#Hacker Reporting Thread

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jolly jetty
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damn. well i can help them get 002-0102 or 102-2812 if they need help with it

sand cedarBOT
smoky star
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5341-1165-5118

languid musk
jolly jetty
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ok i'm going to find them because i feel like it

smoky star
strange latch
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Honestly i'm surprised that you found a full lobby to begin with ๐Ÿ˜ญ

stuck obsidian
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this is the most skid behavior i've seen

inner pawn
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Too big Squid Beakon was here lmao ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

pale grotto
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Encountered a hacker on the orange team who pained the whole map AFTER the timer ended, didn't manage to get a video and I got no clue who in the orange team it was but here's the log from SDL grabber

misty sandal
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There we go I jinxed it

languid musk
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Sonic with two question marks

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I wouldnโ€™t trust him

tawdry parrot
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I witnessed a hacker just now, but they weren't doing anything too obsurd other than flying around ๐Ÿ’€

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In Splatoon specifically

languid musk
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In a multiplayer match?

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Kill them.

tawdry parrot
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Yeah

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I could've recorded it, but it's whatever now

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I really need to work on doing that, but usually it'll be too late ๐Ÿ’€

misty sandal
languid musk
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I was not playing in this video.

misty sandal
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Do you have a PNID who played?

languid musk
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Do I write the PNID of the person who provided the video?

misty sandal
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Unfortunately these are the splatoon reports today

languid musk
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I'll check.

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By the way, why do you need a PNID?

cursive tangle
# languid musk By the way, why do you need a PNID?

we use the PNID to be able to look up the record of the match in our database. usually the cheater's account, the reporter's account and the rough time of the match are enough to narrow down a specific match

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I was able to work this one out without it in this case though, no problem. It's just a lot more time consuming to check

misty sandal
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yea no need anymore, thank you for reporting

misty sandal
sudden sparrow
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Where do i check the PIND?

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Second game in a row with him hes just speeding

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Sorry for bad lighting im in the car

misty sandal
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it's on universal updater

sudden sparrow
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Ok

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I downloaded it now where do i go?

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Its not in my home menu

misty sandal
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and you can use it by pressing Select

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now once you find a cheater, send the PID photo/screenshot

sudden sparrow
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Ok thanks

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So i press select in game?

misty sandal
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and make sure the mii name is visible in the evidence

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Yes

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Choose the cheater

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and it'll show the PID

sudden sparrow
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Ok thanks ill try entering a game with him again

cold chasm
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What? Why me?

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I haven't been using WiiU lately.

slender zephyr
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We didn't mean you in the person specifically, we were talking about someone else doing the same you did. Buy wiius cheat on them and then get them banned.

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Full context: #1231832741612621876 message

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You basically got a pattern named after yourself

lyric shard
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wait what? i played against him a few hours before earlier than the video was postet and he wasn't doing that ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

cold chasm
lyric shard
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Could it that's him? I didn't saw him cheating myself but I remember the name

languid musk
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What the hell sonic T. Hedgehog...

slender zephyr
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but that's weird

lyric shard
sudden sparrow
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Im in mario kart and if i press select nothing happens in game

slender zephyr
normal iron
astral cairn
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Nice, get them outta here.

misty sandal
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yea, all cheaters reported until now are banned

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Also, November stats coming later

astral cairn
sudden sparrow
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Im not entirely sure but i think hes hacking

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He was ahead of everyone the entire time and you couldnt catch upto him no matter what

jolly jetty
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Video evidence?

sudden sparrow
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I couldnt take video evidence because once i press select it kicks me out of the game

stuck marsh
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That's me!

jolly jetty
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Oh its protection again ๐Ÿ’€

sudden sparrow
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Yeah sorry next time ill take evidence

stuck marsh
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I'm just tryharding but feel free to show evidence

sudden sparrow
stuck marsh
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Spamming SSMTs

sudden sparrow
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Is metal mario gd?

lyric shard
misty sandal
stuck marsh
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I wasn't of course lmao

stuck marsh
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Plus that was the first race for me in that room, so I had a coin advantage

lyric shard
stuck marsh
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It's called SSMT but yeah

lyric shard
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at least i know it as snaking

sudden sparrow
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Why is everyone playing mario?

stuck marsh
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Can also stream me playing

stuck marsh
bold barn
# sudden sparrow

please get video proof of the offense. you can use your phone's camera or NTRStream

stuck marsh
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^

bold path
stuck marsh
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๐Ÿ›ก๏ธ

sudden sparrow
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How can i spectate someone mid game?

stuck marsh
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You need the PID grabber

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Enable the camera spectate feature

sudden sparrow
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Ok

languid musk
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protection

stuck marsh
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protection

nimble wing
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protection

normal iron
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protection

bold barn
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hiya, would y'all mind keeping "protection" spam out of here? let's try to reserve this thread for cheater reports.๐Ÿ˜‰

manic dune
bold barn
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no worries

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-# lol

manic dune
bold barn
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yooo

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that's epic

manic dune
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tested the session logger a few times, each file was able to be loaded. so I'd assume the pinned version was just a buggy one before i fixed the opening issues

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make sure to delete any session log files since old ones definitely won't work

misty sandal
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Unpinning the archived one

jolly jetty
stuck marsh
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Nice!

slender zephyr
slender zephyr
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np

misty sandal
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Wait i am confused

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why disabling issues

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Just to keep everything on Discord?

manic dune
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I have a discord server, I check discord far more, I think issues on Github should rather connect to open sources (which this project isnt anymore)

