for 002-0102s
Yeah.
who is mk7 sigma lmao they aren't hacking but they have 999999 vr
thats me
oh
saw that coming
anyways I'm using spectator mode for now
why was the cpu going backwards ๐
He got hungry needed to grab a snack
forgot to put that in mk7 before someone reminds me
wasnt this mirror mode
Time to destroy.
delete the old files.
How many matches does it store?
Infinite
what bug?
session logger being bugged
that's just cuz y'all didn't update to latest before it shutdown
i was tampering with the inner workings of it, hence old files will never work. delete them, the newest should work (tested them myself a few times)
take opponent pids with caution, added a disclaimer for those scenarios (maybe ask for the reporters pid too)
the rest works just as before
i could ask for friend code alternatively
oh yeah and live view dumping, so ppl can't just escape the next match
yeah true
Oh?
it dumps the live view?
just something to do the clever trick u guys do for mk8/splatoon
no, the session
also, i just noticed the SDL has a session ID
so if someone records somebody they can get the pid right after, not needing to get it manually anymore
mine does too
yeah
oh it's in hex
no, i display it as dec
it is, but for me in the memory viewer lol
well let's hope most if not all issues are fixed now.
Okay that's 199
might add new stuff like coin spy
Meaning we will not report anything as everything works /j
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Oh speedhacker detecting
too many factors play a part in it
reducing risks of falsebanning i assume
That would be awesome.
I think the plugin just broke my sleep mode and home button functionality lmao
time to reboot
also was the luma menu reenabled?
yea the luma menu is enabled again
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#botspam to check error codes. if its in Splatoon though, it is probably due to a low player count or bad NAT
oh, i left the disable function in the source lol
it wasn't meant to be, disabling it again. ty
alright
updated it, removed the disabling home button (was for beta stuff anyway) - actually kept it in, and changed it up again lol & disabled rosalina again.
nice
Never know if I get banned or not
still, use that channel
and no, that code is not a ban
malicious disconnect
rank suggests this is a regular occurance
they also have HAX in their name which is suspicious
He has tc2 in his name. Keep watch if you see him again.
alright, get video evidence and use the SDL plugin in pinned messages
.
i think i might know who
I will keep an eye out for them. This seems to be in ranked, so i will check there.
ill ask on the tamagochi server
there's the chance it could be bad internet though.
If the servers let me
there's one?
i wasen't aware there was.
but does it disable itself AFTER the match starts though?
that's the issue here.
it can be abused for ranked.
it could actually be a good idea to check that via the scene function.
There is a different button combo for it, but you can still dc in game
hm... that's a problem for ranked..
Here it is in action, in a private game with only myself.
I had to use my phone instead of my capture card since I am at my dads house
ah yes, I know this plugin all too well
was it Delus1on who used this to rage quit?
Lol rage quit is crazy
i dont play enough splatoon to know what the point of this plugin is, whats the difference between that and normally disconnecting?
It lets you disconnect at any time, which could be a problem in ranked.
@bold barn congratz on mod
thanks
i made it with the intention of not being abused
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you're still penalized on your rank for using it
i don't think that people who throw in ranked on purpose would care about their rank.
people ALWAYS gotta find a way to abuse anything, i swear to god.
i hope throwers that abuse something intended for QoL get a lovely 102-2812 in their mailbox.
they why you should get a temp ban if you throw your game or DC too much
In ranked you will get banned for throwing
so you guys have changed that now
I remember asking do you get banned for that and one of the helpers said no
I think a mod also said no too
Helpers are not staff
Anyways, we never changed that. Losing on purpose in a ranked match is a bannable offense
Same if you force 3v4s
Indefinite, you can always appeal them
How can you tell if someone has terrible wifi and disconnects or they are purposefully leaving?
I found the PID. Is it still neccessary or too late?