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i merely use GH for downloads now (and release descriptions & UU)

stuck marsh
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Good idea

misty sandal
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Makes sense

magic plank
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@left rivet made you look

left rivet
dull nimbus
bleak solstice
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WHO THE FUCK

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thats a private code

bleak solstice
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it stretches it

bold barn
bleak solstice
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either they found it by pure chance
code leaked
or someone gave it to them

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im not the only one who had it originally

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a few others before me found it

slender zephyr
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if it isnt anything else i probably be laughing my ass off

bleak solstice
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i used it to block chargers vision on NN. it was intended to be annoying

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but it became my thing

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giant beakons, a somewhat good position correction, a godmode that was server side (no blinking)

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and knockback shenanigans

manic dune
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wonder how far u can push splatoon hacking tho, sadly never gonna get in taste of it myself

bleak solstice
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its offtopic so i wont get into it much, but there's a lot you can do with this game. the potential is untapped events that arent documented, since this game's event system is ass.

languid musk
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I JUST FOUND A HACKER

bold barn
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you know the drill

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expose them

jolly jetty
languid musk
# bold barn you know the drill

I'M TRYING TO BUT HE'S LIKE PLAYING NORMAL AND THEN HE RANDOMLY STARTS FLYING AROUND AND THROWING 100 BOMBS AT THE SAME TIME

bold barn
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ping me once you have them, as I'm not currently able to play

languid musk
bold barn
jolly jetty
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Give me the Mii name and i will try to snipe them

bold barn
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I record all of my matches, just about, and then if I don't see anything suspicious I'll delete

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because each clip can take up to half a gig of space

languid musk
languid musk
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Just one

hallow igloo
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ใ‚

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?

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Is it this one?

jolly jetty
languid musk
languid musk
jolly jetty
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Found them (maybe if they are level 5)

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Will record

languid musk
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I just joined an almost empty match

bold barn
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ping me once the report is uploaded

jolly jetty
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Damn it. They dced before using hacks. I will save the log but that's all i can do since they didn't cheat in my match

languid musk
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I guess he's not hacking anymore then ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

bold barn
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there's a small chance they're on this Discord server

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but who knows.

languid musk
misty sandal
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Can be used to identify them in a future report

jolly jetty
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I will once i can get my laptop to charge

bold barn
misty sandal
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LMAO

ionic kayak
languid musk
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LOL THAT'S THE MATCH I WAS IN

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(I lost because I didn't play)

misty sandal
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Let me remind people to report cheaters

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On Juxt

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Never did before

jolly jetty
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I did that once lol

normal iron
jolly jetty
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here is the log just in case ๐Ÿ™‚ (P1 is the one that other's are claiming that they cheated)

bold barn
jolly jetty
edgy scroll
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I saw a dude called "Bruno" in my mk7 lobby, he was speeding and doing a bad job at it, I couldn't get a vid but I'll look for him again

languid musk
astral cairn
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That's why I always record when I play lol.

misty sandal
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the game is actually chill

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you had to check months ago

languid musk
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mk7 was clean for like 2 weeks until now lol

astral cairn
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It's not like the time I made 15 reports in one day lol.

jolly jetty
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during July specifically

languid musk
misty sandal
astral cairn
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I am.

misty sandal
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Tons of cheaters and trolls

languid musk
misty sandal
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the game was full of cheaters after NN shutdown

normal iron
astral cairn
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They all literally moved to here lol.

misty sandal
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Any online game have cheaters, all we can do is minimise the issue

languid musk
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Is a constant war

misty sandal
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they will get banned

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and no more Pretendo

languid musk
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how were bans issued before the pid grabber existed?

misty sandal
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On MK7? Probably 2 or 3

edgy scroll
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ok I'm gonna find bruno

misty sandal
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it was hard because, mii name cant help

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and spoofers

nimble wing
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@edgy scroll gg
Also last time I saw them they crashed mid race and took a while to rejoin

edgy scroll
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Bruno is offline rn

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also I can't view the most recent files in session logger it says the file cannot be opened

astral cairn
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It should show up now if you update it.

edgy scroll
misty sandal
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PID grabber got updated

normal iron
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was it this bruno?

misty sandal
edgy scroll
misty sandal
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Send his PID

edgy scroll
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ok I will update the grabber

astral cairn
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Ah, they're back at it again.

misty sandal
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lmao i love 002-0102

sand cedarBOT
edgy scroll
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near the end of the Koopa City race they drove backwards and got CPU'd (disconnected)

nimble wing
normal iron
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awesome

astral cairn
edgy scroll
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I still can't view the files

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I updated

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oh opponent list is back so heres his pid

nimble wing
edgy scroll
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why does my camera keep curving things lmao

bold barn
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ping me once you have video evidence

bold barn
astral cairn
nimble wing
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Opponent list still isn't the most reliable (although mine came from session logs and the pid matches so)

bold barn
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oh!

astral cairn
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#1231832741612621876 message

bold barn
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thanks

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relaying now

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wait

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are y'all 100% certain that this is the same Bruno?

edgy scroll
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yes same mii

bold barn
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great.

edgy scroll
astral cairn
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No false reports here, book them.

edgy scroll
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lmao he has 0102 in his friend code

astral cairn
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Soon he'll have a 002-0102 forever.

sand cedarBOT
bleak solstice
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remember, PLEASE report issues that you find with the latest mk7 PID grabber to @manic dune and be polite about it. it's a free tool, and he has no obligation to work on it.

edgy scroll
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ye

bold barn
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in fact

bold barn
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cuz I'd hate for main to cancel the project again.

misty sandal
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main literally thought everything

misty sandal
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main wants that

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in fact i will play some mk7 tomorrow

astral cairn
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I may stream some later. I haven't done it all week.

misty sandal
astral cairn
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Yeah.

edgy scroll
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who is mk7 sigma lmao they aren't hacking but they have 999999 vr

languid musk
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thats me

edgy scroll
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oh

languid musk
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saw that coming

edgy scroll
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anyways I'm using spectator mode for now

languid musk
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why was the cpu going backwards ๐Ÿ’€

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He got hungry needed to grab a snack

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forgot to put that in mk7 before someone reminds me

edgy scroll
astral cairn
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Time to destroy.

manic dune
misty sandal
manic dune
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Infinite

misty sandal
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great

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Was expecting for a compromise for the bug

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but nvm, nice

manic dune
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what bug?

misty sandal
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session logger being bugged

manic dune
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that's just cuz y'all didn't update to latest before it shutdown

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i was tampering with the inner workings of it, hence old files will never work. delete them, the newest should work (tested them myself a few times)

misty sandal
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Nice

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clever you put the opponent list warning

manic dune
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take opponent pids with caution, added a disclaimer for those scenarios (maybe ask for the reporters pid too)

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the rest works just as before

misty sandal
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i could ask for friend code alternatively

manic dune
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oh yeah and live view dumping, so ppl can't just escape the next match

manic dune
misty sandal
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it dumps the live view?

manic dune
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just something to do the clever trick u guys do for mk8/splatoon

misty sandal
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like a video?

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or just the match

manic dune
misty sandal
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also, i just noticed the SDL has a session ID

manic dune
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so if someone records somebody they can get the pid right after, not needing to get it manually anymore

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mine does too

misty sandal
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That's actually nice

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the devs can use it

manic dune
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yeah

misty sandal
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curious how high did this number get

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splatoon is in the 40k

manic dune
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in mk7 i saw numbers like C7 (200 something)

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so not that large

misty sandal
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oh it's in hex

manic dune
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no, i display it as dec

misty sandal
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Ah okay

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Thought C7 was the number

manic dune
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it is, but for me in the memory viewer lol

misty sandal
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yep

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12*16+7

manic dune
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well let's hope most if not all issues are fixed now.

misty sandal
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Okay that's 199

manic dune
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might add new stuff like coin spy

misty sandal
bold barn
misty sandal
manic dune
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too many factors play a part in it

misty sandal
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reducing risks of falsebanning i assume

manic dune
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u can never perfection it without doing everything the game does

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  • lag compensation
astral cairn
misty sandal
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Anyways, if you find any issues, report them ^^

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will start encouraging as well

edgy scroll
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I think the plugin just broke my sleep mode and home button functionality lmao

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time to reboot

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also was the luma menu reenabled?

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yea the luma menu is enabled again

languid musk
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yikes

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can't check now

magic plank
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error-code: 118-0502

sand cedarBOT
jolly jetty
manic dune
manic dune
edgy scroll
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alright

manic dune
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updated it, removed the disabling home button (was for beta stuff anyway) - actually kept it in, and changed it up again lol & disabled rosalina again.

misty sandal
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nice

magic plank
misty sandal
supple yoke
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malicious disconnect

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rank suggests this is a regular occurance

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they also have HAX in their name which is suspicious

sullen harness
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He has tc2 in his name. Keep watch if you see him again.

misty sandal
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.

dull nimbus
jolly jetty
dull nimbus
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there's the chance it could be bad internet though.

sullen harness
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They might also be using the disconnect plugin

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Might be unlikely

dull nimbus
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i wasen't aware there was.

sullen harness
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Yes, it force dc's you from the game

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Very useful for lobby hopping

dull nimbus
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but does it disable itself AFTER the match starts though?

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that's the issue here.

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it can be abused for ranked.

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it could actually be a good idea to check that via the scene function.

sullen harness
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There is a different button combo for it, but you can still dc in game

dull nimbus
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hm... that's a problem for ranked..

sullen harness
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I had to use my phone instead of my capture card since I am at my dads house

bold barn
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was it Delus1on who used this to rage quit?

jolly jetty
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Lol rage quit is crazy

languid musk
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i dont play enough splatoon to know what the point of this plugin is, whats the difference between that and normally disconnecting?

jolly jetty
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It lets you disconnect at any time, which could be a problem in ranked.

smoky star
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@bold barn congratz on mod

bold barn
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thanks

bleak solstice
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i made it with the intention of not being abused

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๐Ÿ—ฟ

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you're still penalized on your rank for using it

jolly jetty
bleak solstice
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people ALWAYS gotta find a way to abuse anything, i swear to god.

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i hope throwers that abuse something intended for QoL get a lovely 102-2812 in their mailbox.

magic plank
misty sandal
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In ranked you will get banned for throwing

magic plank
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I remember asking do you get banned for that and one of the helpers said no

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I think a mod also said no too

misty sandal
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Helpers are not staff

magic plank
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good to know

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how long are the bans?

misty sandal
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Anyways, we never changed that. Losing on purpose in a ranked match is a bannable offense

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Same if you force 3v4s

misty sandal
left rivet
languid musk
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I found the PID. Is it still neccessary or too late?

languid musk
misty sandal
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that can be spoofed but I can still relay it

languid musk
misty sandal
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i am talking in scenarios where you DC or throw on purpose

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Multiple times

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that's where disrupting online experience comes in

languid musk
misty sandal
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If we see 2 accounts staying AFK that's already obvious

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We banned for that in the past

languid musk
languid musk
misty sandal
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We had bots staying afk

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those were banned

stuck marsh
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Banning repeat offenders is a good idea

misty sandal
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As always

lyric shard
bright trench
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spawn camping is legit a good strategy

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in ranked you just need to stall like crazy to do objective