Send it
that can be spoofed but I can still relay it
No. Absolutely no. This could lead to missunderstoods like your console suddenly turning off because of electricity being cut by accident and people thinking you leaved on purpose
well, not always, if you dc once nothing happens
i am talking in scenarios where you DC or throw on purpose
Multiple times
that's where disrupting online experience comes in
Yeah that's bad. But of this gets aproved most people will be banned because of leaving because of spawn campers
If we see 2 accounts staying AFK that's already obvious
We banned for that in the past
Reporting spawn campers should be something
Lol
Banning repeat offenders is a good idea
As always
If we speak about Splatoon spawn camping I think it depends on the mode. In turf war I think it is part of the mode to ink every spot and if you can also the enemy spawn which includes that you need to splat the enemies after they lose their spawn protection. But at ranked it is just annoying and nobody has a good excuse to do that
?
spawn camping is legit a good strategy
in ranked you just need to stall like crazy to do objective
stack qr and trade at spawn is a very good trade imo, and if you do get spawn camped in ranked thats just a whole skull issue
Nintendo itself gives bans for player teams which do nothing else than spawn camping and not care about the objective
there's no justification to be a sc*mbag, spawn camping = bad
It is a legit strategy if 2 or 3 people do that and one transports the rainmaker but not if they do not move the rainmaker at all
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yk i do it to win
idgaf if im a scumbag or not
like why should i care?
sounds pathetic to me, can't win without it? that's more of a skill issue
cant win without killing the enemy
This to be honest
listen to yourself bro
I'd probably crash people like you, incompetent gamers
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lemme try to clear up some confusion:
typically Turf Wars are a little more lax, especially since the goal is to ink as much turf as possible, you can push your opponents back to spawn, if you're powerful enough.
man splatoon players i swear
nahhh bro you cant shit like that and dont play the game
come on
in Ranked matches however, there is no real reason to spawncamp, unless it's to defend from a team that got wiped out in Splat Zones or something
Spawn camping is apart of the game, in ranked many of the objectives are in the SPAWN, so it ends up in spawn camping the only one that isnt is Splat Zones
Exactly what i said earlier
am i not allowed to push???
I seen enough of the game & played in the past, i play enough games that have spawn camping, so yes my opinion still stands and i doubt it's wrong
okey i agree if someone is just running to the other side to try and spawncamp thats just stupid
you can push, it's just that you might not want to hang out in spawn too long in Ranked matches, as it could be seen as trolling.
but pushing objective and then go try spawncamping is good no???
generally speaking
I hope pretendo bans for spawn camping :)
like i play objective ofc, but if youre in their spawn why not try to stall abit?
the only diffrence between ranked and turf war is the in ranked when the objective is done the game ends. In Turf war if you are pushed towards the spawn already 1 minute into the game you have to wait 2 minutes for it to end
im not telling you to put up a tent and campfire
no, it makes no sense. You are telling people they cannot complete the ranked objective?
the loop hole finding is crazy, so desperate?
again, it just depends. if your allies are trying to carry a Rainmaker, you should either help your team or defend. if remaining at enemy spawn for no reason other than to troll, then we have an issue.
same deal with Tower Control.
im not trolling im legit stalling๐ญ
no, but I'm speaking of the unnecessary "I'll stay here and spawn camp" trolling. If they happen to be there by chance and get a kill or two, okay. but to camp there like an idiot seems a bit unnecessary
in Splat Zones is unnecessary i agree, but Tower Control and Rainmaker you have to get into enemy spawn
agreed๐
very true.
that's diffrent
wanted to clarify my point on that, since it seems like i was misunderstood lol
absolutely agreed.
okey your take is actually not bad anymore mb
mb for assuming u did exactly that
i usually call it kill farming
what you mean
and yeah that's bad, and even Nintendo agrees because they ban players over it
i'd say spawn camping in turf war as result of painting everything else is actually worse then Spawn camping in TC or Rainmaker
because if you the enemy team is at that point just 1 minute into the game, they have to deal with it for another 2 minutes
in ranked once the objective is over the game ends
that's a good point. now later on when there's one minute left is much more understandable.
unless by that point your team has weakened.
But if you have nothing else left to ink, I think it is ok to protect you're inked turf
yes but if you ink everything else
where do you go to protect?
the spawn of the enemy
spawn camping is apart of this game Turf War just handles it the worst
pro tip! rush mid in turf๐
that's the entire competitive turf war strat
and yes japan has a competetive turf war scene as stupid as it sounds
Even I rush as fast as possible to the mid
Splatoon 1 is probably the hardest out of the 3 games
unless you are in high level splatoon 3
Weird that I like Splatoon 1 Gameplay the most ๐
because it is the best out of the 3
2 is also really good
my ranking is 1,3 and then 2
Not that 2 has bad gameplay
But I like that 3 has fair weapon sets
A guy named Viggo was hacking Mario Kart 7. He had infinite items and was spamming them.