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stack qr and trade at spawn is a very good trade imo, and if you do get spawn camped in ranked thats just a whole skull issue

lyric shard
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Nintendo itself gives bans for player teams which do nothing else than spawn camping and not care about the objective

manic dune
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there's no justification to be a sc*mbag, spawn camping = bad

lyric shard
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It is a legit strategy if 2 or 3 people do that and one transports the rainmaker but not if they do not move the rainmaker at all

manic dune
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no ones cares if it's a strategy

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let the people play

bright trench
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๐Ÿ’€

bright trench
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idgaf if im a scumbag or not

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like why should i care?

manic dune
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sounds pathetic to me, can't win without it? that's more of a skill issue

bright trench
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cant win without killing the enemy

bright trench
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listen to yourself bro

manic dune
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I'd probably crash people like you, incompetent gamers

bright trench
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๐Ÿ’€

bold barn
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lemme try to clear up some confusion:

typically Turf Wars are a little more lax, especially since the goal is to ink as much turf as possible, you can push your opponents back to spawn, if you're powerful enough.

bright trench
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man splatoon players i swear

manic dune
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I don't play splatoon lmao

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but you sound like an entitled one

bright trench
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come on

bold barn
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in Ranked matches however, there is no real reason to spawncamp, unless it's to defend from a team that got wiped out in Splat Zones or something

slender zephyr
bright trench
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am i not allowed to push???

manic dune
bright trench
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okey i agree if someone is just running to the other side to try and spawncamp thats just stupid

bold barn
bright trench
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but pushing objective and then go try spawncamping is good no???

bold barn
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generally speaking

manic dune
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I hope pretendo bans for spawn camping :)

bright trench
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like i play objective ofc, but if youre in their spawn why not try to stall abit?

slender zephyr
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the only diffrence between ranked and turf war is the in ranked when the objective is done the game ends. In Turf war if you are pushed towards the spawn already 1 minute into the game you have to wait 2 minutes for it to end

bright trench
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im not telling you to put up a tent and campfire

slender zephyr
manic dune
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the loop hole finding is crazy, so desperate?

bold barn
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same deal with Tower Control.

bright trench
manic dune
slender zephyr
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in Splat Zones is unnecessary i agree, but Tower Control and Rainmaker you have to get into enemy spawn

manic dune
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wanted to clarify my point on that, since it seems like i was misunderstood lol

bright trench
manic dune
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mb for assuming u did exactly that

slender zephyr
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i usually call it kill farming

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what you mean

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and yeah that's bad, and even Nintendo agrees because they ban players over it

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i'd say spawn camping in turf war as result of painting everything else is actually worse then Spawn camping in TC or Rainmaker

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because if you the enemy team is at that point just 1 minute into the game, they have to deal with it for another 2 minutes

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in ranked once the objective is over the game ends

bold barn
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unless by that point your team has weakened.

lyric shard
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But if you have nothing else left to ink, I think it is ok to protect you're inked turf

slender zephyr
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yes but if you ink everything else

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where do you go to protect?

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the spawn of the enemy

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spawn camping is apart of this game Turf War just handles it the worst

bright trench
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pro tip! rush mid in turf๐Ÿ‘

slender zephyr
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that's the entire competitive turf war strat

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and yes japan has a competetive turf war scene as stupid as it sounds

lyric shard
slender zephyr
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Splatoon 1 is probably the hardest out of the 3 games

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unless you are in high level splatoon 3

lyric shard
slender zephyr
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because it is the best out of the 3

bold barn
lyric shard
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my ranking is 1,3 and then 2

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Not that 2 has bad gameplay

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But I like that 3 has fair weapon sets

bold barn
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anyway, I think we've got a hacker report coming up

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not for Splatoon

languid musk
slender zephyr
# bold barn 2 is also really good

Splatoon 2s meta is terrible tbh, has repeated the worst mistakes of Splatoon 1, i am just gonna mention: Stingray, 99.9 Damage Bamboo but no Defense Up as hard counter, Baller, Ink Shield, Kensa (Cancer) 52 Gal and so on

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killed many of the best weapons

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it's a good game, but from end game standpoint it really ended worse then Splatoon 1

languid musk
slender zephyr
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it grabs the PID of the player that will be used to ban them

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so use it when you see one

slender zephyr
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i like where Splatoon 3 end game is going, i hope they don't fuck it up

bold barn
misty sandal
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I believe the latest version is 2024-12-01

slender zephyr
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no new release is out

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soo idk

languid musk
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Just installed it

misty sandal
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Nice

languid musk
misty sandal
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I recommend trying to match with them if you can

languid musk
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Okay

misty sandal
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If you find them again, press select and get the PID, or use the session logger

languid musk
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Alright

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I think he left

manic dune
misty sandal
#

for now get tgem from the Opponent list

manic dune
misty sandal
#

makes sense

languid musk
#

Got him

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I found him

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I got his pid

bold barn
#

awesome, send the screenshot

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press select during a race to see the player's PID

slender zephyr
#

@manic dune anyway this is how spawn camping should differanciated from spawn camping in splatoon:

"spawn camping" - in splatoon is an end result of the winning team nowhere else to go
"kill farming" - in splatoon is intenionally rushing spawn or stalling the objective from finishing to get more kills

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kill farming is bad while spawn camping is an end result of the game design

manic dune
#

okay updated

misty sandal
#

i am surprised you are using the US date format on github

manic dune
#

the home button issues should be gone now, I'd assume a callback of the menu didn't trigger properly

misty sandal
#

at least ISO-8601 is used on the plugin

manic dune
#

that's just cuz the community is mainly american

misty sandal
#

It's fine as long ISO-8601 is on the plugin imo

bold barn
# languid musk I got his pid

once you send that screenshot, go ahead and update your plugin. it'll be updated fairly frequently.

I'll also relay your report (once we have the PID). thanks for helping make Pretendo a safer place for everyone!
-# no this is not scripted.

manic dune
#

wish the 3ds supported tls v1.2 ๐Ÿ˜”

#

can't make an auto updater due to it, and 3ds curl (libcurl 3ds version) doesn't work well with ctrpf

misty sandal
#

3DS supports TLS 1.1 correct?

manic dune
#

yes

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GitHub dropped support for it

misty sandal
#

rip

manic dune
#

else we'd have an auto updater by now already

#

@stuck marsh & I tampered around with it

bold barn
#

actually

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I'm about to be unavailable for a few hours

manic dune
#

another solution would be to make a homebrew app just for the plugin which is dumb

bold barn
#

@misty sandal mind if you relay the report?

languid musk
#

Lol a hacker named viggo? PietSmiet reference? ๐Ÿค”

misty sandal
languid musk
#

Uhhh I didnโ€™t screenshot it

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I didnโ€™t know I had to

misty sandal
#

it's fine use session logger

languid musk
#

Is it in my sessions?

misty sandal
#

If you played with them again yes

manic dune
# languid musk Is it in my sessions?

press on session logger, go to View Files and it should have 1 file there (or 2), one was the live view and one is the normal session. both should contain the person's name, press on the name and send a screenshot of that content

slender zephyr
#

Proper rules of what is bannable and what isnt would help

languid musk
#

Found it

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This right?

#

Why does it say PID Spoof No? I don't have that lol

slender zephyr
#

your on an very old version then

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cause PID spoofing a big problem with MK7

languid musk
slender zephyr
#

intresting

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btw how did the surgery go?

languid musk
slender zephyr
#

nice ๐Ÿ‘

misty sandal
#

But now just play with this plugin and anytime you report just go to session logger and get the PID

manic dune
# languid musk

opponent data doesn't have anti spoof checks. and if i add a method to always only save clean pids, it also won't be able to distinguish between both, since opponent data only stores 1 pid.

misty sandal
#

and then checking later

manic dune
#

that too, any prior saved opponents are always at risk for spoofs

misty sandal
#

no way to know the real PID correct?

languid musk
#

So I basically have to grab live?

misty sandal
#

or use session logger later

manic dune
#

only if i add something to clean it, but since it'll always be a false positive i might leave it out.

#

just take them with caution

misty sandal
#

not worth the effort tbh

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Opponent list is fine as last resort

manic dune
#

merely added it back since it's at least something ppl can work with if they can't match up with them anymore

misty sandal
#

session logger is what everyone should use

languid musk
#

MK7 Stat page when xD

slender zephyr
languid musk
#

Ok I don't use the MKW stat page as well because of mkw-ana.

manic dune
#

once we understand how to fetch all active play sessions, displaying everyone's pid and other information per room. but that'd also pose a very bad vulnerability for the playerbase since those connections include people's ips etc too

manic dune
#

i was meaning to try it out but i don't have time to do that

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plus such method could be abused with several game exploits

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such as stream sniping/harassment/auto crashing/more

languid musk
#

Did I give the right info?

manic dune
#

yes

misty sandal
languid musk
#

Okay

#

I thought MK7 is clean now. I haven't seen a MKW hacker for months lol

misty sandal
#

Recently we are getting a few Mario Kart 7 cheaters but they are getting banned

manic dune
#

I'm glad the game is slowly but surely getting cleaned up

misty sandal
#

We had 5 days in a row without a report

manic dune
#

i hope ppl continue reporting suspicious behaviour, since it'll help ppl like me to know if they used rather rare exploits or any of that kind

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since i feel like that stuff will come back to mk7

misty sandal
#

I cant wait to see Pokรฉmon scammers on the GTS

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Trying to advertise scams

manic dune
#

hyped for Pokรฉmon tbh

misty sandal
#

ez ban

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There is one individual doing it on gen 5

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IN 2024

manic dune
#

u guys could filter gts cloning very easily and very robust

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but I'll see if that's even needed once it releases to public

languid musk
misty sandal
#

I mean if the community doesnt report no one is cheating

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since there are some active players reporting almost every day

languid musk
#

The main reason is... I'm too lazy to record lol

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It's not like MKWii where I stream everything and have it recorded there.

misty sandal
#

Where do you play Mario Kart Wii

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Wii or Dolphin

languid musk
#

Wiimmfi

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Ah

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Wii U

misty sandal
#

Capture card?

languid musk
#

Yes

misty sandal
#

Makes sense

#

get a capture card 3DS to report

languid musk
#

I can. Would be a usecase for my XL.

slender zephyr
misty sandal
#

New 3DS XL capture card would be awesome

misty sandal
slender zephyr
misty sandal
#

they were expensive even back in the early days too iirc

misty sandal
languid musk
#

At the shop where I'm looking

slender zephyr
#

the mod is insane complex, and i would only let it handle a trusted modder

misty sandal
languid musk
misty sandal
#

That mod is nice

#

Also i know you can do wireless charging

languid musk
#

I might do it next year.

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And NTR Streaming doesn't work here.

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It's heavily lagging and only in 144p smooth.