Splatoon 2s meta is terrible tbh, has repeated the worst mistakes of Splatoon 1, i am just gonna mention: Stingray, 99.9 Damage Bamboo but no Defense Up as hard counter, Baller, Ink Shield, Kensa (Cancer) 52 Gal and so on
killed many of the best weapons
it's a good game, but from end game standpoint it really ended worse then Splatoon 1
What does the pid grabber do should I use it if he comes back online?
it grabs the PID of the player that will be used to ban them
so use it when you see one
true
great, now we need their PID
i like where Splatoon 3 end game is going, i hope they don't fuck it up
I believe the latest version is 2024-12-01
Just installed it
Nice
I recommend trying to match with them if you can
Okay
If you find them again, press select and get the PID, or use the session logger
u can provide the opponent list pid
for now get tgem from the Opponent list
haven't gotten out of bed to push the release yet, lol
makes sense
@manic dune anyway this is how spawn camping should differanciated from spawn camping in splatoon:
"spawn camping" - in splatoon is an end result of the winning team nowhere else to go
"kill farming" - in splatoon is intenionally rushing spawn or stalling the objective from finishing to get more kills
kill farming is bad while spawn camping is an end result of the game design
okay updated
i am surprised you are using the US date format on github
the home button issues should be gone now, I'd assume a callback of the menu didn't trigger properly
at least ISO-8601 is used on the plugin
that's just cuz the community is mainly american
It's fine as long ISO-8601 is on the plugin imo
once you send that screenshot, go ahead and update your plugin. it'll be updated fairly frequently.
I'll also relay your report (once we have the PID). thanks for helping make Pretendo a safer place for everyone!
-# no this is not scripted.
wish the 3ds supported tls v1.2 ๐
can't make an auto updater due to it, and 3ds curl (libcurl 3ds version) doesn't work well with ctrpf
3DS supports TLS 1.1 correct?
rip
else we'd have an auto updater by now already
@stuck marsh & I tampered around with it
another solution would be to make a homebrew app just for the plugin which is dumb
@misty sandal mind if you relay the report?
Lol a hacker named viggo? PietSmiet reference? ๐ค
it's fine since i have to log the cheaters
it's fine use session logger
Is it in my sessions?
If you played with them again yes
press on session logger, go to View Files and it should have 1 file there (or 2), one was the live view and one is the normal session. both should contain the person's name, press on the name and send a screenshot of that content
point is kill farming can be an bannable offense (even Nintendo bans it!) but most people dont know the diffrence between the two, soo it's hard to make reports.
Proper rules of what is bannable and what isnt would help
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Good. I have the last one tomorrow.
nice ๐
Because Opponent List is spoofable so the plugin cant know
But now just play with this plugin and anytime you report just go to session logger and get the PID
opponent data doesn't have anti spoof checks. and if i add a method to always only save clean pids, it also won't be able to distinguish between both, since opponent data only stores 1 pid.
i think its also an issue playing without the plugin
and then checking later
that too, any prior saved opponents are always at risk for spoofs
no way to know the real PID correct?
So I basically have to grab live?
or use session logger later
only if i add something to clean it, but since it'll always be a false positive i might leave it out.
just take them with caution
merely added it back since it's at least something ppl can work with if they can't match up with them anymore
session logger is what everyone should use
MK7 Stat page when xD
eta soon
Ok I don't use the MKW stat page as well because of mkw-ana.
once we understand how to fetch all active play sessions, displaying everyone's pid and other information per room. but that'd also pose a very bad vulnerability for the playerbase since those connections include people's ips etc too
This
i was meaning to try it out but i don't have time to do that
plus such method could be abused with several game exploits
such as stream sniping/harassment/auto crashing/more
Did I give the right info?
yes
Yep, the cheater can be banned once one of the network moderators is available
It's actually clean enough, a few cheaters can still appear
Recently we are getting a few Mario Kart 7 cheaters but they are getting banned
I'm glad the game is slowly but surely getting cleaned up
We had 5 days in a row without a report
i hope ppl continue reporting suspicious behaviour, since it'll help ppl like me to know if they used rather rare exploits or any of that kind
since i feel like that stuff will come back to mk7
hyped for Pokรฉmon tbh
u guys could filter gts cloning very easily and very robust
but I'll see if that's even needed once it releases to public
I don't report everything. Small trolls or so I don't report. Or driving backwards.