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Although I haven't tested it here with this new computer and the new network switch.

timber crystal
#

thats just how the game works ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

manic dune
manic dune
timber crystal
manic dune
timber crystal
manic dune
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now stop making a fool of yourself, average splatoon player: crying about unfair mechanisms being disallowed because you cant win otherwise or cheese out a quick win

timber crystal
#

lol

manic dune
#

๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

timber crystal
manic dune
#

i never did, no

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idk why u jump to a different game now tho

timber crystal
timber crystal
manic dune
#

i just think spawn camping as described earlier counts to trolling

timber crystal
#

it'd be stupid for pretendo to ban it anyway

languid musk
#

Does slowing down to hit people with shit in MK7 to keep your lead count as trolling?

languid musk
#

Racing lmao

languid musk
#

like do u not slow down with a starโ€” to hit people, so you can keep being ahead of the game.

manic dune
misty sandal
#

if you slow down to gain lead advantage is not trolling, if you do it just to disrupt the game and be annoying, yes

timber crystal
manic dune
slender zephyr
misty sandal
#

btw it's up to the developers to define that when in doubt, also eventually we will get a better banning system

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there is stuff that are not worth permabanning for

manic dune
misty sandal
#

also we will probably add custom error messages to the official ban error codes

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the official Nintendo messages are vague

manic dune
manic dune
slender zephyr
#

you are literally telling players TC and Rainmaker modes are banned lol

misty sandal
#

also we have to change that PNID bans are 102-2802 and not 102-2814, shutterbug2000 filed a GitHub issue for it

sand cedarBOT
slender zephyr
#

oh and turf war too

languid musk
misty sandal
languid musk
manic dune
#

also miss me with that "someone who doesnt play the game" shit

slender zephyr
#

you can't ban something the game intent that to be

languid musk
#

Game is heavily RNG based and if youโ€™re targeting a player to knock them out of top 4 I donโ€™t see the issue personally but I will respect it.

misty sandal
manic dune
#

its not intended in every mode

slender zephyr
misty sandal
#

we had a moment where several Japanese players were here just to disrupt online experience by hitting players with stars and going backwards

manic dune
misty sandal
#

you could find even 3 of them in one match

languid musk
misty sandal
slender zephyr
#

every other mode will end in spawn camping if one team is obv winning.

manic dune
#

i remember they were on ctgp7 in the past

misty sandal
#

they noticed we banned the consoles that's my guess

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maybe we scared them

slender zephyr
#

Rainmaker forces you to get the rainmaker into spawn. and in Turf war if you painted everything else you literally can only go the enemy spawn

misty sandal
#

some kept formatting their 3DS and still seeing the ban lmao

manic dune
misty sandal
#

i will ping quarky for this convo

manic dune
#

take your time to discuss this internally

misty sandal
#

i am not a splatoon player so i can't say too much

manic dune
#

i dont think rushed answers help

misty sandal
slender zephyr
#

i agree that intentionaly rushing spawn or stalling the ranked objective to farm kills is bad

manic dune
#

thats the type i want punished, yeah

misty sandal
#

just curious

manic dune
misty sandal
#

or do you play just on 3DS

#

oh okay

slender zephyr
#

but i specifically dont call that spawn camping i call that kill farming

languid musk
#

I think trolling shouldnโ€™t even count in MK7 cause like.. is such a chaotic game.

Also kill farming is. As someone who doesnโ€™t play splatoon.. a way to gain turf.

Keep them from Yknow spawning and keep letting your teammates gain turf

misty sandal
#

you had no idea what was happening lmao

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stream sniping players, lap trolling and so on

manic dune
#

yeah mainly the stream snipes are where the issues come from

slender zephyr
misty sandal
#

and we targeted obvious trolling behavior

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so if you slow down strategically to win you are fine

slender zephyr
#

or getting the objective one 1p away from finishing then just kill players at spawn

languid musk
#

People stream snipe in MK7??

slender zephyr
#

what i am saying you cannot ban the type spawn camping the game wants you to do at some point

bright trench
#

man why are we still on this spawncamping, theres a difference between rushing spawn put up a tent and camp and legit push up and frontline, if you succeed youll get to their spawn and can then ยซspawncampยป

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i think we can all agree on that

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hopefully

slender zephyr
#

I gave two definitions on the two different types:

"spawn camping" - in splatoon is an end result of the winning team nowhere else to go, from either painting the entire map or following the objectives path
"kill farming" - in splatoon is intenionally rushing spawn or stalling the objective from finishing (mostly very shotly before finishing line) to get more kills

And they were completely ignored

bright trench
#

wherever its annoying or not shouldnโ€™t mattes cus then we should just delete the game cus its shit

bright trench
misty sandal
#

quarky played splatoon

languid musk
manic dune
bright trench
slender zephyr
#

The end result is the same, the difference is the circumstances it comes to that

languid musk
#

are we getting monthly ban stats again

jolly jetty
#

No ETA on the answer to your question

slender zephyr
misty sandal
misty sandal
#

today we will release them

languid musk
#

nice

#

I expect a significant decrease from last month

smoky star
languid musk
#

Alright I will

#

I understand

oak kraken
#

they are legitimate gameplay techniques

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in fact, kill farming is 50% of the ranked objectives because by keeping the enemies dead you allow your team to score the objective more

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what should actually be banned is team griefing which is when your teammates intentionally sabotage the match in a way that cannot be confused with a legitimate game strategy

slender zephyr
oak kraken
#

no, i meant literally sabotaging the game by doing things like abusing collisions to throw people off the map

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besides that, i was mainly talking about rainmaker

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because from my experience, sometimes people get mad about their teammates and intentionally pick up the rainmaker to bring it back to the spawn point to prevent their team from scoring

slender zephyr
#

Oh i have seen that

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That's obv already 1000% bannable

oak kraken
#

besides that, i dont think any form of kill farming should be banned for the reasons i described above

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what constitutes kill farming is also a highly subjective topic

slender zephyr
#

I was specifically talking about the idea that an entire squad gate the objective right before finishing and then keep killing the players without attempting to finish the objective. It could also be considered a form of trolling

oak kraken
#

i do not even consider that an illegal game strategy

#

this would also make a contradiction in other legitimate game strategies

#

for example, if that were considered trolling, would squidbagging also be considered trolling?