I mean if the community doesnt report no one is cheating
since there are some active players reporting almost every day
The main reason is... I'm too lazy to record lol
It's not like MKWii where I stream everything and have it recorded there.
Capture card?
Yes
I can. Would be a usecase for my XL.
really expensive tbh
New 3DS XL capture card would be awesome
Yeah sadly
NTR CFW exists for that
they were expensive even back in the early days too iirc
yep Numero could try that
the mod is insane complex, and i would only let it handle a trusted modder
Just the card correct?
And USB-C Charging Mod.
I might do it next year.
And NTR Streaming doesn't work here.
It's heavily lagging and only in 144p smooth.
Although I haven't tested it here with this new computer and the new network switch.
no spawn camping when having that possibility = leading ur team to a possible lose
thats just how the game works ๐คทโโ๏ธ
poor excuse, if we talk about how a game works, any exploits are fine to use too
did u try the Hz mod?
poorer excuse:
i dont see an excuse there? its an reaction to ppl not knowing how to play properly lol
i see it as an excuse to not liking a game strat
now stop making a fool of yourself, average splatoon player: crying about unfair mechanisms being disallowed because you cant win otherwise or cheese out a quick win
lol
thats an issue on your part
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didnt u get banned on mk7 on purpose
oh okay i must be confusing u with someone else
no i was just curious
i just think spawn camping as described earlier counts to trolling
it'd be stupid for pretendo to ban it anyway
Does slowing down to hit people with shit in MK7 to keep your lead count as trolling?
which mode
Racing lmao
I don't think so. I was using the regular NTR CFW.
like do u not slow down with a starโ to hit people, so you can keep being ahead of the game.
that yeah, but i think its good if they warn people for doing it all the time. ik its a strat, but dont just camp there all game & bully the enemies
if you slow down to gain lead advantage is not trolling, if you do it just to disrupt the game and be annoying, yes
that i do have to agree with
Ah, I heard its a lot better (on new3ds/new 2ds though), it maintains better framerate etc
i told you theres a diffrence between intenially kill farming and spawn camping in this game. Ranked modes like TC and Rainmaker literally force you into enemy spawn. It WILL end in spawn camping then game wants it to end in spawn camping. And for turf war at some point a stronger team will have painted everything has nowhere to go
btw it's up to the developers to define that when in doubt, also eventually we will get a better banning system
there is stuff that are not worth permabanning for
well whatever is just to be annoying should be punishable
also we will probably add custom error messages to the official ban error codes
the official Nintendo messages are vague
i was wondering if status effects in mk7 are bannable, i remember someone used perma ink without issues, what about spazzing? lol
i agree
that's a poor excuse for something who doesnt play the game
Spawn is right next to Tower Control finish
you are literally telling players TC and Rainmaker modes are banned lol
also we have to change that PNID bans are 102-2802 and not 102-2814, shutterbug2000 filed a GitHub issue for it
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oh and turf war too
It was even a nightmare making NTR running on Luma3DS xD It was years ago btw...
with your fast internet you should be fine
Itโs very weird to define trolling in MK7 โ even though I do play CTGP-7 a lot, people who play aggressive in the game usually do shit like that to keep lead etc
no? im saying whichever camping is for being annoyin should be punishable, if thats a strat there & required to win, I dont see why it would make sense to punish it.
also miss me with that "someone who doesnt play the game" shit
you can't ban something the game intent that to be
Game is heavily RNG based and if youโre targeting a player to knock them out of top 4 I donโt see the issue personally but I will respect it.
btw trolling is not really an issue anymore in MK7
its not intended in every mode
literally on Splat Zones
we had a moment where several Japanese players were here just to disrupt online experience by hitting players with stars and going backwards
did the jpn players give up?
you could find even 3 of them in one match
Imagine having 2.5G LAN and NTR doesn't work lol
yep finally
every other mode will end in spawn camping if one team is obv winning.
i remember they were on ctgp7 in the past
Rainmaker forces you to get the rainmaker into spawn. and in Turf war if you painted everything else you literally can only go the enemy spawn
some kept formatting their 3DS and still seeing the ban lmao
๐คทโโ๏ธ we'll leave it up to the devs to decide which type of camping is ok & which isnt
i will ping quarky for this convo
take your time to discuss this internally
i am not a splatoon player so i can't say too much
i dont think rushed answers help
yup
i agree that intentionaly rushing spawn or stalling the ranked objective to farm kills is bad
thats the type i want punished, yeah
btw do you play splatoon?
just curious
I used to
but i specifically dont call that spawn camping i call that kill farming
I think trolling shouldnโt even count in MK7 cause like.. is such a chaotic game.
Also kill farming is. As someone who doesnโt play splatoon.. a way to gain turf.
Keep them from Yknow spawning and keep letting your teammates gain turf
we did already issue bans to trolls in the past
you had no idea what was happening lmao
stream sniping players, lap trolling and so on
yeah mainly the stream snipes are where the issues come from
we're talking about literally not painting the map and rushing to spawn and just kill players
and we targeted obvious trolling behavior
so if you slow down strategically to win you are fine
or getting the objective one 1p away from finishing then just kill players at spawn
People stream snipe in MK7??
i agree on that too, hell Nintendo does punish it in SP3 too.
what i am saying you cannot ban the type spawn camping the game wants you to do at some point
man why are we still on this spawncamping, theres a difference between rushing spawn put up a tent and camp and legit push up and frontline, if you succeed youll get to their spawn and can then ยซspawncampยป
i think we can all agree on that
hopefully
I gave two definitions on the two different types:
"spawn camping" - in splatoon is an end result of the winning team nowhere else to go, from either painting the entire map or following the objectives path
"kill farming" - in splatoon is intenionally rushing spawn or stalling the objective from finishing (mostly very shotly before finishing line) to get more kills
And they were completely ignored
wherever its annoying or not shouldnโt mattes cus then we should just delete the game cus its shit
find people that actually plays the game pls and discuss it with them too๐
quarky played splatoon
I mean, there's no problem with entering the spawn area and killing people for like 30 seconds. BUT THERE IS WHEN YOU ARE LITERALLY THE WHOLE 3 MINUTES THERE WAITING FOR ME TO APPEAR TO JUMP ME WITH A TEAM OF 4 PEOPLE ๐ญ
yeah, that's what i usually referred to. apparently called kill farming tho
i know but one person is not enough imo, youll need many more
I mainly refer to it as kill farming, as it's more accurately what the player does. Death doesn't matter as much in splatoon, so they only do it for high kill counts
The end result is the same, the difference is the circumstances it comes to that
are we getting monthly ban stats again
No ETA on the answer to your question
Is it a bad idea to atleast involve opinions from people that regularly play the game? It is a community project to some extent too.
it's not, opinions from splatoon players are fine
make sure its the same race next time
a video recording of one race with no names at the bottom screen and then a picture of an entirely different race doesn't tell us anything. it could be two entirely different people for all we know.
neither of these should be banned
they are legitimate gameplay techniques
in fact, kill farming is 50% of the ranked objectives because by keeping the enemies dead you allow your team to score the objective more
what should actually be banned is team griefing which is when your teammates intentionally sabotage the match in a way that cannot be confused with a legitimate game strategy
True
I kind of meant that by intentionally not finishing objective just to farm kills
no, i meant literally sabotaging the game by doing things like abusing collisions to throw people off the map
besides that, i was mainly talking about rainmaker
because from my experience, sometimes people get mad about their teammates and intentionally pick up the rainmaker to bring it back to the spawn point to prevent their team from scoring
besides that, i dont think any form of kill farming should be banned for the reasons i described above
what constitutes kill farming is also a highly subjective topic
I was specifically talking about the idea that an entire squad gate the objective right before finishing and then keep killing the players without attempting to finish the objective. It could also be considered a form of trolling
i do not even consider that an illegal game strategy
this would also make a contradiction in other legitimate game strategies
for example, if that were considered trolling, would squidbagging also be considered trolling?
would you punish people for simply spamming the zl button?
is there any evidence to support that
Need to pull it up
Was a long time ago i seen some people claming getting banned because of this
i know that s3 has a general rule for trolling but i cant imagine it would be for squid bagging or spawn camping
Something like this apperantly has been punished by Ninty
Gatekeeping the objective from finishing even tho they 100% able to just to kill players more
i actually did this strategy back in nn for s+ many times because it was a safe option for winning games
Trolling is a catch-all for stream snooping
for example, if we have 80 points in rainmaker, regardless of the points the enemy team has, as long as they do not get more points than my team i have no reason to push for a knockout
Sniping* and griefing
if i am not playing for the objective, the only other thing i have to do is spawn camp
If you spawn camp it isnโt an issue unless youโre cheating cause theyโll eventually break their way out of it. But thatโs my take
Never been in high rank so idk. The way i view ranked is you have objective and if you somehow can finish it you should.