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would you punish people for simply spamming the zl button?

slender zephyr
#

Idk as far i know Nintendo bans players who do that

#

In SP3

oak kraken
#

is there any evidence to support that

slender zephyr
#

Need to pull it up

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Was a long time ago i seen some people claming getting banned because of this

oak kraken
#

i know that s3 has a general rule for trolling but i cant imagine it would be for squid bagging or spawn camping

slender zephyr
#

Oh not spawn camping

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Or squid bagging

slender zephyr
oak kraken
#

yeah thats basically spawn camping

#

and it is a legitimate game strategy

slender zephyr
#

Gatekeeping the objective from finishing even tho they 100% able to just to kill players more

oak kraken
#

i actually did this strategy back in nn for s+ many times because it was a safe option for winning games

languid musk
#

Trolling is a catch-all for stream snooping

oak kraken
#

for example, if we have 80 points in rainmaker, regardless of the points the enemy team has, as long as they do not get more points than my team i have no reason to push for a knockout

languid musk
#

Sniping* and griefing

oak kraken
languid musk
#

If you spawn camp it isnโ€™t an issue unless youโ€™re cheating cause theyโ€™ll eventually break their way out of it. But thatโ€™s my take

slender zephyr
#

And not gatekeep the goal from finish if you like 1 point away from doing so

oak kraken
#

no, thats not a general rule

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many times, depending on the team composition, its better to just stall the game instead of going for a ko

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and it depends on the situation of each match

slender zephyr
#

If i know i cannot get a K.O i will try stalling too

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What i mean if i know i am 100% in the advantage and can K.O. then just not doing it just get more kills

oak kraken
#

in that case, once again it would be a highly subjective topic since when you have a 100% advantage is highly subjective by itself

languid musk
#

I think trolling is too subjective to be a rule.

But itโ€™s also a catch-all for griefing and stream sniping right? @misty sandal

oak kraken
#

this is only a rule that can be applied to tournaments with a limited amount of people and not the service as a whole

slender zephyr
#

Yeah it's kinda difficult

bright trench
slender zephyr
#

Also javi

hallow igloo
misty sandal
bright trench
#

that we know

languid musk
bright trench
#

whats yall take on ยซspawncampingยป

languid musk
#

Why does killing people in .. yeah

misty sandal
#

for spawn camping we will talk about that internally

languid musk
#

Itโ€™s a shooter game and some people play differently

misty sandal
#

and forwarding the opinions

languid musk
#

And usually people can break out of it but is my take

oak kraken
slender zephyr
#

^

oak kraken
#

this is not the same as stream sniping

languid musk
misty sandal
languid musk
#

Nor have a Wii U

languid musk
slender zephyr
#

Spawn and example Tower Control finish line

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Literally a next to each other

#

How is this not supposed to end in spawn camping

oak kraken
#

if people think spawn camping is annoying wait till they find out about the quick respawn jump chains all the way back in s+ nn

slender zephyr
#

I've never luckily experienced this myself but i seen videos

#

That's hell

oak kraken
#

if you execute one correctly its impossible for the chain to be stopped

#

tower control in this game is fundamentally broken

white heath
#

they keep jumping to the tower its annoying

oak kraken
#

in fact, when i first started playing splatoon, i got s+ in a week just by abusing qr

bright trench
slender zephyr
oak kraken
#

by the way, most people think that the extra delay of the stealth jump is a nerf but its actually a big buff

#

the extra time it gives in between each jump makes the jump chain even more effective

slender zephyr
#

I have seen videos about it

#

I actually never wanna do this

#

You have to kill them delayed in order to break the chain

bright trench
#

only problem was the dyno could attack before they landed

#

๐Ÿฅด very bad times

oak kraken
#

it still can but you have to win the lottery now for that to happen

slender zephyr
#

Old Splatoon 1 was something else

oak kraken
slender zephyr
#

Like with Splashdown cancel in splatoon 2

languid musk
#

Move Splatoon talk generally to a thread or shit like that.

oak kraken
#

we are technically still discussing the topic at hand so its not off topic

languid musk
#

Is not related to hacking or breaking rules by just talking bout Splatoon.

oak kraken
#

but anyway, going back to the original topic if it actually got banned that would be stupid

slender zephyr
#

Yes

#

And discussing it "internally" isn't helping, how about you involve actually the players what their thought is.

bright trench
#

i think the majority of the people here cant even spawncamp properly, its not just swimming to spawn. you gotta time at and find a good position and all that

#

people think its liks qrsj

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spawncamping its not cheese in any way

#

you actually need skills to do it

oak kraken
#

give me a slosh and a good position at their spawn and you get free ๐Ÿง€

slender zephyr
#

Very true

oak kraken
bright trench
oak kraken
#

if you think about it, you dont need every single team member to participate in the jump chain

#

you can have 3 members doing the jump chain, and one additional player in case they delay their kills

#

if they start delaying the kills, the other player deliberately delays their jump

bright trench
#

either way very hard to coordinate in a real match

#

better off just jumping as fast as you can

#

and maybe try to delay it here and there

dull nimbus
#

to be fair at least spawn camping here isn't AS BAD as splatoon 3 specifically

#

since no spawn barriers exist in that

bold barn
slender zephyr
#

because you are briefly invincible while being able to fight

#

while the spawn barrier doesnt help you with long range weapons

subtle marsh
#

P4 PID: 1615516977, Name: ใ‚, Area: 16777216, Index: 4, Gender: 1, Skin Tone: 2, Eye Color: 2, Weapon Set ID: 3000, Main Weapon ID: 400, Sub Weapon ID: 2, Special Weapon ID: 2