And not gatekeep the goal from finish if you like 1 point away from doing so
no, thats not a general rule
many times, depending on the team composition, its better to just stall the game instead of going for a ko
and it depends on the situation of each match
I know
If i know i cannot get a K.O i will try stalling too
What i mean if i know i am 100% in the advantage and can K.O. then just not doing it just get more kills
in that case, once again it would be a highly subjective topic since when you have a 100% advantage is highly subjective by itself
I think trolling is too subjective to be a rule.
But itโs also a catch-all for griefing and stream sniping right? @misty sandal
also, you cannot expect every player to have the mindset of a top player and know when you have a clear advantage and when you dont
this is only a rule that can be applied to tournaments with a limited amount of people and not the service as a whole
Fair
Yeah it's kinda difficult
wow finally someone understands that killing someone means stalling the game๐
Hey i get it to ๐
Also javi
Mkw is clean because thereโs an anti-cheat on wiimmfi
if you intentionally disrupt a ranked game then yes it's bannable (idling, throwing the match by doing nothing, transforming games in 4v3 or 4v2 for no apparent reason and so on)
that we know
Yeah but Iโm saying like
whats yall take on ยซspawncampingยป
Why does killing people in .. yeah
for spawn camping we will talk about that internally
Itโs a shooter game and some people play differently
and forwarding the opinions
And usually people can break out of it but is my take
there is nothing to talk about because if you actually banned people for that you would be banning people for a legitimate game strategy
^
this is not the same as stream sniping
Also if it is decided I should note I donโt play Splatoon
a reminder i dont play splatoon so i actually don't know what spawncamping can cause in Splatoon, but if it's a strategic play, it might not be bannable
Nor have a Wii U
Spawn has a bubble from what I remember when I did own. A Wii U.
It very much is a strategic play
Spawn and example Tower Control finish line
Literally a next to each other
How is this not supposed to end in spawn camping
if people think spawn camping is annoying wait till they find out about the quick respawn jump chains all the way back in s+ nn
if you execute one correctly its impossible for the chain to be stopped
tower control in this game is fundamentally broken
they keep jumping to the tower its annoying
in fact, when i first started playing splatoon, i got s+ in a week just by abusing qr
stalling the kills๐
I know the QRSJ Cheese in splatoon
by the way, most people think that the extra delay of the stealth jump is a nerf but its actually a big buff
the extra time it gives in between each jump makes the jump chain even more effective
Oh absolutely
I have seen videos about it
I actually never wanna do this
You have to kill them delayed in order to break the chain
it still can but you have to win the lottery now for that to happen
Old Splatoon 1 was something else
like, i mean netcode lottery\
Like with Splashdown cancel in splatoon 2
Move Splatoon talk generally to a thread or shit like that.
we are technically still discussing the topic at hand so its not off topic
Is not related to hacking or breaking rules by just talking bout Splatoon.
but anyway, going back to the original topic if it actually got banned that would be stupid
Yes
And discussing it "internally" isn't helping, how about you involve actually the players what their thought is.
i think the majority of the people here cant even spawncamp properly, its not just swimming to spawn. you gotta time at and find a good position and all that
people think its liks qrsj
spawncamping its not cheese in any way
you actually need skills to do it
give me a slosh and a good position at their spawn and you get free ๐ง
Very true
counter argument: stalling the jumps
counter argument: not stalling the jumpkills cus you know theyre stalling the jumps๐
if you think about it, you dont need every single team member to participate in the jump chain
you can have 3 members doing the jump chain, and one additional player in case they delay their kills
if they start delaying the kills, the other player deliberately delays their jump
either way very hard to coordinate in a real match
better off just jumping as fast as you can
and maybe try to delay it here and there
to be fair at least spawn camping here isn't AS BAD as splatoon 3 specifically
since no spawn barriers exist in that
I mean, technically you spawn and launch on/from a drone, and if you're just launching to spawn area you get Ink Armor briefly
that actually better btw
because you are briefly invincible while being able to fight
while the spawn barrier doesnt help you with long range weapons
P4 PID: 1615516977, Name: ใ, Area: 16777216, Index: 4, Gender: 1, Skin Tone: 2, Eye Color: 2, Weapon Set ID: 3000, Main Weapon ID: 400, Sub Weapon ID: 2, Special Weapon ID: 2
Tv view randomly got deleted but theyre on places that arent even possible to be in
I feel like I remember hearing about this player?
I'll try to find them
yeah, i do. I think i ran into them yesterday but they dced before they turned on hacks
YES
IT'S THE ONE I FOUND YESTERDAY
#1231832741612621876 message pretty sure its the same PID
should be evidence for a ban
think you can swim on that side thingy
but nevertheless i think he just flew there๐คทโโ๏ธ
Other pic he is behind that
ah i see
ye
there isnt even a side thing at the spawn playform either way
im tripping hard๐
those screenshots should be valid enough for a report. but that is really up to mods and admins
it's probably ban worthy
oh yeah, that's definitely a cheat
impossible to get up there without cheats
we've relayed it and this offender will enjoy a nice shiny 102-2814.
they should create a separate matchmake for cheaters only, lol
New Network (similar to newwfc)
lmao
an alternative to Pretendo would work
cheaters against cheaters. somehow now i want to see who would win ๐
Cheetah
Newtendo
posting this here in case someone remembers the previous rotation, but someone was probably forcing certain stages when they weren't in the rotation. currently compressing
well then. SDL Grabber decided it wasn't going to grab a single PID across several matches I've played today.
When was this match played
the time
let's move this to #discord-mod-chat
It was those particular Japanese people.
I was one of people that made myself a target on purpose to get trolled. Those fucking idiots took the bait and got banned. Those also thought formatting their systems would bypass the bans as well. Turns out that isn't the case, the whole system gets banned and there's no way to bypass it. So in other words, they would have to keep spending money to play online anymore. They haven't showed up in a few months now because they're probably scared we'll get their asses again lol. That's deserved if you're going to ruin the experience for others.
they should've made the sub region washington dc
0529-4478-3100
Bruh, another idiot.
probably not the wisest choice
I mean, yeah, that presidency ended almost 8 years ago
but still
Alright
Got a Splatoon hacker report coming up. Will try to aim for in the next few minutes
Oh shoot. Now i am not actually sure who is the one hacking
Ok wait nevermind they made it obvious with no points hack, just realised i was about to report the wrong person
Reason for report: Offender was spamming burst bombs, and used burst bombs before the match started (but I didn't catch that part in the video)
Hackerโs PID: P5 PID: 1615516977, Name: ใ, Area: 16777216, Index: 5, Gender: 1, Skin Tone: 2, Eye Color: 2, Weapon Set ID: 3000, Main Weapon ID: 400, Sub Weapon ID: 2, Special Weapon ID: 2
Hackerโs PNID: UNKNOWN (Player history did not get that again)
My PID: P4 PID: 1184464539, Name: SLโ
๎งBread๎, Area: 822083584, Index: 4, Gender: 1, Skin Tone: 1, Eye Color: 0, Weapon Set ID: 1042, Main Weapon ID: 138, Sub Weapon ID: 0, Special Weapon ID: 2
My PNID: Mariostriker124
at first i thought it was them ๐ญ luckily i caught it though
Splatted by ink from a Propeller
another tamagochi user.
hm...
Btw it was the level 5 cheating. They have been reported before
And Wasabi doesn't have burst bombs, but Slosher does
Np. I was โCallieโ with music notes
Lol certainly. I havenโt seen a hacker in a while tho so this was juicy
I also reported them. Thanks for the PNID though
Cool beans
I also played with the hacker earlier, TC2 or something. I noticed that his walking speed was slightly faster with no walking speed abilitiesโฆ. Nonetheless I squid bagged him and WON B)
warawara.lzh
Sure it's not an L? lzh?
Thank you. I kinda just woke up
Another cheetah, relaying.
He making other player console dying ๐
It's so funny to do this with friends, everyone have cheats in a pb and the game runs at 2fps
But yeah in public it's just annoying and not funny
233 NANDs now?
Wii u : PLEASE HELP
cemu with rtx 4090 : idc
Yes lmfao
Anyways chearers are annoying
Bru i can play tetris on my gameboy
Most stable Nintendo experience
U 3ds is fine
||when are you going to uptade your 3ds||
Next raid xD