#

Tv view randomly got deleted but theyre on places that arent even possible to be in

bold barn
#

I'll try to find them

jolly jetty
#

yeah, i do. I think i ran into them yesterday but they dced before they turned on hacks

languid musk
#

IT'S THE ONE I FOUND YESTERDAY

jolly jetty
#

#1231832741612621876 message pretty sure its the same PID

subtle marsh
#

Theyre on the enemy spawn

#

Like on it

slender zephyr
#

Thereโ€™s a giant border around the place

#

You cannot get there without cheats

bright trench
#

think you can swim on that side thingy

#

but nevertheless i think he just flew there๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

slender zephyr
#

Other pic he is behind that

slender zephyr
#

Impossible without cheats

bright trench
#

ah i see

#

ye

#

there isnt even a side thing at the spawn playform either way

#

im tripping hard๐Ÿ˜‚

jolly jetty
#

those screenshots should be valid enough for a report. but that is really up to mods and admins

misty sandal
#

it's probably ban worthy

bold barn
#

impossible to get up there without cheats

#

we've relayed it and this offender will enjoy a nice shiny 102-2814.

manic dune
#

they should create a separate matchmake for cheaters only, lol

jolly jetty
#

New Network (similar to newwfc)

misty sandal
#

an alternative to Pretendo would work

lyric shard
#

cheaters against cheaters. somehow now i want to see who would win ๐Ÿ˜…

stuck marsh
#

Cheetah

bold path
bold barn
#

posting this here in case someone remembers the previous rotation, but someone was probably forcing certain stages when they weren't in the rotation. currently compressing

bold barn
misty sandal
#

the time

bold barn
#

just a few minutes ago

#

around 1 hour after rotation

misty sandal
#

let's move this to #discord-mod-chat

astral cairn
#

I was one of people that made myself a target on purpose to get trolled. Those fucking idiots took the bait and got banned. Those also thought formatting their systems would bypass the bans as well. Turns out that isn't the case, the whole system gets banned and there's no way to bypass it. So in other words, they would have to keep spending money to play online anymore. They haven't showed up in a few months now because they're probably scared we'll get their asses again lol. That's deserved if you're going to ruin the experience for others.

languid musk
ocean tangle
#

bro is not him

#

(i hope its not him)

languid musk
#

they should've made the sub region washington dc

languid musk
smoky star
astral cairn
#

Bruh, another idiot.

bold path
#

Can I play as Obama online

#

Genuine question

bold barn
#

I mean, yeah, that presidency ended almost 8 years ago

#

but still

bold path
#

Alright

jolly jetty
#

Got a Splatoon hacker report coming up. Will try to aim for in the next few minutes

#

Oh shoot. Now i am not actually sure who is the one hacking

#

Ok wait nevermind they made it obvious with no points hack, just realised i was about to report the wrong person

#

Reason for report: Offender was spamming burst bombs, and used burst bombs before the match started (but I didn't catch that part in the video)
Hackerโ€™s PID: P5 PID: 1615516977, Name: ใ‚, Area: 16777216, Index: 5, Gender: 1, Skin Tone: 2, Eye Color: 2, Weapon Set ID: 3000, Main Weapon ID: 400, Sub Weapon ID: 2, Special Weapon ID: 2
Hackerโ€™s PNID: UNKNOWN (Player history did not get that again)

My PID: P4 PID: 1184464539, Name: SLโ˜…๎งBread๎€ˆ, Area: 822083584, Index: 4, Gender: 1, Skin Tone: 1, Eye Color: 0, Weapon Set ID: 1042, Main Weapon ID: 138, Sub Weapon ID: 0, Special Weapon ID: 2
My PNID: Mariostriker124

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyx0-PpQDsk

#

at first i thought it was them ๐Ÿ˜ญ luckily i caught it though

ionic kayak
#

Splatted by ink from a Propeller

dull nimbus
#

hm...

jolly jetty
#

Btw it was the level 5 cheating. They have been reported before

#

And Wasabi doesn't have burst bombs, but Slosher does

frail falcon
#

Sorry if the video is so long lol

tawdry parrot
#

I was actually going to mention that hacker

#

Omg thanks for reporting it

frail falcon
#

Np. I was โ€œCallieโ€ with music notes

tawdry parrot
#

๐Ÿ‘

#

Ngl it was the first game of today for me too, started off strong ๐Ÿ’€

frail falcon
#

Lol certainly. I havenโ€™t seen a hacker in a while tho so this was juicy

jolly jetty
frail falcon
#

Cool beans

#

I also played with the hacker earlier, TC2 or something. I noticed that his walking speed was slightly faster with no walking speed abilitiesโ€ฆ. Nonetheless I squid bagged him and WON B)

languid musk
#

PNID of video provider
mochidafathe
JST 16:30
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jolly jetty
languid musk
jolly jetty
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Thank you. I kinda just woke up

misty sandal
broken tinsel
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He making other player console dying ๐Ÿ’€

misty sandal
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Oh nvm, 3 cheaters

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๐Ÿ’€

dense goblet
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But yeah in public it's just annoying and not funny

dense goblet
broken tinsel
dense goblet
misty sandal
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Anyways chearers are annoying

broken tinsel
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Fact

broken tinsel
dense goblet
broken tinsel
potent vine
lament sonnet